Namesake with Ben Soffer: Friday, May 29th, 2026

Summary

The Toast – Namesake with Ben Soffer (Friday, May 29, 2026)

Hosts: Jackie Oshry with guest co-host Ben Soffer
Absent: Claudia Oshry (out sick)
Episode Theme: A lively, swirly Friday episode featuring sibling dynamics, family news, reality TV deep-dives, podcasting culture, and playful takes on pop culture—with special focus on "Namesake," the ongoing Summer House drama, and podcast launch parties.

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Episode Overview

This special episode of The Toast kicks off with Jackie holding down the fort while Claudia’s out sick. She’s joined by frequent guest and family member Ben Soffer (aka "Lish"/"Good Guy Ben"), making for a sibling-filled, candid chat. The episode ranges from the secrets of keeping pregnancies private to reality TV critique, podcasting industry jabs, Knicks playoff excitement, and the endless debate over pop culture “namesakes.”

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Sibling Chemistry & Dynamics ([00:03]-[02:10])

• Jackie intros the show, jokes about her intro skills, and Ben offers playful critiques on audio hygiene (distance to the mic, hugging habits).
• The duo jokes about hugging rituals, Ben’s abstention from hugging since 2019, and the underlying closeness of family relationships.

Notable Quotes:

• “That’s why I stopped giving you hugs in 2019.” – Ben ([01:00])

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2. Big Family News: Secret Pregnancy & New Nephew Arrival ([02:21]-[05:21])

• Jackie and Ben reveal they have a new nephew, celebrating Olivia (their sister) giving birth to a boy.
• Reflections on keeping the pregnancy secret, handling nosy questions from friends, and the group pride in not spilling the news.

Notable Quotes:

• “You think we’re a bunch of big-mouth yentas, but we can keep a secret.” – Jackie ([03:25])
• “Can people stop putting me in a position to tell you somebody else’s business?” – Ben ([03:57])

Memorable Moment:

• Introducing “Yolito,” Olivia’s funny catchphrase during a Mahjong night, which becomes a running joke. ([06:23])

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3. Sneaky Projects & Podcasting Culture ([07:11]-[09:21])

• Jackie and Ben discuss working on “secret projects” and the trend of announcing new ventures before anything’s done—encouraging a “work in silence” approach, referencing Olivia’s secret pregnancy as inspiration.
• Jibes about the “podcast launch party” phenomenon, highlighting how most podcasts don’t last beyond episode one.

Notable Quotes:

• “Let’s stop announcing that we’re starting something and just… ba-bam.” – Ben ([07:28])
• “They love a party for a start. They love a podcast launch party.” – Jackie ([07:56])
• “99% of podcasts don’t make it past the first episode—how about you have a party on your sixth year?” – Ben ([08:04])

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4. Podcast & Family History Reflections ([08:45]-[11:55])

• The duo reminisces about their early podcast, "The Breath," and transitioning to The Toast, joking about how dramatic and short-lived earlier projects felt.
• Playful banter about creating rogue podcast merchandise and inside jokes about using terms like “BH” (Baruch Hashem).

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5. Knicks Playoff Fever & Celebrity Fans ([13:10]-[17:28])

• Ben details his Knicks fandom, playoff plans, and inter-state travel logistics depending on the matchup, with updates about the team’s current success.
• Conversation shifts to celebrities at Knicks games—praising Timothée Chalamet and Kylie Jenner for their happy courtside presence, while shading Spike Lee for wearing a Palestinian-support pin at the NBA All-Star Game.

Notable Quotes:

• “The Knicks are the best team in the NBA, whether people give them their credit or not.” – Ben ([14:53])
• “Mr. Chalamet is my new Spike Lee.” – Ben ([16:11])

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6. Pop Culture, Movies & TV ([17:28]-[19:13])

• Light debate on favorite films, Timothée Chalamet’s career, and which movies Claudia refuses to watch.
• Ben laments Heath Ledger’s death and extols “The Dark Knight Rises” as an all-time favorite (with some disagreement).

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7. Namesake Podcast: The Concept & Love Island Cast ([24:52]-[27:14])

• Jackie pitches her dream “Namesake” podcast, only interviewing celebrities who share names with family members.
• Discussing the new Love Island cast, including notable names that fit the Namesake criteria.

Notable Quotes:

• “We only interview people who have the same names as our children or family members… Like, we don’t get to choose who we talk to.” – Jackie ([25:08])

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8. The Ben Platt/Jewish Hollywood Discussion ([27:15]-[29:41])

• Ben discusses attending summer camp and trips with Ben Platt; addressing a rumor involving outing Ben Platt on a trip (it wasn’t him).
• Deep dive into Jewish Hollywood, the Platt brothers’ diverging public stances on Israel, and family/community loyalty.

Notable Quotes:

• “One is beholden to Hollywood standards… Josh is so brave for his constant, unwavering support for Israel…” – Ben ([27:38])

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9. Reality TV Deep-Dive: 'Summer House' Chaos ([34:27]-[49:08])

• Ben and Jackie examine the latest on Summer House: the Amanda/Kyle divorce and the West/Amanda drama.
• Ben shares first-hand conflict with Kyle Cook regarding business (Spritz Society vs. Loverboy), defending his and Craig’s character, decrying Kyle’s “shady” behavior.
• Discussion on love bombing, the toll reality TV takes on marriages/friendships, and the “Summer House good people power ranking.”

Notable Quotes:

• “The amount of divorces that come out of reality TV… you end up doing things for fame that don’t align with family values.” – Ben ([34:27])
• “Spritz Society is a family, friendly brand… Loverboy has been nothing but a toxic force.” – Jackie ([44:39])

Memorable Moment:

• Ben shares that he tried to collaborate with Kyle, but his olive-branch text was ignored. ([43:01])

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10. Kardashian Drama: Tristan Thompson’s Vasectomy ([54:27]-[64:09])

• Recap of Tristan Thompson’s appearance on Khloe Kardashian’s podcast, revealing he got a vasectomy at Khloe’s insistence, following multiple cheating scandals.
• Examination of Khloe’s deep forgiveness, extended family dynamics, and the catch-22 of dating/parenting with high-profile partners.

Notable Quotes:

• “He’s third trimester Thompson, as they call him, because of him cheating on her in the third trimester.” – Jackie ([56:01])
• “Why are they so forgiving? Are they more afraid of what would happen if they weren’t?” – Ben ([56:29])

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11. Music Industry, Masters, and Scooter Braun ([64:21]-[69:36])

• Jackie and Ben react to Scooter Braun’s new podcast interview, discussing his side of the Taylor Swift “masters” controversy.
• Perspectives on artist-label contracts, the shift in industry power due to TikTok, and how new artists break through.

Notable Quotes:

• “You can’t blame [Scooter] for how the music industry works… It’s not his problem, it’s the seller’s problem.” – Ben ([67:00])

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12. Music Rundown & Nostalgia ([69:39]-[74:33])

• The hosts swap favorite new and old artists: Ben confesses to 2000s music loyalty, while Jackie names new artists (Teddy Swims, Alex Warren, Olivia Dean, Ray).
• Fun nostalgia run-through: David Guetta, Neo, Akon, Tayo Cruz, and concert plans.

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13. Closing Segments: Queenie & Weenie of the Week, Book Chat, and Skinny Spritz Update ([74:40]-[78:24])

• Queenie of the Week: Olivia (honored for her secret pregnancy and new baby).
• Weenie of the Week: “Remarkably Bright Creatures” movie adaptation (panned for poor adaptation).
• Short book chat on “Yesteryear,” (Freaky Friday–meets–trad-wife story).
• Announcing: Skinny Spritz is sold out in 50% of Targets nationwide.

Notable Quotes:

• “She’s the obvious Queenie. Yolito. Mazal Tov, BH. Thank God.” – Ben ([74:59])

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Notable Quotes & Moments with Timestamps

• On keeping secrets:
  “You think we’re a bunch of big-mouth yentas, but we can keep a secret.” – Jackie ([03:25])

• On the rise and fall of podcasts:
  “99% of podcasts don’t make it past the first episode—how about you have a party on your sixth year?” – Ben ([08:04])

• On Summer House drama:
  “I just hate reality TV for the people involved when they don’t know what they’re getting themselves into… it just makes you hate your spouse.” – Ben ([34:27])

• On music industry contracts:
  “You can’t blame [Scooter] for how the music industry works… It’s not his problem, it’s the seller’s problem.” – Ben ([67:00])

• ‘Yolito’ running joke:
  “Yolito. Oh my God, Olivia, you are truly sick. You are one of one. Yolito.” – Ben ([06:41])

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Key Timestamps for Important Segments

• Intro & Sibling Banter: 00:03–02:21
• Family Pregnancy Reveal & Yolito Origin: 02:21–07:00
• Podcast/Projects & Launch Party Discourse: 07:11–09:56
• Knicks Playoff & Celebrity Fans: 13:03–17:28
• Namesake Podcast Idea: 25:07–27:14
• Ben Platt/Jewish Hollywood Analysis: 27:14–29:41
• ‘Summer House’ Reality TV Deep-Dive: 34:27–49:08
• Kardashian/Tristan Scandal Recap: 54:27–64:09
• Music Industry/Scooter Braun: 64:21–69:36
• Music Favorites & Concert Plans: 69:39–74:33
• Queenie & Weenie/Book Chat/Skinny Spritz: 74:40–78:24

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Final Notes

This episode showcases the signature Toast mix: family warmth, snackable pop culture takes, righteous rants, and knowing self-parody. The chemistry between Jackie and Ben is irrepressible, making even the heaviest reality TV or podcasting subjects light and relatable. From secret pregnancies to podcasting meta-commentary and Bravo drama, it's an all-in-one Friday catch-up for fans and pop culture junkies alike.

Obligatory signoff:
“The millennial show you know and love… The greatest show on earth. Love ya, bye!” ([78:24])

Transcript

[A]

Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast. It's Jackson Claude and we're your host. It's your favorite show, the best five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the Toast. They sound amazing. Welcome back to the Toast. Happy Friday. Today is a very special, special and different day here at the Toast. One, I did the intro and I can intro all day. And two, I have a very special guest co host joining me today who goes by the name of Lish.

[B]

It was a beautiful intro.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

You had great vibrato.

[A]

If I'm being like Claudia today sounded wonderful.

[B]

Okay.

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Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Really close. Really? I don't think you're close enough.

[A]

You don't?

[B]

I'm just saying, like, especially somebody who like, is. I don't know, you don't want to be too close to things. Do you know how many people have been close to your mic?

