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Good morning, girlies.
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It's the Toast.
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It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host.
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It's your favorite show.
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The best five things you need to know.
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We'll start your day off swirly. It's the Toast.
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They sound amazing.
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Welcome back to the Toast and happy Tuesday. Big day for the DTQ for me and I guess for you, too.
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Why for you?
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So many things.
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I'm looking at your sweater. Is it a sign of anything?
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No, no, I don't have my period. I saw Ramona Singer on the way to work this morning.
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I saw that you saw Ramona Singer on the way to work this morning. Are you guys in a place where you say hello?
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You know what?
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Of course they are.
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We do text. The thing about Ramona Singer, she's like your best friend's mom, right? She's like your best friend's mom who you've met a thousand, actually. Your best friend's dad. You've met her a thousand times. She will never remember. You're like. And I could go over. She looked to be in a rush, and I was just, like, enjoying the New York moment. You know, I didn't need to make it more than it was. I was also kind of in a hurry. And if I had went over and been like, yeah, you know, we just texted, like, about the toast. And, like, I'm friends with Avery. Like, if Avery was with her, like, I would have said hi, because Avery's, like, the girl, the young daughter that remembers. But I just wasn't in the mood to, like, have to explain myself. Do you know what I mean?
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I understand. I understand.
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No, but I literally texted with Ramona not two months ago, and she wanted to come on the toast, but we couldn't make it work while I was on maternity leave.
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Yes, she was going to come on and co host with me. And our schedules just, like, didn't align between, like, New York and Florida. Rats. But, yeah, we're all best friends. We're all best friends.
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We're all best friends who don't say hi to each other. This treat, which is so real.
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Which is what real friends do. Correct.
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Now it's also a big day for me because today Ruby's five months old, which, like, obviously good happy for him, what that signals to me. And every time somebody asks, like, how old is your baby? I think, oh, how long have I been breastfeeding? Not me making it to five months. Like, I just. Good for me pat myself on the back. Things I did that no one's sort.
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Of like, Making it to five months easily.
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Yeah. Kind of slaying my way to the fifth month mark.
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Like just sort of picking my head up and it's been five months. Not even like even trudging towards it. Like, I gotta hit this milestone. It's petering out. No, like, yeah, things she's doing. Breastfeeding for five months. Didn't even realize.
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And just for anyone wondering, like an update where I'm at, I'm sort of at this crossroads. Let me explain. There are two paths diverging in a yellow wood.
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Breastfeeding.
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And I will take one of these paths. I would like to make it to six months. One more month. I can do it for sure. And at the six month mark, I am either going to stop and be the skinniest, most toxic you've ever met in your life. Like literally going to Dr. Geezy to get my Ozempic, my filler and my Botox all in one day. Then I'm getting a steroid shot in my coccydinia, in my tailbone finally. And then I'm also getting my thumb fixed. I don't know what's wrong with my thumb, but there's something wrong. I'm doing it all in one day. And I'm gonna be the most annoying person you've ever met in your entire fucking life. Or I'm gonna see this thing all the way through and my baby's like never gonna have formula. Like you're kind of slay like that.
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For the year for.
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Yeah, I'm gonna take it all the way. No, I'm not unhappy doing that, but I am unhappy at like my current body. So we'll see, we'll see. I, you know, set off in the comments, which one should I do?
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I mean, every woman has to make that decision. Like get into the best shape of my life, continue breastfeeding and then also get pregnant.
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Right, right again. So you know what? I'm gonna leave most things up to the comments. Like I do usually.
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You know what, you never know, like something might happen. It might naturally present itself with the answer. Like, I remember with Charlie, I wanted to breastfeed for six months and then I wanted to like snatch back to reality and he started biting me anyway. And so I was like. And so for that reason, I'm out.
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Let me tell you something, I'm starting to get bit. Oh no. Really? It's really not cool. And like you can't like yell at a baby, but it's like, stop, no.
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And you can't like get them to Understand to stop.
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Right. There's no, like, punishment. So I just either need to, like, put up or shut up. Oh, no.
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That's like, that tread.
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Oh, no.
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My baby's breast biting me. I can't breastfeed anymore and I have to take Ozempic. You should do that one.
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Write it down.
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That's a good one. I think women everywhere will relate.
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We're such relatable women.
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I mean, I think that we are. I think that's part of our charm.
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That was in person. So that's why it's a big day for me. That's why it's a big day for me. And of course, in lieu of gifts, please send donations to both me personally and the Mark John Wyner Holocaust Education Foundation. Will do.
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I I thanks.
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How are you? Why is today, is today a big day for you for any reason?
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No, just another day that I got.
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Up huge, by the way, got dressed.
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Did my makeup, getting harder and harder. I, I can't even describe it. I know one day I will forget what I'm experiencing right now. Never experienced it in other pregnancies where I can't move. I'm just in so much pain in my other regions, in my undercarriage when.
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I. I can't need a little bit of pelvic floor.
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Physical therapy, I probably do, but I can't make it there now. You know, I'm not even driving myself anymore. I'm not driving alone anymore just because there's just too much pain.
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Too much. I agree.
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And so I can't focus on the road, unfortunately.
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Well, you look gorgeous.
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Thank you. So, yeah, just like, getting myself dressed, like, putting my legs through my pants is extremely hard.
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Listen, I get it. I think putting legs through pants, like, not pregnant, is kind of a hard thing to do anyway, so I can imagine what it's like for you.
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Super grateful for the bench at the end of my bed. Like, it was meant to be a dressing bench. And for putting on shoes and for putting on pants. And now is living life. It intended.
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Love that.
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Yeah. So that's the major milestone today is I put on pants.
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It's also a big day for the dtq. We have Dear Toasters. They're hilarious. I was giggling while choosing them. So it's kind of a great day for everyone. It's also just a great day to be a toaster.
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Yeah. I think every day that we do our show and even days that we don't do our show, because if, if you are a toaster, then you're the elk. Of a toaster and you're having a great day, but because you're a fabulous.
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Girl, you know, so funny. Jackie and I were talking yesterday. There's somebody I know who's, like, dealing with something, and I really want to recommend to them to, like, start listening to the toast, which just, like, sounds so obnoxious, cuz, like, oh, you're have. You're sad. Like, listen to my podcast. But, like, people tell us all the time that, like, when they were going through a hard thing or they were, like, dealing with grief, that they listen to the podcast. It was, like, a great hour a day to, like, lift their spirits and, you know, take their mind off of things. And, like, I wanted to recommend it, but, like, how do you recommend your own podcast without sounding like an animal?
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You don't.
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Okay, okay.
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Damn.
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Okay.
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You don't. But I do think that I was.
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Doing it completely selflessly.
