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Good morning girlies. It's the toast. It's Jackson Claude and we're your host.
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It's your favorite show, the best five.
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Things you need to know.
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We'll start your day off swirly. It's the Toast.
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They sound amazing.
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Welcome back to the Toast and happy Thursday. Not to be an ungrateful wench, it should be Friday. Hello to my co host slash twin stealer slash like single white female, Jacqueline Follet.
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Oh my God. Twin. We keep doing this. I like to think of it because like we're like minded swirlies and we are just so simpatico. But sure, make it nasty now get nasty. That if you're twins like such cuties.
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If you're tuning in as an audio only podcast. First of all, thank you for joining pay joining us. We're so happy to have you here. You might not notice check and I are wearing the same exact outfit, like different brands, but it's just like a gray sweatsuit is here.
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It's like cashmere.
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So let's talk about the fact that my outfit's more expensive than yours.
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I feel like you want to hide that from people.
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I know because I really am so relatable. And I'm going to be completely honest. Like, I did not pay for my outfit. It was gifted, which is why it's more expensive. But like, actually both of our outfits are from toe sponsors. Jackie's suit is from Loft.
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Yes.
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Mine is from Rabbit. Yeah, a little French brand. Roller Rabbit.
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French?
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No, when I say it like that, it is.
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It's just Roller Rabbit.
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Anything can be French. Just ask Belly. Oh, I did not watch a summary turn pretty finale. It aired last night. Please don't tell me what happened.
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We have summer I turn pretty story so we could talk about. We do. They made major news last night.
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Well, I didn't watch the episode, so.
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It's not about the episode.
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No, no, I just. Can you, can you just save it for tomorrow?
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It's about the format.
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No, no, can you please just save it for tomorrow? Okay.
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Okay.
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Thank you anyways.
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Yes, mine is the less expensive version which is just like slay.
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Yeah. You just wouldn't expect that one of us would be wearing like a French brand and the other would be wearing something French. Like, my outfit's expensive bitch.
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Like, well, I think we both look cute.
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I think we both look gorgeous.
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And it just like goes to show like this was the Viper. They confirmed when I was putting this on, I was like, oh, is it like cashmere? Set time and confirmed.
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It is. Oh, My God, we're so gray.
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We are.
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And it's Thursday.
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You know, this was all we wanted yesterday. Like, we have to be happy with what we have.
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I know, I know, I know.
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It's great news.
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It's. It's fine news. It's the latter half of the week. It's not the latter half of the latter half, but I'll take what I can get.
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Yeah. But then Friday, you know, it's just a whole other bag. Thursday is a great day.
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Thursday.
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Yeah.
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It's good. We're together virtually, but still together, you know, in spirit. That's always good. You know, we have to find the positive in life.
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I found it, like, I woke up. I'm like, thurs Diaries. Let's get this bread. I started a loaf. How's Ben's loaves going? Is he making a loaf, like, every day?
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So he's made two loaves and we've eaten them, like, in to completion, you know, and he's just, like, not understanding that, like, now that I've had loaf, like, I need to have loaf every day. So when he gets up, like, I get up and I feed Ruby and he should be getting up and feeding his starter and, like, he's not in that cycle yet. It was, like, a fun thing for him. I feel like I could see him getting off of it, you know.
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No, I thought he was making bread every day, which is what he should be doing because practically practice makes perfect. Like, you're only going to get better. You have to troubleshoot, keep feeding the starter. Like, you'll learn more and more every day. And the good news is you are eating all that bread, so it's not like it's wasteful.
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No.
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You should be making it a loaf a day.
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I know. I feel like, you know, a 1950s husband. Get back in the kitchen.
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Yeah. Make me a sandwich.
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Literally, make me a sandwich.
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Yeah. That's surprising. Only two loaves.
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I know.
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I'll reach out to him and I'll let him know he's got his.
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And he said this morning he fed the starter, but I just, like, they're not happening in a milestone.
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Like.
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Yeah. Like, I think he was saying, like, it's on its way. You'll get it later tonight. Great. I did have a fabulous night, though. I went to Polo Bar. Yeah. The hotspot I mentioned. And you know what? Like, I was having such a nice time.
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Anniversary dinner. Oh. It didn't click for me. You kept saying, like, you were going out and I'm like, where are you Going. And you said Polo Bar, but I didn't realize your anniversary dinner. Yes.
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Yeah. And like, I was just, you know, it's such a hot spot. It's like a fabulous restaurant because it's like delicious food, but it's also a really good vibe.
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I actually wouldn't. It is a hot spot, but like, that's when I. You said hotspot. I thought you would mean, like, you know, San Vicente or the French corner or whatever.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Corner beach, corner corner table, whatever. Part of the fun is like people watching, right? Like your head is on a swivel. Because I've seen the craziest people there. But, you know, they give us a really nice little corner booth, me and Ben. It was so intimate because they knew we were celebrating our anniversary. And like, Ben gave me a gift and I hadn't caught up. I hadn't seen Ben all day. Something I'm returning. I hadn't seen Ben all day. And so like, I didn't really get a chance to swivel my head and I didn't see any celebrities, which is like so rare.
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And it's a week month.
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Yeah. I year I was like mad at myself when I left. I'm like, wait, I didn't see anyone. But that doesn't mean nobody was there.
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You know, I think you would have seen them.
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No, I was there, but were tucked away.
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Maybe you were the celebrity everyone was looking at.
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I just want to say there was like probably eight toasters at Polo Bar. Like, I. Maybe it was an off night, but I was definitely the most famous person there. Which is not a good look at the polar bar, but also good big fish, small pond, you know.
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Yeah. Well, that's very sweet. Happy anniversary to you too.
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Thank you so much.
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I love your love. Licious.
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I love your parents, Ruby. Somebody commented that on my TikTok. It was so sweet.
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That's so sweet. Like, seriously, too cute. Too cute.
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I actually went into my Dropbox and watched a bunch of my wedding footage. And first of all, you were so cute at my wedding. Like, we talk a lot about how I looked at my wedding, but we don't talk about how you looked because you were in your Bob era. And you know, I live for your BOB era. Even though, like the most attorney thing ever, when you came and told the family, you're like, I'm thinking of getting a bob, I was like, well, I wish you well, goodbye. And I loved it so much. Like, you need to get back in your BOB era.
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I will when I'm at a point in my life where my weight isn't changing by the minute, I look at a bob. But I don't have that sort of stability right now. And I need hair.
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You were just like, cuter. Like cute as a button at my wedding with your little bob.
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Oh, my God. Thank you so much. My little David's bridal bridesmaid dress.
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I also want to say I.
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They slayed the house down with those.
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It was actually Vera Wang for David's bridal. And it was sponsored. No, we got.
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No, no, no. Like, I loved our dresses.
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My bridesmaids looks amazing. It was Vera Wang for David's bridal.
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I didn't realize the be Wayne connection. I just thought it was David's bridal. I remember being like so happy with how we all looked.
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I thought you all looked great.
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Yeah. No, no. Yeah, that was. That was Ernest.
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A fun fact about me. Something I feel really good about is at so far two of my sister's weddings, I actually really liked the way that I looked. Like, because my weight, like my looks have fluctuated so much over the years. There are time periods where I look at a picture and like, truly fudgeing. Hate it. But I look back on pictures from your wedding, pictures from Olivia's wedding, really fondly. I think I loved my dresses. I looked so cute. I'm like a normal weight. I'm not like super skinny. I'm not super fat. Like, I'm just normal girl. And it's giving Normie and I love it.
