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Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast.
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It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host.
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It's your favorite show, the best five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the Toast.
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I sound amazing.
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Welcome back to the Toast and happy Thursday. That genuinely should be a Friday hijack.
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T. I'm Darren Good. Co chairs Wojers. You know who you are.
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Sojourners.
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You are Hosier.
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Okay, at first I thought you were calling me a hoe, and I was, like, facts, and then I realized you're talking about Hosier.
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You are a very talented singer. Like a one in a lifetime generation kind of.
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Kind of talent. Yeah, I completely agree with that. That assessment.
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You are Hosier. Okay.
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Hozier, Kojer, Roger. Soldier.
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Yeah.
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Tinker, Taylor. Soldier. Spy.
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You are also Cojourner's truth. You are.
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I am. I am who I am at this point. You know?
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No, it's just, like, so crazy, and I'm still fole. How does that work?
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Oh, that is the plight of, like, being the girl who comes up with the nicknames. Like, it's true. You are the girl who just iterates off of different things. And you're the creative genius behind all the nicknames, Turdy. And so while that is an amazing accolade, it leaves you nicknameless, because it leaves me, like, the brain dead to come up with a nickname for you. And I'm working off of a reference from the Devil wears Prada from actually 15 years ago.
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Yeah. Yeah. But it's okay. That's the way it works.
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Like you said, my talent is obviously singing better than Hosier. Kosher Truth. And that's my talent and yours is nicknames.
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Yeah. It's fun being a nickname queen, especially when you have kids. Like, the nicknames are off the charts, and it's hysterical.
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I was thinking, actually, yesterday, I'm not terrible with nicknames because Romeo was currently scumbalita.
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Oh, you guys are like. You and Ben have their own, like, language genre where, yes, your baby will be like, boom, Balino.
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Yeah. So Romeo is currently scumbalita. And I'm not entirely sure how we got there, but all that matters is that we got there.
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Scumbalito.
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Scumbalita. Jump a little ladder. Scumbalita actually is in Queens. I went to drop him off last night. Ben is golfing for the weekend, and, like, I just can't take care of Romeo by myself. Like a pregnant woman walking the streets at night. It's just not. It's not gonna happen.
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He's the king of Queens.
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So we dropped him off. He's the king of Queens. And then Ben and I found ourselves in Queens and we were like, okay, let's have like a bomb ass dinner.
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Peter Lugert.
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And so that's in Brooklyn. We went to Parkside, which is like this very famous Italian restaurant that Ben's always going to. And Ben like Ben walks in there. Okay. So the first time Ben went actually he used to go all the time with his grandma. But the most recent time he went, he went after a Mets game with his friend Pete who plays for the Mets.
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And like we know.
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Yeah. And so you know the Mets play in Queens and this is like the.
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Most famous restaurant to go anywhere with him in New York area.
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It's, it actually is so crazy to go anywhere with him. But like this particular restaurant, Ben like when he got home he was telling me about it like it was actually crazy. Like they kept the restaurant open for beat. And so last night it was just like us, you know, and we were eating at 5:30 and it was just like they had a table, like take. No, no, they had a table cuz it was 5:30. And I'm like, Ben, how does it feel coming back here like as a nobody? When the last time I think they were the only people in the restaurant, they like kept the restaurant open late after a Mets game for like the.
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Met to come to meet the Mets.
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Correct. Having said that, it was so delicious. We had like a fabulous dinner at 5:30, you know, swiftly in bed by 7. Nothing better than that.
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Love that. I was in bed at a decent hour and I watched Summer House but I have to be honest, like I really watched with a quarter of an eye because our group chat was popping off last night and I was pausing it every three minutes like to go back into the chat and have my fun. So if it was a good episode of Summer House, I wouldn't know because I wasn't invested in it. But I don't think it was good.
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I would say it was a good episode.
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Did anything happened?
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Summer House is just one of those shows where. And we'll talk about it in the TV recap. It's pleasant. Everybody is good looking, everybody is stylish, everybody is young and hot and has personality. Yeah, there's no like dearth, there's no boring people. So I feel like even a bad episode of Summer House is still really good.
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No, just to say not like bad. But nothing happened.
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No, there wasn't like a big nothing Moment.
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Yeah. It wasn't a big party or anything. They went to the beach, they came home, they all went out. They don't bring the cameras. And then the next day they packed. I think I feel like you're missing.
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Some stuff, but we'll talk about in the tv.
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Okay? Okay. But also to say, yeah, I was in the. I was in the chats last night. They were popping.
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You were. You were chatgpting.
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Yeah. So much drama.
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So much drama. Actually, there wasn't. We were just like gossiping so much.
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So much drama to gossip about. That's.
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I live live to gossip.
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It was really fun. Do you want to talk about that subject on the show today?
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We were gossiping about. The thing is, is we're kind of late. We're kind of late. Jackie, like, just discovered all the tick tock drama going on with the New York City influencers.
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I've known that it's happening.
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And we were gossiping like, really hard about it. Yeah. We could check. Chat about it. Unfortunately, like, we're talking about the New York City influencers and we're not talking about me. So I. I'm already, already at a disadvantage. Like, I care less.
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I know, but they're not being talked about in a positive light. So I think that if you are not. And they're not talking about you because the people that they're describing, like, the good thing is that it is not you because they're not saying very nice things.
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So if you're not on this side of TikTok, and.
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But I just feel like if this has reached me in such a way, I feel like it's very big.
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It's not actually. It's reached you because, like, I am.
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Because my sisters are New York City influencers.
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Yeah. Yeah. But it, no, it did become like a big thing. And if you're following over the weekend, like somebody made a TikTok that was like, it was just a regular girl, like a nobody. And she was just like, you know, being bitchy, being like, what's with all the New York City influencers are so boring. Like, it was just kind of like a nasty takedown on, like, the state of the most famous Tick Tockers. She's talking about, like, I think, like, fashion tick tock New York City girlies. And it was just like a really, like, to be honest, it came across my for you page before it blew up. I didn't think much of it. I just thought it was like when she, when she vibes, like, it wasn't this, like, intellectual Takedown. It wasn't this huge viral video, but then, like, it made its way to the people, all the people who thought. Who thought that it was about them. And they all started, like, commenting, responding, stitching it, duetting it, making it huge, and also sort of outing themselves as the, quote, boring influencers that they think she was referring to. And it became this huge thing, this, like, referendum on the New York City influencers and if. Whether or not they're boring, right? And now everyone's coming out of the woodwork sharing, you know, positive, negative experiences they've had with all these influencers. And I. It's just like, you know me, I live for, like, an influencer drama takedown. Like this one, I don't know, it's not doing it for me. There's like. Like, I can't even explain what the drama is about. Like, it's not about anything. Do you know what I mean?
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Yeah, Well, I think that, like, the initial video was the initial video, and her point is worth discussing. She says that they're all pretty boring. They post the same things, they wear the same things. They all look nice in those things because they're, like, skinny and pretty. But it's not like an original point of view or original sense of style now.
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And I think what she was saying is, like, when you think of New York City, like this pinnacle of, like, culture and fashion and style, if this is who's representing the city, like, well, how is that possible? Because it's all very like, Lululemon pants. Go into Pilates and getting a Cafe Olay afterwards.
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No. And if I were them, I'd just be like, she called me skinny.
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Skinny.
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I'm. I'm good.
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That's how I knew she wasn't talking about me.
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I'm good. No, it's like they all dress really well, but it's obviously like a derivative of someone else's fashion. Like it's not their own. Like, oh, I'm going to get dressed and be me today. And so I feel like some of the people that she was talking about, I. I think I follow less than half of them. What is it, like, five, six girls? And so I was looking at everyone and, like, I see what she's saying. Like, they are all very similar and it's. It's homogenous and the content is, like, the most interesting. But, like, they have followers for a reason. Like, this is what people like. It's very pleasant to look at their. It's very common.
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It's just called aesthetic.
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Like, that's their thing, serving an audience. If people didn't like it or they found it too boring to follow, they wouldn't follow them. No one's forcing them. They're the New York City influen for a reason. I think it speaks more to the culture than it speaks to these girls.
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It also speaks to. And I think what a lot of the reception to that girl's video was is like, you're for you page is the for you page. You know, you built it brick by brick. Like, it is a reflection of content. You engage with, things you find interesting, things you find entertaining. So some girls were, like, commenting. I don't even know who you're talking about. These girls, because that's not what my for you page looks like. My New York City influencers are much more diverse and much more stylish. And so it is a reflection of the person whose page it is.
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Right.
