Miscellaneous Summer Treats with BSC: Friday, July 10th, 2026

Summary

The Toast – "Miscellaneous Summer Treats with BSC"

Hosts: Jackie Oshry & Guest (Ben "Bunglish" Soffer)
Date: Friday, July 10, 2026
Special Mention: Claudia Oshry is out sick for her birthday; Ben joins Jackie as co-host.

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Overview

This lively Friday episode of The Toast blends classic banter, summer share-house stories, food talk, and hot reality TV gossip. Regular host Jackie Oshry is joined by her brother-in-law Ben Soffer ("Bungalish" or "Lish") while Claudia is out sick (on her own birthday!). The pair cover birthday rituals, summer cooking routines, restaurant pet peeves, reality shows (notably Love Island and Summer House), and serve up irreverent social commentary. The episode closes with a hearty Love Island recap and playful sibling dynamics.

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Main Topics & Discussion Points

1. Claudia’s Birthday & The Importance of Taking Time Off

• Timestamps: 00:03–02:50

• Jackie wishes Claudia a happy birthday, noting that she’s too sick to join.

• Discussion turns to how they used to take birthdays off but now feel pressure as "worker bees" since “when you don’t do the show, then they don’t get the show.”

• Notable quote:

  “Birthdays used to be, like, in corporate America, it used to be your birthday, you take it off. Yeah, you should take off on your birthday.” (B, 01:27)

• Ben confirms dinner plans: He’s making brisket per Claudia’s request for a “Pargi Shabbat.”

2. Birthday Cake & Restaurant Rituals

• Timestamps: 02:10–04:02
• Annoyance with needing to “secretly” tell waitstaff about birthday cakes:
• Ben: “Why do I have to secretly pretend I'm going to the bathroom to tell a waitress?...Just bring us a cake, please.” (B, 02:39, paraphrased)
• Jackie: “If you say you’re celebrating every time, then that means every time they’re gonna bring you a cake. And then so, so, so many cakes...” (A, 03:51)
• Ben complains about getting too much free dessert; jokes about his "see food diet."

3. Round Swamp Farm Review & Vlog Life

• Timestamps: 04:40–07:47
• The pair recap their vlog: "lunch and learn" at Round Swamp Farm, sampling expensive ($50 chicken fingers!) and, at times, questionable fare ("rancid tuna salad").
• Jackie: “Round Swamp Farms is overrated." (A, 05:12)
• Discussion on the psychology of eating—Ben finishes food even if he didn’t initially like it (“I have a disease. I eat what’s in front of me.”)
• “I'm on the seafood diet, you guys. See food, and I eat it.” (B, 04:37)

4. Summer Share House Cooking & Batch Content

• Timestamps: 08:23–10:51
• Ben details his evolved “Fork of July” tradition: now batch-filming content in a studio, reducing daily cooking stress.
• Jokes about fans noticing him wearing the same shirt in several videos.
• Plans include Fiesta Week, Italian Summer, Asian Week, and, later, “miscellaneous summer treats.”
• Discussion on who in the house actually feeds everyone and on communal living dynamics.

5. Mexican Hibachi Restaurant Concept

• Timestamps: 14:11–15:44
• Ben pitches a “Mexican Hibachi” restaurant: “Imagine Mexican hibachi. You get to this beautiful communal table. They're making fajitas, tacos...Why is it limited to Asian cuisine?” (B, 14:19)
• Jackie is skeptical about the world being ready for it.

6. Summer Social Life: Vegas, Atlantic City, Surf Lodge

• Timestamps: 16:02–21:19
• Nostalgic chat about favorite ages, party years (Atlantic City, 2018–2019), and where they’d “go back for one night.”
• “Atlantic City, if you're in the right mindset, is so fun. And if you're in the wrong mindset, it is the dirtiest place in the world.” (B, 18:27)
• Longing for Vegas trips and liking day drinking/outdoor venues over nightclubs.

7. Podcast Plugs, Upcoming Events & American Dream Mall

• Timestamps: 21:28–22:31
• Ben plugs his live podcast show August 16 at the American Dream Mall.
• Jackie raves about the mall’s attractions (kosher beef jerky!).

8. Love Island Recap

• Timestamps: 22:36–93:12 with focus 72:30–93:12
• They begin with how bad the season is…yet keep watching.
• Notable quote: “Sometimes I find that I am wasting my life watching this show...” (B, 23:12)
• Deep dive into Family Night: insight into contestants’ family dynamics, emotional moments ("I was wanting to cry because they're literally dumped on this island in this psychological torture chamber..." A, 73:36).
• Ben and Jackie agree: Bryce and Trinity (“Queenie and Bryce!”) are favorites to win; Kenzie and Dylan’s future is shaky; strong opinions about Sincere’s conduct and Melanie’s struggles.
• Respect for realistic couples not rushing to be “boyfriend-girlfriend.”
• Context for reality TV’s “invisible lines”—comparing Love Island's producer decisions with those on Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.
• The application of PolyMarket odds to predict show outcomes.

9. Bravo’s Summer House: Casting and Spin-offs

• Timestamps: 33:00–41:03
• Ben leaks he’s got a Food Network (“FN”) pilot in the works (31:57).
• They discuss Summer House S11 filming, cast shakeups (Amanda & Wes not returning), and concerns over drama sustainability.
• Thoughts on casting crossovers, the franchise moving to Canada (“Summer House Muskoka”).
• Nostalgia for "Jersey Shore" energy and improvements needed for Summer House.

10. Reality TV’s Ethics: Secret Lives of Mormon Wives & Taylor Frankie Paul

• Timestamps: 41:05–51:13
• Debate about allowing cast members with legal/personal issues to continue on shows.
• Jackie advocates for nuance and second chances ("rooting for her includes employing her"; A, 44:32).
• Ben is more hesitant, flagging child endangerment concerns.

11. Taylor & Travis’s $30 Million Wedding

• Timestamps: 51:44–58:04
• Breakdown of Taylor Swift’s (fictional?) wedding at Madison Square Garden: cost, security, venue logistics, preference for not commandeering holidays (“If you invite me to a July 4th weekend wedding...that’s fucked up.” B, 55:18)
• Debates about guest convenience vs. celebrity privacy.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Eating:
  "I'm on the seafood diet ... See food, and I eat it." (Ben, 04:37)
• On Share House Living:
  “One thing to know about the house is that if I don’t feed everyone, people don’t eat.” (B, 10:51)
• On Reality TV Drama:
  “Sometimes I find that I am wasting my life watching [Love Island]. That the frequency and that every single night, especially when it’s, like, a bad, drawn-out episode.” (B, 23:12)
• On Birthday Etiquette at Restaurants:
  “Why do I have to secretly pretend I’m going to the bathroom... just bring me a slice of cake for my beautiful wife who's sitting over here?” (B, 02:39)
• On Summer Weddings:
  “If you invite me to a July 4th weekend wedding... that’s fucked up.” (B, 55:18)
• On Secret Projects:
  “The secret projects, like, are piling up. This isn’t a secret project. This is an exciting email." (B, 32:37)

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Timestamps for Key Sections

• 00:03 – Opening, Claudia’s sick birthday, Ben joins
• 02:10 – Birthday cake/restaurant stories
• 04:40 – Round Swamp Farm vlog debrief
• 08:23 – Share house cooking, Fork of July content
• 14:11 – “Mexican Hibachi” business pitch
• 16:00 – Vegas/Atlantic City nostalgia
• 21:28 – Podcast/live show plugs
• 33:00 – Food Network pilot, Summer House S11 drama
• 41:05 – Secret Lives of Mormon Wives casting debate
• 51:44 – Taylor & Travis’s $30M wedding at MSG
• 72:30–93:12 – Love Island US Family Night and finale predictions

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Tone & Style

• Warm, irreverent, inside-baseball: The duo riff with easy sibling-in-law chemistry, often teasing each other and sharing both family inside jokes and pop-culture hot takes.
• Informally deep: They switch from surface-level rants (desserts, vlogs, show formats) to reflective takes on personal responsibility and the ethics of reality TV with surprising thoughtfulness.

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Conclusion

This episode is a classic share-house, deep-summer Toast: part reality TV podcast, part family diary, part pop culture roast, woven through with in-jokes and food talk. Jackie and Ben keep it engaging for regulars and drop-in listeners alike, moving swiftly from restaurant pet peeves to reality TV ethics, with Love Island and Bravo delivering both fodder and metaphors for their own delightful family drama.

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For Love Island diehards: skip to ~72:30 for full Family Night breakdown and finale predictions.
For Bravo gossip: start around 33:00.
For food/cooking talk and absurd business pitches: listen between 08:23–15:44.

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Transcript

[A]

Good morning, girlies. It's the toast. It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host. It's your favorite show. The best five things you need to know. We'll start your day off Swirly. It's the toast. They sound amazing. Welcome back to the toast. Happy Friday. Happy birthday, cojourna Fred. However. However, I don't have Frederick sitting next to me today. I have Bungalish. Safer.

[B]

Yes. Shabbat shalom to the beautiful toasters. I'm already being told to bring in my mic, even though it was literally. It was literally so unbelievably in.

[A]

It was so not in. And I'm not even. The mic, please.

[B]

It was so in. But now it's gonna be really.

[A]

These are new mics, so we. They're beautiful mics, and we've been having, like, mic drama.

[B]

They're beautiful mics.

[A]

They are beautiful. But you do have to stay close to them. And I know Claudia is not here. I can tell you. Maybe closer.

[B]

Okay. Okay.

[A]

Maybe.

[B]

Shabbat shalom to all of the tostadas. This is fiesta week on 4th of July, so I am able to say hello to the tostadas and yes, happy birthday to my beautiful, sickly wife, Claudia, who is not feeling well. Just wasn't feeling too hot this morning.

[A]

I mean, you guys saw. She was fighting it. She was up and down. And today she was down two down to toast. And it's her birthday.

[B]

I was gonna say, like, birthdays used to be, like, in corporate America. It used to be it's your birthday, you take it off. Yeah, you should take off on your birthday.

[A]

Yeah, sometimes we used to do that. We used to take off more, and now we're just like worker bees.

[B]

Yeah, you work hard.

[A]

We're workhorses.

[B]

I mean, it's important because when you, like, don't do the show, then they don't get the show.

[A]

Right, right. And we like doing the show. You know, it's not like corporate America, where it's like, I don't want to go to work. It's like, oh, I want to go swirl it up with my sister and then have a go for a fun, great birthday, like.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

And I know she would love to be doing that today. Like, that's her dream day. Like, swirlitude, working hard, and then, like, going and having a pargy lunch. And we're not gonna do any of that.

[B]

No.

[A]

You know, I mean, I'm gonna swirl it up with you, but, like, we're

[B]

gonna swirl it up.

[A]

She's still not gonna go to lunch. Like, that's how poorly she's feeling.

[B]

She's not gonna go to lunch. But there is a brisket in the oven.

[A]

Well, the dinner plans do work for a sick girl, which is. She wanted a Pargi Shabbat.

[B]

She did.

[A]

You're making a brisket?

[B]

I am.

[A]

And you started that this morning. So, like, we have our dinner plans. Well, obviously, she's not gonna listen to this. We obviously get a cake.

[B]

Yeah, well, she'll listen to it, but, like, I don't think that, like, by

[A]

the way, that's a surprise. You have a cake on your birthday.

[B]

I love that you bring this up. Like, this whole idea. We're at a restaurant, okay? It's me and you.

[A]

Why do I have to, like, go to the bathroom?