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And we got married two months apart. So like you were the same person for both.
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Okay, don't be rude.
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Like, it wasn't like two different.
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No, I had two. I had two beautiful eras. Yeah.
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Yeah, you did. I agree. No, we kind of crushed it. We're just like where the Nader sisters were so gorgeous.
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Oh, Brooks. Theater was on watch rap and live. And again, first of all, it was perfect. My ozempic king and my ozempic queen Andy and Brooks and then Mark Ronson was there. Like, okay, it should have been a one on one. But it was all everything I've seen so far was Brooks. This Brooks is Brooks.
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I have story about it if you want to table. I'll hold your opinions. But I did watch last night what I said I was gonna watch and something that really brought my husband and I together, which is the cowboys documentary.
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America's team on Netflix and I almost watched it. How was you finish it?
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No, I think we're in the middle of the third episode. I don't know how many there are, but, like, we're in the 90s, so I think we have some time.
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Oh, my.
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It's very dense, though. I feel, like, dedicated to it. One, because I want to have an understanding of the Cowboys, why they're America's Team. Like, I. I really want to.
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Do you feel like you get it yet?
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Um, yes. And what I. What I'll say is they were coined America's team in the 70s. They were, like, larger than life, you know, so Americana, so winning, blah, blah, blah. It's not like the term America's team is, like, up for grabs in every few.
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They made it up.
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Right? So, like, that's their thing. If someone else wants to, like, go and call themselves America's Team, it's like, get your own tagline.
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Yeah, okay, that's fair.
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That's how I feel about it now, where it's not like, in the 70s, we voted that they're going to be America's Team, and now we have. We should really reassess. It's like, no. That they claimed that. Let them have it. Whether or not they're the best team at all times.
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Also, not to make everything about me, but you talking about your Netflix documentary, there was one thing I totally forgot to tell you about the Charlie Sheen documentary. That to me, I don't know if anybody else picked up on this, but it was the most interesting part. At one point, Charlie, like, overdoses or something happens where he goes to the hospital and they have the 911 call of the person who called it in, and it's Dr. Paul Nassif. He said, hey, my buddy Charlie Sheen just called me. He didn't sound well, like, can you send an ambulance to his house? Yeah. Not Paul. Massive saving Charlie Sheen's life. Literally all roads lead back to Bravo.
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That's crazy. Good for him. That's a good doctor.
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I know. I feel like he's not getting enough credit for his life saving work.
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Speaking of, doctor, I went to the doctor yesterday. No one commented on my weight loss.
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I heard you got a fistful of fist.
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I got a fistful of doctor. I had a pelvic examination, like, literally up to his elbow in my.
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You got fisted.
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Oh, my God.
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Oh, I'm so sorry. There's really nothing to say except I'm sorry that that happened.
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It was wild. It was wild. That's what I did yesterday.
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It's literally insane what we have to deal with, you know?
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It's insane. I just want to say, while you.
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Were getting a fistful of doctor. I had the most amazing wrap for lunch yesterday. Like, it was just a good rap.
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Oh, yum. Oh, my God. I wanted to tell you something, and I need to get your take on it, because I stopped in for a coffee shop for a light bite. Of course. I got a salad. Can't help myself.
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From a coffee shop.
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They have, like, food. They have a menu.
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Okay.
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And the guy at the coffee shop, he said, you look like one of those new dolls. Like a Labubu.
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I think that's a compliment.
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So little cutesy. You look like a Labubu, but pregnant. And I was like, thanks, I think.
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So obviously, this person is autistic. So let's just, like, acknowledge that. Because, like, no one with, like, normal, social, like, boundaries would say something like that. Now let's dissect the compliment. I do think it's a compliment.
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Like, when I hear, like, anything associated, like, doll, I'm like, thanks, team.
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Unless it's, like, the Chucky doll.
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Right. But there are some Laboos. Like, some are really cute, and some are, like, demonic looking. I think that's their thing, so.
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Oh, really?
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Yeah, I've seen one that. That, like, look, like, regularly scary.
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Can I ask you a question? What were you wearing?
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What I wore on the toast yesterday. My. I was wearing pants like this, actually. Gray cashmere. Not the same ones. I did change my pants. A T shirt and the green sweater and, like, my hair in a bun.
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I'm just looking up a picture of a Labu boo. Not, like, 100% seeing the resemblance, but it's not an insult.
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I didn't take it as one, but it was just funny to me.
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It's a crazy thing to say, like, normalize, keeping things to yourself.
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But he chose the right girl because, like, I'm not easily offended.
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Water off a duck's back.
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I'm like, house, where's my salad?
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Yeah, would libi bo salad.
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I did also get a. A piece of toast, but it wasn't so good.
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Oh, wow. She's crazy. I thought you were gonna say, like, I also did get a chocolate croissant.
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It was like a crazy piece of toast. It was like honey and nuts and cheese on it.
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Honey and nuts and cheese. Oh, my.
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Yeah, but it was just too much for me. Had to stick with my solid.
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Much too good for children. Oh, yeah. Where's that from?
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Matilda.
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Yeah, I know. I'm just going off of our thing.
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I like our accountability for our references.
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We are acknowledging and sourcing our references.
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Yeah, I like that.
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And it also is much too good for children.
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It's good for me in the. The way like, you know, in the files of my brain. Where do I file it away?
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Sure. You saw everybody screaming at you in the comments yesterday that you actually can vote 10 times per couple on Dancing with the Stars. I just wanted to spread that information. We. Message received.
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I saw it. But. And I know people are like, no, like, you could vote for every couple 10 times. Then what's the point of voting if you can?
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Not only that, if you can. I liked your way better, everyone.
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And you could vote for each couple 10 times. Fine. But you shouldn't be allowed to. Like, they just want thousands of votes. I think they just get money every time you send a text.
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Because what's the. Why would you be able to vote for the same couple 10 times? Wouldn't that have the same value if everybody's just voting once?
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It's preposterous. And the fact that then you could vote for each couple 10 times and so you could vote for every single couple. They just want volumes of text messages. That's not a good voting system.
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It's definitely like a scam. 100%. And I think they can say, well, we've got 30 million votes. Well, you actually got 3 million votes, but everybody did it 10 times. So, like, that's. It's silly. I agree.
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But I do think my one vote for Whitney and my one vote for Alex really move the needle.
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I do think I kind of liked your. Like, you have 10 votes to give away. It's kind of like the last round of quiplash. You have 10 votes to give away. Give them as you please.
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And I also thought that was so much to even have 10 votes.
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And there's not even a lot.
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There's not even a lot of time to vote. It's. It's too much. Like, honestly, make it less. You should get five. Three to five votes.
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Also, when we were discussing Dancing with the Stars yesterday, talking about how, yeah, we underratedly went to Dancing with the Stars to see our friend Lauren Elena. Do you know who Lauren Elena's partner was?
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Gleb.
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Glebs have Chenko. And I'm sorry, Lauren, that you had to deal with that.
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Oh, wow, wow, wow.
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You really are disgusting. What's that from? I'm not sure either, but it's like kind of like an old family one. Wow, you really are disgusting.
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Yeah. Someone, like, says it's not Borat. It's not.
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It's not Borat.
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Our lips are sealed.
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Oh, wait. Wow. You really are disgusting.
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Is it our lips are sealed, the yar ugly guy.
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Oh, is it White chicks?
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Oh yeah, maybe.
