Long Suffering Propriety: Friday, January 17th, 2025

Summary

Podcast Title: The Toast
Host/Author: Dear Media
Episode: Long Suffering Propriety: Friday, January 17th, 2025
Release Date: January 17, 2025

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Introduction to Resolutions and Culture

[00:01] Host A: "Good morning, millennials."
[00:03] Host B: "Welcome back to The Toast and Happy Friday. Like, my God. Thank you, Jesus, and all the lords of all people for bringing us to this moment."

The episode kicks off with Jackie and Claudia Oshry delving into the common phenomenon of New Year's resolutions. They discuss a statistic indicating that most resolutions are broken by the second Friday of January. Jackie expresses initial feelings of discouragement but is motivated not to become "just another statistic" after reading the statistic.

[00:17] Host A: "It's very exciting for a number of reasons. Second full week of the new year in the books..."

Claudia contrasts her approach by mentioning she rarely makes resolutions, only notable ones like quitting vaping or adopting a life philosophy. Jackie admits to feeling the typical mid-January lag but resolves to continue with her goals, such as increasing her daily water intake.

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Corrections on "Parenthood" References

[01:34] Host B: "It is so important that I, at the top of this show, issue, two enormous corrections from yesterday's episode. One of them is yours."

Jackie and Claudia address an error from a previous episode where Jackie mistakenly claimed that Leighton Meester was part of the TV show "Parenthood." They humorously clarify that it was Minka Kelly who actually appeared in the series.

[02:19] Host B: "And mine was also in the right place."

The correction emphasizes the hosts' commitment to accuracy, even when it involves personal mistakes.

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Streaming Services and Subscription Management

The conversation shifts to the complexity of managing multiple streaming service subscriptions. Claudia discusses her intermittent use of Apple TV and other platforms, highlighting the frustration of paying for content she rarely consumes.

[03:37] Host A: "Most of them, I don't really go through the subscriptions and change them. What I have is what I have."

Jackie and Claudia debate the practicality of jugging multiple subscriptions like Netflix, Hulu, Max, Peacock, and Paramount Plus. Claudia mentions her goal to organize and possibly cancel dormant subscriptions to achieve better financial wellness.

[05:50] Host B: "It's a mess."

They lament the fragmented landscape of streaming services, making it challenging to justify multiple subscriptions when content overlaps or isn't sufficiently unique.

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Book Club Announcement: "The Wedding People" by Alison

[09:45] Host A: "I have an announcement which is that I alluded to yesterday. Redheads drama. The book that I chose is inaccessible, unavailable. We don't like that not working. So I've chosen a new book and I just want to announce it here."

Jackie announces a change in their book club selection due to the unavailability of the initially chosen title. They decide to read "The Wedding People" by Alison, aiming for a widely accessible book that listeners can easily obtain from libraries.

[10:13] Host B: "I've been hearing all about that book. It's on my list."

Claudia expresses excitement over the trendy choice, while Jackie recounts her experience using AI to select the book, ultimately settling on a popular, contemporary romance novel.

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Analyzing Taylor Swift's Lyrics: "Long Suffering Propriety"

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to dissecting lyrics from Taylor Swift's song "Long Suffering Propriety." Claudia shares a humorous anecdote about a misinterpretation with her husband Ben, leading to a detailed analysis of the song's meaning.

[14:15] Host A: "If long suffering propriety is what they want from me, they don't know how you've haunted me so stunningly."

Jackie breaks down the lyrics, interpreting "propriety" as societal expectations forcing someone to conform and acknowledging the internal struggle of unrequited love. Claudia initially misconstrues "stunningly" as referring to beauty, but Jackie clarifies it pertains to the haunting nature of the subject.

[15:29] Host B: "Why do you choose him?"

They conclude that the song encapsulates the pain of longing for someone who doesn't reciprocate affection, emphasizing the emotional weight conveyed through Taylor Swift's songwriting.

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Fast 5 Stories

1. Justin Baldoni vs. Blake Lively Lawsuit

[32:24] Host B: "Our first story is a big story of the day and you know, of the last few months."

Justin Baldoni has filed a $400 million lawsuit against Blake Lively, Ryan Reynolds, and their publicist following allegations of sexual harassment and a retaliatory smear campaign. The lawsuit claims that Taylor Swift and Ryan Reynolds pressured Baldoni into accepting script rewrites for the film adaptation of Colleen Hoover's novel "It Ends with Us."

[34:41] Host B: "Like the sheer fact that this like Real Housewives level of Drama is in a lawsuit is so embarrassing to me, honestly."

Claudia critiques the lawsuit, highlighting how it appears to tarnish Blake Lively's reputation without adequately addressing the original claims against Baldoni. The hosts express skepticism about the validity and motives behind the lawsuit, questioning the intertwining of personal grievances with professional disputes.

2. Fire Aid Benefit Concert for LA Wildfire Relief

[43:42] Host B: "I love that they're getting people from country music involved because they all, like, did a benefit for North Carolina..."

A star-studded benefit concert is being organized to raise funds for LA Wildfire Relief. The lineup includes prominent artists like Lady Gaga, Billie Eilish, Green Day, Gwen Stefani, and Stevie Nicks, among others. Notably, Dave Matthews Band and John Mayer are set to perform together for the first time.

[44:21] Host A: "Gracie Abrams, Green Day, Gwen Stefani, Jelly Roll, Joni Mitchell, Katy Perry, Lady Gaga..."

Claudia shares her appreciation for Jelly Roll's music, praising his album "Post Malone's Country" and praising its diverse collaborations. Jackie and Claudia emphasize the unity and philanthropic spirit behind the concert, highlighting its significance in supporting the community during a devastating time.

3. Matt James' Breakup with Rachel Kirkenel

[52:47] Host A: "Our next story. Apparently Bachelor star Matt James has blindsided and humiliated his ex girlfriend Rachel Kirkenel."

Matt James posted an unconventional and abrupt breakup announcement on social media mere hours after sharing photos with Rachel Kirkenel in London. This unexpected move left Rachel feeling blindsided and humiliated, sparking widespread public confusion and criticism.

[55:02] Host B: "I think she was blindsided by the announcement, not necessarily the breakup up."

Jackie and Claudia analyze the situation, pondering whether Matt initiated the breakup or if Rachel did, followed by his retaliatory public announcement. They debate the appropriateness of handling personal relationships in the public eye, stressing the importance of mutual respect and communication during breakups, especially for public figures.

4. Cameron Diaz's Return to Acting

[61:07] Host A: "So, our fifth story. Cameron Diaz has a new movie coming out."

Cameron Diaz is making a comeback to Hollywood with a new action movie alongside Jamie Foxx, following a decade-long hiatus after her appearance in "Sex Tape." The hosts express mixed feelings, admiring her previous work like "Bad Teacher" and appreciating her ability to elevate projects she participates in.

[64:32] Host A: "She said, I don't know how I view it. It's hard to say. If I say it, then it becomes this thing."

Jackie notes Diaz's balanced approach to returning, emphasizing her desire to choose projects that align with her passion and family priorities. Claudia, while supportive, questions the necessity and potential quality of Diaz's new project, reflecting on Diaz's track record of adding value to her roles.

5. Brody Jenner's Sincere Apology from Caitlyn Jenner

[68:29] Host A: "And on a quiet night, I might watch this movie that sounds like a light fare I would like on a desperate night."

Brody Jenner recently shared that he received a genuine apology from Caitlyn Jenner regarding feeling abandoned during the Kardashian family's rise to fame. This marks the first time Brody has publicly acknowledged an apology, emphasizing its significance in their strained relationship.

[69:03] Host A: "Caitlyn is very understanding and very lax."

The hosts discuss the complexities of Caitlyn Jenner's personal life and her relationship with Brody, noting the challenges of maintaining familial bonds amidst public scrutiny and personal transformations. They reflect on the broader implications of public apologies and reconciliation in high-profile families.

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Queenie and Weenie of the Week

As the episode draws to a close, Jackie and Claudia introduce their regular segment, "Queenie and Weenie of the Week," where they award public figures based on their behavior over the past week.

[73:11] Host A: "It's a seven-day title. It's not that serious. Like, it's supposed to be fun."

Queenie of the Week:

• Spencer Pratt and Heidi Pratt: Recognized for their enduring charisma and resilience, especially amidst past controversies. Jackie praises Spencer's supportive role towards Heidi, highlighting their continued success and strong relationship despite previous public backlash.

Weenie of the Week:

• Matt James: Awarded for his abrupt and poorly handled breakup announcement with Rachel Kirkenel. Claudia criticizes his lack of communication and respect, labeling his actions as vindictive and selfish.

[77:43] Host B: "He is. He's just, like, doing what a man should do to, you know, make money, build a life."

The segment underscores the hosts' perspectives on public figures' actions, blending humor with candid critiques. They conclude by encouraging listeners to enjoy the upcoming long weekend and reflect on the week's events.

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Conclusion

Jackie and Claudia Oshry wrap up the episode with reflections on the discussed topics, reinforcing their commitment to delivering engaging and insightful content. They invite listeners to subscribe on YouTube and various podcast platforms, encouraging reviews and continuous engagement.

[78:12] Host B: "Yeah guys, thank you so much for a fabulous week. We're back on Tuesday..."

The episode successfully navigates through a blend of personal anecdotes, in-depth analyses of pop culture events, and lively discussions on current affairs, providing listeners with a comprehensive and entertaining overview of the week's happenings.

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Notable Quotes:

• [00:03] Host B: "Thank you, Jesus, and all the lords of all people for bringing us to this moment."
• [05:50] Host B: "It's a mess."
• [14:15] Host A: "If long suffering propriety is what they want from me, they don't know how you've haunted me so stunningly."
• [34:41] Host B: "Like the sheer fact that this like Real Housewives level of Drama is in a lawsuit is so embarrassing to me, honestly."
• [43:42] Host B: "I'm desperate to change the subject."
• [77:35] Host B: "He's obviously like not interested in queenie like content and just weenie like, like content."

These quotes encapsulate the hosts' humor, critical perspectives, and candid reflections throughout the episode.

Transcript

[A]

Good morning, millennials.

