Mr. and Mr. Maldonado: Tuesday, April 22nd, 2025

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Toast – Episode "Mr. and Mr. Maldonado" (April 22, 2025)

In this engaging episode of The Toast, hosts Claudia Oshry and Jackie Oshry delve into a variety of pop culture news stories, share their perspectives on societal trends, and offer heartfelt advice to their listeners. Skipping the initial banter and advertisements, the episode primarily focuses on five key news stories followed by their popular advice segment, "Dear Toasters."

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1. Demi Moore Crowned People’s Most Beautiful Woman

Claudia and Jackie kick off their Fast 5 Stories segment with the announcement that Demi Moore has been named People’s “World’s Most Beautiful Woman.” At [19:06], Claudia expresses her admiration, stating, “I can't really get into my annual speech... but I'll just say this good selection. I'm happy for Demi. I think she's very beautiful.”

Jackie adds, “[19:18]... I appreciate that they always go with an older woman... their commitment to appreciating, respecting older women and not just like always, young girls.” The hosts commend People Magazine for selecting a figure who embodies grace and timeless beauty, highlighting the significance of recognizing beauty beyond youth.

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2. Khloe Kardashian Launches Cloud Protein Popcorn

The second story revolves around Khloe Kardashian’s latest entrepreneurial venture—Cloud Protein Popcorn. At [26:45], Jackie announces, “Khloe Kardashian is launching cloud protein popcorn that snackers don't have to feel guilty about.” The hosts discuss the product’s unique selling points, such as being seed oil-free and containing over three times the amount of protein compared to traditional popcorn.

Claudia shares her mixed feelings, “[30:19]... I feel like it has potential, but I'm not 100% sure.” They debate the practicality and market readiness of protein-enriched snacks, with Jackie predicting, “[30:44]... this could be big business.” The conversation highlights the growing trend of health-conscious snacking and celebrity-led health products.

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3. Academy Introduces New Oscars Voting Rules

At [34:14], Claudia and Jackie dissect the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences' new rule requiring members to watch all nominated films in a category before voting. Claudia humorously remarks, “[35:37]... the Academy sets a new Oscars rule,” expressing skepticism about its enforcement and impact on past awards.

Jackie muses, “[35:05]... it calls into question every Oscar ever given out,” suggesting that previous nominations may not have been based on genuine viewership. The hosts debate the potential benefits and challenges of this rule, emphasizing the importance of informed voting in maintaining the Oscars’ credibility.

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4. Kevin Costner Spotted with Mystery Woman Amid J.Lo Dating Rumors

The fourth story involves Kevin Costner being seen with a mystery woman in Los Angeles, sparking rumors about his relationship status with Jennifer Lopez. At [37:20], Jackie states, “Kevin Costner was spotted stepping out for lunch with a mystery woman... months after he sparked dating rumors with Jennifer Lopez.”

Claudia adds, “[39:13]... they're at the same table, you don't know that to be true,” downplaying the speculation. The hosts explore the likelihood of a developing relationship, considering their public personas and past interactions. They maintain a lighthearted tone, recognizing the often speculative nature of celebrity relationships.

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5. Joe Exotic Marries in Prison

The final news story covers Joe Exotic, famously known from Tiger King, marrying fellow inmate Jorge Flores within the prison system. At [45:08], Jackie explains, “Tiger King star Joe Exotic gets married in prison,” leading to a detailed discussion about the feasibility and authenticity of such relationships behind bars.

Claudia expresses concerns, “[47:09]... how are we supposed to know which Maldonado they're referring to?” questioning the legitimacy and implications of the marriage, especially concerning immigration status and potential presidential pardons. The hosts ponder the broader issues within the prison system and celebrity influence, highlighting the complexities of high-profile incarcerations.

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Advice Segment: Dear Toasters

Following the news, Claudia and Jackie transition into their beloved advice segment, "Dear Toasters," where they respond to listeners' personal dilemmas.

a. Navigating Relationship Roles [52:01]

A listener questions the dynamics of being asked to perform household chores by her boyfriend, seeking validation on whether her feelings are justified. At [53:02], Claudia advises, “You're being overdramatic... this is a nice, normal thing to do for someone,” emphasizing the importance of perspective in relationships.

b. Accepting a Fixer-Upper Gift [56:09]

Another listener grapples with accepting a gifted fixer-upper house from her father-in-law, despite loving her current life in the city. Claudia and Jackie encourage viewing the gift as a flexible opportunity, suggesting it could become a second home or a future investment, thereby shifting the listener's mindset from burden to potential.

c. Intimacy During Pregnancy [58:09]

A pregnant listener worries about the lack of sexual activity with her husband post-hospitalization during the first trimester. At [61:16], Claudia reassures her, stating, “Very normal. Nothing to worry about,” validating her feelings and normalizing the fluctuating libido and intimacy levels during pregnancy.

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Conclusion

Throughout the episode, Claudia Oshry and Jackie Oshry blend humor, empathy, and sharp insights, making complex topics accessible and relatable. Their ability to balance informative discussions with personal anecdotes and listener interactions creates a rich and engaging listening experience for both regular fans and newcomers alike. Notable quotes like Claudia’s “[19:06] I think she's very beautiful” and Jackie’s “[53:40] You want to be his wife, you better change your attitude” add depth and personality to their commentary, enhancing the overall narrative flow of the episode.

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Notable Quotes:

• Claudia Oshry at [19:06]: “I think she's very beautiful.”
• Jackie Oshry at [53:40]: “You want to be his wife, you better change your attitude.”
• Claudia Oshry at [58:09]: “Very normal. Nothing to worry about.”

This episode masterfully weaves together current events and personal advice, showcasing The Toast’s signature blend of wit and wisdom.

Transcript

[Claudia Oshry]

Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's Jackson Claude and we're your host.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's your favorite show.

[Jackie Oshry]

The best five things you need to know.

[Claudia Oshry]

We'll start your day off Swirly. It's the Toast.

[Jackie Oshry]

I sound amazing.

[Claudia Oshry]

Welcome back to the Toast and Happy Tuesday. Hope everybody's having a partialicious definition. And of course, Fergalicious Tuesday.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'm having a brutalicious Tuesday because that's.

[Claudia Oshry]

A good way to spend.

[Jackie Oshry]

Bruno is here. He heard that Rodeo had started coming to work pulling his weight. He started to feel guilty and he's back.

[Claudia Oshry]

You're having a. Would you say a brutalicious?

[Jackie Oshry]

Brutalicious.

[Claudia Oshry]

I'm having a Q Delicious.

[Jackie Oshry]

What's that?

[Claudia Oshry]

It's kind of a celebratory day in my community. Sorry, Q Munity. Because it's Tuesday and that means that.

[Jackie Oshry]

The DT Q, Q Delicious.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, it's a Q, Q, U, E.

[Jackie Oshry]

I thought it was like C U.

[Claudia Oshry]

T E. I mean, every day when you're turning Lou Freebush is a cutesy licious day.

[Jackie Oshry]

Every day on this show. We're such cute.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's Tuesday. After the vitriol that was sent my way for prioritizing my physical health last week and yes, skipping deer toasters, I'm back with a vengeance. I just want to say to the dtq, I was not only. I not only heard but was extremely hurt by your words last week. I don't know, you know, why we have to attack other segments when we're defending the dtq. Like, that's really hurtful. I'm sorry. Like I said, like, I was having a really tough day yesterday. Last Tuesday. This Tuesday, I got like nine hours of uninterrupted sleep. Like, I'm good. We will queue, we will dtq. But I just want to say some of you are acting really fudgeing out of control last week.

[Jackie Oshry]

Some of you should be ashamed of yourselves. Not even the attacking of other segments, which I understand you're lashing out, but.

[Claudia Oshry]

That'S where I draw the line personally.

[Jackie Oshry]

Feel any sort of way.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, you could. Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Wasn't okay. And that, Dear Toasters, is more important to you than your girl's health because guess what? Say she powers through that Dear Toasters, and you get what you want.

[Claudia Oshry]

But at what cost?

[Jackie Oshry]

What if she couldn't do the next day? We missed a whole episode because of Dear Toasters. Like, you guys really need to put things into perspective and be glad. And beyond that, she quit while she was ahead.

[Claudia Oshry]

Where I drew the Line was, like, with people coming for Weenie of the Week. Like, let's not. Let's not go there, okay? Just because you love one segment doesn't mean you have to put another segment down.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, if you want to come for Weenie of the Week, like, you're not hurting anyone. Right. Except for Claudia.

[Claudia Oshry]

You're hurting me.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, but I just think coming for the fact that we didn't do Dear Toasters on and we're not moving into another day. Like, we have a schedule.

[Claudia Oshry]

Schedule.

[Jackie Oshry]

We have things to do. Sorry if you didn't watch Real Houses, Beverly Hills, and you'd rather have deer toasters. Like, there's a lot of people who listen to this show. It's. Yeah, it's a community.