[A]

I know, and I appreciate that you're aware that I don't want to be too close to things.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, I know.

[A]

But you're perfect.

[B]

That's why I stopped giving you hugs in 2019.

[A]

That's great. I didn't even notice.

[B]

Yeah, no, I know. I would love to, though.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

You let me know when you're ready to receive a hug. I'll let you know that sometimes if

[A]

I haven't seen you in a long period of time.

[B]

But know that I'm like, I gave

[A]

you a hug when I came to New York, Right?

[B]

You did. But know that I. Anytime I walk into a room, I'm there to give you a hug. But I am consciously saying, you know, it's okay, Ben, she knows that you would give her a hug.

[A]

Okay, let me ask you something. Like, do you think every time you see me, like, where supposed to hug?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Like, so this morning when we're.

[B]

When I. I would have loved to have given you a hug. I would have loved to have given you a hug. Maybe. Maybe even a kiss on the head.

[A]

It didn't even cross my mind.

[B]

A light kiss on the head, a hug and a light.

[A]

Well, as long as the producer says we can hear him. Good.

[B]

Can you hear me? I don't have to do this.

[A]

I'm going to trust that, you know, this sounds good.

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This is what I'm.

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Trust that you know your volumes because you're professional.

[B]

And by the way, he can always raise my volumes.

[A]

But he raises me already.

[B]

No, I'm saying in post they can raise my individual volume. So even if it's over here or if it's over here, I don't have to. It's not an ice cream cone.

[A]

I really hope Claudia's an ice cream.

[B]

It's not an ice cream cone.

[A]

I hope Claudia is not watching.

[B]

She's definitely watching this. She's watching this for tips.

[A]

Hey, Clawd, we miss you. Claudia is out sick today and while, like, I. I'm sad to not be with my sister who I love and adore and who I'm so simpatico with, I'm actually, like, excited for a little lish on the dish.

[B]

It's fun.

[A]

Dish in with lish.

[B]

Yeah. Dish in with lish.

[A]

We have a lot to talk about today. The stories are sort of like things that we talk about often. But I'm excited to get your take. Great fresh perspective. And also today's like a very exciting day because we have a new nephew.

[B]

We do. We do.

[A]

We have a new nephew.

[B]

We do. We do. Oh, we said that it was a boy. Okay. We have a new nephew.

[A]

Yeah. Well, she posted a blue heart.

[B]

It was the blue hearts. I was thinking that it's just like subtle, but.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Okay. And then Shapiro wrote like nine big hearts. Blue hearts. So I was like, okay, we're drilling it in. It's a boy. New nephew. And wow, New nephew. Just dropped Mazaltov.

[A]

He's cute. He's so cute. We're so happy for live like another surprise secret Kylie Jenner pregnancy.

[B]

It's really so cool that she does that.

[A]

I know.

[B]

It's just like a mic drop, but it's a baby.

[A]

Yeah.

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Just like the baby just like is here.

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I know. It's very exciting. We will get her on the Patreon to tell us her truth whenever she's ready. So just know, like, if you're looking for her story, like, we're going to get the exclusive on Patreon, but mom and babe are doing well and we're all just like, so excited. And also, like, not to make it bad us, but like, we get a baby. No. And like, we kept the secret totally.

[B]

And it's.

[A]

You think we're a bunch of like big mouth yentas, but, like, we can keep a secret.

[B]

I kept the secret too well, to the point that every time I saw her, I forgot that she was pregnant.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, it's like because she told no one and we just didn't talk about it. Every time I saw her, I was reminded that she was pregnant and I was excited again.

[A]

Yeah. And it's funny cause, like, she didn't share it publicly. But, like, in our personal life, like, everybody, like, knew and friends and this and that. But, like, people would ask me, like, is she having a boy or girl? I'm like, I don't know that I can say. But meanwhile, she was telling. Like, she was, you know, living her life freely and telling everyone. But I'm like, I'm not gonna be the one.

[B]

Can people stop. By the way, this is very important. Can people stop putting me in a position to tell you somebody else's business, Stop asking me the gender of somebody else's baby, because I'm put in a terrible spot, you know? I know, but you also wouldn't be asking me if you thought that it was appropriate for me to tell you. You would be asking them.

[A]

Oh, well, I just say.

[B]

But you're circumventing you. You think you're doing something.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But you're not. You're just. You're just making me feel like shit. Does that make sense?

[A]

I'm sorry you're struggling so with it. I just say I. I'm not sure if she's sharing. I forget.

[B]

You can lie like that if you want to.

[A]

No, no, I. I wasn't sure if she's sharing.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

I wasn't sure if she was sharing.

[B]

Oh, that's good.

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Yeah.

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Put it back on her.

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Yeah, I was like, you know what? I actually don't know if she's sharing the gender.

[B]

I don't know if she's sharing. Not saying, I don't know if I want to share. That's. I'm gonna steal that.

[A]

I mean, it's, like, basic.

[B]

That's really.

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Enjoy.

[B]

That's really good. I don't know if she's sharing.

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Yeah.

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I don't know. I don't know if she's sharing. I know I'm not, because I'm not here to get in trouble.

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No, no.

[B]

But I don't know if she's sharing. You should ask her.

[A]

I'm a vault of information. But I hope Olivia's watching today because this show is so new. Mama friendly. I feel like a lot of people become toasters, like, in their postpartum era, when it's, like, quiet. You want a little, like, adult companionship. So, Olivia, I hope you enjoy the show. Yolito.

[B]

Yolito.

[A]

Do you know Yolito?

[B]

No, but she sounds wonderful.

[A]

I'll tell you, Yolito, it's actually a funny story we told on the toast, but it's really funny. When we were playing Mahjong the other day, you were playing with us.

[B]

Which, by the way, might have actually

[A]

been there for Yolito.

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Loki. I won a lot.

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Yeah, you're good when you're not holding up the game.

[B]

No, by the way, I hold up the game because I need to strategize. You guys are so fucking quick. Like, I don't even know how you plan. You actually. You're a different story. Claudia is so fast.

[A]

What's my story? You.

[B]

Like, you're a little slow, but. Sorry. A little fast. A little fast.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Claudia is very fast. You're fast, but I do think that you, like, strategically. Look, sometimes I don't even think she looks.

[A]

Yeah. Interesting.

[B]

So fast.

[A]

So sometimes I get to a spot, like, especially when I'm playing, like, certain hands where you can, like, keep changing hands based on what's coming.

[B]

And, like, that's what I try to do.

[A]

Yeah. But other times I'm playing a hand, I'm locked in, you know, I'm picking up all threes and threes only.

[B]

And if you're locked in, then you can move fast. But if you're straddling two positions, never lock, because I'm always straddling positions.

[A]

Sometimes you don't need to straddle. Like, if you're playing the winds, you

[B]

have to see my cards. I don't get. I don't. I don't get wins.

[A]

But anyways, we were playing mahjong and Claudia started talking about Ruby's belly button. And she was like, is this weird? Blah, blah, blah. And Olivia goes, yolito.

[B]

Does that mean I wasn't there?

[A]

Like, yolo.

[B]

Like, oh, Yol. That is so Olivia. Oh, my God. Yolito. That is so Olivia. That is the funniest thing I've ever heard. Yolito.

[A]

So Olivia.

[B]

Yolito.

[A]

Like, Ruby's having belly button schmutz. Yolito.

[B]

Yolito. And he doesn't have schmutz. My Ruby is perfect.

[A]

That's what Claudia was saying. But it was just like, yolito.

[B]

Yolito. Oh, my God, Olivia, you are truly sick. You are.

[A]

She is.

[B]

You are one of one.

[A]

One of one.

[B]

Yolito.

[A]

One of one. You like that, right?

[B]

All for one.

[A]

Yeah, all for one. We had some fun stuff brewing this week, but we'll just leave it at that.

[B]

It's just like, we're just like, I

[A]

don't know, sneaking around, secret project after secret project.

[B]

Sneaky, dude.

[A]

We're so sneaky. But the thing is, it's like, I don't. I'm not sneaky. For a sneaky Sake. I just, like, you have to, like, work in the dark and shows up in the light, you know?

[B]

Oh, yeah, Like Olivia. Let's all be like Olivia during pregnancy. Yeah, let's stop announcing that we're starting something and start. Just.

[A]

Just be like, ba. Bam.

[B]

Because every time you tell me that you're starting something, I don't believe you anymore. Because you started it and then you never finished it. Jackie and I never saw it at the end. No, not you.

[A]

I'm like, okay, that's not you. The people, the royal you.

[B]

The world. Yeah, the world loves to celebrate a start.

[A]

I agree.

[B]

They love a party for a start.

[A]

I agree.

[B]

They love a podcast launch party.

[A]

Oh, my God. You have an issue with podcast launch parties as well, obviously.

[B]

How about you make it?

[A]

Wait, whose are you thinking about?

[B]

Just in general? I'm not thinking of one in particular, but I remember reading a statistic that 99% of podcasts don't make it past the first episode. So how about you have a party like you guys guys do on the years for your sixth year or that are important.

[A]

We only had a party for the sixth year.

[B]

Yeah, good guys. Good guys. No party.

[A]

We had a party.

[B]

We had no party.

[A]

We had a party for one year because that was like, a major milestone.

[B]

It also wasn't really one year.

[A]

It was like two years of podcasting. But no, like the fact that we got our show off the ground to a place of success.

[B]

No, I'm saying it was breath plus toast equals new party.

[A]

But when we did the toast. One year party, yes, we had been podcasting for two years, including the breath, but the. The toast had been a year.

[B]

The breath was a year.

[A]

Yeah, less.

[B]

The fuck?

[A]

Less than a year.

[B]

You're lying. No, the breath feels like it was like a decade.

[A]

The breath was less than a year. The totality of the breath.

[B]

The breath is like a Disney Channel show. Do you ever look back and you're like, what? Lizzie McGuire was two seasons?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Like, what are you even talking about? I watched it from 1995 to 2005.

[A]

The breath was a Disney Channel show. It was. It was a short run. It was less than a year.

[B]

That's insane. All that drama for less than a year. You guys are really sick. Not you. You guys, the world. I'm saying you. You is the world. You guys are really fucking sick.

[A]

But not you.

[B]

No, not you.

[A]

Not you. Not you, dear reader. Not you, dear reader.

[B]

Maybe you. Not you.

[A]

Only you who are watching.

[B]

Not you. Maybe you adjacent, but not you.

[A]

I agree. I Understand what you're saying.