[B]

Welcome back to the toast and Happy Friday. Like, my God. Thank you, Jesus, and all the lords of all people for bringing us to this moment.

[A]

It's very exciting for a number of reasons. Second full week of the new year in the books, and I actually, I read a statistic that most New Year's resolutions are broken on the second Friday of January. Like, I don't you feel that way that, like, that resolution energy has just gone out the window, like, you've made it till today?

[B]

I don't relate to that because my relationship with resolutions is, like, I don't do them. And on the one or two years I have actually done them, it was such an important resolution, like the vaping or when I decided to change my whole life philosophy, saying yes to life. Like, those are the two resolutions I've ever even tried. I've never been a person on January 1st who, like, goes to the gym. Like, so I don't participate in resolution.

[A]

Culture, to be honest, I'm very much participate in resolution culture. And I was feeling, like, the lag this week, and I was feeling really unmotivated. And if I hadn't read that statistic, I could see myself, like, giving up.

[B]

Because, by the way, what's worse than being another statistic, right?

[A]

It's the weekend, so I'm not, like, up on my goals on the weekend. I could see myself, like, giving up by Monday. But now that I read the statistic, I do not want to be just a statistic. So I'm going to carry on. I have my water jug.

[B]

Water.

[A]

We are drinking less and less before the show every day, which is good because I can't keep running to pee, so I just have to up my water intake. And the.

[B]

It is so important that I, at the top of this show, issue, two enormous corrections from yesterday's episode. One of them is yours.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Leighton Meester was not in Parenthood.

[A]

Okay. In my defense, Minka Kelly is in Parenthood. And in my defense, have the two of them ever been seen in the same.

[B]

Same trail, a different park?

[A]

Like, literally, they're the same person. They look alike. They have similar career trajectories. Of course, I. I correct. I stand corrected. But my heart was in the right place.

[B]

And mine was also in the right place. And I. I see how I made this error. But when I was, like, giving my actual diatribe, that's so me. By the way, whenever I have to issue a correction, it's never, like, an offhand remark. It's something I spoke about. For 15 minutes.

[A]

That yeah, you are very passionate story.

[B]

About the Severance TV show that we did yesterday about like their big marketing campaign. I was talking about my experience with the show. Spoiler alert. I've actually never seen Severance. What I thought was Severance was actually a show called Industry.

[A]

And I could see how you could.

[B]

Be the look up the posters. They're the same fucking show. They both take place like in the workplace. And I apologize. I've actually never seen Severance. Now I kind of want to. It sounds like something I might be interested in. I had watched Industry on hbo. Max, I apologize. That whole thing statement I made everybody just undo control. Z. I heard Severance is a great show.

[A]

Yeah. So maybe we'll give Severance show called.

[B]

Show called Severance streaming on Apple. I have a very complicated relationship with Apple TV subscription. Like, I refuse. I let a lot of my subscriptions stay dormant. Like, I'm never going to cancel Netflix. Hulu Max. Like, even if I'm not watching them so frequently, like, that's baked into my monthly expenses. But there are certain ones. Like if I'm not using it, like with Ted Lasso, I would sign up for Apple tv. The second I was done with Ted Lasso, we're canceling Apple tv. Same goes for Peacock. I'm not like attached to Peacock. I'll sign up to watch something and then I will cancel. Same with Paramount. Plus some of them haven't really, like, adapted to my monthly expenses.

[A]

Most of them, I don't really go through the subscriptions and change them. What I have is what I have. But I feel you about Apple tv. They. They don't have enough content to justify paying a separate price when I already have. You're telling me my Apple TV doesn't come with Apple tv?

[B]

Yeah, that part's really disgusting.

[A]

So crazy. So it's kind of a town principle that I agree because that makes no sense. I bought your device when I could bought a fire stick or a Roku or something. And you're gonna make me pay to watch like one show that you have. You have one show.

[B]

To be clear, like, a lot of the networks that have streaming platforms like also have products like Fire Stick. Fire stick doesn't come with Prime. But if you ordered it on prime, like, you probably have Prime.

[A]

You know, the thing about prime though, is we don't know what we're paying for. Like, I have Prime. I assume. How much is it?

[B]

I signed up.

[A]

I get to watch prime tv. Molly Mae. I know I have that. I don't see a bill for.

[B]

I signed up for Amazon prime when I was in high school.

[A]

I don't think I ever signed.

[B]

No, you, Jackie, you had to have.

[A]

Prided no prime sign because it used.

[B]

To be like, when we were all just using Amazon to, like, order stuff in high school, it used to be that, like, you could get it or you could get it in two days with Amazon Prime. And if you were ordering enough, like, it really justified. It wasn't a crazy price. And I've never.

[A]

That's the price.

[B]

I don't want to know because it's such to me, like, there are 30,000 things I would cancel before I would ever cancel my Amazon Prime. Like, I rely on it to. To live.

[A]

I agree. And also, like, when I. I'm a Prime member, apparently. Does that cover my video? My prime video?

[B]

Actually, no. They. I know that prime video has recently, like, done its thing because I like, have prime video, I guess. But now the prime video that I have has ads. So, like, they've obviously upped. There's like a tier and I actually don't use prime video that much, so I'm not going to pay for it. But when I was watching.

[A]

Stop with the tears. Stop making me make hard choices.

[B]

Yeah. And there are certain streaming services that have, like, tiers. Like, even the highest tier still has ads. Like, girl, they're wild. That's crazy.

[A]

They're wild and out.

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

Yeah, it's a mess.

[B]

It's a mess. And I actually one of my. Not a resolution, but at the beginning of the year because I pay my taxes at the end of the year. So in December of last year, I paid my taxes. And of course then I always want to start out after that, like, being a little bit more fiscally responsible. So one of my goals was to get all my subscriptions in order. Like, I just know sometimes I see a charge for like a dollar for like a VPN I used once and that was like a year ago. So that's $12. Like.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I really want to get my subscriptions in order. That's a goal of mine. Not a resolution, but a goal.

[A]

That's a. There's really good apps.

[B]

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[A]

Should we do that ad right now? Honestly, that feels.

[B]

Honestly, yeah. It's so organic. So organic.

[A]

It's so organic. And now I need to go get it.

[B]

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[B]

I've been hearing all about that book. It's on my list.

[A]

We're reading it for the Reddit. Join us.

[B]

I'm very excited to choose something so trendy.

[A]

It's everywhere, so I've seen it a couple different places. I was really leaning on AI to help me pick a book because I was like giving them like what we like or it's. And this was one of the choices I almost picked, but it felt really trendy. Kind of like a rom com. I'm like, I'm not in that mood. They gave me this thriller that I wound up picking. That's only available in the uk. So if Molly Mae wants to join the redheads, like she could have. So then I went back to the drawing board and this book kept coming up and it was a read with Jenna Pick and she always picks really good books. A lot of our picks have converged in the past and I'm always really happy with those books. So I think it's a safe choice. And at this point, I want something that's massively available that people could get on at their library.

[B]

I hate to tell you how to do your job, but I do like when the redheads choose something like on trend now. Trendy books are always bad. Let's be real, like anytime you hear about it all over goodreads, like, it's a piece of shit and it's just never good. Having said that, like, for this is a business, the redheads. And it's good for you guys to be on trend.

[A]

The thing is, we go through, I go through waves of that feeling where it's like, let's read the book that everyone's talking about. But then it sometimes doesn't live up to the hype. We don't have like the best conversations. A lot of people have already read it and discussed it and it's like we're just circling the drain. So then we're like, let's read a book that everybody's reading for the first time. But I also don't want to pick something from 10 years ago because maybe people did read it 10 years ago and then they don't want to listen to the episode now. You know, it's really a dance. And then the craziest part is that we haven't read the book, so we don't know if it is a good book. If I was doing recommendations about books I already read easy.

[B]

Yeah, that's so true. Well, I wish you the best. I really do.

[A]

It was inevitable that something like this would happen. We will be reading the Wedding people. And I'm very excited too.

[B]

I meant to tell you, like, something I've been keeping up with is like the Today show guest co hosts and some people have come and gone and I feel like there was like no waves made, let me tell you, all over social media. Kiki Palmer was yesterday and she just like crushed it. There was like so many funny moments, sweet moments, earnest moments. And she has a new movie coming out that like, seriously, I've only seen promoted on Tick Tock. I don't know why this movie is getting no, like, I Don't know where the marketing budget. It's starring her and Sza and Mod Apatow's in it. Like, it's like this trio, like, girls night type of. It looks so funny. I'm like, I don't know where I can see this movie. For some reason, the rollout is not giving me faith that it's going to be like, mass distributed. And of course, I don't know what it's called, but. So she's doing a lot of press and people fudgeing loved her. Like, I think if she wants the job, there has been such positive feedback from Kiki and Jenna that I actually think the job is hers to turn down.

[A]

I think she would be fantastic. I wonder if she wants that job because it does mean you kind of.

[B]

Have to give up other things, up.

[A]

Some of your other hats. And she's someone who always has, like, multiple projects because she is a multifaceted entertainer. So just to be sat there five days a week, very routine. I don't know if it's your job.

[B]

That's why the job tends to go to women who are a little bit older in the industry, because they've done that. You know, they've spent their 20s and 30s, like, doing the most and trying every opportunity. And then it's nice to have some stability and just go to work every morning at the same place. It's not for everyone. I agree. Like, you can't have, like, a thriving acting comedy. She's like, really also an influencer, a podcast, you can do all of that while also being, like, a daytime daily host. But I'm happy to see her getting, like, the feedback and the respect that she deserves.

[A]

I'm just not surprised.

[B]

Yeah. Things that don't surprise me.

[A]

You know what?

[B]

But has kind of confounded me. Me and Ben had like this 30 minute conversation last night that we actually ended up in a fight because, like, I thought he was giving such bad answers. I have been singing Guilty as Sin, like, by Taylor Swift. It's like, been stuck in my head and I keep getting stuck on this lyric that, like, I actually. It could be in Chinese. Like, I do not understand it. Okay, you can probably help me. I mean, I said to bed. I'm like, what do you think this means? It had been, like, bothering me all day. And he gave, like, such a wrong answer. I'm like, okay, never mind. Why am I talking?

[A]

Do you think he would give a right answer?

