Kimothée Debut: Thursday, May 8th, 2025

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Toast – "Kimothée Debut" (May 8, 2025)

Hosts: Jackie Oshry & Claudia Oshry
Episode Title: Kimothée Debut
Release Date: May 8, 2025
Description: Take a bite out of The Toast, weekdays with Jackie & Claudia Oshry.

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Introduction

In this episode of The Toast, hosts Jackie and Claudia Oshry dive into a variety of topics ranging from social media dynamics, celebrity gossip, personal anecdotes, to updates on popular reality TV shows. The conversation is lively, filled with personal insights, and peppered with humorous exchanges that reflect their unique chemistry.

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Handling Social Media Backlash

Timestamp: [01:01] - [02:14]

Claudia kicks off the discussion by addressing recent backlash from their audience, particularly referencing "DTQ" (Dear Media's fans). Claudia mentions that critics have temporarily toned down their harshness, but underscores the ongoing tension.

Claudia Oshry:
“We satiated... the DTQ put down their pitchforks.”

Jackie Oshry:
“I hear those complaints... everything's a phase with me. If you don't like this one, just wait for the next one. Like it's kind of like that by now.”
[01:35]

Jackie emphasizes resilience, suggesting that their style and content may evolve over time. Claudia humorously warns that Jackie might start repeating certain phrases more frequently, adding a playful warning to their listeners.

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Khloe Kardashian's Cloud Popcorn

Timestamp: [02:31] - [04:16]

The hosts transition to discussing Khloe Kardashian's new venture into popcorn with her brand "Cloud Popcorn." Claudia shares her initial skepticism but praises the product after trying it.

Claudia Oshry:
“I tasted it... I have so many things I need to talk about this morning.”
[02:31]

Jackie expresses eagerness for her own delivery, mentioning delays on the East Coast while the West Coast enjoys abundance.

Claudia Oshry:
“It was very good.”
[04:08]

They highlight the flavors, packaging, and Claudia's purchasing experience, including a humorous anecdote about Ben mistaking her popcorn for his own.

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Social Media Presence and TikTok Challenges

Timestamp: [04:23] - [18:00]

Claudia and Jackie delve into their experiences with social media platforms, particularly TikTok. Jackie discusses her challenges with TikTok, including being logged out of her account and the difficulties in managing her online presence without it.

Jackie Oshry:
“I just want to say, in all of my love for Paul American, I've been a weekly watcher... It was my sickening TikTok where I have the handle Jackie O... So I can't get back into my TikTok.”
[16:00]

Claudia shares her strategies for managing their social media accounts, including promoting their TikTok and Instagram handles to engage listeners outside the podcast.

Claudia Oshry:
“We're ready. Make sure to follow me on TikTok @GIRL_WITH_noJob.”
[19:40]

They discuss the importance of maintaining their social media presence for engagement and business growth, despite personal preferences and technical challenges.

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Celebrity Gossip: Timothée Chalamet and Kylie Jenner

Timestamp: [26:19] - [31:57]

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to the red carpet debut of Timothée Chalamet and Kylie Jenner at the David D. Donatello Awards in Rome. The hosts analyze their appearance and speculate on the future of their relationship.

Claudia Oshry:
“Kylie looked insane... It's giving spot. First of all, those little details, like, from the female gaze that, like, only a woman writer could write, it was giving.”
[27:02]

They discuss Timothée's appearance, noting his heightened attractiveness when paired with Kylie, and compare their dynamics to past celebrity couples like Kim Kardashian and Pete Davidson.

Jackie Oshry:
“She is insane. Just the way she carries herself.”
[27:38]

Claudia points out the strategic choice of attending a less high-profile award show to make a comfortable debut, reducing public pressure.

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Personal Lives and Pregnancy Updates

Timestamp: [07:46] - [14:17]

Claudia shares personal updates about her pregnancy, discussing concerns regarding her dogs Romeo and Bruno showing signs of illness, leading to worries about potential cancer diagnoses.

Claudia Oshry:
“We think Romeo has cancer... we are never getting a dog, like, ever again.”
[07:58]

Jackie empathizes, mentioning similar concerns and sharing her theories about environmental factors that might affect pets, though Claudia clarifies her focus is on the dogs' health.

The conversation also touches on Claudia's pregnancy, specifically the loss of her mucus plug, and the anxiety surrounding labor and potential C-sections.

Claudia Oshry:
“I haven't... sometimes when I pee in the night, I don't, like, study the bowl and maybe I flushed it.”
[13:11]

Jackie offers supportive remarks, emphasizing a day-by-day approach.

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Cooking and Recipes

Timestamp: [10:43] - [11:33]

Jackie highlights her recent culinary adventures, praising a chunky soup recipe from a magazine and discussing her fondness for cooking. Claudia shares her experience with purchasing maternity wear from the Tick Tock Shop, integrating lifestyle tips seamlessly into their conversation.

Jackie Oshry:
“I made a beautiful soup yesterday... I did a few.”
[10:43]

They exchange tips on favorite recipes and shopping strategies, blending personal stories with practical advice.

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Reality TV and Bravo Show Updates

Timestamp: [38:23] - [44:34]

The hosts provide updates on new and returning reality TV shows, particularly focusing on Bravo's expansions like "Real Housewives of Long Island" and spin-offs such as "The Valley Persian Style."

Jackie Oshry:
“They are introducing a new Real Housewives called Real Housewives of Long Island. Partialish... I always give a new franchise a shot.”
[38:14]

Claudia praises Bravo's strategic expansions into niche markets, expressing excitement for new content that bridges generational gaps and caters to diverse audiences.

Claudia Oshry:
“It's a perfect selection with like a distinct style, a distinct way of life.”
[38:43]

They discuss the cultural impact of shows like "Shots of Sunset," appreciating their depth and relevance in bridging cultural and social gaps.

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Summer House Recap and Relationship Dynamics

Timestamp: [56:00] - [73:56]

A substantial segment is dedicated to recapping the latest episodes of "Summer House," focusing on the tumultuous relationships among cast members like Lexi Wood, Jesse, and Sierra. Claudia and Jackie analyze interpersonal conflicts, emotional confrontations, and the evolving dynamics within the house.

Claudia Oshry:
“Lexi was asked about Brooklyn's family... she said they're just the nicest.”
[57:06]

They critique how Lexi handles confrontations, particularly her response to criticisms and her interactions with other cast members, emphasizing the importance of maturity and emotional intelligence in reality TV.

Jackie Oshry:
“Even in her conversation with Jesse... when she was apologizing...”
[66:16]

Claudia and Jackie express their frustrations with Jesse's behavior and Lexi's responses, advocating for healthier relationship dynamics and more authentic interactions on the show.

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Conclusion

In this episode of The Toast, Jackie and Claudia Oshry offer a blend of celebrity gossip, personal anecdotes, and insightful commentary on reality TV dynamics. Their engaging conversation provides listeners with a comprehensive look into their perspectives on handling social media, maintaining personal relationships, and navigating the entertainment industry. The hosts balance humor with genuine concern, creating a relatable and entertaining listening experience for both regular followers and new listeners.

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Notable Quotes:

• Jackie Oshry:
  “Everything's a phase with me. If you don't like this one, just wait for the next one.”
  [01:35]

• Claudia Oshry:
  “If Romeo has cancer, we are never getting a dog, like, ever again.”
  [07:58]

• Claudia Oshry:
  “Yeah, skip the ads, intros, and outros.”
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• Jackie Oshry:
  “I just want to say, in all of my love for Paul American, I've been a weekly watcher...”
  [16:00]

These quotes encapsulate the hosts' candidness and their ability to infuse personal experiences into broader discussions, offering listeners both entertainment and relatability.

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Final Thoughts:
Jackie and Claudia Oshry successfully navigate a myriad of topics with authenticity and humor, making "Kimothée Debut" a standout episode of The Toast. Their ability to intertwine personal stories with celebrity insights ensures that listeners remain engaged and informed throughout the episode.

Transcript

[Claudia Oshry]

Good morning, girlies. It's the toast.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's Jackson Claude and we're your host.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's your favorite show.

[Jackie Oshry]

The Fast 5 things you need to know.

[Claudia Oshry]

We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast.

[Jackie Oshry]

They sound amazing.

[Claudia Oshry]

Welcome back to the the soap.

[Jackie Oshry]

Welcome to welcome back soap. You dirty girls.

[Claudia Oshry]

You dirty little. Welcome back to the soap. Welcome back to the shows. I was stuttering because. What day is it? Thursday.

[Jackie Oshry]

Thursday.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, wow. I mean, well earned latter half.

[Jackie Oshry]

Lh. LH levels are high.

[Claudia Oshry]

LH levels are high. We are coming to you live from apargy day in New York City and of course from Florida.

[Jackie Oshry]

Party day per usual.

[Claudia Oshry]

Par G day per usual. I have so many things I need to talk about this morning.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, wow. So you want a dilly dally today?

[Claudia Oshry]

Not dilly dally. Well, now that dear Toasters is behind us and we do have summerhouse recap, which the TV recap obviously is going to go off without a hitch. Don't worry. I do feel a little bit more relaxed than yesterday. I also think we satiated. I don't know if you saw the commenters. Like they the DT down their pitchforks for now. No, no. The DTQ put down their pitchforks. And the people who do not like your pick those pitchforks. Right back up. Do you have something to say to your haters?

[Jackie Oshry]

I do, I do. I hear those complaints and all I have to say is.

[Claudia Oshry]

Great response.

[Jackie Oshry]

Thanks. Like, you guys, everything's a phase with me. If you don't like this one, just wait for the next one. Like it's kind of like that by now.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's a wave. You just gotta ride it out, you guys.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, like. And like, I didn't even realize how much I was saying and now I'm so aware of it. So hopefully I don't start saying it more. But like, funny. You'll be okay, everyone.

[Claudia Oshry]

You guys, she might start saying it more.

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't want to threaten you, but just roll with it. You know, like, imagine like everything that came out of your mouth. Someone was like, I don't like that one. I don't like that one. And I don't like that one.

[Claudia Oshry]

No. As professional talkers.

[Jackie Oshry]

Free to be me. Like, are you guys crazy?

[Claudia Oshry]

It's like that song Free to be me.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's like that song.

[Claudia Oshry]

So that's actually not what I wanted to talk about, but it did come up nicely.

[Jackie Oshry]

But the DTQ has been satiated until Tuesday. Like every Tuesday is Groundhog Day. Stay with them. And like all the goodwill we've earned will mean nothing on Tuesday if we don't hit him with another DT3.3.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's not what I wanted to talk about. The first thing I wanted to talk about was I got cloud popcorn cloud with a K. Of course. It was. It was delivered and I tasted it. We talked a lot about, extensively, I would say, about Khloe Kardashian's new popcorn protein company. And I was a little skeptical. I. I was. You guys know me. And I wanted to see, first of all, so important how it tastes. I got three flavors. They come in three flavors, but I only tried the white cheddar, which I had heard was the best. And also what. I'm going to open three bags of popcorn. That's just way stale.