[B]

Less than a year.

[A]

Less than a year. So in hindsight, it's like, great. Not that much time wasted.

[B]

It's fantastic.

[A]

But at the time, it felt like our whole lives.

[B]

Yeah, it felt like everything, but it was less than a year. And it led to just, like, such a triumphant return.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

We had a return on after a year. Less than a year. What was the return? Didn't even start. I know you technically threw a party.

[A]

I do feel like they cut us up at our knees, like, before we really got started. And in hindsight, like, thank you. Because imagine you build this monstrosity.

[B]

Oh, my God. Such a gift.

[A]

Such a gift.

[B]

Such a gift.

[A]

We were able to build the monstrosity on our own terms.

[B]

Hashem moves in mysterious ways. Yeah, really mysterious. But power to be bh. Should I make BH merch? Just a hat that says bh. You like that? You know how Modi makes Moshiach Energy merch?

[A]

M E. So what does it say?

[B]

Bh.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Pretty cool, right?

[A]

Are you just, like, making rogue merch?

[B]

I've made rogue merch before.

[A]

You have. So I'm asking, are you doing it again?

[B]

I'm not sure. I don't know why I make rogue merch merch. Yeah, I do. I do. My keto season merch was freaking fire.

[A]

Yeah, it was. It was a moment in time.

[B]

It was a moment in time.

[A]

You had to be there.

[B]

You really did. You really did. Supreme logos and all.

[A]

But I guess if you, like, start saying BH on the good guys, you can make a part.

[B]

Okay, so you don't listen. Yeah, we say it every year.

[A]

No, I don't listen. So you can.

[B]

You don't listen ever.

[A]

You don't listen to the toast.

[B]

I do sometimes also. Come on it. You want to come on Good guys?

[A]

I think I've been on a couple times.

[B]

You want to come on again?

[A]

Sure.

[B]

Okay. Today?

[A]

Today?

[B]

No. Monday.

[A]

Monday. I'll think about it.

[B]

Okay. That's a no.

[A]

No, it's not a no. I have to, like, look at my calendar.

[B]

Your calendar's open.

[A]

What time do you guys record? Where do you record?

[B]

We record here.

[A]

We record here. Okay.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I guess, like, at 1:00'.

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Clock.

[A]

Oh, could you.

[B]

You'd have to. We go to lunch. No, I take you to lunch. We have a nice time.

[A]

Get a manicure.

[B]

Get a manicure. Lunch.

[A]

I'll think about it. When do I have to let you know?

[B]

By today, because it's Friday.

[A]

Are you, like, pinched on the guest for Monday.

[B]

No, I think we have. We. We. 90% of the show is not guests.

[A]

Got it.

[B]

But we have the occasional guest. I actually think we have a guest

[A]

on Monday, so I'm getting in the boot.

[B]

No, no, there's two. We do two. We bulk.

[A]

Oh, bulk. Batch.

[B]

Batch is the word. Not bulk. Batch.

[A]

You guys certainly bulk.

[B]

Who do I have on Monday? Yeah, we're bulky. We're bulky. Who do I have on Monday? I don't remember.

[A]

They'll be so honored.

[B]

You should really watch the Maury Povich episode.

[A]

I should.

[B]

Oh, Maury's a king. You are, Maury.

[A]

You think so? Yeah.

[B]

Just like.

[A]

I think Maury and I, like, have a similar energy.

[B]

He's just like a Palm beach, like, cool house in Montana. You will be. You want to be Maury.

[A]

That's goals for me. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Maury Povich is legit super cool. That's one of the many.

[A]

I think we had Maury on once.

[B]

You did?

[A]

We did, actually.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

Or was it Dr. Drew?

[B]

I think it was Dr. Drew.

[A]

You think?

[B]

I don't think you had the great Mori.

[A]

More. He's like, more. I think it was Maury.

[B]

You had the great Maury Povich.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Maybe you also had a Rob.

[A]

It was over. Zoom.

[B]

Did you have Rob Gronkowski on the breath?

[A]

On the breath? Yeah.

[B]

That was pretty cool.

[A]

Breath got cool casts.

[B]

Really cool.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean breath. Studio. Woof.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Breath spent every penny. It made more than the pennies it made.

[A]

Breath made zero pennies. That was like the point.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And we had plenty of pennies.

[B]

Plenty of pennies.

[A]

That was the other point.

[B]

Yeah. Wow. What a time to be alive.

[A]

Yeah. What a time to be alive.

[B]

Well.

[A]

Well, we'll get into the stories, but other than that, like, what's new with you? How are the good guys? How's Romeo?

[B]

Good guys are great. Romeo's with my parents. Miss him dearly while we're down here. He just got a fresh ass haircut. And everybody.

[A]

He's looking fresh to death.

[B]

Everybody's talking about it. Yeah. My dad, FaceTime me. Look at Romeo. My sister FaceTime me. My mom FaceTime me. All of them look at Romeo. I'm like, I saw Romeo.

[A]

Do you miss him?

[B]

I do. I do. He's a really good, sweet boy. I love Mr. Rome. I really do. And my Knicks. We can talk about my Knicks. My Knicks.

[A]

When do they play again?

[B]

So the Knicks play Wednesday.

[A]

Are you going?

[B]

I have secured tickets. So the first two games are in Oklahoma City or in San Antonio. I have.

[A]

We still don't know.

[B]

We still don't know. They. It's game seven.

[A]

Oh, my God, they made it.

[B]

By the way. It's so amazing. The Knicks keep sweeping these teams, and these teams are just kicking the shit out of each other. So the Knicks get to rest. 10 days, 8 days, something like that. I have secured tickets to the Oklahoma City Thunder game, should they win. I have booked a flight to Oklahoma City. Should they.

[A]

So are we rooting for Oklahoma City at this point?

[B]

I think so, but. But Because I want to.

[A]

There's more direct flights to San Antonio.

[B]

There's no direct flights from Florida to San Antonio. Oh, there would be a direct flight

[A]

from New York, but I'm the San Antonio.

[B]

And what about all indirect?

[A]

What about to Oklahoma City?

[B]

All indirect.

[A]

So there's no direct flight.

[B]

And anywhere.

[A]

Well, knowing you, you'll find a ride on a plane.

[B]

No, I'm in. I'm in. Indirect flights. I book. I book.

[A]

But I'm sure. I'm sure something will materialize.

[B]

It's possible. Something.

[A]

You're sitting out. Private airport.

[B]

Something could materialize. I should do that.

[A]

You should. Oh, I'm sure, like, everywhere.

[B]

Mr. Thompson, over here. See, I think we're rooting for the Thunder. The Knicks.

[A]

Thunder. Feel the Thunder.

[B]

Do you know that the Knicks are, like, the best team in playoff history?

[A]

No.

[B]

We've won 11 straight games. We've swept the last two series, 4, 040.

[A]

So they're actually, like, the overdog in this situation.

[B]

They're the best team in the NBA, whether people give them their credit.

[A]

So they're. They're the overdog, the ones to beat.

[B]

Like, they really are. Like, technically, the Thunder and the spurs were both better. Their records were better in the regular season. The Spurs. The Knicks. The Knicks are the best team. They're beating teams by 22 points a game on average. We're kicking the shit out of people, and I don't really even know how to deal with it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, you grew up sort of a Knicks fan, you at least were aware the Knicks were awful.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Forever. Forever. My entire life they've been awful. Except for, like, a handful of seasons where they were not, like, not awful. Not awful.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And now they're amazing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Amazing.

[A]

How do you feel about Kylie and Timothy?

[B]

I love them. I love them. And I fucking hate Spike Lee. I fucking hate him. I used to love him. And then he showed up. Do you know this story? He showed up to the NBA All Star Game, sat front row, put on a Palestinian Pin Danny. The Aviha, I think, is his last name. It was his first All Star Game. He's from Israel, and it was just. It was literally in direct protest of Israeli player. Of an Israeli player in the NBA All Star Game. The NBA All Star Game. What are you doing with this pin?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So people may have forgotten that I haven't.

[A]

No, I don't forget.

[B]

And Mr. Chalamet is my new Spike Lee. He shows up. They're so happy to be there. Kylie's just slinging shots. She's just, like, drunk at all these games, having such a great time. And Ben Stiller, he's. I mean, he all, like. They showed comparative pictures. He was at the last time we were in the Finals, he was there courtside. This is a lifelong Knicks fan.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Who really cares?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

See, I love. I love Timothy and Kylie.

[A]

Is there, like, a group chat?

[B]

Brunson boys?

[A]

No, not with your. Like, with your celebrity Knicks fans. Friends. You need to start one. No, like, you.

[B]

I'm og. Timothy are my boys. I don't know Timmy. I don't know him. He should know me. I don't know Timmy.

[A]

I. I feel like you can know each other.

[B]

We should.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

He's just, like, probably 30. Is he 30?

[A]

Our age.

[B]

He's our age.

[A]

He's probably our age.

[B]

Our age. From Manhattan. I'm surprised Josh doesn't know him. I feel like they, like, have parallel lives.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, performing art school in the city. Josh is, like, a little bit older than Timothy, but there's no reason we don't know him.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What a great actor. Fun fact, the only movie I've seen him in is Bob Dylan.

[A]

The only movie I've seen him in is Interstellar.

[B]

Apparently, Dune is sick.

[A]

Not for me.

[B]

I know.

[A]

Do you see Interstellar?

[B]

No. What's it about?

[A]

Space.

[B]

Cool.

[A]

What is Timothy's favorite movie ever?

[B]

He good.

[A]

So, yeah. He plays Matthew McConaughey's son, so he's not, like, the main character. It's one of his earlier works, and it's crazy that it's his favorite movie ever. He, like, Kylie rented out IMAX to take him to go see it. He's seen it, like, 100 times, and he's in it. Like, it's just.

[B]

It's kind of weird.

[A]

No, but it's like. I think he's just, like, honored to be in this great movie.

[B]

That makes sense because the movie's like,

[A]

he's a supporting character in it. Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Got it. Okay.

[A]

So imagine, like, you wound up, like, being In a movie. And it wound up to be like, the best movie that you love so much.

[B]

Yeah. Wow. Okay. All right. Yeah, I'm going to put Interstellar. It's going to be at the.

[A]

Have you seen Italian Job?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I keep telling Claudia, Claudia has to watch it. She would love it.

[B]

Of course she would. She loves, like, Kingsman. Yes, yes.

[A]

Kings. She loves Kingsman.

[B]

So good. Yeah.

[A]

I keep telling her to watch Italian.