[B]

Very profound. And I'm like, okay, you know what? Never mind. Like, I asked the wrong person. I should have asked Jackie. So tell me what you think this lyric means.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

If long suffering propriety is what they want from me, they don't know how you've haunted me so stunningly. What the does that mean? I. First of all, I had to Google what propriety means.

[A]

I don't know what.

[B]

So it means, like.

[A]

But I'm gonna use context.

[B]

Okay. What it means is, like, forcing someone to conform. Like, acting proper propriety.

[A]

Okay. If long suffering propriety is what they want from me, say that they don't.

[B]

Know how you've haunted me so stunningly.

[A]

Well, before you gave the definition of propriety, I was going off of, like, suffering. And it's like they want me to suffer for a long time. And they know negative.

[B]

Like, saying, like, well, yeah, okay.

[A]

They've wanted me to suffer propriety for a long time, and they don't know that you've haunted me so stunningly. Haunting is a negative thing. Like, they don't know that I've been suffering propriety.

[B]

But then the next lyrics. I choose you and me religiously. He's making you suffer. Why do you choose him?

[A]

I mean, that's a classic question. Like, literally ask any girl in a relationship or that's pining after a person that doesn't want her. And yeah, the choosing you and me religiously is what's making her suffer. Because it's long suffering propriety, and he's haunting her because he don't want her. Who's it about?

[B]

Medically?

[A]

Yeah, this makes sense.

[B]

Does it? Because Ben was getting stuck on the word stunningly. Like, saying that it was about, like, beauty. I'm like, no. Oh, yeah. No, I'm like, no, you're wrong. Like, you are wrong.

[A]

Yeah. No, it's just an adjective.

[B]

Right? I'm like. But the stunning. I said, Ben, the stunning doesn't refer to a person. Refers to the haunting. Like, it's a possessive adjective. Yeah. And he was, you know, and then we just started fighting.

[A]

Like, oh, well, you shouldn't have even asked him. Not because, like, he couldn't be helpful in something. But, like, with Taylor, you kind of have to know the lure a little bit and the lore of the sometimes.

[B]

And I feel like this happened a lot in ttpd. Like, she lyricist lyricized, like, a little too close to the said. I feel like the older she gets, the less of her lyrics. Like, I actually understand she's, like, a little too smart. I find myself having to Google words.

[A]

Yeah. I. I also would need, like, the context clues of the rest of the.

[B]

The song.

[A]

Song.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But it does sound like. Like people want her to suffer. And little do you know, I've been suffering by pining over this person who has haunted me, who I would choose every day religiously, who wouldn't choose me. And that is suffering.

[B]

What I asked you. Like, I feel like I kind of.

[A]

Get it, but I also might really be analyzing them too much on the surface. I have a tendency to do that. Of course, I'm not very deep. What's the word? No, no, I am deep. But I just. Sometimes I just. On the surface, in my analyzation. I don't know how else to describe it. You just something. So maybe there's more that I'm missing.

[B]

Lies have passed. Oh, update on our theme song competition. It is still in full swing and as of this morning, you know, the Supreme Court has decided to uphold the TikTok ban. So Sunday is still the deadline for the theme song competition. Jackie and I are looking all across the nation for a new theme song. Well, not a new. Our first theme song for this podcast right here, you could submit on Instagram reels or on Tik Tok using the hashtag Toast theme song. Try and stand out, you know, play an instrument, do what you want. And we're looking for like a 30 to 60 second jingle. Not too long, not too short.

[A]

Of course, the one and only social media competition we've ever run that's taking place on TikTok ends on the day that TikTok will be banned. So if we want to sit down and watch all the tiktoks on Sunday and make a decision, like, we actually.

[B]

We'Re going to have to save and like screenshot the profiles of people. I didn't even think about that, like, how we're going to.

[A]

I do think, like, the people who have really put their whole selves into our real contenders are on both. But just keep that in mind. That is so crazy. We've never done anything like this. And of course it's. We chose the day.

[B]

We're going to have to do Saturday night.

[A]

Like, Saturday night.

[B]

Yeah, Saturday night school. But the competition is not over. If you have not submitted yet, we really encourage you to. This has been so much fun. Oh, also, the winner wins $5,000. That's like a huge part. And a contract with Toast Studios. So that's just huge. That's kind of worth more than the $5,000. And we're really excited. So. Hashtag Toast theme song. I've been loving watching everybody's competition. Some Mish. And, yeah, this has kind of been, like, one of the best weeks of my life because of it.

[A]

Yeah, it's been really fun. And I'm mostly excited to have a theme song.

[B]

Me too.

[A]

Because some of the ones that I've listened to have given me chills, which is also, like, if you don't give me ch. Like, whether it could have been the best song, but it didn't give me chills. So it's not a win. And just to have that experience every day, I think will be really. Yeah.

[B]

And I'm, like, struggling because the one that I think is best. There has been another one that I was singing in my head all day yesterday, which is kind of like the benchmark of a good theme song. So I'm feeling really toward. But I'm also still open if somebody. I just want. I can't stress enough that the competition is still open.

[A]

Like, I think also that we'll pick our favorites, two or three, and then maybe we'll, like, ask friends and family to vote. Vote. And that won't be, like, the decision, but that might help us see what the people gravitate. It's a very intricate decision and voting process.

[B]

So complex. A lot of people don't understand how hard we work personally on this. It's kind of like American Idol. Like, everybody has. Because there are certain videos on TikTok that have gone viral. One of them is like a quarter of a million views. But, like. And that's great. That doesn't equal winner. It's.

[A]

Oh, no. It just means that we will see it for sure. Even though we will see all.

[B]

It's good to know, though. Like, that's good too.

[A]

That's true. That is very true. So there's a couple of buckets that go into the final vote, which is like, Claudia and I, our friends and family, like, social media reception. It's just. It's. It's a very layered and complex equation. Yeah. Resulting in the best result, wouldn't you say?

[B]

I would hope that the equation would result in the best result, but, you know, time will tell.

[A]

Okay, and what do you think about this? If we're between two options, if we had, like, an intro song and an.

[B]

Outro song, like, that's when the podcast gets, like, crazy.

[A]

Like, more songs. Like, just more songs.

[B]

I mean, I think, like, if none of them work out, we could always do. What if he's written Mimel on my upper thymol? That's always an option. Of course.

[A]

That's guilty as sin. I just Learned.

[B]

Of course we could also.

[A]

That's again.

[B]

And I'll never stop singing my pargy song. Like, we. We have options.

[A]

Of course, if we, like, took the time, we could have done this ourselves.

[B]

Yeah, but who wants to do that when you could host a competition?

[A]

We are busy women. I'm such the Simon though, wouldn't you say?

[B]

Oh, actually, no. I think you're so Paula. Like, you're. You think everything is so good. Like, I'll send it to you and you'll be like, oh, my God, I love it. I'm like, really? Like, you are definitely this happening. You might be Randy. Who was. Who was more lenient, Randy or Paula? Like, Paula had empathy that neither of the other two had, but Randy had a low bar for talent. Like, yeah.

[A]

I don't even know how. How did those three become so iconic when I can't, like, even distinguish the personalities of Randy and Paula? I think Randy was just, like, more laid back.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

In his critique. And I think Paula, like, had a lot of energy. Like, was definitely the one like the Katy Perry who was just, like, making best friends with everyone and, like, was.

[B]

There to serve looks and like, be glamor as Paula Abdul.

[A]

Yeah. So crazy.

[B]

So crazy. That was such an interesting. Because now it's like they look for the biggest and baddest star to put in one of those chairs. But, like, those were three unknown. Now, of course Paula Abdul is an unknown, but for the audience that was watching, I had no idea who Paul Abdul was.

[A]

No, me neither.

[B]

For young people. And, like, we knew this was like an older successful pop star and she was, like, known for her dancing, but I had zero. I never heard a Paul Abdul song in my life. So the fact that they became so known is actually so crazy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then they tried with X Factor, they tried to make, like, l. A Reid, the Randy Jackson. He did a good job. But X Factor wasn't appreciated in its own time. X Factor us.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, that's.

[B]

Where were you when you first heard Carly Rosson and Claire?

[A]

Oh, I was.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Is where I was actually. Well, I guess we should get into the stories to bid you farewell to the.

[B]

We have Queenie and we need this week. Do you have yours?

[A]

Mm, I do. I wrote them down.

[B]

I actually had a hard time. I think it was because this week felt so long that I think on Monday I wrote down somebody like that I just wanted to put into contention for my Queenie. And now it just feels so irrelevant.

[A]

It just feels like last week.

[B]

No, I know.

[A]

Cause it's been so long.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

Yeah. Also the good news is that next week is a short week.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Let's thank you so much for reminding. We're embarking on a three day weekend. You guys know we respect the hell out of federal holidays. And I would never disrespect my king, Martin Luther. And that's on Monday. So MLK Day. Literal, literal King MLK Day. There is no toast. That's Monday. So just prepare yourselves. I think that's a federal holiday that's widely respected. Like, some like, like certain holidays have become, like, everybody goes to work on Columbus Day and people are like, oh, really? You have off for Arbor Day? Yeah, I do. So not all of them are as respected, but I feel like everybody's off on Monday.

[A]

And I do feel like after two long, hard, full weeks, like, we need a day off as a society, not just us. Like, like it was a lot coming back into the year and with like.

[B]

The tick tock ban, like, we all need time to sort of like, reset.

[A]

Yes. And as you said, like, Monday is just a big day for the world. Also, like, with the hostage deal, like, it's just a big day. So we'll be off.

[B]

I just wanted to say one thing, like, not to like, bring it up after, like, you said hostage deal, so it sounds so vain, but like, a lot of.

[A]

I was just. When we were adding to our list, like, our Monday list, I realized, like the first, if the deal goes as planned, like, the hostages are said to be released on Monday.

[B]

Okay. So I'm actually not going to say what I was going to. Like, now I feel really even more.

[A]

Well, okay, let me say, like, just something else and then you could say it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Don't forget, New Redhead's book is the Wedding People. It's going to be an amazing episode with fun with friends and family.

