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Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast. It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host. It's your favorite show, the best five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the Toast. They sound amazing. Welcome back to the Toast and happy Friday. Today, I'm honored and a little bit threatened to be sitting down with my arch nemesis, Josh Pack Peck. Hello, Josh.
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B
Peg. What an honor. Claudia. I'm so happy to be here. We are the two biggest people in bed. Softer's life.
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A
Yeah, it's okay. So, like, I have so many questions for you, because, you know, we talk about you and the good guys on the toast, like, almost every single day, and it's almost always negative. Do you know that?
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B
I know it's negative. I know you blame us for a lot. I know we're constantly being gaslit. So say more.
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A
Yeah, I always wonder because, like, Ben knows about it and he, like, laughs, but sometimes he's like, I think you're taking it too far. And I wonder if Josh knows, because I know Page listens, and I know a lot of people in Paige's life lesson. So I'm like, does Josh know the lore? Here's the lore. It's that, like, you know, Ben had a podcast, and it didn't take off. I don't know. You're familiar with Ben's first podcast, the Schmitz?
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B
I remember. I didn't know that he actually recorded episodes.
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A
No, they had, like, a couple of months, and it just wasn't a good show.
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B
It's hard.
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A
Yeah, it is.
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B
It's hard.
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A
And so when Ben wanted to do another podcast, and it was with Josh, we were like, oh, this is perfect. I don't think we saw a world in which, like, this show that Ben did, like, would start to eclipse ours, like Hillary Duff and Francia Reisa. And so now we hate you.
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B
Okay.
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A
And now we hate you. And I hate you also because, like, Ben loves you so much. And it's like, oh, who are you talking to? Josh. It's like, oh, he's got to do this with Josh. And it's like, well, you're my husband. He loves you so much. You're kind of just, like, always kind of superseding me both in personal and at business. So what do you have to say for yourself, Josh?
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B
We're just making so much money. No. We just can't get over it. I love that Ben. God, what a friend. What a friend I got out of this.
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A
He does. I. I know you Know that Ben loves you, but I don't think, you know, like, the extent. And I actually only recently realized it too, because with Jackie's husband, and I know you get this all the time, but, like, the show you were on molded the minds of many young men. And we all think of it as, like, this, like, fun show. And it was. But for boys specifically, like, of our age demographic, you are like a hero. And for Ben to be working with his hero. And Ben didn't have a lot of things. He loved growing up. Like, he loved the Knicks, but he didn't have, like, I had, like, you know, the Spice Girls. He loved Drake and Josh. And he also loved Josh because Ben was this, like, chubby kid most of his life. He saw himself in you, and I think the fact that you're his best friend, like, he can't believe it.
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B
I, I, I feel the same way. I never knew there would be a boy like Ben safer in my life.
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A
Right?
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B
And I, He. I remember. And this is like a pretty, A pivotal moment in our, Our, Our relationship together. I think it was like a year in the pod, and I literally, something switched in my head because until then, we're getting used to each other, and I'm like, total child actor energy. Like, the product, the product, the product, you know, like, we have to deliver. And I, I literally, I think he did something that was so impressive. I said, this friendship is more important than the pod.
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A
That's how Ben feels too.
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B
I made a turn and I was like, if the pod's successful, great, but it will never be to the detriment of our friendship.
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A
And I think the POD is successful because you do. You guys have this really genuine friendship. And obviously I'm threatened by it, but I'm also really happy for you guys.
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B
But you're joking, right? Only, Only because, like, we are so you're the, the toast, little brother.
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A
Like, but so many people have always said, like, you guys should have, like, a male equivalent show, like the Roast, where it. The Toast for Men. Sort of how, like, Barstool has a lot of daily shows. And we were like, yeah, sure, whatever. And this just randomly, like, came up. You and Ben just met Fortuitously, Yeah, through work, and it wasn't planned. And we really do have this, like, male equivalent now. Even though a lot of your listeners are women, we run into them on the street all the time. And I don't know whose idea it was for you and Ben to call your listeners morons.
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B
It was Ben.
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A
It is the funniest thing when People come up to us, so they're like, I'm a. At first I was like, okay. Like that. I'm sorry. And it is so funny. It's brilliant. And I think people have really taken, like, their podcast listeners, like, giving them a name, taken, like, a little too far, and sometimes it feels really forced.
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B
Yes.
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A
Oh, my God. Morons. Is hysterical.
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B
I just think our secret sauce is that Ben and I are gay, gay, gay. But we love women. Like, we're married to women, but, like, there's just.
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A
It feels a little faking gay.
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B
Because there's always. I feel like with the View, they've always wanted to do, like, a male version.
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A
Yes.
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B
And then they got, like, four alphas around a table. They were like, who wants to listen to this?
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A
Totally.
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B
Get a couple BBs, couple Beta Boys like us, yapping, yenting. I mean, we could really get on the phone for an hour and just have our own little sewing circle.
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A
A thousand percent. I can see you guys getting into crafts.
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B
Yeah. We're investing in a cricket for the studio.
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A
1000%. Totally random segue. But that just reminded me one of the funniest things I saw recently, and Ben was explaining it to me before it happened, that you threw your son a birthday party. You threw two. What? I was at in la, so super fun hoedown theme. Who doesn't love a rodeo?
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B
Sure.
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A
And. And then we weren't in town for your. It was Max's birthday, this next one. And the theme was 7 11.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And I didn't know 711 could be a theme. I think it's so funny when kids get obsessed with, like, random things, then you just, like, make it the theme of their party. Where did the inspiration for the 711 birthday party come from?
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B
It is so random. But if you think about a 7 11, it is the epicenter of all things that a kid would love. Totally eat hot dogs, slushies, lovely people.
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A
Behind the counter, colorful neon lights.
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B
Mr. Beast has a whole installation festivals, which is his product.
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A
Yes. I've had. I. I just had a feasible candy bar. It's pretty good.
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B
It's pretty good.
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A
Y.
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B
So I think the whole thing is that he. It's my wife, and she basically was like, this is happening. I'm like, is this hot? And she's like, this is hot. The amount of feedback of our 7 11. And let me tell you, I reach out to prime. I reached out to feastables. I reached out to. To Shark Ninja to get slushy machines, and they came through in such a big way.
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A
That is so funny. It's literally hysterical. And it looked so cute and fun.
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B
Thanks.
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A
Kids parties are not so fun. Let's be real. Like, it's a lot of work. They're early in the morning, and I feel like they just. It's not the parties I'm used to going to, but, like, that's my life now.
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B
Yes.
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A
And it's. It's kind of upsetting.
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B
I hate that everyone uses it as an opportunity to get shithouse just drunk.
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A
Do they? Oh, that doesn't happen in. Is that la?
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B
This is a big LA thing. They'll be like, drunken kids parties, bouncy house. I'm downing two blue moons and a hard seltzer, and we'll see what happens. I'm like. I'm like, Mitch, it's 11 Mitch.
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A
I want to party with Mitch. That sounds actually really fun. That's not at all what I was referring to. I feel like there's so. So just like. Like, hard. It's like you're, like, bending over, picking the kid up, throwing them on the thing, and it's like, I'm tired.
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B
Yeah.
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A
I didn't know people were getting lit at kids parties. Maybe I haven't reached that level of parenthood yet.
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B
They're getting totally lit. Hold on. Let's talk backstory real quick. I ran here from Madison Avenue. I'm schmitzing as we talk. Talk to the viewers.
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A
Yeah, of course. Guys, this is kind of like an episode of the Schwitz, Ben's failed original podcast. More so about sports. But I'm sweating, too. Honestly, when you're a breastfeeding mama, every podcast you record is an episode of the Schmitz. Because you're always schmitz. And now I'm cracking up. You don't even. You don't even look like you're sweating. By the way, that's a great color shirt to wear.
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B
Thank you.
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A
If you want to pause, we can cut, like, not a cut. How do you feel when it comes to editing on the dying?
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B
And I. I wore a tinted moisturizer because I knew I was going to be on camera today. Look at this. My makeup's coming up.
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A
Which tinted moisturizer? Just Josh Peck.
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B
Thomas Roth.
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A
That's a good one.
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B
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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A
And did you pick that yourself or did Paige pick it up?
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B
I picked it up myself.
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A
Do you wear makeup when you're, like, acting, like, on set and stuff? Most men are wearing a lot. Yeah, like, like blush or just, like, powder? No, it's not makeup.
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B
I mean, I feel like they're the most. I just love that there's going to be so many cutaways of me for dolls. Yeah. Well, we're like a foundation and like, you know, a little under the eyes. A little help.
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A
And how does that make you feel?
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B
Pretty.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Beautiful.
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A
When you get home, do you, like, immediately wipe it off? You leave it on until you shower?
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B
I notice it when I'm doing a selfie that I'm like.
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A
That are like, smoother and brighter, but it's good.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Now we talk on the toast a lot about how acting seems like the worst job in the world. Now, obviously it's like high paid and fabulous. So there are a lot of elements that make people think it's like, really glamorous. But I think there are parts of it that people don't realize, like, are miss, like really long hours. Sometimes you shoot on location, away from your family. And so, like, when you're as busy as you are because you act, but you also do a lot of other things that, like, make you money. Does it make you want to act less?
