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Good morning, girlies. It's the toast. It's Jackson Claude and we're your host.
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It's your favorite show.
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The best five things you need to know.
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We'll start your day off Swirly. It's the toast.
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They sound amazing.
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Welcome back to the toast and happy Monday. Happy mom day.
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It's the Monday after Mother's Day.
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Mother's Day this year felt like my birthday. I got so many texts like I. Are we texting other moms?
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Like, yeah, you know what? And I woke up like really early and I had received like a couple of texts already and I was like, what if I'm just the person that initiates? What if I'm the person who like writes in the group chat first, not the one who's last? Like the slob. Yeah, you too. Happy Mother's Day.
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I know. I sent so many youtubes I felt bad.
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I know. What if I put other on blast? What if I did it?
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First of all, I love that like kind of our sister put you on blast. Cuz she sent me flowers. Yeah, she's like, happy first Mother's Day.
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She put you on blast. Cuz she got me a gift in a card and she put me on blast.
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A gift?
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Yeah, she got me actually a really cute gift that's like. You wouldn't think it's like the craziest gift, but it's like my favorite gift I've gotten in a long time. It's like it was just like a set of little pastel bowls that.
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Wow.
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Like ceramic bowls that are pleny and
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maybe she's waiting to give it to me in person.
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Yeah, no, she said she was like at the mall and she just saw them and thought of me and she just want to get me a little something because I've just been like really amazing and oh my God. And no, because I made like the dinner. I guess I've been like cooking a lot and we had taco night Friday night and like I needed little bowls and I guess she saw like my lack of little bowls and she saw a bowl, so she's sensible. And I got these.
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She saw a little bowl.
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She's on my. She saw me. Really? Is what she saw. Yeah, and they were like beautiful. I actually took a video of them today. Like love them so much. I'll post them. They're stob too. Like that brand. Stop.
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What is it?
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S T A U B. It's like, it's similar to like Crusade. It's ceramic quality things I've never heard of It.
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Although if I did see the brand Staub, like, personally, I would say Staub.
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I don't know. I, I. You might be right. I don't know.
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No, I don't know either.
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So. Yeah, and then I didn't get her a card or a gift, so, like, I looked like a horse.
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I didn't get. I didn't get anyone. That's terrible.
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Yeah. It's not. Just, like, I, I don't feel put on blast that she got you flowers. Like, then you feel unbust because you didn't get her flowers.
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Yeah, of course. Like, I didn't realize, like, that I was also supposed to be showering other mothers. Do you know what I mean? With love and gifts and affection.
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It was your first time, you know?
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Yeah. So I did. I don't know if I'm gonna get, like, this many texts always, but maybe because it was my first, like, people went out of their way to text me, and by the time, like, I, I thought, I'm like, oh, maybe I should text someone, I had pretty much already spoken to everyone except, like, Lauren Elena. So I sent her a text. She's like, my mom buddy. Because, like, we literally gave birth, like, the same week. So I was like, happy Mother's Day. But, like, besides that, I had already communicated with everyone.
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That's so funny. Oh, and also say, yes, I did think about, like, being the one to send the text first and, like, put everyone on blast.
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And.
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And I didn't do that. But I thought about it. Maybe next year.
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The thought is not the thing that counts.
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No, but, like, maybe next year. I think I'm gonna do it next year. I couldn't do it, like, because it's an early alarm. Like, the minute I thought about it, then, like, all of a sudden, eight hours passed, you know?
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Right, of course, of course. Things like that, it always happen.
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Classic. But next year, I got you guys.
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So we went away for the weekend. I have so much to tell you that I didn't tell you, like, offline, because I wanted to share it on the podcast.
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Okay. How was your weekend?
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How did. Something insane happened? Like, the craziest thing ever has happened, actually. I'm not sure if I'm overreacting or underreacting.
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You know, tell me.
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But let me just say we went, and I'm not going to say the place, because, you know, I don't like to just.
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Did you like the place? No. Okay.
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I don't know. I know I did, but, like, I don't know how to, like, it contextualize
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what you know now.
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So let me just say it was like, you know, a bed and breakfast type of retreat in the woods. It was very woods. We went on lots of, like, nature walks. It was so nice. It was a spa.
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Was it a big brand name?
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I think so, yeah. Okay, do you want to hear something crazy?
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I want to hear. I want to hear.
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Let me just.
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I just tell you. Stay on track. Why? What happened?
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So I. I did, like, become a Karen, but I don't know if I was being like a Karen or I wasn't Karen.
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And we can.
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So we got there and I called for a crib, and we did our first snap in the crib. And like, the crib was like a little small. It was almost like a bassinet. I'm like, what the hell is this? So I call him like, you guys have this bigger crib. They're like, we have a pack and play. I was like, oh, perfect. We love a pack and play. Pack and play comes. He sleeps in it that night. The next day we do our naps in it. And then like, on the second day, Ben. I don't know what he was doing in the bathroom. Like, rearranging. And he comes out and he was like, are you vaping again? And I said, excuse me, why the would you ask me that on Mother's Day?
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Mother's Day.
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And he goes like this. And he holds up a jewel. He was like, this was underneath the pack and play mattress, like between the little mattress pad and the bed. And I was like, what? Like, that's not mine. He was like, it literally was under there. Everybody slept on top of it. I was so upset. I was freaking out. I of course, called downstairs and it had to do it over the phone because if I did it in person, I would have been like, oh, no, it's fine. Like, it's not fine.
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No.
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Right. I don't know. Is it?
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So here's what I'll tell you. Ruby is fine. Yeah, Ruby's fine. So unacceptable from the hotel. Like, I completely rip them a new one. But Ruby is fine. You don't have to worry. I mean, he could be, but he's fine. It was under the thing. He's fine.
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Like someone else's germs. Nicotine and tobacco. Like, I'm sick.
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The germs are like, the least part of it.
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So I called downstairs.
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Wait, do you think it was Ruby's Mother's Day present to you?
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Yeah. He picked one up at 7:11 and
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he hit it like a Tooth fairy.
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So I called downstairs, and I was like, I'd like to speak with the manager. I literally felt like such a Karen. And they were like, okay, he'll call you back. He called me back, and I was like, I just want to let you know that this happened. And he was like. He had an appropriate response, which was like, oh, my God. Like, that's insanely inappropriate. That's unacceptable. You know, beneath our. And he was like, what can I do? What can I do? What can I do?
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A million dollars should cover it, of course.
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And I didn't want to say that because then they make you think that, like, you're only calling, like, to get the discount. And he was like, we could send champagne. I was like, I don't need champagne.
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I. I'm not Julie anymore. So I said things.
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Sir, I trust that you'll make this right. He said, absolutely. So what do you think is an appropriate accommodation to be made?
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If I'm being measured and I'm speaking for both parties, one night free.
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Oh, okay. I got a $250 credit.
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How much was a night there?
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Not that.
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And that means you have to, like, spend more money there?
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Well, no, we already had to, you know, run up a tab of room service and things, so it just made a very small dent. But I'm like, $250. That doesn't feel appropriate. No, it doesn't.
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Feels low.
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Yeah. And so, like, I kind of, like, liked the place and would return, but I don't know how to hold space. Space for the Jewel.
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Oh, you can just, like, you just, I guess, have to check every crevice of the pack and play and I guess maybe.
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Who set it up? Well, the thing is, I. I know whose fault it was.
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Finn.
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No. Oh. It came set up. Like, the guy brought it in, and it was, like, a young teenager. Like, it was obviously him.
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Oh. So heads need to roll. I didn't know that. I just thought it was, like, wedged in there from, like, the last stay. Maybe some parent. No, but if you can know who it probably is.
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Yeah, the. The person brought it up fully assembled already and just wheeled it in, and it was like, a young kid. It was a kid. And on the phone, I got the sense that, like, the manager knew exactly who it was. Like, there's, like, a teenager who's always. He's always having to, like, tell him
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to stop vaping, you know, 1,000%.
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Yeah. No, it was definitely a hostel staff.
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He should be fired.
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Absolutely right.
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If you can't keep your Jewel out of the cribs.
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Yeah. Okay.
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You shouldn't work there. Yeah, I agree.
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I agree. I was so upset. Like, I could not believe.
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Yeah, that's really disturbing and not cool.
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But Ruby's not cool.
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It's okay.
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Yeah. So there were a lot of other great things about the weekend, but, like, that's sort of the headline. No, it was. I. And then I hate to, like, make my whole trip about that because it was really great. Like, first of all, I went to the spa, and they had something I had never seen before. So I go and I said, she's like. Like, literally, it's crazier than crack. She sits me down. What scent would you like? You know, they all smell terrible. And I was like, unscented, please. And she was like, okay, would you like me to lower the breastplate? I said, what? She's like, we have a breastplate. I'm like, what's that? There's literally in the table. You can lower. It, like, sinks in so your breasts can sort of, like, dangle and, like, create space for your breasts.
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Hold space.
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I was like, girl, lower that to the floor. Like, it was probably the most comfortable I've ever been during massage. All places need that. That's a type. When I say inclusivity, that's what I'm talking about.