[Jackie Oshry]

They'll all go stale.

[Claudia Oshry]

They'll all go stale. They also sent one to Ben. Ben. It arrived. Ben was like, oh, this is for me. I'm like, no, it's not. He saw like food. He's like. He thinks he's like the food influencer in the house. I'm like, no, that's mine back.

[Jackie Oshry]

But there were two.

[Claudia Oshry]

There were two. Yeah. One was his. Let me tell you what's delicious, actually delicious. And I'm not in a place right now where like, I'm needing protein snacks. Like, that's just. That's. That's another Turdy's time. This is not current Turdy. Current Turdy needs like mid fat snacks at a cupcake for dinner last night. But I could see a time in my life where I would be munching on cloud popcorn. And it was very good.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay, good. I'm waiting for my delivery. Should be any day now. We got delayed here on the east Coast. Like everyone out west eating their clouds, like gorging on it.

[Claudia Oshry]

PR went out like a second wave on in New York.

[Jackie Oshry]

I heard that New York was delayed. I actually did hear that from an influencer. I mean, for a insider. And I'm actually. Let me tell you who told me that. Okay.

[Claudia Oshry]

I know. I know who it is. So just.

[Jackie Oshry]

You know who it is. How do you know?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Because I just have a feeling. Does her name start with an A?

[Jackie Oshry]

No. Oh, okay.

[Claudia Oshry]

It was very good. I'm excited for you to try it. Maybe you try a different flavor even though it's like widely eating all three.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like tonight.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, tonight if it arrives, like, I'm.

[Jackie Oshry]

Gonna turn on what's Paul American new episode drop Sat down with my cloud popcorn in my prime.

[Claudia Oshry]

Jackie, are we gonna start updating the weekly Schedule to include Friday's Paul American recap.

[Jackie Oshry]

I just want to say, in all of my love for Paul American, I've been a weekly watcher. I rarely actually watch it on Thursday nights.

[Claudia Oshry]

I'm not watching it tonight. It's something I enjoy so much. Ben enjoys it. We need to save it for, like, a Saturday.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's like, it's a treat and I have to pack. I have so much to do before I come to New York to see my swirl.

[Claudia Oshry]

Jax is coming to nyc. Oh, that's exciting. I also thought you were coming a day earlier. So I've been, like, preparing all week. I'm like, oh, my God, she's coming. And turns out you're coming the day after. So I, like, my whole weekend just got up. So I'm sorry.

[Jackie Oshry]

But we will have a lot of fun when I do arrive.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, we will. And that's a threat.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. So I have a lot to do. So Paul American, like, might be my treat for a job well done.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay. I could also. We could watch it together. You want to come over on Sunday? Zach and Ben, like, we could literally have the whole family.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, let's do it.

[Claudia Oshry]

They will love it.

[Jackie Oshry]

You would love it.

[Claudia Oshry]

Speaking of Zach and Ben, more specifically, Ben, huge night last night for the Brunson boys, when not only do they win and I, like, I've been pretty hard on basketball because I'm really into sports. Like, I'm very sporty. Basketball is definitely the most boring one. Like, it's seriously not a cool sport.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, run up and run down and run up and run down.

[Claudia Oshry]

And they, like, are embarrassing themselves. Like, they get like a little bit of a shove and they fall on the floor. They call it like a flop or whatever. You make yourself look so dramatically injured so that you get the foul and it's like, oh, okay, is this Macbeth or basketball? Like, they're being so dramatic. Yeah, it actually gives me the ick.

[Jackie Oshry]

Do it. Last week that one went viral.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

And it's really icky.

[Claudia Oshry]

LeBron is also, like, known. It's. It's a good skill to have. You're getting more points because you're getting the free throws. But, like, when you have to do.

[Jackie Oshry]

What about your manhood?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, right. What if I do the art of flip flopping? Like, it's actually disgusting looking. And so these are like big macho men. And I just see that. I'm like, get up.

[Jackie Oshry]

I feel like, have some respect. Don't do it. Only the ones I would have married in a long term relationship. They know their wife has seen them through worse. But, like, if you're trying to get a lady, like, get up, take it on the chin.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's humiliating. So I found basketball to be, like, really boring recently, but it was a fabulous game. And what I'm learning is, like, in the playoffs, so you play, like, two games at home, two games away, and you're expected to win your home games. So when you lose one, it's like, a really big deal. The Celtics now lost both, which is really crazy because they're just like, a better team. They're higher ranked. So Ben was freaking. I was actually, like, really into it last night. The Brunson boys were popping the off, and it was kind of a thrill, I'm not gonna lie. And I was being such an active participant in my husband's life.

[Jackie Oshry]

Is he going to the games at msg?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes. I told him to go this weekend because you'll be in town to babysit me, even though that was what I thought you were coming a day earlier. So, like, I did, like, prematurely tell Benny. I'll figure it out. But. But with you in town for the next couple of weeks and, like, obviously when you come to town, like, Ben doesn't exist, right? And it's like I have my. My nephews. Like, I have a lot of responsibilities.

[Jackie Oshry]

Uncle Ben, like, unless he wants to be an uncle. Like, husband duties, gone, correct. Brother in law, gone.

[Claudia Oshry]

If you love something, set them free. So I told him he could go to the next two games, but he is. You know, every time I look over at his phone, he's either in the Brunson boys chat or on StubHub. It's like, he's like, you have to check every 30 seconds. You never know.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, I'm sure it'll work out for him. Those things do work out for Ben, for Ben and Ben alone.

[Claudia Oshry]

So it was a thrill. Although there was the third thing I wanted to talk about. A little bit of a dent in our evening, because Ben and I did discover. We think we're pretty sure Romeo has cancer. Now, that's. Obviously.

[Jackie Oshry]

You guys are pretty sure that every dog has cancer. You've tried. You know what convinced me? Bruno has cancer.

[Claudia Oshry]

I. I do think Bruno has cancer, but let me just say that.

[Jackie Oshry]

And that was over a year ago when you made your prognosis.

[Claudia Oshry]

And I just want to be clear.

[Jackie Oshry]

Still jumping on the bed.

[Claudia Oshry]

I just want to be clear. From the first time that Theo started acting weird till the death, like, it was over a year, we couldn't figure out what was wrong with him. So it starts out, like these little weird things that Bruno was doing and last night, Romeo was doing. So I. Me and Ben were freaking because this whole Theo thing started. He wouldn't jump up on the bed. He was, like, afraid of our bed.

[Jackie Oshry]

And.

[Claudia Oshry]

And then he would go and hide in our bathroom. We were like, oh, he's having some behavioral issues, and they thought it was arthritis. It was, like, a long journey to figure out that he was actually just dying of cancer. Last night, Romeo was, like, sleeping on the floor. Okay. Like, what are you. And then, no, it's not. Romeo's not a dog. Romeo's not a dog. And then he was hiding, hiding in the bathroom. So me and Ben were like, oh, he's cancer. And we said to one another, like, if Romeo has cancer, we are never getting a dog, like, ever again. Like, because it would be so right. Like, it would be. It's us. Like, we're killing these dogs. Like, what is it?

[Jackie Oshry]

No, I, I. That's not even why. I think that's fair. I just think, like, you can't go through this again.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, no.

[Jackie Oshry]

When you start your family, like, to have, like, it's just trauma, upheaval and trauma. Yeah. Like, you're not doing it again.

[Claudia Oshry]

No. So TBD on if his actual prognosis is cancer. But, like, I'm telling you, I'm sniffing some things out, and it's giving cancer.

[Jackie Oshry]

Well, keep us posted. I have some theories.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay. I would love to hear them.

[Jackie Oshry]

I just. We'll talk offline, you know, because they're not fully fleshed out, so I don't want to sound, like, crazy.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay. You're a Romeo conspiracy theorist is what you're saying.

[Jackie Oshry]

I think it's bigger than Romeo.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, you think it's the elements. You think New York City's making him sick? Well, that wouldn't explain Bruno's cancer. If we don't laugh, we'll cry.

[Jackie Oshry]

Do you think Magnolia has cancer?

[Claudia Oshry]

No. That's okay. That's what I said to Ben last night. That's so funny that you said that, because I was like, what is it with, like, these dogs? Like, that we get, like, they all have cancer. And Ben was like, yeah, but we also get, like, the most special dogs. I'm like, it's so true. Magnolia is gonna live forever. Which was mean, but hysterical stuff. Hysterical? No. And you know what? Magnolia will live forever.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, Magnolia's got something, but it's not. It's not what Theo, and it's not cancer. Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. So that's what's going on in my home. What's going on in yours?

[Jackie Oshry]

Well, I made a beautiful soup yesterday.

[Claudia Oshry]

I saw a chunky soup.

[Jackie Oshry]

It was very exciting. I literally had six bowls, like breakfast, lunch and dinner. And it was exactly what I wanted.

[Claudia Oshry]

Good, because it's the one you got. Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, so I was very happy about it. I made it from the magazine that I bought at the grocery store. I always buy those magazines. Made a few. I do.

[Claudia Oshry]

I do wonder who buys those.

[Jackie Oshry]

They're so fabulous. They're not as heavy as a cookbook.

[Claudia Oshry]

And they're not like typical magazines. It's not like people in. Okay.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, it's like all recipe. They're made by allrecipes.com.

[Claudia Oshry]

They'Re also, like, celebrity ones, too.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, yeah. Like Joanna Gaines, like, has a magazine. No, this is just like a recipe magazine. And whenever I see a good one, I pick it up and I add it to my cook. Like, it's brilliant.

[Claudia Oshry]

Archie.

[Jackie Oshry]

So I really loved my soup. I'm thinking, I mean, I have enough for today, but also I saw a pasta fajul that looks good.

[Claudia Oshry]

Pasta fajo, yeah. Oh, speaking of pasta fischol, Something I like, didn't even talk about, but two nights ago, me and Ben started the Sopranos.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, that's weird.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, I know. I just, like, I'm in this. Ever since Paul American ended and after Desperate Housewives, we've just kind of been untethered.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

And I know that this era of my life coming up. I need a big, chunky show.

[Jackie Oshry]

Claudia, you know what you should watch? It's not going to be a big chunky.

[Claudia Oshry]

I know what you're gonna say. Love Island.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, it's not a big chunky show, but Jake Paul.

[Claudia Oshry]

Sure, sure. But that's.

[Jackie Oshry]

What's it called?

[Claudia Oshry]

Untold.

[Jackie Oshry]

Untold. Jake Paul. And you know that put me into labor.

[Claudia Oshry]

Did it?