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No, I understand. And, like, it's part. It's not even just because we're hysterical and fabulous. Like, it's about the community nature of it. Like, every day that there's something an hour a day to take your mind off. And I think it just helps people, like, put one foot in front of the other and just to have some routine that they can come to, like, rely on in the sisterhood. Of course, there's always sisterhood. And we would never say, screw sister.
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We would never screw sisterhood.
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But I do think, like, if she is in a swirly orbit, we will find our way to each other. Yeah.
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I think maybe, like, it's on someone else to recommend it to her, not me.
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That's exactly what it is.
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But I just know, like, I know it would help. I do.
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You can't do anything about it. You write her an anonymous letter.
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This isn't a relatable problem, you know?
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No, but.
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Okay, I thought maybe, like, we could come up with a solution, but you're right. There's, like, no good way to recommend your own podcast, even when you mean it so earnestly.
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Yeah, there's no good way. So.
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All right. Control. Z.
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How's New York treating you? Speaking of.
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Oh, it's such a gorgeous day. It's like, I stepped outside and I was like, it's that crisp weather, like, makes me just, like, miss my vape, you know, I just want to, like, cuddle up on the couch with my vape.
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Yeah. And your. And your breast pump.
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Yeah, right. Me and my. And you know what? I. Because I've been thinking somebody had asked me this, like, are you Gonna, like, vape again when you can. Like, you're not gonna be breastfeeding, you're not gonna be pregnant. Like, are you gonna vape? And I think for a while I thought that I would. But you know what? It's literally a miracle that I quit. And if I go back, it will be a lifelong thing. I will be on and off my whole life. I need to never touch it again.
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Yeah, there's no.
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I just, like, loved that error. There's no point. I just loved that era so much.
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And you can.
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I also didn't like it. I also didn't like it. People don't talk about, like, the pitfalls of vaping, like, while it's great, like always, like, losing your vape. And then like sometimes like you get a puff that like, gives you anxiety, you know, you're like, wait, you're like starting to tweak a little bit and then it goes away. Like it wasn't all good, you know. It's also expensive because I used to buy them by the cartons online.
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Yeah. It's a time and a place. We'll always have the memories.
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We'll always have, like the cute pictures of us in our vapes. But you're right. Like, we'll just start smoking cigarettes.
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Yeah. Go hard or go home.
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Yeah. But no, like, I think I've officially closed the chapter on that. Like, I don't think I'll go back, like, ever.
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I think that's good. It would literally be pointless.
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Like, you're. Well, I would have fun, which is always good.
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But you can have fun without vaping turdy.
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But, like, you really can't.
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Like, I know.
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You can't have that much fun, you know.
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Yeah, well, but I'm not doing it dabble. I know.
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If I could just be a normal person who like, you know, just found like, has one in her going out bag and only when she drinks.
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When she drinks.
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Yeah, but I can't because then you have one in your growing out bag. You have it when you're drinking, then you wake up and you rummage through that going out bag and start vaping at 6 in the morning.
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No, no, no.
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That's officially. I'm closing the chapter.
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Okay, good. I thought we did five years ago.
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But no, it was open, like once I was out of like the no go zone. It was like an option, but I don't think it's an option for me.
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Good, I'm glad to hear it. And stay in school. Also depends on the school. And also depends on the person. You know, everyone learns differently.
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So true. I mean, I can't go having this conversation again. But let's just all remember, like, the smartest kids in school are, like, now sometimes making the least amount of money. Like, it literally means nothing.
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Yeah. Yeah. And you know, what about a trade school?
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Bring back blacksmithery.
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Yeah. Skills.
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Bring back welding.
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Practical skills. We're all going to be replaced by AI.
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I don't think the welders will. Honestly, I don't think the podcasters will. Definitely not.
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Famous last words. But you know what? You guys, like, they could try. If AI can make a better podcast than us, like, serious, then we could enjoy it. We could listen to it.
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I. I welcome the challenge.
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Yeah. Sounds hysterical.
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And rising tides rise. All shots. You know, like, then we have to level up.
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Yeah.
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We have amazing stories today. Don't you feel like there's just, like, a lot of, like, funny things going on?
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There are. I think, again, I have breaks, and I'm gonna. I'm gonna see where the wind takes us in terms of conversation.
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No press.
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No press. Let's get into them, shall we?
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Thank you, Slash Audio.
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You're welcome.
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Our first story. Pains me to say, but good guys are making news in the first spot today.
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I feel sick.
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And you told us, you warned us that they had a very newsmaking worthy podcast which they had John Simos on, which is always newsworthy. But he spilled major tea for the GGs.
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Yeah. And you know, sometimes Ben finds himself at like the crossroads of huge pop culture. I always come and he has no idea. But when he got home from this interview, he was like, no, I'm telling you, like, it was crazy. So I knew the fact that Ben was, like, conscious, aware and like enough to acknowledge where he found himself. I was like, oh, this is going to be good. And you know what? It's huge news.
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Yeah. So John Stamos is blasting St. Lori Laughlin's terrible narcissist, racist ex, Massimo GM newly after shocking split. So we had reported a few weeks ago that Lori Laughlin and Massimo are divorcing. In the last few weeks, some stuff has come out. The rumor mill is saying that she found some, like, incriminating stuff on his phone. But now John Stamos is adding more color to their relationship and painting it in a light that I just did not see. So she he blasted Lori's estranged husband Massimo as a narcissist who masterminded the couple's 2019 college admission scandal. He said, 40 years I've known her. You can see through people after a few years. This woman's a saint. I'm just heartbroken for her right now. I really tried to be there for her during the divorce and also with the college scandal. I'm not going to debate whether she had much to do with it or not. I know she didn't. She goes to prison for this for three months. He said he prayed that he hoped that she would get, that he would get help with whatever hole he's trying to fill, whatever negativity or hardships that you've been through in your life is connected to this guy. You know, I mean, while he refused to talk about the alleged infidel reality, he did say that Lori put up with a lot over the years. So.
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You know what I always think about how, like, it was the women who went to prison in the college admission scandal. Felicity Huffman, not her husband.
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Willie Meech.
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Yeah, I was gonna say William Defoe. That's not his name. William H. Vac. Laurie. But it did also make sense that, like, you know, the mothers would be more involved in getting their kids into college. Dads tend to take a back seat with, like, academics. But it also was like a low key criminal thing. So you would think, like, the husbands would have been more involved. I'm not sure. So this kind of reaffirms some thoughts. Like, I. I had had that, like, even if it was Lori at the helm, like, wouldn't the father sort of like, fall on his sword? Like, he's the one who goes to prison. Like, prison is for men, you know.
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It'S not for girls. Yeah, no, it does raise a good point. But now he's also saying not only did she, like, like, take the blame for the family, but it wasn't her do it. Like, it wasn't her idea. And I. I could see that.
