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Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast.
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It's Jackson Claude and we're your host.
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It's your favorite show, the best five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast.
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They sound amazing.
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Welcome back to the Toast and Happy Tuesday. And you know what I'm choosing. I'm choosing love. I'm choosing Joy and choosing you. Ms. Filet, how you doing?
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I'm doing good. How are you, Miss Turtle?
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Turtles just turtling. She kind of wants to hide under her shell cuz she's shy.
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Oh, are you feeling shy today?
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Nobody. I'm feeling like I want to hide under my shell. What's this weather? Two days in a row, no sun. You know me, I'm.
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You don't know what to do with yourself when it's not sunny here.
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I know what to do. Go home. Like, why the would I be here.
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When it's not sunny? It's like, maybe we should make a chili.
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Like, no, I do that at home. Like, that's what I do.
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You don't want to make a chili here in this state?
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No. I'm like such a beach bum, you know?
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You are a beach bum.
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I love the beach.
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So what did you do yesterday though? It was cloudy and we weren't together.
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I got a manicure. Like, I don't like it was just like indoor things. Yeah. And I just want to say, like, Florida does not have New York beat on the indoor things.
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Probably not.
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Florida has New York beat on the outdoor things.
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Of course.
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So when you remove that sort of element, we're not left with much.
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We have the mall.
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You do have the mall, which, thank you so much for reminding me. I'm now one month into my zip bound journey and I've lost eight pounds, which is obviously amazing, especially, you know, given the holidays. Like I, I. Things were working against you 1000%.
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There were Munchkins in the office yesterday.
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Like, oh my God. I thought you meant like, Jackie. You can't say that.
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No, that was us from Dunkin Donuts.
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Yes, there were munchkins and I sniffed them and left. Like, I'm literally a beacon of health and wellness. It's insane.
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I didn't have one. I just, I, that made it sound like I had one and I didn't. And I, and I'm also proud of that.
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It's a. By the way, because if I was a breastfeeding, there was a box of munchkins in my midst, there would be no box of munchkins. In my midst because I would have housed them.
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Yeah. But I was just not starting off my day like that. Like, I might fall for a Munchkin at 3pm, 4pm but not when we.
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Record at 6am they're not going to catch you. We do. Oh, speaking of, did your husband get home so late last night?
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He got home late.
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Ish.
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They played basketball.
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Did you hear what happened? Yes.
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Oh my God.
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So like, literally I was cracking up. Zach, Jackie's husband, plays in this like, you know, weenie boys league pick up basketball. It's like, you know, bunch of dads, so cute.
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Picking up basketball whenever they can.
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And they asked, Zach asked if Ben wanted to join while we're here.
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Ben loves to do a weenie basketball.
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Ben loves like a, like a grown man pretending to be NBA player type of thing. And Ben has been going now like for two weeks. He says it's really fun, it's a great game. And last night I feel that last night I feel bad saying it too, but. Laughing one, like, literally four, five minutes into the game, like one of the dads dislocated his knee, ruptured his knee and had to be got taken to the hospital. Like, hashtag, this is 35 hashtag, I'm.
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Thinking of his wife because I told Zach, if that were you, I would of course take care of you, comfort you, support you. I would be so mad at you. What do you mean? You went out and you broke your knee and you have to go to spend the night in the hospital. He was having surgery as Zach was telling the story.
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And.
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And what? You're going to be not able to walk for how long?
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Right, right. Like parenting is a very.
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Physically, it's a two person sport.
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1000.
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Oh my God.
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I was also laughing because like, obviously it's terrible. I hope you guys are okay, like for real. But like, it's so funny. Like, these are like a bunch of now like old men playing basketball. Five minutes in, one of them breaks their day.
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Oh, I was only thinking about his wife at home being I let you go play with your friends and now the next three months are ruined.
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Yeah, I guess if Ben did come home with like an injury.
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No, not an injury.
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A like, no, even like a small one. I would just be like, that's just neither here nor there.
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A small one you can ignore. Like, but imagine he had to go.
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To the hospital seriously fudgeing crazy.
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So those boys better think twice.
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Yeah, I don't know if I'm going to be like, so like, yeah, you should go. Because Ben always every, like, every the last two weeks, he's been like, should I go? It's like, late. It's at 8 o' clock and I'm going to bed. He's like, should I? I'm like, you know what? I'm very encouraging because it's good physical activity. I think he comes back feeling better. So I'm like, go, go. I don't know if I'll be so, like, encouraging next week.
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I never thought. I never saw this danger.
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It's kind of how, like, professional athletes really shouldn't be, like, you know, skateboarding on the weekends.
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Yeah. Because dad should not be engaging in high risk activities.
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1000. When you hit a certain age, like a pickup basketball league is high risk.
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Yeah. I think all pickup games are high risk. You know, people hurt themselves playing pickleball these days.
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Do they?
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Plantar fasciitis is very real and it's on the rise.
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And it's a thing like pickleball elbow. Like how you have tennis elbow.
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Oh, yeah.
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Golf knee or whatever.
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That's giving nonsense.
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But yeah, 1,000%.
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Yeah.
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So it's Tuesday. We have Dear Toasters. We have stories. Oh, you know what came out last night that I need to watch tonight? Tell me Lies.
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First two episodes I saw, I need to watch as well. I didn't realize it was out. I'm very excited.
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I saw Grace Van Patten, like, getting photographed in New York. She looked insane. She might be one of the prettiest girls, like, ever made. Yeah, insane.
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Is there anything else on tonight? I feel like there was something else. Tuesday, Salt Lake City. But I'm not caught up. I was I a reunion to watch last night. I'm still on season one episode now two of the new season.
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Oh, you've got ways to go.
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I've got ways to go. Like, Max was up and down last night. I was just like, rolling kids up and down. I didn't get to watch tv and then it was time to go to sleep, so.
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Oh, I did something weird last night. I wanted to tell you, but I called. You need to pick up. I tried.
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I was kids up and down.
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I like, was trying to force a co sleep, you know, because one thing about my ruble, like, he loves his crib and we love that for him. Until mommy has a great, you know, work life balance. But, like, I don't know. While it's a great thing, of course, like, part of me is like, what if we wanted to cuddle? He's just like, never into it. But last night I was like, I put him down and he was crying and he doesn't cry ever. He goes right to sleep.
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You need mama.
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So he figured he needed his mama. Pick him up. I lay him on my chest. I'm laying in bed and he falls asleep like, oh great. And Ben was going to his basketball league and I wasn't doing anything. So I was like, you know what, maybe I'll go sleep. So I told Ben, I'm like he was leaving. I turn off all lights and I get out. I like I made a mistake cuz like he was sleeping soundly on my chest. But like I wanted this girl. So like I put him like next to me in the bed. Once he had fallen asleep and he like woke up, he was like, what the is this? And then I just like let him lay there. He didn't say anything. I was like, are you going to fall asleep? And then Romeo barked and the whole thing ended. So I didn't not co sleep well.
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Like when he was sleeping on you, how was he sleeping?
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Harshy. On his belly, like in my neck.
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So why couldn't you scroll?
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Oh, I just like, I wasn't like the most comfortable. I just wanted him like in the bed.
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I don't know where anyone got the impression if you co sleep you will be a broken individual.
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Okay, so then I'm like not really attracted.
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It's arm breaking, leg breaking, neck breaking. Really everything breaking. And it's not the most comfortable position. And then you can't move.
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Move. Okay, so. Yeah, but you got a little bit.
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It sounds like a little bit of cozy. Yeah, totally cozy.
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Yeah.
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How long?
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Five minutes. I should have waited longer to like.
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Before flipping him over until he was complaining.
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Passed out. Yeah, he was just like lightly dozing.
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Understood.
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Yeah, I just like felt stupid afterwards.
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So at what point did you call me?
