New Era of Toast: Monday, January 27th, 2025

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Toast – "New Era of Toast: Monday, January 27th, 2025"

Host: Jackie & Claudia Oshry
Release Date: January 27, 2025

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1. Introduction: Embracing a New Era

The episode kicks off with Jackie and Claudia announcing significant changes to their podcast setup, marking the beginning of a "new era of Toast."

Claudia:
"Today's a start. It's a rebirth... We are feeling ageless. We are feeling fresh. We are feeling new." [00:04]

2. Studio Renovation and Upgrades

Both hosts reveal their studio transformations, highlighting a complete refresh aimed at enhancing the podcast experience. Jackie and Claudia have moved to new studios, resulting in upgraded equipment and aesthetics reminiscent of the "palace of Versailles."

Jackie:
"We are brand new." [00:18]

Claudia:
"We really spared no expense in giving everybody the most premium experience when it comes to watching, listening, receiving the toast." [04:38]

3. Health and Comfort Enhancements

Claudia shares her personal improvements, including new ergonomic chairs designed to alleviate her coccydynia and sciatica. These changes are not just aesthetic but also serve as medical necessities.

Claudia:
"I really had high hopes. I don't think there could have been a worse chair for me to be sitting in than our previous chair when it came to my tailbone issues." [01:31]

4. Transition Challenges: From Remote to Studio Podcasting

The hosts discuss the initial awkwardness and nerves associated with moving from a remote to an in-person studio setup. This transition feels unfamiliar, akin to podcasting in someone else's house, leading to a temporary feeling of stage fright.

Claudia:
"I feel a little bit of that awkwardness today." [02:39]

Jackie:
"I have stage fright today." [02:52]

5. Pop Culture and Movie Reviews

Claudia delves into her experience watching Oscar-nominated movies, particularly criticizing "Amelia Perez" and sharing her frustrations with misleading representations.

Claudia:
"It's a terrible... almost satirically bad... the movie was a waste of my time." [12:32]

Jackie:
"I think like, we talk about it all the time still, me and Ben." [13:45]

6. Personal Anecdotes: A Run-In at the Movies

Claudia recounts a personal incident where she accidentally bumped into an elderly lady in a movie theater, leading to an awkward confrontation.

Claudia:
"I didn't do anything wrong, we just collided, like, very naturally." [19:59]

7. Commemorating Holocaust Remembrance Day

In honor of Holocaust Remembrance Day, both hosts discuss their engagement with historical fiction, specifically Jackie’s reading of "The Goddess of Warsaw." They emphasize the importance of remembering and educating about this tragic period.

Claudia:
*"Donate to the Mark Schoenwater Holocaust Education foundation..." [24:51]

Jackie:
"Historical fiction makes the reading easy... I learned a lot about that time that way." [23:16]

8. Upcoming and Ongoing Projects

The duo mentions their ongoing projects, such as vlogging the studio setup and a theme song competition. They are eagerly anticipating the launch of their new theme song and encourage listener participation.

Claudia:
"Jackie and I have chosen a winner. We are incommunicado with the winner." [25:26]

Jackie:
"It's a nice, big, exciting reveal and I'm very excited about that." [25:26]

9. Sports Segment: Super Bowl Predictions

Jackie and Claudia engage in a heated debate over their Super Bowl predictions, analyzing team performances and expressing biases toward the Chiefs and Eagles over the Bills.

Claudia:
"The Chiefs are going to win again because look at the games they played last night." [37:06]

Jackie:
"I feel like the Chiefs play like the Patriots. They are just that team." [38:01]

10. Celebrity News and Trials

The hosts discuss high-profile celebrity news, including Tommy Zizzo Jr.'s testimony in ASAP Rocky's trial and the intertwining connections within Hollywood.

Jackie:
"Tommy Zizzo Jr. testified at ASAP Rocky's trial." [44:33]

Claudia:
"It's so random and shows what a small town it can be." [44:40]

11. Fan Culture and Artist Responses

Claudia addresses fan petitions and the intense nature of fan culture, using Gracie Abrams' response to a petition against her tour opener, Dora Jar, as a case study.

Claudia:
"Anybody who would put this together is actually a danger to society." [54:56]

Jackie:
"She tackled it head-on and stood up for her girl, Dora." [56:32]

12. Podcasting Industry Insights

In discussing the podcasting landscape, Jackie and Claudia reflect on Spotify's new Podcaster Milestone Awards, noting the achievements of top podcasts like Joe Rogan and Crime Junkie.

Claudia:
"If you were watching any, because me and Ben just got obsessed with Ina..." [27:52]

Jackie:
"Six, like, they were hitting numbers that not even you would believe." [71:00]

13. New Music Releases: Bruno Mars and Sexy Red

The episode concludes with a critique of Bruno Mars' new song featuring Sexy Red, expressing discomfort with the explicit lyrics and contrasting it with his previous works.

Claudia:
"Fat, juicy and wet... it's his version of WAP." [62:34]

Jackie:
"I can't read anymore. I haven't even." [63:21]

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Notable Quotes:

• Claudia on Studio Refresh:
  "It's giving... We can keep a secret." [00:38]

• Jackie on New Aesthetic:
  "Kumsa Fresh. It's been a while since we've done like a total facelift." [03:14]

• Claudia on Movie Experience:
  "I was counting down the minutes. I really didn't like it." [10:13]

• Jackie on Podcast Evolution:
  "Evolve or die." [26:32]

• Claudia on Fan Entitlement:
  "This reflects a true mental illness." [55:07]

• Jackie on Podcast Milestones:
  "We are not on this list. I think we would have been awarded something if we were." [68:51]

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Conclusion:

In "New Era of Toast," Jackie and Claudia Oshry celebrate their podcast's transformation, sharing personal experiences and engaging in dynamic discussions covering pop culture, sports, and industry insights. The episode balances introspection on their new setup with lively debates and critiques, maintaining their signature conversational style.

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For those who haven't listened, this episode offers a comprehensive look into the hosts' evolving journey, intertwined with relevant cultural commentary and personal anecdotes, making it both informative and entertaining.

Transcript

[Jackie]

Good morning, millennials.

[Claudia]

Welcome back to the toast and happy Monday. That has truly never felt more like a Monday, because today's a start. It's a rebirth, as Ramona Singer would say. It's a renewal of sorts. We are feeling ageless. We are feeling fresh. We are feeling new. Hello, Jackie. How are you?

[Jackie]

Hi, Turdi. Welcome to the toast. I feel like this is a real welcoming. This is a new era of toast. Claudia moved to her new studio and. And due to that, we did a total studio refresh at both studios. So if you're listening as a podcast, you might want to head over to the video today for a Pargi treat, because we are brand new.

[Claudia]

Yeah. Secret project reveal. Over the weekend, Jackie and I both were hard at work doing absolutely nothing but having studios built for us. We literally look like we're in the palace of Versailles. I am so excited about this. I can't believe we had, like, such a major change undergoing and we did not say one word about it to anyone. Like, we were such secret keepers. It's giving. Like, I don't know. It's giving. We can keep a secret.

[Jackie]

We were so low key, we didn't even say secret project. Like, I feel like we really wanted people to be excited and surprised by this. So, yes, to put a bow on Friday's episode. That's why I couldn't leave my house this weekend. Because starting Friday, right after we wrap the show, people have been here around the clock, setting up my new studio, getting the lighting, everything. So I stayed home all weekend. We had a variety of play dates, people coming in and out of the house to keep it a fun weekend at home, because I couldn't leave. And now, you know, when I. Why? And I wasn't just being cagey.

[Claudia]

No. This is truly a new era of toast. This is also our first sort of dry run with all of our new equipment. So if today's episode actually makes it to air, like, God is good, God is on our side, we are going to be okay. But we have new chairs, and I'm, first of all, so excited to see how this affects my coccydynia and my sciatica. I have really high hopes. I don't think there could have been a worse chair for me to be sitting in than our previous chair when it came to my tailbone issues. And my physical therapist actually said that. So while this technically was, like, an extravagant expense, it's really a medical expense.

[Jackie]

It is. It's covered by insurance 1000% and it's covered by pet insurance, because brewery is feeling very at peace knowing that there is now space for him on. It's really a couch. Like, we have these big sofa chairs that can fit. We could share one sometime, Turtle. Ooh. If you want to get.

[Claudia]

Depending on, like, what state stage of our, like, weight fluctuations we're at. We totally could share one.

[Jackie]

We totally could. But now Bruno can be here comfortably. And he's literally been sleeping next to me, like, the entire hour that we've been getting ready for the show. And I feel like we needed to bring back the do to do spirit. The spirit of the do.

[Claudia]

B B. Bring back Bruno.

[Jackie]

Bruno.

[Claudia]

Bing Brack.

[Jackie]

Bring back Bruno.

[Claudia]

Yeah, that's what I mean. Like, that's what I've been saying. Bing Brack, you know?

[Jackie]

Do you feel, like, nervous today? I feel like this is our first show ever. Like, I have. I haven't gotten, like, nervous for work in a very long time.

[Claudia]

Not only do I feel nervous, for sure, I feel, like, a little awkward. I don't know why. This just doesn't feel familiar to me yet. So I feel like I'm podcasting in, like, in someone's house.

[Jackie]

Yeah. I feel this the way that I. What I would feel if I was on, like, someone else's show. Like, I feel like I'm really doing a podcast, not just, like, sat with my girl Turdi on FaceTime. We'll get to that level of comfortability. But I'm glad we are acknowledging, like, I have, like, stage fright today.