[Jackie Oshry]

Well, I went into labor the night that I watched it.

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, I kind of, like, want to go into labor, but, like, I also don't.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's not really convenient for you. But just know, like, if you're trying, like some people say, like, walk on the sidewalk, eat spicy food, have sex, watch until.

[Claudia Oshry]

Watch Untold. It's that disturbing.

[Jackie Oshry]

But you love him. Like, you'll learn so much more about him.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes, but that doesn't solve my current issue, which is like, I need a big chunky show to sink my teeth into for the next, like, month. I thought the Sopranos would do it. And we're actually enjoying it. It's just moving. Very. Like, tell me how I'm on episode two. I've been watching for three days.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, it's thick. Might I suggest, once again, Royal Pains?

[Claudia Oshry]

No, that's. It's. It doesn't feel like it's going to help me.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay, so you're just being an A sager.

[Claudia Oshry]

Sure, sure. Yeah, let's. Let's go with that.

[Jackie Oshry]

Classic.

[Claudia Oshry]

And then I went to the doctor yesterday and I had lots of questions about my mucus plug. He says it's possible that I've already lost it, but he knows that, like, I'm on the lookout for it.

[Jackie Oshry]

You haven't.

[Claudia Oshry]

I haven't. Except, like, sometimes when I pee in the night, like, I don't, like, study the bowl and maybe I flushed it.

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't think you did.

[Claudia Oshry]

I don't think I did either. There was, like, the incident, like, a week or two ago. No. How many weeks ago was that? Two or three.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, sounds right.

[Claudia Oshry]

Where I actually called you with my toilet paper and of course, sent a photo. Dr. Fox, he said that could have been it.

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't think it was.

[Claudia Oshry]

He also said it could still be coming.

[Jackie Oshry]

I think it's coming. Did you ask him what happens if you get a C section and you haven't lost your mucus plug yet?

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, no. Oh, can they fish it out for me?

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, when will it come out right.

[Claudia Oshry]

If I do end up getting the C section? I didn't ask that.

[Jackie Oshry]

I didn't ask something out we need to know.

[Claudia Oshry]

It is something that we need to know. But I'm not living my life like I'm getting a C section. You know what I mean?

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, that's good.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, it's all very much up in the air right now.

[Jackie Oshry]

Well, one day at a time.

[Claudia Oshry]

Truly.

[Jackie Oshry]

Truly.

[Claudia Oshry]

What else can I tell you? You seem so interested in everything that's going on in my life. There's so much going on.

[Jackie Oshry]

There's only one other thing that I'm interested in, and it's your adorable dress.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, my God. I'm so glad you asked, actually.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, are you a Victoria's Secret model?

[Claudia Oshry]

It's a romper.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's so cute. Where's it from?

[Claudia Oshry]

I'm so glad you asked. I've hit a new low, obviously, in looking for maternity wears that won't break the bank. That, like, our. Like, these clothes are disposable because I sweat in them.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, I wear them in a month.

[Claudia Oshry]

Correct. I'll give you three guesses. You're never gonna guess.

[Jackie Oshry]

Give Me a clue. Just give me one clue so that I know which path to go down.

[Claudia Oshry]

I bought it on my phone.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, on a website.

[Claudia Oshry]

Teemu, you're so close.

[Jackie Oshry]

She in?

[Claudia Oshry]

You're getting further away.

[Jackie Oshry]

Fashion nova.

[Claudia Oshry]

No. Okay, I'll tell you.

[Jackie Oshry]

Amazon.

[Claudia Oshry]

The Tick Tock Shop.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, I was never gonna guess that.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, you weren't. The Tick Tock Shop. It came up and I was like, okay, I'm gonna buy this romper. And I bought two. Now, not the making maternity clothes in sizes small through large. Like, that's crazy.

[Jackie Oshry]

Why? But there are people who are literally just got a belly and they would be a small.

[Claudia Oshry]

I'm sorry. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with a small. You need XL. I'm saying where XL? I need 4x now, like, especially this. Supposed to be, like, oversized. I thank God not to brag. Like, I did fit into the large.

[Jackie Oshry]

It looks like it fits perfect.

[Claudia Oshry]

It doesn't, but thank you. Yeah, I bought something on the Tick Tock shop. And honestly, 10 out of 10 experience. This is actually the second thing I bought on the Tick Tock Shop.

[Jackie Oshry]

Well, what, you buy that humping saddle?

[Claudia Oshry]

No, that was Instagram reels. I bought a T shirt with Charlie from Twilight on it. It was, you know, those, like, old school, like, band T shirts.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, I know. I've seen.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. I bought it for our mom because she's obsessed with Charlie from. So that's actually my. It's my second purchase. I didn't want to be dishonest.

[Jackie Oshry]

So you're two for two.

[Claudia Oshry]

I'm two for two. Even though I don't want to engage with the Tick Tock shop because I don't want Tick Tock to, like, think that it's working because they keep her phone.

[Jackie Oshry]

Then, like, they keep pushing the Tick.

[Claudia Oshry]

Tock Shop on us. It's so annoying.

[Jackie Oshry]

You need a separate account. Like, on your iPad.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Like, you.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, I don't even have one on my iPad anymore.

[Claudia Oshry]

She's free.

[Jackie Oshry]

I wonder if I do. Actually, I did. And then what happened? Let's see.

[Claudia Oshry]

I feel like we've all collectively given up on, like, trying to get Jackie to re.

[Jackie Oshry]

Well, the real reason why. Even if they could. If they sort out their privacy issues.

[Claudia Oshry]

Their national security issues.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yes. Oh, there's my sister.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, no, there's not. Did you get logged out?

[Jackie Oshry]

So there wasn't my sister.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay.

[Jackie Oshry]

But even if they sort out their privacy issues, two issues remain. One, I really don't want to devote more time to my phone. So, like, I would have to fair deal with that. 2. I. I got logged out of my tick tock permanently. Like my sickening tick tock where I have the handle Jackie O, like, is connected to my college email that they disconnected. So I can't get back into my TikTok.

[Claudia Oshry]

If you guys were ever alive or present for the Jackie O TikTok era, it was so brief. She was doing dances. It was before she became a mom. You lived in that apartment with Zach. Like, I remember I was in a couple of them. You had a bob.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, I didn't.

[Claudia Oshry]

Now you had like, you had short.

[Jackie Oshry]

Hair, shorter than I do now, but.

[Claudia Oshry]

Not a bob, like shoulder length.

[Jackie Oshry]

It was 2019, 2020. No, no, no, it wasn't. I'm sorry. I wish it was okay for the law. I do for the law.

[Claudia Oshry]

But if you were there, like it was the 80s, you know, it was.

[Jackie Oshry]

It was a, it was a time like she was crushing trends. She was having fun. And it's kind of.

[Claudia Oshry]

She did go viral, like twice.

[Jackie Oshry]

I did. It was kind of like perfect. Like now if I came back to that, like literally five years have passed. It's two different people. Like here, it's.

[Claudia Oshry]

I just want to say, like a piece of history. If you got access to the account and posted a TikTok, like, I'm telling you, it would go viral.

[Jackie Oshry]

Well, I'm going to work on.

[Claudia Oshry]

I'm going to work. I'm getting access to your account.

[Jackie Oshry]

You can work on it. And if you do, like, I will log into it on my iPad.

[Claudia Oshry]

You know what? I. I know a guy.

[Jackie Oshry]

But I want you to know, like, I have genuinely tried. Maybe now we're more connected. Maybe there's more like TikTok reps that are looking to get premium podcast hosts back on TikTok after they lost access.

[Claudia Oshry]

When you reach a certain level of like TikTok fame, you get like a TikTok manager. It's someone from TikTok who's like your point of contact. They invite you to events, they help you with any sort of tech issues. And I have one. I just like never reach out because I'm like such a low maintenance client. But I'll be like, listen, we need to get this handled for my swirly sister.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. But then I also have so much peace not being on TikTok. Like, you tell me about all this stuff, like all this drama that's going on with other people, like with us, and it. I literally doesn't exist to me. And it's a beautiful way to live And I don't want to, like, get into the gutters. I really don't. And I also sometimes feel like you'll send me a TikTok and I like, really want to comment on it, but I can't. And it's not unreal, so I can't. And like, I feel like I would start stuff in the comments.

[Claudia Oshry]

We're ready.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's not what I need in my life. But, like, I see some of these TikToks and I'm ready to rip them a new one.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes. There's a lot of, like, brain dead folk on the platform. Excuse me, it's brain dead. Who could use big sis guidance, you know, like some tough love from Jackie.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, no, I know. But then all the other commenters would, like, flood in and then I would be involved in all this drama. Like, I think I would get involved in too much drama, honestly.

[Claudia Oshry]

And you know what? It's kind of nice that whenever anyone's like, looking for anything toasty on TikTok, they're forced just, just to engage with me. So I'll stop pushing the issue. I think it's good for my engagement.

[Jackie Oshry]

I think so too. And, like, you get to post all of our viral reels.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, it's true. It's true. Make sure to follow me on TikTok @GIRL WITH no Job. The toast is also on Tik Tok. The toast pod.

[Jackie Oshry]

The toast pod. That's what I just got logged out of. And make sure to follow me on Instagram. Jackie Ashe. It's a fun time. It's a fun.

[Claudia Oshry]

And you can also follow me on Instagram too, if you wanted.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, Yeah. I feel like you're good on followers. Like.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, no, I don't actually. I feel really good about where I'm at. No, I don't. I don't. I'm good. I'm good. Follow Jackie.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, you have a lot of followers on Instagram.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, I do. Thank you for saying that.

[Jackie Oshry]

I mean, I feel like we forget that sometimes.

[Claudia Oshry]

I'm constantly forgetting. Oh, man. Also, wait. Something so funny. Milestone yesterday. We always drive to the doctor. So when we were driving home, I was like, ben, you know, our car seat just arrived. Maybe we should just like put it in the car, you know? And he was like, okay. Ben like, hates when I want to, like, do projects. So of course, if we're going to put the car seat and we got to clean out the car, so I'm like on the side of the road huffing and puffing. Me and Ben are Fighting because I dropped these like spritz buckets and they cracked. Like, and I'm yelling at Ben because I'm like, this is how you treat our car? Like, it was seriously, like one of our lowest moments as a couple. Sweating, fighting. This girl comes out to me. I love the toast. I was like, oh my God, thank you so much. And she was like really, like, excited. Like, wanted to chat. Like, she couldn't have found me in a lower moment, like in my marriage, in my personal life. Like, oh, and there's trash everywhere, all over. Oh, and I had just spilled this huge bag of Romeo's food. Our car was like such a dub. And she's like asking me like, questions. Should we take a picture? I'm like, oh my God, of course. I'm seriously, like, I'm sweating, I'm crying. Ben is so mad at me. I'm so mad at Ben. There's shit all over the street and we're trying to install a car seat. Like, seriously, that girl, like, she managed to find me at one of the lowest moments of my life.

