I Love Your Lies, Niños: Friday, September 19th, 2025

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Toast — "I Love Your Lies, Niños"

Date: Friday, September 19, 2025
Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry (Dear Media)

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Overview

This lively Friday edition of The Toast sees Jackie and Claudia Oshry blend their signature sister banter with pop culture commentary, personal stories, and a lineup of the week’s buzziest topics. The episode covers everything from fashion and body image revelations to hot takes on TV finales, viral celebrity news, and trending social topics. The hosts switch seamlessly between humor and candor, engaging listeners with both heartfelt admissions and tongue-in-cheek riffs.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Friday Vibes, Fashion Talk, and the Bilingual Bit

[00:26 – 02:58]

• The sisters open with their Friday celebration song, riff on Spanglish, and swap playful Spanish phrases.
• Claudia reveals she’s wearing a Dairy Boy shirt from the inclusive brand’s latest drop, touting Paige Lorenze’s work for plus-sized fashion.
• Discussion veers into the struggles (and unexpected perks) of receiving “free” influencer merch, and Claudia pitches a Dairy Boy collab featuring breastfeeding moms:

  “I feel like Paige needs to do some sort of campaign featuring breastfeeding mamas... that’s just my free idea.” (Claudia, 02:33)

• Jackie jokes about her outfit being by “Nino’s Lie,” which spirals into goofy Spanish wordplay and one of their signature inside jokes.

2. TV Catch-Up Corner: The Summer I Turned Pretty & Football Docs

[04:09 – 06:55]

• Claudia finished watching The Summer I Turned Pretty and is confused by the plot, asking Jackie for clarification.
• Jackie reviews the Dallas Cowboys documentary series, relating the '90s Cowboys’ fame to the current Chiefs:

  “The Chiefs are that team right now, but I think that’s natural — there’s always a team, a flavor of the moment.” (Jackie, 07:05)

• They analogize sports monikers to iconic city nicknames in classic Toast fashion.

3. Fashion, Weight Fluctuations, and Donating Regrets

[07:15 – 08:45]

• Claudia reflects on losing and regaining weight, expressing regret about donating almost all her larger clothes after an Ozempic-fueled weight loss.
• Jackie advises holding onto favorite pieces in various sizes, while both note how closet purges can backfire.

  “If you’re on a weight loss journey, don’t get too ahead of yourselves — you could be back where you started or..." (Claudia, 08:36)

4. Queenie & Weenie of the Week — Teasers

[09:20 – 09:55]

• Both hosts tease an extra-fun Queenie & Weenie segment, hinting at a surplus of “Queenies” and a struggle to pick a “Weenie” this week.

5. Michelle Obama Recall & If I Were First Lady

[09:59 – 11:44]

• Claudia jokes about Michelle Obama’s childhood obesity initiative, reflecting that while she resisted it as a kid, she now sees its value.
• They riff on possible “First Lady causes”—Jackie picks “the arts,” clowning about singing at public schools as First Lady.

  “Mine would be the arts — just so I could go around to public schools and sing.” (Jackie, 11:44)

6. Sourdough Woes: Claudia’s Honest Review

[12:02 – 14:34]

• Claudia vents about husband Ben’s lackluster sourdough attempts, riffing on his ego and the struggle to get the bread to rise.
• Jackie suggests swapping in her own mature starter, but they both lament Ben’s pride.

7. The Truth about Romeo (the Dog)

[15:12 – 17:31]

• Claudia comes clean about rehoming her dog Romeo after her baby’s birth, describing their current “joint custody” with Ben’s parents for everyone’s wellbeing:

  “He was just so poorly behaved... so two weeks ago we sent him back to my in-laws, and I’m really trying to get them to take him forever.” (Claudia, 16:21)

• Jackie jokes about running a “rehome” operation, noting how priorities can change after having a baby.

8. TV Recap Deep Dive: The Summer I Turned Pretty Finale

[25:02 – 34:55]

• Claudia recaps the season finale, praising the Paris scenes but panning the Cousins Beach and “TikTok chef” side plot.

• They dissect a particularly infamous “Bob” haircut that closes the season ("the craziest, poofiest bob"), relating it back to their own family haircut disasters.

• The conversation turns to the show’s frank depiction of sex and feminine hygiene, including a rare on-screen wiping scene — which Jackie dubs "Lena Dunham-coded."

• They compare the Team Conrad vs. Team Jeremiah divide to Twilight and muse about TV's growing realism.

  “They showed her wiping? That’s so ‘girls.’” (Jackie, 31:45)
  “TV and movies, as time evolves, get more graphic, more sexual ... and wiping is one of those things.” (Claudia, 33:32)

9. Super Bowl Halftime Show Rumors

[35:25 – 40:52]

• Adele, Miley, and Taylor Swift are floated as rumored 2026 performers. Both hosts share takes:
  • Claudia: “Three words when it comes to Adele: not the vibe.” (36:02)
  • Jackie is “open” to Adele but wants a pop-girly like Miley or Taylor.
• They joke about “playing the female card” and call out the need for a woman performer after several male headliners.

10. Kim Kardashian’s Beauty Brand Shuttered

[41:26 – 44:39]

• Discussion of Kim’s shuttered SKKN by Kim skin care line sparks debate about celebrity brands folding into each other and the overwhelming success of Skims versus her other ventures.
• Jackie theorizes about brand consolidation, Claudia marvels at Skims' dominance, and both are surprised her original KKW Beauty never truly popped.

11. Nina Dobrev Yacht Watch (with Zac Efron and Miles Teller)

[50:05 – 54:47]

• News of Nina Dobrev’s star-packed vacation after splitting with Shaun White. Claudia notes Kelly Teller’s “collection” of heartthrobs; Jackie wants a casual Nina-Zac romance.

• Claudia credits Hairspray and Jackie cites High School Musical for their love of Zac Efron.

  “Troy Bolton has never lost his luster.” (Jackie, 53:47)

12. SNL Host/Musical Guest Announcements

[55:24 – 58:55]

• Sabrina Carpenter will host and perform on SNL, drawing comparisons to Ariana Grande.
• They speculate about Taylor Swift’s absence from the lineup and opine about Taylor “just acting as famous as she is.”
• Role Model’s viral “Sally” performances on SNL are discussed.

13. Names, Vibes, and Gab

[58:55 – 59:44]

• An aside about the name “Sally” being omnipresent in culture and how they visualize a Sally.

14. Queenie and Weenie of the Week

[59:17 – 63:32]

• Both give “Queenie of the Week” honors — Jackie to Brooks Nader & the Nader sisters, Claudia to Jackie’s family for hilarious Toast moments and origin of inside jokes.
• Claudia’s “Weenie” goes to whoever styled Belly’s notorious bob in TSITP. Jackie’s weenies are Gleb from Dancing With The Stars, the show’s confusing voting system, and “whoever put Whitney in that tango skirt.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On rehoming her dog post-baby:

  “I’m such a cliché. Like, I’m one of those influencers who got a dog...” (Claudia, 17:34)

• On the infamous ‘bob’:

  “She looked so fucking crazy, like, running around Paris with her bob ... it was the craziest bop.” (Claudia, 29:12 & 29:59)

• On Super Bowl halftime:

  “It will be misogynist not to. And you wouldn’t want to be a misogynist, would you?” (Jackie, 40:54)

• On body image & fashion:

  “If you’re on a weight loss journey ... don’t get too ahead of yourselves. You could be back where you started.” (Claudia, 08:36)

• On realistic TV hygiene scenes:

  “They showed her wiping? That’s so ‘girls’ ... TV and movies, as time evolves, just get more graphic.” (Jackie/Claudia, 31:45 & 33:32)

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Important Timestamps & Segments

• Claudia’s Dairy Boy Fashion Story – 01:13 to 02:42
• Weight Loss & Wardrobe Regrets – 07:15 to 08:45
• Sourdough Bread Suffering – 12:02 to 14:34
• Romeo the Dog Rehoming – 15:12 to 17:31
• The Summer I Turned Pretty Recap – 25:02 to 34:55
• Super Bowl Halftime Hot Takes – 35:25 to 40:52
• Kim’s Beauty Brand Folds – 41:26 to 44:39
• Nina Dobrev Yacht Gossip – 50:05 to 54:47
• SNL Host News – 55:24 to 58:55
• Queenie & Weenie Awards – 59:17 to 63:32

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Episode Takeaways

With signature Toast realism and wit, Jackie and Claudia deliver a fast-paced episode brimming with personal admissions (body image, family shifts, sourdough struggles), pop culture passion (The Summer I Turned Pretty, Super Bowl predictions, SNL), and insightful commentary on female celebrity ventures. The balance of heart and humor, plus self-deprecating candor, makes this episode a quintessential recap of the week's most “swirly” stories.