[B]

She also hasn't seen any of the Ocean's movies, Ocean's Eleven. Have you?

[A]

I have.

[B]

Okay. But that's like Italian Drop. Very similar.

[A]

Yeah, it is.

[B]

Except with George Clooney.

[A]

It is. It is.

[B]

What do you mean?

[A]

Like, it is. Sure. She's actually seen. Have you seen Female led Woman.

[B]

Have you seen the Dark Knight Rises?

[A]

I think I did that trilogy.

[B]

The way that I've begged that woman, like the way that I have to fucking beg her to watch good TV while I'm over here watching the Summer House reunion.

[A]

I understand why she doesn't want to watch Batman.

[B]

Because I recommended it. No, if you recommended it, she'd watch it.

[A]

I wouldn't recommend it.

[B]

I think you should.

[A]

I don't think so.

[B]

That way she watches.

[A]

I don't like it.

[B]

No.

[A]

Like, I saw it. It didn't, like, resonate with me, literally.

[B]

Heath Ledger died for that movie.

[A]

And that's really sad.

[B]

It was the great. It's so unbelievably amazing. I'm obsessed.

[A]

I guess it missed me, you know?

[B]

I understand. I understand.

[A]

But we keep, like, you know, mentioning a couple of the key topics of today's episode. So I think we should get into the stories.

[B]

Yes, we should.

[A]

You know, so we can, like, continue to weave in and out.

[B]

We're gonna talk Summer House, right?

[A]

We're gonna talk Summer House.

[B]

That shit is nuts.

[A]

Without further.

[B]

Have you guys spoken Summer House yet? Yeah, since the reunion.

[A]

Yeah. But, like, there's a little bit more info that's come out.

[B]

There's new stuff.

[A]

There's some new stuff. And we'll talk about your thoughts on the situation.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. It's pretty wild.

[A]

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[B]

Oh, wow.

[A]

Charlie's brother, Amazing, is on Love island, and his name, Charlie, is Zach.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

So we have a running joke here at the Toast about this podcast spinoff that I want to do. Claudia is doing it with me, but, like, she's not as passionate about it as I am.

[B]

For sure. Sure.

[A]

And it's called Namesake, and we only interview people who have, like, the same names as our children or members. We've expanded to all members of our family so we could have on more guests.

[B]

Got it. So it's an eight episode.

[A]

No, no. You'd be surprised.

[B]

And it's like, oh, oh, oh, I understand.

[A]

Yeah. So, like, if you. If you have.

[B]

You can only interview Zachs.

[A]

We can. No, if you have the same name as someone in our family, you can come on Namesake. But if you don't like Kylie, like, can't come on Namesake.

[B]

That's kind of cool.

[A]

It is kind of cool. Like, if we wanted to do a summer house interview with someone, like, it would have to be Levi.

[B]

That is so funny.

[A]

Isn't that so funny? And it's exclusive and, like, it's just, like, fresh, you know? It's like, we don't get to choose who we talk to. It's fresh in the summer house cast.

[B]

It's fresh.

[A]

It's so fresh. So, like, anytime we're talking. Charlie Puth was actually, like, the originator. You should have him on Good guys. He's so gg.

[B]

He is so gg. We should get him. And he's cool.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Big Charlie guy.

[A]

Well, so Charlie Puth would come on Namesake. Of course, if we're doing a Love

[B]

island recently, King Charles could come on Namesake.

[A]

Yes, yes. Michaela Naguegerro, the influencer.

[B]

Ah, yes. Yes.

[A]

It's just, like, it's fun and fresh.

[B]

It could. And so many Zachs.

[A]

So many Zachs. So many bends.

[B]

Are there so many bends?

[A]

Well, not Ben Platt.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We wouldn't be having Ben Platt.

[B]

No. It's unfortunate.

[A]

We could have.

[B]

I kind of went to summer camp with him. It's unfortunate.

[A]

Oh, you did? Do you know that I don't know.

[B]

Went to Israel together. Yeah.

[A]

Were you friends?

[B]

No. No. And it's funny. It's actually not fun.

[A]

He went to Israel. Wow. Don't tell his friends.

[B]

He went to Israel.

[A]

Was he happy?

[B]

Yeah, he had a great summer. He went like. He had a great, great summer.

[A]

He.

[B]

We saw him at. Or maybe we watched his stand up

[A]

at Radio City or something, his concert.

[B]

And he tells a story about a kid named Ben outing him as gay on that trip. We were not friends. It wasn't me. And I didn't know.

[A]

Was there another Ben there?

[B]

I know another Ben. I know another Ben that was on the other Ben. There was third Ben, and it was probably that Ben.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I know another Ben.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Yeah. So that Ben. That was not me.

[A]

That's really crazy.

[B]

That was not me. So anyways, yeah, he went to Israel.

[A]

He went to Israel and loved it. And he secretly loves Israel and supports it, probably. For sure.

[B]

I mean, his brother.

[A]

He's trying to be cool.

[B]

You know his brother.

[A]

Of course I know his brother.

[B]

Who's fucking obsessed with Israel.

[A]

Of course I know his brother. Claudia. And I, like, can't comprehend how those two are brothers and how they, like, ever get together as a family, which they do.

[B]

Yeah. By the way, it's. One is beholden. If we want to get into this

[A]

conversation, I would love to talk about the Platt family dynamics.

[B]

One is beholden to Hollywood and Hollywood standards and thinks that.

[A]

But he's not. Even because his dad is Mark Platt.

[B]

It doesn't. There's. There's a difference. Like, Josh is so brave, in my opinion, for his constant. And it's. It's also just. It's what you should do. But his constant, unwavering support for Israel when everybody else in Hollywood seems to be getting a memo that if you want big work, if you want big opportunities and projects, you need to be on the other side of this issue. And so it doesn't matter who his dad is. It doesn't matter who his brother is. I think that he has chosen his career over something that at one point was very important to him or his circle has become people that are feeding him different things that you don't.

[A]

Because what you think, like, he goes home and he, like, looks at pictures from his Israel trip and, like, I don't know that he loves Israel.

[B]

I don't know. I just. I just know that he.

[A]

But he has to do this. He.

[B]

He. He grew up a staunch Zionist.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's a fact.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like in a Zionist community. Zionist sleepaway Camp.

[A]

Yeah. Parents, brother, his whole family.

[B]

I'm saying, like, I went to an adjacent Ramah camp. Ramah is literally the most Zionist place in the world.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, it is.

[A]

No, of course. I think a lot of people who are like, you know, and by the way, amazing, their people, they grew up like Zionists and they're like, I grew up like this. And it's the worst.

[B]

Yeah. Like, maybe your new circle's the worst. How about you make some better friends?

[A]

Maybe your new circle's the worst.

[B]

How about you make some better friends? Some like minded friends.

[A]

Yeah. Who will sell you down the river.

[B]

Totally.

[A]

To the sea.

[B]

That's that. Wow. Oh, my buddy's gonna hate this episode.

[A]

No, she loves talking trash about Ben Pot. It's our favorite thing.

[B]

I loved him too.

[A]

Like, I know.

[B]

By the way. And Claudia loved him.

[A]

I know. Well, we always talk about how much we actually hate him, but then it's like, but he's so talented.

[B]

Oh, we love him.

[A]

You can't deny his talent. It's frustrating.

[B]

No. And, like, I think we saw dear Evan Hansen, like, five times. Claudia was obsessed with that show, that soundtrack, him. And by the way, so was I. Yeah. On the outside, always looking in. Will I ever be more than I've always been?

[A]

Cause I'm tap, tap, tapping on the

[B]

glass Waving through window.

[A]

Can anybody see?

[B]

Is anybody waving back at me? Oh, Is anybody waving?

[A]

Waving, waving.

[B]

Oh, oh. Waving from Gaza into Israel. That's. That's where they're waving. Okay, first story. What do we got?

[A]

So I had to just let you know about Namesake, because it's critical.

[B]

I love it.

[A]

Okay. And I think it's a great idea. And, like, one day when my time frees up, it's gonna be my next Passion launch.

[B]

You got it? I'll support it. I'll come on.

[A]

So. And you know Charlie. We love Charlie from Love island season seven.

[B]

Oh, that's right. That's.

[A]

We love Charlie. He would come on Namesake, but now his brother named Zach is on Love island this year, who could also come on Namesake, who can also come on Namesake.

[B]

Understood. So Love Island, a bunch of other

[A]

people who can't come on Namesake, except for Bryce. There's a Bryce.

[B]

There is?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, my God, that's so funny.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Oh, so nicknames can also come up.

[A]

Like, yeah, we can make it work if we need to, you know? And also, we can.

[B]

So if we find somebody named Streis, he can come on. Oh, can Barbra Streisand come on?

[A]

Barbra Streisand? Could come on. She could. There's someone on this season named Sincere, but he couldn't come on, unfortunately.

[B]

His name is Sincere.

[A]

His name is Sincere. But it's like, we could have Jesse. We could have Jesse Solomon on.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

Because we have, like, an aunt named Jess. Like, we could if we really.

[B]

Oh, oh, oh.

[A]

If we really want, you know, but also, let's start.

[B]

You really want to stretch. You can go in the family tree namesake doesn't make sense anymore.

[A]

Let's start with the nuclear, you know, and then if it gets so big and we need more guests, like, we open it up to, like, you start with immediate cousins.

[B]

You start with immediate.

[A]

We start with immediate. Exactly. I was going to ask you something.

[B]

We started watching Love island while you think about that. The only season I ever watched was this past season while Claude was breastfeeding. And that was our breastfeeding show.

[A]

Right.

[B]

We would watch it at three in the morning, five in the morning, like 30 minutes, like, as she would feed. And I got really into it. Yeah, I thought it was. I thought it was great tv. And apparently it, like, was not even, like a good season by comparison.

[A]

No. You and Claudia definitely, like, had a really positive experience with the show. And we're in like, a very, like, warm and loving time in your lives.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And so you'll always have love for it, you know, but objectively, it was not a great season. Was, like, very frustrating. And for those of us who had to watch it as an obligation, it was not always fun. But I'm looking forward to a new season, hoping that this is a good one. There's also a bronze medal winning Paralympic athlete who is part of the cast, which.

[B]

The Paralympics are so cool. I don't know if you ever watch it, but, like, not only is it so impressive, it takes so much dedication and they are so unbelievable at their sport.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

That's all.

[A]

No, it's amazing. So we'll be seeing Beatriz on this season and it premieres on June 2nd.

[B]

Amazing.