[Jackie Oshry]

Do you have a Dochi moment?

[Claudia Oshry]

No, I'm a delight.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, okay. That's good.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Did you as Dochi's response?

[Jackie Oshry]

The story? Yes, we're following the story closely here. Great, great segue at the toast. And now without further ado, dah doo da doo. It is time for the Fast 5 stories that you need to know.

[Claudia Oshry]

And the Fast 5 stories that you need to know are brought to you by Sports society. Which is a perfect segue since I just broke all their merchandise in my car yesterday. So Spritz society is officially nationwide. It's an award winning canned cocktail company founded by us, the swirlies for the swirlies. Their cocktails are wine based, colorful, effervescent and absolutely delicious. We won USA Today's best canned cocktail three years in a row now. So they're really delicious. And we've recently just done this huge new, not like a launch, but I want to say like a rebrand. We are now available and in targets nationwide. All the targets that sell liquor. So that's over 40 states. You can now get delivery in some cities from our website in under 60 minutes. We're on gopuff. We increased our can size.

[Jackie Oshry]

Cans are bigger. Your cans is sick.

[Claudia Oshry]

Your cans look sick. Is that a story?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yes.

[Claudia Oshry]

Now we have 12oz cans. Our flavors are new and improved. We've got pink lemonade, lemon, iced tea pickle, which is like our most controversial flavor to date and peach. They are 4.5 ABV. The cans are 12 ounces. They're made with crisp white wine and only 120 calories. So spritz Society is now available everywhere. I've been loving seeing everyone tagging us in all their like Targets. I didn't realize how many like people go to Target every single day. You know, it's like they were already there and now they're just buying Spritz. It's really nice. So go to spritz society.com/toast to be able to find a store near you. Be sure to follow us on Instagram at Spritz for all of our exciting announcements, upcoming events and giveaways. It's been such a fabulous month for Spritz. So glad everyone is finally getting their hands on it if they have been able to try it up until this point. You can order from our website. You can head over to Spritz. We're also in HBS. We're in Jewel, Osco, Harris, Teeter, Gopuff and Spritz society.com Today's episode is also brought to you by Haya. Hi Hi. Hiya. Typical children's vitamins are basically candy in disguise. They're filled with two teaspoons of sugar, unhealthy chemicals and other gummy additives that growing kids should just not be eating. And that's why Haya was created a super powered chewable vitamin. While many Kids vitamins have 5 grams of sugar, they are known to contribute to a variety of health issues. Juice Haya is made with zero sugar and zero gummy additives, but it tastes great and it's perfect for even the pickiest of eaters. Haya is here to fill the most common gaps in modern children's diets to provide the full body nourishment that kids need with a yummy taste that they love. It's formulated with the help of pediatricians and nutritional experts. It's pressed with a blend of 12 organic fruits and veggies and then it is supercharged with 15 essential vitamins and minerals including vitamin D, B12C, zinc, folate and so many others to help support immune system, energy, brain function, mood, concentration, teeth, bones and more. I feel like a lot of parents worry about what their kids eat and this just something that you can do every day. It's like a really low lift thing just to give you peace of mind, making sure they're getting their vitamins, their nutrients and all their vitamins are non gmo, vegan, dairy free, allergy free, gelatin free, nut free. So if your kid has any sort of allergy issues, it's pretty much free of most crapola. It's designed for kids to and up. It's sent straight to your door. Parents have one less thing to worry about. I've seen it in action. My niece Michaela is obsessed. The bottle's really parchy too. It's like a toy. They put stickers on it. It's really fun. And we've worked on a special deal with Haya for their bestselling children's vitamin. Receive 50 off your first order when you go to hyahealth.com toast this deal is not available on their regular website, so go to H I Y A H E-A-L-.com toast to get your kids the full body nourishment that they need to grow into healthy adults. Today's episode is also brought to you by Quince. Once the temperatures start rising, you you can have a realization of sorts. You know you're back in the same rotation of worn out clothes. Same tank tops, same shorts, same everything. So if you're looking to give your daily uniform an upgrade, highly recommend you checking out Quince. Their pieces are easy, they're elevated and they somehow make you feel more put together without even trying. And if these are going to be things that you wear season after season, you want them to be made well. And that's what really separates Quince from like all other shopping destinations is that their quality is really unmatched. So they have 100% European linen shorts and their pricing is insane. So those started just $30. They have really luxe swimwear, Italian leather platform sandals, and so much more. The best part of shopping at Quince is everything at quince is priced 50 to 80% less than what you'd find at similar brands. They do that by working directly with top artisans and they cut out the middlemen. So then Quince is going to give you luxury without the markup. They, of course, only work with factories that use safe, ethical and responsible manufacturing practices and premium fabrics and finishes. Everything I've ever gotten from Quince is like my favorite piece of clothing that I've owned. And that's been the hard part about being pregnant is I can't wear any of my Quinn's clothes. But like I've had them for years, I wear them season through season. Whether it's a cashmere sweater, a pair of trousers, a cardigan, it's made super well. So treat your closet to a little summer glow up with quince. Go to quince.com toast for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns. That's Q U I N C E.com/toast to get free shipping and 365 day returns. Quince.com toast.

[Jackie Oshry]

Thank you. Turd.com toast.

[Claudia Oshry]

You're welcome.

[Jackie Oshry]

Our first story, you guys, the story we've been waiting for. Timothy Chalamet holds Kylie Jenner close in a red carpet debut after two years of dating.

[Claudia Oshry]

So no way has it been two years.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's been almost two years of dating. They attended the David D. Donatello Awards in Rome on Wednesday, holding hands as they made their way to the step. And repeat once on the carpet. They struck various poses together. He wrapped his arm around Kylie's waist as she held her hand up to touch.

[Claudia Oshry]

Giving pregnancy announcement.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, it was a little bit, but it was just giving, like, so comfortable. They knew what they were gonna do. I.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'm so thrilled that they've made their red carpet debut because I feel like the first one is the hardest. And now it'll be, like a normal thing for them to walk red carpets. And we'll have that. So random. The David did Hanatello Awards.

[Claudia Oshry]

So we thought it was gonna be the Met Gala. We thought it was gonna be the Oscars. No, it's the David Donatello Awards. I don't know how we missed that one. But you're right. It actually makes sense because there's really been, like, a lot of pressure put on it. I didn't realize it had been too.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's why I put all the pressure on them. I'm not.

[Claudia Oshry]

The Internet, too. The Internet, too, was, like, waiting. And so for it to be this, like, random award show is probably way less stakes. And it's actually a really smart thing for them to do.

[Jackie Oshry]

It is, like, it's a great rehearsal for the next big one.

[Claudia Oshry]

She looked insane.

[Jackie Oshry]

She looked insane. She is insane. Just the way she, like, carries herself.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

And it's funny because when you watch Kardashians, like, she's actually has a lot of insecurities. But when I watch her out in the world, like, this is the most confident woman in the world. And to me, that makes her the most beautiful person, even though she is also the most beautiful. But plenty of girls are beautiful, but they walk around hunched, like, skin scared. Don't look at me.

[Claudia Oshry]

And for the first time, maybe not the first time, but, like, I say this every time we see, like, a really cute video or photo of them, like, he becomes way more attractive to me. I've never Been in the boat of people who, like, thought that he was an attractive person. I've actually always been confused by him and his looks and his ability to pull these insanely beautiful women. And watching Kylie just, like, leaned up against him and his, like, very casual hand around her hip, like, it was giving spot. First of all, like, those little details, like, from the female gaze that, like, only a woman writer could write, it was giving. That she looked fudgeing insane. And I was like, oh, okay, he's cute. Like, he is cute. I still don't think he's, like, the hottest man who ever lived, but I just like when a woman lifts up a man, you know?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. I have to be honest. I did not look at him. I have not looked at him. I'm looking at, like, her and the figure behind her.

[Claudia Oshry]

The side boob is insane.

[Jackie Oshry]

The side that everything. And I just want to say she's a tall girl, and, yeah, she's wearing heels and standing up straight. And he's taller than her, which I do. He just reads small to me because he's skinny. So seeing him next to her standing up, like, in full glamour, makes him look like a big, tall, attractive man.

[Claudia Oshry]

So I had a similar thought about his height, but it's. You did say one thing incorrectly. She is not standing up straight. She is leaning a little bit. I feel if she was standing up completely straight, she would be a little bit taller than him in heels.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, but. Okay, well, this picture where they're walking to the carpet holding hands, she is one step behind him and actually makes him look so tall.

[Claudia Oshry]

She's five six. He's five ten.

[Jackie Oshry]

She's five six. Sure.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's what Google. That's what Google says. Shorty. How shorty gets out Kendall.

[Jackie Oshry]

I thought they were, like, the same height.

[Claudia Oshry]

Kim is 5:2. Kendall's 511.

[Jackie Oshry]

Kendall is. When I see Kardashians, one of them doesn't look five inches taller. Like, between Kylie and Kendall.

[Claudia Oshry]

Let me just, like, look up a picture of them, but you never know if they're wearing heels. Remember their clothing company, Kendall plus Kylie?

[Jackie Oshry]

It was good stuff.

[Claudia Oshry]

It was good stuff. No, here's that. Met, like, in the back gala a couple years ago where they're both obviously wearing huge heels. Kendall's like, a good 6 inches tall.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, wow. Okay. Well, Kylie just comes off as a tall person. Timothy comes off as a small person.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes.

[Jackie Oshry]

Together, they. They fit. They fit perfectly. Like a puzzle piece looking for its mate.

[Claudia Oshry]

All this time, they also sat together through the award show. He Won some award. The whole thing was in Italian.

[Jackie Oshry]

The David to Tonatello Award.

[Claudia Oshry]

I don't know if it was that one specifically, but I'll have to double check. They. The whole thing was in Italian and he, like, had to go up. I don't know if it was, like, for a sketch or a skit or whatever, but they said, Kylie Jenner.

[Jackie Oshry]

I saw.

[Claudia Oshry]

And she just was like, hi.

[Jackie Oshry]

Hi. I just want to say I believe that the awards, like, everyone wins a David at the David Townhood because he wanted the David for cinematic excellence.

[Claudia Oshry]

So the David is like the Oscar.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. So they went to the date. So when they're talking about it, they're like, we're going to the Davids.

[Claudia Oshry]

Got it. Got it. It doesn't roll off the tongue quite as well as the Oscars.

[Jackie Oshry]

Not like David Protein.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, it's just a kind of clunky. The David, you know, should have been.

[Jackie Oshry]

Sponsored by David protein.

[Claudia Oshry]

1,000%. That's gorgeous.