[Claudia]

Yeah. No, it's kind of like when you and I podcast together in person after a really long time of remote podcasting and be like, feel really weird making eye contact with one another. And, like, the vibes are just weird. I'm feeling, like, a little bit of that awkwardness today. Cause I'm just not used to my usual setup. Like, usually I have you right here, so I'm just readjusting. But I. I could not welcome this new era of toast more. I feel like the timing is perfect. I love the vibes. I think a lot of people there will be for sure, like, people making edits on social media, you know, rest in peace to the palm leaves because they were such an iconic part, an integral part of our brand for the last truly seven years now. I don't feel like it has truly reflected who we are as human beings for a really long time. Having said that, people are attached to it and. And there's validity in those feelings. So I just want to give a moment, hold space for people who might be Missing those palm leaves today.

[Jackie]

Yeah, they were so good to us. But I'm excited to now, like, look at palm leaves and like look at that design and not be like, oh, I have to sit down and do work. Like I can maybe go back to enjoying that aesthetic. And that's exciting. But I welcome a new aesthetic. It's Kumsa Fresh. It's been a while since we've done like a total facelift and we've never done it as intentionally as this, but I guess every time we move studios, the look changes. So you move was meant to change the whole thing, which we've been talking about for a while. So the timing really worked out. But I am very excited. I think these Pargi vibes like really reflect us as people because it's like very traditional and modern at the same time. And that's how I would describe us.

[Claudia]

Very swirly as well. And I can't really stress enough how like, yes, our show looks different, but what's most different and I think what people will probably appreciate the most is we've really upgraded all of our equipment. So when it comes to videos and audios, like, we really spared no expense in giving everybody the most premium experience when it comes to watching, listening, receiving the toast. So I'm looking forward to way less tech issues because our last studio was truly built by Jackie I and YouTube tutorials. Like, we made it a spot.

[Jackie]

Guitar Center.

[Claudia]

Yeah, Guitar Center. We made it as far as we could, like with our own free will and our, you know, wit and our scrappiness. And this time we outsourced. I can confidently say I had no part in building the studio and that's how I know it's going to be great.

[Jackie]

That's how it should be. We called in the big guns.

[Claudia]

Yeah. Sort of like, you know, scrappy, shitty element. Like having that sort of jankiness on top of everything we do is so sweet.

[Jackie]

Claude. We're still going to be those scrappy girls because like once they leave today, they're never coming back. And it's on us to learn how to use all of this and do everything post show that we've always done. So like, we'll still be those girls.

[Claudia]

Don't worry.

[Jackie]

We had a three day break.

[Claudia]

Yeah, we did. It was so nice.

[Jackie]

And we're coming back.

[Claudia]

Yeah. This is like the least amount of effort I've ever exerted in a project and I have loved every minute of it. I feel it. Really, truly feel like a star.

[Jackie]

Also, of course, we vlog the whole thing. So vlog is coming out on Patreon. Claudia vlogged her half, I vlogged mine, and I'm really excited to see yours too. It'll be like a dual vlog, which I love that we should do more of that.

[Claudia]

We should. And we just. There's so much newness and different because I'm also in, like, a completely different physical space. Jackie's in the same room, but we've just totally turned it upside down. And I left behind a great deal of. Of my past at that former studio. I didn't even realize, like, how much of a part the sirens played every day. I think people who don't live in New York, like, really felt like New Yorkers when listening to this podcast, like, you know, chasing ambulances and things.

[Jackie]

They also felt like they were being pulled over, which I'm happy for you guys that you hopefully will no longer feel that way.

[Claudia]

My new studio has, like, one and a half windows. It faces an alley. Like, we're not gonna be hearing anything. And while that's obviously great for, like, an audio experience, it's not great for those people who really wanted to tune into the toast and feel like they were living in New York City for, you know, feel like they were watching.

[Jackie]

An episode of Cops, literally.

[Claudia]

I'm gonna miss the excitement. I really am.

[Jackie]

Yeah. And I didn't even realize how many people were going to miss the Truckers for Tayshia. That was a chapter that I kind of forgot about. I wonder how Tayshia feels about the Truckers for Tisha. But, yeah, they were such a big part of the lore of the last studio, so we'll miss them, too.

[Claudia]

Wait. Totally separate side. Did you see the dumois update on Rachel, Kirk and Al and Matthew James, and then Rachel, Kirk and Al's comment on it?

[Jackie]

Yeah, I've kind of been through a lot with it. First I saw that Deuxmoi commented she had a blind item that, like, Matt and James were spotted together in the city. And I was like, matt and James? Yeah, James. And I was like, seriously, I'm done with these two. Like, they don't even know if they're together or not.

[Claudia]

Like, I can't leave us out of it.

[Jackie]

I can't just keep being invested in their story. And then Rachel commented, like, no, we weren't together.

[Claudia]

So she literally said, was it me implying that he's, like, with another woman?

[Jackie]

Or I just think it's implying, like, this is. Or I think this. It's implying that, like, these are lies.

[Claudia]

Yeah, no, you think there was, like, no spotting whatsoever? Oh, yeah, I guess. Like, how do you mistake Rachel Kirk and out? Nobody looks like Rachel Kirkennell. That's why she is Rachel Kirkennell.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Like, if you know Matt and James, then you know what Rachel, Kirk and I looks like.

[Claudia]

It's giving Elizabeth and James.

[Jackie]

Yeah, it is. So I don't. Like, I just. That, to me, was a demerit in the Dumois column. More so.

[Claudia]

Yeah, yeah. No, it's only a crack at her credibility.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Like, where's the accountability? You got it wrong.

[Claudia]

Yeah. Yikes. Although the last time she did supply a Rachel and Matt blind item about Japan, like, it kind of blew the whole case wide open.

[Jackie]

I don't want to hear about Japan.

[Claudia]

She got a little big for her bridges.

[Jackie]

I don't want to hear about J. Like, it confuses the Rachel Matt Continuum.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

They're time travelers because they're in Japan together. They're also in London having pizza, and they're also in America breaking up in three hours and posting on Instagram. And they're at Nima Colon. So it's a lot.

[Claudia]

I just want to say I might be hearing, like, phantom things, but is your camera still recording? I just heard, like, a beep boop.

[Jackie]

Yes. And yes.

[Claudia]

The red light. Okay. Just with this new studio, like, I have to stay on top of it. Just I heard, like, a beep boop.

[Jackie]

It wasn't my beep boop. It was a year.

[Claudia]

It wasn't mine either. No, was good.

[Jackie]

We're good.

[Claudia]

Okay. So we have such great stories today. Actually, a lot happened over the weekend, especially with the football of it all.

[Jackie]

Yesterday with the football.

[Claudia]

But I would be remiss, devastated, and heartbroken if I did not update everybody on my journey to watch all the movies that are nominated for the Oscars this year. I made so much headway this weekend, and all that remains for me is the brutalist, and that's because they refuse to put it on in some sort of streaming service. And I'm not sitting in a movie theater for three hours because while I love going to the movies, what I've realized is that I think I like the movie a lot less when I see it in theaters versus in the comfort of my own home. Like, I was thinking about this the other day. Me and Ben were recounting how many movies we've walked out of. Like, I have walked out of so many movies, and I feel like if I was watching them at home, I would have just finished them. Do you know What? I mean, interesting.

[Jackie]

No, I feel like you would have just turned it off, but because a walkout is so much more serious. You're like, I walked out versus, like, oh, I just went on my phone and let it play till the end. I feel like I actually like movies more in theaters because I don't go on my phone and I really have to be sad for them. But also, I don't go to the movies often. So when I go, I see something that I know I'm gonna like. Therefore, I like all of the movies that I see in theaters. Cause it's like I'm choosing differently.

[Claudia]

So in theaters. Ben and I on Saturday saw A Complete Unknown, which is the Bob Dylan movie Timothee Chalamet. And I now understand, of course, why it's called a complete unknown. It's still a terrible. Actually, when I was done with the movie, I didn't understand why it was called that. And then Ben was explaining it to me. And so let me say this. Ben really liked the movie. Ben happens to, you know, have very fond feelings about Bob Dylan because he grew up with a dad who loved Bob Dylan. And I could. That's so Bruce. Like, Bruce loves that type of. He loves Billy Joel. He loves, like, these old Jewish men, you know, James Taylor. Like, it's so I could see Ben. So Ben was like, I loved it. And he was like, I know you hated it. I didn't say one word during the whole movie. I was counting down the minutes. I really didn't like it. And I'm not sure if it's because, one, the movie was bad. Two, and I guess I'm just sort of, like, putting this together. Like, I don't like Bob Dylan. Like, I don't know his music. Even, like, his biggest. I knew one song from the whole movie.

[Jackie]

The answer, my friend, sir.

[Claudia]

My friend. And the whole movie is, like, about how he hates that song, you know? And so all I really know about Bob Dylan is what Timothee Chalamet portrayed to me. And so I feel like that's unfair because Timothee Chalamet made him into the most unlikable human being on the planet. And I don't know what prosthetics or anything. They made him so physically unattractive that I was looking at pictures of Bob Dylan. I'm like, oh, he was a major cutie. No, Timothee Chalamet as Bob Dylan was like, full blown uggo, really ugly. Like, I don't know what these prosthetics were because I was Shocked to see like young hot pictures of him. I'm like, oh, I can understand how he like swept the nation. He was a cutie.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

Also, Bob Dylan is like a huge Jew.

[Jackie]

Okay.

