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Good morning, girlies.
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It's the Toast.
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It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host. It's your favorite show, the Fast 5.
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Things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast.
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They sound amazing.
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Welcome back to the Toast and Happy Monday. Hope everybody's having a partialicious definition make the boys go loco kind of morning already. I've been making the boys go loco all morning long.
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I think you've been making yourself go loco, Jackie.
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You're not saying it with the right intonation. It's loco.
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Well, I'm not a tostada, so. Like, that would be cultural appropriation.
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You. That's the understatement of the century. You are not a tostada. Actually. I can't believe we never shared this. Over the summer, I discovered the craziest thing about my sister Jackie. Obviously, like, we actually speak Spanish quite well. We grew up speaking it. Obviously took it in school and stuff. And I overheard over the summer, Jackie speaking Spanish, and let me tell you, like, question mark, she does not speak Spanish. She says Spanish words in the most American accent you can think of. So you would say, you know, buenos tardes, Jackie. No, Jackie says, buenos tardis.
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Yeah. I announce every letter. Someone was asking me something. I was like, yo know her cuerdo.
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And I said, requiredo. She's. So you speak more American than you do when you speak English.
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I know. I'm just, like, trying to pronounce everything, even though everywhere. Every sit.
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Yeah.
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Of how you're supposed to speak Spanish. And the thing is, like, I actually have a lot of words, like, I was pulling out, you know, palabras, left and right.
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Muchilas, mochilas.
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Don't forget the mochilas.
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She. Yeah, she, like. She was very smart in school, so she, like, learned a lot from. But the accent. And for me, it's the opposite. I actually don't know a lot of Spanish words, but I.
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You have the flare.
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Like, I was born to speak the language, you know?
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Like you were born to speak espanol.
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Yeah. How do you say language in Spanish? Linguista.
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That sounds right.
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It does sound right, but I feel like it's not. Say language in Spanish.
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I don't know. I just use P. Oh, no, it's.
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It's. It's idioma.
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Oh, that's classic idioma.
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Or as Jackie would say, idioma.
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Idioma. Yeah. No fun fact about me. I am who I am, you know?
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And she's gonna pronounce all the Letters, Even the ones that are intended to be silent.
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Right. And I just. I don't know. People talk about this all the time. Like, sometimes it's offensive when people, like, put on an accent. We've all seen that sketch.
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Right? Right.
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Top USA gazpacho offensive.
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It's so, so annoying.
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It's annoying, but it's also, like, who are you? Like, stop.
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Yeah, sorry. I respect the language, but I don't.
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Know, it just feels like a costume. I'm just being me, speaking another language. I hope you can understand.
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I am being me. Tambien, you know?
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Well, you are tostada.
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Correct? Oh, sorry.
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C. Sepuede.
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Oh, sisypued. I'm glad you brought that up, because you know what I can do.
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Oh, I thought you were gonna kick your leg or something.
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No, actually. And I never feel more, like, in touch with my, like. Like, Hispanic accent than when I say sisa puerto, you know?
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Yeah.
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America Ferreira ate with that.
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She did. She left no crumbs.
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Settle, settle. How was your weekend? We actually haven't chatted that much this weekend. I pretty much.
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I called you late last night. We actually had such a funny experience because I called Claudia.
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Oh, my God. This was seriously funny. You ever experienced a conversation, like, outside of your body?
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I would call Claudia, and as I was calling her, I was, like, sitting up ramrod straight, and it was giving, like, I have an announcement. I was literally thinking, like.
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And wait. And you, like, called and didn't say anything. You just, like, looked at me, and I was like, oh, wait, am I supposed to be. And I literally went like this. You're pregnant. Oh, wait. Like, yeah, you're literally. Now it's pregnant. I literally thought you were calling to tell me. Like, that's how you would call me to tell me you were pregnant.
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Claudia, when I called you and I saw myself in the camera, I'm like, I look like I'm about to tell her I'm pregnant. And then I thought to myself, it would be funny if I called her and said, I'm pregnant.
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Because, you guys. I literally went.
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She literally did. But it was, like. It was just crazy that we both had the same thought.
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You were being weird.
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I guess I was. It was just because I was sitting.
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Funny and you didn't say anything. You looked at me with, like, this little smirk, and I was like, oh, wait, what? You're pregnant? And then I was like, oh, yeah, no, you are. You have been for nine months.
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Like, yeah, yeah, so that was funny. No, but. So we chatted last night. But, like, not about our weekends at a glance.
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No. And the only thing I really have to share from my weekend is all the TV I watch. Like, I was sat. I watched Love Thy Nader in full. I'm done.
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Did I? Let's recap it at the end, shall we?
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Yep.
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Great.
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I also watched Charlie Sheen's documentary because, like, Ben and I were having a hard time deciding on something on Friday night. And this was before he became obsessed with Love Thy Nader. So at first it was like a show I had to watch on my own. So we watched the Charlie Sheen documentary. It's two parts. I'm like, not.
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A she involved.
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I'm not involved. Like, I don't know really. I just know the Denise of it.
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All.
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Right. Do you?
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Even though.
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No.
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Right.
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She was in the documentary, by the way. It was amazing. Like, first of all. So I remember, like, him becoming like, viral for like being on crack. Right. But I didn't realize how, like the entire nation, like, was obsessed with him while he was on crack. Like, they loved the crack version. So much so that he went on tour and did like a cracked out show.
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Hashtag.
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And people like hashtag winning. Yes, duh. Winning. And let me tell you, like, Charlie Sheen, the man is actually very funny. So when he like went on crack and like did his show, like, I'm sure it was hilarious. But he was in the documentary, like being himself and the way he just story tells is funny. And there's so much Sheen. First of all, I, I think I. I knew, but I had forgotten that he's brothers with Emilio Estevez.
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No, but also, who's the other Sheen from Twilight?
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From Twilight.
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Michael Sheen.
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He's his dad. Oh, is he Volturi? Yeah, his dad is Michael Sheen.
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Michael Sheen is the Michael Sheen's in Twilight? Yeah, he's head of Volturi Mike.
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No, he's not the head of Voltori.
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Yeah, he is. That's his dad.
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He's 56 now. That Martin Sheen. Sorry. Martin Sheen. Martin.
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Okay. And Michael Sheen is just a Sheen from Twilight. And he's not related to Charlie, apparently.
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He's not. Oh, that's so weird. I forgot about Michael Sheen. Sorry. Martin Sheen is from the West Wing. He's like the biggest actor from his time. He was in like a million movies. He had five kids, two of which became really famous. Emilio Estevez and Charlie Sheen.
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Why do they have different names?
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Oh, my God. So Martin. No, Charlie Sheen's real name is Carlos Estevez.
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Okay.
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When Emilio got famous first, he became Emilio Estevez. They kept saying Estevez. So I think I'm saying it wrong.
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But you should say, right. Yeah, I'll say Estevez.
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Yeah. Charlie was saying Estevez. He said when he became famous, I think he wanted to differentiate himself a little bit from his brother. And he was like, I was so jealous of my brother when he got famous. And that, like, really, like, catapulted him into, like, wanting to be a movie star. So he just changed his whole name, he thought, to Charlie Sheen. He wanted Sheen from Martin, and it's crazy. Like, Martin Sheen.
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And why was Emilio. Why were they the Estebis if their dad is Sheen?
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I'm not sure. They didn't answer that. They just had, like, a lot of names thrown around.
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Okay, Okay.
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I think maybe Martin. No, actually, I don't know. So Emilio Estevez and Martin Sheen are not in the documentary, although they're, like, ever present in the entire story. Because, like, Martin Sheen is just. I didn't know much about Martin Sheen. He's this amazing dad, right? Like, he's still really close with Charlie after all they've been through and was there for him, like, the entire time. So I forgot about his, like, Nepo part of his life. Like, I only really knew the Denise of it all, honestly. Oh, man, what a crazy story. Now the only thing that, like, got me a little miffed. It's like, I knew he was, like, a druggie, and, like, whatever. He didn't hurt anybody. He was just, like, on drugs and never showed up to Two and a Half Men. And Two and a Half Men was, like, the biggest show. When it got canceled, everyone was upset. They replaced Ash and Kutcher. Like, nobody liked it. Yeah, I knew all of that. And I was like, I feel like there's something more nefarious going on. So then at the end of the documentary, which is, like, a really good documentary about his life, all the crack he did, they had his drug dealer. They had Sean Penn in it. They had Heidi Fleiss, the famous escort, and she only went to prison because Charlie ratted her out. Like, there was a lot. They got everyone. It was really good. And then they're like, okay, we need everyone to leave the room, like, on set. And he's like, all right, Charlie, we're gonna ask you some things, like, you've never publicly spoken about. He was accused of two things. One, he has hiv. And I guess, like, he got sued later on in life for, like, giving it or not, for not disclosing partners. And he was like, well, it's true. I didn't disclose it to partners, but, like, I wasn't running around. I never gave it to anyone. So, like, a lot of people, like, he said these girls would come to my house, and they knew I had HIV because, like, they saw all my meds everywhere. And so, like, they would, like, like, use me as bait, too. And so I was like, okay, well, that's, like, kind of crazy to not tell people you have hiv. But, you know, all in all, you didn't give it to anyone.
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Assume that they saw your meds and knew what that meant.
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But he said he's like, I knew at the time, like, I couldn't give it to anyone because I was asymptomatic and, you know, whatever.
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Like, he knew he wasn't contagious at the time.
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And then I was like, I feel like there's something more nefarious about Charlie Sheen. I can't remember what it is besides, you know, Brook Mueller. Drugs, crack, doing crack. And it was that the child star, Corey Haim. Let me just make sure I know there's two child stars, Corey Haim and Corey Feldman.
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Corey Feldman is, like, going on Dance.
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With the Stars, right? Corey Haim alleged that, like, years, years ago on the film of. On the set of the film, Lucas, Charlie Sheen raped him. And Charlie was like. He answered it very directly. He was like, I literally didn't. He's like. And he was kind of convincing.
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I was like, corey Haim still with us?
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Yes. And he said that, like, who's the one who passed? I'm not sure. Maybe it was Corey Haim. He's like, I never did. And he was like, so much so that Corey Haim's mother came out and said, like, it's impossible that Charlie Sheen could have done this. Like, he was really. And I don't know, like, if you. He didn't need to make a documentary. Right? Like, nobody really is, like, needing to hear from Charlie Sheen. So if you have these, like, crazy allegations, unless you're really innocent, like, why would you even attack it head on?
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Yeah.
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But up until that point, I was, like, kind of rooting for Charlie. And then after that, I was like, oh, I didn't know that. Like, that was what you were accused.
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He's no longer with us. Corey.
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Him.
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He passed away in 2010.
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And then the last thing they said when there was, like, this closed set, which I thought was really crazy, because I'm like, well, up until this point, I don't know why he would have, you know, done that. He's not Gay. Like, he. All the women. He was married three times. Denise was in the documentary. But then he goes on to say, like, you know, when I was on crack, and this is something I used to be really ashamed of, but, like, literally, who cares? He's like, crack. And the type of crack I was doing makes you hypersexual. Just makes you, like, very, very sexual. And, like, yeah, I was having sex with men. And, like, that's something I. And I. He's like, I think that's something I used to be ashamed of. Like, I don't care anymore. So, like, oh, well, that's crazy to share. Right. After you're discussing that allegation. I don't know the whole thing. I was inclined to believe him, but then after that, I was just like, people, you know. Well, which people? Corey or Charlie?