[Jackie Oshry]

Step and repeat.

[Claudia Oshry]

And what was so great about this is that we weren't expecting it. Right. We were all kind of coming down from the high that maybe they were going to be together at the Met.

[Jackie Oshry]

Gala or that Nick game. I was looking. I was off guard.

[Claudia Oshry]

We weren't looking.

[Jackie Oshry]

And it was in another time zone. So it's noon here.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. It was right after the toast and.

[Jackie Oshry]

My girl is out.

[Claudia Oshry]

I loved it. I. I will love it.

[Jackie Oshry]

I loved it. I hope that they go to the MSG next.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Each other's side.

[Claudia Oshry]

Do you think, like, the floodgates are just completely open now or they'll still continue to be quite measured in their public appearances?

[Jackie Oshry]

I think. Measured. It reminds me a lot of Kim and Pete when we were like, when are they going to walk the carpet together? Even though they didn't date for nearly this long and they wound up doing some, like, weird carpet. They did the met gala in D.C. first. That was their first.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, a White House correspondent center, was it?

[Jackie Oshry]

White House? I feel like it wasn't even.

[Claudia Oshry]

It was like the losery one. Like, not White House correspondence. Like White House student.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's like 5,000 forest fondants.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it was like, the same backdrop.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yes, totally. But it was again, like a dry run. And then they did the Met Gala, but it's not like all of a sudden we started seeing them and then they got married and had children. So I do think this is, like, a special treat for us and we shouldn't get used to it. And I hope by me saying that that I'm completely wrong. And then we get about the time.

[Claudia Oshry]

Now it's possible we have been wrong before.

[Jackie Oshry]

Praying, praying.

[Claudia Oshry]

This was a great little Wednesday treat.

[Jackie Oshry]

Thanks, Kylie.

[Claudia Oshry]

Truly, she did it for the fans. Like, she knew how desperate we were. Club Chalamet not taking it well. Club Chalamet had also, like, been on hiatus before the Met Gala, I think in anticipation that they would walk the carpet together. And the second that they didn't, Club Chalamet made her return to social media.

[Jackie Oshry]

And for those who don't back Club Chalamet is. Can you just give, like, elevator pitch?

[Claudia Oshry]

It's a Twitter account that has now become, like, synonymous with Timothee Chalamet because it's just this older woman who's dedicated.

[Jackie Oshry]

Her like a fan club for Timothee Chalamet run by one woman, one mentally ill woman.

[Claudia Oshry]

And up until recently, it was just like a Twitter account, like any other celebrity Twitter account that, like, updates you on the comings and goings of the. Your favorite celebrity.

[Jackie Oshry]

But.

[Claudia Oshry]

But people started to notice, like, a year ago, like, some of the rhetoric, the language being used was, like, really fudgeing crazy. And so people became obsessed, and she started to spiral when Kylie came into the picture. She fucking hates.

[Jackie Oshry]

She won't even say her name.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's giving Susie Peppers from Glee.

[Jackie Oshry]

Of course, she's also in love with Timothy. Right. She would hate anyone who's with her, man.

[Claudia Oshry]

You know, she's a much older woman, which is just, like, funny to think about. And so she went on hiatus. She said, like, I'm taking time off, and it was a couple of days before the Met Gala, and I think everybody was, like, pretty much. It was, like, understood that Kylie and Timothy were gonna be walking together. So she thought she was being slick, but she just didn't want to have to address it. And she. Every time Kylie and him are spotted together, she writes, like, these really crazy subliminal tweets. Being, like, a woman scorned is a woman from hell. Like, she's really nuts. The second they didn't walk them back out of the red carpet together, she said, I'll be returning tomorrow. Then this thing happened. I don't know what. What ended up happening with Club Chalamet, but I'm genuinely wishing her the best.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Well, I'm thrilled for the rest of us.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Sad day for Chalamet. Happy day for us.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's true. So we'll take that win. Are you ready for our next story? Dochi is responding to her diva apper. Diver outburst at the Met gala and downplaying the situation. So she posted a tick tock with a song. What was the song? Oh, the Commodore is easy. Easy. Like Sunday morning.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's a trending song right now. And the trend that goes along with it is, like, where you're like, how do I explain it? It's like you're talking about, like, something crazy or, like, one of your bad traits being, like, God forbid a woman is in business. You know, like.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

And you're just, like, making excuses for, like, a crazy thing you did one time.

[Jackie Oshry]

You know, like, God forbid a woman said.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right. God forbid a woman expresses herself. So that's how you would do it. Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

She said, God forbid a girl needs more umbrellas. Then she posted saying, all jokes aside, this was such an overstimulating night, But I wouldn't trade it for the world. This was a night we all dreamed of, and my team killed it. Umbrellas aside, crying emoji.

[Claudia Oshry]

So it's a strategy, right? Like, when everybody's talking about this big scandal, you can either get in on the joke or pretend. I feel like it reminds me a lot of. And she's just now making news. Liam, Michelle is on therapists.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Talking about reading. Her reading. And remember when that whole thing was actively happening, we kept saying on the toast, we were like, lea Michelle, like, running from this rumor makes everyone think it's true. Like, it's a better strategy to just lean in sometimes. But that rumor was so harmless, like, it was funny.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's not the same. It's been more comparable to the Lea Michele bullying rumors.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right. It's not the same. So I feel like Dochi's, like, downplaying what actually happened, and that's why this is not a good strategy. Normally, I'm a big fan of this strategy. Like, get in on the joke. This, too shall pass. But she's actually making it worse.

[Jackie Oshry]

I agree. I agree. And I know my advice yesterday was to just, like, like, lean into this, not be like, I'm so, like, pretend like you're not that person. Because, like, we saw who you are. But I wouldn't have said to do this I. If she would have been better off ignoring it and posting a long thing about the Met Gala, long to the point of boring all of us. Which is a good strategy about how she was so, like, happy to be there and it was such a special night and thank you to everyone and, like, just literally glazed over it.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Because now it seems like, you know, we all heard the way you spoke to People. And now it seems like that's something that, like, you're like, yeah, it's. I. I'm like, I would have been able to get over it, but now I'm like, okay, well, if you're gonna talk about it, like, let's talk about it.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, I agree. Not the greatest strategy. And I don't think it's playing well either for other people because I think the people who are like, in mad, like, mad at her, in earnest. Like, this is really offensive. And then everyone else, it's just like, well, that's not really the way to handle things.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right. Like, I'm not mad at her.

[Jackie Oshry]

No.

[Claudia Oshry]

But I think this is a bad response. Like, really bad.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's. That's how I feel. Like I'm not mad. Like, so you're so. You're a diva. Like, so you yell at people.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay. Pop off.

[Jackie Oshry]

Just like, make sure to not be so phony all the other times. That's like, going forward, just be yourself, you know?

[Claudia Oshry]

100.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's really it. But no, I'm not like, mad.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, me neither. Big mad.

[Jackie Oshry]

But yeah, Not. I wouldn't have advised this, but nobody listens to me.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, nobody listens to us.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. And that's the problem.

[Claudia Oshry]

Therein lies the issue.

[Jackie Oshry]

Are you ready for our next story? Some major TV news because Bravo announces. Literally, Bravo woke up yesterday and said, how can we make the swirly so happy? Like, what would just make their life?

[Claudia Oshry]

How can we cater to getting Jackie and Claudia back to being obsessed with Bravo?

[Jackie Oshry]

How can we get Jackie and Claudia to do four Bravo recaps a week? And this is what they literally, this is what they put together. And I have to say, a plus A.

[Claudia Oshry]

No notes.

[Jackie Oshry]

No notes. They are introducing a new Real Housewives called Real Housewives of Long Island. Partialish. I always give a new franchise a shot.

[Claudia Oshry]

I love a first season 1000%. I think there have been so many cities where people have been begging, like, give us Nashville, give us Chicago. And it's almost like there's too much pressure now and like, people have pre cast those shows in their minds. So for them to go totally rogue. Rhode Island. There is a lot of money on Rhode Island. It's also like a very niche subculture. It's a perfect selection with like a.

[Jackie Oshry]

Distinct style, a distinct way of life. I think it'll.

[Claudia Oshry]

And it's very trendy right now. Like that coastal grad. It's really smart. I'm like, I'm excited, love.

[Jackie Oshry]

Then they're doing wife swap with Real Housewives edition, which I feel like in all of our discussions over the years, we have suggested a version of this.

[Claudia Oshry]

This is just another they've actually recently gotten very good at. And I think that was kind of the impetus behind a lot of the. The shows that they announced yesterday is that they have these like. Well, maybe the shows themselves didn't work. They have an abundance of like, stars. Right. Like Reza Farah and like, they don't know what to do with these stars. So we were just talking earlier in the week about Bravo's Love Hotel, like these sorts of quirky concepts when Sonia and. And Luann went to the small town crappy lake.

[Jackie Oshry]

But like, did anybody watch? I can't. I don't know if you could. I did that. It was good.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh my God. It was the funniest. Like, I was actually howling. It was the funniest thing I'd ever watched. People loved it. It was a peacock.

[Jackie Oshry]

Exclusive ways to repurpose their own talent and their own shows and make it new again.

[Claudia Oshry]

Exactly. And so I think that Wife swap and there are so many husbands too, who everybody loves. So that. That is actually like such a no brainer.

[Jackie Oshry]

Hysterical. Then they're bringing back Ladies of London. Ladies.

[Claudia Oshry]

I mean, that's another Caroline Stanberry. Like, people love her and there's so much demand for her and there's no show for her.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Well, I just want to say they said it's going to be all new people, meaning, like Caroline. But I don't know, I feel like Caroline might hear this and her and Sergio might move back to London and.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right. She lives in Dubai now.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. So let's just wait and see. But the other. They actually had a lot of good people on the show. Like Juliet and Marissa doesn't live there anymore. The sandwich lady.

[Claudia Oshry]

Sandwich.

[Jackie Oshry]

So Caprice, I told me on the first season, she.

[Claudia Oshry]

Don't forget Caprice.

[Jackie Oshry]

I. Sophie Sambury. I personally would love if they brought back some of the ladies, but you know what? Like, I'm gonna trust them. They're bringing back Ladies of London. That's enough for me. I feel like I have been shouting into a void for so many years. Like, Ladies of London was not recognized in its time.

[Claudia Oshry]

It wasn't.

[Jackie Oshry]

And they've. They're bringing it back. Like, oh, my God. Okay, I'm sat.

[Claudia Oshry]

London is just a great city for like, there's such wealthy, beautiful women there. Like, we have to do something.

[Jackie Oshry]

And then Shaws of Sunset, they're doing a spin off called the Valley Persian style.

[Claudia Oshry]

So this like you guys don't know what this means to me. Like, I, I, I didn't know this. Somebody told me, and I was, like, sworn to secrecy. Did I tell you?