[B]

Why do I have to secretly pretend that I'm going to the bathroom to tell a waitress? What kind of song and dance is this? Why can't I just say to the waitress, who's right here, can you please bring me a slice of cake for my beautiful wife who's sitting over here?

[A]

Yeah, more than that. I feel like when you check in or you sit down, they're like, are we celebrating anything? Or even if they don't ask, because you don't have to ask every time. The other person can be like, we're celebrating this person's birthday, and then it's just, like, known.

[B]

Known.

[A]

Bring us a cake. Also, I don't want to have to be running, like, mission impossible to the bathroom to try and find the waiter or waitress and, like, let them know we need a cake.

[B]

So stupid.

[A]

But, like, if. If we sat down and we told you we're celebrating, or we booked it and we said we have a birthday, like. Or you see us doing presents, just like, bring the cake, please.

[B]

Also, now that, like, whenever a restaurant asks if I'm celebrating anything, I say yes, no matter what.

[A]

Well, that's my.

[B]

Because then I think to myself, what are you gonna do better for me now that I've told you that I'm celebrating something? And how bad would my meal have been? Were you gonna stick me in the toilet if I didn't tell you that I was celebrating?

[A]

Oh, no, I don't think that. And I actually think, like, you saying that you're celebrating every single time is, like, ruining my chances. I'm celebrating life of just getting, like, what we need when we are celebrating.

[B]

But we should be getting what we need even when we're not celebrating, because

[A]

we're going paying for service by what we need. I Mean a cake?

[B]

No, no, I don't need a cake.

[A]

Because if you say you're celebrating every time, then that means every time they're gonna bring you a cake. And then you think, so, so so many cakes. And then, like, no, I don't need a cake.

[B]

I also don't need free dessert. I don't.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I don't eat it.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

No, I'm just saying if I order dessert, this is another thing. I'm just saying. I'm at the table. I order a nice flan. Okay? Tostadas. I order a nice flan. Okay. I don't want three other desserts to come. Now, I know what you're thinking, Ben. What are you crazy?

[A]

Who's sending you flan and three desserts?

[B]

People send free desserts.

[A]

Oh, because you're Ben.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

So you're speaking about, like, an unrelatable issue to our massive audience.

[B]

No, I think that they sometimes all.

[A]

You get too much free food, and we should all feel bad for you.

[B]

Yes, you should. You should. Because then all of a sudden, as you know, I have a disease. I eat what's in front of me,

[A]

and he sees food and he eats.

[B]

I see I'm on the seafood diet, you guys. He food, and I eat it.

[A]

We did a vlog yesterday.

[B]

We did, about literally the most overrated farm in America.

[A]

We had an amazing vlog. It was a mukbang lunch and learn at Round Swamp Farm. We drained the swamp.

[B]

We did.

[A]

We mukbang'd. We tried a bunch of things, and we lunch and learn. Because you learned about the Romanovs.

[B]

Yes. And Rasputin, right? Is that who I learned about?

[A]

Yeah. Rasputin.

[B]

Yeah, I learned about Rasputin. Okay. And we ate, honestly, a couple of really, really great items. Yeah, I just, like, now is probably a good time to talk about it. I think Round Swamp Farms is overrated.

[A]

Okay?

[B]

That's it. Everybody sees online that their chicken salad is $40 and their chicken fingers are $50, and this place is taking people for a fucking ride. And sure, are some of the items yummy. Yeah. I had a delicious sandwich yesterday. We had some dumplings. You can check it all out on the vlog. The corn chowder, some delicious items. But if you're gonna charge this type of a premium, it needs to be the greatest soup I've ever had. Like, I think that that's, like, what's happening at a Meadow Lane, for example. The reason people are loving Meadow Lane there. I haven't.

[A]

So then you can't say because you would find Meadow Lane overrated.

[B]

You're so right that there's a chance that I would.

[A]

That you would. Because nothing is ever going to be that good. And here's the thing. Like, they can charge that much for a chicken finger. They have lines around the block. They don't have to lower their prices. They should raise their prices.

[B]

You know what the problem is? I had that tuna salad the day before I had rancid tuna salad.

[A]

I actually can't hear this again because I heard it rancid. I heard it when it happened. Claudia and I recapped it in the car on the vlog. Then you spoke about it on the vlog as well. And I can only hear about discussing tuna salad.

[B]

Yeah. You also have an adverse reaction to the idea of rancid tuna.

[A]

I just.

[B]

Like, it was gelatinous.

[A]

Okay, we can move on like that. You know, that's how I feel about it.

[B]

We can move on.

[A]

So it's. All of these conversations are in the vlog. It's a hysterical vlog. You learn a lot.

[B]

It was a great vlog.

[A]

There's a history lesson like it's an actual lunch.

[B]

And learn there is. Yes. We did learn about Russia, the former royal family. We learned about their ousting. And, you know, it's a sad story that is accompanied by a good lunch. Not a great lunch, but a good lunch.

[A]

You guys watch the vlog for yourself. Because he literally left no crumbs.

[B]

Because I'm fat as fuck.

[A]

Oh, right. Because you're on the seafood diet.

[B]

Because I am on the seafood diet. If you put food in front of me, I'm going to eat it. I'm gonna eat it.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Are you? Not that way? Like you can I put a plate of. I put a tray of beautiful food in front of you. You're not going to eat it.

[A]

If it's beautiful and it's good, that's

[B]

round swamp by definition.

[A]

If it's good, yeah, I will eat something that I like to eat. I think that's like healthy eating.

[B]

No, but it's beautiful. There's a difference between beautiful and good. All of their food looks great.

[A]

I will try anything that's beautiful, but I'm not going to keep eating something I don't like.

[B]

Yeah, I think I might.

[A]

But you do.

[B]

Because then eventually what's interesting about that journey is you end up liking it. You have one bite.

[A]

That's so you.

[B]

I have two bites. I like it. Nah, not really.

[A]

That's three bites.

[B]

I love it.

[A]

That's You.

[B]

And then all of a sudden, you've had a whole cold corn chowder, which was amazing. Amazing.

[A]

The chowder, the corn soup.

[B]

I love corn.

[A]

We know we do. Well, you, like. You love to try everybody's corn.

[B]

Only the best one survives. But I love corn.

[A]

You. You love, like, grilled corn. So does Claudia.

[B]

On the cob, off the cob.

[A]

Remember when you made your, like, in a Mexican street. Corn pasta?

[B]

Corn.

[A]

Remember when you made corn chowder last summer? What was that?

[B]

That was a. That was a fish chowder. Oh, my God. Chunks of halibut, sweet corn, potatoes, fish stock. This is a dream.

[A]

Yeah. Speaking of fish chowder.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

How's Fork of July?

[B]

Fork of July has been very considerate this year.

[A]

Yes. People were wondering. People don't realize people wanted us to, like, speak our truth because we, you know, we were talking about, like, pre Fast five bender. We usually catch up with ourselves in our lives. And, like, we're just saying it's all going so amazingly. And then they were like, but what about Fork of July?

[B]

Yeah. So in past years, I have been making food every single day, editing it, posting it, and then starting to cook dinner. It was often not even what I was making for dinner.

[A]

It was mostly not because it was, like, native stuff. It wasn't just, like, grilled chicken and rice.

[B]

Correct. Which is like, what we make for dinner.

[A]

Right.

[B]

So I decided to be an adult, rent a studio kitchen and film these, batch them. Some girl, she's like, ben, are you gonna wear that shirt every day? Yeah, I'm gonna wear it every fucking day for a week.

[A]

You could bring a different shirt.

[B]

Oh, you think so? Why? You think I have to.

[A]

I don't know. For content. Like, telling a story.

[B]

Yeah. The story is that I made everything on one day, and I'm posting it on seven days. Is that not a good story? It's a bad. It's a bad story.

[A]

Or get, like, a fun apron.

[B]

Okay. Okay. So I should change or, like.

[A]

Yeah, bring a couple shirts.

[B]

Okay. Well, I've already filmed the first three weeks. But the fourth and. But the fourth and fifth.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I will be wearing a different shirt.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Okay. So I have seven shirts.

[A]

You post it seven days a week? Yeah. Oh, okay. So he goes to a studio kitchen. He batches his content. He will be changing out his shirt for the next week. And then you clean up there. And actually, it's actually great because once a week, you come home with a ton of food.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And dinner is served.

[B]

And dinner is served. Claw. I mean, I know how Much. She loves chicken parm, which is why I brought it home. Claude devoured that chicken parm. Oh, she loved it. That the. This week is fiesta week. Next week, spoiler alert is Italian summer. How easy is that? I don't know, though. I think I'm like. I think they're, like, a little bit too serious.

[A]

I didn't know if the chicken parm was good.

[B]

You didn't eat it.

[A]

You guys, like, cleaned up and put, like, threw everything away before I got down for dinner. Remember that?

[B]

Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that. Oh, you missed dinner.

[A]

Yeah. Remember? I came down, I finally, like, finished, like, bath and beds, and I was

[B]

like, you didn't have any of the zucchini pasta. Pasta a la nero.

[A]

I did not have one bite of everything you brought home.

[B]

You didn't have any of the tuna tartare.

[A]

I didn't have one bite of anything you brought home from Italy. And that was the night I woke up in the middle of the night,

[B]

like, no arugula salad.

[A]

I was so hungry that the next day I had. After the toast, like, I took myself out to lunch because I. I hadn't. And I actually didn't have lunch that day either.

[B]

Sorry. That's terrible.

[A]

Thank you for understanding.

[B]

One thing to know about the house is that if I don't. Like, one thing to know about the house is that if I don't feed you, if I don't feed everyone, people don't eat.

[A]

Yeah, agreed. Yeah, well.

[B]

And I'm fine with that.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. That's how it's been going.

[B]

That's how it always goes.

[A]

I don't know. Sometimes I, like, take care of, like, my. It depends. Sometimes we splinter off. But still, we're in early days. We're still, like.

[B]

We're in early days.

[A]

We're a community.

[B]

So it doesn't feel like we've been here for a week.

[A]

How long does it feel like? It feels like new. No, it still feels new to me.

[B]

A month.

[A]

But, like, we're still in early days where we're all, like, cooking for each other and cleaning for each other, eating together. You know, we haven't gotten to the part where you're like, we're gonna go out, just us.

[B]

Oh, yeah, True. No, no, we'll go out to dinner.

[A]

We should.

[B]

Oh, yeah, we should go out to dinner. I forgot that that's an option, but

[A]

honestly, no, because it's going so, like,

[B]

it's going so great, you know, and

[A]

the flow of, like, cooking and cleaning, it's been like Great.

[B]

It's been great.

[A]

We've had plenty of food.

[B]

And you want to keep Shabbat tonight with us?

[A]

I actually might. Because the only reason I like, need to check my phone all the time is, like, because of our family chat. I just, like, want to make sure I'm up on it, but, like, I'm with my family, so. Yeah, I'd be happy to not be on my phone.

[B]

It's so nice.

[A]

Like, I already don't post on the weekends. Really? Yeah, I really am not doing anything

[B]

on my phone for those, like, like, my. My fudge is scheduled for tomorrow. I don't want people to think that, like, once it goes up, like, I'm posting it.

[A]

But do you not think, like, in the name of all that. Totally. Maybe I shouldn't fudge on Saturday.

[B]

Yeah, I'll just post it at night.

[A]

Yeah. Okay. So next week we're having Italian.

[B]

Italian summer. And then.

[A]

But what were you saying? It feels too serious.

[B]

I was just saying, like, I like the idea that I've like, themed these weeks. Like, it's fun. It's like one big dinner. That was the idea that, like, you get to the end of the week and like, you can make all of them for like one big, beautiful, festive meal. But like, I also kind of miss like just like making like a big ass salad and like making a grilled pizza and making like something that's like. So I think like, the next week is gonna be just like shit that I want to eat. Not necessarily like a Italian summer fiesta. Like a theme.