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Classic moment in White Chicks. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. When the two fb, the two FBI agents like bust into their room and find the underwear and one of them catches the other one sniffing and he's like, wow, you really are disgusting.
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He's right for that.
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Oh my God. Funny.
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Yeah.
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How are the stories today?
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Good. Well, now I have to swap out one of them, but there's.
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Are we talking about the shake up in Late Night?
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Of course we are. That's the lead story. Everyone's talking about it.
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I have huge thoughts. I cannot wait to share them with you.
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Oh my God. I'm excited to hear. I have thoughts too.
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I feel like everybody's talking about it.
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No, everyone is talking about it. Like for better or for worse. It's really.
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It's kind of like Jimmy Kimmel's big moment.
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It's really captured the attention.
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Should we dive in? I don't really have anything else to say.
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Yeah, let's get right into it. We've got lots to do. So without further ado, here are the fast five stories that you need to know.
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For yogurt as the kids call it.
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Thank you. Okay, so our first story. Jimmy Kimmel Live has been pulled from ABC in the wake of comments that he made about Charlie Kirk's death on air. So first yesterday the syndicate network for Jimmy Kimmel show on ABC announced that they would no longer be airing his show to their network due to what he said.
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And the syndicate network is like basically responsible for getting stuff that ABC makes like onto the TVs of like all states.
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Like local stations. Yes, right. It's called nextar. They said that it's owned and partnered television stations affiliated with the ABC Television Network will preempt Jimmy Kimmel Live for this foreseeable future beginning with tonight's show. They keep using this word preempt. I think it just means like not air. Post something else. The statement added that the company strongly objects to recent comments made by Mr. Kimmel concerning the killing of Charlie Kirk and will replace the show with other programming in its ABC affiliated markets. They said Mr. Kimmel's statements comments about the death of Mr. Kirk are offensive. And insensitive at a critical time in our national political discourse. And we do not believe they reflect the spectrum of opinions, views, or values of the local communities in which we are located. Continuing to give him a broadcast platform in the communities we serve is simply not in the public interest at the current time. And we've made the difficult decision to preempt his show in an effort to let cooler heads prevail as we move toward the resumption of respectful, constructive dialogue. And then after this was announced, so, like, his show's not going to be airing to, like, I don't know how many foreseeable future. Like, how many of the networks and stations and people that he typically airs. Then Disney made the decision to pull the show entirely now because if it.
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Wasn'T going to get played, then, yeah.
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Like, that's terrible for advertisers. Like, at a certain point, this is a business.
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Correct.
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So business that math ain't math. And when he's not able to be played on a lot of television and.
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There are a lot of big conversations being had around this, like, what does it mean for the future of broadcasting? What does it mean for the future of free speech? And personally, like, conversations I've been having is like, what does this mean for the future of love thy neighbor? Because, strangely enough, Jimmy Kimmel is a producer on the greatest show ever made. And I don't want my girls getting dragged into this mess. Like, this is a political. It's a hotbed of moral turpentine, as Edna Turnblad would say. And they're on the rise, and I don't want Jimmy bringing them down because, like, this is so divisive. Like, I can't even open my phone. Everybody's just, like, giving their takes, conspiracy theories on what they think is going on. And, like, I'm worried about the Nader girls.
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Yeah. I hope that by now, like, their show is flourishing. I'm glad that, like, you know, we've all had the opportunity to watch the show. I like, whether or not he gets fired as executive producer or he doesn't have the pull that he once had. Like, I think the show will be the show. So I'm just gonna, like, stay hopeful that, you know, they've got this. Yeah, I don't really see how he's, like, aside from getting them the show. Like, I don't, like, I don't understand his involvement to begin with anymore. He had her on, so at least she got her appearance in.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Right before this. But people are, you know, up in arms, saying, like, three speech violations. This is cancel culture to me. The way that I see it, it's like, you did a bad job at your job last week, and so you got, like, the way that he spoke about what happened. And I think he would have been better off not saying anything at all. I don't think anyone would have then, like, picked what he said if there was something to say. But what happened to Charlie Kirk has really shaken so many people. Like, people are so heartbroken, whether they loved him or just knew him at a distance, like, or even if you didn't like him.
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I think it shook a lot of people at, like, the state of our current affairs. It was. It's a very shocking thing.
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A man was shot dead in cold blood in front of his wife and children and thousands of people for practicing free speech is a horrible thing. And that's how most people feel. Yes, of course there are people celebrating. I'm not talking about the crazies, and I'm not even saying that everybody who's heartbroken over this or shooken up by it was, like, the biggest fan of his, but it's extremely disturbing. So if you go on your show and you want to talk about it and the first thing that you do is make jokes. And also, the issue is that what he said was factually inaccurate was a lie. Yeah, he said that the shooter was maga. And so, like, he's also. You're technically like, a news, comedy broadcast source, and so you're also spreading misinformation. But I think also the tone of how he talked about it was so insane, dismissive to so many people. And it's like, you did, and your job is to court viewers. Like, I feel like we have gotten to a place where everyone's so, like, siloed that they don't. They're fine pissing off half the country. Like, and when at a certain point, like, this is a business, like, you're trying to court viewers, you're trying to get advertisers, you're trying to. And if nobody wants to watch your show, that you did a bad job at your job and you get fired for doing a bad job.
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Yeah. So before this became a big story, the clip was, like, making the rounds of what he had said. And I saw it yesterday morning. Like, I was really shocked. Like, it was just so dismissive and so cold for something that was really, I think everyone can agree, like, a really tragic event. So just on, like, a human level.
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Heartless for the man who cried overseas.
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Right. Overseas, the Lion. I was thinking the same thing.
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Couldn't muster up a feeling about a young man who shot dead in the prime of his life. Just trying to have political discourse with people who disagreed with him.
B
And I think like, the bigger thing that's not being said was like, he straight up lied. And I read in the Hollywood Reporter, it's like sources close to the situation said, like, before he knew his show was getting pulled off of air and there was like, backlash to what he said. He was planning on going on air and not apologizing and doubling down. I don't know if that's true, but that's just what I read. And I do feel like it's really like that's the type of like, this is not what we need right now as a country, first of all, like, spreading like, lies. That's like, factually not what happened, but also like, we really need much more of like a Kumbaya moment, not more of this, like, divisive language. And Jimmy Kimmel is guilty of that. I know nobody's having a better day than Aaron Rodgers right now. And so like, the thing is, you're not going to catch me being upset. Like, I think Jimmy Kimmel's like, outside of this issue. Like, his show should be canceled. He's not funny.
A
His show should be canceled.
B
Nobody watches it.
A
The late night format isn't what it was. But I don't know how long you can like, keep doing a show that's like, tanking. And I don't know why advertisers don't care, but that's like kind of what goes on at a certain cable. Chickens come home to roost. But like, now I, the, the syndicate network, like, not going to air your show. Like, dollars and cents wise, you have no show.
B
Yeah.
A
And they represent like, their viewers who don't want to hear from a man that would say speak like that when something so terrible has just happened.
B
Now, it's also worth mentioning there are lots of like, theories going around that the show was canceled having something to do with like, Trump and the fcc. I see other people saying, like, this show was going to get canceled anyway because it's not like, financially successful. So this is his way of like, being, you know, fired as a hero as opposed to like, you know, the show. Like, people are saying all different things. I don't know if it's like, that deep. I just think it was like a, like a fucked up thing to say.
