I'm Looking Forward to Cracking Up: Thursday, June 18th, 2026

Summary

The Toast – Episode Summary

Episode Title: “I'm Looking Forward to Cracking Up”
Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry (aka Jax & Sasha)
Date: June 18, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this lively Thursday episode—the final Toast of the week due to Juneteenth—the sisters dive into their recent routines, pop culture drama, TV bingeing, and the latest in celebrity and reality TV news. The theme of looking forward to joyful moments (“cracking up”) weaves through lighthearted personal updates and deeper reflections on high-profile interviews, reality TV sagas, New York Knicks celebrations, and shifting standards in pop culture. Laughter, critical thinking, and a trademark blend of snarky and warm commentary run throughout.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Personal Catch-up: Love Island Break and Nighttime Routines

• Sasha confesses to an unproductive night, obsessing over “wake windows” (00:54–03:13), leading to “rotting and waiting for my food. It was just a bad use of my time.” (02:58)
• Both hosts rave about the “login in the app” creator (Deborah Quack Gilbert), insisting moms and comedy lovers must follow her for relatable humor (02:13)
• Jax shares her more social break: “I can have a friend once a week. And that's kind of my max.” (01:51-01:54)

2. Emily Kaiser on Jay Shetty: Internet Evil & Forgiveness

• Sasha passionately defends influencer Emily Kaiser, referencing an emotional interview on Jay Shetty’s podcast (03:19–06:09)
• “I would lay my life out for Emily Kaiser. I love her so much… it shocks me every time someone reminds me that she's 27.” (03:30)
• Deep dive into public judgment and how Emily processed online hate after her family’s tragedy, “It really speaks to the evil of human nature. Like there are such evil people out there.” (03:49)
• The concept of forgiveness and mature reflection appears: “I'm trying to give him the forgiveness that I would so badly want him to have given me if it was me in this situation.” (04:44)
• Both hosts share their admiration for Jay Shetty’s interview style and how he makes guests feel comfortable sharing vulnerable moments (06:13)
• Light admission: “You do this podcast every day. You don't cry every day when you're pregnant.” (06:45)

3. TV & Pop Culture Updates

• Spring (“Four Seasons”) show gets praise for clever writing and making Sasha “actually crack up at multiple lines.” (08:53)
  • Quote: “I'm looking forward to cracking up—that’s me every day.” (10:03)
• Love Island banter—how skipping one night causes withdrawal but is “good, but it’s bad.” (07:38–08:06)
• Side convos about social media (Sasha’s accidental repost, politics online), and a recurring inside joke: “Our new favorite acronym... looking forward to cracking up.” (10:33–10:40)

4. Snack & Brand Culture

• Tangents about Drizzalicious snacks, their rise to bodega domination, and hopes for a collaborative flavor (12:15–13:42)
  • Quote: “I dream of Drizzalicious.” (13:38)

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FAST FIVE: Pop Culture, Reality TV, & Sports News

1. Olivia Wilde on “Call Her Daddy” – Handling Drama & Perception (20:56–29:41)

• Olivia’s interview covers her public divorce, “Don’t Worry Darling” drama, relationship with Harry Styles, and the parasocial chaos from Harry’s fans.
• The sisters wish Olivia had acknowledged how much jealousy fueled the backlash: “Younger girls are jealous because it’s my guy… Older women are jealous because you’re living my fantasy.” (23:00)
• Honest take: “As far as for the endless tabloid gossip and all the noise out there… The internet feeds itself. I don’t feel the need to contribute. I think it’s sufficiently well nourished.” —Olivia Wilde (28:08)
• Persistent questions about the Shia LaBeouf situation and Florence Pugh’s rumored issues with Wilde still linger without satisfying answers.

2. Summer House Drama: Lindsay, Sierra, Miha, & Unspoken Realities (31:39–37:11)

• Lindsay Hubbard weighs in on messy off-screen drama on Threads, hinting at Miha talking to ex-West despite public empowerment narratives.
• Hosts note the shift in audience sentiment: “For the first time in this whole saga, it was the first time that Sierra got like something other than just unbridled support and love.” (33:16)
• They critique how “empowering” storylines sometimes miss the mark, and lament untouched topics (like West’s family tragedy and lack of closure).
• Quote: “We are capable of processing multiple emotions at once. It’s relevant information, sorry.” (37:18)

3. New York Knicks Parade & Documentary News (40:37–44:47)

• Reflections on the parade: “All the checkpoints were completely full by 6am. My fucking nightmare.” (40:55)
• Ben Stiller working on a documentary about the Knicks with A24, HBO, and the NBA—hosts hope for quality storytelling, not “shaky iPhone footage.”
• Side mention: Kylie Jenner and Timothée Chalamet spotted on Citi Bikes in NYC: “She’s on a Citi bike in ballet flats—so crazy!” (44:51)

4. “Dancing With the Stars” Cast Update & Brooklyn Beckham Tangents (53:37–59:04)

• Jimmy Kimmel’s sidekick, Guillermo Rodriguez, announced as contestant—hosts approve: “Guillermo shall be the Andy Richter of the season.” (53:51)
• Casting speculation and dismay at Brooklyn Beckham’s latest ad campaign and public family drama: “There’s nobody in modern media or culture who I currently hold a lower opinion of than Brooklyn Beckham.” (56:50)

5. Jelly Roll & Bunny’s Breakup – Different Life Paths (65:01–68:00)

• Rumors: “Jelly has embraced a more faith-centered lifestyle, while Bunny continued building the outspoken and provocative brand,” leading to divergence.
• Sasha muses on the narrative: “I did think that a lot of his, like, transition to, like, faith music content, like, felt a little performative… but good to know that's wrong; it actually is how he's changed in real life.”
• Reflection on public scrutiny regarding celebrity weight loss, GLP-1s, and peptides—“male weight loss is not personally interesting and I don't care.” (71:03)
• Insight into shifting body standards, Ozempic discourse, and the double standards of who gets questioned about weight loss.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On internet hate and empathy:
  “The fact that there is a person on this earth who could find one negative thing to say about Emily Kaiser… it really speaks to the evil of human nature.” —Sasha (03:49)

• On Olivia Wilde’s public scrutiny:
  “When I talk about, like, insufferable… fake feminists, I’m always low key talking about Olivia Wilde. She’s the example in my head.” —Sasha (22:06)

• On reality TV scrutiny and empowerment:
  “On paper it’s an empowering story. In practice, I’m not liking it.” —Jax (35:35)

• Comedy as self-care:
  “I'm looking forward to cracking up. It's one of my favorite hobbies.” —Sasha (10:40)

• Celebrity family drama:
  “There are hard people to dislike… so to go out on your own—never give us a good reason—and now monetize it… you just look like a spoiled brat. No one… it’s really hard to get people on your side here, Brooklyn.” —Sasha (58:30)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Intro & Personal Catch-up: 00:25–03:19
• Emily Kaiser/Jay Shetty discussion: 03:19–06:09
• Pop culture TV/Snack culture: 08:46–13:42
• Fast Five Stories Begin: 20:56
  • Olivia Wilde/Call Her Daddy: 20:56–29:41
  • Summer House Drama: 31:39–37:11
  • Knicks Parade/Doc, Kylie + Timmy: 40:37–44:47
  • DWTS + Brooklyn Beckham/Athlete speculation: 53:37–59:04
  • Jelly Roll & Bunny breakup/Body standard chat: 65:01–73:24

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Tone and Style

• Chatty, inside-jokey, but sharp and discerning
• Compassionate, with occasionally snarky or tongue-in-cheek takes on celebrities
• The sisters frequently reflect broader cultural conversations—about empathy, judgment, and the sway of online opinion—while rooting their discussion in their personal tastes and lives

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For Listeners Who Missed The Episode

This episode is a perfect encapsulation of The Toast’s blend: rapid-fire conversation, sisterly banter, sharp pop culture analysis, and a recurring thread of both “cracking up” and critical thinking about the way women (and men) are treated across media. Whether you’re invested in Love Island routines, Knicks lore, influencer drama, or the fate of peanut butter snacks, this one is loaded with laughs, hot takes, and a little bit of soul.

Transcript

[Sasha]

Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast.

[Jax]

It's Jackson Claude and we're your host.

[Sasha]

It's your favorite show.

[Jax]

The best five things you need to know.

[Sasha]

We'll start your day off.

[Jax]

Swirly.

[Sasha]

It's the Toast.

[Jax]

They sound amazing.

[Sasha]

Welcome back to the Toast and happy Thursday. That does feel like a Friday, because today is our final episode of the week. Tomorrow is June. Juneteenth. And so today is the final day. So if you've got something to say, if you've got something to say, say it.

[Jax]

I will say it. Co journa. Frederick.

[Sasha]

Okay, Frederick.

[Jax]

I'll say it.

[Sasha]

Say it. And you know, I get the sense that you've been wanting to say it.

[Jax]

Oh.

[Sasha]

Oh, no.

[Jax]

I'm literally coming into the show like bling slate. Like, mind cleared. Nothing on my mind.

[Sasha]

I have so much on my mind. But that's just sort of what happens when you are like a woman of a certain intellect, don't you find?

[Jax]

Yes, I do find what's on your mind, Coacher and or share everything.

[Sasha]

Like, everything. Last night was my one night off from Love island and like, I didn't make the most.

[Jax]

Oh, I made the most of it. I went out to dinner, like a two and a half hour dinner. And I got home like around the same time I'd be wrapping up Love island. And that is how I spent my night off. And it was like I wanted to see my friend and I literally told her I can only go to dinner, like Wednesday and Saturday, but, like, Wednesday's better for me. I'm already wearing makeup from work. So we made it work. And you know what? It was really great to see my friend and to have a friend and to have a life. And I'll be back at the television for the next six nights.