[B]

So I feel like I actually haven't given my official thoughts on the Tik Tok band. Like, I've been updating everybody on it and like, how does Turdy feel? And I obviously love TikTok. I'm kind of the Tik Tok correspondent for my generation.

[A]

I feel like your thought your feelings are complicated and you've been parsing my feelings are complicated.

[B]

Let me tell you why. Like, am I resentful that, like, I never reached a million followers and I'm definitely underappreciated as hell on that app. Yes. So do they deserve to go down for that? Absolutely.

[A]

100.

[B]

But I've gotten to such a good place in my tick. Like, I pop up on Tick Tock at least once a day. Like, I'm. I've. Like I'm in such a good place. Like, my engagement's crushing it. Like, I'm getting so many brand deals. Like, I'm gonna miss that. I'm gonna miss the attention. But I actually know that I will be better off because of, like, I have a very complicated relationship with the app. Like, I love it so much I rot for hours. And I know that it's bad for me and it's like I have to enter this phase of my life where I need to be present. And so I know they're not doing this for me, but in it, in its own way, it feels like it's being done for me. Like, I'm actually looking forward to the person I become without this kind of addiction in my life.

[A]

Yeah, like the vape. I think that's like, I loved it.

[B]

But I hate it.

[A]

I agree. I do think it's coming back though. So, like, this will be short lived. And on the plus side, like, all the money that the brands were spending on you on Tik Tok, that like, you would be missing that. Like, those brands will spend that money elsewhere, whether it's on Instagram, on the podcast. Although can you explain some live events, trips to the cake?

[B]

Me and Ben were like talking about like China yesterday, obviously. What else? What else do two people talk about? And he was asking, like, why? Okay, so like China's stealing our data and spying on us for sure. Like, why is that bad? And I was like, oh, well, I love to cite the 60 minute segment I once watched. It, like, actually really colored a lot of my opinions on TikTok and like, how they really do use it as like a weapon. They use TikTok, this amazing algorithm in China to like further the education of minors and teach kids to, you know, valuable lessons in math and stem. And then they use that same sort of algorithm to target Americans. I keep them fat to fat, lazy and mentally ill. Like, yeah. And they use it like they convince people like on Tik Tok that you have mental illnesses that you don't have. Like, it's actually the 60 minute segment. If you just Google it. It was actually really powerful. Like, because at first I was like, who gives a fudge? So I was telling Ben that he's like, no, no, that I know, but like, the actual data, like, okay, so they have our data now what, like, what, what's bad?

[A]

Well, so I think for a regular person who's not remarkable, it's like, not a huge deal to have your data, but then there are people, like, they get into your phone, they get into your WI FI network. There are people whose parents work in government. There it's ways to get amongst other threats, but it's ways to get proprietary information that maybe just the 13 year old dancing in their room doesn't know, but, like their dad has or mom has government secrets or mom.

[B]

Okay, then also, then explain this to me because everybody, like, and you just said, like, you think it's coming back for sure even though the Supreme Court has upheld like the legality of banning it. They say, like, no, no, the law. There's nothing stopping the law from stopping this ban. Like, it's legit. They just said that this morning. So obviously today's last, like working day of Biden's presidency. So now it's up to Trump. And like, Trump's thing is he hates China. Like, so why, why would he, why.

[A]

Would we think it's coming back? I think because whatever, like, makes it so nefarious. And there are a couple different things. I think those will get solved, whether it's a sale, whether it's parameters in play, I think.

[B]

Yeah, but the thing I said earlier in the week is true about like.

[A]

That it can't be inextricable.

[B]

Unlinke from the Bite company, which is based in China, like their data centers. Even if you buy the company, like, for. In order for the company to still exist separately, like, it has to be linked.

[A]

I feel like maybe it doesn't. I love that there's a workout, maybe there's a solid, and if anything, it'll take. I think the issues will get, will get solved a bit is what not. It's just gonna like, oh, we'll keep doing this because this has been a problem for a very long time.

[B]

And then Ben also had an interesting point. He was like, you know what? And Ben doesn't like, come at this with any sort of agenda. He's just like a curious person, which I like. And he's like, but you know what? Like, if anybody started an app eight years ago and was able to sell it Today, it's worth $400 billion. That's like the market value. The fact that they don't want to sell it like that gives nefarious vibes. Because the whole point of starting like a tech company is to like, you know, sell it and make money. And you've successfully built the biggest one in the shortest amount of time. And now we're like, the government is Begging you to sell it. Begging. And you won't. Why? Because money maybe wasn't your goal. Spying on 13 year olds whose dads work in government or moms.

[A]

Well, and that's just like one case of how they could spy. But just like they had, of course. Like, they like to see what America. Then they have like full.

[B]

I get it, I get it.

[A]

Like, we are into American life.

[B]

We are so interesting. Like, if I was living in China and I worked for intelligence, I would want to know what was going on here too. Like, we are the most fabulous people. We are so complex and we are of course not perfect. But like, if I get spy on any country, like, of course I would want to be this one. We are sick. We're gorgeous. God bless America. Like, I get it. I get the intrigue, their obsession. Like, I get it.

[A]

Yeah, it's really think about all the.

[B]

People who live here, first of all us. Like, who's more interesting than us?

[A]

I know they totally want in our face. Like, they're so t. If I was.

[B]

A Chinese spy, I would say I want them first. Yeah.

[A]

I'd say these girls are really high threat and we need to be listening to everything.

[B]

Our head threat. We're extremely influential.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Well, they can hear your end of the call.

[B]

So true. How do you feel actually? And I feel like you haven't been annoying about this at all. As somebody who has resisted TikTok for these reasons, there have been like from day one, like weird concerns about China. At first it was like a conspiracy theory and now it's like at the Supreme Court and you have sort of stuck to your guns and we all made fun of you and it has made your life difficult and honestly difficult, you know, for the people around you to download and sending. And you not only like, do you feel vindicated, you haven't been like annoying about it at all?

[A]

No, I don't feel like I was right or anything because it's not like this was a working theory that I had. Like, I was reading the same stuff as you guys. I just like took it more seriously. And then there were also, like, aside from like the spying, like, it definitely the mental health. I just realized like how much time I would be spending on my phone if I had tick tock. And not that I don't spend a lot of time on my phone, but it's not a number I want to add to. And I'm just really hopeful. Like, I hope that people come to reels because then reels will get even better and the brand. More brands on Instagram, whenever they're like, do you have tick tock? I'm like, yeah, like, okay, Cha Ching down the toilet.

[B]

So true. But by the way, I think what you said is super. Like, we could all, like, talk about China. Like, what the do we know? I actually think, like, the mental health implications for an app that is so targeted towards young people, like, that's the benefit of it getting banned. Like, obviously the national security, which is like, a little high level for me. I'm not gonna pretend to understand it, but, like, I won't be. If I had, like a teenager right now, I would be thrilled.

[A]

Right?

[B]

That's so.

[A]

I think it will be a net good thing. And all social media is, like, ripe with issues, but at least it feels like with most of the big platforms here, like, they at least pretend to care.

[B]

They're also, like, embedded so much in culture that, like, I don't think of Instagram as addictive. I think of it as, like, work. And I can, like, I can put it down.

[A]

No, but if there was like, an issue with Instagram and teens, like, Mark Zuckerberg would at least pretend to do something about it and not, like, certainly not try and make it worse and celebrate it, but he might put in something and there might be laws in place. Like, I know there's laws in Florida about, like, like, you can't have social media before a certain age. So, like, at least there are things you can do. And I just feel like TikTok has just gotten, like, so out of control.

[B]

But that's also too big to. To monitor even.

[A]

Yeah, but. And not that I'm so for, like, monitoring or anything. That's why these, like, issues are complicated. But I think the issue is that it is being monitored in a nefarious way. It's not just like, it like, they are tailoring, you know, people with the worst sorts of content to people and promoting that as opposed to it actually just being like, free speech. Do whatever you want and the cream will rise. It's not the cream that's rising. Yeah, that's the issue.

[B]

How do you feel about, like, proceeding with the remaining ads? Like, are we gonna dive into the fast five stories ads so we have one more ad? Yeah. And like, I. I feel like. So a filter. Sure.

[A]

Let's do the first ad break after story number two today. Since everything's been bumped up.

[B]

I'm not gonna do it after story number two because now you've just sort of spoiled it for people. But you guys just stay Tuned.

[A]

You never know when they'll hit you. Well, now it is time for the Fast 5 stories that you do need to know if you are ready.

[B]

I am. Like, it just feels so weird to be ready.

[A]

Our first story is a big story of the day and you know, of of the last few months. But a new update has emerged from Justin Baldoni's lawsuit because Justin Baldoni is claiming that Ryan Reynolds and Taylor Swift pressured him to accept Blake Lively's it ends with us rewrite in a new complaint. So Justin Baldoni has filed a 400 million dollar lawsuit against Blake and her husband and their publicist. On Thursday, January 16, less than a month after Blake filed a complaint alleging sexual harassment and a retaliatory smear campaign. Among and so this is a 179 page complaint. There's a lot of screenshots, discovery and things and you can go read all of that. However, among the claims made in this complaint, he alleges that Taylor Swift and Ryan Reynolds pressured him into accepting one of Blake Lively's rewrites for the film. Christy hall is credited as a screenwriter who adapted Colleen Hoover's blockbuster novel. So in the pre production phase, Lively allegedly asked to take a pass on the film's rooftop scene where her character Lily meets his character Ryle for the first time. Justin was, quote, reluctant to let her rewrite this key scene, per the complaint, but agreed to take a look at what she put together. Justin claims her version was, quote, dramatically different from how it was originally written. And after his, quote, exceedingly mild resistance, Lively quote, went silent for multiple days and later said an alleged text message that his reaction to her rewrite, quote, didn't feel great for me or to Reynolds and what Baldoni characterizes as, quote, another mega celebrity friend. A text message included in the filing reveals that, quote, influential and wealthy celebrity friend is Taylor Swift. Justin claimed that he was, quote, summoned to an earlier meeting with Ryan at their New York City penthouse where the pop star Taylor arrived and began praising Lively script. Baldoni understood the subtext he needed to comply with Blake's direction for the script, per the complaint, he felt he didn't need Ryan and her mega celebrity friend to pressure him. So he texted her that while her changes made the scene, quote, so much more fun and interesting, he would have felt that way without Ryan and Taylor adding a playful emoji. Blake allegedly responded by comparing herself to the Game of Thrones character cringe and that Ryan and Taylor are her two dragons.

