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Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast.
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It's Jackson Claude and we're your host.
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It's your favorite show.
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The best five things you need to know.
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We'll start your day off Swirly. It's the Toast.
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They sound amazing.
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Welcome back to the shows and Happy Monday. While it is technically Monday, of course.
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For us it's different this Monday. It has a little like other Mondays.
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A little sweetness to it. You know, everyone, it's a broken up.
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Week for your girls because Rosh Hashanah starts tonight, which is the Jewish New Year. It's one of the high holidays, as they're called. So we are off tomorrow and Wednesday. Not to start this episode like on a negative note.
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So negative.
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But it just does change the tenor of this Monday.
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And I feel like around this time of year, we spend so much time on the podcast talking about the upcoming holidays. It's like a big time for the Jewish people. The beginning of Q4. We have our new year, Rosh Hashanah, followed by one of our, you know, our day of atonement, Yom Kippur. One of the worst days ever. And I feel like we're always talking about it, but now that we're both in our, like, maternal era, a lot of like, the Yom Kippur dread doesn't apply to us because you don't have to fast.
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What do you mean us?
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I'm nursing. You don't have to fast.
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You don't.
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I actually think we have a lot of toasters who are Rebbetsons, like wife of rabbis. And I'm sure, like, you could ask your husband, like, do nursing women have to. And they would say that I do have to fast. But the thing is, is, like, I'm not, like, I literally can't.
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So what's your plan? Like to plan to not like waking up, having breakfast, or like going through as much of the day as you can and like, when you can't do it anymore, giving up.
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Like, it has been my understanding I'm responsible for feeding a growing human being. I don't think God would want me to spend the whole day fasting. I don't need a rabbi or anyone like to tell me that. Yeah, it's been my thought process up until this point. Like, I'm just straight up not fasting.
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Oh, I didn't realize that I am straight up not fasting.
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Of course you're.
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I'm not even like, going through as much of the day to see because when I don't eat and I don't drink, like, or I don't have coffee. Like, it gives me a headache, and, like, I'm not getting ahead.
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Jackie, it's not even a question, like, don't be a martyr.
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No, I'm not. I'm not. That's why I. I haven't mentioned Yom Kippur, because I'm not really dreading it that much. And actually, the other thing that we do for Yom Kippur, which is turn our phones off completely, I am so looking forward to. I'm so sick of my phone. It's making me sick from the inside out. I'm so sick of it. And it's, like, funny because it's like, technically, I could turn my phone off whenever, but, like, I can't because I have to talk to my, like, my family, who I love, and if they're not turning their phones off, like, neither can I.
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Of course.
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But I'm really looking forward to that.
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Part a hundred percent. Last year at this time, I was, like, in the throes of first trimester nausea, so. So I obviously was not fasting so much, so I actually had a couple crackers in my purse, and I ate them in the bathroom at Chul. I felt so bad, but, like, I was just doing what I had to do, survive at that point. Like, if you've been there, you know, and I feel like God was like, it's totally fine. But this upcoming holiday, first we have Russia Shout out, which is the Jewish New Year. It's also best holidays. Yeah, no dread. You know, I love it. We're actually hosting tonight. I'm. We're going all out after going to Florence after this. Like, I'm being such a mom. Like, now that I have a kid. Like, I have a holiday special. No paper plates.
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Oh, God, no.
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Oh. Oh, God, honey, no. If you're gonna drink, I'd rather you do it in the house.
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Oh, God, no.
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No. No paper cups, no paper. Nothing.
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Oh, God, no. Like, that's not.
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Not even, like, fancy plastic.
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No. Are you crazy?
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Home goods. We brought out the good home goods.
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Maybe night two, we could talk.
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I'm not hosting night two. I'm not hosting two nights in a row.
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My chef is hosting me both nights, which is really nice of her.
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Oh, well, that's huge of Olivia.
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Yeah. But we usually. Cheetahs one night. I do the other night. But, like, what am I doing right now? Even though I did host yesterday, I just want to say I hosted yesterday for a football.
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Different. Less dishes. You're not, like, seated yeah, no, we.
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Had, like, a party, like, Snacky affair, made some fresh grilled cheeses on sourdough. It was really parch.
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Speaking of sourdough, there has been a huge revelation in Ben Sourdough Journey, and I feel like now I can speak really openly. Last week, I was, like, saying Jackie and I said on the podcast, but I was catching. Couching it nicely. I'm like, his bread sucks. And he was so, you know, proud almost to the point of, like, his ego got in his way of his own starter. And I was really of the mind that, like, if he had used more mature starter, his breads. And we just, like, couldn't figure out why his loaf wasn't rising well. And to be honest, when I got home after the show on Friday, there had been a loaf taken out of the oven. We were letting it rest. When I got home, I was just, like, poking around at it. I didn't touch it. I picked it up, Jackie. It felt like a cinder block. I'm like, there is cement inside this loaf. Like, it was so crazy. We opened it up. It was the densest. You couldn't really cut it. It wasn't edible. We threw it out. And I. I had to sit him down and say, listen, I know you're like a prideful person, but it's really not working for me. You need fresh starter.
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Yeah. So then he called me, told me changes he was going to make to his starter. I was feeling hopeful about that. But then I asked him, like, what's your process on cooking day? Because he goes to me, he's like, I have my fresh starter. This was on Friday night, and you guys were going out that night. And so it was probably like 6 o'.
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Clock.
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And he was like, I mix, like, a fresh loaf and doing my stretch and folds with my new starter. Like, feeling good. I'm like, wait, are you gonna wake up at 6am and be doing shapings? Like, when are you gonna shape this thing? And he was like, no, I do the stretch and folds, and then I put it in the fridge, and then I take it out in the morning and I bake it. I'm like, well, it's not bulk fermenting. Like, it's not rising.
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Right? So we were sitting around wondering, picking our noses, why isn't Ben's loaf rising? And it's because we actually were skipping the step where we rise.
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You were skipping the, like, the whole thing?
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Yeah. We found a huge flaw, honestly. Another enormous knock in ChatGPT's column because Ben has been following ChatGPT for sourdough to a T. And it made sense. It's like a methodical, scientific thing. They completely left out that step. He's no longer really guide being guided by chat and. And it's a huge loss for me for chat. Like Chad is sucking it up recently.
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No. I'm in shock. So he left the bowl on the counter while you guys went out when you came home. Probably like around one. So that was more bulk fermenting than a loaf of his had ever done. He put it you guys in the fridge.
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It's perfect. I had a piece this morning.
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Right. And it's only going to get better from here. We'll find the exact schedule that works for him. But when he told me starting a loaf at like 5pm you can sometimes start a loaf at like 8 or 9pm if you're going to let it rise overnight. The timing kind of works. But 5pm I'm like, are you going to set an alarm for 3am? What are you doing?
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And you know what? I feel so vindicated. Even though I wasn't right about what was wrong. I knew something was wrong.
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Yeah. Yeah. And that's why they weren't getting bigger. That's when the gluten develops. That's when the magic of the sourdough happens. When it's just like fermenting.
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And honestly, I'm such a good wife for like even indulging in those first two loaves. Like they were disgusting. Now that I can like really speak freely. Disgusting.
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Yeah. I'm very excited for him. And this is what it takes. Like it's not even if you have plenty of experts and.
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Right.
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It just. Every loaf is different. Everyone's kitchen temperature. Everything is different. So I'm glad he's on a good path.