[Jackie Oshry]

No. But I also feel like you hear rumors like this all the time. And, like, until it's announced.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, like, like, it was like, like, I knew, like, it was real. Like, it was from a legit source. So I wasn't. But I didn't know that it was going to be branded as, like, a spin off of the Valley, which I actually think is brilliant, because the Valley, it's kind of filling this, like, niche generational gap between, like, Gen Z reality TV watchers who love, like, Netflix's shows, and then, like, the OG Bravo fans that are kind of aging a little bit. So where these, like, young families, like, where do young moms go on reality tv? The Valley. And I think that them branding it as the Valley because, like, Gigi, they all have kids. They're all, like, growing their families. I think it's so smart. And this is exactly, like, every. I don't know who is confirmed. I know Gigi, Reza, and mjr. I'm sure Mike Shoehead is not involved. No. These are, like, professional reality stars. And think about how much everybody loved MJ on Traders. They didn't even know her from shots of sunset because everybody slept on shots of sunset. And I also think, like, the way shots of sunset, like, we don't talk enough about Shaza Sunset's cultural impact from so many different angles. Right. Like, people don't even realize, like, it was at a time towards the end, not so much, but, like, for so many years, it was really about their cultures. And this was like a group of Jewish and Muslim best friends. They went to Israel. Like, they were having hard conversations. Like, it was kind of doing the most from a million. And then also being, like, such a good, dramatic TV show. Like, they were having conversations nobody else was having. Like, let me tell you, there was no greater show on TV than Charles's onset. And I stand by that.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Maybe that. That will be the healing that we need.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes. So I'm telling you, like, the, the way, like, these conversations we're being had, these bridges, these gaps were being bridged. Like, you look like piece of wood. Like, Bring Back Vita. Obviously, the show. Like, thank you. Like, seriously, thanks to whoever's idea this was.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. I feel like they could feel us. Obviously, we have strayed from many franchises. We've been recapping Bravo a lot in the last few weeks, and maybe that's been really great for their ratings and they're like, we need to keep the girls recapping Bravo shows. They've, they've stopped watching literally everything else except for Summer House, Southern Charm and Beverly Hills in the Valley.

[Claudia Oshry]

It. No, it definitely felt targeted towards us. No, in a good way.

[Jackie Oshry]

In a good way. Like, and even if it wasn't even this is just some coincidence which, you know, is God winking. Really.

[Claudia Oshry]

Uh huh.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'm going to take it as this. Like, yeah, we're, we're coming back next. Work on Andy's attitude 1000%.

[Claudia Oshry]

And if you're interested in watching the Valley, like, highly recommend going back and re watching shots of sunset the first couple of seasons. Remember the Lily Galici, like, era? It seriously wasn't real, you guys. And it got the asa. Her diamond water. Bring back Assa. Okay. Bring back Assa. She's dating like Jermaine Jackson.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

She made her captains. Like, if you were there. I was upset.

[Jackie Oshry]

The siblings.

[Claudia Oshry]

Who were the siblings.

[Jackie Oshry]

In the most recent seasons?

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, Mona and Mona. The brother. The brother. He. By the way, when they arrived, like the show was on its last leg, like, they, they remind me of like the twins from Jersey, you know?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like they were just kind of like a curse on the show. Remember Bobby and Asifa?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

They were that couple that got cast that were so miserable with each other and then they came on the toast. Oh no, they came on the breath back in the day and we interviewed them and then I guess she had like, never watched our shots of sunset to recaps. So like three days later she wrote me a nasty message being like, had I known what you had said about us on our show, I never would have agreed to come out. I'm like, okay, like, whose problem is that?

[Jackie Oshry]

Also, I, I barely remember this, but I feel like she came on and like we liked her. So like, that's a good way to get us to start saying like, better things.

[Claudia Oshry]

Her and her man were just fudgeing miss. They were honestly like an early version of Michelle and Jesse.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Because I think they were married.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Well, this is all very exciting.

[Claudia Oshry]

It is.

[Jackie Oshry]

We will. Don't take too long, you know, don't let the grass grow under your feet.

[Claudia Oshry]

Agree.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, let's get it popping.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's my understanding that shots of sunset is already in the middle of filming.

[Jackie Oshry]

Great.

[Claudia Oshry]

And the fact that they're calling it the Valley is great. But like, we are going to be calling it shots of sunset, shots of.

[Jackie Oshry]

The Valley and real Housewives of Rhode Island. I saw, like a collage of six ladies. So hopefully that means it could have been anyone. But hopefully that right. Things are progressing.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, hopefully these are, like, actively in development, not just ideas.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, I think. I don't think they announce ideas. I think that, like, what's happening.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

So we'll keep you posted.

[Claudia Oshry]

Before we continue keeping people posted on important things, can I let you know that today's episode is brought to you by booking.combooking.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, you can.

[Claudia Oshry]

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[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Jackie, I know that you feel really passionately about letting everyone know that today's episode is brought to you by Resort Pass.

[Jackie Oshry]

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[Claudia Oshry]

So especially if you have kids, especially.

[Jackie Oshry]

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[Claudia Oshry]

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[Jackie Oshry]

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[Claudia Oshry]

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[Jackie Oshry]

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[Claudia Oshry]

Thank you Jackie so much. Today's episode is also brought to you by Taylor Farms. A very Jackie O coated ad break if you ask me.

[Jackie Oshry]

Well, I integrate all of our brands into my everyday life.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes. And especially when with the salad company like Taylor Farms. It's salads are obviously good for you, like physically. Right. Nutrients, important. But there's also some a mental game going on. When you eat a salad, right, you think everyone's looking at me, I'm eating a salad. They know I'm a model. I am like a vision of health and like I will donate my body to science long after I'm gone. That's kind of the best part for me of eating a salad is like what, what it looks like to other.

[Jackie Oshry]

People when you're reading Demon Copperhead.

[Claudia Oshry]

Exactly.

[Jackie Oshry]

And eating a Taylor Farm salad at the same time. Peak human experience.

[Claudia Oshry]

So Taylor Farms chop salad kits. It's so Easy to get your salad together. They come in so many flavors. Sweet kale, Caesar, avocado ranch, Mediterranean crunch. They're super fresh. They're crisp and delicious. The whole family will love them. Also, they're just easy. Cuz like sometimes when you think of like a salad in a bag, you're thinking like brown, you're thinking crisp, you're thinking wilted, you're thinking wilted, you're thinking, how long has this been sitting on the shelf? With Taylor Farms, the ingredients are so fresh, pre chopped, pre washed, you could literally eat it straight out of the bag. A lot of people like to like do it up. I've seen people like rip up turkey slices and throw them in the bag. Just like shake it.

[Jackie Oshry]

You obviously can like, you can. I don't judge, like how you eat your Taylor Farms is more personal than comedy. But I like to plate mine.

[Claudia Oshry]

Grab a Taylor Farms chop salad kit and get your salad together. Okay?

[Jackie Oshry]

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[Claudia Oshry]

I'm. I am always hungry. Like that's just like a fact of life these days too.

[Jackie Oshry]

But now specifically I need a Taylor Farm salad while I try to put.

[Claudia Oshry]

All of our like food related ad copy at the end of the show. Because if it's at the beginning, we.

[Jackie Oshry]

Won'T be able to focus because we're so fat.

[Claudia Oshry]

We are fat.

[Jackie Oshry]

Are you ready for our next story? Shifting gears. Liam Payne's ex Cheryl Cole takes over the singer's 32 million dollar fortune after he died without a will. So Liam Payne's ex Cheryl Cole was appointed an administrator of the late singer's 32 million dollar estate after he died last year without a will. The TV personality Cheryl Cole, who has an eight year old son with Liam, and the music industry lawyer Richard Mark Bray were named as co administrators. In court documents obtained by Rolling Stone on Wednesday, the duo will determine decisions regarding Payne's money, property and belongings.

[Claudia Oshry]

I mean, this is really shocking that a, a celebrity, but be a celebrity with this high of a net worth, like this much cash would be left without a will. Especially when you have a child. Like, yeah, I think most people only have wills once they become a parent. But in this particular industry, when you have a lot of money, you just create a will. It's like sort of what's done for you by like your lawyers and your business managers. So I find this really shocking. I think a lot of people are like thinking it's weird because him and Cheryl aren't together and like, what about Kate, his fiance? But I do feel this is appropriate.

[Jackie Oshry]

I feel it's appropriate to. They'll also be managing the money. They have limited authority and they can't distribute it. So it's not like she just to earn $32 million. And I imagine like most of the money is going to go to his son. What he would have wanted.

[Claudia Oshry]

Thousand.

[Jackie Oshry]

It is, you know, a little crazy that someone with his net worth who has a child like didn't have a will. However, he's really young and I feel like it's actually, it's not as crazy as if like a 70 year old doesn't have a will. Like, it's just something that I feel like you think, oh yeah, I'll do that, I'll do that. And then if you don't do it and it's too late, like I, I could see how it's. When I saw that I was, I wasn't so shocked. It's unfortunate, but hopefully it was like.

[Claudia Oshry]

A tragic untimely death.

[Jackie Oshry]

Right. But hopefully between Cheryl and the businessman, like they will do it.

[Claudia Oshry]

It'll be well taken care of. I don't think this is going to be like shady or anything.

[Jackie Oshry]

Liam, what Liam would have wanted anyway.

[Claudia Oshry]

I also, like, just because I'm nosy, I do find it interesting, like what life as a former One Direction member who didn't like go on to do a million other things. Like, you know, I think maybe 31 million of his 32 are from one Direction and then the other million is.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like from various things he's done and I would say much more than I thought it would be.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes. And I think that like Harry and Niall probably have way more money but knowing they all walked away from this band with something like this and he's probably done well for himself just like investing and like you have people for that to take care of your money. I found that like, not to be nosy, I just found it particularly interesting especially because we've been told that like those X Factor contracts, those Simon Cowell contracts are like predatory.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

And you get no money. But they had such unbelievable success that.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like I think they eventually a short time period. And I also want to say I actually feel like there wasn't that much investing in people taking care of his money. I feel like if anything there were people taking advantage of him. Like he was, you know, not sober all the time. Like that's the people. Like that's when people around you just take everything from you. So I think maybe it was even more at a certain point.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right.

[Jackie Oshry]

But it is very Interesting, because also, when I think of Fifth Harmony, I don't know why. I assume, like, they're all destitute.

[Claudia Oshry]

They are.

[Jackie Oshry]

But, like, what they. I. One Direction was bigger but, like, still split five ways, by the way.

[Claudia Oshry]

One Direction. No, I'm sorry, you can't compare the two. But what we know about those X Factor contracts, we know from Fifth Harmony. We know from, like, how terrible their experience was, how little money there was, and how much, like, seriously was being stolen from them. When you think about, like, there they were also a really short, like, period of time. So many hits.