A
Honestly, I don't. I've seen like, those, both of those Things and I don't think that, that either of them is what happened here. I mean he clowns on Trump like every single day on his show for the last eight years. Like still had a show. So I don't think it's that. And I also don't think that he was going to be canceled anyway. I just think this Charlie Kirk thing has really shook in so many people who usually just like remain quiet and like go about their lives. And like people have drawn the line here that like, we're not going to be a country that speaks, this tolerates and we're certainly not going to like platform people who can't muster up a, a feeling of compassion for someone who just went through this. Like, yeah, I think, I think that they, they like, they've just had enough now.
B
Of course it pains me not to make everything about myself, but I do see that there is a slot open for a new late night personality, maybe two. So I just want to introduce myself. I am Turdi Lou Freebush. Ashrae Safer. I have a strong background in stand up comedy. I sing so I can always like kind of like the Jimmy Fallon James Corden thing.
A
Back on that.
B
Did you ever know that you're my hero? I do impressions. Not a lot, but I have been known to like slay the house down. Boots on a Shakira impression. Do you want to hear it?
A
And I've heard that. Is there another one?
B
Oh yeah, I'm Jack Yeo. I've heard that. Is there another one? Yeah, I do other impressions. No, I do just like give me a, give me a celebrity. I'll impersonate them.
A
Ari.
B
Licking a donut and give me another one. Slay.
A
Tailored.
B
Oh, tailored. Actually, I was just having this conversation with somebody. Taylor's like my favorite singer ever. Her music is my favorite. I actually cannot sing her music like her and I just have like different registers and just like vibes. Like, I don't think I could like sing a song of her as well. Having said that, if I did get the Jimmy Kimmel slot, I would figure it out. Like we would work something out.
A
You could put it in a different key.
B
It's just more like the tenor. It's not even so much a key. It's just like we don't.
A
She goes.
B
She does low key. Have like a very high and also a very low voice.
A
Yeah, I don't know what, what's next? I mean, I also feel like he's gonna come back. Am I the only one who thinks like. I just feel like this is a suspension.
B
It could be like a slap on.
A
The wrist because also the ABC station, some of them had said like if he apologizes and donates to.
B
Right.
A
Turning Point that they would re air his show.
B
Well, I don't think we're ever gonna get him to donate to Turning Point.
A
Right. I, I'm always open to an apology if like. But just like you said and they had reported. I don't know why the Hollywood Reporter would say this if it wasn't true because I feel like they're friendly towards him in the know, but that he planned on coming on the show and like explaining further his comments but not apologizing. So I don't think that he like really feels bad about what he said, but if he does now. Oh, and like wants to apologize, like, I'm all ears.
B
Yeah. Except for the fact that I feel like we've been having this conversation a lot. Like, you know, what is late night's place in new media with streaming services, cable on the decline and like Gen Z really not giving a fuck about the Jimmy's and the late night guys. It's just sort of this like really old outdated format that I feel like has been slowly, you know, ending. I feel like after Jay Leno and it's like what's. Colbert is not on the air anymore and James Corden step back and it's like it's slowly coming. It's not all going to happen at once, but it's slowly just going to become a kind of like a dead format. And I feel like maybe this is just one step in that.
A
No, yeah, I do. But then it's like that is prime time. What are people doing if not watching that? I guess just like scrolling on their phones and are they not me?
B
Yeah.
A
Are they not watching because like logistically that people don't want to watch television at that time? I don't think.
B
No, they don't have cable.
A
But it's not like all of cable. I mean all of cable is suffering in some way, but like late night specifically.
B
No, it's really like in partnership with like the, the decline of cable.
A
But what like how do you explain Kelly Clarkson? Well, she's just, she's daytime first of all, an anomaly. But that's cable.
B
Yeah, well she, by the way, that's why they're so obsessed with her. She is an anomaly. Like that's why the network. Did you see she has a new show on NBC, Songs and Stories. It's basically like they saw the success of Kellyoki and how like, she's taken the Internet by storm by, like, stealing people's songs when she covers them. So now she's sitting down with artists, talking about a specific song and then singing it together. So I just saw she did the Jonas Brothers. When you look me in the eyes.
A
Oh, my God. I have to see.
B
It's the most genius who, like, they said, like, NBC, like, one of the biggest cable networks have found a modicum of success with one person, and they are putting the entire network on her back. She hosts the Christmas special, the tree lighting. She literally does everything. She's so busy, but everyone loves her.
A
Yeah. No, she's a safe bet. If only she would do late night. But she wouldn't. And so it should be comedy, because it is late night. So the kids are asleep. You know, it's a little.
B
But late night is two things. Right. It's two things that the Internet has completely usurped. It's comedy, which really is more podcasting, streaming services, specials, and it's celebrity interviews. And that's also, like, not really happening anywhere but the Internet now with, like, podcasts.
A
Yeah.
B
So it's kind of. And they really have not. Jimmy Fallon actually does a good job, like, embracing digital with his little series. Carpool. Karaoke was good, but, like, the. The thing that it used to provide is just being done more effectively, faster and better on the Internet.
A
Yeah. And I also think they're not speaking to the whole country. They've really just, like, shut out, and that's, like, bad business.
B
They've shut out half and then half of the half because it's only older people who are watching.
A
Right. And you have to be, like, really into this format. So.
B
Yeah, that's what I was saying yesterday. Like, Jimmy Fallon, he's not going down with this ship. Like, he's having whoever on it. I'm telling you, he will be the last man standing.
A
Yeah. And it's not like it is, you know, hardcore news where, like, you go for your bias and everyone goes to where they're the opinions, where they feel seen and heard. Like, it is meant to be for everyone. So when you're not for everyone, it's bad business. And it would be interesting to see if they would, like, tap a podcaster, comedian, someone who does, like, comedy podcast interviews in a spot like this.
B
And I get it, because it's prestigious, but, like, I don't know why somebody with a really successful podcast would do it.
A
That's why when you're pitching yourself. When you're pitching yourself, I'm Like, Koji, we haven't.
B
It's a thankless job. And, like, it's just. It's not the vibe and it's. It's. It's the old way. It's not the future. Yeah, those are my thoughts.
A
Yeah. Agreed. We'll see what happens next. If there is an apology, if he comes back or what.
B
And of course, most importantly, how it affects the future of love. Thy nator.
A
Well, so far, the future of Love night Nader is bright because Brooks Nader was on Watch what Happens Live last night addressing rumors that she dated tennis pros Carlos Alcaraz and Janik Sinner at the same time.
B
So shout out to the girl in the audience who asked the question, who was not letting Brooks go. Like, she was really direct.
A
So a curious audience member asked during the US Open, did Carlos and Janik know about each other? And Brooke said, I would just say, a lady never kisses and tells, especially twice. That's just not nice. And then Grace Ann chimed in from the audience, saying, especially not to her, of course, boyfriend. Of course she did. Then Andy asked if there were any truth to the rumors, and Brooks responded, dating is such a loose term these days. It's just. I don't know. By the way, my only thing is guys do it all the time, so why can't I? Which prompted a standing ovation from Andy and fellow guest Mark Ronson.
B
Okay. Andy was so dazzled by Brooks. Andy's so jaded, right?
A
And I get it.
B
Like, he's literally met every famous person ever, and every famous person ever loves him. It's like, it's hard to be. And I could just tell he was living for Brooks, like, he wanted to. They definitely went out for drinks afterwards. Like, he was so dazzled by her. I think he was taken by, like, her beauty, her energy, her personality.
A
Yeah.