[Claudia]

You would never know from the movie. Like, there was one scene where like he got a piece of mail that said Robert Zimmerman and his girlfriend was like, is that your name? And that was literally it. So it's like, is he hiding his Jewish identity? So I'm like, oh, is he a self hating Jew? Then I went on, like, did some research. Oh, the man loves Judaism. Wrote this beautiful song, neighborhood Bully about Israel in the 80s. Like, he's been, he's been knowing about. No. So I was like, where is his identity? It was just, I feel like as somebody who knew nothing, nothing about Bob Dylan, I still know nothing. The movie taught me nothing. Everybody in the theater was like an older person who probably like knew a lot of the context. I did not. He just kind of looked like an ass.

[Jackie]

Okay, maybe he is an ass.

[Claudia]

Like, no, that's not the vibe I was getting on Google.

[Jackie]

Oh, okay. I can't add just like you. I have no point of reference for Bob Dylan. I can't add anything to this conversation.

[Claudia]

I know. And then at the end of the movie, they had like, you know, classic black and white text with like all of his accomplishments and how like much of a, like a thoughtful and also cause driven person he was. I'm like, that was not Timothy. Timothy was just a dick. Like all these things. I'm like, that does not add up with the person you just portrayed in this movie. Like, he won a Nobel Peace Prize. He like, was really like passionate about social causes. I'm like this in the movie, he was passionate about nothing except smoking cigarettes. Like, it was really just. I didn't like it. But having said that, I don't know if that's like a universal truth. Like, I think I liked it. I think a lot of the people around me were like, cackling. I. I was just not feeling it at all. Okay.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Like, I wouldn't want to watch a movie about some random guy off the street either. Like, I don't know, guy on the street, he's giving. I don't know her.

[Claudia]

Like, yeah, yeah, 100. But then that led me. I was like, making progress. I'm like, wow, I only have like two more movies.

[Jackie]

Well, no, then you told me you saw it and I'm like, claudia, you need to watch Amelia Perez because we talk about it all the time. You're watching the Oscar movies, it's the most nominated. Like, I'm sorry, you have to watch it if you want it really to be taken seriously.

[Claudia]

And there's so much discourse around it that I absolutely. I had to. And Ben didn't know what it was about, and I kind of like tricked him into watching it because he wanted to look up what it was about. And I was like, no, I really wanted him to be completely surprised.

[Jackie]

That's also the best, anyway.

[Claudia]

Yeah. And it's such like a sort of outlandish concept for a film that I thought he would really enjoy the surprise. And so let me tell you, we watched Emilia Perez and, like, by no stretch of the imagination is it a good movie. Like, I would never recommend it. It's really. It's almost satirically bad, especially the elements of the musical. And I watched the whole movie, which felt like ten movies in one. Like, it was this weird, stupid musical. It was this story of gender identity. But, like, very quickly that ends like the drug lord become like transitions in the first 20 minutes. It's a two hour movie. Like, it's actually not about that at all. It's five different movies in one. It's about the sex change, it's about her new life, it's about the organization, and then it's like a hostage movie. It is seriously the most aimless, pointless movie. Because when. And I'm telling Ben as we're watching, I'm like, no, I mean, and this is like a story that really shook Mexican culture at the time. And I'm like, I'm explaining, like, how crazy it was. And. And then I wanted to wait till I was done with the movie to, like, research what parts of the movie were real, what parts of the movie were, like, fictionalized. And I come to find out that the entire movie is fiction. Like, this is not a true story.

[Jackie]

Yeah. I don't know why you were under the impression that it was a true story. You had said stuff like that on the show. Like, I think because the tostadas were really offended by it and you were getting the idea that, like, why choose this story to tell as if it was a true story out of so many other true stories, but that was just like a. A leap that you had made.

[Claudia]

So after, like, upon finding out that the whole thing was fake, I really felt, like, almost annoyed that I wasted my time. Like, I learned nothing from this movie. And then I was reading a lot of the feedback and why it's overwhelmingly negative. Like, it's a movie that's beloved by Critics, but despised by both, like, the Mexican community and the trans community. It's like, this is our story. No, it's not. And then Mexican Mexico's like, are you guys kidding me? Like, you never make movies about our culture. And the one that you do is, like, really highlighting the worst parts of Mexican culture. That's really not emblematic of, like, Mexico. And that's like, drug cartels. It's all about, like, these missing. These people who go missing. All about violence and crime and drugs. And it's like, really? That's what you're putting out there? So everyone's mad for their own reasons. And I'm mad because I wasted two and a half hours of my time.

[Jackie]

Now, why does it have 13 nominations? Like, who wants this?

[Claudia]

I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why. Because they literally, like, created a movie to check a million boxes in the Oscar category. Like, that's why they made it a musical. Like, so it could be nominated in score. They literally were just, like, doing Rent because the movie felt seriously just like a hodgepodge of crapola. Like, I don't even know what I was watching half the time.

[Jackie]

You know what it feels like? It feels like if you ask, I, like, write me a script for a movie that will win all of the Oscars. And then they start checking off all of these buckets that the Oscars care about.

[Claudia]

And obviously the Vigino Plasti song was the highlight of the film for me. And Ben literally was like, oh, this is what you've been singing all week. I'm like, yeah, sex change operation. But there were so many songs, Jackie. And they were all just like that. They were like, either in Spanish or English. And the way. And I know this is what musicals are. Like, we're having a conversation. Then I start to sing. But it was highlighted. So I never think in a musical, it's weird that that person's singing, right?

[Jackie]

Yeah. In Emulator, I'm like, yay, the song is here.

[Claudia]

And Emilio Perez, I'm like, why are you singing? Like, it was so wrong. Like, none of it added up. And let me tell you, in the beginning of the movie, when she's looking for a doctor who can, like, do the operation but also protect the identity of this person. It's a very high profile drug cartel lord. She travels around the world looking for, like, the best doctors, and she ends up in Tel Aviv. And I was like, no way is this movie taking me to Israel. Like, that's what I mean. Like, you never knew what this movie was gonna throw out at you next. And they ended up going with Dr. Wasserman, the Jewish doctor from Israel who, you know, like, we'll keep your secret. Kept the secret. Like it, the movie just kept going, right turn, left turn, left turn, right turn. Like you just. I can't even tell you what the movie was about.

[Jackie]

Why you gotta bring the Jews into it.

[Claudia]

Yeah, no, it was just like we have our own problems and this terrible movie, like, we really don't, we don't need this.

[Jackie]

It's a narrative we wish to be excluded from, one in which we never asked to be a part of.

[Claudia]

It was actually embarrassing for the well known actors to participate in this movie, like Zoe. And it's crazy because like Zoe Saldan is winning. So she doesn't look at this project as like insane. No, but the dancing and the singing and just like the crazy dialogue.

[Jackie]

What was Ben's reaction when Selena Gomez says that line?

[Claudia]

Oh my God. And she says it in Spanish so it obviously like hits different because you're reading the subtitles, but she essentially is like talking to this man and she's like, my pussy hasn't stopped the robbing since I last saw you. And she says it in Spanish and he was like, whoa, that's what I mean. Like, and it was. Jackie. It was so unnecessary. Like the guy that she was on the phone with is like an old lover, old boyfriend. They get back together. Like it's, it's literally. It wasn't even like a crazy type of relationship. They just like kept doing such crazy things. For the sake of what? Absurdity. Like the theme of the film was absurdity. Nothing was cohesive, nothing made sense. It was seriously. By the end, I was getting so fatigued by the plot twist because by the end it's like a. It's a movie about like a hostage and you know, they have to get the hostage back. And I'm like, how the did we get here? It was seriously the biggest waste of my time, especially knowing that it was not actually based on true events. And I don't know like what led me there. And I'm surprised because people are always so quick to correct me, like when I make things up in the comments and I didn't see one person say that Amelia Perez was not based on a true story.

[Jackie]

That's because no one's seen it. So they couldn't correct you because they didn't know.

[Claudia]

Correct, Correct. So things I did that. Things I wish I didn't do. Also that. And the only thing I Have left is the brutalist. And if anybody could give me, like, some tea on whether or not it's gonna be on a streamer anytime soon, that would be enormously helpful. Also, when I went to the movie theaters, I got into a fight with an old lady.

[Jackie]

Like, oh, my God, Turdi.

[Claudia]

I was walking out of the bathroom at the end of the movie, and there's one door into the bathroom and one door out. So she was coming in, I was coming out. We just, like, clashed. She was like an old lady with a cane. So I was like, oh, my God, I'm so sorry. And I obviously moved away and let her walk through, and she, like, rolled her eyes at me so hard, like, I was doing such. Like, I didn't do anything wrong. I was just leaving while you were entering. It's just unfortunate. Doors open, and I guess normally, like, under certain circumstances, like, a lady with a cane, like, obviously, I would never be disrespectful to, but, like, I'm pregnant now, so, like, we're in the same boat. Like, we're both not well. So I literally was like, you're gonna be fine. Like, I got. I. What did I do? I went out of the way. I said, oh, my gosh, I'm so sorry. Even though I didn't do anything wrong, we just collided, like, very naturally. I did nothing wrong. I was like, oh, my God, I'm sorry, please. And then I moved out of the way for her and her cane to come through, and she's, like, shaking her head, rolling her eyes, and honestly, like, sorry. I don't care who the you are. You're a. You're a. It's timeless.

[Jackie]

I totally agree. That's so crazy.

[Claudia]

Like, I'm just so sick of letting these people. What, because you're geriatric? No. And by the way, normally I would, but now I'm like. I'm checking a box. Like, I'm also like, I deserve, like, you know, doors open for me. I'm pregnant. So you want to play with me? You want to play with me, lady?