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I could see it too. And I know this is so not the point because he's happily married, but I ship, like, obviously Uncle Becky and Aunt Jesse. Aunt Becky and Uncle Jesse. Like, yeah, end game, End game. Like, John Samos needs to be Olivia Jade's stepfather, even though he's, like, so happily married. I think he just had a baby. And I'm like, no, Shade, no, no, Tino Shade. I just don't think that's your person.
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Like, no, I understand. But I also feel like Lori Laughlin, like, needs someone. I didn't even realize that, like, this is what we needed. This is what she needed. Need someone to stick up for her in this way. Like, just like a complete, like, endorsement of her character. Especially because, like, when with the college admission scandal and she went to jail and then people like, she's like, cancel.
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Character has been called into question.
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And he's like, saying, she's a saint. She's always been a saint. She took the fall for her husband who's like, that's the bad guy. And even in. Outside of the college admission scandal, like, he wasn't good to her. Like, I just feel like if I'm her. Well, actually, maybe it's Starting drama. But I just feel like she, like, needed, like, someone to be in her corner.
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Yeah. And I think, like, one thing about.
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Lori, I protect the family.
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Like, her family is everything. Like, her girls ride for her so hard. I think you could tell, like, just based on how her girls, like, talk about her, that she's an amazing mom. And so I don't think she was ever gonna break that, even in divorce. Like, she was. We were never gonna hear about this because she protects the family and shout out to John Stamos because things we needed to know this.
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Yeah. But it does, like, sort of up and, like, what Lori's trying to do, which is, like, you know, it not have her, but daughter, but, like, her daughters must know.
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They seem incredibly close.
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Yeah. Yeah. And I'm sure if there was cheating, I'm sure they do know that.
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And I hope that, like, Olivia Jade is just leaning on Jacob Elordi at this time.
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You do?
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No, I don't, actually. I. Am I crazy in saying, like, I think Olivia Jade's too good for him? So over him, it's time to move on. Who's, like, the new hot young thing that Olivia Jade should date?
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We always have this conversation, and I just might explain. Yeah. We're always talking about, like, her Glenn Powell, like, this same five people.
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Oh, Glen Powell. Right.
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A
But they're friends. You said they are friends.
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B
It's not. It's purely platonic.
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A
So, as I said, we've had this conversation.
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B
Yeah, I guess we have.
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A
Unfor.
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B
Well, all that to say, like, we ride for Laurie at dawn. Okay.
- [22:41]
A
Oh, yeah.
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B
And John, she's America's Aunt Becky.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And I really do, like, think, slash, hope that he didn't, you know, go rogue in this interview. Like, he had some sort of blessing from Lori just being like. Yeah, burn it down.
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A
I don't think he had a blessing from Lori, but I think he did what he felt was right.
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B
You know, we love a righteous person. A righteous gentile.
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A
Yeah. A righteous individual. I. I do hope, though, that he didn't make things worse for her.
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B
I don't think he would do that. I think they're actually, like, really close. Good friends.
- [23:12]
A
Yeah.
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B
And not Ben just, like, being there for all of it.
- [23:15]
A
Lish. Lish just there. Good thing you guys went to la.
- [23:22]
B
Literally, because, all right, otherwise, like, Ben would have been just, like, on Zoom, and all the articles would have left out his name because it looks like just Josh and John are on a podcast. Yeah.
- [23:31]
A
Is Ben. I'm looking for photos.
- [23:34]
B
He's in the clip. He's in the clip.
- [23:35]
A
He's in the clip. Okay, but not the stills. But that's okay.
- [23:38]
B
Well, always getting the boot. That's my husband.
- [23:41]
A
Josh isn't in the stills. Also, to be fair, it's like just John.
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B
Okay, good, good, good, good.
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A
Are you ready for our next story? Something that I know that you've really been wanting to discuss, and I actually want to talk about it as well. Kristen Bell was dragged for an unbelievably tone deaf anniversary post to her husband, Dax Shepard. So Crispin Bell over the weekend commemorated her husband's birthday, their wedding anniversary. And she said, Happy 12th wedding anniversary to the man who once said to me, quote, I would never kill you. A lot of men have killed their wives at a certain point. Even though I'm heavily influenced, incentivized to kill you, I would never heart, unquote.
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B
And then the picture is him hugging. I couldn't tell if that was like a young daughter or just a little Kristen Bell because, like, you only see the back of a blonde head. Is that a daughter?
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A
That's a little Kristen Bell.
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B
Are you sure?
- [24:34]
A
1,000%. Yeah. The two sat on the bed hugging. Yeah.
- [24:39]
B
Okay, I thought it literally. Does it not look like a toddler?
- [24:42]
A
She does look small, but she's small. That's all they kept saying in the show. Nobody wants this, that she's so. No.
- [24:46]
B
And their kids are. Are blonde.
- [24:48]
A
But also.
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B
Why would you. Sure.
- [24:50]
A
Claudia, stop.
- [24:51]
B
Are you sure? Let me just get one more look.
- [24:54]
A
Like I wasn't unsure until you asked me.
- [24:59]
B
Okay. Am I blocked by Kristen Bell? What's her Instagram?
- [25:02]
A
Kristen Annie Bell.
- [25:03]
B
Oh, okay, Annie. And that me thinking I was blocked. Jackie, this really looks like a young girl. Look how big his hand is on her.
- [25:17]
A
Stop making it weirder than it is.
- [25:22]
B
Okay. You sure are.
- [25:26]
A
I was not unsure.
- [25:27]
B
Okay, fine. So, yeah, let's talk about how unbelievably weird and unnecessary this is. And, like, you know who I blame for this? Dead ass. I want to know if you know what I'm thinking. Who do I blame for this? Come on, be my brain. Come on, you can get it.
- [25:46]
A
I don't know.
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B
Okay, I'll give you a clue. A different male celebrity.
- [25:54]
A
Who does, like, weird captions like this. Come on, just tell me.
- [26:01]
B
Van City Reynolds.
- [26:02]
A
Oh, well, look how that landed him.
- [26:05]
B
I blame Ryan Reynolds for this because, like, there was an era where Ryan Reynolds would just, like, post pictures of, like, half his wife's face and be like, happy birthday. Quirky. And everybody was like, Ah, they're so cute. And it got them, like, a lot of attention and, like, couple goals, types of things. And really, he was just, like, being annoying and rude to his wife on Instagram, and everybody, like, ate it up, ate it up. And now I feel like it's become, like, a trend. Like, you can't be sincere. Like, you have to make a joke, and, like, she's just trying to get attention and, like, be funny and quirky and obviously, like, this is weird and wrong. Not to mention it's Domestic Violence Awareness Month, and people are saying it's a really insensitive.
- [26:37]
A
A lot of people are commenting and saying, like, really? On Domestic Violence Awareness Month, which is like, yes. But also, it has nothing to do with Domestic Violence Awareness Month. Like, this would just be, like, a weird thing to say.