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Sorry. You and I are the Elk of believers. Like, I really take people at their word and when I probably shouldn't.
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I know. And the whole time, he was so genuine. Right. Like, he didn't have to sit down for this documentary. He was so open. And if he really had, like, true demons, I can't imagine him sitting down and producing his own documentary. Like, I don't know. And you're right. I do take people at their word. And I'm very easily, like, swayed by people. And he does have this, like, movie star, sort of Gina. Sais quoi. I. They just saved that allegation to the very end. Up until that point, I was like, oh, what happened to Charlie Sheet is so sad.
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You know, Rahim's no longer here, so.
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Right.
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He can say what he wants. And there's no way to really know that's actually true. Just saying.
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It was a really good documentary. Ben enjoyed it as well. Like, they really got. When they cut to Heidi Fleiss, famous.
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Madam, was it like the feeling when Adriana sat down in.
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Correct. Correct. And I also saw the Downton Abbey movie on Friday.
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I know. Don't spoil anything, but I'm not top of top line. How was it?
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I was really happy that the theater was packed with exclusively geriatrics. Like, it was such. Like, it was hilarious. It was amazing. Like, they don't do anything bad. Even though the movies, not all of them, have been, like, the best. It's all just, like, one big episode.
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Yeah.
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And I think a lot of people are like, it's called Downton Abbey, the grand finale. But, like, it's not. You know, they're always. But they did really tie it up with montage.
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Yeah. They could always Squeeze another one out. You know, we got them kids now.
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Yeah. The kids were barely in it. I thought the premise of this film was that Mary goes to America.
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Okay.
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Or like, the family goes to America. And it wasn't. It all took place, like, at Downton, which is great. But it did make me think we need a movie where they. Because they're.
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They're tied to America, because then the movie that they would make is literally gilded age. Like, the good version.
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Yeah, because Paul Giamatti, who plays Cora's brother, he comes over from New York. So, like, the movies are really about New York in a sense.
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Yeah.
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I thought they went to America, and I was, like, more excited about that plot. So I think I just need, like, the down to maybe a Q lab. Like a movie where the Guild. Where they stay at Carrie Coon's house.
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Yeah. The timing is in 100. Because they're, like, 1930s now in gilded ages. Earlier than that. But there's definitely some crossover to be had.
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Yeah. They could stay at, like, you know, something. Yeah, it was really good. It was fun to go to the movies.
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I went to the movies this weekend, and I did not see Downton Abbey, unfortunately. But we did something really fun, something new. We took the kids to a movie because Toy Story. 30th anniversary. It's the 30th anniversary of Toy Story. Congrats. I love your cake. Toy Story. And Olivia was taking her kids because she said, like, she likes going to the movies once in a while with her kids. She says it's so fun. And I'm like, you know, so anti screen time. So I was, like, really nervous. But, like, it was in the afternoon on Saturday. It storms here every afternoon, like it's hurricane season. So, like, it's a nice indoor activity. So I was like, okay, like, we'll try it. It's Toy Story, you know, it's one of the oldies. And it was so fabulous. It was so cute to take them to a movie. The only unfortunate part was that, like, I had to watch Toy Story.
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I know. I'm thinking, like, can you leave them there with Zach and go see Downton Abbey?
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I wouldn't even want to. Plus, the runtime was actually pretty short, like, for. Compared to, like, what we're used to now, sitting in the movies for, like, three hours.
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Three hours.
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It was like an hour 15 max. It was, like, the perfect amount of time before they got, like, stir crazy. But they were really into it the whole time. I've never, like, watched Toy Story with such a close Eye, but like, Woody the wot.
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The Woody, the woke.
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Jealous wench.
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Oh, jealous of Buzz.
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Jealous of Buzz. Like, gaslighting other toys.
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Woody. I feel like I remember watching recently, like, Woody had, like, a chip on his shoulder.
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He really did. Like, he thought he was the number one guy in this group, and it's like, bro, we're toys. We're in a rot. Temptation.
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Everything to everyone all at once.
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Right? And Annie's been really good to you. Just enjoy that. I didn't realize the character of Rex, I'm pretty sure, is voiced by the teacher from Clueless, Mr. Howe. What's his name?
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Oh, Cyrus.
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Cyrus from Gossip Girl?
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Yeah, he.
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Yeah, Claudia. He had me laughing.
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I know.
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I know. He's so yucky in person, but in the 90s, he voiced Rex in Toy Story, and he did a fantastic job.
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Watching, like, OG Movies like that that I've voiced over. It's actually, like, distracting because at least for me, I spend the entire time, I'm like, oh, that's. That's the guy.
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Oh, yeah.
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Oh. Oh, yeah. Like, it's. And I'm, like, googling the whole time. It's like, just shut up and enjoy.
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No, Woody is so Tom Hanks. Like, great.
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Woody is so Tom Hanks. Wait, Buzz is the Tool Man?
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Yeah, the Tim Allen.
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The Tool Man.
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Tim Allen. And Buzz just got his own movie. But I heard it was bad.
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And it's Chris Pratt, right?
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Oh, is it?
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I think that's also Mario. Okay, maybe I'm thinking Mario. Who else is a voice in. What are the other characters?
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Slinky. Mr. Potato Head. Who plays Mr. Potato Head? He had a lot to say.
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I just feel like the last time I saw a movie like that, like the new Lion King, which I enjoyed a lot, I was like, oh, that's is Billy Eichner. It's, like, so annoying.
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Okay. Jim Varney plays Slinky. I don't know who that is. Mrs. Potato Head. Estelle Harris. She looks cute. I don't know her. Don Rickles plays Mr. Potato Head. Oh, that feels right. That feels right. No.
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What'd you. What did you eat at the movies? Oh, my gosh.
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Well, I had popcorn. Like, you know, of course, no additional butter. Thank you so much. My husband was.
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I did no additional butter, too.
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My husband was in heaven because, you know, he loves to go to the movies and to take the boys to the movies. He was like, this is the best day of my life.
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Of my life.
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He got additional butter, and it smelled so buttery. Like, it's so Yucky. Yeah.
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I don't know why. And I'm, like, fat. So I. I wasn't doing it. No.
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It's not even local, but it's like. It's got plenty butter. We're good. Yeah.
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It just looks like. And the way they just like, slosh it in. I don't know. I wasn't feeling it, so I said, no butter. And I was, like. Literally felt so skinny. I was like, yeah, no butter. I'll have to. I'll have. I got dibs.
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Oh, I got a bunch of crunch.
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I got peanut M M's.
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I got Raisinets, but I didn't open them because I'm thin and the flattest.
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Diet Coke I'd ever had in my life with a paper straw. It was disgusting. Like, that's what you get when you go to the movies in New York City.
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Yeah. I didn't have a soda.
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I had a water.
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Because, again, like, I'm very thin and I'm very healthy. We did get pretzel bites, but I need to grape a pond if I'm having a pretzel bite. Not some old cheese.
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No, I love pretzel bites and I love them solo. Like, I don't need any additional accoutrement. Like, a good pretzel bite. I feel the same way about. A good French fry. Doesn't require a sauce, of course, but.
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Like, it would have been enhanced by a grapefawn.
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Yeah.
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And I didn't have that, so I can't say it was tense across the board. But then something so crazy happened last night due to our jaunt at the movies. I don't know if you realize the connection. You know, what happened. But I also bought Sour Patch watermelon for my husband because.
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Oh, my God. Yes. Oh, I didn't realize this was from the movies.
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Yes. He loves a. He loves a sour. You know, like a nerd's rope. And I'm generous wife. So I got him Sour Patch watermelon. He probably had, like, a handful or whatever. And then I brought home, like, the big things that we didn't really eat. Like, my raisin nuts, whatever. And then yesterday, my closet.
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That's kind of crazy to, like, bring home uneaten.
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Well, my raisin nuts weren't open. My raisin nuts weren't open.
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No, I know. I just feel like, still, I would have left them there.
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Like, I left, like, the things that I ate. Like, bunch of crunch, Pretzel bites, popcorn. But, like, my raisin nuts I never opened, so, like, they stayed in my bag.
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And I know. I just think that's crazy. The watermelon, it's kind of like snacks from an airplane. Like, you don't take them off the airplane.
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Well, I brought the watermelon for my husband because I was like, maybe in the car he'll want to see. Like, I was just trying to be sweet.
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No, and it's nice because, like, movie snacks are so expensive. Like, I applaud you for being so economical. Very turdy of you. But even turny. Like, I leave them there, so they're.
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In my movie theater bag. Yesterday we were, you know, playing whatever. My movie theater bag was, like, in my closet. My closet door was shut all day. And then in the afternoon, we're like, where's Bruno? Where the is Bruno? Because we were, like, in the living room, like, having snacks. That's usually when he'll, like, sniff us out and try and, like, get the boys cheese strings. And Zach, like, went to go look at him, and he was in my closet having eaten the whole bag of Sour Patch watermelons.
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And when Zach found him, was he, like, splayed out or. He was fine.
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He was looking for. He was trying and to raise a nest, which thing.
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That's odd.
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He didn't get into Raisinets because that's chocolate and raisins, which is grapes.
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Oh, true.
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So he ate almost 8 ounces.
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Double homicide.
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He ate almost 8 ounces of sour Patch watermelon, which is like, oh, my. So much even for a human. Adult, large person. So I was like, what do I do? I called the Animal Poison Control ASPCA hotline.
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Mm.
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Shout out. Aspca, One of our sponsors.
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That hotline is amazing because I was.
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Like, do I take him to the hospital? Like, does he have a stomach pump again? Like, he's so. He's. He does this, like, once a year. It's so great.
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He's self sack sabotaging.
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He really does. So they were able to help me identify the fact that he didn't have anything deadly in them, but, like, could have caused, like, serious pancreatitis. Blah, blah, blah. So they were like, either induce vomiting or bring him into the hospital and they'll induce vomiting. I was like, well, it would be nice to stay home. I'm a homebot.
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Right. No, of course. Lazy girls route.
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I'd rather you do it in the house.
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Oh, honey, if you're gonna smoke crack, I'd rather you do it in the house.
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So the way to get dad a dog to induce vomiting. Which, by the way, if you ever have to do it, like, call the hotline because they'll tell the right amount for the dog. But it was a couple teaspoons of hydrogen perox. And then I was like, how do I get him to eat hydrogen? I was gonna say she was like, well, you could put it with some peanut butter if he's food motivated. I was like, food motivated is why we're here.
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Like, I kind of love that phrase, food motivated. I would say I too, am food motivated.
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His middle name is food motivated. Like, yeah, that's why I'm calling you. Because he is motivated by food. I can't leave my purse on the ground.
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That's so funny.
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So I made him a lovely tincture of hydrogen peroxide and peanut butter. My boy. Gulp the whole thing down. And then we were in the backyard, like, playing and watching him. And like, within two minutes, he threw up everything.