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But in that girl's defense, like, there is a crop of, like, TikTokers, like five or six girlies who I think we all know, like, the girlies that we're talking about who have the most followers. And it's true. It's like, well, maybe it's boring to you or it's uninteresting to you, but there it's. What's the proof in the pudding? There's proof in the pudding. They are the girls with the most followers. They are the girls with the best engagement. Like, it is entertaining and interesting and inspiring to someone.
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Yeah. I think it just speaks to what people want and what they engage with. And there are people out there. Maybe not that they're like specific bracket of age of influencer in New York City, but there are plenty of influencers with, like, unique senses of style and. And comedy. And this, like, so you.
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They.
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They cover one bucket. I don't think that's a crime that they're not, like, more interesting.
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I agree.
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I like. Okay, if you don't like it, don't follow it. But people do like it. So I think it. You have to look at that.
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No, that is. And that makes sense. It's like why I've had, like, such a flop of a career on Tick Tock. Right, Right. They don't want me and my unique sense of style.
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No. And they don't want the chaos. I think. I think that that is true on Tick Tock. Like, they like peaceful come. And it's true. I follow. I follow a lot of different influencers who offer me a lot of different things, but there is a bucket that I like of like people who, it's like just peaceful with the music and the cleaning and they're getting dressed and they're putting on their skin care and there's something nice about it. I can't explain.
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Yeah, no, it's important to acknowledge things are popular for a reason. And it's sometimes, sometimes not that deep. Yeah.
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But then the girls really stepped in it with their responses.
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They shouldn't have. And then there were people responding to it and be like, we weren't talking about you. Like, stop. You know, like it was like everybody was really showing themselves. Like there were. What I saw, when I saw it, like a couple of girls came to mind who are like really do a lot of the same, like workout class, like latte.
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I mean let's just say like acquired has become the face of this.
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Acquired style has become the face of this. And then like the other names being thrown around are kit kids. Now she has a twin. So it's like four or five blonde skinny girls who work out a lot, who make a lot of coffee content, who make a lot of skin care content, who do this for a living full time. They work with fashion brands, they work with skincare brands, they do go on brand trips. And so they are like the most successful tiktokers in New York City right now. And that's definitely who she was referring to. They all like commented, duetted, stitched. It blew it up. First of all, like, they, this is a scandal that they made. But then it was funny to see like other people like leaving comments like, I can't believe she talked about us like that. I'm like, us. I don't think they were talking about you. Like, like I, that's just like, to me, that's what I found funny about this whole thing.
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Was she talking about our sister Margot?
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No. One thing about Tick Tock is Tick Tock really likes creators who have also full time jobs who don't do creating full time. They, I think they find it actually really inspirational and very relatable, like wanting to do content but also not wanting to give up like your college degree and all the things you worked for. And so I actually think that's a huge bucket in our sister Margot. A check in our sister Margo's column is that she works full time. Obviously she's like a fancy corporate job, but then she's also like a full time content creator.
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Yeah, no, I didn't think of her when they said that. But like she is a New York City influence influencer and she's friends with all these people. And also most.
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You know what? Satchel drinks, like Starbucks. Like, they're not talking about her.
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They're like. That's a different problem.
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Yeah, yeah. Like, Satchel doesn't have, like, an espresso machine. And her. Do you know what I mean? Because, like, coffee is such a big part of this. Like, let's go try the matcha Cuba latte at the new place in the West Village. And Margot drinks like. Like grocery store coffee. And, like, that's why she'll never be successful. No, I'm kidding.
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Satchel catching strays today.
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No, but Satchel, there are so many things about Margo's content. Like, she's kind of crazy. Like, there's so many things about it that are unbelievable. Like how much she works, how much she works out. Like, she's all this time of the day. She travels. She has a full life. But there's also so many things that are so regular about her. Like her. Her coffee is from the grocery store. I'm gonna ask her. I just. What. What coffee does she drink?
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I think she go. I think she mobile orders Starbucks and, like, picks up a huge what kind.
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Of coffee do you drink every morning? Question mark. She definitely gets a Trenta mobile order 1000%. And that's why she's so regular.
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It's also, like, not an order. That's like mocha chocolata. Like, that's like, cool.
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Like an iced coffee with, like, sugar free vanilla.
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Vanilla cream, cold foam, sugar free vanilla and skim milk. It's a coffee with milk Splendas.
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I'll let you know what she says.
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That is so funny. But I was also going to say about these girls is most of them, except for Kid, who was also on the Bachelor. And so I kind of like, don't group her with these girls. Plus, she cooks. But most of them are, like, just regular girls that they're not like Nepo children or.
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Right.
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They started with zero followers, just like everyone else and, like, no leg up in this industry. So if they've built it to a million followers on Tick Tock, like, that's on. Anybody could do that, right?
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Yes, that's true. That's why you. You remove Kit from the conversation. Because Kid is obviously Nepo fashion queen and she was on the Bachelor, which gives you, like, a bit of a platform. But for some of the other girls that they're talking about, I think, like, they're also looping in, like Lauren Wolf.
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Yeah, these are from a.
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No, these are just girls who like during COVID especially, like, hustled really hard. And a lot of them were doing full time jobs before and during their content creation career and are now doing it full time. So, yeah, there is something, like, also impressive about that.
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Anybody could do it and they've done it. So if you don't like it, go do it.
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Wow. This is what Margot drinks lately. Just Colbu from the office. Like, thank you. That's my point. Thank you.
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They're not talking about her, but she did tell me her office got a cobra machine. Everybody's talking about it.
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Okay. And that's what I'm saying. So she's literally getting free coffee. She's so not who we're talking about. Such Della Cratch. No, Mark, I actually, I. Margarita didn't come to mind when I thought of the.
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Well, when I hear the word, like New York City influencers, I do, like, think of my little sisters. I do, I do center them in the conversation.
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Me too.
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You too? You're the influencer mentor. Don't shut up.
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I'm not.
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But it is true that, like, other cities do have, like, very interesting people. But I guess, like, so does New York, like, gave. New York gave us something navy, you know?
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Right. And it also did remind me of, like, the last group of New York City influencers. It was more like the Instagram bloggers, kind of like the Revolve girls. If you remember that era, before Revolve started working with Tiktokers, it was just like Instagram girls and they were all really similar to one another. They were just like different iterations of the same vibe.
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No, no, like, Ariel styles, like, very different from, like, Danielle Bernstein is different from Leandra Medine. Like that.
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Okay, well, yes, Leandra Medine was like, really high fashion. And like, she would wear like, things that were like, ugly, but they were like fashion. But. Okay, but even like Ariel Charnison, we were what? Yet to us, like, they're so different, but to the outside world, they're just like New York City girls. They're both like, from Long Island. They wear like, you know, intermix. It was. It was very similar.
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Yeah.
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We could find the differences in them. Yes.
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Yeah. But overall, yeah, I think just people are just looking for too much, like, meaning.
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Well, and that's what happens. That's like a. A woman's thing. Right? This is a woman's issue. Women are always, like, looking for. So that's why, like, a lot of Internet discourse, influencer drama, content creator is for women by women. Like, we're Looking for too much here. Like it's just, it's just a job.
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It's like, it's just content. Take it or leave it.
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Right? Right.
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Yeah. So if you are an interesting non boring creator, show yourself.
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Show yourself.
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So glad we chatted about that because that's been big.
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That's in huge news on the interwebs in the community. Even though, you know, and I meant to, I totally fucked up again yesterday. I keep referring to our boomer listeners as boomers when I'm talking about Gen X. I'm sorry. And it's funny, they do call Gen X the forgotten generation. And look, here we are forgetting about them. And I don't know if our, if our Gen X listeners like care about this drama, but I did fall into some Gen X Tik Tok drama this morning.
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Share. But I also think that Gen X, like wants us to be us. They came here when we were Good morning millennials. Like, they don't want us to change. They want to relate to their daughters about what's going on. They could say like, did you hear acquired Getting dragged through the streets?
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You don't like me? Acquire some style.
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She'll be like, mom, what?
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So the boomer drama on Tick Tock this morning is there's a woman, she's like a New York City woman who like makes really high quality tick tocks. She's like 75. I don't know like how she got to be so popular and how she like knows how to make such high quality content. But she just like shares her life. She's clearly very wealthy. She has this huge apartment in New York, big house in the Hamptons, big house in Outer Banks. Her and her husband just like share parts of their life. And she shared a video, like a story time that like really showed herself as a toxic mother in law. She was talking about how she has two daughters in laws and the relationship with them is both strained individually. And she's telling.
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Why would she share this?