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Like right after I put him down, he went back to like he just needed like a. Maybe at a burp or something. The second I picked him up, he fell back asleep. Like I don't know what was bothering him, but I should have just put him back in his crib. But I was, I saw an opportunity.
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You were comfortable in.
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Yeah, yeah. At first.
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Yeah. Okay, next time. Now you know for next time. Cuz it really is so.
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Yeah.
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So great.
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Yeah. But so is like having an independent sleeper.
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Oh no, no. Especially if you could do it as a special treat. Right? Not every night. Correct. That's the best of all worlds.
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But it's a gateway drug for both you and the baby.
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Yeah.
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Oh, my God.
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I wonder how Ruby. I wonder what he would think of it. Like, if he's like, I want more, I'm not going back.
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Like, one thing about Ruby is, like, mess with his sleep, you know? Like, he loves to sleep. He sleeps really well. And it's like, what am I doing? Like, there are mothers who would kill for my situation.
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Yeah, but you're allowed to have a little bit of cuddle, cozy.
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We do contact naps all the time. Like the daytime naps. I've never done it.
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It doesn't have to be so binary is what I'm just saying.
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Cozy sleeping is not a nap.
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You've become very binary.
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Guilty as charged. And how. So please elaborate.
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Like, it's not like all cr. Like, all or nothing. You know, he could sometimes have a little bit of something and still sleep happily in his crib most of the time.
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Yes. We do a bunch of contact naps. If he's ever struggling with an app, I think it's better just do a contact nap than to let him struggle. Like, I have a flexible job, you know, but nighttime crib, like, my sleep is, like, just as important as Ruby's, you know?
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Yeah.
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And I sleep a lot.
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Mommy needs her sleep.
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She really doesn't. Beauty rest. Hello. Beautiful woman here.
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Yeah. In the line of work we're in.
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In the line of work we are in. Sleep is paramount. Honestly.
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No, I agree. That's why I feel like you could.
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Say that about any job. Like, if you're gonna wanna do your job, you're just gonna need sleep. But ours obviously, like, more for ours more.
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I feel like some jobs like you can do on autopilot a little bit. You know what I mean? Like, just like pushing paper around.
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Oh, true.
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But not this one.
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That relies on our personality which benefits from sleep 1000%. Like, you can tell when you're watching the show. Like, Claudia didn't get good sleep last night.
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Yeah, usually because you tell us.
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Yeah, of course, of course. But also, you could just sort of like, feel it in the atmosphere.
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So you got good sleep last night?
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I would say I did.
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Yeah.
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And then my king, Ruby, like, literally slept till 8 and I had to wake him up.
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What's that like?
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Yeah. So just like mama tings. Now that I said it, I'm sure we'll, like, enter some sort of sleep regression. But it's okay.
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Yeah.
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Once you speak it, of course.
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Jinx it.
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Yeah. Like we were in an elevator the other day and, like, this woman was like, oh, so cute. Are you getting Any sleep. And I was, like, tons, like, and then he literally did not sleep that night. Like, you really just need to shut your mouth. Like, if you have a baby who.
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S L E E P s. I know, but you also need to share your truth and let people know it's possible. Like, even though I have not had this experience whatsoever in three tries, I love hearing about a positive sleeping experience.
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It's so true. I feel like so much of motherhood, especially when it comes to, like, online, is, like, sharing the hard parts. Which, of course, of which there are many, but not everyone's, like, situation, like, has to be horrible. Like, I'm telling you, like, there are babies that exist that, like, that sleep. And, like, it's awesome. It is. So you should all have a million babies.
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That's beautiful, Koji.
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Thanks. Did you see that they came out with autism Barbie?
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Yeah, I saw that.
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She wears headphones and her hands move.
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Okay. As opposed to other Barbies. That hands don't move.
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Like, no hands.
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Yeah, you're right.
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At the wrist. Oh, at the wrist. The hands move on the autism Barbie, whereas Barbie's arms are just bent at the elbows.
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You're right.
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And that's. So that Barbie can. I don't know what it's called.
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Skim.
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Yeah, like, where you flap your hands. And then, of course, in case she gets over, simulated she has her headphones.
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Got it.
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That's what's going on with Barbie.
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I haven't been keeping up with Barbie dolls enough to know, like, how many. Like, what's Barbie up to? But if there's a million, like, there, then there should be Barbie for everyone.
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I think there are, like, a million Barbies.
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Then Barbie for everyone.
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There's wheelchair Barbie, of course. All different shapes, colors, and sizes. And I guess it's only a matter of time that they hit the spectrum.
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Yeah, but then autism is a spectrum. So, like, to put Barbie in, like, a box of, like, just hands and headphones.
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Quite binary.
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Yeah. I don't know that that represents everyone, but that's the game you get into when you start trying to represent everyone.
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Right, Right.
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Endless representation.
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Beautiful. It's a beautiful thing. Now, what's going on with you? I can sense there's, like, a darkness within. Come on, open up, Jax. I feel like I'm always opening up.
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I feel like I'm always open. Well, I guess you don't really ask me to open up.
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Oh, okay. So her lack of vulnerability is my fault. Okay.
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No, there's no darkness within. I'm kidding.
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I was kidding.
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Oh, okay, great. Because I'm like, I'm doing better than ever. Even though commuting is like not great for my schedule right now because, like, I have to miss a feeding. I love driving to work. I'm listening to all the millennial hits. I read a statistic once that like, once you turn, I don't know, it was 3 or 33 or 34, you stop discovering new music and you start listening to like all the things that you used to love. And I feel like that happened to me this week where like, it's David Guetta all day, every day.
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Wow.
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Give me Pitbull. Give me Florida. I'm like the millennial mom in her car. The club can't even handle me right now. Watching you, watching me, I go all out. It's just so funny. Like all I crave right now is dance hits. Like, I go through seasons. We should do dance class sometimes in my car. It's like, okay, the vibes are country. The vibes are like mellow. The vibes are songs that make you cry. Like, I just want to know. We are bopping, we are fists pumping. That's funny.
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Actually, yesterday and today when I was in my vehicle, I was listening to the Hannah Montana soundtrack and I was just thinking, I'm like, here, I have my own car, I'm like driving to my thriving business and I'm listening to Hannah Montana. If the girl who first discovered Hannah Montana could see me now, like, I'm living my dream life.
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No, I had a similar thought when I was driving today.
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Listen, Jams, driving will give you like crazy existential thoughts.
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And I was just like, life's good.
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Like, yeah, please, you know, by your tongue.
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And it's like sad to think I missed out on what, 15 years of driving where people were having these thoughts all the time. Like, windows down, favorite song, crank it up.
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Yeah.
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And like I could have been feeling something like that for 15 years, but I'm doing all my catching up now.
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Yeah. Do you ever think about, like, what would 12 year old Jackie. Oh, think of. I forgot how old you are. 30 something year old Jackie O. Slay, slay. I think my girl would be like super proud and be like, like, like I'm an inspiration to myself.
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Yeah, I think so. I. For sure I think so. Like, yes, she'd be upset. Yeah.
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Like, I think like little me would be like shook that I like ever got a boyfriend and got married. Because like that when you're like a preteen, that's like the pinnacle of success is Having a boyfriend. Not only everybody have a husband.
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Yeah.
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And like a good one who, like, loves me, like, more than anything. And then also, like, I have a beautiful home. Like those things mattered to 12 year old. Like all the shallow things. Check.
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Yeah, that's really beautiful.
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I just feel like conversations like this precede, like something horrible.
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No, I need to stop talking. But I was just like, when I was driving, I was just like looking around. I was like, I know it's cloudy for you, but it's a beautiful day for me. I've got my song on. I've got my coffee and I'm just like, par G. That's all. That's all I was saying.
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Your sister's in town.
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Yeah, like, I get to work with family.
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Oh, that's beautiful.
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And I understand what you mean. Like, it's, you know, you don't like.
