Knicks in Five: Thursday, June 11th, 2026

Summary

The Toast – "Knicks in Five: Thursday, June 11th, 2026"

Hosts: Claudia Oshry & Ben (guest co-host, Claudia's husband) Date: June 11, 2026

Episode Overview

This energized post-game episode is an exuberant recap of the New York Knicks’ historic comeback in Game 4 of the NBA Finals. With Jackie out, Claudia is joined by her husband Ben, described as the biggest Knicks fan you’ll ever meet. Live from the heart of the Knicks euphoria, Claudia and Ben relive the twists and turns of last night's wild game at Madison Square Garden, touch on the electric celebrity-filled atmosphere (hello, Taylor Swift!), break down the pivotal basketball moments, and examine the cultural phenomena surrounding Knicks fandom and New York City itself. There’s plenty of pop culture crossover, humorous banter, and fresh fan perspectives, all delivered in Claudia and Ben’s signature mix of sarcasm, honesty, and deep love for their city and team.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Reliving the Historic Knicks Comeback

• Atmosphere at MSG: The couple attended Game 4, describing the surreal, almost out-of-body experience of witnessing the Knicks’ 29-point comeback win.
  • Ben: “Last night was the worst night of my life turned greatest night of my life.” [01:19]
  • Claudia: “It felt like seriously nothing else was going on in the world except for the Knicks game last night.” [01:58]
• The Emotional Rollercoaster: Ben details the emotional burden Knicks fans carry (“childhood trauma” as a Knicks fan) and how this win felt healing.
  • “This is deep cut childhood trauma… I have drama with the Knicks…I was healed last night.” [04:03 – 04:54]
• Game Flow: Claudia expected a near-comeback but not a win; Ben recounts the slow but steady chip away at the massive deficit.
  • “It wasn’t like this one moment where, like, everything turned around. They were just chipping away…” [03:27]

2. The Full MSG Experience: Food, Fans, and Celebrities

• Stadium Eats: Both raved about the surprisingly good stadium sushi (“shoutout Tao at the stadium” [01:41]).
• Staying for the Whole Game: Social/fan etiquette about leaving when a team is down big—Ben insists, “You can’t leave Game 4 of the NBA Finals.” [02:56]
• The Afterglow: Postgame, Claudia describes celebratory chaos in the streets, the collective joy, and some nerves about fan behavior.

3. Knicks Fandom, Trauma, and Redemption

• Lifelong Fans: Ben paints being a Knicks fan as both torturous and a badge of honor, referencing their 17-65 record in 2015.
  • Notable banter: “You don’t have childhood trauma.” “Yes, I do. 17 and 65.” [04:24–04:41]
• Father’s Day Surprise: Claudia tells the story of securing tickets as a Father's Day present, adding to the personal and emotional stakes. [06:15]

4. Pop Culture Overload – Taylor Swift at the Game

• A-List Attendance: Taylor Swift (with Haim, Mariska Hargitay), Kylie Jenner & Timothée Chalamet, Jimmy Fallon, and more.
  • Claudia: “Half my vlog is just me zooming in on Taylor Swift.” [08:12]
• Taylor Mania: Taylor’s presence is described as literally changing the vibe of the arena. Multiple anecdotes about her effect on celebrities, players, and the crowd.
  • “When she walked in, like the vibes changed in the whole arena. She is this presence.” [29:41]
• Swiftie Fandom & Backstory: The hosts analyze her Knicks fan credentials, her relationship with the team, feuds with Kardashians, and even scrutinize her outfit choices for clues about loyalty. [23:12 – 25:52]
  • Ben: “Taylor Swift is a Knicks fan. If she went to the Cavs game and didn’t wear anything related to the Cavs… I saw everything I needed to see.” [25:20]
• Pop Culture Crossovers: Claudia recounts the seating drama (Taylor, Haim, Mariska), the hug with Kylie, and the endless web of celebrity dynamics on display.

5. The Game’s Key Plays & Player Highlights

• Player Praise: OG Anunoby is crowned MVP of the night; Ben breaks down the game’s pivotal “tip in” play, credits Jalen Brunson’s clutch performance, and references a Brian Windhorst quote about OG deserving two statues for his Finals heroics. [09:43 – 10:36]
  • “OG’s the MVP of the night. But as I watched it back, Brunson did his thing. He helped us chip away, but this was OG’s night.” [09:47]
  • “He had 33 points on 15 shots, which is an unbelievable ratio.” [09:58]
• The Comeback: The mechanics and drama of the 29-point turnaround, with Ben explaining the psychological swings and the improbability of such a win for the Knicks.
• Anthem Performance: Avery Wilson praised for consecutive stellar renditions of the national anthem. [12:39]

6. The State of Knicks Fandom & NYC Celebration Culture

• Bandwagoning & Gatekeeping: Debate over “real” vs. new Knicks fans, with Ben and Claudia pushing back against gatekeeping and celebrating the inclusivity such moments create.
  • Claudia: “It is annoying when people are like…‘Oh, you’re just now [a fan].’ Girl, shut up! …it’s cool that people want to be a part of it.” [35:24]
• Bad Fan Behavior: Discussion of viral clips of rowdy Knicks fans post-game, and an egg-throwing incident at Spurs’ Victor Wembanyama. Both denounce these as unrepresentative of real Knicks lovers.
  • Ben: “We do not claim the person who pelted [Wemby] with eggs…” [40:58]

7. The Taylor Swift–Selena Gomez Pop Culture Sidebar

• Selena’s Cryptic Comments: The hosts analyze Selena Gomez’s cryptic social media reactions to Taylor’s Knicks game appearance, Taylor’s girl gang, and possible bandwagoning shade.
  • Claudia: “First of all, Selena Gomez is crazy. She’s a massive Spurs fan… I could see this. But her and Taylor are tried and true.” [34:08]
• Wedding Speculation: Extended (and comedic) theorizing about Taylor Swift’s rumored upcoming wedding at Madison Square Garden, citing the privacy and security the venue offers.

8. Celebrity Culture at MSG: Who Gets the Loudest Cheers

• Recap of the hierarchy of celebrity at the Garden: classic NY icons like Jerry Seinfeld, Edie Falco, and Anthony from Sopranos get roars, while Penn Badgley and Amy Schumer get silence or even boos (the latter attributed to her outspoken support of Israel). [36:36 – 37:59]

9. Quick Hits: Pop Culture Side Stories & Reality TV Shakeups

• Jesse Solomon’s Summer House Timeline: Jesse (cast member) released his own timeline of West and Amanda’s romance, which stoked debate and continued Bravo gossip.
  • Claudia: “He didn’t get anything from West… he was crying the entire reunion… so I want to hear from Jesse Solomon.” [53:21]
  • Ben reveals he’s about to meet Jesse for dinner, pledges to “just be a friend.” [54:14]
• The Kyle Cook Arc: Both host and guest dismiss the current Summer House narrative that reframes Kyle as a “good guy,” reminding listeners of his past actions. [56:16–57:17]
• Jennifer Lawrence, Reality Sleuth: Andy Cohen claims Jennifer Lawrence helped Bravo catch the person who leaked reunion audio—but the hosts openly doubt this story. [58:19]
  • Claudia: “I kind of feel like he’s lying…why Jennifer Lawrence?” [59:33]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Ben, on Knicks Fandom:
  “This is deep cut childhood trauma… I was healed last night.” [04:03–04:54]

• Claudia, on the Post-Game Euphoria:
  “When we left the stadium, it just kept getting better. I felt drunk. I felt like I’m on drugs.” [06:44]

• On Taylor Swift at MSG:
  “When she walked in, like the vibes changed in the whole arena. She is this presence.” [29:41] “She was jumping for joy. She stayed the whole time. She did not stay the whole time at the Cavs game.” [25:52]

• Ben, on OG Anunoby’s Game:
  “OG has two statues. The chase down block on De’Aaron Fox and then the fucking tip in…” [10:36]

• Claudia, on Gatekeeping Fandom:
  “It is annoying when people are like… ‘Oh, you’re just now [a fan].’ Girl, shut up!” [35:24]

• Ben, on unruly fans:
  “We do not claim the person who pelted [Wemby] with eggs…They are just hooligans in disguise.” [40:58]