[Sasha]

It's nice to have a friend.

[Jax]

I can have a friend once a week.

[Sasha]

Once a week. And that's kind of my max.

[Jax]

Yeah. So I made the most. You didn't make the most.

[Sasha]

No, I didn't. Like, things just sort of got away from me. I've been really kind of like, nutty about my wake windows. I find that if the second wake window is not five hours.

[Jax]

That girl, that creator, what's her name? I just followed her. She's my new favorite creator.

[Sasha]

I just followed her too.

[Jax]

Oh, my God. I actually laugh out loud at her stuff.

[Sasha]

Login in the app. Yeah, the login in the app girl. That's her name.

[Jax]

Yeah, her name is. Hold on, you guys.

[Sasha]

I just followed.

[Jax]

Her name is Yesterday Deborah Quack. Gilbert. If you are a mother, you have to follow. If you're, you know, if you like comedy, you have to follow her. But like you will seriously relate if you're a mom. It's tears in my eyes.

[Sasha]

Yes, it's true. So I am the login in the app girl. I just like kind of really need my second wake window to be five hours because then I get to sleep till 7, 7:30. Like that's just sort of. So when you wake up late from a nap, like we didn't go to bed till 7:30. So then it was just sort of like already deep into the night at 7:30. And then like the sushi we ordered like was at the restaurant but the courier wasn't there. It was just like drama. By the time I ate dinner, it was like 9 o'. Clock. It was time for bed. Like I didn't do anything productive. I didn't watch anything. I didn't read anything. I just like rotted and waited for my food. It was just like a bad use of my time.

[Jax]

I'm sorry. That happens.

[Sasha]

I hate like it was upsetting.

[Jax]

I'm very sorry. Maybe next Wednesday you'll have better luck out there.

[Sasha]

Yeah, I did actually. That's not true. I watched one thing. I watched Emily Kaiser on Jay Shetty. Not the whole thing yet. I just want to say because I don't feel like it gets said enough that I would lay my life out for Emily Kaiser. I love her so much. She, it like shocks me every time someone reminds me that she's 27.

[Jax]

Wow.

[Sasha]

And that when her, her, when that incident with her son occurred, she was 25. Like that's insane. It's also insane. And it really speaks to like the evil nature of Internet. And I'm sorry. Mainly women that like she's somebody who gets hate.

[Jax]

Yeah.

[Sasha]

You know, even the comments, like I, they're overwhelmingly positive. But like the fact that there is a person on this earth who could find one negative thing to say about Emily Kaiser and what she went through, like it's, it really speaks to like the, the evil of human nature. Like there are such evil people out there. I think she's so well spoken in the interview and I thought Jay Shetty did an amazing job. Like it's, it's a tough interview to, to conduct. It was just like, it's heartbreaking and she's so mature. She just says things and I'm like, oh my God. Because I think a big question is like, you know, this incident with her son happened while she Was out of the house. Like, how do you forgive your husband?

[Jax]

Yeah, I see all the comments are

[Sasha]

like, if that was my husband, it's a girl. Shut the fuck up. Like seriously, shut the fuck up. About to choke someone in the. No.

[Jax]

And I think you think, like, if that was your husband, like, you don't know how you could ever forgive them. And she explains how like she went through all of those feelings. Yeah.

[Sasha]

But he also said like, this was a preventable accident. So like it literally it could have been her. Like.

[Jax]

Yeah. And that's what, like sort of.

[Sasha]

And she was like, I'm trying to give him the forgiveness that I would so badly want him to have given me if it was me in this situation versus him. And it's just like, that's a literally a 27 year old girl. Like, it's just insane to think about her level of maturity and what she's been through and how she's handled the whole thing. And like, and coming back, she has to work so like still making content. Like, it's insane when you think about her age. And I thought the interview was excellent. And I love her so much and I will seriously defend her always. Like, she's my number one and she's also my comfort creator.

[Jax]

Like, yeah.

[Sasha]

And when we were talking yesterday on the toast about like doing the dishes, like, that's her. I love her.

[Jax]

I know. And it's like, aside from the fact like who could have something negative to say to a person who's like grieving and so heartbroken, but it's like even before all of that, like her content is just like pargy and lovely and like, really, what negative thing would you have to say about any of that? People signed away.

[Sasha]

They do. It's. The whole situation has really spoken to how awful. Like, even when the situation was unfolding and we weren't entirely sure if this situation was about Emily, people were showing up at her house, you know, going to the city hall, trying to unseal documents. Like just genuine evil walks among us. And it's chill. This was a chilling reminder of that. And I just love her. Like, I will like seriously protect her at all costs.

[Jax]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Sasha]

That's what I did last night.

[Jax]

No, I've been seeing clips from and everyone is like sharing that. It was just so amazing.

[Sasha]

It was amazing. Like it was amazing.

[Jax]

Yeah. That's a really great, like, place to, to go and share.

[Sasha]

I don't know if I knew that things. Did they announce it or anything or.

[Jax]

Not until like the day before.

[Sasha]

Got it okay. Yeah, I didn't know that. And I. Yeah, it's a perfect place. He's so good.

[Jax]

Yeah.

[Sasha]

Did you see he just signed a huge deal with Netflix?

[Jax]

I saw. And he brought a tear out of turdi, don't forget.

[Sasha]

Well, 100. I. Yes. I also went on Jay Shadow. Yeah. And I cried the whole time I was pregnant. Not that I probably. I probably would have cried regardless.

[Jax]

You know, you do this podcast every day. You do this podcast every day. You don't cry every day when you're pregnant.

[Sasha]

I do cry a lot. Either from laughing or crying.

[Jax]

I guess you. I guess you. You have cried. I wouldn't say you cry a lot.

[Sasha]

No, I've probably cried on this podcast. Are we talking about, like, crying from laughter or.

[Jax]

No, no, no, no.

[Sasha]

I probably cried, like, 10 times over eight years.

[Jax]

No, that's so. That's not a lot.

[Sasha]

No, it's not. It's not. But I did cry on Jay Shetty. That's what he does. He talks about, like, the hard stuff. And I was also pregnant. Just.

[Jax]

Yeah.

[Sasha]

I want credit.

[Jax]

No, but it was a very revelatory episode. Not to make it, like, about.

[Sasha]

No, I would never.

[Jax]

I did it. It was me. I did it. I made it.

[Sasha]

It was her mama's getter.

[Jax]

Well, we have some other podcasting news today. The podcasts are making news while Levia took a night off. Yeah. Olivia Wilde on call her daddy, mentioning it all. Yeah.

[Sasha]

Love island not being on was lovely. Although I did miss my peeps.

[Jax]

Like, I know I was thinking a little bit, like, I was having a little bit of withdrawal.

[Sasha]

Like, it's good, but it's bad, you

[Jax]

know, like, it's good.

[Sasha]

It is.

[Jax]

It's good, but it's bad. Yeah, we could say that. We could say it. And we are committed to watching it. I've gotten to, like, a good routine with it. So, like, people who are, like, keep watching or stop watching. Like, I'm keeping watching until further notice.

[Sasha]

Same. What else is new with you, Jax? You're wearing all pink. You're looking like a little ballerina today.

[Jax]

Thank you so much. In honor of Ballerina Farm, what's new with me? I've got a party loaf started this morning. I'm happy to say that the starter is right. Rising. She has risen.

[Sasha]

Yes.

[Jax]

And I made a loaf a couple days ago with my new starter that is like, you know, my relative, but distant relative. And we are getting closer. The loaf was pargy. It always is. Thank you. And I've got one going again today, so I'm in loaf mode, you know.

[Sasha]

Oh, yeah.

[Jax]

Rise and grind.

[Sasha]

Literally. So glad to hear.

[Jax]

Yeah.

[Sasha]

The starter.

[Jax]

The start. Yeah. The starters come full circle. Okay, never mind.

[Sasha]

I actually did watch something last night. I watched and, you know, I have this, like, toxic relationship with this show. Four seasons.

[Jax]

I've seen it the first season.

[Sasha]

Oh, did you? The second season is out. I'm telling you, I like this show so much. Like, it's so not me. It is hysterical. Like, it's very rare that I watch a show and I actually, like, laugh out loud, but there's so many. The writing on this show is excellent. I was, like, cracking up at multiple. Like, just conversations. It's such a good show. I'm into spring, so I'm in season number two. I really like it also reminds me of postpartum, because that's when I watched it the first, and it was like, such a sweet little show. I really like it.

[Jax]

Why do you feel like it's so not you? It's like Tina Fey.

[Sasha]

I don't know. It just feels. Not me. It's also not. It's kind of like a show for boomers.

[Jax]

I don't think so, because that's not the demo of, like, the people like Coleman Domingo.

[Sasha]

Yes. It's. It's a much. It's. It's an older show. And Coleman Domingo, by the way, is the star of the show. He's seriously so funny. I don't know if I've ever seen him in anything comedic. Like, in Euphoria. He's kind of, like, serious. Oh, my God. Hysterical. I'm always cracking up at him and his husband. I think the show gears more towards, like, an older gen, and I never see anyone talking about it, like, is it popular?

[Jax]

I think that it is. What's that viral clip that's like, I'm looking. Oh. From Lizzie McGuire premiere of the Little Brother. I'm looking forward to cracking up. Cracking up.

[Sasha]

That's literally me. When I'm SAT for four seasons, I think I'm looking forward to cracking up.

[Jax]

That's me every day. Like, yeah, I'm constantly cracking and. Or looking forward to cracking.