B
Like, first of all, the standing ovation. I didn't know Andy could get up. Like, he doesn't get up for anyone. You know what I mean? He doesn't move for anyone. Like, it's just his show, his house, and you kiss the ring. And I just love to see him being obsessed with her because that's. I feel like that's how I experienced the show. I was like, oh, I'm obsessed with Brooks. And I think when people meet her, they just become, like, obsessed with her. She's very charismatic and, like, energetic, and.
A
It'S not what you typically get from a supermodel.
B
No. And it's, like, fun, and it's, like, funny, and it's nice it's not, like, mean. Yeah.
A
Yeah.
B
I was just shocked. So, again, I.
A
She's very bubbly.
B
I haven't watched a full episode of Watch what Happens Live since Andy lost the weight on Ozempic, but based on what I've seen, like, he's had a personality transplant.
A
Yeah. And he is happy. But let's see what happens.
B
I get it. I've been there, like, being overweight. Not that he was overweight, but, like, when you have weight to lose, it can affect you.
A
But also, I feel like right now, Bravo's not in high season. I think, like, Salt Lake City just came back. But so he hasn't been doing, like, lot of episodes with all the reality stars. Every week sort of the same. And I think he gets a little also burnt out by it. Whereas this is so fresh, you know, I think, like, September, there's a lot of energy, especially in New York. And I feel like he's on a high right now, regardless of his otherwise bad moods and weight loss.
B
Yeah, that's true. And that's fair.
A
And I can understand that.
B
I agree. Especially because I do think, like, all day, every day, communicating with, like, Bravo liberties who think they're just, like, such hot shit. Like, it's, like, definitely annoying.
A
Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
B
So he has my. He has my sympathies.
A
We're giving grace.
B
You know, I understand him deeply.
A
We're giving grace.
B
And we're giving grace, Anne.
A
But I just want to say, like, this is. They're so funny. They're so messy. It's just everything I see of them. Grace and shouting from the audience, like, they're so crazy.
B
They are so crazy. And you know what? They want it so bad. It's gonna happen. It's happening.
A
Yeah. No, and it's a good thing because they're, like, really being authentic with. No one is in this day and age. Because everyone's so scared.
B
Yeah, no, they don't give a.
A
They're not scared.
B
No. I love their parents. I just love everything about them.
A
Yeah, no, it was. It's a great. I mean, it was a great night for the New Year's. It's gonna be a great week. Month. Hopefully a year.
B
Hopefully Jimmy doesn't bring him down.
A
Oh, yeah, no, no. They need to leave him on the side of the road.
B
Oh, yeah. Like, yeah, Like, Jimmy, you got us here. Thank you. Good day, sir.
A
They shouldn't post about it. They should keep.
B
No, no, keep walking. There's no good way to, like, have a take on this. It's so divisive.
A
Like, he is like road kill. Like.
B
Yeah, agreed. Radioactive.
A
Yeah. I'm sorry. Like, he's had how many years in the spotlight? 30 years. She just got her minute. Like. No, I'm not.
B
I'm not. Now is not the time for loyalty, Brooks.
A
No, no.
B
Scram.
A
Are you ready for our next story, which is some major finance news?
B
Finance news. Let me just try and possibly think what the hell you're talking about we.
A
Would be talking about on the show. You. I know that you know what it is, finance news, but when I call it that.
B
The Dow.
A
No.
B
The nasdaq.
A
No.
B
Oh, I know.
A
It's the S and P. The Hailey Bieber is giving the Chase Sapphire Reserve.
B
Glow up. Okay, this is seriously. What's the opposite of a toasty lion? Like, this makes no sense to me. Why would Chase. I get it because, like, whatever you put Haley Bieber in front of right now, like, she is the moment. But like, that ad of her carrying a big credit card, like, I'm confused.
A
No, Haley Bieber posted yesterday a picture of her with, like a Photoshop credit card. Like, that's like a clutch and was just like, Chase aviaries or hashtag ad.
B
To Haley, I say, get your bag, queen. To Chase, I say, what is the direction here?
A
And to me, I want to say I've been holding on to my Chase app, Sapphire. I actually, this summer we went out to dinner a lot. Yeah, I paid sometimes and I would put out my card. I don't remember that I would put out my card and everyone make fun of me because I had the Chase Sapphire.
B
Well, a fun fact about Jackie is that, you know, Jackie and I are close personal friends with Brian Kelly, the points guys. We kind of have like a direct line access to him. And we were asking him when we were new to, like, the credit card game, like, which cards to get. Here's what we spend money.
A
I had never had a credit card before. So it was when he came on the breath and that was 2018. He told us about this Chase Sapphire card, which was like, the card.
B
Yeah. He was actually part of. You know, he worked with Chase to create. It's like the best point system. So we both got it. Jackie got the wrong one. You've been carrying around this, what Chase Sapphire preferred.
A
I believe it is preferred.
B
And it's like kind of like, I don't know, the broke down version of this card. She got the wrong one. And like, when you open a credit card, you don't want to close it. So she just, like, lived with this random credit card paperwork work. It is. It's also bad for your credit to close credit cards. You shouldn't.
A
No, no. And I just like. Listen, it works.
B
Whatever.
A
Then this summer, every time I would take out my card, like everyone was clowning on me for my credit card. So I just want you to know, like, I finally got a new credit card. I've met.
B
Oh, you did?
A
Yeah, I got an American Express.
B
You didn't have an American Express?
A
Not for personal usage, no.
B
Which one did you get?
A
Gold. Platinum.
B
Oh my God. You're always getting the wrong car.
A
You're lying.
B
Platinum. By the way, Brian always says platinum is more expensive and it's worse.
A
You're lying.
B
You should. You have to get the gold. Did you actually. Why didn't you ask?
A
I just. Platinum sounds better than gold.
B
Like it is because it's more expensive. But actually like the hack everybody knows is like. Actually I never use my platinum. I use. I have two golds now. The gold is the best, I swear.
A
You're fucking kidding me. I'm all set up. I put on my Apple pay especially.
B
For like what we spend money on. And a lot of people get the platinum because it has like a lot of delta rewards. But you don't leave the house.
A
I'm not right for this game.
B
This credit card game, it's too expensive too. It's like 600 a year.
A
Oh my gosh. Well, I guess I already paid it.
B
And did you get a sign up bonus?
A
I don't know.
B
Oh my God. You're seriously like, why are you moving in silence. Just ask.
A
I know, I just thought everyone was putting down platinums this summer. I just got.
B
Who? Nobody.
A
I just thought it was like the best one.
B
It's a good one. Did you open a personal or a business one?
A
Personal.
B
Wrong, wrong, wrong.
A
Well, you know what? Maybe I'll get the gold.
B
By the way, for anyone listening, the gold, especially if you spend money on normal things like food and gas. Yeah, it's four times on food, not gas. And it's so much cheaper annually. I think it's maybe like 150 a year. Whereas the platinum is like 5, $600. Don't listen to Jackie.
A
I didn't say listen to me, but maybe I'll listen to Haley Bieber, not.
B
You coming over here like bragging that you Platinum. And like, yes, it's technically more prestigious. It goes like the green one and then the gold one and the platinum and the black card. But like points wise and like what you would use it for you don't need it.
A
Well, I'm not getting a new one.
B
Okay, just stop, okay? Don't.
A
I'm not doing anything different. I. It's better than what I had. Can we agree on that?
B
Yes. So what you had was the Chase Sapphire Preferred. Right. And that's what Haley did an ad for.