[Claudia Oshry]

And while I love the dtq, I'm always defending them. You guys turned on me last week, and I've been like, the. Like, your advocate, and so I didn't think that that was cool.

[Jackie Oshry]

Not the one.

[Claudia Oshry]

No. But having said that, like, we are back today with a vengeance. The submissions are amazing. It's going to be great. Can't wait to hear, everyone. But go easy on me, okay? Like, I am kind of the. The. The last standing dtq. A DTQ advocate. And you guys just.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's a teachable moment.

[Claudia Oshry]

People throw rocks at things that shine.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's a teacher. Just next time, zoom out a little bit.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Go to Patreon. We have, like, whole episodes dedicated to Dear Toasters.

[Claudia Oshry]

Speaking of Patreon, Jackie and I did something yesterday. We literally made ourselves so sick sitting in these chairs. Nor Jackie. Jackie nor I. We talked about this last week. Have ever really tried Crumble cookies. I have had a bite of a chocolate chip cookie from Crumble once. Like, I have to. I feel like I have to say that because people are gonna be like, no, you did. But we've never, like, eaten the menu items. We've never participated in crumble culture. And so we did yesterday. And of course, we filmed the entire thing. We tried all seven menu items in these chairs. We had them delivered. It was such a journey of unexpected results. I don't want to spoil it, so I won't. But if you're looking for our thoughts on Crumble as a concept, but also their individual cookies, we did a taste test of this week's menu items on the Patreon. It was hysterical. We felt so sick afterwards.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, I don't want to spoil anything, so I'll just say, like, head over to patreon.com the toast when you're done. Listening to this episode. Probably go over on desktop, not the app. Otherwise they'll charge you more.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Just a reminder, we have not raised our Patreon prices. 7.99 as always. That's what we made it when we started. It's like the Costco hot dog. It is 7.99 US.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, how are you keeping Patreon prices down Right in this economy? Just like the Arizona tea guy. Always right stories about him and his $1.

[Claudia Oshry]

So true.

[Jackie Oshry]

99 cents with his 4 billion dollar company. So he's so generous with his 1.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right, right. Why don't you give it away for free? Nobody that generous. Yeah, well, if you were to ask us, we haven't changed our prices. Although it appears as though we have. Because if you download the Patreon app on like I phone and subscribe, Apple has started charging a 30 fee. Like we don't even get that money. That. That blows. That goes to Tim Cook's pocket. Okay, so honestly, like go to patreon.com on your computer if you want to sign up. Don't go on actually, if you like. Whatever's easier for you. I don't know your financial situation.

[Jackie Oshry]

For the convenience of the app, that's also fine.

[Claudia Oshry]

But just know like, those extra few dollars do not line my pockets.

[Jackie Oshry]

They don't.

[Claudia Oshry]

They don't mind my pockets.

[Jackie Oshry]

Patreon.com toast.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. So that was a really fun thing we did yesterday. And then after that I got an at home prenatal massage which, like, I just, I planned the day poorly. My stomach was rumbling like I felt so sick after eating all those cookies, I couldn't even relax.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, I understand.

[Claudia Oshry]

It was not a good sequence of events.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, I had to like burn off all the sugar. Went grocery shopping, cooked a healthy dinner. I had taco salad. You know, I just needed health.

[Claudia Oshry]

I had chicken rocks.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yum. We're so south of the border. Literally.

[Claudia Oshry]

What's that Ed Sheeran song, South of the Border with the Camila Cabet. It was actually a good song, but I don't know how it goes.

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't know either.

[Claudia Oshry]

And there's a part where they go south of the border.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like us having dinner last night literally.

[Claudia Oshry]

Does have that energy. And then I was forced to watch the Nick game, which I do obviously like watching sports, especially when there's like a cultural, pop. Cultural connection. And basketball, I will say, of all the sports I feel has the least pop cultural connections. Except last night and I'm learning a lot about the Knicks. Like, I haven't really watched them in a couple of years. Jordan woods is, like, the number one wag. Do you know her man is like, the best player on the Knicks?

[Jackie Oshry]

I think you told us that.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, did I? Like, well, he's really shining. It's playoffs, so it's like, a big deal. And it's Carl Anthony Towns this, Carl Anthony Towns that. And then the other night we watched the game, and he went over when they won. They lost last night, but when they won, they followed him. Like when the buzzer buzzed and he ran over to Jordan. She looked gorgin sitting courtside. You know, wags don't usually sit court side.

[Jackie Oshry]

Well, celebrity wags do.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Did Ben go to the game?

[Claudia Oshry]

No. So I bet it's only the first round. And it was the first and second games of the first round. Like, okay, if it's a chance that, like, they win the game to go to the next round, like, he can go. But I'm like, please don't waste your time, like, leaving me home alone wasting money. Like, come on, watch it together. We'll have so much fun. We'll have so much fun. So we watched the first one together. I think it was on Saturday night. And, like, I just kind of got lost in my phone. I was not being, like, an active participant. And I was like. Like, I felt myself. I felt the game ending, and I was just like, seriously not paying attention. And he was like, you weren't really, like, watching and, like, talking with me. And I'm like, you're so right. You are so right. So if you were looking for me last night between the hours of, like, 7 and 9:30, I was so active. I was like, really trying to make. I'm like, that is amazing that they can do that. Like, it's so. And. And that's. That's Jaitlen Brunson. Right? I was so chatty and active, and I feel like it really made him happy. And, like, I. I got him to stay home for one more game, you.

[Jackie Oshry]

Know, Was that worth that? Sounds like a lot of work. Like, maybe you should just let him go to the game so you can relax.

[Claudia Oshry]

It was definitely a lot of work, but it wasn't worse than being alone.

[Jackie Oshry]

It wasn't. And is there maybe someone you could invite over, like a mutual friend of both of yours who could take on some of this work and talk to Ben about the game while them both stay home?

[Claudia Oshry]

But then we're not in bed, and if we're not in bed, we might as well be out of the house. You know what I mean?

[Jackie Oshry]

Could be in your bed, Satchel or Romeo. But Sachi wouldn't be a good pal.

[Claudia Oshry]

Not an active participant.

[Jackie Oshry]

And you wouldn't watch on your couch.

[Claudia Oshry]

I have such a love hate relationship. No, not okay. Don't be rude. That's not true. I have a very nice expensive TV in there.

[Jackie Oshry]

You know it was expensive because it was the fridge.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. And then you have to buy the frame separately. Okay, like, nobody talks about that. I just, I'm in my house, I'm in my pajamas, I'm laying down. Not on my couch. I mean, not on my bed.

[Jackie Oshry]

You're preaching to the choir.

[Claudia Oshry]

I feel like maybe before I got pregnant I was more open to the couch. But seriously, like, what am I doing on my couch?

[Jackie Oshry]

No, I'm, I'm trying to find solutions for you. But I understand it's an imperfect situation.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. And so we, our building has like this outdoor area. It's been so beautiful in the city. And there's like an outdoor TV couch set up. And like we keep saying, like, we'll have some people over, like, well, like, it's not happening. It's not happening.

[Jackie Oshry]

Rather do that than just let him go to the game. Yeah, have some people over and watch outside.

[Claudia Oshry]

You don't, you guys don't understand. I hate being alone and I actually like, kudos to that. I can't remember the last time I was alone. I've been really supported throughout this journey and so, yeah, I'll do whatever it takes in my home.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay, do what you gotta do, coach.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's what I'm doing.

[Jackie Oshry]

I watched Paul American last night. I know, you did so good. The flight fight with Floyd Mayweather was postponed because Floyd had an ulcer, which we knew, you know, in real time. So he's trying to find another person to fight him. And it's actually funny because Tommy Fury came up and that's what I was thinking. I was like, just fight Tommy again. Everybody loved that the first time.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, that was. I wish like, I had been more conscious of, of the Paul Fury. Like, I wasn't Claudia at the time of the fight. It was such a big deal and I didn't really know a lot about. I'm like, why do we care about these people?

[Jackie Oshry]

One of my life. Cigarettes.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, you too? Okay.

[Jackie Oshry]

What? It was not being conscious for the Jake Paul, Tommy Fury fight.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, like to have. I would have stayed up for it. I would have hosted people watched outside.

[Jackie Oshry]

A video of like a girl named Molly May cheering when she found out because she couldn't watch it and she was home with her baby and I was like, oh, I'm happy for her. That looks nice.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, it was very much like I watched it as an, like an outsider.

[Jackie Oshry]

So they were trying to think like who could sub in for Mike Tyson. They were like Floyd Mayweather, but he won't fight on seven weeks notice. Tommy Fury. And then they were like, Netflix said that'd be a big disappointment. It's like, damn, not Tommy fairy catching strays. But I understood what they meant, like to go from Mike Tyson from then.