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Good.
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Crushed it. Bruno is back at 100.
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One thing about Bruno is he is going to eat something really bad for him and he's gonna live through it. Like the fact that Bruno, the last, like, Hanukkah I spent at your house, got into, like, a five pound bag of dark chocolate. Literally a toxic. Toxic.
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Claudia. Worst what's really toxic for dogs is xylitol, which is fake sugar that they put in sugar free candies. The watermelons were not sugar free. But those chocolates, chocolates, they were sugar free. They had not. They had chocolate, two toxins, Cacao, xylitol. And he went to the hospital for that one. But then he came back, right?
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He's completely fine.
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He's like, mom, I'm hungry. Can have a snack.
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He's literally like a dog with nine lives.
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Yeah, he's one crazy motherfucker. I'll say that.
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He's so happy that he's saying that he's fine. And I knew he would be. Like, when you texted, like, Bruno, I was like, but I don't know. I'm not reading the text. Like, I just know he's fine.
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Yeah. Like, Zach was, like, came out, like, panicking. I'm like, first of all, I'm not a panicker, really. So I'm like, it's okay. Let's call the hotline. We'll find out. We'll take him if we have to, but maybe we don't have to. Like, maybe he'll just have a bad stomachache and, like, make some big shits. Bruno. Big shits. But we were able to get it done. So I want to shout out to the ASPA animal For sure Hotline. Like, they were actually way more helpful than ChatGPT. Once again, I was going to ask.
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If you used chat.
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First thing I did, I said, let me ask chat. And they were like, does the candy have xylitol? I was like, no. They were like, still means it could be bad. Call your local hospital.
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But like, wouldn't you chat? No. If sour patches xylitol, like, right.
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And wouldn't you know there was something, another ingredient that aspc, they're doing research on this ingredient and they think it might be similar to grapes. So they were like, you should get it out of him.
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Right.
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But they knew more than chat on the latest research.
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Well, that's because Chad is stuck in 2012.
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Because Chad is an idiot.
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Yeah.
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I'm telling you, Chad, like fell on its head in the last few weeks.
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Chat fell off as the kids would say, flop era.
A
So Bruno's okay, even though he's not here today. I'm not like hiding anything. I don't know where he is. Probably in my closet.
B
Literally in the pantry.
A
Where's Bruto?
B
He's fine. He always is fine.
A
I know. Even when Zach was like looking for him, I'm like, oh, he probably. The kids are probably just being loud. Thank God Zach found him. Oh, my God.
B
Oh, my God. That's so Bruto. So for TV recap, we'll do Love Thy Nader. Like in its official recap at the end of the show, we have dillied and dallied quite a bit.
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Have we? Yeah, it's okay. The stories are light. Fair but good. I'm excited. Okay, so now without further I do that, do that do about Bruta, do that do. Here are the fast side stories that you do need to know.
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Start your day off swirly with some eggs.
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A
Thank you, Claudia. Also, I was just curious. Chris Evans played Lightyear in Lightyear. That's a fly.
B
Yeah. My Chris is confused. That's classic me.
A
But that movie was such a flop, it star studded. Never heard of it. Interesting.
B
Yeah.
A
Our first story. A little more TV news from the weekend football season is back. Taylor Swift stealthily attended the Chiefs game with an entrance that's sparking wild fan theories.
B
Yes, it is. I saw people saying she's pregnant, she got a radical haircut, maybe blue Chella is back, but I actually think it's none of those.
A
So Taylor was missing from the game yesterday, but then videos went around of someone walking into the stadium like behind a big screen, you know, in the usual path that the Lord walks and you know it goes. It's safe to assume that with Taylor was walking behind the screen. She didn't want to be scene and then she.
B
It's her usual walk like from the door to the elevator to get up to her suite.
A
And then she wasn't seen at the game, was she?
B
No, I saw like a gif on Twitter, but it could have been an old one. People, like, are always tricking me on Twitter and people are almost 100 sure that it's her because, like you can see peripherally a security guard who looks like her usual guy. I think they spotted her mom and she's usually at every home game. So.
A
Yeah, so it's. It's safe to say that she was like at the game and if someone was hiding behind a screen as they walked in, like, it would have been her. So now the question is why people think hair change people. I maybe plastic surgery, but I think she would just like stay home, not go. Yeah.
B
And then the other theory that I had thought initially was like, safety. Taylor's. Yeah, Like, Taylor's always, if you watch her documentary, like her security guards, her stalkers, like, she has so much security and that's really like her dad's like, big thing, like the armed vehicles, everything is armed. And I feel like with the events of last week, just like being a public figure of her level, why wouldn't you take extra precautions? And then I saw also, like the web. Somebody found a website that sells what looks to be the exact same screen and it's bulletproof.
A
Got it. So do you think this is going to be occurring more often for her now or it's just like something for the day, just given the events of the week. And she's probably just feeling.
B
Maybe she was just like having anxiety, you know, like.
A
Yeah.
B
And this is what she had to do to go.
A
That's so crazy, I do think.
B
But is there not a way that she could get to her suite without going through a public hallway?
A
I don't know. Can't they clear the hallway?
B
Right.
A
Yeah, like, clear the hallway.
B
Maybe this was like a last minute thing.
A
Maybe on her way she can call for a clear. Last season she was a girlfriend. I'll have to walk wherever all the girlfriends walk, but fiance. Clear the hallway.
B
I feel like if you're a public figure, like, especially at her level, like the Charlie Kirk thing definitely, like makes you nervous more so than usual. Like, safety is always a thing for Taylor. She talks about it all and for any.
A
For anyone, of course.
B
And so I feel like everyone's just like, particularly on edge. Tensions are very high in the country.
A
Yeah.
B
And it's like. Yeah, she's right there. Like with like, I don't know. I. We only see her POV, but I'm sure her POV, there's probably, like, 100 people standing there.
A
Yeah. So. Yeah, do what you got.
B
I don't think she's pregnant.
A
No, I don't either. You know, I'm always on watch because we literally saw her a month. Like, she's. It wouldn't be something where she has to hide behind the screen.
B
Yeah, right. But you're right. They could just clear the hallway.
A
They could clear the hallway. She could have, like, stayed home if she was feeling, like, particularly anxious. I don't know. Or it could be a hair transformation for life of a showgirl coming out.
B
Maybe orange hair, right?
A
Oh, my God. Imagine and pregnant.
B
Imagine redhead, Taylor and pregnant. She's literally trying to be you.
A
She's me and Shannon.
B
Shannon Shan.
A
Shadow. Baby.
B
Shannon had her baby. Baby Daisy. Nine pounds, one ounce. That's my queen right there.
A
Queen Elish Queen.
B
She'll tell her whole birth story, but it's really crazy. I mean, every birth story is crazy.
A
That's what I'm saying. Even if it's like. Even if it actually stands. Textbook. That's crazy that it was textbook, right?
B
How. How amazing, how rare. She's doing great. I talk to her, like, almost every day because she, like, five times a day because she's breastfeeding. And so, like, I'm trying to impart as much. And it got me thinking she was asking me questions, and it's crazy, like, how little you know when you start. Like, she's not asking anything. I didn't ask either. Like, you just don't know. And I feel like now such an expert. Right? I'm like, I need to have another baby. Like. Like, if I had a baby right now. Oh, my God. I slay.
A
No, it's very. It's very enjoyable. Your subsequent children, because you really, like, you can enjoy. You're not stressed.
B
You feel confident.
A
Yeah, it's. It's. It's a nice feeling.
B
Yeah, that is.
A
There's nothing like the first of where you just get to be solely focused on them. Everything comes true. You know what I mean? Like, you'll never again. Yeah. Have that where it's like, you don't have to run out of. Out of the house, run out of bed, get dressed. Like, it's just you and Fu. And you're sad.
B
The Chiefs lost, so the game that Taylor went to was like, the super bowl rematch. Eagles versus Chiefs. They lost, which was, like, crazy. But they did lose the super bowl to them, so technically they're a better team. But they're two, and, oh, there's been two games, and they've lost both of them.
A
I feel like the Chiefs always have a slow start to the season. Now, I said that last night with, like, your comrades, with the people I was with, and they were like, that's not true. But it's just like. It's a feeling.
B
Well, I feel like they want this big. At least for Travis. He wants this big year. Right. I think he wants to retire, but he wants to win one more Super Bowl. So you don't just get that. You have to work hard for it.
A
I saw him catch a ball, and I saw him run and move that ass like.
B
Which is better than last.
A
Which is better than last season. Butterfingers.
B
Like butter fingers.
A
He was doing his part, so that training has paid off. So I just want to give, like, shout out because he worked really hard in the off season, off season. Sweating down here in Florida.
B
Yeah.
A
And he caught the ball, which.
B
It's kind of like the whole point. It's crazy how many times they don't catch the ball. Not him. Just, like, players in general. It's like, well, why'd you get picked?
A
I still think the Chiefs can have a strong season. I do always get the impression that they, like, have a slow start and then they come together. They're kind of like Secretariat in that way.
B
Yeah. Kind of coming from the back.
A
Yeah. Like the greatest. But they start out, you know, they let everyone think. They're thinking.
B
I just think, like, they're going to have this big moment. I think maybe Taylor's going to do the Super Bowl. Like, you don't get that without a bit of a struggle. And I think if you really want to be the best version of yourself as a team, it can come easy. So I'm actually. I'm glad.
A
And you need to learn from the mistakes now. You can't be making mistakes in the playoffs. You can make.
B
Yeah.
A
This wasn't even, like. I know. I know it counts towards their score, but it wasn't even in their same conference.
B
It's just like, it's. It's kind of irrelevant.
A
Yeah, I agree. Like, there's plenty time. But you know who did win yesterday? The Cowboys.
B
Who? They play.
A
They played the Giants. Olivia's family is a giant family. We're a Cowboys family. So we watched together. The kids were cheering. It was, like, so cute. They were really. That is feeling like rivals. And the Cowboys, for you.
B
I'm happy for Zach because he doesn't really, like, get a win a lot Sort of thing. I just. As far as I know, and I haven't really caught up on this football season. I'm gonna get involved soon. It's just like. It just started. Like, I have a baby, but, like, the Giants, like, suck, right? Usually they still succeed.
A
When the game started, everyone's like, this is.
B
Oh, wait, Sierra is a giant.
A
Russell Wilson is a quarterback for the Giants. Yeah.
B
Oh, he's amazing. Was he good?
A
I don't know. Yeah, they went into.
B
Oh, he's a quarterback, Russell.
A
They went into overtime. But I. From what I heard, I think it was an ugly game. Like, they weren't playing beautiful ball.
B
It's the beginning of the season. Everybody's just kind of, like, you know.
A
Around, and they were dropping a lot of balls. Like, I'm shocked the Cowboys won because, like, every time I looked at the tv, they were dropping them all.
B
And at what point do we stop calling the Cowboys America's Team?
A
Well, there's a new documentary about the Cowboys on Netflix. Oh, I'm gonna watch it. It's about, like, Jerry Jones. It's called America's Team, and I think it's a lot about their history. And I need to understand, like, what. Really? Not just Zach, like, telling me they're America's team.
B
He's biased.