[B]

Like the sheer fact that this like Real Housewives level of Drama is in a lawsuit is so embarrassing to me, honestly. And people are just gooped and gagged by this. The screenshots going around make Blake look out to be like, such a loser and such a mean girl. And I don't think that's really ever been up for debate. Like, the crazy thing to me is, like, he filed this 200 page lawsuit. $400 million, and not one of it disputes the original claims that he sexually harassed people on this set. They had to take a break and come up with deal terms. And what? So Blake Lively is a bitch. What does one have to do with the other? Like, his entire lawsuit? Yes, this makes her look really bad, which has been like, the theme the whole time. She's a mean girl. Her texts are so fucking cringe. Like, my dragons, my Khaleesi, like, cringe. Okay, but you know what else is cringe? Sexually harassing your female co stars. Like, I don't see how one has.

[A]

To do with the other because it won't change how I feel about this situation. But you just get a glimpse into someone's personality and it's. It's a little painful. She said, if you ever get around to watching Game of Thrones, you'll appreciate that I'm Khaleesi, and like her, I happen to have a few dragons, for better or worse, but usually for better because my dragons also protect those I fight for. So really, we all benefit from those gorgeous monsters.

[B]

No, I actually cringe. Like my. There's a chill down my spine.

[A]

Smiling emoji. You will too. I can promise you.

[B]

And like, great. Let's say Justin Baldoni is telling the truth. Everything in his 179 page lawsuit is completely factual. Okay? Blake Lively and her fancy husband and her fancy friend Taylor Swift, like, wanted to take over the project. Not a crime, definitely. Like a bad personality traitor. But nowhere in there does he dispute any of the things that were alleged about him. You know, making her add more nudity scenes, being weird about the intimacy coordinator showing nude images to female costars. Like, I really. I don't understand how this has went to do. This is, I think, another strategy in what was originally. Oh, and by the way, there is no disputing that he hired people to do astroturfing. Like, so all the things that were in original Blake's original complaint, like, to me, have not been disputed at all. If anything, like, he's giving us evidence as to why he was mad at her and did that in the first place. She told on him to sag about his inappropriate behavior. And then she. Wait. Oh, my God. It's crazy how your brain, like, just turns off. Like, he's mad at her because. And. And did all that because, oh, yeah, she told on her to sag, and she was like, a pain in the ass on set.

[A]

So I think here and I. It's getting confusing, and I think that's the intended effect. But he is trying to also prove why he hired crisis pr because all of the things that happened that he's not disputing, there were. There was beef, and there were disagreements and creative disagreements and a million other things. And so he's showing why he went on the defensive, which then it looked like an offense. Right.

[B]

But the crazy thing is, is to the public, no one was ever Team Blake. Like, she never put together any sort of strategy when the movie was coming out. It was all making her look bad. So he. He's like, I was on the defensive from what? We never thought anything other than you were the good guy and she was the bad guy.

[A]

Right? No, but now he's having to prove that there was an offensive that either hadn't launched yet or was in the midst of it before. Like, he came forward with his.

[B]

He sounds like a conspiracy theorist. Like, he sounds a little crazy because all I've gotten from everything. His original complaint and now this lawsuit is that Blake was mean, and her fancy friends Hugh Jackman and Channel Strip made me feminist feel bad. And by the way, I can completely see a world in which, like, Blake Lively, who's the most beautiful woman in the world, married to, like, one of the most handsome best friends of Taylor Swift. Like, she's definitely a. And she definitely. Like, she's not even an amazing actress. So I could see her, like, coming on, being like, I want to do xyz. It's like, girl, just do your job. You're not even gonna. Like, I. I can see all that. None of that literally means anything to me. Like, when there is proof and pretty much confirmation of, like, that list of 30 things that he was acting inappropriately on set, harassing people sexually. Like, why is that equal to being mean? It's not. These, like, these are two separate claims.

[A]

Yeah. I don't think he's saying it's equal to being mean. I think.

[B]

No, but he's trying to sway public opinion. Well, it's like, I was accused of sexual harassment, but these people were mean to me. Okay.

[A]

No, but he's, like, saying Blake showed, like, what happened before the astroturfing campaign, and now he's showing what happened before that led to the thing. That led to the thing. I never wanted to know this much about two people, about one movie. Like, just stop making movies, everyone. Like, if it's this hard to just agree on a rooftop scene, like, seriously, the book was written for you. Just write what's in the book. It's really not.

[B]

That's the other thing. Like, Taylor Swift definitely read this book, like, on her own because she, like, we know she likes to read, and, like, this is a very popular big book, especially for women. And I could see her, like, really getting, like, so excited that her friend was playing Lily and, like, wanting to get involved. And I think it's a really, you know, unique strategy because Justin, I think, is motivated a lot by public opinion. Like, of course he wants to win, but I think he cares a lot about what people think of him. And including Taylor Swift in your lawsuit, it's kind of a risky move. She's universally beloved, and I think people have, like, made, like, sort of an exception for Blake. They're like, yeah, she's Taylor's best friend. Like, she sucks because everybody's now, like, off of team Blake. But now it's like, well, Taylor's a part of it, so where do you land? I think it's going to be really interesting to see if that hurts him or helps him.

[A]

Yeah. Also, I feel like we already forgot that her song was a part of the movie, and that was, like, a really big hype for my tears for the trailer. So she's not uninvolved in the movie.

[B]

Oh, I forgot about that.

[A]

Yeah. So he probably had to, like, cozy up to Taylor because she's doing this favor, giving the song.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And she's, like, a part of the excitement around the movie. And then also, Justin like, posted pictures yesterday of him in the basement at the premiere with his family. Like, let me tell you how I do not care that you were at the basement in the pre. Like, you in the what? Regardless of what happened, like, you and the lead actress don't get along. You don't like each other. She will walk the carpet, and then you will walk the carpet. And sure, you can wait in the basement. You can wait in your car. I don't give a. I don't feel sorry for you that at your big, fancy movie premiere that you were in a basement that, like, looks totally fine and lovely.

[B]

I have such a. Like, a hot take on the basement because. And I know everybody's like, just, claudia, you're not going to be ever team Justin. And I'm not. But, like, this is somebody who in my opinion now has been really accused with a lot of proof of sexually harassing female co stars. None of the female co stars wanted to be around him. They did not feel comfortable. So much so that at a work event, the premiere, you had to be sequestered like a prisoner in the basement. Like, that's what they do with people who are dangerous or like, you are a threat. Like, you're not being kept, they're being kept from you. Like, everybody was fine to walk together and be together. Upstairs, you were the outlier because you are a threat and you sexually harass these people. Like, I felt like when he released those pictures, I was like, you're literally admitting that, like, you had to be kept separate. Like, Like a. A violent criminal.

[A]

Yeah, this didn't do for me. Like, I don't feel sorry. But people are like a movie theater with all this popcorn. All your friends and family.

[B]

It's big night. He works so hard. Like, people are seriously not okay. Just about. Tony's not gonna fuck you if you write a nice tweet about him. Like, people are like, it's so upsetting. Like, this was his big night. He worked so hard.

[A]

Like, girl, it's literally not so upsetting. It's not upsetting at all. It ain't like, I'm sorry, move the needle.

[B]

I. At this point, I feel like people have chosen their sides. Right. Like, at first, people were really easily swayed. Like a. One lawsuit I'm here, one lawsuit I'm there. And now, like, the dust has settled and people have decided what team they're on. I can safely say I've never really switched from disliking Justin Baldoni and like, nothing. I don't think no amount of pages in a lawsuit is going to change people's minds now.

[A]

Yeah, like, enough has been done that point. So now also I. I feel bad for the courts and the jury that will have to sift through all this and relitigate all of this.

[B]

What state? California. It was California. Sorry. Yes, it was. Because they filmed in California. And it's like as if the people of California haven't been through enough. Now they have to sit on a jury going through this mindless Real Housewives drama. Like the receipts. Like, literally, it's like Monique and her binder. Like, it's so mind numbing.

[A]

Yeah. So they'll duke it out and I guess we'll wait to see who the courts find.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because, you know, this is just us. And also Everyone is selectively reading these documents.

[B]

It's so true.

[A]

Like, I want to see how Blake Lively sends a text and now I don't want to see.

[B]

No. By the way, I've seen enough. Please never give this woman my number. Like, she's unsteadful. She sounds absolutely dreadful. Me and my dragons. Like, yikes, I'm Khaleesi. It's butt clenching. Like, it's so cringe.

[A]

Agreed. Are you ready for our next story?

[B]

I'm desperate to change the subject.

[A]

I agree. Lady Gaga, Jelly Roll and Stevie Nicks will be playing Fire Aid benefit concert for LA Wildfire Relief. So a big concert is coming together for LA Wildfire Relief, and the biggest names in music are coming together to raise funds for those affected by the devastating wildfires. Right now, the lineup includes Billie Eilish and Phineas, Earth, Wind and Fire. Gracie Abrams. The name is a little. Oh, is a little too.

[B]

It should have went ewf.

[A]

They should have changed their name.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Gracie Abrams, Green Day, Gwen Stefani, Jelly Roll, Joni Mitchell, Katy Perry, Lady Gaga, Lil Baby Pink, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Rod Stewart, Sting, Stephen Stills, Stevie nicks and Tate McCray. For the first time ever, Dave Matthews Band and John Mayer will take the stage together for a special performance.

[B]

That's so nice to see. Like, all these people.

[A]

Speaking of all the streamers we were talking about, this will be streamed live on all of the streamers.

[B]

Oh, it will.

[A]

They're coming together. Apple Music, Apple TV, Max, iHeartRadio, Paramount Plus, Netflix, Prime Video, Amazon Music, all of them.