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Yeah. Was it like a spa? First hotel, you know, with like. Yeah, leading spa.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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We're going to find out what hotel it was, guys.
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I find it was the Pendrina. Teary. I don't give a. Like, what the pen. I know. Weird name. Pendry Natiri. Yeah, it's part of the Montage Collection. So, like, they have budget. They have budget to credit me. Okay.
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Pendry Natiri of the Montage Collection. I've never heard of it.
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It's like this really huge estate. It was like a former home of the King of Morocco that they turned, of course, into a better breakfast.
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You had to go.
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I know. When they said that, I was like, you're kidding. My history on my property.
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That's my king right there.
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And they have, like, a spot, spa, a farm, bunch of restaurants. Like, it's really. And it's on, like, this huge park. It's a public park, but it's, like, up the mountain on the park, and so you can go down. The park is like this insane walking path with rivers and creeks. Like, it was very natural, very nature weekend. So, yeah, it was crazy. Except for that.
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Like, that is crazy. So, all in all, how was your little family staycation it was amazing.
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Like, I really felt like I was on drugs the whole time. Like, I was so happy. We, like, did spa. Ben and I, like, you know, took turns going to the spa. We went for walks. We had beautiful dinners. I had a cocktail. Yeah, that's right. Turn up at the natiri lab. Oh, there was a wedding on Saturday night there. Of course, the bride was a toaster. Like, it was amazing. She came up to me, and she was like. I could tell she was trying not to get emotional. She was like, I can't believe you're here. Like, you don't understand. My grandfather's name was Ruby. And it just feels so special that you guys are here. And I was like, you're great. I never meet someone whose grandfather was named was Reuben.
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Like, I'm not Okay.
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That goes by Ruby. She was like, yeah, no, that's my grandfather. And I guess she, like, felt the presence of her grandfather through Osmosis, Through Reuben.
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Softer.
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So I was, like, honored to be there for her.
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And Ruby was the guest of honor.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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I'm not okay.
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It was really beautiful.
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That's so beautiful. And then you went to the Knicks game.
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B
Oh, right. And then Sunday, you know, right after we checked out, we drove because we were, like, only an hour and a half away from Philly. We were equidistant between Philly and New York. So Ben was like, what if we went? Oh, I didn't tell you this part of the story either. This is so funny. Ready? So I was like, I will go to the Knicks team with you, but you always want to go with me and the baby. And it's like, we can't sit in the stands like he's a baby. I'm like, buy me a suite. Like, seriously, you want me to go? Buy me a sweet life of Turt and Ruby. But I was like, you can't just buy a suite. I'm like, well, if anyone can figure it out, it's you, so figure it out. Lo and behold, like, two rogue tickets on Ticketmaster. Like, in a suite, like, you could just buy seats, and it's like, suite.
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I don't know. Yes, I guess. I guess people stadium, I guess.
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No, but it's also, like, whoever owns a suite, like, they can, like, sell ticks. Sell ticks if they only need whatever. I was like, oh, parje. It was an amazing suite. We went, like. And we got there, and it was empty. I was like, well, obviously, people are gonna come halfway through the first quarter, no one's there, and I'm like, oh, my God. Like, did we literally get our own suite? Five minutes later? I'm like, I'm wearing Ruby in the bouncer. So another bouncer, the carrier. So I'm like, bouncing him around. The door opens and, like, literally, a school bus had just dropped off a group of religious young Jewish kids. Like, they all came running in with their yarmuls. And I was like, no way. And, like, four or five parents, like chaperones, we were literally in, and they. And of course we got to chatting. It was their suite, and they were, like, selling some tickets, and they were like, we actually had brought in kosher food, but they took it at security, even though we had prior authorization. I'm like, are you telling me that we would have showed up to this Sweet. And it would have been fully catered kosher? And he was like, yeah, but we had, like, logistical issues with the security downstairs. It was so, like, kismet and freaky. Like, it was. It was amazing. Of course. Lovely people. You know, we all got along swimmingly. They were rooting for the Knicks, thank God.
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Oh, I was gonna say, are you feeling like moving to Philly?
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Oh, no.
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Even though attached in a kinship.
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B
No, not at all. But, you know, Philly people have a certain reputation of being just awful. And I have to say, some of the nicest people, I guess when you just are with a baby, like, people are nice to you, but every single person. Ruby's new thing is he goes like this. Like, he wants to touch everyone's hand. So he puts his hand out, and everybody was, like, giving him high fives and stuff. And, you know, he was wearing a big Knicks hat, Nick's jersey. And they all were so nice to him. Even though I kind of felt bad, like, the empath in me. It was, like, technically a home game for Philly, and there was, like, three Philly fans there. Like, it was when they were turning the lights off and, like, announcing the players. People were booing the Philadelphia players in their own stadium.
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Who won? Was that the fourth and final?
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Oh, fourth and final. Sweet. It was a great game to be at. We went on to the next round.
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A
Oh, exciting. Who do they play next?
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It's still playing. They're like, they are figuring it out, but Ben says it's going to be either the Cleveland Cavaliers or the Detroit Pistons.
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I'm rooting for the King Charles Cavaliers. I know you are, and that's exciting for Kylie and Timothy. It means more spottings.
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B
And I almost, almost didn't get, like, the headphones that you're supposed to put on kids. Like, I just figured, like, he's one. Like, whatever. Oh, my God. It was so loud and I was paranoid. I was texting Chat. I was like, I have these headphones. Like, I'm paranoid. They're like, yeah, you should be. You got like, the shittiest pair and they're not. So there I am, like, bouncing him in the hallway. Like, no, I didn't. But I wasn't even being cardboard. I thought of it last minute. I got an instacart from Walmart. I was, like, grateful to have gotten them.
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Yeah.
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And Chat was like, yeah, you're a bad mom and this is a piece of. And like, you should leave. And I was like, wait, really? No. They were like, it's fine, but, like, take quiet break. So I was like, going out into the hallway. Like, I was really paranoid. I'm sure it was fine.
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A
I'm sure it was fine, but it is nerve wracking. I felt that way at Disney on Ice. But, like, I'm sure.
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B
Yeah, no, Disney on Ice was quiet compared to this.
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A
Like, it was in the front row. We were right.
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B
I feel like it's. I feel like it's actually quieter in the front row than, like, the big speakers up top. So it was a roller coaster of emotions of a weekend. Highs, lows. But all in all, oh, and Ben very much understood the assignment when it comes to your gift gifts.
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A
And you know what? When you. When you shared the gift that he got you, I remembered that he did tell me, and it passed muster. So I didn't harp on it.
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B
I was obviously expecting, like, a Birkin. And the bag was small, so I was. The box was smaller, but it is in here. Yeah, right? Maybe they have a new mini Birkin. And I was like, oh, okay, so it's not a Birkin. And I didn't recognize, like, the wrapping or anything. Sometimes cardia, you know, they do, like, the white paper.
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A
I was like, hermes, too.
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B
Yeah, right. So I'm like, what is this? And it was actually even better. Like, I'm such a brat, me, like, wanting a Birkin. This was so much better. He had me a bracelet made with diamonds and rubies. I don't know how I didn't even think of that. Like, duh. It was so obvious. Now I am having some changes made to the bracelet, but all in all, it was a perfect gift. Yeah, the thought counted and it was a beautiful thought. What did you get? I didn't even talk to you all weekend.
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A
Oh, I got a really cute pair of Pradder flats and made even more special because, like, Zach went to the mall with Harry, and he knows that my favorite color is pink. So they're, like, pink flats. You just. They're the sort of pink that, like, a child would be, like, Pink.
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B
Oh, are they fog?
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A
No, no, no, they're not. I. I do. I never saw these flats before, so now I want to see what other colors they come in before I, like, commit to this pair. But, like, they're the sort of. Like, I would once I find my pair and make sure that they're the right size, like, I'm going to wear them every day. So they really slayed. But I. I might just want to tinker with it.
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B
What is the, like, rule on returning a gift that, like, your baby picked out for you?
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A
I think he just would want me to be, like, happy and wear that.
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B
Of course. Of course. So I. I'm fine with that.
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A
And what if. I wonder if I can take him to the return and, like, make and be, like, a whole experience?
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B
Buy him a pair. Oh, magic.
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A
Yeah. But no, it was like. I know. I knew that that got that color because, like, hearts was, like, Mom's favorite color is pink. It has to be.
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B
That's really cute.
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A
So cute. And they're really cute shoes, too. And I haven't seen them yet. They're new this season. Prater.
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B
Okay. Style icon. Hearts.
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A
Hearts. But no, it's a great, great weekend. Mother's Day. Isn't it a fun one?
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B
Oh, my God, it's so special. And, like, so special.
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A
Everything is just, like, such. I woke up and I'm like, it's Mother's Day. Like, everything special. Yeah. Like, everyone, come give mommy your kisses. And they're just, like, special Mother's Day kisses.
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B
And I guess because it's, like, such a corporate holiday that, like, you know, everyone in the streets is saying, happy mother if they see you with a stroller or whatever. They're like, happy Mother's Day. So it's like, on your birthday, people on the street don't know that it's your birthday. You get even more. Like, we went on this nature hike, and, like, every person we pass, they were like, happy Mother's Day. Like, I felt so. Honestly.