A
I need to understand, like, the history, and then I'll let you know if they're still worthy of the title.
B
Okay. I like that. Okay. I. I do feel like their usage of America's Team was expiring, but the DCC gave them, like, an extension.
A
Who would you call America's Team if.
B
Not them right now? Like, the Chiefs. I agree, first of all, because they're, like, in. They're Middle America. Like, that's. Or no, they're the Midwest, Right. What is. No, they're the Midwest. Midwest. Mimo country. This is my country. Yeah, they're, like, very all American. Of course, like, having the quarterback of the pop star is very Americana. Yeah, I would say.
A
But if Travis retires this year, then they're not. So it's. It's kind of.
B
It depends if they're still really good. Patrick is, like, you know, all American kid.
A
Been, like, the dynasty. But I guess, like, two years ago, the Patriots were Patriots, and they're the Patriots and the Cowboys.
B
And I can hear, like, the. Our, like, radical Eagles fan will be. The Eagles are America's team.
A
And the thing down.
B
You might be if you didn't act the way that you did when you won and lost, like, burning down cities. That's not what I see for, like, America's team.
A
You know, I also want to say this may be, like, very rudimentary, but I do think America's team has to have, like, red and. Or blue in their colors.
B
Agree. Not 100%. Yeah. Like, they have green and white and, like, yes, technically we're red, white, but it's really red and blue.
A
I said red and or blue.
B
Yeah, I agree. The Patriots were red and blue. That's why they stayed America's team for so long. And yes, I completely agree.
A
One's arguing that the Minnesota Vikings should be America's team. Purple.
B
Purple. Yeah. Yeah. 100%.
A
That's why. Seriously, Eagles, like, you're not even in this conversation. It's. It's. It's.
B
Sorry.
A
You're a great team. You're actually the best team. It's not that great.
B
You might win again. That's amazing. Talent wise, in terms of branding, like, you need, actually.
A
But they're the Eagles. Like, the ball.
B
Yeah, I know. And it doesn't even, like, register because they're green.
A
Yeah. You've got to change your colors if you want the title. But eagle is a strong symbol of America.
B
It is. And I love your song Spritz. Fly, Eagles, fly on the road to victory Fly, Eagles, fly on the road to victory. Is that how it ends? Like, you guys are crazy. I love it. Like, you have the potential to be America's team. Not with the green. Sorry. And I'm sorry. They play at Lincoln Field. Like, what's more American than Abe Lincoln?
A
Yeah. They need to refine, though, the brand book.
B
Yeah, Agreed.
A
But they have a shot. Sure.
B
Yeah.
A
Are you ready for our next story? Some seriously surprising breakup news. Kelsey Ballerini and Chase.
B
Oh, my God. I'm shocked.
A
Break up after nearly three years of dating. So Kelsey Ballerini and Chase Stokes, who have seemed like the happiest couple in Hollywood for three years, have reportedly split after three years of dating. And just two days after, he wrote her a loving birthday post. So.
B
And that she posted a carousel of her own birthday that he commented on. So I was like, what happened? I follow them both. I saw them birth both their birthday content, and I actually remember thinking, I'm like, wow, they're so solid. Like, it's so crazy.
A
To me, they seem like this was.
B
Like, a rebound in some ways, but it really was, like, such a real relationship.
A
They seem like the sort of couple that's never had a fight.
B
Like, which is not a good sign. No.
A
But like other couples, I feel like they have, like, long standing issues that eventually break them.
B
Yep.
A
You know, and like, when they break up, it's because, like, this was just too insurmountable. You're this. I'm that. These two just seem like they've been genuinely happy for three years. I don't think something happened where, like, someone cheated on someone and that's why two days later they're broken up. It just seems like their issues got the best of them. Right. Where you just, like, throw in the towel. But, like, what issues? Not that I would even know, but I just. Just feel like they're so happy.
B
I don't know, because the timeline of it all makes me think that something did happen.
A
Something, like, drastic.
B
Right. How do you go from carousels and emojis to literally two days confirming her rep confirmed to People magazine?
A
I genuinely. I'm baffled. I don't know.
B
I don't have a theory here. Yeah.
A
No.
B
I don't even know what they could really fight about.
A
No, that's what I'm saying.
B
It was also good. So healthy. Like, she loved Madeline Klein. Like, it was all perfect.
A
No, they were always supporting each other. They're two people who work in, like, different industries on, like, different sides of the country.
B
Making it work.
A
But, like, it's scheduling. What? Like, he's got. He's learning all the words. Her song. She's putting out three albums a year and he knows everywhere. Like, yeah, they got this on lock.
B
I'm shocked.
A
I. Me too.
B
I can't even theorize. I don't have any, like, tea. I know nothing.
A
Me too. The good news is, as she'll spill.
B
Roll down that welcome mat. Roll it down.
A
She'll still. Through her. We'll be get, like, signs through her music if it was like, cheating or just, like, fell out of love or whatever. Or maybe she'll just, like, do an interview and tell us again.
B
Right. Right.
A
But I'm sad. But I am sad if this is.
B
Sort of just like a breakup, nothing crazy. I do think we'll find out, like, through the music, subliminally, like, it won't be this tell all. Because I only think you really do that when somebody, like, really you up.
A
But Morgan, not Wallen, didn't like, it.
B
Wasn'T Morgan, not Wallen.
A
It wasn't nasty Morgan Evans.
B
No, I think it was. Why, like, financially, I think that's, like, when she was going through the divorce and like, he had such a chip on his shoulder about her success, but was more than happy to, like, take half of it in the divorce, I think that really sent her over the edge.
A
I think he took. Didn't it come out? He took half of the profits of the house.
B
Of the house. Well. And half of her fortune.
A
I'm not sure about that. Yeah, it sounds like that in the podcast.
B
But she also talked about, on the podcast about how they had had a. A prenup.
A
The impression I was left with was that he got half of the profits of the house that she paid for.
B
I think he did, yeah. Amongst other halves. Like, I believe that song is about the house.
A
Well, they really were just, like, two people who were, like, growing on different tracks. Like, he was ready to settle down, and she was just getting started.
B
I.
A
It wasn't totally terrible. No one. No, like, was it?
B
No, it wasn't cheating. Right. Abuse. Agreed.
A
It's kind of just like a cla. Like a heartbreaking classic tale where, like, falling out of love and growing apart and that's, like, so painful, especially in.
B
Fame, when, like, you're in the same industry and, like, one person's career is taking off, it's just a different pace than the others. And I think it creates, like, a lot of resentment.
A
So I'm just saying, like, she was able to share with us when even it wasn't like, I'm gonna get you.
B
Right, right, right.
A
It was just sad. And that album was sad.
B
It was.
A
Yeah.
B
I'm shocked. Although I do think, like, her rise, like, I've. I've known and listened to Kelsey Ballerini long before all these other did. Right. Because she's, like, a real country queen. But I do think, like, her divorce and then the album after that and then her subsequent relationship after that, like, really helped rise her star. So much so where she's, like, a pop star now. Right. Like, she does bigger venues and her music is played on pop radio, and so I would love to see who she dates next. I think it's, like, a great tool for her star.
A
Oh, for sure. And for him. He's so eligible. Like, we'll put him in that roster. You know Kai Gerber.
B
Right, Right. Oh, he'll throw him in there.
A
Yeah. He'll go there. She'll go there.
B
I don't think she will or won't. Me neither.
A
So I'm sad.
B
I'm sad, but I'm more so shocked. They were so solid. So solid and, like, real. Like, a real testament. Because I think a lot of people thought this was, like, a rebound relationship. Right. It was, like, right after her divorce, but they were so serious.
A
Yeah.
B
And so supportive.
A
It was really like each other.
B
Whenever we talk about celebrities, like they couldn't make their schedules workable, it's like if you wanted to, you would make it work. Because she's a touring artist, he films this huge show in the middle of South Carolina. Like he has to be there. So the fact that they were able to make it work. Anyone can.
A
I agree and I'll stay tuned for more.
B
Yeah.
A
Our next story is is actually could be nominated for Toasty Lions. It's some big news for Mormon Wives star Jen Affleck. She is in a new Dunkin Donuts commercial with Ben Affleck.
B
Oh wow. Oh wow.
A
Ben Affleck may be a done king, but a family member is about to dethrone him him. Duncan's latest commercial features a new Affleck Secret lives of Mormon Wives star Jen Affleck. The minute long spot.
B
I have to watch it. I haven't even seen it. Give me one second.
A
Yep, go ahead.
B
That's genius by the way. You know what?
A
You could put it your phone. We could all listen. I'm going to free commercial. They need the the advertising.
B
No, this is really smart. I love when people do things that aren't dumb. You know I have.
A
Yeah. In addition to the fact like this is such a sleigh for her. Everyone who made fun of her for saying that they're related.
B
It was weird, but it wasn't her fault. Her weird ass husband lied to her and made it up and then claimed.
A
He didn't or the family did. But first of all, I do think they're related. And second of all, slay.
B
Okay, here we go. Play E News.
A
They're not gonna make you watch an ad.
B
Oh, they did. I watched it on mute for you guys. Okay, ready for Affleck Affleck. Expecting my cousin Ben? Nah. When Duncan has something packed with amazing value, they bring me in Jen Affleck, the Value Affleck. That's funny. Value Affleck. Yep. Twice the personality, half the price. I'm a steal. Just like Duncan's six dollar meal deal. A coffee, bacon, egg and cheese and hash Browns brush. $6? That's value. You know what's not value, Ben? Why overpay for something that nobody wants? He's so dated. I'm younger, hotter. Can you believe Ben's only 53? And it's not like a young 53, it's like a weathered 53. Rude. That was bad. But not as bad as those grays.
A
A totally average 53 right down to 53.
B
Fairway okay. The commercial itself, like, could use some work. The copy and the whole vibe is not my favorite. Conceptually hysterical.
A
Conceptually toasty Lions.
B
Like, only no, because, like, that was a bad commercial. Like, like, it's not funny. Yeah, they went like, they were almost there.
A
They thought they crushed it with the idea, but they didn't get the right.
B
It wasn't enough to get you across the finish line.
A
But this is so awesome for her because she's really been the butt of the joke for. I guess it's only been like a year since that show came out, which is so crazy.
B
No, but still, like, it was really embarrassing.
A
Yeah. And now she's on Dancing with the Stars. And now she's in a Dunkin Donuts commercial with Ben Affleck himself. Parchy.
B
Dancing with the Stars starts tomorrow. I couldn't be more excited. And I'm literally committing my platform to making sure Gleb Sam Chedko goes home first. And you know who his partner is.
A
Who?
B
Perfect. I want her to go home first, too. Eladia. Like, perfect for each other. Two con men.
A
Great. I actually meant to pull up this story since we're talking about Dancing with the Stars. I'll share it now that they have an official podcast now for the new season.
B
Hosted by Joey.
A
Hosted by Joey, who was the bachelor and season winner, and he won 33 winner. So now he'll be hosting a podcast. I'm sure, like, people who come off the show will go on the podcast. Behind the scenes scene stuff. And so for those of you who watch Dancing with the Stars who just want, like, more Dwittis, now you have a podcast that you can listen.
