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- [00:02]
Claudia Oshry
Good morning, millennials.
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Jackie Oshry
Welcome back to the toast and Happy Monday. That if there ever were a Monday, today would be the one.
- [00:09]
Claudia Oshry
If there ever were a Monday. It's so funny how last week we were going on and on about how the days didn't feel like the days, and how silly are we because the rest of the year is just. We could write it off. No, we got hit over the head with a Monday.
- [00:23]
Jackie Oshry
I don't even know how we can continue on, like, seriously even begin the show without acknowledging where the hell you are. You guys. La Fole Essen Studio Nueva Studio. If you're watching on YouTube, you're probably like, what holiday extravaganza is Jackie filming from?
- [00:44]
Claudia Oshry
What a bright time. It's the right time to rock the stage at Jisno.
- [00:50]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah, she really wanted to promote Jizzno, so she rented this studio.
- [00:53]
Claudia Oshry
This is for Chisno. No. I have so much to update you guys on. I have a new studio. No, I'm kidding.
- [00:58]
Jackie Oshry
I moved.
- [00:59]
Claudia Oshry
We've been talking about a rebrand. This is it. No, I am in Dallas and we had to do toastiness today. And so I booked a studio here in Dallas. And so far it's been so pargy and I didn't expect such festivity, but I'm loving it because I am so the elk of a spirited woman.
- [01:18]
Jackie Oshry
No. And the thing is, and this is not going to be a relatable sentiment to our listeners, so you guys, I apologize, but when you are like, as homegrown as we are, everything we do, our studio, we built ourself, our tech, we run ourself. To just walk into a studio and have everything done for you. Like, okay, am I Mariah Carey?
- [01:32]
Claudia Oshry
It's like, Claudia, I was just about to say, it's Mariah Carey and you.
- [01:35]
Jackie Oshry
Have nothing to worry about. Like, I sit here in my studio while we record, and every probably 10 minutes, you probably see my eyes. I just check to make sure we're still recording, that the camera hasn't died. Like, I'm always checking my things. You have a staff. Okay, Staff?
- [01:48]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. No. So I'm just kind of like talent today.
- [01:50]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah.
- [01:51]
Claudia Oshry
Walked in the studio, went to work. My brother in law drove me to work this morning. I've got my thermos full of coffee.
- [01:57]
Jackie Oshry
You're.
- [02:00]
Claudia Oshry
But the thing is, I already live in the suburbs. I'm so Texan. You are so Texan.
- [02:05]
Jackie Oshry
This ain't Texan.
- [02:05]
Claudia Oshry
And it's been great. And this is like a really great way for us to travel and work.
- [02:10]
Jackie Oshry
And it's so true. By the way, if.
- [02:12]
Claudia Oshry
See the great studios of America, if.
- [02:15]
Jackie Oshry
You know, barring there's no, like, tech issues afterwards. And I'm able to get the episode up, like, you are free to move to Dallas. I'm loving this studio that you're at. This curtain is gorgeous and we'll just have to get you like, some wallpaper. And you're good.
- [02:29]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. Also, I just feel like every studio brings its own energy. And not only does this studio give me a je ne sais quoi, I had the worst night's sleep of my entire life last night. I couldn't fall asleep, stay asleep. The boys were like, up, you know, rotating alarms. I think my Oura ring in total said I got like four hours of sleep. They're concerned over at Aura. They're like girl headquarters. Stop what you're doing.
- [02:55]
Jackie Oshry
Having a meeting about it.
- [02:56]
Claudia Oshry
Also, the craziest thing happened to me this weekend.
- [02:59]
Jackie Oshry
What?
- [02:59]
Claudia Oshry
Oh, I even tell you.
- [03:00]
Jackie Oshry
Well, no, you didn't because you've literally been ignoring me for four weeks. I haven't spoken to you seriously since the toast on Thursday.
- [03:07]
Claudia Oshry
Wednesday I have not spoken to you. I mean, we did finally FaceTime last night, so you could see the 20 seconds. We didn't even have swirly chat. So we haven't swirly chatted since the toast on Tuesday.
- [03:18]
Jackie Oshry
I seriously know nothing about you. I don't know where you are, nothing about you. And you don't even know what, like, what I've been through this weekend.
- [03:24]
Claudia Oshry
No. We have so much to catch up on, like on a swirly level before we even get into the fast five, which are juicy. What happened to me? I don't know if you heard through the grapevine, but, like, I was struck down on Saturday. I had the worst stomach bug 24 hours.
- [03:39]
Jackie Oshry
Oh my God. Both ends.
- [03:40]
Claudia Oshry
Get out of bed. What'd you say?
- [03:43]
Jackie Oshry
Both ends. I know you like to talk about it.
- [03:47]
Claudia Oshry
Not. Not Noro style. Just like, just so strange.
- [03:51]
Jackie Oshry
You don't know what's going around there.
- [03:54]
Claudia Oshry
It was like nausea and bellyache in the morning. And then I took a zofran, so that sort of subsided. But then I just had like body aches and chills for the. I went to sleep at 8:00 and I woke up around 8:00 at not the greatest sleep. And I felt so much better. The next day was really just 24 hours. It was the craziest thing.
- [04:10]
Jackie Oshry
But, you know, nonavirus is going around.
- [04:12]
Claudia Oshry
I can't say I've had nonovirus and it wasn't that. It was just a somewhat something.
- [04:18]
Jackie Oshry
It's disgusting what they're trying to do to you. Maybe it's because you abandoned your family and God wanted to punish you. Cuz you literally. Maybe.
- [04:24]
Claudia Oshry
Or maybe you wanted to punish me so you sent me a bottle.
- [04:28]
Jackie Oshry
No, in a bottle.
- [04:29]
Claudia Oshry
Tell the Lannisters it was me.
- [04:32]
Jackie Oshry
That's terrible. I'm really sorry. Like, nothing ruins a holiday weekend more than both ends.
- [04:38]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah, it wasn't. It. It wasn't like. Like that. But I guess for drama's sake, yeah, it was both ends. Crazy.
- [04:46]
Jackie Oshry
Oh, she's crazy.
- [04:49]
Claudia Oshry
So, yeah, I just. It's not been a restful weekend. Last night, barely slept. And all's to say that will contribute to the energy today, whatever that energy may be.
- [04:58]
Jackie Oshry
So you're kind of like letting everyone know, like, you're on your period. Kind of like if you have a bit of an attitude today, that's why. That's. Then that's. Everyone knows why. I used to share my periods. Oh, I wanted to talk about periods.
- [05:07]
Claudia Oshry
That's not what I was trying to say. I'm just like. I just think today's going to be different from all other episodes.
- [05:13]
Jackie Oshry
Oh, wow. Okay.
- [05:14]
Claudia Oshry
Different, right? I mean, look around. It's already different.
- [05:17]
Jackie Oshry
It's already different. She has a curtain feast.
- [05:20]
Claudia Oshry
And if you're listening as a podcast, the drapes will post stuff to the Instagram so you don't miss. So you can see the curtain.
- [05:27]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. Wait. I had something to say. Oh. You know, I was thinking yesterday about something I've always thought about. Like, being pregnant is like, oh, like a nice, fun bonus of being pregnant. In addition to, you know, the joy of life is like, you don't get your period for like a year. Right, Right. And so it occurred to me, like, over the weekend, it's been a couple of months since I got my period and let me tell you, I don't care. Like, I would take my period over some of the side effects I'm experiencing. Like, it's literally not a perk.
- [05:54]
Claudia Oshry
No. Like, pregnancy symptoms are extreme period symptoms.
- [05:58]
Jackie Oshry
They're not even remotely on the same level.
- [06:01]
Claudia Oshry
Which you'll make up for all the bleeding that you miss in the hospital. Postpartum. Yeah, I got a lot of bleeding to catch up on.
- [06:07]
Jackie Oshry
I'm here just to constantly remind everyone about the perks and the downfalls. And they're definitely more like negatives than there are perks. I discovered a few perks this weekend. Like, Romeo shit his crate and I walked in to Wake him up. And the room smells. And I'm like, did somebody die? It was so smelly. And then I opened the crate, and I was like, ah. And I literally, like, went running out of the room, gagging. And it was such an ordeal to clean it up. And I didn't have to do any of it. Like, Ben did it all. So there are, you know, small silver linings to this journey.
- [06:35]
Claudia Oshry
Now let me ask you, in what world would Romeo have shot his crate, pregnant or not pregnant, and you would be cleaning it up instead of Ben.
- [06:44]
Jackie Oshry
So funny, because I shared this on my Instagram and I got that reception a lot. And I'm shocked that people would think that, like, I would let Ben clean up duty. Like, he's such an insufficient cleaner. And, you know, okay, cleaning a dish is different than cleaning up duty. Like, in my home, anytime Romeo's had an accident, like, doing all the laundry and, like, spraying down the crate, that's obviously me. I was surprised that so many people thought, like, that would be a bad job, no matter what. Like, are you guys crazy? I would never leave him in charge of fecal matter in the home. It's too serious.
- [07:11]
Claudia Oshry
It's too grave of the sanitation department. You're right. Did he complete the task?
- [07:15]
Jackie Oshry
He did. And I, you know, with a watchful eye behind him, I was really being, like, his supervisor. I was being really nutty. Oh, Also, so much going on, first of all. So if you're a Patreon member, you know this already. But over the weekend, we dropped two fabulous episodes. One of them was Ben and I. We recorded a Patreon over Thanksgiving Day weekend. So many people have been wanting to hear from Ben, like, post pregnancy. It was the funniest episode. And it was supposed to be about, like, pregnancy and, like, the journey and fatherhood. And it was, but, like, there was a big chunk in the middle, probably like 25 minutes. That just became a referendum on hygiene. And we had this big conversation about teeth brushing. I don't know if you know this. Like, I have a husband, and I'm glad that I shared it because it turns out a lot of people do. I have a husband who, like, I fight with to brush his teeth. Like, it's like I have to beg and plead, like, get on my knees. Okay. And then we had a bunch of, like, dental professionals in the comments sounding off. And I just wanted to ask if you had to choose one time of day to brush your teeth, like, that would be, like, the most impactful. When do you think it would be the Morning. So it actually turns out that what they say in the dental field is, like, you brush your teeth in the morning for the world, but you brush your teeth at night for your dentist. Like, for the actual health of your teeth. It's much more important to brush at night. And that's what I'm always fighting Ben. Apparently, like, it's a thing that men do. Like, they don't brush their teeth at night. And, oh, my God, it was so funny on the podcast.
- [08:32]
Claudia Oshry
Do you ever have to, like, push him to brush his teeth in the morning?
- [08:35]
Jackie Oshry
No. And so this is Ben's, like, philosophy. He brushes his teeth in the shower. He leaves his toothbrush and his toothpaste in the shower, and he always showers in the morning. So sometimes he showers before bed, and then he'll brush his teeth. But, like, to him, like, taking the toothbrush out of the shower and bringing it to the sink is, you know, such a journey that he just couldn't possibly bear the brunt of it. So sometimes he ends up not brushing his teeth. And I seriously have gotten to the habit of being like, I'm going to brush my teeth. Should we do it together? Like, making it a fun activity? Like, it.