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I don't like Judaism. It's called a Kanahara. Like you want to like, knock wood, but you're talking.
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But I meant it more to say, like, just like the small things, like, just enjoy the moment, you know? I feel like people spend so much, like going from one thing to the next. Especially like in parenthood. Like, you never pick your head up to be like, hey, I like this beautiful. I like what I'm doing right now. So just take a moment to stop and smell the roses. That's what I did this morning. I wasn't counting the roses. I was smelling them. Okay.
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And you know what roses really smell like? Poo. Poo. Poo. Yeah. I don't really understand that song. Roses smell like poo. No, they don't.
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I guess it's like we were just trying to be positive, you know, who was us in our previous conversation? Like, we were just trying to be like optimistic, you know, but it just like felt wrong.
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It didn't fit. Let's go back.
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It honestly felt wrong.
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It's not us. And that's why people tune in for positivity. Like two girls weeping with joy. No, like, we are good. Olivia text me this morning. So funny. Like, who you text and you have a mean thought, right? Like, Olivia knows texting. And I know she literally text me. Can I say something mean? Like nothing to me.
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Was it about me?
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She actually. I haven't even received the meanness. She literally did she? No, she said, I have something mean to say and I reped. Please. Like, actually she did. And we will share it to you later.
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Is it about me?
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Yeah. Jackie is a fat, ugly slob and I think we should stop Being friends with her. That's what Olivia said.
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Wait, but why can't I just read it right now?
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I just don't feel like that's appropriate. Like.
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Oh, you don't?
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Yeah.
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Oh, that's weird.
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Then I run the risk of, like, the phone being flipped to the camera. Like, come on.
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Okay.
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And guys, it's not, like, about anyone, you know. Don't worry, I'm kidding.
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Okay, so I guess now with that, we have a lot to do today.
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Let's go back to being negative. Like, Amy Winehouse went back to black. We're going back to Fabissa.
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Okay. Yeah. Without further adooda doo da doo, here are the fast five stories that you do need to know.
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T U R T A pleasure.
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A pleasure.
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Swears are random today, so in no particular order of importance, let's get into them. First up, regarding our conversation last week. This week it's announced Harry Styles has landed his second Madison Square Garden residency. So Harry Styles is back to work, he's back in the office and he is doing another residency at Madison Square Garden. Page Six has exclusively learned that the pop superstar has landed his second MSG residency and will return to the stage in 2026. This comes as news as rumors reach a fever pitch that he is preparing to return to the stage after a three year hiatus. Oh my God.
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You know what, this would be like a good time just to triple check that Harry Styles still follows me on Instagram. I've just sort of been like waiting for him to unfollow me especially as like my content recently like probably doesn't.
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Serve him change like motherhood and right all of that.
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I'll be so upset. Nope, we still got it. He follows Taylor Swift.
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I feel like he's not really on Instagram. Don't be a. Oh, sorry. I was saying that to Taylor Swift, not to you. He sure he pops in to see what.
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Just to check in on me and Ruby, like, obviously, obviously.
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But you know what I mean. Like, I feel like his public account is, like, just a thing that he has, and then he probably has his own fun one on the side where.
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He follows me too.
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Where he also follows you because he can't get enough.
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Okay, sorry. Not to make this story about me, but.
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No, that was honestly record time.
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Yeah, I agree.
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Like a hard pivot.
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Listen, one thing I know about this show is, like, people really come to us and they know what to expect. And if I ever deviated from being my true self, like, that would really upset people.
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Year of authenticity.
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Yeah, I just wanted to know if Harry Styles of all me, like, I don't know how people don't make things about themselves. Like, who gives a. That he's doing a residency? What about me and my Instagram? You know, 100. Okay, I'm glad we agree. But back to the residency. You know, I don't want to be, like, looking too deep into this, but financial trouble. No, no, no. Lovers paradise. Like, I feel like a residency, especially outside of Vegas, is something you do when you, like, want to perform. Obviously you want to make money, but you don't want to travel because you're, like, happy in your life. Touring life is not. Does not lend itself to, like, good relationships, stability. And I feel like, yeah, it's time for him to get back out there. He's got it. But I don't know if he wants to get back on. Especially he's like, was on that One Direction thing. He knows how toxic, like, album, tour, album, tour, album, tour can be. And I think he's really happy with Zoe. I think there were a couple of places he could have, like, parked it and done a residency, but New York is obviously a big market for him. I think she has a place there. I'm telling you not to make everything about Zoe, but I feel she's all over this.
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Oh, I just feel like he's doing it. He's running it all back. Like he did this last time. I can't imagine he's doing 15 shows. Say that takes place over the course of two months. Like, last time it was over a couple weeks. And then he'll be on the road. I think he's going to do tour, album, tour, album. And I think he's just kicking himself that he met Zoe so late into his Hiatus. Because now he has to go back to work and put food on the table.
A
Right.
B
Whereas if he met her three years ago, he would have had three years of bliss. However, idleness is the devil's work. Maybe it's better, you know, everything's about balance. Right. You can't just be like a couch potato, but you also can't be in a different city every night.
A
Let's just run it back real quick. Idleness is the devil's work. Love that. However, disagree. I feel like idleness is an angel's work. I love being idle. Idol is life. And I just. Maybe for some people. But I remember I said this a couple weeks ago because we took, we took so many weeks off during winter break. And I've always thought, like, I could never not work.
B
Not work.
A
And you know, idleness is the devil's workshop. Wrong. Idleness is heaven's workshop. Idleness is, you know, the warm bosom of Hashem.
B
Couple things, Couple things. So I think generally speaking, idleness is the devil's work. I think there are a couple exceptions to the rule of people who are like, truly happy inside and out and wouldn't be in their idleness and won't be captured by the devil whether they're idle or not idle.
A
Oh, yeah. The devil can't catch me.
B
The devil can't find you. I also think when you're not working, you know what you are. Girl with no job, a stay at home mom. That's so it's like you're not idol. You weren't idol this holiday season. You were a psalm.
A
Yeah.
B
I'm saying it's like you, you, you're cut out to be a psalm.
A
I wouldn't mind being a psalm. I really wouldn't.
B
So I do still think that idleness.
A
Is the devil's workshop.
B
Idleness is the devil's work. Especially if you're someone like him.
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Have you ever seen Harry Styles perform?
B
I don't think so.
A
I think so. I'm once before, he was enormous because it was Radio City. So, like, it wasn't huge. And I will say, like, he did amazing. It was such an unpleasant experience because it was like fresh off the heels of One Direction and it was like crazy people in the audience. Like, I, I definitely still have, like, damage to my hearing from that experience. It was just like crazy people screaming. I'm like, what? You know, if you shut the fuck up, you'd be able to hear him saying, don't you want that? Like, I was actually like beefing with people, it was insane.
B
Well, I think they've probably grown. Grown up by now.
A
And I think an arena is much more like, of an appropriate venue. And I've never thought about, like, the volume at concerts. I'm just not like that. But this one particular concert, Margot was there. Like, it was just genuinely unpleasant.
B
I'm sorry that you had to experience that.
A
Well, that's what you get when you, like, find people, like, early. Do you know what I mean? Like, a lot of people only saw Harry Styles live at Radio City. I mean, excuse me, at Madison Square Garden, because, like, then he was huge and bandwagon, unoriginal thinkers. Me, I'm like a creative type and I'm a free thinker and I'm usually ahead of the curve on these things. So I saw him at Radio City, like, a small, very more intimate venue for real fans.
B
For real fans of One Direction, the biggest band in the world.
A
Yeah, he literally had released, like, one song, Sign of the times, you know, it was like, super early, but, you.
B
Know, you saw something. I saw a headline today that was like, Lewis Tomlinson said that he knew that Harry would be the one to have, like, a successful solo care from One Direction. Like, duh, duh.
