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Claudia Oshry
Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast.
Jackie Oshry
It's Jackson Claude and we're your host.
Claudia Oshry
It's your favorite show, the Fast 5 things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the Toast.
Jackie Oshry
I sound amazing.
Claudia Oshry
Welcome back to the toast. Yeah, that's right. It's your ass turd. Your bitch ass turd bat. Hey, Jax, how you darn.
Jackie Oshry
Hey, ass turd bat.
Claudia Oshry
Thank you, Bat. I like that we're both wearing duty green today because clearly we both packed all of our summer wears. This is our last episode.
Jackie Oshry
I'm wearing duty green with the side of duty brown.
Claudia Oshry
Oh, by the way, same.
Jackie Oshry
Oh, and I did put a little, like, flare in my shoes just to switch things up and keep things unexpected. No, actually, all of my party maternity wares are at the tailor right now. Like, I do.
Claudia Oshry
I totally forgot you were pregnant.
Jackie Oshry
I know.
Claudia Oshry
I mean, I look so much going on in my life.
Jackie Oshry
Imagine how I feel every night and then like at the end of the day, I'm like, having to rub my belly. Like, girl, you've just got to focus on this for a second.
Claudia Oshry
I wanted to tell you I had a dream that you were having twins and it was like so vivid. This happened last night, so do with that information what you will. Maybe you want to go to the doctor.
Jackie Oshry
Wait, what was your dream? You cut out. Sorry.
Claudia Oshry
Oh, that you were having twins.
Jackie Oshry
Oh, that's so funny. No, I would love to be having twins. Trust and believe.
Claudia Oshry
I understand.
Jackie Oshry
So if that is the truth for me, like, I will be thrilled about it. I don't want to get my hopes up though. But thank you for thinking so highly of me.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah, I've heard of people at, like their 25 week appointment finding out there was actually a second baby behind the first one this whole time.
Jackie Oshry
Well, tbd, I guess. Anything could happen.
Claudia Oshry
Anything could happen. Yes. If you're watching on YouTube, Jack and I are both wearing duty green because.
Jackie Oshry
We packed all of our party wears. And my other party wears are at the tailor, so they could be extra part delicious and, like, maybe look nice even though I'm not gonna be looking like my nicest this summer.
Claudia Oshry
Right. We're headed off on our big summer trip. Today's our last episode before summer break, so obviously I had to pull out my winter wares. This is actually a maternity set. I could send you an Amazon link if you'd like. So we're looking Judy Green on the outside, but face and hair. Like, face card never declines.
Jackie Oshry
No. And on the inside, like we're feeling bright yellow.
Claudia Oshry
Yes. So this is my first show. Like, you know, Jackson Friends is over. Teddy's back for one day. Now let's take a look at Jackson Friends. At a glance, I want to ask you, who was your favorite?
Jackie Oshry
Oh, wow, that is really so hard. No one, like, immediately comes to mind, of course. Like, my most recent shows are top of mind, but there were so many. Honestly, like, they were all my favorite. It would be easier to choose, like, least favorite, which I wouldn't do, but. But that would still be hard.
Claudia Oshry
Give us your least favorite sachet.
Jackie Oshry
No. I'm kidding.
Claudia Oshry
No. That's the only safe answer we could never say. Even if you hated someone so bad they did you such a favor.
Jackie Oshry
Like, there was not one person that I hated or disliked or even had, like, a bad rapport with. Like, it was really, like, I don't know how many shows I did. Like, 30 out of 30. I made so many new friends. I connected with so many people. We had, like, so many different conversations. It was really Jackson Wonderland, and I really felt like I got to harness my inner podcast or like, of course we podcast, but we really just swirl around here. But I was really podcasting all month, getting in the weeds, and it was a really a grand old time.
Claudia Oshry
If you want to ask me who my favorite was, it was obviously the Costco guys. Sorry, the Costco guy.
Jackie Oshry
We have to talk about the Costco guy. AJ Big justice, like, just, I guess didn't want to come. I kept making excuses for him. Like, Big justice is in school. Big justice isn't Cam. He's like, no, he's not.
Claudia Oshry
Big justice is 12 big justice. But I feel like. And you know how I feel about, like, kids on the Internet. I got the vibe and I listened to the whole interview and I have such positive things to say. I got the vibe that, like, they really want him to maintain, like, somewhat of a normal life. So, like, this opportunity came up, but it's summer break, so, like, it 8. I keep. I keep getting the confused, which one's.
Jackie Oshry
Justice and which one's justice is the kid?
Claudia Oshry
Like, justice isn't coming on the toast. It's summer break, he's playing baseball, and he has his Pokemon cards. Like, and as. As he should as a normal 12.
Jackie Oshry
Year old, you know, 1,000%, both on the show and off the show. I got the warmest impression from their family. It was Mama justice and AJ who came to the studio.
Claudia Oshry
I don't believe you met Mama Justice.
Jackie Oshry
Like, I don't even know I met Her a year ago at Costco.
Claudia Oshry
Was Mama justice with them when you met them?
Jackie Oshry
Yes. And she remembered meeting us, which I was, like, so impressed by, because we didn't meet as, like, two influencers. They were the celebrities and we were the sorry people. So I was genuinely shocked. Like, I don't know why she remembered meeting us, because she had no reason to, but I was, like, so flattered that she did.
Claudia Oshry
Maybe you left an impression, Like, a swirly impression, perhaps.
Jackie Oshry
They were just, like. They really put family first. They had their heads on their shoulders. Like, I got such a good vibe from them. I really enjoyed meeting them.
Claudia Oshry
Me too. Like, the takeaway for me from the episode, I got, like. I got, like, a little choked up at the end because obviously, like, what they do is, like, silly and fun or whatever. But when he was just talking about how he, like, went from being, you know, selling mortgages and he just didn't feel like himself, you know, he was. He takes his role as a provider really seriously. So he was happy to provide and give a nice life for his family, but he wasn't being creative. He wasn't being himself. He wasn't, like, he wasn't happy at his job. And just to see somebody, like, fulfill their dreams, like, I'm obsessed. Like, that's my fucking king right there.
Jackie Oshry
No, I agree. And once we get that boom truck out on the road, I better fucking see it.
Claudia Oshry
It's over for these bitches.
Jackie Oshry
It's over. So that was a real cherry on top. Last week was actually really buzzy. Like, we had Dragon, Julia, Natalie, my new best friend Natalie.
Claudia Oshry
Like, so many.
Jackie Oshry
Liz P. Who was already my best friend.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah.
Jackie Oshry
So I just got to see my best friend. But I have so many new best friends. Like, so many inside jokes. Like, I'm on cast amigo. Like, bmr.
Claudia Oshry
And I know that you don't know this, but you did, like, a lot of Love island content. And we, of course, clipped it because it's so buzzy and you don't know. But, like, you actually went viral on Tik Tok a couple of times because for the first time ever, I feel like whenever we're recapping a show, like, we always have the unpopular opinion. Like, everybody on the Internet disagrees with us, which is so annoying. Like, how is that possible? We're so smart. But this time around, like, you and your hard truths, that kind of your big sister energy or was welcome on TikTok, like, people were really appreciative and agreeing with you.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah, it's true. They Need a big sister out there on that island, and it's supposed to be Alandria, but she can't get her house in order. I will say, after last night's episode and reading the tweets, I do think this is the first time I have strongly disagreed with what the fans are saying, public, in regards to Shelly and Huda. They are saying that Shelly has no right to be mad about the challenge.
Claudia Oshry
That's not what I saw. Everyone's pretty much in agreement that whatever was done was cut out. That's how inappropriate was. Because you see Huda just getting. Getting her ass off of Ace's face. We didn't see her get on. It's, like, pretty much agreed upon that. Like, we missed something that they cut. For whatever reason, people think producers interfered and, like, paused it.
Jackie Oshry
Interesting. Well, because even Pepe.
Claudia Oshry
Oh, because even Pepe was, like, that was, you know, not. That was too much for a challenge. Even Pepe, my silent king.
Jackie Oshry
Oh, yeah. Claude is in love with Pepe. That's what you guys missed.
Claudia Oshry
And by the way, anyone who's not and anyone who's sleeping on Pepe, like, that says more about you than it does me. Like, let me tell you, that's my unproblematic king. And I ship him and Andrina, like, of course, she's just. She's just sort of like, the flavor of the moment. Like, Andrina and, like, they're both Latin. You know what that means to me?
Jackie Oshry
Like, if that's a winning couple, that.
Claudia Oshry
That's a winning couple. And I'm so sick of Pepe getting cut out of the show. Like, seriously, people forget he's there. And I understand he's. They actually go out of his way to show him, like, not even a whole episode.
Jackie Oshry
Oh, the episode's running long. Cut. Pepe.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah, he's the first to go.
Jackie Oshry
Let's not find out why he coupled up with Grayson.
Claudia Oshry
And he's so hot. I'm sorry. Like, he's so good looking. He has such a genuine smile, and he actually talks like a human being, like an adult. I love him.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. Well, I want to be on your algorithm because I saw people, like, saying Hooda did nothing wrong. Like, this is a challenge. It's challenge behavior. Shelly, like, pulled Chris a million times. That's Huda's partner. It's so different. I'm so Team Shelley. And even if there wasn't something egregious that was cut out, just, like, the timing, she clearly, like, went for her big one with her best friends, man. That's her boyfriend. Chris is.
Claudia Oshry
Nobody did that, by the way. Nobody did that with Nick. Like, none of Sierra's friends did that. I get what Sierra saying.
Jackie Oshry
And nobody did that with Taylor or because Alandria loves him. So she was wrong for choosing Ace for that moment. And then I think she did the most.
Claudia Oshry
Now we'll do an official recap. We will do an official recap. But I just want to say one thing, because I have, like, sort of been in Olandria an apologist and fan since day one, and I do believe I officially need to step back from that role because I really can't endorse someone. Like, I always thought it was weird that she liked Taylor. Like, to me, there's what's to like? You know? And now he's actually betrayed her, and she's still, like, trying to get him back. And, like, for that, I'm gonna have to take a step back. Like, it's important to know your worth. It is.
Jackie Oshry
It's important to go home and call Jalen.
Claudia Oshry
It's important to go home and call.
Jackie Oshry
Jalen because Jalen's doing big stuff now.
Claudia Oshry
Jalen was the first Islander to reach a million Tick Tock followers, even though he was literally there for four seconds. We think Pepe gets no airtime. Have you met Jalen?
Jackie Oshry
Who has the most Tick Tock followers after Jalen?
Claudia Oshry
I saw this statistic, like, a chart.
Jackie Oshry
Because I don't like looking at their social medias. Like, it makes me sad. Yeah.
Claudia Oshry
No. And the people they left behind, so pretty much everyone, like, assigned. And if, honestly, if it was me, I was going on Love Island, I would give you my login, of course. And there are people like sisters, friends running the social media because I'm like, oh, how is Sierra posting? Whatever. And people are, like, kind of loving Amaya because she's the only person who didn't leave someone in charge of her social media. So it's like, she's clearly not thirsty. She's actually here for love in a genuine way.