• On New York City, celebrities, and fame:
  “It was like the great equalizer. Huge celebrities were in the fifth, sixth row…” [31:01]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Opening Knicks Recap, Stadium vibes — 00:03–04:54
• Securing Tickets, Personal Journey — 04:54–06:15
• The Aftermath: NYC Celebrates & Concerns about Fan Behavior — 06:44–08:12
• Pop Culture at MSG: Taylor Swift’s Impact, Celebrity Sightings — 08:12–12:39
• Player/ Game Analysis: OG, Brunson, Key Plays — 09:43–11:46
• Taylor Swift Fandom Analysis & Outfit Debates — 21:40–25:52
• Knicks Fan Gatekeeping & The Spirit of NYC Sports — 35:04–36:28
• Egg Attack on Wemby, NBA/NYC culture at Large — 39:55–44:42
• Sidebar: Jesse Solomon’s Summer House Timeline — 51:51–55:12
• Bravo, Jennifer Lawrence, and Reality TV Leaks — 57:39–59:38

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Episode Tone & Takeaways

The episode is a buoyant, authentic celebration of NYC sports, blending passionate Knicks analysis with signature millennial pop culture snark. Claudia and Ben bring relatable, often hilarious commentary to both sports diehards and pop culture aficionados, showing why this playoff run and this moment in New York feels so extraordinary. Through their banter, the episode reflects a city’s joy, a fanbase’s hope, and all the wild confluence of sports, celebrity, and community that only New York can create.

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If You Only Have 10 Minutes, Listen To…

• 08:12–12:39: The Taylor Swift Moment, celebrity sightings, and why last night’s game was the spiritual center of NYC culture.
• 39:55–44:42: Hot take on Wembanyama, bad fan behavior, and the meaning of real fandom in NY.
• 21:40–25:52: Decoding Taylor’s loyalties and celebrity seating drama.

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“Let's go Knicks!” – Ben, [45:41]

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Transcript

[A]

Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast. It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host. It's your favorite show, the best five things you need to know. We'll start your day off Swirly. It's the Toast. They sound amazing. Welcome back to the Toast and happy Thursday. Thursday. Or should I. Should I say Jersey? Because I don't know that I saw a lot of jerseys last night. Welcome to the Toast. It's your episode post, Nick's post euphoria. And the most happenstance, the most beautiful journey, the most whimsical sort of sequence of events. So Jackie's out today. So I'm joined by not only my husband, not only my business partner and life partner, but the biggest Knicks fan you've ever met in your whole life, and actually one of the 20,000 attendees of last night's historic and NBA Finals game. Hey, Ben, how you doing?

[B]

I. I must correct.

[A]

Like, seriously, how are you doing?

[B]

You said post euphoria, and I don't. I want you to know I'll. I don't know when I'll be post euphoria. I'm getting FaceTime calls like, I'm Eric Adams.

[A]

No, it feels like it's literally your.

[B]

It's my team.

[A]

It's your birthday.

[B]

I'm the mayor. I'm James Dolan. I own the team. Last night was the worst night of my life turned greatest night of my life. I. I left. I left and I went into the Grand Concourse and got three rolls of delicious sushi. By the way, shout out to how what they do at that stadium to have really good quality sushi. Okay? Everybody's, like, eating sushi. The stadium, like, yeah, it's Tao.

[A]

Yeah, it was really. And it's really good, amazing food at the Garden.

[B]

But I was stress eating. I. I inhaled those rolls. We're looking at each other. We're down 30. I'm like, what are we doing here?

[A]

Okay, so there is a vlog coming, and I am gonna get it out today for Patreon. I vlog the whole experience of us trying to get tickets on Monday, getting the tickets today, the actual game, the highs, the lows, the eating. It was such a journey. We were both there last night at the Garden. It felt like seriously, nothing else was going on in the world except for the Knicks game last night. There were so many celebrities in attendance, which we're going to talk about. I. I want to say the Prefast Five banner, the stories, it's all NBA. Like, there's not even one other story worth Talking about, oh, there's a little drama with Summer House, which we'll talk about. And I also want to talk about Jesse Solomon. But literally, the world was watching last night, and we were there. And when the game started and in the first quarter, in the second quarter, like, like, genuinely, like, just bad basketball. Like, I actually could have done a better job myself. And the Knicks were just, like, really getting stunted on. Victor Webanyama was like, seriously being so Ann. When I tell you. Vibes were so low.

[B]

They were horrible.

[A]

Oh, my God. And I kind of wanted to leave. I was like, do we have to stay the whole time when they're down by almost 30 points? Like, no, right. We can leave.

[B]

We could have left. And I actually got. I got text. Jack texted me. He's like, please tell me you stayed right. Because I've left games like that. Like, when you're down 30, sometimes it's just not your night. You can't leave Game 4 of the NBA Finals, especially. Here's the thing.

[A]

You can't leave the playoffs when it's like that. They'll Regular game, sure. But no, by the way, nobody left. There was not one.

[B]

Because it was so early. We went down so early. It wasn't like, okay, it's the middle of the fourth quarter. We're down 30, and it's dead. We were down 30. Literally, we blinked.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And we were down 29.

[A]

Yeah. It was really. It wasn't like this one moment where, like, everything turned around. They were just chipping away. They were down by 29. And then it was 28, and then it was 27. It was kind of painful. And the whole time I was like, they're definitely going to come back and, like, be like an almost. Almost win. But never in my life did I think that they were actually going to win. When I tell you, I thought that the Garden, like, the building was going to lift up off the ground. Like, people were screaming. And Ben takes this shit so seriously. This is, like the most important thing in his life. And he was literally. It was just an arena full of people like Ben, like, seriously holding their heads in shame, crying, excited. Like, the emotions were so extreme.

[B]

This is deep cut childhood trauma. Like, people. No, no, really, people have. I'm so fortunate. I have the greatest family, greatest parents. I don't have any of that. Like, traditional. Like, Josh and I talk about this all the time. Like, Josh has some childhood drama. I have drama with the Knicks. I swear to God, I've been a fan my entire life.

[A]

You don't have childhood drama.

[B]

Yes, I do.

[A]

Not be dramatic. You don't have.

[B]

Yes, I do. Yes, I do.

[A]

Your parents are married.

[B]

17 and 65. I watched every single game. The Knicks in 2015 were 17 and 65.

[A]

Those were like, you know, boys, like, people get molested. Like, please don't think about. Don't even compare.

[B]

Okay, you could have let me make the comparison. You had to bring it dark. You had to bring it dark. You could have let me. Okay, I have childhood trauma from being a Knicks fan, and let me tell you, I was healed.

[A]

That's a better way to say I

[B]

was healed last night. Now I want to bring it back all the way to the beginning. Okay? First and foremost, I went to game one of the NBA finals in San Antonio. In San Antonio. I thought that was the best night of my life. Me and Scooter Braun, we were there. We were having the time of our lives. Tyler Cameron, we were just.

[A]

Just.

[B]

This was it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Let me tell you, it pales. Last night was 100 times better.

[A]

Of course it was in the Garden. You were with your wife. Hello.

[B]

It was.

[A]

You got to sleep in your own bed.

[B]

It was completely electric. You have been. I'm sure you told them. You have been refreshing Ticketmaster. You've been trying to get tickets. You have been trying to get tickets.

[A]

I don't want to spoil the vlog as to, like, how we got tickets. And, yes, we did do pay transparency. We told everyone how much we paid, but you have to watch the vlog to find out. But things worked out really well for us.

[B]

I would say things worked out really well. And if I didn't go to San Antonio, we probably wouldn't have gone to game four. That's all I'll say.

[A]

I have chills. Why do you think that?

[B]

Because of who I met.

[A]

Oh, it's true. It's true. We got our plug.

[B]

Our plug was met in San Antonio.

[A]

Shut up, Brett. It's so true. Don't want to spoil the vlog. But, like, Brett's kind of, like, a major player in the vlog.

[B]

Yeah, Brett is a major player in the vlog. Okay, so that was that first. Even. Even though, like, whatever, it didn't work out, like, we didn't get them the way that we thought maybe we'd get them. The. Your effort did not go unnoticed.

[A]

This whole journey was me surprising Ben because, like, Father's Day is coming up, and I know, like, there's literally the only thing you want in the world is to be at the Garden.

[B]

Well, I guess you're gonna have to find something else. Well, I guess. Yeah. By the way, I heard you last night. No, I'll pay for them. I'll pay for them. No, no, you won't. No, you won't. I paid for them already. They're on my card. You're not reimbursing me and getting out on Father's Day. You're gonna find something not there. They're reimbursed on my card, and that's that. I paid for them. That's that. That's that. What are you going to get me for Father's Day?