A
We were all there. We all knew. Headline.
B
Lewis Tomlinson has eyes and ears.
A
Yeah, it's kind of like Camila Cabello. Like, even if you watch X Factor, it was like, literally awkward how, like, bad everyone was compared to Camila, but also, just, like, bad.
B
I really appreciate things that you can count on the show. Claudia will never miss an opportunity to slam Fifth Harmony. Oh, that five members of Fifth Harmony and tell them that they're terrible, they're sloppy, they're a mess, they're.
A
That is so funny. I did not think that's what you were going to say. I will tell you what I thought, but just to rebut, I really feel like I don't talk about them that much. Am I crazy?
B
There's not that many opportunities to.
A
Because they're slob. Loser, nobody.
B
But you will never miss an opportunity too.
A
Well, as a commentator on culture, first of all, I have to say, those of us like, in the know, it's like. It's like, funny. Okay, no, I'm.
B
I'm cackling.
A
And second of all, what I thought you were going to say, like, I'll never miss an opportunity. And this is true to, like, psychoanalyze to the death those, like, three years that X Factor was on in the U. S. Because I was the number one fan. I Could literally tell you, like, every statistic about it. And yes, that does include Fifth Harmony. Because what's so funny is I'm kind of like. You know, they say, like, the life cycle of a troll is, like, you start out as a fan. Nobody was a bigger fan of Fifth Harmony, the band formerly known as Lilas, than me. I watch them from their inception, of course, on X Factor. Then a lot of people fell off. No, they went through this weird era before they, like, released any original music where they would exclusively do covers on YouTube. And they had, like, insane fans like myself. I used to wait up in my dorm room being like, what are they gonna do? What are they gonna do? And then each girl would, like, pick a song. Camilla picked Lego House. And, like, I just. It was. If you were there for, like, the YouTube, I thought that's what you were gonna say, because I'm obsessed with that. But I guess, yeah, I have turned into a hater. That's the life cycle of a troll. Well, I think everybody who, like, hates us right now once loved us in, like, a borderline unhealthy way, which is how you make the, like, the cross over tater.
B
But I don't think that you became a Fifth Harmony troll because, like, you have such troll in you. Like, I think that they. They change, not you, obviously, is all agreed. Even though, like, we never changed. Like, we're not the same as. As Fifth Harmony.
A
You lost me. But I agree.
B
Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Our favorite girly, Brooks Nader, is sharing a candid look at her lips after getting her filler dissolved. She said she's feeling like her old self. So Brooksie got her lip filler dissolved. She's showing pics saying, I had the last of the filler dissolved right before Cabo and feeling like old self. Now she's posting pictures of her with her smaller lips.
A
So obviously not to make everything about myself. I've just sort of been, like, waiting for this to be a story, because fun fact about me, I'm on Brooks Nader's close friend story, and she did tell us this, like, a week or two ago. And of course, I would never break the sacred bound of close friendship, but this is something I've been wanting to talk about. So just kind of like when somebody gets engaged and like. Or is pregnant and, like, you leave a comment, be like, finally we can tell everyone, like, that's my. I'm thrilled. I'm thrilled. I feel like that was one of my major takeaways from the show is that, like, these are girls who, like, fully understand the industry and the beauty standard. They just, like, do what they have to do. And I do feel like she took it really, what, just one step too far and normalize, like, undoing it.
B
Yeah, it's nice that you can undo it. Yeah, some things you can't undo.
A
And there's like a pipeline of girls who get filler and end up looking so much better and then they cross the line and it's kind of like the Brielle Beerman Kylie. When you get that little bit of filler dissolved, like, it's. It's a whole new world. And then she did say, like, maybe she would go brunette because she was, like, sharing all the DMS and people were like, oh, obsessed. You look so good. You look so good. Like, next thing is you have to dye your hair back brown. That's also another pipeline. Like a girls who go blonde, they have so much fun. They're, like, so pretty. Then they forget how pretty they were with their brown hair. And I do feel like that's next for Brooks.
B
I'm really curious to see her with her brown hair again because to me, she, like her, she has the face of a brunette. And so I feel like being blonde, it's like a moment in time, but it's not who she is. Not that I know her that well. And so I'm like, ready for her to be a brunette. But I think think she's finding that blondes have more fun.
A
I just think Brooks has more fun. Not blondes, you know.
B
So you don't think blondes have more fun?
A
I guess if you're the type of. If you're in the era of your life where you're like, you're seeking male attention. Yeah, men just, like, go to blondes because they're like, dumb and bright, shiny.
B
You know, like, oh, men are dumb.
A
Yeah.
B
I thought you were calling blonde stom and I was like, wow.
A
Oh, no, no. That's like, not even funny. No, men are dumb. So, like, I think they just automatically, if there's two women with the same body, same face, one of them has brown hair, one of them is blonde hair, men are just, like, going to be attracted shiny thing and they're gonna go blonde. So if you're, like, looking for a man or like, she's, you know, always spotted out on dates, I do think it's sort of like an attractor blonde. That's what I think.
B
I think it's fun, I think. And also when you're so, like, pretty and you can really pull off anything. But I'm ready.
A
You know, I wore a blonde wig once.
B
Did you find that men were flocking to you? No.
A
I didn't find that. It was a kind of a janky wig. I just wanted.
B
For your birthday?
A
Yeah, it was like, maybe my 24th birthday. We had a hoedown. A hoedown. And I wore, like, this cute outfit. I was like, what if I just, like, wore a blonde wig? And let me tell you, it looked so cute. Like, blonde. Like, I understand it's a stereotype for a reason. Like, it's fun, it's flirty, it's fresh.
B
Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. I've never worn one.
A
A wig.
B
A blonde wit. I mean, I've never worn, like, a wig.
A
Like, like, like a true wig. Like an install.
B
And no, I've only worn, like, a Halloween toast to win.
A
Doesn't count.
B
Prince Harry.
A
Correct. Which was your look, by the way.
B
1,000%.
A
I think we can all agree.
B
So excited to see this evolution of Brooksie.
A
Me too. Like a. Maybe a more pared down, naturally obsessed.
B
And she's also been saying, like, love thy neater is coming. Like, she's been teasing it, but, like, it needs to be here now.
A
I know. And I'm confused because at the end of season one, they were teasing season two. Like, they already had footage. They were talking about the Bezos wedding.
B
Yeah.
A
Yeah. So where's that?
B
It just hasn't come out yet, but it's like, it's getting long in the now.
A
Yeah. The thing that was exciting was that the Brazos wedding had just happened.
B
Yeah.
A
Now it feels old.
B
Yeah.
A
Get it out, foolish.
B
Are you ready for our third story? Some sad news. Colleen Hoover reveals her cancer diagnosis as she concludes radiation. So Colleen Hoover shared a health update with her readers. On Monday. She announced via her Instagram stories that she has one more day of radiation left. At Tox Texas Oncology, she said second to last day of radiation. I wish I could blame my hair and facial expressions on Texas Oncology, but they've been great. Hope you never need them, but highly recommend them. So on her Facebook page, she shared that she had been diagnosed with cancer. In the post, she did not reveal her exact diagnosis, but shared that she had it surgically removed. She noted that she would need radiation, but no chemotherapy.
A
Well, that's terrible. Especially when you think about, like, the journey she's been on in the last couple of years. Like, highs, lows. This is really sad.
B
Yeah.
A
Hopefully people like lay off her. Now she gets, like, so much Internet hate. It's insane.
B
Why?
A
First, because she caught herself. Got herself caught up in, like, this.
B
Okay. I guess.
A
And, like, what was more divisive of the year with, like, crazy people on both sides? And she did take Blake side at first, and, like, she just got dragged in it. And then I think she's like, inter. Like, interpersonal drama, like, with her family. I don't know. I'm not, like, mentally ill. Like, and I don't, like, care.
B
Go in the weeds on Colleen Hoover's family.