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Yeah, that's. That's really, like, a lot.
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B
I mean, I saw a lot of people. I feel like you maybe didn't interface with as many people as I did.
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A
No, no. That strangers walking on a hike wish you happy Mother's Day. That's, like, very kind. That's a lot of kindness.
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B
I mean, think about it. I have a stroller.
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A
Yeah.
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B
It's a Sunday morning of Mother's Day and like, you know when you pass someone like, who goes the opposite direction of you, you give like a nod or you know, good job is I guess you. Yeah. You say good. Happy Mother's Day.
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A
Yeah, I guess so. That's very kind.
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B
It was really a banner. I had to wait a long time for my first Mother's Day.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Cuz Ruby was born like three days after last year's. So I waited a whole. He's already turning one the same week of Mother's Day, which is like literally so crazy. So it felt like I kind of got two dat. Two Mother's Days in one.
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A
Honestly, it was a big first one.
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B
Absolutely. I may they all be that big. Honestly.
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A
No, honestly, they keep getting better. Like it, it's. It never stops being cool, like, and fun and so good.
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B
Good.
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A
And like kids get so into it and then they're writing cards and it was just really cute. Everyone was just all hopped up.
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B
Oh, good. I didn't know if it was like, only special because it was my first.
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A
No, I think it gets more and more special as your kids get bigger and they can really do for you, you know?
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B
Right. And they have more of an understanding of like, why we're respecting and appreciating mama today especially.
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A
Yeah, yeah. It's just getting better. Better.
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B
What else did you do this weekend?
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A
Oh, I had such a cozy weekend, like mostly at home with Maxi Max. She. We needed to rub faces. You know, that's what I like to do. That's what I like to do on the weekends is rub skin to skin. Rub makeup free faces with Maxi. Because during medical term.
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B
Medical term for skin to skin.
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A
No, but we could do skin to skin during the week, but not face to face when I'm wearing makeup.
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B
No, I get it. I get it. Because like the second you put your makeup on, it's like you can't be an involved mother.
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A
I can't rub faces.
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B
Yeah, I know.
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A
And I. Or I have to wait till like after I take my makeup up so the afternoon, but I want to rub faces in the morning.
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B
I find it shocking that you are like comfortable with rubbing faces even with your kids. Like, you're so like, don't touch my face.
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A
Oh.
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B
Like, maybe you just reserve that sort of hostile energy for me though, for
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A
the rest of the world, but for my children. No, it's open.
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B
It's.
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A
There's like, don't I feel like one
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B
of your surrogate children, though. Like, let's rub faces.
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A
That's actually the idea. No, but even, like, just other individuals. I don't want to, like. Yeah, don't touch my face.
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B
My children, strangers.
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A
My children, even me. I don't touch, like, my own face.
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B
Jax, we're seeing each other this weekend.
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A
I know. Dear media by night.
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B
Dear meteor, IRL by night. We're having a. We have to, like, sort of prep. We haven't really. We haven't chat. Are you staying with me?
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A
Yeah, you asked me yesterday.
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B
I got to prep the guest room. We have to sort of prep. Like we're putting on a show.
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A
Yeah, we have prepped. And we're also improv, so there's only so much we could do.
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B
It's an improv show.
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A
Yeah, it's an improv show at Webster hall. So, yeah, I am coming. The big city.
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B
Are you nervous? Bright lights, big city.
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A
Yeah, I'm really nervous.
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B
From the big city.
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A
Like, small town.
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B
Mom's home from the big city.
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A
Small town girl in the big city. Three bucks. Two bags, one. One.
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B
Jax.
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A
Yeah?
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B
Three bucks. We'll make that TikTok when you get here.
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A
Okay, sounds good.
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B
Two bags, one me. What else? Oh, I guess we feel like Dilly dally. There's a lot of news. Jen Fessler taking over the weekend.
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A
There's a lot of news. I think, like, some of the stories that you would think would be in the fast five will probably get pushed to tomorrow because there's a lot, weirdly.
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B
That's good.
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A
Yeah, it is good. So I guess we could get into everything if that's all on the weekend. Okay.
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B
I guess. Yeah, I'm okay with that.
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A
So, without further ado, Da do da do. It is time for the Fast 5 stories that you do need to know.
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B
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A
Yeah, we bring that tote everywhere to the playground. We like load it up every day with like snacks, snacks and drinks. And if things spill it, like it's, it has holes and it's like waterproof. It's like scuba material. So yeah, just wicks right off. Also, their new Mesa tumblers. Have you been drinking out of them? They're. It's like magic. I made Zach try mine because it's like the water is all the way at the bottom of the tumbler, but the way that the technology is, it feels like it's at the tippy top. You don't have to like throw your head back trying to get the rest. I'm obsessed with that new mace or tumbler.
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B
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A
Thank you, Tortor.
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B
You're welcome, Jordan.
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A
Our first story, Summer House star Sierra Miller accuses Wes Wilson of sleeping with Real Housewives of New Jersey alum Jen Fessler. So this sort of took over the Internet this weekend.
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B
Did you watch Tea by the Sea?
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A
No, I didn't watch Tea by the Sea. What does he have to do with it?
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B
Jen Fissler? Like, he just gave his take. It was honestly one of his best episodes of Tea by the Sea. I was cracking.
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A
Wait, but, like. But he doesn't have any particular vested interest?
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B
No, he likes to update his followers who, like, don't know what the saga is. And, like, I guess Venita made, like, a statement because she's, like, always inserting herself, and he was like. And then this Vanita, like, the way he told the story was hysterical.
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A
Okay, so first it started on, I guess, like, Friday night when someone posted on Threads a statement that Jen Fessler had made.
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B
Oh, just. Can we pause and talk quickly about how, like, Threads has weirdly been, like, an active KJ from Summer House just, like, went viral on threads for talking about. And it's like, why are people on threads? I didn't realize that things were. I thought it was shut down, like, for real.
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A
Yeah, I don't know why people are on threads. And I guess, like, when I see the screenshots of threads, I. It doesn't look like a tweet. I. It kind of looks like a Tumblr. I don't. I don't really. I don't really process, like, where this is coming from. I'm just like, oh, I guess someone's phone is formatted different from mine.
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B
Yeah, but, like, a lot of Summer House cast members are, like, on threads. I wonder if they have, like, a partnership with Instagram. Like, it's so random. No one's using threads, are they? Is there stuff going on on threads that I don't know about?
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A
I don't know. Sometimes I get, like, serve stuff where it's like, read the rest of this thread on Threads. And it's like, oh, I'd like to read the rest of that. But I'm not downloading.
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B
But I'm not downloading threads.
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A
Right. So here's what happened. Someone posted on Fred, former Real Houses of New Jersey friend of Jen Fessler, was asked by page 6 about the summer House scandal tonight. And Said this about West. West is the cutest, sweetest, golden, golden retriever, puppy dog. He does not mean any harm. He didn't mean it. He's just trying to have a good time. He doesn't want to hurt anyone. Give him a break. Then Sierra replied, saying, lol, because they slept together too. Okay, let me tell you, nuts.
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B
I mean, it's shocking, especially because Sierra, like, really hasn't been slinging mud like everybody else. Like, she sort of remained above. She, like, she's just taking every opportunity and becoming a socialite and, like, she's gonna, you know, star out of this show. She hasn't been, like, in the weeds, like, getting involved. So I feel like if she's gonna say something, like, she's not saying something that's not true. Like, she's not lowering herself to, like, start, like, lying.
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A
So here's what happens in. So then the someone wrote back, like, ma', am, I beg your pardon, Ain't that old lady married O type. And then CR Replied, that's what I thought, alongside a cartwheel emoji. Then this sort of took off like wildfire. And Jen Fessler put out a statement.
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B
Wait, before Jen Fessler put out a statement, a video of west and Jed Fessler.
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A
Yes.
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B
Resurfaced. I guess at the time, nobody thought it was weird, but they were just like, Bravo liberties, like, going out and being drunk together. They were just like.
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A
And here's what's the message is we need to normalize things being weird at the time. You know what I mean?
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B
Agreed. We need to normalize calling people out for being weird at the time.
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A
Like, what were Jen Fessler and Wes Wilson doing? Like, drunk getting people.
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B
They were probably at, like, a Bravo event and then went out after it,
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A
and the audience was, like, living for it, thinking it's like Avengers, like a collaboration of the cinematic universe. And it's like, no, that's weird.
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B
And then this morning, I had seen that there was also a podcast clip from, like, a very random podcast. And I don't know who these people are at all, but, like, it was from, like, months ago, talking about how, like, this one of the hosts knows for sure that west had slept with a housewife. And he won't say who it was, but it was definitely East Coast. And then the other co host goes, well, it's definitely Jersey, because, like, your friend was with all the Jersey girls. So there is, like, circumstantial evidence
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A
posted. Like, something about someone overhearing in a bar in Bozeman.
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B
Oh, wait, I'm sorry, I don't know this. Oh, my God. Bozeman, Montana.
