B (1:38)

I liked it in general, but it was really crazy to watch it, like, this weekend. Like, just a lot.

A (1:44)

Yes, that's true. They're always talking about the geopolitical climate of Iran.

B (1:47)

The show just starts saying, like, a lot of Persians and Iranians moved to.

A (1:51)

L. A during the revolution.

B (1:53)

During the revolution. And it's like they're unrevolutionizing right now.

A (1:58)

I actually think that they will end up covering it next season because one thing about the Shah is like. Like, they're not going to shy away from uncomfortable conversations about geopolitical issues about religion. Like, they went. Well, they tried to. They couldn't go to Iran, but they went to Israel, actually. And then, like, walked up to the border and they went to Turkey too.

B (2:14)

Maybe they'll go if Iran Becomes free.

A (2:17)

They will go, oh my God. Brand trip. Brand trip.

B (2:20)

But I feel like the old Shahs very much went there all the time, every day in the episode. I, I've only watched half of this first season, but I, I feel like times have changed and like they're not going to do that as much.

A (2:32)

Well, I do feel like the show was ahead of its time. The original show. Shouts of sunset.

B (2:36)

Yes.

A (2:36)

I don't see them going like super deep. But one thing about like Reza is like he's going to do what he wants. He's kind of an amazing reality star in the sense, like he actually doesn't give a fuck. Like he will talk about things that he wants to talk about.

B (2:46)

Yeah.

A (2:47)

The show like did have that Valley edit, like spice, which like I didn't like. Like, I don't know, just like boring Valley. Do you know what I mean?

B (2:57)

That's like the point.

A (2:58)

I know, but the thing about the Shahs is like, they're not like anyone else. So trying to put them in a show like shots, I'm too, I'm too close to it. Obviously. Like I was obsessed with the original show and this, this new show is good. I'm glad we have Mercedes like the OGs, but I don't know them trying to give it like the Lala Kent edit. I don't know, it's just not working.

B (3:15)

Yeah, well, I've only seen. I'm just getting acquainted.

A (3:17)

Oh, and to be clear, I saw one episode, right.

B (3:19)

I'm still meeting everyone, so I'm not like calling it or anything, but I enjoyed what I did watch.

A (3:23)

Me too.

B (3:23)

And I watched Traders, all three episodes same. It was grind. But I'm glad that I did because now I'm like, I care.

A (3:29)

Yeah.

B (3:30)

I have so many thoughts about the show and the format and this season in particular, but I know I'm gonna like frustrate people with what I have to say about the format.

A (3:38)

Well, we're gonna do our fifth and final story is an official Traders recap. So in case you're not caught up, we're gonna save it all for that.

B (3:44)

Yeah.

A (3:45)

Now can I tell you? Watch people we meet on vacation. Did you read that book?

B (3:48)

I did. I didn't like the book, but I've heard that the movie is very good.

A (3:51)

So people feel one of two ways. I think if you're like really, like, it's your favorite book ever, then you hate the mov. You're too close to it. And I can't. Honestly, I can't take your opinion Seriously, Because I'm judging the movie as a movie. I read the book years ago. Do I remember all the nuances? No, I just remember that they take a trip every year, and they're obviously in love, but they pretend like they're not.

B (4:09)

The movie was so stupid.

A (4:11)

Of course. I hate when people.

B (4:12)

Why fight love?

A (4:13)

No, not only that. At your big age, like, you're not able to identify a feeling. Like, you obviously like him, and you have a.

B (4:19)

You're a straight woman. You have a straight male best friend who you love, you travel with, you do everything with. Like, you're married, get married.

A (4:26)

Every time, like, your romantic partner or his romantic partner comes on a trip, it ends in disaster.

B (4:30)

Like, because, like, everyone can sense the feelings between the two of you.

A (4:33)

Both of your partners hate the other person because you're obviously in love. I just. I hate that.

B (4:37)

And you're wasting other people's time.

A (4:38)

And you're literally 30 at this point. You do have to suspend disbelief. You have to, like, not be a smart person to just, like, read the book and enjoy it. I thought the book was extremely mid. I remember being like, oh, this is a book everyone's talking about. Like, it's fine. And that it launched Emily Henry. Like, Emily Henry is like a Colleen. Every time she has a book, it's like, who's gonna get the rights? And it's a bit bestsel. And I happen to believe she's an industry plant. Like, she writes, like, very, very mid. Like, low.

B (5:01)

Like, mid people. Like, mid, low iq.

A (5:03)

Like, low IQ individuals. Yeah.

B (5:05)

No, no, but, like. And I read mid. Low IQ books sometimes because it's comforting to just, like, read something where I don't have to. My brain doesn't have to work.

A (5:12)

Yeah, yeah, but this book sort of launched.

B (5:15)

That all sounded very insulting, but, like, I didn't mean any of it as an insult to anyone.

A (5:18)

I wasn't. As a low IQ individual. I was. Nonsense.

B (5:20)

We're like, the authors who write for them.

A (5:23)

They know, listen, there's a cover for every pod. There's an audience for every writer.

B (5:26)

Not every book needs to be Da Vinci Code.

A (5:29)

Barbara Kingsolver.

B (5:30)

Not every book can be.

A (5:32)

Well, that's true. So having said all of that, I was just watching this movie, like, as a movie. I knew a little bit about the book. I thought it was adorable. Like, it was super cute. Have you heard about this thing called Netflix lighting?

B (5:44)

No.

A (5:45)

So they say now if you watch, like, a movie from, like, the early 2000s and a movie now, like, you can tell that they were made in. In different times. Because every movie now has this thing called Netflix lighting. And I don't like. I don't know how to describe it, but I know what they're talking about. Like, all movies look the same now. They look like TV shows. Like they just look like they were made on Netflix, you know, I guess.

B (6:03)

But also, like, technology has changed.

A (6:05)

Yeah. But it's also more like an aesthetic than like technology. Like, it's still all high quality. It just like looks Netflix.

B (6:10)

Okay.

A (6:11)

And I thought this movie really had Netflix lighting. And because I just learned about the phenomenon and I was really focused on that the whole time.

B (6:16)

We have Netflix sighting.

A (6:18)

No, I would say we're so different and unique, you know.

B (6:21)

Yeah.

A (6:22)

Netflix can handle it.

B (6:23)

We have sort of like startup industrious maverick lighting.

A (6:27)

Yeah. Very much like boots. Like, you know, bootstrap. Bootstrap.

B (6:30)

Maverick.

A (6:32)

Maverick. Bootstrap.

B (6:34)

I feel the lighting is very maverick.

A (6:37)

Yeah. Kind of renegade maverick. Yeah. And I. Both of the actors who were cast, I feel like when books get turned into movies, there's so much like fan casting. Like, I want Sabrina Carpenter to play. And they picked two random, two nobody's. I'd never heard of either of these people in my life. And they were such good actors. Like, bring back acting good. Do you know what I mean? I feel like with the Golden Globes, Britney Snow was there and it was a reminder to me that the Hunting Wives was nominated for something which is so crazy. Like, it was a bad show with bad acting that we loved because it was bad. And I feel like people who meet on vacation remind me like, you don't have to act bad. Like you can be good at acting. I'm actually.

B (7:15)

You can also like cast new people who are good actors. Not everyone I read were those two like unknown people.

A (7:21)

People who to me, I think they were like studios.

B (7:24)

Like try and get people with like big social media followings. And it's just like, it's so lame. I'm not watching your movie because you told like, I'll watch a movie because I want to see the movie. Cast the right people for the job. Please, a thousand percent let like influencers can stay influencers.

A (7:38)

Big casting news. I don't know if you saw they have cast Rapunzel Live action. People really thought it was going to be Serena Carpenter as Punzy.

B (7:45)

Isn't she being Alice in Wonderland?

A (7:47)

Oh, is she? Well, she's so.

B (7:48)

She's being something.

A (7:49)

Well, she's not Rapunzel. I believe it was a no name. I didn't Know her. And then Milo Manheim is Flynn Rider. Does that mean anything to you?

B (7:59)

Milo Manheim, Dancing with the Stars from.

A (8:01)

Dancing with the Stars fame. And I was like, oh, well, he surely must have done something after Dancing with the Stars because he's, you know, got this role. And when I was reading, like, the Variety article, it was like, milo Manheim of Dancing with the Stars fame? No, I swear.

B (8:11)

But he's in Naked Brothers Band.

A (8:14)

Is he, like, I don't know him.

B (8:15)

Besides, like, in a couple movies, like Home Again, you know, he's one of those guys like Nate.

A (8:19)

Okay, you're thinking of Nate and Alex Wolf, who are in Home Again and the Naked Brothers Band.

B (8:24)

He is Milo Mannheim. Wolf. He's our stepbrother.

A (8:29)

He's not, but I would, like, he's one of them. Is he?

B (8:32)

He's of that elk. I get a lot of DMs asking me, like, what they've forgotten what word I'm, like, you supposed to be using instead of elk. And I just want to let you guys know, like, I use elk, but I know the real word is ilk. In case you're, like, in a serious situation, you need to know the actual word. It's ilk.

A (8:49)

I L k. So Milo Manheim's brother is Cameron Mannheim?

B (8:53)

No, but he's in stuff with the Wolf Brothers.

A (8:56)

Is he?

B (8:56)

For sure? Sure.

A (8:59)

Like, I feel that call.

B (9:00)

Thank you. I think it's Home Again. Weren't there three guys?

A (9:03)

But I don't think that Milo Manheim was in Home Again.

B (9:09)

What was stopping him? Probably Dancing with the Stars, Milo Manheim movies and TV shows. Let's go. We do.

A (9:15)

Oh, no. People say, like, my little zombies.

B (9:18)

I love zombies.

A (9:20)

Yeah. This is like a little Gen Z for me. I don't know. Milo Mannheim.

B (9:24)

Literally, just zombies. Cool.

A (9:26)

At least they were in one thing together. That's kind of cool.

B (9:28)

And Zombies is like, 1, 2, 3, and 4. It's A.

A (9:32)

So that's. You know them from Zombies?

B (9:34)

Well, I have seen Zombies one and two.

A (9:36)

What?

B (9:37)

Yeah. Like, with the kids. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, when I like to watch Descendants. Like, oh, oh. I was like, you should watch Zombies. And it was cute, but it was no Descendants.

A (9:44)

Got it.

B (9:45)

But I under. But it definitely, like, had Riz.

A (9:47)

Okay. Riz.

B (9:49)

And then he's in a bunch of other stuff that I'm sure you guys will shout at me in the comments that he's in, but nothing that I've seen, you know, so don't like.

A (9:57)

So he's from Dancing with the Stars.

B (9:58)

So if you were gonna write like he's in Thanksgiving, just write, you girls look beautiful today.

A (10:02)

If you were gonna write anything, just write, you girls look beautiful today. Imagine if we just flooded the comments with you girls look beautiful today.

B (10:09)

That would be so sweet.

A (10:10)

And it's because I had such a productive, well balanced weekend. Watch the Golden Globes which we are going to talk about I assume in the stories story. Kylie was there. Everyone was kind of there. Yeah, it looked like, you know. Oh, it's okay.

B (10:22)

Yeah, it look cool if you're into that sort of thing.

A (10:24)

I know and I really like was not wanting to watch it because I was just like there's so many things I could be doing with my Sunday. I'm watch this crap self congratulatory like. But then I was like, you know, it is my job and I'm committed to the craft and I'm sure it'll come up in tomorrow's show. So I did watch it. I went to bed about 10 o' clock and Nikki Glaser said we're halfway through the show. I said, you're kidding. I just watched, you know enough. I saw Timothy when I saw the speech and there were a couple things I needed to see. I needed to make sure Hannah Einbender lost, which she did. Which was great for you know, the Jewish people. Non insufferable people everywhere. Mark Ruffalo lost. It was kind of an amazing night for me and some of my faves did win Timothy. So we'll get into it.