A
Right, Right. And, like, find, like, the files on her kids. Like, I don't. No, no, I don't. I don't. Because, you know, idleness is the devil's workshop. Is it devil's work or devil's workshop?
B
I think there are a lot of iterations of the quote. Idleness is devil's play, you know?
A
Oh, no. Workshop is best.
B
Workshop. Okay.
A
So sending love and light and healing and prayers to Colleen Hoover.
B
Yeah.
A
It's actually insane. Like, the arc of her celebrity. It is.
B
She also said, like, this was happening while they were doing, like, reminders of him. They tried to, like, push it back. But that movie's coming out soon, right?
A
Yeah. Yes. Did it come out already? No, it's Allison Williams. I believe I read that one. They all just sort of, like, blended together into a one big. One big Hoover smutty book encyclopedia. Yeah. I just like to remember, like, which one that was. I think it was, like, the girl in the car crash, right? Yeah.
B
I did not read that one.
A
It's interesting. The ones that have made it to screen, like, obviously, it ends with us. Was always gonna, like, that was her number one.
B
Verity we're waiting on. Oh, yeah, Verity is happening.
A
What about Ugly Love? Like, that one was good. November 9th. Love that book.
B
I didn't like November.
A
Oh, my God.
B
I loved it when I was like, I have hoovered too close to the sun.
A
Hoover Dam.
B
Hoover Dam.
A
Oh, no. I loved that book. I feel like I hoovered too close to the sun with reminders of him. I said, you know, maybe I should pick up a history book.
B
Did you ever read Layla with the ghost? Yeah.
A
No.
B
It was a redheads book.
A
I like that color. You tried something new, you know?
B
Yeah. It wasn't the worst ghost book.
A
Were the ghosts having sex?
B
Probably. I can't remember for sure.
A
You blocked it out.
B
Yeah. Yeah, it was. If you like ghost d. Like, spooky. It wasn't spooky, but, like, if you like that sort of element Supernatural. I AD and smut and Hoover Dam. I would recommend it. Okay, not. I'm not talking to you.
A
Yeah, of course, you.
B
Dear reader.
A
Dear reader. Ben. When you can, snap when you have to. I feel good. Like, you know that song's having a renaissance. Cuz the bridge on Tik Tok. Like, that audio is going viral. And bridge. Oh, I'm so glad you asked. So I wander through these nights I prefer hiding in plain sight My fourth drink in my hand these desperate prayers of a cursed man Spilling out to you for free but darling, darling, please you wouldn't take my word for it if you knew who was talking if you knew where I was walking to a house not a home all alone cuz nobody's there Where I pasted my pen cuz my friends found friends who care My favorite line. Ready? No one sees when you lose when you're playing in solitaire. And obviously, like, everyone's making tik toks too in the song.
B
Like, what. What kind of tick tocks do they.
A
Make where they're just lip syncing the viral. The. You know, let's make one after.
B
Okay.
A
Okay. For my Tik Tok, of course. Should we do one right now? Live Tik Tok?
B
No. It sounds like a lot to memorize. I. There's. You don't know that it's not like a trend of no. Like, no.
A
We're just like, singing it. And just back to my further point, just to quickly circle back to myself. I feel really good in knowing, like, that has always been my favorite song off of Midnights and now everyone's like, underrated. Like, I feel like peace is getting that treatment too. People being like, you know, growing up is realizing peace is like growing up. Some of us have been grown. Okay. Okay. Wow. Yeah. Wow.
B
Are you ready for our next story? Refu.
A
Ashley. Ma. Dear Colleen.
B
Yes.
A
Yes.
B
Our fourth story. Rihanna make cracking jokes, being a relatable postpartum mama. She commented on an Instagram. Have you seen this trend of people who are, like, deciding to get hot and sexy or get pregnant in 2026?
A
I am not seeing the trend I'm living in. Okay.
B
Yeah. And she commented. She said, wait, so I'm not crazy then? Oh, my God.
A
Rihanna. She's just one of the girls.
B
Yeah. She old.
A
Is her kid now. So the youngest she.
B
In September she had her third. So if she's already thinking fourth, like, I actually feel put on notice if she's thinking for it because we've been pregnant the same times for all.
A
Yeah.
B
Of ours. So it's like, if she's talking for like. Girl, slow down. Shit. I'm not ready.
A
I mean, I am ready. This body is not. You know what I mean?
B
Fuck. But are you deciding whether to get hot and sexy in 26?
A
Well, that's what I'm doing. Me and my GLP1.
B
You're doing both.
A
What do you mean?
B
Like, you want to do both? I guess you could do both.
A
Well, for me, I have to do one in order to do the other.
B
Yeah, yeah.
A
Like, I need to lose weight before getting pregnant.
B
Yeah, but then it's like, then you're hot and sexy.
A
I know. And I could just be. I know. I'm gonna get like Cindy and be like, a couple more months. Please let me just live.
B
Ruby's not ready. Yeah.
A
No, no, no. Neither is his mama.
B
And you rang your mama's shirt today, which is really apt for all this mama chatter.
A
One thing about our merch, it's like, it may take an eternity to come, but when it does, your life will never be better. Like this shirt. I could cry talking about this shirt. Like, this shirt has carried me through some of the most challenging times in my life. And you could dress it up. You know, you wear it out to dinner, you could dress it down. No, literally, like. Or take it off and go to the gym. Like, I'm telling you this, this, these shirts. I like that we have a couple. If you're not a mama. Like, of course we have unma ones. We mama ones. There will be BS and as before shirt and after shirt.
B
And also, like, it's. It's great for all, all seasons. But even, like, when it's not just a hiding shirt. Cuz it's also like, super cute when you're feeling yourself.
A
I have looked so cute in this shirt. Fat and skinny.
B
Like, that's.
A
It's literally shallow house.
B
It's sisterhood of the traveling shirt. Because it's also one size. You have to buy a size.
A
And I thought at one point I was like, I had outsized the one size. And that's the thing about the size, guys. It's for all.
B
It is for all. Yeah. And even though the merch takes an eternity to come, we never said that it did. Like, we always let you know, like, two to three weeks for shipping.
A
I mean, if you want some piece of shit drop chip from China, like, go for it. One thing about us, we're quality artisans, right? And the merch may take an eternity to come. The merch may take an eternity to come. But at Least it comes.
B
But it's top quality fabric.
A
And, like, the merch may take an eternity to come, but you know what else does? Like, all merch. Like, I one time ordered an Ariana Grande sweatshirt, and like, literally two years later, it came. Yeah. And you know what? I was just happy to get it.
B
Yeah. Taylor Swift.
A
Yeah. Months.
B
All merch.
A
Just like our fellow artists.
B
All merch worth having.
A
Cue wrecked.
B
Are you ready for our fifth and final story? It's actually some health news, and our.
A
Merch may take an eternity to come. Not kidding.
B
It's actually some health news. There's a potential scary link between nose picking and Alzheimer's.
A
Because let me tell you, obviously I don't want to get any diseases. Like, any. Any God. Like, God willing, I should, you know, at the age of 100, die peacefully in my sleep with bed at the same time. But of all the ways to, like, wither away, I do feel like the one I would least likely like to have is Alzheimer's. Like, I feel like it's the hardest for my family. Like, Like, I. I think I would prefer many other illnesses over Alzheimer's, but unfortunately, I'm addicted to picking my nose, so. Tell me about it.
B
So some 90% of the population picks their nose, sometimes several times a day. This may seem like a harmless habit, but frequently digging for gold may have dire consequences. Dirty fingers can introduce bacteria into the nose, causing infections that lead to crusting, tissue damage, and nosebleeds. Researchers are investigating the theory that trauma to the nasal lining can transmit germs to the brain, potentially triggering inflammation and the formation of amyloid plaques. Yeah, these are hallmarks of Alzheimer's disease, a progressive neurodegenerative condition affecting over 7 million Americans.