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Yeah. So that was like a huge celebration this weekend. We also celebrated a wedding this weekend. We were at a wedding Friday and Saturday night of one of our top tier swirly. She's probably like the number one listener to the show. She's probably listening right now on her way to her honeymoon.
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Yeah.
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Jackie's like oldest friend from campus friend.
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In the world, Margot Lou. And we talk about her all the time.
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She's like, she's like your friend obviously. But I feel like now she's like a family friend. She's friends with all the sisters individually, like for sure.
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As she's been for a while. Because we've been. Yeah. We have 20 plus years of friendship. 25 years to be exact.
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She's definitely like the oldest Friend in the family. In the family. She's the best. It was such a great wedding. She's like, you know, she's like everybody's biggest cheerleader. She's like that friend who's, like, super positive, always shows up for you, like, always. And so everybody gave that to her. Like, everything she puts into the world, she, like, gets out. It was just, like, such a happy weekend. And I've been to a wedding in a while. Real, you know, mom's night out. I took a couple of shots.
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Hey, speaking of weddings, we dropped a Patreon on Friday all about weddings. Because we were so inspired by Claudia and Ben's love and their wedding anniversary. And we did a q and A all about our weddings. Weddings in general. Like, budgets.
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Our thoughts on the industry.
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Yeah. Our thoughts on trends. And it was a really fun episode. I think we've got a part two coming because we need. There was so much more to discuss. We were having so much fun. So it's kind of like wedding season right now.
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Yes.
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Around here.
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I don't know if you've seen, but, like, people are begging for a part two.
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I mean, I am. I really enjoyed it. And I was looking at the questions, and there were still so many fab. More questions. So let's do it. We'll. We'll get on the schedule.
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And it's worth mentioning that you and I are once again, like, borderline matching.
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We are so simpatico.
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I'm wearing this nautico, this knit set. Guess where it's from.
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I don't know.
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I'll give you a clue.
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Okay.
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We actually recently went to one of these stores in person together.
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Gap.
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Yes. Low key. Everyone's sleeping on the Gap. I got, like, some good in the Hamptons. There's a Gap. And we were just like, okay, let's go to the Gap. And I got some really good, like, T shirts. You know, just, like, good basic white T shirts. So I went on the website to buy some more, and I just, you know, dilly dally. I don't know if they, like, do this as a marketing thing. It's like, oh, everything is 75% off. You know, this sweater was three cents. Like, everything is just slashed. And you know what? Because I'm. I'm just not investing in, like, expensive at my current size. Shout out to the Gap. Making clothes.
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Women have an order in at the Gap. A couple of maternity pairs of pants. Because I have these one pair of maternity pajamas that are from the Gap from, like, my first pregnancy. And I was Wearing them. The other day I actually wore them to the movies. It was pajama pants with a like. But they're navy blue, so they were fine. And I was like, I should get more maternity pants cuz I really need that. They had really cute stuff at the Gap. So I'm waiting for my order. I'll let you know how it goes.
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We're just a couple of gapping girls.
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Not an ad.
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No. But open to sponsorship, as always, per usual.
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No, I'm wearing the roller rabbit set. Our sponsor that. Our sponsor.
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Oh, I have that set too. This is the one I wore that the other day.
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This is the one you wore the other day? Yeah.
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Who wore best?
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Sound off in the comments.
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Okay, I have to tell you. So I'm a part of this like Tick Tock conspiracy theory. I totally forgot to tell you.
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Is it about Bruno? Because he's still not here. Where is Bruno?
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So on Saturday night I'll wait for you to. To be done texting.
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I just need to make sure because when I came up to the studio, I hadn't seen Bruno all morning. I think Zach might have put him in the crate. So I'm just texting to confirm, make sure I didn't. Don't need to go canvas the area.
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So I'm a part of a Tick Tock conspiracy theory. I posted on Saturday night. You know, I was going out for the night so I was like making content and ended up wearing this bag that I got like maybe a year ago. And I've never worn it just because like I got it when I was like pregnant and I think it's my black mini Kelly. So I did like a little unboxing because it was still in the box and everything. And I posted it just being like unboxing this bag. You know, that's what people do on Tick Tock. They like share their bags for sure.
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But I started to see some weird stuff. I saw two girls post the exact same video. I. I was going to send it to you and say what's going on? But.
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Oh, so you, you are also a part of the conspiracy theory.
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I just, I approached it on my own. And then I saw a third girl who I don't follow. Actually, the two girls, I don't even follow them. And then the third girl, who I also don't follow was unboxing an air maze bag, but it was a different one. I could tell it was going to be bigger and I moved on with my life. I didn't know who she was, so.
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No, I unboxed Mini Kelly and two other Danielle Bernstein and acquired style. Like, NYC girlies. Also, I think they're both engaged, so they were talking about, like, their bridal bags.
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They had the same caption saying, my dream bag for my bridal era. And.
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Oh, that's weird.
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The same exact bridal era dream bag.
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So people are, like, kind of looping me into. Okay, maybe it's, like, more so about them than it is about me. But people are like. The comments were like, what is going on? All three girls? And I was like, I didn't see. Found myself in the middle. They think it's like Hermes sending us pr. Lol. I just want to clear the air. Like, I have no connection. I mean, I obviously know these other two girls just from, like, being, you know, a New Yorker, but I have no connection to them. There's no conspiracy. It's. I have to say, I did see. I did see Danielle Bernstein unboxing, and I feel like maybe when I was then going into my closet to get my bag, I was like, oh, I should do what she did. Like, for sure. It's like it was in my brain because I just recently had watched hers, but I just want to say there's no connection.
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Acquired said dream bridal purse. We wore what Said unboxing my dream bridal era back, but then in the. Yeah. What?
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I know. So I just want to say, like, it's probably more, like, conspiracy about them than it is about me.
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Yeah, I'm not worried about it, but.
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I. I definitely, like, had the idea in my brain because I had seen one of their videos, like, just scrolling, like.
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Yeah, because that's just what people do. Yeah. No, I think for the two of them, it's just, like, parallel thinking that's just really so strange. Within, like, two days of each other.
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And then I copied, and then both.
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Of them came on my algorithm. No, I can't. You didn't post yours to reels, did you? No.
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That's why you're not familiar with mine.
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That's why I'm like, you're not involved.
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You're working with limited information.
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Yeah. Okay, so what's the conspiracy?
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Well, they're trying to figure out, like, well, all three girls posted three.
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Well, stop.
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No, Jackie, I'm telling you. Can I. The comments on my video are like, what's going on? What's going on? Everybody thinks there's a conspiracy. I'm telling you. You guys. Tell Jackie. Tell Jackie. I'll read it to you, I swear.
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Send me screenshots of the Comment section?
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No, I'll just read it to you right now. Opening up. Okay, there's my bag. Ready? Did every influencer get a mini Kelly today? I love your Kelly. Hermes.
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That's the best comment.
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Why is everybody unboxing one of these today? Oh, another comment. This is not related but worth mentioning. Girl, are you on Ozempic?
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No. Thanks, Queen.
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Is everyone getting a Kelly now?
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Is everyone? Do I need a Kelly, Minnie? I think so.
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Oh, and then somebody called me. Take a list. Not cool. Ali Jansen.
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Even I'm not allowed to. Even I've rolled it back.
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Ali didn't acquired style just do the same unboxing today. Did everyone get the same bag on the same day? Where's mine?
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No. If only it worked like that.