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For listeners new and returning, this Friday Toast is a perfect encapsulation of sibling chemistry, current events, and the blend of silliness and depth that sets The Toast apart.

Transcript

[A]

Good morning, girlies.

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It's the toast.

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It's Jackson Claude and we're your host.

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It's your favorite show.

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The Fast 5 things you need to know.

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We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast.

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They sound amazing.

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Welcome back to the toast. And Happy Friday, Domingo.

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Excuse.

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Celebrating Friday.

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Okay.

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Saturday, Sunday.

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Kublianos, Fairness.

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Exactly what you said. Kubleanos viernes.

[A]

Sorry, I just didn't understand it the way that you said it. But happy Friday, Little miss Jess.

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Little miss Jess. Happy Friday to me. Happy Friday to you. Happy Friday to all.

[A]

Happy Friday to me.

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Yeah. You feeling silly? No.

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Feeling regular.

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Okay. Brutally robust.

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I like your new shirt. I love your shirt, Jess.

[B]

Thank you so much. Yeah, I was waiting for you to.

[A]

Bring up the fact that looks super new. I can't see the logo, but it looks fancy.

[B]

Oh, it's another French brand. Dairy Boy.

[A]

Oh, Dairy Boy. Wow.

[B]

Yeah. So here's the thing. I wanted to place an order from Dairy Boy because I've never gotten anything from there. And I saw that Queen made a drop of clothing that was, like, oversized and went up to double xl. And I said, that's my size inclusive queen right there. Like my plus size Queen page, Lorenz. And that's what everybody drops her a thousand percent. She's, like, kind of the leader of our movement. The drop was at 11:00am that's when, like, I literally work for, like, a very specific amount of time. So I hate to ask for things, and I wasn't asking for it for free. But, you know, we do share an agent, me and Paige. So I reach out. I was like, listen, I'm not asking, but can I get access to the website at like, 10:15, just before I record the toast at 10:30? And they were like, she'll give you the stuff for free. And I was like, but I just. I wanted her to know, like, I wasn't asking, actually. Happy to pay.

[A]

Asking for early access to the website is, like, a bigger lift for them than just sending you some stuff.

[B]

All in all, I got it yesterday. And I just think, like, me wearing Dairy Boy at this phase of my life. Like, I know Dairy Boy is for, like, young, hot things, right? And I'm obviously not a young hot thing right now, but I am a dairy girl. You know, I'm constantly producing milk.

[A]

You're a mama.

[B]

So I feel like Paige needs to do some sort of, like, campaign featuring breastfeeding mamas, the dairy girls for Dairy Boy. That's just my free idea. And that's my form of payment for the free clothes.

[A]

I think that's really beautiful, and I think she's going to take it into consideration.

[B]

Yeah. I'm wearing D boy.

[A]

You mean Leo.

[B]

I am a le Nina wearing Le.

[A]

N. I love your dairy boy.

[B]

Should we try. I love that. Should we try to have, like, a chunk of the podcast conversation in Spanish?

[A]

Um, no. But I do like us throwing bilingual some Spanish every now and again, seeing if we could say it in Spanish.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So we'll see how that goes.

[B]

Yes.

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We will also say you look fab.

[B]

Thank you. So do you.

[A]

Yeah. I'm wearing Nino's lie.

[B]

I love your lies. Nino's. That's seriously one of the funniest things you've ever said. Nino's lie.

[A]

I, like, I can't with us.

[B]

Like, we're. It's just. I actually can't.

[A]

It feels like a weird one, you know?

[B]

It does. That's what I said. You're feeling silly and you, like, lied to me and said you were.

[A]

He brought it out in me after all.

[B]

Oh, funny, Funny stuff.

[A]

Really funny stuff. How are you?

[B]

That's our show.

[A]

How are you otherwise, Koji?

[B]

I'm good. I finished the summer I Turned pretty, so I'm ready for that story.

[A]

Okay, great.

[B]

I'm also confused by that story, so I'm gonna need you to, like, to explain it to me.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And that's it.

[A]

That's it.

[B]

What about you?

[A]

All's well. I watched more Cowboys last night. It's really dense, Koji. Like, it's. And I'm a really patient person, and I'm like, my husband is living for this. Like, when they went there, like, they're in the 90s, they're winning the super bowl. And then, like, the coach, Jimmy Johnson, like, gives a speech in the locker room at the end, and everyone's, like, waiting to see what his last sentence is going to be. And it's, how about them Cowboys? Like, my husband lost his mind. I'm like, okay, great. Happy. Jimmy Johnson was a coach of the Cowboys in the 90s.

[B]

He's also the famous NASCAR driver.

[A]

That's what I thought, too. I think he also is, but I've also learned he was the coach in the 90s.

[B]

Wait, but the same person.

[A]

No, no, no, no, no.

[B]

Oh, okay, okay.

[A]

Two Mr. Johnson's.

[B]

Two senor Johnson's.

[A]

I love your Jimmy's. Johnson. I love your Johnson, Jimmy.

[B]

Oh, hello. Yes, you do.

[A]

So I'm really being, like, a patient wife, but, like, it is so in the weeds like, every game that they're showing, I feel like I'm watching a whole football game. It's so the playbook. And I didn't feel that way when I watch, like, quarterback or tight end or full swing. Like, I don't feel like I'm watching. It's extraneous. But, like, seriously, I might as well be watching the 1993 Super bowl, like, tape. So it's.

[B]

I don't know if you're, like, saying that it's good.

[A]

It sounds. I think you should watch it. I think they're like, it's not for everyone. It's not, like, you know, fodder for everyone. It's really for, like, real football fans. Like, and I'm just also being a supportive wife because I am getting to know the Cowboys, and the more I thought about the America's Team thing, I feel like this is how I feel about it. It would be as if, like, a city in New York, a city in America, became like, the biggest city in the country. Bigger than New York.

[B]

Right? Right. Let's say Chicago popped off.

[A]

Right? Like, bigger than New York, clearly. And then they want to, like, people want to call themselves the city that never sleeps. Like, get your own thing.

[B]

Got it. We came up with it. Therefore, no one else can have it. That doesn't mean we are, like, the city that sleeps the least.

[A]

Right, Right. Or, like, if a lot of brotherly love, like, that doesn't mean that they are now the city of brotherly love.

[B]

Right? Right. When you make up the, like, the Titan, what sort of mon.

[A]

What sort of moniker?

[B]

Moniker. Yeah. When you make up the moniker, you own it, regardless of its validity.

[A]

Yes. That's how moniker lo. It would be. Like other teams trying to steal, you know, someone else's tiger.

[B]

I understand, but there are a lot.

[A]

Of, like, things that they were doing in the 90s that really remind me, like, of the Chiefs today. And I said to Zach, I'm like, that feels like the Chiefs now, like, commercials outside of bus. This and that.

[B]

Right, right.

[A]

And so, yeah, the Chiefs are that team right now, but I think that's not, like, throughout the NFL, like, there's always a team, a flavor of the moment that's natural.

[B]

The flavor of the moment.

[A]

Yeah. Big Flav.

[B]

Big Flav. You know?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm really excited for this weekend. I have a wedding.

[A]

I know. You have a big wedding.

[B]

I have a big wedding, and I'm a, like, a big person trying to find something to wear to this wedding. It's so hard. I just. I Can't.

[A]

But you have what to wear?

[B]

In a technical sense, yes.

[A]

Do you have all of your dresses from previous lifetimes?