- [26:49]
B
And honestly, with the exception of Black History Month, like, nobody knows the months. You know, it's like, women's history. We don't give a fuck. Like, we know February is Black History Month. And besides that, like, I don't know what months are celebrating other things. And to be honest, like, I don't give a shit.
- [27:03]
A
Yeah. So I feel like that's not really fair.
- [27:05]
B
That's not. That's not a. I agree. Let's just talk about how weird it is universally.
- [27:09]
A
Yeah. I just feel like Kristen Bell and Dax Shepard, both of them have just been, like, made to feel like they can't say anything wrong, and they always say weird stuff, and they do say a lot of things, and I feel like they're always in the headlines for, like, an Instagram caption that's, like, quirky, silly, a little taboo, but they said it, and they just, like, took it way too far because they've never been stopped. And that's what happens when you go unchecked.
- [27:33]
B
Right. Because they're just sort of, like, beloved.
- [27:37]
A
Yeah.
- [27:38]
B
She did limit comments of, you know, there are 4, 500, but she's kept it up. Oh, wait, somebody commented. I'm reading the comments, and this has, like, thousands of likes. I'll be honest, until I saw it was an anniversary post, I thought he was holding one of his little girls, not us. Wondering if that's one of your daughters or if you are, in fact, that little. Okay. I'm not the only one who thought that.
- [27:58]
A
Yeah. But I think she is very little.
- [28:00]
B
Is this supposed to be funny? It is supposed to be funny. And I see people in the comments, like, pouring out their hearts, like, as a survivor of domestic violence and I have empathy. I don't Think that, like, these two things, like, she wasn't trying to hurt you.
- [28:15]
A
Yeah.
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B
It's just. It's just a bad caption.
- [28:17]
A
Yeah. It's just, like, a bad take and just, you know, losing sight of. Of the message, of the spirit of the day.
- [28:27]
B
But let's also just talk about, like, Dax Shepard as a person saying this.
- [28:31]
A
Well, Dax Shepard, like, says a lot of stuff that's true.
- [28:34]
B
It's kind of his job.
- [28:35]
A
Yeah. And, like, the thing is, people in their private lives, like, you could have a. A conversation, like, about spousal murder. And I guess when you think about it, you could.
- [28:45]
B
You could.
- [28:49]
A
So I could see him saying, like, I am highly incentivized to murder. Like, I guess there are incentive. Incentives.
- [28:55]
B
Yeah. Life insurance if she dies.
- [28:58]
A
And all of her money is his frozen money.
- [29:02]
B
So maybe it was, like, supposed to be romantic. Yeah.
- [29:06]
A
Yes. It's supposed to be romantic.
- [29:10]
B
Right. He's saying, like, even though, like, my life, I could benefit greatly from your death, I would never want that now because.
- [29:17]
A
Because I love you. Right.
- [29:19]
B
But him saying. He could have said it without being, like, the murderer. He could have said, like, I don't want you to die. Even though, like, I would become really rich like, him, like, putting himself as the murderer in this hypothetical situation, like, does give me pause.
- [29:31]
A
Well, I think he just says things, like, in an intense way for the delivery.
- [29:35]
B
Yes. But also, this was a private conversation, and I wouldn't be nitpicking it if I didn't know about it and I shouldn't know about it.
- [29:40]
A
Right. And, yeah, just the. The bringing it into the public just sort of missed the mark. But, like, I'm not someone who's like, well, she missed the mark.
- [29:51]
B
Cancel. I'm just.
- [29:53]
A
I'm just like, let's pivot for next time.
- [29:56]
B
Let's learn.
- [29:57]
A
Yeah. Like, it's not. I don't think it's, like, a huge deal, but it's becoming a big deal. And the thing is, like, the more you read a story, it's funny because the first time I saw this, I'm like, oh, she made a stupid joke for her husband's anniversary. How stupid. And then I keep seeing the story, and now the more I read the caption, I'm like, well, this is really bad.
- [30:15]
B
Yeah.
- [30:18]
A
You know, and it's just like how you get inundated with something enough times, like, you're like, well, this is a huge deal.
- [30:25]
B
Yeah, it is becoming a big deal. They are really famous, and this is just sort of like, the price of being Famous. Like, your Instagram captions get studied. Let this be a lesson to them and to all couples who are, like, annoying and, like, quirky. Like, you don't need, like, a crazy caption for your anniversary post. Like, just celebrate your anniversary in private and post a cute little collage. We'll be okay. We don't need to know everything that goes on in your house.
- [30:50]
A
Yeah. But I do think the two of them, like, together and separately feel invincible.
- [30:54]
B
Are.
- [30:55]
A
Have been invincible. Like, they. Not that they say crazy stuff all the time, but, like, that's their shtick. And they've not really been, like, brought to task. I mean, I think they're one of those couples that, like, gets, like, questioned because of how much they bathe their kids and, like, that, you know, they don't use soap.
- [31:11]
B
That was them, right?
- [31:12]
A
Yeah. And that's the sort of controversy.
- [31:14]
B
Mila and Ashton.
- [31:16]
A
It was Mila and Ashton, but it might also be them. That's the sort of controversy they're used to and that they love. This has gone, like, a little, like, further than I think they would have.
- [31:23]
B
Now we're veering into, like, Domestic Violence Awareness Month, and that's just, like, never a conversation you want to be in the bad part of.
- [31:29]
A
Right, Right. But I think they have a lot of fans and a lot of people who know their hearts, and they'll be okay. I think they'll be okay.
- [31:38]
B
They'll be fine.
- [31:39]
A
A couple that will not be okay. Our next story, shots of sunsets. Mercedes. Javid files for divorce from Tommy. Fight after seven years of marriage. Requests custody of their son, Sham.
- [31:51]
B
Okay. This story affected exactly one person. Me. I'm so upset. Obviously. I quote their wedding all the time. Keynes look sick. You look like piece of wood. But I also believed in their love. Like, if you. If you were a part of, like, the OG Shaza sense, like, you just had to be there. It was the 80s. Like, it was so crazy. And when her and Tommy found each other, he was just this, like, character. This, like, old, like, kind of cynical New Yorker. He's like a character on Sex in the City, I swear to God. And they were so different. They came from different worlds. I mean, she is, you know, from an immigrant family, Persian, finding her way in L. A. Glamazon. You know, she made her own money, had her own cars, and he was, like, this sort of, like, blue collar, rough around the edges, and they made no sense together, but they were perfect for one another. And then, like, she wanted to be a mom, and they had this Baby and she had such a crazy pregnancy and delivery and he was. Amongst other things. She literally died on the table. Like they took out all four organs. A crazy story. And they just made it through a lot of tough times and I feel like now is sort of like her golden era because the show is off. But she's this huge star from Traders. They have their baby. Like, I can't believe that now. They went through so much that now is when they're calling it off. I'm shocked.