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B
It makes me want to wait for dope.
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A
Dope opportunities, which you've had quite a few of. Most recently, you were in an episode of the Last of Us. Like, the big finale was this huge reveal that you were there, everyone was freaking out.
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B
It's, you know, there's nothing like a moment where you're on a set where you know it has the potential to be great. And the Last of Us, Oppenheimer. Were those feelings.
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A
Yeah.
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B
It's so hard because for so many people, they watch TV and movies and they go like, oh, my God, like, in any version of it, it's the goal. Whether you're on a forgettable sitcom on Fox, which I've been on plenty, or you're doing something at that level. But it's nothing to complain about. But the truth is, is that the most glamorous part is what people are enjoying.
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A
Yeah. Or also, like, the after, like doing press and traveling, getting dressed up for a red carpet. But like, the actual act of acting.
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B
Right.
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A
And, like, it's tedious. Not only that, and I probably would talk to Paige about this, but, like, I'm sorry, you're never going to convince me that it's not weird. Like, when you're kissing someone, but, like, you're married. Do you know what I mean?
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B
I wonder if she cares.
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A
Okay. Because I. Oh, and I need to talk to you about this. I recently watched, like, what you think is, like, your best work, which is The Wackiness. Thank you. Ben was like, we have to watch this movie. Josh says it's his best work. We watch it. It was an amazing movie. But, like, you are kissing someone and then, like, has Paige seen it?
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B
Oh, yeah, yeah. She had seen it, actually. I remember it was such a green flag when we first dated because it had come out, like, I don't know, maybe two years before we had met, but she's like, I saw the Wackness, and she brought that up first before Drake and Josh. And I was like, you played this well. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, we all know what you really saw first, but the fact that you're, like, honoring the Wackness right now. I. Yeah, it's. But, you know, we didn't know each other yet.
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A
Of course. But now, like, when you have to do a role where, like, you have a romantic partner. You were on How I met your father. Yeah. You kissed.
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B
Oh, we made out. Yeah, Me and Hillary.
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A
Hillary Dove. That's just, like, a slay on your part. Honestly, I'm sure Paige was just, like, happy for you to be, like, making out with Hillary Dove.
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B
I mean, I will say. I. I don't know if this is, like, weird. When I was younger, I was like, great, of course. What a bonus.
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A
Cool.
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B
Like, I get to kiss this, like, pretty person who hopefully is. Is excited about it as well.
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A
100%.
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B
Now, as an adult, I really do feel the awkward. You do?
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A
Yeah.
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B
Married. Like, I just feel. And I also just want to be like, what we've come to realize over the last 10 years in the best way is just like that. For a long time, actresses, women were put in positions where they were uncomfortable and couldn't voice that.
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A
Right.
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B
So, like, my always. The first thing I say when something like that is in the script is I go, you take the lead, you tell me everything that you're comfortable and uncomfortable with. Like, let's be super clear about it, and I will just match you as you see fit. Right. Um, and so, yeah, now it just feels like very much like I want to honor the script, but superseding that. I want to honor the actress.
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A
Love that.
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B
Right?
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A
Yeah. No, it's definitely. I appreciate you just, like, acknowledging the weirdness, because I think when actors are asked about it, the party line is like, no, it's not weird. It's a part of the job my husband gets. And it's like, sure, you're an actor, but you're also a human being. And I'm sorry. Like, there's. It's Weird.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And I get that it's a part of your job, and I'm sorry. But, like, just acknowledge that it's weird.
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B
It's. It can be. It can be totally weird. I wonder, though, like, I feel like you guys have. I know Ben and I have talked about it on the pod, so you never know. But, like, you and Ben were kind of each other's be, right. Yes. You didn't have, like, a big roster of relationships.
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A
Ben was my first boyfriend, and I think I was like, Ben's second girlfriend.
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B
Yes.
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A
So, yes. I don't have experience. I think about that a lot. Like, when people. Like when people ran into our dear Toasters Advice Dragon, they're like, well, we ran into his ex girlfriend. Like, oh, my God. I could never. I definitely have a low bar because. Yes. I've never had to experience, like, knowing any girls or Ben knowing any guys. Like, I've never experienced, like, the person I love and the person I ended up with, like, having a history. I could not handle it. Like, I would seriously, I would kill someone. Like, I really would. So I'm definitely more sensitive to it. Yes.
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B
I'm a sniper in the grass. So I don't do it anymore because we have, like, three kids, so I won. But, like, early on, I would, like, mention a boy that Paige might have once made out with at a party. I'd be like, well, I hope I'm not, you know, doing it as wonderfully as, you know, I don't know, Jason, whatever his name was. You know, just some hot model guys bringing it up. Yeah. Yeah. And she's like. And she would be like. She would have to, like, cycle through her memory.
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A
Are you talking about.
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B
I also, when I started dating, Paige had had, like, fling with, let's just call it an Internet personality that was slightly, like, public. Like, we date. I thought we were dating. I don't think she thought we were dating.
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A
I'm dying. I have no idea who you're talking about.
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B
I guess we can say it.
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A
Say it.
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B
This girl, Hanabeth. Okay, so we, like, hung out for a minute and. And it was just like, very much like a month in my life at 23 years old. But Paige would just be like, she's very pretty, John. She's very nice person.
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A
Like, but I didn't know this.
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B
Hung out for a. And she would. And like, that when we first started dating, she'd be like. I think she brought it up once. That's so funny that on Instagram she said, good for you. And I was like, thank you so much.
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A
You know, I've never experienced that, and I think it's for the best because, like, I'm not emotionally mature enough. I know. It's, like, a part of life. Most people. I could never.
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B
Yeah, I understand. I mean, this is your person. I. But then it's interesting, right? Like, and Ben and I have talked about this, because Paige and I have. We're very monogamous. It's her and I. But we've had a few friends who've, like, talked about open relationships that they were in. And it just doesn't seem tenable to me in any way.
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A
I mean, I'm watching the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, which that whole group started with a swinging scandal. They were all, like. They say they weren't having sex with each other, but they were, like, having sex in the same room and, like, swinging.
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B
I'm not swinging. I'm sitting.
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A
Yeah. 1,000% crazy. I could never. And first of all, those things never end the way you want them to. It always ends with, like, somebody catching feelings or something going wrong. I know. I'm open to all ways of life. I don't judge anyone. But I'm sorry. It's crazy. I could never.
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B
The best part is that our friends who've done that who like people, and we know them. Like, you know, they're. They're very. Like, they're not close.
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A
You don't know them super well.
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B
They're not dear.
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A
Right.
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B
But, like, they. Their issue was that they hated that people talked about it. Like, they wanted to have the white picket fence and the nuclear family and.
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A
The pta, and it's totally private.
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B
And then also, like, swinger parties. Living that life. And I'm like, no, no, you can't have both.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Like, of course people are going to talk about it. This is the most interesting shit.
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A
It is. And it's literally the premise of, like, every show.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Never. I don't know anyone who has successfully kept it, but it always comes out.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Because people are just, like, naturally gossipy. Now, before we dive in, I do want to tell you one more time. We're always talking about you on the toast is because one of the people we always talk about is Meghan Markle. She is obviously just, like, a very interesting person. She's always making news, and she's always just, like, being crazy. And so Jackie's always calling her Megan. So Jackie did ask me to get just, like, a quick sound bite of saying Meghan Markle, if you don't mind.
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B
You realize it's a big ask.
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A
I know.
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B
And you can say no for Jackie. It's fine.
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A
Okay.
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B
Meghan Markle.
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A
Okay. Now, Josh, I know you've done your homework and I so appreciate you texting me yesterday being like, what can I learn about pop culture now? The stories today, thankfully are a little bit more human interest and I chose stories just for you because you guys are always doing hilarious stories on the good guys. So I tried to mimic a little bit more what the good guys elk is. But we do need to talk about what's going on with Chase coast and Kelsey Ballerini. So, Josh Peck, are you ready for the Fast5?
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B
So ready.
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A
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Visit velvet caviar.com use code toast at checkout. That's V E L V E T C-A-V-I A R.com use code toast for buy one get one free on phone cases, accessories and more. Okay, Chase Stokes, okay. He's putting up some turn Instagram stories. So a little bit of backstory. They were dated for three years. This was like supposed to be a rebound relationship for him. She got divorced, wrote this album about her divorce. It went like, became a bigger star than ever. Started like dating. Chase jokes. Everybody loved it. It's like, yeah, her ex husband. Then it ended up not being a rebound at all. It was like a very real relationship. Three years. There were rumors that they broke up. They never confirmed it. He was still liking her photos. They were spotted together in Croatia. So everybody I think thought like maybe they went on a break or whatever. The, the party line was like they're probably back together. Then last night he goes and posts like the most turned Instagram stories of all time. Don't believe the media. I'm blocked. I did nothing wrong. Sorry. I tried. Then he posted another one. Be like, sorry to the fans. I know you guys believed in us, like, using the fans really turn stuff. And to be honest, this gave me the ick almost immediately. I assumed at first that he was hacked, because this is not something you do to somebody who you were in, like, a real relationship with. I think a lot of celebrities have, like, short flings, but this is somebody you lived with for three years. Like, you don't act like this. I honestly. I don't know why they broke up. Now. It's giving, like, he's. To me. He's the toxic one now. Like, this is such a crazy thing to do. Imagine if you and Paige were having issues and you went on your Instagram. You were like, guys, I know you love me and Paige, but she blocked me.