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A
And, yeah, that west was in Montana. Like, this is old tea. That now makes more sense, I guess. Let me find it. Exactly.
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B
One thing about Dumois is, like, she's gonna go into the archive and find the hint that made no sense.
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A
It says, but last summer, I was in a bar in Bozeman, Montana, and literally overheard him talking to two other guys and a girl about hooking up with an old chick named Jenny who gave him the most unreal. And I think it's. It's blurred up. Yeah, it's a bj. Oh, in Vegas, but was super up when it happened. Then Dumois also posted a clip of Jesse and West on Watch what Happens Live. But wait, I haven't seen this clip. I saw a different clip of Jen Fessler and Jackie Goldschneider. And Watch what Happens Live when they were asked, like, who's your Bravo hall pass? And Jen, like, jokingly responds, and as Jen is saying, Evan Goldschneider, because Jackie's right there, so it's funny.
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B
Oh, that's funny.
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A
Jackie Goldschner says, Wes for Jen. Oh.
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B
And then, like, one of her old Instagram captions resurfaced with, like, her and her husband being like, you're the West Wilson hall pass to my. Something like, hold on, let me find it.
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A
No, I saw one that was, like, you know, no matter how many affairs you have with guys or girls, like, I'm always yours. So it's giving, like, open marriage.
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B
Okay, hold on. So, Jen Fessler,
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A
I want to see what this clip of west and Jesse was. Can I play it?
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B
Yeah, put it on. There's so much con.
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A
Like, all these crumbs. And then I want to read her statement, because I also find it very compelling. Okay, I'm gonna play the clip. Roll the tape.
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B
Yep. Older gal. Well, not like. Not like dating. Well, have you ever been with an older gal? Yeah, it's actually. Yeah, one's kind of steep. What the. Yeah, the ages. It was, like, one time thing. Okay. How old was she? Say she was very old. How old was she? Was she over 50? Yeah. Was she over 60? No, not over 60, but, like a high five. Okay, High fives.
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A
High five.
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B
Was that it? Was that a pleasurable thing for you? That was weird.
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A
It was weird.
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B
But that's, like, what makes. That's, like, what is pleasurable. Okay.
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A
I actually saw that when it happened, and never.
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B
She's 57.
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A
Okay.
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B
And I just want to say that's like so disrespectful. Like, I can't believe that, like this was everyone's crush. Like, you know what I mean? Like, this is a person who literally hates women. It's weird. And why? Because she's 57. Jeff Fessler's not ugly. She's not like a circus freak. She's like a very normal, probably good looking, 57 year old woman. It's like, yeah, it was freaky and weird and that's why I liked it. Like, you're disgusting, you're freaky. I saw your new pictures. You're freaky looking.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And the Instagram caption that's been resurfaced is an old picture from her wedding with her husband. And the caption was happy 27. You could sleep with west or Amanda
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A
and I'd still say, wait, when, when did she write that?
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B
Oh, April 10th. So post like ski mandible. Okay, that's. And then like a funny caption.
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A
Agreed. Yeah, that's what I meant. Like guys or girls. And I still. Yeah, right. Okay, so we saw the same thing. It's. And that also sort of makes me feel like she didn't sleep with him. Or else, like, why would she be saying that? Now here is her statement about this rumor that obviously took the Internet by sore. Everyone's piecing together these breadcrumbs. She said, in all seriousness, and while I can't help but be a little flowered flattered, it is not nice, nor is it okay to post something categorically untrue and defamatory on social media, regardless of whatever rumors or apparent evidence led you to that conclusion. That is the definition of libel. If it were true, I would have no recourse because it's a lie. This can get more complicated. Having said that, I hope we can rectify this. It's enough now.
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B
Okay, so it's giving like legal language, it's giving season desists. You know, I am so confused because I think her statement and then like her social media activity really is that of a person who's telling the truth.
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A
I agree.
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B
But there is so much. Like we just said the clip, the capture, like there is so much. It's not proof, but it's very leading media.
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A
Yeah, well, when I remember seeing that west clip and I just assumed it was like some older woman when he was younger, like, you know, like a random thing, I never thought it was a housewife. And like, or Jen, certainly not like a married one. So that to me, yeah, sure, he's been with an older woman. That doesn't mean it's Jen Fessler. So that's not that compelling, Right? Why? I mean, maybe they've always had like a little cute thing where it's like a joke that she thinks he's cute. That's why Jackie Goldschneider said it. But I don't think that they slept together because I don't think she would put out a statement like this. And I don't know why I'm going to take her at her word, but she just seems like, I don't know, she's like, like a serious person. Like, if she's saying it didn't happen, of course, you know, like dangling legal action, I think she means it.
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B
I agree. Except I don't see a world in which Sierra says this unless she knows it's 100% true. Like, there are so many conflicting things. Like, I just, My gut is to believe Jen Fessler because I think what she's saying sounds like she's taking it well and like, haha. But like, seriously, stop. Like, it's a good approach, but I can't imagine why Sierra, who has remained relatively uninvolved in all the drama and is just sort of reaping the benefits from the scandal. I can't imagine why the one time she, like, you know, debases herself into talking about this, she would, like, just say a. Like a false verb.
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A
Maybe she thinks it's true. Like, maybe they did, maybe they did. Like, maybe there was things that she saw that makes her think that they slept together and so she just like, threw it out there in like a not serious manner.
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B
I just want to say whether or not this is true, I just want to reiterate that I think West Wilson is like, so disgusting. Like, even that clip, which I hadn't seen until this moment, like, who talks about a person they slept with like that? Like, just. He's seriously one of the most misogynistic, disgusting, and I can't believe everybody, like, dies for him. And like, people are like, yeah, it's still smash. Like, I would seriously rather sleep with every. Why are you sleeping with anyone? I'm like, what am I talking about? But you know what I mean, you're not.
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A
No one's asking you to sleep.
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B
I know. I'm just saying, like, girls, women of the world, like, go out and sleep with like, a fat nerd. Like, seriously, he'll be nice to you. I can't believe, like, this is everyone's king. Do you know what I mean? He's short, he's not even conventionally attractive. And he's so rude.
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A
Yeah. But I also want to say, if they. If he was talking about Jen Fessler, that was a couple years ago. I would imagine she saw that, and she still has nice things to say about him. So I feel like maybe it wasn't her.
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B
Right, right, right. Even though high 50s, like, literally 57.
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A
There's millions of high 50.
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B
There's mine around West.
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A
No, but, like, I. I just.
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B
20.
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A
I don't know why that clip was from a while ago. I thought it was from, like, pre fame.
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B
Wait, what clip is pre Fame? He's on Watch it up and slide.
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A
But it's an old, like, from his first season or second season.
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B
He's still famous, and he's probably still going to Bravo Con. And by the way, it's more likely that they had sex before he was, like, majorly famous. Because, you know, I don't know. I just feel like it's more likely. I just want to say, I want to go on record thinking I do think it's true.
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A
Oh, I want to go on record. I don't think it's true. But that's classic me. Like, I just can't believe some people are capable of certain things. That's why it's not that I'm like, yeah, I couldn't believe West Mandible because I could not believe a person could be so stupid. Like, I genuinely. I have faith in humanity. That's why I didn't believe it.
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B
And it's just like, amanda, that's your boyfriend. Like, that's the craziest part. Like, that's Amanda's boy.
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A
Yeah. He was also spotted. TMZ said he was spotted chopping it
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B
up at a wedding in, like, New York City.
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A
And Gen Z intern, he was also went to a wedding this weekend. Apparently, his plus one was rescinded, which I also think is illusory. Like, wouldn't that be, like, his random home friend? Like, that's your friend. Like, let him bring his girlfriend.
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B
Agreed.
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A
People don't know how to act. Like, people don't know when to be mad and, like, how to, like, hold their friends accountable. You know what I mean? They just don't know how to act. Everyone's just such a follower. Like, if Wes is your friend and you're inviting him to your wedding and, like, everybody's getting a plus one and he had a plus one. Like, let him bring a plus one. You don't know these people.
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B
I agree. But also, like, how would TMZ know That, like, the bride and groom rescinded his plus one. You know, maybe, like, Amanda just didn't want to go.
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A
Yeah, well, she should have gone.
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B
Yeah. And they are, like, moving forward, full steam ahead, public relationship. Like, they just. I think they. They are taking the route of, like, the only way out is through, and, like, you just have to. So, okay, you go to the wedding. But maybe, like, she's had enough.
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A
Yeah. I also, like, I just can't. I mean, we've said this before, but, like, there's no way they're having fun. Like, I think. I think it was, like, fun, like, you know, crushing on Amanda when she was, like, the most popular girl in the world. Like, how cool is that? Like, every season.
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B
I mean, do you know that video that he posted of her, like, doing the Macarena?
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A
No.
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B
What?
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A
I don't think so.
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B
It was posted, like, now we know during their, like, whirlwind romance time. But, like, at the time, everybody was like, oh, they're best friends. You don't know that Macarena video.
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A
Hold on. I don't know the Macarena video.