[Jackie]

So what you do? Did you hit her?

[Claudia]

No, I just said, you're going to be fine. And I'm 90% sure she didn't even hear me.

[Jackie]

Of course, like, I said, like, she was probably down the hallway, and you're like, to finally come back with your comeback.

[Claudia]

She was right next to me, but she was so old. Like, oh. I mean, she was hard a thousand percent, because she didn't even react. And, you know, she was the type of, like, who Would have reacted if she may.

[Jackie]

Damn. Well, that's really awkward. No, it wasn't.

[Claudia]

It kind of felt good.

[Jackie]

Okay, well, I read this weekend, finally.

[Claudia]

Oh, I saw your story.

[Jackie]

So I read the Goddess of Warsaw, which is like a historical fiction book that I actually wish. I picked it for the redheads. And oh my gosh, I posted like, that. I loved it so much. I just, like, had a couple notes and the author DM me. She's like, what are your notes?

[Claudia]

Oh, my God. That's seriously the worst part of being as successful as we are, especially in the literary space. Like, roasting a book on your stories. Sometimes you'll, like, really hate it.

[Jackie]

Her message was really nice. And the thing is, I didn't roast the book at all. Like I said, I loved it. Highly recommend. I had a couple notes. And by notes I meant like, thoughts. But like, of course I have a couple thoughts. I just read a whole book about the Holocaust. My.

[Claudia]

And it's also like, you have notes. Who the fuck do you think you are?

[Jackie]

So she was like, what are your notes? I would love to answer some questions. I was like, no, I just meant, like, my note is that I loved the historic. It was like, historical and then also modern day. And the historical piece. So it's actually about the Warsaw Ghetto uprising in Poland, which I've learned about, like, back in the day. But I. I needed a refresher because it's such a. It's such a crazy story. It's like, tragic, but it's also like Masada. These just like heroic, tragic stories. It's. You're choosing not like, if you die, but how you die and with dignity. So I loved when, like, that part of the book and then eventually that part ends and then we go into the future. And I just really enjoyed that part more. So that was like my note and I was like, no, I just, like, love that and I just wish there was more of that. But the book was amazing and I do wish that I chose it for the redheads. But you should still read it if you are interested. And also today's Holocaust Remembrance Day, so is a great way to celebrate.

[Claudia]

Donate to the Mark Schoenwater Holocaust Education foundation, mshef.org or read a book if.

[Jackie]

Yeah, if you'd like. So many ways to remember, broaden your knowledge. There are so many stories, so many tragic stories. And also what I liked about this book is that it was a historical fictional take, but it brought in a lot of, like, true things that happened. And I learned so many, like, Just remember when you were reading that story, I think Sophie's Choice, and you like learned about like things that happened that you didn't know. Just like small moments or people. There was a lot of that, just characters and events that I didn't know about that she brought like true things into it. So I learned a lot about that time that way. And it, if you do want to learn, like historical fiction makes the reading like easy. It's not like you're reading a big non fiction history book, but you get a lot out of it. Yeah. So it was actually the perfect thing because I just had said I wanted to read things with more heft and it was definitely hefty, so.

[Claudia]

Well, shout out for Holocaust Memorial. I feel like people are always asking like, you know, what, what to do. And reading a book is great advice. I also feel like check today specifically like a local JCC or like a Hillel Chabad, because I think a lot of them put on programs like, of having Holocaust survivors come and tell their stories. And you know, we're less than 100 years out from the Holocaust, but like, we're getting there. And so we're the last generation of people who will be able to like hear firsthand experiences from people who lived through it. People like Mark. But there are, you know, quite a few left. Most of them live in Israel, but a lot of them live in America. And so they. And a lot of them go around and do like speaking gigs. They answer questions, they just tell their stories and it's like so powerful. If you've never met a Holocaust survivor in person or had the opportunity to hear them speak, it's literally the biggest privilege in the world. So just like check your local JCC or something, you know?

[Jackie]

Yeah, yeah, definitely.

[Claudia]

I feel like they'd be doing that today.

[Jackie]

Yeah. So that's always a good reminder.

[Claudia]

And last thing, just, you know, taking a sharp right turn. Everyone just ignore me. Lots of people want to know. Update on our theme song competition. Have we chosen a winner? What's the status? So Jackie and I have chosen a winner. We are incommunicado with the winner. The winner is, you know, working on signing some paperwork and then the winner will fork over the song and Jackie and I will get in the studio. So I don't know if we're gonna share until we have our own version. What do you think? Should we share like the winning version on our Instagram?

[Jackie]

No, I think that we should wait. So it's a nice, big, exciting reveal and I'm very excited about that. Gotta get on the studio, do my vocal warm ups.

[Claudia]

There's just so much change happening here. Like, it's so funny. We do nothing. We literally change nothing for years. Then in one week, we have, like, a whole new song, a whole new studio, a whole new life.

[Jackie]

When it rains, of course.

[Claudia]

Yeah, I completely agree.

[Jackie]

How are you feeling about all the change? Pulse check? Because I know you're not like a change friendly sort of gal person.

[Claudia]

I'm actually with this, this particular set of changes, like, I'm really comfortable with it. You guys know how, like, I had so many problems with my old studio. This new one is just closer to my house. The bathroom's cleaner. Like, everything about it is better. So I'm feeling okay. Like, I'm getting rid of the Good Morning Millennials, which is, like, going to be, like, a big thing for us, and replacing it with a theme song that I'm having, like, a little bit more, you know, second thoughts about. Because it's just, it's hard to create these sort of iconic moments that people come to love and expect and know, and we're just doing away with one. It feels wasteful. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

[Jackie]

Yeah, but evolution.

[Claudia]

Evolve or die.

[Jackie]

Evolve or die. So that's. That's what brings us to today.

[Claudia]

That is what brings us to today. Also, just so much to discuss. Taylor on the field. Travis is going to the Super Bowl.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

Mars has a new song that's really taking the world by store.

[Jackie]

Big football news. We'll do football at the top of the stories. So in order to recap last night and the puff pastry hot dogs that I made, let me tell you, they were so damn good. I'm cracking up because you and Ben called me and they, like, thought that I stole Ben's idea to make an Ina puff pastry.

[Claudia]

Yeah. Ben had just made a video of him recreating an Ina garden recipe using puff pastry and mustard that he saw on Ina garden when we were watching Back to Basics, Barefoot Contessa. And then, you know, one week later, my sister is making a puff pastry aina dish using mustard from her Ina cookbook. So we, we didn't accuse. We just thought, like, maybe she sought inspiration. So we just called and asked.

[Jackie]

But then we realized we came together and we turned on Ina and we're like, oh, she has one trick, and it was in her cookbook and it was in her show because she has multiple recipes. I had my eye on that recipe in that cookbook for Two years, but I never made it. And then I was like, I wanted pigs in a blank. And I was like, oh, yeah, that Ina recipe and it's in her cookbook and it's on her show. But honestly, painting on some great poupon on puff pastry, Chef's kiss, she's right for that.

[Claudia]

Let me say something about Aina and I feel like maybe it's unfair to say it just about Ida. I think it's any.

[Jackie]

Are you going to drag her by her hair?

[Claudia]

I'm not because her hair is not long enough for that. But what I'm going to say is, and I think that if you were to watch any, because me and Ben just got like obsessed with Ina. Her show was on Max. We must have watched in the last two weeks, like 25 episodes of her show. It's short. It's 25. And so you just watch a lot of her. So I don't think it's specific to her. I think you would find this with any chef. But, like, like, she's kind of quirky. Like, I feel like her food actually just tastes good because it's all butter and salt. Like, that's it. Anything is good if you put a whole stick of butter and a gallon of salt in it. She garnishes everything with more salt. And that's like her catchphrase. She's a little bit more salt because you can never have enough. Actually, you can. It's called high cholesterol. Like, she's just sort of like, I don't know, I feel like, is her food good or is it just the butter?

[Jackie]

Well, I will say everything that I've made from one of her cookbooks has been good. And I don't go for like the butter heavy recipes. But last night's hot dog in Puff Precious was extremely decadent. Like, I had a two thirds of one and that was as much as I could have. But it was, it was a special treat for sure.

[Claudia]

Of course, of course.

[Jackie]

But it was really, just saying, really.

[Claudia]

And I don't think it's specific to Aina. I'm not being critical of her. I'm just. Even though I feel like a lot of people think me and I have beef because I made fun of her, like, memoir so endlessly and my husband's in love with her.

[Jackie]

I was talking about her yesterday. I had people over not to rub it in and we were talking about Aina and I forget what we were saying, but it came up like, your thoughts, like, on her and how, like, you literally dragged her to filthy. The last time we talk about every time we talk about her, like every time I tried to be like, her memoir is exciting.

[Claudia]

Well, it's a bad name first of all. And second of all, I think ever since Martha Stewart like said that thing about Aina not with her going after going to prison, I just realized like that's I just not the type of girl I would ever be friends with.

[Jackie]

She's not the girl you thought she was.

[Claudia]

She's not the girl I thought she was. And that's not my fault. That's in his fault.

[Jackie]

I agree.

[Claudia]

It's great. Great.

[Jackie]

Now without further ado, da doo da do it is time for the past five stories that you need to know.

[Claudia]

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[Jackie]

See what they did.

[Claudia]

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[Jackie]

Thank you, turd at Money.

[Claudia]

You're welcome. Oh, I haven't sung in the studio yet. Let's hear like, what the. Just let's get a quick, like, mic checks. Yeah. Skipping Hannah Montana transitions. Yeah. So good.