- [09:02]
Claudia Oshry
Maybe you could get him a toothbrush shaped like an airplane.
- [09:05]
Jackie Oshry
I've actually gotten then another toothbrush for him that we leave at the sink. So you have your sink toothbrush, a.
- [09:12]
Claudia Oshry
Toothbrush shaped like a fork.
- [09:13]
Jackie Oshry
Jackie. I left him a toothbrush at the sink, and then. So he has one in the shower. He doesn't have to move it, and then one in the sink. Cut to a few weeks later, he was like, went to go brush his teeth, and he's using my toothbrush. And I said, what are you doing? He said, this is my toothbrush. I said, no, it's fucking not. So we can't even. We can't handle having two toothbrushes at the sink.
- [09:31]
Claudia Oshry
I just want you to know, like, if someone's listening to this episode, maybe their first timer, they stumbled here by accident, and they don't know that Ben is your husband. Like, they would assume he's your child. Having to convince him to brush his teeth. You bought him a special toothbrush.
- [09:43]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah.
- [09:44]
Claudia Oshry
For outside of the shower.
- [09:45]
Jackie Oshry
Well, sometimes it does feel like I am his mother. Like, this morning, I had to call him into the kitchen and being like, listen, you're not in trouble. But we. I love to hand wash dishes. I actually feel like it's like sometimes the dishwasher just gives you, like, yucky vibes. So certain things, if there's not raw meat. Like, we used a knife to cut a vegetable. It could be hand washed.
- [10:02]
Claudia Oshry
Well, knives should be hand washed anyway.
- [10:04]
Jackie Oshry
Yes, of course, I do know that. But I'm just using it as an example. So we have this drying rack, and when I come in the morning, like, there's a couple of dishes on the drying rack that are dry and almost every single one of them still has food on it. So I had to call them in and be like, listen, I wanna talk to you about something. You're not in trouble. But, like, this is unacceptable. Like, you can't put away dishes with food. And he, seriously, he had the absolute audacity to say to me, listen, I tried my best.
- [10:29]
Claudia Oshry
A for effort.
- [10:30]
Jackie Oshry
I'm like, that's unacceptable. This isn't like a test on math. You didn't try your best. You just didn't try. Like, the spoon was still sticky.
- [10:38]
Claudia Oshry
Weaponized incompetence. Yeah, that is a classic case.
- [10:41]
Jackie Oshry
I'm trying to get all of this under control before, you know, God willing, the baby comes because, like, I can't live like this. Two children. I can't.
- [10:48]
Claudia Oshry
No, no, now's the time. That is so funny that your version of nesting is like boot camp is literally boot camp.
- [10:54]
Jackie Oshry
Also to say there's a great new Patreon episode that you guys are going to love. So head over to patron.com/the toast and let's talk about our holiday weekends. Because I kicked off the holiday going to the parade, which I had talked to everyone about, like, how excited I was and of course, like, the year that I get to go to the Thanksgiving day parade. Front row seats, VIP treatment is the day of, like, the biggest storm. Apparently New York has been experiencing droughts. I had no idea. So it was like a good stor, but definitely, like, took its toll on the parade. I think I got sick. Like, it was just. It was a lot for one person.
- [11:24]
Claudia Oshry
I'm so sorry. And it affected me too, because I was really excited to look for cogers. Where's cogers in the crowd. And by the time, like, we are on an hour delay here, so, like, by the time I turned on the parade, like, you were gone.
- [11:36]
Jackie Oshry
Well, me and Ben were, like, shuffling in and out, which you weren't supposed to do. Once you get to your seats, like, you're really not supposed to move. But I'm sorry. Like, we were sitting in the torrential rain and they had this, like, fabulous little lounge inside with like a ton of food and stuff. So we kept, like, going back and forth. But also it. We very quickly realized our seats were like three seats off camera. Like, we were just out of the view. So even when I was there, like.
- [11:58]
Claudia Oshry
For 10ft from star, no one was.
- [12:00]
Jackie Oshry
Seeing me, which was just. It was definitely upsetting except that I wore this coat and they made me put a poncho. They didn't make me, but they gave out these ponchos. And like, I'm sitting in the rain, so I'm wearing the poncho. And something about the way the poncho laid on my jacket. I actually looked like a linebacker. Like, I looked huge. I had this, like, hump, like, Like a turtle. Like, I had this shell on my back and I actually.
- [12:20]
Claudia Oshry
Turtle.
- [12:20]
Jackie Oshry
I did not want to be seen. Turtle. The turtle. I didn't want to be seen on television. So I was actually grateful for the seats, but it was star studded, let me tell you. Who was I sitting next to? Jessica Chastain and her kids and everything. Skylar Astin, obviously, it's.
- [12:32]
Claudia Oshry
Did you talk to anyone?
- [12:34]
Jackie Oshry
I spoke to Ben.
- [12:36]
Claudia Oshry
Oh, and then you were sitting next to Jessica Chastain. Like, was there a word exchange?
- [12:40]
Jackie Oshry
So the thing is that Jessica Chastain and I both actually follow each other on social media and I believe we've dmed like once or twice.
- [12:45]
Claudia Oshry
That's always so awkward whether or not it's an A list. Star, like a girl from your town that you both follow and then you, like, run into each other and it's like, why do we follow each other?
- [12:52]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah, Like, I kind of wish she wasn't there. Honestly, like, I was so awkward. And so when she came, she was like, with her kids and she was like, clearly in mom mode and also very flustered because she also was sitting in the rain.
- [13:04]
Claudia Oshry
And what?
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Jackie Oshry
It's flustered. I'm going to go up to her and be like, hi, Jessica, I'm girl in the chat.
- [13:11]
Claudia Oshry
No, but like, if you were sitting next to her, like, oh, like a little.
- [13:14]
Jackie Oshry
I wasn't sitting next to her. There was like three people between us.
- [13:17]
Claudia Oshry
Oh, like, oh, it's freezing. Just a little something, you know.
- [13:20]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. I didn't want to bother her and I actually have no regrets about not bothering her. Like, she was seriously. She looked just like anyone else. Like a really involved, kind of overwhelmed parent.
- [13:29]
Claudia Oshry
Understood. And Skylar Astin.
- [13:31]
Jackie Oshry
Skylar asked.
- [13:31]
Claudia Oshry
I feel like him and Ben would be friends.
- [13:34]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah, he was in a third row, so I didn't really talk to him because I was in the first.
- [13:38]
Claudia Oshry
You didn't talk to people?
- [13:39]
Jackie Oshry
I didn't talk to people in the third row. And then, you know who I did see, which I texted you, but you didn't answer. Kind of the theme of the weekend.
- [13:45]
Claudia Oshry
Who did you see?
- [13:46]
Jackie Oshry
Joey Grazia Day.
- [13:48]
Claudia Oshry
Old school vibe. Okay, you text old school vibe. My boy, you. We also, like, he's kind of the man of the hour.
- [13:55]
Jackie Oshry
I know.
- [13:55]
Claudia Oshry
So you texted me that in a flurry of other text messages, so I never got to respond to that. Like, you saw him in the stands. You saw him in the show. Like, what was he doing?
- [14:03]
Jackie Oshry
Oh, no, he was a part of my VIP crew. Like, with the lounge and the seats and the ponchos. I didn't see where he was sitting. I didn't see where he was sitting because I saw him in the lounge.
- [14:13]
Claudia Oshry
Far behind you.
- [14:14]
Jackie Oshry
I saw him in the lounge. And then I went out, like, the second the show started because I wanted to be there for opening kickoff. And I think him and the swirly were having a cocktail inside. And then 30 minutes later, when I went inside for a break, he was coming out. We were kind of on different schedules.
- [14:27]
Claudia Oshry
So I didn't even see two ships passing.
- [14:29]
Jackie Oshry
And I did want to say hello to him, except, like, now everyone. He just won Dancing with the Stars. Like, I didn't. I don't care about that. Like, I cared about him when he was the old school vibe kind of guy.
- [14:37]
Claudia Oshry
Right, Right.
- [14:38]
Jackie Oshry
And I just know, like, if I went up to him, he would be like, oh, another Dancing with the Stars fanatic. And, like, I don't even give a fudge that he won. I just, like, wanted to talk to him about the old school vibe.
- [14:46]
Claudia Oshry
Right. Like, we didn't watch his season. We don't watch Dancing with the Stars, but we're really big fans of his.
- [14:51]
Jackie Oshry
Work on page six.
- [14:52]
Claudia Oshry
Of his work, like, on my Instagram algorithm, seeing pictures of him and his lady, neither of whom I follow, but I really enjoy, like, seeing them come through my algo once in a while.
- [15:01]
Jackie Oshry
Same. And that's the only regert that I have.
- [15:05]
Claudia Oshry
Okay, no regerts. Then we watched the parade. It was jolly good fun. And I just want to say that everyone who participated in the parade, like, put those French can can dance Olympics openers to shame the girls who couldn't dance on the riverbank. Instead, it was because it's raining. Like, I'm seeing high schoolers in a kick line.
- [15:27]
Jackie Oshry
It's so true.
- [15:28]
Claudia Oshry
And what's your excuse?
- [15:29]
Jackie Oshry
Were you keeping count of how many fell? Because that was like, seriously my activity of the day. And it Was, like, so sad, but so many. I mean, I don't know. They were. They were. There were like a. I forget if it was like a college or high school doing an Irish river dance, which.
- [15:40]
Claudia Oshry
That's the one. I dare you. Not that I saw. It was the one and only fall that I saw. It made me really sad. But my concern is, like, I don't want anyone tearing an ACL over the Thanksgiving Day parade. Like, I don't want any career ending injuries. And, like, even if you fell, it just means that you gave it your all. Like, don't be embarrassed. Seriously, like, because look what happens when you are too scared to fall. Can. Can dancers. I guess maybe because they would have fallen in the river.
- [16:03]
Jackie Oshry
No, like, they would have fallen off a cliff and crack their heads open. Yeah.
- [16:07]
Claudia Oshry
It's the Olympics. Like, the whole world's watching. I don't know what to tell you. Take a risk or, like, move the dance. I. That is just so crazy to me how the Thanksgiving Day parade, like, these are high schoolers who gave it their all, left it all for a couple of, like, you know, a nationwide performance. Whereas the Olympics, global audience, they couldn't. Can. Can. I'll never get over it.
- [16:28]
Jackie Oshry
No, it kind of was like a slay on everyone's behalf, like Hoda, Savannah, Al, Jimmy Fallon. Like, everybody, really. And then of course, the performers, the Rockettes, the Broadway shows, the high schools, it really was a slay, even though it was not ideal. And let me tell you, whatever it looked like on TV in person, it was worse. It did not let up for 30 seconds. The rain was vicious. Like, truly vicious. Every. It was. I love the parade. It's literally the best time of year. It's the most beautiful thing ever. And I hope to be invited back next year. So I can, like, actually see it in, like, the sun.
- [17:02]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. In the. In the glory that it was meant to be seen in. We got up to the part in the parade until the Disney cruise float where, like, Mickey and the gang, like, sang a song on a boat. And then we just had to keep rewinding and watching that maybe 50 times, and that was the end of the parade.