[A]

Tickets to games. If you guys watch the Vlog, you'll understand. When we left the stadium, like, it just kept getting better. I really. I feel like I didn't. I had, like, three sips of a cocktail. We had to go to an event first, so I was dead sober. Like, I felt drunk. I felt like I'm on drugs. Like, I don't even remember last time when we left the stadium, I did get, like, a little nervous. And we will talk in the stories about how, like, people in New York are acting really not right. And I'm, like, feeling embarrassed to be a New Yorker because people are being so disgusting. And I'd see these videos on game one, two, and three. Like, the streets of New York sort of erupted. Very Philly, like, and so I was getting a little nervous. We, like, ran out of the stadium and we got in the car, and it was. Besides for, like, the little panic I felt of, like, people maybe, like, stomping our car. It was very thrilling to see, like, people from just all walks of life in the streets, like, jumping for fudgeing. Joy. Like, it was pure joy. Ben was one of them. Like, seriously, I'm sorry. You didn't take your shirt off.

[B]

I couldn't. I couldn't breathe. I think. For what, for an hour? I just said, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God.

[A]

Ben was, like, just dead silent.

[B]

And then as we walked through Penn Station, I just. Like, at. There's just, like, certain moments, you just start to erupt. Yeah. You just, like, scream, let's go. From your belly.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, it just. You can't. You can't control it. We watched the greatest game in the history of basketball. And by the way, if you're not a sports fan, that night, like. Like last night is. Is what sports are about.

[A]

You're not a sports fan. You're obviously a pop culture fan because you're listening to this, and there was so much pop culture to be had. I will say half my vlog is just me zooming in on Taylor Swift. I would say we were probably like 25 rows up from Taylor herself. And it was thrilling. Taylor was there, Kylie was there. All the usuals, of course, like Jimmy Fallon, Tina Fey, Tracy Morgan, Ben Stiller, the whole, like, New York crew.

[B]

Timmy.

[A]

Timmy C. Yeah, but did I say that?

[B]

No, you said Kylie.

[A]

Well, that's the same thing. And then, like, they had announced that Taylor was coming. I didn't know if it was actually going to be true, but she did come. She came with Haim and Mariska Hargitay. It was insane. Like, it was so crazy. It felt like the entire stadium was watching her. Like, everything stopped when she walked in. Like, I didn't know she walked in, but I felt a shift in the vibes before the game started. And I was like, oh, Taylor's here. And I just zoomed in. I was using my phone to, like, be a magnifying glass. I zoomed in. I saw her. It was. It was so crazy. Of course, like, so many pop culture crossovers, which we'll talk about. It was just, like, not to make everything about me, but I can't believe that I was there. Like, I feel like if I was watching from home, I would have had so much fomo.

[B]

I said this last night, and I know that you, like, think I'm really dramatic and, like, you don't agree with me. I think I might be dead.

[A]

Ben was like, are we dead?

[B]

I'm dead. I'm dead and I'm in heaven. Otherwise, none of this makes sense. You're telling me we go to a Knicks game. Okay, we go to a Knicks game with Taylor Swift. Okay? The knicks amount a 29 point comeback. This doesn't happen to the Knicks.

[A]

It doesn't happen to. That's true.

[B]

This doesn't happen to the Knicks.

[A]

Who do you think played the best? Like, obviously OG, right? Like, he's like, the MVP of the night.

[B]

OG's the MVP of the night. But as I watched it back, Brunson did his thing. He helped us chip away, but, yeah, this is.

[A]

He did help us chip away, but,

[B]

like, yeah, this was OG's night.

[A]

They said OG barely played in the second half and he had 31 points. Like, that's insane.

[B]

He had. He had 33 points. Sorry, 33 on 15 shots, which is an unbelievable ratio. Okay? And he has. Brian Windhorst said this, who I hate, by the way. He's like an NBA commentator. I hate him. He's terrible. He's terrible. But he said OG has two statues. If the Knicks win the finals on the same play.

[A]

I've literally.

[B]

On the same play. I'm sorry that you heard. A private FaceTime with Pete Alonzo.

[A]

I just want to say, Ben, I'm

[B]

not allowed to regurgitate from a private conversation.

[A]

Ben is Lady Gaga. There could be 100 people in a room. Like, I've heard you say this OG has two statues. He does 100 people in a room.

[B]

He has OG has two statues. The Chase down block on De' Aaron Fox and then the fucking tip in. And let's talk about that tip in. Jalen Brunson shot that ball with six seconds left over Wemby, which took Wemby out of the paint. So OG could crash and get that tip in. If Wendy's there, he can't get that tip.

[A]

Missed it on purpose now.

[B]

No, no, he obviously tried to make it.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

What? Kind of like a dumb question. Yeah, yeah, he tried to miss it on purpose when they're down one.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was. I'm sorry. Do you think that the Knicks win the championship? Like, is there any world in which the spurs come back from 3? 1, 2, 1, maybe ones. It's never been done.

[B]

All I'm gonna say is one game at a time. I have seen these Knicks do crazier the impossible. The Knicks are. That's the thing. We talk about this all the time. You never want to be lucky like that. Because luck swings both ways. To come back from 29 points, we could lose the whole. We could lose the series, right? That said, Mike Brown put it nicely. He said. He said, you gotta make your own luck. You gotta put yourself out there. You gotta give yourself a chance to be lucky. Okay?

[A]

Be lucky.

[B]

Luck be a lady tonight. Tonight.

[A]

So if you had it your way, would you prefer like that? They went in.

[B]

Yes. Five. Done.

[A]

Go win on the road in San Antonio.

[B]

Yeah, I don't wanna. I don't want to go to another game. I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired. Okay? I'm going to bed at 1 o' clock in the morning. Every night. I'm waking up. Thank God you let me sleep. Oh, my God, that was morning.

[A]

We went to bed at like 1:30. The last time I mentioned I didn't go to 1:30 on New Year's. Like, this is insane.

[B]

Oh, by the way, let me sleep. I woke up at a quarter to eight. Like, it really is.

[A]

That's like that's like noon for a parent.

[B]

No, I know, but it's like these games, why are they starting starting at 8:30?

[A]

It's a problem.

[B]

Just start at 7:30. Who gives a about Los Angeles?

[A]

It's a real problem. I, I agree. Los Angeles.

[B]

Oh, because you're not home from work, you can't watch Knicks and the Spurs. You don't even care.

[A]

I agree. You live on the west coast, prioritize the fans.

[B]

Yes. 7:30 game time would be lovely.

[A]

I want to say that last night they also had the anthem sung by the same person who's amazing on Monday, which I love. I talked about him extensively on the toast. His name is Avery Wilson. He's from the Wiz, the Whiz. He was incredible. But it's kind of crazy to have two.

[B]

I thought back to back performances, I bet you they just like, they were like, we don't want somebody that could maybe up and we know he's amazing and he's down.

[A]

They have people sing at every single game.

[B]

Like, you're so right. I thought that was strange.

[A]

I thought it was weird too. And I'm not complaining because he was stellar.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And shout out to the NYPD for keeping everyone safe. I saw them putting on like their helmets and the like the SWAT uniforms to like go. They were walking towards the garden as everyone was walking away from it because I'm sure like riots were starting and yeah, part of me wants them to win in San Antonio too. Just to like minimize damage done in New York. Like people are.

[B]

Can we talk about that for a second?

[A]

No, that's one of the stories I want to talk about.

[B]

Okay. Okay.

[A]

So the whole.

[B]

Because we don't claim these people, the

[A]

whole episode is going to be very basketball coded. And like it's just hard because I drink a lot of beer and I watch a lot of sports. And so like, yeah, my podcast, like I talk about my interests, which are sports. How by the way, you're a big,

[B]

you're a big beer drinker.

[A]

Can we talk about how Grab a slice. This is.

[B]

It's really Grab a slice.

[A]

I'm so.

[B]

It's actually, it's actually not grab a slice because that was the greatest. You went to the greatest game in the history of sports.

[A]

I know, but like you went to said the grab a slice thing when we were like 16. You wanted like a girlfriend at the time, wife who was just like chill and like grabbed a slice and like that's so beer watching sports and like that's who I Am now.

[B]

Like, okay, okay. That's. That's not. You going to Game 4 of the NBA finals.