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B
Like, what? It's so deep. It's so me coded. It's so me coded in my weakest moment. There have been so many times where I've wanted to go to the Internet and be like, guys, you just have to understand, I'm a good, good boy. But he. You cannot.
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A
You cannot. No. The.
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B
The. I would have ripped that out of Chase's hand. I'd be like, chase, not today.
- [21:42]
A
The urge to clear your name when people are talking about you is real. And I think, like, a lot of people, they see this and they're judgmental, but unless you've been in the position where, like, the Internet is saying, like, the biggest lies about you and you, the best route is to not respond. It's so hard. The human reaction is just to want to immediately clear your name, but you look so crazy. And now I'm like, I don't even think he's clearing his name.
- [22:02]
B
The where.
- [22:03]
A
The place that he lost me was when he was, like, kind of pandering to the fans. He was like, I know you guys believed in us being like, I'm trying to stay together, and she's the devil. It's really toxic behavior. And, like, I'm officially out on this relationship. I was counting on them. I actually thought that they were going to end up together, and I was rooting for them, but I'm. I'm currently not unless I find out that he was hacked.
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B
I mean, the truth is, with a name like Kelsey Ballerini, like, you can.
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A
Only be a star.
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B
Only a star?
- [22:26]
A
Yeah.
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B
Like, there's no woman named Kelsey Ballerini at H R Block.
- [22:29]
A
It's so true.
- [22:31]
B
There's no Kelsey Ballerini at a bon pond.
- [22:33]
A
There's no Kelsey Ballerini at Aldi, you know? Yes, she was made for the stage.
- [22:37]
B
Made to be a star, but agreed. And what it's giving me is. And God bless them both. I hope they're happy. But, like, I. She's obviously, like, in love with him. Yeah. Like, that's what it's giving. Because that reaction of him being like, I'm blocked, to me, it's someone. I would block someone when I was like, I'm so effed up by this.
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A
Yeah.
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B
That, like, I need to remove you from coming into my orbit.
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A
It also makes me think, like, he did something really bad. Because you don't just block an ex unless it ends really poorly. Something happened. But if you end it amicably, like, you don't block someone. It's, like, immature. They're, like, in their 30s. I don't think they would just be blocking people.
- [23:13]
B
They're in their 30s.
- [23:14]
A
What is your, like, thesis on blocking people?
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B
I'm a big phone. Delete phone number. Delete.
- [23:22]
A
Oh, that's so interesting. You know, I do that too, but for different reasons.
- [23:25]
B
It's a hot strat. Why do you do it?
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A
Because I find, like, if I'm talking about someone or I'm, like, thinking about, like, sending a screenshot being like, how lame is this? And they're in my brain. If I, like, let's say a screenshot of your story and I wanted to send it, being, like, how lame is this? Yeah, but you're in my brain. I would send it to Josh Peck.
- [23:39]
B
Like, do you know, I. It's my biggest fear, and I've done it.
- [23:42]
A
So when I. There's somebody I hate who I would never text anymore, but I might find myself talking shit about them, I delete their phone number for my own safety.
- [23:48]
B
This was a thing that I did during dating because I didn't want to be, like, drunk calling.
- [23:53]
A
Yeah.
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B
Yeah. So I would. If I met someone, they gave me their number, whatever. We went on a date. If I texted them once and I didn't get a text back, I would get. I would give technology a little bit.
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A
Of, like, maybe they didn't get it. Maybe.
- [24:07]
B
Okay, sure. Green bubble. You know, they're switching wireless providers.
- [24:11]
A
Sure. For sure.
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B
To T Mobile. And something got lost in the tower.
- [24:16]
A
Sure, sure, sure.
- [24:18]
B
So I would write one more text. No response. Delete it. Because I would want no temptation to text them again.
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A
Follow up.
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B
I do that now with, like, seasonal friends, because sometimes I'll just Feel like I know that if I text again, I'm gonna feel bad about me a thousand percent. And then. But then sometimes I get a text from a number I don't recognize and they'll.
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A
But. But saying, who is this? Is 100 a sly.
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B
I. I love who is this?
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A
I agree.
- [24:43]
B
I love how crestfallen they become.
- [24:45]
A
Yes. No, it's. It's humbling. Like, you didn't answer me. Well, now I don't know you.
- [24:48]
B
Yeah.
- [24:49]
A
And love that. Yeah.
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B
Photo.
- [24:50]
A
But I'm watching the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives and like, when they argue with each other and like, they have, like a friendship break up, they block each other. Now, I don't know if this is like a Gen Z thing. I've never blocked anybody that I personally know, ever. Like, the worst I'll do is unfollow them. To block somebody you know is really crazy. Unless they're like, harassing you, which is what this makes it seem like Chase Stokes is doing. You don't block someone who is not bothering you. Do you know what I mean?
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B
I think that. And. Or you just don't want to risk having that. That weak moment because you're so.
- [25:24]
A
That's true too. Yes. Yes.
- [25:25]
B
What's clear is it's not amicable and people are really hurting.
- [25:30]
A
Do you watch out of Rings?
- [25:31]
B
I don't. Should I?
- [25:33]
A
No.
- [25:34]
B
Okay.
- [25:35]
A
Ben loves it. And I loved it too. But it's like now on their fourth or fifth season and like, we're really just like, we're stretching it far too much. They didn't need to go past like two max three seasons.
- [25:45]
B
And it's just pretty. It's very pretty, people.
- [25:47]
A
It's national treasure for Gen Z. And you know, Ben's favorite movie on the planet is National Treasure.
- [25:51]
B
Really?
- [25:52]
A
Oh, my God.
- [25:53]
B
Steal the card. Constitution.
- [25:54]
A
Declaration of Independence.
- [25:55]
B
Declaration of Independence.
- [25:57]
A
Constitution. While we're at it. Sure. Ben loves that movie.
- [26:02]
B
I love that he's a Nick Cage, Stan.
- [26:04]
A
Oh, huge. Huge. But, like, kind of limited to national.
- [26:07]
B
Treasure if I can get him on the pod.
- [26:08]
A
Nicholas Cage. But first of all, that's an amazing idea.
- [26:11]
B
Yes.
- [26:11]
A
And Ben would fly out for it. Like, Ben loves. He doesn't actually love Nicholas Cage. He loves the character, whatever his name is in the, in the movie.
- [26:19]
B
Yeah.
- [26:19]
A
That's who he loves.
- [26:20]
B
I love that on the Good guys, we have the widest variety and array.
- [26:23]
A
Of guests and not like three time Good guys nominee Terry Dubrow being on like quarterly.
- [26:28]
B
God Bless.
- [26:28]
A
That's Ben's favorite. Like, he loves Terry Dubrow.
- [26:31]
B
Terry Dubrow is the mensch of all men.
- [26:33]
A
And he's so smart.
- [26:34]
B
He's the best. He's just trained. He is so media trained and so smart. And then we'll have the Queen of Melrose and then Hillary. And then Hillary, have Ms. Pat.
- [26:44]
A
Like, you guys have a very wide range, and you're always making news. Like, most recently, John Stamos sort of blew up your podcast. You guys were everywhere.
- [26:52]
B
He really did.
- [26:53]
A
You do have, like, benchmark moments where, like, I feel like every year something crazy happens on the good guys. Like, of course, Hillary Duff was huge.
- [26:59]
B
Sure.
- [26:59]
A
Francia, Reesa, Selena Gomez, that whole thing.
- [27:02]
B
Huge.
- [27:03]
A
Now Lori Loughlin and John Stamos and Drake. Drake. Oh, my God. That was the moment since Drake. How did you feel about that? Like, now hindsight. You waited a long time to, like, have this sort of reunion with Drake. It was very sensitive, the documentary and everything. Of course, then you did it. It was so well received. How do you feel about it now? And you guys still, like, talk now, right? I just thought you guys made a video together.
- [27:25]
B
Yeah, we're buds. I'm, like, so proud of him as. Especially in watching his. The courage that he had to. To do that documentary and then now seeing him as a father. And just, like, I really look back at that time, and I think what all came to fruition over the last year was, like, we were kids.
- [27:44]
A
Totally. It was all foist upon you, like, all of this.
- [27:47]
B
Yeah.
- [27:47]
A
Trauma.
- [27:48]
B
And we were not in a. You know, our. The ups and downs of our relationship is no surprise to me now because we were not. We were sort of pitted against each other and.
- [27:57]
A
No, no. Even adult is built to withstand, like, what you guys were put through on that show.
- [28:02]
B
Yeah, I think that's right. And so it makes me so happy to have a great relationship with him.
- [28:07]
A
I think it makes everyone so happy.
- [28:09]
B
Yeah. I'm like, really? Because it makes the entire sort of saga voyage of, like, that time in our life. Like, it just makes me reflect on it in a. In a positive way.
- [28:20]
A
Right. At least you're able to walk away from it with a great friendship because you guys walked away with no money. You made no money. That was. I read your book and, by the way, one of my favorite celebrity memoirs, which, like, I feel an expert in. Celebrity memoirs.