Jackie Oshry
Wait, I seriously love that. Because when I go on to these people's social media, if I do, I want to see what they were doing before the show. I don't want to see their sister friend saying, vote for so and so. It's no.
Claudia Oshry
And, like, they all have. They put like a. Like, a twist in, like, an attitude in the caption. It's like, shut up. We did. We don't know you.
Jackie Oshry
I'm watching the show. I don't need you to recap for me. I want to see what they were doing before the show. That is a point for Amaya.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah.
Jackie Oshry
Because I really like. Stop it.
Claudia Oshry
Statistically, I think it's Ace and Huda that have the most followers, but they came on. They came on with the most followers. So I think in terms of growth, obviously, obviously, Jalen has grown the top. Whatever. So has Sierra. She was an influencer before, but, like, very micro.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah.
Claudia Oshry
And you could tell she's an influencer. Like, I find myself being influenced by her. I'm like, she's so good at her makeup. She's so good at her hair. She's so good at getting dressed. Like, she really is, like, influential.
Jackie Oshry
What I like about her and some of the other girls, but I notice it most with her is, like, the way she dresses is very original. I feel like most people just, like, get an outfit from Revolver, shout out, revolve love or fashion over whatever. They just, like, wear the dress that. But, like, she really has style. She has her own personal style. I like that.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. Okay, let's pause because we are gonna do, like, a big liusa recap at the end of today's episode. We have the Fast 5, and we're also gonna do a little bit of a challenge in the spirit of Love Island. Jackie and I are going to be making out with each other. No kidding. We. So we were getting on the show today, and it's kind of, like, awkward. I'm like, well, are you doing the ads? Like, am I doing the ads?
Jackie Oshry
Oh, that's the challenge. Yes.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. We just didn't know how to split it, and so we just said, okay, you know what? Let's split it. Jackie, you can do the first down the middle. Right down the middle.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. I'll do the first ad break. Okay. Coaches will do the second one. Keep it fresh. You have to the ads to find.
Claudia Oshry
Out who did better, and you have to see if we can keep it to a tight 4 minutes and 30 seconds.
Jackie Oshry
We'll see.
Claudia Oshry
It's a competition.
Jackie Oshry
Let's see, though, if the passion breaks the clock now.
Claudia Oshry
I'm so excited to be back because I have a lot of thoughts on the Bezos wedding. And of course, they're different than everybody else's. And I'm excited, excited that that's a topic of discussion today.
Jackie Oshry
A big one, because the weekend, the reception, the vogue, everything.
Claudia Oshry
Physically, I am, of course, in New York, but mentally, I was in Vinici all weekend long.
Jackie Oshry
Were you in Viniti? I didn't find myself stopping over in the Nietzsche, despite how Much. Just Jared wanted me to know.
Claudia Oshry
I loved it. Like, Venice does a good job of, like, always getting paparazzi pictures of celebrities as they get on their water taxis. And this weekend was no different. And I just have a lot of thoughts. And we have, like, long been kind of advocates of. What's her name? Nicole. Always call her Nicole.
Jackie Oshry
Still, I know Lauren.
Claudia Oshry
She looks so much like a Nicole. Do you guys agree?
Jackie Oshry
Lauren and Nicole are of a similar elk.
Claudia Oshry
And is her middle name Nicole, or am I just, like, pulling that name out of my ass?
Jackie Oshry
Well, her new middle name is Sanchez.
Claudia Oshry
But it's not Lauren Nicole Sanchez. I feel like it is. Maybe that's where I'm getting it from. Can you.
Jackie Oshry
I'll Google it. Lauren Sanchez. Lauren Wendy Sanchez.
Claudia Oshry
She's so not a Wendy.
Jackie Oshry
Like, I love that.
Claudia Oshry
Okay, so I actually made up Nicole. Cool. We have long been, like, advocates of them as a couple, and they're getting a lot of, you know, there's a lot of commentary on them, on their choices, on their style. So I'm looking forward to discussing that in what I presume to be the first story.
Jackie Oshry
Yes, it's the first story. It's the big celeb story. We could dive into the stories, but I just don't feel, like, thoroughly caught up with you. I feel like we're acting like this is a regular day of toast, not like, Turdy's big homecoming.
Claudia Oshry
We've caught up quite a bit, like, on the Patreon.
Jackie Oshry
So I guess. Oh, speaking of Patreon, I dropped two episodes in the last two days, and the one that went up this morning. Don't sleep on it. It's my stroller haul, and I'm literally.
Claudia Oshry
Sending it to Shannon Ford. She was, like, calling me about strollers. I'm like, you know, I know a lot about, like, breastfeeding things. I know nothing. I bought one stroller, and I like it, and I'm good. You should talk to Jackie. And I was like, actually, she's releasing a Patreon. Just watch it.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah, because I explained, like, why I have so many strollers, like, which strollers I need and you would be set with. And I never needed another one. But, like, then brands send them to me, and, like, they're so fun. Why wouldn't I accept? And then you're kind of like the.
Claudia Oshry
Car bomb for strollers.
Jackie Oshry
I think that I am. But then I also feel like people are gonna be like, oh, I have the Nuna Kruna and I have the Graco Fraco, and, like, I don't even know. I feel like there's so much I don't know. That's what's so exciting.
Claudia Oshry
I have the Luna.
Jackie Oshry
Huna huna. You have the bugaboo, Banky?
Claudia Oshry
I have actually, the Bugaboo Fox 5 for now.
Jackie Oshry
And the Fox 5 is just a singleton. Yeah.
Claudia Oshry
Yes. I have one child, and I can only think that far in advance.
Jackie Oshry
You know, there is a bugaboo that ultimately stretch.
Claudia Oshry
Donkey.
Jackie Oshry
Donkey. But you can use it as a singleton with a little pouch on the side that you could put Romeo in the pouch. I've seen people do that.
Claudia Oshry
Oh, that's actually mad cute.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah, mad cute. Never same with mine, but mad cute. No. Of course.
Claudia Oshry
In terms of catching up with me, I will say this is, like, kind of modeling how my life will be when I do come back to work full time. Like, I woke up, I fed, I got. No, actually, I got dressed. Actually, no, I fed. I got dressed, I fed again. And I had, like, such a pit. Like, a dreadful pit. Like, kind of just the whole morning getting ready. It wasn't, like, fun. Like, I wasn't looking forward to coming back. I was just like, oh, like, this kind of bubble is over. Even though it's not.
Jackie Oshry
Because that's how a lot of women feel going back to work.
Claudia Oshry
The second I left, I was like, we're leaving. Yeah. But the second I left, like, bubble was fine. Like, I was like, oh, scram. See ya. Ben's home. Like, we're good.
Jackie Oshry
I think it's very normal. Coaches.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. Yeah. No. So I'm feeling excited, but, like, I don't know. I was. I've been looking forward to June 30th. Like, my ass back on the toast. Like, putting these. I'm like, I love Liz. I love Natalie. Like you. You love turd. And then, I don't know. Last night, I was like, maybe it's.
Jackie Oshry
Too soon, but it's just one day. And. Yeah, also, it probably didn't help that Lish had such a big morning. We didn't even talk about it. So Daddy was not home.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah, my husband was on the news this morning. He's kind of becoming somewhat of a New York man about town. Let's say that. Like a socialite, a talking head about the comings and goings of business and anti Semitism here in New York.
Jackie Oshry
But those are two kind of different things. But he really is becoming like, a talking head.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah, he was. His head was talking.
Jackie Oshry
His head was talking. He was on Fox Business this morning. Varney and Company.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. We haven't talked about this either about the crazy ass lunatic running for mayor in New York who actually won the Democratic primary. It's actually so scary. And he's just like this crazy, like actual raging anti Semite. And so the Jewish community is sort of freaking out. And that's what they brought Ben on to discuss because he's been very vocal about his dislike of this mom Dani Persona.
Jackie Oshry
It's very, I mean, disruptive, like for the city and the Jewish community. Because if he does win, like what's right, everyone has themselves what they'll do.
Claudia Oshry
A lot of people don't realize that New York City is the largest population of Jews outside of Israel. So it's kind of like a mini Israel over here. And we're friggin and we are going.
Jackie Oshry
To globalize into Fada.
Claudia Oshry
We're freaking. And so that's what they wanted to discuss with Ben on the pod. On the pod. What is that called? On the tv? On the telly, on the tube this morning. And so they got down to work and I was so proud. I was.
Jackie Oshry
I literally had so good.
Claudia Oshry
He did so good. I had like rube on the boob watched, of course. Well, he was actually looking at the boob and the boob wasn't facing the tv.
Jackie Oshry
But he heard, he heard papa.
Claudia Oshry
We were so proud. And I was like, I need you to get home because I have to work now. Just like two talking heads, you know, the schedule of a talking head.
Jackie Oshry
Two talking heads passing ships in the night. Well, he did great. That was really wonderful to see him out there doing his thing and hopefully making change, but who knows? These people are so crazy out here.
Claudia Oshry
So crazy. I like went to the park the day after that guy won and I like just had such contempt for my fellow New Yorkers. I'm like, you people are disgusting.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. What about your fellow influencers? Yikes.
Claudia Oshry
Bikes.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah.
Jackie Oshry
No, it's actually been a weird one.
Claudia Oshry
Weirdly, the New York City mayoral race has like, taken to social media, especially Tick Tock, where everyone feels like they have to endorse this crazy person. And I was like, since when does everybody care? Most of you aren't even registered to vote here because you don't. Like, you live here, but you're not from here. It was, it was so dystopian. And honestly, I buried my head in the sand a little bit. Like, I'm still very much like in my bubble and I'm like, you crazy people. I. I actually want a part of this. Like, I'm, I'm Choosing to put my blinders on. I have a baby to take care of. He slept six hours last night. Like slay.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. Yeah. And I feel like you've got options. You know you've always got me.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah.
Jackie Oshry
Can always come on down. We'd love to have you.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah.
Jackie Oshry
But I know I can't push Turdi.
Claudia Oshry
No brush, no pressure.
Jackie Oshry
I know I can't push 30. That's why I paid so hard.
Claudia Oshry
Jackie's. Jackie is actually the largest campaign contributor to Zoran Mamdani just to run all Jews, including her sister, out of New.
Jackie Oshry
York to get my sister to leave New York. And it could be just the thing.
Claudia Oshry
Yes, but look, I'm so stubborn, it won't even work. And I destroyed the city literally for nothing.
Jackie Oshry
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So true.
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Claudia Oshry
Some of us are.
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Claudia Oshry
Very nice, Jackie. Very nice.