[Claudia Oshry]

A prize winning fighter and to a.

[Jackie Oshry]

Rematch because he wound up fighting a guy named Mike Perry who's just like some fighter who's really good. Jake's never fought him before, so they were able to beat Billet like you know, the Violence King or whatever.

[Claudia Oshry]

But I feel like a rematch almost. Why would that denigrate and maybe I'm just offensive of Tommy Fury, but like why would that make it worse? If anything it's higher stakes. There's history.

[Jackie Oshry]

Especially because Tommy beat Jake.

[Claudia Oshry]

Correct.

[Jackie Oshry]

He's like the only person maybe who has. Right.

[Claudia Oshry]

Maybe that's why. Maybe that's why.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, he would have done anything like to make this fight. He like a good fight.

[Claudia Oshry]

He has a lot of money riding on it.

[Jackie Oshry]

A lot of money. The fans like to like. He, I, I don't think he's scared of anyone. I don't think so. And I think at some point he will refund fight Tommy Fury and he.

[Claudia Oshry]

Will win and we will be there. Like maybe we'll go, like we'll be so conscious. Let's go.

[Jackie Oshry]

Unless it's like across the world, but hopefully it's in Tampa with the rest.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh yeah. Was the last one in Dubai?

[Jackie Oshry]

I think so. Or Saudi Arabia.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay, what about Miami? What about Miami?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, Tampa. They do a lot of stuff in Tampa.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, that's wwe.

[Jackie Oshry]

They were in Logan.

[Claudia Oshry]

Logan. Yeah. Because Logan is WWE is headquartered.

[Jackie Oshry]

The name of the arena was something like the Amelie Arena. Tampa.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, that's wwe.

[Jackie Oshry]

Jake Paul was fighting.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, oh, okay. So wow. They hit up Tampa. I would go to Vegas. I feel like maybe they between like Phoenix. I would go.

[Jackie Oshry]

I will go. If the next Jake Paul, Tommy Fury fight is in the in the States, I will go.

[Claudia Oshry]

What about Puerto Rico?

[Jackie Oshry]

I will consider it.

[Claudia Oshry]

You don't need a passport. My passport's expired. I need to take care of that. Is it a kind of crazy feeling like I can't flee the country if I need to? It feels very like I'm Living on the edge.

[Jackie Oshry]

It is a weird feeling.

[Claudia Oshry]

It is, right? Yeah. Okay. I need to do that. But they said I need a new picture. And so obviously now I'm gonna have to delay that.

[Jackie Oshry]

You're on Ozempic.

[Claudia Oshry]

Correct.

[Jackie Oshry]

And then Logan and Nina are planning a wedding in Italy. They're looking at all these venues. They're so funny. They're like, this one's $1 million. This one is $3.6 million. They. They talk about the price of everything.

[Claudia Oshry]

I really appreciate that. Honestly, as somebody who planned a wedding.

[Jackie Oshry]

He'S, like, obsessed with buying collectibles. He bought, like, Wayne Gretzky's championship hockey stick for $336,000 thousand dollars. And he buys, like, a good price. Does it? But like, they're having a baby, and it's like, you have to stop.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay. But so obviously, $336,000 sounds like a lot of money, but, like, relative to his wealth, they're so, like, it's unbelievable how much money these two make. So I feel like when you said three, I thought you were to say $3 million.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. No money. 300 grand object for them. It's actually so fun to watch. And then they're also, like, having conversations like, our daughter will have anything in this world. She can go anywhere and do anything. Like, how do we make sure she's a good person?

[Claudia Oshry]

Right.

[Jackie Oshry]

And, like, she'll have to fly commercial. And Logan, like, you'll take her. I'll meet you.

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, I do feel like they are oddly. Even though they're, like, very extravagant. Whatever. I feel like they're oddly fiscally responsible. They've been making a lot of money for a really long time. And they're always, like, investing in new businesses.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yes.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, obviously they do crazy cars and things. Planes. But I don't worry about them the way like I used to worry about the Zolciac Biermann's. And I was right for that.

[Jackie Oshry]

They weren't making a lot of money like the Paul brothers.

[Claudia Oshry]

There was a brief stint where they were doing.

[Jackie Oshry]

Making Paul money.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, but I don't look at them and think that the Paul's are living beyond their means at all.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, not at all.

[Claudia Oshry]

They live extraordinarily, but well within their it's all relative.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. No, and they're saving all those taxes being in Puerto Rico.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's why I can't watch the show, because I'll be too jealous of all the money they're saving on taxes. Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

But I. Once again, I just want to recommend Paul American to. To the all American viewer because it's really an interesting show and I want.

[Claudia Oshry]

To dive in, but I do want to give a quick, brief, but honorable shout out to our Catholic community who thought everything we said about the Pope was so fucking funny yesterday. Like, no.

[Jackie Oshry]

Even though we didn't make any jokes, because we would never.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, we did, but, like, we were, like, giggling about stuff and they were like, no, you guys should totally come up with your Pope names. Because it's kind of how, like, we have Hebrew names. And when I was like, oh, yeah, like, duh. It's so appropriate, like, when everybody go through Mass, like, they come up with a name and they loved Turdy's version. The papacy.

[Jackie Oshry]

Well, that's beautiful. Beauty is beauty.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right. And Catholics respect beauty.

[Jackie Oshry]

There was nothing funny about that.

[Claudia Oshry]

Nothing funny about that.

[Jackie Oshry]

I've been seeing a lot of names being thrown around me, too.

[Claudia Oshry]

Different cardinals. I've seen six.

[Jackie Oshry]

You've seen six? I saw four. But, like, two people were, like, blocked out because the other two are the shiners.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Stars.

[Claudia Oshry]

I think it'll be a while. They. They go into a state of mourning with, like, an interim.

[Jackie Oshry]

There is an interim Pope.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right. And I. I think that's actually who Ray finds was in the movie, if I'm remembering correctly. So it'll be a while before they've elected a new Pope.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Hopefully there's no controversy. I could see, like, one of these candidates.

[Claudia Oshry]

Old tweets about liking Instagram models. Classic tale photos on Instagram.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. So they'll be on their best behavior.

[Claudia Oshry]

How are the stories today?

[Jackie Oshry]

Good. There are things we have to talk about, you know.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, well, let's. Well, let's talk about them.

[Jackie Oshry]

So let's dive in to the Fast 5 stories that you do need to know.

[Claudia Oshry]

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[Jackie Oshry]

Big fan. We love the lollipops. Great for kids.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, that's cute. Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Our first story, people's world's most beautiful woman is here and announced and it is Demi Moore.

[Claudia Oshry]

I think that's a great selection. She had a good big year. She's a beautiful woman. Of course, I can't really get into my annual speech about people's most beautiful woman and sexiest man alive and like, how different and strange they are. So I'll just say this good selection. I'm happy for Demi. I think she's very beautiful.

[Jackie Oshry]

She is very beautiful. Considering people's usual thresholds for this selection. And what I appreciate is that they always go with an older woman. It's not like max maximum bombshell. Even though Demi Moore could be on that list too. Like, I like their commitment to, you know, appreciating, respecting older women and not just like always, young girls.

[Claudia Oshry]

And no, it would be like Alex Earl.

[Jackie Oshry]

Right, Right. So I think given that, like, that's their parameters usually, like, this is the perfect choice. Like, they gave Julia Roberts the year off because Demi had a big year and everything about demise here was like, about her beauty, about her aging process, about to age with grace. And this. They couldn't have written it better. A better candidate couldn't have come across their desk.

[Claudia Oshry]

No. And I don't think we did predictions. I never would have predicted this, although it is like, so it's right in front of us. It's such a great choice.

[Jackie Oshry]

Obvious. Much. And more obvious than her being times most influential.

[Claudia Oshry]

Correct. Although it's clearly list time. A lot of lists coming out this year.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's only April.

[Claudia Oshry]

I know. Maybe there's like a mid season list.

[Jackie Oshry]

Obviously, the listened list.

[Claudia Oshry]

The lists that, you know, we love come out at the end of the year. But it does feel like we've been doing a lot of lists.

[Jackie Oshry]

I love lists.

[Claudia Oshry]

I love lists. Our listeners don't love lists.

[Jackie Oshry]

I know they don't. But the good one, the good thing about this, it's not like 1 through 100. It's just more World's most beautiful decided by people. The photos are really beautiful. She's talking gorgeous the last year. Her experience with the substance and the way the movie was received and aging and motherhood and, and it's just exact. Like when you look up people's most beautiful in the dictionary, like, you will.

[Claudia Oshry]

Find this has to me ever been before because it's a title you can hold multiple times. Just Australia Roberts.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's where things go the rabbit hole. We gotta look at the history.

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, I can also just ask AI people's most. How many times has Demi Moore been people's most beautiful woman? I also read that you shouldn't tell chat gbt thank you or please.