A
Haley did an ad for Chase Sapphire Reserve, which is the same as the Preferred. They really.
B
No, no, no. Okay. So.
A
So the reserve is a popular premium credit card, and the stakes are particularly high this year for it to attract and retain customers as its annual fee is about to increase from $550 to $795.
B
Oh, my God. By the. This is the card Brian told us to get.
A
Yes.
B
And you didn't.
A
They. No, and I. I got messed up. I thought, like, preferred.
B
She went.
A
She said reserved.
B
You thought preferred was preferred.
A
Just like I thought platinum was better than gold.
B
Right, right. And God forbid you just ask, you.
A
Know, oh, it's hard. Like, it's just too many steps. Anyways, the brand chose Bieber because, quote, she reflects the aspirations of the Sapphire Reserve cardholder. Worldly and travel savvy, they said. I agree with that. I feel like the people they're trying to court with this card are the sort of road customers.
B
Yeah. I just thought the ad was weird. Like, the whole thing is weird. Chase hiring Hailey Bieber. Yeah, of course. Like, she's the moment. Chase is like a big bank. That's great. The creative was confusing to me. Like, her clutching a big, oversized credit card like it's a purse under her armpit. Like, it was just weird.
A
Yeah. But get that bag. Get that credit card. They should have, like bonus points if you shop road with it. That would be cool.
B
I'm sure there's like some back end deal that she got, like.
A
Yeah. And in addition to a big pile of money.
B
Right, right.
A
I mean, people do like Capital One all the time. This was just like, it came out of nowhere.
B
Jennifer Garner, Taylor Swift was Capital One. There's nothing weird about partnering with a credit card. Just like, there was no announcement of the partnership. There wasn't a commercial. There was just like this picture on her Instagram. Like, it was weird.
A
It was weird. But it did make me feel like, oh, maybe my car card, my old card isn't so bad at all.
B
Okay. But the picture she. The card she's holding is not the card that you have, sweetie.
A
Pretty much the same.
B
No, no, it's the whole point. Like, you got the wrong one.
A
It's pretty much the same plus, it's the number I have memorized. So, like, I am still using it when I shop online and stuff.
B
What The. The number you have memorized, like, is the one.
A
Yeah. Like, I know I should get up and go get my one. No, I'm not getting up at this stage.
B
No, no.
A
You're like, andy, I can't believe I still don't have the one that I need. Yeah, but I'm not going through this. It's fine, right?
B
Like, it's fine. It's fine.
A
It's fine. Plus, I'm not a big points player.
B
No, you're not.
A
Like, one day maybe I'll go on like a. Around. A trip around the world and I'll use all my points that I've been collecting for 10 years. Because I don't use my points.
B
Yeah, you know, I use your points.
A
What do you mean?
B
Like, we have a shared credit card, you and I, like, for the biz. Yes. And, like, we collect points from them. And, like, I take them sometimes.
A
For what?
B
Flights and stuff.
A
Where are you going?
B
To visit you mostly.
A
Then that's fine by me. Yeah, that's fine by me.
B
It's fine by me.
A
Are you ready for our fourth story?
B
Oh, no. Like, not even close.
A
I've been segwaying really beautifully through the stories.
B
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A
Thank you, Chart.
B
You're welcome.
A
Our next story, a little excitement in the lead up to the Life of a Showgirl. Taylor Swift will be making a rare talk show appearance on the Life of a Showgirl album release day. So word on the street is that Taylor Swift plans to do a talk show to really say what it is. Yes. Do you want to take a guess? I don't think you'll guess it.
B
I was gonna say Fallon because that's her boy, but no, no. And is it like a classic late night show or it's just a talk show, like a podcast?
A
Like, it is kind of a classic late night show, but like, let's go across the pond, if you will.
B
Oh, Graham Norton.
A
Graham Norton.
B
That's shocking because he's like very crass and like, I just feel like she loves to stunt in the uk.
A
I know, like having royals come to her show, but also like for Joe and all the like.
B
Yeah, of course.
A
You're gonna see me everywhere.
B
Yeah. And he's like kind of crass and like, you know, I feel like when she goes to an interview, there's like a list of things she wants to talk about. She's at a level where she gets to be protected. Right. She doesn't have to be in the slums with everyone. And also, Graham Norton is the type of show where he has multiple guests on at the same time. So you're always, like, thrown in a hodgepodge. That's how we've gotten, like, amazing moments. My favorite. I don't watch Graham Norton, but my. One of my favorite Joan Rivers best moments, like, happened on his show. And she's like. With these other two, like, random, like, famous TV writers. So it's like this hodgepodge. I wonder who else is going to be on with her. It's kind of crazy.
A
Here's who's going to be on with her. Oh, Killian Murphy. Classic Greta Lee.
B
Who?
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Jody Turner Smith.
B
Oh, I know Jody Turner Smith. But who was the other person?
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Greta Lee and Dom Nall Gleason.
B
Tom Non Gleason. Are you okay? Why do you, like, know how to speak Dom All Gleason.
A
You know him?
B
He's from Harry Potter. Oh, cool. But why do I know his name? He's, like, always being Domnald Gleason. Yeah. Like, what is he from that, like. Oh, about time.
A
Yeah, I started that movie. I didn't finish it.
B
Oh, and my favorite movie. Ex Machina. You know, that's my favorite movie.
A
Peter Rabbit. He's so Peter Rabbit.
B
He kind of, like, looks like you.
A
Like me?
B
Yeah. I'm gonna say he has red hair. He has red hair. He gives me, like, Ron Weasley energy. I think I get him confused with Ron.
A
Well, what did he play a Weasley in Harry Potter?
B
He must have. Yeah, but he's 42. Oh, yeah. Well, that sounds like a bunch of nobodies. I kind of, like, don't like this for Taylor.
A
I know. It's. Well, I don't really like her, like, cast of, like, this character. Like, this crew doesn't, like, do random.
B
And there's no connections. It's not like I can think of somebody in that group who's like a big swifty or somebody who, like, she dated. Like, there's no interesting connection.
A
I wonder why. Graham.
B
This is so weird.
A
There's so many choices.
B
She's been relatively quiet. Like, this album rollout is pretty soon. It's October 3rd and we've gotten no singles. I saw they released an orange cardigan. Her merch team is just, like, always doing the most. It's like, well, what about, like, the other teams? That's all we've gotten. There's no.
A
The vinyl team was working hard.
B
Of course. It was like all the different covers, you know, cover A, cover B, cover C. All of which were in my.
A
Opinion, better than the original.
B
I'm not right.
A
I'm not even going there. I just want you.
B
Yeah.
A
Tsb. Same ts.
B
The same. No Woodville.
A
Super Bowl.
B
No, I. I'm like kind of waiting for something and like this is what we're getting. I don't know. I don't even know how I'm gonna be able to watch it.
A
Yeah, we'll see clips. I. I just. I wonder why Graham. There are so many options, you know, in the space at morning show, late night show, podcast, Zane Low.
B
And why something not American?
A
I don't know.
B
She knows. She always has a strategy. There's a reason for everything. I would love to know, but I. I can't guess right now.
A
Yeah, it'll all one day, I'm sure.
B
Yeah.
A
But right now that's all we have. So.
B
Okay.
A
She will be there on what day? October 3rd. Hours before the album drops.
B
Okay.
