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Good morning, millennials.
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Welcome back to the toast and Happy Friday. A cause to celebrate, except for the fact that the virus I've been meaning to, literally meaning to throw hands with has now infiltrated my sister. And not only has it infiltrated my sister, it's infiltrated my sister's ability to do her job. So it's infiltrated the toast heretofore. It has infiltrated me. And today's episode. Jackie is such a trooper. Still showing up for work. It is audio only. She looks so cute in her pajamas, but. Hey, Jax, how you doing?
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Hey, turd. I've been better. I think this is the sickest I've ever podcast. We'll see how it goes. I hope I can speak without choking and I hope that I can have a personality. These are like the first words I'm uttering today.
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I don't want you to worry about the speaking.
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This is your dream come true.
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I've got it down. And actually there was so much going on in the world last night, like with NFL honors and then Craig on Watch Evans Live. Like, I have a lot to say, so I don't want you to worry. I don't want. I want you to speak, of course, when you feel comfortable. But I just want you to know, like, I got you.
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Thank you so much. I know. I watched Southern Charm last night and Craig was on watch what happens live. I watched all of it. And to not come on and discuss when we've been waiting for these sorts of answers.
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You had to. Sorry.
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He was being so open.
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Well, I didn't really put together that this was like his first real sit down interview and that it was going to be Watch Robins Live, not a one on one. I'm sorry. Like, if there ever was a time for a person to have a one on one, it was Craig on watch. I was live because I actually felt bad for the other girl. I don't even know who she is. Is she from Southern Charm?
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Maddie from Southern Hospitality, which is love a spinoff show. And considering everyone was there for Craig, I actually thought she did really well and was a good advertisement for Southern hospitality, which I don't watch and I won't watch, but I'm closer to watching it than ever before.
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Yeah. And like, her having the chair next to Andy, like, the whole thing was a little weird. Do you agree?
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I just feel like that was respect for women.
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I thought it was respect for the fact that if she wasn't in the first chair, she would not have been a part of the episode because it was the Craig show.
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I think that they have this unwritten rule when it's a man and a woman, that the woman would sit in that chair.
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Oh, that's really interesting. I think it's more like there's so many different factors. And for this particular girl, like, usually if it's like, two celebrities or Bravo liberties of equal value, like, the closer to Andy is like, the person who's a little bit more famous. But with Craig, I actually really feel like if they were going to have a second person there, especially somebody who's, like, on a new show, she really would have gotten left behind the whole episode. If she was on the second chair, it was just. Would have been like, Andy. And so I think for the sake of literally keeping her involved in the conversation, she had to be in the middle.
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Yeah. But shockingly, Andy is into Southern hospitality when they were talking about her show. And I don't know any of these people and I don't know the storyline. Like, I haven't had that experience in so long that they were literally speaking Chinese. Like, what? I don't know anyone. It's not like even a housewives that I've fallen off with. Like, I see it on social media. Like, I just was watching two different shows.
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Yeah, that's actually really funny. And I feel like Andy really. Well, him or his producer, like, really did his homework because there's been, like, a lot of, like, Internet law.
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Every question that we've even been itching, like Rachel Kirkano.
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Yeah, but he was. Oh, yeah, that. But I mean, in terms of, like, the actual nitty gritty of Paige and Craig, like, so many, like, Internet theories and different, like, points of view on Team Page. And I feel like he really hit all the points that the Internet would have wanted. I feel like he wasn't going to, like, flop this moment because so many times, like, there's, like, a big thing happening on what Shop and Simon. And he doesn't understand, like, the cultural impact because it's, like, so chronically online. But I think he really understood and he had good questions and I think he did a very good job.
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I also feel like Andy feels like Paige and Craig owe him and the network the truth and that nothing is off limits because they are both network stars. They have benefited so much from their relationship and the network. Even at the end of Southern Charm, which I'll recap at the end of the show because I know not everyone watches, but they did a preview for the rest of the season and they film the breakup post. Breakup it looks like, because, like, everyone's in their winter sweaters. Meanwhile, this is happening in spring. So, like, everyone's in winter. Craig and Austin and Shepard, like, sitting down. He's saying how he bought a ring, and he's devastated. So, like, they picked cameras back up, which, on the one hand is kind of invasive, but on the other hand, like, that's what these two signed up for.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yikes. Okay, so we'll get into that. That's obviously a whole story. And it was the NFL honors last night, so just, like, lots to discuss. So I want you to just feel comfortable kind of taking a backseat. I know you don't usually do that. I want you to know, like, it's okay to not be okay.
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Yeah, I feel a little better just talking. My head feels like a million pounds. I got fever in the night. Like, yesterday I didn't have a fever. I just had, like, body aches and chills. And I thought that that would be the worst of it. But no, today is far worse. And it's the flu because that's what's been going around.
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So something.
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If I had to put a fever. If I had to put a label on it.
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We're so not into labels here at the toast. Something about having a fever, like, really makes you feel like a kid. Like, what grown adult gets a fever?
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No, I know. And I'm, like, laying in bed and I'm like, after taking care of, like, Harry and Charlie all week, I was like, who's going to take care of me? Like, who's going to grab my head?
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That's, like, actually a really fudgeing, depressing, like, moment in your life where you realize, like, the person taking care of you. Because, like, I feel like I'm at the stage where if I'm sick, like, Ben's going to take care of me. But once we, God willing, like, have children, that's no longer. Like, the hierarchy has shifted.
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Yet Zach was off with them, as he should be.
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Right?
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So, like. Because I'm just grateful to get time alone.
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Of course.
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Who's going to order me soup or, God forbid, cook it?
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It's really. It's like, sick and twisted when you think about. Makes me upset.
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But they say you've got to put on your oxygen mask before anyone else, before assisting others.
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I love that. It's so true, by the way.
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I mean, it's literally the law.
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No, but, like, as a metaphor, it's true. Like, I can't help you if I can't even help myself sometimes.
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Sometimes you got to spread yourself in and just get it done, and we'll deal with. Yeah, but my oxygen, at the end.
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Of the day, I love, like, a phrase or a motto that encourages selfishness, you know? Yes, I'm gonna use it.
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Yeah. No, people love that one, especially in the mama community. Like, mama reels.
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Speaking of mamas.
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Okay.
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Shannon.
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Shannon. It's just like, when you already known.
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Yeah. Not to be annoying. Like, we knew, like, the day she found out, like, yeah, of course. I am so happy. And I've been wanting to share this part of my. Not to make everything about me right. I've been wanting to share this part of my TTC journey with the toasters that I couldn't because I didn't want to, like, drag Shannon into it. But Shannon. I were both trying at the same time, and literally the month I got pregnant, I got pregnant because of Shannon.
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She.
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I. I feel like I told the story that I was using those strips.
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Yeah.
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Pre mom strips. I was doing them wrong for, like, literally three months. And I was talking to Shannon about it because we were just, like, swapping stories about how annoying it was to, like, pee on this, like, little thing in the middle of a restaurant. And she was like. And then you put it in the app and like, finally it tells you. I'm like, wait, I hadn't even heard. I was like, what? She's like, yeah, that's how you know which is really your peak. Like, which line is truly darker. The app. Like, you scan it. Oh, my God, she saved me so much time. That was the month I got pregnant. Like, seriously streamline the whole thing for me.
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So you were doing it wrong in the sense of not having. Not using the app just in case anyone's doing it wrong out there.
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Yeah. So I was basically just, like, doing the strips, and you can see the lines, but it's hard to know, like, was yesterday's line darker or, like, a little bit darker? Which day was, like, truly the peak? And if you don't scan it, they'll. You scan it on the app. They'll tell you, like, the exact percentage that you're peaking and if it was more or less than the day before. So it was just. And it's also just an organized way to keep a picture of your strips. Cuz like, if you do it in your photo albums, like, the lighting could be different and it could look weird. So she totally, like, got me preg.
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And you got pregnant by Shannon.
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I got pregnant by Shannon Ford. And I've been wanting to share that and give her, like, so much credit, but obviously I don't want to, like, blow up her spot while she was working through her thing. So, so happy. By the way, everyone, like, TNN is so fertile right now. The good guys.
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TNN supports women.
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TNN supports mothers in the workplace, and they support families.
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And the family.
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It's just kind of like a family channel.
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Abc, TNN Family.
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We've got the good guys on both sides. We've got probably a podcast like it's. The redheads just popped out a baby.
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Like, true.
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We're seriously just like, we're going repopulating the earth.
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Gone but not forgotten.
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Lauren Elizabeth is a core member of tnn. She was the first show we ever.
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She's a founding member.
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She's a founding member. And just because her podcast, like, for right now is not currently on air does not mean that she's not an important, vital founding member of. Of tnn. Thank you for bringing her up. You're right. She is a core mother.
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She is part of her story.
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The mothers of tnn.
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That's beautiful.
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Yeah. So I know you are obviously not feeling well, so let's dive into the Fast 5. We also have the Southern charm recap and Queenie. And we need which I' oh, there's.
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Only one Queenie this week.
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Okay. There's actually two.
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Oh, okay. Let's save it.
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Because I know what. I know what your Queenie is, and I didn't want to choose it in addition, because I wanted to like, you.
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Know, but sometimes someone is a resounding Queenie, like, yes. By unanimous vote.
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But the person I chose for Queenie, like, is just as much of a Queenie as I know who yours is.
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Okay. Okay. So now, without further ado dah doo dah do it is time for the festive stories that you need to know.
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I'm sick. You can't yell at me.
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Hide in. I'm just saying I said first.
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Like, yeah, get it off your forced order.
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That's what I said first. You're saying first.
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Okay, first story. Craig Conover went on Watch what Happens Live last night following an episode of Southern Charm to discuss his breakup with Andy Cohen. So a lot came out from last night. And I just have to mention the scene on Southern Charm between Craig and Paige. I'm sure you've seen clips. They she was visiting him. They went to a farm to, like, see the beekeeper. Remember when he was on the toast, not to make it about us. He was talking about how they love having bees. So they that we saw them, like, go put on their bees, start that journey. So excited about the bees. Like, she's having a panic attack as so real. And then they walk around the farm and talk about their relationship and, like, their dreams because he's like, salivating like, this is my dream chicken. Like, to live on a farm with a bunch of animals and a bunch of kids. And she's kind of like, hold your horses. And it's kind of the same conversation that we've seen them have when they've had these hard conversations of like, one, Craig is ready for all of this. And then two, Paige sometimes wants the same thing that he wants and other times doesn't. He says that, like, she changes her mind a lot and he's just like, giving her the time and patience. But then she's also like, well, don't pressure me. And he's like, I'm not pressuring you. But she's like, even having this conversation is you pressuring me. And like, I think in a relationship, like, you're allowed to ask, like, hey, where are we going? And without it being pressure. And I think he tried to navigate that as best as possible, but she still felt pressured. So that conversation, then knowing that they broke up, like, Obviously reads differently than the ones that they've had in the past, where it's actually the same conversation. They're talking about how, like, they're kind.
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Of now knowing what we know.
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Now what Knowing what we know. We're like, okay, this is. These are the issues that they had, and this is why they broke up. The only thing that's, like, a sticking point. It's like, Craig never ran out of patience. That's what's so crazy. It's like, he didn't say, I can't do this anymore. Like, I want to get married and have kids. She said she doesn't want to do this anymore with him.
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Yeah. So that was kind of the saddest part of what Craig had said on Watch Happens Live was that, like, you know, he and he fully. And we had sort of gathered this based on certain things, but pretty much confirmed, like, Paige was the one who broke up with him. He got dumped, like, kind of, you know, out of the blue in his mind on the phone, and that it wasn't because of the timelines, because he was willing to wait. It was just like that. Paige finally came to the realization that, like, yes, she wants those things, but not with me. And to hear him say that was, like, so sad.
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Craig is. Was moving to New York, so it's not like that was another roadblock of, like, they're. No one will move. Like, he was ready to move and be the one to do that. And then she broke up with him. And so then he had to sort of explain this timeline because Paige had said the other day, like, they broke up over Thanksgiving. Then Southern Charm press tour started, and he's like, did you come on Watch what Happens Live and lie about.
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And by the way, Craig is getting dragged on the Internet, people being like, that's really weird. They're pulling up this, like, Page Six interview that he did, just talking about, you know, how Paige is crushing it on Giggly Squad and the tour.
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You could say that about someone that you broke up with, by the way.
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No, no, but, like, and talking like, they're still together. Like, he was saying things in the interview, and people are like, that's really weird of Craig. Like, they're clowning on him so hard. And I didn't think it was so weird. And he explained himself on Watch Happens Live, and I thought it was a good explanation. He was like, well, first of all, this was, like, three days after the breakup. I was definitely still in denial and shock. And, like, I thought maybe we were gonna work it through so, like, why make a whole big kerfuffle if we're just gonna get back together? And two, like, yeah, I. I didn't want it to. We weren't telling people yet. So I. I have to just do my job. Like, I didn't think it was so weird, but he's getting, like, really made fun of for, like, walking around pretending they're still together. I actually don't think it's weird.
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I didn't think that was weird either from the way that he told the series of events. They were together Thanksgiving. Then he left, and she called and said, like, I think we should break up. Then he has to be in New York for press, and he's staying at her apartment. Like, I think he maybe was in denial. And he sort of alluded to how in the past they've had fights and stuff, but then he also said they didn't fight. I feel like they've gotten to this point a couple times before of, like.
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But then they get off the pot.
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Then they push through. So really, maybe he did think that they were going to get back together. And in which case, like, why air out your dirty laundry or two next day? And to have to, like, say it the next day. It's like, all these girls, like Brianna and Rachel, Kirk, and all they wanted was, like, like a week to process.
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Right.
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And that's what he wanted to. And it made sense when they say it, and it made sense when he says it to me.
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You know, by the way, there are, like, a lot of similarities between, I think, Paige and Craig and, like, other public breakups, but the roles are really reversed because stereotypically, it's like the woman who's really pushing this timeline of, like, wanting to get married and have kids. And, like, that's why I think a lot of people are, like, almost impressed by Paige because she's not falling into that sort of cliche. She's, like, you know, very career focused, very, you know, independent focus. And Craig is kind of the first time we've seen, like, a public relationship where the man is the one who's, like, really wanting to push forward. That's really not the case for most of the people I know in my personal life, too, like, most relationships. So to hear. I think that if it. If. If the roles were reversed, we would all be saying, like, different things. Yeah, but because it's Craig who's the one who's very, like, timeline focused, I think it's kind of short circuiting people a lot. And I think Amanda Batula's interview most recently where she commented on Craig doing the Page Six thing, pretending to still be together. That really blew the whole thing up. And that's what he was directly responding to. On what Shop is, like, she was being, like, a little mean.
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Yeah. And then she also said something about, like, Craig not defending Paige from the cheating rumors.
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And Andy asked about that. That's been, like, a huge topic of conversation because that's, like, that's Paige's big issue with Craig up until this point. Like, I think it might have remained pretty much like an amicable breakup if it weren't for, like, the cheating rumors and then Craig not stepping in and being like, no, that's completely false.
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Yeah. I don't think he did the best job explaining himself, but I understood what he was trying to say, I think, which is, like, that's completely false. He never made any sort of. He didn't allude to her cheating, Never said anything like that. So, like, why does he need to respond to this hoax? And like, we said about Paige when we were recapping their podcast episode, like, real, normal people, like, never thought.
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Didn't think that him.
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So, like, why does he have to respond to the worst people on the Internet and get in the mud with them? And when he said, like, I don't want to be involved, it's like, you are. You are involved. But I, like, I understand not responding to absolutely baseless rumors, because then it gives people the Runway to keep starting.
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Baseless rumors, making shit up a thousand percent. And I think, like, I really see both sides from, like, I can understand how. How Paige is. Like, listen, people are saying horrible things about me, and, like, you know them to not be true. Like, if you could just, like, step your pussy up, like, that would be great. So while if Craig had sort of stepped in and said, but leave Paige alone, like, that would have been really lovely and magnanimous of him. But also, like, Craig is dealing with a lot. And so Craig is sort of excluding himself from the narrative. And. And that's what he was trying to say. And you can't, because you're Craig of Paige and Craig. But he doesn't want to be part of this, like, drama.
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And I'm sure that a part of him, like, is angry. And he said he's angry because she. She is moving on. Like, even though she's not dating that guy Joe, like, they went to a football game together. Like, she's dating. And that's. This is what we said. Like, that's where people start to turn on each other when you, like, see them with the next person, and it's like, we're no longer. We're no longer overarchingly having each other's backs because we're moving on. So it's like, I think he's also just mad that she is moving on, and he doesn't feel like he contributed to those rumors at all. So why is it his job, his.
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Responsibility to, like, get in the gutter with the trolls?
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Yeah.
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Yeah. I also, like, I really want Paige to know that nobody thinks that. Like, I've. I've never once questioned her character during this entire saga. Like, you're allowed to break up with someone 1000%. Like, whether people agree. Like, she should have stayed with him. Who cares? It's her life. Like, she. She is completely valid in wanting to break up with someone. It's her choice. This is a free country, and she's done nothing wrong. Like, she's not a bad person. And I've never once questioned her character. She's allowed to move on with her life and make a decision. And I don't think she cheated on him. And if she did go on a date with somebody four weeks later, like, everybody moves on in their own time. I don't even think that's so crazy. Like, I just think. I think that she is, like, and it's hard because Bravo's so toxic. Like, the fandom is so crazy. Like, the accounts and the blogs and Reddit. So I could see how it's so easy to get caught up in it. But I want her to know, like, normies up here, we. We don't mess around with the carny folk. Like, we are. We're. We're chilling. We know. Like, it's okay.
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Yeah. For me, there's not a bad guy in this story. It's like, two people who I. Stan and I once shipped, and then, like, they broke up in a very amicable way. Not mutual, as Craig says, but, like, you're allowed to break up with someone. You can call them, and then you talk to them for the rest of the week, and then you have that final conversation a few days later. She gave him plenty of time to process and grieve without the world knowing, which is, again, just what, like, Rachel and Very Gracious had been asking for. And, like, there's not a bad guy in this story. I think people just, like, want to find someone to blame. We're so used to that. Like, no.
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And we're mad. Like, we wanted it to work out.
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Yeah. But we're used to something goes wrong, like, you drag someone. But I think most of their relationship, like, we know what the issues were, but we also know that they really liked each other. And, yeah, I think that it just didn't work out. And that happens all the time.
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You're 100, right? There is. We're just very used to being like, team Zach, Brian, team Brianna, like, because.
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There'S, like, a bad person involved.
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But to me, right there, nobody did anything wrong. And I think that people are just, like, projecting their own relationship issues. Like, if you were in a relationship where you felt like somebody led you on for too long, like, you're gonna be team Craig. If you are in a relationship where you feel like somebody that was kind of suffocating you, like, you're gonna be t page. Like, if people are just projecting. You're 100, right. There is nobody at fault here. And it's just a breakup. Like, it's just. It's just so sad. I just love these two so much together.
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Yeah. And it's just sad that, like, what he said. It's like you go from someone being, like, your soulmate, you know, the ins and outs of them, to them being a stranger. That's just, like, a. A crazy thing that happens.
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So. Oh, my God. It's crazy.
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Yeah.
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So wishing them well. I mean, I hate that it's gotten to a place that's contentious, obviously, comparatively, to, like, other public breakups. It could be worse. But I do wish, like, we didn't get to this place.
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But I also think it has a lot to do with the ancillary characters. Austin.
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Yeah.
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Amanda. You know, everyone like, wanting to getting involved, but they're making it messy.
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Agreed.
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So I would just. But I guess it's also like reality tv. Like, these are dramatic people. What do we.
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And this is their job, too.
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Yeah.
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I feel sick.
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I know. I. I do feel sick.
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Yeah, you are. You have the flu.
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Are you ready for a lot?
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Peachy, Craig.
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Thanks a lot. Sick to my stomach. Are you ready for our next story? A little soulmate news, because Haley Steinfeld and Josh Allen made their red carpet debut at the NFL honors nearly three months after their engagement. So the super bowl is popping off. We asked where it was Finally. Finally. Last night was NFL honors. A lot of fun bits, headline news. Haley and Josh walked the carpet together, and they kissed when he won mvp.
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I want to talk about Haley and Josh, but I do want to fill you in. Like, not Dave Portnoy literally being the only person making waves at the Super Bowl. He shared something else on a podcast that I saw this morning that I thought was so interesting. Braxton Barrios was, like, set to guest on, like, two Barstool podcasts, and he canceled, like, the hour before. And Dave is, like, so mad. I think, like, maybe Braxton has either an issue with Barstool or Dave or, like, maybe, I don't know, Alex Earl. Like, it's kind of, if you think about it, like, she's with Unwell. Like, there's a lot, like, connections there. And he is, like, basically asking people to get him Braxton's phone number because he wants to ask Braxton why he canceled.
A
But why would Braxton say yes if there were outstanding issues?
B
I don't know. Well, so Patrick Mahomes basically was asked in a press conference if he'll go on the bus in with the boys podcast now because they've left Barstool. You know, busing with the boys, where Travis went on. Yeah, it's a barstool podcast. And I guess, like, Patrick has beef with Barstool. He said, well, now they have a much likelier chance of me getting on their podcast now that they've left Barstool. That's what he said in the press conference. And so Dave was talking about that on the podcast, being, like, I didn't even know Patrick had an issue with us, but, like, fudge him. And Braxton Barrios, you too.
A
But why would Braxton say yes? Like, I don't know if he has an issue or just something came.
B
I don't know.
A
I'm going to give Braxton the benefit.
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Of the doubt and just. You're going to say something came up, perhaps. Okay. I mean, he couldn't get off the.
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Floor after watching his girlfriend in that commercial.
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Oh, my God. How to talk about her.
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I fallen and I can't get up.
B
That was a brilliant marketing move. Carl's Jr. If you guys are like, you know, some of our young Gen Z listeners, you don't know that, like, back in the day, Carl's Jr. Would run, like, one commercial a year with, like, the hottest girl alive. Classically, you know, Paris Hilton has been one. Lindsay Lohan, like, all the girls of yore, and they always wore these, like, sexy star bikinis and were, like, washing cars, eating these burgers. It was, like, very, like, toxic male gaze, but in the hottest, most positive way ever. And they haven't done one in a while. I don't even know that they were, like, still selling burgers or whatever they sell. And they've brought back the Classic commercial with, like, the girls in the bikini with Alex Earl. It's so brilliant. It's such a good get for her and for them. It's truly, honestly. Maybe a toasty lion scanned it.
A
I'll put it on the list, and then when we reflect back on it, we'll know whether or not because it's.
B
Such a sleigh and it really. Well, look, we're talking about Carl's Jr. I actually didn't know they were still in business.
A
Well, that's because they're not an east coast chain.
B
Chain. Yes, very true. But, like, neither is in and out, and I know that they're still open for business.
A
Of course you do.
B
Right.
A
That's different. It's different.
B
No, I've never seen anybody do a mukbang of Charles Carl's junior Charles. Do you know what I mean?
A
Yeah.
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Sorry. Back to the story at hand. I just wanted to keep you abreast on the drama.
A
I'm holding space for Braxton that, like, maybe you got the flu.
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I wouldn't be surprised.
A
I'm sure it's going around thousand percent.
B
Okay, back to the story at hand. I didn't realize that these two have, like, never been on a red carpet together. I love that. I don't know when they would, like, this is truly the only, like, last.
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NFL honors the sbs, I guess, whatever movie she's doing.
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Gorgeous.
A
She looks so gorgeous. And also, like. She, like a movie star, but also, like a girl, you know, just a girl. She's.
B
She's very regular. And I mean that in a very positive way, too. I think a lot of these celebrities, like, start out looking regular, and then they all end up kind of looking the same at one point. No, she really has maintained her individuality while also, like, growing into this beautiful woman ever since she, like, she's. She's launched on the scene when she was, like, 16. She looked gorgeous and, yes. Very normal.
A
Yeah. Like what you would wear to a friend's wedding. Yes. Just wearing her engagement ring, like, excited to be engaged and show everyone. And then he won MVP and they reached.
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So he was up for the award. He won. And he made this very well. Yes. When he got up, he gave her, like, a big smooch. And, like, she. She, like, pulled back, and then he went in for a second one. Like, he's obsessed with her. I'm obsessed. And then he also acknowledged her in his speech. He made a big speech, really spoke very highly of his parents, and they were there crying. Like, I was hysterically crying just Being like, you know, so much sacrifice, so much money, so much time, like, so much commitment. I love you guys so much. And my siblings. And then he's like. And last but not least, Haley. I think he's just said my fiance. He didn't even say her name. And then they cut to her and she. Her eyes like Billie Eilish when she lost the. Like, her eyes are twinkling with tears, but in a positive way. And she's just staring at him and he's like, I would not be here without you. I love you so much. Oh, that just reminded me one thing. Paige Craig said on Watch Happens Live. Sorry, I want to go back. He actually said something incredibly sweet, which was that, because. And he was like, what have you been doing? How have you been doing? What are you going to do with your life now? And he was like, listen, to Paige's credit, like, I'm such a better person now than I was three years ago. So there would have been a time where, like, if I got broken up with and I was heartbroken, I would have gone out drinking and, like, making bad decisions and staying out all night. And, like, you know, to Paige's credit, like, I'm handling it really well. He kind of, like, gave her a lot of credit for, like, the mature person, and I think that's really lovely. And I do think that's true. Like, a good relationship, even if it doesn't work out, like, will change you and make you more mature. I thought that was really sweet.
A
Yes. Piecing together a couple things, because in the preview for the rest of Southern Charm season, Austin and Craig, who have been fighting all season, they have an emotional conversation, I think, in the Bahamas, where it seems as though Craig is telling him that he was on the brink of becoming an alcoholic.
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And.
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And then he went to focus on, like, his business, and Paige and, like, Page helped him out of that. And that's why he resents Austin for, like, not being like, hey, buddy. Because it's like, yeah, trying not to be. I think he said, like, trying not to be an alcoholic is going to ruin my friendship with Austin. So that's why he's, like, big mad at Austin. And then I saw a clip of Carl Radke on Nick Viles podcast talking about Paige and Craig. And it's actually crazy that Carl said this. And I think it's a little, you know, not right that he said it, but he alluded to the fact that, like, Craig had. Was having some issues in his relationship with Paige, and Paige was really there for him and like a lot of ups and downs. Like, I feel like there was a underlying issue of like alcoholism in the early days of their relationship. So when he said that, like Carl said that. Carl didn't say that, but he was like, especially after seeing the preview, like, I feel like Carl and was alluding to that. Was alluding to that. Now I might be like, I might need the context reading into it. The next episode of Southern Charm and watch Carl's interview. But it seems like that was also a part of their relationship. Like her really, like rehabilitating him and helping him not go down like a dark path.
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Yeah.
A
And so him giving her credit on that on Watch Happens Live, like, to me was explanatory of that. But I thought it was like that Carl would say that because that's like a little bit like Kyle business when Kyle was like, well, you came to.
B
Work, you're doing cocaine at work. Yeah, yeah.
A
But throwing some space a little bit.
B
Yeah.
A
Just.
B
That's interesting. Sorry. Back to Josh and Haley, the two loves in my life. It was just really such a pargy moment. The NFL honors made a lot of waves. Like, Nikki Glazer was there. Snoop Dogg hosted. They were roasting everyone and Joe Bur Burrow, Bill Belichick and his daughter. Like, really so crazy.
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Did you see that? They caught the guys who robbed Joe Burrow's home.
B
You're kidding. Yes. Feel like so fabulous.
A
I feel like that never happens when we report on. Never celebrity burglaries. But it was like a gang of illegal immigrants and there's pictures of them, like posing with his like custom diamond necklaces.
B
Obsessed. Honestly. It's giving the bling ring.
A
Yeah. So.
B
Oh, my goodness. Well, that's that on that.
A
That's that on that. That must be nice for him. Maybe.
B
Yeah.
A
Stuff back to that never happens.
B
He like was a part of the roast. He didn't seem to be like taking the jokes. Like, he doesn't seem like he. I said this a couple of months ago. He kind of seems like Fabissa energy. And he was not into the jokes made about him on the roast. He basically. And they weren't even making fun of him. Snoop Dogg said like, oh, he bought a three million dollar Batmobile like this car. Joe Burrow and Snoop Dogg was like, that must be nice for the first time to like have defense. Like, seriously, not even a bad joke. His smile faded. He was actually mad. Like, oh my God. He actually gives me like the worst energy.
A
I don't think about him, but no, the Little.
B
The little that I see, I'm just like. I don't. I'm not dazzled by. But be on the face.
A
His outfit was, like, so terrible, Grammy.
B
So terrible. I'm so glad you brought up his outfit. Like, I actually really like when athletes try and step out of their box. And for the most part, like, athletes crush it. They have a lot of fun with fashion. Nobody wears, like, a boring suit. They always wear, like, something crazy or colorful or pattern. And I like it. It's not so serious. I don't know what the hell he was wearing. He looked so dumb.
A
I like when they wear a boring suit.
B
No, the athletes, like, they really have fun with it. And I feel like every week when they, like, walk down the tunnel to their games, it's like a little mini fashion show.
A
But no, but, like, seeing them on the red carpet, like, Josh Allen wore a boring suit. And, like, it's so cute.
B
Yeah, but Josh Allen, like, would wear a boring suit.
A
It's just cute.
B
Some of the guys, like, wood. Like the guy from Detroit, Jared Goff. Like, classic boring suit. But him and his wife looked part. I think she's pregnant. But, like, some people really get creative, and I like it. I think they do it well. Okay, Are you ready? Some of the wags could really step up their up. Not to be rude.
A
Oh, I didn't even see anybody. I was busy watching Southern Charm.
B
I was seeing just, like, some TJ Maxx sparkly dresses. Like, girl, your husband makes $100 million. Like, let's go. Yeah. It's also weird that they do it before the Super Bowl. So, like, Travis wasn't there. Patrick Mahomes wasn't there. Jalen Hurts wasn't there. Saquon Barkley wasn't there. Like, that's weird, right?
A
And those people, like, win a lot of awards. And then it's like a virtual acceptance speech.
B
Yeah. And it's like, it's for the best of the year, and the best of the year, like, are busy because they're playing the best. Right. Doing things that the best do.
A
Except Josh Allen is the MVP. Never seen 1000. He is MVP.
B
No, I really love him. He's so cute. And he's also, like, so regular looking. Like, we went to high school with him. Do you know what I mean?
A
Totally. Are you ready for our third story? I don't know if I have the energy for this one, but I'm gonna do my best.
B
Do you want me to read it?
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Chapel Roan is challenging a writer who slammed her Grammy speech. To match $25,000 donation for struggling musicians. So following Chapel Roan's Grammy speech about how record labels should provide health care for the artist, which seemed to.
B
And a livable. And a livable wage.
A
And a livable wage seemed to make sense on its face.
B
Yeah.
A
There is a writer who wrote a piece for Hollywood, Hollywood Reporter.
B
He's a former music executive, so he is obviously, like, on the side of the labels.
A
Yeah, his name is Jeff. Jeff Rabhan. I don't know Jeff.
B
And he basically was like, I commend her. It's very admirable, very noble. But, like, she has no idea what she's talking about. And she claims to be, like, this big. Like, just being. Like, it would never be feasible that a label could pay all their artists a livable wage. That's what advances are for. Like, that's how this industry was built. And two, she's out here marketing herself as, like, you know, an outsider. She's not like, this music industry. She's, you know, noble and a socialist, but, you know, she's going to the Grammys, and she's a part of the machine now. So, like, she acts like she's holier than thou, but she's a part of thou. Yeah, she read her to filth.
A
He read her to filth and explained a lot of the ins and outs of the industry and why, like, the record labels have seriously no obligation to give people insurance, and you wouldn't even want them to do that, to be, like, micromanaging these aspects of their artist lives. And he also said, like, while her overall cause is maybe noble to her, like, this isn't the way that things get done. Like, in a. Like, that's not how, like, actual change is made. And, like, it's better. Like, he was sketch giving some other ideas for things that she could do with her fellow artists to help uplift artists who are not in that room. But, yeah, really chewed her up and spat her out. No.
B
And the. And the article, like, was making waves. Halsey read it. And, you know, Halsey's, like, a longtime advocate for, like, how the music industry is so terrible. And she wrote this scathing thing on her Instagram stories to the guy, Jeff, just being like, he.
A
She chewed him up.
B
Everyone's chewing each other up. And we said, what? Who is Chapel gonna chew?
A
So she then challenged the writer who slammed her Grammy speech to match her $25,000 donation for struggling musicians. So.
B
So honestly, kind of a slave. A response like, what can you say to that?
A
Yeah, does he have $25,000. This guy.
B
He's a former music executive. I think he does.
A
Okay, so then the two of them have raised $50,000, and that's gonna give.
B
Health care to all the struggling artists. Yeah, no, it's definitely. It's definitely a start. Let's say that. I don't know another way that she could have responded that I think would have, because she really detonated the whole thing. It was like kind of this explosive. Will she win, Halsey? And then she was just like, okay, you say, like, this isn't the right way. Fine, I'll put my money where my math is. Here's 25 grand. You give me some, too, because you're obviously so passionate about it. You sat down to write an article. So now I don't think, you know, in the grand scheme of things, is 50 grand gonna change your music industry? No, but I think from, like, a PR perspective, it was actually a very good response by her.
A
I think that. And what he was saying, it's like, so Halsey should donate, too. And a lot of the bigger artists who are in that room, like, who they said, like artists labels, like, invest all this money in artists, and it's only 15 that wind up paying, like, for everyone else. Like, most of them are a flop. And those people.
B
That's a lot of Entertainment. That's the TV industry, too. 10 of 90 of TV shows lose money, but the 10 that make it cover the 90.
A
Right. So he was saying that she should call on her fellow artists who are also of means. So I know she called out him, but maybe she can team up with some others who are passionate.
B
I just feel like Chapel is built for this. Like, she knew when she was making that speech, and this is just, like, who she is. Like, she's not gonna. Like, she's. She's. What's the word I'm looking for? Not a pot stirrer.
A
Like, she. She was a lightning.
B
Yes. Oh, my God. Thank you. That's exactly what I was looking for. She's lightning rod, and she's looking to shake things up. And that's not without criticism, and it's not without pushback. So I thought she handled this quite well. Her first big squabble, you know.
A
Yeah. I'm going to admit I don't know, like, a lot about what care in the music industry.
B
I don't know what's right and what's wrong.
A
Like, not at all. Like, I'm not taking a side of who should be doing what. But I have seen her, like, speak out on things that she does know nothing about and speak with such conviction. Conviction. So I'm going to just kind of go off of that and say, like, this girl has no idea what she's talking about. Even though she thinks that she is, like, noble and being good, she does.
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Have a very long history of, like, actually making up in. In a very condescending way about, like, geopolitical issues here in this country abroad. People have really gotten upset with her about a lot of things that she said. It's people on both sides. Like, she really pissed off a lot of people during the election. So, yes, she does. That's kind of like her thing, which is kind of my thing too. I like, like, talk about talking with conviction.
A
You are literally the polar opposite.
B
No, I mean, like, I like, when I'm talking about random things, I'm always like, no, for sure. And I have no idea what I'm talking about, you know?
A
Yeah, yeah. So on this issue, like, I don't know. I don't know she's right or wrong. I'm just looking at her track record where, like, she thinks that she's the good guy and she's got it all wrong.
B
Yeah, it's definitely a good point that you bring up. If history is in any indicator.
A
Right. It's like a chap. Track record.
B
Chap.
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Check the chapel tracker.
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Frightening.
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Are you ready for our next story?
B
What? Number four?
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I don't think you're ready for this jelly.
B
No, I am, actually.
A
Oh, okay. Ugly Betty is getting a Re Watch podcast starring Michael and Amanda.
B
Oh. Oh, oh, okay. Well. Oh, I thought you were gonna say it's getting like, a reboot, a reunion, which is exciting. And then, like, we got a Re Watch podcast. Like, that sentence just sort of went downhill after the word re. Yeah, okay. Like, I'm not. I.
A
Mark the tournament. Sorry. Mark is Michael Yuri. Amanda is Becky Newton, and they are starting an Ugly Betty Rewatch podcast and they will be the hosts.
B
If there were two castmates who could do it, it would literally only be them. But I don't even want Betty.
A
They have them too, in their characters where they're just. They will chewing everyone up and spitting them out.
B
That guy who plays Mark does not get enough roles. He was in younger too. He was like the sassy book agent. He was excellent. He does not get enough gigs, so I'm glad that he's, like, reprising an old role. I'm personally not the target demo for Rewatch podcasts. Like, I just.
A
Sounds like a lot of work.
B
Yeah. I don't know. Even, like, Desperate Housewives, like, if. Which is, like, my show of the moment right now. If, like, Bri and Gabby did, like, I still wouldn't watch it. Do you know what I mean?
A
Yeah. I want to live in the fantasy. Like, I don't want to remember that this is fake. I know, but Vanessa Williams posted that she is available to go on the podcast.
B
Oh, wait. Okay. If Vanessa William goes on, I'll watch. I can't wait till I get to the part in Desperate Housewives where Vanessa Williams joins the. The cast as a full. She gets an apple, too.
A
Yeah.
B
That's the best part, Renee, Because Ben and I were talking about. We were like, when does the show get bad? Like, all good shows get bad. And I'm like, I don't think it does because, like, at the end, they get Renee, who was Vanessa Williams. She's the best part.
A
Yeah. I think other people's storylines just get bad.
B
Like, fizzle. Yeah.
A
Yeah.
B
So, like, it's a cute concept, and if they're gonna do it, like, great. Give it to Mark and Amanda. But I'm just so not into Rewatch podcasts. But people seem to be. Even though, like, what's the most popular one?
A
Office Ladies.
B
It's literally, I don't think a Rewatch podcast anymore. I think it's just Jenna and Angela's.
A
Podcast because it was such a successful re Watch podcast. And here's my question about re Watch podcasts. Do you have to also, like, re watch the episode? It's probably better if you watch the episode that they're recapping.
B
So let me tell you, because I did the Glee.
A
You did the Glee one.
B
The first time I did it, that never made air because Naya Rivera died, like, the week before, and they just, like, tabled the podcast. They had given me an episode to watch, and we. We recapped to that episode. This time around, they were just, like, talking to a super fan about Glee in general. So they've maybe shifted their model a little bit. I don't know what other Rewatch podcasts do. I think they all kind of start with the watch one episode and recap, because it's like, an easy format, and either they finish the episodes and keep going, or. Or they just think it's better to have on, like, you know, super fans and old castmates, and it's just, like, fizzles.
A
Yeah. I think doing it episode by episode, like, makes it good so that you don't run out of things to talk about. But it's just a lot of homework for, like, the people participating, correct? Correct.
B
I watched that episode of Glee for nothing.
A
Right. Are you ready for our fifth and final story that will lead into our Southern charm recap?
B
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Yes, it is.
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The turt.
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Our fifth and final story. Southern charm star Madison Lacroix is pregnant with her second child, her first with her husband Brett Randall. So Madison posted yesterday after we wrapped the toast that she is pregnant. So she already has one son, Hudson, who we all know from the show. And now her and her husband Brett are expecting, which we knew that she wanted to have more kids, but then he has been having some health issues over the past year, so they kind of tabled everything. So then to see this now was just so exciting for the Madison stands of, of which I know it's huge.
B
But it was also huge for the clear blue stands because she did one of my favorite things and she did a clear blue ad for her announcement, which we all know I feel like we talk about all the Time is like a very high paying gig and the last one to do it was Lindsay Hubbard. So did you hear the rumor that Lindsay Hubbard and her man broke up? No. Yeah, it's like starting to form on the Internet. It's completely unconfirmed, but, like, people are talking about it.
A
Oh, I hope that's not true.
B
Me too. Sorry. Back to happier days. So she did a clear blue ad, which I just loved. I'm. I'm. I'm very intrigued by the clear blue of it all.
A
Yeah. And the picture is so pargy.
B
So pargy. Her man is so cute. She's literally the most gorgeous girl.
A
She's the most gorgeous girl. It's insane watching her on TV. Like every outfit, every look, like, she's always just 10 out of 10. And she's just such a great personality. She's such a. A star.
B
Agreed. I love her. I'm so happy for her. And I didn't know that her man was having all those health issues until you recapped it on the show, I think last week or the week before. And that they were trying to conceive. So, like, to know that, like, this is how it ends for them is just parch.
A
It's so beautiful. So I'll just do a little Southern charm recap. Because last night's episode was so funny. Of course, like, the Craig and Paige conversation was a highlight, but then some other things are going down. Like Shep and his bohemian girlfriend and her ghosting him. But next week they are going to the Bahamas to visit her.
B
Oh, my God.
A
Like, they're taking their cash trip there. And I think it, like, all crumbled based on the previews. Like, she's like, he's like, we're in love. And she's like, we're. We weren't in love. And I had told you that Whitney had matched with her on Raya.
B
Yes.
A
And Patricia told Madison she's just like a thirst monster. Yeah. Especially for Southern charm. And then last night, Patricia held her gentleman's dinner and it was like Napoleon Bonaparte themed. And the food was Italian and looked so good.
B
Oh, so you, you love Patricia?
A
No, I love Patricia now. Like, her home is a museum. I can't believe I was sleeping on her. It's so funny every time she had.
B
Did you see her on Watch Happens Live saying she sold her house to Whitney? She doesn't. She doesn't live there anymore.
A
Well, she had said a few weeks ago on the show that she had transferred the house to Whitney that.
B
So she said on watch Rabbins live because. And he was like, would you sell it to him for a dollar? And she was like, no, no, I sold it to him for like a fair market price. She said it's more so part of her estate planning to like, pass it.
A
Down and like taxes to.
B
But she also doesn't want to live there anymore. She does not want to, like, be responsible for. It's a big house, the gardens, the staff and everything. So it's like Whitney's problem now.
A
Yeah. And like, also, like, the moldings, the art, the. Everything is antique. Like, it's. You have to take care of it. Like a museum. Every time she has one of her dinners and they sit on her, like, 19th century chairs. Like, it. One always breaks. And usually. It's funny, last night it was Whitney. Whitney was like, jet lagged, I guess, and drunk. And he was being so crazy because Shep was saying, like, why doesn't Sierra Sienna, like, why she goes, see me? Why doesn't she like me? And Whitney's like, belligerent. He's like, you're not rich enough. You're not famous enough. And it was just like, no. But it was just so crazy, I guess, like, because he.
B
But it's probably true. Not a slight to Shep, but just a slight more to this girl who clearly has, like, high aspirations for herself.
A
Right. I don't think anyone's ever called Shep not rich enough.
B
Right.
A
So that was probably a shock. And like, he's obviously very wealthy, so she just probably wants more for her life. But it was really, really funny. The whole dinner party was really great. And then what else is new with the gang?
B
Molly.
A
Molly, my girl, she did a modeling shoot. She's such a good model because she was, like, posing in the pool. It looked like, seriously so unpleasant. And then they showed the shots, like the drone shots and the photographer shots. And like, she just has a face for the camera. Like, she looked amazing. They also showed in the previews for the rest of the season that she goes into Kiss Shep.
B
Oh, my God. By the way, I'm like, I'm following Southern charm, like, via you. And really the only thing I care about is Shep and this girl getting together. Sometimes, like, you don't even realize, like, what you're looking for is right in front of you.
A
It's so true. But I don't know if he'll be, like, open to it because, like, he's so hung up on Sienna because I guess she's the only girl who, like, wasn't buying what he was selling.
B
Mm.
A
Taylor wasn't in the episode. Sally wasn't in the episode. I didn't particularly miss them in that storyline because now, like, we're with the OGs. Craig, they @ dinner, at Patricia's dinner, they were literally just like roasting everyone. They were talking to Craig about his relationship with Paige and everyone just being like, it's been two and a half years, like, when are you gonna propose? And it's like, that's rich coming from this group. Austin's in a long term relationship.
B
None of them don't even have girlfriends.
A
None of them have girlfriends. They're always like, in long term. Like, how long did Shep date Taylor for? And didn't proposed to her.
B
Excuse me. Austin was in a long term relationship with Madison. He cheated on her. Like, please.
A
Meanwhile, Patricia is like, in my day, if you met someone and you hit it off, you got married. Patricia's been married like six times. Like, right? No, no, seriously, you can't tell me nothing about Patricia. But it's just like a room full of people that shouldn't be. Craig shouldn't be listening to him. And I don't even think that he is. And at a certain point he's like, yeah, we're looking at rings just to get them to shut up.
B
Shut up. Yeah, but I'm sure they were.
A
No. And in the previews he says, like, he had bought a ring, right?
B
Yeah, right. And he alluded to that on Watch It Happens Live. He's like, andy, I don't wanna. But you know that like, we were talking about like weddings and stuff. And he said, I don't want to spoil it, but.
A
Yeah.
B
So he must talk about it more.
A
Yeah. Yeah. So it's been really a great, great season. And it's just crazy that all of this happened in the spring. And that conversation between Paige and Craig where they're clearly like, on different pages was six months ago. So everything's sort of just been downhill. Downhill. Yeah.
B
Well, thank you for the Southern charm recap. Let's finish out the week with Queenie and Weenie. My absolute favorite part of the week where Jackie and I like to give out an award. It's a great way to sum up the week. Put a little bow on it. And we like to nominate two people for Queenie of the Week and Weenie of the Week. And they're pretty self explanatory titles. You know, somebody who acted like a queenie this week and somebody who acted like a weenie this week. It's not that serious. It's a seven day title. You can be queenie one week, we need the next, even though it's yet to happen. Okay, Your queenie.
A
My Queenie of the week is Michael Buckner. Michael Buckner has been such a cornerstone of our week. And him a ray of light. Him and his family hearing the episode, reaching out. We gotta get the shoot on the books. Like, it's just been a reminder of.
B
Why we do what we do a thousand percent. I couldn't agree more. Michael Buckner was also my queenie, but I wanted you to have your queenie moment. And I also wanted to give an honorable mention to Onija Andrew Robinson, the American woman in Pakistan. She is my queenie of the week. And for future reference, if anybody's just going to ask me a question I don't want to answer, I'm just going to let them know that telling you my business is against my religion, because that's what she said and she's 100 valid.
A
That is so funny. Who do you have for weenie?
B
My weenie of my week goes to every single reporter down in New Orleans.
A
Oh, that's good.
B
Asking Travis Kelsey inappropriate questions. They have gotten worse. I've seen so many. He is seriously withering away in front of these people, like he's just going to disappear. And I saw another NFL player on his team talking about, I think it's that guy, you know, the girl who Taylor loves, Shanni Chani. I think it's her husband. He was asked, like, do. What do you think about how many reporters? I guess each individual player has like their own little podium and reporters can choose to go. And I guess so many people go to Travis's. And he was like, that's the Taylor Swift effect. And so you see, like, I saw like a bird's eye perspective of how many people go to Travis's podium, and it's seriously absurd. And the fact that people work so hard to get there and then that's the question that they ask. Absolutely disgraceful.
A
I love that weenie and my weenie will be piggybacking and.
B
Sorry, wait. Just to connect my queenie and my weenie, Travis needs to start saying, telling you my business is against my religion. That's what he needs to say.
A
But it's not like he has a podcast. You can't say that if you have a podcast.
B
I don't know. I feel like Onision is about to start a podcast. She launched a bitcoin.
A
My weenie is related to your weenie. Because my weenie will Be the AP reporters who snubbed.
B
Oh, that's a really good one. Not the Grammys being this week. Yeah. Oh, wow. Oh, by the way, I want to change mine. No, I think, like, what about the state of journalism?
A
I think the overarching message is the weenies in journalism.
B
Yeah, I forgot about those two from the ap. I hate them.
A
It was really the one, like, the other one's going down. I know, but there was.
B
It's true. It was curly hair on the left.
A
Yeah. There was one that was like, chapel. Sorry, baby.
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And she was one who had to apologize at the end of the stream.
A
Yeah. The other girl is just like. Her face is associated, but she's guilty by association. But it was mostly one girl.
B
I'm gonna let you go, Jax. Get back in bed. Thank you for showing up and being. And holding space. We truly appreciate you. Thank you to the Toasters for a fab week. Even though you keep making fun of our Wayne's Coding, which is actually the proper term for the frames behind us. I know you guys obviously don't understand, like, elevated taste, but they're probably so.
A
Happy today because they didn't have to see them.
B
So true. It's a dream for the frame haters.
A
The Wayne Scotting haters.
B
Right. Wayne's coding. I literally thanks.
A
God.
B
I actually. I don't know. Thank you so much for listening to the Toast of Millennium running show. We deliver the fastest stories you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So if you're watching us on YouTube, please don't forget to subscribe because video thumbs up. We're also available podcasts in our podcast. Anybody? Spotify and Switcher Public Radio, Ira Castbox, all the places. Web visiting podcast. Wickedly talented we are.
A
Love ya. Bye.
The Toast - Episode: "Jax Takes a Back Seat" | February 7, 2025
Hosted by Dear Media
The episode kicks off with a lighthearted yet heartfelt interaction as one host, Claudia Oshry (B), welcomes listeners while managing a challenging day due to illness. Jackie Oshry (A) humorously laments her condition, saying, “[00:30] A: Hey, turd. I've been better. I think this is the sickest I've ever podcast...” Their camaraderie sets a relatable tone, addressing listeners with warmth and authenticity.
A significant portion of the episode delves deep into the highly publicized breakup between Craig Conover and Paige McCullough from Southern Charm. The hosts analyze Craig’s recent appearance on Watch What Happens Live, where he discusses the end of his relationship with Paige.
Craig’s Denial and Public Perception: Claudia highlights Craig’s emotional state post-breakup, noting his “denial and shock” ([03:31] B) and the backlash he faces online for seemingly pretending the relationship was still intact shortly after the split. Jackie adds, “[17:26] A: I didn't think that was weird either from the way that he told the series of events,” illustrating their understanding of Craig’s predicament.
Impact of Rumors and Social Media: They discuss the detrimental effects of internet rumors, especially allegations of Paige cheating, and Craig’s reluctance to defend her publicly. Claudia asserts, “[20:07] B: Baseless rumors, making shit up a thousand percent,” emphasizing the unfair scrutiny both parties endure.
Mutual Respect Despite the Split: Despite the breakup’s turmoil, both hosts express empathy towards both Craig and Paige, with Jackie stating, “[22:09] A: Yeah. For me, there's not a bad guy in this story. It's like, two people who I. Stan and I once shipped, and then, like, they broke up in a very amicable way.”
Transitioning from reality TV drama, the hosts shift focus to last night's NFL Honors event, sharing their observations and reactions.
Haley Steinfeld & Josh Allen’s Red Carpet Debut: Jackie and Claudia celebrate the debut of Haley Steinfeld alongside NFL quarterback Josh Allen at the event. Jackie remarks on Josh’s genuine display of affection, “[25:39] A: She did a clear blue ad, which I just loved. I'm. I'm. I'm very intrigued by the clear blue of it all.”
Dave Portnoy and Braxton Barrios Controversy: They briefly touch upon the tension surrounding Dave Portnoy’s interactions with Braxton Barrios, highlighting issues within the sports and media landscape. Claudia comments, “[25:25] B: Oh, I want to talk about Haley and Josh, but I do want to fill you in…”
Joe Burrow’s Unfortunate Incident: The episode mentions the bizarre occurrence of Joe Burrow’s home being robbed, with burglars flaunting his custom diamond necklaces, sparking jokes about “bling rings” ([31:59] B).
A compelling segment focuses on Chapel Roan’s bold statement at the Grammys, advocating for record labels to provide healthcare and livable wages for artists.
Chapel’s Challenge and Jeff Rabhan’s Response: Chapel takes on Jeff Rabhan, a former music executive, by challenging him to match her $25,000 donation to support struggling musicians. Jeff responds critically, questioning the feasibility and approach of Chapel’s proposal. Claudia summarizes, “[35:03] A: Yeah, his name is Jeff. Jeff Rabhan…”
Halsey’s Support for Chapel: The discussion highlights Halsey’s staunch support for Chapel, applauding her efforts to shed light on industry issues. Jackie shares, “[36:31] A: She chewed him up. Everyone's chewing each other up…”
Hosts’ Perspectives: While Jackie remains skeptical about Chapel’s understanding of the music industry, Claudia acknowledges the audacity and impact of her actions, stating, “[38:21] A: Like, she… she was a lightning rod…”
The hosts introduce an exciting development for fans of the classic show Ugly Betty—a Rewatch podcast hosted by Michael Radke and Amanda Newton.
Podcast Details and Hosts: Claudia enthusiastically notes, “[40:05] B: Oh. Oh, oh, okay. Well. Oh, oh, okay. Well…” while Jackie expresses mixed feelings about rewatch podcasts but remains supportive of the hosts’ involvement.
Appeal to Fans: Despite their reservations, they acknowledge the nostalgic value and potential insider insights the podcast could offer to long-time fans of the show.
The episode highlights joyful news from Southern Charm, as Madison Lacroix announces her second pregnancy with husband Brett Randall.
Announcement and Public Reaction: Claudia shares Madison’s heartfelt announcement via a Clearblue ad, celebrating her growing family despite Brett’s recent health challenges. Jackie adds, “[46:16] B: Agreed. I love her. I'm so happy for her…”
Madison’s Personal Journey: They commend Madison’s resilience and the couple’s ability to embrace new beginnings amidst personal trials, reinforcing the theme of growth and positivity despite adversity.
Towards the end of the episode, Jackie and Claudia introduce their weekly “Queenie and Weenie” awards, celebrating positive behaviors and calling out less favorable actions.
Queenie of the Week: Jackie nominates Michael Buckner and gives an honorable mention to Onija Andrew Robinson, praising their supportive and admirable actions.
Weenie of the Week: Claudia criticizes reporters from AP for asking inappropriate questions to NFL player Travis Kelce, labeling the behavior as disrespectful and intrusive.
As the episode wraps up, the hosts express gratitude towards their listeners, especially Jackie for her unwavering presence despite being ill. They encourage listeners to subscribe and engage with their content across various platforms.
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In "Jax Takes a Back Seat," Jackie and Claudia Oshry navigate a mix of personal challenges and high-profile entertainment news with their characteristic humor and insightful commentary. From dissecting celebrity breakups and public controversies to celebrating joyous life events and critiquing media behavior, the episode offers a comprehensive and engaging overview of the week's notable happenings. Their genuine interactions and thoughtful perspectives provide valuable context, making the episode both informative and relatable for listeners.