[A]

So very soon.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Any minute now.

[B]

All right. I will be tuning in. I will be tuning in. That's Sunday night. Oh, oh, no. Tuesday.

[A]

What I wanted to ask you is. Word on the street is that you've struck up a friendship with Jesse Solomon.

[B]

No, we haven't. Oh, I. I'm. I'm open. He seems like. He seems like a great guy.

[A]

He seems like he's struggling and that he needs, like, by the way, I'm open.

[B]

Jesse, you want to be friends? I'm. I'm.

[A]

Oh, I thought you guys were happy friends.

[B]

No, we're not friends.

[A]

I could see you guys.

[B]

We follow each other on. On Instagram.

[A]

I could see you being friends.

[B]

Yeah. He reminds me of, like, my current friends.

[A]

Ben Safer says we are not friends.

[B]

No, no, we're. I. I would. I would love to be his friend.

[A]

Yeah, I'm open for friendship. He needs, like, good people around him right now. Don't you feel like he's struggling?

[B]

Yeah. And by the way, I would as with Claudia, we would make amazing duets on these songs.

[A]

Jackie. Oh, yeah.

[B]

Just saying. It could be like a Von Trapp family. Me, Claudia and Jesse. What do you think?

[A]

What about me?

[B]

You want in? Yeah.

[A]

So I'll be invited?

[B]

Yeah. Well, you're near invited. You could be there. You could be there. But. Yeah, no, Jesse and I are. We've never met.

[A]

Yeah. But I feel like you need to go to dinner.

[B]

Okay. Jesse, let me know. I think that the people around him. Listen to the toast.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Let me know if you'd like to go to dinner.

[A]

He's been like. Or he's been circling the orbit recently, and I feel like he needs to be brought into the fold.

[B]

It feels like.

[A]

So he's breaking my heart not to jump. He's a mother, you know, I see him like a son.

[B]

I understand. I see him, like, as a son, too.

[A]

Do you?

[B]

No, I see him as maybe a friend. I don't see him as a son. But not to jump to Summer House, but I. Oh, yeah.

[A]

Well, our next story, Summerhouse. So jump away.

[B]

I just. I hate reality TV for the people involved when they don't know what they're getting themselves into. I have to assume that Kyle and Amanda went into it eyes wide open, or I hope that they did. But the amount of. The amount of divorces that come out of reality tv, it just makes you hate your spouse. Like Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. They were all married and they are all divorced. All of them. And that's not a coincidence. Like, you can say, oh, it's 50% divorce rate. Like, no. Like, you end up doing things for fame that don't align with family values. And it's just. It's so sad to me, like, watching. And by the way, I. I have many a reason to not like Kyle Cook. Many a reason, right?

[A]

Oh, right.

[B]

Many a reason. Doesn't mean that I don't feel bad for him and her, but I do know personally that he's a bad guy.

[A]

Interesting. So more than we know.

[B]

No, he was incred. He was like he was super shady towards me.

[A]

Yeah. That was a really bad.

[B]

And I'm a really nice guy. Like.

[A]

No, it's so true. And I feel like at the time, I mean, of course the toasters rode for us, but, like, I feel like on the show and even at the reunion then they really, like, dug into, like, the whole, like, Craig thing and how it's all shady and, like, when you. When it really bothered me watching the ring and I really didn't like how they, like, talked about the whole interaction. Because when you think about it, it's like Craig, who is his girlfriend's girlfriend's friend, is girlfriend's girlfriend's boyfriend. Is Kyle.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like this. And. And he can't do a partnership with, like, a different brand. Like, that's really crazy without it being, like, shady. And he's a liar.

[B]

And Craig is so nice. Yeah. Craig literally flew in to my son's bris.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

He's the nicest guy ever. Like, I've never had a bad interaction with him. He's so nice. And I can speak for myself knowing that I, too, am the opposite of shady. I'm an open book. I am a. I'll do things for you knowing that they will come back around eventually. So this idea, this narrative that he spun that we were out to get him, that we stole information, that, by the way, like, the partnership with Craig, like, it was a great one. It's not even, like, the core of spritz society. Like, spritz society is this.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Spritz society is not skinny spritz. Skinny spritz. Like, it's. It's just. It's so. So that, like, I'm. I'm positive that Kyle is not a good guy.

[A]

I'm positive. Yeah. No, I actually, like, was starting to forget.

[B]

I also, in all of this now see that maybe Amanda's not great either. But I'm also not gonna victim blame. Like, I don't know if people have really spoken. I think that. I think that Amanda is the victim of both west and Kyle.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[B]

I think that wet, really soft. I think that west seems to just. And I know guys like this. He seems to love bomb people. And girls have a difficult time sometimes understanding that he's love bombing. But he doesn't want anything to do with you formally. I know guys like that in my life, and I look at them with disgust because time after time, if the girl is leaving crying, and you pretend that you don't know what you did, it means that you need to change the way that you interact with people. So I think that he love bombed her at a time where she was very unhappy in a marriage. And I don't justify her actions. The statement, my God, get better pr, like what are you doing? Like that was crazy. But to all of a sudden say that it's her. When we've watched Kyle be just like a bad dude for a really long time. A guy that just doesn't want to fucking grow up. A 44 year old DJ, like a. A bad beverage entrepreneur, like bad. Bad for business.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like again with my interaction and knowing that west has done this to many a girl. I don't know how you just blame Amanda.

[A]

No, you don't just. I don't just blame her. But it's not even that she embarked on another relationship with someone who like was love bombing her. And it's like that she would do that to her friend like, because she did have. Like Sierra was also there for her and every moment that west was giving her attention, trying to be there for her, like, so was Sierra. So.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That you throw away friendship like that because like, I don't know.

[B]

I agree with you on that for sure.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That that dynamic makes Amanda guilty. But in the eyes of Kyle and in the eyes of west, if it

[A]

had been Jesse Solomon said, yeah. If it had been like someone else in the house who's friends with Kyle and that person was there for her, like, yeah, it would not be this conversation.

[B]

You're right.

[A]

It's the betrayal of the friendship when like Amanda has made her like brand and her whole place on the show about like girls, girl, you know, bed bugs were together. Fuck men, you know.

[B]

Totally.

[A]

And it's like it took you two seconds.

[B]

Yeah, totally.

[A]

You could. And also she was so the hero of this story up until Wes Mandel that it's like you could have dated anyone on the planet. Anyone except for one person.

[B]

So it makes you think that I don't know that they're in love. Yeah. No. I don't know what his game is. I don't know how he does this, but I know guys that do this and it's almost like they have a spell on girls and they love bomb the shit out of them and then they leave them out to dry and it's a really terrible quality in a guy. There are only two, I guess maybe three cast members that I watch in that reunion. I'm like, oh, you are really, really, like, you seem like a really good person. I guess four.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

K.J. for sure. Jesse Solomon for sure.

[A]

Even though what he did to Lexi.

[B]

What who did to Lexi.

[A]

And Lexi.

[B]

Yeah, for sure. Lexi was on for the wrong reasons. Jesse. For sure. Okay.

[A]

No, they're all on for the right reasons.

[B]

I love Carl. I love Carl. And his now ex wife. I love her too. I love her too. They're hilarious. They've had like a real.

[A]

I feel like you should say, like, not that there are four good people on the cast, but like four people you. You like four honest people. Honest.

[B]

Oh, wait, no, by the way, go through the cast because I'm also thinking I'm forgetting people. Yeah. She seems. She's great. Sure.

[A]

Levi.

[B]

Levi. There's a Levi. Sure, Levi. Okay.

[A]

Levi.

[B]

Did I watch this season the girl

[A]

who's friends with Bailey?

[B]

Yeah. Levi's cool. Levi's Monet. Is that her name? Monet with an M?

[A]

Mia.

[B]

Mia.

[A]

Yeah. Love.

[B]

Love.

[A]

By the way. She should be at the top.

[B]

And Ciara. Sorry. She's also great.

[A]

So, like, what?

[B]

Okay. Okay. There's actually like three people that I don't like.

[A]

Okay. Wes, Kyle, Mando.

[B]

I don't like West. I don't like Kyle.

[A]

Amanda. You like Amanda?

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

He likes Amanda.

[B]

I just feel. I just feel weird about it all.

[A]

I feel weird about it.

[B]

She was tormented by Kyle. She was tormented for the duration of their marriage.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It would seem from afar.

[A]

Yeah. Though now that we're getting to know a bit more of what she's capable in her personality, I would say it was a mutual torment. Yeah.

[B]

But just like watching him constantly get drunk and lash out at people, like, that's bad.

[A]

But like, if you're willing to do

[B]

that in front of a camera, imagine what you're willing to do not in front of a camera.

[A]

I don't. I know people say that. Actually think, like, he's this. I. I don't think it gets worse. Like, I think that's him, you know,

[B]

like, you like Kyle.

[A]

No.

[B]

You might. I. I sense. I sense.

[A]

I don't. I don't. I definitely don't. I could never even be friends with a person like that, let alone be in a relationship with them. Like, it's my least favorite kind of person.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like drunk, annoying, won't grow up, immature. Like sill. Everything about it, I hate.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But he never was not that person for even one minute. That when she. From the moment she entered the relationship to when she said yes to a proposal to when she got married to him, like, she was always marrying the same person. So, like, yes. On year 10, he's the same person that he was at year one. I guess it's frustrating when people, like, don't grow. But what made you ever think that he was going to.

[B]

Yeah. I want to say one more thing on the Kyle drama. Even though, like, I'm making this drama about myself, but I just.

[A]

No, I think people want to hear your.

[B]

But I. But I feel like this is.

[A]

Do you guys talk about stuff like this on the jeege?

[B]

No, never.

[A]

Oh, okay. So, yeah, people want to hear from you.

[B]

No, we talk about complete and utter nonsense. We just, like, laugh. And we rarely talk about anything serious, which is really fun. I had texted Kyle and it went unread. I had texted unread. Yeah, it had. It had left unanswered.

[A]

Okay, that's very different.

[B]

Yeah, unanswered. I had texted Kyle before any of this came out. This was after our dinner. Me, him, and one of my partners, Jake, went to a dinner. You know the story, right?

[A]

A little bit, it sounds. But, like, not really.