A
And then our fifth and final story, A little summer house spin off news. Because Bravo posted teaser and announced that they were in production on the new summer house spin off show following the lives of its Manhattanite stars when they're not weekending out east. So it's filming under the working title in the City. News of the show was launched in a cryptic Instagram post. It was like a trailer of stuff from the Hamptons. People's voices, city stills. And it said, city life activated. A new series is coming soon. Then the network expanded more about the series in a release saying, quote, in the city that never sleeps, a group of New Yorkers navigates the biggest transitions of their lives. Marriage, parenthood, reinvention, and the reality of growing up without growing apart. Can they have it all or will they need to choose between the lives they built and the futures they never saw coming?
B
So I feel like this has been spoken about, like rumored to be happening for a while. I think there was some confusion. It was basically really, I think, centered around Lindsay Hubbard, who can't really do summer house for much longer, but is reality TV gold and what does this mean for her? And so I think having a show in the city is great. I also think this is sort of an exit strategy for some of the older summer house cast mates. Being 42 and dancing on a table with 21 year olds at three in the morning is not obviously a sustainable lifestyle for Kyle Cook. So I think that's good. You know, like, I. I need Lindsay Hubbard on tv, and I don't think Summer House is right for her anymore. So I like that the network is clearly working with her to do something. I don't really need Kyle and Amanda in the city.
A
And we're also. They're also going to be in that. The Summer House.
B
I don't know. Like, I don't. I don't know. I feel like they're doing this because, like, because they are intent on keeping the Real Housewives of New York like, a new show. They're intent on, like, trying to keep it alive with some of the same people. And I don't know why they don't want to throw Lindsay in there. Like, it just. That would have been so much easier than starting a whole new show.
A
Yeah. Andrea and Lexi are also taking part in the series.
B
Oh, right. Andrea.
A
Like, like, he was on Summer House, and then he left and got married. And he wasn't even, like, my favorite. Like, he was fine on Summer House.
B
He was just, like, a handsome guy. And, like, it was fun to watch him and Paige, but, like, him on his own with his wife. Like, I'm good, you know?
A
Yeah. And then it's unclear whether Carl will be on the show, but if they are building the show around Lindsay, like, it's actually not right to bring him on.
B
Agreed. Also, did you see Soft Bar open today? Today?
A
Today. I was gonna say softbar open today.
B
I'm really happy for him. I genuinely. I want nothing but this to be, like, the busiest, most popular. And the thing is, there's going to be a lot of hoopla. It's open, but, like, as in terms of a sustainable business, like, this is not going to end well. And, like, I'm. I hope to be wrong, but I just know that I'm not.
A
Yeah, no, I'm definitely scared. But it is a burgeoning space. Like, do you not see there's so many, like, drinks out, functional mushrooms, tinctures, like, I don't know how much space there is for, like, the IRL experience. But let's see. Okay, let's see.
B
Okay.
A
Soft Bar.
B
Okay. All. Is that to say, first of all, the title is not good because let's we not forget about the original show called the City. I mean, this is just in the city, and it's, like, not a good name.
A
This announcement is very womp, womp, womp. It's like they took some, like, from the cutting room floor of Summer House. They made a little video. They said in the city. And then they put this out with, like, kind of like, with not even the official cast. Like, no one. I saw people who are rumored to be joining that would be new faces. I didn't know who they were. It doesn't mean that's not gonna be good, but it's just like, give me a trailer that gets me excited.
B
I do think this bodes well for the future of Summer House because there has been this, like, sort of weird divide just generationally between the new castmates and the old ones. And I think there's a lot of potential with, like, these young guys, Jesse and Wes, and, like, not. I know Lexi's not there, but, like, that. That type of people, that's who should be going to the Hamptons every weekend, getting blackout. They're 21. They're all hooking up with each other. That's what the show should be. And people like Kyle and Amanda and Lindsay just, like, have sort of aged out of it. And so this show is good for that. I don't know. I don't have, like, a ton of high hopes, and I wanted Lindsay in a different capacity, and I want Lindsay on tv. And it really wasn't like this.
A
Yeah. And if they were gonna, like, make an announcement, they should have had more to announce, more to say, more to show us, to get us excited, because this just looks like.
B
Movie scrap.
A
Yeah. Movie trailer. Yeah.
B
Yeah. And the thing is, like, Lindsay isn't really friends with Amanda. Like, this is just kind of forced.
A
Yeah. Not great. Not great announcement.
B
Agreed.
A
I'm not, like, pumped up when we've been waiting for this for months and we've been, like, hinging a lot on it.
B
Yeah. I do think that they all will return to the House this summer, maybe for, like, a final summer, but as a way of transition. Kind of like maybe when Sheena walked in from the real houses of Beverly Hills onto the first episode of Anna from Brules.
A
Love that.
B
Which was a chilling moment in pop culture herstory.
A
Yeah. That would be a great transition. But do you have a show?
B
Right.
A
Like, is there a show then to watch that's good to be had that I want to see?
B
Right.
A
I think they just unclear this announcement. Just sort of packed more punch. Also say, yeah.
B
And it just.
A
It goes.
B
It reminds me, like, how Bravo really has such a hard time making shows in New York Next gen nyc.
A
They're chugging along.
B
I think it's over, really.
A
I see them around.
B
I mean, they did make ways to that Ariana Beerman thing.
A
They chug.
B
Yeah. I don't know. Then the Roni. I saw a bunch of the Ronies were together last night, like, filming, like.
A
Give them a camera. Just stop. What do you like? What's.
B
No, sorry. I'm talking about the new ones. Oh, don't give them a camera.
A
Stop, stop.
B
Yeah, it was Jenna Lyons, Aaron Lychee, Sigh, and Giselle.
A
Well, as long as Jizzle's there, just will take. That's my girl.
B
Luann is on the Skinny Confidential this week. I feel like everybody interviews her, like, in like, a kitschy sort of way because she's, like, this dramatic, but they really do. Like, I. I saw the trailer. It seems like they cover, like, her countess life. Her life, like, all. And in a serious. Because she really is so interesting. And then I said Dorinda and her were doing a radio show together on radio Andy. And it's like, seriously, enough bring these women back. Like, it's really like, there's so much demand for it.
A
I don't know.
B
Like, what point are you trying to prove?
A
It feels like they want to punish the women, I don't know, for being like, who.
B
Alcoholics.
A
Yeah. And, like, who they are, you know? And I guess Bravo probably has a hard time because they really try to be like, you know, not. They really try to be, like, super, like, sensitive. And then these women are, like, not sensitive.
B
They're trying to. They're ushering themselves into the 21st century and they've left the rhony legacy women behind, like, for the sake of, like, you know, kind of like wokeism.
A
Yeah. For lack of. Better, like, Wokishness. Yeah.
B
Yeah.
A
And these women are not woke. And I feel like. No, they're like, they are.
B
They are needed.
A
I know. Can't you just get, like, one non woke show? Like, just let it rip.
B
Let us have it.
A
Let it rip. If it goes bad, okay, it goes bad. But, like, there. It's gold.
B
This is my dream cast. And it's seriously just Luann, like, honestly, give luann her own show. Sonia Morgan, like, must return. Ramona. Love her, Hate her. She is gold on television. I would love to see Jill Zaron back in action. You guys know how I feel about her ever since I rewatched Ronnie.
A
Yeah.
B
Like, the show was built on her back. I don't need Bethany. I don't. I feel like she's doing her own thing and she, like, I don't need her.
A
I. I agree. I don't think she wants to be there. I think it disrupts the balance, and I don't.
B
Yeah.
A
I don't want Dorinda.