B (11:05)

Fave.

A (11:05)

No, I'm trying to think. We're going up. It's our moment. Of course. And they won non English film as well. The movie. And I know that that song is from a movie. Yeah.

B (11:19)

Okay. Yeah. If they're nominated for anything everyone else.

A (11:21)

Oh no, I'm sorry. They best nominated. They won best animation.

B (11:24)

It's an animated movie.

A (11:25)

I guess I thought it was a competition show about finding the next K Pop star.

B (11:29)

Oh, I thought it was like people's like a teeny like a Descendants, like just like people acting in K pop.

A (11:37)

No, I'm pretty sure it's like a fairy. Right?

B (11:39)

Yeah, I didn't know she's like a.

A (11:41)

Fairy like Tinkerbell vibe.

B (11:42)

I didn't know it was animated. But I just want to say I don't know anything about K Pop Demon Hunters except for the song. I completely support K Pop beaten Hunters.

A (11:49)

No. And the woman giving the speech like actually almost brought me to tears. She was like, it is so amazing to see like this global movie be so widely obsessed and obsessed and accepted when it's so deeply rooted in Korean culture. Like, they don't have big moments like that a lot. And she was so proud, and I was proud for her. I was, like, getting choked up. I love K Pop Demon Hunters, and I know nothing about it because we're going up in our moment, you know, together we're going. And also, I love. And I feel like we said this when.

B (12:16)

That's my register.

A (12:18)

I don't think so. When BTS had in the spot tonight. And it's just, like, feel good, joyful music. And that's what K Pop Demon Hunter is like. The message is amazing. That song is so good. Like, it lifts spirits. It bridges generational gaps. I love.

B (12:34)

I also feel like the kids haven't had, like, had a hit this big, I want to say, since Trolls Frozen. Let it go.

A (12:42)

Yeah.

B (12:42)

That took over the world. Yeah. You know, there's not there. I feel like. And I'm not into cape. I feel like it's for, like, older kids, and it's girly. What is K Pop Demon Hunters? I see all the girls dressed up for. For Halloween braid. That's how you know what's in the culture. Like, the Halloween costumes. Everyone was K Pop Demon Hunters. I'm happy for you guys.

A (13:03)

Yeah.

B (13:04)

I support it.

A (13:05)

Yeah.

B (13:06)

Maybe we should watch it. I didn't know it was animated. That would be weird to watch. Yeah.

A (13:09)

I have a really low bar for animation I'm not into. And I know that's like a part of parenthood where it's like, you just kind of have to watch these movies. And I just feel like that's gonna be Ben's. Like, Ben is obsessed with Disney. Like, I'll be in watching reality tv. Like, wake me up when it's over.

B (13:20)

Understood.

A (13:21)

You know?

B (13:23)

So, yeah, let's get into. Should we get into it? I feel like we. We didn't fully pffb.

A (13:28)

Refess f banner. Yeah.

B (13:30)

Do you want to tell everyone about the circus?

A (13:31)

Oh, my God, I do. We went to the circus in Miami on Saturday, like, with all the kids. It was like, my first outing as, like, a mom. Like, you guys always do stuff like that. And I was so happy to be there. Let me tell you what they don't tell you about the circus.

B (13:45)

She has some.

A (13:46)

I actually have so many thoughts and notes, and I feel like it must be really hard for the creative directors. Can we into the Ringling Brothers? I don't know if there are other ones.

B (13:53)

So it was the one. It wasn't like, no, no.

A (13:55)

It was like official, like circus.

B (13:57)

Like Ringling Barnum, bro.

A (13:59)

And they were saying, this ain't no party like a Ringling party. Because a Ringling party don't stop. Me and your husband, we're non stop say that ain't nobody like a Ringling party. Because a Ringling party don't stop. And I have so many thoughts. I do feel sad for like whoever's job it is, like, come up with the songs and the choreography and stuff. It must be really, really hard for them to not tap into the Greatest Showman soundtrack. I must be like, there must be a reason why they don't. Whether it's like, it's too expensive to clear. Because I felt really stupid being there, not listening to any. And they couldn't even. They needed to tell.

B (14:26)

They need rewrite the stars for trapeze. Yes.

A (14:29)

And Zach was just like, well, they just need to do a Greatest Showman tour for kids. Like, it doesn't need to be the Ringling. It would be nice if they all like, I just felt so stupid. I was sitting there being like, whoa, whoa. Now I do believe, like, woke culture. Sorry not to sound like Bill Maher. Woke culture has ruined the circus. And I'm actually down, you know, I don't. I don't wish long for the days where we're like, you know, abusing animals and like staring at the freaks. So I just feel like the circus.

B (14:56)

Like, needs to end and it's like, what are you showcasing if not the things that you used to showcase at the circus? Which I'm not. Nobody wants to see that.

A (15:05)

No. And I'm not, because I'm not saying like that it's bad that woke culture, like, that's where woke slayed, you know, like, we don't need to be doing that. But what, what goes on at the circus if not that? I'm not sure, like, what did you.

B (15:16)

Guys go for actually?

A (15:17)

So there was like a fake dog, like a robot dog. It was like actually stupid.

B (15:22)

Trapeze acrobats, tramplings.

A (15:25)

That's the thing. It's a two hour show that was an intermission.

B (15:29)

And that's like Cirque du Soleil. How do they differentiate themselves?

A (15:32)

The trapeze was really amazing. Like, real. Like, I was awestruck. The kids at that point, I think were like, really over it. I was like, wait, we're just getting started. Some of the other tricks were like, cool unicycle. I don't know. I just feel like as a society we have Moved past the need for a circus. Although I hate to cut children's programming for the arts, you know, I feel like, you know, Ms. Darbus, the arts are so important.

B (15:53)

But I do feel like the circus needs to evolve, and that's on them to figure out.

A (15:57)

I know. And that's on the Greatest Showman. That's on Pasek and Paul.

B (16:01)

Greatest Showman can barely get their musical theater production, Broadway off the ground. They're not taking on a world tour. So that's why Ringling Brothers should collaborate with Greatest Showman. I didn't go to the circus because I was home with Max. So, like, I did. I missed all of this.

A (16:14)

Yeah. And I forgot to fill you in. And this is probably not a reflection.

B (16:16)

I had my husband on the phone on my day. He was, like, catching up with friends and family. Like, I heard the sound bite over and over again. The circus is not what it used to be.

A (16:23)

And your husband, like, could not get over the fact that there were no clowns.

B (16:26)

Yeah. Which I guess. Are clowns canceled?

A (16:30)

I think they're considered really spooky. Like, it's not family friendly. If there are clowns. Clowns, like, most kids are afraid of.

B (16:36)

Yeah. I'm not.

A (16:37)

Oh, and to be clear, I'm not the only person who thought this way. The arena was less than 50% full. I thought we got there early. Now, this is more of a reflection on this arena, the Kasaya arena, more so than the Ringling Brothers. Let me tell you some of the best food I've ever had for. I had this hot pretzel, and I'm from New York City. Like, I know good hot pretzels. The best pretzel I've ever had in my entire life. Like, the zip bound could not stop me from housing this pretzel, and I had to eat it behind the kids because the kids were, like, just getting, like, little pop better. And I was, like, literally hiding behind a chair. Like, we were at fat camp eating this pretzel. It was so delicious. Like, so salty, so soft. It was literally just centigrade. It felt like cotton candy. Like, it was amazing. And everyone agreed.

B (17:16)

Oh, wow. Looks like we have to take in a heat game at the Cat's Eye Arena.

A (17:20)

Oh, Cat's Eye. No, that's.

B (17:21)

That' of Demon Hunters.

A (17:23)

I think it's called the Kasiah Arena. Something like that.

B (17:26)

Kasai. Yeah. Yeah.

A (17:28)

This pretzel was so good, you guys. It's like, I haven't. Like, that's what I came home and talked to people about not the. The music or anything.

B (17:34)

Yeah.

A (17:35)

And they were, like, just playing, like, doja cat and like, like, popular music. It felt weird. It felt weird. No, like, hey, to rock around. To rock around. That's right on time. It's like Love Run DMC at the circus. I don't know. It just. It didn't. They should have played. Of course not like, nothing. It was really weird. And then I got to thinking about the performers, you know, of course, as an empath. Yeah.

B (17:58)

Where do they come from?

A (17:59)

As an empath? I couldn't help but look at these people, like, wonder, how do you become a performer on the circus? Like, it's not like they live in Miami. Like, they're traveling the. You know, they're off to North Carolina. And what's it like to be in the traveling circus?

B (18:13)

And is it like, is that your stated goal or is it, you know, you were a gymnast and now you're doing circus, and then you're gonna, you know, you go on to do other things. Like.

A (18:22)

So we were actually pipeline. We discussing that as well, your husband and I, about how a lot of them, especially in the trapeze, were probably on some sort of Olympic track at one point, because they were that sophisticated in their.

B (18:33)

On Disney on Ice.

A (18:34)

So Olivia was being such a. Know it all. She's so funny. Like, when it started, like, we just knew it wasn't going to be, like, amazing. And she was like, we have to go to Disney on Ice. She was like. She was just being like that mom who's, like, done it all already and I'm new here. She was like, have you seen Disney on Ice? I'm like, why the would I've seen Disney on Ice? And she was like, like, it's so much better. Like, you really have to go see it. And I was like, okay. Like, take me.

B (18:54)

Well, the thing is, like, Disney and ice has a lot to pull from.

A (18:56)

Right, Right. A lot of material.

B (18:58)

Yeah. And really, like, they. They sort of just rest on their laurels of par.

A (19:02)

Gi the soundtrack, too.

B (19:03)

There's not. But there's not. Like, the circus has to have to do so many things. Like, even if they slayed unicycles, like, okay. And then everyone's like, what's next? It's like, the circus can never be doing enough.

A (19:12)

No. And I do want to say about the unicycles, I feel like I use them as an example. They actually were really good.

B (19:16)

Video of them jumping on a trampoline on unicycle.

A (19:19)

And that wasn't Even the most impressive part, like, we were really. And when I tell you, the kids, like, could not have cared less. They kept. There was a big screen, like, playing the music, and the kids were just watching the screen.

B (19:26)

It was two hours of screen time.

A (19:28)

Literally.

B (19:28)

No one told me that never again.

A (19:30)

It was two hours of screen time.

B (19:31)

You're alive.

A (19:32)

No, no, I'm totally.

B (19:32)

Like, they went to a movie, but.

A (19:33)

They did have a big screen, as.

B (19:36)

They should, to, like, you know, show.

A (19:38)

What'S happening on the floor. In case you're up in the.

B (19:40)

In the risers didn't watch the live show. They watched the screen.

A (19:42)

They were just, like, sort of, like, looking at everything.

B (19:44)

Sure. Yeah, sure.

A (19:46)

So I went to the circus.

B (19:48)

Great.

A (19:49)

Yeah.

B (19:49)

Wouldn't recommend. But you had a nice time. If you're looking for, like, you know.

A (19:54)

I love a, you know, a children's activity where we're seated.

B (19:56)

Yeah.

A (19:57)

You know, a lot of these, you know, motherhood, parent activities are physically laborious. And I'm just not at a stage in my life where I can be, like, squatting and rolling around, you know, music class, like, the. Sitting on the floor, it kills me. My legs fall asleep. My back is broken. I'm hunched over. Like, an actual.

B (20:09)

Like, one of those chairs. Like a cozy creek.