[A]

That's fine. You make the rules.

[B]

Yeah, I make the rules. No, but like, I like, I forget that I make the rules.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I have to, like, I'm like, I have to stick to the rules. Yeah, but I made them.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know? Yeah, no, I make the rules.

[A]

We also need, like, Asian week. You know, we love Asian week is.

[B]

We need Asian week.

[A]

We need Asian week.

[B]

Okay. So the next week is Asian week.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And then it'll be whatever Ben wants to cook.

[A]

Miscellaneous summer treats.

[B]

Miscellaneous summer treats. Stranberries, perhaps.

[A]

Perhaps one day. Stranberries.

[B]

That was the best thing at Round Swamp. The tomato mozzarella sandwich that you didn't eat with a. I want to say it was an herbaceous basil y heavy mayo. Oh, it was delicious.

[A]

Speaking of Asian meat, did you ever get the ginger dressing?

[B]

No. Makoto, if you're listening, please send. Because it's been on our shopping list for three weeks and we keep forgetting.

[A]

So. Makoto, I. I keep not buying it. Because I'm like, someone has bought it. At this point, we're going to show up with, like, all of us have bought one. But it's our food.

[B]

Nobody's buying. Makoto. Oh, my God, it's so good.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Makoto, we really should have it tonight.

[A]

Get it tonight. Okay, I'll get it.

[B]

I just know it's, like, with brisket, that's, like, a little.

[A]

No, no, no. Not for brisket. I got balsamic vinaigrette from round swamp. Like.

[B]

Oh, okay, I'll try that.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, that should be good.

[B]

I'll give it a try. You want to hear about my new restaurant concept that I want to do with you?

[A]

Not strawberries.

[B]

Think about this idea. This is genius.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

You want to do it with me? Are there other partners?

[B]

Yeah, everybody. Anybody. Anybody who wants to be involved. Josh is definitely involved, too. Think about. We love hibachi, right? Who doesn't love hibachi? Imagine Mexican hibachi. You get to this beautiful communal table. They're making fajitas, they're making tacos. Why is it limited to an Asian cuisine? This foundation of family fun, food, entertainment. A flat top. There are other things for a flat top.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What are your thoughts?

[A]

I just don't know if, like, if, okay, you're out, I don't know if the world's ready for, like, you to open up a Mexican.

[B]

Mexican hibachi. No, I don't need to. Not me. Somebody should.

[A]

Okay. Somebody. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

I'm a silent partner, Right.

[A]

You know?

[B]

No. Yeah. I don't know if I should be the face of a Mexican restaurant.

[A]

Of a Mexican hibachi restaurant.

[B]

Not yet.

[A]

Yeah, but I guess that's like, Korean barbecue is cooked, like, in front of you on a flat top, right?

[B]

No.

[A]

You cook your own.

[B]

No, you're thinking of a poo poo platter. Oh, yeah, I understand what you're thinking.

[A]

Right?

[B]

Yeah, sort of. Sort of? Yeah.

[A]

You.

[B]

You could do some of it tableside.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But also, you could just, like, get it.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Delish.

[A]

I used to live next to the police that, like, did it like that. I don't know. When I lived in Chelsea.

[B]

Oh, in New York. Okay, so it was Cote.

[A]

Cote, was it?

[B]

Yeah, in Chelsea, actually. How long ago did you live in Chelsea? 15 years.

[A]

Well, don't age me. Like.

[B]

Yeah, no, I don't.

[A]

10 years. 15. 10 years.

[B]

Yeah. I think, like, 20 years ago. There wasn't 10 years.

[A]

I said, how old are you?

[B]

40.

[A]

I'm younger than you. If I'm old You're older.

[B]

I know. Are you still 33?

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

And you're 34.

[B]

Yikes. Big yikes. It's actually not a big yikes.

[A]

It's not at all.

[B]

34 would be really, really terrible. As would 33, I think, if we didn't have our lives together.

[A]

If you did. If you weren't where you wanted to be at that age. I think that's true of any age.

[B]

But I'm exactly where I want to be.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I might even be. I'm certainly further than I expected to be, which is a really great feeling. Hmm. And, yeah, 34 is good. And our sweet Claude turns 18 today.

[A]

How old is she? She wouldn't want us to say.

[B]

No, but I think you know, though.

[A]

I think I know. Yeah.

[B]

You know?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

You know, 18.

[A]

18, 18.

[B]

At the ripe age of 18, she's a mother.

[A]

Who would even want to be 18?

[B]

Claudia.

[A]

No, she would not.

[B]

Honestly. No, I don't want to be 18. If you could pick an age, what

[A]

age did I actually have to go back to?

[B]

You have to go back to,

[A]

like. I don't want to go back, but

[B]

let's say you could go back for a night.

[A]

A night. Okay. I know. You're going to Atlantic City.

[B]

I think I'm going back to 23.

[A]

23 years old.

[B]

23 years old. For a night. We're going to catch. We're smoking cigarettes on the outdoor patio.

[A]

We are.

[B]

I'm arranging a limousine to take us straight to ac.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And we're hearing Cash, Cash at the club.

[A]

Okay. Those were good times.

[B]

For one night.

[A]

I think I might go back to 2019. So what was. So how old am I?

[B]

2019. You are 26.

[A]

Yeah, 26, though. But then my hangovers started, like, creeping up at that age, so maybe, like, not for the good times. Yeah, but that was a good, fun party year while also having, like, lots of fulfillment, you know?

[B]

20, I think you're thinking 2018. 2019. You got married.

[A]

Yeah. No, that was a great year. 2018 was a year of. Of rebuilding.

[B]

Ah, yeah.

[A]

But no, 20. 2019, I got married. We went to stagecoach Hochella Ocean's 25 for Claudia's birthday. Wow, that was such a great trip.

[B]

So fun. And we always jack djed.

[A]

No, that Diesel.

[B]

Or there was a different time.

[A]

Was that Atlantic City? Yeah, that was Atlantic City. And that was 2018.

[B]

Yeah, got it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Atlantic City, if you're in the right mindset is so fun. And if you're in the wrong mindset, it is the dirtiest place in the world. Like, you can literally just, like, look around and be like, what the fuck am I doing here? But if you go in, you're like, I'm gonna have a fucking great weekend. You can have a great weekend.

[A]

You can.

[B]

You can. It's fun. It's not so far.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's not so expensive.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it's cool.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You hear they're putting a casino in New York?

[A]

No. Like, in the city where.

[B]

I don't remember who won the bid, but it's only gonna make our glorious city just worse. I fear for it.

[A]

Really. I feel like you would be excited about that.

[B]

The idea of it is cool, but with casinos come more drugs, more crime, more homelessness, more despair, more spare. Just like ladies of the night. It just turns into, like, a. You know.

[A]

Well, Claudia must be excited to be

[B]

a lady of the night.

[A]

No, she loves casinos.

[B]

Speaking of ladies of the night. Claudia.

[A]

No, no, I just meant speaking of casinos.

[B]

Yeah. No, yeah, I guess so. But, like, you don't want to shit where you eat. Like, I think part of, like, the fun is, like, you go to Turks and Caicos Casino, or you go to the Bahamas or you go to Atlantic City. The getaway. Doing it at home.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

I understand.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We should go to Vegas. I love Vegas, by the way.

[B]

I'm in. You'll never go to Vegas.

[A]

I love.

[B]

You're a big talker.

[A]

And Vegas is kid friendly.

[B]

Great. Let's go to Vegas.

[A]

I would go to Vegas in a heartbeat. You don't even know me. You don't even know me.

[B]

I don't think I know you.

[A]

I'll go to Vegas today.

[B]

I don't think I know you.

[A]

Go to Vegas.

[B]

You don't want to leave the house.

[A]

You want to go to Vegas, I'll go to Vegas.

[B]

You'll go to Vegas, but you won't go to Surf Lodge.

[A]

I would go to Surf Lodge.

[B]

Okay, great.

[A]

Surf Lodge is my idea of a good time.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Outdoor, al fresco. They have, like, nice drinks.

[B]

Great. So I have Friday night, but I

[A]

want to go to Surf Lodge when, like, someone that I like is performing, if that's possible.

[B]

Great. My friends have a table and we're gonna go.

[A]

Okay. But I like a daytime better.

[B]

It's funny. I do, too. But they claim that the weather's nicer. It's like, at night at. It's not.

[A]

I guess I get to do bedtime.

[B]

Yeah, it's not hot after bedtime.

[A]

Oh, wow, you're in no issue with Surf Lodge.

[B]

Okay. Okay.

[A]

As long as I'm set up.

[B]

So what do you have issues with?

[A]

I don't like nightclubs.

[B]

Same.

[A]

I don't like a place where I can't get, like, a nice, like, glass of Sancerre.

[B]

So you like a sophisticated joint?

[A]

I like a sophisticated joint where I could get a nice drink. Like, I don't want to really go to a bar. I need the music to be music that I like.

[B]

Totally.

[A]

I need space. I need breathing room. I don't want to be like sardine.

[B]

Totally. Same. Great.

[A]

Great.

[B]

My God, what a summer we're going to have.

[A]

I like some.

[B]

And then when are we going to Vegas?

[A]

I like shade too. We should go to Vegas. Like, we should center it around, like, a great concert that's happening. Like Kelly Clarkson.

[B]

That sounds fun. That sounds fun. Josh and I are doing a live podcast. This has nothing to do with Vegas. August 16th.

[A]

Plugging your stuff.

[B]

Just plugging. Yeah. August 16th. I guess I was, like, thinking about the. Your upcoming travel plans about Atlantic City. Aug. 16 at the American Dream Mall.

[A]

I love that I would go there.

[B]

It's very kid friendly.

[A]

The American Dream Mall is my idea of a good time.

[B]

Yeah. So that's fun. They have skiing and they have good guys.

[A]

They have Angry Birds mini golf and they have Mr. Beast hamburgers.

[B]

So fun.

[A]

We love it there.

[B]

It's wonderful. It's also a very Hasidish scene.

[A]

They have kosher beef jerky.

[B]

That's what it is. That's why. Very Hasidish.

[A]

Kosher beef jerky.

[B]

Where do they have it?

[A]

They have a jerky store and they have a kosher section.

[B]

You're lying.

[A]

I'm not.

[B]

Oh, we need to go. I mean, I'm going, but you all need to go.

[A]

We've been.

[B]

August 16th.

[A]

We literally were there less than a year ago.

[B]

We should all go.

[A]

Okay, twist my.

[B]

It's a little far.

[A]

Oh, so now you're the naysayer?

[B]

No, I'm going. It's a little far for you guys to come, but you're more than welcome.

[A]

Just support the Jeej.

[B]

Just support the Jeej and get some jerk Jeege and jerk. Jerk and jeej.

[A]

You guys should podcast from that store.

[B]

I love that idea. Specifically the jerky store. I'm in. I'm in.

[A]

Great synergy.

[B]

What else is going on?

[A]

Not too much. It's a Friday. We do have to do the show.

[B]

We do.

[A]

You know, and the stories and, like, you know, the work and the love iron recap. We've been Watching together.

[B]

And so should we just jump into that?

[A]

We will. We will. So I'm just gonna let you know, like, today we're gonna do the stories. We're gonna get to the Love island recap. Last night was family night. I will say episodes like last night. The show is bad. The season is bad. The cast is bad. You guys know how I feel.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Episodes like last night and episodes like movie night, like, make all of it worth something because it's like everything that we had to suffer through. The chickens come home to roost. So I'm really excited to recap. Last night.