- [17:17]
Jackie Oshry
I also want to talk about Dasha, if I may.
- [17:20]
Claudia Oshry
That was my next point. We absolutely have to talk about Dasha.
- [17:23]
Jackie Oshry
Now. I'm extremely sympathetic to, you know, any sort of faux pas when it comes to, like, wardrobe, hair, makeup, especially in the rain. So the fact that she began singing and had probably been on that float for two hours drenched in rain, so her extensions were still straight but her natural hair was curly and she had a mullet. Like, I actually.
- [17:41]
Claudia Oshry
Thank you for explaining that to me. I thought that was a style choice and I didn't mind it.
- [17:44]
Jackie Oshry
No. Because I saw her tiktoks, like, on the way in the car and she had, like, a full glam blowout, but the extensions, like, stayed one way and the natural hair reverted to its natural state. So. And then her lipstick was all, like. She obviously wasn't wearing waterproof lipstick, which was a huge mistake on behalf of her makeup artist. But, like, all these things are par for the course.
- [18:01]
Claudia Oshry
I think it, like, that's like someone falling. Like, I. I'm not mad at you. Like, forgive yourself a thousand percent.
- [18:07]
Jackie Oshry
But what I can't forgive and what I actually want to forget is the outfit. I was actually. Her performance was so. It struck me in so many ways. One, because of the lipstick, obviously. But that's really not her fault. And then I started looking at her and I was like, what the hell are you wearing? Like, seriously, you're wearing underwear and a bra. First of all, it's one degree outside, it's pouring rain. And this is a show for kids. Like.
- [18:29]
Claudia Oshry
No, it's for the children. Not only was her outfit inappropriate, but the way she was moving, there was no need for that.
- [18:36]
Jackie Oshry
And I feel like maybe every year, like, there's always one new pop star in the scene who, like, wants to make a moment and just, like, be inappropriate. And I just feel like the Thanksgiving Day parade is not the place for that. It's really just a beautiful, family friendly affair. And perhaps it's the maternal spirit taking over me, but I actually found it downright offensive.
- [18:52]
Claudia Oshry
No. And, like, I would have. She's someone who I would like. She's got, like, country hits and, like, when some I people want to, like, push the envelope, do stuff every once in a while. Okay. A little edgy when you do it in kids spaces. I'm done with you.
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Jackie Oshry
There's a time and a place for pushing the envelope.
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Claudia Oshry
And it's not in kids spaces. Is not in kids spaces.
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Jackie Oshry
So she kind of definitely was a moment for May.
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Claudia Oshry
Yeah, that was a shock, I think, for everyone. But it did also sort of unite the nation.
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Jackie Oshry
It did sort of unite the nation. And hopefully she just takes. You know, this is a learning process. So hopefully that's just something she learns.
- [19:29]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah, I could. I could eventually forgive it. Maybe she didn't. Maybe she never saw the Thanksgiving Day Parade.
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Jackie Oshry
And maybe she's not American, is she?
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Claudia Oshry
For 21 plus, literally, it's kind of like when someone botches the national anthem. Like, it's so disrespectful, but it's also really funny.
- [19:43]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah, but with the bocce of the national anthem, like, I don't think that people set out to, like, be disrespectful.
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Claudia Oshry
You think she set out?
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Jackie Oshry
I mean, if you know where you're going and, like, you put on that outfit, like, you. She's not blind.
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Claudia Oshry
Also, it was the.
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Jackie Oshry
No. And Jackie, like, imagine like a dress rehearsals and stuff. Like, you're standing next to Mickey Mouse and that's the outfit you're wearing. Like, it's not.
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Claudia Oshry
No. You need to have that rule. Like, if your skirt doesn't hit the bottom of your middle finger when you put your arms down, it's too short for the Thanksgiving Day parade.
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Jackie Oshry
Other than that, all I did all weekend was, like, eat everything in sight. And I watched so much television. Ben made me watch D1, 2 and 3. The Mighty Ducks. Have you ever seen them?
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Claudia Oshry
Oh, I thought you were going to say descendants 1, 2, and 3.
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Jackie Oshry
I wish. Jackie. Seriously. And I think Ben had this experience, too, which sucks, because he loved these movies growing up. Then you watch them as an adult, and you're like, oh, Emilio Estevez is a freak. Like, the movies are horrible. And Emilio Estevez, like, leaving after the second movie when the franchise was so popular, like, it's big time. Loser of him.
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Claudia Oshry
I can't believe you watched that.
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Jackie Oshry
I fell asleep.
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Claudia Oshry
No one could ever make me watch something like that during both.
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Jackie Oshry
Jackie. Well, I was really. I was in one of those moods where I was, like, nauseous, and everything was making me nauseous. Everything Ben was suggesting to watch. So then he just put on Disney plus. And for some reason, Disney plus, like, settles my stomach. Like, I find it unoffensive. So I'm like, put on whatever you want. And I was, like, going to sleep within the hour. He's like, we have to watch Mighty Ducks. I'm like, okay, you know what? I read Keenan's book, actually.
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Claudia Oshry
We don't have to watch Mighty Ducks.
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Jackie Oshry
I heard a lot about it, you know, growing up, and I wanted to see what it was.
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Claudia Oshry
Yeah, you had to be there. It was one of those things.
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Jackie Oshry
Horrible. And seriously, maybe I'm just, like, an adult now. I was. There were so many inconsistencies in the movie. I'm like, how could you have watches. It makes no fucking sense. Yeah, the movies are horrible. No.
- [21:31]
Claudia Oshry
And even the premise, like, now I watch an old movie and I'll Recognize it was probably. You had to be there, and it was better then. But it's like a fun swirl, like, First Wives Club. Like, that's just like, a fun, swirly concept. A bunch of young kid hockey players.
- [21:42]
Jackie Oshry
Jackie, can I tell you what happens in the movie? Like, you're going to crack up. It's so stupid. Ready? So Emilio Estevez is this big time lawyer, and he gets pulled over for a dui and, like, part of his community service is, like, coaching this peewee team. And this peewee team, he gets, like, the bad district. Like, they stink. And all the other teams have, like, a lot of money and they're really good, and they're in Minnesota where, like, hockey is life. So in the first movie, you know, he turns it around, gives them love and attention, and they're really good. And I think they win, like, the peewee championship. Okay.
- [22:11]
Claudia Oshry
It's classic Globo Gym versus Average Joes.
- [22:14]
Jackie Oshry
Just wait. First of all, they never would have beat the other teams. Like, it's just absurd. Okay? But I can. I can suspend disbelief. They beat the other teams because they had, I don't know, heart. In the second movie, after such a banger first season, who takes notice of Emilio Estevez and his team? Oh, just the Junior Olympics. Okay. And they hire Emilio Estevez and the Ducks to join. You won one peewee season and you stink. And all the kids are like homeless street rats. Like, I don't. I don't understand, like, where they come from. They keep picking kids up off the street. Now you're going to the Olympics. Oh, and by the way, spoiler alert. They win. Like, it's just. It's. It's so stupid.
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Claudia Oshry
Damn.
- [22:57]
Jackie Oshry
It's a perfect movie for a kid. Because you really need to, like, know nothing to believe. It's.
- [23:01]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah, it's for the Elk of Dreamers.
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Jackie Oshry
It's for the Elk of Dreamers. Then I also watch the Empress, which I feel like you were talking about.
- [23:09]
Claudia Oshry
I'm always talking about the Empress. It's a fictional drama. No, it's actually.
- [23:14]
Jackie Oshry
It's like the crown, right?
- [23:15]
Claudia Oshry
It's like the crown, but it's Austria, Hungary.
- [23:19]
Jackie Oshry
The Austrian Empire.
- [23:21]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah, the Austrian Empire. Cece of Austria, who was married to King Franz.
- [23:27]
Jackie Oshry
Emperor Franz, and she was married to the worst emperor of all time. I don't know, like, what. I don't know what the perception of Cece and her man's was prior to this. Are they known? Are they, like, the greats? Like, what do people think of them? Because I think she's fucking annoying. And he was seriously one of the worst emperors. And I don't know, like, spoiler alert. I know the Austrian emperor, like, is. I know the Austrian Empire no longer exists. I don't know how they got there, but I imagine Cece and her dumb ass husband were a part of it because, like, they are ruined. Like, some of the worst leaders on the planet.
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Claudia Oshry
Well, after I watched season one of that series, as I anxiously awaited season two that I think just dropped and I haven't watched yet, I read two books on CC written by my swirly, Allison Pataki. She. I think she wrote. Oh, Marjorie. Yeah, so I got the gist on cece and, like, basically when her and her husband got married, they, like, it was a love match. They thought they were in love, but, like, she and everyone around them said it and they didn't care because they thought love would conquer all. And love does not conquer all in a situation like this. She was not cut out for the life of the Empress of, you know, just the daily everything that it entails. So they grew apart. He, like, cheated on her a million times, gave her, like, STDs.
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Jackie Oshry
Oh, my God.
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Claudia Oshry
Yeah, she has, like, she had a lot of affairs. She wound up spending a lot of time in Britain. She's just, like, very tortured. But she spent a lot of care, a lot of time in, like, self care and beauty. So she was, like, always known as, like, the most beautiful, beautiful woman in all of Europe. Like, I think literally into her 60s. Like, just a gargy Parchy girly who liked Tauruses.
- [24:58]
Jackie Oshry
That must have been exciting to have booked that role. You know, they're looking for the most beautiful woman in all of Europe. And mom, I got the role. Like that. That is exciting. I keep thinking about that.
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Claudia Oshry
Yeah. Did you watch season two?
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Jackie Oshry
Yeah, I'm all caught up.
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Claudia Oshry
Oh. So, okay. Don't. I don't. I wonder where in the history books season two ends because there's so much within that story that's so crazy about, like, the suns and whatever. But just to bring it back to something else that you learned that I know is one of your new favorite facts about how did World War I begin?
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Jackie Oshry
Archduke Franz Ferdinand. Who's that?
- [25:29]
Claudia Oshry
Wait, he is like the. He is like the grand nephew of France that you're watching. Like, he was in line.
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Jackie Oshry
Oh, my God. The more you know I'm about to slay Jeopardy.
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Claudia Oshry
Yeah. Just connecting.
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Jackie Oshry
And Ben loved the Empress. Like, we woke up every day on the holiday weekend. He was like, should we watch? Should we watch Like I couldn't believe he was so obsessed with it. I highly recommend like just a good swirly drama. While also you learn something. Like I was. I met Napoleon. I said, oh, I know you like it's really legit.
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Claudia Oshry
Yeah. Also it's dubbed. So it's actually even more impressive that you liked it because it's like, you know, that's always a little bit tough.
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Jackie Oshry
I'm glad you brought that up because me and Ben were discussing that as well. I said it's a real testament to how good this show is because if it were any other show, the second I realized it's not in English and I have to watch like a mismatched lips speaking, I would have turned it off and it didn't even bother me. Like I didn't even notice it.
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Claudia Oshry
Yeah.
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Jackie Oshry
Oh my God.
- [26:22]
Claudia Oshry
I'm so glad you liked. I'm so excited to watch season two and if you like like the Crown and historical non fiction dramas even though they changed some stuff. I think the Empress on Netflix finally season two is here and I'm all.