[Jackie Oshry]

It takes up like a lot of energy for them to process those words just once.

[Claudia Oshry]

2025. Julia Roberts holds the record with five appearances on the COVID honor as the COVID honoree.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, no, that feels right. So I saw that you're not supposed to, like, say please and thank you to AI. I always say please like, hey Chibi, like, please recommend a book for my book club because I'm not like a Neanderthal.

[Claudia Oshry]

I don't know why please would.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's just another word that they have to process. And then like, apparently AI like takes a lot of energy to process it. Those servers get really hot and it just contributes to global warming.

[Claudia Oshry]

I, I had read a little while ago, like, every time you ask AI a question, it burns like one double a battery.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, I, I, it's more than that. I think, like, every time you ask a question, like, you kill a polar bear.

[Claudia Oshry]

No. And I know that these like, our real problems, like, they're just not my problems. You know, I, like, I need information for my podcast and you. So Sam Altman, whoever, like, figure it out. No.

[Jackie Oshry]

And like, you guys create, like, it's so not our problem whatsoever, but I.

[Claudia Oshry]

Will say so not our. You foisted this mechanism onto us.

[Jackie Oshry]

I understand that please and thank you, like, take up energy, but I think if people get used to, like, asking for things without saying please and thank you, it's always totally lost to like, the rest of society. And I think it's worth the expenditure. I do.

[Claudia Oshry]

I actually think that's a really brilliant analysis because I was just going to cut out please and thank you, and then it's like, what kind of monster am I?

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't say thank you. You. I've moved on because also most of the time they haven't given me what I've really Needed.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, are you talking about. You don't say thank you in real life or just to AI?

[Jackie Oshry]

AI? Oh, my God.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, me neither. Like, no, I got what I needed. Bye.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, like, I'm not sticking around TTYL.

[Claudia Oshry]

I have a life 1,000% who's, like, sitting, having pleasantries.

[Jackie Oshry]

I always say please.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, of course.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's really funny. It's a funny anecdote.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, it is. But you're right, we shouldn't forego the pleasantries.

[Jackie Oshry]

I think it's worth it. Sorry, Pleasanter. Bears. Sorry. Penguins. Manners from first.

[Claudia Oshry]

Siri.

[Jackie Oshry]

Sir.

[Claudia Oshry]

The thing is, you can't blame me. I didn't invent AI. I'm just like a prop in the machine.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. But to get back to our question, the previous sexiest beautiful women last year. I wasn't asking, but okay, last year, Sofia Vergara. Feels right.

[Claudia Oshry]

Did I tell you I saw her at a restaurant the other day?

[Jackie Oshry]

No, I don't think you did. That's surprising.

[Claudia Oshry]

Party lish.

[Jackie Oshry]

Most beautiful, would you say?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, I. I was, like, actually really taken by her. And also at the same facility, the same evening I saw Reese Witherspoon.

[Jackie Oshry]

Wow. Has she been. She's next, by the way.

[Claudia Oshry]

Definitely.

[Jackie Oshry]

She's definitely next.

[Claudia Oshry]

Then the thing is, you have to agree to sit for it. And there's, like, an interview that's associated. And not everyone wants to do a.

[Jackie Oshry]

People magazine interview in promotion mode. Reese would 100% do it if she had something coming out. 100.

[Claudia Oshry]

I don't know. I don't think that she would.

[Jackie Oshry]

Why?

[Claudia Oshry]

Because when I think of the tier of press that she would do for any, like, promotional. Whether it's like a new book or whatever, I just think it exceeds People. Even though People is, like, literally the largest magazine in this country.

[Jackie Oshry]

I think you're wrong.

[Claudia Oshry]

I think she, like, I don't think that I am.

[Jackie Oshry]

She was on a press tour and it was most beautiful. She would do this in a heartbeat. It's so like her brand. And I disagree. Audience, I disagree. The year before, Melissa McCarthy. I don't remember that.

[Claudia Oshry]

Me neither.

[Jackie Oshry]

Then Helen Mirren, 2022.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay.

[Jackie Oshry]

Chrissy Teigen, 2021. I don't like that. Like, not because she doesn't fit the molds. Like, sorry, bikini model, please. Like, agreed.

[Claudia Oshry]

Get out of here. Go back to Sports Illustrated.

[Jackie Oshry]

We're respecting, like, older women. Okay.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Aging gracefully. Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Then the year before that, I actually think it was. It was three people. Was Goldie Hawn, Kate Hudson, and Ronnie Hudson Fujikawa, which is so Cute daughter. So it's three generations of beautiful women.

[Claudia Oshry]

So cute.

[Jackie Oshry]

So cute.

[Claudia Oshry]

So cute.

[Jackie Oshry]

The year before, Jennifer Garner, like, a perfect selection.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Jennifer Gardner is like, of the Julia Roberts elk.

[Jackie Oshry]

You know who else is gonna have her chance at this soon? I think Kelly Clarkson.

[Claudia Oshry]

1000.

[Jackie Oshry]

She's coming up. Her time is coming.

[Claudia Oshry]

Completely agree.

[Jackie Oshry]

She's extremely beautiful and she's the elk of people's most beautiful.

[Claudia Oshry]

I mean, she's like, so American, so accomplished. It's. It's a great call. Confidence, attitude, a list of predictions that are definitely going to come true.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's, like, so obvious. I don't even feel like I made a great call. I feel like.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, you did. You did. Because I didn't know what you were gonna say. Like, you obviously did.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay. The year before Pink, I want to.

[Claudia Oshry]

Let you know, like, I actually don't care anymore. Like, beyond the last 10 years, but feel free to keep going.

[Jackie Oshry]

Well, it's like we're not even.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay. Oh, okay. She got me out of technicality.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay. But then, yeah, the years before, like, Jennifer, Julia Roberts, Jennifer Aniston, Sandra Bullock.

[Claudia Oshry]

The usuals, the Julias and the Jennifers.

[Jackie Oshry]

Exactly.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

So mazel toe to demi more.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Great.

[Claudia Oshry]

Another great accolade this year for you.

[Jackie Oshry]

Almost as good as an Oscar.

[Claudia Oshry]

Almost.

[Jackie Oshry]

Our next story is some very exciting product news because Khloe Kardashian is launching cloud protein popcorn that snackers don't have to feel guilty about.

[Claudia Oshry]

So, yes, she's been teasing this for, like, a little while.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. But in the last, like, 24, 48 hours, more teasers have come out. And now the official announcement. The Easter baskets of the Kardashian children at Chris's Palm Springs Easter celebration had so much stuff in them, including popcorn that said cloud KH L O U D and its protein popcorn. So eagle eyed viewers saw that and now it has been officially announced that she is launching cloud protein Popcorn popcorn, a seed oil free snack that contains more than three times the amount of protein.

[Claudia Oshry]

She's such a podcaster. I'm sorry, her seed oil free popcorn cl.

[Jackie Oshry]

She's one of us.

[Claudia Oshry]

She's a like a. You know, you're like, really entering the podcast sphere when you launch a protein product.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, no, when you're talking about seed oils. Even though, of course, like, seed oils are bad. I've seen it, like, I've seen it all about seed oils and I will hopefully stay away from them, but I'm not as passionate about seed oils as a usual podcaster and mother.

[Claudia Oshry]

I can't really be that like emphatic about seed oils because apparently my beloved I can't believe it's not butter spray is like just exclusively seed oils and I can't give that up. Therefore I can't give up seed oils.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. That's why like I like to shop at Thrive Market because like they don't have seed oil. Like I don't but I'm not always looking, you know. And I'm sure seed oils get into my everyday 1000%. But down with seed oils. Like down.

[Claudia Oshry]

But that's like, that's the big marketing thing of the moment. So Chloe launching a product that's obviously like a protein packed snack which is great seed oil free. Like that's what the peeps are looking for, the health conscious folk.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. So. And it's a popcorn. And she said I'm at this stage in my health journey for the past few years that I've been really trying to up my protein intake. I'm all about muscle definition and being strong and healthy. Not just skinny, but skinny's nice too. She didn't say that.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, no, for me like I'm okay just being skinny.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, it's like you can say that when you're skinny. Like she is like she is skinny, you know.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. No, and I just like, I want to say like that's enough for me. Diano.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, yeah. It's actually not for her because she works out so much. Like she does need protein.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes, 1,000%.

[Jackie Oshry]

But it's like nice to say that like when you're already skinny. She said protein wise I'm not someone that's going to sit down and have steak and eggs all day long and I need to consume protein. I was going to fitness stores to get protein grab and go and they don't taste very well in my opinion and they're filled with so much filler and artificial stuff and I really just wanted something selfishly that tasted great that didn't have a ton of ingredients in it that I could fill my protein intake with. I have to say she's gonna be a billionaire. This you think, oh my God, I'm gonna. As long as it's tasty, I'm. I would eat this all day long. And then assuming it does well, which popcorn is a huge category. Weirdly like there's so many boom chicka pop. Like people love healthy popcorns. It's an easy thing to be healthy. It's not that fattening.