[B]

Okay, whatever. We went to dinner, the three of us, and that's like the dinner where he said that we stole his trade secrets. We both opened up about how hard. Beverages. All of the trials and tribulations of trying to grow a small business. We then split the bill. He claimed that he paid for dinner and that we. Or, sorry, that we paid for. I forget what that part was. It's not important. Not important. Okay. Not important. We left that dinner. I was like, oh, I really like Kyle. I had first met him at a beverage conference. I thought he was a really nice guy, hard working, whatever. And so I had texted him. I was like, you know, why don't we get the toasters, the spritzers, the summer house, and lover boy fans together and throw some parties. Lover boy and spritz society side by side. Because I think they're completely different brands with different adjacent audiences. Let's do it. Never responded, which is so.

[A]

So that was what your text said.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Working together.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Not at all. Trying the opposite.

[A]

Harmony.

[B]

Harmony. And he went on that show, like, shat on Craig. Shat on me. Said that I was a shady business person stealing his ideas.

[A]

You wish.

[B]

Like, you totally Stealing.

[A]

What?

[B]

What did I steal?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's crazy.

[A]

That's crazy.

[B]

Yeah, I just. Just needed to share that.

[A]

Well, I'm glad we don't have to do those parties.

[B]

Totally. By the way, those would have been for him. Knowing what I know now. Those would have been for him.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Bringing our audience to Loverboy. You wish.

[A]

No. And when I Said it's like they try to make spritz out to be like seedy, whatever. Like, we're like a family owned brand. Like a family, like friendly brand. Like, we're just all about like love. Like, meanwhile. That's the most toxic negative brand I've ever heard of. Who destroyed his relationship, his personal finances, his friendships, Hannah Burner, Craig paid everyone. You're this brand that's just like this toxic entity when we're over here, like, hey, come join us.

[B]

The more I was going to say, it's literally the polar opposite. It's. He's. How can I hold on to as much equity as possible until I hit zero and be the king of my nothing? And we are literally not optimizing for dilution ever. You want to come and be a part of what we're building? We are trying to build together.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, we have, we have like 130 investors.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Literally, if you want to invest.

[A]

No, like with friends. We work with like everyone. It's just like a lovely positive place where we like bring in people and we want everyone to be lifted up. Whereas, like lover boy has been nothing but be like this toxic force in the house. And so how you can paint us as the brand that's like shady and lies and negative. No, no, we're having a ball.

[B]

No, it comes from a fucking liar. Yeah, it comes from a liar. Which is going full circle. Why it's very, very hard for me to be team Kyle. Screw Amanda. Like. No. Amanda had to deal with that for so long. And Wes is a love bomber.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And so I just think that she, she made a really bad choice, but

[A]

she continues to make the choice.

[B]

Yeah. Because she's been bombed. We'll see if, like, I think that a love bomber, I guess. Do they eventually settle down with someone? It doesn't feel like it's going to be her, unfortunately.

[A]

I feel like it has to be otherwise. Like, you know, just if he has any sort of like personal responsibility, like, because if he leaves her and she has nothing and she has like mental health issues, like, it's just a disaster. So I think if he's any shred of like a human being, that he will stay by her side. I think he's sort of like wound webbed this. Spun this web that he can't get out of.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't think he's having fun though.

[B]

Yeah. Love Love bombers. Gonna bomb.

[A]

Wow. You love the term love bombing.

[B]

It's a. It's. It's the accurate term.

[A]

Interesting. Okay, well, thank you for your take. Oh, well, the summer house news for today was that Summerhouse stars KJ and Dara have apparently broken up after a couple things on social media have a surface. They have unfollowed each other. Why? Do you know who I'm talking?

[B]

I don't know who she is.

[A]

So she was the girl who, like, came on a couple. She stayed up by the house a little bit. I think she was, like, meant to be a cast member.

[B]

I don't know who that is.

[A]

She started dating kj. She was like, on the season. She'll probably be on the reunion at some point. I don't know when they broke up if at the reunion they were together or not, but they started dating, like, this summer.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You must have missed that.

[B]

Totally missed it. All I know is I'm a big fan of his. I think he's super cool and certainly wish him well in his mental health journey.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But he seems like a great guy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And really nice. Like, he just like. I like. I like a guy that goes on a show looking to make friends.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Not a guy going on a show that's looking to be like, a hard. Oh. And have people come to them.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

I just realized the opposite.

[A]

We could have been on Namesake. Unfortunately, you can. Australian Ben.

[B]

Yeah, he seems. He seems like a bad guy.

[A]

He seems like the worst. And Bailey, like, really clocked him. I didn't even notice all those things.

[B]

Yeah, she. She clocked him and she.

[A]

She sort of end.

[B]

She seemed right for all of that.

[A]

Yeah, no, she sort of ended him like, I'm done.

[B]

Yeah, he seems. He seems like, a little. A little mean to. To women.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Which is a really bad. You don't want them saying all season.

[A]

He was, like, boring, like, brought nothing really. Like, I. I was just, like, not really interested in him, but, like, nothing bad. And then it's like. And now it sounds like you're the worst. Well, now what? We don't want anything to do with you because, like, boring's not a crime. But, like, there's nothing redeeming. You know, There was nothing like, oh, well, he had a great season. Okay. So he can be mean.

[B]

You know, it was a little weird. I like, why was Amanda skinny dipping with him?

[A]

Yeah, well, they were like. They were. Kyle was there too.

[B]

Oh, he was?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Oh, so do they. Do you think that they have, like, a freaky deaky, like.

[A]

No. I feel like they were just like, after hours and wedding in Europe and it's like, let's go in the ocean. So, you know, I think it was just spur of the moment.

[B]

Okay, that makes sense.

[A]

I don't think it was freaky deaky. I think they wish, like, they things were a little more interesting.

[B]

I understand.

[A]

You know, I think it was just like Yolito.

[B]

Honestly, Yolito.

[A]

It was giving.

[B]

It was giving. Yolito. Yes, Yolito. Wow. Okay. Yeah, well, Yolito.

[A]

So KJ and Dara have split up. I'd like to hear more.

[B]

Me too.

[A]

You know, I want to know what happened, especially because Levi was, like, alluding to the fact that, like, she thinks, like, Dara is nefarious.

[B]

I'd love to know more and I'd love to learn about who this woman is.

[A]

Okay. I actually don't think you would, but okay.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

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Tristan Thompson went on Khloe Kardashian's podcast and said that he got a vasectomy after Chloe's ultimatum that he cannot have any more kids unless it's coming from Chloe's embryos.

[B]

Wow. Okay.

[A]

So Tristan went on Chloe in Wonderland. Apparently it's a great episode and he comes off pretty favorably. It's just like a nice guy who's, like, trying his best and good dad.

[B]

Isn't he a nice guy?

[A]

I think so, but he's a fucking idiot.

[B]

Yeah, but so what happened?

[A]

He cheated on her multiple times. Once when she was like 10 months pregnant. I think she was like nine plus. And it literally put her into labor. The stress of it, it like was such a big story. And he cheated on her. Then he smooched at Jordan woods, the best friend of his girlfriend's little sister. That's crazy.

[B]

Yeah, I forgot about that. That's bad. And then also bad on Jordan woods, of course.

[A]

Of course. But him too, but he's older than me.

[B]

But we've forgiven her and now she's a Nick Swe. Swag.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

So you love Big time next wag.

[A]

So you love her. Maybe she's the lucky charm.

[B]

Love could be.

[A]

And Then when Chloe was trying to have a second child with him via surrogate, and during. I don't know when the surrogate process had started and when they wanted it to start or whatever, but it turned out it came to light that he had fathered a child that was like, I don't know, maybe almost one years old, like, that he was hiding. He was, like, fighting this woman in court, but, like, it was his child and he was hiding it from Chloe while also trying to, like, make a baby with Chloe, like, really, really bad stuff. And I think there was, like, a lot of other cheating sprinkled like, he's a cheater, cheater, pumpkin eater.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Can't stop cheating.

[B]

Yeah, that's tough, man. That's. That's tough. Mr. Tristan. Mr. Thompson. But I can't. I can't. I can't defend.

[A]

No. So that's just what you need to know. Like, and he's third Tristan, Third Trimester Thompson, as they call him, because of him cheating on her in the third trimester. Everybody, like, he's really gotten his punishment. I feel like he's hated thoroughly.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

But he's true. And Tatum's dad, Chloe, like, keeps him around.

[B]

They always do.

[A]

But she is so forgiving. Like, it's actually.

[B]

They all are, it would seem.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

She's the most.

[B]

It's so interesting. It's such a. It. Why. Why are they so forgiving? Are they more afraid of what would happen if they weren't there? Or are they just a familial. So familiar.

[A]

I think it's just like family and

[B]

it's father of children for when it's

[A]

the father of a child. Like, I. I don't think those same rules apply for people who they like.

[B]

Tyga.

[A]

What about Tyga?

[B]

What about Tyga?

[A]

What about him? There's no child involved.

[B]

There's no child involved.

[A]

No, not over here.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

So then that he's out. So it directly has to do with if there is a grandchild. Yes, Kardashian.

[A]

But I would also say the rules also applied to Lamar, but he was a husband and he was, like, obviously suffering. But they have. They have up until a point, they really, like, have been there for him so much. Much.

[B]

I think Chloe also just must be an amazing person.

[A]

Yes, she's an amazing person.

[B]

She must just be an amazing person.

[A]

And I think most of us, including myself, like, could not relate to being that patient and forgiving.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, I forgot about that document.

[A]

But it's not Like, Pete's.

[B]

Did you watch that documentary?

[A]

No, but, like, then she's, like, pissed about. She wishes she never did it because, like, he. She's on there, like, bearing her soul, and he's on there, like, talking about her.

[B]

I was gonna say it was. It was great for her because it gave me a window into how unbelievable a person she is, how she would give her last anything for somebody who treated her like ass and to save that person. But he was. He felt like he had zero remorse and, like, made a joke at the end that he was gonna go to Vegas. That's how he closed the documentary, which is, like, literally the whorehouse that he lived in and almost died.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

In Vegas. And he made a joke that they left in the documentary as he's leaving that he's gonna go to Vegas.

[A]

He almost died. He was using again. Even when she got him into, like.

[B]

There's no crime to being a drug addict. He's a drug addict. That's not his crime, in my opinion. His crime is the just, like, cheating and whorehouse. And I would assume that the using has a direct effect on that. But, like, that's. That's not, in my opinion, what he's. He's guilty of. Like.

[A]

But, like, when Chloe has nursed him back to life from the brink of death.

[B]

Totally.

[A]

I think she even.

[B]

It's a horrible.

[A]

She got a staph infection from living in the hospital and got so sick then. So she brings him back to life, learns to talk, learns to walk, learns to write, learns to think, to speak.

[B]

I know.