A (20:11)

A thousand percent. Or like. Or like a soccer mom chair.

B (20:13)

Like, but you need to be on the floor, so you need to be on the floor chair.

A (20:16)

I know the sitting at music class, like, it's. I'm. I'm almost, like, at my limit. Like, I can't do music class anymore. She literally just started, like, so to be clear, I really like seated affairs, so I'm not gonna clown on the circus. And anytime you guys want to go to, like, a ticketed event where we're sitting, I'm down.

B (20:33)

Yeah. Okay, great. Well, thank you.

A (20:35)

Yeah.

B (20:36)

And, yeah, consider.

A (20:37)

I just feel like me giving a negative review. Is that gonna be, like, the final nail in the coffin for Ringling? Like, I feel bad.

B (20:42)

No, no. I think, like, there's so much potential.

A (20:46)

Yeah.

B (20:46)

You know, and agreed. People love children's programming. Disney and I sells out so quick because we're looking for things like that to do. Right.

A (20:53)

And so that Jackie was literally empty.

B (20:55)

Yeah. I could see that in some of the videos. Consider partnership with the greatest showman.

A (21:01)

Don't consider. Pursue actively.

B (21:03)

And anything can be, like, renewed and reinvigorated. It's true.

A (21:08)

Like, yeah.

B (21:09)

That.

A (21:10)

Yeah.

B (21:10)

You guys have such amazing.

A (21:11)

Just because you can't, like, beat the. Out of elephants doesn't mean you can't put on a good show.

B (21:15)

Anything to begin with. No.

A (21:16)

And it's like, try a little harder. Honestly.

B (21:18)

Yeah. Embrace your inner pt. He would have figured it out.

A (21:21)

Okay, so there was a character named.

B (21:22)

I heard a dragon named P.T.

A (21:24)

Yeah. And there was also like a DJ and there was like a girl, like, she was like, show running, the whole thing. She was cute.

B (21:30)

Yeah.

A (21:30)

I don't know.

B (21:31)

The thing is, the point of the circus, like, is to entertain. So you're saying you can't entertain us. That's not true.

A (21:36)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel bad.

B (21:40)

Yeah.

A (21:43)

I feel like maybe some of them were like college cheerleaders too, because, you know, they talked in cheer about how, like, there's no professional career for a college cheerleader. Like, collegiate is the highest level that you can perform. And then you have to, what, like, go work in marketing? So maybe some of them join the.

B (21:56)

Circus and actually doesn't sound like when you said, like, you run off and join the circus, like, that used to mean something else. Else.

A (22:03)

Yeah, it used to mean you're crazy. No, but like, when you just said.

B (22:07)

Like.

A (22:10)

Actually, you know what? I was really surprised by it.

B (22:11)

Now it means that you're a touring artist, I guess.

A (22:14)

Yeah. A lot of the performers were Asian and I think that a lot of the, like, dancing and choreographed style is inspired by, like, Asian martial arts because it was like a lot of jumping. And that was impressive. That was impressive. And I wasn't expecting that.

B (22:27)

So it sounds like what they need is, like, better packaging, like, better songs.

A (22:30)

And like, they need better music.

B (22:31)

Yeah. And showmanship.

A (22:33)

Yeah.

B (22:34)

Like, they've got the talent, they've got the stuff.

A (22:36)

Like, one of the hosts was literally Ryan from High School Musical. Like, I couldn't not see it and he was like, having the time of his life. It was cute. It was cute. You know, if you're into that sort of thing.

B (22:47)

Okay, well, now I think without further ado, let's get into the fast five stories that you to do need to know.

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B (27:23)

Thank you. Our first story, Golden Globes 2026 complete list of winners and other notable moments. Shall we?

A (27:31)

Yep.

B (27:32)

Start with winners or start with Nikki Glaze her.

A (27:34)

Let's start with Nikki Glaser.

B (27:35)

I watched her monologue in the car on the way here. Yes. I drive homo brag and I drive a car by myself and that's something that I can do.

A (27:42)

That's great.

B (27:43)

Whilst listening to a monologue.

A (27:44)

Yeah, that's crazy.

B (27:45)

And I thought it was hysterical. I laughed out loud so many times.

A (27:48)

Yeah. She is just great at this. And I think it's like a really delicate balance because she's like known for roasting and sometimes when you come on and roast, it gets uncomfortable. And so it really is like a perfect balance of being funny, being snarky, roasting people in a way that's like, not mean, not gonna offend anyone. I don't think anybody took anything like too, too to heart because she didn't say anything that mean except to Kevin Hart and like, she knows him personally. You could tell. I thought she was great. The out. She brings everything. She has the wit, the snark. But she also had like maybe like six or seven outfit changes and she just kept looking like, more amazing every time she walked out. You. They made her. She made them play a Taylor Swift song. Joe Alwyn was in the audience. Like, just seriously, that's our girl. That's our girl. And I feel like for the next couple of years, we don't need to give this job to anyone else.

B (28:29)

Ain't broke. Don't fix it. I haven't like, seen anything of any, you know, awkward moments. No, the monologue. Oh.

A (28:35)

Except there was this, like, song. I didn't, I didn't like it. And it was like, cute at the end because they brought Fran gesture out and like, she made like, your voice is annoying. Like it was funny. But that one like thing where she just did karaoke to golden from K Pop Demon Hunters. But she like changed the Words and wrote, like. I. I didn't like that.

B (28:52)

But was it, like, offensive and awkward or just not funny and not your favorite?

A (28:56)

It wasn't offensive at all.

B (28:57)

It wasn't like a Joe Koi.

A (28:59)

No. I feel like they had just come back from break. People were still, like, standing, and she's, like, dancing. They're like. Everyone's, like, schmoozing. It was like. That was just. That was the only low point.

B (29:05)

It just didn't hit. But, like, it was.

A (29:06)

Wasn't bad or offensive. No.

B (29:08)

Great.

A (29:08)

It didn't hit.

B (29:09)

I think she should get the job again next year. And I. I would imagine that she will.

A (29:14)

I would imagine that she will, too. It is the hardest, worst job. And she executes flawlessly every time.

B (29:20)

No, she's putting everyone on notice because it's like, you can do this job. Maybe it's not the hardest, worst job. Maybe if you're just a funny person, like, it's doable.

A (29:27)

That's a really good point.

B (29:28)

Because for so long, we're like, it's a thankless job. There's no funny jokes to make with the people in the.

A (29:33)

The room.

B (29:34)

Two years in a row, funny jokes. The audience is laughing. The people are laughing. It's a job that can be done now.

A (29:41)

I thought that the Golden Globes were so interesting because obviously it's movies and tv and, like, I. I feel like I don't ever really have issues with, like, who they nominated. Like, yeah, it's all the good, popular shows, but they're, like, fringe categories that I find really interesting. Of course, last night was the first time they did podcasts. They also do standup comedy, and I was really shocked because I had not heard of one of the comedy specials that was nominated. Did you know Kumail Nanjiani had a special? No, but, like, Sarah Silverman had a special. Bill Maher had a special. Ricky Gervais was nominated, and he won. And, yeah, sure, he releases specials a lot, so, like, I would assume that he had one. I was shocked. I had literally never heard of any of these specials. I just feel like they totally missed the mark on. That's not the specials people were talking about this year. The ones you know. And it's like, more like Internet, but, like, the. The. The big podcasters. Andrew Schultz, like, that's who people talk about.

B (30:33)

Yeah. I can't say I'm up on the specials these days, because I'm really not either. There are so many specials. I've kind of, like, exited my era of watching so many of watching the Specials.

A (30:43)

I feel like people have moved on from comedy specials. Maybe that's, like, a hot take. But I feel like there were a couple of years where it was like.

B (30:50)

Comedy specials, or maybe at least for me, like, and I feel like maybe there was a time where I was like, comedy, you know, and I was like, following more comedians, and someone really has to have a great hook if I'm gonna sit down and watch your special or, like, been. I feel like we watched Ellen's or attempted to.

A (31:04)

Right.

B (31:04)

Because of, like, what does she say? You know, and so when there's not that, it's just like, here's another special about the last year of my life.

A (31:10)

Right.

B (31:11)

If I don't follow you that closely to begin with, I don't care. I don't care.

A (31:13)

And then the ones that, like, made waves like, that I heard about were just none of these.

B (31:18)

Yeah, like, Golden Globes is a little.

A (31:19)

Antiquated giving to, like, these old school comedians. And it's like, yeah, well, you might have had a good special, but no one's talking about it.

B (31:24)

Yeah. Yeah. I guess the only special I watched last year that I can remember and. Because you just said it was Andrew Schultz.

A (31:30)

Right, Right.

B (31:31)

But I. Yeah, maybe there's another one, but you didn't say it, so I don't remember it.

A (31:35)

And then with podcasts, you know what? I didn't even realize I loved, first of all, like, them doing a podcast category, like, seriously obsessed. And I'm so happy Amy won. I've actually done, like, a total 180 on Amy because I really respect that she got up there and was like, I'm new here. It's such a slay that she has been podcasting the shortest and won. Like, that's huge. And I didn't even realize, like, the geopolitical climate of her being nominated up against her ex husband, Will Arnett from Smart List. And I'm so glad they lost. But every single one nominated was an interview show. I didn't even realize that. I didn't know if Mel Robbins. But she does. She just interviews people. I don't know. Like, what about justice for the scripted shows? You know, there are other types of shows.

B (32:12)

Oh, I feel like if you're gonna get into scripted shows, that's a different category.

A (32:16)

Like, well, yes, then it's a. Then it is a. A podcast award show if you're going into genre.

B (32:22)

And I actually think the more celebrity podcasts there are, like, the more there is a need for the potties, because, like, people, they like to do award shows around celebrities.

A (32:29)

There is a need for the potties.

B (32:31)

They're like, oh, we don't need an award show for you, S.O.B.

A (32:33)

Yeah.

B (32:34)

So for that reason, this is a great start. I'm looking at everyone who was nominated. What's up first?

A (32:43)

NPR is that.

B (32:44)

But not the. The Daily.

A (32:46)

It's like the Daily, but the Daily didn't get nominated. So there was a very specific criteria as well for who could have even been selected for a nomination.

B (32:54)

What was the criteria?

A (32:55)

You had to be one of the top 25 podcasts. So there's only 25 you could have chosen from.

B (32:58)

That feels right.

A (32:59)

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

B (33:01)

Right?

A (33:01)

Yeah.

B (33:03)

And I'm not mad about Amy winning. I think it's really. It's crazy that she's been doing it.

A (33:07)

It's crazy.

B (33:07)

But, like, the Golden Globes just represent the year of the art. So, like, who. They don't care that you didn't podcast in 2024, right?

A (33:14)

Objection. Relevance.

B (33:15)

Not.

A (33:15)

Yeah.

B (33:16)

So her 2025 year was better than everyone else's according to the Golden Globes. I hope better than the toast. But as we said, it was an interview thing.

A (33:22)

I hope, like, ggh, like, feels good about the inclusion of podcast categories. I hope they would do it again. Like, I really. I think it's so good for the medium. It's such a. It's such a sign of respect.

B (33:32)

It's very exciting.

A (33:33)

It is.

B (33:34)

And I think in this case, I'm happy. I'm glad for celebrities that, like, they're the ones moving the ball on this.

A (33:40)

They really gave us a platform.

B (33:42)

They gave us a platform. They uplifted, did these voices. So let's get into the winner, shall we?

A (33:47)

Yeah. Sorry. Oh, do you have, like, a best dressed?

B (33:52)

Oh, I wasn't watching that closely, but I thought Jennifer Lawrence, that was my best friend.

A (33:56)

She looked amazing.