B
There's actually a lot of people who.
A
Want more Divitus that you can listen to when you're done listening to the toast.
B
Yeah, we'll give you the real. I'm so excited. Like, my journey starts tomorrow. Literally. Me and Ben were planning, like, we wanted to have dinner with his parents one night this week. He's like, how's Tuesday? And I was like, is that the 16th? He was like, yeah. I'm like, no can do. I got. I got a. An appointment with my cable box. Okay.
A
Dancing with the Stars, baby.
B
Especially with the Gleb of it all, who I hate, hate. And up until this point, all I really knew about Gleb was like, he was the partner Lisa Vanderpump had when she fake fainted because she wanted to be off the show. And I thought that was funny. Now what I know about him, like, an. He should Be fired.
A
I just want to say all these Dwittis guys who, like, end up in relationships with their stars, like, kind of suck. Like, Artem Artem kind of suck.
B
I agree. But we'll get into why I hate Gleb Savchenko in the Love Thy Nader recaps. If you don't know why I just randomly hate this guy, it's because he's the devil. And what he did to my Brooksie. I love Brooks what he did to.
A
My Brooksie, and I don't even know what he did, but I know it's downright disgusting.
B
I have a pretty good idea. We'll talk about it.
A
We'll talk about it. Are you ready for our fourth story?
B
Oh, wait. Just quickly back to Jenna. Oh, we're only on the fourth story. Quickly back to Jen Affleck. Love this. So happy for her. And it really got me thinking. When I was watching Love Thy Nator, she went to that, like, event where all the Hulu shows were at, like. Like, who's really crushing the reality game? I feel like everybody has their moment for Netflix. They were crushing those dating shows for a while, but now, like, all their reality show content is so premium, and they really launch huge stars. Like, these Mormon girls I love. And when I was watching Love Thy Nader, I was like, I love these girls. It's so cool to see, like, young, hot, fabulous, skinny people. But, like, I really can't relate to them. And I really do relate more to the Mormon wives because they're doing it all right. Like, balancing motherhood and pumping while being celebrities. And I just love them. I love them. I think Hulu's crushing it.
A
Yeah. And I feel like, just, like, we need to hold people accountable when they do a bad job at their job. Like, the person branded HBO Max to Max and back to Max and then back again. Like, whoever got hired as, like, head of Unscripted tv, it's time for a bonus for them.
B
Promotion.
A
Well, no, keep them in the job because they're doing a great job.
B
But, yes, stay where you are.
A
Give them more money and tell them they're doing a good job.
B
Right. Perhaps a pat on the back.
A
Yeah. If they don't already know. Like, like, you're doing amazing, sweetie. Thank you.
B
You're doing amazing. We love what you're putting out. Put out more.
A
I love your shows.
B
Hulu L title. No, it's true, But I saw Chloe at the Hulu event. I'm like, oh, yeah, they really have it all.
A
Yeah, yeah.
B
Crushing.
A
Are you ready for our fourth story. It's actually a story for you and I and you and I alone that a lot of people sent me this weekend. But will our nets end ex Alessandra Braun is dating Emily Ratajkowski's ex husband Sebastian Bear McClard. So we finally have a face to the a name to the face and a name to the kind eyes that we spotted at Round Swamp Farm in the Hamptons. And it's.
B
And of course she has an interesting background.
A
Will Arnett's ex girlfriend, Alessandra Braun is the one who was dating Sebastian Bear McLard. They were.
B
Now is that the woman he had a baby with that they were talking about on the documentary?
A
They have a baby together.
B
Got it.
A
Well, I don't know if it's a baby anymore but they have a child together.
B
At one point the child was a baby.
A
Yes. They welcomed a baby. And then she's previously married. Her wedding was in vogue when she got married. I think it was like 10 years ago. They have since split and she's just like a woman about town and she is who I saw and she does have kind eyes.
B
Can I ask you a question?
A
Sure. I think.
B
Do you think Will Arnett is hot?
A
Yes. And his personality makes him handsome too. But a lot of those guys have like good personalities but it doesn't affect their looks. And I feel like he's someone who's like really just enhanced by being funny because you wouldn't expect him to be funny. Maybe because he's like tall.
B
Yeah, I like, I think Will Arnett is extremely good looking and I agree.
A
That I don't think that's controversial. I think he's like meant to be good looking. You know, I think when he was cast as Job he' like the handsome older brother, you know.
B
Right, right. But you're right. Like he's so funny that it really makes him hotter than he probably is.
A
Yeah, we've got funny goggles on.
B
But he doesn't like go like in movies and play like heartthrob. So it's like are you hot? But you are.
A
Cuz he's like silly and goofy and.
B
Also like what is Will Arnett in? Or I see development obviously Job. Oh, Blades of Glory. Which is I don't really watch but obviously is immensely popular. But it's. And he does a lot of, he does a lot of voice acting.
A
He's a very much an actor.
B
He's in. Yes. Obviously Smartless made. I think Smartless made him more money than his acting career ever did.
A
Yeah, yeah. But like, he's very employed, but he.
B
Does, like, mostly exclusively voice work. He's BoJack Horseman, which is really popular. He's in Chippendale, Tiny Tina's Wonderland, like, a lot. All voice work. I'm just saying.
A
What are those things?
B
Oh, you don't know them. Lego Movie.
A
No, we haven't.
B
He plays Batman in a Lego short movie, Lego Movie 2. He makes a lot of voice money.
A
Yeah, he has a very iconic voice.
B
Oh, Unbreakable. Kimmy Schmidt, too.
A
Who is he?
B
Oh, he does the voice of Kitty. Again, just voice work.
A
No, he has a great voice. He does.
B
Maybe that's why his podcast is so successful. Oh, of course. He's 30 Rock, too. Bait.
A
Yeah, but still, he's not 30 Rock.
B
No. Like, what is he, the Office? He has, like, a couple of episodes.
A
Just like a random actor.
B
Jackie. His IMDb never ends good.
A
He's a hustler.
B
He's in the iconic Kristen Bell rom com. Oh, Jackie. Parks and Rec. Which.
A
Saying this about stuff?
B
No, because I'm looking for, like, that's.
A
Gonna be the thing.
B
Parks and Rec. Oh, but he only did one episode. I have no idea. Like. Like, what is. People are probably screaming at the episode.
A
What's BoJack Horseman?
B
It's a Netflix animated series that's really popular.
A
I feel like he's in some, like, movies. Will Arnett.
B
I don't know. I'm telling you, he's just like a working actor. Willing Grace, one episode. He's just been in everything. Once he's in Sex in the City, Blades of Glory, I think is probably, like, up there. Yeah.
A
He's in just, like, sill stuff, and I guess it all amounts semi pro, you know. What's that? Peanuts make a bag.
B
Yeah. And then that bag gets you a podcast that you don't need the peanuts for anymore.
A
Peanuts make a bag full happy for McLard. And he was married to Amy Poehler. Well, of course, I think that was big for him.
B
I think it was good for her too. They. They ended up having two children.
A
Yeah. And now. And then he was with Alessandra, who is now with. With Sebastian. So this is like another circle.
B
Yeah. Yeah. Like, different than the young Hollywood one, but, like, similar.
A
Yeah. Anyways, glad to have put a name to it and happy to see they're still going strong.
B
And I'm also glad to be done with the stories because I have to talk about Love thy Nader.
A
Let's do it.
B
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A
I sponsored the show at one point they did.
B
And that's how I saw the first episode. I was like, oh, it's gonna be good, right? And then the whole season came out last week and oh my God, it was so good.
A
It's so good. And each episode is better than the next. I would say in like meteor and tackling like different subjects. I can't remember what the last time episode was that we watched, but the Ozempic episode which I had seen written up and I feel like it was actually much more serious than the headlines had. It said that like Brooks is on Zempic and her sisters are worried she's like abusing the drug. So I was like, oh, they're just jealous. No, she's seriously was unwell in that episode because she's shooting the COVID of Maxim. She's literally not eating, she's passing out in Zumba. She's passing out in the bathtub and they're showing us everything. Like, I think that's what's most surprising about the show is that they're really not hypnotic happening. She literally shoots herself the day of her Maxim shoot with those. Like everyone else would either pretend they're not on it, they would hide from the cameras if they're like sick in the tub. And like we would have no idea what's going on. But the trans even the scenes, like.
B
You can tell in a reality show, like they all got dressed up to go sit and talk, right? I don't feel like that way on the show. I feel like they're cameramen just like live in that apartment and they just pick up whenever the girls are together. Like, it feels. They're obviously scenes that feel really staged. Like, a lot of the modeling stuff, like with the Ford Modeling Agency feels so fake. But for the most part, the show does not feel staged or fake, which I really appreciate. And, yes, they go there.
A
They really do go there. And I. Brooks is, like. Talks about how she feels this pressure to be thin. I didn't realize that she had lost 30 pounds over the last few years, and that when she came up as a model, she was 30. She was told heavier, and she was doing Sports Illustrated, which is like a very, like, sexy. And, like, you know, she had that look, but now she wants to do high fashion. And she was told, like, lose 30 pounds, get a nose job, do all this stuff. And she's like, and I do it all. And she says, like, the industry has such toxic beauty standards. And I feel like whenever someone says that, the next thing they say is like, and I'm gonna change it. And.
B
Right. And then they don't, and it affects their career. That's the sad truth.
A
Yeah. Or it's just, like, an uphill battle, and she's just like, the industry has toxic beauty standards, and I'm gonna fit into those beauty standards because these are my years where I can kill it and I can have a cheeseburger in 10 years. Like.
B
Like, and these are my goals. And so she has these, like, benchmark goals that she wants to achieve, and she's really doing it.
A
And even though it's obviously, like, not healthy, it's honest and it's true. And she says, like, when every agent has a vial of Ozempic to give to a girl, like, oh, so crazy. Like, the fact that she's saying that everyone is on these drugs, and I believe her. And any celebrity who's, like, always, like, you know, not even someone who was seriously overweight who then lost weight, and they always, you know, get questions and they share. But a lot of celebrities in the last few years have lost. Lost five to ten pounds are skinnier. Katy Perry are skinnier than ever before.
B
Katy Perry is a good example. She's always been thin. She's never really been, like, a celebrity who's been overweight. And you wouldn't think 10 or 15 pounds to lose, but she's not exactly. She's never been this skinny. I. I completely agree. And I'm the Ozempic queen, and I. I love her approach to it. And again, it's not the healthiest thing, but I feel like the fact that she's not Lying to us, being like, no, you're right, I won't take it again. No, I will take it again. And it's just what I have to do. And you know what? I didn't even think about it.
A
It's like. And the thing is, I don't even feel like telling her, stop taking, like, take a little less, eat a little more. Yeah, you're. You're so thin and have a piece of grilled chicken. You're not. Okay. But, like, there's about. You could find balance. Yeah.
B
And then I was really. It made me think about her career because I, I haven't really sat back and thought recently, like, who's the IT model of the moment when. When it comes to like these big things, like the Kate Upton of the. Of our time. Time. And she's well on her way, if not already there, to being that. And I'm sorry, like, she's sick looking. But it made me feel so much.
A
Better in a good way. Sorry. Yeah, it's confused, all this conversation.