[B]

Yeah, last night was a good episode. I do sometimes find that I am wasting my life watching this show.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That the frequency and that every single night. Especially when it's, like, a bad, drawn out episode.

[A]

Like the one from two nights ago where they did the I'm wasting my life.

[B]

Like, I could be playing a game. I could be hanging out with people that I love. I could be watching something better.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, you know, I do know sometimes

[A]

I feel like we had this conversation. I know you worry about the calories that you waste. Watch Love Island.

[B]

Oh, my God. At least a thousand. At least. I start into a bag of Drizzalicious. Drizzalicious. Let me tell you.

[A]

Okay. No. Claudia has literally given us, like, three soliloquies separately about Drizzalicious. Like, we know that you guys love it.

[B]

Yeah, we're the same person in regards to. Well, actually not in. In full regard to snacks. Because she, you know, I don't like.

[A]

Because she doesn't like nerds rope.

[B]

And I'm not a chips person. Really.

[A]

That's disgusting.

[B]

I'm not a plain chips. I'll have a harvest cheddar sun chip. I love it. A Dorito. A plain baked lay.

[A]

Love.

[B]

Vile love. It's so boring.

[A]

Love.

[B]

What the do you do with a plain baked lay? Choke on it.

[A]

But her love for Drizzlicious has been thoroughly stated.

[B]

The thing is, this is a diet snack that's not dietetic.

[A]

So not at this. When you're eating it by the chocolate.

[B]

That's what I'm saying. Well, it's a bag. If you give me a bag, I'm gonna finish a bag. That's why we need smaller bags.

[A]

They have smaller bags.

[B]

I need to make. I need to eat those.

[A]

They have single serving.

[B]

I need to eat this.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Even though. Yeah. All right. We don't need to, like, therapize my eating disorder.

[A]

So you'll have a love island recap.

[B]

We'll have a Love island recap. We have a bunch of stories and

[A]

we can get into everything. If that's all with you, without further ado to do, I think, I think let's jump right in and see where it takes us.

[B]

We can always tangent.

[A]

We can always take us back to Vegas and back to Atlantic City.

[B]

We can always tangent.

[A]

But I think we should start somewhere.

[B]

Let's start.

[A]

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So automating savings that grow towards goals with adjustable amounts and frequency. Set it and forget it. Save money with rocket money. Thank you. Our first story. Are you ready, Lish?

[B]

I am. I just got a very exciting email, though.

[A]

Oh, really?

[B]

Yeah. Sorry that I was checking my emails

[A]

when you were reading this. No, that's literally fine. Are you gonna share the exciting email?

[B]

I. I think so. I think I can share it, like, vaguely enough that I'm gonna be on a pilot for a food related big network show.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

The initials of the network are fn.

[A]

What's the. What's the show?

[B]

I. I don't know, but it's a pilot of a show on FN and

[A]

you're gonna be on it. This is signed. Sealed?

[B]

Well, no, definitely not signed or sealed. Just exciting.

[A]

That's really crazy that you shared that.

[B]

I share everything. I'm an open book.

[A]

No, it's fine to be an open book, but I don't know.

[B]

Fn, Jackie.

[A]

FN the dream Fast news. I know, I know. I'm too. That's so not. That's so not me. You're so painful, like, with your secret. Can't even hold in a secret project.

[B]

Do you know how many secret projects I'm holding? Take that back.

[A]

Okay. You can. You can. Who's better at holding a secret project? You or Claudia?

[B]

Me.

[A]

Yeah, she really struggles.

[B]

The secret projects, like, are piling up. This isn't a secret project. This is an exciting email.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, no, they are piling up. I'm like, too good at hiding a secret project that, like, I actually won't, like, ever share when it's launched.

[B]

No, it doesn't launch. Yeah, your secret projects. You launch them for you.

[A]

Yeah, they're. They're passion projects. Okay, let's get into the story. Thank you for that. Thank you for that nothingness. Thank you for that nothingness. Our first story, actually. Summer House season 11 filming plans have been revealed as Bravo was navigating the post Scandal fallout. So according to Page Six, Bravo is getting creative to make sure the sun doesn't set on Summer House following scandal written season 10. One source told Page Six that network execs are hyper focused on the continued success of the series given the explosion in viewership during season 10, which documented the demise of Kyle and Amanda and Wes Mandel.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

We're told showrunners are finding new ways to prevent interest from waiting the way it did with Vanderpump rules. Source notes that the stakes are Even higher now that Amanda and West are not returning for season 11, which begins filming this weekend. I would actually say right now they're driving out.

[B]

I say that they are. Yes.

[A]

And as our resident Jesse Solomon correspondent. And I would say you're Jesse Solomon's spokesperson.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

What do you know about this?

[B]

I know that they're filming this week.

[A]

This week.

[B]

I know that they're filming this week. I know that.

[A]

How's feeling about it?

[B]

I know that it's going to be a great season. He's feeling great. And. Yeah, you know, it's hard to follow up a season filled with legitimate drama. It's very, very rare. This season of Summer House was the dream for a network.

[A]

How do you feel about them not bringing back west and Amanda?

[B]

I feel pretty good about it. I think that I. I think that maybe west could have come back.

[A]

That's a crazy take.

[B]

Just because, like, he's, like, like, a little bit crazy, but, like, fun. Like, friends with, like. I feel like Amanda just, like, ruined all of her relationships. Like, who would Amanda have been friends with in the house? Wes, like, still had Jesse, maybe. Maybe west would have made more friends. He's like a very, like, it seems like a very outgoing, whether, like, narcissistically calculated nut job. Like, he is still, like, a social.

[A]

Like, so only the woman should be punished.

[B]

No, I think that she though, like, she's not gonna. Or does she have that other show with Kyle? What is that other show?

[A]

In the city.

[B]

In the city? No, neither of them should be on. Just start fresh, start anew. But I don't know where the drama's gonna come from.

[A]

Don't you think you lose that, like, interest of the reason why this past season was so big?

[B]

But I guess that, like, if you bring on good new people, new drama will come.

[A]

Yeah, but that requires a level of patience that a lot of us don't have after putting in, like, so many years of.

[B]

So you would just not watch it?

[A]

No, no, I'll watch it. I want to see what they do. But if I would have brought back West, Amanda, sure.

[B]

Do you think that they didn't bring back west and Amanda or west and Amanda didn't want to be back?

[A]

I think they didn't bring them back.

[B]

Got it. Interesting.

[A]

The article says they're told the network is experimenting with crossover episodes featuring Bravo liberties from other show. Notably, cast members from Southern hospitality were pictured hanging out with the Summer House crew in the Hamptons over July 4th weekend.

[B]

Got it.

[A]

Also, Kyle appears to be, like, dating or Seeing Sally from Southern Charm. So maybe we'll see Sally on Summer House. I don't really think this is the answer either. They've always had, like, Tom Schwartz coming through the house and, like, you know, random Bravo levities. Because they did like, Winter House. And Craig used to come, like. Yeah, that's not show saving.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

To have Maddie Reese come to the summer house.

[B]

You know, it'd be show saving if me and you walked in with two four packs of Spritz Society to a party. That's what would be show saving.

[A]

I know you want to go to a party. Like, you're going to a summer house party this summer.

[B]

I think we're gonna go. Why not?

[A]

Why not? Shall I count the ways? I don't know.

[B]

It's at night. It's outside. I'll get you good food. You'll have space.

[A]

No, no, no. That's it.

[B]

And it won't be so far from our house.

[A]

You and Margot should go.

[B]

Yeah, sure. I need, like, an adult in the room, too, you know? Otherwise, it's just like me babysitting Margot.

[A]

Yeah, well, you'll have your boy Jesse.

[B]

It'll be me babysitting him, too. I don't know. I'll just, like, I'm not cut out for that environment without you or without Clawd. Yeah, maybe I'd go. Maybe if Craig's in town, I'd go. That would be fun. But yeah, I'm just saying we could start some drama.

[A]

We could. Are we the key?

[B]

We might be. Major key.

[A]

Major key. Where you can save Summer House.

[B]

We could. Not that, like, I want to, but.

[A]

Yeah. I'm glad that they're taking seriously the fact that, like, you don't want to go down the Vanderpump rules road of, like, beating this dead horse. And how are we gonna keep it fresh? The things that I'm seeing here about, like, you know, a bunch of, like, random Bravo stars, like, rolling through is not it for me, but who knows?

[B]

It's just a good premise. Some are in the Hamptons, People in a share house going out and having fun, and they honestly don't show enough of them out and having fun.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

If they wanted to, they could very easily turn this into the Jersey shore.

[A]

No, but they can't. So much places don't let them.

[B]

So then they need to just find places that will let them film.

[A]

They do to a degree, but it's like, one.

[B]

They need to find more of them.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Even if it's like, them, like, driving to Long island.

[A]

Like, you Know how it is out here.

[B]

Yeah, but so don't be out here. Drive more like closer to the city. Go party at like a random barn, Riverhead, and start a fight. Like. Yeah, they could do shit like that.

[A]

Yeah. No, no. I don't know. I don't know.

[B]

I think they could. And there's gotta be a bar out here that's struggling. That would love the publicity. Yeah, sure. Surf Lodge isn't gonna let them come or. Even though I really don't know why. It's great publicity.

[A]

Yeah, it is.

[B]

What don't I talk House doesn't want?

[A]

It's not like everyone at Surf Lodge isn't like on their phones, like live streaming the whole thing.

[B]

They'd be so excited about a show being filmed while they're there. Maybe it's a liability issue, but. Yeah, I don't know. I think the producers need to work a little harder.

[A]

Yeah, I agree. Also, there was just announced another Summer House like franchise is coming to Bravo. I think I saw that and I didn't click it, but I. Yeah. Spin Off. A Summer house Spin off is set in Canada in Muskoka, Ontario, a lakeside vacation town outside of Toronto.

[B]

Got it.

[A]

So it's Summerhouse Canada, Summer House Canada, eh?

[B]

Cool.

[A]

How aboot dat?

[B]

That sounds good. That sounds fun. I love every show that's come out of Canada. Fantastic. This Canadians. Did you watch the Martin Short documentary?

[A]

No.

[B]

You would love it if you haven't. Did you know that him, Eugene Levy, Chris Farley, there's so many more. They're all from Canada. They all did the Canadian arts circuit, made these amazing shows. What's her name that I love? Home Alone passed away. Catherine o', Hara, she was in that circuit. She's their girl, their boy.

[A]

But what about Canadian reality tv?

[B]

Snooki? You know that Snooki has a ghost hunting show in Canada? Snooki ghost hunts. That's great. I think that was sort of like Snooki walked so that these Summer House people could run.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And now it's gonna be. What is it? Muskoke.

[A]

Muskoka, Ontario.

[B]

Summerhouse Muskoka. It really doesn't roll off the tongue, I'm not gonna lie to you.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Who's gonna be in it? Katy Perry?

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

Is she the star?

[A]

New people?

[B]

No.

[A]

Katie and Justin. Yeah, Justin.

[B]

Justin and Katie in Muskoka?

[A]

Yeah. No, that's a winning idea.

[B]

I think so. Who else would you get?

[A]

No, I mean, it's gonna be people we don't know.

[B]

Got it. Like, oh, do you watch Rhode Island?

[A]

I watched most of it, but I didn't finish it.

[B]

These are fun ladies. Yeah, that's like the. I think it's like, the most entertaining new franchise that I've seen in a long time.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because they're so real and raw.

[A]

Like a lot of new, good reality shows there is.

[B]

What else?