[Claudia Oshry]

Then take it to like the quest chips level is she's the first to.

[Jackie Oshry]

Do it and then she can do all sorts of protein snacks. She could be the next quest.

[Claudia Oshry]

She could, she could. I. I'm not so sure really.

[Jackie Oshry]

What are your, what did you think when you saw it?

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, I don't know. I just was like I actually, I don't have clear thoughts on it. I didn't think immediately this is brilliant or this is stupid. I was like as a concept, yes. Like we're all snacking all the time so like your sex could be a little bit more, you know, protein filled. Like that's great. And the fact that there really hasn't been that when you, when you think of like protein snacks you think of quest. You think of like real like meathead snacks. You know what I mean? Like so this is like a par. Lesser evil. I don't know. I don't know. I'm not sure.

[Jackie Oshry]

And the thing is for me, I don't like getting my protein from like non protein sources. Like I do if I want protein, like I'm going to have chicken, I'm going to have eggs. Like I don't want a protein chip. Like actually I don't, I don't feel like okay, I got my protein. It just feels like very phony. So even if these, this popcorn didn't have protein, if it was just like healthy pop, if it was lesser evil type popcorn like and it was tasty, just like puffcorn that we love.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes. The what's like air.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like air. I would be so down. I'm always looking to expand my portfolio but like the fact that it has non artificial added protein. However you can get protein into popcorn. Please someone explain to me one day, not today, I don't care is a bonus. I think it's brilliant.

[Claudia Oshry]

I need to try it and then I'll give more thoughts. I think it's, it has potential, but I'm not 100 sure.

[Jackie Oshry]

I think this could be big business. I mean the food category, look at Siete.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's also a category that the girls haven't, haven't infiltrated yet. I feel like a lot of their brands sort of like overlap with one another and they're like all in the same category. This is totally new and different. I feel like the only thing I can think of similar is weirdly the Jonas Brothers have a popcorn company.

[Jackie Oshry]

I didn't know that.

[Claudia Oshry]

But it's more like artisanal. You know, it's like delicious because they're boys. Like it doesn't need to be healthy and it sells. It does Pretty well, I think. I think it's called Robs.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Something really random like that. So this isn't totally new. New thing for her. And so maybe that's why I don't have, like, clear thoughts, because I don't, like, I don't have a good example to reference as, like, somebody who did it right. You know, I think.

[Jackie Oshry]

And also, there's so many brands like this, like, New age health brands started by moms who are on a mission. Right. Mom on a mission, you know, to seed oils and get protein for my kids and their.

[Claudia Oshry]

But this isn't for kids.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's not. Not for kids.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, really? I feel like it's not for kids.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, I feel like it could be for kids.

[Claudia Oshry]

I don't know if you need, like, giving your kids, like, protein popcorn, but.

[Jackie Oshry]

Maybe not like babies. Well, actually, you can't even have popcorn until a certain age. It's a choking hazard. But, like, I'm sure true takes down some cloud.

[Claudia Oshry]

I don't know.

[Jackie Oshry]

Why not?

[Claudia Oshry]

I don't know. It just feels weird. Like you're giving your kids, like, a protein shake.

[Jackie Oshry]

I think some people give their kids protein shakes.

[Claudia Oshry]

You really?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, like, maybe.

[Claudia Oshry]

I don't know what else.

[Jackie Oshry]

When I make a little. When I make a Flav City protein shake, like, I'll give my kids a sip. They love it. Oh, they would love it.

[Claudia Oshry]

They would love it.

[Jackie Oshry]

What was I. So anyways, she has, like, the right background. Mom on a mission to make snacks.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's a good name, too.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'm on a mission to make snacking better. I can see her on Shark Tank.

[Claudia Oshry]

It has her name. I would love to see her as a guest Shark. Like, her name is. Is obviously a part of the title, but it's also like Cloud Popcorn. Like, that's just a good name.

[Jackie Oshry]

And then she could just be like, Cloud Foods.

[Claudia Oshry]

Correct. Cloud Incorporated. She's Craft Cloud Incorporated.

[Jackie Oshry]

She's Marjorie Post.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. That's a better example.

[Jackie Oshry]

So watch out. I. You guys better watch out for Chloe.

[Claudia Oshry]

We're watching.

[Jackie Oshry]

We're flying Coco Air soon. Up in the clouds. Cloud air.

[Claudia Oshry]

Do you think they feel, like, competitive at all with one another, the sisters?

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't think so. I really don't like if you. If we all. All, like, had businesses and everyone's living well and enjoying life and, like, you had a plane and I didn't like. I just want to ride, you know?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, as long as you're generous with the plane.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. And I think this. It seems as though the sisters are yeah. So we'll be flying cloud air soon. Can't wait. Mazel tov. Chloe, you love to see a podcaster.

[Claudia Oshry]

Doing big things and doing big business.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Are you ready for our next story?

[Claudia Oshry]

I am. I don't even need to ask what number it is. I just know it's number three.

[Jackie Oshry]

The Academy sets a new Oscars rule for 2025. You need to watch all.

[Claudia Oshry]

And suddenly things make sense.

[Jackie Oshry]

You need to watch all nominated films in order to vote in a category. So apparently this was not the case up until today. The Academy of Motion.

[Claudia Oshry]

And now I understand, like, how films like Amelia Perez and Nora made it this far. Nobody actually saw them.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, they were, like, voting based on vibes, how it felt and how it looked. Judging a book by its cover. Literally.

[Claudia Oshry]

Literally.

[Jackie Oshry]

The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences has approved new awards rules, updated campaign promotional regulations, and key dates for the upcoming 90th Oscars. The nominations voting period will run from January 12 to January 16. Among the most notable changes are revised voting requirements, the introduction of an achievement. An achievement in casting award. Oh, I love that. Perfectly cast.

[Claudia Oshry]

I love that, too. Hairspray. Give it posthumously. The Hairspray. Give it posthumously to Hairspray.

[Jackie Oshry]

To sleep over.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes. Jane Lynch.

[Jackie Oshry]

And clarified guidance on the use of general artificial intelligence in film production. The updated rules also include expanded eligibility for international filmmakers and new submission deadlines across several categories. In a key procedural shift, Academy members are now required to view all nominated films within a category to be eligible to vote in the final round. While it's surprising this wasn't already a formal requirement, questions remain about how the Academy plans to verify compliance and enforce the rule. So basically, they have, like, a streaming service that they send to all the members where you watch movies so they'll be able to see who watch movies. But say you saw the movie at a festival or at the movie theater, you'll have to, I don't know, like, submit your ticket.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, yeah, well, there are ways, first of all. And second of all, I obviously didn't.

[Jackie Oshry]

Know a little quiz about the movie.

[Claudia Oshry]

I obviously didn't know that, like, you didn't need to watch the films. I just assumed that you did. Right. And I obviously, like, this should be the rule, but the fact that it wasn't. And now they're making it one like, we're talking about it. They almost should have left it as it is, because now we all know that for literally. What's this? Coming up on the 90th Oscars, like, now we know that the 98th then we know the 97 before this were genuinely, like, fraudulent.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

It calls into question every Oscar ever given out.

[Jackie Oshry]

I think there was a time when, like the best movies of the year were nominated for the Oscars. You know, in the golden age of Hollywood. Wizard of Oz, Titanic, like, where they saw the movies because they wanted to see them. The movies that get nominated now, nobody wants to watch and that's why they're not watching them.

[Claudia Oshry]

But also, it's easy to assume, like, everybody in the Academy saw the wizard of Oz. Right. Because it was like the biggest.

[Jackie Oshry]

Because everybody in the world saw the wizard of Oz.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right. And now they're just like, choosing these random indie films like nobody saw it.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, exactly. And that goes back to the original issue that they're like, choosing the wrong.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, I mean, I obviously have my issues with the Oscars. As somebody who really got invested this year, I saw kind of an ugly side of it. And this doesn't shock me. Gross mismanagement.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Really, really crazy. Makes a lot of sense. Do better Oscars do.

[Claudia Oshry]

She said it. She said it.

[Jackie Oshry]

Are you ready for our next story four?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, I think I'm ready.

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't know if you're ready.

[Claudia Oshry]

You don't think so?

[Jackie Oshry]

No, no, you're ready in the sense. Okay, need to read an ad. But if you're ready in the sense of what I heard today.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, okay, wait, hold on. Let me, Let me prepare myself.

[Jackie Oshry]

Kevin Costner stepping out for lunch with a mystery woman. Whatever. After.

[Claudia Oshry]

Not Lou Angela Costner.

[Jackie Oshry]

After Jennifer Lopez dating rumors. Did you know that he was rumored to be linked to JLO at the moment?