[Jackie]

I would love to get Hannah Montana transitions, like between ad breaks and even stories in this episode. Like, we would have to do them live because.

[Claudia]

Okay. By the way, challenge accept.

[Jackie]

I will. So next time I say, are you ready for the next story? Like every time I say it. If you could just remember to do a little Ditty.

[Claudia]

Oh, yeah.

[Jackie]

Part our first story, little football news. The Chiefs and Eagles are going to the Super Bowl. The Eagles triumphed over the Roz Washingtons, and the Chiefs beat the Bills.

[Claudia]

Sorry, they don't even deserve the name Roz Washington. Sorry. The way they played. Like, crud. Sorry don't come for me, fans. Like, it was not giving Commanders. It was giving. It was giving the Washington. You know, I don't want to come for, like, I'll say it. I'll say it. Even the Washington losers. Like, my God. Ever heard of catching a ball? Yeah, really bad. They lost by, like, 25 points.

[Jackie]

But, like, the Commanders were never going to the Super Bowl. Like, I feel like we could have called that.

[Claudia]

But you good luck telling their fans that last week.

[Jackie]

No, like, the team named Commanders, they don't even know who they are.

[Claudia]

It doesn't elicit that sort of, like, super bowl energy.

[Jackie]

It really doesn't. So they're not going to the super bowl, like, as you would think. And the Chiefs did beat the Bills, which after the Eagles beat the Commanders, I was. By the way, I didn't watch a lick of either game, but I was then, like, hoping for the Bills to win more, even though typically I wouldn't have cared just to, like, do something different. Eagles v. Bills.

[Claudia]

Yep. So I watched both games in fall.

[Jackie]

The Birds are fighting.

[Claudia]

It was clear from day one, like, minute one, that the Bill. The Eagles were going to be winning that game. So it was like, okay, who are the Eagles going to play? And I also was rooting for the Bills, One, just to change it up, and two, because I heard a statistic about the Bills that Ben told me that actually made me, like, want to cry for them. Like, they deserve it. Okay, first of all, they have never won a Super bowl, which is just kind of crazy. Like, they had O.J. you know, they're like, not, like a loser, unknown team. Like, they're always, like, making waves. But they have been three times or maybe even four. Jackie. They went in 1990, 91, 92, 93, and they lost every single time.

[Jackie]

And then this would have been their chance to go. And they're not even getting to go because I also feel like getting to go is really major, even if you don't win. Like, obviously winning the super bowl goals, but, like, getting to play at the super bowl is a goal as well.

[Claudia]

Huge.

[Jackie]

So, yeah, by then I was sort of rooting for the Bills, but, like, the Chief ccs, like, they're just the Patriots. Like, they are just that team. They are the best team. They're not like, winning by ch. Chance at this point.

[Claudia]

The greatest in the league.

[Jackie]

And I'm happy for the Eagles to have another shot at the Chiefs. I feel like they wanted the Chiefs to win so that they can, like, have that moment. I feel like they might even let JC Jason Kelsey play in the game, be on the sidelines.

[Claudia]

But the thing is, and sorry, like, don't come for me, Eagles fans, because I respect you and I, and I, like, I understand your desire, but based on just what I know, like, it's not even a question. The Chiefs are going to win again because look at like the games they played last night. And that's what I don't like about these two divisions because I feel like based on merit, the super bowl should have been the Chiefs and the Bills, like, they were the best teams in the league this year. So the fact that, like, the Bills don't even get to go kind of sucks. And like, I think that if the Eagles played the Bills, they would have lost. Do you know what I mean?

[Jackie]

Yes, I do know what you mean. And so odds are they're rolling into.

[Claudia]

The super bowl having played, no offense, Washington, like this big team of losers, like, who seriously could get arrested it if they tried. And like, yeah, they won by so many points. It's like not impressive. Like, if I played a preschooler, yeah, I would win also. So I think that, like, they are coming in like they get their hot shit. And the Chiefs, like, the Chiefs play the Bills like they earned hard. It was a three game, three point game. Like, they earned it last night. So I feel like it's not even a question of who's going to win. And I just want to say, like, no hate to anyone involved. I'm so bored. I'm so bored. Like, how many times have I seen the Eagles play the Chiefs? Like a thousand times. Like, give me someone new. And I understand that's how it works. Like when you're building dynasties, it's like, I get it, I get it. But just as a consumer who's like, purely showing up for entertainment purposes, like, I am bored.

[Jackie]

I agree. I think odds are the Chiefs will win, like, based on stats and skill. But, like, sometimes people have an off game and sometimes people have.

[Claudia]

This team doesn't. Sorry, they literally don't.

[Jackie]

Someone could get injured, God forbid. You know, I don't want that.

[Claudia]

But that's the thing.

[Jackie]

But sometimes, like, sometimes the juju is off and that's what the Eagles have to.

[Claudia]

They have like, they have built in contingency plans because I feel like earlier in the year Travis was kind of stinking it up and they like kept winning because they have such a good team. They have other alternates. Like, they're stacked. They have, you know, plans in place for these kinds of things for injuries and lack of juju.

[Jackie]

And I also want to say, so not only do they need lack of juju, the Eagles want it more.

[Claudia]

Yes.

[Jackie]

And that maybe for that reason they could win. Like they are the underdog. What is Jason Kelsey say? Hungry dogs gonna eat? Like, they might win because of that. Because they're hungry.

[Claudia]

They might. They're hungry. So I just, I think I've seen this film before and I don't know, it's just that hitting in the way that it did the first time around. Like, I loved seeing Taylor on the field. Right. But it wasn't as crazy. It's just like she belongs there now, you know?

[Jackie]

Yeah. She's a girl.

[Claudia]

Get down there. Even though last time we were like, we were like, there's no way she's going to be on the field. And then she went. So. Yeah, I don't know. I just. I was like hoping for something new maybe like Haley Steinfeld's on the field, you know?

[Jackie]

Yeah. Was she at the game last night? Did you see her?

[Claudia]

I don't know. I went to her social media and she doesn't post as like a wag ever. Yeah, her social media is extremely business promotional, which I really respect. She is this global superstar. But not even on her stories, like wearing an off season puffer from Kristen use check. Like I saw none of it.

[Jackie]

Yeah. But I feel like she was definitely there as the fiance. I don't think anything called her away. But yeah, she's pretty low key.

[Claudia]

She is. So I don't even know if we would have seen her on the field.

[Jackie]

I feel like we would have and we were robbed of that. But it is exciting. Like for the girlies lure will be at the super bowl. Like, who's gonna be in the box with her? This whole thing again. But yes, we have seen this film before. But we liked the movie. So the movie that we liked got us.

[Claudia]

It's true. A sequel. I read a statistic that was like, Taylor's been to 22 Chiefs games and they've won 19 of them. That's just like so crazy.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Jessica Simpson is like crying when she read that.

[Claudia]

A thousand percent. Like, she Whatever the opposite experience. Jeff. Jessica that Jessica had. Taylor's currently having.

[Jackie]

Yes. But I Also think, like, Taylor goes to all the home games, and don't people just statistically win more home games?

[Claudia]

Yeah, that's true. She does go to a lot.

[Jackie]

Not to say that she's not his good look, Charles, of course. And everyone wants to play better when Larry is in the room.

[Claudia]

It's definitely intimidating.

[Jackie]

And they are also just like a dynasty. They're just a good team. She picked, like, a. Maybe she dates Travis because he's on the best team, and that's why the best team keeps winning, because it's the best team.

[Claudia]

It would have been impressive if she, like, started dating someone from the Cleveland Browns, and all of a sudden they're at the super bowl, you know, like, that's impressive. Yeah, she's just, like, you know, shooting fish in a barrel.

[Jackie]

Yeah. No, but Travis only got a date with her because he's on the best team. She wasn't dating someone from the Jets.

[Claudia]

Right, right.

[Jackie]

Not to bring the jets into this. They've been through a lot.

[Claudia]

I'm just bringing everyone into it so people can't say, like, charity, you're so mean to, like, the Detroit fans. I'm bitch. I mean, I mean to everyone.

[Jackie]

And also, I think you're mean to all the fans of the NFL because they're all crazy.

[Claudia]

They're all so crazy. And it's also funny.

[Jackie]

They're all the elk of crazy people, like, in a different way than other crazy people. But, like, people get so bent out of shape.

[Claudia]

Although I will say, because I do think, like, a lot of the times people's reactions are so crazy. I did last night, like, I did really feel for the Bills fans, mostly because, like, I love Josh Allen. I really relate to somebody with old tweets, and I just. I love him, and I think he's really sweet, and I think he, like, works really hard, and he does all that he can. He didn't mess up. You know, Like, I just want to say I'm not a football expert, but I know that there's, like, a group of people whose job it is to protect the quarterback, and they had obviously, like, lost their vision or something because they were just doing a terrible job last night. Like, he did all that he could. Nobody had, like, one big error. I felt bad for them. They played. They fought hard. They played a good game.

[Jackie]

And isn't that sometimes worse than just, like, losing by a ton? And, like, you never stood a chance? Like, you were this close.

[Claudia]

Is Bruno choking? Is he okay?

[Jackie]

You. Oh, classic broody. This close. What is it, lambo? No, that's. That's something. That's Lombardi.

[Claudia]

They don't get Lamborghinis when they win.

[Jackie]

Lambo Field is the packers, and the.

[Claudia]

Lombardi Trophy is the big football that they get if they win the Super Bowl.