- [28:31]
B
Yes.
- [28:31]
A
Is your book. It was. Was so good. And not just. I think everybody would be like, oh, what's it like to be a child star? And, like, that's a very. But everything that happened after that was, like, even Crazier. I don't think a lot of people know about your journey with sobriety. It was literally the best book. I think about it all the time. I'm always referencing it. And I think it also came out when a lot of child stars memoirs were sort of getting picked up. Jeanette McCurdy. And you guys came from the same world. Your book was amazing. I, like, I loved it so much. And also just talking about what it was like to be a child star who was heavier than the other child star. And as somebody who struggled with her weight, like, you guys, it's such a good book. Thank you.
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B
No.
- [29:07]
A
So good.
- [29:08]
B
But I think, like, to Drake and to Drake's credit, and I think where we finally met in the middle was he always was living in like. But our relationship should be like this.
- [29:15]
A
Yeah.
- [29:16]
B
And I was living in the past of like. But our relationship was this. How can we get there? And I think we finally come to this moment of, like, just honoring and respecting each other. I'm just super happy for him. And I'm glad that the world is happy, too.
- [29:28]
A
Everyone's obsessed. And that was. Yeah, guys are like, have sort of like five hall of Fame moments. That was definitely the top one. That was huge. Was that your most downloaded episode?
- [29:36]
B
I think that or Hillary might be, like, insane.
- [29:39]
A
How famous Hillary Duff is.
- [29:40]
B
Like, she deserves to be as beloved.
- [29:43]
A
That's what Ben said. She's as good as amazing.
- [29:45]
B
Yeah, she's as good as it gets.
- [29:47]
A
That's good to hear.
- [29:47]
B
And she's like a real she.
- [29:49]
A
She's like a mom. She's like a regular gal.
- [29:50]
B
She would have so much fun with us.
- [29:52]
A
Would she? You know, I have, like, childhood trauma with Hillary Duff, but I forget.
- [29:55]
B
I know. But, you know, list well, I've forgiven her. Ever happened to the Atlantis in the bomb is at the baccarat table.
- [30:02]
A
I have forgiven. I've moved on. I hope she has to.
- [30:04]
B
I'm sure.
- [30:05]
A
All right.
- [30:05]
B
You know, Ben wanted us to bring that up on the interview.
- [30:07]
A
I'm like, I know I don't die.
- [30:09]
B
I was like, I don't think we can.
- [30:11]
A
The thing is, she was brunette.
- [30:13]
B
Different time.
- [30:14]
A
Exactly.
- [30:15]
B
Yes.
- [30:15]
A
My next story, I chose specifically for you because it's about a celebrity weight loss. A dramatic one. Jelly Roll. Have you seen him?
- [30:21]
B
He looks amazing.
- [30:22]
A
He looks amazing. But then he shaved his face and I think it really showed. Showed how different he looks. I'm going to show you a picture of him.
- [30:27]
B
Yeah. Yeah.
- [30:28]
A
He looks like another human being.
- [30:30]
B
I saw that.
- [30:32]
A
Insane.
- [30:33]
B
He looks Amazing.
- [30:34]
A
Now, I don't know exactly how much weight that he's. He's lost, but it has been really. What's the word I'm looking for?
- [30:41]
B
Like, dramatics. It's slow.
- [30:45]
A
Not slow, but, like, it's happened over time because I think a lot of people are like, oh, he got weight loss surgery, or he's on Ozempic. But I actually feel like we've been talking about Jelly's, like, slow weight loss, and he was so big that, like, it's like he had lost 70 pounds. And it looked exactly the same.
- [30:58]
B
Right.
- [30:59]
A
It's been like two or three years now. And that is how long it takes to, like, lose this amount of weight. How much weight did you lose total, and how long did it take you?
- [31:06]
B
I was probably my biggest. I was like 295.
- [31:10]
A
Okay.
- [31:10]
B
And I'm not. You know, I'm like 5 11.
- [31:13]
A
Right.
- [31:13]
B
So I was like 295. And then at my lowest, I was probably 170. And that. Probably. Wow. I'm like, 195 now. But, yeah, that was epic.
- [31:22]
A
Had been, like, popular at the time that you were going on your journey.
- [31:26]
B
Yeah.
- [31:26]
A
Do you think you would have partook?
- [31:28]
B
It's such an incredible thing now, and it's. It's an amazing tool. And I think that anyone who has takes issue with it. Like, it's misguided.
- [31:36]
A
I agree. It's also probably just, like, a lack of education.
- [31:39]
B
I think so 100%. I don't know. You know, the way I really look at it is, like, it was such a short time in my life. Like, I really got super. I was, like, a cute, chubby kid. Within reason.
- [31:50]
A
Yes. And you were a kid, which is important.
- [31:52]
B
Like, well, till I was 13 and then the wheels popped off and I started, you know, eating chocolate different than my fellows. Like, I was blacking out in your pantry. Like, waking up with Capri sun wrappers, being like, where am I? So. But I was, like, you know, numbing. Obviously, I was numbing some stuff, and. But that was only, like, 13. And then by the time I was 19, I was the weight I am now. So it was kind of this.
- [32:14]
A
I guess you were just so famous and you're Singus.
- [32:17]
B
It's reruns. My awkward years are in reruns.
- [32:20]
A
And it's just, like, embedded in the minds of young people. And so I think that's how, like, a lot of people remember you. When people see you in person now, do they say you look great? Yeah.
- [32:29]
B
They do still remark yesterday on the Plane. This lovely orthodox man who was like, I. I loved you on Drake and Josh. And I was like. And he's like, and obviously you look very different now. And I'm like, it's been 20 years time.
- [32:40]
A
That's. I hope I do look different.
- [32:41]
B
Yeah.
- [32:42]
A
That's so crazy that people still mention it.
- [32:44]
B
Yeah.
- [32:44]
A
Wow. I mean, I guess it just speaks to, like, how big that show was. But the funny thing about Jelly Rolls is I watched this documentary, and he's a person who struggled with addiction, and he. It was very clear that he wasn't fully healed because he substituted a lot of his addictions for food and for alcohol. So he wasn't, like, totally sober, but he was, you know, clean from drugs. And I think that him losing weight is obviously, like, great for his health, but I think it speaks more to some sort of healing journey that he's on because he definitely. I remember thinking, like, documentaries are supposed to be, like, at the end of a journey. And he so wasn't at the end of it. And I'm like, well, I'm glad he's not doing drugs anymore. But he still lived, like, such an unhealthy lifestyle. And you could see it in the documentary. And he said that too. But I guess, like, being addicted to donuts is being, you know, better than being addicted to crack. So when I see him lose weight, obviously it's great. Like, being, you know, healthy is great, but it's more so, like, I think he's probably really worked on his insides more than his outsides.
- [33:36]
B
I don't know. There were definitely times where I was using and 170 pounds and been like, I can't live like this, but I look great. Did you. Oh, my God.
- [33:43]
A
Well, that's another funny thing that reminds me of Matthew Perry. When you would watch Friends, you could see the seasons where he was clearly using and seasons where he wasn't because he had such dramatic weight loss. And at the very. The last episode of, like, season seven and then the first episode of season eight are supposed to be the same night. It's like the night something crazy happens. So they leave you on a cliffhanger and he comes back the next season, like, 40 pounds underweight. It's insane, but it's supposed to be, like, the same exact night. And it's clear that, like, that's at the peak of his use. So. Yeah, and. And obviously all of that, like, playing out on tv, which I. You experienced too, is, like, even more damaging.
- [34:18]
B
Yeah. You know, I do 12 step, and I have for the last 17 years. And there's like a phrase that if you get sober and you don't do anything to change yourself after, you'll just become a better bank robber.
- [34:30]
A
Interesting.
- [34:30]
B
Yeah. The idea is just like, that getting sober is sort of the prerequisite, and then it allows you to start doing the inner work and the growth. And I've known plenty of guys who've had 10, 20, 30 years sober in their divorce, smoke two packs a day and only eat fast food. And I'm like, I don't want what you have.
- [34:48]
A
What do you feel like you worked on most after you, like, got being sober under your belt?
- [34:52]
B
This is a better question for my wife. Yeah. It's relentless growth. This is what's been revealed to me. The only way to coast is by going downhill. And like, at every turn, I've had to look at these things. In my 20s, it was about like kind of an ego death with. With facing this idea of who is my identity? Is it the actor kid? Is it the provider for my family? Is it. Or like, can I just. Am I enough? Right. And then in my 30s, I started building these things of having a wife and having kids and whatnot. And then it became like, well, can I really live with another person and have a true relationship and communicate and build this thing? Because Paige has this ace in her corner of like, my family doesn't leave.
- [35:34]
A
Right.
- [35:34]
B
We are a strong, healthy family.
- [35:36]
A
I just met her mom and her sisters. They're first of all, like, all, so gorgeous. And they were amazing. Like, you married into, like, such a killer family. Yeah.
- [35:43]
B
I'm not calling my mother in law a babe, by the way.
- [35:45]
A
No, no. By the way. She's. And she's gorgeous.
- [35:47]
B
They're beautiful.