B
I know. And that's a hot take. Because when people talk about bringing bringing Ronnie Legacy back, they say the same thing as us, but they include Dorinda and that we were not Dorinda gals. Like, we were not into it even.
A
Like five years on. I have during the fatigue. Like, and it's still fatigued. All of them will fatigue you at some point. But like, I have no interest in going back there.
B
And I do also include in my Ronnie Legacy cast Cindy Marshop, of course.
A
And you know, Kelly, Ben Simone is always around and so I'm fine with that.
B
I'm fine with that too.
A
Were you okay when Jill Ben Simone was photographing?
B
We talked about that. I love thy Nader. When Gilles Ben Simone, which is so crazy that he was married to Kelly. He's 1000 years old. Was the photographer on her Maxim shoot.
A
Yeah. This is such a throwback to like America's Next Top Model.
B
It's crazy that he's still the premier photographer in the fashion industry. And he has been since America's Next Top Model. Since what? I was watching that show and I was like 12.
A
Yeah.
B
That's insane. Good for him.
A
Good for him. He took six photos of Brooksy.
B
He did amazing for Brook. Say we're obsessed. I love your photos, Jill.
A
Are we gonna do another title like that today?
B
Of course.
A
People are loving it, which I love.
B
I know. Because you know, when we beat a joke down into the ground, we make people hate it.
A
But no, I really.
B
But no. So far I've seen no hate for it. And if you have it, like, keep it to yourself.
A
Yeah, I'm having fun. Everything will cycle through. Okay. That's all you need to know.
B
Nothing is forever.
A
Except swirlitude.
B
Our love. We've got that swirlitude. Gotta have that swirlitude. That is from the Bratz movie, which.
A
If you haven't seen. Seriously, educate yourself.
B
So many like, random stars in that actual made for TV $3 budget piece of shit movie. The mom for My Big Fat Greek Wedding. She plays the mom in that film.
A
I believe John Voight is the principal.
B
What? Right, I think.
A
Who looks like John voight?
B
Bratz movie. IMDb. There is somebody really big in it.
A
Chad Hanks.
B
Wait. Oh, yes. Chad Hanks. There's also. Who plays the deaf guy? Yeah, there's a deaf character. It's the best movie, you guys.
A
No, it has everything. But wait. Oh, Janelle Parrish.
B
Of course. Of course. It's not a teen thriller.
A
John Voight plays the principal. Okay. Danny Bucco is in it.
B
Adelice Vanderpoel, who plays Chelsea in that, so Raven is also in it.
A
Claudia. Danny Buco from the Valley is in it. He plays a jock, Jon Voight.
B
You're right. And by the way, the Gram. The mom from My big fat Greek Wedding. I will never know her name, but in case anyone's wondering, it's Lainey Kazan, and I love her. Yeah, Chet Hanks. And it is Directed by Sean McNamara. Why were we just talking about Sean McNamara the other day?
A
Is he not from.
B
He did Soul Surfer. We already talked about Bethany Hamilton story. Yes, I was looking something up on chat gbt, and it said something about Sean McNamara.
A
Well, ask Sean chat GPT. Oh, he did. Raise your voice.
B
He did. Raise your voice. Okay, the thing is, that's our guy, Claudia. The Turny Lou life story must be directed by Sean McNamara.
A
The documentary.
B
Huh? He also did bring it on Fight to the finish, the lesser known, you know, sequel.
A
And he definitely, you know, gets through the year with okay. Jackson Hallmark Christmas movies. He did the Suite Life movie.
B
He did Legally Blonde.
A
This is our.
B
Of course, the two twins from Suite Life. He also did 100 episodes of that's so Raven. I guess he put Annalise in interesting Bratz movie.
A
The right girl for the job.
B
Also Raise your voice. Phil of the future.
A
The Even Stevens movie.
B
Even Stevens.
A
The show he recently directed Reagan with Dennis Quaid, so he's obviously getting into more serious fare. But I haven't heard anything about Reagan. Oh, and he did Casper meets Wendy, which will mean something to some.
B
Jackie.
A
What?
B
I'm going to blow. You are mined. I know. Why? I just remembered his name. Not from Raise your Voice, the Holocaust movie that has been sponsoring our show. Bow Artists at War, directed. Sorry, Produced by Sean McNamara. And it's this one, Bow Artists at War. They've been sponsoring our show and the story of Joseph Bow.
A
You're sure it's this Sean McNamara?
B
Yup. Wow. That is his most recent.
A
That's our guy. Our work here is done.
B
Like, get you a guy who could direct a Holocaust film and 100 episodes of that. So Raven and the Bratz movie and.
A
The future Toast documentary. Like what. What Smartless had?
B
Yeah. Oh.
A
Whenever we bring in the big guns, whenever we do our version, it will be Sean McNamara and Kenny Ortega, and.
B
Like, literally, it will be Sean McNamara presents the Toast documentary. Like, his name is gonna be in.
A
The title, of course, so it could have real street credit.
B
I'm gonna pee in my pants. Unfortunately, I have to cut this conversation. Short Even though I'm having so much fun. No.
A
We've reached the end. This is the end.
B
Oh, your breath. And count to 10. Thank you guys so much for listening to the Toast Mil morning show where we Deliver the Fast 5 stories you need to know every Monday through Friday. YouTube. So watching you on YouTube, please stop subscribing this video. A thumbs up. We're also available as a podcast anywhere podcast can be found set Spotify Public radio. I castbox all the places. So wherever you listen to podcasts right now so does live our view about a beautiful setting and wickedly talented. We are.
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Love ya. Bye. Leave a message.
On this Thursday episode, Jackie and Claudia bring their signature blend of sisterly banter, pop culture dissection, and lifestyle commentary to the week’s hottest stories. The duo dive into personal life updates, internet drama, late-night television upheaval, iconic celebrity moments, the world of credit card perks, and major developments in reality TV—all with their trademark dry wit and swirlitude.
“We keep doing this. I like to think of it because like we're like-minded swirlies...But sure, make it nasty now get nasty. That if you're twins like such cuties.” – Jackie (00:38)
“Maybe you were the celebrity everyone was looking at.” – Jackie (05:29)
Timestamp: 20:41–34:29
“Outside of this issue...his show should be canceled. He’s not funny. Nobody watches it.” – Claudia (26:49)
“It’s not the future. Yeah, those are my thoughts.” – Claudia (34:29)
“First of all, the standing ovation. I didn’t know Andy could get up...he doesn’t get up for anyone.” – Claudia (35:54)
“Platinum sounds better than gold.” – Jackie (41:18) “You're always getting the wrong card.” – Claudia (41:08)
“This announcement is very womp, womp, womp.” – Jackie (59:48) “They should’ve had more to announce, more to show us, to get us excited.” – Jackie (60:49)
The episode is brisk, witty, irreverent, and deeply conversational, with the sisters oscillating between pop culture dishing, personal anecdotes, and sharp media commentary. Their inside jokes, pop references, and mid-2000s nostalgia run throughout, maintaining a laid-back yet plugged-in podcasting style. They also model clear boundaries for sponsor conversations, always looping back to listener value and inside jokes.
This episode is a swirly ride through major headlines, influencer life mishaps, and late-night TV politics—layered with Jackie and Claudia’s unmistakable humor, candor, and pop culture savviness. You’ll leave with hot takes on everything from celebrity credit cards to Bravo’s ever-evolving cast wars and even a surprisingly moving tribute to secondary-market cashmere. And above all, “nothing is forever—except swirlitude."