[Sasha]

It's one of my favorite activities, cracking up. And when I. And I feel like a lot of times you say LOL or LMFAO and like, you're over exaggerating. Not me. I am. When I'm cracking, I'm cracking.

[Jax]

Yeah, I see you.

[Sasha]

I see you. I'm cracking up. Our new favorite acronym that we invented.

[Jax]

Looking forward to cracking up.

[Sasha]

I really am. It's one of my favorite. Like, my hobbies include cracking up.

[Jax]

I agree wholeheartedly.

[Sasha]

Not my sister Olivia calling me.

[Jax]

Oh, pick up. Tell her she's live. Let's see. Let's get a new mama update.

[Sasha]

Oh, my God, she's so funny. She's right. Oh, she's like, I realize you're recording, but I reposted something really weird on Tick Tock. And she was like, you might want to unrepost this.

[Jax]

Tell us what it is.

[Sasha]

I didn't repost this. It's like, okay, maybe she's doing a prank. No, no, she's right.

[Jax]

What was it?

[Sasha]

Thank you. It was like, low key politics. Like, I'm not getting involved.

[Jax]

Politics?

[Sasha]

Yeah, politics I'm not even involved in. Like, oh, my God. Rail. No, no, it was just, like, drama.

[Jax]

What's the drama?

[Sasha]

I'll tell you about it later. If you saw me repost that. Yes, it was an accident.

[Jax]

I need to know what it was.

[Sasha]

I was thinking, like, who the is calling me? Everybody knows. I never get calls during the toast. Everyone in my life knows. Do not look for me before noon.

[Jax]

No.

[Sasha]

And I'm.

[Jax]

I'm on do not disturb. And then yesterday it was like three o', clock, and I just happened to see I had a missed call, like, while we were doing the toast from someone who, like, doesn't know me like that. And I was like, well, oh, my gosh, I have to call this individual back. It was very important. And I got a hold of her, but, like, I could have missed that.

[Sasha]

Have I talked about Drizzalicious here on this pod?

[Jax]

Yeah, we. We talk about it a lot.

[Sasha]

Oh, do we? Okay. Drizzlicious is like having a national moment. I don't know where the it came from, but I just found out it's a Jewish owned brand. Sly.

[Jax]

I mean, of course, licious. They should. I should do a sponsorship with them. Lish.

[Sasha]

I just want to put it out there that I would like to do a collaborative flavor.

[Jax]

Okay.

[Sasha]

So the bodega by my house, like, is obviously like a supplier because they have every flavor and every.

[Jax]

No. The amount of shelf space this brand gets. And even before it, like, this big renaissance, like, it just showed up one day and it took over the shelves. Like, at Publix, like, you had no choice but to buy it. And I'm glad because I love it. But, like, like, we did not have a choice.

[Sasha]

Yeah. Remember when everybody one day just like, showed up wearing the bar sweatshirts and I was like, where? Who? What? When that's how I feel about Jizzalicious. It's everywhere and now.

[Jax]

But it's everywhere for a reason.

[Sasha]

In my mahjong group, when we play, everybody brings a new flavor. So yesterday we did birthday cake, which I loved. And then I bought some, like, on my bodega for my house. We've done cinnamon swirl. I need to try. We just brought home chocolate strawberry, which I'm a little suspicious about. I've only had one flavor that's legit bad, and it's the lemon. But somebody at mahjong was like, have you guys had the lemon? It's the best. I'm like, oh, you're disgusting.

[Jax]

You're not.

[Sasha]

Like, it's so personal.

[Jax]

It is. But I feel like that's pretty objective when you do a flavor with them. It should be called turtle ish. Turtle licious.

[Sasha]

I seriously love Drizzalicious so much. Turtle delicious. Okay, wait. We could do Drizzle Licious Externie. And it's like a really chocolate flavor. It's like chocolate.

[Jax]

That's great.

[Sasha]

They'll love that. I love Drizzalicious. I wish I meant it myself. I dream of Drizzalicious.

[Jax]

That's so crazy. I know. Well, the place looks great. Let's get into the story. Yeah. We've got a lot to do today. We've got to wrap up the week in a party manner. So without further ado, here are the fast five stories that you to do need to know.

[Sasha]

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[Jax]

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[Sasha]

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[Jax]

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[Sasha]

It's also a little bit more of an adult treat. Don't you find the kids love ouchine?

[Jax]

Yeah, they do. But you know, this. I would say this is like the mama version, and this is the tot.

[Sasha]

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[Jax]

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[Sasha]

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[Jax]

It's croc season. I'm finding my shoes.

[Sasha]

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[Jax]

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[Sasha]

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[Jax]

Thank you, Turt Pass.

[Sasha]

You're welcome.

[Jax]

Our first story aforementioned Olivia Wilde on Call Her Daddy. She is addressing the Don't Worry Darling drama. Her divorce, her relationship with Harold Stiles.

[Sasha]

I also think that this interview is like, I'm back. I didn't know she left, but yeah, I guess she has been relatively quiet.

[Jax]

She has been quiet. I guess she has a new movie coming out.

[Sasha]

Directing or starring?

[Jax]

I probably directing and starring. Doesn't she do both?

[Sasha]

She's so funny to me. Like, she kind of. I kind of like, missed her. She is like a lot of guys, like dream girl. Like, I don't really know where she came from. I don't.

[Jax]

The O.C.

[Sasha]

yeah. Yeah.

[Jax]

She.

[Sasha]

I just kind of like she sort of passed me by and now fandom.

[Jax]

But yeah.

[Sasha]

Obsessed with her.

[Jax]

Well, then she sort of took a left turn.

[Sasha]

Yes. And I think there was a lot. She's a good guest for Call Her Daddy because she has, like, a lot of things to talk about.

[Jax]

She's got a lot of explaining to do.

[Sasha]

She does her public divorce, which was just so crazy. Like the rumors about the nanny laying in front of the car. The divorce papers on stage, which she talked about on the podcast.

[Jax]

The movie that felt like a real

[Sasha]

movie, of course, the Harry Styles relationship. And then the movie shy. When I talk about, like, insufferable, like, feminine female females, like feminists, fake feminists. I'm always like, low key talking about Olivia Wilde. Like, she's the example in my head that I use for just like, insufferable women. Talking about women who are actually like, not those types. I think about, like, Emily Ratajkowski, too. I think of them in the same bucket. So I'm really not like her number one fan. I do think the interview was good for her. She came across across really likable and honest. I think obviously the most important thing is her relationship with Harry Styles. And what I wish she had just said is, like, a big you to everyone. Because Alex is like. I mean, like, I can't believe, like, why everyone? And it's like, well, they're just jealous.

[Jax]

Like. Yeah.

[Sasha]

We wouldn't just acknowledge the jealousy thing. First of all, younger girls are jealous because it's like, this is my guy. Who are you? Older women are jealous. You're living my fantasy. Like, the element of jealousy didn't come up in the conversation. And I wish it did because, like, that was the whole thing.

[Jax]

No, and also, just, like, they love Harry. That's not who they wanted to see him with.

[Sasha]

Well, she did say talk about the parasocial relationship his fans have. And she was very particular about her wording because she knows, you know, she's been. She's seen their wrath, and I don't think she wanted to feel it again. But there are a lot of mentally ills in that. It is can border on being a toxic, sad community. And so I do feel for her. That could not have been easy, honestly. It's the idea of you. It's literally that book.

[Jax]

Well, yeah, that was based on them, Right. What came out before came out first.

[Sasha]

It was art imitating. No, it was life imitating art. It was kind of spooky how similar it was.

[Jax]

Yeah. Oh, that's crazy. Well, she talks about a lot. She talked about the Don't Worry Darling drama, which was the craziest drama of its year. She talked about how it was Covid, so everything was already, like, upside down. I think it was like, 2020. The film came out in 2022. I mean, Covid went on. When did it end?

[Sasha]

I'm sorry, that's not.

[Jax]

Actually. I think it was. I think it was, like, Omnichrome.

[Sasha]

No, I'm sorry. When we blame Covid for things, you get 2020 and 2021. That's it.

[Jax]

But when was Omni.

[Sasha]

Yeah, but Omni Chrome people were like, we were out. Like, we were being more careful. But, like, everyone was out.

[Jax]

Not everyone.

[Sasha]

I'm talking about being jailed. Like, that's Covid. Oh, you know what? I fell down a rabbit hole today. Are you familiar the redheads covering, like, the Amy Griffin drama?

[Jax]

Who's that?

[Sasha]

So Amy Griffin wrote a book.

[Jax]

Yes, a memoir. But then her classmate said, this happened to Me.

[Sasha]

So it's the memoir about like discovering that she had been sexually assaulted as a child only because she did mdma. And the memories came back to her, like, she had no memory of it. And then a former schoolmate of hers was like, excuse me, this happened to me. It's like a Jane Doe lawsuit. And she was like, what the hell are you talking about? New York Times did, like, a whole investigation, like, supporting the Jane Doe's claim. Now the author's heading back. And you know what? I'm. I'm just on the side of whoever's telling me their story because I was listening to, like, somebody break down Amy Griffin's version, and I'm like, oh, I believe you. So I'm not 100. It's kind of a crazy saga. I need a movie about the saga to explain it to me fully.

[Jax]

And what did Amy Griffin say in her defense?

[Sasha]

In her. She poked a lot of holes in Jane Doe's proof, making Jane Doe, like, actually look, like, completely like a liar. I don't know. Like, it was. She was also coming for the New York Times, saying that the New York Times was, like, a little shot day in their investigation, which I do believe as well. So it's kind of a Saga I'm not 100 kept up on.