[B]

So one thing about me, like, when I lost weight with Ozempic, I think it was like a form of self hatred that, like, I hated my former self so much. Like, I got rid of literally 99 out of 100 clothing items that were above the size medium. Like, I went really crazy. I was like, I'll never be fat again. Spoiler alert. She was fat again. I happen to have held on to a dress. It's Halston. It's cute. It's fine. But that's definitely one of my big regrets. And I think moving forward, I'm definitely going to be entering a phase of my life where my weight will be fluctuating quite a bit and I will not be so loose when with my donations. Sorry. The Salvation army will suffer.

[A]

It's true. I have a closet full of clothes in all sizes. I have my closet organizer come a few weeks ago, and she was like, what can we get rid of? I'm like, I. I need ever. I need one thing in every size. Like, I'm so between sizes all the time. And it's not the time for a purge. Like, I don't want to have to st. Like buy size mediums again. Like. Right. Or my size small things. Like, I'm looking forward, so just have one of everything.

[B]

I was so nuts. Yeah, that was like a big lesson. If you're on a weight loss journey right now, like, don't get too ahead of yourselves. You know, you could be back where you started or.

[A]

Or if, like, you plan to, like, have kids. Because it's not really that you, like, gave up on your journey.

[B]

No, also what it is is that at the time that I had lost a significant amount of weight, I also moved apartments and I lost my huge walk in closet in that old apartment. So I did like a really big purge when I moved. And I was so skinny. And I'd been skinny now when without OIC for a couple of months, I'm like, I've got a handle on this. I'll literally.

[A]

It's not what exactly as you're painting it. It's not like you just like you had a baby.

[B]

No, it's. It is what it is. And that's why I had to place an order for, you know, leche Lady Le.

[A]

I love it.

[B]

Oh, yes.

[A]

It's ladies night.

[B]

How are the stories today? We have Queenie and Weenie of the week, which will be so much Fun. For the first time ever, I had so many queenies.

[A]

Oh, wow, that's so beautiful.

[B]

And I was struggling for a weenie.

[A]

That's so beautiful. We have Queenie.

[B]

We.

[A]

The stories are good. I think we have, like, a nice wrap to put on the week before you all venture out into the weekends.

[B]

Hope everybody has some fun weekend plans. Do you?

[A]

I don't know. I can't wrap my head around what my plans are this weekend. Do you know what I mean? Like, if I have any.

[B]

So spontaneous.

[A]

If I have any, I've forgotten them.

[B]

I hope. Not sporadically, of course.

[A]

Yeah. But I think we'll do some fun things. Get outside, get after it.

[B]

Okay. Michelle Obama. Get out, get healthy.

[A]

Yeah. Love that for us.

[B]

She was really onto something about that. I feel like when she was delivering her message to the nation, like her whole thing was childhood obesity. And I was like, please, I like being a child and I like being obese. But now I feel really receptive. She was right for that. Like, we should get out, get healthy.

[A]

Yeah, but it's not going so well.

[B]

No, no. Like, no.

[A]

I don't know. I don't know what the solve is. Okay. Too big of a question for a fried dairy.

[B]

Well, let's say you're the first lady and every first lady has, like a sort of nonpartisan mission. What's yours? Mine is childhood oic.

[A]

Really? You want kids on oic?

[B]

No, I'm kidding. What is like, my non partisan? Like, I don't know, like, Nancy Reagan's was like, drugs, right? Say no to drugs.

[A]

What was Jill's?

[B]

I don't know. What's Melania?

[A]

Melania's the first time was like, bullying. Online bullying.

[B]

So classic.

[A]

That's a good one. I don't know what it is this time.

[B]

Maybe it's probably mental health. Was Jill. Yeah, she's like a PhD. I don't know. I feel like mine would be like.

[A]

It just feels like they're all choosing, like, issues that will never be solved.

[B]

No, totally. It's just sort of like an uphill battle.

[A]

Like, I want to see results.

[B]

What am I always talking about? Like, what's important to me?

[A]

It's a huge question.

[B]

Oh, I feel like a big one. Is like, the arts, right? Like, yeah, after school. And like, mine would be the arts. Like, for sure. Like singing and stuff. Just so I could go around to, like, local public schools and single could do that anyway.

[A]

They would. If you were the first lady. Like, they would love to have the first lady come and sing.

[B]

We haven't had a first lady who's like a performer, you know?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, who sings. Maybe it'll be me.

[A]

Ben for president.

[B]

Frightening.

[A]

Oh, Lotus.

[B]

Can I speak? Can I speak freely?

[A]

Yeah, of course.

[B]

So, as you guys know, Ben's been on his sourdough journey and I've been enjoying it. Like, it's, you know, nice to have bread, but, like, his loaves aren't getting better, you know.

[A]

But he only made two. Did he make a third?

[B]

He made another one this morning. And it's like, I. Sorry, I had to get my monocle out. It was so small, like, and they're not, like, rising properly. So the issue he's really having is that they're sort of frisbee shaped. Like they're really wide and they rise a little bit, but not. And so when you cut them open, they're a little bit, like, sticky. He doesn't seem like he seems happy with the results, not like, wanting to adjust to get it better. And like, yeah, it's still good. I can't lie. Like, it's good tasting bread, but it's not like, fluffy and airy. It's sort of dense and chewy and, like, he's not going to do anything about it.

[A]

Well, I'm annoyed to say, like, I think he needs a more mature starter. I told him that because that's the rising agent. That's what gives it the ability to rise. And I was going to say, like, if you're coming here sooner, if I'm going to see you, like, I would give you some, but I don't know the next time I'm going to see you, but. But Olivia just came to New York and she could have brought starter.

[B]

Oh, my God, totally.

[A]

You have to ask her the next.

[B]

No, but Jackie, he's so proud. He won't accept it.

[A]

No, no, no, he had. That's not a point of pride that you made your own starter. You have to next find out when Olivia's going to New York get. Or you could even, like, swap out his starter. Put some of Olivia's starter in his thing that's growing.

[B]

Oh, you can mix.

[A]

You could mix. It would be fine. But also, like, let him just accept the starter.

[B]

No, he's being so proud.

[A]

No, but he's making.

[B]

His ego is honestly out of control.

[A]

He's making non pargy loaves. There's nothing to be proud of there, Jackie.

[B]

They're so small. Like, you literally make one sandwich and the loaf is done.

[A]

Why are they so small?

[B]

I don't know. This one this morning was especially small, and I felt bad. He, like, came in to show it to me, and I was, like, over stimulated. I was breastfeeding Ruby. He, like, came in with this big, stupid cutting board, and I'm like, trying to balance a million things, and he's like, look, he was so proud. I'm like, it's tiny. And he was so crushed. I'm like, wait, I'm sorry.

[A]

I'll call him later to troubleshoot. And definitely the size. Like, it shouldn't be so tiny. Oh, I guess when he cuts a slice, you mean.

[B]

No, like the whole thing. The loaf is small. I would say the loaf is, like, the size of. I don't even know. Just a small loaf is what it's the size of.

[A]

Okay, I'll call him to troubleshoot. We'll find out. Olivia's next trip, we're gonna get him some real starter. He's made a valiant effort, but your girl's gotta eat.

[B]

It's time. Like, I'm suffering now. And that's where I personally draw the line.

[A]

And you've been, like, really supportive, so patient. Yeah, patient, supportive. Eating like non parchy loaves.

[B]

I just realized something I never got.

[A]

I've got a Pl in the oven right now.

[B]

So jealous.

[A]

Yeah, I've been making them all sandwich style. It's just easier to deal with a thousand percent. Yeah.

[B]

I think we've daily and I think we've dallied. And I think it's time to do.

[A]

The fact to do Dadu. What we came here to do Dadu. Oh, also, I feel like there is probably a conspiracy. Like, I don't. I haven't seen anyone say this, but, like, if I was someone who, like, read too much into this show, I would be saying.

[B]

And there are a lot of people who do.

[A]

I would be saying, like, Bruno hasn't been on the show one day this week. Like, I would be asking questions after what he.

[B]

Tell everyone. Tell everyone the truth.

[A]

The truth is that he's downstairs sleeping and he doesn't want to go to work anymore. But if I were you guys, like, I would be really suspicious of me just saying.

[B]

Jackie, tell everyone the truth. What's the truth about Bruno?