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So just saying, like, they are talking about me and they are including me. And then I got tagged in a couple of videos being like, did anybody see these three Required style And Claudia. Yeah, they are including.
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They're including you in, like, the green screen conspiracy theory videos.
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Yeah, yeah. And I just wanted to clear up that there's nothing going on.
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Well, thank you so much for that.
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You're welcome.
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I hope you enjoyed your evening with your mini Kelly.
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I did. It was a little too many. My phone in there. And you know me, I have, like, my big, like, Magna magazine Scott gear. I've got the iPhone Pro Max. I've got an October magnetic thing on the end. And like, a little. If you guys can hear a little wristlet. My phone's not fitting in any bag.
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Got it. Bruno is in his crate. So let the rumors live another day.
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Well, Bruno's crate, actually a cool thing about your house, and it was really smart, is that you had Bruno's crate because the crate is so ugly. So when you were, like, doing renovations on your house, there was, like, some empty space under the staircase, like where Harry Potter lived. We built it, and they just, like, carved out a crate. And so Bruno's crate is, like, in the wall. It's actually really sick. If the house ever collapsed, like, he's in trouble.
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He's never in his crate. Except for right now.
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Ben calls Bruno Harry Potter because he lives under the staircase. That was Loki. So crazy of his aunt and uncle.
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That he lives under the staircase. I should actually, like, make a. A cool video showing Bruno's crate. It's kind of like a cool feature. I could see it, like, you know.
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Popping, going viral, being like, a really cool thing that we did when we built our house. People are always doing that.
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If you see me Doing that video. Like, don't question it. Just.
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Just, like.
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And subscribe and. Yeah. And share. Get the shares up and, like, let's see if it has legs. Okay.
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It definitely does. I see that all the time. And I actually always get inspired, like, if I ever buy a house.
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Yeah, you have, like, a bunch of saved of, like, random. You do.
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People are always, like, making the most out of the space under the stairs.
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As you should. We've made the most out of the space under our stairs. We have a bathroom. We have a powder room.
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Yeah, you really did. I've seen people do, like, big storage. Like, we have this.
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Then we also have a storage closet. Has, like, strollers. Yeah. It has a lot of, like, baby gear in there.
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Interesting.
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Very interesting stuff going on.
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The stories are meh. Okay, so we don't need to, like, dive in.
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No, we don't need to, like, run. Write in to do what we do, because I guess we're not going to do what we do again until Thursday.
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Oh, my God, that sucks for everyone else.
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I know. Sorry. And you guys don't have, like, a party new year to celebrate, but it's.
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Kind of like one man's trash is another man's treasure. Like, we get two days off of work and everybody suffers. I'm sorry.
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Yeah, I am sorry. But we have Patreon. There's two new episodes already. And we're gonna drop the third wedding episode this week.
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We'll drop it on Rosh Hashanah.
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Yeah. So that you guys have a little something.
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Let's give him something to talk about.
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What's been making for dinner?
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Oh, my God. Okay. I literally had to, like, have a chat with him this morning.
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You had to chat to him?
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Yeah, I had to pull him for a chat because I, like, sense him getting overwhelmed. And, like, I just. This happens every time we host. It's like 6:59 and he's freaking. So I said, I'm like, don't do too much. Like, it's okay to outsource. Like, you can get the appetizers from the kosher grocer, like, pre made. You don't have to make everything. He's like, no, I know. I agree. He just, like, it's placating me. I just know it's gonna be hell because he's, like, taking out all of our platters. He's like, oh, this would be a good one for the sashimi. Sashimi.
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Sashimi for Rosh Hashanah.
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Ben's dad is vegetarian. His sister Maddie's gluten and dairy free. So we have like a lot of specifications, the sashimi and like I'm bringing out the folding table. Like you just know shit's getting wild when the folding table is.
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Okay. So what is he making in addition to does she me?
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He made the brisket yesterday. So like the big main piece is just needs to be like thrown in the oven. Yeah, he's making an orzo love. We did outsource the chicken soup from the kosher grocer, but he insists on putting it on the stove and like re seasoning it. Okay, fine, fine. Mashed potatoes.
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Yeah.
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Which is such. I suggested outsourcing mashed potatoes cuz it's so hard to make mashed potatoes. What else is he making? Oh, you know. Oh, oh, oh, and apple cinnamon dip or something. Yeah, but not coco, but like a dip of sorts. I don't know, it's just. I can't go. I have to stay out of the house today. It's crazy in there.
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I understand.
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And the annoying thing about hosting, when you have an open concept kitchen, people don't talk about this enough. Like open concept kitchens, like low key suck. Because by the time everybody arrives, everything has to be clean. I'm in the throws.
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Bring back walls. Build the wall. Build the wall.
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I love your walls, house. Like, where are walls actually? Like, I'm like, ben, we have to have everything spotless because when you're in the throes of hosting, your kitchen is insane. I know, but our stupid open concept.
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No, like, whatever happened to rooms?
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I believe it was RuPaul said it best. Bring back my room walls.
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Yeah, I'm putting walls up. I'm building a wall.
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Yeah, build the wall.
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Build that wall.
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Should we rage bait and make that the title?
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100%.
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People are going to be like, what are those two freaks talking about again today?
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No, I love that for us. Unless it's like, I love your walls. Kitchen house.
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Yeah, like something. I love your walls. General contractor.
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Oh, we'll talk later. But definitely we've got something. Something to do with the walls.
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Let's give them something to talk about.
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Like these four walls that came down around us.
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I'm gonna stop you right there because I want to sing the chorus. Must have been something Sent me out of my head with the words so lyrical not what I meant but now I'll wait for a break in the silence. Cause it's all that you left Just me and these four walls again. That song is so amazing.
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Yeah. Really, really beautiful.
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I added to like my karaoke repertoire I have, like, a list of songs on my phone because, like, when I get drunk, I like what songs it.
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Yeah, do it now.
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People. People are gonna be like, is she playing Four Walls by Miley Cyrus?
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If they even know what it is. If they're even educated enough.
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Where did. Where. Oh, here. Four Walls.
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I just feel like maybe your karaoke crowd, like, won't. Won't know it, you know, I. I can't see the Taylors knowing that song.
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Well, so it's. Yeah. A lot of the, like, places I frequent. And I'm glad you bring up the Taylors that have karaoke. They're like gay bars. And I don't know if, like, the gay community really messes with, like, early Miley.
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Yeah. No, but I wasn't even. It wasn't even a knock on the gay community. I just meant, like, even if you went to, like, duets, right? Like, the people that you would go with, like, your usual karaoke crew. Crew. I don't think that they mess with her. Like, the Taylors, like, no shade to the Taylors.
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They definitely don't mess with.
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I think that would be a point of pride for them that they don't know that song.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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That's just how it just shows. Like, different people, like, can be friends, like, even with differences and something that.
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Doesn'T get spoken about enough is, like, Taylor Strucker and I's generational difference. Like, she is 11 years older than me. It's insane because she looks insane for her age. But, like, every now and then, mostly when we're at a restaurant and she pulls out her glasses, like, to read the menu, I'm reminded of, like, how far apart we are in age.
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But you're also.
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Makes me feel better.
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You're an old soul.
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Correct. I've always been drawn to an older crowd.
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Yeah. She's just very mature for her age.
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That is what they say about me.
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Yeah. While also being young at heart, of course.
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And. And physically looking. Yes. It's hard to. I cover a lot of bases.
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It's true. She's ageless.