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Jackie Oshry
Caught up on Yellowstone. I'm sure you're not because you're not home, but did you watch the episode before last?
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Claudia Oshry
No. I'm now too behind. After last night, something really crazy happens.
- [26:47]
Jackie Oshry
Me and Ben were talked. I won't spoil it. Watch it for like download it for the plane.
- [26:51]
Claudia Oshry
I will, I will. I'll catch up. I'm very excited.
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Jackie Oshry
So it was just kind of like a rotting weekend for me. I like lost brain cells and gained pounds, you know?
- [27:01]
Claudia Oshry
Yes, understood. Unfortunately, I couldn't eat as much as I had wanted because on Saturday I didn't eat a thing. Not a thing actually. I had like seven crackers. But after. But literally nothing more than that. And then yesterday I was so nervous to set off my stomach that of course ate less than I normally would and very bland. The Brad to just like, you know, try all the pies in my county.
- [27:21]
Jackie Oshry
Oh, that is sad because I feel like Dallas county pies hit different.
- [27:25]
Claudia Oshry
Right. Like I don't know. I just feel. I feel robbed.
- [27:29]
Jackie Oshry
That sucks. And I'm sure your weekend was like total opposite. I saw you were like out and about with the boys like doing all types of holiday things.
- [27:35]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. Arboretum, walk in, shopping as much as we could fit in. So it was. It's been nice. And also like tis now all the lights are out. It's just so festive and so wonderful.
- [27:46]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah.
- [27:46]
Claudia Oshry
And you almost don't mind that it gets dark so early because you get to see everyone's lights on their homes and it's really nice.
- [27:51]
Jackie Oshry
Now let me ask you a question. I'm sure a lot of people wonder this. Like, do you think you could see yourself living there?
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Claudia Oshry
Well, let's see how today's episode uploads. No, I don't know why. It just feels like so much further from like, you do you know what I mean?
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Jackie Oshry
I also think because, like, Texas really has its own culture. Like, that's so different than like Florida, New York. Even though, like, you're like, like in a Texas Jewish community, it feels so culturally different. Literally could be another country. Texas, like, they have their own set of rules, their own set of everything.
- [28:21]
Claudia Oshry
No, but I don't know for some reason, even though I'm sure distance wise and like the plane ride isn't even that different. Like moving to Florida feels like moving like closer from home than moving to Texas.
- [28:31]
Jackie Oshry
Florida is like an annex of New York.
- [28:34]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. Are there rumors that I. Yeah, they are. And the people who live in both places, like, they just come and go and they're. Are there rumors that I'm moving?
- [28:43]
Jackie Oshry
No, I don't think so. But I think like it's something people wonder. Like, that's where Zachary have so much family there.
- [28:48]
Claudia Oshry
Like also, whenever people travel, I think, I think Ben especially is on Zillow. They're like, here.
- [28:55]
Jackie Oshry
Ben loves Zillow.
- [28:57]
Claudia Oshry
I don't, I don't think I really think like that.
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Jackie Oshry
Oh, I'm always like everywhere I go, like picturing like what my life would look like in that. That place.
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Claudia Oshry
Yeah, yeah. No, it's. It's fab here.
- [29:09]
Jackie Oshry
The second we wrapped Wednesday's episode. Last week, our last episode of the week, huge news about Vanderpump rules came out. Then our faves got engaged over the weekend. Like, I kind of love taking five days off because it makes the day we come back so exciting.
- [29:21]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. I mean, between you and I, like on a personal level, miss my girl. Of course. And then the stories are storying and.
- [29:30]
Jackie Oshry
When you don't pick up the phone when I call you, then it makes it so much more exciting to talk to you on the toes. Like, I actually look forward to coming into work because I'm like, oh, I get to see my long lost sister.
- [29:38]
Claudia Oshry
And I called you back three separate times yesterday, like hours apart and you didn't pick up.
- [29:43]
Jackie Oshry
So that was like that too. That was my fault. I was taking my daily two hour nap. So like, please respect.
- [29:48]
Claudia Oshry
That was the pregnant woman.
- [29:49]
Jackie Oshry
The second time I was watching Yellowstone. My stupid fucking Phone was on do not disturb from the nap. Like, I forgot to turn it off after the nap. That one was my fault. The third one, I was watching the new episode of Yellowstone. You called me at like 8:15. It started at 8. I can't apologize for that. But what I can apologize for is, like, I picked up my phone at 8:24 and I saw that you called me at 8:20. So I was four minutes late. Like, pick up when I call you back.
- [30:11]
Claudia Oshry
I was on the other line.
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Jackie Oshry
I figured you might be.
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Claudia Oshry
And I. And I knew that when I was done with that call, I would call you back. And I was just gonna make you, like, wait for it.
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Jackie Oshry
Yeah. And you made me wait like 15 minutes.
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Claudia Oshry
I was chatting.
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Jackie Oshry
So that's why I don't want you moving to Dallas, because I seriously can't get in contact with you.
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Claudia Oshry
And we're in different time zones.
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Jackie Oshry
Like, although I kind of like the different time zones because I'm laying in bed, it's like 8:30. I'm like, shit. Normally I'd be like, oh, I miss the boys. They're asleep. But it's really 7:30 and they were up. So I actually don't mind the time difference.
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Claudia Oshry
Okay. It works for us.
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Jackie Oshry
Yeah.
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Claudia Oshry
Intercontinental.
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Jackie Oshry
Yeah.
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Claudia Oshry
Okay, let's get into the stories because we must do that. And I feel adequately caught up with my sister, as always. If I remember anything that I want to share with you or the class, it's our show.
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Jackie Oshry
Just chime in the rules.
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Claudia Oshry
This is our show. We make the rules.
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Jackie Oshry
That's beautiful.
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Claudia Oshry
Thank you. How was Parsley's weekend?
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Jackie Oshry
She spent it in Nashville with her family. And Travis's family, the Kelsey's, all of them came. Even Kylie and I have that as.
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Claudia Oshry
A story, so I don't know why I just asked that.
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Jackie Oshry
Oh, okay.
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Claudia Oshry
Okay.
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Jackie Oshry
I thought I had, like, new information for you.
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Claudia Oshry
No, no. I saw that they were all together for Thanksgiving, but I was going to get further details from you. But we'll get into all of that at In. In the fast five stories that you need to know.
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Jackie Oshry
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Claudia Oshry
Moana 2 is out now.
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Jackie Oshry
Yes. Olivia saw it over the weekend. She loved it.
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Claudia Oshry
Yeah. How nice. Our first story, the big news that dropped right after we wrapped on Tuesday. But I'm kind of glad because we've getting more information in the last five days and there was a new episode.
- [36:20]
Jackie Oshry
Of Shenanigans out that really added some color.
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Claudia Oshry
Yes. And they've released just information about the Valley and vanderpump rule. Season 12 will be completely rebooted with a new cast.
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Jackie Oshry
And to be clear, that's the upcoming season.
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Claudia Oshry
Yes.
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Jackie Oshry
So they don't even get like goodbye or nothing. It's like, you're fired, it's over.
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Claudia Oshry
Yeah. We thought that they had f we and it's so crazy because it's just so classic us. We were talking about this on Tuesday, so I actually don't even feel like we missed out that we had this conversation about where do they go from here. And I was telling you how they're at a standstill because of salaries. Except the only thing that I got wrong was that Duma had said that this season is being filmed and it's good, but where do we go from here? But there is no this season. So here's the information that we have. On November 26, Bravo announced that the hit series was renewed. But the twist in the martini glass is that Vanderpump Rules will feature a brand new cast going forward. Lisa Vanderpump said in a press release, in the restaurant business, one shift always gives way to another. Cheers to the next generation of Vanderpump Rules. So the original cast learned up learned of the major series shake up 24 hours before the news was made public. Pretty much everyone is off the show except for Lisa Vanderpump. And now it. It is being reported that The Valley Season 2 will feature Sheena, Tom Schwartz and Lala following the Reboot news. So that's where we're at at the moment.
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Jackie Oshry
So I understand completely and I don't disagree with why they did this. Like, it's not sustainable. However, having said that, they did attempt a small, ish sort of reboot, and I think those were some of the worst years on Vanderpump Rules. Like, dreadful storylines, dreadful people. Max, Brett, Danica, Charlie. Like, that was horrible. So I don't have a lot of faith that this new reboot show they're going to put together is going to be good. Having said that, I actually think that a lot of the cast graduating. Like, the whole tie to sir makes no sense anymore. Like, these people are parents. Like, yeah. So having Lala, Sheena, I find Tom Schwartz really, like, an interesting choice. Having them graduate to the Valley, especially when the Valley was so successful, I think is natural. I just. I think this is the end of the OG show because no one is going to watch us.
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Claudia Oshry
Yeah. So while I do think what we said last week about the salary cap issue being a major issue there, the sources are saying that there had been a long, long pause in production and nothing had really changed among the cast since the season 11 reunion. The network felt there was no path forward with the group in that capacity. I do think what I had heard.
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Jackie Oshry
Was that Ariana was in, like, in negotiations and she, like, doesn't give a fuck. She has so many opportunities. So not only did she want, I think, like a million dollars, like some. Something. Something huge. She also wanted stipulations in her contract that she didn't have to film any scenes with Sandoval, no scenes with Lala. Like, things that really make the show. We're gonna pay you a million dollars and you're not even gonna participate. Like, really not.
- [39:07]
Claudia Oshry
It's not workable. I think that if they didn't have rules like that and they put them on, you know, on a cash trip together and turn the cameras on, I think they could have had entertainment value. But it's, as they say, nothing lasts forever. I thought Sheena had a really good outlook on it, but also knowing that she's going to be on, easy for her. Easy for her to, like, say goodbye to this. Like, her next job is waiting. This wasn't going to go on forever and things change. People graduate. So I think this makes a lot of sense. I'm actually glad they're just ripping the band aid off and not letting the whole show go. Like, even though they technically did this with Roni, I don't feel like it's the same. I feel like this is a better use of this idea.
- [39:46]
Jackie Oshry
Well, Roni. Yeah. Is the natural comparison. Roni felt really premature. Like, I don't think there was really a lot of demand. It didn't feel like they were at this standstill. There was, like, an issue that the women were drinking too much and, like, going on in circles. And then the next morning, they had no idea what they were talking about. So it felt like a little bit of a waste of time. But there were fixes to it and the women really wanted it. Now it's like everybody shows up to Vanderpump Rules and they don't even want to be there. Like, there's a lack of interest. And I think that's where the two situations are really different. But Bravo just doesn't have a great track record thus far of rebooting shows.
- [40:15]
Claudia Oshry
The good news is, though, I feel like there's really a lot of potential there. Well, I guess they're going to cast from whoever is already working at sir. But I feel like, you know, people in la, they want this so badly. They're going to do what it takes to make great television, and maybe we'll get a real, like, junior version of Vanderpump Rules, the one that we all loved. Now, as someone who is in my Valley era and who really enjoyed Valley season one one, I've heard Valley season two is insane.
- [40:38]
Jackie Oshry
Really? No.