[B]

Yeah. It's nice to see people from, like, country music getting involved because they all, like, did a benefit for North Carolina and there was, like, no pop people who were offering their time. Like, it was like Keith Urban, John Mayer. I mean, not John Mayer, Luke Holmes, Eric Church. So, like, Jelly Roll showing up, representing the community we love to see. This just reminded me of. Oh, I wanted to talk about Jelly Roll because I wanted to talk about. Actually, I have to thank your husband for this. When me, you, and our husbands went on a double date to Yard House, the greatest restaurant in all of America, he was driving and he put on music and he put on the F1 trillion album post Malone's country. And I had listened to. I. I hadn't listened to the album in full. I knew Luke Combs. I, like, selectively chose the ones that were popular, like the Morgan Wallen collab and the Blake Shelton collab. Then I, of course, had to listen to my boy Luke. But I hadn't listened to the album in full. And I was just like. It was like a 20 minute drive there and back. So we listened to like most of the album. I was like, damn, this is so good. And I've been listening to it every single morning. It is so underrated, like by me obviously, but the culture let me rate it under like it wasn't shoved in my face. It should have been. Every collab is better than the next. The Luke Holmes one is so good. The Lainey Wilson one is so good. The earnest one that ain't the devil I Know. It's so good. And honestly, the Jelly Roll one. And I have not like been moved by Jelly Roll's music. I think a lot of people like are immediately drawn to it. He definitely like has like a cult like fandom and it just sort of like passed over me. Let's hear it for the losers. It's so. It's made a Jelly Roll fan out of me. Like this album. I can't believe I like lived like I lived with it for months and did nothing about it. Like, it's so good.

[A]

It's so funny because I have different favorites than you from the album. Like wrong ones with Tim McGraw.

[B]

Sing it for me.

[A]

But them wrong so good goes so hard. The Dolly Parton one I really like.

[B]

Sweet, sweet.

[A]

And then also on the album, Post has a song, just Postie himself. He, you know, put himself out there because I do feel like sometimes, you know, he hides behind these collabs a little bit. What don't belong to me. What don't belong to me what don't belong to me Love. Also, if you like that Jelly Roll song. There's one other Jelly Roll song in Jelly Roll catalog that I know.

[B]

We listen to it every time we're in your car.

[A]

Well, just because I play my leg songs and that was the first one when you were here.

[B]

Yes, yes.

[A]

You ain't nothing but a liar.

[B]

There was also one song I did not like.

[A]

Fire.

[B]

I can't remember it. Why focus on the negative? I just wanted to say I apologize to Malone and the entire Maloners. That was wrong of me to sit on it. It's. It's actually amazing. It's one of the best country albums this year. Like he should be nominated for Grammy of the year album. Country album of the year.

[A]

I'm down.

[B]

Like, it's really parge.

[A]

Really.

[B]

I'm sorry it took me so long to get here. Inappropriate.

[A]

Well, you're here. We're happy to have you.

[B]

That's all that matters.

[A]

And you're really not that late like.

[B]

Considering so true I've been later Downton Abbey.

[A]

Anyways this this concert a thon like sounds really nice and some great performers and really beautiful way to come together for the community. I think you mean the Q munite.

[B]

Curect.

[A]

So that's all to say on.

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Thank you. Code t u r T. Let's hear.

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It for the losers.

[A]

Our next story. Apparently Bachelor star Matt James has blindsided and humiliated his ex girlfriend Rachel Kirkenel. Breakup post I have so as we announced yesterday, Matt James posted the world's weirdest breakup announcement out of nowhere when the day before, 12 hours prior they were posting Pizza in London. Pizza in London. Which could have been pizza in London last week. But still you don't post something when.

[B]

You'Ve within the same 24 hour cycle as your breakup post.

[A]

And also you don't post your breakup Post less than 24 hours after you've broken up.

[B]

And also you don't post your breakup post with a geotag location and you don't tag your ex in it. And you don't use a photo that's like literally not representative of your relationship at all. Oh, and then have like a really weird confusing caption about God. Not that there's anything confusing about God, but like it was definitely like a unique route to take. Strategically.

[A]

It was a unique route. But typically like there's time in between when you actually break up.

[B]

I love what you're doing with the pen.

[A]

So if you're broke.

[B]

Oh, you look like seriously a teacher. I love it.

[A]

No, and I'm like on the board.

[B]

Of the There's a lot to follow here.

[A]

You break up and then you hope that things are quiet and nobody realizes. So that you could process a little bit. You wouldn't post new content with your ex because you guys are heartbroken and you're misleading people. And then you would post your breakup announcement, but there's too much crossover in the windows here, so it's hard to parse out what happened. However, team Kirk and all. A couple things are coming out.

[B]

Connell.

[A]

I feel like I used to say Kirkano, but then I remember, like, every time I would hear her last name pronounced, it was not how I Now.

[B]

I think I say Rachel Kirk and lyrics.

[A]

I think that's how people say it. So I'm just trying something.

[B]

I like that she doesn't correct anyone.

[A]

Yeah, she says, I'm trying something.

[B]

You know, do your worst.

[A]

I'm probably pronouncing it, like, the way I normally wouldn't, and it's still wrong.

[B]

Yeah, that's so us. Even when I dry.

[A]

So sources are saying that she was blindsided and humiliated by this breakup post. She thinks it's just as weird as everyone else does. She didn't know he was going to do that and definitely wouldn't have approved of it if she did. And that's like, what her friends had leaked to the Sun. I don't know how much I believe that. But she also liked a.

[B]

That's why. That's why the sun came up with these fake sources, right?

[A]

Because they were like, they could see Rachel self because she liked to comment that basically said, like, guys, she was so blindsided.

[B]

And I think at first people took it as like, she was blindsided by the breakup. But if you really think about the context of their relationship, it would make more sense that actually she broke up with him because the way it was going for him, he didn't have to propose. Everything's good. I got my girl. We're making content. Like. But, you know, a woman is more sensitive to the timelines. And I think maybe she, like, finally realized, like, the lack of potential and the lack of a future to really ever get married. And she had made the really tough decision to break up with him, and then he, in retaliation, like, decided to block. Because even if you have, like, a contentious breakup as a public, as public figures, like, you sort of align on how to announce just to, like, minimize any sort of drive to minimize this. This. But he goes rogue and shares his unique.

[A]

I I actually that wasn't. I don't think she broke up with him.

[B]

Oh, you think he broke up with her?

[A]

I think he broke up with her and then also posted about it prematurely without telling her. So she's, like, heartbroken. And now everybody knows. Kind of like Brianna chicken fry.

[B]

There's a lot of Zach Brian Chicken.

[A]

Fry was blindsided by the announcement, not necessarily the breakup. They were having issues for a while. They broke up a month before. Blindsided by the fact that she wouldn't even have a few days to just process it before everybody knew the news. So I can see being blindsided maybe not by a breakup like you're in the relationship, like, you know what's happening, but by the fact that someone would put it out there long before they needed to. No one was like, hey, we haven't seen for Matt and Rachel in a while.

[B]

Yeah. I am choosing to think that she broke up with him. I don't know why he would have broken up with her. Like, he was. They were in a really happy. I think, you know, I mean, the sheet. And a man who's, like, not being pressured after four years. Like, and then I think, like, because also, like, the subtext of a lot of their videos, whenever being asked or even they went on a podcast talking about it, it was, like, always jokey, like, oh, Rachel wants me to, like, excuse me. So I could see her sort of reaching her limit there and breaking up with him. And in retaliation, him posting this thing, like a sort of a vindictive thing to do because the Zach Brian of it all, to break up with someone and then also, like, take control of the public. Like, like, that's so mean. And we now know he was, like, an emotionally abusive person. I don't think Matt James is like that. I think he was, like, a selfish boyfriend, but I don't think he's, like, an evil person. So to do both, to break up with someone and then also take control of the public, that's a really mean thing to do. But I could see him being hurt and angry and wanting to retaliate and be like, well, I'm gonna post it on Instagram first.

[A]

Yeah. I also think sometimes relationships run their course and people can end things amicably and then also be broken up, but still communicating about how they want. Want to share it with the world. I think that's what happened with Paige and Craig. I think he knew she was going to do a podcast about it.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And share. And they were on. And he knew that it would be however many days or weeks after they broke up and that you get on the same page because, like, that is a thing that you have to factor into a public relationship. So when someone doesn't do that even if you're not boyfriend and girlfriend anymore. Like, that was still your best friend at one point. Treat them with a little respect.

[B]

I completely agree. So I took her liking that comment as her being blindsided simply by the announcement, not by the breakup up.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And let me tell you, homegirl is active on social media. She liked one of my Tick Tocks this morning. Oh, and not to make everything about me, but me and Ben. Me and Ben thought it was so weird too. And like, Ben is friends with Matt. So like, we were like, Matt unfollowed both me and Ben. We didn't know. We don't know when, but I was like, maybe, like, he's obviously going through something because.

[A]

Because he's obviously being great.

[B]

I followed Ben and I. I don't know if it was like this week, but I haven't checked ever.

[A]

Definitely not this.

[B]

So it could have been like a year ago and I wouldn't know. But like, like, excuse me, now you're mad. But maybe because I know Rachel, I think is like an OG toaster. Maybe like Ben and I remind him of Rachel, not me. Like literally making this breakup about me.

[A]

I think he unvalued you a while ago. And it's unrelated to this breakup.

[B]

Yeah, I think so too. But I wanted to center myself and just let everyone know, like, he unfollowed me. Who follows people these days?

[A]

He's in a bad place, clearly struggling. No, you only unfollow someone when they offend you.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

When you really just, like, casually. You don't casually unfollow someone. That's why even when I'm like, this person no longer serves me, I follow them, like, at a different time and we just grew in different directions. Like, I have such a hard time unfollowing because it's such a.

[B]

You it is. And it's really.

[A]

I don't you. I don't you. I just don't with you.

[B]

Yeah. So I would love to know what I did to Matt James, but that's.

[A]

Actually something hurt him.

[B]

That's something funny with the new Tick Tock. Like, ban is in the last couple of days, Like, I have unfollowed people. Like, I'm not gonna spend my last days engaging with people I don't with. Like, now it's like, who cares? But in general, I agree with your unfollowing philosophy. But on Tick Tock, it's right now, it's like the Wild West. Everybody's just gotta live.

[A]

Like you're dying.

[B]

Exactly. And I've actually started to block people who, like, I don't know at all, but whose faces bother me, you know?