[A]

Is with him in the hospital the whole time rehabilitating him. Gets him a house where she's.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And she comes into the house and he's using.

[B]

I know. It's a horrible disease. And he clearly needed more rehab. He needs to live at rehab. I don't know any of anything about that. I just know that it's a horrible disease, and they're. They're not together, and you can't be with somebody like that. But, yeah, it's a tough situation.

[A]

Well, so back to Tristan. Chloe asked him, do you want to have more kids in the future? And Tristan said, I think I signed off for two embryos. So, I mean, if I do have more. More kids, it'd be coming from you. I already have enough baby moms don't want no more. And then Chloe said, and who helped you fix that decision? That was me. Tristan may have had a little ultimatum from me, and he said, what? Getting neutered? Sometimes you gotta lay Them nuts on the table.

[B]

That's funny.

[A]

He implied that he was a little against it initially. He said, I've been a little hard headed at times. I wish I wasn't as stubborn. However, he came around to the idea, saying, sometimes you have to get forced into the the of rest. Right decision.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

So even though he's had a vasectomy, more kids aren't off the table from him. He said that he legally signed over the rights to his embryos with Chloe. You s. She said, you signed them over to me anyway, so I legally own them. He said no more kids unless it's coming from Chloe's embryos. Wow.

[B]

Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow.

[A]

That's big.

[B]

It's so. Does she not plan on meeting somebody and getting married?

[A]

Oh, she could.

[B]

No, I know. It's just like, I guess it's her right to choose.

[A]

If she wants more kids with Tristan, she doesn't have to fornicate with him. She doesn't have to get his approval.

[B]

And what if, I guess, like, we'll see what happens. What if she meets the love of her life, they get married, want to have children? Is Tristan then allowed to meet the love of his life and have children then?

[A]

Oh, I guess that I'm sure Chloe would be open to that, would be

[B]

open to that then.

[A]

But in the, like, if he really was having, like, kids with just, like, one person and not just like, everyone that he has.

[B]

Not just anybody.

[A]

Not just like, everyone.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I'm sure that that would be like, a beautiful problem to have down the road where, like, Chloe's moved on and with someone else and started. And like, really do girl.

[B]

Like, do you think that girls, like, are they trapping him? Like, they're like, oh, I'm ovulating. I'm gonna go and try. No, not even poking a hole. It's not the hole. I think about this all the time.

[A]

Yeah. Like, it's hard to get pregnant.

[B]

Yeah. Very. You have a very finite period of time, Very finite period of time to get pregnant. So unless you're just so lucky that on the single day of the month, two days of the month, you happen to be having sex with Tristan Thompson. With Tristan Thompson. Otherwise, it does kind of sound. Bless you. It does kind of seem like. And I guess I would trap an NBA player. That's like a really.

[A]

You would do it.

[B]

It's a really great way to make some quick cash.

[A]

Trap an NBA player, you think? But I feel like for sure, it doesn't always work out the way they get.

[B]

They get something, and they get something, and then they, like, have like, a really good chance of that baby becoming an NBA player, too.

[A]

So it's an investment in the future.

[B]

It's an investment in the future.

[A]

So you would get pregnant by.

[B]

In a different world, in, like, a different lifetime, I might trap an NBA player.

[A]

You would. You'd think about it.

[B]

I feel like I would have huge tits. Do you think? Do you feel that if you were a woman. If I was a woman and I was looking to trap an NBA player, I think I would have huge tits, and I would use them. Like, I would, like, keep my tits out.

[A]

You would wield them.

[B]

I would wield them. I would wield them to fornicate with an NBA player.

[A]

Okay, and. And that's how you wanted to go. That's how you would use your feminine power.

[B]

Yeah. And then I'd be a power milker, and I would first use them to trap, then I would use them to milk.

[A]

To baby Brunson.

[B]

Yeah, to baby Brunson. And that would be my power.

[A]

And then what if, like, the NBA player, like, wanted nothing to do with you and was paying, like, minimum child support? Like, great.

[B]

Then I go and meet the love of my life, and I have the love of my life's children as well, with my big kids.

[A]

This sounds like one of those, like, AI movies.

[B]

Called Me and My Big Tits.

[A]

Do you know, like, this, like, down on Attorney woman, like, gets pregnant by an NBA player, he leaves her on the side of the road.

[B]

You would watch it on TikTok.

[A]

I would watch it on video.

[B]

Episodically.

[A]

Yes, I would. I might click for part two.

[B]

Oh, that's funny.

[A]

But no, I think that this. After everything he's put her through, I think this is fair. I think it's actually very lovely that he's given her the opportunity for more children. Children. If that's what she wants.

[B]

Lovely.

[A]

And she doesn't have to wait to meet someone and, you know, they would be genetic siblings with her children. And, like, if she wants more kids, like, it's up to her.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I think that's, like, a very. Probably freeing for her to know.

[B]

It's lovely. It's. It's really nice. She's still a little bit too nice.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But this clearly is what she wanted, so if it's what she wants, I

[A]

kind of want to listen to it. The episode of Tristan and I don't

[B]

think I realized that she had. Oh, no, I did know that she

[A]

had Chloe Underland on. Dear media.

[B]

Dear media.

[A]

Yeah. Our sister.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. She's a great show.

[A]

Great show. It really is.

[B]

Yeah. I have to listen more.

[A]

Speaking of another great podcast, Scooter Braun went on the Free Press's Second Thought podcast with Susie Weiss. Did you see?

[B]

I. I saw clips. I saw clips. I haven't watched it and I should.

[A]

It's another one that I want to watch.

[B]

I saw clips because they're. I love them both.

[A]

I love them both. I love Susie. Like, I love her new podcast. I think she's having great conversations.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

And she's talking to Scooter, and I feel like Scooter hasn't done like a. I. I would say Second thought is a little bit swirly because Susie's like a little swirly. And it's pop culture because he's done like Diary of a CEO type podcast, you know, like business oriented. But, like, he's talking about the things that people want to know and the thing mostly, which is Taylor Swift, so.

[B]

Oh, I saw that clip.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, I do not know her at all.

[A]

Yeah. So what he said was, I think. I don't think he wanted to get into it too deep, but he was like, I feel like people have this idea that, like, we are, like, bitter enemy. We were bitter enemies when. When I bought the rights to her music. And he said, I don't. I actually didn't know her. I had met her like, three times. Once at a party. Our conversation was, like, totally lovely. And then. And I obviously, like, respect and admired her. You don't spend that much money on someone's catalog without, like, hoping to work with them and wanting to work with them. And so all of what happened next was really, like, a shock to him considering, like, they didn't really have a personal relationship. And I think he wanted people to know, like, there wasn't like, some bitter drama that had unfolded before.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. All that I can say is I know Scooter. Scooter is great. Scooter is a Jewish, loves basketball.

[A]

Oh, yeah. He's a famous Knicks fan.

[B]

Loves the Knicks.

[A]

He could be in your chat.

[B]

And his accomplishments are just like a laundry list. Like, such an amazing, just person in music and businessman. And I don't know, like, I don't know Taylor Swift. I think that it's just like the hard part.

[A]

Are you team Scooter?

[B]

I think that I'm team business. Like, I'm team. Like, this is the way that you can't blame him for the way that the music industry operates. If you can buy somebody's catalog, that he didn't invent that idea. Yeah, he's a bidder. Like, I don't know the entire story. Bidder with a D. Yeah. With a date. He's a bidder. Like he's able to bid on a catalog and I don't know the ins and outs of it whatsoever, but I just know that the way that the music industry works is that these things are for sale all the time.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

People sell them. I don't know the who, what, why, where they're sold and how that ends up happening. But didn't Justin Bieber just sell his music for $200 million? Yeah, justin timberlake sold his music.

[A]

And I'm sorry that Michael Jackson on the Beatles or something.

[B]

Yeah. And I'm sorry that she didn't have the ability to say yes or no in regards to her. But that's not his problem. Yeah, that's the seller's problem. Yeah, she should take issue with the seller, not the buyer. What the buyer do. They took a deal from a seller, a legitimate, real seller. So I think that all of this is just.

[A]

Yeah, he was also.

[B]

It's old news, but he was talking

[A]

about like, just masters in general and like, what they are. I think, like some people myself, I don't really like, get it, how there's like master rights and like publishers rights and like when you're a singer, you get your publishing rights rights, but like the label gets your master's rights and those are really valuable for the label. And now there's like this conversation around, like the contracts that artists sign.

[B]

Read them.

[A]

Yeah, but. And he said, like, it might start to change where, like, labels don't own masters. And he's curious, like, how that will affect the music industry because then, you know, if they're not making money from artists, they're not going to take a gamble on as many artists as they do. Like, you know, probably 10% of the artists at a label pay for 90% of all of the artists. You know what I mean? So, like, I don't know, I. It will be interesting to see how it changes, if it changes.

[B]

I mean, the music industry fundamentally changed with Tick Tock. Like, you have, like, you have so much talent, so easily on display, so many views being generated without, like, not to use a Jesse Solomon. I don't know who he's signed to. He's getting a ton of view. Listen, whether you like his music or not, he's able to generate views because that's the time that we live in. Previously, the only way that you Got somebody to listen to your song was you signed with a label who had the relationships with a radio station, the radio station put you on and then you toured. Now you don't need any of that.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

It should change.

[A]

Yeah, I think.

[B]

But again, that doesn't change like that. Read contracts.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And by the way, now what will also change? You can literally fucking throw a. And you should all be doing this. Throw a contract into chat GPT and say, tell me the nuts and bolts of this and what to look out for. You don't even have to read them.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, you can't afford a lawyer. You don't have to put your contract in chat.

[A]

If you're a small unknown artist, you're kind of powerless to negotiate a contract with. If this is like our boiler contract here at Sony.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

If you want to sign Sony, this is the contract.

[B]

And by the way, great. You. You made a decision.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You wanted Sony.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And like, so Sony should get nothing. But you wanted.

[A]

Sony is a charity.

[B]

You obviously wanted Sony because you felt that Sony would give you a leg up in your career. But then when you got the leg up in your career, Sony.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's not very nice either. Right? Yeah, like.

[A]

Yeah, no, it's a.

[B]

Don't bite the hand.

[A]

It's a give and take. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, no, another one that I want to listen to.

[B]

I would love to listen to that.

[A]

Yeah, that's probably good.

[B]

Yeah, totally.

[A]

Susie. Doing big things. What kind of. What kind of music, new music are you liking these days? Any new artists?

[B]

New music?