- [35:47]
A
Yes. They're like model gazelles. I've never seen anything like it inside and out.
- [35:52]
B
And. Yeah. And so I've had to learn. And I think a lot of people think by the time they get into their 30s, they just go, I'm baked.
- [36:01]
A
You know, I'm done.
- [36:02]
B
Frosting's on. Yeah.
- [36:04]
A
I am who I am.
- [36:05]
B
I'm Funfetti Diane. You know what I mean? And I'm like, diane, maybe we could upgrade. Maybe we can add another tier to that cake. Maybe you're a little dry, you know what I mean? And it's like, like, I think it's willing to work on that stuff. I've learned it through working with Ben. Cuz I've never had like a. A business partner.
- [36:23]
A
Right. And I've had like a hard. It can Be like a hard dynamic.
- [36:26]
B
And like you have a business part partner, but she's your sister.
- [36:29]
A
So I, I think it makes it easier. But I think a lot of people see that being like, it would be harder for me to work with my sister. I think it's just like I, I now I can never imagine working with a stranger. I'd be like so awkward.
- [36:39]
B
It's a lot to learn and Ben is great cuz he'll like shepherd me through it. And we, we've been forced to communicate well and talk about what we need or things that we could be doing better. And it's made me a much better person now.
- [36:51]
A
Speaking of Diane, before I dive into the next story, you very recently did a movie with Diane Keaton. I did, and she just passed away. What was she, like, legend? Yeah, like just what you would think.
- [37:02]
B
I did this movie, Summer Camp and a bunch of legends.
- [37:05]
A
Kathy Bates.
- [37:06]
B
Right, Kathy Bates. Eugene Levy.
- [37:08]
A
Wow.
- [37:09]
B
It was pretty great. And she was just, first of all, she wore her own wardrobe.
- [37:15]
A
Sick.
- [37:16]
B
So the clues in the movie were hers. I love that she is as brilliant and as like bubbly and charming as you can imagine. But then like, I remember after like the third day of filming, she's like, you're just so cute. And then gave me the finger. She's like, have a great day. And I'm like, that's so Diane. Like she just was, she kept you on your toes. Yeah, but what a legend.
- [37:38]
A
That's such a pinch me moment for like, I think a lot of people want to work with, like, who's like, like who's an actor, like, whose career you look up to. Like, you like, who's your role model?
- [37:48]
B
The person I would dream to work with is Denzel. Okay. I just, I love me some Denzel. I love that I even like him in interviews lately. He said something so recently because he's sort of become a, like a preacher in addition to an actor. And he was like, to God goes the glory. The mistakes were mine. But you know, he said it like, Denzel, I love that God goes to glory, but the mistakes were mine.
- [38:09]
A
I was like, I love that Denzel.
- [38:11]
B
Chilling. That's hot.
- [38:13]
A
So you look like you would love to work with him, but who's, whose career do you look at? And being like, I want to have something similar.
- [38:18]
B
I don't know, interesting because like, my career is so weird.
- [38:22]
A
Well, that's true. You're sort of blazing your own path a little bit. I love that. Be your own role model.
- [38:27]
B
Yeah. I don't Know, like, if. If I can, you know, Obviously there were people like Robin Williams up to who, like, had that beautiful sort of blend of comedy and drama.
- [38:37]
A
We just watched the Eddie Murphy documentary. Have you seen it?
- [38:39]
B
No. It's amazing. He's a genius.
- [38:41]
A
He's a geni. He's like, Ben's favorite. I, like, love him. I watched, like, Shrek, and I loved the Nutty professor, but, like, I didn't really know the. The magnitude of how major he was and how famous of a movie star he was, like, long before my time. The documentary was insane. Don't watch the last 20 minutes. Like, they, they. They let it go on for, like, 20 minutes too long, which made me hate it, but it was insane.
- [39:01]
B
He's a genius.
- [39:02]
A
Yeah.
- [39:03]
B
And I think people like that. I remember I worked with Robin Williams daughter Zelda.
- [39:07]
A
Wow.
- [39:08]
B
And she was wonderful. And I remember she, like, looked at me one day. She's like, you love my dad, huh? And I was like, I love you, dad.
- [39:14]
A
That's so sweet.
- [39:15]
B
She, like, told me a story about him on the set of Good Morning Vietnam, which was like, his first big movie when he came out of the sitcom world. And it just was like, yeah, he's just the great.
- [39:26]
A
What did you work on with her?
- [39:27]
B
We did this little indie movie called Locating Silver Lake. I got a couple of those in the canon.
- [39:31]
A
You're so indie.
- [39:33]
B
I'm so indie. I really am.
- [39:36]
A
Okay. Somebody who's not indie. Taylor Swift gift.
- [39:38]
B
No.
- [39:38]
A
She's making news more so her brother, he's on Raya. And it's funny how Raya used to be this, like, extremely, like, closed door, mysterious thing. Every time a celebrity's on Ryan, now it's in the news. It's like the least exclusive type of place. But he's on Rio, which he was engaged to a girl who is actually in that iconic photo of Taylor that she posted on Instagram the night she was playing Kansas City. The night she met Travis. She was like, see you tonight, Kansas City. And she was like, like, I don't know how that girl fumbled, because if I'm engaged to Austin Swift, like, I'm never letting him break up with me. I am the perfect girlfriend. Blowjobs in the morning, blowjobs at night. Like, anything to stay in the family. So I would love to know what happened. But he's single, he's on Raya. Love that for him.
- [40:19]
B
Wow. I'm.
- [40:20]
A
The screenshot of his profile is, like.
- [40:23]
B
He calls himself Kid.
- [40:24]
A
Okay, here's the thing. He calls himself artist management. Film producer.
- [40:30]
B
Her. Rough.
- [40:31]
A
Rough. But on Raya, I just feel like that's actually quite ordinary. Then they. They make you. I think Tag must be his Instagram. And it says Austin Kingsley Swift.
- [40:41]
B
Yeah. My profession would just be. I'm trying my best, trying hard, doing the most I want.
- [40:47]
A
Did you ever go on apps like, you and Paige met before that and.
- [40:50]
B
You and Ben as well.
- [40:51]
A
And I'm so sometimes I like, look at the apps. I'm like, I actually think I have fun. Like, okay, I'm great at curating. Like, a profile.
- [40:57]
B
What would your riot profile look. Look like?
- [40:59]
A
Okay, like the skinniest picture of me you've ever seen in your whole life.
- [41:01]
B
But it's got to be a carousel, no.
- [41:04]
A
Yes. I think you have to choose a few. But, like, the first one comes up, that's like the one that catches people eye. People's eye. And then you also play a song, right? Like, what would. It's supposed to be? Like, a song that's like an anthem of your life.
- [41:13]
B
Yes.
- [41:14]
A
I probably would play my own song if I'm being honest. Like, what's the point in having music if you can't put it on your ride profile.
- [41:19]
B
Good Guys theme.
- [41:21]
A
Two Jews, both big, too small for the good guys. You also inspire. You inspire us a lot here at the Toast.
- [41:30]
B
That's an honor.
- [41:31]
A
That is the best thing you've ever created.
- [41:34]
B
Thank you.
- [41:34]
A
I know you were an Oppenheimer and I know you have three children, but nothing has ever been better than you originally on the piano, wrote that song.
- [41:41]
B
I wrote that song and I tooled around for it for a year of just like. And by this time, like, my kids knew it. We would sing it at like, the kids love it. And then Ben was like, enough of this. We need it. And I said, okay, I'm going to enlist Super Chris Abraham, who helped write the Drake and Josh theme song.
- [41:59]
A
Insane or he. He.
- [42:00]
B
He didn't write Drake and a guy named Backhousemike wrote the theme song. But super Chris wrote a lot of the music for Drake and Josh.
- [42:07]
A
I mean, the song sounds like Drake and Josh adjacent.
- [42:10]
B
That's the. That's an honor.
- [42:12]
A
That's his, like. That's his sound.
- [42:13]
B
Yeah, that's. He's like. He sort of was. Was integral in creating in this sound that was so, like, I just wanted people to listen to it and go, like, ugh. Like the feeling of everything.
- [42:24]
A
Nostalgic. Fun.
- [42:26]
B
Yeah.
- [42:26]
A
Just.
- [42:27]
B
Just like. Just got home from school.
- [42:28]
A
Yes. Yes.
- [42:29]
B
Yeah. And it's just.
- [42:30]
A
That's exactly what it sounds like.
- [42:31]
B
Yeah. So I love it. But yeah, I. So I would have that. And then I would just have my carousel of photos would be me with the same backdrop, but just different faces.
- [42:41]
A
Oh, interesting. Would you actually use it? You have, like, pictures. I'm sure you have a picture with Christopher Nolan.
- [42:45]
B
I do.
- [42:46]
A
You use it to flex picture of you and Diane Keaton.
- [42:50]
B
No, but that's so douchey. That's so cool.
- [42:52]
A
I know, but that's what Ry is for.
- [42:53]
B
You can't do. I wouldn't do it.
- [42:55]
A
It. I would. Because I actually weirdly have a picture with, like, a lot of. I have a picture with Leonardo DiCaprio.
- [42:59]
B
Who.
- [43:00]
A
Yeah, we're like, on opposite ends of this, like, big group photo, but still, I just, like, circle him and circle me.
