The Toast Podcast – Episode Summary

Podcast: The Toast by Dear Media
Episode: Jon and Alex with Alex and Jon: Wednesday, December 10th, 2025
Date: December 10, 2025
Hosts: Claudia Oshry (A), with guests Alex (B) & John (C)

Overview

This episode of The Toast features Claudia Oshry in conversation with dynamic content creator couple Alex and John as they reflect on marriage, parenthood, digital fame, and hard life lessons. Bouncing between sincerity and humor, the conversation covers everything from creative approaches to parenting online, handling loss and grief, boundaries on social media, to favorite pop culture obsessions. The chemistry is lively, open, and relatable—a warm exploration of modern life on (and off) the Internet.

Main Discussion Points & Insights

1. Meet Alex and John: Marriage & Digital Fame

• Claudia found Alex & John's content on TikTok, drawn in by their take on funny married life content (01:09–01:40).
• Married for 6 years, content creators since 2020, blending authentic glimpses of marriage, humor, and life’s milestones (01:14–01:33).
• Discussed their 'DINK' (Dual Income, No Kids) phase, acknowledging public misconceptions about declaring never to have children (02:44–03:08).

Notable quote:
_"Everyone thought that we always were, like, anti having kids. Never said that. We just leaned into dink content." – John (02:51)

2. Navigating Public Reactions & Parasocial Relationships

• Upon announcing pregnancy, Alex and John received strong—sometimes bizarre—reactions from fans who felt "betrayed."
• Claudia reflects on the peculiar intensity of audience emotional investment in creators' life choices (03:08–03:53).

Notable quote:
_"I can't think of one person on the Internet... that a decision in their life... would impact me to the point that I'm like, I need to comment on this..." – Alex (03:27)

3. Openness, Loss, and Healing through Humor

• Alex and John share candidly about miscarriage at 26 weeks and their decision to process grief both privately and with their audience (04:11–06:54).
• Broached use of dark humor and online content as a coping mechanism; they discuss the infamous DINK “resignation” comedy sketch that processed their loss (05:13–06:52).

Notable quote:
_"Behind the scenes, we were getting through it with dark humor... I was like, John, hear me out. What if we make this video? And he's like, yo, that's dark, Alex." – Alex (04:54, 05:47)

4. Timing and Readiness after Loss

• On deciding when to try again: time doesn’t make things easier—grief is a constant companion (07:09–09:06).
• Use of EMDR therapy to process trauma; pregnancy with daughter Lucy was both healing and anxiety-inducing.

Notable quote:
_"I thought that I would have wake up one day and be like, I am so healed... But... it's gonna be hard if you do this in a month, it's gonna be hard if you do this in two months..." – Alex (07:38)

5. Parenthood & Protecting Privacy Online

• Alex and John do not show their baby’s face online as a conscious, protective choice (10:01–12:29), innovatively representing her instead via costume (bow in hair).
• Claudia and John agree: not posting your kids is "worth judging" in today’s online climate (11:23–12:10).
• Commentary on laws requiring family influencer profits to be saved for children, and shifting creator trends (11:41).

Notable quote:
_"It is not their job. Like, we chose to do this... We don't want to create a digital footprint for them without their permission." – Alex (10:59)

6. The Realities of New Parenthood

• On sleep training, breastfeeding, and learning to "go with the flow" as first-time parents (13:30–16:33).
• Both Claudia and Alex admit motherhood made them "so chill" compared to previous selves.
• John shares the unexpected emotional impact of becoming a dad to a girl, including becoming more tearful and sensitive (17:13–17:30).

7. Career Evolution: From DINKs to Mom Creators

• Alex and John worried motherhood would hinder creator opportunities, but found the reverse: new partnerships and creative directions flourished (18:30–19:03).
• Both credit not showing their child (and instead using creative stand-ins) with deepening their content’s quality and audience connection (19:29–20:03).

Notable quote:
_"If it limits our income, we don't care. Like, we're still not going to post her just because we want to make more money." – Alex (19:10)

8. Pop Culture Faves and Podcast Dynamics

• Lively talk about Spotify Wrapped, Taylor Swift, and “good sleepers” versus “hard babies” (27:45–32:59).
• Banter between Alex and John about music, sports, and division of duties at home (29:41–31:44).

9. Work, Money, and Taxes as Content Creators

• Honest discussion of the overwhelming complexities of freelancing, creator income streams, and fear of IRS penalties or jail—"going to jail is my big fear" (49:22–51:11).
• Behind-the-scenes reveal about where they make the most platform income (Facebook!) and why they don't try to do 'everything' (58:00–59:27).

10. Pop Culture, Facebook Groups & Parenting Takes

• Reaction to viral mom Facebook groups and helicopter/affluent parenting (71:45–75:08).
• Strong opinions on travel sports and parenting styles, both humorous and genuine.

11. Rapid Fire: Movies, Creators, and Celebrity Doppelgängers

• Sharing favorite films (Mean Girls, Wolf of Wall Street, Saving Private Ryan, etc.) and creators (David Dobrik, among others) (76:08–80:10).
• Claudia offers and discusses celebrity lookalikes for herself and Alex (65:48–66:18).

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On digital boundaries:
  "If you know what you know [about kids online] and still decide, to me, that's just, like, something worth judging.” – Claudia (11:34)

• On creativity after parenthood:
  "You have to get creative in a way that feels right for you. And this is just like, what felt right for us." – Alex (19:53)

• On fighting as a couple:
  "A fight is like sleeping on the couch. I feel like it's very healthy to disagree..." – Claudia (45:09)

• On scammers and the danger of being too trusting:
  "We get a discount on our Internet if I pay with gift cards... And he's like, 'Alex, this is the worst time. Everything is a scam.'" – Alex & John (47:28–47:39)

Timestamps for Key Sections

• Intro & Relationship Background: 00:03–02:43
• Handling Pregnancy Loss & Sharing Online: 04:11–06:54
• Parenting Choices (Baby Privacy & Content): 10:01–13:01
• New Parenthood: Sleep & Feeding: 13:30–17:30
• Impact of Parenthood on Careers: 18:30–20:03
• Pop Culture/Social Media Income Discussion: 27:45–51:11 & 58:00–59:27
• Parenting Styles and Pop Culture: 71:45–78:37
• Movie & Creator Picks: 76:08–80:10

Tone & Atmosphere

The conversation is fresh, witty, and deeply authentic—marked by Alex and John’s candor about marriage, trauma, and creative boundaries. Claudia’s enthusiastic, sometimes irreverent, always supportive energy gives the episode the feel of an intimate, relatable catch-up between friends and creators.

For New Listeners

If you haven’t tuned into The Toast or followed Alex & John, this episode is a compelling primer: vulnerable, funny, and insightful—offering unfiltered takes on the intersections of modern family, fame, and finding your lane online.