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B
And Wes posted it on his Instagram. Amanda Batula dancing video. I can't believe you don't know this video. She's, like, wearing a crop top. It's, like, started the whole thing. Hold on.
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A
Is it still there?
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B
It definitely is. I don't know if he posts a lot. It's from, like, a few months ago.
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A
Oh, also, some breaking news.
- [40:53]
B
What?
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A
Nothing major. Some. Sierra joins Love Island USA as the after sun co host.
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B
Oh, I thought she was replacing not the After Sun. Right.
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A
Who was the co host of after sun last year? Maura.
- [41:09]
B
Oh, yeah.
- [41:09]
A
Yeah.
- [41:10]
B
Does anybody watch After Sun? Like, those episodes? Those episodes are some of my least favorite.
- [41:15]
A
Like, I've never watched one. And then, like, someone goes on after sun and, like, says something that's supposed to be, like, relevant to the conversation. I'm like, but it happened on after sun, so.
- [41:21]
B
So I unfortunately, physically can't watch it. That's sad.
- [41:26]
A
As if, like, Love island isn't enough content. A week. It's literally daily six days a week, an hour plus episodes. And you're giving us After Sun. Like, give us a day off, you know, on the seventh day. Let us rest.
- [41:38]
B
Let us rest. I don't see the video, but it was, like, them in a bar, and she's, like, doing the Macarena.
- [41:44]
A
That's really cool.
- [41:45]
B
She's so cool.
- [41:48]
A
The Macarena is really cool.
- [41:50]
B
It's like wearing a crop top. It's like the most.
- [41:52]
A
Okay, moving on. What I was saying was it was definitely like fun being like in a tryst with Amanda, like crushing on her when she was the most popular girl in the world even last summer. You know, just like every room she walks into, it's like she doesn't have to try. And everyone's like, man.
- [42:07]
B
Yeah. No, and she literally wears like technically
- [42:10]
A
ants and a bra and it's like Amanda style icon. No.
- [42:14]
B
And like she was in a situation like she couldn't be his girlfriend. So it's like the, the sort of forbidden element of it makes it very sexy. And now there's just like miseries to like uncool unpopular.
- [42:30]
A
So, you know, let's see if they want to stay together, they have to.
- [42:34]
B
They need to go to the Nicolandrea school of dedication and they need to commit to the bit.
- [42:41]
A
Agree.
- [42:41]
B
That should be on their. They should have a picture of Nickelandria on their fridge, on their front door, in their wallets. Like that is who you are emulating.
- [42:51]
A
Yeah, agree.
- [42:52]
B
Because the way they've committed to the fraudulent relationship.
- [42:57]
A
So you're believing that they slept together. That's where we're coming.
- [43:03]
B
I'm getting, I'm getting swept up in like the, in the Internet. Yeah, that sounds embarrassing. That video is the most embarrassing part of this whole thing.
- [43:13]
A
I agree it was hard to watch,
- [43:14]
B
but like, and it's like you have, you literally have kids. West Sage.
- [43:17]
A
It was hard to watch, but if you watched it when it came out
- [43:23]
B
and you thought it was like, oh my faves. Look at my faves.
- [43:25]
A
Crossover.
- [43:26]
B
Yeah, crossover.
- [43:27]
A
The year I didn't watch it when it came out. And I would hope that if I had, I'd say that feels weird.
- [43:34]
B
Does nobody think this is weird? Yeah.
- [43:36]
A
Yeah. Our next story. Are you ready for our next story? Some really sweet news. Olivia Culpo announced that she is pregnant and expecting baby number two with her husband Christian McCaffrey. So Olivia Cobalt celebrated her 34th birthday and then she just sort of dropped on us that baby number two is coming soon. And she posted a bunch of photos of her been pregnant and now it's just like when, how soon? Yeah, like it's not your typical announcement. It doesn't feel like, you know, end of first trimester. It feels right. Imminent.
- [44:07]
B
I'm just guessing like she's giving like 20 to 24 weeks.
- [44:14]
A
Yeah, but it's coming to guess but like if 2020. But you wouldn't say coming soon. You'd say like coming this summer. Coming this Fall.
- [44:21]
B
Yeah, she likes to keep everyone on our toes. I'm annoying.
- [44:24]
A
I just want, you know, like, that really got me on my toes, and I wasn't expecting it.
- [44:28]
B
I know, but she's not, like, nine months pregnant. You can tell, like, just physically. Unless she's, like, one of those girls, you know?
- [44:34]
A
I know. I'm just saying, like, it was giving that thing that it's. It's leaving space for that.
- [44:40]
B
Well, not to make everything about myself, but, like, Olivia Culpo and Lauren Elena, like, are my sisters in pregnancy. And so, like, the fact that Olivia Culpo is, like, moving forward with her next pregnancy, like, it. The pressure is on, like, not to make everything about me, but I saw this and I was like. I was kind of devastated. I was like, oh, my God.
- [44:55]
A
Yeah.
- [44:56]
B
What does this mean? What does this mean?
- [44:58]
A
Fraternity.
- [44:59]
B
Yeah.
- [44:59]
A
Yeah. Did you reach out to your sister?
- [45:02]
B
Of course I did.
- [45:03]
A
I'm so happy for her.
- [45:04]
B
I love her. Like, and then I went to her Instagram to stalk, and she has, like, three pinned posts. The first is her engagement first. Second is the wedding, and then the third is a pregnancy. And I was looking through her wedding pictures. Like, I forget. Remember all that drama about her wedding dress and, like, Christian McCaffrey, like, literally leaving hate comments on the. On the commenters. Like, I love them.
- [45:22]
A
I love it.
- [45:23]
B
And then I look at the dress and it is so objectively beautiful again,
- [45:27]
A
even though I agree.
- [45:27]
B
I can't believe. And I see some girls wearing. I'm sorry, the ugliest, like, Danielle Frankel wedding dresses that are so trendy and, like, miss me with that. This is the dress that sent the Internet into a tailspin. It couldn't be more traditionally beautiful.
- [45:42]
A
She's so cute.
- [45:43]
B
You see it?
- [45:44]
A
Yeah, Everything.
- [45:45]
B
It's long sleeve satin shoulder pads. Like, the root of all evil.
- [45:51]
A
That's her. That's her announcement post. And, like, beautiful pictures.
- [45:55]
B
The root of all evil is jealousy. Like, that's what we need to be reminding ourselves of constantly, by the way.
- [46:01]
A
So when we were talking about this, how, like, why can't you be jealous? Positive. Why do you have to be, like, jealous, ugly, negative wench? I think negative jealousy is envy. Envy is the root of all evil.
- [46:11]
B
Because, like, let me be clear. I am positive jealous of Olivia right now.
- [46:14]
A
I'm positive jealous of so many things.
- [46:16]
B
I am positive jealous of fudgeing everyone. Sometimes I do teeter on, like, on. On envy. I'm not gonna lie.
- [46:22]
A
No, don't catch me being envious. I'm a positive jealous Person, like, positive
- [46:27]
B
jealousy is the energy we're bringing into the future. Like, yes. It's a yes.
- [46:33]
A
Yeah. Oh, also, what was, like, so cute about Olivier is earlier this week, she commented on our Instagram reel about having, like, no ambition since motherhood.
- [46:43]
B
Oh, I forgot to tell you some major news.
- [46:45]
A
Oh, okay. You got it.
- [46:47]
B
Okay. I got what ambition back? No, I. But I had enough ambition over the weekend to make a tick tock using my real Actives, which I used and really enjoyed. And I made a tick tock just like doing my skincare in silence. And then the sound on top of it was our clip of you saying, like, you. You had a field day with real activities when I saw this name and Alex Earl commented and reposted it. And her comment was, oh, brb. Gotta use this sound. We're gonna go viral again. Because she said, yeah, she's gonna use the sound. I haven't seen it yet, but she said she's gonna use it. Yeah. So she reposted. I know you guys probably saw me over the weekend on Alex Earl's tick Tock. Did you say yeah.
- [47:24]
A
Oh, my gosh. Wait, let me go on my iPad and check it out.
- [47:28]
B
Wait, if.
- [47:28]
A
Oh, no, I don't even have a tick tock downloaded and then I don't even know it was my login. But I do want to see.
- [47:32]
B
When I see you this weekend, you can SC.
- [47:35]
A
Phone like a toddler or send it to Zach.
- [47:37]
B
Okay, yeah, I'll send it to Zach.
- [47:39]
A
That's pretty cool.
- [47:40]
B
Yeah. Big, big moment for us.
- [47:42]
A
I've been loving my balm. I still didn't buy new makeup wipes. I've been using my balm.
- [47:46]
B
You know what? I used the bomb over the weekend. It was. It was pargy.
- [47:50]
A
It was bomb.
- [47:51]
B
It's hard though, because, like, I like using a makeup wipe. It doesn't get my hair wet. And if, like, if I am using a bomb, then, like, my hair gets
- [47:57]
A
wet in the shower.
- [47:59]
B
No, at the sink.
- [48:00]
A
I couldn't use a balm at the sink. I couldn't.
- [48:02]
B
It's like, oh, my God.
- [48:03]
A
The counter is like my shirt, my elbows.