[Claudia Oshry]

I feel as though I did know that because what you just said didn't shock me.

[Jackie Oshry]

Interesting. Kevin Costner was spotted stepping out for lunch with a mystery woman in LA on Monday. He was seen just out and about. Months after he sparked dating rumors with Jennifer Lopez. He opted for a casual ensemble and was spotted with this woman. And I am looking at the pictures of him and the woman, and if it's the woman in the picture, like they're not on a date because she's carrying a backpack, but.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, oh, they should have put that in the headline.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, big backpack too.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay, now I have to see how big is it.

[Jackie Oshry]

Go to page six. No, no, Claudia, it's a non date backpack.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, okay, no, obviously there's no such thing as a date backpack.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's so true. Unless it's like a little, you know, little like.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, yeah, Product backpack.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Steps up for lunch with mystery Woman. Oh, she's got a huge backpack.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's not a date.

[Claudia Oshry]

1,000% not.

[Jackie Oshry]

They're working on something.

[Claudia Oshry]

Also lunch with a backpack. Like, lunch is so casual. Backpack is so casual. These two people are genuine co workers.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, but it's bringing up the fact that he spotted with JLo. It looks like they were. Oh, they were at Kimo Sabe in Aspen in December.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay, so I just feel like a lot of famous people were at Kimo Sabe and Aspen in December.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay, but like I'm looking at a picture of JLo, someone's hat and Kevin Costner, like in the same room, in the same table.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay, let me say. Well, that also just happens with famous people, you know, but let me say.

[Jackie Oshry]

Think when JLO met Kevin, what happened?

[Claudia Oshry]

To be clear, in this photo, like, and this is obviously the best photo they got, they're not even addressing one another. She's talking to her son and he's showing somebody something on his phone.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, but they're like at. They're at the same table.

[Claudia Oshry]

You don't know that to be true.

[Jackie Oshry]

Children.

[Claudia Oshry]

And I feel like Kimo Sabe is just like that type of place. Like, okay, but okay, so say he's.

[Jackie Oshry]

Seated next to Jennifer Lopez coincidentally when Kevin meets JLo, like, don't you think real recognizes real? Age appropriate handsome. Recognizes age appropriate beautiful.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's the thing. I'm not sure because I actually don't know what Kevin Costner is looking for after his divorce because I don't think he dated JLo and I don't think he's dating the woman with the backpack. So, like, what is his type? I actually don't know who has. He actually. Wasn't he connected to Jewel? Okay, so he does like an age appropriate musician. JLO could be the next one for him.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's what I'm saying. She's very beautiful and enchanting. So I just feel like even if he met her, but she did meet her in this Kimo Sabi, whether or not they went home together, he met.

[Claudia Oshry]

Her, they obviously said hello to one another. Yeah. Bare minimum.

[Jackie Oshry]

I feel like things could.

[Claudia Oshry]

Could escalate. I don't hate that.

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't hate it either. It's kind of.

[Claudia Oshry]

He is someone that she would date and she is someone he would date.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Claudia Oshry]

And I feel like they both like, enjoy the finer things in life. They both live well. I think all famous people do. It's sort of a requirement to get.

[Jackie Oshry]

Into Hollywood in December.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's actually crazy that the Real Housewives Beverly Hills, like film there. Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Because it's so cool.

[Claudia Oshry]

Because it's so cool. It's so high brow. Like during the season of like people go to Aspen pretty much like twice a year. Right? Like during new Year's. And then ski week is like a thing in L. A. And you always see like literally it's not even just celebrities. I don't think like anyone could just get it. It's such an upper echelon a list. Like politicians. Like, it's so high class. And they also filmed Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. They're like, they must have gone in the off season for sure.

[Jackie Oshry]

It was in December. They don't even film in December.

[Claudia Oshry]

Was it snowing? Like, I don't even think it was Aspen season.

[Jackie Oshry]

Cold. But it wasn't frigid.

[Claudia Oshry]

Maybe fall.

[Jackie Oshry]

Did they even ski?

[Claudia Oshry]

No. The more you know, the more you know.

[Jackie Oshry]

Anyways, just now holding out hope for Kevin Costner.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's really interesting. Thank you for sharing that. I. I didn't. I don't know if I consciously knew that, but I feel like maybe we made it a story.

[Jackie Oshry]

I feel like I would remember, but maybe I didn't. But also, Jennifer Lopez could be a world's most beautiful woman one day.

[Claudia Oshry]

Has she not been?

[Jackie Oshry]

I didn't read her name, did I?

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, no, you didn't. And I do feel like the time. Her. Her time is also coming for.

[Jackie Oshry]

To be it.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Like, I think she could also use that sort of blanket positive kind of.

[Jackie Oshry]

Mindless press PR in a good way.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not been a good year.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Well, never stop dreaming.

[Claudia Oshry]

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[Jackie Oshry]

I think so too.

[Claudia Oshry]

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[Jackie Oshry]

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[Claudia Oshry]

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[Jackie Oshry]

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[Claudia Oshry]

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[Jackie Oshry]

Talking about protein.

[Claudia Oshry]

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[Jackie Oshry]

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[Claudia Oshry]

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[Jackie Oshry]

Thank you, Coach Dilla. Woj.

[Claudia Oshry]

You're welcome, soj. You're welcome.

[Jackie Oshry]

So De la Costner. Okay, our next and fifth and final story is a story that I don't personally really care about, but I feel like people will, which isn't a great way to choose stories. You know, I actually.

[Claudia Oshry]

I think it's quite selfless of you.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. But it's like when you buy a gift for someone and it's like, well, I don't love it, but I think they will. You should always love it yourself.

[Claudia Oshry]

Because I also don't agree with that.

[Jackie Oshry]

You don't?

[Claudia Oshry]

No.

[Jackie Oshry]

I think the idea that gifts are.

[Claudia Oshry]

About the person that you're giving it.

[Jackie Oshry]

To, it's like, you should love it and think that they will love it too. Not just like, I'm gonna get you this thing I think is ugly, but I think you would like it.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, but that shows that, like, you know them so well. Like, you're not prioritizing your own taste over theirs. Oh, no, I actually. I disagree with you. So I think the story is going to be great.

[Jackie Oshry]

Tiger King star Joe Exotic gets married in prison.

[Claudia Oshry]

Jackie.

[Jackie Oshry]

To skip to an inmate doing time for immigration crimes.

[Claudia Oshry]

Jackie, I'm sorry. I didn't realize that's what we were talking about. I would have agreed with you the whole time. I feel as a podcaster, as a comedian, as an influencer, and as a content creator, there are some lines I won't cross. And talking about Joe Exotic is a personal boundary of mine.

[Jackie Oshry]

I agree. I'm so not interested in this person. However, when I saw he got married in prison, I was like, you could do that. And there's, like, wedding photos, and they're both in prison.

[Claudia Oshry]

So I think in certain facilities, I think if you're, like, in Max for, you know, murder, you're not out here having ceremonies. But based on my book, the Many Lives of Mama Love, which I highly recommend if you want looking to learn about the prison system, there are different tiers of prisons, and a lot of them are in the spirit of rehabilitation. Right. Like, they want you to leave with a better life. And so they encourage classes and GD and whatever gardening. They give you a job. And maybe he's at a facility such.

[Jackie Oshry]

As that where they encourage people to find love.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right. I didn't know. I guess I. I guess I thought that, like, you can marry, like, your girlfriend on the outside. I didn't know, like, two inmates inside could get married.

[Jackie Oshry]

Right. And then it's like, are there co ed prisons where people could fall in love with people of the other gender? Because a lot of prisons are single gender, so you could only fall in love.

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, even there are, I feel, co ed because in the book there was. But they're in completely different buildings. Like, it's the same prison but different wings you never see. Because that is like a recipe for disaster.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yes, it is. It is.

[Claudia Oshry]

So, no, I don't think that you can meet an opposite sex inmate and fall in love.

[Jackie Oshry]

Right. So it could only happen with same sex.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right?

[Jackie Oshry]

It could happen.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's a good point.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, I never.

[Claudia Oshry]

And. And it's feeling familiar to me, but I don't know if I knew that Joe Exotic was engaged. No, Gay.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's feeling familiar to me.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, I know. I think that it was, like, talked about in the documentary, but, like, that was an Ion ago.

[Jackie Oshry]

Well, he shared a picture of him and his new husband posing together in tuxedos and plain white hats with boutonnieres to match. He said, never been more proud of someone he's here for. He's in jail for immigration crimes. And so I think now that they're married, maybe he could say. But Joe has said, like, even if he has to go back to Mexico, like, I will go with him.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, I didn't think about the potential, like, green card, but he's like, maybe that's not real.

[Jackie Oshry]

He said, we're working on getting him asylum or we will be leaving America when we both get out.