- [40:39]
Claudia Oshry
Oh, my God.
- [40:40]
Jackie Oshry
Where are you hearing things?
- [40:41]
Claudia Oshry
I don't know where I saw this. I literally have no idea. Probably just, like, something in my Explore page that it's the craziest season of reality TV ever.
- [40:49]
Jackie Oshry
Oh, my God.
- [40:50]
Claudia Oshry
You should watch season one.
- [40:51]
Jackie Oshry
I should.
- [40:52]
Claudia Oshry
And now that Lala is gonna be there, like, of course I'll still be watching, even though I already was going to. And I just want to say I'm holding space, a lot of fucking space for Lala and Tom Schwartz, because I know, by the way, is there for him to be on the Valley.
- [41:07]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah.
- [41:07]
Claudia Oshry
She was on Watch what Happens Live last week, and Andy was asking her about relationships with different castmates like Ariana. She hasn't spoken to her. Katie, she hasn't spoken to her. Schwartz, she said, I love Schwartzy.
- [41:18]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. I think that we feel it. I think we're not like, everyone. We're not feeling nothing. Like, there's something there. If there ever was a reason for them to. Not especially from Lala's pov, it was her relationship with Katie, even when it was strained. But when she was on Watch Drums Live, she Said she hasn't spoken to Katie. Like, like there is no friendship there now. They don't even work together on the show. Like, what the hell does Lala owe Katie? I think it's definitely a possibility and it could be one of those things that like gives the Valley, like it's sort of Scandival moment. Like it's, it would be huge.
- [41:50]
Claudia Oshry
But it also could have been the thing that saved Vanderpump Rules.
- [41:53]
Jackie Oshry
But the thing is, even Scandival didn't save Vanderpump.
- [41:56]
Claudia Oshry
No, sorry. Gave it a season and a half.
- [41:57]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah, it gives more. Like it gives you a little bit more life. But maybe like the production company couldn't afford it and the Valley could because I. Sheena, Lala, I mean Sheena and not Tom Schwartz, actually just Sheena is the only one going to the Valley who was an OG cast member from Vanderpump Rules season one. So she was one of the hot. Her Katie Maloney and Tom Sandoval were the only people who from season one were full time cast members. So they were the highest paid on Vanderpump Rules. I guarantee you Sheena took a significant pay cut to be on the Valley. But that's, you know, that sustains her podcast, that sustains her Instagram, all the things 100%.
- [42:30]
Claudia Oshry
Her YouTube. Yeah, no, it's, it's good business. And now I should rather be on TV than not be on tv. Everybody's talking about the Valley. They're going to be talking about the Valley. It's only in its infancy, so it's all up for them. And I'm, I'm really happy and I feel like the people who didn't make it to the Valley, most of them seem uninterested in reality TV anyway. Like Ariana and Katie and I think.
- [42:51]
Jackie Oshry
No, no. I think the only person who wasn't invited to the Valley. And I understand why, but I do think it's a miss to not have James Kennedy on TV at all. And he needs to get married. He. I bet, I bet you now he gets engaged and they have a baby just so he can get on the Valley. Like, I like how having a baby or like trying to conceive is like literally the one rule to getting on the Valley, which is why I don't Schwartz. But that's so Tom Schwartz. That has been Tom Schwartz's. Tom Schwartz is just one of those people. I think that's why so many of the cast members had fights with him. Like bored under a lucky star. He never worked at sir he never worked for Lisa Vanderpump. He ends up getting his own bar. He is a huge castmate on this show. He never worked at the restaurant and served all those years in the back alley smoking cigarettes like everybody else. He never put in his time. But he gets these things because he's like, a likable guy. It's actually so unfair.
- [43:36]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. That is. I forgot about James Kennedy. Where does James fall into?
- [43:42]
Jackie Oshry
Because he's also, like, kind of. I consider him more of like the new.
- [43:46]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. Like he could be on the reboot.
- [43:48]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah, he could.
- [43:50]
Claudia Oshry
But I think they just want to start fresh. They don't want someone who's like, this is my restaurant. You know, like, they need all new. And I get that. And maybe he'll come to the Valley one day.
- [44:00]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah.
- [44:01]
Claudia Oshry
But he does live there. Yeah, they have the house.
- [44:06]
Jackie Oshry
I don't know if that's in the Valley.
- [44:08]
Claudia Oshry
Well, the burbs.
- [44:10]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. Yeah. No, he's on his way.
- [44:13]
Claudia Oshry
So. I'm very excited for Valley season two. And you know what? In hindsight, what we got at the season finale of Vanderpump Rules last season, like, that was a series finale.
- [44:24]
Jackie Oshry
Now we know why there was that weird montage.
- [44:26]
Claudia Oshry
Well, I don't think they meant it that way, but I think they left space for, like, how do we come back from here? We might not. So we're just going to show you, like, really where we're at and what we're thinking. And in doing that, they put a period on it.
- [44:40]
Jackie Oshry
You know, that it's our time. These are the best days of our lives. Just raise your glasses high. This one's for you tonight.
- [45:01]
Claudia Oshry
It feels right. I like change.
- [45:03]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. Yeah.
- [45:05]
Claudia Oshry
It had to happen.
- [45:06]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. Yeah.
- [45:08]
Claudia Oshry
Are you ready for our next story?
- [45:09]
Jackie Oshry
Yes.
- [45:10]
Claudia Oshry
More marvelous changes in the air amongst love. Haley Steinfeld and Josh Allen got engaged in a rose filled proposal. They shared on Instagram this week that they will be getting married. After getting engaged last week, they shared a photo of them on the water rose. Honestly, I'm seeing a chippa and a lot of. I'm seeing, honestly that this was a wedding and he. There was a collab post and the caption was Infinity 1122 24. Infinity.
- [45:41]
Jackie Oshry
Okay.
- [45:41]
Claudia Oshry
Written by Josh Allen. By the way, he's the lead on the collab. Oh.
- [45:45]
Jackie Oshry
Actually, I feel like it depends on who you follow because mine came up Hailee Seinfeld as the lead.
- [45:49]
Claudia Oshry
This. Yes. Because you follow her. But this is the People magazine embedded. It's Josh.
- [45:57]
Jackie Oshry
I opened my phone and saw this and like, actually made a sound. Like, I was like, ah. Like, I knew these people. I. Did we not talk about this one week ago that they need to get engaged in? Like, the comparisons between them and Taylor and Travis and not then Taylor and Travis both liking this photo, like, giving them ideas and shit.
- [46:13]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah, I think it's all good for Parson Trav, but not to take away from Haley's moment, because, like, I'm really happy for her. She's really defied all the odds, all the Bills fans not liking her. I feel like she honestly, like, kind of put her career on hold for this man, and it's working out.
- [46:33]
Jackie Oshry
Also, I don't know if you saw, like, Josh Allen's ex making, like, a little bit of drama. Somebody, like, had left a comment on her post being like, you need to find, like, another NFL boyfriend now that yours is taken. Something like, obnoxious. And she responded, well, actually, my current boyfriend is the owner of the team, so no more CTE morons. Something like that.
- [46:52]
Claudia Oshry
Oh, my God.
- [46:54]
Jackie Oshry
Wait. And then she deleted the post, deleted the comments, and wrote on her Instagram, sorry, guys, my Instagram's been getting hacked all weekend, like, trying to figure it out. Stay tuned. Okay, like, seriously, lying about your Instagram being hacked or any social media is the biggest loser thing you could do on the planet. And it does remind me, because you.
- [47:11]
Claudia Oshry
Just have a big pair of brass balls to say that, so keep them.
- [47:16]
Jackie Oshry
Do you remember when Casey Musgraves liked a tweet that was, like, derogatory about Taylor Swift and then said her Twitter was acting?
- [47:24]
Claudia Oshry
No.
- [47:25]
Jackie Oshry
I do. It was years ago, before Casey was Casey. Like, it was. It was niche to me because I. I knew Casey, but people didn't know Casey.
- [47:32]
Claudia Oshry
Tell Casey, like, has Taylor Swift, like.
- [47:35]
Jackie Oshry
Chip on her shoulder.
- [47:36]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah, you know, she has that lyric, never part of no Big Machine.
- [47:40]
Jackie Oshry
Don't sound like good old boys club me. Yeah, no, if you're. If you've been present for the lawyer, like, you could find things with Taylor and Kelsey, but. Excuse me, what's her name?
- [47:51]
Claudia Oshry
Casey.
- [47:51]
Jackie Oshry
Casey. Yeah. Lying about your social media is getting hacked. Like, when you said something that you didn't like. It's a move. I respect it, but it's a really bad move. I actually don't respect it.
- [48:03]
Claudia Oshry
And ish. Like, just to go back to the original point, like, is she dating the owner?
- [48:06]
Jackie Oshry
I don't know who she was referring to. She says she. Her current boyfriend owns a team, and so she doesn't have to deal with any CTE idiots.
- [48:12]
Claudia Oshry
Owns a team or 18.
- [48:15]
Jackie Oshry
No.
- [48:16]
Claudia Oshry
Age.
- [48:16]
Jackie Oshry
Not the Bills.
- [48:17]
Claudia Oshry
I thought, like, he owned the Bills. I'm like, damn.
- [48:20]
Jackie Oshry
And I actually watched the Bills game last night. Did you see the bills played the 49ers, and it was, like, 15 inches of snow? Like, it was insane. People couldn't get to their seats. Okay? And the Bills won. And before the game started, I had a thought. And then the more I was watching, and this is going to offend some Bills fans, and, like, seriously, I don't give a fuck. So, like, eat my ass. Because I actually like the Bills. But the Bills, like, have been consistently good for a couple of years. They don't win the super bowl, but, like, they're always good. Especially with Josh Allen. Like, they're good, and they always have, like, a good record, right? Because you play half your games at home, and, like, you're training in the snow, and then you have people from the Miami Dolphins and the people playing in California come to your town, and obviously you win. And I saw this guy holding a sign that had, like, a statistic, and they put it on tv. I'm like, you guys shouldn't be proud of that. It makes us realize, like, maybe you're not that good. You're just good at beating people, like, in the snow. Because this guy held a sign. It was like, we're 10 and one at home since 2020. Like, for the last four years, you've barely lost any games at home. Okay? So, like, that's why you're good, because you trick people to come in, get a roof. Why is there no roof? Like, literally, in Minnesota, where it's always snowing, the Vikings have a roof. Why the fuck would you a, like, subject your players to playing in the snow? Like it's such a bad health risk. And two, like, it's a trick. I bet you if they closed that roof and they all played regular games and there was, like, air conditioning and shit like, that, their record at home would not be so good. No. I don't know if you guys are ready for that conversation, but it's a good point.
- [49:39]
Claudia Oshry
But I guess, like, are they not better football players because they know how to play in all the elements?
- [49:45]
Jackie Oshry
No, that doesn't make you a good football player. Because you know how to, like, slip and slide on snow.
- [49:49]
Claudia Oshry
You like to dip.
- [49:52]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. No, and it's like, maybe if there were other.
- [49:54]
Claudia Oshry
And you know how to pop and lock and. Jackie.