A
Okay, it sounds like I could stop picking my nose, obviously.
B
Or you could wash your hands before.
A
I could become, like, a big sanitizer person. Yeah, the spray, you know.
B
Yes. But then you're putting chemicals in your nose.
A
At least it's not dirt.
B
Agreed. But that could be a different issue. Maybe just wash your hands.
A
Yeah, no, I mean, and I do, but I could be, like, way more vigilant about it.
B
Or maybe they should have, like, a sleeve you can put on your finger.
A
Yeah. Or a tissue. Like, if you're going to that trouble, like, just get a tissue, you know? You know, I just had a scratch. I didn't pick my nose. You know, I actually saw a reel, obviously. So it's true about, you know, people who live, like, within a mile or so of a golf course are, like, over 100 more likely to have Parkinson's in their lifetime because of all the pesticides they used to keep a golf course, like, maintained and stuff. Those chemicals, like, are in the water. So if you live near your golf course, don't be drinking that tap.
B
I saw that as well. And then I saw someone else debunk it.
A
Oh, okay. Never mind.
B
Drink the water. Like, about how they, like, don't use that. Those sorts of things anymore. And if you're.
A
I don't know, Golf courses, like, are pristine. If you ever maintained your own lawn, you know, it's kind of hard to keep your grass growing all year long.
B
Yeah, but there's just. I also saw both, but I. I agree. You know, now I don't know what the to do.
A
Right.
B
It's like, you know, this water is supposed to be better because it's in a glass bottle. Then I saw a real, like, don't drink glass. No, like the brand.
A
Oh, what's wrong with Mountain Valley?
B
Actually, I haven't read anything about Mountain Valley except it tastes like ass. Saratoga. I love Saratoga. And then I saw a reel that was like, saratoga's springs are polluted.
A
Why? My girl Poland hasn't gotten into the glass game.
B
We need Poland in the glass game. But Poland does not sell in Florida.
A
What?
B
And it's really. That's probably been the hardest part of moving.
A
I guess you're right.
B
Right after, you know, friends and family, of course.
A
What's the. The Blue Rapper?
B
Zephyr Hill.
A
No.
B
Pure Life. Pure Life. Pure Life is tasty.
A
Yeah. Yeah.
B
Zephyr Hills is disgusting. I'm shocked that they are still in business.
A
Is.
B
And maybe people. You like it?
A
I can't believe that water brands are regional. I'm just learning this.
B
Yeah.
A
Okay. So do you guys have Deer park here? Right. What about Evian? Do you have that here?
B
I think so. Oh, you do? Yeah.
A
What other brands are there?
B
Well, then there's more national brands. You know, Aquapon. That's international.
A
Aquapon. Yeah, of course.
B
No.
A
What about Aquafina? Oh, you have that here? Yeah.
B
I wouldn't know.
A
Dasani.
B
I would never.
A
Dasani money. Yeah. No, but you have it here.
B
But I would never go for. I don't even notice if we have it here.
A
So it sounds like the regional brands, like, kind of slightly, except Zephyr Hills. Poland Spring, to me, is the pinnacle of good water. I really wish they would get into the glass game.
B
I agree. It's the pinnacle of good water. Zephyrhills has a monopoly on the state of Florida. I don't know what they mean on the Senate.
A
It's definitely like a mob family 1,000%.
B
And the water is so yucky.
A
But other people in the studio who.
B
Happen to live in Florida and they never knew Poland Spring. Right. They don't know better. But as a transplant, I'm telling you, like, I love this state. There's so many great parts about living here you guys don't even know. Good water. Good.
A
That's insane.
B
Yeah, so it's been a struggle actually.
A
Yeah, of course.
B
And that's me opening up about what's going on with me.
A
Your vulnerability and the depths at which you are willing to reach in for this show. It doesn't go unnoticed. And your merch may take an eternity to come. Period.
B
Anyways, clean your fingers before you pick your nose. That's just a good thing to do. Even if this theory is not true, you know, Cuz this is just their working theory right now.
A
I just wish it was like an easier way to wash your hands. You know what I mean? Like sometimes I'm not in the mood to get wet. And then a lot of times like there's not the proper drying mechanism. And sometimes there is if you're in a bathroom that's like public, there is the proper drying mechanism. But then like by the time you leave the bathroom, you're dirty again. It's just like so crazy.
B
Also, when are we gonna call it it on those air hand dryers? When are we gonna acknowledge and just admit that they're a failure? It's not good. They're disgusting. They don't dry your hands. So you're leaving with a wet dirty hand. And then wet hands are like. You contract more the wetness than dryness. So when can we just call it on those? I'm fully in agreement as a failed experiment and I. I don't even know who's to blame and I'm not gonna look for who's. I don't want to blame anyone.
A
Well, I do want to say one thing.
B
You can go live in privacy. Like we won't dox you or anything. So can we call it?
A
I do feel like not all air dryers are created equally. Dyson did enter the game with the.
B
Ones that you slide your hands in.
A
That one's better. Disgusting better, but not sanitary. Kimber Clark, that's who we blame. You know that brand, right?
B
I feel like Kimber Clark built what was asked of them.
A
And nobody Clark was the toilet paper.
B
Was no the industrial put. Kimber Clark or Air in every bathroom. You could have done paper towels. Everyone had a choice.
A
Yeah.
B
And everyone made the wrong choice. And I think as a society, like, we need to just.
A
And on this Tuesday, we're speaking on.
B
It, we're choosing paper towels. So don't be afraid to take them out of the public restrooms and bring them back.
A
Like, we've actually made it increasingly more difficult for people to wash their hands. Like, no wonder there was a global pandemic. You know, I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner. Yucky. Well, well, that concludes the best five. But this does not conclude our show because we have deer toasters, which is brought to you by Thrive Market. And thankfully, I've been seated with the CEO of Thrive Market, their number one customer, it's Ms. Fish.
B
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B
The activity it does. But when she just said like we're paying separately. I don't care how you pay. I guess if you went to a restaurant, you invite a girlfriend to lunch and you have a gift card to like pay for your half, you should like use the gift card to pay for the meal.
A
Well, you know, you and I actually just went out to lunch and I had a gift from card and I used it. Did you know that when we went.
B
Oh, I didn't know they used it. Oh yeah, I think I knew you used it.
A
Yeah, I used it on both of us.
B
But we're not. We're sisters before being friends.
A
Oh, that's beautiful.
B
And I feel so. I'm very generous with you all the time.
A
So I just wanted to bring. Once again making it about myself.
B
I was actually happy for you that you had an opportunity to save money. Cuz you be generous towards me.
A
Wow. Okay.
B
I wasn't going to stop. You could.
A
You know that the gift card didn't went unnoticed.
B
No, it didn't go unnoticed. Well, ungrateful thing is like whether it was a gift card or your money. Yeah.
A
The thing is I don't feel like we can make a general rule here. It's so activity dependent like a meal. It would be nice to just treat something you would ordinarily be paying separately for.
B
Yes, it's a manicure. That's what it is. If you would have been paying separately, which a manicure, of course you would have a service, anything. Pay for yourself however you feel like paying for yourself.
A
But.
B
But if it's something that you're doing together and maybe you would have even treated.
A
I think it's also dependent on the relationship. Like is this the type of person whenever you go, you split it even like my best friend Margo, we have lunch together like multiple times a week and like sometimes she pays and sometimes I pay. It always nets out. So if I had a gift card, I would just use it for both of us, you know.
B
Yeah.
A
But if I'm having lunch with a friend who like I. We always just split it down the middle. We both put our cards in Maybe I wouldn't be.
B
But did you choose the restaurant because you have a gift card? Like, oh, true.
A
Well, also, what type of gift card are we talking about? Is this like an AMEX gift card where you can use it anytime, anywhere, or a gift card to this specific place?