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Right, right. And she's sharing the story about how one of the daughter in laws, like they have a rule in their family, like they really ask that no gifts be given to the kids unless it's like Christmas, Hanukkah, whatever. It's just like one of their parenting things. They don't want their kids to be spoiled. And obviously like this mother in law has an issue with it because they live across the country and she never gets to see her grandkids, yada yada. And then a couple of years ago she went to the dermatologist they found like a mole who. That they thought was melanoma. So she was having this scare and the first thing she thought was like, I need to buy my grandson a truck. And like that's like her toxic mother in law trait. Whatever. The video, like, it was so innocuous. It's just like her regular content. But people were like, wait, you have issues with both your daughters in law? And then the story you're telling, like, sounds like you are the problem. Like you're not listening and respecting boundaries.
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Yeah.
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And so she made a response video this morning and she was just like, I never get to see my grandkids. I'm 77 years old. I can't travel across the country. She's being very toxic victim. And it's like we follow you. You go to the Outer Banks, like your huge house. Like you go there maybe once a quarter. Like you travel plenty. You and your husband are fine to do that. So why are you lying?
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That's really crazy.
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Yeah.
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That she would share all of that, what goes on in her life. Like, I don't care.
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It's her own personal business.
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But. And what happened with the melanoma?
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I think everything. It was just a scare.
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But I, I don't want to judge, but like, you have melanoma, you need to buy your grandson a truck.
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Well, that's what everyone was saying. It was like you're using your like health scare to like get your way across the foundation.
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You've been waiting for years.
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Right, right, right. And then there's like a big underground theory that actually she's. She's autistic, but that she grew up like in a generation that like didn't like acknowledge that as like an issue. So she, it like kind of went un detected and untreated and like that's what we're seeing. You know, that's.
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God, everyone is that people are crazy. That is so. That is also so crazy. Like true or not, you don't know this person.
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So I just want to know, like from Gen Z to Gen X, we have all the TikTok drama covered this morning.
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We really do. And that's how sue sees it.
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How are the stories today? Oh, wow. We've dillied and dallied quite a bit.
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Yeah. When I said, do you want to talk about the influencer drama? Like, I meant as a fifth story is what I meant.
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Well, I'm sorry, I don't read minds.
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No, sorry. I like, I never like finished what I was saying because we just launched into it So I do think we can make up some time on the back end. I do think.
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Great. Great.
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So now without further ado, da da da do. There's the Fast 5 stories you need to know. You did it.
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Look at that party. She's a New York City influencer. What's in her coffee?
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That's a personal win. And you know who's normally cheering right beside me when I. When I have one of those. Do you know who?
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I was going to make a funny joke. Of course me and of course State Farm. Because like, we're your ride or dies.
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That's really good.
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Thank you, Turt.
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You're welcome.
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Thank you. Thank you for that. Our first story, a story that means a lot to me. A lot, a lot. Harry. Josie.
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A
What did Meghan Markle do now?
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Harry Jowsey and Lucy Hale are dating. The source.
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A
What?
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Their relationship is casual but not brand new. So people can confirm that Harris, Harry Jowsey and Lucy Hale are officially dating. He is 27 and she is 35. Just so that you have the facts.
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A
He's 27 and she's 35.
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Okay, a source tells. But she like, is forever 18, 17. Yeah, a source. Like, I actually think she might be a vampire because she doesn't age. And she's looked at the same ever since we've met. Stepped on the scene.
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I. I hate to bring this up because I feel like I cannot have nuanced conversation about Lucy Hale because to me, if you're going to bring her up, like I'm going to bring up that weird thing she did with Colton at Runyon Canyon. You know, she went for a walk with Colton, like five minutes before Colton Underwood came out as gay. He was like on a date doing a hike with Lucy Hill.
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Okay. We don't know what was a date. Maybe it was a PR move. Maybe he's gbf.
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A
I'm still at the restaurant.
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I am moving on because she's one of my faves and I really feel like she's looking for love. We've reported on, like, her being with Journey over the years, and now it's Harry Jowsey. And let me tell you how I ship.
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A
Yeah, you definitely like. A fun fact about you is you have a special place in your heart for Harry Jowsey.
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B
I do.
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Why do you think that is? Because he shares it. He shares a name with your son.
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I do like the name Harry. Also, when we were doing our Spotify live show and he was doing a Spotify.
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Very supportive.
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He was very supportive of our Spotify live show and came into our chat room and had a really great attitude when he didn't even know us.
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A
I think he's, like, actually a nice.
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Guy and I think that what he's built based on, like, he's really impressive. Season of a random reality show is like. Is very impressive. And every time I see clips of him, I think he's very funny. I think he's got great personality. And he's just like, he's funny and he like. And I feel like he's like a classic, I don't know, like Fudge boy or whatever, but, like giving us insider information as women.
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A
He's not afraid to go deep either. I was just talking about that clip I saw of him talking on his podcast about. I forget who was maybe his dad who did the assisted suicide in Australia. Remember I was telling you about that?
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B
Yeah.
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A
So he opens up.
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He's layered.
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He liked Khloe Kardashian during that brief period of time.
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B
Obsessed. Larsa. Don't forget Larsa.
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A
I did forget Larsa. What did they do?
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B
They were rumored to be dating, too.
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I just think he's having fun. You know, he's like this young, good looking guy. People are attracted to him and he's just sort of like going with the flow.
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Yeah. So I wonder if him and Lucy, I'm sure they're having fun. I feel like she's probably looking for something serious. Ish. Or like just solid. Solid. I don't know what he's looking for. I. I feel like they might not be aligned.
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A
Yeah. I wouldn't say, like, serious and solid is his. His current goal.
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B
You can't put Harry Jowsy in a box.
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A
So true. You know, when I think about the Netflix show that launched his career like, to out handle, which I know still airs and nobody watches it. That first season was definitely a cultural reset. And we got like, him and Francesca Farago. Right.
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B
By the way. I just was. He behaved so poorly on that show. Like, he straight up lies. He lied. We all watched him lie. And then apparently he went on Perfect Match and he, like, lied and people were surprised. I'm like, he lied on Too Hot to Handle. Oh, and he dated Jess from Perfect Match. Another queen. He has great taste in women.
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A
Yeah. I think just like beautiful way. I don't think that he has great taste in women. I think, like, great women just like him. Do you know what I mean?
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And that says a lot about him.
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A
I agree. I agree. You are the company you keep.
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B
Yeah. So as Lucy is one of my favorite actresses, like, everything she like is in. I just.
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A
You love so much. You don't even like pretty little eyes.
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B
Privileged.
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A
Privileged.
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Katie Keane. Justice for Katie Keene.
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A
Did you ever see the Hating Game?
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B
No, I didn't.
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A
It was one of those, like, smut novels. They turned into like a direct to DVD movie that she made. It was actually really good.
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B
I know. I just feel like that movie, like, between the title and the COVID photo, like, I got the point. The Hating Game.
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A
You saw the whole back to back.
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We hate each other now we love each other.
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A
It's a classic trope of enemies to lovers.
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B
It's an enemies to lovers trope. What else is. Oh, I think she was also in, like, she's someone who I have followed on Instagram since I got an Instagram. Do you know what I mean?
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A
That's an amazing way of putting it. Yes.
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B
I would love to see a metric of how many people I have followed. Like, and like, including unfollows, but, like, how many people I have followed your lifetime in my lifetime.
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A
You should get that app that Taylor from Love is Blind has.
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B
I should not get that apple.
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A
No, you should.
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B
Oh, a Cinderella story. Which was one of the better iterations.
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A
Who is she? Is she one of the nasty sisters?
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No, she's the Cinderella. It was like a. You know how they did a bunch of.
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A
Oh, not like the. The one. No, not Hillary Duff and not Selena Gomez. Another Cinderella story.
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B
She had her own.
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A
Oh, less popular. It's giving. Bring it on.
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B
Like, she had Lucy own one.
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A
Oh, it didn't. It didn't make its way to my desk.
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B
I think you probably did watch it.
- [28:40]
A
You just probably don't remember telling you. I'm telling you, I didn't.
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B
She was Also on the O.C. who was she?
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A
Who'd she play? I just rewatched. Wasn't she so young?
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B
Yeah.
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A
Everyone has been on the O.C.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Olivia Wilde.
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B
No, but my favorite work of hers is definitely Privileged.
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A
I would agree.
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B
Oh, she was on Wizards of Waverly Place. Yeah. I think she had a small role. I think she was dating the brother. But I didn't watch Wizard. It's funny. All of her, like, biggest things I actually didn't watch, like, Pretty Little Liars.
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A
I watched Pretty Little Liars. I didn't enjoy it, and I don't, like, look back on that time in my life. Fondly. I eventually gave up. Like, who was a. Did we ever find out who wasn't A? Right. It was the teacher. It was someone's dad's sister. Right. It was Allison. She's alive. Like, it was. Who's.