B (33:57)

Kylie looks amazing. But seriously, Kylie could wear anything. It's just Kylie is there.

A (34:02)

Right. She also didn't walk the carpet. So, like, I don't know if we can really include her. It's like, I need to see a red carpet photo.

B (34:06)

Yeah. So here are the winners of the major categories. This usually doesn't mean anything to me, but this year more than ever. I've never even heard of some of these.

A (34:14)

It means less and less.

B (34:14)

It means so little. Best drama was Hamnet.

A (34:19)

Yeah. And I.

B (34:20)

Not Hamlet with a typo.

A (34:21)

That's what Nikki Glazer. They did a segment, it was like, oh, let's see the trendy searches. What people are looking up how to spell Hamlet.

B (34:28)

Oh, that's funny.

A (34:29)

Something like that. Yeah. It was funny.

B (34:31)

Your joke about Hamnet Spanx. So that hamnet beat out Frankenstein. It was just an accident. That's the name of a movie. It was just an accident. The secret agent. Sentimental value. You and sinners. I've heard.

A (34:45)

I've heard of sinners. And they won box office achievement. Haley Steinfeld was there with her bump. Michael B. Jordan was there looking sexy.

B (34:52)

Like a funny Nikki Glaser joke was. I saw Wicked too. For money.

A (34:56)

Hilarious. Hilarious. And they cut to Ariana Grande at that moment. She did laugh.

B (35:00)

I was in my car, so I didn't get to watch the reactions. Reactions. Because I'm a safe driver.

A (35:05)

Oh, and the Leonardo DiCaprio bit was actually very funny and very true. Like I was thinking, I'm like, she made a joke about his girlfriend. I'm like, she's smarter than that. Like that's. We're so played out. Like 25 year old girlfriend. And she was like. And I have to make that joke because we literally know nothing else about you. And it's like, yes, actually. Like, what does Leo like?

B (35:20)

Yeah.

A (35:21)

Besides 25 year old girls.

B (35:23)

Best comedy or musical? One battle after another.

A (35:26)

So that was Leo's movie, Guillermo del Guillermo. And that's who he went on New Heights with to promote that movie. Okay, that's. Yeah, that was just. That's my limited knowledge. I feel like it's Nakia. Benicio Del Toro. Are they brothers?

B (35:44)

Or maybe he's Adele. Something else. I don't think he's a Del Toro.

A (35:47)

Yeah, Benicio del Blank. He looks like Brad Pitt, by the way. I thought it was Brad Pitt.

B (35:52)

Yeah, I thought that. Did you saw a picture like from the party and someone was like hugging someone that looked like Brad Pitt. So I went to look, I'm like, he's hugging Brad Pitt.

A (36:00)

Right. Benicio. Oh, and I have one more thing to say about the.

B (36:03)

What's his name?

A (36:05)

Del Toro. Not brothers. No relation. I have something else to say. I feel like it's gonna be really unpopular opinion. I thought Nikki's bit about George Clooney. I've been meaning to ask you something. My Nespresso. Hysterical.

B (36:16)

Hysterical.

A (36:17)

You didn't watch but like the Fabissa on a mall. Like, girl, smile. You're on. Can a camera like Claudia.

B (36:23)

I was wondering what she was going to say. I have a question I want to ask. Yeah, but it was gonna be like.

A (36:26)

Something vulgar or like, you know, cast me in your movie. Like hilarious. Like a mother had Such a mug. I was like, girl, you're at the Golden Globes live. Live a little. Let your hair down.

B (36:39)

More of that, like, calling out people for their sponsors.

A (36:42)

It's so funny. So funny.

B (36:44)

I didn't even know he's the face of knit spreads.

A (36:47)

You didn't even see his commercials.

B (36:49)

Not really.

A (36:49)

Oh, my God. It's all over.

B (36:51)

That's maybe because they know. They already got me. I have a net spread.

A (36:54)

Yeah, right. You're the, like, target demographic. Target check. Right.

B (36:57)

Okay. Now, best actor in a drama, Wagner Mora for the Secret Agent.

A (37:03)

Okay.

B (37:04)

Congratulations, Wagner.

A (37:05)

Love you.

B (37:06)

Best actress in a drama, Jessie Buckley.

A (37:10)

Hamnet. Okay.

B (37:11)

Congratulations, Jesse. Best non English language film, the Secret Agent. I didn't know that was a non English language film. As I read this list, you learn something new every day. Best animated film, K Pop Demon Hunter.

A (37:30)

So cute.

B (37:30)

And you know what? I guess it wasn't like a stacked year because the only other movie I've heard of is Zootopia 2.

A (37:35)

Right.

B (37:36)

And that's really because of Dancing with the Stars.

A (37:38)

Right.

B (37:40)

And I am a Mama.

A (37:41)

Right.

B (37:42)

I don't know these. So.

A (37:44)

Yeah, they would have won regardless.

B (37:45)

They would have run regardless. But they could have swept anything. Yeah. Best director, Paul Thomas Anderson. One battle or another.

A (37:52)

So Judd Apatow gave out this award. Award.

B (37:56)

Okay.

A (37:57)

And he did this bit that was so crazy. I don't know what the reaction was. Please sign off in the comments. Did you like it? I thought it was, like, so, hey, look at me. Like, it was just. He was just being like, well, they obviously asked me to give out the word for best director because they think I'm, like, the best director ever. And, like, I'm the best. And it was just like, kind of.

B (38:17)

Have you ever won?

A (38:18)

I don't know. It's, like, kind of girly. Like, I don't know. I really did not like it. It. And he's like, I want to thank my muse, Leslie. And like, I was just like, can you stop? Oh, also, I need to talk about JLo.

B (38:31)

He's thanking his muse, Leslie, though. He hasn't won anything.

A (38:33)

Right. That was like, the joke. Like, I'm. Look, I feel like I won because I've been asked to give this a one.

B (38:39)

I guess it's, like, girly, because it's, like, unserious. And that's how. Like, that's girl humor.

A (38:44)

Yeah. It's just like, I'm the best. Yeah. No, and it's like, yucky. I don't know. I really didn't like it. I understand But I could see people being like, Judd Abid. That was so funny.

B (38:51)

Well, they definitely have, like, Judd goggles on those people. Like, some people are just, like, Judd apologists.

A (38:56)

Yeah. And he did say. Which I thought was actually not cool. He was talking about, like, people in the room, and he was like. And Seth Rogan left because he won his award. And then Joe Rogan's. Joe. What's his name? Jed Avata. Said that he had left. And I thought that was, like, actually really uncool. Like, everybody was in the room seated for your award. What about the person at the very end?

B (39:17)

Uncool that Seth left? Uncool that Judd said. Said it.

A (39:19)

I don't give a.

B (39:20)

Like, yeah.

A (39:21)

The fact that he left. I don't know. I thought that was really lame.

B (39:24)

Like, I think Seth Rogen is lame. So I'm down to clown.

A (39:27)

But now I have, like, a really good reason. Like, I just thought it was not cool. Like, you got everyone to stand up for you and, like, not be seat fillers. Right. Like, it's just rude.

B (39:35)

Yeah.

A (39:36)

I thought it was weird.

B (39:38)

Best actor in a comedy or musical. Our boy Timothy Chalamet from Marty Supreme.

A (39:44)

Now we got a very small Kylie. Yeah, we got a Kylie reference, but not, like, what we got at the critics choice. I feel like actually also really liked his speech about how he just was really raised by his dad to be, like, so grateful for everything. And that's how in years past, he's come to this award ceremony and left empty handed and, like, not been upset about it. Like, felt so grateful and that this just means so much more. And, you know, thanking everybody at the film. Josh Shafty, yada, yada, Odessa, the cast, the crew. And my partner. My. And my partner. I love you.

B (40:14)

No, Kylie said, my parents and my partner, I. I love you. So now she's, like, part of the family. He can't say the same thing that he said two weeks ago. Like, boring.

A (40:22)

But he said partner again.

B (40:23)

Yeah, but, like, she is part of his unit.

A (40:27)

Yeah. And the. Yeah.

B (40:29)

And I'm waiting for the Oscar speech. Like, that's the big one.

A (40:31)

Oh, right. So I think it's pretty clear, like, he has a. Like, more. More than ever has a real chance. And I do think I might have to tune into the Oscars for that reason.

B (40:39)

However, he'll be up against. Really. Because the best. There's two categories. Yeah.

A (40:43)

It's easier to win the Golden Globe because they split the movies into categories.

B (40:46)

So Wagner Mora won best actor in a drama.

A (40:49)

So it's Timothy Versus Wagner.

B (40:50)

He needs to look out for Wagner.

A (40:51)

Yeah.

B (40:51)

That's all I'm saying.

A (40:52)

Yeah.

B (40:53)

Cinematic and box office achievement, sinners. Best actress in a musical or comedy. Rose Byrne. If I had legs, I'd kick you.

A (41:01)

Oh, okay. She was like, shook because she's in like some like, random independent Josh Safdie film. Like, she, like the Josh Safy film is Marty Supreme. And she was there, like on this, like, art film. She had no clue she was gonna win. I was wondering if she was still married to Bobby Cannavale. And then she said, bobby, I love you. He couldn't be here tonight. I wasn't sure if she was joking.

B (41:17)

Joking.

A (41:18)

He couldn't be here tonight because we're purchasing a. A what? A bearded dragon. And he's like, at this expo in New Jersey now. It was just so specific that I thought, like, it was the truth because she had such details.

B (41:31)

What's a bearded dragon?

A (41:32)

Like a pet? Like a lizard? Yeah.

B (41:34)

Oh, is it?

A (41:35)

Yeah, pet lizard, you know, so I just. Did anybody else know if she was serious or joking? And I love Roseburn. She's so underrated.

B (41:44)

Pet lizard. How do you know that?

A (41:45)

Cuz she just said.

B (41:46)

Oh, but how do you know that? Is that a known thing?

A (41:48)

Yeah, I think it's known, at least. I don't know.

B (41:52)

It sounds like you're the word the world. Like, why is that a bearded dragon?

A (41:55)

I don't know. I don't know how to make up the rules.

B (41:57)

I'm not. I see bearded dragons every day.

A (42:00)

Yeah, you see iguanas every day.

B (42:02)

No, I see lizards.

A (42:02)

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

B (42:04)

I always take a picture, send it to Margo. That's how like, I lizard. She's with me. I didn't ever heard of this or whatever, but Roseburn's amazing actress, so.

A (42:12)

Yeah, I love her.

B (42:13)

Give it to her. If it wasn't going to be for Annie, it should be for this.

A (42:16)

And I feel like she really did not think she was going to win. Like, she brought her brother, like, as her date. Like, I think if she had a real chance, like, her husband would have been there.

B (42:22)

Yeah. The only other buzzy one that I saw was best supporting actress Tiana Taylor for one battle after.

A (42:29)

Yes, she really was shook. She did not know she was gonna win. She gave a great speech. She looked gorgeous. I think most notably a lot of the, like, TV shows that we thought were going to win, like, White Love, Lotus. Three of the women were nominated in the category for Carrie Coon, Amy Lee Wood and Parker Posey. And none of Them won.

B (42:45)

I think that's great.

A (42:46)

Who did win for the woman for which. For the show.

B (42:50)

Which show? TV show.

A (42:52)

Like actress in a TV show, maybe supporting actress in a TV show.

B (42:55)

Who? Oh, that.

A (42:56)

Oh yeah.

B (42:56)

Jean.

A (42:57)

Jean Smart. She deserves it. And she wins always. So like we didn't.

B (43:01)

Oh, Best supporting actress. I see the three white load. I guy. We have Aaron Dougherty from adolescence.

A (43:07)

Yeah. Oh, adolescent swept too. The little kid won.