[A]

That he's a precious, sweet angel who's a watermelon king.

[B]

Jackie, tell them the truth. They figured it out. They're on to you.

[A]

No one's figured out anything. I'm just saying, like, if I were you guys, those are the questions I would be asking, and you'd be wasting your time But I'm just saying, don't you think that's weird? He's literally here every day and then I tell this really crazy story about him and he doesn't show up again.

[B]

Maybe he's like done being exploited for.

[A]

Your paycheck or is he okay, you know?

[B]

No, that's what I'm tell them.

[A]

You want to tell them anything?

[B]

Yeah, no. Okay, I will, I will.

[A]

You just gotta rip the band aid off.

[B]

The thing is, it's like I don't. I'm kind of in the state of limbo.

[A]

Yeah, no, I know.

[B]

Like, once, you know, we had the baby, it was actually a really big struggle with Romeo. My in laws have been incredible. Incredible. He stayed with them for like two weeks and then we spent the summer with him. And he was just so poorly behaved and he's like so loud, waking up Ruby and pissing, like, really not good. So like two weeks ago we sent him back to my in laws and I'm really trying to get them to take him forever. And like, they know that I'm like being sneaky because we went over there for brunch. Like actually the last two weekends in a row. They're like, do you want to take Romeo home? I was like, he's having so much fun here. No. And they love him. And the second I feel like I'm being like an imposition, I'll obviously take him back. But I do feel like we're going to get to a place where like, Romeo, like, we have joint custody. Like, Romeo lives with both me and Pen's parents.

[A]

Operation Rehomeo.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. Or at least like stall until Romeo's at an age where he's not annoying. Like when he came when we got home from the Hamptons, like the first week, he woke Ruby up from like two naps. And I said, get. You're out of here. You are out of here. And they were more than happy to take him. So that's my truth. Yes. Romeo has been living abroad. Romeo's living abroad for, you know, I think better half of the month.

[A]

It's so normal. And obviously wherever if he go, if.

[B]

He does rehome, I'm just Jackie. I'm such a cliche. Like, I'm one of those influencers who got a dog.

[A]

Yeah. But it's like, not like that. I think a lot of people and you always send me funny tiktoks like of people who have babies. And it's just like things get different. Things get weird.

[B]

It. It is actually like a clinical diagnosis. For. I forget what it was called, but it's like ptsd. Sort of like postpartum pet syndrome. It's. It's real. And that's not really so much what I'm experiencing. What I'm experiencing is that he's inconveniencing me and I'm. It's a struggle for me to prioritize and take care of him because Ruby obviously comes first and that's not fair. And Ben's parents, oh my God, they treat. You should have seen how they treated Theo. Like a king. They're. Theo is still the background on their phones. They're obsessed with Theo. So like, I can't give that Ruby. Oh my God. I can't give Romeo that right now. Right. And so that wouldn't be fair to be selfish of me just because like, what? I want him to stay with me. Him like, not living his best life. So. Yeah, that's my fudgeing truth. Okay? Jackie pulled it out of me. I thought this was about you. Tell them about Bruno.

[A]

What do I have to say? Do I have anything to say or you want me to make something up?

[B]

Tell them the truth.

[A]

What's the truth?

[B]

You guys, Bruno died. Okay? There's nothing. He's a p job.

[A]

He is a p job. Watermelon.

[B]

Sorry, sorry. He was a pizza.

[A]

Watermelon gate like is in the past. But no, he hasn't shown up to work since. And I. I definitely think it's suspicious. If I were you guys, those are the questions I'd be asking. That's all I'm saying.

[B]

That's all she said.

[A]

Can't confirm or deny. But Bruno has not been seen. It's also say he's dead.

[B]

Y o because he's dad. Okay, Today's episode can't come to the phone right now because he ate too much Hershey's dark chocolate, zero sugar with.

[A]

Xylitol, whatever it's called Sour Patch Watermelon Kids.

[B]

And. And he's dead.

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[A]

Yeah.

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And you're just like, supposed to know stuff like that.

[A]

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[B]

No, literally, I was gonna keep her being a swaddle till he was 15. I didn't know that. Like, you took them out. Like you're just supposed to know this stuff. It's really hard. And so I feel like with so many things that are that cause you to spiral food is such a big one. If you're breastfeeding, if you're doing formula, which formula, which is best? And they really, like understand the spiral and they want to take one less thing off your plate. Raising a baby comes with a million questions. What if? What now? What next? You're gonna question everything except this. By heart is the formula that answers. I mean, I can only, like, if I ever were to like, really look through my chat GBT history, like, what I used to like, the pictures I would send, the questions I would ask. Like now in hindsight, like, they're such dumb questions, but, like, let me tell you, I was so confused and I was so scared.

[A]

Yeah. No, and I had a lot of.

[B]

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[A]

Yeah. I would love to see some of these questions that you were asking.

[B]

They're literally pictures of dirty diapers being like, is that a normal color?

[A]

That's classic.

[B]

Is Judy supposed to look like mustard?

[A]

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Start your day off swirly. Happy eggs. Slay, slay. Our first story. Oh, I feel like I had something to say. Oh, my God, the baby kicks so much when I'm doing the toast. And last night the baby was kicking. Baby was kicking. I saw, I was like, zach, come feel. And then he puts his hand on and nothing. I need him to come sit here for the show with his hand on my belly so that baby will simmer down.

[B]

Can I ask you a question? Like, does Zach, like, care? I remember, like, I was like, betty's kicking. He was like, cool. I was, excuse me.

[A]

He does, but, you know, every time the husband comes over to put the belly their hand up, they stop. It's the craziest thing. It's the craziest thing. And I just feel, like, obligated to let him know, like, so that he knows a. But that's not even, like, 1% of what's going on in here. Like, he could never, like, really grasp. But anyways, I need him to sit here with his hand on my belly so I can have some calm while I do the show.

[B]

Actually, I saw a tick tock. And that said, if you ever really want to explain what it feels like to have, like, a kick to a man, have them put their hand on their cheek and you put your tongue and you, like, poke your hand. Like, that's kind of what it's like, right?

[A]

Yeah, but without all the discomfort and.

[B]

Like, limbs and a dirty hand on your face.

[A]

Yeah, that's weird. I don't touch my face like that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay, first story. Summer I turned pretty major news finale of the show. But it's not over. Lola and Christopher Briney will return as Belly and Conrad in a movie of the summer.

[B]

I. Jeremiah. Not in the movie.

[A]

He's not in the headline, I'll tell you that much. Okay, he's definitely in the movie. But they're rounding out the series with a movie. So what happened in the series that will lend itself to a movie on prime? So it's not gonna be in theaters.

[B]

Oh, okay. So, like, I don't know. They really tied it up with a bow. It was really lovely. Yeah, I. I really liked the finale. Basically, like, Conrad gets on a plane and goes to see Belly in Paris because she, like, you know, cut her hair and moved to Paris because she blew up her whole life. And so the episode is going between them in Paris and then what's going on back home? Like, Jeremiah's becoming a tick tock chef. It's so stupid. But the scenes in Paris are amazing. Like, it's so. It's like we're watching two different shows. Every time they cut back to cousin's beach and Jeremiah is doing his stupid chef, I want to die. I'm like, go back. We get the ending that we needed. Spoiler alert. It's the same ending as the book. Obviously, she chooses Conrad. There's no Paris like in the. I don't think. And there's a wedding in the book of Conrad and Belly. And so I think that's probably what the movie's about. And I understand why there's a movie because, like, if you're a Conrad and Belly stand.

[A]

Like, you didn't get enough 10 minutes.

[B]

Yeah, we got 10 minutes. So I Get it? But, my God, they were really beating a dead horse with these 11 episodes. Anyways, so now a movie, it's. It's genuinely a lot. Even though I'm enjoying it, it's a lot. Like, I can acknowledge it's a lot.

[A]

But it does sound like the movie will be really enjoyable because it's, like, everything that you wanted this whole time.