Jackie Oshry
Thank you, coaches. Slow. Just our first story. The 50, $50 million wedding heard around the world. The Sanchez Bezos nuptials took place this weekend in Beniche. Lauren Sanchez won war Dolce and Gabbana and her wedding photos landed her the COVID of Vogue. So there's a lot to break down here.
Claudia Oshry
The digital cover, like, I feel like a lot of people are skipping past that. Yeah, because I saw that too. And everybody was making such a big deal about like these tacky, ugly billionaires being on the COVID of Vogue. And that's why Anna Wintour stepped down.
Jackie Oshry
Is there multiple of them?
Claudia Oshry
Multiple what?
Jackie Oshry
Billionaires being on the COVID of Vogue. Is this a pattern?
Claudia Oshry
I'm talking about them like this, like people. The timing of Anna Wintour stepping down.
Jackie Oshry
I saw that conspiracy theory. It didn't work for me.
Claudia Oshry
But no, I thought, honestly, I thought maybe. Except it was a digital cover. And then I saw Liz P. Woods posted this morning. Really important to note and is not like leaving and retiring. She got a bigger, better job at Conde Nas. Like, the person who replaces her is going to report into Anna. Like, she's bigger and better now.
Jackie Oshry
That's what we said when we spoke about the story with Liz P. Woods and I that like Anna is not Leaving Kanye. Now she has two roles at kanest still, and she'll have, like, a more bird's eye view of the whole company. She won't be directing Vogue. I do think there is something. It's not just, like, this is a promotion, because I do think that, like, Anna Wintour would have died on this throne and, like, you know, sort of being put out to pasture as, like, a board member. And, like, oh, yeah, she does editorial. So I. But this being a digital cover is nothing. It costs them nothing to give her a digital cover. They could give a thousand digital covers.
Claudia Oshry
No, for sure. And I also feel like everyone's like, Anna probably hates this, actually. Like, Anna was the one who started putting celebrities on the COVID So if you're mad at this, the person to blame is Anna Wintour. Like, this is kind of the pinnacle of her life's work now. She's obviously, like, a snob and looks down on everyone, but, like, integrating celebrities. If you look at, like, old Vogue covers, first of all, it was, like, just faces, and it was models, and now this is, like. And it worked for a while. A lot of other magazines I copied and take note. And she definitely influenced, like, the fashion community. But why wouldn't Anna like this?
Jackie Oshry
No, I'm sorry. I thought this was a Vogue cover, and so I was just like, wow, that's major for her. Like, Lauren Sanchez on the COVID of Vogue, like, go off Queen. The fact that this is a digital cover is an absolute nothing burger. Anyone who has a big celebrity wedding and is a big celebrity gets a digital cover of both. Like, I'm no longer a digital cover.
Claudia Oshry
Is where they take your wedding picture and put the words Vogue on top. Like, that's literally it.
Jackie Oshry
No, that's literally like, a digital. It just is not. Like, even when there's a bunch of magazines that do digital covers, it's just, like, throwing someone a bone. And I wouldn't be surprised if Jeff Bezos did make, like, a very large donation in partnership with this cover. And just, like, the Met to the. The Costume Institute. And I think that that's, like, the most important thing to Anna is, like, raise. Like. Like, she, like, has to consort with billionaires all the time for that. And, like, it's a huge fundraiser. And it's not just about, like, fashion. It's about raising money and, like, keeping this philanthropy. And so. And she only got the digital cover. Like, why is everyone so mad?
Claudia Oshry
No bitches were bothered this weekend. Everything about this wedding, the dress, the. The stake core, the celebrity guest list, the only thing I, like, kind of agree with people on is, like, the randomness of the celebrities. Like, like, just. I know there are people there who have never met Lauren or Jeff. Like, you're telling me Sydney Sweeney is friends with these people? Like, no, she's not. She's 22 and they're 100. Like, please. So I agree. Like, and that's just sort of a statement on celebrity culture. Sometimes you just get, like, invited places. They'll fly you out, they'll bring you on a boat just because you're famous. And that's like celeb obsessed culture. So I agree. But everything else, people are hating on so hard, and it's like, the dress was pretty. The body was tea. Like, what are we talking about?
Jackie Oshry
No, the dress was pretty. It's still Cheing Gabbana. Like, like, white lace buttoned silhouette is like a classic feminine silhouette. It's giving Olivia. Like, why is everyone so mad? This is a beautiful thing to behold. There's really no. Even an alien would come down and say, oh, yes, that is beautiful. It's objective.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. Like, arbitrarily. Yeah. Was there a big piece of duty on it? Like, it's just a white Italian made dress.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. So anyone who's, like, clowning on the dress, there's really nothing to clown on. There's nothing controversial, new, or different. It's like a traditional, beautiful look. And she. She. Yeah, her body was insane. Insane. Like, I'm really excited for her to eat again.
Claudia Oshry
Me too.
Jackie Oshry
Just know how hard she was.
Claudia Oshry
So hungry.
Jackie Oshry
That other dress that she wore with no waist. You know, the one on the boat.
Claudia Oshry
Yep.
Jackie Oshry
I was hungry just looking at her.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. No, she. Say what you want about Nicole Sanchez. Okay. She bagged the second richest man. What is he, third richest? I don't know.
Jackie Oshry
Some days, like, number one.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. It depends on the day.
Jackie Oshry
I said a big order. I think he's number one.
Claudia Oshry
Oh. And I just want to say, I know, like, billionaires are problematic. Whatever. They pay, their taxes, the wage. Bezos has enriched my life. Like, especially now as an ftm first time Mom. You are never gonna catch me saying one bad word about him. Like, okay, there are a lot of billionaires who do bad for the world. Jeff Bezos does good for the world.
Jackie Oshry
I don't give a.
Claudia Oshry
And you know what? I don't want to hear another word about the climate, okay. From these people.
Jackie Oshry
Well, yeah, that's the thing. I don't want to hear about it from Leo. I don't want to hear about it. From these people.
Claudia Oshry
And I saw the statistics on private airplanes flying into this tiny venetian airport. Like, please, you can all respectfully, don't fudgeing. Talk to me until you're reusing your own bathwater. You're not allowed to speak ever again.
Jackie Oshry
On this particular issue to make coffee. And if you're not drinking coffee bath water, I don't want to hear from you.
Claudia Oshry
That is also a legitimate critique of this.
Jackie Oshry
Drinking coffee bath water. I also don't want to hear from you. So I just.
Claudia Oshry
Keep your stank breath away from me.
Jackie Oshry
So I just don't want to hear from anyone.
Claudia Oshry
Regardless. Yeah, that's a legitimate critique of, like, this elk of people are so patronizing, and they're always, like, telling us to recycle. You shut up. I don't need to recycle. If you just take one less trip. Okay?
Jackie Oshry
Compared to the rest of the world, compared to you, I have a tiny, tiny footprint.
Claudia Oshry
I'm doing. I'm literally an economist. Oh, no. An environmentalist. Okay. Compared to these people, please.
Jackie Oshry
And don't forget, I have an electric car. I feel like I don't get enough credit for that.
Claudia Oshry
I recycle.
Jackie Oshry
I can do what the fuck I want with my single. Use plastics.
Claudia Oshry
I just want to say, between us, I've gotten really loose with my recycling because, like, before I had a baby, like, sure, I could attribute one whole garbage can to bottles and one to trash. Do you know what trash I accrue now if, like, sometimes I just have to throw a dirty diaper in the recycling one? Like, I'm sorry. I need the space. I'm not taking the trash out right now. The baby's screaming.
Jackie Oshry
No, I. But you know that most of the time they go to the same place.
Claudia Oshry
I do know that. And it's like, I'm working so hard digging through, like, because Ben never does it. So I'm always like. I'm literally rifling through the trash for. For nothing. But I get in trouble with my building if I don't.
Jackie Oshry
No, it's so crazy. I just saw a video of, like, some sanitation worker. Like, there's a, like, a public area of, like, trash is recycling trashes, taking everything, putting them all in the same thing.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. So all that to say, I don't want to hear from Leo or his constituents on this matter ever again.
Jackie Oshry
Especially him. I feel like this isn't real indictment on Leo. I feel like everyone else is like, yeah, save the planet, but they're not so annoying about it.
Claudia Oshry
Right. Kim has never told us to recycle.
Jackie Oshry
No, Leo.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah.
Jackie Oshry
Put a cork in it.
Claudia Oshry
A big one. A recycled one. Yeah, 100%. Now, I know you spoke about this, but I want to talk about Katy Perry and Orlando Bloom breaking up. Because everybody being like this was obviously. You know, I saw this coming. Really. I feel like they've been the most stable sound like I was shocked. Beyond shocked. And it makes me sad that it's coming on the heels of like her negative. Yeah. Because I have to assume it has something to do with it and that makes me sad. But the timing just is too convenient otherwise.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. Or maybe like, maybe they're both related in the sense that like what she's doing in her. What we see her doing publicly, it might be a reflection of also how she's acting privately, which is like a little maybe.
Claudia Oshry
But also it was.
Jackie Oshry
I feel like this is like probably a very hard time for her between flopping publicly and getting divorced. And I just, I. I feel like she'll be a phoenix rising from the ashes. You can't keep her down.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. I just was sad to learn and confused to learn that when they broke up, like he got the Bezos's because she was on Lauren Nicole's bachelorette party. She was on the rocket. Like, like, I thought that was her friends that she brought to the relationship, not his friends.
Jackie Oshry
No, I do still feel like it is. And maybe because of her tour she couldn't go or something because that does.
Claudia Oshry
So he was like, why should we both miss out on the right.
Jackie Oshry
And maybe he has a. His own relationship with Jeff and they were both be invited even if they weren't going together.
Claudia Oshry
I just feel like the celebrity element of this was Lauren Nicole, do you know what I mean? Like, not Jeff. It's doing Jeff is like a loser.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah.
Claudia Oshry
Actually I saw a video of Jeff. Like, I'm sorry, I know that he is like toxic billionaire. For sure, he's a big loser, but he's also a genius. Right. Like the way we regard him is not as like a genius, but he's. So I saw this video of him like in the whenever. What was Amazon created? Like the early 2000s, somebody. And it had obviously like just taken off. It wasn't what it is now. And someone was like, why did you start Amazon? He's like, well, I. He was working in finance and he was like. I saw this statistic that Internet growth, what was up 200 to 2300% this year. So I thought I want to start a business on the Internet selling stuff. And so the Guy was like, well, why'd you choose to sell books? And what he said was so smart. He was like, well, I looked at different categories, and in terms of number of products, books is the category that with the most number of products. Like, if you wanted to sell. The second was music. But if you wanted to sell the most, like, offerings to people, books is the number one. There's the most books. When you think of, like, you could sell food, there wouldn't be even enough, you know, comparative. I thought it was so smart. And then he's like. Then we obviously got into other stuff, but he had hair in the video, too. He had, like, a little brown toupee. It was such an interesting video. And so I was like, yeah, we would, like, clown on him because he's, like, a freak, whatever. But he's also, like, so smart. Amazon is everything. I'm sorry. Like, I love it.