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I'm just gonna say I really am ageless.
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Yeah. I could see people, like, if they didn't know you that well, not knowing what age you are, you know?
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Yeah.
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You being one of those people that, like, is she in her 20s? Is she in her 40s?
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Excuse me. So I actually went to a baby shower yesterday, and we brought Ruby because it's a baby shower. And. Oh, my God, everybody was like. And someone was like, is that your baby? I think they thought I was like, obviously, like the baby's older sister, you know, and that made me feel good.
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Yeah, we're like the babysitter.
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Sure, I'll take it.
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Yeah.
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Oh, my God. We got stuck in so much traffic going to the baby shower because we got stuck in the Mexican Day parade. Obviously didn't know my people were congregating or I would have been on a float. And I'm actually insulted to have not been asked to be the grand marshal of the LA parade.
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That's rude.
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But it's actually when you get like, close to the avenue where the parade is happening for any. Every Sunday in, like, the fall and spring, it's like the Greek Orthodox parade. And you see people when you get close, like, walking to the parade and they're all, like, dressed in their, you know, nationalities, garb, flags around, and it's really cute. The traffic, not so much. But. Yeah, I went to a party yesterday.
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It's crazy that they just, like, have parades in the middle of the city and they just, like, shut it down.
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And I have to say, it is the worst part about living here. Like, every Sunday, it's a gorgeous day. You want to go somewhere? Good luck.
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There's a parade for that.
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It's uptown, it's downtown, it's all. It's everywhere.
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I'm sorry. That. But that's okay. Shall we get into the stories? I guess the fast five stories you need to know that are brought to.
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Our first story, some football news. Lots of football on yesterday. I watched a lot of football. As I said, I hosted. And then last night when I got into bed, I just like needed something mindless. So I turned on the chief scheme. But there was a lot going on in the world of football. Plus I finished my football documentary. So I was just immersed in that world.
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What did the Chiefs play?
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The Chiefs played the Giants.
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Did they win?
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The Chiefs did win. They eked it out in the fourth quarter. I went to bed in the middle of the fourth quarter. It's just all taking too long.
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Football games are so long.
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It was really long. And especially in the Cowboys documentary They kept being like, you play for 60 minutes, you got to give it all 60. I'm like, let's get real. It's three hours.
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Three hours.
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Okay. But thanks. Thanks. The Chiefs did win. They were stinking it up, but then they got it together, and now they're two and one as opposed. Like, they were two and oh, could have gone three and oh, and now the Giants are three and oh.
A
Oh, you mean oh and three.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Three zero is really different than Owen. Three, oh, and three. But okay. That's so Giants.
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That is so Giants. They actually have a new guy on the team. He's a little one. Like, he's a shorty.
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Russell.
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No, like a catcher and a runner.
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A coucher and a runner.
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Yeah.
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Catcher in the ride.
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He was doing amazing things. He scored one touchdown. He did a backflip in the end zone. Like, that's an okay.
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It's so crazy when people do that. Like, it really speaks to their athletic ability.
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It also, like, makes me really nervous because, like, you could get injured and, like, is that how you would want to go out?
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Like, you got injured on the job but not doing your actual job? Just celebrating.
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I know. And it's like, when you do things in a helmet, I don't know how they wear those helmets all the time. Like, to do a backflip in a helmet is a crazy thing to do. It's so heavy.
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Yeah. But I guess it's better than doing it. Not in a helmet. No.
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But, like, I just feel like the. The physics of it, like, the center.
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Of gravity is shifted down.
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But anyways, this man was a real athlete. His last name was, like, skippity or something like that.
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Yeah. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
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But major news for the girlies was that Olivia Colbo took her baby daughter Colette to her first football game to watch her dad, Christian McCaffrey, slay the house down. Boots on the field.
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I watched Olivia Colbo. She did, like, a get ready with me on Tick Tock. And it's so funny because, like, I relate to her, even though she's, like, a couple of weeks behind me. Like, we're very much at the same phase, and she's still, like, exclusively breastfeeding while going back to work. And she was making a TikTok and she was wearing this outfit, and she was like, oh, my jeans are so tight. And she wore this, like, big red leather coat. She's in California, and she's just like, I know everyone is going to be like, why are you wearing that coat? It's too hot. But she's like, I just, like, hate my stomach, so I need to cover it. Like, which is so crazy because I see her and I'm like, how does she look like that? And for her, she, like, hates herself. I'm like, how. How are we living on the same planet?
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There's really nothing more annoying than when you are dressed. And obviously you have some insecurities, whether you're pregnant or you're postpartum, or you're just, like, feeling insecure. So, like.
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Or you're just alive.
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So you, like, wear something that's not perfect for the climate, weather. And then someone who knows you and knows that you, like, can look at the weather.
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Someone named Ben. Yeah.
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Someone named Zach says, aren't you going to be hot in that?
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No.
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Like, no.
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I completely agree. I just experienced.
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I just experienced it, too. And the last time I experienced it was a few years ago. And it took a few years. I guess he forgot the lesson a few years ago when I got. I literally just had charged Charlie and it was like, august here. But, like, I don't give a fuck. Like, I'm not showing my arms.
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Okay? So, like, literally on Saturday night, I wore, like, a jumpsuit. It was long sleeve, and it was this. The Saturday night of the wedding was, like, this after party. So it was, like, in a club. It was very, like, warm. And I knew, wearing a long sleeve.
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Jumpsuit, I had a brain.
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I knew, like, I would be warm. So I planned ahead. I brought a fan. And Ben was like, don't you want to wear something? Like, as if I have multiple options. Like, shut up.
B
As if it hadn't crossed your mind. As if you don't think about things, these things.
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You think I want to be in this, like, black tarp?
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No. So then that was right after I had Charlie and I got, like. It was very. I was also very hormonal, but I was, like, very upset. I'm like, are you. I have nothing to wear. Like, this is what I'm. Of course I know it's hot. Like, I have a brain and two eyes.
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Yeah. No, it's so annoying.
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And then the other day he said something like that again. I'm like, this is all that fits me right now.
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It's such an annoying thing to say. I totally agree.
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It's so. I feel for Olivia Colbor. If anybody said anything about her jacket, seriously, jail for you.
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And by the way, she looked amazing.
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She looked adorable. Colette was adorable on the field, kissing daddy. And he won. Of course.
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That's my team right there. I know as a 49ers fan, I'm quite used to it.
B
Yeah. But, you know, like, for her first game.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. And she was breastfeeding in the suite. Like, slay.
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No such a sleigh. And then also, Travy got fined yesterday for an obscene gesture during the game. I believe that at one point.
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Was this a gesture?
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I think he went like this, like, you know, like, did he stuck out on that? Yeah.
A
That is obscene.
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Yeah. He got fined 14 grand.
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That's, like, a lot of money.
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Yeah.
A
What?
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How much? You let me watch the video. How much she finds usually cost.
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I feel like my only real reference is Mark Cuban, like, saying the F word on, like, an NBA after show and saying, like, I'm gonna say it again and double it for charity or something, like. And it was 25 grand, so got it.
B
Okay. So that's, like, just what they like to do. And where do these fines go? They should all go to charity.
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Well, I think that the network gets fined from, like, you know, the Parents Association.
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Yeah.
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Oh, and speaking of. I forgot. I wanted to share. Last week we had the conversation, like, if you were the first lady, what would your, like, nonpartisan issue be? Be. And mine would obviously be Mothers Against Drunk Driving.