B
I think a gift card to this.
A
Me too.
B
Because an amex gift card, that's like putting down your credit card.
A
Agreed.
B
I think it just depends on the activity and the level of friendship and what's expected. And there's no like, completely wrong way where it's like, oh, that is so offensive. But maybe it would be a nice opportunity for you to treat a friend and, and she'll get you back one time.
A
And also, how did you come about acquiring this gift card? You know, did you like, win it in a raffle at work or was it a gift from your grandmother? I also feel the origin is important.
B
I agree, I agree. In those two, two scenarios. Yeah.
A
Like, sometimes like a gift card just literally falls in your lap.
B
Like your grandmother is not paying for a pedicure for her.
A
For some, yeah. But your work, but the workplace, like white elephant.
B
Yeah.
A
Share.
B
Yeah.
A
So it depends how you acquired it as well. Hey, Jackson. Claude. I need mom advice. A few weeks ago, the mom of a child in my 4 year old's class reached out and asked for my number to send an evite for a party her son wanted to invite my son to. It's now weeks later and I haven't received anything. I feel like it would be embarrassing to say something, but I'm curious. Curious if and when this party is happening. I'm also really wanting to make some mom friends now that my son is little, is a little bit older, and this seemed like a good opportunity, but reaching out seems like a desperate loser thing to do. Do I just wait it out? Thanks. Ooh. Ooh is right. Because I don't know, the thing is, what's the worst that happens? Like, you were like, wanting to connect and like, she. Then she's a mean girl. Or like it was just maybe she wrote your number down wrong or you didn't get it or whatever, Whatever. And like, this is also an opportunity for you, but also your son. And I think like, when you have a kid, like, you can afford to be like a little desperate. I do.
B
Yeah. And it's like, well, maybe it's because you have other plans, so you want to make sure, like, that you have your plans lined up.
A
And I also think, like, this isn't like adult parties where I feel like you would like use an invitation. It's like, she's cool. She's not cool. When you have kids the same age, I feel like it's very much anyone who wants to come, but anyone who wants to come celebrate your kid, like, is welcome.
B
Yeah, yeah, I agree.
A
I'm feeling like it was an oversight.
B
Especially because she was like friendly enough to get your and bring it up and like, want to invite you. So, like you didn't do anything in the last. In the time in between where you didn't see her. So maybe either the party's not happening or she forgot. I think you could follow up.
A
Yeah, but okay, now how.
B
Like I said, she doesn't have her number. Right. Or maybe they exchange numbers.
A
I think you say, hi, can I do anything to help plan? Like, you obviously are coming with your self serving interest because you want you and your son to be invited, but also you have to come providing something too because being like, can I help with the decorations? I don't know. Whatever the fuck people say. Yeah, no, I really don't feel like you should like weenie out and then like miss out on. What if all these moms connect and then like, you miss the boat?
B
Yeah.
A
And your son misses the boat too.
B
Yeah, I'm sure there's like a.
A
You could also be stealth and be like Jackson, whatever your kid's name is, talk to Connor at school and ask him about the party and say that you want to come. And then he'll tell his mom and she'll be like, oh, I forgot to text that wonderful mother I met at the Scholastic book fair.
B
Yeah, moms have a. A lot on their mind.
A
Yeah, I don't think this is me now. There are definitely like, you know, toxic mom groups. Of course.
B
This is not that you didn't do anything in the time between. She wanted to invite you in now, so it's not like she flipped.
A
By the way, as of like yesterday, Meghan Trainor was like still making tiktoks about this mom group thing. And I'm now fully convinced she's the mean one. Like, girl, let the mouse go. No one's talking about it anymore.
B
I haven't seen anything that she's made. I'm sure I'll see it in five days on reels.
A
It's really lame stuff. I can't, I can't deny eye.
B
I don't think she's a mean one though.
A
No, I don't. I was just joking. But like, stop. Yeah, you got away, like relatively unscathed. Let it Go.
B
I think maybe she wanted to be more involved.
A
You know, all press is good press.
B
Look at Hillary. She launched a song.
A
Correct. All right. Our third and final Dear Toasters. Hey, swirlies. I need help on an extremely difficult decision. I'm an ordinary gal in my early 20s, and I somehow just got cast for a reality competition show that shoots in 2020.
B
2026.
A
The problem is I'm supposed to start my first year of medical school at the end of the summer, 2026, which happens to be the time that the show would be shooting. Of course, it's such an amazing and rare opportunity, but to do it, I would have to decline my admission to medical school that I was accepted to, and I would have to reapply to different schools in 2027 and just hope to get in again. I want to live my life to the fullest, but realistically, doing the show would potentially hinder my entire future. Please help. I unfortunately need to know the show.
B
Yeah. Is it worth worth hindering your entire future?
A
There are so few shows that are worth. Even if you got cast in something huge like the Bachelor. I'm sorry? Like, the odds of your season getting any sort of pickup, and then you're the one from the season, the odds are actually not in your favor. And it also just depends what type of person you are. I'm actually a person who, you know, oddly enough, like, really craves stability. I'm not, like, a big risk taker. I would say go to medical school all the way.
B
Yeah. You know what? It does sound like the Bachelor, because they shoot in the fall usually. I was thinking Love island, something like that.
A
Yeah.
B
Not that I think it's Love island because she said it's end of summer, but even something love. Like Love Island. Like, maybe there's three breakout stars. And you know what?
A
Even there's literally one.
B
You know what? I was watching Salt Lake City last night and the first or second episode of the season, and Lisa Barlow, she missed the first cast trip in the first episode, and she's having this lunch with Heather, and she's telling her all the things that the girl said about her and Lisa, like, can't speak. I don't know what. What's happened with her, but she can speak without question. Crying. She seems so upset. The girls are bringing up all these lawsuits about her business, and she's just talking about, like, how this is so hard and so terrible and her friends are so terrible. And I'm just like. She's actually had an amazing career as a people love her so far, and it's like she seems to be at a real low right now. I don't even know what's going on. I can just sense, like, she can't stop crying. I'm like, was it all worth it? Right. Maybe not. You know, I know there's so many great things that come along with, like, being a reality star and a famous person. But. But, like, there's so many negative things, and then there's so many beautiful things. Are just about an ordinary life.
A
Yeah. To me, when it comes to, like, being famous and rich, the best part is the money. Right. And they always say, like, everybody wants to be rich and famous, but give them the rich part, and they'll never ask to be famous. Like, it's so the stability of that can't be understated. But I think being a doctor.
B
Yeah.
A
Is kind of checking that off the list. I'm going medical school.
B
No. And it's really about the fame because Lisa, like, had a thriving business. She hasn't even moved houses since the first season of the show. Like, she's.
A
Yeah.
B
Always done well, but now she has, like, this huge, like, all of this, and it's like. But it's clearly eating away at her.
A
Okay. But I also think I need to know a little bit more about this girl's personality, because some people are really, like, destined to be famous, and they're gonna go on whatever show and they're gonna be the breakout star. Like, you just sort of know that about them. Are you that type of girl? Do a little bit of self reflection. I'm going medical school.
B
Even thinking about the people who went on the Bachelor and were the breakout star without becoming the Bachelor themselves, like, that's okay if you can land that. Maybe throw away medical school. But even the people who had, like, who get a hundred. Hundreds of thousands of followers, like, five years later.
A
Right.
B
What?
A
I guess you could reapply in five years.
B
You could go in five years, but you won't want to. You.
A
This was.
B
And you won't. Yeah.
A
I'm going.
B
I'm. I'm going medical school.
A
I don't think you could regret choosing medical school. I do think you could regret regret choosing the reality show.
B
Yeah.
A
And so that's like the risk versus Reward.
B
Yeah.
A
Yeah. Well, thank you to everybody who wrote.