[Jax]

But I think you would also have to read the book.

[Sasha]

Yeah, no, I didn't read any of it. And I think if it was a Bell Burdens of its time, like, on a smaller scale, it was like the it book last year.

[Jax]

Last year. I wasn't reading last year.

[Sasha]

She was like, the darling of literacy. And then this former classmate is like, excuse me, you stole. This is my trauma. Like, and it is very neat.

[Jax]

Is it possible that it happened to both of them?

[Sasha]

So I think Amy Griffin is alleging, like, it also happened to me.

[Jax]

Yeah. And who did it? Amy Griffin, like, what happened?

[Sasha]

Oh, I don't know.

[Jax]

Oh, okay. Okay. Well, back to this story.

[Sasha]

Sorry. Yeah.

[Jax]

Olivia Wilde's talking about all the drama. I mean, that was the biggest story of its time. And it was. It was a little bit of COVID She said, I've never felt more disconnected from the person that we people were talking about. It's also very strange to see complete fiction traded as fact. There was all this public madness, but my private life was very far from it and very. Actually kind of wholesome and sweet. I had a lot of real joy and happiness during that time. It was like the tornado was right outside the door. And if you were inside, you were like, it's so nice. Then you'd open the door and a cow and a tractor would fly by. So I guess she's talking about, like, in her relationship with Harry at the time, she was in a happy place because they were together. And, you know, she's saying it was just, like, very misconstrued, and she wanted to be like, can I just talk to people? Can I go and say, like, that's not true? And it was like, no, that won't help. And that was really hard. And now she sort of feels like she should have shared that at the time. She think. She says, I think that in my own attempt to be strong and to kind of, like, rise above it, it came off as inauthentic.

[Sasha]

Okay. Like, I don't really care about any element of this besides Shia Shaya. Shaya. Because all of the drama up until that point, that could be explained away, but it was, I feel, very detrimental to her image because it was so incongruous with this. The future is female girl boss, but you're bringing in a predator and begging him to come work on your movie, even though Your star, Flo, Ms. Flo, has asked you not to, and you're now caught on video begging this really abusive, ill actor to come on your movie.

[Jax]

Yeah. Yeah. So it's like, I wish she. So she's on the show, like, saying it's not true, but, like, there are things that we know as.

[Sasha]

So what's not? What is not?

[Jax]

Oh, that, like, you know, the narrative that, like, everyone was fighting on the movie that Florence, you know, had to produce herself because Olivia's off with Harry, and, like.

[Sasha]

Yeah, I want to say I don't believe that that was.

[Jax]

But here are the things that are true. The video, the.

[Sasha]

Of her.

[Jax]

The fact that Florence did not promote the movie. There was obviously a schism. Did Chris Pine spit on Harry Styles?

[Sasha]

I don't think he did so.

[Jax]

But, like, can you. Can you address that?

[Sasha]

That was such a crazy time. Yeah. I feel like she went into detail on a lot of stuff except this. She spoke very generally about it, and it's like, well, I would like to know more. To me, the only thing she's really guilty of is the Shia thing, and that's a big thing, and I feel like it was very damaging. Like, she was a lot of, like, a lot of swirlies, like, number one girl boss inspiring female director. And it's like, here you are being awful. So she didn't really talk about that part, which to me was the most damning part of the whole saga. Yes. The spitting Miss Flow having Sex on set. But, like, no, the Shia thing.

[Jax]

There were so many, like, iconic things that came out of this saga. Shia Shai Shaya, a movie that feels like a real movie. Even when she addressed the rumors, she said, as far as. For the endless tabloid gossip and all the noise out there, I mean, the Internet feeds itself, I don't feel the need to contribute. I think it's sufficiently well nourished. Okay.

[Sasha]

Like, yeah, we're getting back to, like, that insufferable female girl boss. But this is a good get for Alex.

[Jax]

Yeah, no, it's a good interview on both their parts. I like. I think a good interview in general is, like, someone who has been talked about a lot, misunderstood in some ways, who's ready to, like, speak their mind and. And let people, you know, take it or leave it.

[Sasha]

Yeah. She has had so many arcs in her career because she was also talking on the podcast about how she was, at one point, Maxim, Hot 100 number one girl. And it's like, oh, yeah. That was, like, I think on the heels of the OC and that's why she's like, so many guys, like, dream girl.

[Jax]

Yeah.

[Sasha]

Because she is also that.

[Jax]

Yeah.

[Sasha]

Now she's like girl boss director. But the Maxim to girl boss pipeline, I guess, is a thing.

[Jax]

I do think that it's a thing because you get, like, so objectified.

[Sasha]

Yeah.

[Jax]

Like, sexualizing. You're like, don't look at me.

[Sasha]

Look at the world. Here's my work. Yeah.

[Jax]

Yeah. And so you're, like, off camera because you want to show everyone the work, what's inside. Don't look at me, but I'm gonna star in the movie. But I'm not filming.

[Sasha]

But she's not filming.

[Jax]

Right. She talked about getting the divorce paper served to her on stage, like, and how shocking that was.

[Sasha]

She said that Jason Sudeikis, like, to this day, swears that he did not tell the lawyers to do that. And she says, like, I do know that lawyers do get crazy. So for the sake, she said, I have to believe him. Like, I didn't get the sense that she instinctually believed him. She was like, I have to believe him, because if I think the alternative, like, it will ruin her life.

[Jax]

Yeah. I don't know these people, but I. I guess I just, like, believe people, you know?

[Sasha]

Yeah.

[Jax]

Until you give me a reason not to.

[Sasha]

She thought she was in the clear because, like, while it was humiliating, it was this, like, corporate, no phones event. So she was like, all right, that was humiliating. But, like, it's in this room by the time she's off stage, she's like, it was everywhere. So much so that, like, a few weeks later, she met Tom Cruise. Yeah. And he was like, I'm so sorry that happened to you.

[Jax]

Yeah. And she, like, didn't realize that Tom Cruise had seen it.

[Sasha]

Yeah. That's how big it was. It really was huge. I forgot. I forget. Like, there was a time where on this show, we were talking about Olivia Wilde every day.

[Jax]

Yeah. Yeah. Crazy times.

[Sasha]

Crazy times.

[Jax]

Anyway, enjoy the episode. Are you ready for our next story? Lindsay Hubbard is kind of coming for Mija.

[Sasha]

For me. But, like, Lindsay invented me high. Lindsay was the one who, like, got. Who started the whole thing with the horse hair.

[Jax]

Okay. It's all going down threads. Lindsay is reacting to Sierra's. To Sierra. No, I have the screenshots. You don't need to download threads, but, you know, cryptic post, but cloudy. Even if you downloaded threads, like, you might miss this, so it's fine. So she's reacting to Sierra posted a cryptid post, and now Lindsay's calling out Miha. So Sierra posted an image, like, a gif of, like, a girl, like, like, sort of seeming, like, exhausted by something. Okay. And Lindsay replied, assuming this is because Miha is telling you one thing and still talking to west on the phone every day, Then someone else tweeted separately, like a Bravo account said, Miha and Wes talked for six hours post Reunion girl. And Miha responded saying, and if I want to yell at my ex for six hours straight, that's my God given. Right?

[Sasha]

Oh, okay. So, you know, we posted a clip of our conversation from yesterday.

[Jax]

Yeah.

[Sasha]

Talking about how that was, like, a low point of the episode and Sierra's really above that. And I. I was a little afraid to post.

[Jax]

I know. I was actually surprised that we posted it.

[Sasha]

Like, I know, because I just feel like, and rightfully so, like, we shouldn't be criticizing Sierra right now. She is the victim. And it's like, it's. It was sort of. It was a very hot take. And I feel like if you say anything in Summerhouse discourse that's not, like, slay, slay, slay Sierra, like, you're the opposition. So I was a little afraid, and I was shocked to see the comments, like, were overwhelmingly agreeing with us that, like, it was just a bad look for Sierra and that Miha is just kind of, like, not the vibe. And so I think that the fact that the clip was so well received speaks to the general tone of, like, how the episode was received. And I think for the first time in this whole saga, it was the first time that Sierra got like something other than just unbridled support and love. And so I don't know if that makes her hate MIHA or. But she, like, I don't know. She. I don't know. Like she did sit there and like support everything she was saying, even though. Yeah, Miha, like I just want to say are not the same.

[Jax]

But Sierra posting that gif, like there was nothing to do with Miha and her posting that it was Lindsay who made about me right now. Maybe Lindsay knows more than we do and she knows that that is about Miha. But like, I don't even think it's Sierra turning on Miha yet. I think it's just like Lindsay out of nowhere just really calling it like she sees it. And I guess Lindsay's beyond the six hour conversation, which I can forgive. A six hour conversation. Like, listen, apparently had a year long relationship. It's coming to an end. The reunion was the final thing. Six hours, let's get after it. Whatever. But Lindsay saying that MIHA is still talking to west on the phone every day and saying that yesterday.

[Sasha]

Yeah. I fear that all of this is only sort of supporting and furthering the idea that Miha will be a new castmate on Southern House.

[Jax]

And but the more that Miha engages with the show, the more it's clear that she should not be on the show. But the show is taking it as like, oh, she's the storyline now, but like, no, she's the storyline. And the, the line is saying no, no, because we felt that way. Other people felt that way. I'm not seeing a lot of like love and hate.

[Sasha]

Love.

[Jax]

And, and it's not even that I'm seeing hate for me. I'm seeing a lot of disinterest. And I said to you which is worse? Miha is the dino of Summer House. Yeah, like I care about what's happening on this show yet.