- [48:07]
B
It's true.
- [48:08]
A
I use a balm in the shower.
- [48:10]
B
Boom.
- [48:11]
A
The ball.
- [48:11]
B
Did you buy your ball, Mutt Stob call back.
- [48:17]
A
No, I brought it@realactives.org data work.
- [48:22]
B
Real Activist's website should be a.org because they're a non for profit with their repost of me. It's true.
- [48:29]
A
Okay, next story. I feel like. Oh, my. Oh, yeah, Nowhere. Okay, next story. Number Three, Savannah Guthrie is officially moving at in a new career move. She's the host of the new wordle game show.
- [48:41]
B
Okay. That's not where I thought you were going with, like, Savannah Guthrie. I thought maybe there was an update on her. No, missing.
- [48:47]
A
She was back at work and you know, things. Nothing's really come out. She. A couple days, she like, kind of like left set.
- [48:53]
B
I saw she left in the middle of the show. She walked offset.
- [48:55]
A
She's taking on new projects as the host of the new wordle game show.
- [49:00]
B
I always. Every now and then I remember wordle and I'm like, let me do that.
- [49:05]
A
She made the announcement alongside Jimmy Fallon, who's the project's executive producer.
- [49:11]
B
I feel like we talked about this so long ago. They took way too long. Wordle still has, like, a big following, but, like, the virality. I remember some. The New York Times bought it instantly. They were turning it into a game show really fast. And then it never came out. And I feel like they sort of like, missed the boat.
- [49:25]
A
Yeah. It will start filming this summer. So if you are like a wordle expert, you should go on.
- [49:31]
B
I'm actually pretty good at wordle.
- [49:33]
A
Really?
- [49:35]
B
Yeah.
- [49:35]
A
I haven't played since the minute I gave birth to Harry. I never played again.
- [49:40]
B
Wow.
- [49:41]
A
Yeah, that's when we were playing. Feb 2022.
- [49:46]
B
I love. What word do you start with? Like when you. But I know you don't do it anymore. But every now and then I always start with the same word.
- [49:52]
A
I forget I had a good first word.
- [49:55]
B
I always start with great.
- [49:56]
A
Oh, that's good.
- [49:57]
B
Two vowels, G and R, R, T. Excuse me. Are like classics.
- [50:01]
A
Someone will remember what I used to start with because we, like, used to talk about, like, that wordle.
- [50:06]
B
Like that there was a time for that. I don't know. I. I actually think it's a good game for a game show.
- [50:11]
A
Yeah.
- [50:11]
B
And they make game shows out of the dumbest these days.
- [50:13]
A
Yeah. And there's like, who remembers the wall? There's plenty of space for game shows. You know, like, they seem to be, like, low cost and everybody loves them.
- [50:22]
B
And I feel like they have a hard time, like, becoming popular. There's so many game shows that, like, come and go. I love game shows. It's like one of my favorite genres of television. I'm actively subscribed to the game show network gsn and they got the most random over there. They make jizzen. They make a game show out of everything. So I would like for game shows to become popular again.
- [50:43]
A
Yeah, well, you'd have to go on Family Feud watching them. You'd have to start watching them.
- [50:48]
B
I do. Did you not hear me just say I have an active subscription to gsn?
- [50:51]
A
But what do you watch other than, like, Jeopardy?
- [50:54]
B
Oh, okay. Jeopardy's not even on gsn. Wow.
- [50:56]
A
Showing how little you know. Yeah, I watch as a. What game shows do you watch other than Jeopardy?
- [51:01]
B
Family Feud.
- [51:03]
A
Okay.
- [51:05]
B
Celebrity Family Feud.
- [51:06]
A
Okay.
- [51:07]
B
Which we absolutely need to go on. What else do I watch? There's a lot of, like, generic game shows on GSN like, that don't have names, but, like, it's like, it's hosted by the guy who does the Pitch Perfect, the MC with Elizabeth Banks. You know that other guy?
- [51:24]
A
Yeah, he record.
- [51:25]
B
He literally is a host of 10, 000 game shows on game show. People magazine has a game show, like, with their crossword, which I'm pretty good at, Tom. I feel like it's like, Dan.
- [51:33]
A
You think it's Dan?
- [51:34]
B
No, I think it's Steve.
- [51:35]
A
I think it's Tom. Let's look it up. Pitch. Oh, Steve.
- [51:40]
B
Or like, Andy? I don't know. I'm nervous. No, I'm gonna stick with Steve.
- [51:43]
A
Okay, stick with Steve. Where is he?
- [51:49]
B
John?
- [51:50]
A
No, no, I think Steve was a really good guess.
- [51:52]
B
Oh, okay. John.
- [51:55]
A
John Michael Higgins.
- [51:58]
B
Yes, that's his name. Yes, that feels right.
- [52:00]
A
He's a John.
- [52:02]
B
Well, he's also, like, has my dream job where he hosts all these, like, random generic shows on the game show network.
- [52:07]
A
You should shadow him for a day.
- [52:10]
B
That's my dream. Like doing voiceover work and hosting a game show. Not to shadow. It's not my dream. To seal his job.
- [52:17]
A
To shadow John Michael Higgins for a day is your dream.
- [52:21]
B
No, actually, if you can believe it, John Michael Higgins better sleep with one other one eye opener.
- [52:26]
A
You should write to him cold email him and ask if you can chat.
- [52:32]
B
I don't want to. I don't want to write email, and I don't want to shadow.
- [52:35]
A
Did you ever shadow someone?
- [52:38]
B
Oh, I thought you're gonna say, did I ever write anyone an email? I'm like, yeah, did I ever? I don't think so. I've never shadowed someone. I can't imagine anything more boring. Did you?
- [52:46]
A
I once did.
- [52:48]
B
Okay, now you have to tell us who, what, when, where, why, how.
- [52:52]
A
I don't want to share too much, but it was, like, a really
- [52:57]
B
dreadful. What part of it was dreadful?
- [53:01]
A
Like, you know, it's just like, what are you doing? Like, and you're just shadowing.
- [53:04]
B
Oh. And the person you're shadowing, like, does not want you there and you don't want to be there.
- [53:08]
A
Like, president. Like, they're just like, somewhere with, like, an entry level job that, like, you might want one day and, like.
- [53:13]
B
Right.
- [53:14]
A
I think they should cancel that program.
- [53:17]
B
Jackie, I need to know who you shout out.
- [53:18]
A
I'll tell you after. You don't know.
- [53:20]
B
You don't even.
- [53:20]
A
Like, there's nothing to.
- [53:21]
B
So why are you being, like, weird about it?
- [53:23]
A
Just because I haven't thought about it in so long.
- [53:25]
B
But it was just long. We're actually. We're still inside that day. This is.
- [53:32]
A
I don't say because, like, the person did me a solid by letting me shadow them. And so. No, no.
- [53:36]
B
And you want to say person, but, like, what was the cost? Context?
- [53:39]
A
What if they heard this?
- [53:40]
B
They probably felt the same way. Like, that it was just true. Yeah.
- [53:44]
A
Yeah. I don't think that they knew what to do.
- [53:46]
B
What was the context? Were you in college?
- [53:48]
A
I think I was in college. And like, you can, like, get set up with an alum who's, like, working in a field that you would be interested in. You can shout and.
- [53:55]
B
What was the field that you were interested in? Like, media.
- [53:57]
A
Media. Yeah.
- [53:58]
B
Oh, I don't know this story. Who did you shadow?
- [54:01]
A
You don't know them.
- [54:02]
B
What company? Like, what job did that person have?
- [54:04]
A
Okay. They worked at? I'm not telling you because I really would never want them to hear this. I know and know that I had a negative experience.
- [54:12]
B
I think they just assumed you had a negative experience. Like, it's universal. It's ubiquitous. Like, yeah, shadowing is not a positive.
- [54:19]
A
That's the company she worked for, which actually, like, it was pretty good. That's where I should be shadowing.
- [54:24]
B
Oh, wow. Yeah. Who was it?
- [54:26]
A
No one. No one knows. She was just, like, it's actually at
- [54:28]
B
one of our competitors.
- [54:29]
A
Yeah. In the media space. Honestly, I was. I right on track for my life. I was, you know, I knew where I was headed.
- [54:36]
B
Jackie, I'm texting you. I found the video of Amanda Patrola dancing. Like, if you want it. Good.
- [54:40]
A
Yeah. No, I think to close the loop on that and to stop talking about my day of shadowing.
- [54:44]
B
I know. Anything to change the subject, even though I will push more after the episode. Yeah.
- [54:48]
A
And. Oh. Oh, my God.
- [54:50]
B
You've never seen that video?
- [54:51]
A
No.
- [54:52]
B
Okay, so he had posted this to this. No. No one had thought a thing about them before the rumors. Like, but this was when they were clearly, like, falling in love.
- [55:01]
A
Wait, that's really Crazy. And was there a caption?
- [55:04]
B
Yeah, there was. We posted it on Tick Tock. That's why I couldn't find it.
- [55:11]
A
Yeah. This is what I mean.