Jackie Oshry
No, I've seen that video as well back. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's not like, just. He just decided to be a bookseller, and he turned into this.
Claudia Oshry
I thought he was, like, a nerd who liked books.
Jackie Oshry
No, I feel like I've been trying to tell you, like, he's a. A nerd all around. Like, in the way that he's also very smart. And that's why when he goes to space, like, I do think it's genuine for him. It's a real love of space.
Claudia Oshry
No, So I still think that the space thing, the space race, like, he's a big loser. Like, I don't think he had a genuine interest in space. I think he saw, like, Elon, who obviously, like, knows space. And I think he saw Richard Branson, who's, like, an aviation expert. I think he got jealous because I don't think he has a genuine interest as, like, a hobby in space and aerodynamics. I don't. I mean, he was a man who worked in finance, like, and he's a tech guy. Like, so it's okay to have interests. You don't have to like space just because you're a billionaire.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah, well, that's true, but I'm. I'm arguing that I do think that he likes it in earnest. But we could go back and forth on this all day, back to the wedding. I also don't think it was $50 million.
Claudia Oshry
So I read 40 to 50, and then I also read 10. 10 sounded a little bit more because it was still just like a wedding, like a party.
Jackie Oshry
And they had said there was things about their wedding coming out months ago that it was like this, This. I don't know what they said. 50 million, 100 million dollar wedding. And Jeff, like, tweeted, you couldn't spend $50 million on a wedding if you tried.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah, yeah. Even if, like, you picked up everybody's private planes. And I do believe that they paid for a lot of the celebrities to be there. The same way when we watch 200 person wedding.
Jackie Oshry
So that's not an insane amount of planes.
Claudia Oshry
How much did the Indian wedding that the Kardashians went to cost?
Jackie Oshry
Let me look it up. It was like, what was it?
Claudia Oshry
100 million?
Jackie Oshry
I'm like, mom.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah, Mom. Donnie.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah, I'm Donnie Ambani. Wedding costs around 600 million. But I also want to say, watching that episode, there was a lot of just like, diamonds everywhere.
Claudia Oshry
I was thinking the same thing. Does that include diamonds?
Jackie Oshry
Does that, like, there was just jewelry everywhere.
Claudia Oshry
Like the table, they had diamonds, like, in the flowers.
Jackie Oshry
I agree. And so I feel like a lot of the money was spent on the diamonds.
Claudia Oshry
Yes. But you know that, like, Chloe and Kim did not spend $0.01 getting there.
Jackie Oshry
They spent $9 million for Rihanna to perform.
Claudia Oshry
Right. And then also just like, accommodations.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah.
Claudia Oshry
Who?
Jackie Oshry
Justin Bieber. They also were thousands of people to accommodate versus 200.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. So it was just like a really extravagant, rich person wedding. And I know there was like a couple of events before. They definitely spent a lot of money, but based on what I saw, like, even just like the ceremony, it was like a really nice wedding.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. Yeah. I don't think it was $50 million.
Claudia Oshry
I'm really happy for Lauren, Nicole. Like, I feel like she really wants to be famous.
Jackie Oshry
And she did it like a dream. I mean, it's a dream come true. Everyone's just jealous.
Claudia Oshry
No, of course, Jackie. We could be talking about a wedding between Jeff bezos and a 19 year old, like, because that's what happens. And here is this age appropriate woman. I'm sorry, I like it.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah, I agree. They had a long courtship. Like a traditionally nor like two years engaged till engagement, one year till marriage. All like, what more do you want? They seem like they really love each other.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah, I'm sorry, I just. I don't hate this. Everyone, like, tick tock. Was, like, making fun of her dress. Like, it's. I'm not. I'm not gonna do that.
Jackie Oshry
Some celebs are, like, clowning too, like Charlize Theron and Olivia Munn and Katie Couric. Did you see Katie Couric getting salty about this?
Claudia Oshry
Wait, what did Olivia Munn say? She's so my queen these days.
Jackie Oshry
I know. Here's what she said one second.
Claudia Oshry
And I kind of like that she's positioning. Even though I don't agree. I don't know what she said, but I probably don't agree with it. I do like that she's positioning herself as like a celebrity who says crazy things.
Jackie Oshry
Like as a hater.
Claudia Oshry
Oh wait. But the last thing she said was also about Lauren Nicole Sanchez. I feel like she has beef.
Jackie Oshry
Like for sure. So she. This is what she said. Oh, I guess she was just.
Claudia Oshry
Oh, I thought you froze. Oh my God. This is what she said.
Jackie Oshry
I guess it's a little misleading. She was more so giving praise to Mackenzie Scott, but the time he's a little weird. So basically Mia Farrow posted on Instagram saying how awesome is Mackenzie Scott, Jeff Bezos, first wife and mother of his four children. As of mid December 2024, she had given a total of $19.3 billion to over 1600 charitable organizations. And then Olivia Munn responded. Truly incredible.
Claudia Oshry
You know what I find incredible? That $19 billion solves nothing. Like I remember what Mackenzie Scott did that and it was all for like good, right? Like poverty and. And it's like, well, there's still so much poverty.
Jackie Oshry
No, I would love to see like what sorts of positivity came out of that because it feels like nothing. Like the world, nothing changed.
Claudia Oshry
You would think $19 million billion dollars like really could with the needle.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah.
Claudia Oshry
Now I think that's amazing and magnanimous and Mackenzie Bezos, I find her so deeply unrelatable. Like that could just never be me.
Jackie Oshry
Like yeah.
Claudia Oshry
Night. Okay, so. But she did get what, 36 bill, if I remember that was like the.
Jackie Oshry
Number she does that she half of it. She donated to charity. I think is the right now of.
Claudia Oshry
Course donating half your money seems like crazy. But like let's be real. She's still like I thought billionaires are toxic. Like she still is 20 bill.
Jackie Oshry
Like, yeah.
Claudia Oshry
And you know that, that billionaire, that billion is like you know, invested and, and earning interest over time.
Jackie Oshry
Gave it all away.
Claudia Oshry
Like I'll be impressed when you live in like yeah. Cuz I'll think that's crazy.
Jackie Oshry
Like a crazy person. You just got to own it. That's why you just have to own it. Like stop trying to please everyone. Like whatever feels right to you, that's what you've got to do.
Claudia Oshry
It does feel like Olivia Munn has some sort of one sided beef with the Bezos because maybe she's. She's actually not A celebrity who says crazy things. She's like, a celebrity who's always talking out against the Bezos. Like, the two. The two, like, most recently and only examples are against the Bayside. Yeah, yeah.
Jackie Oshry
Oh, surely Theron said that they suck.
Claudia Oshry
But, like, that's socially Theron. Like, I do believe Charlize Theron, like, lives in squalor to a degree.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. And, like, she's like a Leo in how she uses her platform.
Claudia Oshry
And at least she's walking the walk.
Jackie Oshry
Like, I agree.
Claudia Oshry
She didn't go.
Jackie Oshry
Then Katie Couric called the COVID tacky. Okay, well, like, is that not crazy?
Claudia Oshry
Those in glass houses, like, you're not, like, a beacon of chicness. Let's. Let's be real.
Jackie Oshry
I just feel like that's so crazy. Isn't she meant to be, like, above this? She's just, like a. A neutral, a commentator personality.
Claudia Oshry
A lot of people.
Jackie Oshry
Now she's slinging mud.
Claudia Oshry
A lot of people were using the words, like, tacky, cheap. Cheesy. Not cheap. Sorry. Cheesy. When critiquing, like, the design of the wedding, the decor, the wedding dress. And I just feel like there are very few people who can speak to that. Like, you have to be perfect. Like, Morgan Stewart. You can critique. Like, there's literally a handful of people. Morgan Stewart is quite literally the only person that comes to mind.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah.
Claudia Oshry
So when I saw, like, all these people on social media, I'm like, you're ugly. And, like, your clothes are ugly. So who the Are you?
Jackie Oshry
Yeah, no, it's so true. I'm really shocked about Katie Couric. Like, sorry, that's just, like, really throwing me.
Claudia Oshry
No, it's. It's. If I'm a famous person and I find myself not invited to the Bezos wedding when clearly such a wide net was cast, Like, Brooks Nader was there. Right. Like, they dipped into influencers, models, athletes, celebrities. And so I'm Katie Couric. I'm Olivia Munn. I'm finding myself not invited. Like, yeah, I'm big. I'm big mad.
Jackie Oshry
But I don't even feel like it was a free for all. I actually wouldn't even be mad. Like, there was 200 people aside from Sydney Sweeney and Brooks Nader. You really name the two, everyone else can be explained.
Claudia Oshry
Tom Brady.
Jackie Oshry
Tom Brady. It lives in Miami, where they live, Right.
Claudia Oshry
Oh, okay. Fair, Fair.
Jackie Oshry
And maybe Brooks was his date. There have been rumors about them. Maybe he brought Brooks.
Claudia Oshry
Sydney Sweeney.
Jackie Oshry
Like, okay, someone explained a big contract with Amazon prime, and so they brought their big client But Jeffrey doesn't even.
Claudia Oshry
Work at Amazon anymore.
Jackie Oshry
Okay. I agree. Sydney's like asylums. And I'm sure there's a perfectly logical explanation, but other than that, like everyone else, like Victoria Tretti, she's there with Leo.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. Why was Leo there?
Jackie Oshry
I'm sure him and Jeff are friends. They seem like the type.
Claudia Oshry
Okay.
Jackie Oshry
The Kardashians, their best friends.
Claudia Oshry
The Kardashians are friends with Lauren. Nicole.
Jackie Oshry
Yes. And so, like, to the fact that the whole family got invited, it wasn't just, like, individual invites. Yeah, like, to the family.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jackie Oshry
I love that Kendall and Kylie went.
Claudia Oshry
Me too. We got looks for days.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. It's so funny how they were like, such background actors when, like, typically they're the stars.
Claudia Oshry
And I really love to see Chloe taking the crown as best dressed in that family. I feel like she always looks good, but she's never, like, the one making the most waves and the most news. And that pink dress, like, everybody agreed she was, like, the best dressed Kardashian, perhaps the best dressed guest.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. I agree. So I didn't. I agree. There's like, Sydney Sweeney is a big question mark. She. Her recent projects have a strong presence on Amazon, according to Google. Gemini.
Claudia Oshry
I don't believe it.
Jackie Oshry
Her movie the Voyeurs is available for rent or purchase on the platform.
Claudia Oshry
Jackie. Every recent movie has a big connection to Amazon.
Jackie Oshry
Additionally, her upcoming film, Split Fiction is being produced by Amazon MGM Studios. Furthermore, there are several biographies about Sweetie.
Claudia Oshry
Sweeney available on Amazon. Like, that seriously means nothing to me. Amazon bought MGM Studios, like, a couple of years ago. They're the biggest, like, maker of movies. None of it. None of it means anything.