B
It made me feel really better to hear all the girls being like, you know, we all, like, take it at some points because, you know what, they're all so skinny and I'm like, oh, it must be genetics. Or it might just be like, they must work out endlessly. But Brooke saying she never works out. How is that possible?
A
Yeah, and she's like clowning on Grace and she's like, grace and works out. So she sometimes look stiff in these shoots.
B
Like, does she really not work out? That's so crazy.
A
I mean, it's really about. Most of it is what you eat if you want.
B
Yeah. No, the show was just so honest and, like, I'm sure people can nitpick. Like, she's being a bad. I don't give a.
A
People are going to say, like, it's a. She's a bad role model. It's very toxic. She literally says, I don't think I have an eating disorder because I don't eat.
B
No, she's so honest. And even if it's not saying the right thing, that's what makes the show really good.
A
She's not like, hiding from people. She's not making you think, like, oh, she lost these 330 pounds. And you know, just by sheer will and that you can't do it. So you're like, I just. I really appreciate the honesty and I'm genuinely shocked by it. And really, she's putting a spotlight on the rest of the industry because I think everyone is microdosing these drugs, taking Them for a big shoot, whatever it is. And we don't know that. And then you see people on the COVID of a magazine looking insane and just know like, they had a little help. That makes you feel better.
B
A thousand. I felt so much better when Sarah Jane was like, I took it too. I'm like, oh, good.
A
Yeah.
B
Sarah Jade is so skinny.
A
Yeah.
B
No, it's amazing. I feel like. And the show also does a really good job. It's really very sisterly. It is like when. When Grace and Jane was like, you know, I'm never talking to Brooks again. Like, I'm done with her. And then like, they had a conversation and she was fine. Like, that's so sisterly. And so. And I feel like my takeaway after the first two episodes was like, the show is really good. Brooks is clearly the star. Like, I don't really need the other sisters and I do you after now watching it in completion. Like, there's potential for the other sisters. Like, I do think that they add a lot to the show. But my big takeaway. And I feel like the show was so good for Brooks because when she was talking about how like, so many people thought Gleb was her fake boyfriend, like, she's literally talking about me.
A
We didn't even pick those stories because it was like this. It was fake. Yeah.
B
And I feel like she was well on her way and doing really well in the modeling industry, but her public perception wasn't amazing. And I feel like the show was so good for her because she is this amazing personality. And I actually think I understand her so much now. And I understand a lot of her. Her media shenanigans with Gleb and her relationship stuff. I understand it now because she's kind of this like 28 year old newbie. Right. She was married for so long and she met her man when she was 19. And like, I don't know, I feel like it. Whatever goal she set out to accomplish with the show, she did.
A
Yeah. And in For Better or for Worse, they're very unrefined. Like they don't have media training. Which sometimes, like, it is nice because we're getting to hear them authentically speak and not just like word salad. Us.
B
Yes.
A
But on the other hand, like, like it's a little messy when they're going on podcasts and like talking about things and just not really knowing like where that line is. And eventually they'll find it and then they won't share as much with us and we'll miss these days. But it does feel like early days of a reality show, which we don't get anymore because everyone is so, like, buttoned up and, like, nervous about everything that they're gonna say, and so they don't share that much. And it's really refreshing to see a show in 2025, like, feel like the old days, where it's like, we're letting it rip.
B
The test shoot, you were right. That outfit was insane. Like, and so I kind of. I. I kept going on these journeys with the girls because at first I'm like, sarah Jane is my favorite sister. Like, she was so right, by the way. She was so right. That outfit was terrible. And I do think she was really trying to help because it was bad. But she kept up that energy throughout the show, like, telling everyone, like, what they're doing wrong. And it just. It does come off condescending. It's so much so that by the end of the series, I'm like, I actually don't think she's coming from a good place. I think she likes to stunt on everyone. I think that, like. Like, she is the most successful with modeling because she works hard, but she has the look, right? She has that high fashion look. She has the eyebrows. Like, she's kind of the easiest to sell as a model because she's perfect looking and so. And she has that one particular look. I'm not surprised she booked the Max shoot. You know, she's got the eyebrows for it and the eyelashes and skin.
A
Yeah, she looks like someone, like, in a makeup out in the cheekbones and everything.
B
Yeah. So she's just really condescending. And I don't doubt that she works hard and knows a lot, but, like, like, she's just annoying me towards the end. I feel like she also. I mean, that Eliana thing was so crazy.
A
The way that she's, like, living in her love life is also annoying me. And. And it's funny because, like, if you just hear from her, you, like, would think, like, oh, all's well. Like, you know, you would just, like, think she's, like, fat. But then when you hear the other side of, like, things that she's doing, like bringing Eliana home to her hometown as just a friend, but kind of, like, using her to, like, like, stoke conversations with her family and, like, see.
B
How even though you don't even know if this girl is your girlfriend or just your friend, so why would you.
A
Even bring her home, right. And, like, subject her to, like, the disc. You wouldn't bring any boyfriend home who's, like, not your Boyfriend. Like, you wouldn't bring just a guy home. And then, like, of course people are going to make comments like, are you guys together? I just felt like she was doing it to, like, sort of antagonize her family into having a conversation that she's obviously wanted to have. But, like, don't use this poor girl and make her come to someone's huge family thing. And then. And Eliana was, like, such a trooper, and she's obviously, like, a very cool rel Blacks girl and, like, isn't really reading too much into all of this. But then to go to the bar and start, like, macking on your high school love.
B
And that. That didn't make air. So, like, Sarah Jane was like, oh, Eliana's. Go see me almost making Eliana look bad and shout out to Grace Ann for me.
A
Like, if we just heard Eliana's ghost me, like, oh, Eliana, she couldn't handle the. The big family dynamic. And then we see the other side of the coin where it's like, no, you literally left her alone in a. A bar in your hometown while you.
B
Were, like, flirting with someone else, macking on some guy.
A
Yeah.
B
So I felt like I kept having these, like, moments, whereas towards the end, I love Mary Beth and I. I want to shake Mary Beth.
A
Mary Holland.
B
Yeah, Mary Holland. Get off this show. Like, quitting your job was a bad idea. You're a startup. Sounds terrible. The people you're going to for advice. Honestly, I didn't even know what they were talking about. Fiat. Who? These girls keep popping up. I know she's Bill Gates's daughter, and so that obviously gives her, like, a lot of credit. So she has a podcast now on Unwell, and Kris Jenner went on it, and she's like this business leader. What is her business? Like, who is.
A
What kind of is you in.
B
Who is FIA in this world? I was just so confused. And that really was a painful scene where, like, they're giving her advice and you need six months of Runway. Okay, well, our dad isn't Bill Gates, so, like, help. You know, it was just. It was so stupid. I feel like. I feel like they all gave up something for this show and it was the right choice for them. Except for Mary Beth. Like, you have this Lord, and your sister's going on and talking about his Lordship and his vicomteship on the podcast. Like, no, no, I want you to move to la. This man loves you. He's taking your parents to Wimbledon. Like, he's a good guy. I really. I feel that Agreed.
A
And she's an amazing. She's such a classic. She'll be a fantastic lady.
B
Viscountus, I need you to give your all to this relationship. Like, I don't think that the show is going to yield as much for you as this relationship might. And I think of all the girls, like, she might have the least to gain from this show. So, like, seriously, go back to your job and work at a bank in la.
A
But it's, like, so funny how she literally goes into these meetings. Everyone's, like, on her ideas, or she's, like, talking to Grace and in the shower and she's like, what are you saying? And she's, like, so humble, so positive and, like, yeah, positive. And, like, doesn't get offended about any of it. And even when she did the toilet paper reel, which, by the way, I went to her Instagram because I wanted to watch it because, like, the fact that she wrote a whole script with Chat GPT and it was like, she's such a queen. She's like, give her all the brand deals.
B
How? What was the brand?
A
I don't know. I couldn't find the reel on her Instagram. It wasn't there. I went back to, like, last summer.
B
Do you think this was, like, a storyline?
A
No. Maybe she, like, removed it after, like, the 30 days. Like, or maybe. Maybe it. She never post. Maybe she didn't take the deal. I don't know. But I did look for it, so if I missed it, someone sent it to me because I wanted to support it. And, like, nobody really. Like, she was. She's working harder on that reel than, like, most people do when they just, like, put up a piece of content. And, like, if I'm a brand looking for influencers, like, I would hire her to do content. No.
B
And then Sarah Jane was being so condescending about the, like, that's when I really fell off Sarah Jane. Like, I was like, you know what? Maybe this is a pattern. Maybe you don't just know best about everything. Because I thought she was giving bad advice to. To Mary Beth. And, like, there's really no shame in working with the toilet paper. And she was like, you're gonna take it.
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree.
B
Everything comes so easy to Sarah Jane. And I think she benefits the most from being Brooks Nader's sister. Like, she saw the opportunity and took it. And she's also the youngest, which makes modeling even easier. And I don't know, I just think she's, like, condescending to her other sisters.
A
Yeah. And then also, like, when she made Brooks cry at dinner, like, for dating her friends. But I thought that scene was weird because. Because Mary Beth.
B
I felt like we were missing something.
A
No, Sarah Jane was being weird because she said, you guys look great. Let me take a photo. And then was like, Brooks, you take it because of the better lighting. And then Brooks sees something on her phone. And it just felt, like, very staged for Brooks to see that I wasn't following.
B
Like, I felt like I missed a piece.
A
No. So Brooks just saw something on Sarah Jane's phone to the effect that Sarah Jane's, like, texting, sexting one of Brooks's friends again, in addition to, like, Ellie Goulding and the friend at F1, Ellie Goulding. And she just, like, hooks up with all of Brooks's friends, which isn't just, like, a great way to move.
B
No, it's not. I was shocked to see Ellie Goulding on the show. Like, love that.
A
I love her. Oh, and Brooks dropping that. She has new music coming out. Can't wait.
B
Like, literally nobody cared except for you.
A
No, nobody.
B
It's all. It's not like, a drop. She's not Taylor Swift. Nobody cares.
A
We care as much as me. No, I'm sorry. We need. The world needs more elegant living music. Like, she makes hits for everybody.
B
I want to talk about two things. I want to talk about Gleb.
A
You're not getting up from the show. You're not leaving the studio.
B
No, I'm not getting up. I had to readjust. My ass is killing me.
A
Okay, okay, that's good. She's here to stay.
B
I want to talk about Gleb, and I want to talk about Jimmy Kimmel. Like, I don't know why. When I saw Jimmy Kimmel was a.
A
Sister in the credits. I can't forget to say this one more time. Please keep note of that. We have to talk about our sister.
B
Oh, yeah. Okay, wait. Okay. Three things. First, quickly, I want to talk about Jimmy Kimmel.
A
Okay. Okay. But don't forget. Don't let us forget to talk about our sister.
B
I understand. It's like abc. It's like this, you know, circle jerk of. Of corporate. It's like he helped probably get the show we'd to like, and then he sees the girls and gives them a hug at the upright. I don't know why. Like, him being a producer is the creepiest thing to me on the planet. Like, this show about little girls. You're like this old man. Like, ew. I don't know. It just grosses me out.
