No, I'm Shy: Wednesday, January 7th, 2026

Summary

The Toast – Episode Summary:
Episode Title: No, I'm Shy
Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry
Date: January 7, 2026
Podcast: The Toast (Dear Media)

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Episode Overview

This lively episode of The Toast with Jackie and Claudia Oshry celebrates the first “Hump Day” of the year with trademark cozy banter, pop culture deep-dives, family talk, and the latest in celeb drama. The show bounces between hilarious personal anecdotes, sisterly debates, and sharp commentary on trending stories—especially the ongoing “celebrity mom group” saga and headlines from the world of reality TV and social media influencers.

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Key Segments & Discussion Points

1. Opening Vibes: Sibling Energy and Fashion

• [00:24–01:13] The sisters kick things off by noting their matching blue outfits, playfully insisting this wasn't planned— “We're both wearing blue. I told you, I keep it cash. On a Wednesday.”
• Casual Hump Day energy: Jackie lauds the midweek wardrobe switch (“Jackie does casual Wednesdays”), and Claudia references “Devil Wears Prada”-style color trends (Cerulean shoutout).

2. Parenthood, “Milestones”, and Newborn Debates

• [02:11–04:46] Claudia marks her baby Max’s two-month milestone.
• Refreshingly honest confessions about not tracking baby milestones for later children:
  • “I didn't even do those for Harry. Like, I'm so. I've forgiven myself.” – Claudia [02:30]
  • Jackie and Claudia discuss the guilt-tripping pressure of monthly “blanket and block” photos: “It feels very stage mom, too.”
• They spiral into the semantics of the “newborn” period, consulting internet and AI for an answer (“I thought it was 12 weeks… chat says four weeks. OK, that's wrong.”).
  • “Chad is getting so dumb. I'm actually about like, thinking about making the switch...I've heard good things about Grok.” – Jackie [05:29–05:36]

3. Sister Banter & Pop Culture References

• [06:44–10:16] Bunny trails include:
  • Hair, cowlicks, and the “Jesus look.”
  • Iconic comedy sketches (MADtv, Key & Peele)
  • “Alfalfa energy” becomes a metaphor for confidence and being unfazed by imperfections:
    • “Because one thing about Alfalfa, he didn't give a fuck, and he was not a shallow person, or else he would have slicked his fucking hair back.” – Jackie [09:53]

4. Geopolitical Tangents: Puerto Rico, Hawaii, Alaska

• [10:28–13:37] An unexpectedly spirited, tongue-in-cheek discussion on statehood and US territories:
  • “What do you think about the annexation of Puerto Rico?” – Claudia [10:28]
  • Jackie: “I don't think that's necessary. And I don't think they want that either.”
  • Hawaii’s separation is debated (“I could see why [Hawaiians wouldn’t want statehood]...”).
  • Alaska chat ends with a Sarah Palin memory: “Until us, nobody talks about the cultural impact of Sarah Palin on, like, the Alaskan people.” – Jackie [12:29]
  • Bristol Palin’s pregnancy as a cultural moment.

5. Sister Dynamics: Shy vs. Outgoing

• [14:51–16:16] Claudia comes out as “shy” after Jackie needles her for avoiding a wild social scenario:
  • “I'm shy. Hi, I'm shy. What's your name?” – Claudia [15:53]
  • They riff on the evolving dynamic of who’s truly the shy sister:
    • Jackie: “I never would have…that I am less shy than you.”
    • Claudia: “Yeah, yeah. You guys, I'm shy...” [15:37, 15:41]

6. Fast Five News – Pop Culture & Celebrity Hot Topics

6.1. Celebrity Mom Group Drama

• [21:45–28:02]
  • Recap of Ashley Tisdale’s “mom group” essay, and Matthew Coma (Hilary Duff’s husband) biting back via social media.
  • Jackie: “I kind of get the ick. Like, I appreciate because we did need to know…” [23:29]
  • Debate about the etiquette of spouses jumping into public “women’s issues.”
  • Claudia, switching sides upon reflection: “I would love to see Ben step up and call them the most insufferable person on earth. I would respect that.” [26:28]
  • Real Housewives analogy about why husbands usually avoid the drama: “If the husband stuck up for their wives, every time someone called them a mean name, it would be the house husband.” – Jackie [27:17]
  • Side drama: Hilary and Haylie Duff’s ongoing rift, and Haylie siding (via social media likes) with Tisdale.