[A]

Like Secret Lives and Mormon Wives.

[B]

I don't like that show.

[A]

You don't like.

[B]

I'll get into it if I'm watching it, because, like, that's reality tv. Like, they give you storylines and you get into it. But. Yeah, no, I don't. I don't really. Like. I didn't like this whole, like, Taylor Frankie Paul situation. I didn't like any of it.

[A]

Well, actually, that's a great segue to our next story because Taylor Frankie Paul will be returning to Secret Lives Mormon Fives for season five amid her legal battles.

[B]

This is not. This is not right. She shouldn't be on this show. No, like, it's like. It's the same thing with Amanda. If Amanda actually was an ass back on, you would think that it has to do with, like, her well documented mental health issues. Like, there's a lot going on in her life. West is like, there's a lot going on there where he's lying to people and he's. Taylor's sort of, like, right in there. Like, Taylor is a mess.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, she has young kids. Like, we saw so much, and it just feels like filming another season would put her children in jeopardy. It's just like, a strange. I don't like it at all. What do you think?

[A]

I can understand, like, if you're not, like, very close to it, how on its face, it seems like the wrong choice. Like, because, you know, and she. What she did, like, was so bad, and it's like some people just need a break and, like, don't. This is a toxic environment and like. Like, don't make it more toxic with reality tv.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I feel like for Taylor, first of all, I think she does this, like, and producers have said this about her, like, she's made for tv. She does it, like. Like, nothing. For her, it's not. She just is herself. It's just herself with cameras rolling. So it's not like she's any different for it. I think also, even if she weren't on tv, like, she posts everything to social media. She's, like, healing in real time. If you follow her, it's like a lot of long captions and this and that. And so she's always sharing whether or not she's going to be on a show, she's always going to be sharing. She's always going to be on social media. That's just, like, how she's built. And I don't think, like, cameras picking up on her life will actually hinder her ability to heal, but I do think, like, if. If she's totally cut off from, like, work and, like, this world that she built and everything was built off of her and everybody's success is, like, from her and her original sin, you know, and the swingering or saying everything. Like, I don't know how fair that is either. Especially because when they picked up filming, like, everything about her was known. They knew. Maybe we didn't know. We hadn't seen the video, but, like, producers knew, people around her knew. And then, like, so to be punished, like, again for it, I think. I don't know, it just, like, makes me sad. And I just want her to, like, be successful and, like, have peace in her life. And I. I feel like if she doesn't have a job and she's not working, like, that's not really great either. This is her job. She's not gonna have another career after this. And I feel like she also needs, like, justice. And if we never hear from her again, like, long form on the show or anything. She's tried to, like, share on her social media, like, what she's been through, but she does it in a bad way, I find. And I feel like right now her name is, like, in the toilet. And I feel like she needs justice for herself and I want to hear the end of her story. I do, like, from an entertainment perspective, like, I want to, like, like, finish this chapter, but I also understand, like, why it's uncomfortable given, like, what we saw. But I don't know, I just am rooting for her. And rooting for her includes employing her. I don't know if that's, like, a hot take.

[B]

It's a good take.

[A]

No, I know it's like, a hot take because of course it's, like, bad. No, Go away.

[B]

No, I know.

[A]

I think her situation's, like, a lot more nuanced.

[B]

It is. I guess the part that. And I already told you I don't love the show. I don't. Like, I watch the show whenever it's in front of me, but that. That video is seared in my brain.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Of her throwing a chair, whether or not it hit her daughter or scared her daughter or. I just don't. I just don't actually think that, that I'm always. I don't like canceling people at all. But I do think that, like, endangering your children on television is bad. So maybe if there's like a different. Maybe if there are different rules, like, you can come back and film, but your kids.

[A]

Her kids don't film. She has three children. The older two don't film.

[B]

But don't they not film? Not because she doesn't want them to film.

[A]

It's because the ex husband doesn't want to film. It's because the ex husband doesn't want the younger child. Dakota and her both fine with him filming.

[B]

Yeah, because they don't care.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, they don't care about the, like, repercussions of the long lasting repercussions of being a child on reality tv. Well, that's something with toxic parents.

[A]

You could say that about so many people like that.

[B]

But they're not toxic. I don't think. I don't know. But I do hear you that she. Everybody deserves a second chance. This show must be making Hulu and Disney so much money. The fact that they will bring her back that they were cool with a fully canceled Bachelorette and still are employing her, the same network is employing her. I think that it must be their number one show.

[A]

But it's like, it's not even that because Roseanne was their number one show. Right. And they fired Roseanne and then the show tanked. And that was the biggest show. Like, and it's ABC also. So it's like this. So it's actually crazy that they keep. Usually when people are canceled, it's like, I don't care how much producers love you or like, the industry loves you. Like, you're toxic. You're gone. Goodbye. It is crazy that they, they are still, like, fighting for her a little bit.

[B]

It's not that I think that Roseanne crossed a line in media that you cannot cross. I guess. I guess Taylor didn't. But I guess the endangerment of children isn't. I'm not, I'm not even saying that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Sarcastically. Like, I really think that we are told what the lines are, and I guess whatever she's doing is not the line.

[A]

I mean, that's similar to like, Love island, how the people who are, like, you know, removed from the villa for

[B]

having like, those are the lines.

[A]

Like, they're thrown out. But then, like, you know, Tierra comes, comes out that, like, she threatens to shoot someone with a gun and they have a restraining order.

[B]

It's not the line.

[A]

And that's not the line.

[B]

It's not the line. Yeah, it's. It's interesting. It's not the line at all. But if it's not the line, what happened to the Tiger King? Isn't he in jail?

[A]

I. I don't follow Tiger King. I don't know if that would shock a lot of you.

[B]

I don't think most people follow Tiger King.

[A]

I never even watched it.

[B]

Oh, I loved it. It was a great Covid show. It was really fun.

[A]

I never watched.

[B]

Enjoyable.

[A]

I'm Mark safe, but I just know

[B]

that he's in jail. He's been in jail for a long time. I don't remember what he did, though. I'm not gonna advocate for him. I'm just saying that's not the line. Jail's not the line.

[A]

No, jail is not the line. But. So when you were saying she must make so much money, it's, like, not just about money sometimes.

[B]

No, it's about money and not having crossed that line. Yeah, she didn't cross it.

[A]

Yeah, I guess so. Yeah.

[B]

Right.

[A]

They didn't find an old tweet, so.

[B]

No, she must not have old tweets. She must not have ever said anything bad about a group of people.

[A]

Yeah. It's actually crazy that they.

[B]

She just drunkenly violently throws chairs near and around her children on camera.

[A]

And, like, that's not the line. No. And, like, repeatedly, like, takes back this, like, piece of shit toxic. Like, she continues to engage with this, like, horrible person.

[B]

But that's tv. Yeah, that's literally Love Island. It's a great segue if you want to go there.

[A]

No, no, it's not time.

[B]

Okay. It's not time yet. Later it will be. But, like, that's just tv.

[A]

Yeah. So from an entertainment perspective, the last five months have been insane. I mean, when her season of the Bachelorette was canceled, like, that was the biggest news I. Some of the. I would say top five, maybe even top three biggest stories we've ever covered in doing the toast. And so how do you. Same with West Maneval, which is why it's crazy that they're not bringing them back. So, like, how do you walk away from all of that, like, story and publicity as a network? Like, because also the girls refused to film with her. They kept saying, like, more is coming out. More is coming out. Out. She's also had a couple of, like, legal wins against Dakota. So. Yeah, I don't think the story is done being told.

[B]

Doesn't that make you think then that Maybe Amanda and Wes just left.

[A]

I feel like if that were the case, we would know. They would have said.

[B]

Maybe they're. Maybe they're done saying things because the last time they said something, it blew up in their face.

[A]

Maybe. But everything that everybody says about west is that, like, he's just, like, fame, hungry, climbing the ladder. No, fame, hunger, Climb the ladder. But at a. So why would a person like that leave a reality TV show that's now, like, the number one show?

[B]

Because maybe he. Maybe he's been checked like this. Like, nobody wants to talk about the fact that this was obviously a nightmare for him, too. Like, his reputation is ruined.

[A]

Of course.

[B]

Like, it's. And I'm not saying not deservingly so, but ruined reputation.

[A]

Right. But. So it's like, when you're there, like, wouldn't you at least try to want to. There's nowhere buster to go.

[B]

Kind of just like want to. Like Homer Simpson.

[A]

There's no. Nowhere to go but up. There's nowhere to go but up. I think you give it another shot. Can't get worse.

[B]

Maybe he's doing something else.

[A]

It can't get worse.

[B]

It can't get worse.

[A]

So give it a shot.

[B]

It can't get worse.

[A]

Make some money. It's like, probably a million dollars a seat. Like, go do. Go to work.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't think they walked away.

[B]

Interesting. But then what line did they cross?

[A]

I. Oh, I. This is the one. Sorry. I don't think Sierra will film with either of them. And so the network wants her on the show and. And fired them.

[B]

I don't think it's her. I think it's Kyle.

[A]

No, no, I think it's her.

[B]

You think so?

[A]

Kyle, like, has love for Amanda. If you. Do you watch the reunion. Yeah, Like, I think he's willing to, like, talk through and, like, work through everything, you know, he just wants to keep talking about things and, you know, feeling things. Sierra's done. So Sierra won't live in a house with them. How could she? You can't have the three of them on Summer House. So who would you choose? They chose Ciara. That's really what it is.

[B]

I understand. That might make sense to me. Yeah, that might make sense to me. Ciara seems lovely. I think that, like, Amanda and West collectively might be more entertaining.

[A]

Right.

[B]

But it wouldn't have been fair. Okay. I think they did the right thing for her to be punished for them being ethically. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

From a entertainment standpoint, to be determined.

[B]

Yes. Agreed.

[A]

So are you ready for our next Story.

[B]

Yeah, I think, I think that was a lovely. We. We did good there.

[A]

You think so? I don't know. I'm like nervous for what people are going to say, but I just like.

[B]

No, we. We spoke.

[A]

Feel bad for her.

[B]

No, I, I think we, we gave Grace. I think we covered it.

[A]

Yeah. Our next story, a breakdown of Taylor and Travis's 30 million dollar Madison Square Garden wedding has been revealed. So we never. About Taylor and Travis's wedding since it's happened. Yes. But the rumors are saying it was a $30 million with roughly 5 million alone spent on florals and decor. Yeah, I'm sure. Like transforming, of course MSG into a secret garden.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Cost $5 million plus 30 total. How much would you have thought they spent?

[B]

Way more. 30 seems light, especially for the amount of security renting out the Garden. I don't know what any of that costs, but at first when I heard that they were doing it at the Garden, I was like, they're not doing it at the Garden. Like, why the fuck would you get married at Madison Square Garden? You're gonna get married on the court. And then I realized, like, how stupid are you? Like, you remove the court and it's just an enormous, very, very secure. Nobody gets in or out. No drones, no nothing.

[A]

But in terms of like, usable spaces for ceremony, reception, don't you only have the court to work with?

[B]

You remove all of those chairs.

[A]

No. Like the nix court.

[B]

No, I'm saying. So there's the nix court. Then there's the bleachers behind which you can all retract.

[A]

You can take them. And it's not sloped.

[B]

No, it's not sloped. The chairs build up. Oh, so it just becomes.

[A]

So you have the whole 100 section

[B]

as well, at least on the baseline.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I don't know. I don't know. On the sides. I know. At least courtside is chairs. So it widens.

[A]

We're talking about inches with courtside.

[B]

Yeah, you're right. Courtside would be like the size of this room.