- [55:13]
B
Like, before, it's important to note that the song she's dancing to is not the Macarena drama. Yeah.
- [55:20]
A
Before Wes Mandeville, like, she just could do the least. And it was like. Like she's wearing.
- [55:24]
B
Yes. Everyone was like this and a ratty
- [55:26]
A
T shirt and like, like marking the Macarena. And she's the coolest girl in the
- [55:30]
B
world, you know, to a song that's not the Macarena.
- [55:33]
A
And now it's like that, you know, she's.
- [55:35]
B
And I think his caption was, like, coolest girl ever. Like, that was the caption.
- [55:40]
A
They're perfect for each other, unfortunately.
- [55:42]
B
It's true.
- [55:43]
A
It's just unfortunate that things played out the way that they did because I think they should be together to bring
- [55:47]
B
it back to your shadowing, which I know you were trying to move away from.
- [55:51]
A
And I just think the thing about the Macarena, there's a very complex.
- [55:56]
B
It's obviously culturally insensitive of her to
- [55:58]
A
be doing it 1,000%.
- [56:00]
B
Yeah. I haven't done the Macarena forever. It's actually a good dance.
- [56:06]
A
It is. One maka, two maka, three Macarena.
- [56:12]
B
They ate with that.
- [56:13]
A
Okay, are you ready for our next story?
- [56:15]
B
What number four? No. Oh, my goodness.
- [56:18]
A
Yeah. I don't think that you are.
- [56:20]
B
Is it our fourth story? That's brought to you by Home Chef?
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A
Thank you. On to Turt.
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B
You're welcome.
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A
Our next story, the girls are fighting. Michaela Matthews and Taylor Frankie Paul got into it over the weekend, starting with Michaela Matthews from Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, firing back over criticism that she hasn't been supporting tailored. So Kayla Matthews wrote like a really long statement on Instagram saying I want to get to the, to the whole statement one second.
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B
And I just, I want to say like a couple of weeks ago, like I made the decision to get off the Taylor Frankie Paul roller coaster. Like I saw all this. I saw her big Mother's Day post. I saw Michaela. I don't really know what's going on? And I like, kind of stopped caring.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Because also, as far as I know, like, Taylor Friggy Paul's not even filming.
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A
Well, I think she might be filming based on what she said, but basically. Okay. Oh my gosh. Okay. It's on a.
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B
You say sorry.
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A
The statement is like on a real.
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B
Like that.
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A
So I live with girls.
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B
You forget, but you never let it go.
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A
So Michaela posted this. If I was knowingly giving myself rashes, I wouldn't be expecting sympathy from anyone online or privately. Imagine someone told me, hey, we know for 100 certainty that if you stopped using this cream, your rashes would go away. Then imagine I continued using that cream while still asking people for sympathy and help.
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B
Okay, I just want to say this is a weird analogy. I know what she's saying because she suffers from like this really terrible chronic illness that she doesn't know why she gets these insane flare ups. So she's trying to like relate it to her story. It's just giving like silly.
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A
I just need to read a little bit of this so that like when I read Taylor's response, like, it's just, just in context. She said, at some points my friends would probably say, we feel sorry for you, but stop using the cream so you can heal. And if I continue to use it over, over again for years, knowing the outcome every single time was the same, it'll eventually get to a point where the people who genuinely care about me can no longer enable me by continuing to give sympathy and support the behavior that is clearly keeping me stuck in an unhealthy cycle that she said.
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B
So basically, Dakota is the cream, right?
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A
Dakota is the cream. Yes. And she continues to like, you know, engage in this unhealthy cycle and know what's bad for her and go back to it and go back to it and go back to it. And so she's comparing it to her rashes and she was also just explaining why she. It's a very long. I didn't even read the whole statement because it's like a lot of words and, and at a certain point, like, I do hit. I am actively staying abreast, but I have my limits.
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B
You right? No, there is salama fatigue and so
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A
yeah, I got the gist. She's saying she's not supporting Taylor because, like Taylor's doing this herself and how. And you know, she's disgusted by what she's seen, blah, blah, blah. So then Taylor posted on Instagram yesterday, it was. Is also unfortunate because she like put it in her Mother's Day post, which I just thought was, like, so unnecessary.
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B
Agreed. It also doesn't help her beat the allegations that she's, like, always putting the drama and everything, like, before her responsibilities as a mother. So, like, your Mother's Day post is about Michaela? Like, yeah.
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A
She said, wait, I need to find exactly the. The thing that she said in response to Michaela. Another one that I didn't read in
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B
full, but the longest caption ever, but got the gist.
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A
I can't deal. I can't deal trying to find all these statements.
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B
Just go to Instagram.
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A
I know, but the part that I'm looking for isn't here. Okay, whatever. This is what she said. It's Mother's Day, so I'll say whatever I want as if it's not already the worst time. I still have friends kicking me while I'm down and calling it setting a boundary, and then blames me for being upset and responding. That's called shaming an attack. While I had a moment to breathe. And she knew that not once have I called myself a victim, But I'm a human. I have breaking points. What a snake friend did to me in public eye. After everything, she just witnessed the lack of empathy and the bruises. Yet she's bringing up picking sides. Yes. Usually you do for friends, you know, go through that. I don't know. And then she said something about, like, comparing my situation to rashes and cream.
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B
And then did you see the final photo in her carousel? No.
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A
One second. On my way. Yeah, the. Oh, the. The tears. Yeah.
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B
Yeah.
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A
I hadn't noticed that.
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B
It's like a selfie with her son. She's sitting in the front seat. Her son is, like, poking out from the back seat. Also not wearing a shirt. Stop posting pictures of your kids without goes on. That's child pornography. And she has, like, mascara running down her face, but she has, like, a smile on for her kid. And it's just like, I hate that.
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A
Yeah, that's so performative. To me, it's performative. And also, it's like, I don't like that message. Like, hold it in. Hold it in. Around your children. Cry your own time.
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B
So to be clear, I, like, do have, like, my take on the situation. It's like a little Michaela Matthews coded. It's like, yeah, at what. What point are we gonna just start, like, having agency over our own lives and making, you know, taking personal accountability and, like, being responsible and making good decisions. But, like, yeah, it is giving, like, a little not empathetic to the fact, like, she's in this terrible situation. But it's like, it's both. Yeah.
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A
I didn't love the cream analogy.
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B
Well, of course. It just sounded stupid too. It did.
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A
It didn't. Obviously not this exact same. Like.
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B
No, because, like, you're not, like, addicted to a cream.
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A
Yeah. And it's not like you think the cream is gonna cure this one thing, but it's also causing something else. She's not just like, like, using a cream that's all bad.
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B
Oh, and you don't have a child with the cream. Like, it's stupid. We're gonna get another Michaela Matthews hate comment.
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A
Oh, for sure. That's okay.
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B
First Jace and now the cream.
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A
I've been hardened.
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B
Yeah, it's true.
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A
No, and I feel like it would have been a better analogy if it's like, there's something about the cream that you love, but it's also hurting you. No.
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B
That's also, like, addictive. Like, because you're addicted to the cream.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Cream has, like, crack in it.
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A
Like, drugs. Like, you're addicted to drugs. And like, if you're a friend with drug addict, maybe.
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B
Okay, it. Yeah, maybe it's like if she was smoking pot. Here's a better analogy. And the pot was giving her rashes, but the pot was also, like, making.
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A
Helping her anxiety.
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B
That's what I mean right there.
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A
It's not just the cream, Beef.
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B
Like, She so stupid.
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A
She also loves the cream and is.
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B
Right, Right. The cream. The cream, the cream. The cream can sometimes be funny. The cream is also. I guess we said the cream is an inanimate object.
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A
The cream, like, is sometimes handsome.
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B
Right. Creams don't have feelings, you know?
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A
No, but, like, creams can't talk sometimes. Sometimes the cream has been there for her, you know, but no one else was.
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B
No, actually, it hasn't. Like, because it's a cream.
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A
She's just, like, not sharing any remotely redeeming qualities about the cream that, like, attracted to.
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B
Right.
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A
That's because it's a cream attracted Taylor to Dakota in the first place.
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B
Like I said, I've gotten off this roller coaster. I can't. With Jesse's, like, voice memo. Everyone's flip flopping all over the place. Like, I seriously can't with this group of individuals. They're so moronic.
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A
Yeah. I do, like, love the show. So I'm trying to stay abreast, like, to a degree that's healthy. And, like, you know, I can't read every single Instagram comment. And I'm not even on TikTok. So I don't even know the half of it. And also, like, for the show, like, here's what's going on. But I have my limits, for sure. And I'm not taking a side in either one of these things. Like, I understand. Like, I imagine if I were Michaela, Yes. I would not want to film with Taylor. I would not want to be associated with Taylor. I probably would have probably felt that way for a lot of years and always would have been, like, punished for having those. Not being a team player. The way that Whitney was when she was like, you know, her hands aren't going to work with us if they think we're all slinging bar stools.
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B
Like. Yeah.