B (43:10)

She won the dad Netflix show. And it was filmed in one take. Was it? Is that the one that was filmed in one take?

A (43:17)

I didn't know that that was. That was a thing.

B (43:19)

Yeah.

A (43:20)

That's pretty cool.

B (43:20)

Never ended the camera.

A (43:22)

That's actually very cool.

B (43:23)

Yeah.

A (43:24)

Like a play. Yeah.

B (43:26)

But it's like you could not, you.

A (43:28)

Know, like, why are you doing all that? Yeah, I saw we have this amazing thing called like Final Cut Pro.

B (43:33)

Our fellow family.

A (43:36)

Our fellow family.

B (43:37)

Josh Peck. He was like talking about it months ago. Like about. He's like, you could cut.

A (43:42)

It's such a good call. You know what? This has kind of been like a weekend for me of like realizing stuff.

B (43:46)

Uh huh.

A (43:47)

And you actually helped me come to this realization because last night I put Ruby in his pajamas without an undershirt. And I don't know why, like, I didn't realize till you said it. Like I thought they were literally gonna cuff me up and take me to jail if I didn't put the baby's onesie on. And then the. The pajamas, every outfit he wears undersh. And then I had this realization. I'm like, we also could not. Like, we're in Florida, it's hot. He doesn't be wearing multiple layers. And he's also just like a baby who runs hot. It was just this sort of like freeing realization.

B (44:15)

They're kind of.

A (44:15)

And he always cries when I put the undershirt on.

B (44:18)

Like, oh, well, you got to get the one side snap down the side.

A (44:20)

I do. But like it's just always like the arms. Like it's a thing.

B (44:23)

No. And it's like when baby is a newborn, they should have one more layer.

A (44:26)

Yes.

B (44:26)

So if you're wearing Jas, they should have Jamis and an under layer.

A (44:29)

My king is eight months and he's enormous. Like he's fine.

B (44:32)

And as they get bigger, like that no longer. Longer applies. Plus if there's.

A (44:35)

And I just bought like new kite baby onesies. But like, I don't eat them.

B (44:38)

I'll take them. Sure.

A (44:39)

Yeah.

B (44:40)

Actually you could wear them as a shirt.

A (44:41)

Shirt. Yeah, yeah, yeah. With nothing Else.

B (44:43)

Yeah, yeah, no, you're definitely, like, on that onesie grind with baby number one.

A (44:46)

Yeah.

B (44:47)

And then it starts to be like, how about that ones?

A (44:49)

Do we really need it?

B (44:53)

Okay, so is that Golden Globes? We feel good.

A (44:56)

We feel good.

B (44:56)

I feel good about it.

A (44:58)

Which. Yeah, yeah. What one?

B (45:00)

Like, best pick picture one day after another. Oh, right.

A (45:04)

Oh, right. Battle. One battle.

B (45:05)

And then also comedy.

A (45:06)

Right. Which was what? Comedy or musical?

B (45:09)

I believe we said it. Best comedy or musical, One battle after another. Okay, so best drama ham.

A (45:21)

Oh, right, right, right.

B (45:22)

Yeah, we said it.

A (45:23)

I know I said I was gonna, like, watch all the Oscar movies this year because I had such a good time last year. And, like, it's fun to recap when you, like, know stuff, but the thing is, nobody ever agrees with me. So I watched all those shitty movies last year just for anora to win. Like, I don't agree with my fellow voter, so you can all go eat my ass. How about that?

B (45:37)

Yeah. And there's so many better things worth your time. Like, seriously, if you're gonna devote that time, like, do Real Houses of Salt.

A (45:42)

Lake City or like, Trader Season three.

B (45:44)

Yeah, it's true. Yeah. And I think that's what, like, our.

A (45:47)

Audience wants from us. Yeah. Please don't ask.

B (45:50)

Waiting for you to watch.

A (45:50)

Don't ask me to do it. It was just a fun thing to do when I was pregnant, when I literally, like, had nothing but time.

B (45:54)

Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Alex Earl reveals her mom was diagnosed with breast cancer while she competed on Dancing with the Stars.

A (46:03)

Devastating.

B (46:04)

So Alex Earl just revealed that her mom, Alyssa, has been diagnosed with breast cancer. Yesterday, she opened up about her mom's health journey in a post shared on Instagram and Tick Tock posting a video showing her and her sister Ashton by their mom's side in the hospital, doing her hair, holding her hand, and having some ice cream and drinks together. She posted the clip with cancer written over it while a voiceover said, strong women never seen give up. We might need a coffee. We might need a good cry. We might need a day in bed, but we will always come back stronger.

A (46:28)

Now I'm sick from this. Obviously. I blame Alex Earl's dad.

B (46:34)

Okay.

A (46:35)

I just. When I think of this woman and, like, what she's been through in her life and how. How much she's had to put up with for her family, like, and. And for the sake of her children, I'm always in awe. I feel like I'm always referencing, like, how amazing she is and, like, of course, like, she gets cancer. This is. I just blame him.

B (46:50)

Yeah, Yeah. I saw this yesterday. I was like, oh, did I miss something? Because it wasn't like a. Yeah. And now to know that she was diagnosed while Alex was doing Dancing with the Stars. So like a very, like, grueling schedule amidst the breakup with Braxton. Like, Alex is going through it.

A (47:04)

I know.

B (47:04)

So in hindsight, I'm really glad that she had that reprieve in New Year's, like, in just like a fun swirly weekend. She's going through a hard time and.

A (47:11)

Sometimes you just like have to be spotted with Tom Brady to help, like your overall wellness.

B (47:14)

Yeah. Just like get the vibes up. Yeah. So I'm wishing them the best and just really, really sad.

A (47:22)

Very sad. Unexpected. Yeah.

B (47:25)

Are you ready for our next story? Some controversy for Jennifer Lawrence.

A (47:29)

Of course I'm ready. Who I relate to on a very.

B (47:31)

Deep level, shared that she rehomed her dog who bit her child. So Jennifer Lawrence is getting a lot of backlash. Being called awful. After revealing she.

A (47:38)

Not by me, by the way.

B (47:40)

After revealing she re homeed her chihuahua named Princess, pink hippie, long stocking because it bit her son. So she was on a panel and she shared that she looked at her dogs differently after having kids and because one of them bit her.

A (47:57)

Well, what she had said was that like she, before she had kids was an insane dog mom. She's like, I literally moved to 67, the first to be near this dog park. Like, I was obsessed with my dog. Like, nothing could have, you know, torn us apart. And then when she had her first baby, she started to look at the dog, like, very Romeo, like, being like, girl, get out of here. Like, like she just, she's like, my priorities completely changed. And she was like wanting to rehome him. And then the dog bit one of the kids and then it was like a no brainer.

B (48:22)

Yeah.

A (48:22)

I don't know why people are mad at her for this.

B (48:23)

She said, after I had a kid, my dogs became so scary. It's almost like I don't recognize dogs right now. Like, I just see them as a threat. One of them bit my son. And that made me just want to obliterate every dog. I was just like, I'm going to take you out, you, your fucking family and your fudgeing friends. She went on to reveal that the dogs are now staying with her parents. So not even like literally the least.

A (48:40)

Big deal ever, really.

B (48:41)

Home people are so sensitive. I know rehomes, but in general. And I can, I'm very understanding but after a bit like you could want to re home your dog once you have kids and they didn't even bite. Like, it's just like your priorities change.

A (48:56)

And you can't give them.

B (48:57)

Of course.

A (48:57)

And I just want to say giving your dog to live with your parents is not a re home.

B (49:01)

No.

A (49:01)

That's literally what I do half the year. Like Romeo lives with Ben's parents, but. Right.

B (49:06)

So it's like she didn't even need to share this. But I'm honestly glad she did because it's explained closing how crazy some people are. Yeah. About like dog, like, I'm sorry, the dog bit the child.

A (49:13)

Oh, what are we even talking about? The dog bit the child. But even if the dog bit didn't bite the child, normalize the conversations we're having about like some people. Because I was actually talking to Olivia Culpo about this in her DMs about how like literally nothing has changed. Like she loves her dog more than ever. Like her and the baby and the dog are like this beautiful little family.

B (49:28)

Christian too.

A (49:29)

Beautiful family. I'm like, oh, that literally could not be more opposite of my truth. But some people have both experiences. I think if I had had Theo, like I barely know Romeo, you know what I mean? Like, but my OG dog Theo, who unfortunately passed like an untimely death. If he was my dog right now, I would not be having these problems like at all. So some people have like normalized having the conversations about how like sometimes a dog does not fit your life anymore when you have a baby. And that's just really unfortunate. And if you are going to re home your dog, I really have no problem with that. As long as you're taking proper like, don't just give him away. Loosey, juicy apple goosey. Like, like, let's find, let's find a nice home.

B (50:03)

Perhaps a family memberit brought him to like the place where she had originally gotten him from. But do we want to have the conversation? Maybe we don't want to step in it about like the, the original point that she was making about how obsessed she was with her dog and like moving somewhere. No.

A (50:17)

Cuz I think at that point you're just like yucking someone's yams.

B (50:19)

Okay.

A (50:20)

Like you can think your own thoughts.

B (50:22)

Okay.

A (50:23)

But I don't think that that's a universal truth. I think it's just your truth.

B (50:29)

Well, no, it's not universal because other people obviously feel a different way.

A (50:31)

Right?

B (50:31)

Like, do we want to call them out for that feeling? No.

A (50:34)

No. Because I had that feeling.

B (50:36)

Really? Yeah.

A (50:36)

There was, like, a time in my life where, like, the most important thing in my life was my dog.

B (50:41)

I don't remember you ever being a crazy dog person.

A (50:43)

Oh, really?

B (50:44)

And I could think of, like, crazy dog people. Ben.

A (50:47)

Yes.

B (50:48)

But not even. And I. You did not fall into that category, though. You love Theo with your whole heart. Like loving your animal is a normal thing, but, like, revolving your life. Life around them as if they are.

A (50:59)

I don't judge. I actually don't.

B (51:01)

If they are a child for some.

A (51:02)

People, like, the dogs are their children.

B (51:04)

And you either.

A (51:05)

For their whole life, for this period of your life. No, I really. I don't have a problem with it. I don't.

B (51:09)

Oh, okay.

A (51:09)

I mean, I'll talk about you behind.

B (51:10)

Your hack, but, like, I'm not on the podcast. You won't touch it.

A (51:12)

No, I don't feel like alienating people. You know, there's some things I'm, like, willing to die on. Like, I have a feeling that's so strong. Like, I will say it no matter the backlash, no matter the comments. Don't forget to flood the comments with. You both look beautiful today. This is not one of those things. Is it one of those things for you? Because you can talk about it.

B (51:27)

No, but I just think, you know, let's. Let's circle back to that, you know?

A (51:32)

Yeah.

B (51:32)

Think about that.

A (51:33)

Yeah, I just. Like, like, las culturistas are getting canceled right now. Like, let them have their moment. We don't need to have ours.

B (51:38)

Okay. Even though I didn't say anything.

A (51:40)

Yeah, no, we didn't.

B (51:41)

Like, there's nothing that you could even, like, quote, like, you know what I mean?

A (51:45)

Yeah, we just, like, no clip.

B (51:50)

But, yeah, brave for Jennifer Lawrence for sharing this even, because once you say the word re home, it's a trigger.

A (51:57)

Word for, like, the Internet.

B (51:58)

Yeah.

A (52:00)

And one thing about Jennifer Lawrence is, like, she's not going to listen and learn. Like, she said what she said. She's on social media. We're not getting a screens at screenshot. Notes have apology. We're not getting a clarification. Like, the saga ends here.