[A]

Oh, I love that. Yeah, we should be doing that. That's something. That's like, a lesson we should apply.

[B]

It's so extreme, like, to block someone, but, like, it's not. I. I'm not blocking because I hate you. I just like, your face and your content are terrible and, like, I don't want to see it anymore.

[A]

No. And because TikTok shoves people down your throat who you, like, have said, I don't like this person. But they're like, no, they're bad for you. Watch more. Yeah, you have to go out of your way to block them.

[B]

They're bad for you. Watch more. That is the TikTok.

[A]

That's what you have to block on TikTok on Reels. They're like, oh, you didn't watch enough of that. Let's give you something else.

[B]

Yes. Yes. They're really catering to, like, your. Your likes, not your dislikes.

[A]

Yeah, they're catering to your likes.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Do you want to amend what you said about Zach Matt James being hacked?

[B]

Oh, yeah. I was wrong.

[A]

Oh, okay, cool.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

No longer feeling that way.

[B]

I still feel like it was the weirdest thing on the planet, but after the hours went by where no correction was made, I was like, oh, no, this is real. So then I had to start, like, analyzing the situation with no longer with that disbelief, you know?

[A]

Yeah. I also, for a few hours yesterday, thought that maybe it was a prank. Some people were like, maybe he lost fantasy football. And, like, this was the dare that you have to, like, post this breakup announcement. And, like, that's why nobody was saying anything about it because, like, Rachel kind of has to just, like, let him do it for 24 hours or something. But now I no longer think that, because she's liking these comments.

[B]

And that just proves how strange the announcement was. Because when couples announced that they get.

[A]

Nobody thought Jessica Alba was pranking us divorce on a dare.

[B]

Like, the theories that came out of this are like, no, they're actually announcing an engagement. This is a clue. Like the theories on TikTok. Because if it was a normal announcement, people would have just started processing it. But the fact that there was such disbelief, myself included, and it caused people to, like, like, actually conspiracy theorize, just proves how weird it was.

[A]

No, it was an enigma wrapped in a riddle and prayer, but it ended up being true.

[B]

That's the weirdest. That, to me, that's what I'm Shocked at, like, it was real.

[A]

I'm excited to hear from Rachel.

[B]

Oh, big time.

[A]

Take your time here. And I'm.

[B]

The toast welcomes you with open arms, open invitation, and maybe you could tell me why Matt unfollowed us.

[A]

Oh. Our next story, a little Hollywood news. Cameron Diaz has a new movie coming out.

[B]

So glad you brought up Cameron Diaz, because I walked past a billboard.

[A]

It was getting too long till we last brought her.

[B]

Not only that, like, she doesn't fart without the toast, like, making it headline news. We are obsessed with her. And every time she comes out of retirement to do a movie, it's for a purpose. And it's like, she did it work and then she made the Other Woman. And, like, we understood why she took.

[A]

You know, that's a story that needs to be told.

[B]

The. The trailer for this movie looks so unbelievably stupid. I have to imagine she's getting paid $20 million, like, because she has a perfect record when it comes to films. Like, what the hell is this dumb action movie on Netflix? With who? Jamie Foxx, Right? Well, they.

[A]

She loves working with Jamie.

[B]

She does, she does. She does. She does.

[A]

They've been in two movies prior together.

[B]

She.

[A]

So this is what she said about her return to Hollywood. And if you know she's going to do it, is this it for her?

[B]

Right, Right.

[A]

She said, I don't know how I view it. It's hard to say. If I say it, then it becomes this thing. I reserve the right to say no to doing a movie ever again. And I reserve the right to say yes if I decide to. I'm not defining anything. I'm just open to whatever makes sense for me and my family at any given moment.

[B]

Such a healthy outlook. Such she's in such a privileged position. Like, she doesn't have to work. She has that, you know, Shrek money, 100 mil in the bank. She gets to work on her passion projects or Abilene wine. But. And I love when she does decide to step out and do work again. I just really don't understand this one.

[A]

Yeah, well, I think it's that Netflix money. But also, she said about Jamie Fox, I thought that if I was ever going to come back and do a movie, the only person I'd come back and do it with would be this guy. Seriously, I had other opportunities along the way, and I was always saying, no, I'm not doing it. I've told you. Well, what Jamie asked Jamie. Oh, I can do a movie with Jamie. And also her last movie that she did was Annie with Jamie Foxx.

[B]

No, Annie was after the other woman. No way.

[A]

Yes. Annie was 2014. I'll never forget where I was.

[B]

Nobody was more impacted by the Jamie Foxx Annie reboot Quebec and Wallace than Jackie Ashrae.

[A]

It's so fucking good. Like, that is how you take a classic tale and modernize it. It's true. People really slept on it because they're like, oh, my gosh. What are they?

[B]

Another Annie.

[A]

But you had to. And also, not just another Annie. You. Not just another Annie, but a modern Annie. Because typically, like, we're telling the story of Orphan Annie, Great Depression, fdr.

[B]

True.

[A]

But this was no, like, mystery stacks.

[B]

Right?

[A]

Not Mr. Warbuck.

[B]

Right. It was like, she's in a modern Manhattan. Right?

[A]

Annie's in a helicopter, not a horse and carriage.

[B]

Like, that's so true.

[A]

They did something with it. Like Ms. Hannigan. Like, she's an influencer.

[B]

Right, right, right. She has a YouTube channel, so it.

[A]

Was really, really good, considering.

[B]

Okay, that's actually really interesting spin on it. I only saw it once, and I remember being like, oh, it's good. And now I just, like, talk about it because, like, we always talk about it, but I actually don't know. And maybe I'm due for a rewatch.

[A]

Told you that it's good. Like, you can believe that it.

[B]

Agreed, Agreed.

[A]

And Sia did the music, right. So there's original new songs that are amazing. Soleil.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And they don't get their shine. She did, like, a take on you're never fully dressed without a smile, like, popping anthem.

[B]

And so the fact that Cameron Diaz loves Jamie Foxx so much, like, makes this whole thing better. But let me just say, like, the movie looks really stupid, and I. I feel, like, annoyed that, like, Cameron Diaz is, like, this perfect track record and really, like, a flawless resume. Tell me one bad movie she's made.

[A]

Well, I'm gonna go to her Rolodex. The thing about Cameron Diaz is it's not every single movie. It was, like, a perfect script. Like, the Other Woman.

[B]

No, she makes it.

[A]

She brings to the movie.

[B]

It's true.

[A]

So, like, I don't even know if I would have loved Bad Teacher as much with a different bad teacher.

[B]

Right, right, right. That's a good. That's a hot take. So I do think, like, something about Mary, the sweetest thing, like, everything.

[A]

But, like, what happens in Vegas could have just been, like, another obnoxious, stupid movie. But she makes it special. So I actually think this movie would be, like, a Cute action movie because she is enjoyable to watch and just has effervescence and verve up on the screen.

[B]

The movie is what Cameron makes it.

[A]

It's really, really. Let's make it.

[B]

There's rock.

[A]

There's no real flops because she doesn't flop.

[B]

Okay, that's a really good point.

[A]

I like that Bad Teacher too. Excuse me?

[B]

I heard they're turning it into, like, a series or something without her excuse.

[A]

Oh, I'm sorry. She made a bad movie once.

[B]

What?

[A]

Sex Tape with Jason Siegel.

[B]

Okay, while I agree she made a bad movie, the culture actually loves that movie.

[A]

The movie was bad. And I. They're two of my favorite.

[B]

I know.

[A]

And they were in Bad Teacher together. And why didn't they make it a sequel to Bad Teacher where they grow up and then they have a sex tape leak into the cloud? They made a bad movie.

[B]

By the way, have you seen Jason Siegel on the Today show? Like, his last appearance, which was like, he knew the last time he was gonna see Hoda. He, like, said something like, literally so nice. Everybody was saying nice things to Hoda, but, like, his was so genuine. He got, like, a little teary eyed and just was, like, talking about how, like, she's just such a wonderful person. I feel like it was a real insight into, like, the mensch that he is. Please, if you have a story about Jason Ziegle, like, I don't want to hear it. Like, I'm choosing to believe that he's a mensch. It, like, actually almost brought a tear to my eye. It was just like a random moment, but I feel like it was really indicative of the type of person he is. It was very genuine and very sweet.

[A]

Are you gonna tell us?

[B]

What do you mean?

[A]

I just said.

[B]

I don't know. It was like something, whatever. Like, the way he said it was like. So everybody said, you have been amazing. This building's not the same without you. And it's all really nice, but he has this sort of courteousness, courtesy. Excuse me. About him. That is. It was just so. It was so raw, so real. Everybody was just, like, saying these rehearsed things like, that they felt like they had to say to Hoda, you know, yeah, his was real.

[A]

That's really beautiful. I have to go listen. But I also just saw a headline. Cameron Diaz finally comes out of retirement 10 years after sex Tape center packing.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

I wonder if. If that's what it was.

[B]

Definitely not like, it wasn't that bad.

[A]

No, Claudia, it's really, really.

[B]

But, like, it did well, like, yeah, it wasn't, like, an embarrassing public flop.

[A]

That's true. Okay, well, anyway, she's back for now. Might come back again, might not. Tbd. Cameron does what Cameron wants.

[B]

I love that.

[A]

That, and on a quiet night, I might watch this movie that sounds like a light fare I would like on a desperate night.

[B]

For sure.

[A]

You know what? I'm just gonna add that to the content list, because otherwise I will completely forget about it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, for sure.

[B]

Get your book.

[A]

Totally.

[B]

Get your book, girl.

[A]

In one ear, out the other.

[B]

Get that pen. You know, they say about the pen mightier than the sword. Whoever wrote that.

[A]

The truth.

[B]

Like, never heard of Hamas, you know?

[A]

Right.

[B]

Good luck using your pen.

[A]

I know. Yikes.

[B]

Was that the fifth story or the fourth?

[A]

It was the fourth.

[B]

Well, we're moving slow today.

[A]

We are our fifth story. Like, should be a quickie, though, because Brody Jenner says that he got a sincere apology from Caitlyn over feeling abandoned during Kardashian's fame.