- [43:05]
B
Yeah.
- [43:06]
A
Who else? I have a picture with Caitlyn Jenner. I'd probably include that.
- [43:09]
B
That's awesome.
- [43:10]
A
Yeah, I have a picture with Joe Jonas. Like, I'd probably just have it be like, TR's greatest hits.
- [43:14]
B
That would be amazing. What would be funny is if you had Caitlyn, like, do the audio for Uriah. Like, instead of a song, it's just Caitlyn being like, I love Claudia. That's my.
- [43:27]
A
I would love that.
- [43:27]
B
She would be like, you'd be lucky to date her.
- [43:30]
A
You would? Yes. She's right. I love her.
- [43:32]
B
I love Caitlyn Jenner's Everything.
- [43:34]
A
What do you think it's like, to date as often? Swift, like, obviously very easy, but also really hard because, like, how do you know he needs to do, like, kind of one of those, like, Netflix movies where, like, a prince goes undercover to find true love. He really, like, it's impossible for him to find somebody who, without knowing what their intentions are.
- [43:54]
B
But the problem is, is what is he looking for? Like, I know that if, God forbid, God forbid, Paige and I ever got divorced, I would do just fine because I wouldn't dare get on the apps because I know her sisters and her would roast me so hard.
- [44:05]
A
He would be like in their group.
- [44:07]
B
Chats, blowing up, and they would know within seven seconds.
- [44:09]
A
And so everyone was headed to them.
- [44:11]
B
But I have, like, to me, a 10 is like acute CVS, pharmacy tech.
- [44:17]
A
Love that.
- [44:17]
B
Like, she's handing me my Wellbutrin and I'm like, do you want to go get a coffee?
- [44:21]
A
Oh, my God, that's. You're so old school like that. That doesn't happen these days. And if it did, it'd be like, ok, well, you're a serial killer.
- [44:27]
B
Yeah. Like, I'm not.
- [44:28]
A
I'm not going anywhere with you.
- [44:29]
B
I'm not going after, like, you know, the third Instagram, the new Netflix show.
- [44:33]
A
You're not? No, I am.
- [44:35]
B
Yeah. Yeah.
- [44:36]
A
The one thing I feel like that's really missing from my career is sort of using my dating life to rise my star. Do you know what I mean? I think a lot of like, young starlets, young influencers, young podcasters, they're spotted out.
- [44:49]
B
Yeah.
- [44:50]
A
I think if I was single, honestly, play, I could go on a date with John Mayer. That's just what I'm saying. He's dating an influencer right now. Like, I could. She's brunette. We look exactly the same.
- [45:00]
B
I really see that for you.
- [45:01]
A
So unfortunately, I'm like married and he's the crush of. I mean, so John Mayer. I did update everyone. John Mayer has, like, long been my celebrity Crush for like 20 years up until like two years ago now. He kind of gives me the ick. It's like he's like 50 and he's never been married and he's just like always. It's like eternal playbook boy. Like, when you're 30, that's hot. When you're 50, that's sad.
- [45:21]
B
You feel that about Leo too?
- [45:23]
A
Yeah, but I never found him. Like, he wasn't my type. He's not my crush. John Mayer looks like Ben, by the way. Slay. And yeah, he was like my major crush. And I love his music. Like, I've seen his concert like five times. So up until like three years ago, he was my crush. I. I've moved on. Joe Manganel is also my crush. He's still my crush.
- [45:39]
B
Oh, please.
- [45:40]
A
Obsessed. Have you worked with him?
- [45:41]
B
No, but he's gorge.
- [45:43]
A
You like, he's your crush guy too, is he?
- [45:45]
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [45:46]
A
Who is your celebrity crush?
- [45:47]
B
Oh, my celebrity crush.
- [45:49]
A
I was thinking, besides your wife, of course.
- [45:50]
B
I like. I mean, my celebrity crush my whole life was a ba. Ba Rafaeli.
- [45:56]
A
Oh, that's an extremely good one. You know, she's currently on trial for tax evasion in Israel.
- [46:02]
B
Even better.
- [46:03]
A
Yeah.
- [46:04]
B
I would get common interest, the best counsel.
- [46:06]
A
Of course.
- [46:06]
B
I don't love taxes.
- [46:07]
A
Of course. Who does?
- [46:08]
B
I like a crafty 1000% who post their weight. 1000% and you know, but like, she's like in her early 20s, so I feel weird saying this, but like, I recently been like, wow, Millie Bobby Brown is stunning.
- [46:19]
A
Yes, she is.
- [46:20]
B
But you know, with, with due Respect, I'm a 39 year old man and that's.
- [46:24]
A
It's not happening.
- [46:25]
B
It's crazy.
- [46:26]
A
All right, a little human interest. A woman's going viral. We love a mom going viral. Her husband suggested that they hire a hot nanny, so she did. She hired a man with a six pack. His name is Big Vic Beginning and everyone is just obsessed with this story. So Vincent Hickerson was looking to hire a nanny. He wasn't expecting to decide on a very attractive singer songwriter, Manny. So in a video posted on November 1st on his Instagram account, he shared a series of photos of his wife posing next to his kids nanny who was pictured shirtless and flaunting his abs. I told my wife I wanted a hot nanny for the kids and this is how it turned out. I love that.
- [47:03]
B
Wow.
- [47:03]
A
How do you feel about hananis and how do you feel about maleness nannies?
- [47:08]
B
I just think we're not used to it. But if there was like a. A really good looking male nanny that, that Paige brought into the fold, I'd be like, you know what, Paige? Like you have needs to. And if it just is making you happy on a day to day basis to see his like obliques when lifting Meyer. God bless.
- [47:27]
A
That's big of you. I'm always saying here at the toast, there are certain things men can do and there are certain things women can do and that's okay. So when it comes to being nannies, like, sorry, sorry. That's not a job for a man. When it comes to flying a plane, not a job for a woman. No, I'm kidding. But like there really are things. I'm sorry. Like I would prefer to have a female nanny.
- [47:50]
B
What about like a male like preschool teacher?
- [47:52]
A
No, I don't know. I feel like teaching is like for the girls. Like there are certain things that are for the girls. I mean. Okay. And it's just, I'm not saying like you can't do it and you can't be just as good, but like my preference. It's okay to have preferences. Is my preference like, no, I want a girl. Like, I think girly teachers like are just girly.
- [48:09]
B
There's like a maternal energy.
- [48:10]
A
Exactly, exactly. That makes me toxic for sure. But like, I don't care.
- [48:14]
B
Right, right, right.
- [48:15]
A
I don't. And so I would not hire a male nanny. But it makes me think of that storyline in Sex in the City when Charlotte has like this insanely hot nanny who doesn't wear a bra and like her tits stand up on their own. She's actually the actress from. You ever seen. She's out of my league. Oh, yeah, Blonde, like insane.
- [48:29]
B
I did a movie with her. Yeah. Alice Eve.
- [48:31]
A
Is she, like, Australian?
- [48:33]
B
British?
- [48:33]
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She's gorgeous.
- [48:35]
B
Gor.
- [48:36]
A
Were you single when you did a movie with her?
- [48:38]
B
I was, but it wasn't happening. God bless her, and I don't blame her. Another indie.
- [48:44]
A
What did you do with her?
- [48:45]
B
It was a small containment thriller called ATM Small.
- [48:49]
A
What?
- [48:50]
B
So it was a containment thriller, which was sort of a thing this time, where we are locked in, like, an ATM vestibule with a killer on the outside, and we have to. It's a fun watch.
- [48:59]
A
Oh, my.
- [49:00]
B
Listen, my cannon is splittin movie. What?
- [49:03]
A
You were in a spooky, like, horror film? Oh, my God, I hate horror movies.
- [49:06]
B
It's the move. I think it's like the only. Like, you can either be in a Christopher Nolan movie, a really. A big hit on Netflix, or a horror movie. That's, like, the only way you're gonna break through.
- [49:16]
A
Interesting.
- [49:16]
B
I think so.
- [49:17]
A
I love that. That actually reminds me of another thing from Matthew Perry's book. He told this insane story where he was out while he was using. Okay. He was out at Mr. Chow, and he met M. Night Shyamalan, like, the insanely talented did. They spent the whole night together, like, literally going from bar to bar, like, getting wasted. Like, he said it was the best night of his life. He gave him his contact and was like, I would love to work with you. And M. Night was like, what? Really? The next morning, he found out it was just, like, an Indian guy. It was not M. Night Shimmer.
- [49:46]
B
No.
- [49:47]
A
Yeah. Oh, I know. It was the craziest story. And that's why he was like, wait, you want to work with me?
- [49:53]
B
That's.
- [49:54]
A
It was an insane story.
- [49:56]
B
That's.
- [49:56]
A
That's one of also, like, an excellent. I forget when people ask me, like, my favorite celebrity memoirs, I forget about Matthew Perry's. It was really good.
- [50:03]
B
I mean, God bless him. And I will say that I've known a couple people that have worked with him like you. You don't hear a negative thing about it.
- [50:10]
A
Really?
- [50:10]
B
No. Just beloved.
- [50:12]
A
Yeah. Such a sad story.