- [49:56]
Jackie Oshry
There are no maybe. Maybe once every couple of years, will it snow during a game? Like, in New York? Like, it's very rare, but it's consistently always. There's like a ton of games every season. I just feel like we're not having that conversation out loud about Buffalo. And now I've said it. Now I've said it.
- [50:12]
Claudia Oshry
I think you raise, like, a really fair point. And they'll never get a roof. Like, they. That's the lack of. They just, like, want to be hard.
- [50:19]
Jackie Oshry
They want to be hard, but there's also, like a not cheating. And I'm not saying it's a strategy.
- [50:25]
Claudia Oshry
I just want to say, like, and you are hard. Bills, like fans. You're hard. You're hard. Like, I'm not a part of this conversation.
- [50:31]
Jackie Oshry
Just get a roof and, like, let's see what happens then. I would love to know, like, what.
- [50:34]
Claudia Oshry
I'm going to station.
- [50:36]
Jackie Oshry
She fades to black. I would just love to know what the stats would be with a roof.
- [50:41]
Claudia Oshry
Okay, I'll call the roofer.
- [50:44]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. Get a quote.
- [50:45]
Claudia Oshry
Get a quote. Never hurts to get a quote, by the way.
- [50:49]
Jackie Oshry
I'm always getting a quote.
- [50:51]
Claudia Oshry
It's sometimes so inconvenient to do all the legwork. And for what?
- [50:54]
Jackie Oshry
Not only that, sometimes it does hurt to get a quote because then you get, like, follow up emails and texts for months on end.
- [51:00]
Claudia Oshry
I got a quote and then I decided not to do it.
- [51:04]
Jackie Oshry
Of course that's what happens. The quote talks you out of the project.
- [51:07]
Claudia Oshry
I got a quote and I decided to do it. And then a few days later I was like, I'm not doing it. And then I had to, like, pay for the, the time that the quote. And it was like, very off book. It wasn't like in the contract. Yeah. He was like, don't you think you should, like, oh, you got measured and.
- [51:23]
Jackie Oshry
No, getting a quote is free.
- [51:25]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah, no, we got you paid with a quote. Claudia was Chucky, you're such a sucker. The biggest. Everybody knows this.
- [51:32]
Jackie Oshry
Oh, my God. If you're looking to swindle someone out of money, like, the vulnerable. She's right here.
- [51:37]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah, no, it's true. I won't.
- [51:39]
Jackie Oshry
You don't pay for a quote. That's like, seriously the whole concept.
- [51:42]
Claudia Oshry
My husband is the opposite of me.
- [51:43]
Jackie Oshry
Like, yeah, YouTube.
- [51:45]
Claudia Oshry
So I am like, this is you. And by the way, he was the one who took it on. And still we had to, like, pay us something. I guess if I, if I gave you more details, maybe you would understand more. But still, it doesn't always, like, not hurt to get a quote.
- [51:58]
Jackie Oshry
Right? You sound like somebody who got hurt. I got terrible I'm so sorry. I feel better.
- [52:04]
Claudia Oshry
Anyways, mazel tobe. To Haley Steinfeld and Josh Allen. I hope they'll be converting. I hope they have a big, beautiful.
- [52:10]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah, yeah.
- [52:12]
Claudia Oshry
She is Steinfeld. Steinfeld. Yeah.
- [52:15]
Jackie Oshry
I never thought of that. So I hope that I'll meet you under the chupa. Do you think Josh Allen will wear yarmulke? Oh, my God. I'm freaking. I was excited about these two before I even realized that. Yeah, Taylor and Travis will be at the wedding. No.
- [52:29]
Claudia Oshry
Well, that will be the big tell. I think that.
- [52:32]
Jackie Oshry
I think Taylor gets invited to a lot of weddings. And unless, like, you're a true ride or die best friend, she's not going to go. She's actually like a distraction. Like, yeah, it's cool to have Taylor Swift to your wedding. No one's looking at you, I guess. Unless Abigail, you know, but if she's.
- [52:46]
Claudia Oshry
Like, not there, then there's beef. And we've long been wondering. So even though they like the posts.
- [52:50]
Jackie Oshry
I'm sorry, There is beef.
- [52:51]
Claudia Oshry
You can like the post of your enemies, but you don't go to their wedding.
- [52:55]
Jackie Oshry
Maybe Taylor Swift stopped being friends with Hailee Seinfeld when Haley Seinfeld released a song, Kind of Love Myself. No, I don't need anybody else because Taylor was like, I can't be friends with somebody who wrote the best song of all time because it'll just make me look bad. Because Love Myself. Actually, her very brief foray into pop stardom is some of the best music. What was that other one in capital letters? Yeah, and then there was one more. When I get chills at night. No, that's Love Myself. Hold on, hold on. No, she really, like, slayed the pop game for 30 seconds.
- [53:29]
Claudia Oshry
She kind of slays everything that she does. She doesn't flop. Oh, let me go with Alesso Florida. Oh, starving.
- [53:38]
Jackie Oshry
Most girls smart and beautiful Most girls work hard we go far Unstoppable I'm obsessed. No, stop.
- [53:49]
Claudia Oshry
I didn't know that.
- [53:52]
Jackie Oshry
Tasty.
- [53:54]
Claudia Oshry
That has over a billion streams.
- [53:56]
Jackie Oshry
Jackie. Both times when I sat down to write my Grammy Award winning songs, toast and 100%, I spoke to the producer and the songwriter and they were like, what's your vibe? Like, who do you. They were like, Jess Glynn. And I literally said, no, Haile Steinfeld. And they were like, oh, okay.
- [54:11]
Claudia Oshry
Most Girls is a toasty anthem.
- [54:13]
Jackie Oshry
Most Girls is to the anthem. And Love Myself is really good. Shut up. Love Myself is really good. But if you do look below the lyrics, like beyond the surface lyrics, it is a song about masturbation. Do you know that?
- [54:28]
Claudia Oshry
Yes. Yes.
- [54:29]
Jackie Oshry
Okay.
- [54:29]
Claudia Oshry
Yes. Are you ready for our next story? Which is a perfect segue because it is about Parson Traveler.
- [54:36]
Jackie Oshry
Okay. Taylor Swift masturbating.
- [54:40]
Claudia Oshry
Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey's family spent special Thanksgiving together for the first time. For the first time in forever.
- [54:50]
Jackie Oshry
Music. They'll be live.
- [54:54]
Claudia Oshry
Taylor and her family, including her mom and dad, hosted Trav and his family members in Nashville, People reported on Sunday. A source told the outlet that Taylor and Travis had a great Thanksgiving together with their families, calling the Tennessee gathering very festive and special.
- [55:09]
Jackie Oshry
Okay, now I'm trying to, like, figure out why Nashville, but I think just logistically, when she has a house in every port, you know, he was going. Trav had to go on. When was his game?
- [55:24]
Claudia Oshry
You're asking the wrong person.
- [55:25]
Jackie Oshry
What day did he play? Whatever. He had to get to Vegas. So I guess maybe her LA home would have been better. But no, it's not.
- [55:31]
Claudia Oshry
The vibe.
- [55:32]
Jackie Oshry
Like, New York makes no sense. Like, it's just too far from Vegas. So Nashville's kind of halfway there.
- [55:37]
Claudia Oshry
And you have to think about. You have to think about vibes. Like, you want to set the right tone. This is a big weekend and you don't want, you know, no offense, the LA attitude.
- [55:47]
Jackie Oshry
No. But in terms of her options, she has an L. A Nashville, New York and Rhode island in America.
- [55:52]
Claudia Oshry
Right. Those four that we know of.
- [55:54]
Jackie Oshry
She was really only going to be LA or Nashville. And I guess, yeah, you have to consider the vibes.
- [55:58]
Claudia Oshry
No Thanksgiving in la. No, it's like a Hallmark movie that's filmed in July. No, thanks.
- [56:03]
Jackie Oshry
And then I think you also have to think about hospitality. Like, everyone's staying at your house. Like, which house has more bedrooms? Now, I don't know the layout of both houses. I would have thought her LA one was bigger. But in terms of bedrooms, like, you have to think about the Kelsey parents and the Swift parents are both divorced. So it's four bedrooms. Just.
- [56:20]
Claudia Oshry
What about Jason, Kylie and the girls? Were they there?
- [56:23]
Jackie Oshry
They were. So it's Jason and Kylie, a fifth bedroom.
- [56:25]
Claudia Oshry
And also easier for the Those Kelsey's to get to. They're not going to la.
- [56:30]
Jackie Oshry
The girl's six. Taylor and Travis, that's seven. Is the brother there with his fiance Austin, for sure. Unless he was with his fiance's family. That's eight. Let's say conservatively. That's before any friends, assistants, Eight bedrooms. So she's got to think which of my houses has a guest bedrooms? I'm sure.
- [56:47]
Claudia Oshry
Most of them, but so definitely national desk, because otherwise they would have done holiday house.
- [56:51]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. Which is such a vibe. And I guess when you have a private jet, like, it doesn't really matter, but it's a little inconvenient, and it's.
- [56:57]
Claudia Oshry
A little chilly up, like, Nashville is probably perfect. It was probably idyllic. I'm sure that, like, every side dish, every trick. I'm sure it was literally like a Hallmark Thanksgiving. If you looked up a textbook picture of a Thanksgiving dinner, you would have seen this.
- [57:12]
Jackie Oshry
Now, this is really behavior of two people who are betrothed. Like.
- [57:16]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah, I think kind of you get engaged and then you do this, and then the baby comes in January.
- [57:21]
Jackie Oshry
I think that it's just really serious type of behavior. And, of course, you can do this with your boyfriend.
- [57:29]
Claudia Oshry
You actually don't do this with your boyfriend. I know.
- [57:32]
Jackie Oshry
Especially your boyfriend. Okay. Let's say you're just, like, people who've decided not to get married. So he's your boyfriend of, like, 15 years. Okay.
- [57:36]
Claudia Oshry
Your life partner.
- [57:37]
Jackie Oshry
Your boyfriend of a year and a half. A year, and give or take a few months. No, it's really serious. It's serious behavior.
- [57:44]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah.
- [57:44]
Jackie Oshry
They started in July. So a year and what, four months? It's serious.
- [57:51]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah, it's serious. I. I think they actually have to be engaged. Otherwise, like, if I have a friend who was doing this with her boyfriend, I'd say that's too much.
- [58:01]
Jackie Oshry
I'd say it's time for him to pop the question.
- [58:03]
Claudia Oshry
Right. Unless he popped the question at Thanksgiving. Right.
- [58:06]
Jackie Oshry
Which people do. They're a better place.
- [58:08]
Claudia Oshry
That's like a ve. And honestly, when you're someone who has it all, like, what's he gonna do? The top of the Eiffel tower? Yawn.
- [58:13]
Jackie Oshry
The more intimate, the better.
- [58:14]
Claudia Oshry
In my home, in my backyard. And maybe he prayed that Chris Lane song where he talks about doing that.
- [58:20]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah.
- [58:20]
Claudia Oshry
When Chris Lane wrote that song for Lauren Lane, like, about how he was proposing to her and then played it in real time.
- [58:25]
Jackie Oshry
Of course I remember.
- [58:26]
Claudia Oshry
I think that's what Travis.