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B
Allison? Has a twin sister.
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A
Correct.
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B
When in doubt, twin sister.
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A
Pretty little. Pretty Little Liars is becoming one of those shows. Like, there's a Re Watch podcast now. Like, they're all always. It's like, it's. They're doing too much.
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B
And they also rebooted it already.
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A
Yes. A failed reboot on HBO Max, a la Gossip Girl.
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B
Yeah. Yikes.
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A
Yeah. But I do often.
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B
Another failed reboot, Cruel Intentions. One season on Amazon.
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A
Oh, I didn't see that. That's. That's bad when a reboot doesn't even make its way to my desk.
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B
Yeah. Like, I think at this point in the boardrooms, like, reboot equals bad idea. We've been saying it, obviously, for a long time, but I think the numbers show.
- [30:18]
A
No. I mean, if the Gossip Girl reboot didn't work, none of them had a chance. Because, honestly, there's no reason that a Gossip Girl reboot wouldn't work. Right. Like, it's just a tale as old as time. Like, rich kids in New York City being, like, drunk and mean to each other. Like, that's a timeless formula. And they put so much money into it, and they tried so hard, and it was so bad.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Like, so if that can't work, really, what hope does the rest of them have?
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B
I don't know. I. Like, do people, like, lose their jobs when, like, things like that flop? Like, don't you feel like someone did a bad job at their job?
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A
I do. Like, and in a normal job, like, if I went to work at a restaurant and I did a bad job, I would get fired. But with TV, they say, like, 90 of TV fails, and the 10 that succeeds, like, financially makes up for the 90. And that's how, like, the TV industry is so popular. But. So you're saying 90 of the workforce should be fired, Right? Yeah, I agree. You're supposed to be, like, the best in the biz. What do you know?
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B
Yeah. No, that's just, like, so weird to me. So that person will go on to make, like, another bad show and waste, like, millions of more dollars.
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A
Right, right. Right.
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B
Cool, cool, cool. So anyways, I wish Lucy and Harry the best of luck. I hope that they are it for each other. And if they're not, I can respect that too. But I'll be enjoying this ride.
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A
Love that.
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B
Are you ready for our next story? Kelly Clarkson is absent from her talk show due to a personal matter.
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A
However they wanted. They wanted us to think something was going on with Kelly.
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B
They did. But then they also want us to know nothing is going on with Kelly. But they definitely wanted, like, a moment for themselves.
- [31:49]
A
Yeah. Because they waited a little. She was like, mia. And they didn't say anything. And they wanted us to be like, oh, what's going on with Kelly? And then they let us know, like, there's nothing going on.
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Kelly has been absent from her talk show for more than a week to handle, quote, a personal matter. According to her new report. The singer is, quote, the stronger, but doesn't kill you. Singer is, quote, completely fine, but she has been, quote, dealing with a personal matter that does not directly involve her. Sources told TMZ on Wednesday.
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A
The unfortunate talent show contestant turned pop star turned host.
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B
No, it is so.
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A
It is annoying.
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B
That was really crazy that they did that. But anyways, they said that it's not cause for alarm yet.
- [32:29]
A
No, they said she's dealing with a personal matter. And then they also added, like, that has nothing to do with her. I'm like, so it's not personal?
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B
Like, what are you thinking?
- [32:36]
A
I'm thinking, like, someone in her life. Like, she needs to be there for someone. Hmm.
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B
Yeah. Yeah.
- [32:44]
A
They didn't give me much to work on here. I don't know.
- [32:47]
B
Yeah. But I think all's well. You know, it could just be something as simple as, like, someone is sick. Like, Right. The flu, maybe.
- [32:54]
A
Yeah, right. Maybe not. A virus has hit her home.
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B
Yeah. Maybe, like, grandma needs her.
- [32:59]
A
It's just so crazy because I think, like, Kelly's stability and how, like, she just shows up. Right. We take that for granted because she's never. Not when you do a daytime show. Like, that's a lot of work. She also then does all of her other hosting things in addition to being the face of Wayfair and other companies. So she's very. She has a good work ethic and we're not used to her not showing up. I feel. Feels it's an unsettling feeling.
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B
Yeah. But it is a weird thing when like. And feel it with this show too. Like, when you're like, do something public every single day. And like, you can't even have, like, one day to do something without like, explaining or, you know, without the whole world knowing. You can't take a day off.
- [33:36]
A
You can actually, like, with Kelly.
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B
Oh, they pre record.
- [33:39]
A
It's pre recorded. They can film like, when I like, they did like two or three episodes in a day now it's still pretty topical, so I don't think she films like, months in advance. But a lot of the daytime shows are, like, completely scripted and, and prerecorded. So I think if she needed to take a day off, they could like, double up on the next day and like. Yeah, extra episodes that. But if she needs a chunk, a big period of time, she's going to have to take a bit of a sabbatical. And that's what we're seeing here.
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B
I need a sabbatical.
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A
I'm a tenured professor.
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B
I feel like we're tenured here. We actually are taking the sabbatical this summer. I feel like that's a great way to describe what we're doing. Sabbatical.
- [34:16]
A
Yeah. I think when a lot of shows go dark, they say, like, we're on hiatus. No, no, we are on sabbatical. And I don't know why I feel like sabbaticals are only like, for college.
- [34:25]
B
Professors and they're so respected. It's like you're not. Oh, you're not just like, laying in bed. You're like, slob learning or something.
- [34:31]
A
You know, I assume if you're on sabbatical, like, you have a fossil brush and you are in Egypt.
- [34:35]
B
Oh, that's because it means a period of paid leave granted to a university teacher or other worker for study or travel. Traditionally one year for every seven years worked. Claudia, we've been doing this show for seven years. We have earned a sabbatical.
- [34:47]
A
I just want to say, like, getting a whole year off because you worked for seven years. Like, the entitlement of college professors, like, that's insane.
- [34:56]
B
Yeah, it's a nice job.
- [34:58]
A
Do you know. Do you know who else works for seven years in a row? Everyone who needs to live.
- [35:03]
B
Yeah, but I guess, like, and they.
- [35:06]
A
Don'T have summers off and Winter break. Like.
- [35:08]
B
Like a college doesn't break.
- [35:10]
A
Right. And, and, and office hours.
- [35:13]
B
But I guess it's like they can justify it as being like, if you're a professor, like you, you've learned and studied, and how can you grow and have more to give?
- [35:21]
A
You need to learn more in order to teach more.
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B
Take a year off to go and learn more, to come back with more to teach. Well, that's how I feel about our sabbatical.
- [35:30]
A
Well, so I sit here and speak on my own experiences. Right. And I need to live those experience those experiences in order to share them. So a year off is good for my work.
- [35:42]
B
Yeah, well, it's not. You won't have a job to come back to.
- [35:45]
A
Literally. Like, I, like, I know you guys are gonna be really, like, impatient with me on my maternity leave. And, like, that's three months, so I think that's kind of the Max.
- [35:55]
B
Yeah, well, the show is off two months, so that's true for us.
- [35:59]
A
But I'm talking about me specifically. I think, like, I have a. Definitely a contingent of fans here.
- [36:03]
B
Like, we're gonna miss you.
- [36:04]
A
Who are going to miss me. Yeah, specifically.
- [36:06]
B
They might not even tune in without you.
- [36:09]
A
Don't do that. You guys, don't do that. Not cool.
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B
Are you ready for our next story? Some exciting news three.
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A
Yeah, I'm ready.
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B
Wendy Williams looks ecstatic as she hits a New York City hotspot after passing her psych evaluation with flying colors. Wendy Williams was spotted leaving a New York City hotspot after she was hospitalized and subjected to a psychiatric evaluation. The TV personality appeared in good spirits as she smiled.
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A
Why?
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B
For the outing at Max Tucci's Tucci restaurant in NoHo on Wednesday night. Have you been there?
- [36:45]
A
No.
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B
City influence.
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A
That's why I'm not a New York City influencer.
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B
She kept it casual, wearing a green and orange bomber black top and tights. Photos of her. She looks so, so happy. So basically, there's been a lot going on with her. In the last weak, she was, like, photographed looking frazzled. She was taken in for a psych evaluation to, like, finally get to the bottom of, like, is Wendy okay? What's going on?
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A
And there she has been maintaining that she's totally fine, but she's been put in this conservatorship, and we don't know if it's a situation where it's like, a crazy person saying they're fine or, like, somebody really taking advantage of somebody who's having, like, a mental breakdown.