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Right. And mine would obviously be reading.
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Literacy.
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Literacy. Like, increasing Library. Very Eleanor Roosevelt building out the libraries. Bringing.
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Go, Ellie. Go, Ellie.
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It's your birthday. Go, Ellie.
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Go, Ellie. Go, Ellie. Yeah, I think those are good ones.
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How people, like, know us better than we know ourselves. I know it's. It's nice, but it's.
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Yeah.
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Like. Yeah. They can obviously pinpoint the things that are important to us, but just for me, it just all feels so vast. Like, what is important to me?
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Everything.
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They're like, no. Reading.
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Yeah, reading. That's a great one.
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That is a great one. Someone should do that.
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Beef up the lie that it's been done.
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It could always be done more, of course.
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Of course. And so funny that we were talking about it, because I told you all we watch these days is Aina. It's, like, on in the background. And there was an episode where Ina goes to the White House to do, like, the garden. That was, like, Michelle Obama's thing, like, eating healthy. And I guess she planted this, like, huge vegetable garden for the community in the rose garden. And Ida went and, like, you know, chef it up with the White House. Chef.
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So cool.
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Yeah. And it was, like, kind of perfect because I was just thinking about, like, what my platform would be, and so If I, if I had to have like somebody come mothers again, I'd have like Sam Hunt come. Like you would. You would have Reese Witherspoon come?
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Yeah. I would also love to like, do some classroom readings. I think I would be really good at that.
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Of course. But like, I was thinking, like, if Ina had an episode, like, what episode would mine be? And mine would be like, yeah, it's me and Sam Hunt and Bella Hadith.
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Talking to the youths.
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Scaring straight.
B
Yeah. And that's who you would use? Not like victims, but.
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Yeah, but that's less, you know, showy, that.
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Yeah, Buzzy, I understand. Are you ready for our next story? Speaking of this, Lured is having a release party for the life of a showgirl. It is headed to theaters. If you understood that sentence, congratulations, you are a top student at Toast University.
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Yeah, Jackie's obviously having a hard time.
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With the words today. No, no, I'm saying, speaking of this, comma, lured is having a release party. If you get that sentence, you are top 5% of Toast University students.
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So we just talked about how, like, the rollout for this album has been kind of quiet. She's not doing the usual rounds and she must have heard us and she said, hold on. I'm releasing a movie in theaters in.
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Theaters October 3rd to 5th. It is a dazzling soiree only in cinemas. You'll get to see the exclusive world premiere of the music video for her new single the Fate Ophelia. That's the first single along with never before seen behind the scenes footage of how we made it, cut by cut explanations of what inspired this music and the brand new lyric videos for my new album, the Life of a Showgirl. Looks like it's time to brush off that eras Tour outfit or orange cardigan. Tickets are on sale now. Dancing is optional, but very much encouraged.
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So I want to speak openly and I want to speak freely and I don't want to hear from toxic swifties regarding this. Selling tickets to the viewing of a lyric video multiple should be a crime. A crime. I'm sorry. Like, that's crazy now.
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Like, the Better Business Bureau needs to look into this.
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I'm sorry, I don't even watch lyric videos on YouTube. Like, that's crazy. Like to make a whole filmed event in theaters for one music video behind the scenes crap that like, was left on the cutting room floor, and two lyric videos. Personally, I probably will wait till it's available on demand to watch just because, like, it's hard to get to the movies for me these days. And Like I just went to see Downton Abbey and like, I don't know if I can. It just doesn't feel like dazzling enough.
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That feels like a real movie. Exactly. Yeah.
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And I know Taylor does like there's. She has a reason for everything. And the last time she did this movie, you know, she cuts out the movie studios and it's so good for the movie theater. She works directly with amc so she's helping local theaters. We love, we love, we love. Just in terms of like the content. I'm not saying it's bad. I'm just saying for me personally, where I'm at in my life, like I will be waiting to watch it on demand.
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You're not like getting up and getting out to go see some and getting.
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Dressed in my ERAS tour outfit. I'm not.
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I do want. Of course this sounds like a big nothing burger. I do want to give her the benefit of the doubt because she's not someone that phones it in. Like there's no. It's never like, oh, this was like a nothing. Like everything is always like the most. There's so much work, there's so much thought that goes into it.
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It.
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I want to imagine that she's really undersold whatever it is. But I also a few weeks ago had seen like a tick tock video theory of a girl saying that like based on the run time of life of a showgirl. It's the same. It's pretty short like for an album. It's the same runtime as a movie. And they thought the whole album would be a movie.
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And so I thought like a visual.
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Lemonade type of thing or yeah, like Miley something beautiful, whatever.
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Miley's thing.
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Yeah, like where it's like all the songs going to even. I guess that Kelsey Ballerini album was like that where it was like five rolling up the welcome mat blended into one. It's like a movie. So when she was doing stuff in theaters, I was like, oh, so it'll be like a movie. And I do kind of have this like high expectation of that's what it will be. I mean when I hear the word lyric video, like I do feel sad, but I'm gonna give a little. I'm not going. But I feel like it. There has to be more than at this, right?
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Yeah. And by the way, I hope you're right. I'm not being a hater. I would genuinely love to be wrong. And there are theories that like there's, you know, she. The whole thing is a music video. About Travis. And then the behind the scenes is her directing Travis. I would love that. Like, maybe I would go to the theater for that, but, like, I don't know. I don't know.
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Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. It's not giving. But then I've also seen rumors that, like, she has said that the promo for Life of a showgirl is going to be, like, bigger. Most promo for an album that's ever been. So, like, I don't know if she's.
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Waiting, but it's in five days.
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I. Yeah, I don't know if she's waiting till it comes out, because I actually appreciate that. Like, don't promote something I can't listen to. Don't get me excited. Don't waste my time. Don't send me somewhere where there's nothing to consume. Like, I want to know about it when I can go and do it. So, like, maybe waiting till after the album comes out to really hit us with stuff.
A
Also, I've seen somebody pointing out that, like, the fate of Ophelia is obviously, like, a Shakespearean reference, and her first big hit love story, Romeo and Juliet, is quite Shakespearean. And this is, like, sort of the full circle. You know, she started out this hopeless romantic. She went on this crazy journey. Now the fate of Ophelia is, like, more about the love story that she ended up finding. And, like, maybe the whole movie is very Travis coded. That's what people are saying.
B
Like, maybe. But then wouldn't it be, like, the fate of Juliet if it was like.
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Well, I'm sure she'd explain why it's Ophelia, not Juliet, because, you know, Ophelia has a job, probably, and Julia doesn't.
B
Well. And Julia dies.
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Also not good.
B
Also not the way that you want to kick things off.
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You want to be.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
B
So we'll see. I'm very excited for the album. But, you know, this is what's happening, Right.
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We all are participating in different ways.
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Agreed. And she likes that. And she said that on new heights.
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She did.
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Jackie said that if you don't like it, take up with learn.
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Yeah.
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Me, not with Koji.
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Yeah.
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I love that she said that.
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Yeah. Just being like, you can participate and be crazy or not, and you're still a swifty either way.
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That's what I've been trying to tell you.
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Yeah. Like, being a swifty just means, like, liking her music.
B
Right. In which case, I've been a swifty more than half my life.
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Correct.
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Speaking of a swifty, what Number number three.
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Oh, yeah.
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Harry Styles ran the Berlin Marathon and under.