B (52:09)

I don't think. I don't think anyone can tell her anything. The dog bit her child.

A (52:13)

It's absurd. I can't. But I do feel like a lot of, like, these articles, like, manufactured backlash. Like, is there actually backlash? There's no way a reasonable human being could be upset about.

B (52:20)

You can find backlash for anything, though, if you look hard enough. Right?

A (52:23)

Like, three comments.

B (52:23)

Yeah. If you want to muster it up.

A (52:25)

That's what I mean. They, like, make it for the article.

B (52:26)

Yeah. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story?

A (52:30)

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B (55:48)

Thank you.

A (55:48)

Turd in like, like a genuine pleasure and honor to support today's sponsors and just it reminded me that I have a crazy story to tell you. I forgot to tell you this. So I had to make an appointment. I needed like an air conditioning guy to come to my apartment in New York. And I'm calling and I'm making an appointment with this guy and they asked me questions like the address, what the issue is, yada yada. And I realized about halfway through, I believe leave, I'm on the phone with an AI Chatbot. It was so crazy. I made a full appointment. Like literally no issue was one of the most pleasant conversations I've ever had. I got an email and a text confirmation and the only thing that got wrong was I spelled by last name. O, S, H, R, A, E. I don't give a. They got everything right. My email. They were like, spell your email.

B (56:28)

Did you spell out your name for them and you didn't even have to.

A (56:30)

I think I did. I did do better. It was so crazy. First of all, the voice was so lifelike. But also he wasn't dumb. Like, anytime I've ever been on the phone with a machine, I'm like, operator, operator, represent, representative. Oh my God. It was actually crazy. And that had me shaking in my AI boots, like, for real.

B (56:44)

But that's a good story.

A (56:45)

Yeah.

B (56:45)

Except for, you know, the, the loss of jobs. The loss of jobs, Right. I guess if they were doing an amazing job. No.

A (56:51)

And I feel like telemarketers would be.

B (56:53)

Like, sad that now you're talking to a robot instead. You're happy.

A (56:56)

Yeah. This is where I'm at with AI. Like, if it's improving my quality of life, I have no problem with it.

B (57:01)

Yeah.

A (57:02)

And that's what happened.

B (57:03)

Yeah. Well, I think also where I'm at with AI is like, it will probably, probably be the end of the world as we know it and destroy like the human race. Right. So having said that, enjoy the benefits while we can. That's beautiful. That's where I.

A (57:18)

No, I like that.

B (57:20)

But you know one thing that AI can't do?

A (57:22)

What?

B (57:23)

Make you a loaf of bread.

A (57:24)

But you know who can?

B (57:25)

Taylor Swift. She's gifting her celeb friends her famous homemade sourdough loaves during a night out in la. And I will say regarding Chad and Sourdough sourdough dough, I have used Chat to troubleshoot some of my loaves. Like, what's the perfect amount of cook time and temperature? And they actually don't have it right for my boule. They have it right for my sandwich shape, but not for my boule. They keep burning it.

A (57:44)

I want to say.

B (57:46)

So me as like a sourdough maker. I won't be replaced by AI.

A (57:49)

The one thing that I think might save us from AI is the fact that a lot of these AI bots are low key. So stupid. Like, they're wrong about so much. I now have to like double check stuff. Like when I. When I get the info from Chat. I don't know if that's all bots, if that's chat specifically. I told you that, like Chat sent me to a container store once that had been closed for 10 years. Like, it's. It's not all it's cracked up to be. You have to just sort of, like, double check your sources.

B (58:16)

I agree, but it's getting smarter.

A (58:18)

Yes, it is getting smarter.

B (58:19)

You can learn.

A (58:20)

Yes, but I can learn.

B (58:23)

That's chat.

A (58:24)

Yeah.

B (58:25)

And I feel like I know the things that chat's not going to be good at. Like, I was asking for, like, a specialist in my. My area for something, and then they gave me a bunch of people and I literally looked them up and none of them existed.

A (58:33)

Right.

B (58:33)

I know. That's not what chat is good for.

A (58:35)

Right. It's not Yelp.

B (58:37)

Yeah. So there are other things where I'm like, oh, this is the perfect thing for chat and I to discuss.

A (58:43)

Yeah.

B (58:44)

But anyways, Taylor's friends got some loaves.

A (58:48)

It's so funny. Like, they were all spotted leaving this restaurant. We never would have known Taylor was even in the building if they hadn't walked out with these sort of, like, public display displays of Taylor.

B (58:56)

The. The Amazon to Go bags for sourdough loaves.

A (58:58)

It's interesting. I noticed that as well. She uses the brown PA bags that you also use that you literally got from Amazon. And you would have thought she would have, I don't know, started packaging it, like, a little bit more part. Deliciously.

B (59:08)

Yeah.

A (59:08)

But those bread bags are, like, so ugly, and I feel like they create a lot of condensation, too.

B (59:12)

I feel like when you first need a bread bag, you just search Amazon.

A (59:16)

Yeah.

B (59:16)

And then you realize, wait, I could have gotten one from, like.

A (59:19)

And then you started to get, like, custom stickers.

B (59:20)

But you do have, like, 50 to 100 of these Amazon ones that you need to use.

A (59:25)

I just feel like, like, Taylor, like, with her jet, like, I don't think she really cares about getting rid of, like, 50 papers. Paper bags.

B (59:31)

Well, I'll know if, like, if I don't see 50 of them out in the streets, like, I'll know she was wasteful and I'll tell everyone. Wasteful. Is there anything worse?

A (59:38)

I think, like, people know actually, like, one of the accusations of Taylor that I do find, like, valid, like, she's our raceful queen.

B (59:44)

I don't think she's. I. Of course she takes her jet. Take the debt out of it. Because it's. It's not about waste. Right, right, right.

A (59:49)

No idea.

B (59:50)

She's like, someone who, like, is wasteful, throws away food. Like, let's buy things from the grocery store that she already had at home and then, like, throws it away. Say, she has, like, a trash full of stuff that's, like.

A (60:00)

She doesn't give, like, girl who takes leftovers home, you know?

B (60:04)

I don't know. I don't think she's wasteful.

A (60:06)

Well, I think she has a lot of, like, staff people who do these things for her. So, like, all right, maybe, you know, there's a cake that is not getting eaten. Like, does one of the staff members want to take it home? I think it's actually, like, easy to not be wasteful when you have a lot of staff. Okay. That's just a theory I have about, like, wastefulness.

B (60:24)

Yeah. I just, like, wouldn't, like, count her as, like, a wasteful person. I don't know why. So anyway, she gifted her friends, the Haim sisters and Somber, and I feel somber.

A (60:34)

Like, that was really shocking, that Somber got a loaf.

B (60:37)

Somber. I saw him in a picture.

A (60:39)

So we spoke at him the other day, and we didn't know who he is. He's not a role model, but he sings a song. He sings a song that, you know, ready.

B (60:47)

We talked about him because he was on a.

A (60:49)

Now his song is Somberini. It's not Somber. Is that it?

B (61:06)

I don't know that song, but I enjoyed it.

A (61:08)

That's it. How does it go? Like, okay, the song, back your friends back to how it ends. Is that it?

B (61:19)

So he has one song, and he's at dinner with Taylor Swift.

A (61:22)

Listen, we're so close. Like, we just need a song.

B (61:25)

You have two.

A (61:26)

It's actually. I'm so glad you brought that up. Nobody. Everyone's like, you should write a song. I literally did.

B (61:30)

Yeah. Two.

A (61:31)

Two. Sorry I didn't write them, but, like, I bought them.

B (61:34)

Yeah, they're really good by you.

A (61:36)

Toast one time we gonna have a good time A thousand ends up to the sky we going to get toasted tonight can't let it fade we got a sparkle in our eyes can't let it wait I'm counting down until we start we're renegades we come to play and we play hard ooh 2, 3, 410 we gonna have a good time A thousand hands up to the sky we're gonna get toasted tonight I've been feeling it all day I wanna let it go I wanna lose Connection, control oh, I'm ready to roll and I've been daydreaming about this night For a long time I wanna dance with you on the moonlight A toast to the wild ones A toast to the good life A toast to the lovers it says to you and I A toast to the wild ones.

B (62:33)

To you.

A (62:33)

And I imagine hating us. And we're just, like, sitting here singing my original song, you know? Know, it's insane.

B (62:41)

What a waste of your time.

A (62:42)

The fact that we have so many haters genuinely blows my mind. Genuinely. Like, we're hilarious.

B (62:49)

Do you agree? I do agree. You know what I want to do right now? Sing. I want to hunt it down.

A (62:55)

H. I'm constantly. By the way, you should join me on the weekends. I'm always hunting it down. Hun it down. It's 100 down. Like 100 down. Yeah, but like, I am like a singer, so I say, like her down, you know? Yeah. A lot of people don't know that. Fun fact.

B (63:10)

It's 100 down. 100.

A (63:13)

You just could never.

B (63:15)

And then I think that was an Easter egg for your next song.

A (63:17)

I do. It is high time for me to release another song.

B (63:20)

Hunted was that easter egg for 100.

A (63:22)

Wait. Oh, and then my second song that I sometimes forget, it goes. It was called 100%. And that was like, when we were really in the era of, like, saying 100%.

B (63:31)

Yeah.

A (63:31)

100. Don't let them forget. Go hard till the end. Cause you know that we are 100%. Don't let them forget. Cause you know that we are 100. We keeping it. We keeping it 100. You best believe that. Keeping it. We keeping it 100. Oh, this. The bridge is actually really good. It's, like, kind of moody. After all is said and done. We still got us. We got love. We're one. Oh, no. I'm singing Toast A toast to us, the wild ones. One, two. Never mind. We gonna keep this up. Cause we are 100. Yeah. And you know the producer of both of my songs, actually. Oh, no, sorry. Just a second song. Is the producer of our theme song as well. I gotta get back in the studio with Curtis.

B (64:24)

Have you seen those reels? And I imagine tik toks of like, that guy who's like, pretends he's in the studio and, like, classic are going on.

A (64:32)

That's you. You should recreate one. You should recreate one.

B (64:36)

That's me.

A (64:37)

Yeah, you should do that today. And he's, like, just using, like, I love a lazy Susan.

B (64:43)

I love that guy.

A (64:44)

You are that guy.

B (64:45)

I every time I see one of his videos and he always picks, like, the best part of every song. That's my guy.

A (64:50)

Yeah.

B (64:51)

Are you ready for our fifth? Well, anyway, she made loaves for her friends, as, like, her friends do.

A (64:56)

And I was gonna say it's Kind of like, it's such a status symbol, like that shitty bag from Amazon. It kind of reminds me like when Ariana Grande was giving out her seven rings and it was like, well, who has a ring? And this is just like a ring.

B (65:06)

Yeah, yeah. Cool girls make bread.

A (65:09)

Yeah.

B (65:09)

Yeah. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? Traders recap. Spoiler alerts forthcoming.

A (65:15)

Yeah. So if you. You don't haven't seen all three episodes, this will contain spoilers as to who the traders are who went home. Starting now. Okay, so let's talk about, like, the people they chose for Traders and like, what we think about, like, the. The concept of the show. So I had an idea of what the show was and it is what I thought it was. It reminds me, does anybody ever play that game that's like made by the same people as Quit Blash? It's called the Faker. You remember we played that in the house, like where one person is the faker and like you literally just lie and like say there. And I'm so good at it. It's my favorite game. And this is basically just like an in person version of that. I'm loving it, I have to say. First of all, Ben, is. Is Zach watching with you?

B (65:50)

No. We tried to watch. Started like, I was like, let's start Traders. And neither of us have ever watched it. But Max kept waking up and so I kept waiting for him and then it was already Saturday night and I hadn't started because we were disturbed. So it's like, I have to go it on my own.