[Claudia Oshry]

I just feel like the immigration, like, police whose job it is, like in Chuck and Larry, right, when they had to pretend and they have to go through all these steps to, like, prove that they're a real marriage. I just feel like they're going to take one look at this couple they met in prison. It's, like, too convenient. And I think, I think it's. They're not going to. They're not going to pass any sort of litmus test for American immigration. I just. That's how I feel.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay. But then he will go back to Mexico with him. And if he does that, like, That's. That's love.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, it is. I'm definitely down to be rid of Joe Exotic in this country, but he's.

[Jackie Oshry]

Serving like a 21 year sentence. Oh, no. You know, he has been deserving a 21 year sentence for plotting to hire a hitman to murder. Sorry, who's Maldonado? Joe?

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, you're asking me what Joe Exotic's real last name is? I'm sorry, that's beyond my. No, no.

[Jackie Oshry]

Maldonado Jorge Flores Maldonado is the husband. Yeah, but wait, so he was. He's in prison for hiring a hitman to murder big cat arch rival Carol Baskin.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, no, that's Joe. Exactly.

[Jackie Oshry]

So this is a typo in this New York article.

[Claudia Oshry]

What's the other guy in prison for? What's an immigration crime? Is that being here illegally. They put you in prison?

[Jackie Oshry]

I thought deport you for immigration issues, according to CBS News. Let's dig deeper.

[Claudia Oshry]

Maybe he's like. Maybe he's a citizen who's like smuggling people in. He submitted and abetting.

[Jackie Oshry]

He was convicted in 2019 on 21 counts in. Maldonado was convicted?

[Claudia Oshry]

We're confused, baby.

[Jackie Oshry]

Joe already took his last name because listen to this.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, I'm sorry. Oh. Oh.

[Jackie Oshry]

Joe Exotic's real name is Joseph Maldonado. Jorge is now Jorge Maldonado. Oh.

[Claudia Oshry]

So how are we supposed to know which Maldonado they're referring to?

[Jackie Oshry]

But Jorge May Flores is originally from Mexico. He's serving time for immigration related issues, according to Joe's news release. Okay, and no one wants to let us know what those are.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, because if you correct me if I'm wrong, if you are arrested for an immigration crime and your crime is being here illegally, they don't throw you in an American prison. They send you back.

[Jackie Oshry]

Joe Judice. You pay, you do the time and then.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, but Joe wasn't here illegally. That's what I'm saying. True, he was just a they. But another slap on his wrist and you're deported.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, that's true. Like if you're not living here.

[Claudia Oshry]

So maybe he's in a similar situation as show judicia, this guy Flores, like, maybe he committed a crime and after he serves his time as another added punishment, they're sending him back to Mexico.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, they're hoping to be.

[Claudia Oshry]

This is why I didn't want to talk about this. Like, these people are a drain.

[Jackie Oshry]

So I'm learning so much. I'm having so much fun. Yeah, they're a drain on like society's and my brain and your tax dollars.

[Claudia Oshry]

Don't get me started on my tax dollars.

[Jackie Oshry]

But Joe Exotic has also requested a presidential pardon for both he and Flores, as well as asylum for Flores, so we'll see.

[Claudia Oshry]

I have also requested a presidential pardon from ever paying taxes again, and I haven't heard back, so get in line. Joe Exotic.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, I. Let's see if that comes through for him.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, I don't think in the meantime, while we wait, we'll wait with the DTQ every Tuesday, except for last week, Jack and I do Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment where we try to help the swirlies in need. They write in to us about things we got in their relationships, families, whatever it may be. We're open to hearing about anything and we try our best to help. Now, if you want to write in, you can send us an email to your [e-mail] or feel free to head over to our website, the toastpodcast.com scroll down. There's a little submission box that says to your toasters. Both methods are totally anonymous. We'll never blow up your spot. Ready to dive in?

[Jackie Oshry]

I'm ready.

[Claudia Oshry]

Hi girlies. My boyfriend and I are both 25 years old and we've been dating for three years. He lives in a studio, I live in a house with roommates, but we are planning on moving in together next lease cycle. I'm writing because my boyfriend keeps asking me to do what I consider wifey status favors for him. For example, I was doing some work from home from his apartment while he went to the gym and before he left he asked me if I could switch his laundry to the dryer since the washer cycle would end while he was out. He also wanted me to hang dry his jeans. I did it to be nice because I am a natural caretaker, but I told him that these are not girlfriend chores and it probably won't happen again. I feel like volunteering is one thing, but he asked me to do it, which annoyed me. He accepted it, but definitely did not comprehend why it was a big deal to me. Am I. Am I being overdramatic? And is this a normal nice thing to do for someone I care about? If not, how do I get him to understand wife versus girlfriend status?

[Jackie Oshry]

I have to say, what am I missing? No, she sounds insane.

[Claudia Oshry]

I chose this one. I chose this one because it was important that we tell you you're absolutely crazy like but first of all, it's your boyfriend. So even like you just you as a human being, if somebody asks you for a favor like, yeah, you just do it because they're like, what, this is your boyfriend.

[Jackie Oshry]

So you're in this house you want not the job you have.

[Claudia Oshry]

So you clearly want to be promoted. You have been promoted. You want to be promoted to girlfriend. And let me to wife. Let me tell you, this is not the way to do it. You're coming off so naggy and, like, unhelpful. Asking somebody to just flip the wash. Like, I would do that to a.

[Jackie Oshry]

Friend, like, while you're, like, in their house. Apartment.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, you. I understand your goals and I'm aligned. I want to get you there. Your method is so off because this is not making him think, oh, this is a person. I want to marry him.

[Jackie Oshry]

I hope she hangs, dries my jeans. I should propose so she'll do. So it's like, no, you have to ingratiate yourself into his life that he can't live without you. So of course he's going to propose.

[Claudia Oshry]

No. And if you're just, like, at every turn with him, asking you to flip the washer is, like, literally the least big deal. You're making a mountain out of a molehill. Like, maybe that doesn't endear him to be like, oh, I want to marry this person. It's more like, oh, this person's kind of, like, naggy.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, you've got to walk the walk. And if you had cited a lot of examples, like, he's treating you like, you know already, like a maid. Yeah, like a maid. And asking him to. You to cook for him and, like, already, like, assigning these roles, like, I could maybe see how it's not exactly what you want, because these things could come naturally. But, like, asking him to flip the laundry while he's out, like, that's a very natural way to start helping.

[Claudia Oshry]

And it's not even about wife versus girlfriend. It's just, like, a human being thing. If your roommate was out being like, hey, I have to run to class, can you just flip my stuff into the dryer? It's such a normal thing to ask.

[Jackie Oshry]

You could ask the same of him. He's not just asking you because you're a woman. He's asking you because you're home, you're there are wet sitting in the washing machine.

[Claudia Oshry]

I'm so sorry. I hate when we get a submission where we can't, like, root for the girl and we.

[Jackie Oshry]

I really do always try, because I know that's a criticism that we've gotten is that we're always, like, bashing the toaster.

[Claudia Oshry]

So, no, that's so untrue. I feel like it's our last resort.

[Jackie Oshry]

And we really don't like indulge you guys at all. But sometimes it's really important to let you know that's how season.

[Claudia Oshry]

And by the way, you did ask am I being over dramatic? And this is a nice, normal thing to do for someone. Yes, to answer your question, you are being overdramatic. And yes, this is a nice, normal thing to do for someone.

[Jackie Oshry]

You want to be his wife, you better change your attitude.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, because we're still. We're selling, right? We are selling you. And right now you're being right. Right now you're putting forward like kind of naggy energy. Whereas if you were putting together like generous, lovely, easygoing, that's someone you want to marry.

[Jackie Oshry]

This woman makes my life easier. I can't imagine her, not my life without her.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, that.

[Jackie Oshry]

They have a strand. You got a strand. Claudia.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, my hair looks weird.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's okay. Just a strand.

[Claudia Oshry]

Barry, how's that?

[Jackie Oshry]

Perfect. Beautiful as ever.

[Claudia Oshry]

Next up. Hey, Jackson Letter. I'm wondering if my father in law has gone too far this time. My PJM husband and I live in a big city, but we grew up in a small town. Small city where our families still live. For years, my husband's family has been on our backs about moving back. While my family's happy for us being where we are. The other day we got a phone call from my father in law that he's bought us a fixer upper home in our hometown as a gift. My husband is so excited. While I could not be less enthused. While the gift is so generous, I can't help but feel like the decision was made for me without my input, which does bother me. I love where I live. I love my career. What's a girl to do? Yeah, I mean it's a really generous gift, but it's obviously like also a threat.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, but like your family's also there so it's not just like them trying to shoehorn you into their life. Like to me this sounds so beautiful and lovely. Like go back to the small time where you have both of your families and you're going to raise your family and maybe you, I don't know if you have kids yet. You didn't say and so maybe you want to stay in the big city and then eventually move to the small town. So take the next few years. Few years to fix up the house. It could be like a part time house, but like don't look a gift horse in the mouth, my friend. A free house is a free house.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. I feel like it's important to know if you never want to move back to this small town or just not yet. Because if not yet. Jackie's right. Fixer uppers take forever. You could rent it out. It could become. And then when you're ready, you feel like your career is at a place where you can move a little bit out of town or you want to start having kids. Yeah. But if you never want to live there and it's like not even an option, which it doesn't sound like it is because your family also lives there.