- [50:13]
B
Yeah.
- [50:14]
A
All right. Our fifth and final is some huge news of the world of cheese. And actually, I don't know if you know this. I know that you are a client of the United Talent Agency.
- [50:22]
B
What's my. Oh, my God. This is. This is horrible. I'm Amazon livestream. Things going off. Oh, my God. What's happening here? Okay, sorry. Jeez.
- [50:32]
A
I know that you are a client of the United Talent Agencies. I Am.
- [50:35]
B
Indeed I am.
- [50:36]
A
Parmigiano Reggiano just got signed as client.
- [50:39]
B
What?
- [50:39]
A
Yeah. Okay. So ready?
- [50:40]
B
Oh, great. My age is going to be busy with Parmesan.
- [50:44]
A
Like, literally.
- [50:44]
B
One more thing for her to be busy with.
- [50:46]
A
Uta, which represents stars like Timothy Chalamet, Kirsten Dunst, Bad Bunny, Josh Peck.
- [50:51]
B
Thank you.
- [50:52]
A
Has signed the governing body for Parmigiano Reggiano, which is the Parmigiano Reggiano Consortium, as a new client. This partnership is meant to place Parmigiano Reggiano products in movies and TV shows. The cheesy association shared in a statement with the Hollywood Reporter that the they explained this allows us to connect with new audiences in an authentic and relevant way. Way. Neither Parmigiano Reggiano Consortium nor UTA immediately responded to people's requests for comment. I don't understand how a wheel of cheese can have a talent agent, but, like, that's the world we live in. Like, the AI Actor. What do you think about the AI Actress? What's her name or whatever? She's, like, taking the world by storm.
- [51:30]
B
Let her take over. I've had a good enough career. I've been in a containment thriller.
- [51:35]
A
It's so true. With Alice.
- [51:37]
B
With Alice. Eve.
- [51:38]
A
Yeah.
- [51:38]
B
I'm doing just fine.
- [51:39]
A
So true.
- [51:40]
B
I just can't believe that there's going to be one. One more reason for my agents to be distracted by what's next. Pasta water.
- [51:46]
A
Yeah. It's hard enough to get your agents on the phone.
- [51:48]
B
Oh, my God.
- [51:48]
A
Now with a major client.
- [51:50]
B
Assign. Avocado. Literally.
- [51:52]
A
This is so stupid. Like, I don't get it.
- [51:55]
B
Deeply dumb now.
- [51:56]
A
Is it making you consider switching agencies?
- [51:58]
B
I just. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
- [52:01]
A
Right away. I.
- [52:02]
B
But, like, Parmesan's had its moment. The pasta wheel.
- [52:06]
A
I know. I feel like actually, Parmesan is not the cheese of the moment. It's kind of eternal. It's always, like, on the table.
- [52:11]
B
Like, if they were like, we're signing.
- [52:12]
A
Munster, that would be shocking.
- [52:15]
B
Yeah. Like, if they were like, we're getting into bed with Colby, Jack.
- [52:19]
A
I'd say that's different.
- [52:21]
B
Brave.
- [52:21]
A
Brave. Right? You know, this is so basic.
- [52:23]
B
Like, they're gonna build parm. That's easy.
- [52:25]
A
I didn't know, like, somebody owned parm. Do you know what I mean?
- [52:28]
B
Yeah, I. It's just like, a cheese, and it's like. And what we know, it's raw.
- [52:32]
A
Right.
- [52:32]
B
People love that. It's wrong.
- [52:33]
A
Reggiano.
- [52:34]
B
R.F. caitlyn loves. You know. Dude, I don't know. Uta. What? God bless you. I hope they make you a huge commission.
- [52:44]
A
Right. And I hope you don't take too much time away from finding Josh Pek's next big role.
- [52:48]
B
Yes.
- [52:49]
A
What's a show you would die to be on right now? Like, what are you watching? Oh.
- [52:52]
B
Oh, my God. The dream.
- [52:53]
A
So good. And Jew it. Like, we need you. Jewish king. He's a doctor. Dr. Robbie.
- [52:58]
B
Yeah.
- [52:58]
A
You have to get on that show, Dr. Rabinowich. That's a great, great goal. I actually could see you on it. Do you think you would be more of a patient, a student? How would you be like?
- [53:07]
B
I don't. You know, they're so brilliant with the casting show that I wonder if they would be like, yeah, but, like, having Josh Peck just show up in scrubs might be, like, slightly distracting.
- [53:15]
A
Have you ever played a doctor?
- [53:17]
B
I haven't, but it's my dream. I'm a hypochondriac.
- [53:19]
A
Right.
- [53:19]
B
Physician.
- [53:20]
A
Bored for this role, everyone. That show is kind of unknown. They don't, like, cast anybody whose face I've ever seen before.
- [53:26]
B
Yeah, there was, like, one. The. The. One of the actors has been around forever, and actually he won the Emmy for the show. And the.
- [53:34]
A
Who did he play?
- [53:34]
B
He played the. He comes in. He's in the beginning. He's like, on the roof in the beginning.
- [53:40]
A
Oh, yeah, yeah, of course.
- [53:41]
B
And then he's in the last couple.
- [53:42]
A
He's like the other Dr. Robbie from the other shift. Yeah.
- [53:44]
B
And he was like an army doctor. And so interesting.
- [53:47]
A
I didn't realize. He won the Emmy. And so did the lady. The blonde lady.
- [53:49]
B
And she's wonderful.
- [53:50]
A
Yes.
- [53:50]
B
And she's been around for a while. But all the younger doctors are like new, great theater actors.
- [53:56]
A
That's a great answer.
- [53:57]
B
And that's Nep.
- [53:58]
A
Is there.
- [53:59]
B
Brian Cranston's daughter is on it. Who?
- [54:02]
A
She.
- [54:03]
B
She's.
- [54:04]
A
Which one?
- [54:04]
B
I. She.
- [54:05]
A
The wench.
- [54:06]
B
I just. No, no, no. She's lovely. She's a wonderful actor. I'm sure she would love that.
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A
I'm leading with that Brian Cranston daughter.
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B
She's wonderful.
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A
Dr. King.
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B
Dr. King. She's wonderful.
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A
Dr. King. I just put that together like Martin luther. She plays Dr. King on the show. Taylor Dearden is her name. I wonder if she doesn't go by Cranston. Oh, her name is Taylor Dearden Cranston.
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B
She's a wonderful actor.
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A
A choice was made. She was excellent. Yes.
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B
There's some actually, other actors with.
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A
You know, we're always talking about nepotism on the show. As an actor who is not A byproduct of nepotism.
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B
Does it bother you that I don't have that? No.
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A
That other people, like, maybe get roles that you could have gotten.
- [54:42]
B
Nag. Go for it.
- [54:43]
A
Right.
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B
Take any edge you can. And I think, like, the cream always rises to the top. So you might get one role, but you're not going to get 10.
- [54:50]
A
Like, yes, if you're good, you're good. And you were going to be famous regardless. That's how I feel about Gwyneth Paltrow. Yeah.
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B
And, like, it's cool.
- [54:56]
A
Yeah. That's a really refreshing take. I didn't expect you to say that because, like, it's probably an lot awful.
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B
No, I give people all the credit. I'm like, I'm friendly with Paris Jackson and, like, every time she wins, I feel, like, so great for her. And there's never a moment where I'm like, well, your father.
- [55:11]
A
Like, no, like, interesting.
- [55:13]
B
I'm just like. And I'm interested to see the way in which they look at life because they've had such specific experiences.
- [55:19]
A
Right. And I also think, like, while being a byproduct of nepotism for a lot of people is great, I think a lot of people also comes with, like, a deep sense of trauma. Like, parish accent is a perfect example.
- [55:29]
B
And what do you think about, like, with the wonderful Ruby and my kids, like, my big sort of doctrine or edict with that is, like, my kids are going to have an incredible life, God willing. And like, so I'm always trying to think of, like, because I came from a pretty, like, you know, tough, different. And I'm like, where. How do I balance that? Because I certainly don't want them to feel bad for having a wonderful life.
- [55:49]
A
I know. I feel like there are ways to do it. I don't know. No, but you want your kid. Like, of course. All you want to do is, like, you would work every day now for your kid. Like, it's not for you. It's just, like, to provide, like, the most amazing life for your family, but you also want them to grow up with, like, respect for, like, how to earn a living. It's park for a dollar.
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B
I don't know.
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A
I don't have the answer.
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B
I. I always say, like, you should never feel bad about having a great life, but the only cover charge for a great life is giving it away. Like, is gratitude and, like, helping the people who maybe weren't as lucky.
- [56:16]
A
Right. Giving back. I love that.
- [56:17]
B
But I think I will say, as we're coming to a close, that Watching you in bed and as parents, it's so beautiful, you guys.
- [56:25]
A
That's so sweet.
- [56:25]
B
Thank you. Thank you. Just naturally elevated into these roles as I knew you would. And there are two very revealing sort of benchmarks in people's life. It's who they choose to be their partner throughout their life and then how they are with their kids. And I love when people impress me and they rise to the occasion and then some.