Jackie Oshry
I just feel like she might have had a big. Like, she might be a big client of Jeff's. And you invite your clients.
Claudia Oshry
She's not.
Jackie Oshry
Okay. But that's the only one. Everyone. I want to say they're not just like the Ambanis who literally invited celebrities they never met before.
Claudia Oshry
Yes. That was like, celebrities for hire.
Jackie Oshry
And they were proud of it.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah.
Jackie Oshry
And as they should be. And. But they had thousands of people at their wedding. This was 200 people. I do feel like they kept it close knit.
Claudia Oshry
And I want to say, like, say what you want about the Ambanis, but I actually feel like them just, like hiring celebrities to come, like, did amazing things for, like, India's pr. Right. Like, we. We watched the Kardashians have an amazing time, like, for tourism. Like, there was benefits.
Jackie Oshry
No, for sure. We keep talking about it.
Claudia Oshry
Correct.
Jackie Oshry
I think that's a wrap.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jackie Oshry
Bezos wedding 20, 25.
Claudia Oshry
All in all, I didn't hate it.
Jackie Oshry
No, not at all. It was a fun time.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah.
Jackie Oshry
Our next story. Beyonce was left dangling midair do us due to a scary technical mishap during her Cowboy Carter tour performance.
Claudia Oshry
Yes, I saw this.
Jackie Oshry
So Beyonce was left dangling mid air in a car while performing during the first Houston Cowboy Carter tour stop on Sunday. She was catapulted into the air in a red car for her performance of 16 carriages, which she does, which is my favorite song. And while the vehicle was supposed to make its way around the venue so fans don't have floor, who don't have floor seats could get a closer look at her. The car began leaning to one side and came to a complete stop. The car is literally, like, on side. By the time they bring her down, she was lowered to the ground and safely removed. However, it was a scary video to watch, and I'm sure scary for her. And her voice is, like, trembling. If you could see on the monitor.
Claudia Oshry
She stops the song. She said, stop, stop, stop. Like, get me out of here.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah.
Claudia Oshry
Now, obviously, this is terrible for many reasons, but mostly because. Did she finish 16 carriages like that? If I came to the concert, I'm coming to hear that song. Sixteen cabbages riding away like obsessed. It's so good. Did we finish the song?
Jackie Oshry
Oh, I feel like she probably finished the song. The show must go on.
Claudia Oshry
I think she didn't. I just want to say this is unacceptable. Like, if Pink can, you know, fly through the air with the greatest of ease at all of her arena shows, like, this shouldn't be happening to Beyonce.
Jackie Oshry
Sorry. Oh, I agree. Like, this should be done better. But then it also begs the question, like, maybe we don't need to fly through the air on a car.
Claudia Oshry
Well, I want to say I. Of course I blame Taylor Swift for this because she started this sort of, like, communist thing where she created, like, a B stage. Actually, maybe she didn't create it. People are going to be like, you and Mac did it. Gives a. Okay.
Jackie Oshry
Fleetwood Mac used to go to another YouTube.
Claudia Oshry
It's always you two. Okay.
Jackie Oshry
Oh, for me, it's always Fleetwood Mac.
Claudia Oshry
But I feel like Taylor Swift really popularized this thing where it's like a second stage, a second something, and now everyone does it. I went to Olivia Rodrigo. She flies around the arena on a moon. Like, everybody has a thing where if you have seats like that stink, the celebrity comes and finds you, and it's actually nice. Right? Like, why should we be punished why can you only see the celebrity if you paid $5,000? Like, but I. I blame Taylor Swift for this because if. If she hadn't, you know, created all this pressure for Beyonce to be a communist, Beyonce wouldn't be out here dangling in the air.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. And I saw people tweeting like, beyonce, we can see you on the monitors. Like, we've got. Like, you don't have to risk your life.
Claudia Oshry
Stay home.
Jackie Oshry
And I think that's true. But I do think in addition to Taylor Swift, Pink has set the bar too high for flying, for acrobatics. Yeah. And I think people should get comfortable doing less.
Claudia Oshry
One thing about me, I'm not gonna say anything bad about Pink probably ever.
Jackie Oshry
No, I didn't say anything bad about her. And you know that I would say.
Claudia Oshry
No. I could see. I saw you were, like, pushing a little blame onto her.
Jackie Oshry
No, like, she does a lot, and she makes these other look bad.
Claudia Oshry
She does. And the fact that I have not seen Pink in concert. Have you?
Jackie Oshry
No, I don't think so.
Claudia Oshry
We really, like, need to add that to our list. I hear it's an amazing.
Jackie Oshry
No, I know. And I would know every single song. I listen to every album of hers front to back. It's just, like, it hasn't worked out for me.
Claudia Oshry
What's your favorite Pink song?
Jackie Oshry
Maybe, like, what about Us? I love that album. What's yours?
Claudia Oshry
That's a really good song. I forget what it's called. Oh, that's all I know so far. That's all I know. And if you ever feel like just, like, treating yourself, head over to YouTube and watch her performing on the Kelly Clarkson show with Kelly doing harmony.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. She has so many good songs.
Claudia Oshry
I saw something on Tick Tock about Kelly.
Jackie Oshry
What it.
Claudia Oshry
Do you remember how we were talking about how she took, like, a hiatus and she had, like, personal things going on?
Jackie Oshry
Yes.
Claudia Oshry
There is people on Tick Tock saying allegedly that her ex, who we hate, is very sick, which I feel like, kind of made sense with, like, because Kelly's, like, a magnanimous queen, obviously. So she would take time off from her paying job to help the man who tried to steal all of her money.
Jackie Oshry
The father of her children.
Claudia Oshry
The father. The father of her children. If he is really sick. Like, that's so sad. That's just what I saw on Tick Tock, and it felt. It felt right.
Jackie Oshry
That's interesting.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. I wanted to share that with you.
Jackie Oshry
Sad if true. And also sad for Kelly, because then you have to, like, be the bigger or you don't have to. But she obviously would be the bigger person.
Claudia Oshry
No, it's a complex, emotional roller coaster.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. Damn.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah.
Jackie Oshry
Well.
Claudia Oshry
Rifle Ashley ma to Beyonce.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah.
Claudia Oshry
The show must go on.
Jackie Oshry
Speaking of shows, Breener is making headlines as she takes in Olivia Rodrigo set at Hyde park concert in London. So Olivia Rodrigo was headlining the event, the BST Hyde park concert. And Sabrina could be seen enjoying the music from the VIP section. Like, years after their iconic feud.
Claudia Oshry
Alternative headline, Sabrina Carpenter is a better woman than I ever could be because I'm sorry, like, that's still, like, such a crazy thing. And it all worked out great because Sabrina's a star now. But.
Jackie Oshry
But she's a star in spite of that, not because of it. That did not make her a star.
Claudia Oshry
No, it did not.
Jackie Oshry
But I don't know. I feel like if Breener weren't breeding as hard as she is right now and, like, she wouldn't be there. She would not be there. But, like, yeah, it's easy to go watch the little people.
Claudia Oshry
No, true. It's easy to be the bigger person when, like, I would say that your person. Olivia's. No, Olivia's been. Olivia's bigger than her, but only because she's had a little bit more time at this level. But Sabrina in one year or two years time will be doing what? Like, they're on the same exact track. But Olivia started maybe, like two years before.
Jackie Oshry
Yes. I think at this moment today, June 30, 2025, I think Sabrina's bigger than Olivia.
Claudia Oshry
Oh, that's interesting. I don't know if I agree. I think that she's a little bit more viral, but in term, I don't know, guys, sound off in the comments.
Jackie Oshry
Who is it open to? Like, all options.
Claudia Oshry
Me too.
Jackie Oshry
The way I see Sabrina is I feel like she makes music for everyone. Like, old, young, and Olivia Rodrigo feels, like, just a little more young to me. Like, it's for really young. Like, like, yeah, like, the people who go to Olivia Rodrigo concerts probably fit into more of an age bracket than Sabrina. Who, like, everyone.
Claudia Oshry
That's very interesting. I don't know. I. I had the thought when I saw Sabrina at the concert of, like, who is bigger? I. I don't know. I'm happy for both swirlies. They both make amazing music. Like, I'm happy to be a benefactor of their talents.
Jackie Oshry
Agreed.
Claudia Oshry
I do. If I had to take a side, like, I am team Breener, but it's like, it's. It's being made clear to me that I don't have to Take a side. But I still am.
Jackie Oshry
I just feel like it's good to take sides.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. I. I just feel like it's good to pit women against other women.
Jackie Oshry
And so often we see both sides, and we can never pick a side. And we ride the fence.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah.
Jackie Oshry
So when you have a side to pick.
Claudia Oshry
Not we, by the way, just. You were saying more society, not us, because we always pick us up.
Jackie Oshry
I meant us.
Claudia Oshry
No, I feel like we pick a side.
Jackie Oshry
You think? I feel like we're so diplomatic some, and sometimes we really see both sides, and like. Like, we can't call it.
Claudia Oshry
Sometimes we have to be diplomatic. And sometimes, like, a situation calls for diplomacy. Right. Like, I feel like the Paige and Craig breakup is a great recent example of us being extremely diplomatic, but I really did feel that way. Like, I can see both sides.
Jackie Oshry
Exactly.
Claudia Oshry
Now, sometimes I don't see either side.
Jackie Oshry
Oh, well, of course. Justin and Blake.
Claudia Oshry
Right. And then certain sides, certain situations. I exclusively see one side. Maybe to my. You know, to my. What's the opposite of like. To my description, to my detriment. Like. Like, I literally can't see past my hatred. Sometimes it takes years. Sam Hunt.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. But look at how far you've come in your work.
Claudia Oshry
I put.
Jackie Oshry
Now, let me ask you something.
Claudia Oshry
Back in the bottle.
Jackie Oshry
Let me ask you something. Pick a side. Kim or Taylor?
Claudia Oshry
Taylor. But that's just a reflection, not of the situation between them, of just, like, my fanhood right now. Like, I'm kind of off Kim, and I'm so on Taylor.
Jackie Oshry
Does being on Taylor and off Kim make you see the situation differently than you did at the time? No.
Claudia Oshry
Because, you know what?
Jackie Oshry
I know this will always break you.
Claudia Oshry
No Will. But, like, I. Like, I feel like I know Taylor's personality, and I could see her, like, seriously being so hurt and offended by being called a Right. Like, and I could see her, like, I don't think that was calculated of her to have said, like, you know, that wasn't run by me. And then Kim was like, wait, no. I literally have a video of us running it by you, but it's like, well, you didn't run by the part. Like, I could see Taylor. Like, you know, that's like, her brand of womanhood. Like, so I actually, once again, can see both sides.
Jackie Oshry
I understand.
Claudia Oshry
But I also feel like Kim Kardashian and Taylor Swift should never have been friends. Like, you know, it's like high school. Like, not everyone's meant to be friends. They're so different.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah.