[Sasha]

Agreed. And also her storyline is very much still connected to west who has been fired. So if we're not gonna hear, if we're not gonna have west on the show. And here's a girl who's like whole thing is that she's still wrapped up with Wes.

[Jax]

Like that doesn't help, but I think probably the network and maybe some people would find it empowering that it's like he, you know, treated me how the way that he did, thought that that

[Sasha]

episode with Sierra would be empowering too and it fell flat.

[Jax]

Yeah, Yeah. I think, you know, the idea that like she. He kept her off the show. He didn't want to put her on the show. He kept her in the dark, and now she took his job. Is like.

[Sasha]

And she. But, like, the fat. Like, I don't see it that way. But that's also just because I'm a critical thinker.

[Jax]

On paper, it's an empowering story. In practice. In practice, I'm not liking it.

[Sasha]

No. What we're not seeing on paper is, like, this person who willingly accepted, like, offensive behavior from her partner and thought that that was a relationship, and it's not. And the only pictures we have of you two are in bed. Was because he wouldn't let you out of the house. Like, he wouldn't be seen with you in public. Like, that's. That is, like, genuinely, like, one of the most hurtful and mean things a guy can do to you. Like, not wanting to be seen with you.

[Jax]

Yeah. And I mean, I can understand how in the beginning, like, a few months, it's like, we're keeping this under wraps. It's just me and you. Like, let's figure out what this is before we, like, let the world in. But a year.

[Sasha]

He never let the world in. All of their pictures are indoors.

[Jax]

Yeah. There was, like, one that looked to be at a game or something, but I'm sure it was, like, classic west with other people around, too.

[Sasha]

So it's, like, inconspicuous, very sinister. And what are we. Or they or someone like, gonna talk about Wes grandma? Like, what happened to that?

[Jax]

Thank you. When is someone gonna talk about Wes grandma? And especially for the aftermath. For the aftermath episode. That should have been included because. I'm sorry. His grandma was murdered by his cousin.

[Sasha]

Cousin.

[Jax]

The day that he filmed the reunion. That's relevant.

[Sasha]

Yeah. To your state of mind.

[Jax]

How's that affecting him and maybe his relationship, like, his. That. We need to talk about the grandma.

[Sasha]

Perhaps it can inform some of his behavior during the reunion. He was in a state of shock. Like, literally anything.

[Jax]

No. And it's like, maybe they don't want to complicate the storyline, or maybe they don't want people to have any sympathy for Wes. But, like, we are sorry.

[Sasha]

It's relevant.

[Jax]

We are capable of processing multiple emotions at once.

[Sasha]

It's relevant information. Sorry.

[Jax]

And it's really the craziest story we ever heard. It was almost crazier than the fact that Amanda and Wes even gave it a go. It was cousin killed their grandma. Step grandma who raised him. The grandma who stepped up.

[Sasha]

Not the step grandma. The grandma who stepped Up.

[Jax]

She's the grandma who stepped up. Like, I think she was Gran, like, in their lives.

[Sasha]

I thought it was like, I thought it was that grandma had passed away and so this was just like the girlfriend.

[Jax]

No, I don't think she was like a late in life girlfriend. I think it was like a long term girlfriend. So not only have you lost the grandma who stepped up, but your cousin is a murderer.

[Sasha]

That's the real shocker.

[Jax]

And if he's not that close with these people, just say that and we can move on. But we need to address it.

[Sasha]

It hasn't been brought up once. That's. And like, I feel like collectively people have forgotten about it. I have not.

[Jax]

I forgot. No. And then you reminded me and we need to discuss it and. Yeah, but I guess that's a wrap on West Wilson.

[Sasha]

Right? So we'll never hear about the grandma. But I. I need one of those true crime podcasts or his podcast.

[Jax]

His podcast. Why doesn't he talk about it?

[Sasha]

Because he's too busy, like, being insufferable.

[Jax]

No, he absolutely needs to talk about it.

[Sasha]

It.

[Jax]

Even if it's just to say, like, why he's not talking about it. Like, why he doesn't want to talk about it.

[Sasha]

Just be like, it's been very curious now. Because no one's talking about it.

[Jax]

Yeah. Even if he said it's very painful. It's an ongoing investigation. I can't talk about it. But you just meant, like, that it happened or did it even happen?

[Sasha]

No, it did. Question mark.

[Jax]

It's a really.

[Sasha]

What did Sierra mean with by that gif?

[Jax]

I don't know. I don't know. But Lindsay took it upon herself to,

[Sasha]

you know, I love Lindsay.

[Jax]

Swipe at Mija from the side,

[Sasha]

but I'm shocked that Lindsay's not like, team Miha.

[Jax]

I know, but Lindsay is a critical thinker, and so not everything is going to be just like, all or nothing. All or nothing. Like, okay, I can support you, but also call you out when you're acting wrong.

[Sasha]

Yeah.

[Jax]

Even in her conversation with Amanda was so layered in terms of, like, it wasn't just all hate, all criticism.

[Sasha]

There was a little support.

[Jax]

There was support and. And a love and tenderness, while also toughness.

[Sasha]

Absolutely.

[Jax]

We'd love to see that from our faves.

[Sasha]

We do. Holding, like. And at a certain point, like, I. I was looking for one person on this cast to show the tiniest bit of sympathy for Amanda. Like, she's still a human being who deserves, like, life.

[Jax]

Yeah. Yeah. So while, yes, Miha was Treated wrongly by west for over a year and then ultimately cheated on and broken up by him. Like. And I can have, you know, empathy for you. Why are you talking to him every single day? Continuing doormat behavior.

[Sasha]

And just her tone. Well, yes, like, kind of admitting what she accepted was a bad look for her. Her tone of the whole thing wasn't giving mad. It wasn't giving over it. It was giving, like, very much petty and it was not mature. That's what I meant when I said that. It was very beneath Sierra.

[Jax]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Little Nick's news.

[Sasha]

Oh, my God. The parade is happening right now. I heard, first of all, I don't even know when it starts, but I heard that all the checkpoints were completely full by 6am I saw a video of people getting off on the subway station, not being able to go up the stairs. They're saying, stuck in the subway station. My fucking nightmare.

[Jax]

Yeah, that's really crazy. The parade's happening today. Big, big news. Alicia Keys is set to close out the parade. Probably it's going to be set with the rendition of Empire State of Mind. That will be great.

[Sasha]

Yeah.

[Jax]

Also, Ben Stiller is doing a Knicks docu series with a 24 HBO and the NBA after the Knicks championship win. So the series will chronicle the history, culture, and enduring legacy of the Knicks, culminating with the franchise's first NBA championship in 53 years.

[Sasha]

So I love this. Like, I do think that this, it really, the whole saga has felt like a storybook ending. There's so much history. So explaining it to the world in a documentary format with HBO is great. I think we knew this because Ben Stiller was like, granted access for the last, like, couple of weeks to the Knicks playoffs. He was at every practice, he was like, filming a lot of on his phone horizontally. So people knew that it was a documentary coming. And I just want to say, like, my level of interest in watching Ben Stiller's shaky horizontal iPhone content is a zero. Like, I love this concept. I think Ben Stiller being attached to the project is brilliant. But, like, when. In terms of, when it comes to, like, actual footage captured by him and his backpack and his iPhone, like, I'm good. I could. I have tick tock. Like, I could do that on my own. Bring in a camera.

[Jax]

Yeah, camera. He went on Jalen Brunson and Josh Hart's podcast called Roommates, and he said, obviously, I've been shooting some stuff on my phone, but it's going to be all about all eras of the Knicks in this team. Obviously there's a culmination here of something that's been going on for a long time. It's super exciting. It's great to have had all this access to your team. We're going to probably be shooting a little bit more during next season and I'm going to hit you guys up for some interviews. It's going to be over the next year that we'll be working on it. A lot of people have wanted to make it happen for a long time.

[Sasha]

Yeah. No, it's a story that I think like people might not understand. Like I whole fully so having. But I wonder why. It's like Spike Lee who's like an actual Oscar winning like director isn't attached to it.

[Jax]

I don't know. But I'm not complaining. But a 24 is also on it and so they're probably like the movie makers of this. It sort of reminds me of that Cowboys docu series that we had watched that like tr. It was just like the arc of the Cowboys, but it really like talked about their story, especially in the 90s and their legacy and you know, now they're like in a lullaby but just mapping out the history and like the arc of the team. So I'm sure it will go from like, you know, the last championship till now and just be like a lot more. Even more history than. Than Ben Stiller's iPhone footage.

[Sasha]

From your mouth to God's ears.

[Jax]

Maybe they should have gotten Rick Burns.

[Sasha]

I mean there are so many famous Nick fans. Like I'm sure Mariska Harkit is doing the voiceover like just from the first. Like just.

[Jax]

He was also filming horizontal just from Celebrity Row.

[Sasha]

They could put together like a mean cast and crew.

[Jax]

Yeah.

[Sasha]

Tracy Morgan doing like stand up for the team. Like a million things.

[Jax]

Yeah. But I do hope it's like it's quality.

[Sasha]

Same.

[Jax]

The same. The way the Cowboys was, was really quality. The way like you know, the New York Rick Burns series. Like just like lots of archival footage.

[Sasha]

Yeah.

[Jax]

And. And for everyone, like not just. Not just like hardcore Knicks fans. Like a real storytelling.

[Sasha]

Yeah. And I think it's probably obviously because they won. It's a good time. But like so many of the players from the last championship that they won, like 1972 are still alive. Like those Knicks legends and they like travel with the team and stuff. So like getting those stories.