- [33:11]
A
I'm shocked and I'm saddened. According to the documents obtained by People, she submitted her petition in LA on Friday, October 17, which also listed as their date of separation. She cited irreconcilable differences and asked that the court terminate its ability to award both at she and Tim spousal support. She further requested sole physical and legal custody of their six year old son, Shams. With Tommy receiving visitation on Tuesdays after school. I don't. Okay. I don't need to know his whole.
- [33:37]
B
Schedule, but that's like, that's interesting just because that's very little.
- [33:42]
A
It was like Tuesdays and Wednesdays and sun, like a couple hours Tuesday, Monday, Sunday. But like I'm gonna.
- [33:47]
B
Okay. Okay. Yeah. Now I think every mother like ideally goes for soul custody. Right. So I don't know if that's like supposed to be a red flag.
- [33:56]
A
Yeah.
- [34:00]
B
Yeah. So sad. Like, seriously, I'm. I'm devastated.
- [34:04]
A
Yeah, I'm sad. I. I just wonder.
- [34:07]
B
I can't remember if they announced this or I just like read it on like a Bravo something. But there is like some form of Shaw returning.
- [34:15]
A
Yeah.
- [34:17]
B
So not to be like greedy, but I would love to see this in some sort of reality format.
- [34:22]
A
Yeah. I. It sounds like, because we read that announcement like Shaws is getting like the Valley treatment.
- [34:28]
B
Right.
- [34:30]
A
What did they call it? I think they had a name too.
- [34:33]
B
Did they? Let me just look it up.
- [34:36]
A
There was like a whole announcing. Shaz is coming back. Ladies of London, we were like sitting pretty.
- [34:43]
B
The Valley, Persian style obsessed.
- [34:45]
A
Yeah.
- [34:45]
B
Gigi Reza and MJ will be navigating the next stages of their life in the Valley. The show will incorporate familiar faces from the original series alongside new cast members. Yada, yada.
- [34:53]
A
Yeah.
- [34:54]
B
So ideally. Yeah.
- [34:56]
A
Yeah.
- [34:56]
B
Well, you know what? Sad for mj, but hopefully this breathes life into this new show. Like a show needs a good scandal, like to get it started. It's always good.
- [35:03]
A
Yeah. Very surprising and very sad. But we're always rooting for mj, so whatever is best for mj is best for ourselves.
- [35:10]
B
One thing about the toast, we are always. And before, it was cool because everybody loves her. Now she, like, slayed on Traders. Excuse me. We've been standing since, like, 2014. Whatever's best for Mercedes Javid is best for me. Mercedes June. I cannot wait for that show to come back. Like, it's. Seriously, if you have. If you have the time. Star Child's the sunset from the beginning. I think it's on Peacock.
- [35:31]
A
Literally.
- [35:32]
B
There were so many eras. I mean, I can't go into my shadows of sunset like diatribe, but, like, let's we not forget Diamond Water.
- [35:38]
A
You should start a shots of Rewatch podcast. Mj.
- [35:46]
B
Happy to. I have so many thoughts. And not us being, like, personally afflicted. Remember when we had those two freaks on and they, like, yelled at us?
- [35:53]
A
Who? The siblings.
- [35:55]
B
They weren't siblings. They fought like siblings. They were a couple who there were. I don't want to say their names, but I remember it. Bobby and Asifa. They.
- [36:02]
A
Why do they yell at us when we do?
- [36:04]
B
They were on for one season, and they were just like, I don't know if they can't be still together. They were the most toxic couple. All they did was fight. And they came on the breath as, like, we used to recap shots. They came on the breath as gas. And then she sent me, like, a nasty message afterwards, being, like, I guess she hadn't seen any of our recaps, and we, like, weren't on her side. We would say that, like, her and her boyfriend are so toxic, and she'd be like, if I had seen how poorly you spoke of us, I never would have agreed to come on your show. I'm like, well, that's your fault for not doing your research.
- [36:29]
A
But also, like, that's just the name of the. Like, we're just talking about a show.
- [36:32]
B
She was, like, very new to the game, and she took it out on me.
- [36:35]
A
And the best way to get us to stop talking badly about you on the show is to, like, come on our show and, like, be super nice and disarm us.
- [36:41]
B
I mean, Danielle Stab. Margaret Josephs. I was such a Margaret hater on her first season, and Jackie was like, no, I think I like her. I'm like, no, I'm telling you, she sucks. She came on the toast. Literally. Could not have loved her more. She's one of my best friends. I talked to her every day. Yeah, Danielle Staub really wowed me. Leanne Lockin really wowed me. And these were People, I would recap, and I wouldn't be on their side, and I would have criticized. Now I cannot criticize any of them. I could, actually, but I wouldn't.
- [37:07]
A
No, but, like, you would just. You then have in the back of your mind, like, oh, this was like a nice, decent person. Like, maybe there's more to the story.
- [37:13]
B
Right. What are we not seeing exactly?
- [37:17]
A
Are you ready for our fourth story? Speaking of more to the stories, Wicked for Good casts their Cowardly Lion.
- [37:26]
B
So this was a weird story, like, the way that it rolled out.
- [37:30]
A
Yeah. They've been, like, teasing the voice of the Cowardly Lion.
- [37:33]
B
John and Chu said that there is an actor so great behind the voice of the Cowardly lion, and we're not going to reveal it until he shows up on the red carpet at the premiere. Cut to four hours later, just like a variety story being like, it's Coleman Domingo.
- [37:49]
A
It's Colman Domingo playing the Cowardly Lion.
- [37:53]
B
Now, let me say they did Coleman dirty, because now I'm like, well, Coleman isn't the greatest actor. And I'm like, kind of let down. Meanwhile, if they had just said, like, Coleman Domingo is the Cowardly Lion, I would have been like, you know what?
- [38:03]
A
That's a cool, right?
- [38:05]
B
Yeah. He has a great voice. Like, this booming voice. So now I'm just disappointed. What was with this weird rollout?
- [38:12]
A
I don't know. And, like, there are so many stars in the movie that, like, didn't get, like, a.
- [38:18]
B
And Jackie, the guesses. I was reading the comments before it came out. People were like, Sir Ian McKellen. Like, okay. It's just like, it's so weird now.
- [38:32]
A
It is weird. And it's like, it's sad for cold. Well, actually, I'm sure.
- [38:36]
B
Yes.
- [38:36]
A
But it, like, it's definitely like a, you know, with a whimper.
- [38:41]
B
Yeah. Because objectively, like, if. If we were reporting on this, I would say, you know what? That's actually like, an A plus cast.
- [38:46]
A
Yeah.
- [38:46]
B
I would have loved it.
- [38:47]
A
And my tone would have been like, Coleman Domingo's playing the cowardly line. Like, no. Like, hype.