A
What are you Doing here?
B
Scram.
A
Like, what is the connection? And the connection, like, just has to be nevarious. Like, it.
B
I know. Casting couch. I just don't like it.
A
From the moment I saw a show produced by Jimmy Kimmel, I'm, like, yucky.
B
Yucky.
A
Not even because of him. Like, any personal feelings I have towards him, because I don't even know which Jimmy he is. Like, just, what are you doing producing this show? Like, there's girls gonna be in their bathing suits.
B
Yeah. No. And also, what do you know about this? You know nothing.
A
No, there was gonna be girls in their bathing suits.
B
A thousand percent. A thousand percent. 2. Our sister Margot and I. I. We've known that she's gonna be Anna for so long that, like, everyone's like, did you see? Are you freaking? I'm like, no, no. We knew. And I actually was shocked at how much she was in it and how she was, like, positioned as, like, the. This scary executive.
A
Like, she was, like, the head of the shoot. Like, which she is. But it's so crazy to see her little sister in that position. Like, that's sagy. Also, people were saying Margot was in love thy neighbor. I don't know why. I thought it was in an earlier episode. So when I didn't see her, I thought maybe I missed it. I thought it was just, like, so quick background. I thought it was maybe from Brooks's LaRouge shoot or something, and I just missed it. So then when they were like, they're doing Juicy Couture Swim, and, like, that's a brand that Margo works on. I was like, oh, okay. Like, this is it. And. And literally every three seconds, my sister's in the background of the show that I'm just, like, trying to watch on my own. That's a crazy feeling.
B
Satchi said she did not. She knew that the shoot was going to be filmed. She didn't know she was going to be miked. She said she would have done her hair, which I appreciate it's giving Chris Appleton, but she was texting us the day off. She's like, guys, they put a mic on me. I was like, girl, be careful. Even though, like, nobody cares about you. You're not, like, the. The sole focus. Like, who knows? And they literally did pick up, like, a lot of what she said. And she's, like, walking around me like, we're gonna do the orange one next. And at this point point, Ben had been watching with me, and he was dying. He was, like, quoting Margot, we're gonna do the orange one.
A
Next. No, it was so out of body to just be like, I'm not watching the show because Margot's on it. And like just to see my sister walking in the background and then like directing this shoot, like just. And she's also the little sister, but she's in like a big position of power. It's crazy.
B
I also wanted to ask Sachi, like how did that photo shoot do? Because like I don't feel like those pictures really move the needle. I didn't even know that Juicy made swim.
A
I also wanted to ask Sachi, like why did. Not that she was wrong for it at all. I should think she was great for it. But like what made them cast Grace and like of all the models, was it the Nader connection?
B
I imagine like they got this and I, by the way, I just want to say I know nothing. I haven't asked actually this. I imagine like they had to have a model right. For this photo shoot and they got the opportunity being like, hey, use this inexperienced model who you probably wouldn't book but. But the fact that you're launching swim is going to be on this big Hulu show. It's kind of a no brainer. Like sure, we could use any model. Let's use the one with the reality show.
A
But she does have like a great look first. I mean she's definitely like sexier than she has a sexier look. Like Sarah Jane's like very like high fashion. Like yeah, you know, cheekbones, skin, makeup, etc, Grace and like has that like va va voomness to her. So she is right for a SWIM campaign.
B
Yeah. I really couldn't deal with her storyline about modeling when it's clear and this was sort of like the underlying thing. And I think that's why everyone was getting so frustrated with her. What she wasn't saying is like she doesn't have like long term goals when it comes to modeling. It's sort of just like a means to an end so that she can like wait around for her man to propose and then she could go live in Palm Beach.
A
Yeah. And if that.
B
Which is fine.
A
Yeah, that is fine. But she also, it's like she's allowed to want to make a living in between now and then. So like. Of course, yeah.
B
But she does have this ship on her shoulder. Just like, like I think she sort of doesn't want her success to be predicated on being Brooks Nader sister. But like it is.
A
Yeah. Embracing.
B
She's like taking these like secret meetings in Ford in Florida. Well, they're taking Them because you're Brooks nar sister. Like you can't escape it. So you might as well embrace.
A
You should embrace. Like Sarah Jane really embraces it and I think she takes all the deals that Brooks doesn't want.
B
Yep.
A
And that it's like, hey, I'm frooks.
B
Yeah. And I think Mary Beth said that like a little shadily just being like, you know, know they're this dynamic duo. They follow each other around. But it was really like, yeah, Sarah Jane sucks Brooke's ass and that's why she's the most successful one.
A
Yes. But also I think that in their personalities they're really similar in terms of like their ambition.
B
We have to talk about the Internet.
A
Which is like a good thing. The. The ambition. Like Grace and doesn't have that. But like Sarah Jane and Brooks do and they're both very like motivated. So I think Sarah Jane encourages Brooks to work that hard to take these jobs, take the Ozempic and that they're just like more compatible in that sense.
B
We need to talk about Grace and the intervention and the fact that probably season two storyline is Grace and going to rehab. Like, she's obviously an alcoholic. You don't. Your friends and family don't have an intervention with you with like an intervention specialist, like, if you're not. And so she's over here having like a kegs and legs party. But you, you obviously are an alcoholic.
A
How did that party make you feel?
B
Horrible. And honestly, like, why Was it at 4 o'? Clock? Did you see the sign that said like private party, 4 to 8pm? Well, maybe it was like because they were filming.
A
No. Or it was like a dart. That's fun.
B
Jackie was horrifying. Like, honestly, Brooke should not have been at that party to be seen there.
A
The idea, the model doesn't get to say when the shoot is. So the idea that Brooks would then have to turn down a big shoot.
B
And by the way, LA Rude, which I thought it was larued this whole time, is a huge shoot. It's like it was a big. It wasn't like she just booked something so she didn't have to go to that party. Which I would have understood too.
A
Yeah. No, they show later during the show how her pictures for LaRue Day are like on billboards, scaffoldings and whatever.
B
Yeah.
A
The idea that Brooks wouldn't have done that to go to this party, like.
B
Grow up, grow up. She was such a baby about it.
A
And you don't even like Brooks in this moment. Why do you want her there, then the whole party is gonna, like, be about your big supermodel sister. Like, you're. She's damned if she does. She's damned if she doesn't.
B
No, the party was really sad. I really couldn't tell because a lot of times with these reality shows, they have to, like, throw parties to have have scenes and there's no music playing, and it's in the daylight, and it's like. You know, it's just weird because they're filming it. So I wasn't sure if it was weird because they were filming it or it was just, like, a weird party.
A
I think it was just, like, weird. I think what we saw was weird because they were filming and, like. And also just the energy was off because, like, everyone was, like, bitter about Brooks, and it's like, enjoy your party. I love your cake spritz. Like, enjoy your cake.
B
The show is just, like, such a such for me. Like, I obviously knew who Brooks Nader was. Like, beautiful bombshell, but. And maybe this is just, you know, how we think of models. Just a pretty face. But, like, Brooks is so not. Like, she really is this huge personality. She's so funny. Like, I was cackling at so many different things.
A
Oh, my God, I was cackling. When she's getting the massage and the witchy doctor was like, I think she's pregnant. And girls come in. They're like, no, she just has Kinkles. She's always had them. They're genetics.
B
Hilarious.
A
Laughing so hard.
B
Hard. Gleb. We have to talk about Gleb.
A
Unfortunately, we do.
B
Gleb cheated on her. And, like, the next day goes thirsting out, like, you know, really probably getting ahead of the narrative because he was planning all these threesomes behind her back while they were together. And something happens where she receives a text from him. And they won't say on the show what it is, but it's big enough of a thing that she has to tell her parents about it. She's hysterically crying. She's so ashamed. And she's, like, afraid. I mean, they keep alluding to, like, kind of, like, him threatening her over something. And the vibe that I got was, like, that he either has, like, videos of them having sex, they made, like, a sex tape together, or like, just nude photos that you would send your boyfriend. And he's sort of threatening, like, stop talking about me. And, you know, telling everyone that I cheated on you because I have this on you. And so she had to go tell her parents, who are, like, super religious. I love her parents. Her mom is gorgeous.
A
Such good parents.
B
Her parents are such good parents.
A
And even in the way I was stalking all the sisters last night, they all make, like, reels together in promotion of the show. And the parents are with them for everything right now.
B
Like, I saw that she was on Jimmy Kimmel Live.
A
They're really keeping a close.
B
Dad went.
A
They're keeping a close eye on their girls.
B
And it's like, the dad, just when you think, like, they're gonna push him over the edge, they're like, dude, he's so religious, and this is all so not scandalous. Just when you think, like, he can't take it anymore. He's just like, he loves his girls. He's an amazing dad.
A
God. Yeah, they're very supportive, but they're also not like, you know, they have their. Their princess. Yeah. And, like, they try and, like, guide. They're just good parents. It's like, it's nice to see.
B
It is really crazy, though, that not one. I feel like a lot of times when you grow up in a religious household, like, so many of the teachings that you teach your kids, like, backfire, they end up being, you know, the total opposite. It is just really shocking, though, that not one of them has remained like, you know, rel. I guess one would be Mary Beth Death.
A
What is Mary Holland?
B
But the mom's name is Holland. Yeah.
A
Yeah.
B
Okay.
A
By the way, Brooks is Brooks Claire. I don't know if you picked up on that.
B
I did pick up that her dad called her Brooks Claire because I'm like, oh, they all have two names except for Brooks. But no, she obviously dropped it.
A
Yeah, Brooks Claire.
B
Brooks Leach.
A
No Mary Holland.
B
Interesting that not one of them really stayed. Except, I guess if we were to say it would be Mary Holland because she hasn't, like, fully dove enough the deep end. And she was saying she's been struggling with her faith, but her man is super relig, too. Like, they need to get married if they're not together still. I'll be so upset.
A
Oh, my gosh. I. I mean, the show. What I also really like about it is it's quick. These most recent episodes were filmed in June or July. Like, it was a quick, quick turnout. They filmed that teased the second season.
B
Because they're talking about Bezos's wedding. So when does that come out?
A
When did they talk about that?
B
At the very end. It was like, you know, next season or whatever. It was like, a hype. And she's talking about if she's seeing someone, they're like, is it Tom Brady? Oh, did you see that trailer?
A
No, I only saw the trailer.
B
Then she's like, no, I'm seeing. She doesn't answer. Then she's like, the guy I'm seeing now, like, I have a lot of hope for. Like, I think it's really has a lot of potential. And they cut to her and some guy walking. So it's filming from the back. We don't see the guy walking onto, like, a helicopter.
A
Wait, how did I miss that? I saw the preview of, like, Mary Holland and Jules, like, talking about moving to la. Did you see that? They were in Central Park?
B
Yeah, that was on the episode.
A
That was an episode?
B
Yeah.
A
Oh, I guess there's one episode I didn't watch then.
B
Oh, that episode? Yeah.
A
Okay.
B
At the end of that episode, they tease, like. Coming up on Snader Live, what's the name of the show? Love.
A
Yeah. Yeah.
B
It seems like a teaser for an upcoming season. Oh, you're one episode behind.