Claudia Oshry
Like, I couldn't see them Getting along.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. Well, it looks like Breener has buried the hatchet.
Claudia Oshry
Like, I kind of hate that. I just want to say, like. Like, I kind of hate it.
Jackie Oshry
I agree. Like, what a duet. Next. No, thanks.
Claudia Oshry
Yes. No, it's like, it's a little late.
Jackie Oshry
I don't think so.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. And I just don't know how. Like, yeah, of course we shouldn't put women against women. And, like, it's not Olivia's fault that Sabrina did. It's not Olivia's fault that, like, her fans, like, tried to have Sabrina killed, but, like, she also didn't help.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. Yeah. And from Sabrina's pov, like, she just met someone and they started dating, and then she became, like, the villain in someone, and I don't even think they, like, really dated.
Claudia Oshry
I think it was, like, a fling and, like, she got the ick. Like, it was like, how did I get here? How the do I get out?
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. Well, she's out now.
Claudia Oshry
Oh, big time. Manchild.
Jackie Oshry
Are you ready for our next story?
Claudia Oshry
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Jackie Oshry
Okay.
Claudia Oshry
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Jackie Oshry
Our fourth story is some news that you're really gonna hate.
Claudia Oshry
Okay.
Jackie Oshry
Rita Ora reveals that she proposed to her husband and even got down on one knee during a Palm Springs getaway. So Rita Ora has revealed that she proposed to her husband, turning tradition on its head by getting down on one knee herself. The singer, she's 44. Not only it's like, she the woman and he's a man. She is 44 and he's 49. And she shared on a podcast how she broke convention and took charge of the proposal. She said, quote, I just did the thing. We were in a hotel room in Palm Springs, like, a really nice fancy one filled up with balloons and cake, which is my favorite thing in the world. I got the bands made. I didn't want anything too flashy. He's like, what the hell is it? It's Valentine's Day. And she was like, oh, no. If you're gonna say no, I'm gonna have to take my clothes off. Anyway, I got down on one knee and take. I absolutely loved it.
Claudia Oshry
So I don't hate this only because, like, I don't care about Rita aura. You know, if it was like Taylor Swift proposed to Travis Kelsey, like, seriously vomiting, like, take me to the hospital because I'm not. Okay, So I, like, don't really care. But you guys know, I just hate when women propose to men. Like, men and women have different jobs in this world. Like, and that's okay.
Jackie Oshry
Especially with her being, like, younger than him. I think she's, like, 15 years younger. It's like, if she were 15 years older woman, I would say, like, okay, maybe. No, I wouldn't.
Claudia Oshry
I wouldn't say it.
Jackie Oshry
Then I should. No, I might be more. I just think this is so weird, and I just hate this.
Claudia Oshry
And I'm sorry. Like, I know that there are people who do this, and that's great. Like, break with convention. Like, it will never be me. I will never think it's, like, romantic or cute. Sorry. Like, this is one of my triggers, and if you don't respect my boundaries, then that's on you.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. So we'll respect your boundaries and stop talking about this. Yeah. But immediately, I just needed you to know.
Claudia Oshry
No, thank you. I know you saw this story, and I said, how can I hurt my.
Jackie Oshry
Sister today and add her to the list? List of Becca Kufrin.
Claudia Oshry
Yes.
Jackie Oshry
And Rita.
Claudia Oshry
Rita Ora. And unfortunately, I won't say which book, but it's like, one of those really popular booktok books. A book that I was loving until she proposed on the last page.
Jackie Oshry
That's really so crazy. And what's crazy is, like, you would think this sort of girl, like, who should propose to her man is, like, a girl whose man's not proposing to her. Like, you know, if you're. If it's taking too long and, like, you know it, why can't I propose him? I wouldn't get married.
Claudia Oshry
Okay.
Jackie Oshry
But it's never even that.
Claudia Oshry
What? For me, that's always the assumption. I'm like, oh, you proposed to your man because your man want to propose to you? Like, well, he's obviously not the one for you. He should be begging you to marry him, not, like, you begging him. Now. I know that's not what ends up happening. Like, people do it because it's, like, an empowering thing. I just feel like there are other ways to feel empowered.
Jackie Oshry
I agree. And if I was ever gonna, like, root for someone to propose to a man, like, I would root for the girl who was, like, four years dating someone and he wouldn't propose. And they either have to break up or she has to propose.
Claudia Oshry
I wouldn't root for that. Because if you can't get a man to, like, after four years to propose to you, like, that's not the man for you.
Jackie Oshry
I know we're getting into dear toasters territory. We are, we are. But I. I'm, like, thinking of a certain. Like, a friend of mine. You don't even know her in my head. And it's like, she should have a.
Claudia Oshry
Friend that I don't know. Wow. Maybe I do need to move to Florida.
Jackie Oshry
No, no. She's not even the Floridian. And it's like, they should have gotten married. Like, they like each other. They're a happy couple. He's just like. It's like, you know, commitment, blah, blah, blah. And it's like, if this will get them down the aisle, and they could go back being the, you know, in the relationship roommates that they were. But she could have a ring on her finger.
Claudia Oshry
I just ran into my friend at lunch.
Jackie Oshry
Oh, you have a friend?
Claudia Oshry
She just. Yeah. Who just got married. You know her.
Jackie Oshry
Okay.
Claudia Oshry
And I was like, how's. I was like, how's married life? And she was like, the same. Like, people who are like, I'm afraid of getting married. What the are you afraid of? There's literally nothing scary about it if you're in a relationship. Like, that's the scary part.
Jackie Oshry
Being married does not change your life at all whatsoever. It actually gives you just a sense of, like, peace and common. It's. It's a lovely, wonderful thing. Which is why, like, if you like your relationship and you've been together four years, and he just, like, can't.
Claudia Oshry
And this is important to your partner.
Jackie Oshry
Just, like, can't get past himself, then I. Then. Okay, woman, Take it up. Do the damn thing.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah, woman.
Jackie Oshry
Woman.
Claudia Oshry
So I repeatedly asked you not to call me woman. What's that from?
Jackie Oshry
What's that from?
Claudia Oshry
I'll give you a clue, Murray. I have repeatedly asked you not to call me woman.
Jackie Oshry
Clueless. So I don't think that's what was happening with Rita Ora. And that's why, by the way, I'm not talking about Rita or sympathetic anymore, but I am talking about my friend.
Claudia Oshry
Maybe Jackie, just like me and millions of Americans. I'm not talking about Rita Ora.
Jackie Oshry
I know, but then I feel like her relationship must be so great because she's just, like, stopped working.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. No, I believe he's wealthy, and for that, I respect her.
Jackie Oshry
Put a ring on it. Wipe him up.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. Actually, that's the only situation where it's okay to propose to your man if your man has a lot of money. Yeah.
Jackie Oshry
Though any man with, like, his head on. Right. Should say no. That's the thing.
Claudia Oshry
Like, I know Ben loves me more than anything in this world, and if I had gotten my fat ass down on a knee, he actually would have said no.
Jackie Oshry
And he should have.
Claudia Oshry
And that's why he's the one for.
Jackie Oshry
Me, because that's a crazy woman.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. Literally.
Jackie Oshry
Our fifth and sort final story is going to lead into our TV recap.
Claudia Oshry
It does. My coccydinia is really flaring up. Oh, God.
Jackie Oshry
Well, Kylie Jenner reveals a screenshot from her live island group chat with Haley Bieber. So Kylie posted the most relatable thing on Instagram, which is her Love island group chat, where everyone writes an invisible inc because they might not all be caught up on episode. Like, even we do that in our chat. You're two minutes ahead of me. I need invisible ink. I don't want you to spoil it for me. What was interesting is that Haley Bieber is in the chat under Hailey Rhodes. Sydney is in the chat. Devin Carlson and Kylie.
Claudia Oshry
I would love to know what they were writing. Like, are they as mean as we are?
Jackie Oshry
The fact that Kylie like that Haley. I'm not even Kylie. Haley knows Huda is so crazy to me. I need to know what they're saying. Like, what I would do. Can someone find a way to, like, transcribe this invisible text?
Claudia Oshry
I know when I posted the screenshot of my group chat using invisible text because I wanted to be like Kylie, I was like, there's no way somebody can, like, decode this. Right?
Jackie Oshry
And I just want to ask you. So you started doing invisible text in our group chat to avoid spoilers. Was that something that you had seen or we all just, like, having the same experience of, like, hey, let's use invisible text.
Claudia Oshry
No. I have a lot in common with Kylie Jenner, and we both came to the conclusion. I also love invisible text. It's a great, like. Like, way to land a joke.
Jackie Oshry
It is. It's really good. I really want to be in their group text text.
Claudia Oshry
I know.
Jackie Oshry
Maybe that will.
Claudia Oshry
Our group text is so good. And the good thing about ours is.
Jackie Oshry
That, like, so good.
Claudia Oshry
Some people like, like, have their group texts where they, like, say stuff about Love island and they would, like, never say it on their podcast. We say it. You know, like, what's in our group text is on our podcast.
Jackie Oshry
Let's see what I wrote last night as we get into our TV recap.
Claudia Oshry
Last night we didn't have, like, a big. Because no one was really watching at the same time.
Jackie Oshry
Oh, maybe I won't say this.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah, well, I do want to say there's been a lot of discourse.
Jackie Oshry
Except for the. I'll do the last one inside. The way that Clark is reading that text.
Claudia Oshry
Jail for Clark.
Jackie Oshry
I. I don't have any issues with Clark. Except for the way she read the text of the person whose heart rate was raised the most. And she got to do it for the boys. And the delivery came with a jail sentence.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. Because T.J. did a good job of revealing who the girl.
Jackie Oshry
I didn't even notice it was TJ talking. I'm just hearing the answer.
Claudia Oshry
You're supposed to be invisible.
Jackie Oshry
She puts my question.
Claudia Oshry
It begs the question, where's the host? I find myself asking this question all the time. Peacock, like, spends a lot of money on Ariana. Right. And they're, like, always, like, gassing her up. They fly. She lives in Fiji for the summer. She's literally there. She's on the property. And I find. And I know that this is just like, what Love island does. That, like, cell phones run the recoupling ceremonies. But literally, why there's a hoax.
Jackie Oshry
I don't know the reason, but I will say, and then she comes for.
Claudia Oshry
Some challenges, and she comes for not others.
Jackie Oshry
I'm glad that she doesn't come sometimes because they make such a meal out of her appearance. The walking slow. And, like, I don't just send a text, please, like, yeah, it's slow.
Claudia Oshry
So that was her challenge.
Jackie Oshry
That was really confusing. And it was run by the phones. I forget which one. It was actually insane that there wasn't a host for it.
Claudia Oshry
I feel that way, but I also am new to Love Island. I always feel that way. And people are like, no, that's just, like, what the show does, like, the phones.
Jackie Oshry
But the question is why? Like, what's the reason why when there.