[A]

I'm so. Grab a.

[B]

You literally went to the. It was the greatest ticket in the

[A]

history of sports, which is so grab a slice, like. And I grab a slice, like. I felt like I was so chill the whole time.

[B]

You grab a slice. Which is why we drove to the Garden instead of taking the subway and why we parked.

[A]

We're so. Grab a slice, like. I'm so chill. It's insane.

[B]

Want to fix it?

[A]

It's good.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I'm so chill.

[B]

Yeah, you're pretty chill.

[A]

You agree?

[B]

You're pretty chill. We waited for. We sat in traffic for an hour. Actually, it was really 20 minutes.

[A]

I'm obsessed with the fact that you think we drove to the Garden because of me when it was actually my idea to take the subway at mahjong yesterday.

[B]

It was your idea, and then it

[A]

was not my idea.

[B]

And then you switched it. It was your idea to take the subway, and then it was your idea

[A]

to drive, and then you got invited to an event, a restaurant opening that we had to go to before Shout

[B]

Out Avenue, the new avenue in New York.

[A]

So we had to drive, and that was like. You're doing. I don't even know what the you're talking about.

[B]

I didn't. I didn't make us drive, though.

[A]

You did, okay? You absolutely did.

[B]

You know that. You're like. Like, your memories. Your memory is questionable by the way.

[A]

Memory yesterday is not by the way.

[B]

Collectively, we have very questionable memories.

[A]

Why?

[B]

I don't know. I just feel like you make stuff up. I make stuff.

[A]

I don't make stuff up. Like, I'm telling the truth.

[B]

Okay. You make everything up.

[A]

Don't put that on me.

[B]

Okay. You make everything up.

[A]

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[B]

Great.

[A]

Taylor went to the game.

[B]

Yes, she did.

[A]

She was there with Haim, the two sisters. And then she got seated because I watched the whole thing. So she didn't come with Mariska? Mariska was there.

[B]

Of course.

[A]

You know, Mariska and Jalen Brunson are like, best friends. Did you see when the Knicks won, Mariska Hargitay stormed the. Yes, she stormed the Capitol. She stormed the court, and she ran into Rick Brunson's arms.

[B]

You're lying.

[A]

Can you explain? Like, Rick Brunson. So Jalen Brunson's dad is like a coach on the Knicks?

[B]

Jalen Brunson's dad was also an NBA player for the New York Knicks during 1999 when they played and lost to the Spurs.

[A]

Rick Brunson were in the NBA Finals. They lost, and it was 19.

[B]

They lost in five to the spurs in 1999.

[A]

I didn't realize it was to the Spurs. I've chilled.

[B]

Yeah. And there were so many parallels. Remember Tim Duncan, who's now like, a Hall of Famer for the Spurs?

[A]

Yeah, of course. He was on the first.

[B]

He was 22.

[A]

Victor Rabinoma, you're saying Victor Romanyama. Yeah.

[B]

There were so many of those parallels. Rick Brunson, player, NBA.

[A]

And now he's a coach.

[B]

And now he's a coach for the Knicks.

[A]

It's so cute.

[B]

He's been coaching Jalen his whole life. Yeah, it's. It's amazing. The whole thing is amazing.

[A]

Yeah. So Taylor was there. Mariska showed up in a different shirt, and then they obviously had made a shirt for Mariska. So I don't know if you saw Taylor was wearing, like, a blue shirt that looked like it had the, like, the word nicks on it, but it actually said Stevie Nicks.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Which was really cute. One of the Haim sisters was wearing the same thing. They Obviously, like, did this, like, DIY project because one of the other sisters was wearing Nick Colesis. Nicole Kidman. And I just want to say that one was dumb. I didn't like that one. If they all should have been wearing Stevie Nicks, because, like, it's Stevie Nicks.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And Taylor's, like, best friends with Stevie Nick, so I really like the wardrobe. I. I didn't like Nick Cole Kidman. Oh. And no, one of them was also wearing one that said Nickelback.

[B]

That's cute.

[A]

No, I like it. The Stevie Nicks one was the best one. The other ones were silly. Kylie and Timothy were wearing matching chrome hearts. Okay, sorry, I'm getting off. So Taylor was there. But don't you think it's really crazy that. And Taylor is, like, an OG Nick fan? She actually has, like, deep roots in Nick fandom. She's not, like, a bandwagoner.

[B]

So.

[A]

So it's crazy that she went to the Cleveland game with Travis. Now, she didn't wear Cleveland outfits. She didn't wear Nick's outfits. But she was obviously there, like, supporting the Cavs, right?

[B]

No, no, no. I do know. So you're telling me you know for 100, with 100 certainty, she was not wearing anything Cleveland Cavalier related during that game?

[A]

She wearing red. What color are the Cavaliers?

[B]

Red.

[A]

She was wearing maroon.

[B]

Oh, maroon is their color.

[A]

Taylor Swift.

[B]

Because this would be a problem.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then I. And then I can explain.

[A]

Okay. She. No, no. Okay. No. She did not wear maroon. She wore black and jeans.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

She did not wear one ounce.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Actually, her jeans are blue.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And Travis wore all denim.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

And a red calves hat.

[B]

Sure. Okay. Taylor Swift is a Nick fan.

[A]

She is.

[B]

I know for a fact. During game one, I actually sat next to a lovely gentleman who was seated first row, but they wouldn't let him wear his Knicks jersey, and so he's taking it off. Instead of taking it off, he got a worse seat.

[A]

Okay, that's dumb. I just want to say I'm.

[B]

Look. I was looking right across at Shane Gillis. Shane Gillis.

[A]

Oh, is that Die Hard Nick?

[B]

Yeah. No. No, it wasn't. No. Oh, no. These are two separate people.

[A]

Oh, okay. You're being confusing.

[B]

No, I'm not.

[A]

So you're saying Shane Gillis took the seat and took off the jersey.

[B]

He just wasn't wearing anything.

[A]

Yeah. You can't. At an away game, you can't wear the opposing. You can't wear a courtside seat. And last night, actually, that courtside seats, for the most part, like, you really can't buy the Garden. At least. I don't know if this is for every stadium, for the most part. Like, a couple of people have season tickets, like Spike Lee, but for the most part, you can't even buy them. Like, they're given away at the discretion of the Garden to Jimmy Fallon to, I'm sure, like, important business people. So, yeah, they can be strict with the rules and I'm sure because you're

[B]

being invited and you're probably not paying.

[A]

Yeah, that's the thing. Celebrities. Unless, like, Spike Lee has season tickets, but all the other celebrities, like, don't pay.

[B]

No, there's. It's probably like 50. 50. I think a lot of it's corporate, right?

[A]

Like, yeah, right, right, right. Like, you know, like, that's why random white Waterhouse Cooper.

[B]

Sure, sure, sure, sure. Yeah. Taylor Swift is a Nick Finn. If she went to the Cavs game and didn't wear anything related to the Cavs last night, I saw everything that I needed to see.

[A]

She was jumping for joy. She stayed the whole time. She did not stay the whole time at the Cavs game.

[B]

I mean, anybody would be jumping for joy last night.

[A]

That doesn't quiet.

[B]

That's not it.

[A]

She was also drunk, which I, like, love that she's like. She gets drunk. I saw her. It's in my vlog. I was like, filming her the whole time, like a true stalker.

[B]

The guy next. The guy next to me was drunk last night. And let me tell you. Okay, nice kid. Nice kid. Whatever. I'm being nice. You turn to me at one point, you're like, are you burping this kid non stop? He must have had, like 15 beers. Hot dog. Hot dog. I was. I was in his mouth.

[A]

Yeah, okay.

[B]

I was in his mouth. And then, by the way, with like, nine seconds left, you saw. Hey, let's take a quick selfie. Like, I'm in the middle. We're in the middle of a comeback, okay? And he kept asking me. He kept asking me in the fourth quarter. I don't know if you. Man, how famous are you, man? Man, how famous are you? We need a selfie. We need a selfie. My. My ex girlfriend loved you. She loved the toast. Oh, man, she'd be so upset. Oh, man, she'd be so upset. But I don't care. I don't care. I'm here with you. He was blackout.

[A]

He was blackout.

[B]

He was so nice.

[A]

There were a lot of people there alone, which was nice because, like, no one's alone. You're never alone.

[B]

When you're with Brunson, you're never alone. When you're with the Knicks, it's true. Once a Nick, always a Nick.