- [38:52]
B
Yep.
- [38:52]
A
No disappointment. It's just.
- [38:54]
B
That's really good.
- [38:55]
A
It's just fact. Yeah. Now there is a gap between expectation and announcement. Because really, who could have lived up to that hype?
- [39:06]
B
And John M. Chu, like, kind of needs to be, like, reprimanded for this. Like, he needs to be told, like, that was bad. If I'm Coleman, like, I'm actually mad because now we're all. We're not clowning on Coleman but we're just like, oh, Coleman.
- [39:18]
A
He's like, Coleman Domingo.
- [39:21]
B
It's Coleman Domingo.
- [39:24]
A
Don't you feel like Coleman Domingo's kind of like always finding himself in that situation, though, where it's like his presence, it's like, meant to be. I felt that way. He was in the Supreme Carpenter music video, and everyone's like, he was? Yeah. In the one that she. For her new album.
- [39:39]
B
Oh, I don't think I saw it, man.
- [39:41]
A
Was it Man Child. I forget one of the singles. He's in the music video and everyone's like, it's Coleman Domingo in the music video. I'm like.
- [39:49]
B
And everybody talks about Colman Domingo and they don't talk about him in four seasons, which I don't even know if I ever spoke about because it was one of my postpartum shows. I loved it. And he was the best part was. It's the best show.
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A
It's a great show part.
- [40:02]
B
He's the best part.
- [40:04]
A
I know you liked his husband, but I did. I'm Coleman.
- [40:08]
B
Yeah. And so, like, they talk about the great works of Coleman. They never talk about Four Seasons. He was in Euphoria.
- [40:13]
A
So that's me. Oh, he's not the dad, Claudia. He's the same sponsor.
- [40:18]
B
Oh, yeah. Why did I think it was her dad?
- [40:22]
A
I don't know, but I saw in the comments.
- [40:24]
B
Well, that's why he's never in the show, because Rue is like, never on the program.
- [40:27]
A
Yeah. So, no, I didn't watch Euphoria. So I've. I've arrived at Coleman late.
- [40:32]
B
Yeah.
- [40:35]
A
But anyways, he's a cowardly lion.
- [40:38]
B
And that's great. Like, just outside of all the noise, like, it's a good casting. Inside all of the noise, it's like w. W. Yeah.
- [40:46]
A
Yeah. And does he sing?
- [40:50]
B
Definitely.
- [40:50]
A
Definitely. Definitely. Are you ready for our fifth and final story?
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B
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A
Sting.
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B
Yeah. Not me getting a console table. What do you know?
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A
I'm concerned.
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B
What do you know about console? I am consoling now with the holidays approaching. All of your needs for hosting, toasting and roasting. Wayfair and yes, shop. Holiday decor for every room in the house. Whether you're looking for Christmas trees, wreaths. I love that ad copy is getting holiday.
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A
You know, we're here, we made it.
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Thank you, Koji.
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You're welcome.
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Our fifth and final story. Co we're gonna call this section Koji's Architectural News.
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Oh, my God. Who's following 432Park? I've been following it. I'm following a little bit more closely now since, like, major publications are writing about it. But I've been here since the beginning. Now, I know you guys are gonna say, like, well, I don't live in New York. Why would I care about. Trust me, this is the craziest saga.
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Yes. So there is a building in New York that was built how long ago?
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2015, say 10 years. Okay.
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Yeah. So, like, we were all there when it was being built, and it's like, it really.
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When it was being built, it was being talked about a lot for a multitude of reasons. One, because it was going to be the tallest building in the city. It's the same height as the Empire State Building. So we're like, oh, wow, that's cool. But this was going to be residential. People were going to live there. All these tall buildings in the city, Empire State Building, Chrysler Building, their office buildings.
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And it's also more uptown. So when you see the skyline, like, when you're coming into the city, like, all of the really big skyscrapers are sort of concentrated more downtown and, like, below 34th Street. But this is, like, stands alone. It's a concrete building that's like 1 solid 15 by 1 ratio throughout. Whereas, like, the Empire State Building, like, tapers off. The other buildings, like shapes of skyscrapers.
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Are intentionally pointed at the top aerodynamically. They have to be to let wind pass through. That's why every building is like a big, tall antenna I've ever seen, like, the Burj Khalifa, like, they're all pointy. It's not for aesthetics, it's for aerodynamics. This one was like, we have figured out we don't have to be pointy. We're going to be just as tall as the Empire State Building. But the last, like, 10 or 15 stories of the Empire State Building are just like, A tall antenna. So it's like kind of. They're like, no, we're going to be a perfect rectangle. They are square on top, they're flat on top, and it's like a Lego. How are you going to do that aerodynamically? They're like, well, we've cracked the code. The way this building is built, it's like every 10 or 15 floors, it's completely open. So they're like wind passes through. It's just columns and open air. So the wind passes through. Like we're not going to sway. We're going it to make. Meanwhile, the second people moved in, there have been insane issues in this building. People say it sways. Okay, they're just in their apartment and it's swaying. Yeah, people say that in the trash chute. If you don't live in an apartment building in New York, every floor has a trash. You got to throw your trash out. You take the garbage and you throw it down the chute and it's basically just like a. That goes. But this building is so big and so unstable. They say that every time somebody throws trash down the chute, it sounds like a bomb going off when it reaches the bottom. Like, oh my God. This building has been insane, insanely riddled with issues. But now the New York Times has done like a full investigation because some residents are saying that the building is cracking on the outside.
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Yeah, but the foundation, you can see it's full of cracks. Some engineers fear that chunks of concrete could start to fall down onto sidewalks if $160 million renovation isn't undertaken. Also I saw that like. So in order to make like the concrete, they use like a bunch of different materials. But they wanted to add the facade of the building to be like, to be white, to be a lighter concrete. So they didn't use some of the darker colored concrete materials, which are like the ones that would provide necessary better for the structure.
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So the New York Times did investigation and they found emails of like the. Because now it's like who they're trying to find blame. Who do we blame? The builders, the developers. The like the residents are pissed. And by the way, it's not just like an apartment building that you can buy an apartment. It's their hundred city of millions of dollars. So all These people spend $100 million on an apartment and they literally can't go to the bathroom, they can't throw their garbage down and the building's falling apart. So the New York Times did a investigation and they found emails where like the people the builders are literally writing to one another, being like, well, you know, if we don't use this concrete mix, like, that's not gonna stay together. And they literally know what they're doing is wrong. And they're choosing the aesthetic. Having like a white concrete over dark concrete, they're choosing that over the function of, like, it actually being safe. Now if I'm somebody who bought an apartment in here, oh my God, I'm so pissed. I don't know. Does insurance cover something like this? It's. It's literally unheard of.
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I have no idea. And like, can you sell it? Is anyone trying to get into this building? Yeah, it's like a.