[B]

Well, it better be. Like, maybe it's like the road to the wedding or I don't know what. What the plot could possibly be. And there's a lot of good stuff there. Like, Steven and Taylor end up together, and. Guys, Jackie's not gonna know what this means, but, like, what was the point of Denise? She was, like, this character they introduced in this third season that, like, worked with Stephen, and she, like, very briefly had a fling with Stephen, but then Steven realized, like, Taylor was the girl for him. And then at the very end of the episode, she, like, starts around with Jeremiah, like, who is this girl? It was so random and so stupid. Like, she was completely not necessary.

[A]

If they wanted, like, random extra characters, why not bring back Shayla?

[B]

Shayla? What about Shayla?

[A]

Sheila should be in the movie.

[B]

Yeah, maybe Conrad leaves Belly for Shayla.

[A]

Or Steven leaves Taylor for Shayla.

[B]

No, Stephen and Taylor are really cute. The music in the last episode was so good. I always feel, like, so young and hip when I watch this show. I'm, like, shazaming and adding these songs to my Spotify because I, like, know them, but I'm like, oh, that's that song, right? It was really good. Except for Belly's bob. So she. At the end of I told you last week, at the end of the 10th episode, she, like, goes to a haircutter. She's, like, living in Paris. She's, like, turning her life around. She wears red lipstick, and then she's, like at the hair salon, and the stylist is like, are you sure? She's like, I'm sure. And then we don't find out till the next episode what she ends up doing with her hair. And she gets a bob. You actually know. Like, I'm not against bobs. I'm against pixie cuts, but I'm not against bobs. I don't know what this fuck ass bob was. I think maybe in real life she didn't want to cut her hair. So you know how hairstylists can actually, like, tuck long hair and, like, give you a. Yeah, it was, like, the poofiest, craziest bob. She looks like Olivia when our dad took her to get her haircut at the barbershop.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. When Olivia was, like, 10 years old, my dad was in charge of getting Olivia a haircut. So we just, like, took her to the barber at, like, his club, and she literally got a triangular. We have to find pictures of Olivia from that era. She got. It's like, you can't even call it a bob. She looked like she got one of the Egyptian pyramids.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

We called it a triangle. It was such a crazy time in our family.

[A]

It really was.

[B]

Oh, my God, I'm crying. It was not as bad as Olivia's triangle, but it was just the craziest, poofiest bob that just did not suit her at all. And so she's living in Paris, and it's. They're trying to make a distinction that, like, a year has gone by. And she's very sophisticated now. She's, like, wearing espadrilles, and she's wearing these sort of, like, Bermuda shorts. I get the shift. She's wearing, like, a lip stainless, and the bob was supposed to signify, like, elevation. She looked so fucking crazy, like, running around Paris with her bob. And then there's, like, a sex scene, and they're playing dressed by Taylor Swift, and she's, like, supposed to be all sexy, and she looks good. You know, she looks good, except the bob. The bob. I'm like, what is this clown doing in a sex scene? Like, it was the craziest bop. I was so distracted. I. Other than that for, like, a Conrad and Belly said, which I am. I really feel like they did their story justice. It was a really, really, like, super cute episode for them when they kept going back and forth to the beach. I, like, seriously was not into it. But they ended. You know, they got back together. She ran to the train station. Like, it was perfect. And then they ended it. Like, they came home from wherever they were, and, you know, they went to cousins and they went to the house that started it all. And the episode just ends, like, zoomed out on them and, like, their favorite place. Super cute, but I'm sure I'll watch the movie.

[A]

She has been engaged to both brothers and has banged both brothers.

[B]

She's not engaged to Conrad, but, like.

[A]

She'S gonna marry him. So she will have been engaged his brother. And it's not like, you know, sometimes that happens when, like, one goes off to war and he's missing in action. So then you're with the other brother.

[B]

To feel it's okay when the other brother's dead.

[A]

Yeah. But then the other Brother comes back, like, you know, but just, like, girl couldn't make up her mind. She got engaged to two brothers. Yeah, that's really crazy. I'm sorry. As an outsider looking in, that's really crazy.

[B]

And she was also being incredibly stupid last night, too, because, like, he comes to find her, and at this point, like, she knows he's in love with her. It's not a secret. And he's, like, clearly there to win her back. It's her birthday. He came to surprise her, and she's, like, pretending like she's not into him. And then she has sex with him. She's just like, obviously, like, it's Conrad. So whatever you think that, like, this is their biggest reunion, the second they're done having sex, she gets up and he's like, where are you going? Like, we're gonna be together forever. Where are you going? And she's like, I'm going to pee. I don't want to get a uti.

[A]

Sexy.

[B]

Yeah. So then, you see, by the way.

[A]

I just want to say I really respect that because I feel like it's.

[B]

Touching a young generation of women.

[A]

It's true. You have to pee every single time. And, like, when you see these, like, romanticized versions of relationships and no one's getting up to pee, like, that's not good for vaginal health.

[B]

That's true. But you see her on the toilet, like, wiping her vagina, and she's, like, clearly like, thinking, you know, and then she goes back out and she, like, literally kicks him out of bed and tells him to go get on the train to Brussels. Like, it's not it. And it was like, wait, so why'd you just have sex with him?

[A]

They showed her wiping.

[B]

Yes. I thought that was crazy giving you girls. Okay, can I ask you a question? Like, an honest question?

[A]

Sure.

[B]

And women in the comments, please feel free to chime in. As a woman, when you pee, how.

[A]

Do you wipe front to back? Claudia, you have to.

[B]

Of course.

[A]

You have to.

[B]

Of course. I'm. I'm fully aligned. Okay. How are you doing that?

[A]

Hand around the back.

[B]

Around the back?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay, so belly, like, wiped in the front.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And she did wipe. It looked like front to back, but front. Do you know what I mean?

[A]

I. I'm trying to visualize, like, she just. It's like, shove a hand.

[B]

It's like.

[A]

That's really weird.

[B]

Okay. Because when I watched it, I was like, am I wiping wrong?

[A]

No, I don't think so. I think every wipe should be, like, the same sort of Motion as when you like poo.

[B]

Yes, I agree.

[A]

Okay. I think.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I think we're right for that.

[B]

You think we are.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And if anybody tells me anything else, like, as if we're like. It won't change my mind. Like, I feel really good about the way that I wipe.

[B]

But whenever people wipe in, like, movies and tv, like, they go in the.

[A]

Front, it is true.

[B]

So it's misleading for, like, women's health.

[A]

It's true. So they didn't go all the way on, like, Women on Women's Health education in this episode, but they. It was a good story. Start with the uti.

[B]

She was just being really.

[A]

I can't believe the show is this Jackie was that they showed her sitting.

[B]

On the john, wiping.

[A]

That's so girls. Like, that is like.

[B]

It's really very Luna Dunham coded.

[A]

It really is. It used to be, like, pargy.

[B]

Yeah. And I feel like TV and movies, like, as time evolves, gets, like, more graphic, you know, more sexual. We see a lot of things that you never would have seen on TV 10 years ago. And wiping is one of those things, like we see in a TV show now, and we don't even think it's so weird, but it really is.

[A]

And it's just. It doesn't drive the plot, you know.

[B]

Correct. Like, plot remains unchanged whether you wipe and whether you wipe front to back or back to front, even though it's.

[A]

All we could talk about.

[B]

Correct.

[A]

Maybe they put it in for, like, rage bait to spark conversations.

[B]

Well, it worked.

[A]

I'm in shock. I didn't know that's why the kids were watching like some girl in the.

[B]

Toilet wiping in Paris improperly. Yeah.

[A]

Maybe that's how the French do it.

[B]

Maybe that's how they like, it was. Actually, though I'm clowning a lot. I enjoyed every minute of it. I can't lie. When Conrad and Belly, like, got together. Obsessed. Like, I'm such a Team Conrad. I. It's. It is the younger Gen Z version of Team Edward and Team Bella. Like, are you Team Conrad or Jeremiah? Although I have yet to encounter an individual who is Team Jeremiah. Like, I actually knew people who were Team Jacob. I thought they were crazy, but I knew them. I knew they existed. I don't know that people like that exist for Jeremiah now.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. I. I can also say I don't know people who are Team Gemma in my life.

[B]

It's really was an amazing show. They're beating it, like, a little too much. But I'm still. I'm still having Fun.