[Jackie Oshry]

Sounds like a dream.

[Claudia Oshry]

It does. And I guess this is all about perspective.

[Jackie Oshry]

And like, I know I'm. I have to respect the fact that, like, you want to stay in the big city and you might never want to move back to your small city, but I just can't relate to you.

[Claudia Oshry]

I know, I know. So we have to like, we. It's perspective. Right. Because we're putting.

[Jackie Oshry]

Maybe relate more anymore.

[Claudia Oshry]

No. If somebody bought me a house like I would.

[Jackie Oshry]

Where your family is and their family is like free babysitting for life.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Bought you a goddamn house.

[Claudia Oshry]

If somebody bought me a house in the place in which both Ben and I's families lived, like, I'm there already. I'm there.

[Jackie Oshry]

But listen, she has different already there.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. I'm putting up sconces. I got crown molding.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'm the sunshine in your hair.

[Claudia Oshry]

And you know what? Maybe you're gonna start a fixer upper project, start sharing it on social media. Then you become a famous influencer. And it would never have happened and had it not been for this gift.

[Jackie Oshry]

From your small town. And you can quit your big city job that's bringing you no joy.

[Claudia Oshry]

But that's not what she said. She loves her big city job.

[Jackie Oshry]

What did she say about city?

[Claudia Oshry]

She says, I love my career and I love where I live. She said those exact words. So we're projecting. We're not being helpful because we are projecting.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. And it's like, I love my career too. And. And it doesn't tie me to a big city. So that's not fair of me to like, put that on you.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right, right. No, like, we could do our jobs from anywhere. So, like, we would be like, well, just go home and be a big career woman from your house. But that's probably not the case. So in terms of actual tangible, helpful advice, you need to decide if you never want to live in this place, which I feel like you Don't.

[Jackie Oshry]

But what if it's your second home then? And that's where you stay when you go back and visit your family.

[Claudia Oshry]

Love that. It's a gift. So, like, you didn't have to pay for it. That's a great idea.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. I think this is, like, really so, so fantastic.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's doable. It's doable.

[Jackie Oshry]

I think it's so fantastic. And you can make it. You could make it what you want, and you could go as much or as little as you want, but it's overall a really nice thing.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. And just make it work for you. Look at it as a. I feel you're looking at it. At it as a burden where I was like, look at it. Get creative. Jackie's right. Second home, maybe eventually.

[Jackie Oshry]

House. And.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Cleaning.

[Claudia Oshry]

Give it to me.

[Jackie Oshry]

Give it to me.

[Claudia Oshry]

I'll show you how to do it.

[Jackie Oshry]

Give it to me.

[Claudia Oshry]

All right, next up and our third and final hello swirls. I'm in need of some advice from the gals. I'm five months pregnant. My husband and I have had sex once since we found out I was pregnant. I had a really rough first trimester. I had H.G. i was hospitalized. But thankfully, I'm well past that now, and I'm feeling pretty good. This is my first pregnancy and first within my family and friends, so I don't have anyone to really ask. Is it weird to not be having sex? I have not initiated anything, and to be honest, I'm not really in the mood as I'm trying to accept all these lovely bodily changes for the first time. My husband has not made me feel bad or even brought it up. I think he knows that I'm really not loving this journey. I guess I'm asking if this is normal, weird, or should I bring it up? Are we just not going to have sex for, like, a year and. No, sorry, Claudia. My husband is not gay. He's not having an affair. And I think he's. I think he's genuinely just a good guy who can read the room. And thank you for that. Signed, a content but guilty feeling toaster. Now, let me say this. I totally feel you, because he's 1000% gay and having an affair with a man. Multiple. No. When I first got pregnant, Ben, like, the first, when I was so nauseous, like, I would say it ended, like, three and a half months, I was like, oh, my God, I will never kiss my husband again. Like, I think he's the most revolting man on the planet. Like, everything he does sends A chill of rage down my spine. His breath could kill someone. Like, I. I was kind of making peace with, like, I will. I will seriously never be attracted to this person ever again. But let me tell you, it really goes away. And I feel like yours is just taking a little bit longer because I feel eventually I've heard, like, both things I've heard from people. Like, one, hated my husband the entire pregnancy. Like, wanted to kill him, thought he was disgusting, couldn't believe I was having kids with him. And then the second being, like, never loved my husband more. So obsessed with him, so attracted to him. Like, my body, like, craved his smell, pheromones. And I feel like both are totally normal. Some people have both in one pregnancy. That's what I feel like I had. Some people have one in one pregnancy, and I feel like it's totally fine. Like, there's nothing wrong with this.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, pregnancy makes women hornier. Sometimes, yes. Sometimes not. Especially if you've had a really hard time. I feel like women who have been through hg, like, deserve the world, and whatever you want, you get is yours. So if you're not feeling it and it's not always what's best for your body, like, can be painful. Like, I think if you go your entire pregnancy without having sex, it's not a big deal. Like, an awful thing. Not at all.

[Claudia Oshry]

No. I completely agree.

[Jackie Oshry]

Pelvic rest after I had my saclage.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, get away from out of here. No, some people, definitely. I think sex helps them. Helps them feel beautiful, feel connected to their partner. You feel kind of distant from your vagina because you literally getting physically further away from it. So it feels. You feel connected to your body. And then some people, it's like a strain. Like, not only does it hurt physically, it doesn't make you feel good. So just lead with your own feelings. There's literally neither of them are wrong. Neither.

[Jackie Oshry]

If you're not wanting it, don't do it. If you are, then do it. And the fact that your husband's not saying anything, like, it's not weird. Don't feel like, oh, my God, I'm the only person in the world who didn't have sex when they're pregnant. And my marriage. Marriage is over. And we're not gonna like to stop counting, even if it winds up being a year, even if stop counting, it's really not a big deal. There's a time in life for everything, and sex will always be there.

[Claudia Oshry]

No. And gratitude is so important because I feel like we need to be grateful to your man, some people's husbands are such. Such, like I. This was a trend on Tick Tock. It made me actually really sick. People sharing, like, their abusive husband stories and like, how, you know, showing up to your six week, post op, post labor appointment pregnant because, like, your husband pressured you into having sex. Like, some men are such animals about it. Like the fact that your husband's not even bringing it up because he doesn't want to make you feel uncomfortable. Like P. John. That's when you say my husband's a P job. Like, that's fucking B job.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

So I want to worry about it.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, don't. Do not worry about it for one second. Take care of you. This is not a cause for concern at all.

[Claudia Oshry]

No. And I feel like.

[Jackie Oshry]

Very normal. That was mostly her question.

[Claudia Oshry]

Very normal. I feel like if you do it and you don't want to do it, like, you will really regret it.

[Jackie Oshry]

No.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like it won't make you feel good.

[Jackie Oshry]

You don't have. Yeah, it's up to you. Very normal. No, I feel like she was thinking like, oh my God, everyone's having sex when they're pregnant. And I'm not like, no, they're Nothing wrong with us. No, no, you're very normal.

[Claudia Oshry]

Did you talk?

[Jackie Oshry]

No. Did you?

[Claudia Oshry]

No.

[Jackie Oshry]

You always talk.

[Claudia Oshry]

I know. I thought you were in the middle of a sentence.

[Jackie Oshry]

I finished normal.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay, whatever. We'll leave it in our wi fi cut out for two seconds. That's all though. What was the last thing you said?

[Jackie Oshry]

Like I said, very normal.

[Claudia Oshry]

Very normal. Nothing to worry about. Seriously. That's your toasters. Hope the DTQ has been satiated sufficiently. And don't forget to write in if you have an update for us. If we've read your submission on air or you have something you want to share with us, please. Dear toasters, gmail.com thetostpodcast.com thank you so much for listening to the dose of my morning show where we deliver the Fast 5 stories you need to know every Monday, Friday and YouTube. So if you're watching us on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe. Give us video thumbs up or also podcast. Podcast can be found. Public radio, I heard basic. What?

[Jackie Oshry]

Anywhere burps can be found.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, no, I'm really burpee these days. Sorry. And no, I'm not doing burpees. I'm burping a lot. That was misleading. I know you guys probably saw me and thought, she's doing a lot of burpees. Wherever, podcast around, leave a five star review about a beautiful setting and wickedly talented. We are.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, love yeah, yeah, yeah.