A (66:02)

Yeah.

B (66:02)

Sorry.

A (66:02)

Well, he would really like it. Ben's like, enjoying it immensely. He thinks Alan Cummings is so funny.

B (66:07)

Oh, I don't even notice. Me neither.

A (66:09)

And I do think, like, a lot of the theatrics are annoying. Like, I prefer like the juice, the drama. And I was really shocked at who they chose for Traders. Now I don't know what the criteria.

B (66:19)

Yeah.

A (66:20)

And I do think they want to keep people on their toes. People in the house, the audience. And I'm shocked at how amazing of a traitor I think Lisa Rinna is. And I do think this show will end up being very good for her because I've been like a very vocal, like, Lisa hater. Like, I wasn't a fan of her on Housewives Wives. I was like, ready for her to go. And I think she's been amazing. I think she's such a good trader. She's been so low key. Like, she.

B (66:42)

But I think that's suspicious. The best one of The Traders is, well, yes. Candace, like, is awful. I wish that she wasn't a traitor because we're getting so much Candace and she's, like, so high on her horse. And she's, like, not my favorite housewife by any means, because I'm still team Monique. So, like, for me, that just is not going to work. I think Rob is great. I don't know him from Love Island. I didn't watch his season, but he does seem, like, kind of dumb as a doorknob and very unsuspecting. And he is a good game player. He's not very dumb, but he really, like, plays it. You don't notice him. Like, I feel like Rinna's kind of an obvious choice because she is an actress. I'm surprised that they picked her because she's so traitory. Just who she as a person.

A (67:22)

Yeah.

B (67:23)

For the same way they thought that Donna was a traitor because she's such an obvious choice. Because she's not obvious. Yeah, no, no, because she's, like, sweet old lady. So it's like, oh, you'd be a great trader because we would never assume you. And the same way that that's an obvious choice. I think Rin is an obvious choice because it's like, of course you're a trader.

A (67:37)

So I have so many thoughts about Donna being selected as a trader and this whole concept of secret trader, which is a new phenomenon. I don't like it over tg. Yeah. And Donna was never going to be a good trader. It was actually a really bad choice. And I think, like, catching a trader in the second or third episode is not good. Good. Like, I was shocked. And the thing is, I feel like you really have to be there, like, feel the vibes. Because everybody was like, Donna, it was unanimous. And I'm like, what did she do besides not talk to you guys?

B (68:02)

Literally? Like, what is she different than, like, Tara, who's like Tara Randa?

A (68:07)

Donna must have been so obvious. Like, I don't know what the she was doing. I also saw theories online saying that she didn't participate in some of the challenges due to, like, the physical elements of it. And she is this older woman, which would have given people, like, a lot of suspicions about her, because I feel like there's something not being said about Donna. What was so obvious? I was actually feeling defensive of her. I was like, she doesn't know you guys. And she's like, why would the. Would she be up your ass chatting? She's just this, like, sweet old lady. So I was like, you guys are wrong. I thought for sure Colton was the secret traitor.

B (68:36)

I thought Colton was a something. He's playing this game very well. I think he's one of, like, the smartest game players aside from, like, the gamers who I don't know. Even though, like, Tiffany seems really smart and, like, a really good gamer, but she's so climbing up the wrong tree with Michael. Like, it's crazy. She's so misguided. She's like, it's Michael. She named three people, and it's none of those people.

A (68:55)

Well, everyone. And so the thing is, is, like, you can be really smart on the show, but why Colton, I think is going to go far is nobody knows he's smart. We know in his confessionals, like, oh. I'm like, that's actually a really good way of thinking. And he's not there yet, but his thought process is. Right. We have to look past the fact that he's, like, a crazy person who stalked his ex girlfriend. It's actually insane that he's on this show and being given this platform. So I'm just gonna, like, try and exist in a vacuum where that didn't happen. I do think he's playing really well.

B (69:17)

Most of the people who come on the show, a lot of them are, like, former reality tv, like, villains, whatever, who have, like, a history of. Even Sandoval was on it last season. Like, I do think you just sort of have to.

A (69:26)

Okay. But, like, everyone. You just, like. None of it comes close to, like, like, breaking the law and, like, being a stalker. Miriam Webster defines stalker.

B (69:34)

What? Jesse Smollett's on Special Forces.

A (69:36)

It's true. I forgot about Jesse Smellett. Yeah, that's a good comparison I want.

B (69:40)

To talk about with my issue with the show. It kind of is like, may the dumbest person win, because if you are smart, you are automatically eliminated for being smart. So we're not having this like that.

A (69:50)

I mean, the fact that Rob knew there was a murder in plain sight.

B (69:53)

Saying he's like, wait, you started the conga. If only he had the opportunity to tell one person.

A (69:57)

If you ever needed proof as to why Candace is a terrible traitor was the conga line. It was so obvious, so stupid. Like, you. That was your quickest way to get everybody in one room. Like, so dumb. You should have been like, guys, I want to talk about something. And, like, make an act of accusation.

B (70:11)

And she's messed up a couple times but gotten away with it. Portia able to smooth it over. Portia with Michael Rapaport and Like, I'm annoyed at Maura because she's the only one who knows the truth, and she didn't remember. She wasn't even listening.

A (70:23)

Okay, but I ship more on Rob.

B (70:24)

I More and Rob. I wonder if they'll come to that conclusion themselves. They're both from Love Island. I love More on love.

A (70:29)

She was at the Golden Globe. She looked sick.

B (70:31)

Yeah, she does, like, a lot of TV work. She's best friends with Molly Mae. She's from her season. She was, like, the best one on her season. Like, personality out up the wazoo. We're not seeing a lot of it on the show yet, but there's.

A (70:41)

There's so many people, you know who's like, actually really being just, like, dumb and is pissing me off. And this is gonna, like, offend you personally.

B (70:49)

Caroline Timmer.

A (70:50)

Yeah, she stinks.

B (70:50)

What did she do wrong? She loves and she stinks.

A (70:54)

Like, everything she says, like, you're wrong.

B (70:55)

She's just, like, not giving that much. She's not really participating yet. But I love her jacket that she keeps wearing, her little puffer.

A (71:02)

I want to talk about Michael Rapaport, who is, like, probably the most polarized, talked about person I saw. Before I even started, I saw so much hate for my Michael, and I was like, oh, God, what did he do? And then I saw this New York magazine article. Is Michael Rapaport ruining traders with this, like, scathing. That was the. The headline and then this scathing article. I was so looking forward to finding out what he did when I tell you, I have no idea what you guys are talking about. First of all, he was cracking me up, and I kind of did think Jam Jam was a traitor. Like, if you're a trader and you know it, clap your hands. I'm sorry. He's this, like, eccentric personality. Maybe he's not for everyone. I have no idea, like, what people are referring to when they say he's ruining the show.

B (71:37)

Show. The people who read that article, like, obviously just don't like him because he's a Zionist. Jewish and Zionist and wearing a big Jewish star. Yeah, I think he's hysterical. I was ready to be like, Michael Rapper. I don't really know him from that much other than social media, so I've not, like, seen him in his element. He's so funny. I love that he doesn't, like, back down from confrontation. Like other people. They don't want to be in confrontation. They, like. Everyone on these shows has huge personalities. Like, you don't want to be, like, read to fill by anyone. Everyone's just like, sort of hiding. No one is putting themselves out there. I think he. He's being so funny and also being brave. Everyone is just. That's what's the problem with the show. Everyone.

A (72:10)

It's herd mentality.

B (72:11)

Everyone who is quiet skates by until the end. May the dumbest, most quiet person win. Because, like, the people who are actually putting themselves out there to say, I think it's this person, and then say it's not that person. Well, all of a sudden it's you. Like Ron, like, Ron just really tried to put something together.

A (72:25)

I have such an issue with people hating Ron and now thinking this is where it's like, you're obviously not a smart, smart person because how you could think Ron acted in any sort of malice when he just came to the tables, like, this is the evidence that I have. He obviously doesn't know Portia, who said that she just, like, says stuff and she speaks wrong and. But she's.

B (72:42)

What bothered me is the same way Portia said we sent Ian home, which, by the way, Michael, you did send Ian home because you. Someone put this team put the casket in his grave, like, and we got Ian sent home. Sure. Michael said it at the table so you could see how this slip up would happen.

A (72:54)

Yeah.

B (72:54)

And to think that, like, Donna, Michael and Ian, who are each like, sort of taking the same side right now, that they're all the traitors because they're saying the same thing. You think that the traitors would be so stupid as to, like, publicly at the round table, team up and say, here we are. Like, they're just. They're playing checkers when the. It's a game of chess.

A (73:12)

Justice for Ron. He had me fully convinced because. And I like that, you know, if you're still there. No, of course. But if you're going to make an accusation, like, proof is paramount. And that's what I was saying with Donna. Nobody had proof other than the fact that she wasn't talking about, like, it was just vibes, which I guess if you're there in person. And clearly they were right. But Ron came to the table with, like, straight up facts. I appreciate, like, the, the clarity in which the accusation was made. And okay, they were wrong. That's okay.

B (73:39)

Yeah. If he knew Portia for one second, like, I never thought she would have been, like, seriously the world if. If what she was doing was because she was a traitor, she would be the world's worst traitor. So I don't think it was her, but he could Have. He could have just not said anything and not put a target on his back. So it's like people who are putting themselves out there who are trying to play the game, like Michael, are being penalized. And so we're going to wind up with just, like, a bunch of Stephen Coletti's.

A (74:03)

Oh, okay. Yeah, you're right. There's way too many people on this show. Although I do appreciate that in the first three episodes, like, four people have already gotten home. Like, they're moving quickly. There are far too many people, like, and even there are people who I think are good and have big personalities are just falling through the cracks. Mark bad, Dallas, like, oh, and also there are a couple of people who. And I literally talk pop culture for a living, whom I've never seen in my life. Eric the songwriter. Even Ron, I like him. Where the hell is Ron?

B (74:25)

I agree. Eric the songwriter is random. I obviously don't know the gamers, but it's almost unfair to have them in the show because they're always going to be target first because people know that they're smart. So it's like, the best person to win the show is someone who, like, seems dumb but isn't. And, like, you play that, that's really.

A (74:40)

The only way to win.

B (74:41)

That's why I think Rob is good at the game. That's why I think Gabby Wendy won her season. I could. I could see now why you wouldn't, like, suspect her of being a mastermind, but she's actually really brilliant.

A (74:52)

Yeah, I'm enjoying it so much. Like, I. And I'm now, like, learning, like, you know, some more behind the scenes. They don't live in the castle. They stay at a hotel.

B (75:00)

That makes sense. I mean, everyone has glam.

A (75:02)

So I was also wondering, are they getting full glam?

B (75:03)

For sure. They're on tv. They're, you know, TV stars. I don't think they're gonna just, like, roll out of bed and show up to tv. And I like that because I'm watching a television show.

A (75:11)

Yeah.

B (75:11)

Produce it.

A (75:12)

Look beautiful, please.

B (75:13)

Yeah, so I'm fine with that. And they are all, like, you know, the biggest stars in. In their own lives. Like, they're not, like, bunking up.

A (75:22)

If the traitors do get found out, it will be because of Candace. The thing about Candace and I feel like this is the most dangerous combination of person. Like, someone who really thinks that they're smart and is not. Yeah, she is so obvious. Like, how no one is onto her is insane. The conga line thing, would I Would have been like, girl, it's you.

B (75:37)

Yeah.

A (75:37)

And how nobody thought that was weird.