[A]

Yeah. No movie sounds like a good idea. That's fun. As long as they didn't, like, leave it on a cliffhanger and make it really annoying, which they didn't.

[B]

No, no. We got what we wanted. We got a sex scene and we got Conrad and Jeremiah together.

[A]

You got whom together?

[B]

Oh, sorry. Conrad and Jeremiah.

[A]

A little brotherly love.

[B]

Yeah. The city of brotherly love.

[A]

Cousins, are you ready for our next story?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Curious news, because Adele is allegedly in talks to play the 2026 Super bowl halftime show, so. Allegedly, Adele has been approached about playing the halftime show this year, insiders tell Page Six, but she has not yet been booked to play the G. Rumors have been swirling that she could take the feel for the big game in Santa Clara, California, next February, and they hear that she's been in talks. But there's also buzz about the halftime candidates, including, of course, Taylor Swift as well as Miley Cyrus. Yeah, I've been seeing a lot of Miley news. This is the first time hearing Adele. I have a lot of different, like, theories as to what this could mean, but what do you think?

[B]

I have so many thoughts. Three words when it comes to Adele, not the vibe. Also, almost every year, there are rumors about certain people, and it's almost never who it's rumored to be. It's actually, like. It's actually a pretty well kept secret who it ends up being. Miley was rumored last year. It was basically confirmed. And then it was Usher. Like, was that last year?

[A]

No. Who was last year?

[B]

I don't remember.

[A]

Oh. Oh, the little one.

[B]

Oh, Kendrick Lamar. Right, right, right. The little one. It's almost never who it's rumored to be. So, like this.

[A]

Bam.

[B]

I don't understand. He ain't done with that. It's almost never who it's, like, rumored to be. So these conversations always end up being fruitless. But it's super fun to theorize. I think Miley, she's. Would be amazing. She's almost always in the rumored category. She's never done it. She has so many big all American hits. Party in the usa. I mean, we can't stop.

[A]

Flowers.

[B]

Miley Cyrus enters at Pets Flowers. Miley Cyrus enter dead Pets. We need to start remembering is a peepee poo poo album. When we're trying to explain to people what a Pee Pee Poopa album is.

[A]

It's true, though. People in the comments are gonna be like, no, there's some really amazing songs. Maybe there are, but it's a peepee poo poo album. Flowers biggest song in the country last year.

[B]

Like, so many Adele. And maybe, you know, I could see myself in a year from now. She did it, and it was the best, most amazing thing ever. I really don't see it.

[A]

No. I think Adele would be sickening. Like, it would be different for sure. And, like, we would definitely, like, all be sad and about to take in, like, some cinema and would be really powerful and not, like, the bam.

[B]

Right. Like, fun.

[A]

But plenty of people over the last few years have, like, come in and done something a little bit different than the typical. So I'm open to it. I just feel like. Let's get back to Taylor. Like, what. What about what happened? Like, it's Taylor's year. It's Travis's last year in the NFL. She said 47. She said sourdough. She said sourdough, Sam. Like, it's the. The codes are there. So are they just doing this to, like, throw us off? Because they don't want it to be so obvious.

[B]

I don't.

[A]

The shiny bug collection. Like, it's her Super Bowl.

[B]

Yeah. I thought it was, like, pretty much. Oh.

[A]

But confirmed.

[B]

And also, not to be, like, xenophobic, but, like, don't you think it should be an American?

[A]

I think it. It could be an American. It's not like we only have one. It's every year. So, like, sometimes it's.

[B]

You feel like everyone who's done it has been American.

[A]

No.

[B]

Am I wrong?

[A]

I don't feel that way.

[B]

I guess Shakira, but I don't know. It's different when you're Latin, like, half of America.

[A]

And, like, Rihanna's not from America.

[B]

Oh, that's true. But she's an. She's an American icon. I don't know. Adele is just so un American to me.

[A]

Like, she lives here. She's lived here for a while.

[B]

She's a resident. Yeah, she's one of us. Maybe it's just because her accent is so, like, prevalent.

[A]

But, like, if Harry Styles were booked for the super bowl, that would be fine by me. And he's not American. If the Beatles ever had played the Super Bowl.

[B]

If Harry Styles were booked for the Super Bowl, I'd be excited. I'd say it's great. But I would mention that it's weird that he's British. Maybe I just feel weird about British people because they're so not. Not football. You know, they don't. They don't know sport. Football means something else.

[A]

She's with rich Paul. So, like, she has sports connections.

[B]

She's, you're right. You're right.

[A]

I would. I actually think it would be. It would be unbelievable. Like, What a treat. 13 minutes of Adele prime time, like, on my screen. It's a she would, like, start. This is the end.

[B]

Oh, I like that.

[A]

Oh, my gosh. Love. Yes. Not the typical vibe, but would still be spectacular. And if it's not going to be Taylor, I love this. I love Miley. I. My worst fear is that it's not either any of them.

[B]

It's never who we.

[A]

And then it's gonna be someone that I'm, like, not super jazzed about.

[B]

Here is who I would allow it to be. And let's be clear. Like, I think that super bowl is for the girls.

[A]

And we haven't had a pop girly in a couple years. Not since Rihanna.

[B]

Taylor, Miley Pink. Even though I know she said she would never do it. Kelly, Carrie Underwood would take any of those five.

[A]

Those would be amazing to me.

[B]

None of them have done it.

[A]

I would love it. It's time. We need one for the girls. We've been patient last couple years.

[B]

True. It's true. We need one for the girls. Like, come on.

[A]

And it sounds like with these names, like, that's the vibe. But I just really fear that they're gonna make a turn with so much.

[B]

Of the new, like, of new fans of football being like Taylor Swift fans. And it's really become, like, a blended thing for, like, you know, wives and husbands, daughters and fathers. Like, give us a girl. Like, come on. It'll be fun.

[A]

Yeah. No, it's time.

[B]

Give us something.

[A]

Women's rights. Let's go.

[B]

Women's rights.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And more importantly, women's wrongs.

[A]

It will be a misogynist to not. And you wouldn't want to be a misogynist, would you?

[B]

You wouldn't.

[A]

That's a threat.

[B]

And Jay Z, let's not forget, is, like, at the helm of choosing it now. And I know him and Adele and Beyonce are, like, besties, so there's a good relation there.

[A]

Yeah. Last two have been men. What about the women?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Just saying. Let's play the female card. Are you ready for our next story? Some beauty news.

[B]

Oh, is it about me?

[A]

No.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

Kim Kardashian shutters her beauty line Skin by Kim, so quietly. Skin. Kim Kardashian's, like, beauty and skincare line has been shuttered. The brand's website now features a message to customers saying, with deep gratitude, we share that Skin by Kim will be winding down operations while this chapter is coming to A close. The commitment to innovation, self care and skin confidence at Skin and Body will live on in new and exciting ways. Cliffhanger.

[B]

So not surprising, right? They did that first launch and then never again. And it wasn't super promoted beyond the launch by Kim and her crew. So I imagine it wasn't her most successful venture. And I think because skims is so successful, anything that's not is really not worth her time because Skims is just like a beast. But this does enter the graveyard of Kim Kardashian businesses. She has quite a lot. You know, she's got KKW Beauty. Like, where is it?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Launched it, relaunched. Cody, this, that, that. I don't know what ended up happening. Skakin, KKW fragrances, Kimoji. Like, there are a lot. I guess you can't build something like skims without, you know, kissing a few frogs.

[A]

Yeah. You have to, like, fail up.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I also think that sometimes they fold into each other. Like, she could start, like, Skims Beauty and have, like, a tab on the Skims website or in skim stores with, like, a couple of the best things from kkw. Like, so I think that this is more of a folding thing. I don't think these products are going to be available again because I don't know, like, how popular they were to begin with. But when it comes to, like, other things that she's done, like fragrance, I think that that just folds in and I think that's a good idea. You don't need a million little brands, like, when you have the one behemoth, the mothership.