[Jax]

Yeah. Like the Michael Irvin of the. Of the Knicks. That's like the. The Cowboys had documentary.

[Sasha]

I was like. I think you're saying Patrick Ewing.

[Jax]

You said Patrick Ewing. Wrong.

[Sasha]

Like Walt Frasier and Bill Bradley. Yeah, that's right. I know the legends.

[Jax]

Legends.

[Sasha]

We will.

[Jax]

Oh, also, a little more Nick's news was that Timothy Chalamet, Kylie Jenner were spotted biking on city bikes.

[Sasha]

Oh, yeah. A little more Nick's news.

[Jax]

She's whipped.

[Sasha]

Yeah, she was City biking in ballet flats, which, like, is so crazy.

[Jax]

Yeah.

[Sasha]

I will say, like, city bikes are, like, image wise, very cool. It's a well maintained program we have here. Like, the bikes. I feel like a lot of times when you just, like, leave a bike out in the street, like, it becomes like an encampment. No, it's, like, very well maintained. It's secure. I wonder if, like, they did the one time pass or if, like, Timothy has an annual. They're pretty clean given it's, like, public. So, like, I. I think it's insane that Kylie's on.

[Jax]

It's insane. She's on a city.

[Sasha]

But in the city, like, city bikes are very. Chicago. It's very. The great equalizer. Like, the subway. Like, every. Oh, you see celebrities on the subway. Like, it is the most effective way of getting around the city. Like, Andy Cohen's on it. Every morning you can see celebrities on the subway. It's kind of the same goes for City Bank. Like, it looks crazy, but it's actually not.

[Jax]

No, it's so crazy. And she could have had, like, you know, a Schwinn delivered to her door if, like, she had the idea that she wanted to go biking. I think it's absolutely insane that she's on the city bike.

[Sasha]

But, like, if you have a show

[Jax]

in love because, you know, this was Timothy's idea.

[Sasha]

If you have a Schwinn, like, then you have to park the Schwinn Bodyguard.

[Jax]

She started in the garbage.

[Sasha]

This was definitely Timothy's idea. And I just want to say, like, yes, I have city biked as well. So, like, Kylie and I have that in common.

[Jax]

Where did you city bike to him? Was it your idea?

[Sasha]

It was. I don't know whose idea it was. Ben and I did it. It was when I was an NYU student, but I was, like, living uptown, so we were like, should be city bike. And we just like, like, tried to get as much uptown as we could. It was like, a beautiful day and we were like, obviously on crack. I've done it a couple of times. I don't, like, like, the thing where they have, like, a little area for your bag and there's like, a strap that goes over it. It's not secure enough. Like, if you have precious cargo, like, you really can't.

[Jax]

Yeah, like, oh, she. She's wearing a mini bag, but she did put it in the basket with

[Sasha]

like, you see that, like one little strap over it. It's not. It's not secure, in my opinion.

[Jax]

No. No. Oh, my God, she's so in love.

[Sasha]

Like, seriously, ballet flats, like, I just know she has blisters.

[Jax]

Yeah. Yeah. They do look cute though. They always do.

[Sasha]

I am looking forward to seeing the Knicks parade, like on tv. I imagine it's amazing to be there, but I saw a girl who like, literally got front row bleacher. She was there at 2:30 this morning.

[Jax]

Like, it was a hair name. Ben Saffer.

[Sasha]

Yeah. Right. Life hack is like having an apartment that like looks over the street where the parade is. It's all the way downtown, like by city hall.

[Jax]

Yeah.

[Sasha]

It's actually like, it's a lot of like public office buildings.

[Jax]

No. And it's like you would live there for 53 years before you get to one morning.

[Sasha]

Right.

[Jax]

Or you can just wake up at 2:30 once and live wherever you want.

[Sasha]

I like, that's a good trade.

[Jax]

Are you ready for our next story?

[Sasha]

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[Jax]

Oh yeah, let me make you a peach cobbler. I love to use zero calorie sugar and truvia for my baking because like then we can have like sweet treats all the time and we don't have to feel so bad.

[Sasha]

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[Jax]

thank you Sash Turt.

[Sasha]

You're welcome.

[Jax]

Our next story, Dancing with the Stars cast member announced they have added Jimmy Kimmel sidekick Guillermo Rodriguez as a contestant for season 35.

[Sasha]

I love this like but yes, it's Guillermo's time.

[Jax]

Yes, Guillermo shall be the Andy Richter of the season. I believe a hundred percent.

[Sasha]

It is like very ABC Hulu Disney synergy. He is a star on abc.

[Jax]

It's Pargy. I'm so excited.

[Sasha]

Of course I love when they pluck like influencer reality stars but I do

[Jax]

like a well rounded cast.

[Sasha]

Yeah. And I love this. It's an unexpected choice. So who do we know? So for Rob Mora, Sierra, Guillermo, Savannah Bananas. Right five. His name is Jackson.

[Jax]

I think Jackson Claude Jackson, Claudrod Stewart.

[Sasha]

That's who's got my vote.

[Jax]

Do we know Rob? I feel like we made that up.

[Sasha]

It's not confirmed but Morris confirmed.

[Jax]

More is confirmed. Sierra's confirmed.

[Sasha]

Like honestly my vote is up for grabs. None of my, like, absolute faves are in. Like, I love Maura. I love Sierra. But, like, my number ones have not been cast yet. So, like, with last season, I was like, well, Alex, Earl has my vote, you know?

[Jax]

Yeah.

[Sasha]

Kind of obvious.

[Jax]

Well, we haven't. We still have probably, like, 10 more people. We're gonna find out.

[Sasha]

Yeah, but you never can, like, guess who's gonna be your fave. Of course I fell for Andy Richter.

[Jax]

Right, Right. Who was I voting for? Let me check.

[Sasha]

Oh, yeah.

[Jax]

My texts are like, I need to search, like, Whitney.

[Sasha]

Whitney.

[Jax]

Let's see. Oh, my God, I found it. Okay. I was voting for Andy and Jen. Andy and Jen. Whitney, Alex.

[Sasha]

Oh, you were voting for Jen, your postpartum, like, sister.

[Jax]

Oh, and Elaine got a couple of my votes. Elaine, Elaine, Elaine. Elaine. Oh, I really like athletes.

[Sasha]

Yet whether they usually pluck from, like, the major sports leagues, the Olympics, maybe, like, a FIFA World cup soccer star will like, someone from the American team. Honestly.

[Jax]

Brooklyn Beckham.

[Sasha]

Wait, did you see part two?

[Jax]

No.

[Sasha]

Part two of the commercial was released. There was no big reveal. It was this. It was the same thing. He basically orders doordash and gives the stack of tickets which he had just

[Jax]

thrown on his driver.

[Sasha]

He gives it to the driver, and it's like, leave them somewhere fun. And I guess they're, like, giving away tickets. That's the whole concept. He's like, oh, I don't need them. It's like, yeah, because you're an unemployed slob.

[Jax]

I'm like, hold on.

[Sasha]

No, it. The wondering why I'm watching the FIFA World Cup 2026 from home, not wondering. It's not like I don't have tickets. It's because it's a long story for brother. Yes, these can go to someone else. Hey, put them somewhere fun.

[Jax]

Why couldn't the driver have them? Oh, so the whole concept is that he's giving away his tickets because he doesn't want to be with his family because he's disgusting.

[Sasha]

Right? Yeah. So you're saying your family gave you tickets and you won't go because you

[Jax]

won't be near your family, so he's give them to someone else. But why can't you give. Why can't the doordash driver have them for him and his family?

[Sasha]

I want to say that at this present moment, there is nobody in modern media or culture who I currently hold a lower opinion of than Brooklyn Beckham.

[Jax]

He is.

[Sasha]

I was a little. I was on the bridge. I was on the fence. I was always Team David. But I could understand Him. I now have a severe dislike for him.

[Jax]

He is Prince Harry.

[Sasha]

Yes.

[Jax]

Like, what they've done is the same. And then, like, what they're doing is the same.

[Sasha]

Begging for privacy. Privacy. Showing me your vagina.

[Jax]

No. And, like, stop. You can have a rift with your family. You can find them to be, like, toxic. And it's not. It's not the right environment for you and your feelings. Things to tell the whole world, like, the dirty details of what happened between you all is so classless to monetize off of it. And especially at your such a high level. You're. It's not like you're some, like, Z lister who needs to keep the wheel spinning. You're at such a high level. Your wife is a billionaire. You are a millionaire. Your parents, her parents. Same with Megan and Harry. They have, you know, opportunities for days. You didn't need to do it.

[Sasha]

Yeah. And also the Beckhams are. I don't even want to say a list. There are an upper echelon of fame. They're very global. He's, you know, knighted by the queen. Like, they're on the same level as at one point, like Harry and Meghan. The Obamas.

[Jax]

Yes.

[Sasha]

Very upper echelon. So all in all, I've never disliked someone more. I. Knowing that he doesn't need the money. A lot of times I can make more excuses for people who, like, need the money.

[Jax]

Yes. You know, like a reality star who thrives off of this and it will pay their next thing. Like, okay, but they have so much money.

[Sasha]

And it warmed my heart to open up the comments and see everyone agreed with me tenfold. Like, just the disrespect. They're hard people to dislike. Like, sometimes. Like, I think a lot of people with Harry and Megan were rooting for them in the beginning because, like, you could come up with a million reasons to dislike the royal family. Right. There's really not a lot you can dislike about the Beckhams. They're beloved in sports, in fashion, in music in the UK and America. Like, people just love them. So to go out on your own and never give us a good reason and now, like, monetize it and you just look like a spoiled brat. No one. It's really hard to get people on your side here, Brooklyn.