[A]

So a couple of things about Taylor's presence there. One, just interesting to see how, like, so many people interact with her. One of those people being Kylie Jenner. So I don't know if you know you. Taylor's just like, whenever she goes anywhere, it's like landmines. She has so many, like, feuds or whatever. One of them is, of course, with the Kardashians, Kanye and Kim, the whole song, you know, the letter, the lyric, you know, the saga.

[B]

Yeah. But like, I. I have to assume that now that Kanye's crazy that the Kardashians and her have no beef.

[A]

Well, so Kim, like, when. When Kim is asked about it, she always says, like, we're good, we're good, we're good. But it's like Kim is the one who did it to Taylor. It's not like on Kim to forgive, it's on Taylor.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

And let me tell you, Taylor does not forgive and she does not forget. She wrote, like a whole Reputation album about it. She still writes songs. She wrote a song called thank you, Amy, where the K, the I and the M are all capitalized. Like, she hates Kim.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

So Kylie was there. And now let me tell you, because I was sitting behind him, so I could see they were in the same row, but there was. They were, like, pretty far. Like, and especially for coming and going during, like, halftime and stuff, they were using different sides so they could have gotten away with not saying hello, not hugging, but they did. When everybody stormed the court, there's this video that, like, they're in really close quarters and they both, like, turn and see each other. So they're like, hi. And they hug. And Kelly was like, that was crazy. Yeah, I saw Kylie's eyes. Like, I just know Kylie's her pants. Like, because the thing is, it's been grossly inconvenient for the Kardashians like, to be beefing with Taylor Swift. They have so many kids who are girls around the age of, like, Taylor Swift fans. Like, I'm sure that they all wanted to go to the Eras tour. I'm sure that they. They can't escape the music. Kylie is stormy. It's like five or six years old. Like, six year olds love Taylor Swift. I'm sure they're going to see Toy Story and the new Toy Story movies, all Taylor Swift. Like, I imagine it's been really annoying, but, like, Taylor Hates them for sure. But she was such a queen. Like Taylor's so famous now that like a lot of her feuds are sort of not even worth her time.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

Like it's beneath her to even care.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

She's literally like more famous. Like she's just as Fish. That's why someone at mahjong yesterday was like, why do people care so much about this wedding? And I'm like, because it's really the closest thing we have to a royal wedding here in America. So yeah, she's on such a different level. I don't even know who to compare her to, fame wise. Like the Beatles.

[B]

That's why it's so unbelievable that the Knicks did that last night.

[A]

I don't think they get nervous when they see her.

[B]

Yeah, I think that's exactly why they lost game three.

[A]

She wasn't there.

[B]

No. Trump's in the. Trump's in the building.

[A]

He's all the way up there. Like they barely even know. Like, it's just like a face in a crowd. She's right there. She had probably the best seat in the whole arena. She's at the half court line on the wood. Like ev. I imagine it's actually quite jarring. She is this. That's what I mean. When I, when I said like when she walked in, like the vibes changed in the whole arena. Like she is this presence.

[B]

Yeah. It was crazy.

[A]

I wonder if any of them, you know, where do they, like, where do they stream the press conference afterwards? Like I keep seeing clips but like

[B]

I would like to watch on the exact. On the channel.

[A]

Oh, really?

[B]

Yeah, like right after they have post game interviews. You're kidding. No, like right there. Like, you didn't have to change the channel.

[A]

I'm cracked.

[B]

It's not like hidden from you.

[A]

Oh, I thought it was like. Yeah, like, like an industry thing. Okay.

[B]

But I, but I'm sure that Jalen Brunson is a big Taylor Swift fan because I'm sure that Ali Brunson is

[A]

a big Taylor Swift 100.

[B]

Like there's, there's no very swirly.

[A]

Like she's got that swirl.

[B]

Yes, a hundred percent. So I'm sure that they were freaking out. I'm sure Josh Hart was. I'm sure that, I'm sure that they were so excited that she was there. They are so used to having a list. But she really is, she is another level.

[A]

More so than even like the Lakers. I think that they're front row is like the most insane a list. So. Yes, I think to A degree. They're sort of used to it.

[B]

I think they're sort of used to it, too.

[A]

But, like, if I was in the press conference, which, like, seriously get me a press pass, like, I want to ask, like, what did you guys feel when you saw Taylor Swift? Kylie looked insane. She wore a matching chrome hearts, like denim Luke with Timothy. And this video of them hugging. Like, I could probably watch for two hours and, like, keep seeing new parts of it. Like, it's just. I'm watching it right now. It's insane. And like, Taraji P. Henson in the background. That was also the crazy thing. It was like. Like, everyone was trying to get tickets to this game. It was like the great equalizer. Like, huge celebrities were, like, in the fifth, sixth row. Like, it was insane.

[B]

And that just shows you that celebrities don't pay for tickets.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Because there's a finite number of tickets in the front row. And if you wanted to go and you wanted free tickets, then they're gonna sit you in the first six rows.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Last night's game, though, people slept on it. Ticket prices dropped.

[A]

They did.

[B]

They dropped significantly. I'm not saying that they dropped into a place where it was affordable, but they dropped. You could have entered the garden at three grand and last week it was 10:12. Yeah, everybody blew their load on game three.

[A]

Yeah, everyone. And everyone losing game three took a lot of the. I think, like, wind out from.

[B]

It's not even that I was in. I was in the elevator this morning with a guy going to work wearing his Knicks jersey.

[A]

I saw him. Everyone is wearing their Knicks outfits.

[B]

And I said to him, like, he's like, what a game. I'm like, yeah, I was there. He's like, oh, my God, I have tickets to game six. What I didn't want to tell him is, I don't know if you're going to be going again. Six.

[A]

Right.

[B]

But. But it's so hard to say. If you have one pot of money, are you gonna go?

[A]

Which one do you go to?

[B]

You probably want to go to the one that you think is going to be a close out.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But let me tell you, I really think that was our closeout. I don't know how you go to San Antonio and lose. Yeah, like. Like that was. It does not get better than last night. Yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't get better than last night.

[A]

A little bit more Taylor Swift drama, which is, like, seriously cracking me up. I saw this on Twitter this morning, and I get got by, like, so much AI content, like, so Much F celebrity posted this that I thought for sure Selena Gomez's Instagram story was fake. But one thing about Selena Gomez is, like, she's not of this world. She's the craziest on the planet. And she did write this Instagram story. Okay, so fans are confused by Selena Gomez's very cryptic comment under a picture of Taylor Swift at Nick's game, and people don't know what to make of it. So everyone was at the Garden last night. The way buzzfeed writes stories like, girl, just tell us. So Selena's posting. Hold on. Was that thing that I saw. No, I. Okay, sorry. Yeah, right. So she posted an Instagram story calling out people who have become sudden fans of the Knicks. So she posted, like, a NBA website screenshot, a historic comeback, and then her little comment is mad respect for the game. Okay, congrats to the peeps that represent. What does that mean? What a comeback. So funny how some of y'.

[B]

All.

[A]

How some are all of a sudden fans, though. Lol. So people think that maybe this had something to do with Taylor being there with, you know, friends and having, like, her girl gang moment, and Selena's not there, man.

[B]

Aren't they friends?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Yeah. So that's not what it is, really. Yeah.

[A]

People want to start beef and then wait. And then MTV posted, like, a carousel of pictures of, like, Taylor and her girls being, like, you know, swirly at the game. And Selena Gomez commented. Lol.

[B]

Oh, that's.

[A]

Yeah. No, I'm telling you, like, first of all, Selena Gomez is crazy. She's a massive spurs fan because she is from Texas. So she was documenting herself, like, watching the game. She's in London at 3am on her phone being like, yeah, I'm watching. Then, yeah, MTV posted Mariska Taylor and, like, the girlies. And Selena commented just simply, lol.

[B]

The truth is to. I don't wish on my worst enemy to be a Spurs fan last night.

[A]

So some people think Selena was just, like, lolling at Taylor's funny T shirt. Others assumed it was, like, a playful team rivalry. She spurs their necks. However, some people think that the cryptic comment may have something to do with an Instagram story that Selena apparently posted and deleted after the spurs loss. Which is so funny how some of y' all are all of a sudden fans, though. Like, this is something Selena would do. Her social media is. She's actually been, you know.

[B]

You know this better than me.