- [58:27]
Jackie Oshry
I remember everything. What kind of music do you think that Taylor and Travis listen to together? Because I think individually, like, they probably have really different tastes in music.
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Claudia Oshry
Lurd listens to everything, so I think she's fine to listen to whatever he wants to listen to. And I think he likes a mix. They probably listen to, like, Post Malone is what they can agree on. He's for everyone.
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Jackie Oshry
She's also very country, and I know he likes Morgan Wallen, so Like, he likes country too. I can't see her liking Morgan Wallen.
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Claudia Oshry
Yeah. But I could also, like, he also likes like hip hop. That's why I'm like, maybe post Malone because he kind of does everything and.
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Jackie Oshry
Yeah, that's actually a really good call.
- [59:05]
Claudia Oshry
She loves him and that's their like move their safe artist.
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Jackie Oshry
Yeah, that's cute. Maybe he came to perform at Thanksgiving.
- [59:13]
Claudia Oshry
Maybe he'll sing her down the aisle.
- [59:15]
Jackie Oshry
She'll totally sing herself. No kidding. Oh, my God.
- [59:21]
Claudia Oshry
Anyways, this is a really major update in it's huge story.
- [59:25]
Jackie Oshry
It's also crazy that we know.
- [59:27]
Claudia Oshry
No, it is crazy that we know. I hope we get some pics.
- [59:31]
Jackie Oshry
It would just simply plots.
- [59:34]
Claudia Oshry
I just want to see like the tablescape even.
- [59:36]
Jackie Oshry
I think if we ever get pics, like, it would be of the tablescape and it would be in three years and we'll be like, oh, that was a Thanksgiving we talked about in 2024.
- [59:42]
Claudia Oshry
I actually think the vibes cultivated. Like we're very folklore and evermore.
- [59:46]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. Taylor is like in. And I mean this in a positive way, like really corny. And she loves like a baked treat and she definitely gets into the theme and the spirit. Like, I love that about her. So she definitely like lays the table very Hallmark. And maybe they got together and watched the Hallmark movie about them that Donna's in.
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Claudia Oshry
She 100 did and they laid the table with the fancy.
- [60:03]
Jackie Oshry
Lay the table with the fancy shit.
- [60:08]
Claudia Oshry
Are you ready for our next story? Our fourth story?
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Jackie Oshry
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Jackie Oshry
Thank you so much, Jacqueline Foley.
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Claudia Oshry
Thank you. So our next story. Typically facial hair would not make news. However, this is sort of on the Internet.
- [65:10]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah.
- [65:11]
Claudia Oshry
Jacob Elordi debuts a shocking new look and fans have mixed reviews. So Jacob Elordi attended the red carpet premiere at the Marrakech International Film Festival in Morocco on Friday for his new film. No one knows what that movie was because no one can stop talking about his.
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Jackie Oshry
No one cares.
- [65:28]
Claudia Oshry
So everyone is saying, like, this is the first time that a beard has not enhanced a man's look. And considering he is like objectively the best looking man of our generation, all is to say, like, it doesn't look good.
- [65:39]
Jackie Oshry
The thing is it looks bad. Like, I don't even think there were mixed reviews because I didn't see anybody saying anything positive like, it's a bad beard. Now I don't know if he's just a person who doesn't favor beards or this is a particularly bad one. It's a little unkempt, It's a little too big. I happen to have really liked it. I like when very good looking people look a little bit ugly. It makes them relatable to me. And I think it's like humbling. And I don't, I don't dislike it. I actually think overall, like his Q score will go up from this, but he does need to get rid of it. But just knowing he's capable of looking ugly, like, that's so human, you know?
- [66:14]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. I also think it's good for his future as an actor because, okay, maybe he's not always gonna play like the teenage heartthrob. Maybe he could play the ugly guy.
- [66:22]
Jackie Oshry
Like, yeah, no, he's a chameleon.
- [66:24]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. Not every person in a movie should look like a movie star. Like they're supposed to be based on real people regulars. So I think this is shows range for him.
- [66:32]
Jackie Oshry
So true.
- [66:33]
Claudia Oshry
But like, if I'm his lady love, shave it.
- [66:36]
Jackie Oshry
Well, if I'm his lady love, I'm just, just, I'm grateful and I'm not going to be complaining.
- [66:40]
Claudia Oshry
Like, hey, is like shave it.
- [66:44]
Jackie Oshry
The thing is, is that if you look at Olivia, she has very beautiful skin. And I. I can't see that, like, rough, coarse beard hair, like, being gentle on her skin. And I worry about exfoliator because her skin is her business, you know? Like, that's how she makes a living.
- [66:57]
Claudia Oshry
I think it's an exfoliator for her. Maybe that's why her skin is so great.
- [67:00]
Jackie Oshry
Maybe, maybe. But you know that there are people who experience. What's that thing called, like, beard burn?
- [67:06]
Claudia Oshry
What is that?
- [67:08]
Jackie Oshry
Oh, man. You don't know. It happened to, like, one of my best friends in college when she was, like, dating her husband, like, anytime.
- [67:12]
Claudia Oshry
Bearded man.
- [67:14]
Jackie Oshry
Well, no. Yeah, I guess if you date a bearded man. Yes. Like, if you kiss them. Like, some people have really sensitive skin. I'm surprised this never happened to you because you have such sensitive skin where you literally break out into a rash. Like, and, like, just from getting kissed.
- [67:28]
Claudia Oshry
So, yes, that happens to me. I get redness, but I wouldn't call it a rash. It goes away and, like, 30 minutes.
- [67:33]
Jackie Oshry
No, this, like, lasts a day or two.
- [67:35]
Claudia Oshry
No, I wouldn't say a day or two.
- [67:36]
Jackie Oshry
Google beard burn. It's, like, on your chin.
- [67:40]
Claudia Oshry
No, it's just I would get irritated for sure.
- [67:44]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. Well, some people have it really bad. It's called beard burn. And that's why, like, their husbands have to, you know, live a beard free life. A beard free life. So maybe we need Olivia to fake a little bit of beard burn and then be like, jacob, you have to shave. Look.
- [67:57]
Claudia Oshry
Or maybe she's, like, wants to keep her man. Maybe. Not that it's hard to date the hottest man alive.
- [68:04]
Jackie Oshry
It is important that we all encourage our husbands at different points, like, to look ugly. Because, like, that's my man. Right?
- [68:10]
Claudia Oshry
And, like, who you're so good for.
- [68:13]
Jackie Oshry
No.
- [68:13]
Claudia Oshry
And it's like, he's gonna want you for his job.
- [68:15]
Jackie Oshry
I guess it's good that Ben doesn't brush his teeth. Yeah. And I'll tell everyone my husband doesn't brush his teeth. Don't kiss him.
- [68:24]
Claudia Oshry
Do not.
- [68:24]
Jackie Oshry
He's gross. Do not come.
- [68:26]
Claudia Oshry
He doesn't brush his teeth.
- [68:28]
Jackie Oshry
That doesn't brush his teeth.
- [68:28]
Claudia Oshry
Funny.
- [68:29]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah.
- [68:30]
Claudia Oshry
Okay, are you ready for our fifth and final story? Some actual, like, heated drama?
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Jackie Oshry
Not the heated drama.
- [68:36]
Claudia Oshry
Not the heated drama for the fifth and final. But, like, Billboard magazine is really going through it right now because they endeavored to do something that nobody fucking asked for, and they're pissing everyone off along the way.
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Jackie Oshry
They are.
- [68:48]
Claudia Oshry
So Billboard magazine has been putting together their top pop stars of the 21st century. And they've been, like, teasing every day, you know, number 10, 9, 8, 7, 6. So first they named Justin Bieber number 8, and Haley Bieber is, you know, throwing their way.
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Jackie Oshry
That wasn't ever confirmed that Haley Bieber's. I thought that. I think that was fake.
- [69:09]
Claudia Oshry
Really?
- [69:09]
Jackie Oshry
The Haley Bieber shade? Because first of all, them naming Justin Bieber number eight is actually, like, extremely generous.
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Claudia Oshry
I feel like that's accurate, Right? Yeah.
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Jackie Oshry
And then the comment that she allegedly left on a billboard post, like, was never seen. I don't know that that comment was real.
- [69:22]
Claudia Oshry
Okay, well, the comment said billboard is a fucking joke, as per usual. But that's just.
- [69:26]
Jackie Oshry
I don't think she wrote that.
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Claudia Oshry
An appetizer to the main dish. It's an anecdote, which is that it's a story about parsley again, because Taylor Swift was crowned number two pop star of the year, which already has people, like, in a tizzy because they think that she should be number one, given all after.
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Jackie Oshry
After they announced number three, everybody realized the only two spots left were Beyonce and Taylor. So they were, like, fighting. I don't remember. It's so of not important. Right. Billboard doesn't know the definition of a pop star because there are people who are left off that list, and then there are people who are on. There's bands on that list.
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Claudia Oshry
Yeah.
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Jackie Oshry
So I guess a band is a pop star. And then that means, like, where Maroon 5 wasn't on the list and there they should have been, like, they. They don't know what a pop star is. And then, like, some people on there weren't pop stars.
- [70:12]
Claudia Oshry
Rihanna was number three. Drake was number four. I don't think I would consider Drake a popular star.
- [70:17]
Jackie Oshry
Correct.
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Claudia Oshry
Pop star is for the girls. I just.
- [70:21]
Jackie Oshry
I agree completely. But I don't know. Was the weekend on there?
- [70:26]
Claudia Oshry
Yes. He's number 18. No, there's a lot of. Of.
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Jackie Oshry
He's like a boy pop star to me.
- [70:30]
Claudia Oshry
Justin Timberlake is also a boy pop star.
- [70:32]
Jackie Oshry
Yes.
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Claudia Oshry
Now, my issue is that he's number 14, which doesn't feel right. But he could be here. That's fine. And Justin Bieber, too, is a boy pop star. Fine.
- [70:40]
Jackie Oshry
Yep.
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Claudia Oshry
Five, Lady Gaga. Six, Britney Spears. Seven. Kanye West. I wouldn't consider a pop star. Eight, Justin Bieber. Nine. Ariana Grande. Ten, Adele. Eleven. Usher.
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Jackie Oshry
Oh, you know, that feels right.
- [70:52]
Claudia Oshry
Really?
- [70:53]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah, he just. He just operates under the radar. That's the thing. But, like, 20.
- [70:57]
Claudia Oshry
Bruno Mars. Are you guys okay?
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Jackie Oshry
Oh, that's wrong. He should be top five.
- [71:01]
Claudia Oshry
He should be taught. He could have been that 10.
- [71:03]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah.
- [71:03]
Claudia Oshry
10 spot. That's wrong also. So, yes, the. It started because then Rihanna. Two spots.
- [71:09]
Jackie Oshry
Everybody started fighting.
- [71:10]
Claudia Oshry
Taylor and Beyonce are left for two in one, and they announced Taylor as number two. So people are upset about that fact just in general. But then they put together this video package of her highlights, and in that video, they included footage from Kanye West's music video where he had created a mannequin of a naked Taylor Swift.
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Jackie Oshry
And this is, like, the thing. This is her Roman Empire.