A
I guess I am. And I've kept up this whole time. I've kept pace and.
B
Oh, so you didn't see the dm?
A
What dm? Can I just tell you what dm?
B
So they're at her pride dinner. Sarah Jane.
A
Yes.
B
And Grace Ann gets a dm being like, one of your sister's boyfriends has a baby with my friend.
A
Right. Who is it?
B
And like. And so it's pretty much assumed that it's jewels. I count right after, she's talking about, like, maybe moving to la. Like, he asked her. She's telling her parents. She hasn't told her sisters yet, but she's, like, really thinking about it. And then she gets this dm and the second she sees the screen, she doesn't even read it. She starts crying because she has me cheated on before. And both times she found out via dm. And so who's crying next day?
A
Mary Howell.
B
Mary Beth. She's, like, crying cry. It's just assumed that it's Jules.
A
I don't think it is.
B
So the next day, they're like, grace, you have to DM the girl back. And be like, who are you talking about? And they're actually filming their confessionals for Hulu. When Grace gets the text and they say it's blank, they bleep out his name. Not Jules. It's not anyone on the show.
A
I don't know who. You made me sick for no reason. I said I just.
B
And Mary Beth was sick. She had to ask him, do you have a baby with someone? And he Was like, no, I swear.
A
And, like. Like, now he's, like, in the swamp, you know?
B
No, I know this podcast, which I was so happy for Fran and Rhea.
A
Like, this Vicom is being accused of having a. Like, he swallowed.
B
I know. And, like, when they were, like, talking about, like, his title and stuff, like, I wanted to kill Grace Ann. Like, oh, no, actually, that was Brooks. Sorry.
A
No, but Grace and, like, opened the door. And also.
B
Yes.
A
And. And let's just keep. I mean, trailer sex and trailer sex. Which was, like, really uncool.
B
Yeah. No, I was actually really mad at them because Mary Holland has the opportunity at, like, a. A really amazing life with this guy. Like, he's British royalty, and he loves her, and he's such a good guy. And I felt like they were sabotaging it, and that really pissed me off.
A
So who else is? It's probably someone's old boyfriend or whatever that they. It's probably Gleb.
B
They bleeped out.
A
Yeah, like, 100 Gleb.
B
And they think that, like, Gleb I can't stand. He should be fired. Honestly, like, because they're both employees of abc. Like, not to be, like, a narc. Karen. HR they're both employees of. Of Hulu. He's clearly threatening her with, like, revenge porn. I think that's because they were saying it's illegal. Like, you should be fired.
A
Go tell Jimmy.
B
Yeah, Jimmy, why don't you make yourself useful?
A
Make yourself useful and fire that freak.
B
I feel like there are also so many. He's just one of, you know.
A
A dancer now.
B
He's a part of this loser duo. I cannot wait to tune into Dancing with the Stars tomorrow. And I'm gonna be, like. I'm literally gonna be, like, sabotaging. Hilarious partner.
A
Wow. Well, I'm excited. I have another episode to watch, and I'm glad it's not Jules. And I'm. You know what? I'm glad I know that now because I can't handle stress.
B
I know. I was so upset.
A
I can't handle stress at this moment.
B
So it was really sad.
A
It's for the best.
B
That apartment is gorgeous. I do think they all have their own rooms. It seems like Brooks's room.
A
There's the room with the hats on the wall.
B
Yes. That's Grace. And.
A
Okay. And if it's something we're gonna share, I feel like it'd be. Mary Holland would be shared sharing with someone.
B
Really feel like it's just the two youngest.
A
No, but, like, Grace Ann needs her space.
B
No, they also, like, she said she feels like a black sheep. Like, she is a bit of an outsider.
A
Yeah. And she, like, the other girls, like, I don't know. I feel like they go along to get along more. Just, like, you know, keep it moving. Keep it. And, like, she just, like, gets, like, is more sensitive.
B
I have one more thing to say. Mary Beth, like, calls herself the peacemaker. And they all said, like, she actually, like, doesn't really get involved in the drama. She's, like, the peacemaker. And everybody goes to her when they're fighting with another sister to, like, talk about that sister. And she's really not a peacemaker. She gases that person up. She's like, yeah, she's kind of annoying. She's like, always, like. She involves herself. She talks. She gases up the person and makes them think that they're right. A peacemaker, like, offers a rebuttal, says, like, maybe, you know, let's take it slow, I guess.
A
But I used to hear, really something come out of Mary Holland's mouth that I disagree with. So I think she's just, like, a true. I think she's just like, a voice of reason. And it's like, if she's agreeing with you, like, you're probably right. Right. And we'll go and talk to the other sister, who's probably.
B
And Sarah Ann being, like, going to Mary Beth and being like, you know, everybody calls me a hoe. It's, like, not my thing. And it's like. It's, like, not a real conversation. And like, you. You. You embrace that. In the first couple of episodes, you were like, yeah, like, I got roster, roster, roster. And so now you don't like it.
A
You're saying she's a hoe for show.
B
I want to say that lesbian bar scene where they're singing Pink Pony Club was the cutest thing ever.
A
Like, oh, I didn't see that.
B
What? Oh. Oh. So I guess the Pride Dinner is the last episode.
A
Yes, yes, I. Pride Dinner. I saw a preview for.
B
Yeah. Okay. So do you want me to tell you about Pink Pony Club or.
A
No, no, no. Let me have my own experience with it.
B
It was really cute.
A
Let me see if I. If I feel the same.
B
I just love Brooks. Like, I'm obsessed. I followed her on, like, all platforms last night, like, being such a freak. I was talking her. She's just really funny. You don't. This isn't gonna be, like, mean. You don't expect somebody so pretty to be so funny.
A
Yeah, and I love their. That they're so sisterly and, like, They're. They're so close. Like, they're so close knit. They're close. Like, Sarah Jean's 23 and Brooks is 28. That's four girls.
B
Like, it's crazy that Sarah Jane is the youngest.
A
Yeah, it's. They're just, like, really cute. Really, like steenie and sisterly. And, like, that's so real. And it's nice to watch. And they're so gorgeous. They're sickeningly gorgeous.
B
I really am curious what Brooks look would look like with. And she, like, talks openly about the fact that anytime she's been told to, like, get a no job, whatever, she does what she is told to do. And that's why. Why she. That's what she says. Why she's so successful. But I'm really curious because the rest are supernatural. Right? They don't look like they've had a ton of filler. I'm sure they've had, you know, like.
A
Yeah, the usual.
B
The usual. But they look really like the OG versions of themselves. And I was looking at pictures of Brooks last night, and she's so different looking. I would love to know what she really would look like.
A
I actually don't, like, see the resemblance between all of them, do you?
B
I think they all look alike besides Brooks.
A
Oh, you think so?
B
Oh, I mean, Maddie Holland is. Is twins with her mother, Sarah Jane.
A
Who she reminds me of in addition to Kylie when she's speaking. Victoria Fuller.
B
I heard people saying also Rachel Kirkano.
A
Victoria Fuller. No, like, maybe for you guys. Rachel. For me, it's Victoria Fuller on my screen. It's crazy.
B
And did you see my text? Ben made the most amazing call about Mary Holland.
A
What?
B
She looks, but more so, like, her mannerisms and her talking. She is twins with your friend Sam from college.
A
Sam Frankel.
B
Yeah. Yeah. Watch. I texted you. I said, Ben said that Mary back.
A
Oh, I didn't even see.
B
That is you. When you watch tonight, just, like, think of Sam. You're gonna be shook.
A
Oh, that's so crazy.
B
What?
A
Like, that's such a compliment.
B
Yeah.
A
So who's your favorite?
B
Brooks, of course.
A
Yeah.
B
Who's your favorite?
A
Well, yeah, probably Brooks, like, you know, at a glance. But, like, I really love Mary Holland. I'm really rooting for him.
B
I mean, you are a Mary Holland too.
A
She has such great style. Even, like, her business idea is actually not a bad one. But it's like, girl, just be a lady. Like, don't.
B
Or go back to Deutsch.
A
Don't work that hard.
B
Agreed.
A
But yeah, no, there is a need for that for the independently employed to.
B
Have financially quick Quickbooks.
A
But we. But it's not. You know, they don't speak the language of Gen Z.
B
Okay. It's such a bad idea. Like, I wanted to shake her and honestly that would like to grace hand in that moment being like, okay.
A
Sure.
B
It's an amazing show. I cannot wait for season two. Sign me up.
A
Yeah, same. I can't believe it's over. I thought like, it was just. I thought it just.
B
It's not over for you. It did.
A
I know, but I didn't realize that like this was last episode. I thought it was coming out week, week, week, you know.
B
Oh, yeah. Oh, is it?
A
Yeah.
B
Oh, so the preview. I thought, I thought the whole series came out at once.
A
No, Hulu doesn't do that.
B
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. So the video, the trailer that I saw is just the next week's episode?
A
Pretty sure.
B
Oh, she's talking about the Bezos wedding. Oh, I'm sad. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, I'm sad.
A
Yeah. Okay, cool. Everything's okay.
B
Okay, great. All right, you guys, we have to get this episode up. It's such a long episode. Thank you so much for listening to the toast, the millennial morning show where we Deliver the Fast 5 stories that you need to everybody the Friday on YouTube. So watching us on YouTube please help you subscribe me this video. Thumbs up. We're also available as podcast number podcast beyond. So it's Spotify, itunes, Stitcher public video. I already cast fox all the places Webb listen to podcasts and that's the five star view about a beautiful sounding and wickedly talented we are.
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Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry
Date: September 15, 2025
Episode Theme:
A lighthearted Monday catch-up filled with pop culture recaps, sibling banter, TV reviews (notably Hulu’s “Love Thy Nader”), and key celebrity news. Jackie and Claudia toggle between personal anecdotes, TV/film commentary, and their signature playful teasing, providing both entertainment and hot takes for listeners.
The episode kicks off with a typical “Toast” blend of sisterly ribbing and pop culture rundown. The heart of the episode revolves around the Hulu reality show Love Thy Nader—a deep TV recap highlighting its themes, standout moments, and cast. The hosts also cover weekend activities, celebrity news (breakups and sports), the importance of authenticity in reality TV, and recognizable “Toast” tangents—Spanish mispronunciations, movie snacks, and family dog drama.
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On Love Thy Nader’s Ozempic Honesty:
On Reality TV Authenticity:
On Taylor Swift Chiefs Conspiracy:
On NFL Team Colors:
On Breakups:
The conversation blends irreverence, pop-culture fluency, and familial warmth. Jackie and Claudia riff off each other’s jokes with easy chemistry, moving between earnestness (on Ozempic and TV’s impact) and total frivolity (snack choices, sibling gossip). The show’s trademark is its colloquial banter and ability to skirt between profound and playful with immediate ease.
This installment of The Toast balances genuine TV/media critique with the sisters’ infectious, relatable camaraderie. The Love Thy Nader review stands out for its nuanced look at body image, honesty in reality television, and the complications of mixing family, fame, and ambition—encapsulating why listeners tune in for both the laughs and the insights.
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Anyone looking for a lively blend of reality TV analysis, pop culture news, and comedic commentary—especially fans of Hulu’s latest reality offerings.