[A]

She's been good for, like, a few years, but she's always posting, like, the craziest thing. Like, I'M taking a break. And then she comes back 30 seconds later and starts drama. Like, she's really, like, deeply unwell. So I could see this. But her and Taylor are tried and true. But the good thing is that we have this litmus test coming up for Taylor's wedding of, like, who's in Taylor's life. Like, who was a real friend, who was a real colleague, who was a real acquaintance. Because it's in a thousand person wedding. So she's being quite generous with the invitations. And like, if you're not there, you're not there.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So if Selena's there, like, we're good. If Selena's not.

[B]

I thought they were like, aren't they like best friends?

[A]

Like a decades long friendship?

[B]

Yeah. So I don't.

[A]

I don't know how Taylor's friends with her, though. She seems so crazy.

[B]

I don't think that this has anything to do with that. I think that. I think that this has at least the first comment. Yeah, there are a lot of bandwagon Nick fans. I don't give a.

[A]

Like, you know, talk about that. That pisses me off. People like gatekeeping the Knicks. Like, it's cool that, like, even if you don't live here, it's so exciting. Like, people wanting to be part of it, going to bars, every bar and restaurants and there's so fun and we want that sort of fanfare. It's not like, it's really truly the more the merrier. I know that makes it harder to get tickets and stuff, but like, it is annoying when people are like, well, you're a transplant. Or like, you haven't lived here that long or like, oh, you're just. Now it's like, girl, shut up.

[B]

By the way, it doesn't make it harder to get Nick tickets. Okay? That's like.

[A]

It's hard already.

[B]

It's hard already. It's always gonna be hard. There aren't enough seats for Nick fans. There is enough money. Like, it's too. The tickets are too expensive. That's a totally separate story. These new Nick fans are not coming up to old Nick fans claiming that they're bigger Nick fans. They're just also Nick fans.

[A]

They're just gatekeeping.

[B]

They're also just rooting for the team.

[A]

Gatekeeping.

[B]

So, yeah, I have no. I have no issue with new Nick fans. Like, there was a time. There was a time where I'm cracking. You are on one.

[A]

Am I? Sorry, Am I.

[B]

There is no issue at all with being a new Nick fan. It used to be Embarrassing to be a Nick fan, right? Like, it used to be, like, if you were a Nick fan, you were. You were new. You were a loser.

[A]

If you weren't here for the Raymond Felton era, like, you don't know.

[B]

Oh, so you're gay keeping. Yeah, they were so bad.

[A]

You know what else I found interesting? There were so many celebrities there last night that, like, they did this roundup. They obviously went to every celebrity and, like, had them wave at the camera, but. So there was all those courtside seats, but they were, like two suites full of celebrities. And I found it really interesting, like, who the Garden cheered for because it kept showing everyone. It's like the. They showed Jerry Seinfeld and everybody went wild. Like, the classic people. Then they showed Ben Padgley and Penn Badgley and Nina Dobrev, and let me tell you, like, not one person cheered. Yeah, they showed, like, Tate McCray and Haley Bieber. Like, there were some cheers, but, like, it's very interesting. Like, who's so New York? Like, the people in the audience, like, they don't give a About certain people, like, who otherwise are extremely famous. Kevin Jonas was there. Kiki Palmer was there. There were so many, of course, Liam Neeson, like, the New York people. Like Edie Falco, who plays Soprano. The wife. What's her name? Carmine. Yeah.

[B]

Karma. No, no, Carmela. Carmela.

[A]

No.

[B]

Yeah, Carmela Soprano. Wait, wait, wait. I think Carmela.

[A]

Yeah, I think the other guy.

[B]

Soprano. Carmela Soprano.

[A]

And then, like, the other guy from Sopranos. They were sitting together. Who's also from Blue Bloods, Anthony something. He's like. They got the loudest cheers, and they're not like, the most famous or, like, the most of the moment. It was just very interesting. Who got, like, the craziest cheers?

[B]

Yeah. I'm trying to think, who were they? Who were they definitely silent for? Besides Pen, There was another one, wasn't there?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Who was it?

[A]

I felt bad. Amy Schumer.

[B]

Like, people actually booed her.

[A]

Like, that pisses me off.

[B]

Why would they boo her?

[A]

Because she's like a Zionist.

[B]

Is that what it is?

[A]

Yeah, it's really upsetting because, like, that's my queen right there. So I'm gonna say that I think Selena Gomez was starting stuff, but I guess we'll see if she's at the wedding, like, then that's that on that.

[B]

Agreed.

[A]

That's kind of what's exciting about this wedding. I feel like I do still hold, like, one candle of hope that, like, this whole Taylor Swift, like, lively, like, viewed as Fake. Although I'm pretty sure it's not. And if she was at the wedding, I just think that would be like a really big slate. Oh. You know, they say Taylor's getting married at the Garden.

[B]

And like. Yes. I don't know why she would be getting married at the Garden.

[A]

Because it's so private. There's no windows. You can't fly a drone over. Like, it's literally. And it's a thousand person wedding. And I think they want to get married in New York City for some reason. So it's like, where can you go in a thousand person wedding in the city that's so private? It's kind of an inspired choice, I

[B]

guess, that you could, with unlimited money, make it not look like the Garden.

[A]

Well, yeah, I think a lot of people are like, what? She's gonna have like an altar in front of a basketball hoop? No, they're gonna, like, you're not even gonna see. It's not gonna look like a stadium. Like, when you have unlimited money.

[B]

Like, you're right. They remove the seats.

[A]

Wedding. Like, you walk inside a tent and it looks like there's like drapery. They're gonna do that. Like time, if that's where it is.

[B]

That makes sense.

[A]

I also just don't know if, like, they're saying it's MSG July 3rd. Like, I just don't think we would know.

[B]

But that does. It does make more sense. At first I was like, she's getting married on the next card.

[A]

Yeah, right.

[B]

Like, no, you remove the court. You remove all the courtside seats. All of a sudden you just have this big blank canvas, 20, 30, 000 square foot area to just build tents.

[A]

And I think activate and like, no one can get a picture.

[B]

And to your pointing, crazy security. Crazy security.

[A]

I mean, look how many people were there last night. They had the president on Monday. Like, they're equipped. They're equipped a listers who are coming.

[B]

You're right.

[A]

I know.

[B]

Because it actually does. It makes a little sense. It does. It makes a little sense. And the drone thing is very interesting. Yeah, you can fly a drone anywhere if it's outside, right? Not inside.

[A]

Yeah, it's kind of brilliant.

[B]

It is kind of brilliant. What's our next story?

[A]

Let me. I'll do one more Nick's story and then we'll move on to, like, other topics of discussion. Unfortunately. So the last thing I wanted to talk about is this video that's going viral of Victor Webanyama getting pelted with eggs after the next game. So Victor Webanyama, like, is the star of the other team. He's 22 years old, and he's like 6 8. He's like this.

[B]

He's 7 4.

[A]

Okay, cool. And I think what's like, there are a lot of really tall players, but what's really special about him is, like, if you're really tall, sometimes, like, you're not very coordinated because it takes a long time for, like, your brain to tell your arm to do something. So he's like, very, very coordinated. And he's just like, definitely gonna be. He's been in the league, what, for one year?

[B]

Yeah, he. He's gonna be a great.

[A]

He's gonna be like a legend. He's 22, so he's still, like, really young. And he's French, which I just thought was interesting. And everyone in New York hates him. And I will say, like, some of the Knicks fans were pissing me off last night because it's like, gets no calls. Victor plays dirty.

[B]

And it's like, by the way, Victor Vanyama does play dirty.

[A]

He does. Like, a lot of the. You got you and like, your friends around you, like, the new friends that you made were like, that's a foul.

[B]

And it is.

[A]

He just has a big arm.

[B]

Like, no, no.

[A]

Everything is a conspiracy.

[B]

No, no, no, no, no, no. It's. It's. It's real. It's real. You can watch the highlights. The refs were terrible. That said, you said that he's from France, is he not? He is. He played pro basketball in France, okay? They play dirty overseas. That's a fact. This is a different brand of basketball. And he is playing an overseas brand of basketball where you pull jerseys, where you elbow people, where you are honestly, a piece of like, he really is. He is so dirty. And to be 74 and so dirty. That being said the same way that you said that we have these fair weather Nick fans that are in and all of a sudden everybody's a Nick fan. Let me tell you, we do not claim for one second the person who pelted him with eggs. We do not claim the Nick fan who beat up the street spurs fan, apparently. And we certainly do not claim the Knicks fans in the streets that are destroying property, breaking taxi cabs. I've never seen anything like it. And they are. They are not Nick fans. They are just hooligans in disguise who love chaos. That's it.