[Jackie Oshry]

Hits like no other.

[Claudia Oshry]

Hits like no other. And I think that, like, the members who aren't actively working, like, seriously are on the brink of poverty. That's how I feel.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, but I would have said not poverty for One Direction, but, like, they have to work. They have to get up and make some sort of living.

[Claudia Oshry]

I wouldn't have thought that. I would have thought that, like, if they're prudent, they could live off of. They could live well off of the money. That, like, I think Louis Tomlinson, Zayn, and What's the other one, Liam? Excuse me. I think, like, none of them went on to do major things in the music industry, and I think they all live very comfortably off of their One Direction. I'm curious if they still make money. Like, because, I mean, I'm streaming.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'm streaming as well.

[Claudia Oshry]

I think they must get, like, 100 million streams a year. Like, and yes, they just split it five ways, but there's still people buying merchandise. Like, there's still money to be made and there's so much demand.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's true. Also, a court. When someone dies in the UK without a will, their children will typically inherit the fortune if there's no living spouse or civil partner.

[Claudia Oshry]

So I think that's appropriate.

[Jackie Oshry]

I think so, too. So, yeah. Not like. Not actually the worst outcome of.

[Claudia Oshry]

No. Could have been so much worse. Oh, my God.

[Jackie Oshry]

And Cheryl Cole seems sound advice.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. She doesn't seem. Even though, like, there was a weird element to their relationship. She was a judge on his season of X Factor and, like, she was much older. There was, like, a little bit of a predatory element, but let's not go there. You know, this is a nice story.

[Jackie Oshry]

She's 41. How old was Leah?

[Claudia Oshry]

32.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay. But he was probably eight years when they had a child. Eight years ago.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right. And they dated for a while.

[Jackie Oshry]

She was, like, 30 and he was, like, 20.

[Claudia Oshry]

And then, like, a few years before that, like, he was 17 on X Factor and she was a judge. Like, it's weird.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Let's just, you know, our fifth and final story. Our fifth and final story, which will lead into our TV recap, is actually a confluence of everything that we've been talking about in the last few weeks. The Beckham's summer house, Lexi Wood. Because Lexi went on Vial files and she was asked, by the way.

[Claudia Oshry]

By the way, I just know that if Brooklyn and Lexi had ended up together, they would all be getting along so well right now.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. But she was asked about David and Victoria, given that Nicola and Brooklyn, she's like fire line of questioning to the bio files.

[Claudia Oshry]

I want to say I've actually seen a lot of hate being sent Nick Viles way for his line of questioning on this episode, specifically about Sierra. And I'm sorry, I actually think Nick was like asking the questions that a lot of viewers have been thinking they're like, kind of unpopular. But I am curious about Lexi, the Beckhams too. So I want to say kudos to Nick, actually, even though he's getting a lot of heat.

[Jackie Oshry]

Tell me about that later after on the show. I want to hear what he asked. That's so crazy. But she said Lexi was asked about Brooklyn's family. She said the family is just the nicest, despite claims recently that David and Victoria are actually toxic.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, my.

[Jackie Oshry]

She said she dated Brooklyn back in 2018 when she was just 20 years old. And so she opened up about her relationship with the family to Nick Viles. She says that because she was so young, she and Brooklyn didn't spend a lot of time with his entire family. But she adds, they're just the nicest. She prays on David and Victoria specifically, saying they're so cool. And Victoria is a style icon in her opinion. She also had kind words to say about Brooklyn's wife Nicola, saying she and Brooklyn have a wonderful relationship. So you're not going to catch Lexi Wood talking shit about anybody.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, Lexi's extremely media trained and you're seeing that in a lot of the interviews that she's doing as it pertains to Jesse and Sierra. Now it in the last couple of days, it has finally gotten to a point that's a little contentious. But I would have expected us to get to this level of contention like a while ago. And I think that's what I was saying before is like so much of what's gone on between Lexi, Jesse and Sierra. Lexi's sort of like done the right thing and the thing we always wish A girl would do. And it's like just blaming the guy. Right? It's like it's Jesse's fault. Jesse's the one who has responsibility to the girl. And, like, Sierra is, you know, they're just sort of, like, orbiting around each other in the house. It's kind of weird, but recently, through, like, various questions that she's been asked on different podcasts, but I think also, like, it's escalated personally. Like, her and Sierra have had words. She's starting to just, like, be a little bit critical of Ciara. And I think that's also happening next week in the conversation because up until this point, it's. We're always saying it's like, yeah, but it's Jesse. We wish the, you know, the girls wouldn't fight. It's the guy's fault. She's doing exactly like a girl should.

[Jackie Oshry]

Do, having these conversations about Jesse and all of his issues in front of Sierra. Even on last night's Summer house, when she's talking to Lindsey and Sierra about how Jesse's treating Sarah. Sierra, like, it. At no point.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's weird.

[Jackie Oshry]

It looks like not until next week, as at no point has she been, like, critical of Sierra because Sierra is just, like, she owes Lexi nothing. Jesse's her friend. This is how she talks to her friend. If it doesn't work for the girlfriend that's on the boyfriend to change 1000%.

[Claudia Oshry]

Although there is an argument to be made. It's just like, as a girl and as like, somebody who's been through, like, these toxic Bravo men multiple times. Like, you would have Lexi back a little bit more. Yeah. And like, just offer, you know, be. Be more of a friend than a foe. And like, she's just sort of like this. This roadblock in their relationship. And. And I actually think last night's episode was a real, like, a really bad look for Sierra, especially at the beach. And it's hard because I feel like I have never had a critical thing to say about Sierra, but I think of, like, all of her big scandals. I was writing that. Scandals, excuse me, dramas. I ride so hard for her. Especially, like, her verse Danielle.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, I'll never forget that Lindsay, she.

[Claudia Oshry]

She's been so right in everything. Austin, Kroll, Wes, like, she. She has been just, like, she's kind of had an amazing time on reality TV because she's found herself at the center of the drama, and she's always been right, which is very hard to do. I do feel like that's not the case this season. And I. I Don't know how she's gonna react to it at the reunion, but I think during the filming, she still thinks that she's like, you know, people are gonna be agreeing with her. And I've seen people especially just because, like, she really likes. She's sort of been the poster girl for, like, toxic Bravo relationships that you would just expect her to be more supportive of this new girl who. Who's sort of been like, left hung out to dry, except for Amanda Betula, which has been very nice to see Amanda sort of step up.

[Jackie Oshry]

No. And the idea that Sierra would even flirt with. No pun intended. Like, the idea of another Bravo relationship with the kind of guy who's already acting this way towards a girl that he literally loves. Like, it's not for lack of liking her. This is how much he likes her. And this is also how he treats her so that she wouldn't run from that. And instead, like, her and the girls are giggling like, jesse loves you. Are you guys gonna. And it's like, yeah, run.

[Claudia Oshry]

No. It's so true. Like, have we learned nothing?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. So that's where it's like, just. You're so unsympathetic because it's like, he's literally Wes 2.0.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's true. In Turbo mode, it's also hard to watch Lexi because she's very. She has a backbone. But she really likes Jesse. So, like, to see her, it's kind of like a stereotypical trope, you know, like, this guy's terrible to you. You're making it so far. Like, you're gonna get out, and then you get back together with him, and they walk in the house together. It's sort of like a rite of passage for a young girl, especially like a new one on a Bravo show. It was hard to watch. And I do think that next week, they officially break up, which is good.

[Jackie Oshry]

But I am okay. I mean, it's funny that they couldn't even make it a week. But, like, when they walked back in together and the last clusterfuck of the last few weeks, between the Sierra flirting and the toe and the talking shit, like, all of that, I was. I was okay with her giving him one more chance. Like, I think that if he could have learned from all of that, like, learn. I need to completely change how I behave, how I think, how I speak. Like, it. Maybe he could have, like, I understand why Lexi gave him one more chance. She likes him so much. We're going to throw away how much we like each. They're literally like fireworks In a magnet. We're going to throw that away because, like, we got off on the wrong foot. We're like on a TV show. It's very high stakes situation. Like, I will give you one more chance to like, act right, maybe.

[Claudia Oshry]

But then watching him, watching him sit and talk about her mom and her sister, whatever you make of, like, people have criticisms of how close she is with her mom or sister and that they go out to clubs together. Like, if you're, if I'm letting you into my family unit, we're all like hanging out all the time and you're running, like talking to your friends about my family. Like, sorry, we're done. Yeah, we are done.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

I don't even care what you. If what you said was valid or is it weird that my mom went out to a club at 4 in the morning. I don't give a.

[Jackie Oshry]

Don't come.

[Claudia Oshry]

Don't come. And do not speak about my family to other people.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, I totally agree. Especially like in a conversation that had like a negative slam. I wonder what. She obviously didn't see that. So I wonder what will be the thing between this week and next week where she does end things with him. And it does seem to be more about Sierra. And finally the girls are going to have words. I do feel like, you know, back in the day on reality tv, it was like you wanted to be the biggest, baddest you could be. And then like, times change and trends change and now, like, nobody wants to be a. Like, nobody wants.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, you want to be seen as a girl's girl. You want to be a mean girl. You want to be a girl's girl.

[Jackie Oshry]

Everyone is like, like passive aggressive. No one, like, wants to go there unless, like, you're an actual crazy person who, like, would do anything for reality tv. And it's like you don't care how you come off. Like, I'm getting paid. I'm gonna provide entertainment like a Jax Taylor sword. But most of these girls just like, want to choose brand deals, want people to like them. They don't want to deal with. Hey. They don't want to fight with other people in the house who like every. Who are cool and everybody likes. So, like, they've really been skating on thin ice. And it seems like next week like something happens where they, her and Sierra.

[Claudia Oshry]

Have words, but they have to have a conversation.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's so weird in real time. I think one of the biggest catalysts for now, Lexi and Sierra speaking about each other was Lexi's birthday that she invited Jesse and Sierra to her birthday. Neither of them came, and instead they hung out together. And Sierra says that that's not true.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. And vile files asked her be like, sierra said that what you said is not true. So how do you respond to that? And she was like, well, I did invite them both to my party. They were together having lunch. I have screenshots of both of those things, but I'm not going to talk about it because Sierra has told me to stop talking about it and to.

[Jackie Oshry]

Stop talking about her.

[Claudia Oshry]

Her.

[Jackie Oshry]

She hasn't talked about her that much.

[Claudia Oshry]

I know. And I feel like Sierra, like, honestly, it could have been so much worse for Sierra had Lexi placed any blame on. On Sierra and Jesse. Not just Jesse, but Lexi's, like, doing the right thing. Girls, girl, yada yada. And Sierra's, like, still mad.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Which I think if Lexi had placed any blame on Sierra earlier than this in the season, like, I don't think it would have ended well for agreed. Like, I think she was right. But let's see what happens next week that causes Lexi to, like, be more activated.