[B]

Yeah. This is, like, a really dark part when you think of, like, Caitlyn. There's so much from the Caitlyn lore, but we really think of it through the context, through the lens of the Kardashians. Like, her prior, like, life with all those kids, like, was actually extremely dark.

[A]

Yeah. There's just a lot. She's lived a lot of lives.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so not every single chapter was probably her proudest. But Brody is actually on the show. Special Forces World's toughest test.

[B]

Love that.

[A]

And on Wednesday's episode, he revealed that he received a real sincere apology from his parent. Just recently. He said, it was the first time in my life that I've ever gotten an apology. You know, I'm sorry for not being there. He told viewers that Caitlyn expressed remorse honestly, and that meant a lot to him. He went on to explain why he felt abandoned by Caitlyn, whom he referred to with he. Him pronouns as Caitlyn has publicly given her blessing for her kids to do so in the past.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Yeah. Because I think also, yeah, Caitlyn is very lax when they talk about the past. I think sometimes they'll even, you know, refer. Refer to as the old name, which I'm not going to do because one time.

[B]

One time we said in a Page Six article that had Elliot Page's original name, and we got accused of being, like, transphobic. We literally referenced an article, and we put the link to the article in our. In our description, which we do for every article that we reference, and we Were accused of dead naming and being transphobic.

[A]

Like, excuse me, not even that, Claudia. The story was that Elliot Page had transitioned to Elliot Page. So if I never said the person's previous name, you would have no idea who I'm talking about?

[B]

No, it was so, like, seriously, that was one of the craziest backlashes we ever got. Like, we all checking. You didn't even say it. We just. They didn't like that we referenced it in the bio, in the description.

[A]

Yeah. I said, blank page has become headline.

[B]

It was page six.

[A]

Oh, yeah, of course. Like, it was their headline. But if we say we never even said who became Elliot Page, like, you would say, who is Elliot Page?

[B]

All that to say Caitlin is very understanding and very lax.

[A]

Yes. So Brody said, quote, I'd randomly see him. Him at the time, you know, here and there. But my mom Linda would tell me that I would write on cards, why doesn't my dad call me on my birthday? He said I had an incredible mother. Caitlyn wasn't around that much. They split. And then he met a woman, Kris Jenner. She had kids as well. The woman that he met. They had kids together. Referencing Kendall and Kylie. Oh, yeah. And Brody recalled Caitlyn going through her own struggles, transitioning, which was documented on Keeping up at the time. He said it was all that that was put on tv. And there were these moments that we would have that was all films. And it was felt very invasive and not very genuine.

[B]

I do want to say that totally irrelevant, but this reminds me of, like, that time period where actually when the Kardashians e. Show was, like, really popping off, and Brody and his brother Brandon, like, they. Before Caitlyn transitioned, they would go on, like, vacations together. Like, remember that episode where they.

[A]

Brody got a half job.

[B]

Yeah, I like that. You know what I was talking about? That was a kind of a golden age of television. Like, we didn't appreciate it at the time, but now, like, the. The Hollywood significance of the Jenners, both Brody and Kendall, and then the Kardashians, and then it's so. It runs so deep. That was so crazy. That was such good tv.

[A]

Yeah. No, now it's just a fact of life.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But it is so crazy.

[B]

Like, I like that. I loved that. And you wouldn't have. I wouldn't know at the time, like, how dark the. The past was between Caitlyn and the original the OG Kids. Like, let's. Let's talk about Casey Jenner, the first. The. Before Linda, before Caitlyn married and had Brody and Brandon Jenner. He. Excuse me. She had a wife before that. Because it's all in Caitlyn's. That Diane Sawyer thing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I was like, wait, who's Casey Jenner? There is an older daughter. I don't know where she is, but hopefully they've also made amends.

[A]

Also, Brody is a parent now. I don't know if we follow along with him, but he has a daughter and he's doing special forces. That is nice. I'm happy for the family.

[B]

Those are the past five stories and before we wrap up for the week, before the long weekend, Jackie and I are gonna do Queenie and Weenie of the week. One of our favorite things to do here every Friday. A great way to wrap up the week is to sort of look back and reflect and give out two awards. Queenie of the week and weenie of the week. They're pretty self explanatory. Who is somebody who acted like a queenie this week? And who is somebody that acted like a weenie this week? This is a reminder. It's a seven day title. It's not that serious. Like, like it's supposed to be fun.

[A]

Yes. So I'll go first. My Queenie of the week goes to Spencer and Heidi Pratt.

[B]

My Queenie was Spencer specifically.

[A]

Well, Heidi for hitting number one on the Billboard dance charts. The two of them, like they continue to like emerge every few years and people are reminded of like how just funny and great in there and that's because they really have it. I remember when Spencer came on our show when we were the breath and I seriously had tears in my eyes from laughing so hard at everything he was saying. Like my, I never laugh that hard anytime ever. And they're always like working hard and the cream rises and I just feel like every few years everyone has this renaissance with them and we shouldn't forget how like funny and fantastic and they.

[B]

Also went through it. So I feel like every time they reemerge, they get even more vindicated from like their Hills villain. Because most people who like love Spencer now, like weren't even socially conscious with the hills, but like they were like the most hated couple in America. They were making a lot of money and they were really famous. But like that was hard. So I feel like they constantly get re vindicated. Especially like Back to the Beach. I feel like everybody was just re watching the Hills, the Hills and the City and all those shows and like you were re watching it now as adults. It's like they literally did nothing wrong. And by the way the proof is in the pudding, they are still married, right?

[A]

And, like, the. A lot of the issues was that Heidi was choosing Spencer, like, over her friends and stuff, but it's like that she. They're still married. Like, they're that in love. They're each other's person. So the proof is in the pudding. Before that, when Spencer, like, Snapchat got really popular, like, he's like these waves of, like, people remembering. And so they're obviously going through a very hard time right now, but they are just, like, so entertaining and in love, and I'm just happy for the success that they're having amidst tragedy.

[B]

Yeah, I decided to make him my Queenie of the week for all those reasons that you stated, but also because, like, the way he's chosen to build back his life while never taking, like, never. He's really. I know it's, like, funny because, like, he's the one posting all this content, but it's all about Heidi. Like, he is propping up the woman in his life, and he's just, like, doing what a man should do to, you know, make money, build a life. And, like, I'm sure on top of that, the emotional, like, damage of losing, like, I can't even imagine. So they're doing all of that while dealing with that hard stuff. And I just love the approach he's taken while, like, centering his wife. Like, my wife is a star. My wife is hot. My wife is everything he hasn't been saying. Like, me and Heidi, it's just Heidi's song. Heidi's this. Heidi's music video. Like, I just love it.

[A]

Yeah, agreed.

[B]

What are you writing down your Queenie?

[A]

Because remember, I'm starting to write all of that.

[B]

Let the record books reflect.

[A]

Let the record reflect. Put it in the toast museum.

[B]

Oh, my weenie. Oh, also, I wanted to give an honorable mention for Queenie of the Week to Tart. Like, they really gave me so much enjoyment this week. I was, like, watching. I spent so much time making content, reading content, watching content about the tarte trip. It was funny and I enjoyed every minute of it. So, honorable mention. But speaking of Tick Tock, my Winnie of the Week is actually, like, all the people who are just, like, sort of mindlessly signing up for Red Nose one. Because that's really not the way, like, social media apps take off. It's. You can't force it. So everybody's like, red notes the new Tick Tock. It's not. And the next Tick Tock, if there is one, like, it Will happen very organically. So you can't plan for these things.

[A]

And like the reminds me of threads. And also, what was that other one? Lemon.

[B]

Lemonade.

[A]

Lemonada.

[B]

Lemonade. The last time Tick Tock got banned. Well, not banned, but it was like, like 30 days. What everybody signed up for Lemonade. They're like, it's the next big thing. And did it take off? No, you can't predict what the next big thing is going to be. And like you're sort of not understanding the threat. Like, the Supreme Court doesn't just ban apps for a reason. So it's like, yeah, we could think it's stupid or annoying or wrong, but like, there's valid reasons. So just to like march into the Chinese army, like Red Note, sign me up, terms and conditions. Here's my data. Like, with like almost no care in the world. It's kind of weenie.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I will not be signing up for red. No, don't look for me there.

[A]

Yeah. Even threads that got millions of users in one day, the biggest app growth of all time in 24 hours. Zilp. Zero, zilch.

[B]

You can't predict these things. That's why TikTok was such an anomaly. It was musically. And all these kids and the next thing you know it's a 400 billion dollar app. Like you can't predict it. So good luck with what's gonna happen to your phone if you have Red Note. But it ain't be me. It ain't gonna be me.

[A]

My wee is Matt James. Yeah. For the announcement, the following not consulting with his woman and now actually makes you appreciate those joint statements that are like, we have decided to go our separate ways because that just shows like, respect for your. Agreed. And this shows, like going rogue and disrespect. So that's my weenie.

[B]

And also unfollowing like two fabulous creators is also. We need, like, behavior.

[A]

Two fabulous creators. He's obviously like not interested in queenie like content and just weenie like, like content.

[B]

Well, that's what will serve him.

[A]

I wonder if she still follows him.

[B]

Oh, that's a good call check.

[A]

Because that's grounds for unfollowing.

[B]

I made sure she still followed me. I'm like, maybe they both hate me.

[A]

She still follows you. Let's see Yet.

[B]

Don't worry, she still follows because she's a queen.

[A]

She still follows Matt.

[B]

Well, that'll be like a big thing when she unfollows him. And she didn't ask for this drama. So she's not prepared yeah, she's not.

[A]

Prepared, so just take it. Etc. Rage Enjoy the long weekend.

[B]

Yeah guys, thank you so much for a fabulous week. We're back on Tuesday, don't forget. Thank you so much for listening to the Toast and Monday Morning show. We deliver the fastest stories you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So if you're watching us on YouTube, feel free to subscribe and give this video a thumbs up. Also available this podcast and our podcast can be found Spotify and sister public. Ready Wire to cast folks. All the places I visit and podcast my house. Leave a five star review about a beautiful, sunny and wiggly talented we are.

[A]

Love ya. Bye. Let's go for the heart. Claude Moving over a little.