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Speaking of a Swifty.
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I know the segues are just on fire today.
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I love your segues, Jax.
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Thank you, turd. Harry Styles ran the Berlin Marathon in under three hours using a fake name. So it's funny, this headline says pop star Harry Styles. And I do feel like they have to remind us because it's like, who is. They don't say pop star Taylor Swift. They just say Taylor Swift. But who's Harry Styles these days?
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Jackie is preying on his downfall. It's insane.
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And then it starts out, English singer and songwriter Harry Styles ran the burly. Yeah, that's woof that you have to tell us who that is.
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It's kind of giving. Written by AI.
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Oh, perhaps let's look for the two dashes.
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Right.
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Ran the Berlin Marathon in under three hours on Sunday. Organizers confirmed to news agency dpa that Styles took part. He was one of 55, 000 runners taking part in the race on what is widely regarded as the fastest marathon track in the world. He finished the race in just under three hours, two hours, 59 minutes and 13 seconds.
A
Wait, a whole marathon?
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A whole marathon in two hours and 59 minutes.
A
It's crazy. Yeah.
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They said a sub three hour marathon is a coveted mark for many marathon runners. Like, he kind of crushed it.
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And a lot of people are wondering, like, how does one train for a marathon and like never be spotted, right.
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Because you have to cover a lot of ground. You can't like really do it on the treadmill.
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You can't. You need to do it out. You can do parts of it, but you need to really get outside, get out there. People are marveled. And actually, if you know Harry, you actually know he's been a runner for quite some time. There's a very famous photo of him going for a run and throwing up. And then like, obviously, like people found out where it was and built a memorial like this Harry Styles. They're up here. But like, we know he's a runner, he's a track star. I didn't know he was operating at this level. I'm glad he's using his time off productively. He's obviously not making music, but he is breaking records and that's good.
B
Yeah, yeah. No, this is like a good use of your energy and it's positive, you know, it's healthy.
A
Get out. It's very Michelle Obama coded.
B
Yeah.
A
I feel like this is great. Obviously. I just think if you're in a relationship with someone who's training for a marathon. Like, they're the worst versions of themselves. Right. Like, there's especially. He's doing it at a real elite athletic level when it comes to diet, exercise training. Like, you're just sort of 100 committed to that. I don't know if he's seeing anyone during the course of this training. I just imagine it was really hard for the person he was dating with. And I also feel like when you're training at this level and, like, you're eating, like, a lot of fruits, veggies, like you farting a lot, like you have gas and stuff. Sorry. I just feel like whoever he's been living with has been dealing with a lot.
B
I feel like that's why he's not been seen with anyone. Perhaps. And only in the last two weeks. Only in the last two weeks. Zoe Kravitz, like, she's here for the good times.
A
Right?
B
Right.
A
It's easy to show up and celebrate sub three hours.
B
Right. But when you were in the. Clocking in at six hours, clogging the toilet, she wasn't there for that part. No.
A
Oh, my God. I'm sitting cracking because it reminds me of Love is Blind UK with Ashley and the guy who's, like, really nutty about food.
B
Yeah.
A
And like, he was just, like, so strict and obviously he wasn't training for anything. But, like, men get, like, so toxic when they, like, are like that. And I just feel like Harry's kind of been in his toxic era.
B
Do you think, like, more. More people who are single do marathon stuff like this or more people who are in relationships? It's kind of like a mature relationship thing to do, but it's also, like, single.
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You have to be kind of selfish. Like, you have to prioritize your schedule and the training and the food and everything. So I don't know, I actually feel like it's kind of a single person thing.
B
Yeah.
A
Like, I just. I don't know if I could put up with somebody who was so committed to, like, this one thing that wasn't me.
B
Yeah. Yeah. It's a lot. You can't. You can't have, like, small children. So there's. There's a time in your life. There's a season, actually.
A
Emily, Margot's friend Emily is running the New York City Marathon on behalf of the Mark Schoenwetter foundation, raising money. She's almost at $10,000. If you want to donate, you should do that.
B
Yeah, Just.
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It's always a good time to donate to the Mark Schoenwetter Holocaust Education Foundation.
B
That would also be part of your platform as first lady. And it would work hand in hand with my platform because mine is books and his is books.
A
Yeah, thousand percent.
B
So we would work hand in hand. So I should tell my husband to become president.
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like that.
B
I guess you could do, like, first lady things. Even if you're, like, not first lady, but who wants you?
A
Yeah, but, like, why would anyone listen to you? Like, you're not the first lady. You're just a random lady.
B
I agree.
A
You're not first, you're last.
B
He also, Harry ran under the name Stead Sarandos. Like Ted.
A
Ted Sarandos from the CEO of Netflix. Okay, so obviously, if I'm a crazy person, it's an Easter egg, right? Harry's house movie coming to Netflix.
B
When you really think so I don't feel like. I mean, I don't know why he would be Stud Sarandos. That's so weird.
A
That's so weird. Okay, wait, I did not know that.
B
I don't think it's. He's not an Easter egg.
A
If it's a play on Ted Sarandos. Why wouldn't you do Ned? Like, it has to be. Stead is not a name.
B
Cloudy. I don't know. Like, I'm actually dumbfounded. If anybody has a theory, let us know.
A
That's the most curious part of this.
B
Yeah. Maybe he's good friends with Ted Sarandos. But, like, why? They're not the same age and, like, they're not in the same industry.
A
They're not not.
B
They're both in the entertainment industry. But, like, he's in movies and television, and Harry's in music. Like, and Harry doesn't even. He's not even like, a Taylor who, like, crosses over, had a concert dvd.
A
Like, so funny. I literally googled Ted Sarandos in the first place. Most suggested thing that came up is Ted Sarando's Harry Styles.
B
Oh, well, there we go.
A
And people are also, like, wondering.
B
Especially if he never expected to be spotted. Like, we would have never even known he ran a Stead Sarandos.
A
Yeah.
B
Like, maybe they're just boys.
A
This is really weird. Like, the Ted Sarandos thing, I can't get over.
B
Yeah.
A
Huh.
B
Curious.
A
Extremely.
B
Are you ready for our fourth story?
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B
Blueberry.
A
He's. Yeah, he loves blueberry. He does.
B
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Okay, put her on.
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B
They want you to say it like that.
A
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B
He's having office hours, so I put.
A
It on my Instagram and everybody was like, it's the best chair. But everybody was saying it's the blowout chair. Something about the way that they're sitting up, like, really just moves the poop up. Okay, so you need a diaper that's on the offensive, not on the defense.
B
I understand. Okay. Good thing we have Huggies.
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B
Thank you, Terry.
A
You're welcome.
B
Our next story is a little update on something that we were speculating about last week. Not really an update, but just like more pictures emerging. Nina Dobrev and Zac Efron like, looking more like a little feel something on their European yacht vacation. So, Nina, so everyone was in Europe.
A
This weekend for a wedding yes.
B
And, like, I think Nina, Zach, like, and the tellers, like, they arrived together, like, on their yacht.
A
Yeah. I think they, like, made a trip of it. Right? They did, like a week long yacht trip because it was at Hotel Du Cap.
B
Yes.
A
It looked sick. I was trying to figure out who the people are. I couldn't figure it out. They had Coldplay playing at the reception. Like, it was insane.
B
Yeah.
A
Everyone was there. I have no clue who these people were. Looked sick. And yes, we did get additional photos. And I feel like, you know who was there.