[Claudia Oshry]

But there's such a weirdness. Like when. When Sierra came into the room with Lindsay and Lexi with a martini, and Lexi was like, oh, martini. She was like, oh, I like, would have made you one, but I didn't know you were up here. Like, they hate each other. They hate each other, but they can't. Nobody wants to be the first to start it because one, it would make Sierra look really bitter and jealous. And to Lexi, that's not very girls girl of you. Like, it's Jesse who's the one who owes you loyalty.

[Jackie Oshry]

Sierra has so many friends in the house. So if you come in and you fight with Sierra, like, you have no friends. And now the only person you have is Jesse, who also talks shit about you behind your back and loves you up during the week. Like, it's a very confusing spot to be in 1000%. So the rest.

[Claudia Oshry]

Can we quickly talk about soft bar?

[Jackie Oshry]

Can we can def. And we also need to talk about her getting up from the table when west was talking about his friend who passed away.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, that was bad.

[Jackie Oshry]

Was so crazy. And I thought maybe she was getting up. I was giving her the benefit of that. Like, maybe she's gonna go cry because, like, she. It was too much. It was feeling emotional. And she doesn't want Wes to even know that she has any softness in her heart for him. But it, like, wasn't that. It was really unkind.

[Claudia Oshry]

So I thought 100% it was edited because, like, it was so crazy. I'm like, that's fake. Like, it's literally fake. But then later in the night, Amanda was like, by the way, did you get up when Wes was so, like, they referenced the get up. I'm like, oh, I thought for sure it was spliced together and they were just making her look bad. And I honestly thought it wasn't true. And I didn't give it another minute's thought. And then they reference it. I'm like, oh, she really did get up in the middle of this, like, really emotional moment where everyone's, like, talking about their feelings. And obviously Carl has experience with grief. And, like, it was it. Yeah. And it was, it was kind of beautiful.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, And I understand that.

[Claudia Oshry]

And unexpected from West.

[Jackie Oshry]

I understand that you hate west. And, like, literally, you don't want. But there are moments in life where you just lay down your arms and just, you can provide just a smile, a comfort. Like, even Lindsay and Carl, when it was the anniversary.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Of his brother.

[Jackie Oshry]

We had a different Lindsay that day. Like, we.

[Claudia Oshry]

So true.

[Jackie Oshry]

Stay tant for a day.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's so true.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, and the fact that she couldn't do that. And especially after just being so cold him all season. Like, she gives him the leftovers from Martini and she doesn't even look at him. And it's like, I'm really over it, you know?

[Claudia Oshry]

I agree.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, after everything he did, like the reunion and the public berating of west got what?

[Claudia Oshry]

He got punished.

[Jackie Oshry]

But, like, again, we are on the show. You have to move on from things. And, like, even in her conversation with Jesse, and I understand, like, really getting so mad at someone. Someone. Because I could get really mad too. But the moment someone gives me a sincere apology, especially when it's someone that, like, is in my life my friend.

[Claudia Oshry]

Someone and someone you once, like, had love for.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Like, I don't know all this not expecting everyone to be like me. But, like, I can forget. I can move on from something. Like, no.

[Claudia Oshry]

But even just, like, human decency, even if you still can't move on and you still hate them, they're sitting there crying about their friend who passed away. Like, even if you have mean thoughts, just sit there.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, that was weird. But also in her conversation with Jesse, it's like there's nothing that he could say. Say to, like, soften her heart towards him. When it's like, last week, that was your best friend.

[Claudia Oshry]

No. And, like, I get why she hates Jesse, but, like, I, I, I don't. I can't Get a read on what does she want out of all of this? Right? Like, does she want a relationship with Jesse? Does she want to be cool with Lexi? Like, I. She's just kind of, like, being a little all over the place.

[Jackie Oshry]

But also her. Her attitude is very much like, I don't care. I don't care about you. I don't care about this. I'm done with this. I'm done with that.

[Claudia Oshry]

But you care a lot.

[Jackie Oshry]

She said in, like, just was reading something that she said, like, whether Lexi comes back to the show. Great. And if she doesn't, I'll never see her again. Like, what do you do? Like, what do you care? Like, this whole, like, attitude of, like, take it early. Like, where. Excuse me. This is a show. Like, what do you care?

[Claudia Oshry]

And to be clear, I think Lexi has had a stellar first season. I do think she'll be asked back. I think if she doesn't come back, it's because she doesn't want to be back.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Not because they didn't ask for her back. She was a great cast. She's super young. She goes out when everybody stays home. Like, all the girls stay home. She's one of the few girls that goes out. She, like, crushes it on Social. I think she was a great ad. I was actually thinking last night about how for, like, so many years, Summerhouse could not get arrested when it came to hiring good people, especially men. And over the years, like, they've gotten lucky and accrued a couple of good people like Paige and Sierra. But for the most part, like, think of how many people have come through that house and in the last, like, two, three years, Jesse, Wes, Lexi, they've actually done a great job at bringing in, like, younger, newer talent who do go out and do start stuff. Because I've seen a lot of people being like, I'm so over this Jesse and Lexi stuff. Okay, sure. What else is going on that we need to be talking?

[Jackie Oshry]

So Sam and Ron, like, this is what we want to watch.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, but what else? What would the storyline be?

[Jackie Oshry]

No, but, like, this is the type of thing, like, you come to a share house, you're single, maybe there'll be some matches in the house, drama starts. Like, that's the show. That's what we want to watch. And Lexi was on watch Happens live last night. I did not catch it, unfortunately, but she was literally on two weeks ago, three weeks ago. So I thought that was interesting. She's on again.

[Claudia Oshry]

She's. She's a major player.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Let's Just really quickly talk about softbar, please. Like, that conversation was really hard to watch. Like, and for the first time ever I saw like, up until now everybody's been like, that's so great, Carl. Out. That's okay, that's okay, that's okay. That's a great. And for the first time ever, nobody said anything. But you saw it on their faces when he was just explaining the finances of signing a seven year lease for a space that's $10,000 a month that requires almost a million dollars for build out.

[Jackie Oshry]

So we saw it on Jesse Solomon's. You're giving them too much credit. Yeah, we saw it on Jesse Solomon's face. Carl did not turn his head. So he did not see it on his face. And all he heard was words of encouragement from Jesse and from Kyle. What a bad friend. Like, I'm sorry, this is so real now. $900,000 in build out, seven year lease, $10,000 a month. What? Like, is anybody going to stop, like, say that's not a good friend?

[Claudia Oshry]

I completely agree.

[Jackie Oshry]

And it was no wants to be sad of being a bad friend, not supportive. You are, every single one of you who supports this in its entirety without giving like a one red flag is not a good friend. And you know who is a good friend? Lindsay Hubbard.

[Claudia Oshry]

Agreed. Lindsay had a great episode last night. She's so fucking funny.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, I love her.

[Claudia Oshry]

I love her and like I, I think everybody's loving her this season. It's like because she's sober. Such an annoying thing to say. But I feel good about the fact that like we've been Lindsay fans now for like two years. Like we were a little bit early. Now we have. I haven't been a day one Lindsay fan because she used to be really crazy. But I saw the good in her before most the of people did and I love that she drove out with Paige. Like she's really having such a great season.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. And she's obviously staying like above the drama because she can't get into the weed. She can't be stressed. I'm sure not drinking. But just like her position on the show of just like being a supporting cast member with a sense of humor. It's really enjoyable.

[Claudia Oshry]

Carl. Carl's assessment that Lindsay is still carrying a lot of shame and embarrassment from their breakup a year ago, I actually thought was just like a bad analysis. Like you can harbor any ill will and like say me things about Lindsay. Sure. But I actually don't think she feels that way. I thought like, I mean, obviously she's so moved on. She's already pregnant and in another relationship. But I actually think her takeaway, even when they were, like, hashing out the breakup on the reunion, I never thought for one second she felt shame. Some of the things I love about Lindsay is, like, she's not easily embarrassed.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, I wouldn't say that it's that, but I can imagine, like, if I was in her position. No, no shame. No. What? I would hate Carl.

[Claudia Oshry]

You know, I'm sure there's anger and, like, resentment, like, you wasted my time and made me look stupid. But I don't think when he identified, he thought he slayed. He was like, I think she's embarrassed.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, I think actually I don't hates you. Yeah, yeah, she just hates you. And, like, you were being hateable even in the last few months of your relationship, and then you did what you did even though she stayed with you while you were hateable. Yeah, I, you know, offended. Officially hate you.

[Claudia Oshry]

And I think that's a really fair feeling for her to feel.

[Jackie Oshry]

I think so too. And I think it's also not even been a year, so, like, I think over time, it will turn to indifference, but it's still fresh. I hate you so much.

[Claudia Oshry]

And that's okay.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. And, like, time will heal all as it does. And I'm sure her having her baby, she's me, like Carl, who likes.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, we're so dumb.

[Jackie Oshry]

She can take leaps forward in terms of her strong feelings about Carl. But don't get confused. It's just pure hatred.

[Claudia Oshry]

That is our summer house recap. Tomorrow is our last show of the week before Jax comes to town. Jackson Claude is coming. It's down. We also have Queenie and Weenie, so start ruminating on that. I already have mine. Unless something major happens today, hold space.

[Jackie Oshry]

For a new Entering the Weenie.

[Claudia Oshry]

The Weenie is flex, and it is open to interpretation until I sit down in this chair on Friday morning.

[Jackie Oshry]

By the way, Love Island Us is premiering in June. That actually might be a really good thing for you to watch.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, good call.

[Jackie Oshry]

I just saw that. Just because.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay, I'll try.

[Jackie Oshry]

New Weenie's entering the villa.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, right. Love that.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, also, Molly. Tommy. I know everyone, like, wants Molly posted Tommy.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, she did. She wished him happy birthday. But it was, like, from the POV of Bambi.

[Jackie Oshry]

It was from the pov. Thank you. Like, it wasn't from her heart. It wasn't a picture of them kissing.

[Claudia Oshry]

It was like, happy birthday, Tommy. Bambi loves you so much. No, I don't.

[Jackie Oshry]

Not. Maybe you do, but she didn't say anything. It was from the Pod of Bambi.

[Claudia Oshry]

Thank you guys so much for listening to the Toast of Monday Morning show where we deliver the fastest stories you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So if you're watching us on YouTube, please don't forget to subscribe and give this video a thumbs up. We're also available as podcast anywhere. Podcast can be found at Spotify, itunes, Stitcher Public Radio, I heard a castbox all the places wherever you listen to podcasts. Find out so toastly, if I start of you about a beautiful studying and wickedly talented we are. Love ya.

[Jackie Oshry]

Bye.