[A]

The video of him getting pelted with eggs is so wrong. So I guess. And maybe this is not a thing at, like, every Other city, but, like, because it's in New York City, when, like, they get on their bus, they go to their hotel, when they walk from the bus to the hotel, there's, like, barricades of fans, kind of like when Taylor walks to her apartment. Whereas, like, I think maybe if you were in like, a. Like a more suburban town, it wouldn't be like that. Like a million fans waiting for you by your hotel. Like.

[B]

No, it also get a little bit

[A]

of privacy, but because it's the city, you don't.

[B]

I. I really don't know. I. I was surprised to see that he was out in the street and not, like, going in, like, a back entrance to somewhere that they can't.

[A]

But, like, if you were playing in, like, the middle of Texas, you can, like, pull into a garage, you know?

[B]

Yeah. I don't know why they didn't fly home.

[A]

So there were a lot of fans, like, waiting there, of course, like, booing, whatever. And then somebody threw an egg at him. Like, I just think, like, that's really up. And it's like, It's. Yeah. And then I saw the video of everybody, like, stomping on a cab. Like, stop. Like, that's not. That's not the vibe.

[B]

But by the way, you saying stop. We don't. These people are nowhere in our orbit.

[A]

I know, but these are not Represent your city, your team.

[B]

No, no, they don't. They're. They're. They're transplants that are there.

[A]

Now I know. Oh, now they're trans ones. Now I know how the Philly fans felt when everybody, like, was calling them, like, you know, domestic terrorists.

[B]

Like, you know what? You're right. It's interesting. It's. It's interesting because I was saying that. And I can confidently say that about

[A]

Philly fans in general, but, like, you wouldn't say that about New York fans. Right?

[B]

I can confidently say that these are not Nick fans. So if in order for you to believe me, I need to say confidently that those are not Philly fans. Okay. And they're not Philly fans.

[A]

Like, that's seriously so mean. And he's 22. I, like, not. You know, I can't really watch too much sports as, like, a boy mom because I'm, like, very empathetic. And I was really starting to feel bad for by, like, it's just a lot of pressure on him. And he's very talented, like, skill wise. But I think because he's only 22, he lacks, like, a little bit of, like, a maturity and emotional.

[B]

That's the whole team, the whole team is unbelievable and 22 years old.

[A]

So like, they lack the sort of like emotional strength versus the physical strength. And it just like was really starting to feel bad for him. Like everybody was booing him and like the arena kept cheering like you Wemby, and it's like he's just playing for his team. Like, if he was playing for your guys's team, you would love everything that he was doing.

[B]

Let me, let me just make sure that I made, made this point very crystal clear. Okay? Wemby is such an unbelievably dirty player. Unbelievably dirty. That said, it stays on the court. You do not throw eggs at somebody. You do not curse at somebody in person. This stays on the court. You're watching a basketball game, you're rooting for your team hard the second that that game is over. He's, he's a human. He's a human. He's a fierce competitor. I think he's incredibly dirty. I'm not a fan of his. I'm not a fan at all. Yeah, I'll probably hate him forever. He's one of those, like, I, I, I just.

[A]

What if he ever came to play for the Knicks? You would love him.

[B]

He'll never come to play for the Knicks. He'll never leave San Antonio. Their generational decades long. This is their guy. He will retire a spur.

[A]

Oh, wow. Really?

[B]

Yeah, that's it. They will never let him go.

[A]

This was our final story about the Knicks. So, like, we are going to move

[B]

on to talk about, like, why what the else is going on.

[A]

There's like a couple of other things. Like what if there's anything else you want to say.

[B]

I love the Knicks.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I love OG Anunoby. I love Jalen Brunson. I love Josh Hart. I love Carl Anthony Towns. I love Jose Alvarado.

[A]

Let me tell you, I love that Mitchell Robinson.

[B]

I love Mitchell Robinson.

[A]

But like, he's gotta like, learn how to shoot.

[B]

Like, I love Mikhail Bridges.

[A]

Yeah. Also, I hope that OG Anunoby has like a beautiful woman at home who takes care of him. Like, I don't know. Whenever I see him, I always think like, I hope you have a wife. I don't know anything about him personally.

[B]

I think he does, by the way, shout out Canada for bringing us the Toronto native in OG Anunoby who just seems sweet as sugar.

[A]

I agree.

[B]

His disposition.

[A]

He's very chill.

[B]

He's very chill and he is so good. Yeah, the Knicks are. This was me last night. Oh, My God. Oh, my God. All right, I'm doing one loud one. Oh, my God. Let's go, Nicks.

[A]

Okay, we can stop humiliating. Like, it was so crazy.

[B]

No, me and Penn Station, like, oh, I gave so many hugs to cops. We were just like dapping each other up, walking around.

[A]

We weren't in Penn Station. You keep saying that. We were in Moynihan Station across the street.

[B]

The is the difference.

[A]

It's a bus station.

[B]

What is Moynihan Station?

[A]

It's the bus station. The one across the street.

[B]

By the way, it's gorgeous.

[A]

Yeah, it's new.

[B]

Much nicer than Pen.

[A]

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Oh, yeah. I love Outshine Delicious.

[A]

Okay, our next story. Totally switching gears, but it does still apply to you because I want you to share like a super fun fact about yourself. But Jesse Solomon made a lot of news yesterday because. Because he posted in his Instagram what he believes to be his complete timeline of the Wes Wilson and Amanda Batula romance. So we saw part three, the final part of the reunion on Tuesday and everyone was just pretty much left saying, like, we have no clarity. You can't get your dates right. When did this happen? Who, what? When, Where? Why? How? Like, it was really not a resolution filled, sure. Reunion. Everyone was left with more questions than ever. So Jesse Solomon took it upon himself to use his platform to share what he believes to be his timeline. So he said that's a wrap on the reunion. Thanks for having me. Time to lock in on my music. And he did a carousel pictures of Watch what happens live and him and Andy, Jesse Solomon with the camera. And then this screenshot of what he says is the timeline. It spans from February 10th to March 23rd. On February 10th. I won't read you the whole thing. You can check out his Instagram. He thinks that, like, that's where he. That's where it starts for him. West and Amanda go to dinner in Miami. Him, west and Amanda are all in Miami together. And they go to dinner by themselves and don't invite me. Then it ends on March 31st where he shares the news dropping confirms everything. He calls out west for lying. I ask Wes and you know what? I'm actually glad that he did this because I know that Wes is not like, a main character in this. It's like Kyle, Amanda, Sierra, and West. But he was crying the entire reunion. Is very emotional guy. I think that, like, him and west had a real friendship, and he never. He didn't get anything from West. Nobody did. But he got nothing. And I think he was really expecting, like, a moment with west or a cry, and he got nothing. So I like, of all the people I want to hear from. Yeah. Like, Jesse Solomon is one of them. And you know what? Like, fun fact. Ben's having dinner with Jesse Solomon tonight. Have you met him before?

[B]

We've never met. I'm excited for dinner. We're definitely not going to talk about any of this.

[A]

Oh, you think?

[B]

Yeah, I think. No, I think that he's just, I would hope, just like a. A real nice, normal Jewish guy.

[A]

Well, him and I were dming and I was like, I know you're busy right now with, like, the biggest scandal in reality TV history, but I do think that you should find time to, like, meet my husband, because I think you guys would be great friends. Just.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Especially because he's now, like, doesn't have any, like, his summer. West was his best friend. His brother, they're, like, not speaking, so I don't know if he's from New York City, but I just feel like he needs friends. Like, he seems kind of lost. So I'm excited that you're getting dinner with him. Like, yeah, don't get tea. Just, like, be a friend.

[B]

Friend, be a friend. And I'm also excited his this new song. Okay, I want to talk Wildflower. Is that what it's called? Very good. Wildfire flower wildfire.

[A]

It's so good.

[B]

This song is very catchy.

[A]

It is.

[B]

I. I like it a lot. And I'm so excited. I hope that he's getting something out of reality tv.

[A]

I know.

[B]

Because it's so important to get yours. Otherwise, it just seems to ruin you.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, dear friend Craig Conover. Would you say he's gotten something out of Southern tv? Yeah, a ton.