- [37:18]
B
So she got evaluated psychiatrically. She Passed. She's fine. She's free. The conservatorship is over. Wendy is back now.
- [37:27]
A
I hope that this works out in the best possible way because I feel like our frame of reference for. And I'm going to say the thing that I feel like you're not supposed to say for like conservatorships is Britney Spears. And while her. The conservatorship that she was in and the people that were a part of it were corrupt. Like, I don't know that she was a poor candidate for a conservatorship. Like when she was released, it was clear that this was. Is someone who maybe needs structure like that. The one that she found herself in with, you know, Lee, her dad and then that woman Lee, whatever. Not good. But there was maybe something to be said about.
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B
Didn't come out of nowhere.
- [38:07]
A
That level of protection. I hope that with Wendy it's the opposite case where it's like she never needed one in the beginning to begin with.
- [38:14]
B
Yeah. Do you have doubts that?
- [38:16]
A
No, I don't. I actually, I have believed Wendy this whole time.
- [38:19]
B
I hadn't known what to believe because both cases are just like so hard to swallow. If true. Like the one where she's obviously she's unwell or the other one where she's fine and she's being taken advantage of. But I'm happy to know that she is fine. I hope she enjoys her life selfishly, like, you know, maybe a little. Back to work. Give us some good bits again.
- [38:41]
A
I think Wendy Williams, I think she. I don't think now.
- [38:44]
B
I think they took all her money.
- [38:46]
A
Well, she also, she is sick. Like, this isn't a perfectly healthy well person. But they're. Just because like you have illnesses, both physical or mental, doesn't mean you don't have access to your own money. Like, that's not. It's not just like, boom, push a red button. Conservatorship. So she is quite ill. You know, she has graves disease. She has a lot of health issues.
- [39:07]
B
Yeah.
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A
So I don't know if we'll see her like hustling back, you know, hot topics.
- [39:11]
B
But I do think they took her money. So I think if she'll want to like, live at a certain level, she should do a podcast. It's like such a. She would be a natural. And it's a low lift if you're good at it.
- [39:20]
A
Yeah. Yeah. We need to get Wendy some. Some low lift work.
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B
Yeah. Also, so they're going to use the results from the psych eval. To enter guardianship. And they are waiting to retest her for frontotemporal dementia after she denied that she suffered from the condition, though she was diagnosed with it in 2023.
- [39:40]
A
While somebody who was diagnosed would deny.
- [39:43]
B
That they have it, but would someone who was diagnosed packed a psych eval? 10 out of 10. Flying colors, they say.
- [39:49]
A
Yeah, if they're just having, like a good day. That's the thing with dementia. Like, it hits and it doesn't, you know.
- [39:54]
B
Wow.
- [39:55]
A
Especially in the beginning.
- [39:56]
B
Ruining the story for me.
- [39:57]
A
No, I'm saying it's still, like, possible.
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B
Yeah. Okay. So we shall see. This is a bit of good news.
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A
Yes. It's a big W for www.
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B
Yes. Are you ready for our next story? Yeah, I don't think you're ready for this show.
- [40:15]
A
You don't?
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B
I don't think so.
- [40:16]
A
Oh, but it's the fourth story.
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B
Yeah, the fourth, fifth.
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A
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Our next story. Nikki Glaser is returning to host the 2026 Golden Globes, and she hopes it'll land her role on the White Lotus. So Nikki joked, but also humbly accepted the gig of host for next year's Golden Globe. She said, quote, hosting the Golden Globes this year was without a doubt the most fun I've ever had in my career. I can't wait to do it again, this time in front of the team from the White Lotus who will finally recognize my talent and cast me in season four as a Scandinavian Pilates instructor with a shadowy past.
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A
Now that we're just like coming off of award season, I could take a look at all the awards at a glance. Like, the Golden Globes are truly a highlight. And I think they're, they're a good show because they're very casual. Right. Like, it's like a seated dinner. It's not so formal. It's tv, it's movies, it's like every, it's music, it's people from all different walks. And then Nikki Glaser like, really made it so fun. And I feel like when we recapped the Grammys, the Oscars, like all the big award shows this year, the Golden Globes were definitely what I enjoyed the most. And I think a lot of it had to do with her.
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B
Yes.
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A
So it's a no brainer.
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B
What they have in their column is that they go first and so you're excited and you're not fatigued. And this is our first time seeing all these people, not our fifth time. And it's all just very exciting and new and, and the dinner setting and then having a great, funny host, like.
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A
It'S, it is all on top.
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B
It is one of the better ones when you, like, look at them all on an even playing field. But the fact that it goes first really helps.
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A
That's a good point. I don't know if I realized that, that they go for, they kind of open the award season. And it's so funny because I feel like the Golden Globes really struggled. They were canceled a couple of years ago and I've been canceled, like as a program now. They were moved from, taken off tv, I think like losing their funding. Nobody was watching it. And there was like this last ditch effort by people in Hollywood to bring it back. And I remember they brought it back. I'M like, enough. Like, people don't want it. Leave us alone. But you know what? I'm woman enough to say I might have been wrong because I had a good time, and I think Mickey Glaser is a huge part of that. It was no surprise that they were going to book her again. Like, she crushed it. I'm sure her salary, it's huge because we were talking about her payday. Right. What did she. She had said she got paid.
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B
I thought it was, like, $500,000, but.
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A
Yeah, I was thinking 400, so something around there. And she has all this leverage now. I wouldn't be surprised if she got a million dollars.
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B
Yeah. Or, like, more.
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A
She deserves every penny.
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B
Yeah. She really does. Okay, so she was paid just over $400,000, but it will rise when, like, coming back.
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A
And then who hosted the Grammys? Trevor Noah. Who hosted the Oscars? Conan. Yeah. Like, when you look at the landscape of people who hosted this year, she's the only woman, and she was the only one who did a good job.
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B
So y. I also feel like Globes is a good format, like, and ripe for just comedy, because even if you think of Jo Koy, which was obviously a train wreck, like, it was hysterical in the sense that it was so painful to watch. Like, the way that it's, like, it's not. We don't have performances up there. It's just, like, someone talking, like, whether it's good or bad, like, it's gonna be entertaining.
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A
Because of the structure of the show, it relies on a host probably more than all the others.
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B
And, like, really, it's very intimate with the crowd. It's not like the person on stage can't see the audience. So it is just a interesting dynamic to watch. And when it's good, it's great. And when it's bad, though, it's, like, still, like, good in a cringe way.
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A
I mean, we're still talking about Jo Koy. Sadly for Jo Koy.
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B
Sadly for Jo Koy.
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A
That was so crazy.
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B
That was so crazy. So very exciting for Nikki. Looking forward to that. Would you like a fifth and final story? Do you want to go into the TV recap?
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A
What is. What do you have?
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B
Well, it wasn't what I wanted to talk about because I did want to watch the episode of Kardashians first, but Kim Kardashian is making news because not only did she pay for her engagement ring from Kris Humphries, he made her give it back.
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A
So, yeah, I actually do want to talk about this because I have like an extremely hot take, Kim shared on.
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B
The recent episode of Kardashians. They were at a. Her and Chloe were at a wedding in India. So they were talking about wedding rings and she shared that. She first of all shared like the size and scale of her previous ring, saying her first one when she was married to Damon Thomas was a cushion cut, 14 carat. She said she still has it. And then she recalled how her ring with Chris Humphries is an emerald cut 18 carat. But she revealed that she no longer owns that. She said, I didn't keep that. I was pregnant with north, still married to him, and in order to divorce him, he said I had to give him the ring in the divorce. But Chloe interjected, saying that Kim was actually the one who bought the ring and he contributed a fifth of the price. Also, the ring was made by Lorraine Schwartz was in the room for this conversation. Unclear if that means Kim paid for fifths or she got a discount.
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A
20% came from Chris Humphries. Unclear where the other 80% came from.
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B
So they didn't say explicitly and discount, I believe. Or did he pay a fifth of the discounted price also? Am I crazy? 14 carats, 18 carat ring. Is that not the biggest thing in the world?
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A
Huge. Huge. Now I want to say something about this. Are you ready?
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B
Put respect on Chris Humphrey's name.
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A
No, but like, can we just lay off? Like I've had enough. Like, like it's funny. Haha. Yeah. Oh, he's poor. You know what? Like we destroyed the man's life, okay? It was funny. Like I, I don't. Like, I don't. I think we're beating a dead horse here. Nobody thought he paid for it, okay? Nobody thought that he was playing on the Minnesota. Some things he wasn't good. He had $3. Like we didn't think he bought the Lorraine Schwartz diamond, okay?
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B
No, but if he didn't buy the ring, that's no kn Wanted a big ring and he could afford it. I think it's like he made her give it to him when he didn't pay for it.