[Jax]

No. And to, like, tell us the thing. Some of the things that happen which were clearly the worst things that happened because you're trying to get us on your side and it's like that your mother loves you so much and it did a dance at Your wedding and you didn't feel like it was special enough for you? Like, shut up.

[Sasha]

No one. Also, like, everyone on a big and a small scale has, like, mother in law drama at their wedding. Like, like, you leave it at the wedding.

[Jax]

Yeah, yeah.

[Sasha]

That's just what it is.

[Jax]

Yeah.

[Sasha]

Sorry.

[Jax]

Yeah, that's really crazy.

[Sasha]

I hate him. What was the story that led into this?

[Jax]

Guillermo. Guillermo.

[Sasha]

Oh, yeah. Oh. So I don't know why I brought him up. Oh, because FIFA World Cup. Yeah. They're gonna have athletes.

[Jax]

What if they had Brooklyn Beckham?

[Sasha]

I'm telling you, like, that's the level that we're at.

[Jax]

I mean, Meghan and Harry could be on next. She's apparently. That would be good. I mean, I can't ever trust the headlines. But, like, people are saying she's like, really in, like, trouble because they have like $5 million worth of as ever inventory that's about to expire.

[Sasha]

Because it's like, oh, I saw the as ever inventory issue. It's possible. Although they were always selling out. So how are they right? People fake sell out.

[Jax]

A lot of people fake sellout so they can create demand and then release it again. That's like a normal business practice.

[Sasha]

That's like a smart marketing strategy.

[Jax]

Yeah, it's marketing.

[Sasha]

I don't know of all their, like, things. I don't think, like, as ever is going to be the thing that, like. Because also Netflix. What, they had investors. Like, I don't think as ever is going to be the thing that financially breaks. Well, no, but, like, maybe. I think maybe what's going to break them is never fulfilling any of their commitments.

[Jax]

I don't think this will financially break them, but, like, who's going to really take a chance on them again? Yeah, all the inventory is paid for and she has investors. And this I don't think, but, like, this is. If this, this goes down, like, it is such a stain. Add it to the list of stains.

[Sasha]

Well, yeah, it's not a bigger stain than anything else, but at some point they will have knocked down every door. Whether it's, you know, partners to stream with people to invest. They're kind of running out of options,

[Jax]

let me tell you. Flicks, I'm.

[Sasha]

I did the Disney.

[Jax]

I'm on the website. And the shit's pargy. The shit is pargy. I've gotten the jams. They're so good.

[Sasha]

My husband devoured.

[Jax]

It is insane that she cannot sell these things. And it just speaks to, like, the lack of relationship she's established with any fan Base that she's had.

[Sasha]

She did not cultivate, she did not move smart. I feel like after many years, she finally decided to, like, lean into the home space with the cooking show and then the products. But it was so fast. It was so quick. We've got one season. Here's my jams and my edible flowers. It should have been a long, slow roll post cook over the course.

[Jax]

Over the course of years. That's. Yeah.

[Sasha]

It was such a cash grab. So clearly it. People did not respond to it because it was so. But we were just doing books. Like, it was just not cohesive. If she had. Over the course of many years, like, started releasing, like, high quality Instagram content recipes, brought back the tig, did more lifestyle, then did a show, then launched a brand. It was like we went from one

[Jax]

thing to the next.

[Sasha]

You were also doing Confessions of a Female Founder while selling jam. Like it was so not cohesive and

[Jax]

like you're learning, learning on the show. So you're not an expert yet.

[Sasha]

Your show is, like, explaining to us that you don't know how to do anything right.

[Jax]

So why are we going to treat you like an expert? I just want to say I'm on the site. The complete as ever pantry box. So it's like one of everything. It's on sale and it looks really good. I kind of want to buy it. So here's what comes.

[Sasha]

But save that apricot jam. Ben loved it.

[Jax]

Raspberry spread. Orange marmalade. Strawberry spread. Yeah.

[Sasha]

Oh, that was it.

[Jax]

Orange marmalade, honeysuckle, lemon ginger tea. There's a candle.

[Sasha]

Flowers.

[Jax]

Candle flower sprinkles.

[Sasha]

Of course.

[Jax]

Lots of teas.

[Sasha]

You should buy it.

[Jax]

I kind of want it. But is it, like, about to expire? Oh, she has chocolates.

[Sasha]

You have to buy it, like, just for the research. Maybe we'll do like an unboxing or something.

[Jax]

It's actually insane that this website looks so much like the Buckingham palace gift shop website. And it's like if. If you wanted to sell jams, like, you could have had a jam line over there. Yeah. The final jam.

[Sasha]

They are going back to the uk. I don't know if you saw. Big news. They're taking the kids.

[Jax]

What are they doing there?

[Sasha]

I'm not sure what it was for, but it's, like, historic for them because I don't think they've brought the kids back yet. I think the last two or the only two times they've gone.

[Jax]

Yeah.

[Sasha]

Have been solo.

[Jax]

Yeah. Because of the security.

[Sasha]

Right.

[Jax]

I didn't mean to like promote her products. But I'm feeling very influenced right now.

[Sasha]

Like, listen, cream rises and they have a bundle or what you are. If your shit's good, your shit's good.

[Jax]

They have a bundle called the Go to Hostess gift. And so like now I want to get it for like the next time I go to someone's house. What an amazing gift. It's on sale for $132.

[Sasha]

That's just kind of how I feel about Ben Platt. You know, the cream rises like the shit's good. Like.

[Jax]

Yeah. But it's like everything here, she has everything that it takes to like, you know, she has the branding, the website, the infrastructure.

[Sasha]

Yeah.

[Jax]

And the, and, and the manufacturing and the customers. Because it's like this should be Ballerina farm.

[Sasha]

Yeah. No, and if she had been more thoughtful about it like from the get, just wanted to become like a, like a Martha Stewart. She just should have been more thoughtful. They were just so obvious in their cash grab and I understand that they had needs security, yada yada. It was not thoughtfully done.

[Jax]

No. She should like.

[Sasha]

And they are the, the definition of overexposed.

[Jax]

Yeah. But like, I don't know the entity. Like they should sell it, like white label it to someone else and give the keys to someone who could like turn it on someone else. To turn the lights on someone else.

[Sasha]

You like. It should be as ever, Jacques with. With Love Foley.

[Jax]

With Love Foley. I love that. I love that.

[Sasha]

Just something to think about.

[Jax]

Oh my gosh. Me.

[Sasha]

What was the story? Oh, Brooklyn Beckham, Guillermo. Was that. That was the fourth story?

[Jax]

It was sort of the fourth story. I do have another fifth one which is like the rumors are starting to come out about what happened between Jelly Roll and Bunny.

[Sasha]

Oh my God. What are they saying? I haven't heard this.

[Jax]

So behind the scenes they're saying that it's due to changing lifestyles, which some of this does like track based on what's going on in the public. Sources are saying some people around them felt there was growing tension as Jelly has embraced a more faith centered lifestyle. While Bunny continued building the outspoken and provocative brand that had always been authentic to her. Whether that's fair or not, it became increasingly difficult to reconcile those two worlds. The insider claims a lot of people want to point to one thing, but it was really a combination of issues that have been building for years. They came from similar worlds when they met and bonded over surviving difficult circumstances. But over time, their lives started moving in different directions. Jelly has changed tremendously over the last few years. His focus Shifted to his health, faith, family, and the long term legacy he wants to leave behind. Bunny, on the other hand, you know, just two days ago, sharing steamy photo of herself wearing satin lingerie with, like, her strap coming down and she captioned it. She's getting her sparkle back. The person said. Bunny has always unapologetically been herself. And while that's something Jelly's admired about her, there were times when it felt like they were no longer aligned with where he saw his life heading or what he envisioned for the future. Also, she has opened up in January about how they were trying to have a baby via ivf. Yes. So there were difficult conversations about expanding their family timing and what they both wanted their future to look like. Those discussions became more complicated as his career continued to explode.

[Sasha]

You know what, Actually, that does make sense. I did think that a lot of his, like, transition to, like, faith music content, like, felt a little performative in the sense that, like, he saw a space for himself, like, in the music industry and. But it's good to know that that was just like a wrong feeling that I had. And it actually is how he's changed in real life. So much so that he can't even be with his wife anymore because she's like, not on his level. I thought it was like a little bit of like a career move, like a convenient position for him to take. But good to know that that's wrong. Not true.

[Jax]

Yeah. Oh, I didn't. I don't think too hard about his, like, values, you know, because I'm just like.

[Sasha]

It always felt so corny. Like when. Even when he made his speeches, just like, very drama and I'm here because of the Lord. Like, it was very like, oh, interesting. Such change. I was like, oh, you just like, want to now be like, he did a lot of music with Brandon. What's his name?

[Jax]

Brandon Lake. Yeah. Hard for Hallelujah.

[Sasha]

Yeah. Which was great. I thought it was just maybe like he saw success there so he leaned more into it. But no, it's actually like a real change he's going through.

[Jax]

Oh, interesting. I didn't like, really know him before he became like this guy. So that's always like, sort of what I saw him as. I just figured like, the. The Enlightenment happened like, after his incarceration and whatnot. And he's just like, been on this better. But also like, it's evident that he' changing on his health. Like, look at him. He's a different person. And he probably. He's doing five keys with Turdy, like, He.

[Sasha]

Right.

[Jax]

Has, you know, those sorts of things. People grow apart in that way. But it's really crazy to think about that they could, like, survive the craziest things, but not just like, a little. A little reluctantly loving.