6.2. Gwyneth Paltrow’s “Conscious Uncoupling” Fallout

• [29:45–33:38]
  • Gwyneth reveals being quietly fired from a film after her conscious uncoupling with Chris Martin:
    • “I was supposed to do a movie at one point and it was…right after the conscious uncoupling thing…it was like: this might be too hot to touch.” – Gwyneth Paltrow [30:41]
  • Jackie admits to dropping her Amy Poehler podcast “hater card” after listening to this episode.
  • They defend Gwyneth’s trendsetting in wellness and co-parenting: “She was ahead of her time, mature queen.”
  • Compare “conscious uncoupling” to the Smiths’ “entanglement.”

6.3. Ex-NFL Player Sues Influencer Ex-wife Over Penis Size Comments

• [33:39–38:00]
  • Matt Khalil sues ex-wife / influencer Haley for comments about his oversized anatomy “ending” their marriage.
  • Claudia: “I could see him, like, being upset about it being an invasion of privacy, even though, like, Net. Net, it’s a positive for him.” [36:14]
  • Dive into parasocial relationships, TikTok, and people airing relationship dirty laundry.

6.4. Kyle Richards & Mauricio Umansky: Divorce and Reunion Rumors

• [43:48–47:17]
  • Reunion speculation after the estranged couple were spotted being friendly at a New Year’s Eve party.
  • Reexamine early RHOBH seasons for hints of trouble: “The way Mauricio was looking at the assistant, the hairs, the girl in the room, I was like, like, that would go viral now.” – Claudia [44:16]
  • Jackie: “There was a reason why Alison Dubois said, your husband will never emotionally fulfill you.” [45:12]
  • Conclude: they likely aren’t reuniting, but are on good terms.

6.5. Business News: Warner Bros. Rejects Paramount’s Takeover Bid

• [47:20–52:16]
  • Paramount’s “Skydance” offers $30 per share for Warner Bros. Discovery; Warner says the Netflix deal is still better.
  • Jackie explains why, in a publicly traded company, they’re legally bound to pick the best offer for shareholders:
    • “They have to accept it. And so they're saying that it's not better...but, like, someone's lying. Who is it?” [48:02]
  • The segment devolves into a delightful Jackie story about witnessing a bank robbery and learning the true meaning of “red money,” complete with Law & Order-style witness reporting skills.
    • “All of a sudden, all this money starts pouring onto the street. It's like, it was a windy day blowing in the street. All the money is red, and it has a big hole cut out in the middle…” [49:11]
  • Fun digressions into city life, Dwayne Reed anecdotes, and a sibling jacket-stealing dispute for good measure.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “It feels very stage mom, too.”
  — Jackie [03:06], on posed baby milestone photos
• “Because one thing about Alfalfa, he didn't give a fuck, and he was not a shallow person, or else he would have slicked his fucking hair back.”
  — Jackie [09:53], about Alfalfa in Little Rascals
• “Chad is getting so dumb. I'm actually about like, thinking about making the switch...I've heard good things about Grok.”
  — Jackie [05:29]
• “I'm shy. Hi, I'm shy. What's your name?”
  — Claudia [15:53], riding the episode’s running “shy” joke
• “Sometimes a friendship doesn't serve you because you find someone annoying, you find them stupid, you find them whatever. And it's clear that they found her self centered. Very Sharpay of her.”
  — Jackie [27:38], re: Ashley Tisdale drama
• “Money’s money. You know, money’s green…unless it’s red.”
  — Claudia & Jackie, before the famous “red money” story [49:01]
• “Don't rob. That's not the lesson I want to leave you guys with. Robbing is actually bad. I've witnessed so many robberies.”
  — Jackie [52:43], closing out a tangent with humor

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Tone & Style

The episode is a whirlwind of sarcasm, playful sibling rivalry, “girl chat” and unfiltered pop culture takes. Jackie and Claudia remain delightfully off-script, weaving their personal lives with the week’s cultural flashpoints, and never missing a chance for a joke (“am I being crazy?”). They’re self-aware about their roles as “big sister/host,” frequently lampooning podcasting tropes and their own audience’s preferences (“I just, like, want to give the people what they want!”).

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [02:11–04:46] — Baby milestone/parenthood confessions & newborn debate
• [09:53] — Iconic “Alfalfa” quote about self-confidence
• [14:51–16:16] — Shyness confessions and shifting sister dynamics
• [21:45–28:02] — Ashley Tisdale vs. Hilary Duff “mom group” saga
• [29:45–33:38] — Gwyneth Paltrow talk (“conscious uncoupling”)
• [33:39–38:00] — Ex-NFL star/Influencer lawsuit over personal disclosures
• [43:48–47:17] — