Jaxon Claud Osprey: Tuesday, May 26th, 2026

Summary

The Toast — Episode: "Jaxon Claud Osprey"

Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry
Date: Tuesday, May 26th, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this lively Tuesday episode after Memorial Day weekend, Jackie and Claudia Oshry dive into their classic “Fast Five” news stories, recap their holiday weekends, and get into reality TV, the latest Knick’s game frenzy, and a deep analysis of "Copper’s Bellbird and Strangers". The show is rich with their trademark blend of pop culture, book talk, personal anecdotes, and listener advice.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Post-Memorial Day Vibes & Gratitude

• The episode opens with the hosts reflecting on the meaning of Memorial Day, expressing heartfelt gratitude to the troops and their families.
• [01:00] Claudia: “We get so caught up in the bank holiday of it all...we forget what it’s really about.”
• Jackie and Claudia mention the viral military homecoming videos, with a spontaneous singalong to relevant country songs.

2. Catch-Up and Content Plate Cleared

• Both hosts caught up on personal and pop-cultural fronts during the long weekend:
  • Claudia finished "Copper’s Bellbird and Strangers" and "Remarkably Bright Creatures", reflecting on perfect reading timing with current book drama.
  • Discussion of Lena Dunham's unexpectedly lengthy new memoir.
  • Both are caught up on "Real Housewives of Rhode Island" (RHORI), promising a recap.

3. RHORI Recap & Reality TV Drama

• The "Real Housewives of Rhode Island" segment is a full breakdown:

  • [17:10] Major storyline about Rosie allegedly having had an affair with a married basketball coach, fueling questions about her wealth.
  • Kelsey’s accusations, aftershow producer clips, and finance murkiness dissected.
  • Jackie: “I thought Kelsey was being nosy, but now...her concerns are very valid.”
  • Dave Portnoy’s involvement and the local Providence drama referenced, confirming this is not just show gossip.

• The hosts critique the RHORI cast:

  • Jackie: “Now that I’ve started to get to know everyone, I think it’s the biggest group of losers...half are just genuinely uncool, half are unscrupulous, the other half are mean.”
  • The cast’s authenticity, affluence, and Bravo's shift to a "trashier," less aspirational model of housewives are discussed.

• Notable Quote:

  • [24:44] Jackie: “Sorry, this can be really mean. Everyone is poor and I like my Housewives affluent, sorry!”

4. Knicks Mania & Celebrity Courtside Sightings

• [04:29–13:01] The hosts relive their Knicks-filled weekend:

  • Jackie describes being a “model wife,” joining Ben at a sports bar for the playoff game.
  • The Knick’s historic playoff run sparks drama, excitement, and logistical talk about finals tickets pricing ($275K per courtside seat!).
  • Celeb game sightings: Kylie Jenner, Timothy Chalamet, Taylor Swift, Travis Kelce, and Spike Lee—all analyzed for their behavior, fashion, and impact on stadium culture.
  • Claudia: “Her t-shirt was seriously giving like one of Ben’s t-shirts from middle school." [09:01]
  • The hosts joke about Taylor Swift’s visible inebriation at the game and the bizarre social faux pas ("Thanks for coming!") as paparazzi follow her exit.

• [13:01] Launch into “Fast Five Stories.”

5. Book Deep Dive: ‘Copper’s Bellbird and Strangers’

• [27:35–40:45] A thorough right-out-of-book-club discussion:
  • The book’s narrative, central divorce story, and public fallout after a New Yorker investigation.
  • The financial intricacies—terrible prenup, trust funds, and settlements—are broken down in detail.
  • The hosts agree the book serves as a warning for women’s financial literacy and prenup cautionary tales.
  • Claudia: “Every woman needs to read this book. Everyone needs to realize what could happen.”
  • Discusses the planned Netflix adaptation, skepticism about Netflix’s book-to-film track record, and Gwyneth Paltrow starring.

6. Pop Culture Nuggets & AI Video Tangent

• [46:58] Jacob Elordi and Kendall Jenner’s “changed everything” Hawaii trip (mentioned derisively).
• The pair reacts to overlapping Kardashian dating rumors, and muse about how celebrity pairings become unexciting when they’re too obvious.
• [49:15] Euphoria’s latest shocker: Nate Jacobs (Jacob Elordi’s character) dies—speculation and detailed (and darkly humorous) theorizing.
• A tangent into AI-generated Instagram video series about anthropomorphic spoons, fruit, and soap opera-level drama among kitchenware and produce.

7. Dear Toasters: Listener Advice Segment

• [54:46–64:25] Three submissions get council:

  1. Candy-pushing Boss:

     • Annoyed listener's boss won't stop offering candy.
     • Jackie suggests, "Why don’t you just torture him with all your fun facts that you learned on the Weight Watchers app?" [56:37]

  2. Dog vs. Baby Name:

     • Listener loves the name Cleo, but it was also husband’s childhood dog.
     • Claudia: “If I named my son Theo, any version, he’d be the fifth Theo in his class.” [60:41]
     • They agree: Use the name, don’t say it’s "after" the dog.

  3. Boundaries with Drama Ex-Wife:

     • Step-parent struggles with fiancé's ex’s wild behavior impacting their kids.
     • Claudia: “If this is negatively impacting your children, you have to choose your children.” [62:18]
     • A nuanced discussion about boundaries, serious ultimatums, and community dynamics.

8. Lighthearted Reflections and Closing

• Hosts end with positivity about their own "Party Fall" and "Party Summer" philosophy—alternating years of good vibes ahead.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Housewives:
  “These are not older women, these are not wealthy women, it’s just like a random TV show of like honestly a lot of trashy people. I’m not liking it.” – Jackie, [24:38]

• On Taylor Swift:
  “...There are so many videos of Taylor at the game, but then also like walking out and Travis taking the picture with the kid—she was turned, you could tell, cocktail in her hand the whole time.” – Claudia, [09:17]

• On Book Drama:
  “Every woman needs to read this book. Everyone needs to realize what could happen. The best marriage, she didn’t marry someone who’s a risk, she said I married someone so safe she loved so much...there were no red flags, it was a good marriage.” – Claudia, [37:30]

• On the Knicks:
  “The Knicks are going to the NBA Finals which in my house is the biggest deal in the world.” – Jackie, [04:29]

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Important Timestamps

• 00:28: Tuesday after Memorial Day introductions, show agenda
• 01:14: Military appreciation, homecoming videos, Dixie Chicks vs. Cody Johnson
• 02:24: Weekend content binging: books, RHORI
• 04:29–12:59: Knicks game, ticket prices, celebrity sightings
• 17:10–27:35: Real Housewives of Rhode Island drama
• 27:35–40:45: ‘Copper’s Bellbird and Strangers’ book deep dive
• 46:58: Jacob Elordi & Kendall Jenner update, Kardashian relationship web
• 49:15: Euphoria death twist
• 54:46–64:25: Dear Toasters advice segment

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Tone & Language

• Friendly, sibling-style banter and rapid-fire humor
• Self-aware, often slightly irreverent pop culture takes
• Candid, unfiltered advice with a dose of sarcasm

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Summary Takeaway

This episode of The Toast delivers the perfect post-holiday blend: recaps on family and TV drama, deep dives into both pop and literary culture, authentic sisterly banter, and real-world listener advice, all wrapped up in Jackie and Claudia’s unique, swirly style.

Transcript

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good morning girlies it's the toast it's

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jackson claude and we're your host

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it's

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your favorite show the best five things

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you need to know we'll start your day off swirly it's the toast they sound amazing welcome back to the toast and happy tuesday that feels like a monday because it was a long weekend

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yes yeah no it's very exciting that today's tuesday it doesn't feel like a tuesday but then like when you think about it it's tuesday which means we're closer to friday it also means we're doing some deer toasters today which oh

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my god i was so not prepared that feels wrong and major shout out because a day like today we have so much to catch up on i took so many things off my content plate we might have pushed deer toasters to tomorrow but the dtq should be really shouting out to our sponsor weight watchers today's deer toasters is sponsored by weight watchers so we couldn't push it

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off till one no we couldn't we

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would have we would no i was like we would have so ttq to

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the wwty ty well happy tuesday after a long memorial day weekend we had such like a fun family filled weekend i just want to take a moment to thank our troops to those who

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have served amen we didn't do before

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the weekend but i saw so many like emotional reels of troops of course homecoming videos that to like travel and

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soldier bike for my life for the stars and stripes may freedom forever fly let it ring salute the ones who died the ones that gave their lives so we don't have to sacrifice all the things we love like our chicken fried cold beer on a friday there's so many good songs travel and soldier you know that song's actually by the dixie chicks but but cody johnson's like unofficial cover which he literally never released is like the go to song for

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military homecoming videos yeah so i was watching a bunch of those and just wanted to say thank you to our of course we forget military to military

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families we get so caught up in the bank holiday of it all you know in the barbecue taking day off work we forget what it's really about

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yeah so thank you for bringing that up and for those who have given their lives the ultimate sacrifice to our country for our freedom so that we can be swirly now i feel like

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the theme of my day slash episode is like i'm cleaning my plate like my plate is being cleaned i watched took so many things off my the

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theme is this is your plate yes

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actually thank you chat and bedor this is my plate and my plate is kind of like autozempic because it's getting smaller and smaller over the weekend i watched remarkably bright creatures and i have so many thoughts like literally terrible two i finished copper's bellbird and strangers and

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we have a story today about it so we will recap the book in the story because there's news about copper's

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bellbird and strangers and i just want to say like my timing couldn't have been better because now there's the book's been like lit for what six months i took forever to read it and now there's like drama around the book thank god i've read it i would have felt so left out yeah my copy of lena dunham's memoir arrived i do want to say it's really long and part of the appeal i haven't even started yet i just saw the thickness of it part of the appeal to me was like every time people were posting it online it just looked like a short little collection of essays no it's giving like memoirs it's like

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memoirs of alina it's also her second

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memoirs so you would think like how long could this one be you're only like thirty five yeah so so we'll see if i get into that but really proud of myself things that remain on my list oh and i caught up on rhode island and so did

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i so we'll talk about it in

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the stories yeah like do you know

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what i mean yeah if you're not

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watching on youtube like i just made a stank face that's how i feel

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about rory right now yeah i'm excited to talk about it though because we need to get to the bottom of things are you like feeling more team

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kelsey no actually i'm feeling team no one i think this is now that i've like started to get to know everyone i think it's the biggest group of losers half of them are just genuinely uncool half of them are so unscrupuled like i love joe ellen but she is too faced and the other half are genuinely mean like i think liz and kelsey are so mean clicks

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going to click click rosie by the way one thousand percent rosie is chronically

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online oh yeah because she said clicks going to click in last night's episode

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not even from the toast just because we're like a viral sound but like i keep seeing now like her videos on my instagram and stuff like she makes like you know yeah like influencer type reels her and ashley too but ashley's done that for years and she's a success and she's just like chronically online which is weird in a real housewife but i guess if we're like blending real housewives and slum like young women that this is what like bravo wants it's like for tick tocking housewives right it's not my favorite tiktoking housewives

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that's just a terrible sentence yeah they're not supposed to be they're supposed to be like reals reels mamas last night was a major night in my household i did fall asleep but i felt really good falling asleep because the knicks were up by like thirty and i just like laid down and i was planning on i watched the first two quarters and i usually fall asleep around the third quarter but this one i really fell asleep early it was nice i slept really good the knicks are going to the nba finals which like in my house is the biggest deal in the world like i do really understand like why ben is so drama but so on saturday night was the last game i went to a bar yeah that's right like we had drinks at a bar like a sports bar and we like watched a game i was being so grab a slice like how chill is that what would you do like i watch i grabbed a beer with my i don't have a

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beer what'd you have kill soda like

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i had drinks with my wife at a sports bar and like i was with the other people because you know i feel like florida is like a lot of new york transplants so like everyone in the bar it might as well have been a nick's bar and i didn't go to a knicks bar i just went to like a bar and i was like with other people being like that was sick like you would have been proud of me i was so chill like so pick me so grab a slice and is that

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what i want for you yeah yeah

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you because like it really makes ben

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so yeah you're just trying to be like the model wife no and i'm

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seriously raising the bar like i was being so like and then i saw travis and taylor on like in live like they showed them on tv once we literally got they never showed them again like the bar went wild like as if the knicks had scored it was it was honestly one of the craziest moments of my life like seeing taylor on that screen you could have said someone's gonna pop out yeah i

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forgot that she was there like that all happened this weekend yeah it was

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the longest weekend yeah there were two knicks games so then last night was you know the fourth of the series the knicks were up three zero do you know that in nba history no team has ever come back from a three zero you know you have to win best of sevens you have to get to four ever come back from three zero and one instance in the

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championships are in all playoffs is that weird wrong i know that feels weird i know is ben okay no so

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obviously i fell asleep i didn't see until this morning that he released a

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statement my husband oh that that's giving my wife fell asleep and i'm putting out a statement but that's like it's

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giving my wife fell asleep i had nobody to talk about my feelings so i wrote them down on instagram so

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who are they playing against we don't

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know yet who's it between the thunder and the spurs oklahoma city or san

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antonio okay oklahoma city is closer though

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yeah ben's hoping for san antonio there are more direct flights he's so antonio so i woke up and i saw a statement it was just a crazy to be like laying next to somebody who released a statement about the knicks but like i do understand this is kind of like his taylor swift maybe even more yeah like ben said it was like the first thing he ever loved was the knicks he was being so drama last night and then when we were at the bar i was like do you think that like if they go to the finals or win the finals like you would cry and he goes i don't know what my body's capable of he's so drama he's so drama i'm really happy for him

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like yeah me too and the brunson boys was the chat on fire ben

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is always like you're always on your phone with the knicks game like you have to watch you have to watch i'm like you're always on your phone you and your little chat like they're so ever did you see that they're always so drama these refs these refs i can't but they're so excited i wonder if they'll take like a group

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trip to a game yeah someone needs to bring the brunson boys to a

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game yes if you're really looking for

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to activate in the finals in a meaningful way you have to bring the brunson boys well you know that two

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playoff tickets before the knicks were confirmed they do sell tickets before you even know who's going to be in the playoffs but two new yorkers i think they set a record it was like two hundred seventy five thousand dollars per ticket it's going to be insane is

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he going to go so ben is

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like definitely working on the budget like

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like but is there a way to go that's not too well you can

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i think they said today at ten am is when tickets go on sale face value it's literally the eras tour like good luck getting something face value and if you can get face value they are pricey but it's not like

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resale i guess he could always go in like would he ever go in like the two hundred i also ben

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says that it's going to be cheaper the games that are away like right of course so he's definitely going to travel and i support that okay we're working it out you know we're figuring it out it's really crazy oh do you see kylie was sitting in the

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second row yes well i heard that the owner of the cavaliers said if any of the season ticket holders on the floor sell their tickets to knicks fans they'll be banned oh i didn't hear that sit in the second row that's why travis and taylor sat in the first row well because he's their cavalier cavalier but all knicks fans no one could get floor seats yeah i

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saw spike lee also sitting in the second row oh that's a good tee i didn't hear that i don't know

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where i heard that well i did

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know that if you sit courtside at an away game you're not allowed to wear logos of the other team so i thought maybe like kylie and timothy wanted to rock out so they put their t shirts on in the second

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row yeah maybe but her t shirt was also giving like i bought this at the merch stand her t shirt

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was seriously giving like one of ben's

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t shirts from middle school no and she wore it with blue jeans like she was so regular she was except

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there was nothing regular about it she

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was being so funny well then with the black croc but she was being so funny last night all the jumping around and like taking pictures and she was getting in like random people's pictures

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i do think she was like a little tipsy and you know who is definitely drunk taylor there are so many videos of taylor like at the game but then also like walking out and travis taking the picture with the kid she was turned you could tell cocktail in her hand the whole time and

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she looked drunk i thought she looked drunk which i love but also it's like in one picture like if you close your if you're in the middle of a blink you look drunk like

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no i thought the videos like even when you saw that video of them walking like a little kid like everyone wants a picture with them but a little kid comes up to travis and taylor like stops travis and grabs him taylor doesn't mess around when it comes to kids she's like there's a kid go i could just tell the way

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she gave him a little shove she was drunk also liz posted a video of taylor walking out of the stadium i guess she's always used to people being there for her so she goes to someone thanks for coming you know

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i saw that too she was like bye everyone thanks for coming like it

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was amazing yeah it's like when you tell your waiter like enjoy can you

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tell your teacher i love you no

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when the waiter's like enjoy your food

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and you're like you you too totally

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she's definitely like kicking herself she was

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definitely drunk yeah which i love date night date night do you think she

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has a drinking problem yeah yeah i do does taylor swift have a drinking

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problem things we're covering on today's episode this is literally a sports podcast we're back to being so sporty which i'm

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excited for of course we are and

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i got to find out who's on the i think so victor webanyama you know that guy who punched britney spears yes he's like the seven i think he's seven eight he's like a pen says he's going to be like a six seven no seven eight you've been hanging out with the kids too much

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i've been hanging out with margo too much margot was at my house this week i miss margo satchel maloney i

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do have to find out on the other teams like who they end up playing what like the sort of pop culture implications are well the spurs have

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ben simmons no he's out of devin

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booker no are you sure no i'm

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not you know who love yeah the

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guy who punched i guess those are the pop culture implications the guy who

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britney spears sons yeah and i will

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say like a lot of my basketball knowledge is like from when i was in high school because like i was pretending to like basketball like to be cool to boys and i actually ended up like knowing a lot and learning a lot it's just a shame that

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danilo gallinari isn't here to see this

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you're telling me and like ben gallinari walked so jalen brunson could run it's

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true when ben released his statement about like all the great and he didn't

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include danilo that's because like he's threatened by danilo the danilo gallinari erasure absolutely

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and he to comment that all i could think was like i'm so happy

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that's a good comment the danilo gallinari eraser is disgusting so i know that like a celebrity implication to the san antonio spurs is like for a really long time their best player was tony parker who was married to eva longoria like during the height of his career like she used to go to games and stuff and then he cheated on her like disgusting disgusting but now she's married to a billionaire so she's can't root for the spurs no we can't

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root for the spurs i'm commenting on ben's pose before before you forget your good comment yeah like before i move

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on with my life erasure he'll crack up whenever i talk to ben about like nicks i literally bring up players from twenty twelve so like you're telling me tights and chandler's not going oh you know there's a player called mitchell

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i saw robinson like the team is

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so toast coded it is remember jalen brunson like put us on his instagram last year plus kylie of course no and then when taylor was there like it was genuinely too much for me yeah do you think she got some sort of clearance that like kylie wasn't going to be there or she doesn't

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care i don't think she's scared she's

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not scared also because she gets front

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row and like she has her man

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yeah yeah it's true once you have

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your man like i feel i don't feel like she hates kylie no kylie's just like collateral yeah so if she like ran into kylie i don't think it like i don't think she has like a dartboard with kylie's face on it like it has kim well i'm

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sure we'll talk about the nexus at stories did we just get it out

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of the way like we sort of did we sort of talked about it

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well i'm ready and we're going to

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be talking about it like all i'm transitioning all week long congratulations to the

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fast five stories that you need to

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know okay let's do it the best

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we're going to start with rory recap okay rory recap and now the basketball

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drama news oh yeah i'm not what's the context on the basketball drama okay

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so in the most recent episode of real housewives of rhode island kelsey accuses rosie of having slept with a married basketball coach who then paid her off so that she wouldn't talk about it

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and that's how she affords her house

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and that's how she has money because we don't know how she has money

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and i agree that there is questions especially now that i know what her husband does for a living like i have a lot of questions right i don't think a one time payoff from like a basketball coach unless it's like you know mike tibbedego or whatever the knicks coach's name is like is really going to sustain a whole lifestyle well

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i also need to know more about her house like what neighborhood like like you know what sort of neighborhood is what does a lot go for you know because she bought the smaller house and is building a bigger house so like there are different way different varying degrees of how much that could cost you know it could cost less than a million dollars he could have paid her a million dollars then you also

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sent me a clip this morning from the after show where one of the producers asks sort of clarify a little bit more about her finances and her husband's finances and then they also have clips of the other girls talking about things they know about her family his family and it very unclear yeah i

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wasn't really concerned i didn't find their house to be like so extravagant that i was like how are they paying for this i just assumed he has a a good job and she's working on the influencing thing you know and she's now going to be a housewife so they'll do well but like her videos that she was making of like going to local bakeries and stuff like was thirty views so i don't think that was like bringing in the money yet but then she gave an explanation of how they make their money and she like cited a lot of random and it was and she has clients like so all of a sudden i had concerns i did not have them

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before it's true and i really thought kelsey was being like nosy but now i feel like her claims are her concerns are very valid more than that

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did you see the most recent episode of tea by the sea no dave portnoy joined the conversation because he was like my girlfriend's watching this real real housewives of rhode island and they said that the girl had affair with a basketball coach he said and this brings me back to a couple of years ago when the coach of the basketball team for the uni university of providence providence university and they're a really good team they have a really strong basketball team all of a sudden left the team he went to go to another state and play somewhere else and at the time there were whispers that he had had an affair and that the wife was like we need we're going we're not staying around here with your mistress like we're leaving town and he moved to a different college team and so that would be the coach in

[A]

question so i had heard that like this affair is actually like the affair the coaches affair i don't know if it's with rosie of providence there is like people know this story i obviously

[B]

heard about it but people in the corner was very involved he sold t shirts oh yeah it was like a

[A]

big drama at the time yeah so i hadn't heard of it but it's not like out of nowhere i assume that they can't say the guy's name it's like slander or whatever but yeah this most recent episode for me i feel like i was so invested like whose side am i on and i just saw like really ugly sides of everyone that i really dislike everyone and once again like it was it was such a bad episode for everybody like the under the table thing was not funny it was such a bad episode for liz like i'm i don't even like alicia that much but that car scene was really painful she's really mean she's just mean and the thing is like they were like she's the leader she's like everyone wants to impress liz right like she's the rich one she's the og rhode island like every and she's not like a benevolent leader she's like a and i really don't like her and i think kelsey like is so desperate to crawl up her ass like she thinks like being mean to everyone is gonna get her that and so i just really don't like her but i don't like anyone i wanted to smack ashley like guys like why are we yelling it's like you're yelling

[B]

first of all you're making the biggest

[A]

scene you're making a bigger scene and second of all like you brought everyone here to your place of business like for this reason to make a spectacle for your place of business like so jared can be happy so they're just actually doing what you asked of them because if you actually cared you would

[B]

have disinvited kelsey yeah you wouldn't have invited the both of them right no her not being able to function because the girls were fighting and then she's like in the back crying to jared

[A]

i know and it's like i want to hate jared because he's really not a supportive husband and i just want to be clear i do hate jared but watching it's like your wife is crying like why don't you like rub

[B]

her shoulder like something no i'm like your wife's a big baby like you're in china i think like you're trying to run trivia night i think he

[A]

like can't stand her no i think

[B]

that he likes her no no i i actually think they have a nice relationship but like you know she has her handicaps as does he and i feel like you're telling me like he's very patient with like her and her emotions and whatnot and she's very patient with him in his dreams yeah oh

[A]

god not streams so like it was just a bad episode for everyone like and even though i think liz is nuts and she's obviously like a bad drunk because she's definitely a little drunk in the car and then i think

[B]

when they get i think she also like i think and i maybe this is why i give her grace like when she was sitting in the back row she was really unhappy like you could tell she was just like trying to figure out ways to get up front when she got in the back row she was shocked to tell she ended up there yeah and i can

[A]

remember what happens when you get in the car first when you're getting in a suburban turdy tip never get him

[B]

first like back row with a cheese board like my personal nightmare yeah the

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cheese board was really unnecessary and it was pissing me off they couldn't figure out what to do with it and

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then i guess i sort of tuned out the fight it was just a lot the fighting in the car so i don't i didn't realize how mean liz was getting but alicia is like a little bird and like if she wants to say she's homeless like alicia's

[A]

storyline is like really not cutting it for me like your poor decisions in your marriage and like not having any

[B]

they're not even married oh sorry in

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your exactly in your relationship and then like your family trauma sorry that's like season four fodder i'm just getting to know you and you're bringing nothing i

[B]

felt about joellen having this like lifelong

[A]

conversation yes but joellen is like a bone carrier too like she's getting the video of rula like yeah she's providing

[B]

the storyline when she had her mother apologize on the steps that was worth of trauma on tv on season you're giving this us in season one what if you don't get renewed and you just gave us all that but alicia

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gives nothing outside of that yeah at least joellen like tries but she is really two faced because she's right she was at the dinner saying you know her husband knew them growing up gary said so it's like she's hyping up liz and then really like being like a mediator it's like well you're not a mediator because you started this too so i understand why but i think that liz like definitely i don't think she's a drinking problem but people who get like that when they're drunk have a problem when they drink and they

[B]

shouldn't drink yeah i think it was more of like a motion sickness thing also do you see that like liz and dino and the drug yeah like i let me tell you something when dino enters the conversation i'm out you leave yeah like i don't care if dino was if dino's sitting in prison right now who is dino in this world yeah i don't give a shit

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we never got like a package on dino just like supposed to care about this ancillary character who we literally saw from the back like liz is a

[B]

random fishing friend i don't care i'm

[A]

just like starting like i was like obsessed with the show now i'm starting

[B]

to like hate everyone it's like not that's what i'm saying like it's something to watch and cool for that but it's not like amazing no and i'm

[A]

sorry like this can be really mean everyone is poor and like i like my housewives affluent sorry i like to be impressed and it's just insane that like this is the same show that once housed like leah black you know like truly when you look at the women of beverly hills and like their wealth and like the connection like but

[B]

like what i'll say is i just don't understand like the neighborhoods yet like like it seems as though like liz lives on the water she's like a very big house so i guess like she's of means like the other women it's like if that house is in an is in a you know a good neighborhood rich neighborhood then then that's a really expensive house if it's not then it's not an expensive house none

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of them are are super wealthy like

[B]

yeah really just it okay well i guess they're trying to be more like slammu then because it's like maybe we don't need the wealth maybe they focus too much on wealth it's hard no

[A]

but it's hard to cast wealthy people wealthy people don't need to be famous and a lot of times they don't

[B]

want to be but i also think like slammu is doing slammu like stick with what you do no and the

[A]

valley is like the bravo version of you know young mothers like women in their thirties like you have that why don't you focus on that housewives are supposed to be older women i'm sorry older women make good reality tv because they have like no self awareness these are not older women these are not wealthy women it's just like a random tv show of like honestly a lot of trashy people i'm not liking it

[B]

no there's a lot of trashiness going

[A]

on absolutely the outfits like everything yeah

[B]

and the behavior of course so when kelsey came in and slam pig it's like that's not really how i would react react to something so so insulting and degrading and it's why all of a sudden i thought we can't call women sluts and whores and slam pigs

[A]

i just want to say i never subscribe to that you're all no but

[B]

like no but on tv and on bravo like like woke nation you we

[A]

can call her a yeah i think that's like sort of what i don't think bravo ever really stopped they were always like accusing each other being a stripper melissa gorga like but it's like

[B]

it's just it's crazy like that's just nasty and also when they were i'm

[A]

glad they talked a lot about the word because it does sound like a slur like it's a crazy word yeah

[B]

and it's also the way like a nasty guy would talk about a woman

[A]

a woman somebody said that on the

[B]

episode yeah locker room talk and so it's really disgusting so if i were kelsey i would not want to highlight that i was called like an ugly

[A]

like i guess that's her way of saying like i'm not even close to this especially because a slam pig is considered unattractive like she's not so yeah it's like funny because it's not even close to the truth but if it was like a little bit like i

[B]

guess because she's also like saying it so much that i'm like really over it which is good like no it's actually so what i'm saying is that's not how i would go about it but i think she's actually like handling it in a way that's really like diffusing the situation you know it's a lot with the sash and the pigtails question mark why was she wearing pigtails oh was she i didn't like that and because like so much of my

[A]

love for her is her look is her look when she compromises her looks she compromises the entire situation i don't

[B]

even know if she was acting well or not in that situation because i was focused on the fact that the looks were not looking nobody won that

[A]

fight i think like any goodwill i had for rosie after that fight because she did eat her up like she was just like screaming you're a loser like i sounded just like her oh my god it wasn't a good fight like the under the table thing was

[B]

stupid and also you were right rosie like got i guess chewed up at the castle i didn't even notice that that was happening but she did and then she like went home and thought of all of her insults and then the next and then you see i watched in the previously on in that conversation with rich he was like if they come for you give them hell so she's like ready to give them hell nobody really came for her the is a joke like it was a joke it wasn't she didn't think she was the house but how could that not be how could that be anything other than a joke of course no

[A]

one it was a self deprecating joke which is a good way to go into a situation herself yeah so i

[B]

didn't think it was that funny but like she's making fun of herself she's trying to diffuse the situation and that's when you decide to unleash like everything that you worked on in your room in the mirror all the insults you were going to sling i'm not impressed i'm not impressed agreed so that's your rory recap yeah our next story copper's

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bell burden oh my god okay so i finished the book and let me just tell you what i thought about the book i really liked it short and sweet like she tells you what happens in the first chapter and then you like have to suffer through her family history which is interesting but like what what's happening to your house like that's what i want to know and yes it is a story that every woman should read because if it can happen to this insanely like generationally wealthy well educated woman it can literally happen to anyone so now i think a lot of the criticisms one which we'll talk about today is like she's so privileged but like the book was kind of inseparable in her acknowledgment of her privilege it's like okay we get it you're rich but like like you're still a person like she just kept having to caveat her wealth like her family wealth to the point where it was like okay we get it like do you not want us to feel bad for you and then also like the bird metaphors like i understood the point but like she really went a little too hard like every i skipped every paragraph when i saw the word osprey i'm like i'm out like it was

[B]

so me claudia osprey

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it was just such a heavy handed metaphor and like in the beginning i thought i got it yeah and by the end i was like okay we're like beating this

[B]

a little yeah but that's like you know that's what the literary world wants

[A]

to see yeah and i didn't know that it was a story born out of a modern love submission but i remember this modern love submission going so viral so when she was talking about it in the book i brief like i kind of knew what she was talking about she's an excellent writer definitely an interesting story and now a lot of people are debating you know the merits of her divorce and the new york new yorker or new york new yorker did like a big investigation because they went through her court documents obviously all these are like public filings what she had said in the book was that that her she's a wealthy woman who married like a middle class guy

[B]

with like a job with and he worked in finance so like with a

[A]

lot of earning potential right and they were married for you know a long marriage they had kids who were like well into their teenage years they were

[B]

probably married like twenty years if you

[A]

haven't read the book yet this is a spoiler he like woke up one day like at the very beginning of the pandemic the world shut down they go to their house in martha's vineyard he wakes up one day she finds out that he had an affair she's literally she literally got a call from the girl the lady's husband she's walking to tell him and he's like he tells her and he leaves and like literally she never sees him again maybe three or four times he wants to no custody he does not want to see the kids he wants no involvement in their life he wants out completely he never wants to see her again he acts like the sun is shining too like the whole time they never even fight like because he just is

[B]

not he just like disappears so the

[A]

book is like her dealing with like you know the morning of her marriage you know feeling so confused like literally

[B]

what was what in her relationship did she ever even yeah did she ever even know this person right and we just do this to her we learn

[A]

a lot about her history and his history he like grew up in a wealthy family that like lost their money so they were like fine but he obviously had this like innate drive to like get back to his restore his family's glory so he worked in finance and he eventually worked his way up to like a huge hedge fund she really had no idea how much money he was making because their financials were kind of weird they had separate financials but a joint bank account and every month they both contributed even though she stopped working she did not work she raised her three kids they contributed but she had a lot of family money so they both contributed to this bank

[B]

account but it's also tied up in trust it's not like she was just like you know walking around banging the

[A]

credit card so they would both contribute to this joint bank account and that would pay all the household bills so she really did not know how much money her husband was making and she said like she was like kind of blissfully unaware she really really trusted him he was like a real she married like a safe guy he wasn't like the hottest coolest he was just like a good smart really nice guy they met at a law firm she was a lawyer she quit her job and then she tells us about her family which is like you know she has connections to standard oil yeah on her

[B]

father's side she is a descendant of cornelius vanderbilt on her mother's side one of the founders of standard oil and her grandmother was the socialite baby haley

[A]

so there wasn't like unlimited money for her but she does say that like her stepmother and her mom helped her with like the kids tuition and they

[B]

had trust for her and she used money from her inheritance to buy their apartment in new york when they first got married and a house on martha's vineyard her family she took the money

[A]

out of her trust and then put it in a marital home thus making

[B]

it like marital property her family made her sign a prenup when she got married and her husband said that anything that is used to buy no he

[A]

basically said anything that we bring into the marriage is separate yeah but and sorry anything we make in the marriage everything separate like just everything separate but legally like any marital home is going to be fifty fifty so her lawyer was like i really do not advise this and she went against legal advice

[B]

what she did the prenup that she signed was worse than not having a prenup at all of course because if she hadn't had a prenup at all she would have been entitled to half of what he made during the marriage but what they signed was basically you keep all the money that you make i'm no longer working and i'm putting before he like made his millions they bought the apartment spent her family money which takes it from being inheritance money

[A]

to marital property inherited money isn't cannot be taken in a divorce it is

[B]

protected yeah so like if that money stayed in trusts he wouldn't have access to a prenup or no prenup but

[A]

because when they got millions of dollars in real estate in both of their names she put her husband's name on every deed even though he did not

[B]

contribute one dollar she literally gave him half of her trust because she drained her trusts to buy those homes while he got to keep every single penny that he made it was the world's

[A]

worst prenup and they had a really good marriage and she wasn't really worried and she said they always had plans to just like call the lawyer and have it voided and the one time they actually went to do it he was like oh let's just like not do that and she was like okay so they never really addressed it and then he literally like had a lobotomy woke up one day and decided he hate his family never wants to see his children or family ever again and the one last thing wait i wanted to say oh so in the book she's talking about how during the process of the filings she thinks she's gonna lose both of her houses and he's like really like being like the worst

[B]

because she can because he's owed fifty of each house even though when he left her he said you can keep

[A]

the apartment at the very end he just wanted to like make her no

[B]

no in the beginning oh yeah in the beginning he's like i'm leaving keep martha's vineyard keep the apartment i don't want anything from the kids like but i'm leaving goodbye so they go through all the court proceedings and filings and she's so like mad at him rightfully so that she files a petition she never tells us exactly what's in the petition but we she like alluded to the fact that it was pretty scathing and really enraged him and he was like well never mind i'm coming for half the house and half the apartment and you will lose both of those things and you don't get like half of my fortune right and the fortune

[A]

so she didn't really know like how much money he was making and then when everything came out in the divorce she found out like he was worth like almost a hundred million dollars he was working at a huge he was

[B]

a partner at a hedge fund yeah

[A]

like insane she had no idea how wealthy it was but he literally kept his own money and let's her and her family's dwindling inheritance continue to support

[B]

their life also he was so cardboard

[A]

oh yeah he was so he was

[B]

so cheap he wouldn't let them do anything like oh my god he was so cardboard with the finances so now

[A]

this new yorker article is like looking

[B]

at to the point of being controlling

[A]

yes yes but she like blamed it on his family trauma you know when they lost all their money obviously he's got a lot of trauma oh so

[B]

so in their divorce proceeding he's hanging over her head like you're going to lose the apartment and the house you'll have to move like you'll get half of what it's worth but then you have to buy somewhere else because you have to buy me out she can't afford she couldn't buy him out even though when he initially left he said like you're gonna take it and then at the end like right before they're about to go to trial he gives it he says you can keep both houses and but she like for months maybe even years like she thought she

[A]

was losing her homes so what this people like their big revelation is that they looked through the court documents and he also gave her a three million dollars settlement and so like she's not honest and she's privileged and like now i think that they feel like her whole story is invalidated cause she did leave that out and i just want to say like three million dollars is amazing like please give it to me but like the people that we're talking about like that's not a lot of money compared to his wealth if somebody you're married to you feel like you quit you put your whole life on hold so he can earn one hundred million dollars you really do deserve fifty and you get three like that's not a lot i don't know why she didn't include it in the book also

[B]

he's paying child support until the children are twenty two thanks you've never seen

[A]

your children like so her child her child support does amount to six hundred thousand dollars a year which like obviously is a lot of money but like he doesn't ever want to see his kids again so yeah thanks for the money they gotta go to school like

[B]

yeah no and it's like her family was paying for tuition and like their whole lives ticket things and he was just hoarding all of his money so

[A]

now like of course everything that's what

[B]

likeability is oh no so they're like they're casting like doubt you know she's not that sympathetic and the thing is i don't really care about the details like sure it's good to know that she had she wasn't like destitute yeah after the fact they also went cited the fact that she had like these huge trusts there's one in her name that's forty five million dollars right but it's like left for her to take care of her stepmom she doesn't have access to forty five million dollars that

[A]

doesn't even matter even if she did conceptually this is the law your inherited money does not marital so like great she has a lot of money she is still entitled not because of her dumb ass prenup but hypothetically she gave up her whole life to raise her family like she is entitled and also he got wealthy off of her back because his first job in finance was at like her brother or her uncle's company and i do think that's how he got so wealthy yeah so it's

[B]

just like no the naysayers like people

[A]

are getting so lost in the details when i feel like yes the bigger point is like look this is a woman who had access to the best lawyers to the best trust the best everything the best financial advisors and even she almost lost everything it hadn't been for his last minute mediation but it's

[B]

not like they didn't advise like she went against legal advice which is insane

[A]

to do she's like dumb yeah that has to be like that yeah we

[B]

have to talk about like the book itself but anyway so this new yorker article is just like you know saying oh she's all this moneyed and whatever and i guess she could have included that she wound up getting like spousal support and child support but it doesn't take away from like the message of the book which is like women need to be financially literate in their marriages understand what's going on don't like also don't go against legal advice yeah no

[A]

it's literally sha for rory don't give

[B]

away your inherited money to your husband while also ensuring that he doesn't have to give you a penny of his money absolutely like that's really the message but the more i like think about the book like because at first i'm like oh what a crazy story you know strangers then i'm like starting to think about it is like every woman needs to read this book everyone needs to like realize like what could happen

[A]

the best marriage she didn't marry someone who's like a risk she said i married someone so safe she loves so

[B]

much there was no red flags it was a good marriage yeah so like the fact that this could happen like like know that you know and also you know to have the world's worst prenup right know that but then like the more time i spent thinking about the book like i found her to be really frustrating yeah like i think she's like everyone's here now like this victim but it really bothers me that she like kept forcing her kids to like go over there he got an apartment like without even a room for

[A]

no he got he got a second bedroom and he turned it into an

[B]

office without a room for the twelve year old daughter and it's like if you don't want to see the kids like i'm not going to put my kids in that environment and i feel like so often when women like like get divorced and they don't want to it's like it's a tragedy that they're not going to have their kids one hundred of the time when what they wanted was a family all of the time so it's like the fact that he didn't really want to see them

[A]

like thanks right it could have been so much worse like you also then like he's fighting you for custody right

[B]

right that felt like such a blessing

[A]

yeah i mean it's it is admirable like when you when you get divorced like you never want your kids to think ill of your partner even if your partner did something really bad like but the kids figured it out no

[B]

it was at the beginning it was admirable like oh wow you're not going to keep them from him that's like nice because he's our dad but it's like wait why are you why are you forcing them into this environment where they're not wanted the wind up was

[A]

that like he barely sees the kids now and like she ran into him on the street and he was like hey like i do also think the underlying thing that wasn't being spoken was he sounded like he was also going through like a psychosis or something like but i do think the reaction to the book was like a lot of people who went through similar things like middle aged men wake up one day and i don't know if it is like a psychotic break or something but they wake up one day and they

[B]

just are different people yeah but she also had alluded to the fact that when he was in college like he was like i don't know around or whatever and he like one day just got serious about like college and life earning and life and like the fact that he could do such a reversal like that maybe should have been a warning to her that he's like capable of just like flipping you know like just being a different person but that was really the only red wine she had but even i wouldn't think that'd be like oh you were serious like right so i don't know i don't know what if it's just like men like not that i care about this guy but like i would i'm curious how he sees it like obviously this

[A]

is the ultimate revenge right like you get to tell your story which is like cathartic but it's beloved it's being turned into a movie it's oprah's wish list gwyneth paltrow's playing you and like you're the big loser it's like six

[B]

months on the new york times bestseller

[A]

list yeah and it's like and you're the villain in this story and like now everyone's going to get to watch your divorce unfold through her perspective it's like a nightmare the thing is i think he's genuinely mentally ill like i don't think he cares just because like his behavior yeah is that of a person going through a mental illness it

[B]

is it is i just like i would want to understand how he even like narrates this story to himself he

[A]

approved the modern love piece like i do think he's actually like in psychosis

[B]

for real maybe what approved that like

[A]

even if you like don't have anything to hide who wants your he's private guy who works in finance like who wants his out there nobody does yeah the worst most intimate parts of your marriage like yeah so it was a really good book i highly recommend it i'm glad i read it after a

[B]

hundred years yeah especially because like everyone's talking about it's going to be a movie on netflix starring gwyneth paltrow she's going to get her bag speaking of melbourne is going to get her bag

[A]

back oh yeah speaking of movies being turned books being turned into movies on netflix i do think like netflix is probably like we don't give them enough hate they're the worst at turning books into movies so i watch remarkably bright creatures and based on now i know the story like i see how the book was like really sweet like it's a sweet story the adaptation was horrible like seriously sally field should be ashamed

[B]

like her story razzie do you think

[A]

yes it's razzie material like her storied career on this actual lifetime movie my birthday buddy yeah your birthday buddy like

[B]

oh and the lamar odom's gonna be

[A]

so devastating the guy the main guy is that guy lewis pullman who dates

[B]

tiger finally i'm like now i love who that is lessons in chemistry he

[A]

was cute but like i could i i i now know what the book's about and ben was being so like the girl who read the book you know he was like they changed you yeah from his instagram stories about it

[B]

from his instagram story and he did

[A]

tell me what they changed and i will say the things that they decided to change were completely inconsequential and like who cares but ben's like new here so he was like i can't believe they changed he wasn't that cock and i was like okay but netflix is really bad they did luckiest girl live which like was really bad i'll never

[B]

admit that it was bad but it was it wasn't great yeah i'll never say it was bad prime is good

[A]

they do good tv shows hulu is great tell me lies like netflix is really bad their department like needs to be fired and like start over start from scratch i hope they don't ruin

[B]

strangers bell burden i think gwyneth will save it but sally field like did you say the nicole kidman one straight perfect strangers perfect couple perfect couple the

[A]

worst show ever like the best book ever netflix sucks yeah they need to do better and they get good titles yeah perfect couple was like one of the best selling books a couple years

[B]

ago yeah we love that book yeah are you ready for our next story

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what number three oh yeah sorry i

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gotta like but the next three like sort of like fade into each other

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dash k dot com thank you turdback you're welcome our next story jacob elordi and kendall jenner are enjoying an affectionate dinner date after their hawaii vacation changed

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everything oh did it not for me

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i'm so uninspired sources say the hawaii vacation changed everything for them in their

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relationship you're not saying that oh no

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no the sources are saying that they're not nothing's actually i wouldn't say a

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trip traveling with someone you know i

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wouldn't take every they also are in montecito having dinner yeah so that's like another trip sort of but i think she has a house there it's hard

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for me to care i don't know

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why no it's good think about kylie oh right it's good for kylie and timothy double dates i think the four of them should go to the knicks game together i feel like jacob and

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kendall feel more compatible with like kim and lewis to me because like it's such an obvious pairing right the most

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famous woman in the world didn't lewis date kendall or something lewis hamilton yeah

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the guy that's dating kim dated kendall

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there's like a like they were like spotted together once or something like in twenty sixteen like there's a couple of

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like weird overlaps like travis writing about yeah in his book and then like justin bieber they say like maybe dated a few of the sisters let's pretend that they didn't i feel like it's such an obvious pairing right like kim dating lewis kendall dating jacob elordi like they literally look like siblings i just find it so uninspiring i am excited for that's also kylie like i'm so on board with kylie and timothy but in the beginning i was like ew like who is this little shrimp like it just didn't but i like when people keep me on my toes like i like being confused and there's nothing confusing about this kendall and jamie no

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but like if they get serious like that that's she doesn't get serious like a lot who kendall really i feel

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like she's had a lot like long

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term but not serious because she'd be like married right or have a baby so i'm interested in the seriousness that they seem to be at they're together like every day i'm still waiting for

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jacob lord and joey king to get

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back together are you no no no i like this i do i i'm ready for her like i i feel like i need like like i'm ready for her to get serious yes it

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is crazy that she's the only one in her family who like hasn't settled down yeah never been engaged we'll see

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we'll see also this leads to our next story it flows nicely because the euphoria glad that i did the ad break first yeah that's why i said because like i wouldn't want to stop right now i wouldn't want to stop right now cuz jacob lord is also in the news because wait so this

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is spoiler alert this is a spoiler

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for you for you my favorite show to watch on instagram i actually haven't

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seen it in reals yet but me neither maybe it like it's taking a couple because i think happened on sunday

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so like it's taking a couple usually i see it monday morning but i've heard about the bank holiday that the euphoria creator the euphoria character who dies who dies spoiler alert you know everyone knows is nate jacobs who is jacob

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elordi's cast husband and based on what i had seen was like he was in some financial stress and i think he had maybe like taken money from a loan shark so i'm gonna guess like it was a loan shark that

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got him yeah so the loan sharks i guess in the last couple episodes they cut off his toe they cut off his fingers and i haven't seen that the loneliness sharks buried him alive in a coffin and then a rat got into the coffin and bit him

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okay that's good actually that's a better

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way to die and then he like

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yeah being buried alive like seriously i'd rather die any other way any other

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way well cassie and i think maddie were on their way to save him and they would have gotten like to him if he was just like laying there not having been bitten by a

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rattlesnake snake oh but i'd rather dive through a rattlesnake bite how did the snake get in the coffin well it's

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underground so it's just like but was

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it in the coffin or what i

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don't i didn't see this part i

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actually cannot think too hard about being buried alive like it sometimes i see those like ai stimulation videos where they're like this is what happens when you get buried alive like i i actually can't i cannot think of a worse

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fate yeah i've been watching like a lot of ai like series of course

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me as well strawberries like oh of

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course the strawberries i watched strawberries who

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are in gina is like coming for her husband the broccoli have you seen

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the one about the spoons the four spoon siblings no oh my god so there's two spoons that have babies they have four babies a diamond spoon like a gold spoon a ruby spoon and then one regular silver spoon and the three gem spoons are so mean to their brother and they grow up like bullying the regular spoon and the regular spoon goes to his parents like they're so mean to me so the mom like tries to fix it and then they are even worse to him but then all the spoons go to university and they're like the three gem spoons are like so excited we're gonna run this town but it's very much like twenty one jump street where actually the losers are cool and the cools are losers so silver spoon gets with this girl that gemspoons had their eye on but then they start to they say to the girl we'll start nasty rumors about you if you don't stop talking about silver spoon oh my god okay

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no the ones that i saw was like did you see the one where they're all fruit and like the fruits give birth to an orange and the orange is like no i'm an apple no i'm an apple and they like transition into an apple yeah who is

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making these like and sometimes i find myself watching this when i'm like i'm watching a video about spoons when like i have twenty emails to go answer

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when i have one hundred dirty spoons

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insane and i have like three kids

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yeah no it's insane i like fall you have to watch the orangina one she comes to the strawberry's husband who's a broccoli it's insane i started to

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watch this one about a maid who showed up to this wealthy woman's house and she just had a sinister look

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on her face it's funny how we've like not seen the same ones like none of these sound familiar there are so many i love the ai like

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fruit series yeah or this like fat guy who like marries like this girl and she's like using him and he like starts to get into shape and it's really beautiful but then it's like follow for part two i'm like okay i'm gonna go to my family now

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my human family that's fine funny but

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there was a ruby spoon he was so mean ruby no he wasn't no he wasn't you could tell he felt bad like he was a moral compass he's better than that are you ready for it for the final story alex earl says a recent run in with her ex left her in tears claudia

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chose this story yeah would you not

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have i didn't even see it until

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you chose it you know because they they actually did some investments together during their time so they're both investors in sit marks so sometimes they have to go to sit marg's event i forget

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it was this weekend needs to divest marks is hers absolutely it's like asia too but she made a tick tock

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like she was crying but she was like i saw braxton we're in really good terms i don't know why she

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was crying yes she didn't un get ready with me she said that she saw braxton they were taking pictures together and then someone was like alex get a solo shot and so she pushed him out of the way she said it was funny and fun and then it wasn't and then she spent the whole night being like where is like

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crying this is not the first time she's run into him and then like made an emotional tick tock about it and i feel like if you're doing that like twice like maybe you're still in love and should just get back

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together yeah and like he seems like so what moved on and adjusted and like i think that's a little psychopathic

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oh you think like it's bell burton's

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husband no it's just like obviously like you guys broke up cuz alex wanted to correct obviously so why are you not more heartbroken sometimes you you don't

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want to be with someone who doesn't want to be with you you know what i mean it's kind of curative to be broken up with i do think it's actually harder to be broken up and to be the breaker upper than to be broken up with i

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agree you don't have to make the

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hard decision it's out of your control there's nothing nothing you could have done and you might not regret it and

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you get to be the victim everybody feels sorry for you as opposed to like if you break up with someone who's going to feel sorry for you that was your choice but if you

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break up with someone like you run the risk of regretting it yeah you get broken up with you don't regret

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anything you didn't do no it's hard to make choices and big decisions absolutely easier to have them like made for

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you one hundred and even though it's hard in the moment like you do become better because of it so i would rather be broken up with a

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hundred times yeah and everybody feels bad

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for you i don't like love people

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feeling bad for me i'm not saying you want people to feel but the world wants to be like the victim everyone would rather be the victim that's

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true not us no never some of

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our not us we're oppressors we are

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oppressors big time but you know who we might feel bad for some of our submissions oh no so today's dear toasters is brought to you by weight watchers because they understand how important it is that we do weight watchers and they knew by sponsoring the segment we couldn't punt it off till tomorrow and we have some very exciting submissions sponsored by weight watchers so hey jackson claude i've been at my current job for about six months and i'm having an issue with my newborn boss he's always offering me candy hear me out he doesn't take no for an answer and it's boarding on harassment i'm trying to watch my weight and besides that it just feels annoying when i politely say no thank you he persists he insists to the point where it just makes me upset i told him in a joking way that he's got to stop but he still offers me junk food multiple times a day i know it'd be crazy to go to hr to complain but i need advice and validation for my two faves do i just continue to complain to my sister or should i find a new job am i wrong for being so bothered by this pick me and i promise i'll follow your advice and send you an

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update find a new job that's traumatic because he offers you candy just take it and throw it in the garbage

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it's just easy to find jobs like we're just quitting them because you're no but also like some what if you just were honest being like oh hey like i'm struggling with my weight can you off in like a more just

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be like oh i'm i'm not having candy right now like just yeah be

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honest different though between men and women like a man would never think like consistently offering food to a woman like is offensive he's like what do you mean i'm sharing whereas like i see like it's absolutely warfare and he needs

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to stop you have a little sweet treat in the office so you should

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indulge every now and then then just to be nice but why don't you just be honest being like show me your weight watchers abby listen i'm in the core plus program like can you not because that little snickers is more points than like a thing of ground

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turkey like kim there's people that are dying and your boss is offering you too much candy do you see this bat unless he's a predator jackie you

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should bring a bring a big vat of ground turkey because ground turkey zero points be like tim or whatever his name is like do you think they're going to eat that look at what

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i'm eating no or be like tim this whole vat is zero point this little stickers this five points points which one is going to be more filling and then i'll be like okay get

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out sorry i asked yeah why don't you just torture him with like all your fun facts that you learned on the weight watchers app and then maybe he'll leave you alone that is annoying like i feel like actually as a cooworker like you don't bring me enough

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sweet treats yeah okay i can work

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on it yeah just like a little

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note for you i was like going to make a par loaf actually i made one yesterday it flew you don't

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bring me any loaves like yeah i

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was making one this morning but i didn't have enough time to bake it well maybe tomorrow will be your day for a par loaf i wonder how many points i was going to say

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i'll have to scan it i wonder

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i feel like it's really not so

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bad i'll have to scan it stop the guesswork and start something that just works join the weight watchers core plus program for the ultimate weight loss to support and get better results go to weight watchers dot com toast to get a special offer for the toast listeners that's weight watchers dot com toast for a special offer and just to say thanks for the dtq you know yeah big thanks that that that i just want to say her final question do i just complain to my sister or should i find a new job like

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that's insane that's insane why would you

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find a new job also you could ask each other like move your desk like there's a million things you could do before you quit your job because

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there's too much candy although that is

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my favorite time of year like when i used to like intern at like like media companies like any corporate gig that i could get like during the holiday season halloween so many sweet treats people would bring in like baked baked

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goods that's like the best time of

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year it's also the best time to have a corporate job like if i ever have to go back to the corporate world like i will start my gig in october and by the new year i'm out so many days off

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is we just like came out of like the the stretch of like boring year like we're in the home stretch now because it's like par spring going into party summer par halloween christmas like

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yeah we're gonna have a party fall

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we're gonna have a party fall that's what i've been saying but we also are gonna have a party summer actually

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it was last year we also have a garchi party fall remember that was

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two falls ago so we're due for a gargi party one yeah because you

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know us we only have good years

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every other year so this is our

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year so we was twenty twenty six is a good year so far so good no but i mean like an r because we always go like was

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twenty i think twenty yeah cuz twenty twenty five was really like a year of growth we had two maternity leaves like we weren't popping off yeah it's true it's true i think we're going to pop off now we're enjoying the fruits of our labor i think we're going to pop off this year i

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love that all right our next year toasters hey swirlies please help i'm pregnant with my second child and my husband and i cannot agree on a girl name we already have a daughter we don't know the gender of this baby yet and we have a boy name locked in but girl names it's just a war zone zone the issue is that i'm loving the name cleo cleo obsessed can't shake it but the problem is that cleo was the name of my husband's childhood dog not just any dog but like the sole dog status he thinks naming a baby after a dog is insane i think it's adorable and meaningful i also have a cousin literally named after my uncle's childhood dog and no one in the family thinks it's weird so swirlies am i crazy is this a hard no turning would you ever consider naming a child after

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theo great question please help me before

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this baby we can help because we have this situation but the difference is so i love the name theo like i think when theo was alive i wished that i didn't use it because i would have named my child lo and behold theo died and i was free to use it now i just feel like the name's a little too trendy so i don't want to use it anymore but but would you say

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it wasn't would you name a child theo down the line absolutely first of

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all second of all but stop saying that you're naming it after the dog like if i had a child his name would be theo because his name is theo not named after i agree naming after a dog is weird but you can give the dog sorry you can give the baby the dog's name but it's not being named after the

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dog it's not two things are not

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related no it's i think it's weird to name a human after a dog

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no that's insane you're fine to name the dog cleo like i actually really name the baby cleo i don't know

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if you were looking for like a

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proof but he needs to grow up you know yeah you're still like crying

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over your childhood dog like you're a father father yeah you're a father you're

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gonna like forsake the right name for your daughter because like some dog that's

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like i would have also be giving you different advice if like i thought the name was really ugly but i happen to think cleo's such a cool

[B]

name and i agree theo is like completely analogous to this situation i would name a child theo you would name a child if we wanted to the the theodore for chevin of it all is not what's stopping us no and

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sometimes when like people in our family are pregnant the name theo like always comes up because we all do a lot of like classic older names and

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the dog is never the reason why we don't go with it no i

[A]

think that just like if i named my son theo any version like he would be like the fifth theo in his class everyone's like teddy theodore you know i just feel like it's too common now it's such a great name i was so ahead of my time don't you mind yeah because like yeah

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it's such a great name it's such

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a great name and there was actually a kid in my grade named theodore and like he was such a nice guy so i think of him fondly all right next up third and final hey swirlies i'm a forty one year old divorced mother of two my first marriage ended because of some pretty crazy domestic violence violence i was single for about four years before meeting my now fiance he too was divorced with three kids we got engaged last september his ex wife has always been drama but recently it's really kicked up the crazy showing up drunk at our house when it's her time with the kids to tell him that she loves him and wants him back she said horrible stuff about my daughter my daughter and his son are actually in the same class at school and it got back to us she says nasty things about me throughout our community she's just the worst anywho my fiance always says that he doesn't really want to set some boundaries with her because he thinks it'll only make her crazier because conflict and cause conflict for the kids but what about me and my kids and how she continues to affect us am i just being overdramatic and i need to let it go or do i need to put my foot down and demand some more oomph from if you will from my fiance thanks from a swirly in need of some sound advice what's so funny is that i feel like i chose a different one i've never read this one before and i like it

[B]

it's a good one i feel a little out of my depth this feels like grown up problems this is such

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a grown up problem but she said that like the mother in law is the if ex wife was talking shit about her own daughter and she said it got back to the daughter so

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here's what i'll say i agree with the husband a little bit that like you know you don't want to set her off any more than like she's crazy however if this is negative if your relationship is negatively impacting your children you have to choose your children oh

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wow you think she should break up

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with her fiance i think she should threaten it because maybe then he'll do something maybe like it is that serious like i'm sorry your children come first

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it is yeah by the way it is that serious one hundred percent but his children also come first so like he is he's putting his children before yours because he's choosing to keep the peace with the crazy ex wife they

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didn't they didn't show this in blended

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yeah no this is like seriously i do feel like i don't really know how to help you but it sounds like you never put up boundaries so like why don't you just try like

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with her yeah like i think you need to get serious with him about handling the situation it's tough like i

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never thought about living in the same community sending your kids to the same school like yeah that's really like incestuous

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yeah what do you think

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i think he's probably gay like that's just what i say when i don't know what to say by the way i would try like sometimes i know i know what why he says like if we get strict with her or whatever like he could make it worse and then take the kids like you know more time away from him like i get it but like i feel like it's worth trying like putting up some serious boundaries yeah because like crazy people who get away with being crazy like it just makes them crazier you're just really enabling her yeah so i can't imagine that like putting up some serious boundaries like can make it worse than continuing to enable her also like if he

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was once married to her like there's some love there no and it's like maybe she's not only crazy like maybe she's also like a person maybe she's hurt no and like maybe there's like some re like maybe maybe we need to like handle the situation but like the situation needs to be handled because your kids can't be like suffering yeah

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and i guess like a crazy drunk woman like storming into your house where your kids live like yeah at a

[B]

certain point it's not a good environment

[A]

it's at a certain point you actually you will have to do something so you should start now before it gets worse yeah nip it in the brain

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sorry jackie's right like i guess that's like that's no fun i know it's no fun but and i think even just like saying that to him might force his hand to like actually take

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it seriously yeah and i don't think you would be unreasonable and say saying like this is not an environment i want to continue for my kids to live in like i'll put up with it i'm an adult but like my kids don't deserve this yeah so maybe if he sees it through that lens throw the kids down throw the kids on the bus i love that and thank you to everybody who wrote into our weekly advice segment dear toasters gmail dot com if you wrote in and we read it on air and you want to provide us with an update like do that because it's rude not to it's not good manners thank you so much for listening to the toast of monday night morning show where you live the fastest phrase you need to know every monday on youtube so you're watching us on youtube please don't forget to subscribe give us video a thumbs up we're also podcast and our podcast and fabric tuned hope you guys have an amazing day we'll see you tomorrow love you bye