[A]

Of course.

[B]

I mean, build businesses, work out.

[A]

But he met, like, one of the great loves of his life through reality tv. He built businesses. He. Yeah, I would say, yeah. Yeah, he's gotten a lot about Jesse Solomon.

[B]

Yeah, he's gotten a lot out of it. And the people who get a lot out of it. Great. It's a job. And you use that job to propel a career.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Otherwise it Just ruins your life.

[A]

I think you need to do a verse like on Wildflyer. Love.

[B]

That would be great.

[A]

You need to do I should something.

[B]

I could be the rapper. Yeah. I'm here in the wildflower. Love looking at you. You're my wildflower. Love looking at me. You're my wildflower.

[A]

Love looking at you.

[B]

I'm like Luda.

[A]

Literally. Okay. Like, drop. Drop it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Drops fine. So I can't wait to hear about your dinner with Jesse. Like, just be a friend, you know?

[B]

I'm so excited. That said, I am so tired.

[A]

I know. I can't believe you have to go out tonight. Like, I'm seeing my ass at home.

[B]

I am so tired.

[A]

But two nights this week, we went to bed at midnight. Like, that's insane.

[B]

The Knicks Energy is gonna get me through a bunch of coffees, maybe a little Neuro gum.

[A]

Of course. Of course.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Our fifth and final story is a little bit more summer house news. I'm just sort of closing the loop on something that was.

[B]

I missed the last episode.

[A]

You did?

[B]

I didn't see it. Did anything happen? Anything?

[A]

Actually, no. Like, there wasn't a lot of resolution. There's one more. They did drop a trailer.

[B]

Oh, can I just say something? This is important.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Because I didn't see. I. I didn't watch this. And I'm not going to comment on all the. I'm. The drama's the drama. Okay. This whole arc. That Kyle Cook is a good guy.

[A]

I agree.

[B]

Let's not forget that he called me a scumbag and a liar. And he called me a liar. Not of.

[A]

He called his wife a. And a dumb. Like, what? You're the least of it. Yeah. No, this whole rewriting history that, like, oh, God. Because Amanda, like, slept with someone after her divorce, somehow, like, Amanda being a disgusting friend makes Kyle a good guy. He's still a terrible husband. That was the most frustrating part, especially part two of the reunion where they really dived into Kyle and Amanda's. Everyone is like, rewriting history, being like, yeah, well, Amanda, like, you did this. And it's like he literally called her a and said you in front of everyone. That's what he did on camera, in front of the world, in front of their friends. Like, please. This whole revisionist history. I completely agree with you. This Kyle Cook arc, like, it's like, okay, like, let's. Yeah, let's do that.

[B]

I also don't ever remember when it was appropriate to say, oh, yeah, I cheated, but that's because I was in a Loveless marriage.

[A]

We weren't having sex.

[B]

I. I don't even know. I don't know when that became a thing. So he's a cheater. He called me a liar. He was me. He was mean to me.

[A]

If Kyle.

[B]

He was mean.

[A]

If Kyle Cook, like just apologize to you, would you forgive him?

[B]

Of course. Yeah, of course. Like, it's not, it's not like loves to tell. It's not that good. It's not that deep. I just like, like this idea that he is now all of a sudden a good guy just because his ex wife did something bad. The real villain here is very clearly West.

[A]

Well, that's real hero here is very clearly an A lister. So. Okay, do you remember before the reunion aired, but it had taped, there was an audio that got leaked. Like somebody recorded pieces of the reunion and it was a really big deal. Bravo took it really seriously and they did launch an investigation. It was someone from production. They figured it out. But basically somebody recorded at the reunion, they film it and then release it like a month later. But somebody recorded like a couple of voice memos, like minutes of. And it was kind of tfill like I lived for it. But Bravo took it really seriously because it was like a huge breach of privacy. Well, Eddie Cohen has finally exposed who solved the Summer House leak and it is an A lister. So Andy Cohen revealed that the Oscar winning Bravo superfan Jennifer Lawrence.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Was responsible for solving the case of the Summer House House reunion audio leak. And he said on Watch happens, like there's been a lot of speculation of who that Bravo super fan was with a lot of people assuming it was Jennifer Lawrence. Andy continued, and I just want to say Bravo superfans are the best. You rode with us on this. You knew that this was bad and that it was leaked and that you wanted to see it. When we presented the facts, Bravo fans are the most loyal and the most dedicated. And they said that Jennifer Lawrence's online sleuthing helped the network catch the person who leaked the audio. Page Six reach out to Jennifer Lawrence's rep for comment. They haven't heard back. I just want to say there was a lot of speculation that it was Jennifer Lawrence. Like people just made that up online like it was so. And then like Andy, like, never spoke on who. I just want to say, like, I think he's lying. Like, I know that's crazy, but I think that because I remember hearing Andy talk about it on radio being like, you know, we made this whole big deal about who solved the audio and like Now I can't really say. And I don't know, I just feel like. Like there's this really convenient rumor that it was Jennifer Lawrence. And like they can't prove that it wasn't. So. Yeah, it was Jennifer Lawrence.

[B]

I also don't understand, like, how could she have figured it out?

[A]

Right? That's what I mean. In his watch, happens live admission. He didn't say how she did it. With some online sleuthing. Okay, we can all do that. Like, why Jennifer Lawrence?

[B]

But online sleuthing of what?

[A]

Yeah, no, he gave no context. I kind of feel like he's lying. I know.

[B]

I'm with you.

[A]

Right? Not conspiracy theorists.

[B]

But like, why not? Why not us? The kid next to me last night, the entire time, all he was, he was looking. He's like, like, why not us? Why can't it be us? Why can't we do this?

[A]

That's so. Nick's like so like everyone's so like self pitying.

[B]

He was really, though. I. I think he manifested it the whole time. Yeah, he was like, we were. Why not us?

[A]

The whole arena was packed with them. But we were in a particularly crazy.

[B]

Can we talk about. Are the people behind us okay?

[A]

No, like everyone's commentary and so funny.

[B]

Like, not the commentary. Them making us stand up when they had their own row.

[A]

No, like, New Yorkers think that, like, I guess New Yorkers just like talk loud so they think that nobody can hear them. But like, the commentary around us was just like truly crazy. There was like an actual crazy person three rows in front of us. It was extremely entertaining. But when vibes were low, like in the second quarter, we were down by like 30 points and like nobody could score for their lives. It was dark. Like these, like, everyone's emotions were just like. So you could feel them.

[B]

Yeah, it was. It was crazy. The highs and lows of a lifetime.

[A]

It was almost like I was almost about to be so annoyed that I was going to get home at midnight. The knicks lost by 30. We spent money on tickets. I was about to be so annoyed. And it just turned. It was really. It was amazing. It was amazing.

[B]

Literally when. And you will find out more in on the Patreon vlog. When Brett came up to us at halftime, he's like, I'm so sorry you're at this game. And then as I left, he's like, you're welcome. That. Yeah, if you're not watching. I made a roller coaster with my index finger.

[A]

It was really. I'm sure my aura ring. I gotta check my steps. That's.

[B]

My heart rate was through the roof, by the way. We need to go hydrate. Is that what you're doing right now? Yeah, I need like a stick or something.

[A]

Yeah, we're not like. No, we need to stay.

[B]

I need my electrolytes. I'm really just.

[A]

We went to bed at midnight. No, we went to bed at 1:30. Like that's insane, you guys. And I couldn't even sleep when I got home. I was just like sort of revved up.

[B]

I could have stayed up all night.

[A]

Yeah. And it wasn't even tired.

[B]

No, I wasn't. I wasn't tired. I'm tired now. I wasn't tired.

[A]

Well, thank you for joining us. Like seriously perfect timing.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Thank you guys for watching. Thank you so much for listening. Tomorrow Jackie's back so we'll be regular scheduled program. Can't wait to repeat everything I said here to her tomorrow. Thank you so much for listening to the toast of my morning show. We deliver the fastest reads you need to know every Monday through Friday and YouTube are watching us on YouTube. Please subscribe. Thumbs up. So available Spotify, Apple podcasts and YouTube where we listen to podcast minutes. Toasty 5 star be better beautiful sounding a weekly town. You have an amazing day. Thank you, Ben. Make sure good guys follow Ben on Instagram for more insane content and we will see you on the next one. Love you. Bye.