[A]

Right. So, like, if you can remove the 100 section and level it.

[B]

I don't know if you can remove all of it. I know you can remove a lot of. A lot of court and a lot of square footage and create plenty of room for a large event.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

But it's a very strange venue choice.

[A]

Well, I mean, it worked out perfectly. They had complete privacy, they had security. They. Everyone got in and out and we haven't seen anything. There was no helicopters, drones overhead. Yeah, they got exactly what they want.

[B]

I guess they got exactly what they wanted.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, it was a strange choice, but like, I think it was the right choice for.

[B]

It was the right choice.

[A]

We still haven't seen anything.

[B]

No, and you probably won't unless. Unless they filmed it or I think you're like, you'll see it on their time.

[A]

Yes. Yes. I hope that she shares. Yeah. Everyone's just been along on the journey.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

For as long as she's been famous. Almost 20 years.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Like she's the ultimate romantic and she found her Romeo. Like, I'm sorry, we need a picture.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, true. Oh, there isn't even a picture.

[A]

No. We don't know what she wore.

[B]

Oh, wow. That's crazy. Yeah, I didn't even think about that.

[A]

We don't know what the inside looks like.

[B]

We know who performed.

[A]

Paul McCartney and Stevie Nicks and Taylor Swift and she sang at the rehearsal dinner.

[B]

Got it.

[A]

Yeah, got it. So what'd you think about anything that you saw so far?

[B]

I think. I don't think I saw anything.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, but just like what you saw, what'd you think?

[B]

I thought it was a weird choice for a venue. And I. I don't know, like, you're gonna. You have unlimited money and you're gonna drag everybody to Penn station in like

[A]

July 4th weekend in the middle of a heat wave.

[B]

Oh, yeah. That's also a really, really great point. Taylor Swift did one of, in my opinion, the rudest things one can do. If you invite me to a Memorial Day weekend wedding, a July 4th weekend wedding, a Labor Day weekend wedding, a Thanksgiving Eve wedding, if you take away my days that I have been given off by corporate America, self servingly for you, that's fucked up.

[A]

So if you were invited, you wouldn't have gone?

[B]

Of course I would have gone.

[A]

We wouldn't have gone.

[B]

It doesn't mean that it's right. You don't have to do July 4th weekend. You can do the weekend before July 4th weekend so that people can spend July 4th the way that they want to spend July 4th, not the way that you want them to spend July 4th. You know, Paul McCartney might have wanted to grill, maybe he wanted to sit out, flip some burgers, listen to some tunes. You go to his house, he's 100% playing acoustic, you know, and he loves that. Yeah, he loves that. And he wasn't able to do that because he was in Manhattan in 100 degrees on somebody else's timeline.

[A]

I wouldn't mind the July 4th wedding at like a Destination. Where I want to spend July 4th, I guess.

[B]

But like, you don't put yourself in the shoes of somebody who is given. They work a 9 to 5 job. They are given off truly 10 days a year. Major holidays. You're gonna steal one of those for somebody's wedding? It's not nice.

[A]

It's like in Nantucket. And there's like a room block with a discounted hotel room in Nantucket.

[B]

Just do it the week before.

[A]

But you're not.

[B]

Did she pay for everybody to come? She better have.

[A]

No, but we're also not talking about people who work a standard nine to five who get 10 days off.

[B]

No, I'm saying in general. Sure. For this Stu. For this wedding. I almost said stupid wedding. But I don't want anybody coming for me. For this beautiful wedding.

[A]

Stupendous wedding.

[B]

For this stupendous wedding where everybody invited, like, lives in an alternative reality. Absolutely. I guess it doesn't matter. But I do think that a lot of them probably would have wanted to

[A]

hang out with Michael Rubin. Had to move up his white party. See, people are suffering.

[B]

Yeah, they are. They are suffering. So that's so interesting. That's why he did it on Wednesday. I was thinking to myself, what the hell are you doing?

[A]

And he literally said it too. Like to People magazine. He said, I didn't want people to have to choose between Taylor's wedding and the party. Because of course they would have chosen the wedding.

[B]

I don't know. That party looks fun.

[A]

Oh, you would have chosen the party.

[B]

No, it's a moment in time party. Happens every year.

[A]

And Claudia's your wife.

[B]

She is. Claudia is my wife. My sick birthday wife birthday.

[A]

I wonder how she's feeling.

[B]

Should we sing her Happy Birthday?

[A]

Sure.

[B]

What pitch do you want? And which one do you want? Like the Stevie Wonder?

[A]

No, I think I want the classic. And you, you start the pitch and I'll sort of like harmonize.

[B]

Happy birthday to you Happy birthday to you Happy birthday dear Muffalish Frederick Turdy Lou Free Bush. Happy birthday to you. Wow.

[A]

She'll love that.

[B]

She'll love it. She'll never listen, but she'll love it.

[A]

We'll clip it for her.

[B]

We will.

[A]

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I didn't.

[A]

I feel like there's a lot you don't know about me.

[B]

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[A]

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[B]

No.

[A]

They set the rumor mill on fire after being spotted partying at a private club in London. So she is in London for Wimbledon. Lando is Lando.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And he's an F1 driver.

[B]

She's having fun. I know that F1 is like an enormous sport. Like people love it. It's super cool. It's basically nascar, but like not American. And I think cooler cars. The thing about nascar that I think they could use a new car like F1. They're driving like sick fucking Ferraris. Like NASCAR. It's built Ford tough. I don't know if it's Ford for sure, but I would just love to see a cool car. Cause that's really the only thing separating them, I guess.

[A]

It's definitely vibes, but I feel like NASCAR like has a great thing going on.

[B]

It does. It has a great thing. They don't need any of my help. I'm just saying. I'm just saying that if they wanted to keep F1 sort of out, they could attempt to have a racing league of their own that had like cool sporty cars.

[A]

But like, why keep F1 out? I feel like there's room for all of us, you know, there could be.

[B]

I'm sure that they like, like don't want a competitor.

[A]

But F1, I feel like F1 is sort of being like foisted upon me. They have like F1 Miami every year. It's always the same as a Kentucky Derby. And there's a lot of celebrities and like buzz. I don't know how many people like actually watch it or like, what's a lot in terms of like Mass attendance. And then they had an F1 movie that, like, was also shoved down our throats with songs from like, Tate McCray. And everybody made a song for the movie was. And that was a movie about F1 the League.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't know, but everyone's huge. It's like, it's soccer.

[A]

It's soccer. Right. But like, for America, like, they're doing the same thing that like, soccer's doing. It's like, sure. Like, yeah. Big in Miami.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Good luck out there.

[B]

The thing is F1, like, it's just if. If you like the idea of nascar, I think you're just like, it's just like a vibe here. Nascar.

[A]

Well, you could say the same thing about football. If you like the idea of football, try soccer.

[B]

It's not really vibe, Ier. It's actually the opposite. I think, like, American football is vibe, actually.

[A]

No, they both are vibey. It's all vibey.

[B]

It's all vibey.

[A]

Baseball's vibey. Hockey's vibey.

[B]

Sports are vibey.

[A]

Sports are vibey. Golf is vibey. I actually meant to ask you, like, what's going on with Liv? Liv?

[B]

Golf. He's dead. I mean, like, the Saudis were just like, we're not giving you any more money, so how.

[A]

I mean, I have to.

[B]

It was single handedly put on the backs of the prince or king. Crown prince of Saudi Arabia.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

He was like, I want a golf league, I'm going to fund it. He realized that, like, it seems like there's no path to making this a profitable, legitimate contender to the PGA Tour and he's cutting his losses.

[A]

It's over. I have to watch a new season of full swing to explain it to me fully. But, like, how do you think it reflects on the players who, like, went to live?

[B]

I mean, like, if you're offered money to go somewhere, like life changing money, I think you can leave a job and your job can take you back. Like, I don't take issue with it.

[A]

You don't think it makes them look bad?

[B]

I don't think it should make them look bad. Like, I keep, like, how many times am I gonna say corporate America in this podcast? But like, if you have a job, you're such a commie and you're offered a job that pays you ten times more.

[A]

Actually, that's not a commie, though.

[B]

You go there for two years, you made your money.

[A]

Am I the commie now?

[B]

You might be. And now the question is just like, will your old job take you back?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Will you be well received.

[A]

Do you think that they should.

[B]

I think that talent should rise to the top if you're incredibly talented.

[A]

They should have to earn their spots.

[B]

No, no, because they're amazing. Like, the ones who are truly amazing. Bryson DeChambeau, Jon Rahm, Phil Mickelson.

[A]

Gustin.

[B]

Yeah. Like, these are. These are unbelievable golfers.

[A]

Who's the other one?

[B]

They're with a B. Patrick Reed.

[A]

No, his wife is like, a model

[B]

B with a B. Yeah.

[A]

Dennis Sims is his wife.

[B]

Oh, Brooks Koepka.

[A]

Brooks with a B. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Brooks Kapka.

[B]

These are all amazing golfers who were offered insanely large sums of money to work less hard, and they said yes.

[A]

What do you think about Rory?

[B]

I hate him.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah. Just like. I think he just, like, is always just, like, so snooty, and I like him.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

No, I'm just, like. He's just, like, not it for me.

[A]

He did the right thing.

[B]

Who cares?

[A]

What about the right thing?

[B]

I don't know. Like, he's an ass sniffer. Like, brown noser. Why don't we call it an ass sniffer?

[A]

Brown noser did the right thing.

[B]

I don't think he needs to do the right thing. What about morals? Like, he doesn't owe anything to the league. What does he owe to the league? He's talent. He, like, they.

[A]

It was blood money.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

It's all about the human rights violations. It's all blood. What about the human rights violations?

[B]

It's all blood money. We can track the money. It's all blood. I'm sure, by the way, I'm sure that Saudi Arabia. This is not fact checked whatsoever. I'm sure they invested in the PGA Tour through some fundamentals.

[A]

Well, but, yeah, probably.

[B]

They have so much money. My favorite thing is, like, when we hear, like, oh, Elon Musk is the first trillionaire. And it's like, is he. How much fucking money do they have over there?

[A]

Oh, yeah, but he might be the first trillionaire.

[B]

I don't know. And I just think they have undocumented large sums of money.

[A]

Don't you think Elon should give me

[B]

a billion dollars just because he can?

[A]

Just because, like, don't you think.

[B]

Yeah, you should become friends with them. Try.

[A]

I just think he should.

[B]

You should work through May Musk. You and May could just, like, become like girls. Like swirly, like, hanging out, gardening, talking about Elon. And then you just, like, casually one day say, hey, you know, do you think your son would be missing a billion?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

If he gave it to me.

[A]

No, I don't. I just think, like. Like, he should give you a billion. Didn't he post good guys once?

[B]

Yes. Multiple times. Five separate times. Don't rub it in.

[A]

Don't rub it in.

[B]

Because we literally, like, did like, an ad for Starlink when we had Mr. Beast on.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And he loves that clip. And I've said, elon, please come on the show. You're more than welcome.

[A]

That would be great. That's a great guest for you guys.

[B]

We've met Elon. Claudia's met Elon. Has she ever told this story?

[A]

Yes, she has, but it was like, before he really, like, popped off 100%.

[B]

It's when he was just like, posts that, like, random inventor, PayPal and just the guy. He had everything that he has. Just a rich guy trying to go to space.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

At, like, it was a party in LA for, like, the. I think was like, the owner of the Rams or something. And we're. Me, Claudia, Elon. Pretty cool.

[A]

How fun.

[B]

We can keep in touch. He also used to. When he had an Instagram account, he followed me on Instagram. Do you know that?

[A]

That's funny.