Claudia Oshry
Is a host, if there wasn't a host, I'd be like, all right. That's just, like, what the show does. But sometimes there's a host and sometimes there's not.
Jackie Oshry
Like, are she going over her hourly rate? Like, she's literally there.
Claudia Oshry
She's. I saw her.
Jackie Oshry
She's on TikTok.
Claudia Oshry
She sits in a hotel room and just, like, waits to be called.
Jackie Oshry
I don't know. They obviously have a reason. And. Yes, what is the reason?
Claudia Oshry
The reason is the Motorola sponsorship because, like, they're using those flip phones.
Jackie Oshry
They look cute.
Claudia Oshry
They do look cute. Okay, so last night's Heart Rate challenge was, I guess, a departure from usual ones. Usually it's everybody performing individually. Like, the girl will perform individually for all the guys, which makes a Lot more sense than what last night was. Orgy Island. It was one of the craziest things I've actually ever seen. And I know you're, like, a clutcher pearls type of girl. I'm actually not. Like, it does take a lot. I saw you and Taylor Striker talking about how, like, you're prudes.
Jackie Oshry
Like.
Claudia Oshry
Like, I'm not. Like, I have definitely, like, a conservative side, but for the most part, it takes a lot to shock me. I found it to be just, like, absolutely disgusting. And I felt like this challenge was on par with the milk challenge where they were spitting in each other's mouth. That one might have been worse.
Jackie Oshry
That was worse for me. I do feel like I've been hardened, and honestly, some of my innocence has been stolen from me because now I watch this stuff and I'm like, do more. That's all. Really? That's all you got? You're not gonna win with that move.
Claudia Oshry
Take your pants off.
Jackie Oshry
Off. Give a live blowjob. Like, that's where we're headed.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. No. And we almost got there last night.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. No, no, Claudia. We're, like, seriously, like, minutes away. Minutes away from someone just, like, sticking a finger. And, like, if someone, like, did that because, like, what's the difference, really? Or someone, like, going under someone's shirt and grabbing their boobs, but that would be, like, sexual harassment harassment.
Claudia Oshry
So I feel like there were a couple of instances in last night's challenge where I could tell that the person who was getting kissed or approached, like, did not.
Jackie Oshry
Not want it so bad for Sierra. All the guys and all the girls.
Claudia Oshry
Ugh. Jackie. I was gonna say Sierra. For some reason, anytime a girl wanted to kiss a girl, they went for Sierra, not Shelly, who has been open about her bisexuality. Like, you think she would be more open to Kissinger?
Jackie Oshry
Well, Sierra has also initiated girl kisses in previous challenges, like with.
Claudia Oshry
With Shelley.
Jackie Oshry
So maybe she is also bisexual. We just didn't, like, hear that because she came on later on the show. Like, I. I think she's open to kissing girls, but, like. Like, to kiss everyone in the villa. Get away from me.
Claudia Oshry
I felt bad for her too.
Jackie Oshry
I really felt bad for her.
Claudia Oshry
I don't know if anybody counted, but, like, how many times somebody got pulled? She definitely got pulled the most.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. And speaking when you were saying, like, what if somebody went under and grabbed somebody's boobs? I feel like. And this is what a lot of people on social media are saying, I feel like that is what happened with Huda. And there's Been a theory for, like, weeks that. That Ace likes Huda. So. And that's why he was, like, kind of mean to Jeremiah, and that's why he voted Jeremiah off. And he got his minions to vote Jeremiah off because he, like, wanted a piece of hood. And so the fact that, like, his heart rate was elevated the most by Huda does validate that theory, but it also validates the theory that maybe something happened that they cut out. Because it does look like Shelly's just, like, kind of being crazy. Right? But Shelly's not a crazy person, and she actually really understands this experiment. And she's also kind of sexually free. Right. She's. He's very open about her sexuality. So I do think something was either cut or.
Jackie Oshry
Or just went on longer than we saw. Like, I think it was condensed. I don't know if there was, like, an action that was cut. And I'm gonna operate as if there wasn't, because you could say that about anything at any time. Yeah, but, like, Shelly and Chris are kissing on one side. They do their whole makeout, and then it's over. Hood and Ace are still kissing, so it's too long. She has her ass. Ass.
Claudia Oshry
They're in 69 position.
Jackie Oshry
That's. @ first. She's kissing him with her ass grinding on him. Like, they're having sex, you know, dry sex. Okay.
Claudia Oshry
But that's what everyone was doing.
Jackie Oshry
Okay. Then she gets up and turns around and puts her thonged ass in his face and bounces on his face. Then they cut. So I don't know how long that went on for, but I just think the whole thing was too long and too much for someone's. Ace is essentially Shelly's boyfriend. Like, there's not that many couples in the house. I would say it's just Ace and Shelly and Nick and Sierra, where it's like, this is my person. Okay. Okay. Maybe it's time to close.
Claudia Oshry
Sierra, Shelley and huda are like, OGs, and they're really good friends. Or they were.
Jackie Oshry
Yes. Maybe it's time to close off, and that's a separate conversation. Like, why doesn't anyone want to close up? And I. I don't even fault Shelly for going with Chris because, like, that's an established connection. She's gonna see it through. Huda could have picked anyone in the villa to have her big one with.
Claudia Oshry
Right?
Jackie Oshry
And everybody picked her best friend's man.
Claudia Oshry
Everybody, like, went around the couch and diddled with the opposite sex and some of the same sex. But then everybody also took one person and Brought them back to the heart for like the grand finale. So for Huda to have taken her friend's man, it was obviously like her kind of asserting dominance because Shelly is going still, you know, exploring with Chris. And I think Huda knows, like, if, if Shelly will take Chris, Chris is going with Shelley. You know, like, Hooda is very much like a plan B for Chris.
Jackie Oshry
What about Hooda's love for Pepe? Why didn't you pull Pepe? Don't you have a crush on him? You sent Hannah home.
Claudia Oshry
So I do relate to Huda in that.
Jackie Oshry
Obviously him giving him another glance.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah, no, because she didn't actually care. She's just like holding on to people, like life rafts. Like. Yeah, because ever since Jeremiah left, she's been really vulnerable many times and she's been in the bottom. Yeah, a couple of times. Times.
Jackie Oshry
I thought Shelly's reaction was completely appropriate. I just, I'm telling you, I've seen a lot of people being like, Shelly has no right. She's literally into Chris. Chris is Hooda's partner. She's hooking up with Hood, his partner. It's different. Chris is in Hooda's man. They're exploring. And Shelly and Shelly and Chris have the same relationship as Hood and Chris. Ace is Shelly's man.
Claudia Oshry
I care less about, like, who's right and who's wrong. Like, thank you, Shelly. I'm ready for the girls to start turning on one another. It has been boring as. Yeah, everybody being so obsessed with being perceived as a girl's girl and not a mean girl. There's been no inter girl drama. And thank you, Shelly. Like, I needed to see Andrina being so two faced. I lived for that. Like, that's my girl right there. I related to her a lot last night because she was just like talking to different girls and telling them what they wanted to hear. And then she also was into Pepe, like Queen.
Jackie Oshry
And you know what is in a bad spot when she like needs two friends around her and she chooses who are like the ran, not her friends, not the crew. And like, that means she's just like recycled through friends. And it's like, like it. I can't explain, like, why that's so obvious. Like, yeah, I'm just gonna pull the people who I know would just be happy to talk to me because, like, they're kind of friendless here.
Claudia Oshry
It's like when everybody turned on Lisa Vanderpump and so her only friend was Joyce Gerard. Like, you know, she was just holding on to her for Dear life because she needed someone to talk to at the party.
Jackie Oshry
And the fact that Shelly has all the OGs around her just goes to show, like, the state of things.
Claudia Oshry
And I think they all agreed with Shelly, which makes me think even more so that something was cut because like we said, we saw their facial reaction and I was like, wait, I feel like something is missing because Pepe is getting involved.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. There was no ambiguity. Sierra said she would feel the exact same way if it were Nick.
Claudia Oshry
Right.
Jackie Oshry
Alandria, who even though she get her own house in order, does, like, see things clearly outside of her home.
Claudia Oshry
I need a landria to go home. And I say that as a fan of Alandria because it's the classic case. You either die the hero or live long enough to become the villain and say what you want. Like, I hate Taylor, but, like, he has chosen Clark. That's his right. And you know, we're exploring connections, right.
Jackie Oshry
With Clark. He never did the opposite with Alandria.
Claudia Oshry
So even though, like, it's a betrayal or whatever wrong.
Jackie Oshry
And he should love this is.
Claudia Oshry
They all keep saying, like, they're not closed off and they're all experimenting and they're all exploring. So, like, this is what happens. He found someone he liked better. And so we could argue on the ethics of that. But at the end of the day, she's now just, like, chasing after a man who does not want her, who has done her dirty and she looks bad. Like, I need her to go home desperately and find Jayla.
Jackie Oshry
Coco should have stayed coke. Like, Coco. To me, Coco is a Jalen. Like, really not only, like, eligible young thing, most beautiful person. One of the most beautiful. Not to compare time about looks. Everyone's beautiful. But, like, she was on another level.
Claudia Oshry
And like, and there are other guys in the villa who had interest in her ship.
Jackie Oshry
Coco and Chris. When I saw that recoupling of Casa and Villa, I, like, was just like, immediately, I need Coco and Chris together.
Claudia Oshry
Me too. And see, there's nobody in the house for Alandria. Like, that's been made clear. There are a couple of people for Coco.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. So that, like, additional, like, these are the worst voters. They need their voting rights revoked every single vote they get wrong. They were right to keep Elon, but that's because the Casa people voted and they're, you know, not as terrible at voting.
Claudia Oshry
And I just want to say Elan. I don't know why they keep calling him Elon. I feel like his name is Elon.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. They keep up his name, everyone.
Claudia Oshry
And to Be honest. I am too. I don't know what it is. Somebody. I thought it was Elon.
Jackie Oshry
I think it's Elon.
Claudia Oshry
I think Elon and Huda are a testament to peace in the Middle east because like, no, for real. They elevated each other's heart rates. Like, I think that what they could do for, for the situation, for the very volatile situation is Palestinian Elon. There's been rumors about Elon that he's like an Israeli IDF soldier who like killed Yahweh. He's a curly haired Jew from Toronto. Like, I feel like I went to camp with him. There's like literally nothing nefarious about him. Having said that, like, I need them to, to have a convo and like, I feel like they could be a beacon of, of hope and peace for the region.
Jackie Oshry
You think they could ease tensions?
Claudia Oshry
I do.
Jackie Oshry
It's. It's very possible, honestly. And like this show kind of, they keep sort of falling into each other's mouths.
Claudia Oshry
Found themselves like, yeah, like, they didn't need to cast like a Jew and a Palestinian, but they did. And like, I feel like Jews are never on this show. Like, it's not a show for Jews. You know, like they're in bathing suits all the time. Like they went out of their way and like, let's make it work.