- [71:35]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. From the famous music video. And it's, like, naked. It's not even really her. But, like, why would they model. It's not Germaine. It's offensive. It was offensive then. It's offensive now. It has nothing to do with all of her amazing accolades. Like, it's seriously so offensive. They got so much backlash for including it. They finally, like, apologized in the middle of the night. But people are not happy about that in particular, and it's kind of, like, ruined this whole fun that they were having.
- [71:59]
Jackie Oshry
It's true. It's true. Now, I really want to talk about two things. One, can we just quickly discuss, like, what you think of them giving Beyonce one and Taylor two? Like, I disagree with that, but I do understand that, like, this is subjective and, like, someone could argue both sides. Like, there are things that Beyonce is definitely better at, and there are things that Taylor is definitely better at. I happen to think the list of things that Taylor is better at is just a little bit longer, which is why she would have been number one. But, like, I'm not mad. Beyonce is one of the greatest. So, like, if she's gonna be one or two, like, I get it. I just. That's. If I made the list, I would have done the opposite.
- [72:32]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. I just feel like you can't call things until they're past. Like, it's so true. We'll see how history remembers all of this and what. What turns out to be the biggest things. Like, I can't call it while I'm in it.
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Jackie Oshry
No, that's a really good point.
- [72:47]
Claudia Oshry
So. And then I think today they announced that Beyonce is number one. But I. That's all sort of been lost in.
- [72:54]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah, their statement was, like, it was an oversight.
- [72:57]
Claudia Oshry
This is what this. They said. We are deeply sorry to Taylor Swift and all of our readers and viewers that in a video celebrating Swift's achievements, we included a clip that falsely depicted her. The publication wrote in apology post shared on X just after midnight on November 28.
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Jackie Oshry
We have removed just after midnight.
- [73:12]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah, they posted it at 1am like they thought they could like get away sly with this apology. And honestly, one thing about the Swifties, they're not dropping anything. And. And they shouldn't drop this like a.
- [73:20]
Jackie Oshry
Dog with a bone.
- [73:21]
Claudia Oshry
They said we have removed the clip from our video and sincerely regret the harm we caused with this error. I just like things like this don't happen accidentally or slip through the cracks. Like it's very intentional and it's so disrespectful.
- [73:32]
Jackie Oshry
It is. And I feel like Taylor went through a period in her life and I don't know if she's still like existing in this space where anytime there was something like within culture that she found offensive, like she would speak on it, like Ginny and Georgia. You know, she called out Netflix for making that joke. And so I think there was a time where she would have spoken on this. I don't think she's really about that life anymore. And also, like, Billboard is such a strategic part. You can't like alienate Billboard, right? If you're an artist like her who cares about all the accolades and the charts, like they are a strategic partner of hers. So I don't know if she would say anything regardless of that, but I do feel like that part of her career where she was like constantly like speaking out is kind of over.
- [74:12]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. I also want to know the criteria for this list because I saw some interesting stats because then the Swifty started arguing why Taylor should have been number one. Beyonce. The most interesting thing that I read was that Lover, it's a five year old album, sold more copies this year than Cowboy Carter album.
- [74:33]
Jackie Oshry
And how do we fact check that?
- [74:34]
Claudia Oshry
I don't know. Didn't you tell me that?
- [74:36]
Jackie Oshry
H. No. How many copies of lovers sold 2024. In the first half of 2024, it sold 208,000 copies. So I guess let's say 410. Okay.
- [74:52]
Claudia Oshry
Okay. Wait, why do I think that though? Like where. I really thought you told me that.
- [74:56]
Jackie Oshry
I never told you that. Copies of Cowboy Harder sold 2024, by the way. Oh, the first album's first sales, first week. I'm sorry, 407,000. So. No, that's not true.
- [75:12]
Claudia Oshry
Oh my gosh. Okay, well then take back what I said. Stricken from the record.
- [75:16]
Jackie Oshry
No. And by the way, I saw people arguing both sides of why it should be Taylor, why it should be. And there are really compelling arguments like, you know, the. The fact that Taylor is the sole songwriter of most of her music and she plays Multiple instruments is like, a huge factor. That. That compared to Beyonce is not also. I mean, if you compare, I think, like, a big thing is like, a being a pop star is like, the dancing, and that's like, Beyonce's like, you know, amazing. And Taylor, you know, she's gotten better, but it's not, like, her thing. Yeah. Also, like, the number of number one hits according to Billboard, how many times you've been number one on the charts with Taylor was so much more. So there are compelling arguments on both sides, and that's why there's really no wrong answer. It's not wrong to say Beyonce's number one. I just would have made Taylor number one.
- [75:57]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. No, it's not wrong to say. And I actually think, you know what, these two fandoms, I just. I don't want any part in this. If it was my list, like, it would have been Kelly Clarkson number one, Little mix number two.
- [76:08]
Jackie Oshry
And by the way, it's important to note that Kelly Clarkson was noticeably absent from this list in general.
- [76:13]
Claudia Oshry
Okay.
- [76:14]
Jackie Oshry
And that's why this list is disgusting. It's actually so true. So why, like, why are us caring? We're giving this list credence that it.
- [76:21]
Claudia Oshry
Doesn'T like a not. Because either you're getting pissed off the Swifties, pissed off the Beehive, or piss off Billboard. Like, like, I'm not part of this.
- [76:28]
Jackie Oshry
What about Clarkson fans call themselves the Clarksons.
- [76:33]
Claudia Oshry
What do we call ourselves?
- [76:34]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah.
- [76:35]
Claudia Oshry
I don't know. You know. You know, I'm the biggest fan of people, but I've never really engaged in, like, stand.
- [76:42]
Jackie Oshry
What's the name of Kelly Clarkson fans Club?
- [76:45]
Claudia Oshry
Kelly Andators.
- [76:47]
Jackie Oshry
Clarksonators Team Casey.
- [76:50]
Claudia Oshry
No, thank you.
- [76:51]
Jackie Oshry
That's bad.
- [76:52]
Claudia Oshry
No, thank you.
- [76:53]
Jackie Oshry
That's the name of, like, her official fan club.
- [76:55]
Claudia Oshry
That's the Kansas City Chiefs.
- [76:59]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. That's not a good one. Sorry.
- [77:01]
Claudia Oshry
It's okay. When you have. That's okay.
- [77:03]
Jackie Oshry
She's not on the list.
- [77:04]
Claudia Oshry
When you have raw talent like that.
- [77:05]
Jackie Oshry
You don't need frivolous things like that.
- [77:07]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. And also, we're like grown women, us Kelly fans.
- [77:12]
Jackie Oshry
It's true. Like, your mothers, your lawyers, your business owners. Like, you're not alters.
- [77:18]
Claudia Oshry
Arianators. Oh, my God. My entire timeline on every platform now.
- [77:22]
Jackie Oshry
Me too.
- [77:23]
Claudia Oshry
Behind the scenes, wicked content.
- [77:24]
Jackie Oshry
And I'm like, I think I might be an alienator. Like, I just am.
- [77:29]
Claudia Oshry
I actually think I might download threads because I'm getting all these, like, threads.
- [77:33]
Jackie Oshry
Really compelling, thought provoking. Yeah.
- [77:36]
Claudia Oshry
Teased in my Instagram where they just cut me off Right before where you would be interested. They're crush. I'm so close. Even one person. I looked up their handle on X because I wanted to see and I couldn't find it. They're about to get.
- [77:51]
Jackie Oshry
Talk about Threads. Like that failure. That was really crazy.
- [77:54]
Claudia Oshry
I didn't download Threads that day. That 1 billion people did. But, like, now I did. These wicked movie reviews that they're leaving me in the lurch might get me.
- [78:03]
Jackie Oshry
No, but if you're writing shit on Threads and not other places, like, do you not want people to see it?
- [78:09]
Claudia Oshry
I don't know. I don't know what's going on. But, like, Threads is trying something. I just want you guys. I'm warning you. They're coming.
- [78:15]
Jackie Oshry
They want you to engage and you're getting dangerously close.
- [78:19]
Claudia Oshry
I'm getting dangerously close to the edge. I am.
- [78:21]
Jackie Oshry
So I have to say, the studio has been a dream. Let's just pray that my. What do you keep looking up at, Jack Self?
- [78:29]
Claudia Oshry
There's a huge. Yeah, huge. Like, I'm literally. I'm a movie star. I. It looks like a movie.
- [78:35]
Jackie Oshry
Jacob Elordi.
- [78:36]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah.
- [78:36]
Jackie Oshry
Are you at the Marrakesh Film Festival?
- [78:38]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah, I actually look like I'm at the Marrakesh Film Festival.
- [78:41]
Jackie Oshry
Will you be in the studio tomorrow?
- [78:43]
Claudia Oshry
No. Oh, no. We'll discuss.
- [78:48]
Jackie Oshry
Oh, am I supposed to know something about tomorrow show?
- [78:50]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah.
- [78:51]
Jackie Oshry
Are you not on?
- [78:52]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah, that is the plan.
- [78:53]
Jackie Oshry
Were you gonna tell me that? It's fine. I'll get Ben to sub for you.
- [78:56]
Claudia Oshry
Remember I kept saying December 4th? December 4th? No, you don't remember. Search December 4in your texts.
- [79:03]
Jackie Oshry
No, what I'm gonna do is text Ben. He's so dramatic. Like, when I make any, like, sort of change to his schedule, honestly, the.
- [79:09]
Claudia Oshry
Studio'S pretty close to.
- [79:10]
Jackie Oshry
Can you host the toast with me tomorrow, question mark. By the way, we can record early. If you want to come back to the studio, you just let me know.
- [79:17]
Claudia Oshry
It's pretty close to the airport.
- [79:19]
Jackie Oshry
Just makes you think. And then Zach has to get the boys ready for the play, not you.
- [79:22]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah, Let me know what Ben says. But, like, we can make. It's always a make it work moment.
- [79:26]
Jackie Oshry
No, Ben. Like, Ben won't be, like, difficult about it, but then he. All he wants to do is come on and promote good guys in Spritz. So he'll be like, I'll make it work.
- [79:34]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. No, he loves it and everyone loves him. So it's like, as much as I'm gonna miss you guys and of course, like, I'd love to see my curtain again. Yeah, it's all to the good.
- [79:42]
Jackie Oshry
I would love to see your curtain again too. So we'll discuss offline. That's our show. You guys, thank you so much. Listening to the toast and Monday morning show we deliver the fastest stories you need to know every Monday through Friday and YouTube. So you're watching us on YouTube. Please feel free to subscribe. Give us video a thumbs up. We're also available as a podcast anywhere podcast can be found. Set Spotify, June stitcher public video by everybody cast box. All the places where we listen to podcast. Find us the toast. Leave a five star review. Do it. I dare you.
- [80:01]
Claudia Oshry
Do it. You guys. It's been so long.
- [80:04]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. About how beautiful, stunning and wick goodly talented we are.
- [80:08]
Claudia Oshry
Always been so wicked coded. That's wicked coded.
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Jackie Oshry
Adele Dasim.
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Claudia Oshry
Love ya.
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Jackie Oshry
Bye.