Jackie (1:47)

One like that's like disabled, like, why.

Turdy (1:51)

Do some camels have one hump and other camels have two humps? Question mark?

Jackie (1:55)

They don't.

Turdy (1:56)

I feel like they do. The difference comes down to species and where the camels live. There are two main kinds of camels. Drome dairy camels, one hump and Bactrian camels. Two humps. That's so funny because I was reading about drome dairies last night. You were in the Babar book.

Jackie (2:15)

Lol. Okay, like, this is type of conversation information you're only gonna get here at the toes. Like, my God, why? Why aren't you listening yet? Even though if you're hearing this like.

Turdy (2:24)

You are, the hump day to Babar pipeline is very real. Is very real. So drone dairy capital next time. If Hart asked me, what's drum dairy? Thank God he didn't ask me last night.

Jackie (2:35)

I didn't know. Just, like, fun facts about Jackie and I. Like, we have ridden camels. Like, if you're a modern Jewess, like, you've been to Israel, like, part of. Like. Like, when your first trip to Israel, like, you go to see Masada, you go to the Dead Sea, you ride a camel. I think I've ridden a camel, like, a multitude of times.

Turdy (2:52)

Yeah.

Jackie (2:52)

Literally. Call me Countess Luanne. I've ridden a camel more than once. Yeah. Yeah. Hobby B, bitch.

Turdy (2:59)

Yeah, like, multiple. Multiple times. I kind of, like, I'm always riding camels.

Jackie (3:03)

It's actually insane how much the Real Houses of New York trip to Morocco, like, shaped me as a young woman. As you guys know, like, me and my high school friends, we watched High school Real Houses in New York, like, in high school growing up, and it literally, like, made us who we are. Specifically their trip. There were so many iconic moments from that trip. Luann getting thrown off the camel and then her just, like, learning the word yahabi be and making it her entire personality. And then, of course, the Herman Munster shoes.

Turdy (3:27)

That was in Morocco.

Jackie (3:29)

I believe even Louis Vuitton makes mistakes.

Turdy (3:30)

I feel like that was in.

Jackie (3:32)

I feel like it might have been. No, because they were on a trip together. So you came down the stairs in your Herman Munster shoes. But maybe the shoes were on the trip. But I think it was, like when they went to St. Bart's or something.

Turdy (3:43)

I feel like it was more local. No, she wasn't wearing Herman shoes. Herman munster shoes in St. Bart's even.

Jackie (3:50)

Louis Vuitton makes mistakes. Literally. So good.

Turdy (3:54)

Bruno, you look like a drum dairy.

Jackie (3:57)

You look like a drum dairy.

Turdy (4:00)

Oh, Bruno, get up here. We've got work to do.

Jackie (4:03)

Get to. Today is an excellent show. Not to, you know, brag our own horn, but we've got a lot going on. The stories, Dancing with the Stars, Wicked Night recap was on last night. Literally best night of my life.

Turdy (4:15)

Yeah, that was fun. I watched Molly May, Season two, Part one. Just very enjoyable. But Molly's very stressed out.

Jackie (4:24)

I told you. Molly can't find anything to wear to the l' Oreal fashion show.

Turdy (4:27)

She needs to listen to the toast.

Jackie (4:30)

I know. And how do we recommend it to her without, like, seeing. Seeming, like, self involved?

Turdy (4:34)

I don't know how we even get to her. I have, like, literally, it's as if I live on a different planet from her. Like, there are a Lot of people who are like, we're in the same orbit. We have a mutual friend. We have a similar age and whatever. I have no connection to my. I kind of like it that way because I can really just like, be a true fan. But. Yeah, she has no idea what the toast is. I don't think she ever would.

Jackie (4:52)

And that's why she's feeling overwhelmed and not in her best self.

Turdy (4:55)

Yeah. No. And also, she's, like, very overwhelmed by motherhood. That was a very big theme. Theme of the show. And I just feel like she would like our swirly take on it 1000%.

Jackie (5:04)

If you or someone, you know, knows Molly may center this episode.

Turdy (5:07)

Yeah. Or just like, a mom who needs a little bit of, like, light and laughter, like, you know, just to, like, take the edge off.

Jackie (5:14)

Thousand percent.

Turdy (5:15)

The toast.

Jackie (5:16)

The terse.

Turdy (5:17)

No, I don't.

Jackie (5:18)

Or as they call it, the crumpet.

Turdy (5:20)

I don't know one. Like, if I needed to reach Molly Mae, I couldn't think of one way to get there.

Jackie (5:27)

Yeah. She's also, like, super private. It's just, like, she hangs out with her family and that's it.

Turdy (5:31)

Yeah. Baseball and her mom and her friends.

Jackie (5:34)

Is that bad? Iconic reference.

Turdy (5:38)

Thank you so much.

Jackie (5:40)

What movie do you think we quote the most here at the Terse?

Turdy (5:44)

Mean Girls. Mean Girls. Yeah. It's cliche for a reason. We quote other movies, too. Like Sleepover. Some of the greats.

Jackie (5:51)

Right.

Turdy (5:51)

And more indie films.

Jackie (5:53)

Yeah. Yeah.

Turdy (5:54)

Do quote Mean Girls the most. It's the most.

Jackie (5:58)

It's the most quotable. And the thing is, Mean Girls is the best movie ever made. It's insane to me that Tina Fey literally didn't get a Nobel Peace Prize for that movie. It is the greatest piece of cinema ever made. It literally made. Made us who we are.

Turdy (6:14)

Yeah. It's, like, not even chewy to, like, love it. It's just that good.

Jackie (6:19)

They tried to remake it, like, for the kids, and the kids were like, no, we actually prefer the original.

Turdy (6:22)

Yeah, that was a low point.

Jackie (6:24)

I would say that. Mean Girls. Clueless. We also quote a lot.

Turdy (6:28)

Legally Blonde.

Jackie (6:31)

Those. And Sleepover.

Turdy (6:32)

And Sleepover.

Jackie (6:33)

Julie. Julie Corky.

Turdy (6:35)

And then we just have, like, random ones.

Jackie (6:37)

Yeah. Like my cousin Vinnie or, like, 13.

Turdy (6:39)

Going on 30, even though that's not really that.

Jackie (6:40)

Oh, no. Theater going on 30 goes in the panthenon, I think.

Turdy (6:44)

Yeah, we quoted a lot.

Jackie (6:46)

Yeah. I'm going to a party in a limo.

Turdy (6:49)

She's Lucy Wyman now.

Jackie (6:53)

Quoting movies is my favorite.

Turdy (6:55)

Like, mine as well.

Jackie (6:57)

There was a time I haven't really seen Mean Girls in a while, but there was a time when like, you know, we would need to watch a movie and we would watch it like every night. And if you were like ever in the room with me when that movie was on, like, you wanted to leave that room. Like, I knew every word to the entire movie. I probably don't now.

Turdy (7:12)

That's like that movie where they go to cheer camp and they play Bring it On for the campers and the whole camp is quoting every single line. Bring it on is also very quotable.

Jackie (7:23)

Is it? I feel like we. It's not. No. Stick it.

Turdy (7:27)

We love Stick It.

Jackie (7:29)

Stick it's kind of indie.

Turdy (7:31)

Stick it is indie.

Jackie (7:34)

Bra shot. Ow. Not Me and my big nursing bra. Yeah. Those are like the best movies ever. And like, that's why I don't know what kids these days watch and like, are inspired by and raised by. But, like, my whole worldview was curated by Clueless, Legally Blonde, Mean Girl, Stick It, Sleepover. And like, that's why I'm an amazing, hilarious, cool person. Do you know what I mean?

Turdy (7:59)

Yeah. I think they're being shaped by K pop demon hunters at the moment.

Jackie (8:03)

Well, actually, it doesn't seem like the worst thing I saw this tick tock. It was actually very analytical about, like the collapse of young adult media and how like, because somebody made a tick tock and was like, who are like the girlies of Disney Channel right now? Like, we all were raised with Selena, Demi, Hannah, and who are the girls right now? And somebody who's like, there aren't any, like, due to like social media TikTok, it has really collapsed this genre of teen media that we were all raised by and we look back on. So finally that like doesn't exist now. There are shows, you know, being churned out on Disney and Nick, but it's not this like tween culture, tween obsession.

Turdy (8:37)

No. And it's also not really happening on Disney and Nick is more so like summer I turn pretty is right.

Jackie (8:43)

And that's like scary because they're happening on adult platforms.

Turdy (8:47)

Very scary.

Jackie (8:48)

So it's like you get Amazon prime to watch a summary turn pretty and then you have access to like Molly Mason documentary. Right, sure. That's what they're watching at night.

Turdy (8:57)

That's a really bad influence.

Jackie (9:00)

So yeah, the collapse of tween media is very real.

Turdy (9:02)

Speaking of movies, you know what movie I watched this weekend? I didn't even tell you. I'm so private.

Jackie (9:06)

I'm already watched a movie that's so crazy.

Turdy (9:09)

I know.

Jackie (9:09)

What?

Turdy (9:10)

Downton Abbey. What did you think? I thought it was adorable, like, to see everyone back together. Literally nothing happened. The plot was thinner than a plot of an episode of the show.

Jackie (9:21)

It was a bad plot.

Turdy (9:22)

There was, like, no plot.

Jackie (9:25)

But I was glad Mary is considered taboo because she's getting divorced.

Turdy (9:29)

So we're gonna have a dinner party for her. That's literally an episode of the show. We're gonna have a dinner party, and everyone who, like, in the last movie was, like, retiring and, like, move on, like, this came back in this movie. It was their last day.

Jackie (9:43)

Yeah, right, okay. But I love that they're milking it for all it's worth. Like, it's that type of franchise where they really can't ever do anything wrong. So, yeah, like, just get everyone back together and put a camera on. I'm. I'm down.

Turdy (9:53)

Yeah. No, I agree. But it's just, like, funny. Who have become, like, the mainstays because they used to, like, have a dinner every night. They would have, like, dinner, and there were so many people there. But now the family's, like, kind of pared down, and now, like, Mr. Mason's at the table.

Jackie (10:10)

Mr. Mason.

Turdy (10:12)

Pat Moore's husband.

Jackie (10:14)

Yes, Ms. Pat. And nerdy.

Turdy (10:17)

When Pat Moore and Elsie. Elsie were, like, having sex talk.

Jackie (10:24)

Yeah. I was uncomfortable.

Turdy (10:25)

Like, a swirly sex chat. Oh, my God, it was cracking.

Jackie (10:29)

Speaking of Elsie, Elsie Hewitt, who is Pete Davidson's girlfriend and mother of his future child. You know, she used to date Betty Blanco.

Turdy (10:41)

I know that. Selena said he traded, like, some trash for treasure or something.

Jackie (10:44)

Yeah. Selena Gomez, like, liked a Tick Tock. That was, like, nasty about Elsie.

Turdy (10:48)

Shocker.

Jackie (10:50)

Yeah.

Turdy (10:50)

Then she'll say she got hacked. Yeah.

Jackie (10:52)

No, Elsie's bullying Selena, Jackie, and. Leave her alone.

Turdy (10:55)

Yeah.

Jackie (10:56)

How? Like, seriously. How dare you?

Turdy (10:58)

I can't believe we're still here.

Jackie (11:01)

No, actually, I don't know if you know. You actually don't know. But we went viral on Tick Tock for our take on Selena, and I was like, oh, like, Selena fans are.

Turdy (11:07)

Probably like, was the world ready for it?

Jackie (11:09)

They were like, nature is healing. We can finally speak the truth.

Turdy (11:14)

Oh, I love that.

Jackie (11:16)

Yeah, we actually went viral twice. 432 park people were really interested. They both got, like, half a million views.

Turdy (11:21)

Oh, my God. Classic us.

Jackie (11:23)

Yeah. We went viral twice in one day. It's literally not a big deal. We're used to this sort of attention and virality. Like, stop making it a big deal.

Turdy (11:29)

Yeah. You sent me a clip yesterday from our show five years ago. Where did you find that clip?

Jackie (11:36)

There is an amazing new, like, tick tock account that is committed to posting archival toast content. I'm obsessed with it. And yeah, they sent a hilarious clip about Jackie. And I, like, it's my story.

Turdy (11:49)

I keep meaning to post it to my story because it's just really funny. But also what's funny about it is, like, it's not something that we clipped back then. I don't think we were doing clips. It's just like, a random moment that would have otherwise been completely forgotten.

Jackie (12:01)

I know.

Turdy (12:01)

Anals of herstory.

Jackie (12:04)

I cannot encourage people enough to source and post archival toast content. It makes me so happy.

Turdy (12:12)

Yeah, it really does. I'm like, we're seriously so funny, and.

Jackie (12:15)

We always have been.

Turdy (12:17)

And it's like, my reaction to what you said in that clip. I don't want to spoil it. I don't even know if that would have been my reaction now. Like, what a funny reaction I had.

Jackie (12:26)

But that's also just the cool thing about, like, documenting your yourself 20s and.

Turdy (12:30)

You turned self lid over time.

Jackie (12:32)

It's a little bit scary, but you do get to see yourself evolve.

Turdy (12:35)

Yeah, it's a little bit scary. Let's not, like, act like it's without.

Jackie (12:39)

No, it's a little bit scary.

Turdy (12:43)

It definitely comes with a chair of frightful moments.

Jackie (12:46)

Yeah. Speaking of fright, Halloween's coming up.

Turdy (12:49)

Yeah.

Jackie (12:50)

Do you have plans to, like, get in costume for your personal life or.

Turdy (12:53)

No, of course I do, because that's what being a mama is now, like.

Jackie (12:56)

Yeah, but you might be, like, out of commission. We don't know.

Turdy (12:59)

Yeah, but even if I'm, like, right, like, most. Most likely I'll be able to put a costume on.

Jackie (13:07)

You can be a pumpkin.

Turdy (13:08)

Well, no, I could just be, like, wear a costume.

Jackie (13:11)

What is the family getting dressed as?

Turdy (13:14)

I don't want to spoil it, but for real, Toy Story.

Jackie (13:21)

Oh, cute. Who are you, freckly girl? Jesse.

Turdy (13:24)

Well, Kayla's Jesse. Oh, right.

Jackie (13:26)

It's not the kids. It's not about you.

Turdy (13:28)

Yeah.

Jackie (13:28)

So like I said, what are you, like, Andy's parents?

Turdy (13:30)

I. I think I'm gonna be Bo Peep. You don't know Bo Peep? Shepherd is little Bop, the sultry shepherdess.

Jackie (13:41)

You are literally a sultry shepherd. As I can see it. You don't even need to put on a costume. Yeah, but what does that make Zach?

Turdy (13:47)

Oh, Zach is gonna be. I think he's Rex. And Bruno is slinky. Oh, we already got his costume. And the kids are so excited.

Jackie (13:55)

That's cute. I have no plans, and, like, I really need to because it's so cute. I see, like, I've seen, like, a lot of, like, baby costumes where it's like, you put them in a pumpkin. Like, that's cute. You put them like a little chick hatching out of an egg. That's cute. I don't know. I just, like, I could do better than that.

Turdy (14:11)

Are you going to go trick or treating?

Jackie (14:13)

Well, like, I could.

Turdy (14:16)

For yourself?

Jackie (14:17)

Yeah. It's, like, kind of embarrassing. Like, Ruby's, like, can't even hold up his own neck right. So he's not eating candy.

Turdy (14:25)

No. But I think you could still go. Like, you have clearance if you want to.

Jackie (14:30)

It's. Yes.

Turdy (14:31)

Otherwise, you can man the door.

Jackie (14:33)

Well, it's just that time of year, I'd like to remind everybody who lives or works in a building with, like, a desk that you have to have a bowl of candy out. It's not right if you don't. And it should be illegal not to.

Turdy (14:43)

Yeah.

Jackie (14:45)

I love when, like, you just walk into different office buildings and, like, you go over your friend's house and, like, on their doorman desk, there's, like, just a little bit of.

Turdy (14:51)

And you just, like, have all these, like, chocolates in your pocket for the weeks. Hopefully they don't melt. Hopefully. It's not a Reese's cup that's not contained because if it melts, it leaves the expanse of the wrapper.

Jackie (15:02)

Oh, my. Sounds like she speaks from experience.

Turdy (15:06)

Same with a Hershey's Kiss.

Jackie (15:08)

Hershey's Kiss is really good. I actually feel like Hershey's Kisses are not utilized in the way everybody's home should have. A little bowl of Hershey's Kisses. Like a mint on your pillow.

Turdy (15:18)

Yeah. Unless you live with Bruno.

Jackie (15:21)

But also, don't be getting, like, quirky and weird with your selects. Like the standard chocolate. Don't do the one with the big almond in the middle. Or, like, a flavor just, like, sometimes.

Turdy (15:32)

Fun to switch it up.

Jackie (15:33)

No, it's not. I want the silver wrapper, and that's it. Do not get the purple wrapper. The purple rapper is dark chocolate. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. Oh, no, no. Oh, no.

Turdy (15:42)

Oh, no.

Jackie (15:43)

I got to sit down with a big bowl of candy soon. You know, I haven't done that in a while.

Turdy (15:46)

I know. Me neither.

Jackie (15:49)

I feel like we kind of have a lot to do. We're just, like, dilly dallying here, talking about Halloween candy because we've got Dear Dancing with the Stars. We've got fast five. Like there's no time like the present.

Turdy (16:00)

No, I mean thou doth protest too much. Without further ado, here are the fast five stories that you do need to know.

Jackie (16:08)

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Yes, I do.

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Turdy (20:37)

Thank you.

Jackie (20:38)

You're welcome.

Turdy (20:39)

Our first story. The five stories are like in order of no importance. Just sort of like just random, random interesting bits and bobs. Our first story is very turdy coated on a number of levels.

Jackie (20:49)

Okay.

Turdy (20:49)

Mariska Hargitay. Mariska Hargitay reveals that she auditioned for Friends. And here.

Jackie (20:55)

Oh, wow.

Turdy (20:56)

She would have played.

Jackie (20:57)

Let me think, let me think, let me think. Like a young Mariska. It's giving Rachel.

Turdy (21:03)

So Mariska was on good hang with Amy Poehler talking about their careers. The early days. Marshka actually wanted to be a comedian, so it's very surprising.

Jackie (21:11)

So Phoebe.

Turdy (21:12)

So she didn't know how she ended up as America's sweetheart sex cop. She said she.

Jackie (21:17)

Wait. Oh, right. Because she investigates sex crimes. I thought it was like, she's a sexy cop. I'm like, she's kind of not in the show. She's like a hard ass.

Turdy (21:24)

Funny to call yourself that. She was saying to Amy, like, I should have had your career as a comedian.

Jackie (21:30)

Right.

Turdy (21:31)

And she auditioned for the role of Monica. Oh.

Jackie (21:36)

So literally the last person I didn't guess. Well, that would not have been a good role for her.

Turdy (21:43)

That would not have been a good role for her. Why? I feel like it would have actually been great.

Jackie (21:47)

Well, Monica's not funny. She's, like, annoying as hell. And so when I think of a young Marishka, I didn't know she was doing comedy. Like, the funny person on the show, specifically the funny woman, was Phoebe. So that's why when you said funny, I thought Phoebe. But then, just in terms of looks, I would have thought maybe Rachel. I would not have thought Monica. But Friends is just one of those shows where, like, you hear, like, Ellen was supposed to be Phoebe, like, nobody else could have done what the six of them did. Do you know what I mean?

Turdy (22:11)

I actually feel like Ellen could have been Phoebe, and Marisha could have been Monica.

Jackie (22:15)

No, no. And you see, you've never even seen the show, so what the hell do you know?

Turdy (22:20)

But that's why I can. I can speak to it at a glance.

Jackie (22:25)

I just saw something funny, actually, about Friends. Hold on. They, like, wanted somebody. Hold on. David Schwimmer.

Turdy (22:38)

Yeah. Like, young. What? Courtney Cox, like, looks like Mariska. Like, Yeah.

Jackie (22:44)

I can't remember what I found. I can't see it, but maybe I'm too close to it.

Turdy (22:49)

I think you are too close to it. And it's funny because, like, I actually don't even know who's had more success. Like, they've both had so much success. I don't know who has more money. Like, it worked out for both of them.

Jackie (23:00)

Are you talking about Courtney Cox and Mariska? Yeah. I would say, like, in this moment right now, it worked out a little better for Mariska. But about 20 years ago, Mariska was just, like, cursing Courtney's name.

Turdy (23:15)

Yeah.

Jackie (23:16)

Because Courtney was, like, this young, hot thing, and everybody wanted corny, but now she's, like, in her retired era, ish. And Mariska still churned it out. Do you think Mariska will ever leave that show? Like, what is. Everyone has left. They've come back. They've gone. Um, but the one sort of stable figure is Mariska. She's never left. I bet she loves her job. Like, I bet she's so great.

Turdy (23:39)

So I guess whenever she's ready to retire, like, as you would at any job.

Jackie (23:43)

Right. It's kind of like Ellen Pompeo on Grey's Anatomy. Everyone has left, but she's sort of like, the last woman standing. And when she decides it's her time, I feel like it's also the time for the show.

Turdy (23:54)

Yeah. It will inevitably be. They won't know that, and they'll keep going.

Jackie (23:58)

Right, right, right.

Turdy (24:00)

We'll know that it's.

Jackie (24:01)

Yeah, it's actually insane that Law and Otter still puts out new episodes.

Turdy (24:05)

Yeah.

Jackie (24:06)

And people like, people a lot like watching. Keep up with the new ones.

Turdy (24:10)

Yeah.

Jackie (24:11)

Not to sound like a grandma. I prefer the old ones.

Turdy (24:14)

Yeah. But the new ones, they cover like relevant topics and.

Jackie (24:17)

Yeah, they like, they fictionalize popular. Not popular, like well known stories. Well known stories in the last couple of years, which is like cool and interesting.

Turdy (24:28)

Yeah. Super cool city.

Jackie (24:31)

Love to Mariska. And most importantly, Marisa Hargate's husband.

Turdy (24:35)

Our next story.

Jackie (24:36)

And you know what I need to add to my content plate? My mom, Jane. I've heard it's amazing. I've seen just like clips on social media. Mariska's documentary about her mom who was famous actress Jane Mansfield. Need to watch it.

Turdy (24:49)

You should put it on your list.

Jackie (24:51)

I don't have a list because, like, I just. When I want to watch something, I just watch it, you know?

Turdy (24:55)

No, but like, you're not going to remember and you say, what was that thing? Just write it down.

Jackie (25:00)

I know, but these days, like, Ben's like, kind of like attached to me and I can't like watch stuff alone. Do you know what I mean? So it has to be like couple friendly. That's why I'm watching Chad Powers.

Turdy (25:09)

He would like that documentary. He likes Mish.

Jackie (25:14)

He does like Marish, but I don't know if he cares about like Jane.

Turdy (25:18)

Well, if he wants to spend time with you, he's gonna have to conform to Turdy's interests. Also.

Jackie (25:24)

Speaking of Ben's interests, like, huge news. I can't believe we didn't talk about. But the NBC is. I mean, the NBA is back on NBC. Do you know about this?

Turdy (25:31)

No.

Jackie (25:32)

So I guess bed was explaining. I was like trying to like, care, but it was hard. Ben's whole life, like it. NBA games were always on NBC and they had this like, funny jingle. But then they lost the contract a couple of years ago and it's been on ABC for a while. But as of this NBA season, which started yesterday, NBA is back on NBC and they have Michael Jordan as mc. What's it called? Sportscaster. No, like, like the mcs.

Turdy (26:01)

Yeah, like host. Host, broadcaster.

Jackie (26:03)

Big deal for the boys. The Brunson boys.

Turdy (26:05)

But like, why?

Jackie (26:08)

I don't know.

Turdy (26:09)

Because NBC, abc, like, that's the same thing to me. It's not like he was having to watch it on MSG channel.

Jackie (26:14)

Yeah. I don't know why it matters, but I'm here to tell you that like it does to some people.

Turdy (26:19)

Oh, okay. I guess my Husband doesn't watch that much basketball.

Jackie (26:22)

No, he's more football. Ben's more basketball.

Turdy (26:24)

Yeah, my husband watches a lot of football. And Colin Cowherd.

Jackie (26:29)

Not Colin Cowherd.

Guest (26:32)

I don't know what that is.

Turdy (26:33)

He's like.

Jackie (26:34)

No, I know. He's like, yeah.

Turdy (26:39)

Is a little more throwback news because Khloe Kardashian is responding to Savannah Guthrie's career regret over 2012 interview that she did with Chloe. So Savannah Guthrie was talking about both stories today.

Jackie (26:53)

Like, I haven't heard and I'm so chronically online.

Turdy (26:55)

Yeah, no. And they're both like, pretty juicy. So Chloe's reacting to Savannah expressing regret over a dishy question that she asked the reality star in 2012.

Jackie (27:06)

Oh, Savannah's getting ahead of some resurfaced clip cancel. Savannah got three is over party.

Turdy (27:10)

No, she revealed that she regretted in 2012. She asked Chloe about the OJ fraternity thing on the Today show.

Jackie (27:19)

Oh, that's weird.

Turdy (27:20)

And so you news post, like, wrote up the story and posted it to Instagram.

Jackie (27:26)

The clip, like, started to make the rounds or Savannah just, like pulled it out of the archive.

Turdy (27:31)

I think Savannah just pulled it out of the archive. And then Chloe commented on the Instagram post saying, she's a doll. It takes a big person to take accountability. And I just love her with a bunch of hearts.

Jackie (27:41)

Chloe's a bigger woman than me.

Turdy (27:43)

Yeah. She opened up about interviewing chloe back in 2012 on Monday's episode of the Today show. She said, I asked KHLOE Kardashian, like 10 seconds before we were going to break about the rumors that. That her father, Robert Kardashian wasn't her father.

Jackie (27:58)

That's just like an insane thing to do before a break.

Turdy (28:00)

She admitted that she waited until the last minute to bring it up because she was felt so embarrassed. She praised Chloe for her class act response at the time. Chloe clarified that there was nothing to the headlines. In February, Savannah, I guess, talked about this and said that producers really wanted her to ask the question. So she did what any naive green anchor would do, and she did it.

Jackie (28:24)

And. And it's. That's just horrible. Like, that's an insane question.

Turdy (28:29)

Especially like on the Today show. That's insane.

Jackie (28:31)

Right? The T shirt doesn't lend itself to, like really thoughtful, long form content because it's three minute segments commercial break. So it's really just like fluff. And so to ask it on that show in general is just not the place to ask it three seconds before a commercial break. Like, what were they expecting?

Turdy (28:48)

Her to say, I don't know. That's.

Jackie (28:50)

Yes, he is. And I'll tell you more after the break.

Turdy (28:53)

Really crazy. It's just like crazy how it's such a different time. Like, it's almost 15 years ago. It was the 80s, you know, like.

Jackie (29:00)

People were, you know what? And so much has changed. And thank God, like, thank God the Today show is no longer the place for, like, breaking news or interest. Like, long form content not to make everything about us, but, like, podcasting really has replaced that. And it's funny how, like, if Chloe had something to say now, like, the Today show is probably the last place she would go.

Turdy (29:19)

Yeah, I think she was just, like, doing press for the new season. Actually, she would probably still do something like that now, like, just to, like, do a stop to promote a show. But, like, they wouldn't ask, like, such taboo questions. Like, they're just there to, like, be a part of the machine.

Jackie (29:37)

They're just there now to, like, create content between ad breaks. Yeah, that's really crazy. It's also just funny, like, what stays with people. Right? Like, Chloe might not have even thought about this as like a Roman Empire moment for her, but, like, clearly Savannah, like, from that day has never forgotten it. It's just like, funny what people remember, like, what, what shakes them.

Turdy (29:57)

Yeah. Yeah. So I'm glad that they were able to put this to bed.

Jackie (30:01)

Yeah.

Turdy (30:03)

Are you ready for our next story? Some more Cadet Kardashian related beef? This story is really crazy. Ben Simmons's sister.

Jackie (30:12)

Oh, my God.

Turdy (30:13)

Mocking Kendall Jenner in a new tick Tock. So NBA star Ben Simmons, who used to date Kendall Jenner, his sister Olivia recently took to tick tock to mock Kendall's skills in the kitchen.

Jackie (30:27)

So she went on tick tock to, like, tell this story. She told it in such a nasty way. And then by the end of the story, I was like, wait, that's the story. Like, I didn't understand. I thought there was going to be some big reveal. It was beyond anticlimactic. She just hears a story about if she was hanging out with her brother and his girlfriend, who at the time was.

Turdy (30:46)

And she said, Kendall Danner. She didn't even do what most people do, which is like my brother's ex girlfriend, where everyone can.

Jackie (30:52)

Who was like a model put together.

Turdy (30:54)

Who it is she literally straight up. So my brother used to date Kendall Jenner. And I will never forget the time we as a family were sitting around playing cards against humanity and she was like, I'm gonna bake some Cookies. She said her first thought was, first of all, you're Kendall Jenner. Don't you guys have a chef? We saw you cutting up cucumbers. You don't know how to cook.

Jackie (31:14)

So crazy. We keep going.

Turdy (31:17)

She said, Kendall whipped out, quote, ready made cookie dough, noting, you really. You really don't have to do much but, like, put it in the right place at the right time. Like, the only thing that you need to do is chop them up evenly. But apparently Kendall couldn't even do that. She said, I have never seen so many uneven cookies. What in tarnation?

Jackie (31:38)

Uneven?

Turdy (31:40)

She said, quote, you rich, if you don't call your chef to come and you don't call your chef to come and cook these cookies for you. Anyways, it was just hilarious because the Kardashians, the Jenners, they're just, like, weird.

Jackie (31:53)

And imagine if Kendall had said, oh, I want cookies. Let me ask the chef to make. She'd be like, my brother's girlfriend. Kendall Jenner couldn't even make her own cookies. She had to have the chef come and do it, even though his slice and bake cookies. She had an accent, too.

Turdy (32:05)

Yeah. Doesn't slice and bake give you an indentation of where to slice, though? Yeah.

Jackie (32:09)

And that's what she was saying. Like, Kendall couldn't even follow the slice.

Turdy (32:13)

Oh, I don't believe gives a.

Jackie (32:15)

First of all, I don't believe that. I immediately. Oh, wow. Jackie doesn't believe women. I don't believe women. I immediately felt, like, fiercely defensive of Kendall Jenner in this moment. Because first of all, I could tell from the second the video started, this girl had, like, a chip on her shoulder about something. She came off so nasty and so rude. And by the end, I was like, oh, she really hates Kendall. Because there was no there there. It wasn't a crazy story. I thought what she was gonna say was, like, so big. And it's like the whole thing was that she didn't cut the cookies.

Turdy (32:47)

Like, she made some mismatch cookies for the group game night.

Jackie (32:50)

And I just want to say, now that I think about it, when I think of, like, the slice and bake, it's like the. The nestle ones that come in a square and they have the indentations. You're just supposed, like, break it off. It really doesn't break off perfectly.

Turdy (33:01)

No, no. But also, there are kinds that come in a as a log where you literally just slice. So I think that's what she's saying that she fudged up. This is so crazy. Like, Ben, you need to call your sister.

Jackie (33:15)

Oh, big time. I know nothing about Ben Simmons. I didn't even know he had a sister. Now that I do, I absolutely hate this girl. She was so. Guys, the, the attitude, like, the tenor of her voice was so mean. Like, really just mean spirited.

Turdy (33:29)

Now maybe she had like a really.

Jackie (33:30)

Bad experience with Kendall as like a her brother's sister. But, like, I'm sorry.

Turdy (33:34)

So share the bad experience. Not right.

Jackie (33:36)

We don't know that. So she just comes off looking so mean for no reason. And I. I don't understand the purpose of the video. It was not a crazy or interesting story. She just comes off looking bad. Like, it was so mean. What the. Like, it was like nobody, nobody, nobody Ben Simmons sister. That Kendall, Jenna, like, she British. What? She had an accent. She did. You want me to play for you?

Turdy (34:06)

Yeah, sure.

Jackie (34:08)

I don't know, it kind of sounded like Australian.

Turdy (34:11)

Is he. Are they Australian?

Jackie (34:14)

I don't know. Hold on. I'm finding it.

Turdy (34:19)

She has an accent.

Guest (34:22)

I will never forget the time we were all like, as a family, we.

Jackie (34:25)

Were all sitting around, we were all, I don't know what accent that is.

Turdy (34:28)

They know. You're right. Sounds Australian humanity.

Jackie (34:31)

And she was like, I'm going to bake some cookies.

Guest (34:34)

First of all, you're Kendall Jenner. Why don't you guys have a chef? We saw you cutting up cucumbers. You don't know how to cook. So she's like, I'm going to bake some cookies. So she starts like, hang on, sorry. Ready made cookie dough. So you really don't have to do much but, like, put it in the right place at the right time. Like, the only thing that you need to do is chop them up evenly. No, stop. Because I have never seen so many uneven cookies. Like, what? What in tarnation? You rich. If you don't call your chef to come and cook these cookies for you. Anyways, it was just hilarious because they're just the Kardashians. The Jenna is like weird bitches. And I know. I was sitting next to her.

Turdy (35:19)

You don't know.

Jackie (35:21)

Congratulations. Like, I seriously, I wanted to, like, look at her comment section. Like, what was the. Did anybody else think that's, like, really random and mean?

Turdy (35:30)

Really mad.

Jackie (35:32)

I know.

Turdy (35:35)

Why should she call her chef to come make slice and bake cookies?

Jackie (35:39)

And if she did, that would imagine when she tagged Kendall Jenner.

Turdy (35:46)

What is going on?

Jackie (35:49)

Because, girl, we've seen that cucumber video. What the helly? Call the chef because the cookies were terrible. Laugh Laugh. Laugh at Kendall Jenner.

Turdy (35:56)

Like, she thinks she's so funny.

Jackie (35:58)

Comments. Yeah. Okay, so you're a mean girl. Did you flirt with her and she rejected you? Okay, that's mean. Oh, all the comments are saying she.

Turdy (36:08)

What are all the comments?

Jackie (36:09)

Oh, so. So she dated your brother, and the most you can say is she made you uneven cookies.

Turdy (36:13)

Right.

Jackie (36:13)

Bye.

Turdy (36:14)

And you're saying, like, maybe she had a bad experience with Kendall, which is why she doesn't like her. So, like, spill. Share the bad experience because you're sharing. You're spilling tea.

Jackie (36:21)

Okay, everyone's saying, this is so mean for no reason. Like, oh, I'm not defending her, but hypothetically, if she called the chef, you'd have a story time about her, Right? Not her living in your head five years later, rent free.

Turdy (36:36)

I'm sorry. Ben Simmons needs to call his sister and take her phone away big time. Cancel the phone plan for the sister.

Jackie (36:42)

The comments are making me laugh, and the crowd is confused. I was ready for the tea, and you served poison. This is seriously funny. I can't believe you're making me defend Kendall Jenner. All of this over some cookies.

Turdy (37:04)

Like, I can. Okay. I'm glad that we're aligned.

Jackie (37:09)

The comments are just cracking me up. Yeah. Okay. So mean. I had, like, such a visceral reaction to that. I'm like, oh, okay, now I'm. I have to make a Kendall Jenner Stan account. Like, yeah. You know when somebody makes you feel, like, fiercely defensive of somebody, like, you don't even care about? Like, that's how you know that they're wrong.

Turdy (37:23)

Yeah. And it's like, you should be able to play cards against humanity with your boyfriend's family and, like, not in peace. Yeah.

Jackie (37:29)

And if Ben Simmons, like, wants to keep dating women, like, who are famous and, you know, beautiful models, like, his sister needs to shut the up.

Turdy (37:39)

Yeah.

Jackie (37:40)

Because Ben Simmons, like, is a man about town. He gets, like, you know, he gets around. He gets beautiful women, like, famous women. And if I'm a beautiful, famous woman and they say, oh, Ben Simmons wants to go on a date with you, I'm like, oh, the guy whose sister made that nasty video of about Kendall Jenner? I'm good.

Turdy (37:52)

No, thanks.

Jackie (37:53)

Yeah, she's a blocking him.

Turdy (37:55)

Yeah. No, he's got to call her up.

Jackie (37:58)

Yeah.

Turdy (37:59)

Are you ready for our next story? Our fourth story? Elizabeth Olsen says that she won't act in studio movies if there's no theatrical release anymore. She said, I don't want to make movies where streaming is the end.

Jackie (38:12)

All.

Turdy (38:15)

Elizabeth Olsen took InStyle magazine.

Jackie (38:19)

Like, okay, okay. Like, do it.

Turdy (38:21)

Is that, like, so bad that streaming is the end all? You know, I guess as an artist.

Jackie (38:27)

I think as an artist, it does feel like when you do a movie that's just, like, straight to stream release, like, we talk about this all the time, how things get popular on streamers. They have five minutes of relevance, and then they move on. When you work hard on a movie and a theatrical release makes it, like a big deal, Right? There's a lot of press, and then there's a premiere, and streaming, things just get, like, shelved kind of instantly. So I know what she's saying. It's probably better for her career to do, like, bigger things, but, you know, less money.

Turdy (38:56)

Yeah, but this is also what she said, because I don't even know if it's, like, about, you know, everyone seeing it. It's. It has. About supporting theaters and also about human connection. Of course, Elizabeth.

Jackie (39:07)

It's not about the human connection. I don't know what she's doing.

Turdy (39:10)

She told In Style as part of a new cover story that she's no longer signing on to Hollywood studio movies that don't have a guaranteed theatrical release. As an indie film darling since the start of her career, she's comfortable acting in a movie without distribution that gets sold to a streamer. But her preference is always a theatrical release. She said, if a movie is made independently and only sells to a streamer, then fine. But I don't want to make something where streaming is the end all. I think it's important for people to gather as a community to see other humans be together in a space. That's why I like sports. I think it's really powerful for people to come together for something that they're excited about. We don't even audition in person anymore.

Jackie (39:47)

Elizabeth Olsen, jock. Yeah, okay, I understand what she's saying. That, like, there is a lack of human connection in the world. Like, we're all just home scrolling on our phones. Having said that, like, if she really cared, like, she should be, like, a leader in her community or at the Girl Scouts. Like, you're a actress. Like, what this has to do with community, I'm not sure.

Turdy (40:10)

Yeah, I just. I feel like what she's saying is a real issue. Like, just even, like, binge watching culture in general. Like, people come home on the weekend, they say, sit in front of the TV and they watch something all weekend. They don't talk to another human. Like, that's just, like, not.

Jackie (40:22)

They don't go outside.

Turdy (40:23)

I Feel with this. She's bitten off a little more than she could chew because I don't know how we.

Jackie (40:28)

How she could fix it, how she.

Turdy (40:30)

But she's trying. Like, she's doing her part, which is that, like, I'm going to act in things that will get people to the movies, to how it used to be.

Jackie (40:40)

And that's beautiful. I don't care. And I want to sit at home and binge watch something on a streamer.

Turdy (40:48)

You do?

Jackie (40:50)

I do.

Turdy (40:54)

I think I'm with Elizabeth.

Jackie (40:56)

No. By the way, I get what she's saying. Like, yes, there is an issue in culture that, like, we all just stream and watch and. And nobody goes outside anymore. Nobody goes, you know, sports. I get what she's saying. Sports.

Turdy (41:11)

We could learn something from sports.

Jackie (41:14)

I guess we could. Because.

Turdy (41:15)

Keep up with sports. Sports.

Jackie (41:17)

No, we actually can't because Lamar Odom never released his podcast with Caitlyn Jenner. It's.

Turdy (41:23)

It could still be coming.

Jackie (41:26)

Okay.

Turdy (41:27)

We have to get. We have to find out what's going on.

Jackie (41:31)

I've kind of lost my luster for it. I can't lie. Like, I wake up every day and do a podcast daily. Lamar Odom and Caitlyn Jenner couldn't do it weekly.

Turdy (41:40)

Let me check the IG page. Even.

Jackie (41:43)

Haven't come back. We would know.

Turdy (41:44)

Even though I know if they posted anything, everyone would send it to me.

Jackie (41:48)

Of course.

Turdy (41:49)

Keeping up with.

Jackie (41:50)

They need to delete the Instagram page. Sports.

Turdy (41:54)

Here we go. Still nothing.

Jackie (41:57)

I hope you're ready.

Turdy (41:58)

Hold on. For nothing. There was a third host.

Jackie (42:02)

Yes.

Turdy (42:03)

Oh, and he's like a real podcaster.

Jackie (42:06)

Yes. Jackie, we've gone down this road before.

Turdy (42:08)

No, I've never seen the third host. He's like, all his stuff is like, with Jake.

Jackie (42:11)

Paul. Yeah. He was like the. The glue. Okay. The glue.

Turdy (42:20)

Oh, wait, there is a clip. Yes.

Jackie (42:23)

They had a trailer and they had recorded a first episode and they never even released it.

Turdy (42:29)

We've been denied. We're being, like, seriously deprived.

Jackie (42:33)

Honestly. Elizabeth Olsen should be talking about this.

Turdy (42:35)

Yeah. Yeah. Anyways, I'm all gather. I'm gonna commend Elizabeth Olsen because I think this is noble.

Jackie (42:45)

I. I completely agree. I just feel like Elizabeth Olsen doesn't have real problems. Like, this is what she's talking about. You know, it's just like, it's hard to care, you know?

Turdy (42:53)

Yeah, but she's trying to help you.

Jackie (42:55)

But I agree. No, And Elizabeth, I implore you to keep trying. We should all try.

Turdy (43:01)

Yeah.

Jackie (43:01)

To connect more.

Turdy (43:02)

We.

Jackie (43:07)

But after you Listen to this episode of the Toast.

Turdy (43:09)

Yeah. In a silo in your room with your ears breathing on loop. Are you ready for a fifth and final story?

Jackie (43:16)

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Turdy (45:19)

Yeah. I was gonna say aside from that decision, like, you are like, the textbook example of what we're talking about here, where it's like questioning everything. But, like, you now you see, because, like, soon he's gonna start, like, having some solids, having some textures and, like, you're getting into, like, what that means and like, the amount of questions that you ask start off with is so crazy. So when there are companies that like, that you can trust, it takes huge hours, days worth of work off your life.

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Turdy (46:56)

Thank you, Turdy. You're welcome, Turd and hood. Our fifth and final story is little Dancing with the Stars recap. Two couples earned the season's first tens and one couple is out on Wicked night. So last night, John M. Chu guest judged the theme.

Jackie (47:12)

He must be like, a really big fan of this show. I was not expecting his critique to be like, as he just sounded like an experienced viewer.

Turdy (47:19)

Well, he's an experienced showman.

Jackie (47:21)

That's true. But he did say that this is his favorite show and I actually believed him.

Turdy (47:24)

Yeah, the theme was Wicked. Everyone got their songs. We went over what everyone was going to be dancing to. Let's get into the dances, shall we?

Jackie (47:35)

Yeah. It was a great night. I was just like, loving The. The showmanship, the theatrics, the music, the dances. The opening number was really fun. It was a great theme.

Turdy (47:45)

The opening number was fun. They did, like, a medley. And so some of those songs, like, I. I really like certain moments. I really enjoy Derek dancing through life.

Jackie (47:54)

Me too. He's so Fiera. You know, he was, like, jealous of Robert Irwin.

Turdy (47:58)

He's so Fiero. And I'm glad that he got to have his moment. And I'm also glad for us that we got to see, like, one of the world's best dancers, like, dancing to the best musical dance song.

Jackie (48:07)

Yeah. I think in this new era, like, this new generation of Dancing with the Stars, because the show has been on for 20 years, the fact that there's a judge who can and does get involved in the number. Same with, like, Carlton and Julianne, how they ended that number, like, it's actually great because it's one thing to be a judge to, like, talk the talk, but Derek also walks. It's hard to take, you know, criticism from, like, people who aren't doing it. And I know they've done it and they're experts in their field, but I think Derek, the Huffs in general get, like, a lot of criticism. And I hear you. They're unique. But having a judge who actually gets up and dances while also criticizing the dancers and the pros, too, I really.

Turdy (48:44)

Appreciate walks the walk and talks to talk. And. Yeah, for that reason, Julianne and Alfonso are, like, actually great hosts because he has the experience on the star side.

Jackie (48:52)

Yep.

Turdy (48:52)

And she has the experience on the pro side. So it's not like someone just there telling you you could have done better when it's like, well, what can you do?

Jackie (48:59)

And I don't know anything, like, about ballroom dancing or the scene, but. And I trust that, like, Bruno and Carrie Ann, like, are important figures. And when the show started.

Turdy (49:06)

No, it's an important figure.

Jackie (49:08)

They were big gets for the show. But, like, I do feel like some of their times might be coming. And, like, they're clearly experimenting with Kim Herjavec. And I think having people who have been on the show on both sides is important.

Turdy (49:21)

Yeah. Well, our first number was Scott Hoying dancing to the wizard. And I. He went home.

Jackie (49:28)

It was really bad. I'm really hard on Scott, even though I do feel like he's had moments and people. It was obviously between him and Andy, right?

Turdy (49:36)

Yeah.

Jackie (49:36)

Not them. Like, putting Dylan Efron in the bottom. Like, it clearly wasn't him. It was between him and Andy. And people Are like, well, yes, objectively, if you look at both of them, Scott was better. If you're comparing them to one another. And there's a lot of people who are angry that, like, Andy is still around and, you know, Scott went home before Andy. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter because neither of them are going to win. So whoever goes home first doesn't really make a difference. But I could see why people are like, well, Scott can put one foot in front of the other and, like, Andy really can't. Why is Andy still there? And it's really important to remember that Andy brings stuff to the table outside of the classic. He's a performer, right. He always makes me giggle during his dances. He has that PJ charisma that. I'm sorry, it is valuable. That's why I voted for him. Did I think he had the best dance of the night?

Turdy (50:23)

No, no. But, like, I enjoy myself watching him dance. Like, I'd rather watch him, like, bumble around the dance floor and, like, make me laugh than Scott's performance, which was so boring. Like, I don't really remember. Like, I don't want to watch boring.

Jackie (50:37)

And Andy is vastly improving, which is the point of this show. I actually think Scott is getting worse. And when I actually thought he was going to do night because he said, like, Wicked is his whole personality. He loves Wicked so much. And he completely forgot portions of the choreography. He was stumbling all over the place. He actually. I'm sorry. Like, he was worse than Andy. It was his time to go.

Turdy (50:55)

Yeah, you can't compare anyone to Andy. And his time will run out when it's time to get serious. But it's not time to get serious. There are so many people there who are, like, not amazing and are not going to win. So, like, why can't Andy say? I mean, I look forward to his dances, too. It's not just about, like, who's going the hardest and who's doing the best moves like that. He brings something else to the table. I'm so sick of people being like, stop. Pity saving. And it's not about pity.

Jackie (51:19)

I'm. No, I'm enjoying enjoying. Although I do think his time has now run out after Scott. Like, I don't know if there's anyone else. I would have said Danielle Fishel, but you stepped her all the way up last night, so who.

Turdy (51:32)

No, no, they say that she stepped her up, but, like, I didn't, like, see that when I watched.

Jackie (51:38)

Oh, wow.

Turdy (51:38)

When I watched.

Jackie (51:39)

Okay, so we'll get to that. But, Scott, like, I also think for the first time, like, Riley's choreography, like, wasn't amazing for him. And so with the combination of, like, him really messing up and the choreography not, like, dazzling me, it was his time, and he got such a good song.

Turdy (51:54)

He didn't have, like, the. Like, he didn't have the love of the fans. Like, nothing he was doing was, like, motivating people to, like, get out there and vote for him. So when you don't have the scores, like, you're gone.

Jackie (52:03)

Also, what I noticed was, like, I was just really enjoying the people who were dancing to songs that I knew. And he had arguably second best song, and it wasn't good enough to, like. I was blinded by just the good music.

Turdy (52:14)

What did you think was the best song for the challenge last night?

Jackie (52:17)

Divine Gravity. I actually think, even though Alex and.

Turdy (52:19)

Val, I think it was Dancing Through Life was the best song for that. Dancing with the Stars.

Jackie (52:26)

But all that to say, like, the more popular songs, like, you just started with a leg up. And he had arguably one of the most popular. He had the wizard and I, and even that couldn't save him. So it was really his time.

Turdy (52:35)

Yeah.

Jackie (52:36)

Like, Andy Loki. Unless you know wicked really well, you don't know that song. One Short Day in the Emeralds, and.

Turdy (52:43)

He made it into, like, one of the best songs. Like, where I was. Like, it was a fun one to have.

Jackie (52:48)

And let me tell you, it's really highlighting how good of a pro Emma is. Like, she's crushing it.

Turdy (52:52)

Crushing.

Jackie (52:53)

So, Scott, I'm sorry. It was your time.

Turdy (52:55)

It was. And that felt right to me. Like, that's how I would have. If I could have raked it, like, that's what I would have done.

Jackie (53:03)

Yeah.

Turdy (53:04)

Next we have Alex. Earl, what is this feeling?

Jackie (53:07)

Okay. Great song. Great for choreography, too.

Turdy (53:11)

The whole theme was great because all of these songs have built in choreography.

Jackie (53:14)

Yeah.

Turdy (53:15)

You know, except for that, of course, they gave to the postpartum woman.

Jackie (53:20)

Now, Alex did so good, but. And I'm glad somebody said it, her choreography was not challenging. And I feel like you. You said last week. And it's so true. Like, Alex has done really good, but she needs a breakout moment, and this really could have been it. She crushed it. No, no notes, but it wasn't hard.

Turdy (53:39)

Yeah, a lot of them got a little distracted by the set and the, you know, doing a little bit of the dancing. There wasn't a lot of, like, skilled dancing. They were a lot of them, like, just walking around with books and, like, you know, Being like, theater, which was enjoyable to watch, but, like, I didn't feel like only Alex suffered from that.

Jackie (53:56)

I felt like Elaine Hendrix. The second half of her dance, she didn't even dance, and it was amazing. And I have. So she was my best of the night. But it's worth mentioning half her dance was just Alan, like, struggling with his mind, and then her up in that thing. Sorry that. It was amazing, but she only did half a dance.

Turdy (54:13)

Yeah. A lot of them even, like, Whitney and Robert a little bit, like, got caught up in, like, you know, putting up on the set and everything and not doing so much, like, dancing. But it was fun to watch. And not every night needs to be like, the Nutcracker.

Jackie (54:28)

Val needs to, like, put something together for Alex, like, something big. She's kind of just getting lost in the middle a little bit.

Turdy (54:33)

Getting lost. I, like, forget that she's on the show, except for when she's on. It's like she's not, like, a part of it. I can't explain it.

Jackie (54:39)

Yeah. She's not blowing me away, but she's crushing.

Turdy (54:42)

Yeah. No, but it's like, when I think of the show and who's, like, gonna win, I forget that she's there, and I'm. Literally, bigger moments for her, watching for her. She's the reason I watch.

Jackie (54:53)

I. I really. I do blame him. I don't blame her. I think she does exactly what she's told, and she commits herself, like, really hard to whatever he tells her to do, and he needs to, like, do something challenging. And I'm glad somebody. I forgot who it was. I think it was Carrie Ann who just said, like, it wasn't that difficult of a dance.

Turdy (55:07)

Yeah. Yeah.

Jackie (55:09)

It was super cute, though.

Turdy (55:10)

It was cute. She's always cute.

Jackie (55:12)

Yeah.

Turdy (55:13)

Next, Robert Irwin and Whitney dancing through life. This was his best score yet.

Jackie (55:18)

It was so good. Yeah, you're right.

Turdy (55:21)

That.

Jackie (55:21)

That is the best song. It's kind of a sleeper a little bit. It's the best song. And I loved when Derek did it, too. It's just a song that makes you want to dance. Yeah.

Turdy (55:28)

And it's a show about dancing. So, like, this is the best song for this competition.

Jackie (55:32)

Yeah. They're a real force. I do feel like, though, their first dance was so amazing, I feel like they've kind of been like, chasing that ever since. It was, like, almost too good to start out.

Turdy (55:45)

Yeah. But they are hitting it. Like, last week was really good. This week was really good. She's just so.

Jackie (55:50)

I.

Turdy (55:51)

My belief is that it's her, like, so that's why. I don't know, like, I don't, like, vote for him.

Jackie (55:57)

Me neither. But I love her.

Turdy (55:59)

I love her, and I. I feel like she's really the driving force. It would be interesting to see how he did with, like, a. A different partner.

Jackie (56:08)

Yeah.

Turdy (56:09)

But they're adorable, and I think they're perfectly matched because, like, I think they really love each other and have, like, big sister, little brother energy. Yeah.

Jackie (56:16)

Yeah.

Turdy (56:17)

Next, Whitney Levitt getting the first 10 of the season with Popular with Mark. These two are so crazy.

Jackie (56:23)

They are. They're just, like, competing against themselves. They don't even, like, look around. She wants to win and she knows she can, and she's taking it really seriously. They both are. And I appreciate that. But, like, I just want her to, like, loosen up a little bit. Like, she seems really tense.

Turdy (56:41)

Oh, you think? She's just, like, so wild. Like, she just has, like, so much energy. It's just like. But she's always.

Jackie (56:49)

Their dance was amazing there.

Turdy (56:50)

Oh, their dance was. There's nothing to say. The dance also was, like, I loved the song. They got a good song. They did it well. They made it hard, like, and then she crushed it. And last week, she really did, like, get ahead of the music. It was kind of a mess. And, like, the couple.

Jackie (57:06)

And, like, seriously, I don't think she's ever going to be okay from that. Like, she's so hard. No.

Turdy (57:09)

And it's like, as much as Whitney could have a bad week, like that, I guess, was it because she's not a bad dancer. She's not going to have a bad week. But that was less than. This was really amazing and a joy to watch, and she deserves to win. I think, like, people don't want her to win.

Jackie (57:23)

They're mad because she has, you know, ballroom background, dance training.

Turdy (57:29)

Everyone, like, so many people do every single season. We're over that. We've moved on.

Jackie (57:33)

Yeah. They need to either decide that they're not going to cast people like that or everybody needs to shut up.

Turdy (57:36)

No, like, and you and I, like, used to. To get really, our panties in a twist about it, but you just. You have to move on from it. Like. Yeah, because I want people like Whitney to be able to be on the show. Even Hilaria, even Elaine, who had all that training, but, like, has been like, her career was cut short in dance. Like, I think it's still okay because you also. You need to crush every week. You need to be creative. You need to be beloved. Like, it's not just about technicality.

Jackie (57:58)

No, it's a 360 thing. You need to do the social media. Like, you really have to do all of it. Yeah.

Turdy (58:03)

Next, Dylan and Daniela. I'm not that girl.

Jackie (58:07)

What a weird song. Like, for him. And that's what I was. Funny when they were like, after the break, Dylan and Daniela will be dancing to I'm not that girl. And you know how they, like, wave to the camera. Daniella was, like, pointing to him. He's not that girl. Like, it was just a weird song.

Turdy (58:20)

It was weird, but they pulled it off. You're telling me she's married to Pasha?

Jackie (58:25)

They're. No, no, she's not married to Pasha. Is she married to Pasha? Did I say that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, she's married to Pasha. They be like, I'm sorry. They're.

Turdy (58:37)

I've never even seen Danielle and Pasha together. I couldn't even imagine it. I know people love these two. I know I have an issue with them.

Jackie (58:47)

They're really good, but I don't.

Turdy (58:48)

Yeah, they have moving me, but they just, like, don't do it. For me personally, I do think he'll, like.

Jackie (58:54)

It's hard to. What was I gonna say? I don't know. It's not.

Turdy (59:05)

They're gonna make it.

Jackie (59:06)

I think his biggest competitor is Robert Irwin. They both kind of, like, have the same vibe. Leading man. I don't know. I just don't, like, love him, but I. I don't get it.

Turdy (59:19)

It's okay. We don't have to, like, get everyone and love everyone. Right. Again, no beef. I enjoy them. They seem like they're having a good time. Yeah, they make people happy. They make each other happy. I just like. It doesn't.

Jackie (59:32)

While they're fudgeing.

Turdy (59:32)

It just doesn't do it for me. If that's okay with the classic. Next we have Andy Richter and Emma Slater. One short day.

Jackie (59:40)

It was adorable. They used all elements, obviously, like, his dance technicality is not the best. So they use the extras and the costume and the song and they just. It was a show. I enjoyed it so much. Jackie makes such a good point. It's like, well, yes, we could, you know, criticize everybody for their footwork or whatever. It's also about enjoyment and entertainment, and that's really what Andy provides. Like, I was giggling to myself. He's so cute. He's having so much fun. Just let him have fun. It's not pity. It's just like, somebody who was so clearly, like, going to be one of the first ones out Is taking this so seriously and is challenging himself and getting better. And it's just a joy to watch. It is.

Turdy (60:14)

It is. And, like, one day there will be, like, just the best people left and I'll be. Andy's will start to be a drag. Like, okay. Like this again. And that's when it's his time to go. But I don't feel that at all right now. And it's not his time to go. I could go for another week if someone. If like, one of the, like, bottom couples. Like, so I would say Danielle and.

Jackie (60:33)

Or Jen.

Turdy (60:35)

I hate to say it. Jen. If they, like, flop next week, like, Andy could have another chance.

Jackie (60:39)

It's true.

Turdy (60:40)

He only.

Jackie (60:41)

Max has one week left.

Turdy (60:43)

Yeah. But you would have thought that about this week.

Jackie (60:45)

Like, but it goes to show that I think they really consider the fan votes.

Turdy (60:50)

Like, it means I actually believe that this show is not rigged.

Jackie (60:56)

Me too.

Turdy (60:56)

Maybe the winner ultimately is rigged just, like, based on, like, an ABC's. Yeah. Priorities. But I feel like with the fan votes, I feel like they just kind of let it fall the way it is.

Jackie (61:09)

I think so, too. I think it, like, it calculates a lot.

Turdy (61:12)

Yeah. Someone else who could go home before Andy if she up. Elaine. But she did not up last night.

Jackie (61:22)

No. I had chills before. I like the defying gravity thing. Everybody was, like, gagged over. I actually thought I was. I was kind of. She was insane. And I love what she gets up to. Julianne. And Julianne asks her questions and she's clearly. It happens every time. She's just so excited that, like, she accomplished this thing and she gives, like, a little inspiration. I am proof that your dreams are never too late. Like, she always says something, like, so sweet. Like, she's like, I can't believe I just did that. I love her. She's really good. The fact that she's 54, like, I'll never get over. And I was almost annoyed that she did that stunt because I thought maybe the judges would say that, like, took away because, yeah, half the dance she was not dancing. She was getting strapped into that thing and then was just, like, holding the broom. And then Alan was doing, like, his little moment. Because before that, she was unbelievable. It was amazing.

Turdy (62:11)

Yeah. No, I don't think the judges were gonna be, like, that was too much. I think that they were, like, in partnership with Wicked. Like, they needed these moments. And they were not going to be, like, you spent too much time doing that. It's like, wait, we did it for your sponsorship promo.

Jackie (62:23)

Yeah.

Turdy (62:24)

So. Yeah. She was really, really good. But I do feel like she gets good scores, and if she got a bad score, I don't know if she has as much fan support as, like, you and I feel towards her.

Jackie (62:34)

Mm, no, that's fair.

Turdy (62:37)

Next, Jen and yon. She got her best score yet, dancing to as long as you're mine.

Jackie (62:43)

But why were they still being there so unnecessarily hard on her? Outside of her being postpartum, they're not taking into effect into account any of that. I feel like every time she gets criticism, they're so unnecessarily hard on her. Oh, by the way, you could tell Alex Earl hates Carrie Ann because Carrie Ann was, like, giving her, like, a.

Turdy (63:01)

A little.

Jackie (63:02)

A little criticism with, like, a jab, and Alex was just like, like, not even listening to her. She hates her. And I. I feel that I, I. I need them to. The way that they give, like, Andy a little bit of grace special. Yeah. Where there's none of that for Jen, in addition to them just being really hard on her, I thought last night's dance, like, I didn't see anything wrong with it. She had a bad song.

Turdy (63:22)

She got a bad song. She did a good job. I didn't see any. That's how I feel every single weekend. Then her.

Jackie (63:27)

The choreography was very good.

Turdy (63:28)

Her score is, like, 32 out of 40. Whereas, like, someone else could have been, like, 35 or 36. Like, it's not. It's not gonna be number one. Okay. So just, like, let her be. Whatever.

Jackie (63:37)

I have no idea, like, why she's being judged.

Turdy (63:40)

Like, she's the only one who's actually being judged, like, based on, like, so harshly. Yeah.

Jackie (63:46)

Because to me, I thought her dance was, like, on par with Alex Earls.

Turdy (63:49)

Yeah.

Jackie (63:51)

She did it well, Danielle. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. It's pissing me off.

Turdy (63:56)

It's pissing me off too, and I.

Jackie (63:58)

Really, like, I just want to give her a hug.

Turdy (64:00)

Waiting for it to change. Yeah. So Danielle had her breakthrough moment. They say she danced to no good deed and embraced her dark and moody side with a six. 36 out of 40. Yeah, it's.

Jackie (64:11)

I actually appreciated the criticism last week of, like, she kind of feels like she does the same thing every week. I don't even remember her dances, like, individually. Like, it's just like, to Vega and so them doing, like, a total opposite dark. I appreciate it. You know what? They were right. It did make her stand out. She did a very good job.

Turdy (64:27)

I guess they're right that it was Like, I don't know. I was just watching it, and I'm like, oh, I didn't think it was amazing.

Jackie (64:32)

And I loved her at a top, like a slick back bun.

Turdy (64:35)

Yeah, me too. But I just, like, how did she get a 36 and Jen got a 32?

Jackie (64:40)

I don't know.

Turdy (64:41)

Like, that, to me, is just not. They. They were the same to me. Agreed. Just, like, strong. Didn't blow me away, but, like, did what they were supposed to do.

Jackie (64:48)

Agreed.

Turdy (64:50)

Next, Jordan Childs nabbing her first 10. You guys, Jordan Childs is not messing around.

Jackie (64:55)

What song did she do?

Turdy (64:57)

She did for good. It was actually really good.

Jackie (65:00)

Yes. That's a great song.

Turdy (65:02)

And he did a good job choreographing it. And the set.

Jackie (65:04)

Agreed.

Turdy (65:05)

Everything and the way you, like, close out the night, I feel like she's.

Jackie (65:08)

Kind of like a dream star to get if you're a pro. Right. She's not necessarily a dancer, but all the things that are involved, like, the lifts. And I think a lot of people struggle, especially in the beginning, with, like, the physicality of having to work out so hard. They're so sore. The first couple of weeks with Jordan, like, this is nothing, you know?

Turdy (65:27)

Yeah. No, but, like, she's just become a beautiful dancer, and she's. She got tens, just like Whitney did. Like, she's really. They're one and two at this point.

Jackie (65:38)

Yeah. So Jordan and Whitney, Robert. Yeah. Do you think they'll put two guys in and Dylan?

Turdy (65:46)

Why not?

Jackie (65:47)

I don't know. Because they're literally the same.

Turdy (65:50)

Yeah. I feel like two guys and two girls, like, that would be ideal for them.

Jackie (65:54)

That means no Alex in the top four. And right now, I just don't feel like Val is choreographing her for the top four.

Turdy (65:59)

Alex versus Dylan. That's the fourth spot.

Jackie (66:02)

Right? We're not forgetting anyone, are we?

Turdy (66:06)

Like Elaine.

Jackie (66:07)

But no.

Turdy (66:08)

Yeah.

Jackie (66:10)

Because as it gets closer, like your real fans, it starts to matter. And I don't think Elaine has, like, a huge following.

Turdy (66:16)

Yeah. And it's like, all of them are operating at tens. Like, true tension.

Jackie (66:19)

Yeah.

Turdy (66:20)

Real 10.

Jackie (66:20)

And Elaine being. I mean, Chessie being there every week is, like, so sweet.

Turdy (66:25)

Yeah. No, I'm obsessed with them.

Jackie (66:26)

I'm obsessed. It's. It's. It was a great casting, and I.

Turdy (66:29)

Do like how it's gonna be, like, final four, and then I. You know, and then just the winner. Because I want to see, like, my, like, Elaine and Andy, like, make it to the finale, like, be there for most of the show. But then we'll have one or two episodes where it's serious business.

Jackie (66:45)

Yeah, I agree. So that's your Dancing with the stars recap. That's your show. Thank you so much for listening to the toast and Monday morning show where we deal with fast size stories that you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So watching us on YouTube please feel free to subscribe. Give this video a thumbs up. We're also available as podcasts Associate faster viewing up people sending in wickedly talented we are.

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