B (75:39)

Why no one followed up on the lie. Especially after Portia found out to be a fake. Faithful. It's right. So where did this communication originate in this conversation? Lied. The person who you thought was lying turned out to be a truth teller. So let's look at the other person. I feel like there are a couple of threads of things that have happened that people are, like, following up on. Like Michael and Jam. Jam. You're following up on the wrong thing.

A (76:00)

Yeah, yeah.

B (76:01)

And the people who are there, like, who are the smart ones? Like Tiffany. I feel like her game theory is really spot on, but she has just completely taken it down the wrong path and she's gonna end up nowhere.

A (76:09)

Yeah. I feel like she's, like, in love with Michael. Like, she's so blinded by him.

B (76:12)

Just say you like Michael and you totally with him.

A (76:14)

No, I, I. Did you see Michael eating the spaghetti? Yeah, that was insane.

B (76:18)

I didn't like, clock it, but yeah.

A (76:20)

Oh, I. And they literally, they must have known, like, they stayed on him for like, four bites. It was shocking. He is so funny. I'm sorry, you're not gonna get me to hate Michael. He's funny. He's adding, like.

B (76:29)

And I was like, ready to. Cuz I was like, oh, he's the loudmouth.

A (76:32)

Annoying.

B (76:32)

And then I watch everything and I'm like, he's trying to play this game. He's being funny and he's being brash and not just being scared of being sent home and not being on. On tv.

A (76:40)

Yeah. No, there's so many people, like, seriously, Stephen Coletty, what are you doing there?

B (76:44)

Even cloudy. But every time he does speak, I'm like, you're kind of a P jump. The fact that he would have been a good trader, he wouldn't. He, to me, is the same as Rob. Like.

A (76:51)

Yeah, just unassuming.

B (76:53)

Unassuming. Rob, I think, is playing it well. Stephen, when he, like, wouldn't take the seat because he was like, my mom raised me. I would never, like, make a woman.

A (76:59)

Right. And he's still on tv, so, like, he's like, still being watched. Like you. Like, there's so many elements at play. Like, you want to be good faithful, you want to be good trader, but you're also on tv.

B (77:07)

Wants to be a good person.

A (77:08)

Yeah, yeah. No, I have no problem with him personally. There's just too many people on the show.

B (77:11)

No, I'm just saying, like. Yeah, but I actually, I don't mind. He's not someone that I mind. I don't really mind anyone, but I'm just, like, this idea that, like, only the people who really middle line it and who go, like, unnoticed are going to go far till the end, because the people who are really playing the game are going to get eliminated. Not my favorite kind of game because I like games of skill, and I feel like the more skill you have, the quicker you are to be eliminated.

A (77:32)

That challenge where they were. Oh, okay. Another person falls through the cracks. Johnny Ware. It's just not working.

B (77:40)

Yeah. Even though, like, and him and Tara have this, like, big plan to, like, team up at the end.

A (77:43)

Yikes. They win.

B (77:47)

We'll be eating our words. I'm.

A (77:49)

I'm really curious. I'm. I'm having fun. I just want to say I'm really having fun. And I'm like, oh, and also, we've tell me lies this week.

B (77:54)

It took me a minute. But what's also crazy is, like, it's unconfirmed if this is going to be a good season. Do you know what I mean? That's kind of like how we watch Love Island.

A (78:01)

I just said that this morning, and.

B (78:02)

People are trying to shoehorn it. Like, it was amazing. It. It was not. But the season before was amazing, and we missed that one. The season before this one was apparently amazing, and we didn't watch it, but so it's like, oh, maybe I'll go and watch that if this doesn't turn out to be what I think it's going to be.

A (78:14)

Yeah. And I. I really. I like that they're expanding. I feel like a lot of these shows, like Dancing with the Stars and what's the show, Jesse? Special Forces. I really think that they're expanding, like, their net in terms of who they're casting, and we're ending up with some great moments. And so I think they should continue to. And maybe that's what, like, Eric was. And you can win them all, obviously, but, like, the. The wider net, the more people throw some podcasters in there, get, like, I.

B (78:37)

Do think, well, of course it had me thinking, like, could I ever do the show? Would I be good at the show? And I don't think that I would be. So I'm not gonna nominate myself.

A (78:45)

I think I would be amazing. It's literally that game, the Faker.

B (78:48)

Oh, and because you love lying, you have to watch out because you always look up when you do.

A (78:52)

So true.

B (78:53)

Yeah. I would love for them to have, like, a Mentalist on the show.

A (78:56)

Oh, did you see? Oh, by the way, that's so funny. Oz Perlman. I literally thought the same thing because he was just on Ben's podcast. Podcast. But also. Yes.

B (79:02)

Oh, my God.

A (79:03)

It was a really big deal.

B (79:04)

Fascinating to me.

A (79:05)

Did you also see that they're casting for regular, kind of like celebrity Big Brother? It'll be like, celebrity traders and regular.

B (79:13)

You're not calling me regular, are you?

A (79:14)

No, no. I was just sharing facts.

B (79:16)

Like, this is the biggest.

A (79:16)

You would be a celebrity, of course. Cast Jackie, Right?

B (79:20)

No, no, but I'm saying it'd be.

A (79:21)

Crazy if they casted, like, two people together, like a duo, like the Chrisley or something. And, like, one was a traitor and one wasn't. You think that they could tell? They would? No.

B (79:29)

Well, if they could, they could trust each other implicitly. They could work together.

A (79:33)

Right.

B (79:34)

And would that be a good thing?

A (79:35)

Yeah. But until a certain point, because either the Traders win or the Faithfuls win.

B (79:40)

Got it. Oh, interesting. I would like. I would want to be on the same team as you, obviously.

A (79:44)

Like, don't cast us if you can't put us at both as traitors or Faithfuls.

B (79:47)

Yeah. What would you rather be?

A (79:49)

Traitor.

B (79:49)

Traders get more screen time.

A (79:51)

That's what Candace was saying, and I was like, I appreciate her honesty, but.

B (79:53)

It'S a lot of pressure. Like when they had to murder in plain sight.

A (79:56)

Like, the anxiety the Faithful gets just sit around on their arms. It's so true. Resting on their laurels.

B (80:03)

Yeah. They don't even know how good they are.

A (80:05)

I guess. I guess what's, like, fueling them is that they don't want to be sent home.

B (80:09)

The Faithful.

A (80:09)

Yeah.

B (80:09)

So but in order to not be sent home, all you have to do is sit around. S'.

A (80:12)

More. Yeah. Which I could do.

B (80:14)

Yeah. Any other thoughts? No. I'm just really bad for Donna. I'm shocked that they made her.

A (80:21)

Oh.

B (80:21)

What also bothers me about the show is that the entire format of the show is big, based on producers. Like, who's going to be a Traders? Because producers choose. Right. So it's like, what is the criteria for. It's not earned. Really.

A (80:33)

No. I do feel like at this point, it's random because if you do what you. They did in years past, you would try and find, like, the Dolores.

B (80:38)

But I think Dolores, a Trader.

A (80:39)

I don't remember, but, I mean, I don't know. But I think that they really try to switch it up.

B (80:44)

But it's like, on the one hand, Lisa, Rinna, and Donna are like, the two most obvious traders because Donna Is like you want to put her in your shoes show she has this great cover. Even though now watching all of her scenes back, all she had to say was I'm such a big fan of everyone. Like that.

A (80:58)

No, in hindsight it's so obvious. In hindsight it's so obvious.

B (81:02)

And then Lisa Rinna, also actress, you know, villain will they should not have.

A (81:06)

Made Donna a traitor, secret or otherwise.

B (81:09)

And then also making her a secret shader was so unfair because it's so isolating for her.

A (81:12)

And it's this new thing.

B (81:13)

I think she already felt probably isolated. She's the only one who's coming on is not not part of like a pack as a housewife or a gamer like with a community. And she's like alone. And then she's a traitor.

A (81:23)

But alone.

B (81:23)

At least the traders like have each other. That was not fair.

A (81:26)

You know what? I am looking forward to like murdering face to face. Like, I do think whoever gets murdered is going to be shocked.

B (81:33)

Oh, so it ended on a cliffhanger. Who do you think will be murdered between Caroline Stanberry.

A (81:37)

They had good reasonings.

B (81:39)

Kristen.

A (81:40)

Yeah, I think it'll be someone random.

B (81:41)

I don't like how in their, you know, what do they call it up.

A (81:45)

At the top with the B.

B (81:47)

They only the turret. The turret talk about the reasons why they should murder someone. They never say why they shouldn't murder someone. So I really think it's between Eric and Kristen. I think if they murder they're like Rob would be good because it's random. No, if you murder Rob, then Ron. Ron, sorry. Then you will know that everyone who was like around, like who said the same things as him like Michael are also not traitors and that gives them people too many clues. So say that. Don't say it would be good because it's random. It wouldn't be good period. Period.

A (82:15)

Yeah. And I do think like the whole housewives protecting housewives. Like they should take out Caroline because then it kind of.

B (82:21)

I think they should take out Kristen.

A (82:23)

Because she's so random or because she's.

B (82:25)

Smart and like she's smart and she's not like being entertaining on my show.

A (82:28)

Oh well, that's the other thing. Girl, get off my screen.

B (82:30)

Like so Kristen or tears Eric. But taking out Eric doesn't do anything for them.

A (82:37)

Yeah.

B (82:38)

Ron.

A (82:39)

Eric is the type of person who would win because he's so boring.

B (82:41)

If they save Ron, it really makes him look like a traitor.

A (82:44)

Yeah.

B (82:45)

That's another faithful because he's already been.

A (82:47)

Yeah.

B (82:47)

Will not kill Ron. Thankfully for me. But, like, say that in the turret. Don't say it's random. It's good.

A (82:54)

Yeah. Yeah.

B (82:55)

No, it's not. Unless, like, am I playing the game better than everyone?

A (82:58)

Maybe you would be good.

B (82:59)

I don't.

A (83:00)

She doesn't like games. Cast me instead.

B (83:02)

Cast Claudia in Traders.

A (83:05)

Yeah. And you can use my original music. You can license it for free. How about that?

B (83:08)

Would you do Traders?

A (83:11)

Yeah.

B (83:11)

The Scottish countryside is beautiful this time of year. Yeah.

A (83:15)

Yeah. The show's huge. And that's the other thing I think people realize, like, they saw it literally made a star out of so many people last season. Like Dylan, Efron, Gabby, Wendy. And I think people also are like, that's. Maybe you think like a little Michael Rappaport too. Like you're trying to make an impression. Like, this is almost like an audition.

B (83:29)

Yeah. The thing about Michael Rapport, and you could say that about anyone, What I like about Michael Rappaport is you actually can say that about him. He can't help but be himself.

A (83:35)

Yeah. Yeah.

B (83:36)

He's not putting on, like, he can't. If he can, could. He would sit back and shut up.

A (83:40)

Yeah.

B (83:40)

But he can't.

A (83:41)

Yeah.

B (83:41)

Yeah. And that's interesting to watch. And it's very authentic.

A (83:44)

Yes. And that. It is the year of authenticity, you guys. That is our show. That's our Traders recap. We'll be recapping Traders probably every Friday, right? It's one episode. Yeah, yeah.

B (83:54)

And Fridays feel like a good time.

A (83:56)

Love that.

B (83:56)

Unless we can get screeners, then we can recap it on Thursdays.

A (84:00)

No, but then the people haven't seen it yet.

B (84:01)

I know, but that's what, like, people do.

A (84:03)

No, no. It's not like you literally can't. Unless you release your episode at 10pm you. You can't. You're spoiling it.

B (84:08)

Spoiling.

A (84:09)

You can't.

B (84:09)

I don't want to spoil.

A (84:10)

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