[Jackie]

And Travis saying again, he said, he's saying, do a little dance, make a little love. Get down tonight.

[Claudia]

That's what I'm saying. Like, everything is just, like, kind of giving, repetitive.

[Jackie]

I literally feel like I'm simulation.

[Claudia]

Yeah. Because nobody, nobody, like, recalled back to him. He said, do a little dance, make a little love. And then he basically gave the microphone to the crowd to say, get down tonight. And they didn't realize what was happening. So it was like, get down tonight. It was just like a little awkward.

[Jackie]

Yeah. And it's just. I always forget that that's his personality.

[Claudia]

I know. Because he's just serious on the field, like, except when he's, you know, doing his end game. End zone dance.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

I want to be an end game.

[Jackie]

Well, that's our Super Bowl. Two weeks, the big game. We'll see who it's going to be, though. At this point, like, I. I don't care so much.

[Claudia]

Yeah. No, at this point, I kind of know.

[Jackie]

And Chiefs v. Eagles was really fun when it was brothers. Brothers bowl.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Without Jason, it doesn't hit the same.

[Claudia]

Agreed. Hashtag, bring back my Jason.

[Jackie]

Are you ready for our next story? How quickly they forget. Where's my transition?

[Claudia]

Oh, yeah.

[Jackie]

Real Housewives of Beverly Hills star Erica Jane's son, Tommy rizzo. Tommy Zizzo Jr. Testifies at ASAP Rocky's trial. So, yeah, this is really just a who's who of Hollywood and showing what a small town it can be.

[Claudia]

It's so true. It's so random. And I think when people read the headline, you're like, what? But then you hear the facts. It's like, actually not that crazy.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Thomas Zizo Jr. An LA police officer and son of Erica Jane. People don't realize because he's not on the show, but she has a son and he is a police officer in la. And he took.

[Claudia]

His last name is not Jada Girardi. So you would never know that they're related.

[Jackie]

It's Zizo. He took the stand on Friday during day one of ASAP Rockies trial. TMZ reported ASAP faces two counts of assault with a semi automatic firearm related to a 2021 shooting incident in Hollywood. He is accused of firing two or three shots at Terrell Efron, a childhood Friend. According to the ap, Efron claims the alleged shots grazed his knuckles. The rapper has pleaded not guilty, and he faces up to 24 years in prison if convicted. The officer Zizo was one of the first LAPD officers to respond to the scene of the alleged 2021 incident. While on the stand, he testified about what he saw at the scene when he arrived.

[Claudia]

Okay, so, yeah, he was just like, a cop, a part of a trial. Like, cops do trials all the time.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

It just so happens that this is a high profile trial and that the person, you know on the stand has a wife who's obsessed with housewives. Like, that's the funny part. And people were like, I wonder if bad gallery race still follows Erica on Instagram. She does. I don't even. I feel like she probably wouldn't have put this together until the Internet did. It's so random.

[Jackie]

It's true. I don't think she would have put it together. How could she? Unless someone had told her? Like, but who would even. Who would know such a thing? So, yeah, I. I don't see how this, like, changes anything of Rihanna Stanhood. Like, he's just doing his job.

[Claudia]

And do you think that ASAP's lawyer could use this as, like, some sort of leverage to, like, for a mistrial? Like, it's. It's. It's not a conflict of interest in any way, but, like, a lawyer maybe could spin it like that. No.

[Jackie]

I think in Hollywood, like, the odds that two people in a trial have a connection to fame are not crazy.

[Claudia]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jackie]

The judge has seen it before.

[Claudia]

But I guess then, like, if anybody on the trial is, I mean, on the jury is, like, a huge fan of housewives, like, they would have to.

[Jackie]

Recuse themselves perhaps, but they won't know that. They can't, like, consume content about this trial. So I don't think they would know this.

[Claudia]

Right, right. It's also kind of, like, low key. No one's talking about ASAP Rocky, like, being on trial for, like, kind of egregious crimes.

[Jackie]

Right. I didn't realize that.

[Claudia]

It doesn't add up. It doesn't add up. Like, I don't know. It's giving. It's giving. He's framed, like, what I know about him from, you know, being Rihanna's, you know, boyfriend, being happy to be a.

[Jackie]

Supportive partner and a doting father and husband partner.

[Claudia]

Yeah. Right. People who are, like, supportive partners and, like, let the women in their lives make way more money than them and, like, are so proud of them, they Just don't go around shooting people. They just don't.

[Jackie]

They don't choose their childhood friends.

[Claudia]

No, they don't. Like, it's just. It's incongruous with the man that I've sort of become. Come to know.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

So I'm on his side.

[Jackie]

We're now on watch for this trial because. Also. For two reasons now.

[Claudia]

Right. Of course.

[Jackie]

It would have been regardless.

[Claudia]

That's the thing about bravo. It is, like, connected to everything. It's just there's always a bravo connection. Katy Perry suing the 1-800-flowers guy. It turns out to be Cameron westcott's father in law. Like, it's just. It's crazy.

[Jackie]

Yes. But I also think it's because the housewives are notable people or their families are notable. Like, that's why they're housewives, because they are connected.

[Claudia]

Oh, speaking of housewives, did you see bars from bose? Excuse me, from real housewives of beverly hills had a birthday party in New York and dorit flew from L. A. To be there. Like, all the roni women were there. She was, like, posting, and then she was like, my girl dorit flew in from l. A. Oh, so cute. I was like, oh, these two are like, real friends.

[Jackie]

No, I didn't see that. Why'd she have it in New York?

[Claudia]

I don't know. Maybe she's like, a lot of friends in New York or she just happened to have been in New York. But dorit flew and they, like, were posting such cute pictures.

[Jackie]

Love, love.

[Claudia]

No, I'm obsessed with their friendship.

[Jackie]

Apparently. When I asked last week if who was on watch what happens live, apparently it was bose and dorit was in the audience and.

[Claudia]

Or their best friends.

[Jackie]

Yeah. I don't know if three was in the arden's. Wait, but she was saying that she was defending dorit, like, at every turn. Like, I would have loved it. So now I gotta go watch. I have them all recorded. Yeah.

[Claudia]

No, I'm telling you, I had a good feeling about her when she showed up, and it's nice to be right finally about something.

[Jackie]

Oh, my God. Speaking of not being right about something, and I'm not saying that we're not right, but, like, things are taking a turn with Justin baldoni. Do you find.

[Claudia]

Did you see the video of Justin baldoni on the beach at tmz? Like, back red got, like, a video of him playing with his kids in the ocean, like he's on vacation in hawaii.

[Jackie]

No, I saw that he was on vacation.

[Claudia]

Anybody like, going into the ocean to, like, Frolic. It's so unattractive. Like, there's no cool way. Especially, like, the really choppy Hawaii waters. Like, there's no attractive, cool way to, like, dive into the ocean. But he, like, does this jump as, like, a wave is, like, pulling out, and he literally just, like, hits the deck. Like, it's on TMZ's Instagram. I highly recommend watching it just made me giggle. But, yes, I agree, things are not looking good for Blake Lively and those who defended her. Having said that, I still haven't changed my mind. I'm just, like, being quiet about it because I'm really not in the mood to deal with it. But, yeah, they were just subpoenaed to turn over all their personal text messages. Ryan and Blake.

[Jackie]

Right. And that regardless of how it plays out in a legal sense of, like, what.

[Claudia]

The crimes.

[Jackie]

The crimes, it's not going to be good. However, you talk to your husband about your coworker that you don't like, oh, my God, it's not going to look good from, like, a public perception sort of thing. So when I saw that, I was like, this is going to be really bad. I also just feel like.

[Claudia]

Also know she texts weird with her Khaleesi.

[Jackie]

Right. Right. No, like, it's not going to be good, and it's not going to look good for her. And I feel like a lot of people are really turning. And now that the.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Case has turned, like, criminal. Not criminal, but not. No longer civil, where it's like, really? They're going to trial. Like, I think things are starting to look really bad.

[Claudia]

I'm, like, kind of waiting for the other shoe to drop. All this stuff has happened. She hasn't responded at all, like, legally or like. So I'm feeling like, does she have this big thing in her arsenal that's going to end it, or is she just, like, rolling over and taking it? Also, I thought there was, like, some sort of law against. I know you can't. That you don't have to testify against a spouse legally if you're married. Like, that is a protected thing. So I'm shocked to find that, like, you would have to fork over, like, under what grounds would I ever have to give my text messages with my husband? You know what I mean?

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

It's so. It's kind of egregious, like, even for anyone like you. I don't know. I. I'm not understanding the legality of it. I'm sure they're like, if the judge said they have to do it, that There's a reason, but I feel like it's. I've never heard of that.

[Jackie]

Yeah, no, that's why when I saw that, I was like, well, damn, that's. There's no way those are gonna be good.

[Claudia]

They're screwed.

[Jackie]

They're screwed.

[Claudia]

They're screwed.

[Jackie]

Even if it doesn't prove anything in a court of law, just, like, seeing them. Oh, my God, look, good.

[Claudia]

Reading two people who are, like, in a marriage of, you know, multiple years, seeing their communication is going to be crazy. But two people of notable fame and wealth and lots of connected friends and just who we've gotten a window into how, like, Blake speaks. And it's weird. Like, I. I'm just thinking about, like, if anybody ever read my text messages with Ben the other day, I thought he finished the cream cheese. I was standing in the fridge writing probably the nastiest text message I've ever sent to anyone. Because it's like, I know Ben likes cream cheese, but I'm the one who's been stocking up on cream cheese.

[Jackie]

Because, no, you go through a lot of times.