[B]

Big meme guy.

[A]

Oh, I. I know Big meme guy.

[B]

But he deleted his Instagram, so he no longer follows me.

[A]

Well, speaking of other geniuses. Love Island.

[B]

Yeah, we gotta recap it.

[A]

Let's recap. Love Island. Last night was family night, and we got some. We got, like, you know, stuff. Like, it was a real. It was an episode that felt like a real episode. Now, I did say earlier in the week that because I dislike these people so much, I actually am not interested in meeting their families. Like, I don't want to know where they came from and how they, like, got to be these awful people that they are. I'm walking that back. I loved meeting their families. I thought it gave, like, so much, like, context to each individual. It strengthened so many relationships. For example, Kenzie and Dylan, like, that's exactly how a family meet should go. Like, you really get a lot of. I don't know that Kenzie and Dylan are, like, meant to be. Are going to stay together forever. But, like, in that moment, I think, you know, their family's liking each other. It affirms your relationship so much. I think Kenzie came off amazingly when she, like, pulled the mother, you know, woman to woman, she had. It was just like, that's how a family day should go. Like, we are stronger because of it. When they were all, like, crying, seeing their parents, like, I actually was like, Wanting to cry because they're literally have been like, dumped on this island in this, like, like psychological torture chamber. And also, I guess they've also been, like, semi forgotten because there's like, the producers just, like, sure have a lot going on. And, like, I feel like they've just been, like, left there. And so when they were all crying, seeing their parents, like, that was actually very emotional.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And you could really feel that. And I felt like everyone's. Everyone's parents did an amazing job of, like, saying what needed to be said.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We will obviously get to Melanie and sincere last, but just like, touching on everyone else, of course. Like, Bryce's grandma was the queen, the goat, the queen of the night. I would say Queenie. Queenie of Love Island. Seeing, like, how him and Trinity's families, like, were so happy for them and, like, and I think what was so good to see was, like, the difference they could see in their children. Like, yeah, I can see this is the right relationship with you. I felt the same way about Kate and Zach. I know they've been through it, but like, Kate, his mom. And it's so true what Kate, his mom said. Like, she said, Kate is so happy. She's always laughing, she's always smiling. And it's true. She is so day to day in the villa. She's a happy person. This isn't a relationship that's, like, sucking the life out of her. Yeah, she's had sad moments. She cried when she saw Zach kissing the girl at Casa. But, like, generally speaking, this relationship, like, makes her very happy and very bubbly. And if I'm her family, I am happy for her. They called him out on the couple of weird comments that he made. I think seeing him speak to his family also gave to color to, like, his weird personality. Even when Char. Oh, my God, how did I not mention Charlie? His brother Charlie was there and Charlie was like, you love her, bro. And he's like, no, I don't. I really like her. And, like, in the way that he was saying it, he loves her. Do you know what I mean?

[B]

100%.

[A]

It's just how. But on paper, if you read, no, I don't love her. Like, you're like, oh, he hates her. But when you see him, it's like, that's just how he speaks.

[B]

And then he doubled back. He was like, no, I don't love her. Oh, actually, like, like, I love her. Like, I think he really loves her.

[A]

Yeah, I think they.

[B]

I think I do. I think he loves her. I think he's really scared of the amount that he likes this girl. You could tell that when he was at Casa thinking that she, like, thought that he was like, like, I don't know, like, being inappropriate with another girl. Like, he was freaking out. And I don't think that it's because, like, he thought that she'd be angry at him. I think he was freaking out because he didn't want to lose her. I think he's, like, very aware that he has a great girl. I think that I agree with you. Bryson. Trinity, great, like, and his grandma is just, like, the best. And it just showed, like, how nice of a guy Bryce is.

[A]

Yeah. And he's, like, just crying, just talking about her. Like, that's a quality guy.

[B]

I think it made Carlin and I better. Like, I, I don't. I don't think. I haven't thought that they were like, the strongest couple. I think I always thought that, like, oh, she loves Casey. They brought back Carl. Like, what really is going on here? And then, like, when you saw their families here, they're like, oh, you know, they, they. They look like a. They look like a nice match.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And Carl's mom is. She is, first of all, what is she, 6, 8? She's huge.

[A]

I didn't clock the height.

[B]

And she seems like a lovely woman.

[A]

Lovely lady. No. I would say Carl and I had a similar experiences, like Casey and Dylan, where it really, like, firms up their relationship, like, solidifies for Anaya, and I

[B]

think the same thing for Kate. For Kenzie.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It looked to me, unless they were just being awkward, it seemed like Kenzie got everything that she needed to push the relationship forward. And the second she did that, I felt like Dylan took a step back.

[A]

Oh, you. Yeah. You said last night as we were watching, like, it feels like he doesn't like her.

[B]

Feels like he doesn't like her. And then the same thing sort of happened with Carl. It's like Aniah finally unleashed the floodgates, met the family felt really good about it. And then Carl was kind of standoffish.

[A]

You think so?

[B]

I definitely feel that way about Dylan. I don't think Dylan likes Kenzie anymore.

[A]

That's so interesting.

[B]

Maybe Carl is just. He has an interesting personality that I can't read.

[A]

But I also think when you're on that show, there's always, like, a piece of you that's like, is this person who they say they are? What are they doing behind my back? You know, does America like them? Does my family like them? And so when your family Comes in and is like, he's. We've seen everything that you haven't seen. He's great. We like him for you. I think that just, like, accelerates you so much because it's like that missing piece of, like, of course, your friends and family and what do they think?

[B]

Of course. And that happened for Kenzie and I think that for Dylan, it just. It might have scared him.

[A]

I don't know. I feel like Dylan might have expected that his family would be like, get away from this girl. Like, she's the explorer and blah, blah, blah. And the fact that they were like, give her. Like, no one knows what it's like to be in this position. She's handled everything as best as she can. Like, no.

[B]

His mom seemed lovely.

[A]

She was lovely. I really liked her approach with Kenzie. I thought it was so sweet. I thought all of the parents, like, like, gave amazing sound advice. It's crazy that some of their children have wound up the way that they have. I just want to give a shout out to Mrs. Harvey because she came in with the energy that we needed. I actually feel like she's a toaster because she was, like, happy for Anaya, blah, blah, blah. But, like, 1. Why did you pick Casey after Casa? She, like, would not let that go. She's like, what. What were you doing? Why didn't you pick her? Like, and it's so true. Like, that was such a horrible moment for Anaya and that didn't mean to happen because she had been embarrassed time and time again by Casey and, like, why did you do that? Like, why did you. And then when she was like, you're not being a good friend to Melanie. You're just saying these things because you want her to stay and you have a friendship with Sincere, but those are not the things that she needs to hear. Like, thank you.

[B]

Totally.

[A]

No, thank you.

[B]

She. She hit the nail on the head.

[A]

Game changing.

[B]

Yeah, she hit the nail on the head. And then Anaya, like, kind of felt dumb. She. She also said, which we should talk about Melanie and Sincere. But she also called an eye on Melanie and sincere.

[A]

Yeah, that's what you just said.

[B]

Oh, sorry, I blacked out. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. Agreed, Agreed. Agreed with that. Agreed. Yeah, agreed. Yeah, that was. That. That needed to happen actually, before we get there, Casey and Titi, only thing that I'll say, I. I love them. I think that they're great. Titi scares me a little.

[A]

There's a couple red flags have been raised.

[B]

The thing with TT is just looking, just watching the show knowing nothing else. She seems great. The fact that she says that she's never had a boyfriend, the fact that she says that she has no friends, and the fact that she's pulled a gun on somebody, these things make me curious and. But on the surface, they look like a good match and they. When I just watched the show, they seem cute and lovely and.

[A]

Yeah, I really do like them too. I agree those things are, like, slight red flags. But you know what? Like, sometimes just you haven't met the right person and you feel like shooting someone,

[B]

sometimes you just get that itch to pull a gun.

[A]

Yeah. You forget a little trigger. No, I know. I'm like, I'm. I agree with what you've said, but I really, like, like their connection.

[B]

Yeah, me too.

[A]

I will say the last episode has. And I don't know, maybe it's just online discourse too, has made me, like, really come around to Zach and Kada and their refusal to do Boyfriend Girlfriend. I've seen, like, a lot of people, people talking about how the fact, like, on this show, exclusive and closing off is what you do. Like, even the most legitimate couples who have come from the show, they didn't leave as boyfriend and girlfriend. They dated in the real world and then became boyfriend and girlfriend. And yet the idea that they're all running around being like, he's my boyfriend and like, you did meet two weeks ago, that doesn't actually make you more serious. It kind of makes it more of a joke. And I don't know where exactly I fall in, like, what. How people should be going about. And I like that Trinity and Bryce went boyfriend girlfriend, but it does not mean that Zach and Kate needed to do the same thing. I actually have more respect for them for the fact that they're not just like, like, copying what other people are doing and they're moving in the pace that, like, feels normal for them in this super abnormal situation.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I just want to, like, let them breathe. I've always. I've never had a real issue with them, but I think even all the things that have, like, come up about Zach over the last few weeks, I'm kind of, like, ready to just, like, let them go. They are so happy. I always, like, they like each other so much. Everybody likes him in the villa. Like, I think he's made a couple of comments that, like, came off poorly on tv, but, like, it's such so impossible. Like, maybe he's not rude, maybe he's just Australian.

[B]

I can't even imagine being filmed 247 for six weeks.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You can't breathe.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, you can't say anything. You can't. Like, you have to filter every thought. Like, it's just. Yeah. I think that, like, I think we have to give a little bit of grace. And he. He's been near perfect.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The only person who's been truly perfect. Bryce has been perfect. I don't know if he's, like, media trained, if he's just an amazing, amazing, amazing guy.

[A]

He's 30.

[B]

Yeah. And he. And he knew coming in, he said that he was a model. Like, maybe he knows, like, a little bit about the entertainment industry. Like, it's very, very clear that he is very, very aware that everybody that he knows is watching the show and that he will watch it back, and he wants to be proud of it.

[A]

It's not even hard.

[B]

And sincere, clearly, because I want to talk about them. Clearly forgot that everybody in the world is watching this show.

[A]

Yeah. Before we get to sincere, I just want to say Charlie.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Brother Charlie.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

He did not seem, well.

[B]

No, he seemed a little. A little hopped up on something. Yeah, he seemed like, you know.

[A]

Yeah. That's not the Charlie I remember.

[B]

He looked like he was on speed.

[A]

Yeah. He was very weird to see, like, the siblings together.

[B]

Very weird.

[A]

It was a very, like. I know we're here to talk about, like, the family's mountains is here, but, like, Zach and Charlie was, like, a lot.

[B]

No. And the sister, I just like.

[A]

And then the sister who's like, I don't know, Jack. Like, she's just. The two of them combined in the wig.

[B]

No, they all just looked. They all look really. They looked like twins.

[A]

Like triplets.

[B]

Like triplets.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It was like. It was really crazy to see Charlie back like that. And it's true. Like, Charlie literally lasted six on his season. His brother was an original villager and is staying till the end.

[B]

Yeah. His brother has a much better personality than Charlie. Like, Zach is, like, fun and bubbly. Charlie just, like, had an accent and, like, was with that girl Hannah. Like, he didn't do a lot. Like, Zach is funny, charismatic, nice. Like, playing the game, trying to, like, I think he's been great. Yeah, I think he's been great.

[A]

Okay. Melanie and Sincere. Finally, the chickens have come home to roost for them. Not only.

[B]

They haven't, by the way.

[A]

But wait. Not only did her mom and sister come there, and the mother confirmed, no, I wouldn't forgive this. Like, that was crazy that she said that on the highway. The sister said any. Everything that we would say to our own sisters, he's playing you. You deserve better. This will not end well. Like, begging her, begging her seriously crying and begging her to leave him. And then we don't really hear from her mom. And then when her mom finally does speak, it's like, like pearls, like just

[B]

like mic drop and just like in, in Spanish, like abuelita vibes. I can't explain it. Like, she just seemed like such, like a wholesome and her sister too. It seems like Melanie comes from such a sweet, level headed, nice family and the fact that she is tangled in this web where I think at this point we've gone overboard hard on sincere. They are on Love Island. They are allowed to talk to other people. He is an idiot. I mean, you hear it when he speaks. Like, not to be so harsh. Like, I just don't think he's a smart guy.

[A]

No, he's a very stupid person.

[B]

So he probably in the moment isn't thinking, oh, they are going to replay all of these conversations that I'm having with these girls. He isn't thinking, oh, everybody that I know is going to watch everything that

[A]

I am saying and see how insincere I truly am.

[B]

See how insincere I'm coming off.

[A]

No. And because everything that he's saying is a lie. Like, he's just saying, like, he actually, for all of his shitty analogies, he described it kind of well when he was like, I was trying on every relationship to like, see if they fit. So, like in every relationship and every connection, he's like going in, like, I'm all in. You know what I mean?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's like, so you start saying things as a person who's all in, but you have a girlfriend, like a girl right there. So how are you able? Like, why are you speaking like this to someone and not telling this person everything that they want to hear, which is actually hurting them to hear these things that they want to hear and they all turn out to be untrue. And then to do that once and then twice after being reamed out the first time. Like, the way that he's moving is just like, so, so phony and fake. And it's like, but I'm so glad his dad came. And it was crazy that his dad came because his dad had said, like, he didn't want to come because he

[B]

didn't want to, but he had to.

[A]

Also, people were pointing out to me earlier in the season, I think when we met him, Sincere said that he was like raised by his mom and his grandma. It's like, where are the mom and the grandma?

[B]

Probably really, really mortified.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Disappointed.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I was glad that that said when we. When the season opened, I think everybody forgets the fact that Sincere mentioned that he was a cheater.

[A]

Like, Right.

[B]

I just. There were red flags. I do think that he caught a girl in Melanie, that now that I have met her family, seems like she's just, like, sweet as sugar and was hit by a freight train.

[A]

But imagine, like, one of the things

[B]

and was love bombed.

[A]

Imagine watching your daughter or your child or your sister, like, go on the show and just get, like, stomped on like that.

[B]

It's insane.

[A]

And that person, like, won't speak up for themselves. And then, like, you finally get to them and you, like, shake them and you're like, you're better. You don't need this. And, like.

[B]

But she had. But she had nobody telling her that. That's what I thought was so interesting.

[A]

Yeah. Right, Right.

[B]

That conversation with Anaya. They're all of her best friends around her. Like, you go to your friends.

[A]

No, so. So up until this point, like, I can actually understand, like, you're in this, like, bubble, and you actually do like to Sincere, you have fun with him. So, like, it's hard to, like, walk away from that. You'll be heartbroken. But, like, the people that you love and trust, most have seen everything. Yes. You haven't seen. And they're coming to you and they're shaking you. Like, like, let us, like, she could literally leave with her mom and sister right now. She would be the hero.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We'd all be rooting for her.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then the fact that she, like, goes back to the dressing rooms getting dressed, like, you know, oh, how do acting like she's one of the other couples, seriously, like, we just had family day. Oh, yeah. They were tough on them. And then she, like, goes to have this conversation with Sincere. Same with that, like, not. She's obviously not ending things with him. And instead she says, you have one more chance, and if you do it to me again, I will never speak to you again. I'll be dead to you. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And even on his face in that moment, he's not even like, thank you for this one chance. I will not let you down. I know what I. He literally looks overwhelmed. Like, well, like, how. How can I live up to. How am I never going to up again? Because he's a up. But also, even a perfect person would up in some way let someone down. Like, there's just no way that they're going to be successful. So, sure, I guess, like, give it three more days or five more days, what's the difference? But at least you would have your dignity. If you end it now, at least America will be on your side as opposed to, like, you go home, you see him DMing other girls and then you end it and it's like, well, nobody feels bad for you because you had your. This was her moment. And I think now. And we were all. We all would have been behind her. I think, like, if you think about, you know, Q score and, like, brand deals and all that, like, she would have been the hero. Finally, Melanie leaves Sincere after seeing, you know, reality from her family and said she turned on her sister. Her sister crying to her mother crying to her.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And she chose Sincere out of the people closest to her in this world. This person of three weeks who's been nothing but shit to her. Goodbye. Yeah, goodbye.

[B]

You're right.

[A]

I'm not rooting for you.

[B]

No. Even though she's under a love bomb spell, she is.

[A]

But her parent, her family came to take her out of the spell. They had the magic potion.

[B]

They did. And then in. I said to her what needed to be said, which was I was being a bad friend.

[A]

I'm a little too late. And I'm glad Melanie said that it

[B]

was too little too late.

[A]

I'm glad Melanie said. How can you say this to me now? Like, like, when that's all of a sudden I'm supposed to flip like that when you guys have been coaching the complete opposite direction.

[B]

100. Yeah, agreed.

[A]

So I'm, I'm done with Melanie as well. Now the two of them can go off together. And I don't care if they end. They break up tomorrow or the next day or when they come home. She missed her. Her. She had a lot of opportunities to, like, save herself. She missed the last, like, boat that was coming.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And now it's done.

[B]

So Trinity and Bryce are obviously winning the show.

[A]

Yeah. So, of course, it's so fun to, like, see what everyone says and, like, keep up with the odds. I've been checking Polymarket to see who they think is going to win. And it's funny because, like, they've had Trinity and Bryce is, like, the highest percentage. And then after the Family Night episode, they've gone up even more, I think. Now seeing everything that we've seen. Who do you think is going to win?

[B]

I think it's Trinity and Bryce. I think that, like, bringing Bryce's mom and grandma coming. Like, it's such a green flag for the women in your life to show up. Like, I actually thought, like, for Melanie, like, two guys showing up for sincere was very telling. She might not have seen it that way, but your mom comes. Like, if your mom. If you're close to your mom, your mom's able to. Your mom comes, and then your mom can really vouch for your character. And just hearing Bryce talk about how his grandma is his everything, she's so cute and funny and outspoken. Like, that should have given all of the confidence in the world to Trinity, that Bryce is a good guy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I understand why it went up. I definitely think that they're gonna win. I think that Kayda and Bryce, Kate and Bryce, Kate and Zach would be second for me. I think they're very real. I think that the distance is something that nobody wants to talk about. Like, they live in different countries.

[A]

But I do think after this, everyone's moving to LA maybe, you know.

[B]

Yeah, that's fair.

[A]

I think even when, like, Trinity and Bryce were talking about how, oh, we're long distance, and he's like, I don't see you being in Virginia. I feel like you're gonna be with me. Like, they all do move to la, then they do beyond the villa with Peacock, and so I think we have to worry about that a little bit less.

[B]

So then both of them, I think, are good options. I don't think Kenzie and Dylan have a chance.

[A]

I don't think Melanie.

[B]

They're not making sure. And. Oh, top four.

[A]

Well, no top. The finals will be top four, and then the winners will be.

[B]

So this is interesting. I guess top four is Casey and TT I don't know.

[A]

So the public does not like Casey. His odds are not good, really. I think for the public, their relationship

[B]

seems more real, I guess Kenzie, I

[A]

think for the public, up until yesterday would have been Melanie and sincere.

[B]

They're done. But now, actually, it probably kind of loves them. Maybe he hasn't crossed that invisible line.

[A]

Maybe they have not. Well, that. This is why Poly Market is so fun. They have pop culture markets for people who are as obsessed as us. You can see what percentage of people are feeling what and really get a little bit of a. Of a teaser and a preview and insight into who will win. Now, of course, they have Bryce and Trinity as the majority for the odds of who will win. And after Family Night, that just went up. But keeping up with Poly Market is so much fun, as you are a pop culture obsessed person. Like us. So polymarket is now available in the US App Store. You can trade on culture, entertainment and more all in one place. Download the app and use code toast to get $50 to trade when you make a qualifying $20 deposit. Also, if you want to hear us dig into these sorts of markets even more, check out Dear Media and Poly Markets podcast, what are the Odds? Hosted by me, Claude and a few other film familiar faces. New episodes drop every Friday, which is so fun. So yeah, following the Polymarket, following what the streets are saying the odds via polymarket is a great way, a great companion to Love island, especially as we get down to the ringer here.

[B]

Yeah, it's fun.

[A]

It is.

[B]

It's absolutely fun.

[A]

Well, that's your Love island recap. It is Friday. There is more tonight. Oh, yeah, tonight. Oh, they have their dinner and we're gonna find out the final four tonight. Yeah.

[B]

I'm exhausted.

[A]

We're so close to being done.

[B]

I know, but like, can't you just release them earlier than 8:30? It monopolizes my whole night.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

If it just starts at 7:30, what a game changer that would be. Then even the longest episodes done at 9. I don't feel like my night's stolen from me.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

8:30 to sometimes 10:30. That's a stolen night.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

We do get Taylor Swift on July 4th.

[A]

We did get to mash a little before. Why you still asked me, by the

[B]

way, I'm pretty good at mahjong.

[A]

You are good.

[B]

No, I know. I just like, feel like the people need to know that, like, I'm pretty good at mahjong.

[A]

No, you're like a.

[B]

Especially considering that, like, I really don't play that much. I'm pretty good.

[A]

I feel like you play. I play sometimes a good amount. I don't feel like I play much more than you.

[B]

You don't think so? No, I think that, like in this house. No. But I don't play it all at home.

[A]

You don't play with Claudia and the girls?

[B]

Maybe one night, like. But no, I don't. I'm not a daytime player.

[A]

Got it. Got it.

[B]

That would be fun.

[A]

Yeah, I would love to be. And we should match today for Claudia's birthday. She'll love that. That'll make her feel better.

[B]

Yeah. Hopefully we'll maj. Bedside. Bedside maj. Well, thank you so much

[A]

for joining us for a little impromptu wunge and swunge on the podcast.

[B]

It was fantastic. I hope that everybody has a wonderful weekend.

[A]

Yes, I hope you do as well.

[B]

I wish everybody a shabbat Shalom.

[A]

Yes, me as well.

[B]

I hope that you cook something great tonight. And what are you making?

[A]

What's your menu?

[B]

I'm making brisket. I'm making skirt steak, maybe some veggies, some rice. A hearty feast for my sweet wife, for cojourner Fred. And she's going to get a kick ass present tonight.

[A]

Oh, so she for me. So she for me.

[B]

She's gonna get some kick ass presents tonight. And yeah, that's really all that's going on. Listen to the Good Guys podcast.

[A]

Listen to the jeej. Once you've completed the toast. Toast Patreon and the redheads.

[B]

Once you've completed the toast. Maybe before the redheads you can absolutely listen to the Good Guys podcast. It's fantastic. We have great guests on. If you're looking for something to drink this weekend, head to Target and get Skinny Spritz. It is absolutely delicious. 100 calories and no sugar. And stay abreast for all of our secret projects. They're secretive, but at some point they won't be.

[A]

One day they won't be.

[B]

And I can say that the biggest secret project is really awesome.

[A]

Okay, okay. Let's leave it at that.

[B]

Is that good?

[A]

That's good. Thank you so much for listening to the toast. We love you dearly and we will see you on Monday. Love ya.

[B]

Bye.