B
I feel like Juliet Porter. Did you see her there?
A
Yes, she was there.
B
I said, go, Juliet.
A
Go, Juliet.
B
Check. Yes, Juliet.
A
We'd love to see girls from reality TV doing big things and toast co.
B
Hosts doing big things.
A
Of course. Of course. We need to get her back. Maybe for your maternity leave. Just ask her about the wedding.
B
Yeah, no, she's kind of like, everywhere, all the time.
A
She's fabulous. So I feel like we're watching the Zac Efronina Dobrev thing in real time. Like, we don't have answers yet because it's still actively happening. Like, with each photo I see of them, he's more and more dazzled by her. In these most recent photos, like, he's straight up giddy.
B
Yeah. No, he's, like, literally looking at her, like, so intently. It's like, lovingly. Back off.
A
Yeah.
B
Jill and I think we don't have answers yet because, like, neither do they. They're just sort of getting to know each other. And I don't think she minds the fact that. Fact that, like, Sean is seeing this.
A
It'S huge for the whole, you know, getting back at your ex thing.
B
But did you also see the pictures of, like, her and Kelly, like, cuddling up and looking clearly having a moment? Yeah, like. Like looking like it was a heartbroken best friend being heartbroken.
A
Yeah. There's a lot of paparazzi. I feel like I'm on the boat. Like, I literally know between, like, Kelly always shares a lot on social media, which is great. That's why we love her. Then all the paparazzi pictures, I basically feel like I'm there. So, yeah, obviously, like, there was a crash out and maybe, like, Kelly pulled her for a chat to be like, what do you think of Zach? And instead of, like, it being a fun and exciting conversation, she couldn't help but, like, talk about the hurt of allegedly being cheated on by Sean White.
B
She's just like, I'm not ready. Like, sure, he's great, but, like, I'm I'm not there yet.
A
He also is in his bleach blonde era. Bleachella. I'm not obsessed with it. I can't lie.
B
Me neither.
A
On any man. I don't think any man looks better as a. Because they all do it, like, for fun. Right? I don't think any of them look better. I saw a conspiracy theory on Tick Tock that Chris. Which Chris was it? The one who's married to the commoner Chris Evans, that for the last few years, anytime he's been seen publicly, he's wearing a lace front wig. This girl I follow on Tick Tock, like, broke it down. And honestly, like, he definitely got hair plugs because you can see the evolution of his hairline receding, receding, receding, and then full. And then they said a few years after that he actually just switched to a lace front wig, which is a crazy accusation, allegedly.
B
Why wouldn't he just get like, the full plug?
A
He did. He did.
B
Okay, so why does he need a way.
A
And then I think maybe like, the plugs didn't take in the way that they wanted him.
B
Or while we wait for the plugs to develop. Because it does take months.
A
No, no, because the plugs did develop and then you see his hairline literally come back. His forehead gets smaller. And then they said he switched to a lace front. I. I don't know. But back to what I was saying. Every man does like a bleach ella era and it's like, fun. But I don't think any of them, like, ever look better bleach than they do not ble. And Zach Efron has been like, going back and forth bleach for a couple of years.
B
Yeah. I don't know why he can't settle in his look. Like your hands naturally.
A
He can't quit the bleach. No, but it's everything.
B
It's also like the facials, like, he does a lot. And you're naturally handsome guy. Like, you could stop it.
A
It's true. He's kind of like, plagued with like, the top.
B
He's like body dysmorphia. Like, sad to see he does.
A
Zach, you're extremely handsome. Just leave it alone.
B
Leave it alone. And yeah, and like, you were like, buff and like your aging craz.
A
Like, just stop.
B
What are you doing?
A
Put the hair dye down and back away from the city.
B
When he looks in the mirror, he doesn't see what we see, which is a beautiful man.
A
He does not see. I feel like when you get so famous at, like, the peak of your youth as, like, a young teenage heartthrob, you do spend the rest of your life, like, chasing that high and that look, and that must be, like, a toxic thing for a man or a woman. So I'm sympathetic, but I'm here to tell you, Zach, and I would tell you if you weren't like, you're still hot. Leave it alone.
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go easy on yourself.
A
Let up. Like, you're so cute.
B
He's so cute.
A
And maybe now, like, with his brother popping off like, his younger brother, that must, like, maybe be, like, hard for him. I don't know.
B
No way. He's definitely, like, he's taken his brother this far, I think, to see his brother then, like, go and do it on his own. Like, I think he would be happy for him.
A
With Russia Shunna being on Tuesday, Wednesday, we are gonna have to save our Dancing with the Stars recap for Thursday.
B
Okay.
A
Oh, wait. And what does that mean for the fate of the dtq?
B
Let's see how things go. The fate of the dtq, greater than.
A
The fate of Ophelia, remains to be seen, actually.
B
Are you ready for our fifth and final story? A little fashion news.
A
Okay.
B
Nike Skims sets their launch date for September 26th. So. So a while back, we reported that Nike and Skims are not doing just a collab. They're doing a line together called Nike Skims. No space in between.
A
And such a bad name.
B
They were actually supposed to launch in the spring, and apparently they had delays after a series of missteps under the former chief executive officer, who has now been replaced. Now Nike Skims is ready to launch. They are launching on September 26th. They have, like, over 50 pieces. Like, this is not just, like, a drop. This is.
A
And what is it like, Athleisure?
B
Yeah, it's like this skims look, but, like, Nike branded.
A
But, like, for workout clothes is. That's what I'm saying.
B
For, like, all categories. Like, yeah, Athleisure, workout, sweats, everything.
A
Yeah, got it. Skims doesn't put out anything that's bad. Right. Like, and also, Nike is Nike, and I feel like if Kim was ever going to get into, like, the Athleisure game, which is so oversaturated, like, her doing it with the biggest and the baddest, it's going to be fab. I forgot about this announcement. I personally wasn't, like, waiting around for the drop, so my life remains unaffected. I probably won't get anything unless, you know, they want to send me something be are. But Cool.
B
Yeah, cool. I think it'll be cute stuff. I. As you said, it's always cute stuff. Kim's been going through a lot of, like, business changes recently, like, on the low. Did you also see she's not a part of Sky Ventures anymore?
A
And are they still going to call themselves Skakai? Are they going to drop the extra K?
B
I don't know. Are they even going to have a venture? They were, like, set out to raise a billion dollars. They only raised, like, a hundred million. And they only invest in one company, Truff, which was a company before Skakai.
A
Right. And they didn't make it that much bigger. I feel like I've actually been seeing it less since she invested.
B
So weird. That was, like, a huge story that was set to, like, change the industry. And then, as we reported, Skakin gone.
A
She also made a lot of waves over the weekend, her and Chris, because a couple of clips from Kanye's documentary were leaked. And I don't know where is our. Is documentary out or just these clips. I don't know anything about it, but there were a couple of really kind of crazy clips between Kanye and Kim and Kanye and Chris.
B
I saw the one between Kanye and Chris.
A
Sorry. Chris is a queen. The clip only proves it. Like, she's just. She's a queen.
B
Yes. She's very patient, very loving.
A
Right. And I don't know, she's just doing her best.
B
Yeah. I. I wonder, like, in what context that clip is in the documentary, which I've obviously no interest in watching, but it's like, was that meant to make her look bad?
A
No, it wasn't. And I think that, like, everybody's like, look, she's so great. Like, it makes her look great.
B
Right. But was it like when he said, like, in, you know, what is he saying about that moment in that documentary? He's right.