[Claudia]

Every morning.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

Yes. I have a bagel every single morning. And honestly, when you have a bagel every morning, you go through it like a thing of cream cheese, like, after, like, seven days. So when Ben eats it and finishes it, like, you leave me without cream cheese. Like, at least tell me I'll buy more. So I was writing such a. I'm like, the fact that you would disrespect me. I was really being so crazy. And thank God, right before I sent it, I saw the cream cheese was right in front of me. But, like, that's just how, you know, married people talk.

[Jackie]

No, it's gonna be crazy to see how they talk about Justin because think about also how you just talk about other people in your personal, like, my enemy, how they talk about Justin. It's not gonna look good for them, but then also, it's gonna be a window into how they talk about to each other, which, you know, could be.

[Claudia]

Bad, could be good, could be anything. They're just, like, a couple who prefers to, like, communicate in person more like, oh, we'll talk about it when I get home.

[Jackie]

Yeah, please. Popcorn, please.

[Claudia]

Paper, please. Bruno needs to go out.

[Jackie]

No, needs to go strike clock, please.

[Claudia]

I'm like, talk to texting when I'm really mad in the back of an Uber, I'm like. And that fat said to me, like, I. Like, I. Sometimes I can't wait, like, to, like, unload it onto Ben in person. I have to send it via text message. So I, I truly, I don't think they could have received a worse like order. They, they would have said, you know what, we'll go to prison for a year. Like this will be so bad.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

I'm seriously wishing them well. That's horrible.

[Jackie]

Yeah, same. And I do feel like things are, are really negative. So. We shall see. We shall see. Are you ready for our next story? Number three.

[Claudia]

Oh, yeah.

[Jackie]

Gracie Abrams is blasting a fan petition to replace. To replace Dora Jar as her tour open. Her. If you never heard Dora Jar before, like, it's okay. I'm with you, Dora Jar. I was like 2000 said Dora. What? I. It was a lot. So anyways, Gracie Abrams has an opener for her tour named Dora Jar and I guess what, pop off Dora. Yes. I guess some of her fans like didn't know who Dora Jar was and they weren't excited about that. So they started a petition to replace the opening act for her upcoming tour dates and Gracie has now responded. Anyways, the petition was on Change.org calling for Jar, her real name.

[Claudia]

Real where real change happens.

[Jackie]

Her real name is Dora Charkowski, which sounds like, is she Jewish? I don't know. But Dora Jar, yeah. Calling for her to be replaced. The position has now been deleted. But it read in part that says, quote, many fans, including myself and myself being a person named Dexter Morgan. These are all names, you guys. Dexter Morgan. We are baffled by the recent announcement. We are perplexed as we do not recognize her. And with less than twosaurus.com with less than two weeks till the tour, it's virtually impossible to familiar ourselves with her slow paced songs. For a memorable concert experience. An opening act should set the mood and get the crowd excited. But Dora's slow tempo songs may not achieve this goal. This can't be real.

[Claudia]

Jackie, I'm so glad we're talking about this and I'm so glad that this happened because I feel like it really proves a thesis of mine from the last couple of years where like Stanhood is a true mental illness.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

Anybody who would put this together, write it, and then publicize it is actually a danger to society. I don't know what they thought was gonna happen, but I imagine they thought that Gracie would see this, be like, oh my God, my fans don't like it. And she would cancel on this girl just to appease, to appease these crazy people. And the sense of entitlement that that reflects is genuinely that of like a true narcissist sociopath like I believe when you get really involved in Stan culture, it can actually affect your mental health. And this is what we're seeing on change. Org right now. Like, this is so crazy. It's so rude. First of all, do you know what an opener is? This isn't Coachella, where, you know everyone. An opener is someone who opens somebody who's less than, less famous, less successful, so it's their opportunity to get to know. It's like a platform. I don't know what. You obviously don't understand, like, what a concert is, but seriously, I wish Gracie would honestly have been a little bit more harsher with these people. I know she wants to be nice to her fans, but sometimes fans need to be yelled at. I love that video of Halsey coming out screaming at everybody.

[Jackie]

Yeah. So she commented on an Instagram post about this and said, just hearing about this absolute ridiculousness, so wildly uncool and bizarre and also just does not remotely add up. I've only seen everyone's total excitement, and I couldn't be luckier or prouder to share a stage with this talented wonder. Stream everything she's ever made, whether or not you're coming to the show. Dora forever and era. She said do strong is what she said.

[Claudia]

She said, this one's for do.

[Jackie]

This one's for do.

[Claudia]

I like that.

[Jackie]

She was like, you know, she tackled it head on. She, like, put them in their place and stood up for her girl, Dora. I would stand up for Dora because.

[Claudia]

Like, these types of, like, stands are, like, that's what you want, right? These are the types of people who, you know, show up. They rush the barricade, they buy tickets. Like, that's for every pop artist. Like, you want that sort of. Sort of crazy fan, but then you also have to deal with this. Like, this is seriously so crazy and so disrespectful and so wrong. And I love that Gracie, like, stood her ground. And I hope she, you know, brings Dora out every show and makes door into a star.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

But seriously, people are deeply unwell.

[Jackie]

Stream Dora, you know, yeah, put the do on, and I actually do what.

[Claudia]

You got to do.

[Jackie]

I have to thank Dexter Morgan because I had never heard of Dora Jar, and now, one, I've heard of her, and two, I feel compelled to support her artistry. So thanks, Dexter. You just made her bigger.

[Claudia]

And I love that they, like, they. They were so proud.

[Jackie]

This.

[Claudia]

It wasn't like, anonymous troll behavior. Like, these are, like, they put their names.

[Jackie]

But don't you feel like Dexter Morgan sounds like a Fake name.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Who is Dexter?

[Claudia]

More like a TV character. Right, right. I'm sure the. The. What do the Abrams fans call themselves? Like, the Abrahamas?

[Jackie]

Like, the JJs.

[Claudia]

The JJs love that.

[Jackie]

I'm sorry. Like, Gracie Abrams. You're so talented. Like, seriously, she is.

[Claudia]

We're holding space for two truths. She's a Nepo baby.

[Jackie]

Who nbt. Next big thing. Like, she is it. But I just can't ever separate the two, which is good. Like, I'm sure she's so proud. Lost was an amazing show. I think I've heard you've never seen it.

[Claudia]

No, I'm not. It's so good.

[Jackie]

Is it, like. Yeah.

[Claudia]

Like, it's. Yes.

[Jackie]

Worth coming.

[Claudia]

It's, like, a little silly at the end. And I don't think the end for a lot of people, myself included, like, satiated.

[Jackie]

What?

[Claudia]

We were, like, dying to find out it was a kind of an impossible plane to land, for lack of a better metaphor. But the show itself, me and Ben talk about it all the time still.

[Jackie]

Okay, so good question. If I were to, like, do a show, like, a whole watch of a show, should I do you Lost or Breaking Brad? Brad or Breaking Bad?

[Claudia]

Question. Honestly. They're both good. You know, there's no wrong way to go.

[Jackie]

Okay.

[Claudia]

I think you would like Lost better.

[Jackie]

Okay. And I think for the JJ lore, I should see Lost.

[Claudia]

The only problem I really had with Breaking Bad was the fact that there wasn't one character I didn't want to choke. Like, I hated them all that feeling.

[Jackie]

I don't want to feel that way.

[Claudia]

I know. Like, Skyler, the mom, the dad, Breaking Bad, whatever his name was. Hated you.

[Jackie]

Walter.

[Claudia]

I guess we were supposed to like Jet Walter thinking I think we were supposed to like Jesse. You have.

[Jackie]

You know, I've seen it in my mind's eye a thousand percent. Are you ready for our next story?

[Claudia]

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[Jackie]

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[Claudia]

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[Jackie]

Thank you, Dirty Nile.

[Claudia]

You're welcome, Dirty Nile.

[Jackie]

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[Claudia]

Oh, yeah.

[Jackie]

Our next story is a bit of shocking news. Bruno Mars's new song with sexy red is shocking the Internet. So Bruno Mars has just dropped a new song. It's called Fat, Juicy and wet and it's actually heels. It's actually more shocking than you even think based on the title, which is shocking.

[Claudia]

Yes, it is. It's his version of wap. It is on the. Him releasing that teaser, like, on the heels of us just doing like a whole episode about how he's so amazing for families and. And you know, my in laws love him and everybody loves him.

[Jackie]

Kids.

[Claudia]

And you're gonna read the lyrics? Of course.

[Jackie]

Yes, I plan to. I have them up here on Genius lyrics. Claudia. I'm clutching my pearls. I actually don't know if I could read these words. Like, I'm gonna try.

[Claudia]

Okay. And you would let me know if you want me to do it.

[Jackie]

Like, I've only gotten through the first.

[Claudia]

Be better for, like, entertainment purposes if you did it.

[Jackie]

I've only gotten through the first verse. Even, like. And now I'm looking at the second verse and I'm in shock. But I've gotten myself comfortable with the verse. Fat, juicy and wet I don't even gang bang so good make me throw, make me throw up a set that good kitty kitty good kitty kitty make it my pet pretty type of you ain't never gonna forget Catch you seeing wet, wet, wet wet wet wet Then I can't like weed like dope like cocaine Put it up your nose.

[Claudia]

Oh, wow. Put it up your nose.

[Jackie]

Okay, I'm not reading anymore. I haven't even.

[Claudia]

What is this dog actually called?