[A]

I know Papa Roach. I don't want to hear about it.

[B]

I was gonna say, I just listened to. Let me tell you, you. I don't know. I don't know if you know about this little station on Sirius XM called Pop2K, but I love Pop2K. Channel 7, I think is like all punk and also Pop2K. So it's like 90s and 2000s. I. I listen exclusively to 90s and 2000s music. I also listen to.

[A]

There are no Taylor. There are no new artists that you're zero. I will listen that you're liking.

[B]

Sure. Luke Combs, like mgk.

[A]

Wouldn't you love him?

[B]

If it crosses my desk, Halsey, I don't seek any of this out. Like, if it comes to me, it comes to me. It's very rare. Like, once every two years I'll get a new song that I like from a new artist.

[A]

But what's one that you liked recently?

[B]

Probably the most recent one was that Halsey MGK song.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Forget you. Forget you, too. Wanted to forget you. I like that for, like, a week. But, like, I'm literally going to a James Taylor concert with my dad. Like, that's the music that I like. I love James. He's great.

[A]

You know what song I like that's made its.

[B]

I love Joel. Billy Joel. I love John Mayer. I love Oasis. I love Blink 182. I love, like, that's. And, like, by. Because of you guys. I like Luke Combs. I like some country when I hear it, you know? What are you listening to? You have any new songs that you like? Shaboos.

[A]

I love Shaboos. No, but you know what? I'm really.

[B]

Shaboozy's cool. Actually.

[A]

I. Actually, there are a couple new artists that, like, I really, really like. Like, tell me. Like, Alex Warren. I love by the way.

[B]

I think he's great, too.

[A]

Teddy Swims.

[B]

Teddy Swims is great, too. These are both. I like both of them.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I really like Olivia Dean.

[A]

I love Olivia Dean. I love Ray, I think, like, where is my husband?

[B]

I don't know who Ray is.

[A]

Where. Do you know the song Where's My Husband?

[B]

How does it sound?

[A]

Baby, where the hell is my husband?

[B]

No, but he should come home.

[A]

Oh, my God. It's so. It's like. It's an amazing song. You should listen to it.

[B]

Where the Hell is My Husband?

[A]

Yeah. And then, you know what song I just listened to that. I'm like. Like, it's great. Like, it's. It's bubbled up to the surface for me. 12 to 12 by somber. You have to listen to the song.

[B]

What is it?

[A]

For the people I look for you. Okay.

[B]

I'm sure I'd like it. It's a little beatsy. There's some beats.

[A]

Yeah. It reminds me of the Door by Teddy Swims. Do you know the Door?

[B]

I think so.

[A]

Oh, so good. We listen all summer.

[B]

Teddy Swims is amazing.

[A]

Teddy Swims is amazing.

[B]

He's amazing. But I can't name a song long.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I should be able to.

[A]

Okay. Can you, like, make a playlist for your ride home of the door in 12 to 12?

[B]

I'll just write it down. The door and 12 to 12. Okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The door and 12.

[A]

And then Sienna Spiro. I like her, too. She's a little, like, more whiny, like. Like Amy Winehouse.

[B]

You don't have to listen with the wine.

[A]

But no, there's, like, some new music I'm feeling. As opposed to like, just David Gutta and Pitbull all day. So. Which goes so hard in the paint?

[B]

Oh, my God, you Tayo Cruz.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

When was the last time you listened to Dynamite?

[A]

No, I know. How.

[B]

When was the last time you listened to Dynamite?

[A]

Probably like in February, because I was, like, listening to all.

[B]

What about Neo?

[A]

Neo? What's the great Neo?

[B]

No, Neo is so fucking good. Yeah, I went through, like, a great Akon time.

[A]

Oh, Akon. No, that's. This is where I leave you a

[B]

con and Young Jesus.

[A]

Neo and David Guetta.

[B]

No, Neo. What was the Neo song?

[A]

Oh, Play hard. No, this album from David Guetta. You know the one. When I show you the album cover, you're gonna.

[B]

Oh, Closer.

[A]

Oh, close.

[B]

Turn the lights.

[A]

You know this album? David Guetta. I saw him Titanium.

[B]

I saw David get alive multiple times

[A]

without you by David Guetta featuring Usher.

[B]

Unbelievable. Unbelievable.

[A]

Shut it down.

[B]

By the way, David Guetta is a amazing.

[A]

David Gutt is amazing. Pitbull's amazing. I think he's going on tour. You want to go?

[B]

Yeah, but only if you'll come with me to any of the things that I want to go to or like the Gypsy Kings. This is like the most. This is heartbreaking. I literally write in the family chat. I just spent thousands of dollars on unbelievable VIP table for the Gypsy Kings this summer. Silence. What, am I gonna go alone?

[A]

No, no, I'll go to Gypsy Kings.

[B]

Great.

[A]

You want to go to Bruno Mars in the fall?

[B]

Where? Here?

[A]

Yeah, here.

[B]

Yeah, I like Bruno Mars. I don't. I don't need. Yeah, no, I like.

[A]

No, it's gonna be amazing.

[B]

Okay, okay, I'll go to Bruno Mars. You know how many times I've seen, like, Rascal flats for you? Like, not enough.

[A]

Yeah, not enough times.

[B]

Oh, it was. It was Akon and I think it was. It might have been Neo and Akon touring together.

[A]

Okay. Maybe, like, my husband will go with you.

[B]

He won't.

[A]

I think he would.

[B]

You think so?

[A]

Yeah, he likes, like, to go to stuff.

[B]

I'll ask him.

[A]

He likes to go to stuff. Especially if I'm like, like.

[B]

Oh, yeah, of course. Yeah, if you're encouraging about it.

[A]

Yeah, if I'm encouraging, which I feel like I am.

[B]

Okay. No, you're.

[A]

Within reason.

[B]

You're encouraging for sure.

[A]

Yeah, within reason. Like three small children.

[B]

Yeah, no, you're. You're encouraging. Within reason.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, you guys golfed on Sunday.

[B]

We did, we did. Lovely. It was fun.

[A]

Okay, we can end the show. Oh, I did four stories because I felt like it oh, Queenie and Weenie. Claude, you'll be really mad if we don't do it, so let's do it. It's Queenie and Weenie. Queenie of the week and Weenie of the week. I think my Queenie is so obvious. And it's Livia.

[B]

Shit.

[A]

Is that your style?

[B]

That was mine.

[A]

All right.

[B]

She's a collective Queenie.

[A]

So she's the obvious Queenie.

[B]

She's the obvious Queenie.

[A]

She's the obvious Queenie.

[B]

Obvious Queenie.

[A]

Yolito.

[B]

Yolito Mazalto of bh. Thank God.

[A]

Yeah, we love her.

[B]

And I. Who's your weenie?

[A]

I don't know. Who's yours?

[B]

My weenie is the miraculously bright creatures.

[A]

Mm. Very good.

[B]

Thank you. Remarkably Bright creatures movie.

[A]

Okay. And the people who made it and everyone who participated.

[B]

It was such a wonderful book, even though I can't ever remember the name. And I always call it Remarkably.

[A]

Yeah, Remarkably.

[B]

Okay. The movie was so fucking bad. It was such bad acting by everybody. But Sally Field Cameron was one of the worst actors I've ever seen. Like, terrible. And they just twisted the story, removed key elements to the plot. And apparently I've been told that this is the life of a reader, that they butcher books. But they fucking butchered this book.

[A]

They butchered this bad.

[B]

And they, like, took Marcellus, who is an octopus, who, like, comes in once every, like, 40 pages and just says, like, a little something. They made him the narrator of the entire movie.

[A]

Oh, that kind of works.

[B]

No, it didn't. It was like I was watching, like, David Attenborough, Planet Earth. I'm not.

[A]

Not.

[B]

It's not a nature documentary. It is a movie about a mother who lost her son, who falls in love, and the octopus is somehow involved.

[A]

She falls in love with an octopus?

[B]

She does. But that's not really what it's about.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

The octopus saves her life. It's a great book. Okay. It's a great book.

[A]

I just.

[B]

A bad movie.

[A]

I started the new redheads book, Yesteryear, which it's like.

[B]

Oh, it's called Yesteryear.

[A]

It's called Yesterday. It's going, like, viral right now already. Like, the rights have been picked up. Anne Hathaway is starring in the movie.

[B]

Oh, wow.

[A]

It's about a trad wife influence, Windsor, who, like, wakes up in 1885 and absolutely has to, like, live.

[B]

Oh, that's cool. But Freaky Friday.

[A]

But Trad Wife.

[B]

Trad Wife edition.

[A]

And, you know, I think it's meant to, like, clown on Trad wives. Like, you would never actually live like this if you had to. I just got to. I'm, like, 6%. And so I just got to the part where, like, she wakes up in a very cold bed that isn't hers.

[B]

Very cool story.

[A]

No, I'm. I'm like, I. I think I'm gonna hate it because I. It's actually just, like, about Ballerina Farm and, like, clowning on, like, the person who there talking, like, the influencer on the farm. And she sells all these products, and she has, like, seven kids, and the husband. And the husband's a descendant of, like, a rich family. Like, it's literally Ballerina Farm. So I'm like, I'm not gonna, like, enjoy something that's clowning on my girl. However, like, so far, just the bit that I read, like, I liked it. Like, I like. I like the influencer.

[B]

No, it's also like a. It. It. I love Freaky Friday. Yeah, you can miss me on Freakier, but I like Freaky.

[A]

Well, so I. I'm. I'm curious to see, like. And I've seen so many mixed reviews. I really wonder how I'm gonna feel about it. Like, because you never know what you could expect from me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And what I'm gonna like and what I'm not gonna like. You think I'm not gonna like something, and then I like it 100%. And then you think I'm gonna like something, and I don't like it 100%.

[B]

Yeah, we don't know.

[A]

Stay tuned.

[B]

Before we close the show, one last thing, which is, I don't know if you know, Jackie, but we are sold out in 50% of targets nationwide. I did hear that Skinny Spritz is crushing. And so if you went in and didn't find it, I'm sorry. Hopefully stock will arrive soon, but you sold it out, so I love it.

[A]

Skinny Spritz.

[B]

Yeah, it's right here. Skinny Classic Spritz, you know, and love meat. Skinny. At 100 calories and no sugar, it's pretty sweet.

[A]

Yeah, it is. Without being too sweet.

[B]

Without being too sweet. Well, that's our show. The millennial show that you know and love.

[A]

The greatest show on Earth. We love you so much. Have a great weekend, everyone. Love ya. Bye.