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A
I'm sure he asked for it in the divorce. And by the way, if she gave it to him, that means like he had some legal standing, okay? And I don't think he was that.
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B
Pregnant and wanted to get rid of him.
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A
I don't think it was. I bought this ring. I want it back. I think it was like, you know, we are getting divorced. You exchange. I make less money than you. Maybe he gave up spousal support. Just for the ring. Like, maybe the ring was like.
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B
Yeah. There might be other dynamics at play, but typically in a divorce, like, you do keep the ring because it is a gift.
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A
Yes. Well, I don't know what the laws are in California. Actually, in New York, it is considered a gift. Like, you do not have to give it back under any legal circumstances. I don't know what the. What the rules are in la, but I, I. When I heard this, I understood it as, like, not the ring is mine, but, like, the monetary value of the ring. Like, cut me a check or just give me the ring.
- [48:08]
B
It should cover, you know, what you've done here, which is. It does, but we're still talking about Chris Humphreys. Ever know who Chris Humphries was in, like, in his own professional career, if not for Kim? Like, I don't. I don't think so.
- [48:23]
A
If I was into basketball, yes. But outside of that, no.
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B
But I just think that the whole thing, it was obviously done very badly. And I think that for Kim and her fans, like, it was one of the moments where she almost, like, lost a lot.
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A
Yes.
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B
Of her fans. People were. I remember it, like, I was like. And who was I? But I just remember, like, it was like, a bad moment for her because it all felt, like, so fake. It felt like he was so used.
- [48:51]
A
That it felt like all the things people had said about the Kardashians up until that point were kind of being proven. And then they had that whole episode of the Kardashians where it was clearly pre. Like, recorded.
- [49:01]
B
Yeah. Later. But then cut in with Chris. Yeah.
- [49:05]
A
And they were, like, editing episodes to make her look good. And that was the first time she ever had, like, real. I think. And it was from the fans. It wasn't just, like, critics. It was from people in high school. I literally remember where I was when I found out. It was, like, not a good look for. It was like, are you serious? Like, you're like, a joke.
- [49:21]
B
Yeah, it was. I think that's a good distinction because even, like, the sex tape was a scandal, but, like, not from her fans didn't care. Like, the fans really did not. Like, what happened with Chris Humphries. We always say justice for Chris on Breeze. Like, to give the marriage 72 days. Like, you really don't give a.
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A
Like, such a bad edit on their show. And I know you could say, well, but look, he was, like, mean to her in the gans of ort. It's like, yeah, well, that's her show and they're producing it. And they're cutting it together. I don't think that's, like, a fair reflection of what their marriage was really like.
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B
It was the NBA lockout, which, seriously, the NBA lockout, because these two would still be married if he had been gainfully employed during the time that they were married. They're living in an apartment in New York with her sister and Scott. Like, this is not a recipe for a successful new marriage. And, like, it. She didn't even care to make it work because she. To give it a chance because she didn't care.
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A
Yeah. So it was. It was like a fake marriage. And it was just like this whole time people had been saying, like, the worst things about Kim. But, like, we saw in her what nobody else did. Like, her real fans were like, you guys are just jealous. Whatever. But then she did this thing, and we were like, oh, well, it was.
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B
Just a bad moment. Like, and of course, like, we've all moved on. And then she reached greater heights than ever before with Kanye. And like, like, you know, saw, like, had a vision for her life in the future. And like, now in hindsight, with Chris Humphries and small potatoes, like, no, of course.
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A
But at the time, it was like, a big scandal. And I think that, like, it didn't go the way that she thought it would. Like, people were actually upset with her, like, her fans. So now I think she thinks enough time has passed where she can. Like, but to be honest about it, I'm over.
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B
Like, I just don't think it's a joke. Like, this was this man's life. Like, and it's just.
- [50:48]
A
No. And he, by the way, he is a joke now. Like, you see him on red carpets. That it's always, like, jokey. Chris Humphries. Hahaha. Like, he's a joke. And I oddly, like, feel defensive of him. Like, can we leave this man alone for all?
- [50:59]
B
I agree. As a Kim fan, like, I moved on and forgave, and we can move forward, and she's obviously, like, like, very happy in her life. But let's let Chris Humphries lie.
- [51:10]
A
Let Chris Humphries lie. I seriously have had enough. So don't be out here making me defend Chris Humphries. Why?
- [51:19]
B
We always defend Chris Humphrey. Freeze.
- [51:20]
A
I know. I actually feel so bad for him.
- [51:23]
B
I know. But it's also, like, a little bit on him. Like, he could have done something with his life. Like, he had the biggest stage in the world. And also all this sympathy from Kim's fans.
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A
Like, go make something of yourself to the victimhood. Yeah, like, he became the victim he wished to see in the world. Like, yeah, he didn't. You're right. He didn't pick himself up by his bootstraps and make them all great for him.
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B
He's the name on everybody's lips. Like, he could have done something with his life, and he didn't. So that's.
- [51:47]
A
No. He also then, like, really, like, his career deteriorated. And basketball, like, they don't give a fuck if you're popular in popular culture. Like, you good. Are your points going in the basket? Like, he just started to, like, stink it up too. I think it took a toll on him. Like, and it started to affect his playing.
- [52:02]
B
Sad. But, like, if Tristan can do it. If Tristan can get on the court week after week.
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A
Tristan, like, can't, but, like, he's always playing. No, he's really not good anymore.
- [52:12]
B
Today. He's not good, but, like, ever since the original, it's been a slow decline. Like, he got on the court and played basketball after the Jordan woods drama while people were booing him. Like, if Tristan can do it, you can do it.
- [52:24]
A
It's kind of like how we have to come and do the show every day. Like, if someday we say something, we get, like, a lot of backlash. Like, the next day. We can't hide. Like, we have to come out here.
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B
It's true.
- [52:31]
A
We are. We are the Tristan Thompson's of the podcasting sphere.
- [52:34]
B
We are, but the haters, like, aren't in the room with us, you know?
- [52:38]
A
Oh, that's so true. Like, physically.
- [52:39]
B
Physically, yes. So listen, he gets, like, booed three games and he still plays and they still put him on because he obviously scores points.
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A
Right.
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B
I think Tristan's, like, pretty decent basketball.
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A
What team does he play for?
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B
Cleveland.
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A
No, Jackie.
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B
Yes, Cleveland. On last week's episode. True. Went to Cleveland for her first game. Chloe was there. Everyone thought they were together, but they weren't.
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A
Oh, yeah, you're right. He played on Cleveland, like, at the beginning of.
- [53:07]
B
Beginning of his career. Then I think he went to the South. Then he went to la, not the Lakers, I believe the Clippers. And now back to Cleave.
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A
Got it. Okay, let's talk about Summer House. So the episode opened and we kind of, like, put to bed the Paige Kyle thing, which, like, I didn't like. Like, I feel like it ended before it was really over. But Paige's whole thing was like, this is not my circus, not my monkeys. Like, leave me out of it. So she wasn't gonna sit and, like, go tit for Tat with Kyle on like the Craig stuff or the Hannah stuff, which I kind of did want to see, but it's not her problem. I agree with her. Like, I just. Kyle gets away with too much.
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B
Yeah. I think they're just like, brushing it under the rug again. And because Peach and Craig have since broken up, it's not gonna flare up again. Otherwise it would have and it just becomes like this bigger dust bunny under the rug of their relationship. But you know what? Some. Some things are just like always going to be a conflict. And you can either let it ruin your relationship or just ignore it. And I think for them, especially with Amanda, they just have to ignore certain things. That's. Yeah, that works.
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A
It makes the show less interesting because we can't really ever like, fully dissect. And it renders Kyle and Amanda, like, kind of irrelevant to most storylines because there's not much that can be done about it. I actually really enjoyed this episode for the reason that it felt very different than episodes in the past. Like, they all went out. I don't even care that there weren't cameras. They never all go out together. And they actually. They didn't go out for 30 minutes. They were home at 2:30. Like, they went out then they also had like, separate dinners. I liked that dinner with Paige. Wes. Craig. Like Rand, not Craig. Excuse me, Kyle. No, what's his name? The tooth.
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B
Craig. Kyle.
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A
Carl.
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B
Carl.
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A
Tooth Boy. So I like that, like, random crew. It made for interesting conversation. Like it was just different. Like.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And then when they're all sitting around the pool, like, talking to Emerald. I can't remember a time when they've ever all been in the pool because.
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B
They are all hungover. So they all just be sat, whatever.