[Jackie]

It's called fat, juicy and Red. I listened to the first 15 seconds, but we had someone in studio with us and I was seriously so uncomfortable and I turned embarrassed and I was just embarrassed. I can't even read the next line. If you want to take it away, go ahead. Bruno, what have you done? Bruno, what have you done? I need my dog after you.

[Claudia]

And even, like, when I think about his lyrics in. In his, like, historically, like, they're not clean, but I don't know, they don't come off as, like, you know, that juicy wet.

[Jackie]

Go to the next stanza. You're gonna. I don't know if you'll be able to do it.

[Claudia]

Stanza, okay. Which verse?

[Jackie]

Verse? The Sexy Red verse.

[Claudia]

Okay. That bust down middle parts. Oh, Sexy Red after.

[Jackie]

Sexy Red after pee like cocaine.

[Claudia]

Oh, wow. Okay. Oh, no, I can't read that right. Yeah. No, I can't. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. No, Claudia is really crazy.

[Jackie]

This is so crazy. This looks. Wap. May look like a nursery rhyme.

[Claudia]

Yep, it really, really does.

[Jackie]

At least they had an acronym.

[Claudia]

It's true.

[Jackie]

This could have been called fjw.

[Claudia]

This is so un. Bruno, like. But honestly. And I know he references the gambling rumor about him.

[Jackie]

Do you think that the debts are this steep that he's had to resort to this?

[Claudia]

It's the only logical explanation that I can offer here today, honestly.

[Jackie]

However, this. If I was making a million dollars, only three people can listen to this. This is not going to be a.

[Claudia]

Cash cow, but have you ever seen a song of Bruno Mars get this much press?

[Jackie]

I actually. I have to be honest. I saw he had a new song. I didn't know that it was this, like, vulgar. And then you said, let's make it a story. So then I was like, oh, okay. What's. What's Brutie up to? And so, no, I hadn't seen a lot of press about it, if I'm honest. Okay.

[Claudia]

And I knew. I'm obviously not familiar with Sexyy Red's line of work, but I did see her going viral last week for sharing an AI image of herself and Martin Luther King. And actually, Martin Luther King's granddaughter, Bernice King actually asked her to delete it, like, saying it was very disrespectful because she's, like, a very. You know, I saw that performer, and so it's kind of like, I didn't know much about Sexy Red, and now I know a lot about, obviously, her FJW and her work with mlk.

[Jackie]

So she's big on acronyms.

[Claudia]

She's big on acronyms. I don't. I just. I. I don't know. This is so not like the Bruno that I know and I. And we're just coming off of Apita, which Is like such a cutesy little. Like, you know, it's a song for everyone now.

[Jackie]

I'm worried if I put on Apatow, like on Spotify, like, is this gonna come on next? Like, I listen to that with the kids.

[Claudia]

You need to block your Spotify from playing that song.

[Jackie]

No, it's.

[Claudia]

And the truth is, like, a lot of the kids love Apatie. It's like becoming like a baby shark.

[Jackie]

Yeah, it really is. It's a great song. I don't know what this is about. I'm just going to skip over this one, you know?

[Claudia]

Yeah, yeah, just blind spot. Like, it's so important. Like, when things don't add up, I just. I can't even bother trying to get down to the bottom of it. Like, I'm just going to ignore this.

[Jackie]

Yeah, no, no, no. This was really shocking. Go read the last of the lyrics for yourself. Like, it's. And I actually, I feel like I really step up to the plate and I read like you did, and I.

[Claudia]

Feel like you pretty much gave us the gist.

[Jackie]

No, it gets crazier just now.

[Claudia]

It gets crazier. It really does. Are you ready for this?

[Jackie]

Are you ready for a fifth and final story? That is such interesting news to you.

[Claudia]

And I. I keep singing the same Hannah Montana transition. What are other ones?

[Jackie]

What are you singing?

[Claudia]

Oh, yeah.

[Jackie]

But also transitions are what you make them, so let's make them rock 100%. Our fifth and final story that you and I are going to find so interesting and everyone else might turn off is that Spotify has now put out their inaugural Podcaster Milestone Awards. So Spotify. Does that mean giving out awards for podcasting streaming numbers? Just like how the YouTube, like, does. Like, oh, when you hit 100 million views or 100 plaque, you get a plaque. So Joe Rogan and Crime Junkie have both topped the 500 million all time streams on Spotify. Spotify has given out awards just on Spotify. Yeah. So they have the gold, which is 500 million streams, silver is 250 million streams, and bronze is 100 million streams.

[Claudia]

I would love to know what we have because we had like 100 million streams a couple of years ago, but that was.

[Jackie]

That's all platforms. So not on Spotify. We are not on this list. I think we would have, like, you know, been awarded something if we were.

[Claudia]

Yeah, we would know. We would know. I'm just trying to guess, like, how far are we from bronze?

[Jackie]

Yeah. But it's also interesting to see who has hit these numbers on Spotify of course, shows that are exclusive to Spotify are going to have a better chance. But Joe Rogan and Crime Junkie are the only two to have hit hit 500 million all time downloads, which makes sense.

[Claudia]

That's cool.

[Jackie]

Silver podcast. So 250 million plus. There's a bunch of them. And actually probably not what you would expect. Dateline NBC go off.

[Claudia]

They're always topping charts.

[Jackie]

My favorite murder classic Barstool is part of my take.

[Claudia]

Classic the. The male equivalent of the toast.

[Jackie]

Right. Stuff you should know. I've heard of that one.

[Claudia]

I think it's called you should know.

[Jackie]

No, here it says stuff you should know.

[Claudia]

Okay. Okay.

[Jackie]

And then that's all for Silver. So it's a short list. And then bronze 100 million plus streams are Diary of a CEO classic. Rotten mango.

[Claudia]

Never heard of it. That's insane.

[Jackie]

Small town Murder.

[Claudia]

Okay.

[Jackie]

And Views with David, Joe Brick and Jason Nash. And that's it.

[Claudia]

Views. Views is that of all time. Because that show has been off the.

[Jackie]

Air for five years, which is also interesting. Their grandfather.

[Claudia]

There was, there was a time where that show at the peak of like right before the whole scandal when David like would release a vlog and like the world shifted that I imagine they probably crushed it on the podcast. And that's why Jason Nash, who was like kind of left unemployed after David Dobrik decided to take some time off. That's why he's like always begging David to bring it back. And they did just decide to bring it back. Like, did you see David Dobrik dropped a new vlog?

[Jackie]

No, I didn't see David Dobrik dropped a new vlog.

[Claudia]

I. I did actually. And I watched it and I, I didn't hit the same. Obviously. It was also like different shtick. Like they, it was like a year long project that they. Whatever. Honestly.

[Jackie]

And it was still 420.

[Claudia]

No, exactly. I'm not gonna bother explaining it to you. Like, it was just, it was just a vlog. But I think he's actively coming back to vlogging and now the podcast. So I do wonder if the podcast will be as successful. I. It was so big at the time.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

Yeah. Very interesting group of podcasts. I wouldn't have.

[Jackie]

Right.

[Claudia]

Kind of. Kind of some sleeper podcasts at this point.

[Jackie]

There are so many Spotify exclusive podcasts. Like I.

[Claudia]

Wait, what about Smart List?

[Jackie]

What about Armchair excellent expert, Aren't they Spotify exclusive?

[Claudia]

See, Smart List is huge. But they weren't Spotify exclusive. But still, I would have assumed they would have made It.

[Jackie]

Right. Because they're so big, apparently.

[Claudia]

But to be armchair expert. No. And by the way, Smart List doesn't do video, so they really don't split up their audience that much. It's usually just like Apple or Spotify, so that's kind of like, interesting to know. And then armchair expert being Spotify exclusive, like, people were forced to listen to it on Spotify. That's really shocking.

[Jackie]

Okay.

[Claudia]

Flop.

[Jackie]

And same archetypes. I'm sure you're shocked by that.

[Claudia]

Oh, sure.

[Jackie]

Josh.

[Claudia]

And yeah, yes, I do find this interesting. Although I don't know if other people do.

[Jackie]

I don't know if other people do, but. New goal, new manifestation. Next year's podcast. Yeah, next year's PMAs.

[Claudia]

I'm actually going to reach out to our Spotify rep who I spoke to last week. She was like, like asking because they were like not uploading our episodes. How far off we are.

[Jackie]

Yeah, let's find out.

[Claudia]

Yeah. I'm not gonna share it. I'm not gonna share if it's not good.

[Jackie]

No, no. Oh, no. We wouldn't share externally, just internally. And then we would s O.

[Claudia]

And I have, you know, all these empty.

[Jackie]

You.

[Claudia]

I have all these empty walls to. To hang my accolades.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

In my new studio.

[Jackie]

We need our PMAs.

[Claudia]

Let's say a little prayer that this episode worked. Say a little prayer for you. We're gonna wrap up so we can try and get this episode uploaded. Thank you guys so much for listening to the just Monday morning show. We deliver the fastest stories you need to every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So if you're watching us on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe and give this video a thumbs up. We're also available as a podcast anywhere. Podcast can be found everywhere. Public radio, I heard a castbox. All the places podcasting faster view about a beautiful signing and weekly down. There we are.

[Jackie]

Love ya. Bye. Let's try for a heart. I'm doing it like you. You do something and I'm going to copy you. I don't know why we can't like actually try.

[Claudia]

Move over. Move over.

[Jackie]

Which way?

[Claudia]

Cuz to towards the armrest. Like, you see our armrest is still in frame. You see like hover above the edge of the armrest more. Oh.

[Jackie]

Oh, yeah. Wow. Okay, Okay.