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A
Well, I think for Ben, because I always say, like, I have my sisters whom, like, I feel, like, feel like a lot of the hard parts of motherhood came easy because I watched my sisters do it and I had, like, these amazing role models to, like, call in the middle of the night being like, what product do I need? What do I do? How do I do this? And I think for Ben, you were that to him. And I think he, like, really looks up to you as a dad too. And he, like, loves your kids so much. So it's also important to, like, have people around you who you respect as parents too. And I think for Ben and I, but Ben specifically, like, you were definitely that for him.
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B
Thanks.
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A
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B
Sure.
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A
So, Josh, who's your queenie of the week this week?
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B
Queenie of the week is Ms. Katy Perry.
- [59:56]
A
Okay.
- [59:56]
B
That's right.
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A
Explain.
- [59:57]
B
She's made it. Okay. She's Ms. Canada.
- [59:59]
A
Yes. Yes. I love this.
- [60:01]
B
She's with J.T. dustin Trudeau. And you know what? Some people love her. Some people, maybe they're not as much of a fan. She made a dog.
- [60:08]
A
It's true.
- [60:08]
B
Okay.
- [60:09]
A
She's leveled up.
- [60:10]
B
She is a first lady, kind of. Even though he's not prime minister.
- [60:12]
A
Right. And he's kind of, like, disgraced. Like, he made it.
- [60:15]
B
It's like, trump him or hate him. Like, he. He crushed it.
- [60:18]
A
Things he did.
- [60:19]
B
He knew that he made it to the tippy top.
- [60:21]
A
Right? Right. And so has she.
- [60:22]
B
So she's kind of doing it.
- [60:24]
A
I love that. And you know what? I'm not a hater of this relationship. I was like a Katy Perry. Like, you know how she's going to space. Like, I was kind of on, like, the hit wagon, honestly. But you know what? Coming out of, she took, like, a little bit of time off, and then coming back with a prime minister boyfriend is a slay.
- [60:40]
B
It's it. It's it.
- [60:42]
A
My Queenie of the week are the women from the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. They've really taken up. I brought it up, like, four times today because it's the show that I' Obviously, it's a great show. It's just, like, fun and whatever, but. And Jackie and I talk all the time about how it's so refreshing to see these women killing it. Right? They're, like, making a ton of money. They are so famous. They went to Stagecoach and Lana Del Rey, like, wanted to meet them. Everybody watches his show, and they're all in some version of motherhood. Half of them are pregnant. Half of them are postpartum. Half of them are nursing. Half of them are getting ready to get pregnant again. Like, And I feel like that era of womanhood, like, often gets looked over. It's like, okay, well, like, we'll see you when you're done having babies, and then you can, like, bounce back or before. And so to give, like, the spotlight to women who are, like, kind of going through exactly what I'm going through. Through, but slaying it. I'm obsessed with them. The show is the best show on tv. They deserve Emmys, like, dead ass. It's the best show ever.
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B
Wow.
- [61:26]
A
Yes. They're my Queenies of the week Weenie.
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B
We need Parmesan.
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A
That's it, love.
- [61:31]
B
I'm coming for you. Parmesan. We're not cool if on the streets. It's on site.
- [61:37]
A
Wow.
- [61:38]
B
Okay. If I see a guy, a waiter at a restaurant doing one of these, you know what I'm saying? I'm going to Be like, that's what you do that too. I'm like, keep that away from me.
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A
My name we need of the week is unfortunately, my husband.
- [61:51]
B
Oh, Ben.
- [61:52]
A
Because I love him more than anything in this world, but he's, like, embarked on this journey that I personally can't get on board with.
- [61:56]
B
Okay.
- [61:57]
A
So a couple of days ago, Ben made a turkey. I saw that seemed early, let me tell you, 1,000%. But he wanted to make a video, and like, all this week, he wanted to, like, do turkey recipes. So we had to start making the turkey. And then ever since then, he was, like, been using the turkey for other things. He used the carcass. My house fell smells, and you know what? I feel pregnant again. I didn't realize. I hate turkey. Oh, my God, this smell is killing me. And it is. See, you know when you, like, have a fireplace and the smell of firewood, like, seeps into your couch, like, you can't get it. Everything smells like turkey. Yesterday, I literally, like, made a very smelly, Asian inspired dinner. I lit five candles, nothing. And then I know today he's making stock. Like, I'm so.
- [62:38]
B
It's over.
- [62:39]
A
It's over. I'm sorry, Ben. I love you and I respect your hustle, you know, like, you're crushing it as a food content creator. At what cost? I am suffering. My house absolutely smells, and it's like a new house. And, like, it's still fresh. You know, it's still. It's still got that new car smell.
- [62:53]
B
Yeah.
- [62:53]
A
Oh, my God, you guys, it fudge stinks. Ben, you are weenie of the week.
- [62:58]
B
You'll know when it's really seep through, when it. You can taste it in the ice.
- [63:03]
A
Oh, my God. That's an. You know, my coffee did taste like turkey this morning. Yeah. And every time I open the fridge, like, the carcass is there because he's, like, saving all the different pieces and he's put it in ziploc bags. So there's like a bag of drumsticks, like a bag of bones, and, like, a bag of white meat and a bag of dark meat. I can't open the fridge, and the fridge is my happy place. I can't open the fridge without, like, being accosted. And it's making me realize, like, I. I actually don't like turkey.
- [63:24]
B
No, It's a substandard bird.
- [63:26]
A
I love a roast chicken.
- [63:28]
B
Yeah.
- [63:28]
A
To me, there are a few things better than, like, a big roast chicken and normalize. Like, instead of having a turkey, I just. If you could make me a big roast chicken. I'd be throwing the move.
- [63:37]
B
Is for. Is to avoid the turkey for Thanksgiving, do all the fun sides and do steak. That's.
- [63:44]
A
Wow. I've never had steak at a Thanksgiving dinner.
- [63:46]
B
It's what should happen.
- [63:47]
A
I love that.
- [63:47]
B
Do steak.
- [63:48]
A
What is, in your opinion, the goat Thanksgiving side?
- [63:50]
B
Oh, man. I mean, I do love a green bean casserole.
- [63:54]
A
Wow. Okay.
- [63:54]
B
Old school.
- [63:56]
A
Such a non Jewish dish.
- [63:57]
B
Like the Campbell soup.
- [63:58]
A
Yep.
- [63:58]
B
And like, the crunchy onion. I'm really in it for the onion.
- [64:01]
A
Of course. Everyone's in it for the crunchy.
- [64:02]
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, but I'm trying to think of. Yeah, I love a Mac and cheese.
- [64:06]
A
I love Mac and chees. Really basic. I love a mashed potato.
- [64:09]
B
I'm not a. I'm a consistency guy. And I need a crunch.
- [64:13]
A
Oh, okay. No, I love, like, a really smooth, almost like soup.
- [64:16]
B
Like, like 50% butter. Right.
- [64:18]
A
Buttercream and then, like milk cream. Yeah. What do you cook?
- [64:22]
B
I can. I can cook a little bit, I think. You know, Bourdain's a real hero of mine, and he was like, it's unacceptable to be an adult and not have, like, five things that you can cook.
- [64:31]
A
Oh, God, he's literally talking to me.
- [64:33]
B
So you have. What do you got? One, One or two?
- [64:36]
A
It's like, I don't need to cook. Do you know what I mean?
- [64:37]
B
I live with a chef, but that's true. But you could add you.
- [64:40]
A
If I had to make myself dinner. Yeah. I can make, like, three things.
- [64:43]
B
And like, you get, like, when people are like, oh, cooking is such, like, an intimidating thing. I'm like, you know, though, you could just put, like, oil, garlic, and like, some chicken breasts in the pan.
- [64:53]
A
Right.
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B
It will be good.
- [64:54]
A
Garlic, onion, and, like, something.
- [64:55]
B
Yeah.
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A
Okay. And so where are you having Thanksgiving? Are you making anything for Thanksgiving?
- [64:59]
B
I will probably make something for this charity I work with, Feed the Street.
- [65:03]
A
Yes. You're so good. Every week, Feeding the Streets.
- [65:05]
B
I'm proud of it. So I will. I'm going to make a massive helping of macaroni and cheese. And half I'll bring to the o' Brien's for a wonderful Thanksgiving. And half I'll bring to Feed the Streets.
- [65:15]
A
That's lovely. Thanks, guys. If you happen to enjoy what you heard here today, I suppose you could listen to Josh's podcast, dropping episodes Mondays and Thursdays.
- [65:23]
B
The Good guys, little brother. And I will say in closing, Claudia, you were really the one who. You were like, you went to bed and I. And you said, my audience loves you separately. You guys should have a podcast together.
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A
Did I?
- [65:35]
B
Thanks to you.
- [65:36]
A
Oh my God. I'm my own worst enemy. Self sabotaging. Josh, thank you so much for being here. Thank you guys. Thank you for another great week of Jackie's maternity leave. Thank you so much for listening to the Just the Monday Night Morning show. We deliver the fastest stories you need to know every Monday Friday on YouTube. So if you're watching us on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe and give us a video thumbs up. We're also available as podcast anywhere, podcast, Spotify it, public radio, I guess Box all the way. Send a podcast, find us a toast review about a beautiful sounding and wickedly talented we are. Have an amazing weekend and we will see. See you on Monday. Love ya.
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B
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