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Because they all knew that that's what she did. So from, like, human perspective, I'm. I get Michaela from, like, the other side of it, where it's like, I don't know them. And it does feel like Taylor's going through, like, seriously the worst a person can go through. Like, I don't feel the need to add on to it. I don't know if she is gonna, like, I just don't know. So. Oh, yeah. That's all.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Our fifth and final story. Jake Shane is getting slammed for asking Casey Musgraves to explain a lyric from one of her songs, slow Burn.
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B
I just know that, like, there is a writer at Variety who, like, went to camp or something with Jake Shane and just hates Jake Shade, because this is now the second time there's been, like, manufactured outrage against Jake Shane. So this is coming from a Variety. It was a Variety article. There was, like, maybe there was, like, a clip going around. It was funny. I, like, everybody knows what Jake Shane meant. Like, he asked Casey masquerades in Slow Burn. There's a lyric that's in. In Beijing, they're headed out to work, and in Tennessee, the sun is going down, basically saying how, like, time is different. And he was like, what did you mean by that? And a lot of people, like, people were passing around the clip, and it was like, obviously he knows that, like, there's things called time zones. But I think he meant sort in the context of the song. What the does that have to do with anything? Like.
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A
Yeah, it's a good question.
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B
Actually. It's the most random lyric.
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A
No. And also comes. It's born of, like, actually his deep obsession with the song. He said that him and. And Manny, his friends, who he works with, debated every single day. I think he's, like, very into the song. So burn. It's like, a really great message. Born in a hurry, always late. Jackie, there was eight.
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B
No one was talking about this. And if it got passed around as a clip, it was because, like, it was funny, but, like, it wasn't. It wasn't there. Variety is like, and this is why we really, really need journalists. And it's like, no. No one was saying that.
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A
No one was saying. It reminds me of that Jake Shane clip with Ed Sheeran when you're like, bags don't work like they used to
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B
before that was when my grandma fell.
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A
Like, it's just, like, funny. And it's also, like, a style of journalism now where it's, like, almost ironic.
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B
Dry. Yeah, yeah.
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A
And it's funny.
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B
Like, Variety wrote a whole article about it. Like, they did the last time with the Vanity Fair red carpet. Like, making these tiny non things into things. And I was glad to see people, like, not getting swept up into the comments on Twitter at least were like. Like, literally, we. That's not what he said. And I actually think it's a good question.
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A
No, and I think sometimes, like, when people get flacked for, like, journalism, whatever, it's like, born of, like, not knowing anything about who they're talking to or, like, the. They're not. Look, researching or whatever. But, like, he's actually too researched on the song because he's looking into things that aren't there, you know? No, it's a good question, honestly, especially if it's like, sometimes you wonder about, like, someone's lyrics or whatever, and you're like, if I ever met them, I would want to ask them about that.
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B
Absolutely.
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A
And I feel like that's what his show is, and it's fun to watch. That's fun. We're having fun. Yeah.
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B
Somebody there really doesn't like him. I get the sense now two times in a row, because the first one felt mean spirited. But the first time, like, there was a little bit of backlash on Twitter about, like, his performance on the red carpet. I thought it was hysterical, but people are such wet blankets. So, okay, fine. I was like. But now I'm like, it's feeling intentional.
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A
Yeah. Yeah.
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B
But someone there, like, doesn't like him.
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A
That's so crazy because everybody loves him. There's nothing not to, like, the least offensive influence. Brand Safe. Did you see Tana Mongeau's launching a podcast called Brand Safe?
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B
I did.
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A
After canceled. That's kind of funny.
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B
Yeah, that is. She just keeps saying, like, her thing is, like, she's entering her Brand Safe era. Because she's, like, sober, she doesn't do only fans anymore, and she has brown hair.
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A
No, but that's funny that, like, her podcast was canceled and now it's brand safe.
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B
I just feel like nobody really wants a brand safe podcast, to be honest. Like, that's the whole thing about podcasts is that, like, they're this renegade media. If you want a brand safe show, like, put it on cable. There's a ton of, like, brand safe garbage. Oh, speaking of brand safe, the roast of Kevin Hart was last night. I didn't watch it. I didn't know that was happening.
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A
I feel like there was no commercials or anything today. I've seen, like, so many stories and clips, so I figured we'll, like, try and watch it tonight. We could talk about it tomorrow.
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B
Oh, I don't want to watch it. Like, it seriously looks. I. I think Rose and you know, Joan Rivers, her documentary, she. The time that they covered her was the time that she did a Comedy Central roast. And she was like, they are the most disgusting, awful, well paid.
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A
I don't understand why a human being would do it. And some people I can understand more than others, but I don't understand why Kevin Hart would do a roast when.
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B
Same with Tom Brady. People who don't need the money, who don't need the attention.
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A
You don't need the attention.
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B
Joan in her documentary, she's like, I'm doing this for the money. Like, I need the money.
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A
Yeah, yeah.
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B
And it was awful. Every joke, you know, her face, her face, her vagina. It's so misogynistic. I cannot. And like, they. They all get no go. Like, Tom Brady was like, you know, no one's allowed to talk about my family. These comedians don't give a. Kevin Harts was that. I guess I didn't know this. He cheated on his pregnant wife. Oh, did I. Like, it was many years ago, and that was, like, the thing he told everyone not to talk about. Of course they did. Like, who the would voluntarily not only get up there to get roasted, but be one of the roasters. Because if you're a roaster, you also get roasted. I saw them say the most disgusting things about Chelsea Handler. Like, who the seriously would do that?
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A
I have no idea. I can understand why people do the roast, especially if they're comedians. You know, everyone needs a little buzz, and it can be, like, really great for someone if they have a good roast. And especially you could always use a little attention when you're, like, a smaller comedian. I do, but Kevin Hart is Like, literally the biggest movie star in the world.
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B
Yeah. I think Nikki Glaser, like, made her bones. Like, a big part of her career was being the roast.
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A
Martha Stewart.
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B
Like, some people use it as, like, pr.
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A
Yes.
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B
Like Jeff. Jeff. Justin. Justin Timberlake. Justin Timberlake should do a roast. He's the type of person who needs it because Justin Bieber did it when he was, like, kind of like this bad boy. And it was a huge part of his rehabilitation. That Justin Bieber, we know today is a byproduct of that roast.
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A
Yeah. Yeah. But I don't.
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B
Yeah, well, loved a. Listers don't need to be doing. This Kevin Hart part, seriously, is, like, the most beloved comedian, especially if you,
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A
like, have something that everyone's gonna joke about that you don't like. The affair on your pregnant skeletons. You shouldn't do a rose, because that's really all we talk about.
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B
Of course. And you shouldn't give a list of things not to talk about, because that's like, there are certain comedians who. That's all they'll know.
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A
And it's like, why shouldn't they talk about that? Like, you know what I mean? It's something that you did, and we're talking about you. Otherwise, don't do the roast.
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B
Yeah. Like, when Alec Baldwin did it, like, like, that was a good move. You know, he is this, like, villain, like, character, and there's so much. And he just, like, sort of leaned in, and I do think, overall, it had a positive effect on his Q score.
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A
Yeah.
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B
But if you. If you have a positive Q score, there's only one place for it to go after a roast down.
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A
Yeah. And Kevin Hart has the best Q score.
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B
Oh, my God. He's like America's sweetheart. Everyone loves him.
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A
Everybody.
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B
And, yeah, it was a list. Dwayne the Rock Johnson. But, like, seriously, I think it's so gross.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Like, ugh. Who the would want to participate in that?
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A
Well, maybe I won't watch. I just said that so that, like,
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B
no, I'm like, I. But I saw some Shane Gillis. I just happened to really like Shane Gillis. Like, I thought his jokes were funny.
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A
Like, even Chelsea Handlers.
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B
Yeah, the Zionist one. And it loved. But the funny thing is that Chelsea Handler's not a Zionist.
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A
Yeah. And she got him back pretty good, too.
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B
Yeah, she did.
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A
And it's like, did she write that on the fly? Because. Did she know he was gonna say that?
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B
What? It was giving improv. Maybe it was, like, a couple of hours earlier, and she had time to sort of like, think about something.
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A
Yeah, she got in pretty good.
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B
Yeah. She threw that SNL slur thing right in his face. That's what I mean. People have skeletons, especially comedians. Everybody has. Who would willingly show up and sign up for that.
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A
I don't know. It could never, never, never, never. Or people who have their birthday party and they're like, roast me.
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B
Yeah. David Dobrik did that. Like, and he filmed it. But even like regular people. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, Brian did it.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Brian Kelly. It was actually very funny. Well, yeah, I feel like if you're a person who is, like, deeply admired and respected by your friends and family, like, they couldn't come up with such terrible things to say about you and
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A
a little bit feared. You've got to be feared.
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B
Yes. Yes. Yeah. Like, Brian's was actually really, like, funny and, like, yeah, he has, like, crazy stories, but, like, for the most part, it was pretty nice.
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A
Yeah. Watch what you say. Watch.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Roast me.
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B
You still want. You still want those free trips?
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A
You want those points? You want those tips? Sure, yeah. Roast me.
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B
Well, the place looks great. I mean, it genuinely always does. Our studios have never looked more beautiful.
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A
I agree. Neither have we.
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Love you. Bye.