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Let me tell you, it's like 55th and like fifth or something. I avoid that block. Always have, like, the plague. Something terrible is going to happen to that building. And now what do we do? Right. So they say that they need $160 million renovation. Well, they absolutely have to do it. Like, if I'm, you know, the New York mayoral debate is like really, like, tense right now. If I'm a mayoral debate, like, if I'm a mayoral candidate, this is an issue people need to be talking about. They should be forced to do that renovation. It's a hazard. Pieces of concrete flying off of the thousand story building. Like, it's insane.
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I know. I just worry that they actually can't fix it like that. The issue and that, like, the building eventually would have to be so abandoned.
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Not only abandoned, but demolished. Right. It can't just stand there.
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No.
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So this is unprecedented. But I would love an expert to weigh in, like, what do we do here? The building?
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Really?
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Can you just demolish a building in the middle of the city? Don't you like the debris? You can't just like, take down a building, can you?
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I think you can, yeah. They do it all the time.
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Do it, do it.
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I mean, there's so much money in this building.
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Too bad. For real.
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I don't know. I'd love to talk to a resident. Is it as bad as, like, maybe.
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I'll have a resident co host.
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You should. You should.
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If you or someone you know, lives in 432 Park Avenue, reach out, please.
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They say the building sways in the wind and groans like a ship at sea and that leaks. Power outages and elevator problems have persisted since they moved in. Oh, yeah. Like, the mechanical issues are wild. The elevators, like, always out. I don't know if it's just because it's shittier because of the, the wind.
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Oh, My God. But when the building went up, there was a lot of. Of outrage and people were just talking about it. But because it was so ugly, it really has affected. The New York City skyline is so iconic and it's so gorgeous. I'm sorry. No other city compares. And this big, just, like, pencil in the middle. It's so ugly. And we hated it from the beginning because it was just like these billionaires being like, look, we could build a big stupid building. We're like, we don't give a fuck. Like, seriously, get a life. It was so unnecessary. It was like, it's literally. It's giving the Titanic the unsinkable. Like, we can do it. Well, you can, but who cares? So you don't need to.
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Yeah. It's just crazy that it's, like, not good.
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Like, all the money in the world and you can't even build a building that stands up on its own.
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Yeah. That doesn't sway. That's like the pictures of the cracks.
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And, like, the literal chunks of concrete missing.
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Where are those chunks of engineering then? There's so many other buildings that are going up on. They call it Billionaires Row. So it's like that street. Super tall buildings. There's one. Remember that one where, like, the crane was just, like, falling off. It was right by our old studio. Street would be shut, like, shut down a couple times because, like, was falling off the construction site. A crane in the breeze. Like this.
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This is so scary. Of course it makes me think of that building in Florida, in Surfside, that completely collapsed because it was, like, not engineered right or whatever. Like, we have a duty in these urban, like, urban planners. I don't know what. Like, these are people's jobs. Like, you have to figure it out. This really gives me the willies.
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No, but it's also like. Like, it's Tower of Babel. Too tall.
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It's Tower of Babel. It's too tall.
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It's too. Like, it could. It's too tall. Like, it didn't have to. It doesn't have to be so tall. Like, I don't understand, like, the.
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The tall.
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It's like.
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And the thing is. And I've seen videos of people, like, touring apartments in there, like, on the highest floors. You guys, you're literally in the clouds. You can't even see anything. There's no view.
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Live on an airplane, live on another planet.
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It's so stupid. You can't. You don't even. Okay, so the point of being high up is that you can get good views, but These people are so high that they're actually on most days in the clouds. You don't. You're. You're surrounded by fog.
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That's really crazy.
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It's so stupid.
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And that's most desirable, right? Damn.
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No. If I'm somebody who bought in this apartment, I'm obviously, like, annoyed because I'm gonna lose money. But I'm more so embarrassed. Like, you got caught up in all this and you spent all this money. That's so embarrassing. Like, I'm literally pointing my finger like it's you yucky. Like, that's so embarrassing. Oh, man, I'm obsessed with this saga.
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JLo and a rod lived there when they were together. Yes.
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And there's a video on the toilet. Yeah. It's like you're just in the middle of this, like, airspace, so every other building can see you in this huge windows. Somebody zoomed in. They got a picture of a Rod on the john.
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Yeah.
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Obsessed.
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Those are the fast five stories. Feel as though you needed to know them. Now it is time for Dear Toasters.
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We have an amazing Dear Toasters today. If you guys ever want to write in, you can submit. Well, sorry, let me say, if you're new here, Dear Toast is our weekly advice segment where we just try to help out the swirlies in need. They're always dealing with like mother in law, drama, baby drama, whatever. And you can write into us, send us an email, dear toasters, gmail.com or simply head over to our website, thetostpodcast.com scroll down this little submission box. Totally anonymous. Don't worry, we'll never, you know, blow your spot up. Here we go. Hey, swirlies. Long time listener here. Let me start by saying I love my mother in law most days. You know how mother in laws are. But one thing I cannot stand about her is, and I have no idea, you know, I feel like I really have not been reading this. Well, I'm starting over.
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I feel like I haven't been reading well all day.
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So.
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Okay, it's just a bad reading day.
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It happens.
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Brd.
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Hey, girly swirlies. Long time listener here. Let me start by saying I love my mother in law most days. You know how mother in laws are. One thing I cannot stand about her and I have no idea how to address is that this woman never, and I mean never washes her hands. She loves cooking. She's always preparing meals when my husband and I come over, but she quite literally never washes her hands. Anytime she uses the restroom, she's out that door. The millisecond of flushing. I've paid attention to this as long as I've known her and it disgusts me to no end. I have zero clue how to address it. My husband does the same sometimes and have to remind him to wash his hands. He's a p job otherwise. But how the hell do I bring this up to my mother in law side A sanitary toaster.
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That's actually my worst nightmare.
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The thing is not to be like a toxic woman, but you have to have a baby. Because once you have a baby, you can say you have to wash your hands. You come in the house, wash your hands and that's what, that's what like every good Samaritan does when they come and meet your baby. They're like, wait, let me wash my hands. And sometimes you have to be like, wait, sorry, can you wash your hands? That's when you could start being like a pushy hand washer and you just never stop.
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Yeah, no, that's good. You can get her to occasionally wash her hands like when the baby comes around. But in general, like, you're not going to change this woman. You can't tell a grown woman to wash her hands. Like I just. You can't eat her food.
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You, this is what they say, can't.
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Have something that was prepared from her kitchen. Like I, if I know that about someone, especially you know, I how I am about kitchen safety and like if I've seen that you are not practicing like kitchen food grade safety in your kitchen, I will not eat your food. I don't care how amazing it looks.
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Of course this is what people on Tick Tock say. It's like a little song. I forget how it goes, but it's like, like this is why you can't eat at everybody's house.