B
In and for the vulnerability. That's like, not the Bachelor. Like, these big shows. If it's like.
A
Yeah. The only ones we would consider. I would actually. If it's the Bachelor, I would say hard. No ones. I Might be open to talking about Love Island.
B
Oh, really? I was saying no Bachelor. There are so many reality shows that are not. These three that we keep talking about.
A
No, I'm sorry. The Bachelor in reality, like, in the past five years, I literally have heard of one person. Joey Graziad and Kelsey, and I really know them work from Dancing with the Stars, like.
B
But we're about to watch Taylor season. It's about to have a renaissance.
A
I actually like.
B
That's okay. You could say no Bachelor. I'm just saying Bachelor to me is the same as Love Island. Like a huge show.
A
Even Love is Blind. I would say no. Like, the. It's such a flash in the pan. Like, we forgot about.
B
Literally.
A
The only one we know is Megan Sparkle. You could give me a million dollars, Megan, to guess these people's names. Names.
B
However, the only thing I want to say about Love is Blind is like, maybe you could find your husband.
A
Yes. But also medical school. Hello. Yeah, A lot of doctors end up marrying doctors.
B
My point was, and ad love is blind to this, there's literally maybe five to 10 shows that I would say those are the biggest shows. And we can even consider having this conversation. There are hundreds.
A
She said competition series.
B
Okay. Bachelor's competition. Love Island's competition.
A
Oh, really?
B
Love is vine is not competition.
A
I wouldn't say those are competition.
B
Now I'm feeling like Bachelor's competition. Competition.
A
Traders is a competition show. Like Fear Factor.
B
You know what if it was regular people Traders. Well, again, we're talking about the biggest shows, and the biggest shows are worth discussing. What about Temptation Island?
A
Well, girl run.
B
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, if it's one of the other shows.
A
Yeah.
B
That we're not discussing.
A
Yeah. If the show hasn't even come up. Girl Run to medical school. Okay.
B
That's what I'm saying. Thank you.
A
I like that. Well, thanks, everybody who wrote in. Kind of the theme of today was vulnerability. I mean, you opened up, obviously, about the dark stuff you've been dealing with, which we appreciate. Everybody who wrote in was so vulnerable and open with us. I mean, I just feel. I feel free. I feel like actually I haven't been vulnerable.
B
Is there a truth that you want to share for Code Journey's Corner?
A
No. I'm wearing a new bra this morning, one I brought from Tik Tok Shop. Did I tell you that I'm, like, in the process of accruing, like, an.
B
Amazing collection of bras via Tik Tok Shop? Yes. You showed me your bosom. I did. You or you were showing someone else your bosom the other day and I caught a glimpse.
A
Oh yeah, they also sell on Amazon.
B
I know you're happy with them.
A
It's insane actually. I don't know. Like Tik Tok Shop is like the devil's work. Honestly, like, it's so easy to get and I'm like, not. I'm a very smart consumer. I'm very jaded. Like you can't get me with your ads. I bought one and it was like a gateway. This bra is like a very high support one. I'm going to send you some links cuz I know like being a breastfeeding mom is hard to like wear a bra.
B
I recently was not recently. Year or two ago. Like I. I changed my raw and I'm very happy but I'm always open to.
A
I feel like with nursing you just need one that's like cozy but like that does, you know, keep your swirlies at attention.
B
Yeah, well, send me if you like it. So what's the problem? Like just cuz it's Tik tok chop doesn't mean like. No, but you're saying it's the devil's. Like it was bad that you got d. What do you have a great bra?
A
I'm just saying, like it's very easy to get caught up. Like it ships so quickly. It's. Everything is so cheap. And I just think like I've been very good at discerning what's worth getting. Don't just buy stuff on like, I'm like, this is not a personal endorsement of Tick tock Shop. That's what I'm saying.
B
Okay, but you found something good.
A
Amazing. I found like three incredible bras.
B
That's amazing. Incredible. I know.
A
All you need in this life is one good bra.
B
Yeah.
A
And a sister. Oh.
B
Oh, your nails look good. You got your manicure yesterday.
A
I finally got a manicure. Yes.
B
A good one.
A
It's interesting. A lot of salons down here don't mess with the dazzle.
B
The dazzle.
A
And you know I left my dazzle dry at your house.
B
Oh, I byod always.
A
Of course I left it at your house.
B
Got it. So it's not surprising that they don't have dazzle. But I thought you were saying they won't do your dazzle.
A
No, no. If they don't have dazzle, they won't do dazzle.
B
Oh, yeah, they do.
A
I just. I byod but that means they don't know dazzle.
B
I byod and I show them two coats of Face.
A
So we both do Touch of Love, right?
B
Yeah.
A
Yesterday I got strawberry macaron.
B
Dazzle.
A
Yeah, Dazzle. And I ordered it on Amazon. Isn't it pretty?
B
It's very pretty. It looks just like mine.
A
Yeah, but what she was telling me, and she's right. Touch of Love has much more of a white base. You see, mine's like, not as white light.
B
Yeah, yours is like more like ballet slippersy. I always bring my own. My salon recently got dazzle, but for years I've been bringing my own. I say, I bring my base. I say two coats of this. Two coats. Dazzling.
A
Yeah. But even if you bring your own dazzle, which I do, I bring my base, my polish, and my top. There are other things involved in dazzle, like that stuff that they put on.
B
I don't use that stuff.
A
Well, if the salon has dazzle, they know. And like, I went to a girl yesterday. She literally was the CEO of Dazzle Dry. She's like telling me everything.
B
I could bring that stuff. I used to, but then I actually thought it was drying out my nails and now I do it without. And I personally, I don't use that stuff.
A
You know what's so interesting? I was like, definitely a person who benefited from, like, hair and nails wise from being pregnant. That was like, one of my favorite parts. I had the craziest, longest, thick snails, and that did sort of stay with me during breastfeeding. I didn't experience, like, my nails, people saying, like. But now that I've stopped, I feel like the breastfeeding was keeping my nails. I have tiny little nails now, and they're so brittle.
B
Interesting.
A
I literally went to pump hand soap the other day and I broke a nail. At your house.
B
Which hand soap?
A
Okay. I'm so glad you brought it up. Would it kill you and Zach to put a new bottle of hand soap in that outdoor bathroom? Oh, like, literally it was on its last and I just. And my thumb broke.
B
I'm sorry. And, yeah, I couldn't remember the last time someone would have changed that soap. Well, and you sat there.
A
Let my injury be the last sin.
B
Have you experienced hair loss?
A
Not yet. You think it's like, in my future?
B
No, maybe not. You do a lot of preventative things. Like, you take all the things I do, so I think you're good.
A
And I just feel like the Lord knows, like, that's the one thing keeping me. Cuz people were like, did you experience any sort of post? My hair falling out, like, would be the thing. And the Lord, I do believe is protecting me, honestly. And that's on the Lord. Thank you guys so much for listening to the Toast and the Lightning morning show where you deliver the fast side stories you need to know every Monday.
B
Through Friday on YouTube.
A
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Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry
Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2026
In this lively episode of The Toast, sisters Jackie and Claudia Oshry blend personal anecdotes, pop culture commentary, wellness updates, and listener advice with their characteristic humor and candor. With the theme of vulnerability woven throughout, they discuss everything from winter idle time philosophies and chaotic mom life to Harry Styles’ MSG residency, Barbie’s new representation, beauty standards, water brands, and the ethics of gift card usage.
Casual, witty, self-deprecating, and unfiltered—The Toast radiates sisterly banter, honesty, and a refreshing commitment to authenticity. Even when pivoting from lighthearted pop culture to intimate listener advice, Jackie and Claudia maintain a sense of fun and realness, always circling back to relatable themes and frank admissions.
This summary covers all major topics, memorable moments, and listener takeaways from this episode of The Toast, offering a detailed guide for those who missed the show or want to revisit its best bits.