[B]

Yeah. And what's so interesting is, like, Kim in the beauty space, fragrance, skin care and makeup, like, didn't really pop off in the way that I think that we all thought it would, like the way Kylie's did. But her in the shapewear space is like, I don't know what skim's worth, like $4 billion the last time I heard. It's huge. I just wouldn't have expected that for her. I would have expected her makeup because she really invented, like, the whole glam culture contour queen. She didn't invent it, but she mainstreamed it, popularized it. And so I was surprised that, like, KKW Beauty didn't do as well as I thought it would have.

[A]

Well, I feel like when it was in its heyday, like, and she was putting all the effort into it, but also, like, competing with Kylie, I feel like it was really strong. But then, like, skims just is so much more successful, like, it takes less to promote it and she's able to like, pay other like, people and marketed with other influencers and it like runs itself. So again, like, why would you invest so much time in a brand that just like, does less and requires more work for you?

[B]

I feel like we haven't heard like a Kim's a skims campaign in a while. She needs to have the Nader girls.

[A]

Yeah, that's a good one.

[B]

Like they're the girls of the moment.

[A]

Yeah. And they're Hulu family. That's so obvious.

[B]

Do you think that this is going to be like such a maybe. Dumb question. Do you think they feel competitive at all? Like, like maybe Kim wouldn't do a skims campaign with them because they're sort of positioning themselves as like the next big reality family sister show on the same network. Hulu.

[A]

I would be shocked if that's how they think like that. Like to be like that.

[B]

Anyone can compete.

[A]

That anyone can compete. They're so beyond like the family show now. I wouldn't be surprised if eventually they stopped doing a show and they would be glad to pass the baton and they have their businesses and they've like, they've achieved what they set out to achieve and it's not, you know, more shows or more episodes.

[B]

So. Just a thought.

[A]

That would be really surprising. But I, I do hear what you're saying, but Brooks and Chloe are like friends. They were in the, the Hulu in the show.

[B]

Friends.

[A]

Like chit chatting.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

I don't think they're like that.

[B]

Me neither.

[A]

I think they're very secure.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Are you ready for our fourth story?

[B]

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Yes, it is.

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You're co I am. Our fourth story. Nina Dobrev is soaking up the sun on a yacht vacation with Zac Efron, Chase Crawford and pals after her split with Shaun White. So Nina Dobrev is turning up the heat while vacationing on a yacht with Zac Efron, Chase Crawford and her other A list friends, including the Tellers, following her split from Sean White. She was spotted lounging in the sun, cocktail in hand, and hanging with the group.

[B]

And sort of answering a question posed on this podcast mere days ago is, who gets Kelly Teller and Miles Teller in the divorce? Will it be Sean or will it be Nina? And the answer is Nina, clearly.

[A]

Because I think Nina was first friend of first.

[B]

Yeah, I think so too. And a lot of people are like, oh, my God, she's with Zac Efron. No, you don't understand. Like, Kelly Teller collects these heartthrobs. She's always hanging out with Chace Crawford. Now Zac Efron is a part of it. I don't think he's there, like, as Nina's date. I think he's just there because, like, the Tellers, you know, hang out with lots of cool guys.

[A]

I don't think he's there as Nina's date, but, like, why not them?

[B]

Zach Efrain's weird. Do you feel like, with the exception of Vanessa, don't forget the anniversary, relationship wise, I feel like he doesn't. Like, no one else comes to mem. Comes to mind.

[A]

You've had a couple of, like, flings? No, just, like, girlfriends that were just, I don't know, like, more, I guess random. Like, not normies completely, but just, like, more like artsy, creative types. I don't think he, like, goes for, like, the big actresses. No.

[B]

He doesn't accept when he was in love with Zendaya, but he doesn't have, like, I feel maybe he keeps it all private, but I feel like he's not a relationship guy.

[A]

I think he keeps it all private.

[B]

Okay, that's fair. He's entitled to that, I guess.

[A]

But, like, I don't know why. If they're both on a boat, like, both looking good, like, why they're not looking at each other like, hey, you know, Mr. Right now.

[B]

Right, right. Which I think he does love to be.

[A]

So I, I, I. Yeah, I don't see why not. Why not? Why not?

[B]

Then take a crazy chance.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Do a crazy dance.

[A]

I ship. I love Zac Efron.

[B]

I love Zach.

[A]

Like, I just love him so much.

[B]

Why do you love him? Because. Great. Like, like what about him endears you to him the most.

[A]

Just, like, everything that he ever did. Like, he's such a big part. He was, like, the heartthrob our childhood. He's really lived up to it. In adulthood, though, he's, like, taking some weird twists and turns. He's, like, really never completely lost his mind.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I just, like, want what's best for him. I'm always rooting for him.

[B]

Yeah. And, like, when I think about why I love Zac Efron so much, I think a lot of it for you probably has to do with the greatest showman.

[A]

She doesn't.

[B]

For me, it really has to do with Hairspray. Like, yeah, like, no, it's me and I'm like. And, oh. Every afternoon when the clock strikes for bop deep. Bop, bop, bop, bop, bop deep. They're crazy, but you get scratch through that. I feel the same way about James Marston. Honestly, I feel the same way about.

[A]

Even though he wrote the letter.

[B]

Even though. Yeah, even though he wrote the letter. Everyone who participated in Hairspray, for me, like, is the, like, amazing because it will always be a fan of them. Goaded.

[A]

Mickey Blonsky, of course.

[B]

Goes without saying. James Marsden. Queen Latifah, Amanda Bynes.

[A]

No. I'm so with you. I. Yeah, I think he's fab. Plus High School Musical. One, two, and three. Each one being, like, its own entity. Each one being its own entity. Troy Bolton.

[B]

The rest of my life to be just like a high school music.

[A]

Like, Troy Bolton has never lost his luster.

[B]

It's actually so true. Like, he was a teenage heartthrob, you know, a young adult heartthrob, mid-20s heartthrob, and now we're all, like, a millennial heartthrob. He's really it.

[A]

He really is. I even love, like, his random movies. Like, that Awkward Moment. Like, such a good movie, Neighbors. Such a good movie.

[B]

Yeah. Was he in Project X?

[A]

No, no, no, that was Miles Taylor.

[B]

Right, right, right.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I haven't really kept up with his.

[A]

Whole, like, Netflix show Zach were on in that awkward moment together. Maybe they're friends from there.

[B]

I haven't kept up with his, like, work.

[A]

His man versus Wild.

[B]

Yeah. With his brother Dylan. But, you know, have fun.

[A]

No, Like, I'm just always rooting for you in the corner.

[B]

Agreed.

[A]

So anyways, like, I would love to see that. I mean, I wouldn't even. I don't expect to see anything from them. I don't think they're gonna be, like, boyfriend and girlfriend, but, like, I hope Maybe they could provide each other some comfort.

[B]

And the streets. And by the streets, I mean Tick Tock. Like, they're pretty much saying Sean cheated on Nina. Allegedly. It's, like, all but confirmed. And they know who it's with, too.

[A]

An influencer.

[B]

Yeah, like a girl.

[A]

It was, like, on an influencer trip. That's what I heard. I guess I had. I don't know. I never got a name. Honestly, I'm not gonna say it.

[B]

I don't remember the name, but I'm not gonna say it because, like, what's.

[A]

What?

[B]

It's wrong.

[A]

Do I know who she is? No.

[B]

And, like, what if I'm wrong? Because I just saw it on Tick Tock and I'm over here on my huge podcast saying some girl broke up a family.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

I'm not doing it.

[A]

Are you ready for our.

[B]

Her name was out. No, I'm kidding.

[A]

Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

SNL announces hosted musical guests for their first batch of season 51 episodes. With one star pulling double duty and it is another none under. Then Sabrina Carpenter will be hosting and performing for the October. Which show is it? It's. It's just important because of Taylor. October 18th episode. She will be doing both.

[B]

SNL loves her and she loves SNL. And I think it's actually great for SNL because she's so Gen Z. And I don't really think any young people watch snl, but they do tune in when she does her little Domingo skits. And so I think it's great. Synergetically.

[A]

Yeah, it's great. She's perfect. She reminds me of Ari in that sense where, like, she's perfect for it. She's so humorous. She's saying she actually could do it all personality.

[B]

It's the Disney. Like when you're a child star.