Jackie Oshry
What if Elon and Huda won the.
Claudia Oshry
Show and they donated the money to an organization.
Jackie Oshry
Right, right measures and they. I don't know, like, it's possible.
Claudia Oshry
I'm obviously being idealistic, but that's. I just feel like.
Jackie Oshry
Is that what you're saying?
Claudia Oshry
Yeah.
Jackie Oshry
So winning couple so far. Pepe and Andrina, by the way. By the way, if they get together.
Claudia Oshry
And they get together.
Jackie Oshry
Makes me so sad.
Claudia Oshry
Why?
Jackie Oshry
Like, nobody came into the villa with like more like steam behind them. Like every guy was ready to drop their girl for her.
Claudia Oshry
Casa Amore, like sort of like derailed all of her momentum.
Jackie Oshry
So she ch Jeremiah, he gets sent home Casa More. She just becomes like one of the girls again. And like she doesn't have any friends and like now these guys, all the girls are new to them. So like she didn't even get her like shiny new thing moment and now she comes back into the village just like a random. Like she's just giving such rando and I just want more for her because I really like her. Are you okay?
Claudia Oshry
Did you think I froze?
Jackie Oshry
Not for a second. I thought maybe like you were unwell.
Claudia Oshry
Oh my God. I wanted. I've been planning the whole episode.
Jackie Oshry
Like, no, I could be like the background noise continuing to move. I thought maybe like your coccydinia had you in a tizzy.
Claudia Oshry
Oh, no, I really, I thought you.
Jackie Oshry
Were maybe holding a moment of silence.
Claudia Oshry
For what could have been Andrina's future. I like that better. That's what I was doing.
Jackie Oshry
That's what I thought. I thought you were about to like, like just land one on me. Oh, I thought it was a performative joke.
Claudia Oshry
No, it wasn't. I was like trying to just like prank you. Yikes. Okay, moving on. I agree with you. Like, what could have been Andrina's future? Like, the timing, all of it, like, it just, it was squandered.
Jackie Oshry
Now she's just like so random in the villa and like, so I'm glad that her and Pepe and it must be like, I feel like she's also.
Claudia Oshry
Just kind of like happy with whoever she's with. She's not super like, she, she liked that guy. By the way, do you see Michael B. Jordan like, likes her photos? What the hell is she doing on the show?
Jackie Oshry
I don't know, but she's never had a boyfriend. I do feel like she would just be excited for someone to like her and she can't catch a break. And I think from last night's challenge we really need to think about, like, who were the mutuals heart raised by, like Pepe and Andrina? Like, I think now they're like looking at each other a little differently. I feel like that sort of sentence a signal to both of them, like, oh, I mean, Huda and Ace are another one though, that by the way.
Claudia Oshry
They'Re the same height. It's perfect. That would be like, that's. The season does feel like it's getting a little stale, right? And I'm so over the OGs. They have this like really toxic loyalty to each other and they're like, not interesting anymore.
Jackie Oshry
But on the other hand, I can't handle a new person.
Claudia Oshry
No. Me.
Jackie Oshry
Anyone else?
Claudia Oshry
The show needs a shake up, like a really big one. I thought it was going to be Nicolandria. It's not. Maybe it's gonna be haste. Maybe it's gonna be haste.
Jackie Oshry
Maybe it's gonna be Hayes. And you know who else is a winning couple? My king and queen.
Claudia Oshry
Let me think, let me think, let me think. Who's left? Austin and Jaden. No, they're so irrelevant. Like, I actually, I respect her.
Jackie Oshry
Like him.
Claudia Oshry
No, but I respect her because she's like trying to be an influencer. Like she needs to stay on and if she Chose Nick in that ceremony. She was getting sent home.
Jackie Oshry
But I said the same thing. She chose Austin. Yes. And that's, like, best for Jaden self, but, like, her heart rate was raised the most by Nick. Like, she played that all wrong in the sense of, like, she has no chance with him anymore because now Nick is, like, obsessed with Sierra as he should have been.
Claudia Oshry
So. Wait, who were you referring to? Oh, yeah, yeah. By the way faves Iris and tj, like, our bland give us nothing. But they're, like, loyal and steadfast, and they do look like siblings, which more often than not, like, a couple that looks like they could be related are gonna be together forever. Like, if. If in 50 years time they have three grandchildren, like, I will not be surprised.
Jackie Oshry
There's just, like, too normal for this show. And I get, like, nervous for her in the challenge. They're. Because I'm like, what are you gonna do? Like, when the twerk?
Claudia Oshry
That's how I felt about Clark.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. Because she also doesn't have, like, all the girls hyping her, but I feel like they did a good job of, like, making her feel they hate her.
Claudia Oshry
But they didn't want to make her feel. I don't know why. She just doesn't give me the vibes like everybody else. Like, she's down to orgy. Clark. She. I don't know what it is about her. She seems kind of shy. I think she's always, like, putting her hair in front of her face.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah.
Claudia Oshry
Like a shy girl would.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. And, like, she doesn't have a lot of friends in the village yet. Just Jaden and Grayson.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. But they're weak.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. Yeah. So it's like, what, you're gonna go around and make out with everyone? Like, they. It's just really awkward. So I feel that way sometimes for the challenges. Like, some people are, of course, gonna turn up. Sierra's, like, built for this. She's so good at it. But then some people, I feel really awkward. And I thought Iris did a good job and, like, she didn't debase herself.
Claudia Oshry
Yes, exactly. She went first, and I'm glad they went first. First.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. She was like a puppy. It's really cute how to ship her.
Claudia Oshry
And Pepe. Pepe's just the kind of guy who, like, goes well with whatever woman's on his arm.
Jackie Oshry
He's a pot that fits with many lids.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. Maybe turd self lid.
Jackie Oshry
Maybe turn selfless.
Claudia Oshry
You know, Title. I love it. Well, that is your final show of right now. So here's what's gonna happen. I just want to remind everyone we are not going away. There will be weekly regular toast episodes Fast five.
Jackie Oshry
We have a studio building in our house for the summer.
Claudia Oshry
The equipment's on its way. Don't worry, it'll be dropped weekly instead of daily and that'll be on patreon. So join patreon.com toast and then also on the regular public podcast, we're doing re releases. Some of our favorite. We had you guys vote for your most iconic favorite toast herstory episodes and we're going to be reliving moments. It's a great time. If you've been like recently enjoying our show, you just got here but you don't know like all the jokes we like reference and where that stuff comes from. It's a great way to kind of educate yourselves. So make sure you're subscribed to us. Wherever you get your podcasts, just follow us on social media. Girl with no job. Jackie. Oh no, you're Jackie Ash right now. Sorry. So you never miss a minute.
Jackie Oshry
She said it then now what's that from?
Claudia Oshry
She's a what now?
Jackie Oshry
Like when someone changed their name.
Claudia Oshry
I have no idea.
Jackie Oshry
Too far gone. Comment if you knew what I was.
Claudia Oshry
Talking about and let us know who's a bigger star, Sabrina or Olivia Rodrigo.
Jackie Oshry
And maybe turn self lid.
Claudia Oshry
Maybe turn self lid. Wait, no. What did I said one other word.
Jackie Oshry
I think that was it.
Claudia Oshry
Maybe turn self lid. Thank you guys so much for listening to the toast of Monday morning show where we deliver the fastest stories in each and every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So if you're watching this on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe and give this video a thumbs up. We're also available as a podcast anywhere podcast can be found. So that's Spotify, itunes, stitcher Public Radio, iHeartRadio, Cast Box, all the places web listen to podcast by also toast. Leave a five star review about a beautiful, stunning and wickedly talented. We are.
Jackie Oshry
Love you. Bye.
Podcast Summary: "Maybe Turd Self Lid" – The Toast with Jackie & Claudia Oshry
Episode Details
The episode kicks off with Jackie and Claudia Oshry exchanging playful banter and updating listeners on their personal lives. Claudia shares a vivid dream about Jackie having twins, sparking a heartfelt discussion about Jackie’s pregnancy and the joys and challenges it brings.
Claudia expresses excitement about their upcoming summer trip, marking this episode as their last before the summer break. They also discuss their fashion choices, both adorned in duty green, hinting at their packed wardrobes in preparation for summer activities.
Transitioning to lighter content, the sisters delve into their favorite moments from the "Jackson Friends" series. Jackie reflects on the difficulty of choosing a least favorite guest, emphasizing the positive connections she made during the show.
Claudia highlights her preference for the "Costco guy," AJ Big Justice, praising his genuine family values and the positive influence his family had during his appearance.
Jackie shares her admiration for AJ's family's warmth and their commitment to family values, noting the memorable impression they left on her.
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to dissecting recent events on "Love Island." Jackie and Claudia analyze various contestants, challenges, and the show's dynamics, offering their critiques and support for different participants.
The hosts discuss the controversial challenges posed on the show, particularly focusing on the Heart Rate Challenge, where contestants participated in intense physical activities designed to gauge romantic compatibility.
They express concern over potential editing practices that may obscure true interactions between contestants, leading to theories about behind-the-scenes manipulations.
Jackie praises Claudia's recent viral TikTok content, noting a shift where their typically unpopular opinions on the show gained appreciation and agreement online.
They also discuss the role of influencers like Sierra in maintaining authenticity on social media, contrasting it with others who rely on managed online personas.
The conversation shifts to broader celebrity news, including the high-profile wedding of Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez. Jackie and Claudia dissect the event, Vogue's digital cover featuring Sanchez, and the public's reaction to it.
Claudia shares her admiration for the wedding's aesthetics and the decision to showcase it on Vogue's digital cover, countering the backlash from some fans.
They debate the legitimacy of the reported $50 million wedding cost, attributing much of the expenditure to luxury elements like diamonds and celebrity performances.
The hosts cover an incident during Beyoncé's performance where technical issues left her dangling mid-air. They express concern for her safety and disappointment that the show had to halt the performance.
Throughout the episode, sponsored segments for brands like Wayfair, Roback, Rocket Money, and BetterHelp are integrated. These advertisements promote products and services ranging from home furnishings to financial management and mental health support. As per instructions, these sections are acknowledged but not detailed in the summary.
As the episode concludes, Jackie and Claudia discuss transitioning their show schedule due to their summer plans. They announce a shift from daily to weekly episodes, available through Patreon alongside re-releases of favorite past episodes. They encourage listeners to subscribe and follow them on social media to stay updated.
The episode wraps up with playful exchanges and reminders for listeners to engage with their content online. Jackie and Claudia express gratitude for their audience's support and reiterate their commitment to delivering engaging content, both old and new, through their revamped schedule.
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This episode of The Toast offers a blend of personal anecdotes, in-depth discussions on reality TV dynamics, celebrity culture critiques, and a peek into the hosts' evolving content strategy. Jackie and Claudia Oshry maintain their signature humor and candidness, providing listeners with an engaging and multifaceted listening experience.