- [55:03]
A
Like they usually just lay in bed or lay in the couch. It's like if I see that kitchen one more time. It was nice to see them in a different part of the house.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And that emerald thing was like, actually interesting.
- [55:14]
B
Also, like, really crazy that he shared.
- [55:16]
A
Yeah.
- [55:17]
B
Well, first of all, I like, I.
- [55:18]
A
Think he was speaking very cautiously because he didn't want to make it seem like he only married his ex girlfriend for a green card. And even if he did say that, I do feel like it's too late. Like, you got your green card. Like, yeah, see Yusakas.
- [55:31]
B
Yeah, but so he said like, we were gonna get married anyway, but just like the immigration issue just like expedited us getting married. But he didn't say how long they were married for.
- [55:40]
A
Yeah. And I just wanted to know More about, like, life as, you know, living here illegally. What he was saying, like, I found that to be so interesting. Like, I just. Of all the things he was gonna say, I was not expecting him to say that.
- [55:52]
B
No. And I wonder if, like, the fact that he got married young is why now he's like a male gigolo, but I. I don't think so.
- [55:59]
A
He didn't make the clear distinction as to what about the marriage forced him out of monogamy forever.
- [56:04]
B
Yeah. And like, him, I. He added some, you know, he value to the episode last night in sharing his story, but otherwise, him using, like, the house as his personal brothel, a hotel, not really, like, interesting to me.
- [56:16]
A
I agree.
- [56:17]
B
Even show us the girls.
- [56:18]
A
Yes. He's like a lone wolf.
- [56:20]
B
He's literally like a border. Like, comes home separately, renting a room from.
- [56:26]
A
Yes.
- [56:27]
B
To bring people back, and that's it. And aside from the conversation by the pool, like, he doesn't even engage with the cast.
- [56:34]
A
He's gonna need to do more now. Let me tell you who's pissing me all the way off is Jesse Solomon. He berated this girl into, like, wanting into liking him, Right? Like, he was so aggressive. I love you. I love you. I love you sleeping in the same bed. I want. You're my girlfriend. And the second she starts to show interest, he's pulling back. And that's just the most toxic trait. And I really can't get over how much it bothers me. Like, all the girls in the house are gassing up. Jesse being, like, she's jealous, she's insecure. She says you can't comment on pictures. Like, you literally said you loved her after meeting her. Like, it just. That's actually the definition. And people always overuse these words. That's love bombing, Right? Like, love bombing love. And then, like, when the girl shows interest, you're gone.
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B
I just.
- [57:13]
A
And then next week, he starts around with Sierra. Like, he's really pissing me off.
- [57:16]
B
I don't know if think it's love bombing, because I feel like love bombing, like, also leads to, like, some sort of toxicity, which I don't think Jesse Solomon is toxic, but I think he's very insincere, and I think he's very unserious. And he doesn't, like, think about what he's saying and, like, what those words will mean to someone. He's just saying it because he's. That. That's how he feels in that moment. I believe that in that moment, he's like, I love her. Like, what's not to love, but your words carry weight. And you can't say stuff like that if then you want to go and rub Sierra's leg and hump her in the pool.
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A
And to be honest, like, I do like him. Like, up until this point when he went back to his room and farted. Like, I. He was like, oh, I've been able to fart for 12 hours. And he lets out the biggest fart. I will never be able to look at him the same. Like, he was in his underwear and he, like, squatted a little bit. Like, he was so disgusting to me in that moment. In, like, a physical sense.
- [58:05]
B
Like, you loved him and you thought that was funny.
- [58:06]
A
No, no, no.
- [58:08]
B
Yeah, I'm really getting over him. I don't like how he doesn't want to, like, progress with Lexi and how he doesn't understand why, like, getting all of Lexi and getting her exclusivity and she's not going to be dating Brooklyn Beckham anymore.
- [58:22]
A
Right.
- [58:22]
B
And Presley Gerber because she's focused on you. Why that doesn't mean that you have to pull back with other people as well. Like, everything is a trade off. And the fact that he doesn't see, like, you're going to get this prize, but these are the things that you will have to, quote, unquote, give up or that you'll have to change about yourself. You're not changing yourself, but you change your behaviors when there's another person in your life and that she is coming off as, like, crazy for wanting those things and that the other girls are endorsing that she wants too much from him. That, like, I know people, that's the.
- [58:51]
A
Type of behavior they literally roasted west for at the reunion last year.
- [58:55]
B
I just want to say I think this phrase is overused, but I do think in a situation like that, like, they're not being girls, girls, because agree they're really throwing.
- [59:03]
A
She's really not asking for a lot. Like, really the bare minimum.
- [59:07]
B
And even a person who's not a jealous person. Like, I could never be one of these people in the house who. It's like you are seeing someone and then that person is, like, laying on top of another person or, like, legs crossed over another person or like, even.
- [59:21]
A
When they cut to some of the stuff he said at the beach about, like, Lindsay's boobs and stuff, like, inappropriate.
- [59:25]
B
Inappropriate. And so, I mean, at such an early stage in their relationship, I would just be like, okay, we have different, like, ideas of commitment relationships, like how you behave. So I don't Think it would work. Even the way they all dress around each other, it's like, if some people are in relationship, it's just not for, like, I. It's not for me.
- [59:43]
A
Yeah, I agree. I do. Quickly, back to the beach. Really want to talk about the conversation between Danielle and Lindsay. I can't stand her. And, like, I definitely am, like, biased. I just don't like her. But then she does things like, she's so awful. Could you have come into a conversation with your quote unquote best friend who, like, you're. You're also, like, newly back together, so you're not trying to, like, cause drama. Could you have come in more judgmental about her life choices? Like, if she moved in with Turner, you would say she's moving too fast. But because she's not living with. I'm sorry, I don't know if we're supposed to, like, say her boyfriend's name. I can't decide. Okay, well, because she's not living with her boyfriend, which is definitely unconventional, but there's nothing conventional about how she's lived her life up until this point. There's nothing conventional about how her daughter was, like, conceived. Like, it's just the Lindsay way. And it's like, get on board or shut up. Like, and also, what the. Do you know you have a boyfriend?
- [60:30]
B
No.
- [60:30]
A
Like, what do you have? You don't know?
- [60:32]
B
No. And there's no template for what Lindsay is doing. And so her approach is like, we did this thing very unconventionally, but the rest of our relationship, we're going to try and, like, follow a. A more normal roadmap because I think that's what will be best for us. And. Okay, like, that works for me. And if she'd said this thing was unconventional. So the rest of our relationship is going to be unconventional, and we are going to live to. I would say, okay, that works for me. It's like, whatever works for you, Lindsay. Like, if you want him there all the time to live with you and you're pregnant, like, and that's what's best for you, let him move in if you don't want him there and you don't want to put that pressure on a relationship and you want to have some. Your own space because this is, like a new person and that works for you. Great.
- [61:08]
A
Like, she should just be everything she shared with such. Yes.
- [61:13]
B
Especially because she's so happy.
- [61:14]
A
She's clearly trying to be cautious, too. Like.
- [61:17]
B
Like, even though it might not be for everyone, she's making the right decisions for herself. It's not like someone's. Like, you know, when you see someone making decisions you don't agree with, and they also seem to be suffering. Like you say to them, like, listen, I think this is not what's best for you. But she obviously. What happened?
- [61:32]
A
Your mic flag is upside down.
- [61:34]
B
Oh, who gives a.
- [61:35]
A
Me.
- [61:36]
B
I move around all the time. I change it all every day. My. I'm always moving my mic around.
- [61:41]
A
How are people gonna know when they see this clip how amazing our show is and where they can tune in?
- [61:45]
B
Because they will be hearing the words coming out of my mouth for anyone.
- [61:51]
A
If this clip. Clip stopped you dead in your tracks and you don't know where to find it, we are the toast. Okay.
- [61:56]
B
They could have seen yours. They could have seen the iPad on your lap and the one right here.
- [62:00]
A
Yeah. Or they could have seen your mic flag. Sorry. Continue with your thought.
- [62:04]
B
I don't remember. That's the end of it.
- [62:08]
A
Just. It's also coming from someone who last year was like, you're moving too fast. You're moving too fast. You're moving too fast. So look, she's being cautious.
- [62:14]
B
She's doing things differently.
- [62:16]
A
Yeah, she's just like a fabissa.
- [62:18]
B
She just wants to say the opposite of what someone is doing would be better for them.
- [62:22]
A
What Lindsay sees in her as, like, a friend, I'll never know.
- [62:25]
B
She cleans up the party. She sets up the party. She does a lot of the physical, like, maybe not mentally and emotionally. Is she a great friend, but, like, physically she's a good friend.
- [62:33]
A
Yeah. Especially for a pregnant person. That's a good point.