[Sasha]

You know what's funny is that, like, Jelly Roll is, like, such a famous person who's gone through, like, such a dramatic weight loss, and there's been, like, no think pieces or discussions made about whether or not he used Ozempic. Like, I imagine that he did. Right. It's just funny. Like, nobody cares. Like, I think of, like, Lizzo or, like, people who have lost, as we are always did. They did that. They're so. Especially for, like, women. Like, we're always obsessed with whether or not they did Ozempic or weight loss surgery or how did they do it. Like, how did Jelly Will do it? I'm sure he talked about it. Like, I'm sure he, like, it's not a big discussion.

[Jax]

Yeah. Let's see. Has he just, like, said he's on GLP1s and I'm sure he is.

[Sasha]

Like, you're overweight your whole life, and, like, only recently you lost weight. It's like, because there's this new amazing thing.

[Jax]

And that's also, like, everyone who's always been, like, you know, extra 10 pounds, like, who's all of a sudden, like, rail thin, GLB1. Yeah.

[Sasha]

Katy Perry definition. She's always been fit.

[Jax]

Yeah.

[Sasha]

But she's.

[Jax]

She's never been this.

[Sasha]

She's lean. She is. She's not one ounce of fat on her. So it's like, oh, what changed?

[Jax]

Oh. So Jelly Roll's approach to weight loss initially involved considering a GLP1 medication, but he ultimately decided to achieve his transformation naturally. Sure. I mean, that's like Kris Jenner saying, I didn't like GLP1s, but I'm on a peptide.

[Sasha]

Well, peptides. I just saw the funniest tweet. You know, they're selling peptides. Peptides are, like, about to become so mass market, they're selling them at bodegas. There was a bodega that had signed, come get your peptides. What is a peptide?

[Jax]

What the is a peptide?

[Sasha]

I don't know what it is, but, like, when I'm done having babies, like, I'm gonna be on every single one. Like, right now, I'm a little bit more particular.

[Jax]

Like, people will be like, there's a peptide for your skin, for your hair. Like, like, there. There's a what now?

[Sasha]

Wait, I just saw Tik Tok. There's actually a peptide, cuz. Okay, what does that mean?

[Jax]

There's a peptide?

[Sasha]

I think it means an injection.

[Jax]

Okay, but why aren't we saying it's an injection?

[Sasha]

Cuz it maybe I think. Don't quote me on this, it's a hormone.

[Jax]

But also my Haley Bieber lips are peptide.

[Sasha]

Right? Well, I heard there's a peptide an injection that like causes a melanin production. So it's like instead of getting spray tans, you can actually produce more melanin in your skin. Because I saw Tick Tock being like. I thought there was like a bad spray tan epidemic, but it turns out a lot of celebrities are now taking this peptide. I forgot the name of it. To produce melanin.

[Jax]

Very interesting. Anyone that we can look to?

[Sasha]

I don't want to say who because it was just speculation, but who are

[Jax]

they speculating of a leg?

[Sasha]

Ella Langley. That's funny because if you look at pictures of celebrities in the past who were just like, like you know, paler and well it could be. Or it could be the peptide.

[Jax]

That is very interesting. Yeah, but so, yeah, like oh, so jelly roll take. Not on GLP ones.

[Sasha]

But all I'm saying is like think about how many times we've like thought and talked extensively about like a public weight loss. Even if they denied it, we're like, well this, she's definitely on it. Like nobody cares how jelly rolls losing his weight.

[Jax]

Like just men aren't really interesting to me.

[Sasha]

That's beautiful.

[Jax]

Like personally, that's why I'm not asking.

[Sasha]

Yeah, no. And men weight loss is not personally interesting.

[Jax]

Male weight loss is not interesting because it's so simple.

[Sasha]

It's like you eat less and you lose weight a lot. Yeah, right. With a woman it's like you have three grapes in a day and you gain a pound. Like it's just. That's interesting.

[Jax]

Yeah. And I, I can't relate to male weight loss. I, I don't find it interesting and I don't care. That's why personally I'm harder on the women. If you were wondering like my biases about you personally.

[Sasha]

Yeah.

[Jax]

Yeah. Though I don't feel like I'm harder on. I don't feel like I'm hard on one.

[Sasha]

You know what's so funny is

[Jax]

it's true.

[Sasha]

You keep her your foot on her neck. Actually it's funny because I did a Q and A yesterday and somebody asked me a question and it was so true. Cuz like we're sort of like we're very desensitized now to oic. But there was a time where it was like a witch hunt, right? Like, and I remember I used to, like, live in fear that people would find me out. I was like, girl, it couldn't be more obvious. Like, you've been fat forever. But, like, someone was like, do you feel resentful that, like, now people are on it all the time? It's like, we don't even question it. We don't like witch hunt. It's like, so desensitized. Whereas, like, when you were on it, it was like the. The spe. She was like, do you feel resentful? And I was like, well, yeah, now that you've put it that way.

[Jax]

I do.

[Sasha]

Like, I never thought about it, but it's like the. The way we even just now, so casually I said, like, Katy Perry's probably on his epic. It used to be this, like, very hot button issue.

[Jax]

Yeah. Yeah, I guess it was.

[Sasha]

It's just deflated now. It's like, well, yeah, everyone's on it.

[Jax]

Yeah.

[Sasha]

And the thing that people said was going to happen, like, did happen, which is everyone is super, super skinny. Like, the body standard has. Has really shifted. The plus size movement is over. We are not body positive. Like, we're losing weight. Like, everything they said was going to happen because of Ozempic did happen, but also, like, obese people are less obese. And, like, I think that's great.

[Jax]

Yeah.

[Sasha]

Like, people who clinically needed it. Like, yeah, we're all talking about, like, Ariana Grande, but, like, what about, like, the People Jelly Roll special? Yeah, right. What about Jelly Roll? It's the Ariana Grande to Jelly Roll pipeline.

[Jax]

Like, so we have. And that's what you were talking about with her. It's like, you want to also be critical about. About very overweight people if you're going to be critical about very underweight people. And. And that's. If you want to name them, like, that's fine with me.

[Sasha]

Well, I'm not gonna name them, but I did just see something that, like, it was very much what I was saying. It was a video of, like, a severely overweight celebrity. And the comments were like, why aren't we, like, saying Ariana? Why aren't the comments here, like, Ariana Grande.

[Jax]

Text me who it was. And then, like, if you're feeling brave,

[Sasha]

you could share because I'm never gonna say it.

[Jax]

Oh, my gosh. I'm so curious who it is. I kind of have a thought of who it could be. Oh, interesting. I thought you were gonna say this Person's not severely overweight, but, like, they've obviously gotten.

[Sasha]

No, no, no. Like, there's. I'm talking about, like, being fat is like, I'm fat right now. Like, and being fat is not that. I'm talking about, like, severe, like, morbid obesity.

[Jax]

Understood. Okay. Yeah, Yeah.

[Sasha]

I don't think if someone's, like, currently, like, like, carrying, I want to say, up to 40 extra pounds. Like, they need their comments to be like, you're in danger. Like, how. It's really extreme. Ariana Grande. Right?

[Jax]

Yeah. There's just not a lot of celebrities.

[Sasha]

There's not.

[Jax]

Yeah. So there's like, two.

[Sasha]

Everyone's gonna know who I'm talking about.

[Jax]

I actually don't think so. I never would have guessed.

[Sasha]

Okay.

[Jax]

Okay. That's your show. Yeah, that's your show, you guys. And that's your week of toast.

[Sasha]

Yes. If you're looking for more content, I just uploaded a new Patreon. Not to be like, so drama, but people do always, like, ask about my hair.

[Jax]

So I try to make hair.

[Sasha]

I try to do a hair tutorial every, like, two years because it does change. And my hair tutorial has actually recently changed a lot for Dear media. By night, I got my hair professionally glammed and my girl Allison, like, like, she was using all this, like, new stuff and I had her send me links. So kind of major changes. I stopped using the Dyson Air app. Yeah, it's all. And then I also.

[Jax]

I stopped using a Dyson Air app. Ama.

[Sasha]

Yeah. And I also did an ama, answered a bunch of questions about, like, actually shared some, like, secret project. I didn't even tell you about it. Like, I shared, like, a couple of secret project reveals. I was just kind of being a big mouth and I shared just, like, some stuff. Q and a hair tutorial in depth.

[Jax]

I seriously can with you.

[Sasha]

Yeah, I know.

[Jax]

Like, years of work.

[Sasha]

That's why I didn't tell you.

[Jax]

Blurted out in your. A real.

[Sasha]

By the way, I was very vague. Okay, so that is our show. Patreon is going to be popping off for the remainder of the week. We have a new episode dropping tomorrow and.

[Jax]

Yeah, because even though we're not doing the toast tomorrow, we are going to be doing a pop culture episode for tomorrow to get you through the day. Because the weekend we're very giving, like that generous. Yeah.

[Sasha]

So patreon.com Sasha toast 7.99 you get five extra episodes a month. It's live vlogs, It's Patreons. Obviously, it's patreons it's vlogs, it's Q&As, it's podcasts. It's a good way to get extra content from us and also support the show. So patreon.com the toast thank you so much for being thank you so much for listening to the Toasted Pot. Thank you so much for listening to the Toast, the millennial morning show where we deliver the fast five stars in each and every Monday, the Friday on YouTube. So you're watching us on YouTube? Please have to subscribe give this video a thumbs up. We're also available as Podcast. Every podcast to be found. So it's Spotify, Apple Podcast and YouTube. Wherever you listen to podcast review about a beautiful sounding a weekly town to be RB has an amazing day. Bye and we'll see you tomorrow.

[Jax]

Love ya. Bye.