[A]

Even when she was, like, really making the round, she crushed it on SNL so many times. So this will be great, like, for her album. But also, we do know. I think people were surprised to see that Taylor will not be doing SNL in October, even though her album's coming out and she would be in promo mode. However, this does leave open the opportunity that she would perform with Breener. Their collab from the life of a showgirl.

[B]

I don't think so. And I don't think Sabrina would like. That's a huge moment for Sabrina. And while it's great that she has a song with Taylor, like, she is her own entity, I don't think that Taylor will come. I think that And I'm glad to see it. Taylor has been the biggest artist in the world for, like, the last couple of years, and sometimes she doesn't act like it. Right. She still does, like, the same circuit that, like, all the other smaller artists do. Like, you know, she goes on some of the late shows and she does the radio stuff, and it's like she plays the I Heart Media Awards, and it's like, why Beyonce doesn't do that. The Beatles wouldn't. And maybe she's finally, just, like, acting as famous as she is. Like, you don't need to go on SNL every time you have new music. That's what other people do. Not the biggest star in the world. Just what I think.

[A]

I think she'll go on. If it's not with Briner, then it'll be in November when she has, like, when people are more familiar with the album.

[B]

I would love to see her. Not, like, I just think, like, she's so famous, and I feel like sometimes she forgets how famous she is.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

She just does, like, the music industry circuit because she thinks she has to. And, like, maybe there was a time where she did, but you don't have to do that anymore. Like, stay home. It's fine.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Even though I would love to see you on SNL.

[A]

October 4th will be bad Bunny and Doja Cat as a musical guest. He's been on before, but this will be her first time.

[B]

And it's, like, weird when somebody, like, hosts and they're a singer and they don't sing.

[A]

Yeah, it is weird. And then October 11th will be Amy Poehler with musical guest Role Model.

[B]

Okay. And do you think obviously, Role model is going to sing his song Sally and this thing he does that's actually gone really viral. It's been really smart. Is every time he sings Sally on tour, he brings out somebody to be the Sally. And it's. He's pulled enormous celebrities. He had Natalie Portman, Kate Hudson, tons of different influencers. Olivia Rodrigo. So do you think he'll bring out Amy Poehler as his Sally? That would be funny.

[A]

Maybe he'll bring out someone. I don't know if it'll be her. Won't she be, like, changing for her next thing?

[B]

She might be busy, and she also might be introducing him. You know, like, they put you in front, they're like, yeah, yeah. So who the Sally will be?

[A]

I'm excited.

[B]

It's been, like, an amazing time to be named Sally.

[A]

You think so?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Why?

[B]

I don't know. I just feel like the name Sally's, like, coming up a lot. I don't know.

[A]

I only have one Sally in my life.

[B]

Alex, Earl's friend.

[A]

Yeah, she's the Sally for me.

[B]

A thousand percent. See, like I said, everything's coming up Sally, just the one, and Sally the song. Yeah, I just feel like Sally's also, like, such a cutesy name. Like, I never met a girl named. Actually, I've never met a girl named Sally, but if I did, I just feel like she'd be really cute with, like, a ponytail that, like, bops around when she walks.

[A]

For sure. For damn sure.

[B]

Let's wrap up today's episode with a little segment we like to call Queenie and Weenie of the Week. It is a weekly segment every Friday. It's pretty much the last thing we leave you with before the weekend. And it's our way of taking a look back, you know, at a glance, if you will, at the week, and giving out two awards. Queenie of the Week and Weenie of the Week. They're exactly as they sound. It's not that serious. If you find yourself. We need the week one time. Don't worry. You could be Queenie the next week. It's yet to happen, but it's possible. Jackie, let's start off. Who is your Queenie of the Week?

[A]

There's really only one Queenie of the.

[B]

Week, and let's say it together.

[A]

Three, two, one. Brooks, Nader, Harry. Oh, because of the titles.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay, well, so then there's two Queenies, But I think they both crossed my.

[B]

Mind, by the way, Brooks and the.

[A]

Neighbor sisters are the Queenies of the Week. We watched their show this week. They have been everywhere. They're in their Queenie moment. We are so glad to be introduced to them and really been. We've been loving everything that they're putting out. So we love thy Nader, Brooks, and you are my Queenie.

[B]

You are my honorary Queenie. But I've had so much fun this week. And to be honest, different members of your family were all in the running because your husband also deserves a mention when it comes to Queenie the Week. I had so much fun taking a trip down memory lane with oh Me, oh My. A love like this comes once in a lifetime.

[A]

And he.

[B]

He really crushed it with that. And I feel like at the time, maybe he didn't even get enough credit for how sweet and thoughtful it was. We were like, you know, oh, this is fun, but where's my purse? You know? But, like, now, in hindsight, it was seriously so cute. It aged so well. I listened to it on repeat the other day. So honorable mention to Zach. But no, Harry is my queenie of the week because I love your cake. Spritz has spawned such a joyful, funny inside joke here at the Toast. I almost kind of want to give you Queenie of the week because I sort of heard him say, and I'm like, oh, that's cute and funny. And I moved on with my life. You, like, made it a thing, so now it's, like, a part of our vernacular. So really, everyone in your family, with the exception of Charlie, is my queenie.

[A]

Of the wine red family.

[B]

Yeah. Minus Charlie.

[A]

Stop. He was such a queenie this week.

[B]

Totally. I'm kidding.

[A]

He was such a queenie.

[B]

So I guess, yeah, in. In a sense, it's the wine Reb family.

[A]

I love that. And for me, it's the Nader family. The family Nader Weenie of the week.

[B]

I feel like all week, everybody was talking about the summer I turned pretty, and I was, like, finally able to participate in it last night. And so my weenie of the week is the person responsible for the Bob. Whether it's the person who cut it, the person who tucked it, or even, like, the director whose idea it was, I don't know who I want to blame, but I want to blame someone, and I'm making them the weenie of the week.

[A]

Okay, that's really beautiful. And I do think, like, for all the money and time and energy that Hollywood spends on, like, their productions, they even filmed fake scenes with Jeremiah in Paris to throw off fans. Like, they skimp on nothing. And you can't get a wig that looks good that will never not Marlon Ackerman. Ackerman, Kristen Stewart, and Twilight. Like, what's with the wig department?

[B]

Meanwhile, you don't even know, like, all of your favorite celebrities in their own lives. Like, they're all wearing wigs. Kardashians wear wigs all the time. You would never know what's going on. It can be done.

[A]

It's so weird. It's so weird. My weenie. I feel like my week has also very much been captured by Dancing with the Stars. So I have two Dancing with the Stars related weenies. One is, of course, Gleb Sanchenko.

[B]

Love.

[A]

Like, love. There's never been a bigger weenie. And also the Dancing with the Stars voting system. What the is that?

[B]

I know. And we know. Like, we acknowledge, like, we're new here. It's been around for centuries. But don't try discovering how stupid it is.

[A]

You get to give your own scores. You could give a seven votes out of 10. I'm not the judge. I just want to vote for my faves. And my third Winnie would also be whoever put Whitney in that score skirt. And I know everyone is like the tango. It's the tango. It's a tango.

[B]

It was the perfect outfit.

[A]

Tango. I'm not supposed to see the legs.

[B]

I like how suddenly everyone's like an expert in ballroom dancing.

[A]

And so now I want to make sure anytime someone does a tingle on dance and one stars that I can't see their legs.

[B]

That's what you're saying? Yep.

[A]

Cool, cool, cool.

[B]

Co. That is our show. You guys, thank you so much for listening to the toast. I hope you all enjoyed this week's episodes as much as I did. I like your episodes week.

[A]

Oh, what a joy. Do you think we'll bring it in?

[B]

I can't wait to see what today's title is. I hope we bring it into next week.

[A]

I'm so down for it. It's so funny to see on the charts because we're always charting and we're like the number one podcast in the world to see how all the episode titles look like. I love your shows. I love your show. Hulu. I love your cake spritz. Yeah, I do love your cake spritz.

[B]

Thank you so much for listening to the toast of blood and morning show. We deliver the fastest stories he needs to everybody Friday YouTube. Please feel free to subscribe. Use the video thumbs up. We're also available as podcast repos. Be found this Spotify public radiocast plus all the place webcast social. Beautiful setting and wickedly talented. We are.

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