A
He's screaming at her, being like, you know, like.
B
And. Yeah, right.
A
Like, your family is responsible. Everyone. Like the Kardashian curse, basically. Like, right?
B
No, but also that, like, she wants him, like, on medication. She put him in a hospital because he's mentally ill. You're welcome. And, like, he's saying, like, that. That he'd rather be dead than do those things. So in the documentary, if he's doing, like, voiceover or whatever, like, is he still maintaining, like, that's how he feels.
A
Right. What's like, the wind up? I don't know.
B
Someone would have to watch the documentary for any of us to know that. And I don't know.
A
And it ain't gonna be me.
B
It's not gonna be me either, for obvious reasons, but. Yeah. Just taken out of context. Yeah. She looks like a very patient, loving person. I don't know if that was the intended effect.
A
No. But slay another win in Chris's column. First she gets this Big Mac cosmetics campaign. I don't know if you saw that.
B
Yes, I did.
A
And now she's a hero.
B
Yeah. I didn't see the clip with Kim, what was happening there.
A
He was yelling at her, too, you know, and she's crying. Like, it was just sad. Yeah. And it makes you realize, like, how much worse it was behind the scenes. And, like, Kim and Chris and the whole family, like, they're such queens. I'm sorry, like, for never one, like, speaking ill of him saying anything because, like, he gave him plenty of reasons. More so than I think we could have ever.
B
Yeah. In addition to the ones that we do know.
A
Right. Like, the kids stuff, the public stuff, the text messages, all that.
B
The Nazi stuff.
A
Right. Peepee poo poo.
B
Yeah. Peepee poop is nothing. That was, like, a fun time.
A
Yeah.
B
Compared to what came next.
A
So those were the stories. And you know what? I actually really enjoyed them. I can't tell if the stories were great or I just had so much fun doing it because we were together.
B
We're great. Great.
A
Yeah. Hugh, I feel like that's kind of the Every episode of the Toast where the story is great or were we great?
B
It's like a classic chicken and egg situation.
A
Sometimes the stories are great and, like, we're fine. Sometimes the stories are great and we're great. Sometimes the stories are terrible, and we're great, and sometimes the stories are terrible, and so are we. And, like, that's just human, you know?
B
Yeah, we're humans. I think that's a fair assessment.
A
It's a great takeaway from today's episode.
B
And we have to give grace to ourselves. But not today, because we crushed it.
A
100 today. Marked safe.
B
This is our last show of the Jewish year. So I'll see you next year. Next year, Koji.
A
No, I'll see you in, like, an hour.
B
Yeah. On FaceTime. But I'll see you in this capacity next year. And, yeah, now I am just sitting like this. Like, if anyone was like, oh, you're sitting different. Yeah, I am. Okay.
A
Yeah. When we opened up the show and you were like, when I, like.
B
I'm like, man spreading. Yeah.
A
That's at some point in pregnancy, that is the only way to sit.
B
Yeah. Well, first of all, it's like, better for my circulation. I'm. I'm much more comfortable. So that's just. It is what it is, you know? And I. I know you all understand, and I know you would never tell me that I look like I'm gonna be warm in that.
A
No, we wouldn't dream of it.
B
I actually feel like sometimes people would say that, but, like, I just want you to know, like, it's not a harmless comment. No, it's full of harm.
A
And when you've, like, grown up hating your arms specifically, and everybody's like, why don't you just take your jacket off? Why don't you just throw yourself off a roof? Like, please. Are you kidding?
B
No. It's so crazy, insane. As if, I don't know. Like, as if. As if I can't handle my business.
A
As if I don't have the weather app. Like, please.
B
So infuriating. Let's end on a positive note. Happy year. I hope it's a sweet one.
A
It's a sweet one. It's a sweet one. Thank you guys so much for listening to the CH Lonnie Morning show where we deliver the Fast 5 stories that you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So if you're watching this on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe and give this video a thumbs up. We're also available as podcast anywhere. Podcast can be found so Spotify, itunes, Stitcher public radio. I already cast box all the places web podcast. My not so toasty 5 star review about a beautiful but a stunning about how talented we are.
B
Love you, bye. Leave a message.
Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry
Date: September 22, 2025
This lively Monday episode of The Toast features sisters Jackie and Claudia chatting about the upcoming Jewish holidays, their approach to fasting (or not), recent life events, quirky home features (hello, built-in dog crate), and a breakdown of weekend pop culture headlines. As always, the episode is rich with the Oshry sisters’ signature candidness, humor, and relatable tangents—from sourdough fails to the woes of open-concept kitchens.
"I'm nursing. I don't have to fast. I literally can’t." —Claudia (01:26)
"I am so looking forward to [turning my phone off]. I'm so sick of my phone. It’s making me sick from the inside out." —Jackie (02:26)
"Open concept kitchens, low key, suck. By the time everybody arrives, everything has to be clean… Bring back walls. Build the wall." —Claudia & Jackie (19:31-19:44)
"We found a huge flaw… Ben has been following ChatGPT for sourdough… They completely left out that step." —Claudia (05:58)
"We dropped a Patreon on Friday all about weddings... I think we've got a part two coming..." —Jackie (08:20)
"I just want to clear the air. Like, I have no connection... There's no conspiracy." —Claudia (12:31)
“Did every influencer get a mini Kelly today?” (14:00)
“People are always making the most out of the space under the stairs.” —Claudia (16:48)
“Low key, everyone’s sleeping on the Gap.” —Claudia (09:19)
The latter half spotlights signature "fast five" pop culture stories, seamlessly interspersed with personal anecdotes and commentary:
“It’s so crazy because I see her and I’m like, how does she look like that? And for her, she hates herself… How are we living on the same planet?” —Claudia (32:03)
"Selling tickets to the viewing of a lyric video should be a crime... Like, Better Business Bureau needs to look into this." —Claudia (38:15)
“If it’s a play on Ted Sarandos, why wouldn’t you do Ned? Like, it has to be—Stead is not a name.” —Claudia (48:08)
"Skims doesn't put out anything that's bad... Nike is Nike... It's going to be fab." —Claudia (61:08)
"Sometimes the stories are great and, like, we’re fine. Sometimes the stories are terrible and we’re great… That's just human, you know?" —Claudia (64:57)
On fasting and motherhood:
“I'm just straight up not fasting... I’m responsible for feeding a growing human being.” —Claudia (01:52)
On home design:
“Bring back walls. Build the wall. I love your walls, house.” —Claudia & Jackie (19:41-19:44)
On wedding friendships:
“She’s everybody's biggest cheerleader. Everything she puts into the world, she gets out...” —Claudia (07:53)
On influencer conspiracy:
“Did every influencer get a mini Kelly today?” —Instagram comment read by Claudia (14:00)
On wardrobe commentary:
“Why don’t you just take your jacket off? Why don’t you just throw yourself off a roof? Like, please.” —Claudia (66:06)
True to form, this episode seamlessly blends pop culture updates, Jewish holiday commentary, and candid, often hilarious rants about everything from kitchen layouts to TikTok drama. Jackie and Claudia’s authenticity and rapport continue to be The Toast’s main ingredient—offering listeners a feeling of insider access to their family, friendships, and unvarnished opinions. As always, they end with gratitude for their audience and each other—promising more relatable content after the holidays.
For more Toast, follow Jackie & Claudia on Patreon for extra episodes—wedding Q&A part two is coming soon!