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No, you cannot. I hope that the food doesn't look that good because that's really would be hard. But that's literally the only thing that can get me to not eat is like unsanitary conditions. Like someone's disgusting hands, a hair in the food. All of a sudden I have self control.
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I've never been like such a crazy hand washer Nazi. But when you have a baby, like I become just very aware of like my outside clothes. You know, I was never like really crazy about it, but now I'm just more aware of it. That's really gross. Like I'm sorry that you're dealing with that. And in terms of like tangible solutions, I offer a baby, It's a band Aid. They say A baby fixes everything.
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It's just a band aid. I'm sorry.
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She's a deeply flawed person.
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Before you go over there, don't touch her. Like, that's just so yucky to me.
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Agreed. All right, next up. Hey, Jackson, Claude. I have a mom question for you. You two are the perfect mamas to help me out. I'm in round two, parent phase. So I have two older kids, a 19 and a 17 year old and now a two year old son. My question is about mom friends. I'm definitely much older than most of the moms that I meet at the park, so I feel really awkward about asking them for playdates or other meetups. I don't want to give off, like, unapproachable energy, but I also don't want to be the weird old lady in your college classes that nobody wants to be in the group with. What are your thoughts? Would you be open to being friends with an older mom or should I just stay on the sidelines? I'm 44, if that helps. Sincerely, a geriatric millennial. I mean, you sound like a dream. Like, seriously, I think you're over underestimating how badly everybody would want to be your friend.
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Your skills that you bring, you've done this twice.
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Yeah, like it's. It's kind of like having a blend everybody. I feel like girls become even closer with their mothers once they have babies because, like, they're a wealth of knowledge. So you're a combination of both. I wouldn't be insecure at all.
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No. And like, the way I see it, when I'm like at the playground or I'm meeting other moms and stuff, it's like, like if our kids are the same age, we are the same age. I don't even like, think about if you're younger than me or older than me. I just think about like, oh, your kid's older than ours. So we're like, not compatible. But like, if our kids are the same age, we are the same age.
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It's so true. Parenting is very. It's like an equilibrium. Is that the right word? Equalizing. The great equalizer.
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Okay.
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Like, no matter who you are, where you're from, how much money you have, like, we all are just sort of like dealing with the same thing.
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And like someone.
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We are equal.
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Someone could be younger than me and have older kids than my kids. And it's like, well, they're just like, older than me, like, wiser. It's really about the children. And so I think you're Overthinking it completely. Like, if I see someone, especially when we start talking birthdays, if we're like, right around the same month and the kids are born, I'm like, oh my gosh, play date.
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B
Totally. You're overthinking it. And I do. I feel the analogy right about like the, you know, adult who went back to college and like, none of the kids want to be friends. That's not you.
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No.
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That's not you.
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No.
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You're fine.
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You want to be friends with all these, like, young people who are like, you know, nervous, like, for the first smell.
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All right. Dear Jackson Turd, I'm 29 and chronically single. My last boyfriend was when I was in college and it really wasn't serious. My friend and her husband live a few states away, about a 14 hour drive. Her husband plays rugby and they had this new guy join the team. They have hung out with this man once, but my friend is convinced that this is the guy for me too. Am I crazy if I get on a plane to go one to go watch one of their local rugby games with the hopes of sparking up a conversation with this man after the game is over? It seems totally insane, but the dating pool is abysmal and this seems like really the only glimmer of hope that I have. Sincerely, a very girly swirly.
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A
Seriously, what are you still doing here? Like, buy your ticket.
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Run, Joey, run. Jo, listen, love waits for nobody. And I love that you're okay. Yeah, you're technically getting on a plane to, like, potentially meet this guy who you've never met, but you're also going to visit your friends.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Like, at worst, you have a great weekend away with your best friends who live far away and you don't ever see. At best, you have a great weekend away and you meet the love of your life. Go girl. Like, seriously, I'll send you the miles.
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A
There's really no downside, 100%, because you could visit your friend. Anyway, I'm going to assume that, like, your friend knows that this guy is single and that he would be like, open to meeting you and so it's not like a complete. Be a waste of time.
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Triple check that. Like, he's not married or whatever.
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A
Like, yeah, but still, like, you could go and visit your friend. Like, you don't need permission to go and do that and meet someone. Like, leave goodbye a hundred percent.
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And this is not desperate. Like, sometimes, first of all, it's hard to get a guy. And second of all, like, sometimes you have to do great big things for love.
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Yeah. And I think like a setup like this, where your friend who knows you so well, like is saying, like, this guy would be good for you, is, you know, worth 10 random dates.
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Of course, a setup is such a golden opportunity, you have to take it. Even though this is not technically a setup.
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A
Bon voyage.
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B
Yeah, seriously. Say flight. You know what? I've actually, I'm gonna do one more because today's like. I feel like we're kind of obvious, you know.
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Oh, okay.
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The theme was obvious. Hey, swirlies. I got married last November and I've been trying to conceive now for 10 months and I'm in hell. My husband's brother got married one month before us. Conceived right away. They had their baby this summer. He's the cutest peach. But recently I heard my brother in law saying, I'm scared that our son isn't gonna have any cousins his age. And it really set me spiraling. Like, you're scared? What about me? Am I being overly sensitive because trying to conceive is so emotional and exhausting? Or should I talk to my in laws about how hard this has been for us and ask them to be more sensitive? Your brother in law has to go to jail. He has to go to jail. You're not being overly sensitive. That's. That's such a annoying thing to say.
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And like stupid because I mean, do they know that you're trying if they do or they don't, like the difference of 10 months, like 11 months, 12 months. Like when the kids are like, actually kids is really not that much. Oh, and now it's so dramatic. Not gonna have cousins.
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Jim, like seriously get like, that's like the type of person who's looking for things to worry about. First of all, your kid's gonna be totally fine. Totally fine. It's so insensitive. You are absolutely valid in your feelings. How do we handle this?
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I think run it up the chain to the husband, to the parents. Snitch.
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B
Of course not. Not your responsibility because this is your husband's brother and therefore your husband's problem.
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A
Yeah, tell your husband to snitch on him to his parents. That he's like being out of control and being insensitive and like, who does he think he is?
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B
Who do you think?
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Shake it. Move it.
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Who do you think? That's your toasters. You guys are weekly advice segment. Feel free to write us in Dear Toasters, gmail.com or head to our website, the toastpodcast.com. that's also our show. Thank you so much for listening to the Toast Monday morning show. We deal with fast five stories. You need to know everybody YouTube. If you're watching us on YouTube, please don't forget to subscribe. Please be a thumbs up. We're also available as podcast and repackage can be found. So that's Spotify to central public video. I already listen to podcast you I bet A beautiful sounding and wickedly talented we are.
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Love you. Bye. Leave a message.