- [62:35]
B
You know, and sometimes you need someone to cover, like, the. You would love a physical friend.
- [62:39]
A
I. Yeah, that's what I keep been around for. Another random thing that I found interesting from the episode was Wes talking about his job. I actually think that show that Complex gave him is a good idea. I'm surprised I haven't heard of it because this was last summer. The show obviously has made no waves on social media, but it's a good concept. It reminds me a little bit of like, chicken. Chicken shop. Yeah, but like, American. And he's just like this very all American, relatable guy. I thought it was a great idea. I wonder why it wasn't successful.
- [63:07]
B
Maybe it is successful. Plenty of people have show, like, web shows like this, and you might not have heard of them. Plus, it's on Complex, so you don't consume. Like, go to their YouTube page. Like, go look at the. I'm sure it does Fine. I think he interviews, like, it was weird that he said B.C. and D, because it's like, your guests are gonna see this.
- [63:22]
A
Yeah, rude.
- [63:23]
B
Yeah, rude. I think he also interviews summer house, like, reality stars.
- [63:28]
A
Oh, yeah. It reminds me, like.
- [63:30]
B
Like he date ever.
- [63:32]
A
Oh, a cute name too. He reminds me also a little bit of the guy who hosts Wingstop. What's. Oh, my God.
- [63:40]
B
Yeah, Hot ones.
- [63:41]
A
Hot ones. Like, he's just very personable, very down to earth. I actually think it has great potential.
- [63:46]
B
Yeah. I'm only seeing three videos, but I'm just on the search page. But just because I don't know if.
- [63:51]
A
He still works for Complex.
- [63:54]
B
What? You don't?
- [63:55]
A
Oh, I don't know if he's still.
- [63:56]
B
Well, then he's like, a very employed individual, which is impressive and also surprising because, like, how badly he came off on TV last year. But he was working for Bleacher Report. I saw a clip of him on Jason Tardick's podcast talking about how he was banned from the NFL, which is, like. Like, interesting.
- [64:11]
A
Yeah.
- [64:11]
B
And then he was also sharing how his week, like, he's going from New York to here to there. Like, he's. He's booked and busy and good for.
- [64:18]
A
Yeah, Hustler. Yeah, I agree. And I like that he had that complex show. I think that they should bring it back, like, if there was something there.
- [64:25]
B
And I also think that for him, he's, like, a good person to be a reality star because he, like, works in new media and Rising Tide raised all shies, and he'll get more views on his. On his media things, and it's good for Complex or wherever he's working. But then I also think that. That it's. It's good for him as a, like, a person on this show to see him, like, employed and working, doing other things, especially for men on reality tv. To make a career of being a media personality is so hard, which is why I love Harry Jowsey. And the other ones complain. Like Carl. Well, it's easier to be a woman influencer, right? Oh, shut up. Look at West.
- [64:59]
A
Wait, did you see that? Carl is now crowdfunding, or what's it called? Crowdsourcing Soft bar.
- [65:05]
B
I did. I actually booked, bookmarked.
- [65:06]
A
It just about died when I saw that. So as you guys know from last season, Carl has this idea to open up a bar that doesn't serve alcohol. Lindsay, like, shred him straight to filth. That it's one of the worst ideas he's ever had. And he is still, you know, going he's had a launch party. He had. He literally. He made merch. I thought, like, the bar was about to be open. Meanwhile. And he's talking about his investors meanwhile. He doesn't have any investors. He doesn't have anything. He then posted, we're so excited. We are raising money. Crowdfunding. And so basically, like, I can give $200 to become, like, a.1% ownership in a bar in Brooklyn. The reception was not positive as a shock to nobody. I was floored to hear that because just the way he's been acting up until this point, I assume that the bar. He was, like, sharing recipes on TikTok. I saw. I thought we were there.
- [65:57]
B
I thought the bar had, like, partners and that he has investors. He's like, so you know, someone else has this idea and he's going to be the face of it, too. And. Okay, that works. I saw that he was crowdfunding. And then I also. I believe that this season they have an event for softball. He has, like, an event at the house that's like a soft launch and.
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A
That'S a year ago and you still don't have money to open the bar.
- [66:19]
B
And also, like, it's expensive to open a bar for sure. But he makes good money from the show and he has investors. And you guys can't cobble together enough for, like, one space.
- [66:28]
A
I don't know that he has investors.
- [66:30]
B
He keeps saying.
- [66:31]
A
He just, like, made it seem that way. We. I'm right.
- [66:34]
B
That's her.
- [66:35]
A
Yeah. No, for. I think the minimum was, like, $200. The comments were not it. I was giggling hard.
- [66:42]
B
I'm going. I'm trying to find it, but I don't know if I will.
- [66:47]
A
And I know he can't stop because it'll be like an admission that Lindsay was right. But before the train gets, like, fully off the tracks, he really needs to stop. It's a bad idea. Clearly, like, you tried, right? It's been over a year that you' trying to get this up and running. There's no interest from investors. There's no interest from crowdfunding. Like, at what point do you let an idea die? You don't, because you don't want Lindsay to have been right.
- [67:10]
B
I don't know. I feel like he's gonna keep it going. I feel like the cast are really gassing him up. Every time I see one of these posts, like, everyone is like, go, Carl. This is awesome here.
- [67:22]
A
People say that they're not showing up. That's the difference.
- [67:25]
B
Yeah. No, here's the the post he posted. The opportunity to invest in softbar is coming soon. We've been building the vision of soft bar mindful, blah, blah, blah. Our thoughtful and exciting programming and events make this experience like no other. Softbar is a blam platform that offers incremental revenue sources and significant corporate value. Stay tuned to learn more about how you can get involved in own a piece of soft bar.
- [67:44]
A
Like, okay, Lularoe, then Paige.
- [67:47]
B
Like, let's go page Paige.
- [67:51]
A
That's really nice of her. I think she's really trying to be on good terms with him.
- [67:55]
B
Specifically of.
- [67:56]
A
She is Carl. She's really supportive. It's really sweet. But at some point I feel like she's actually doing him a disservice. Yeah. Because it's one thing, especially with like online stuff, like if you launch merch, like something people can buy from home or support from home as a reality star, it's kind of easy money, a physical bar. But I think he like sees themselves as like the east coast vanderpump rules. This is their sir. The difference is sir first of all existed before and sir served alcohol.
- [68:25]
B
Yeah.
- [68:26]
A
And I think a bar that doesn't. It is. And I don't know how many times you can get people to show up.
- [68:34]
B
Yeah, I. I don't know. Let's see what happens. He obviously has big plans. He's got a lot of branding and trucks and. And. Yeah, so we shall see. And then also. Oh, another also.
- [68:46]
A
If anybody contributed to the crowdfunding, like, please let me know how that goes.
- [68:50]
B
Yeah. And how much do they need to raise?
- [68:53]
A
I don't know. The minimum was like 200 from for any person to do it.
- [68:56]
B
We've hit our goal.
- [68:58]
A
I mean, a restaurant, like, that's expensive. I don't know. I imagine like $50,000 at least.
- [69:03]
B
What? More software investment?
- [69:06]
A
That's assuming he has no other investors. No, he's not contributing anything personally.
- [69:11]
B
Okay. They've raised 50k and they're. They're gold. 75,000 minimum goal. But it might be like go fund me where it keeps going up.
- [69:19]
A
Wait, they've reached 50. I'm shocked.
- [69:22]
B
So.
- [69:23]
A
And by the way, by the way, that's a lot.
- [69:27]
B
Oh, you just said 50k is what they need.
- [69:30]
A
Oh, my God. I did. And so I. If that's all small contributors. That's a lot of people.
- [69:36]
B
A lot of monsters.
- [69:38]
A
Maybe I'm wrong. I don't think I am, but maybe I am.
- [69:42]
B
Maybe they've got a deck. They've got decks on decks.
- [69:45]
A
Decks that's what people who aren't successful do. They make decks. I'm sorry? Like if you have so many decks, it means you're not busy.
- [69:52]
B
Also like the first bullet point is such a shark tank. No, no. Entering it like the N A industry is an early one trillion dollar business. If we could just get a piece of that pie, we'd have a billion.
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A
Hate that on shark tank.
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B
They hate that.
- [70:08]
A
It's a great point.
- [70:10]
B
It says entering the $987 billion non alcoholic beverage market in hip NYC space.
- [70:15]
A
They don't like that.
- [70:16]
B
No, they don't like. Don't tell me how you're gonna get a piece of this big pie. Like that's just not. That's pie in the sky.
- [70:22]
A
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B
No we'll know normal now. Love you. Bye.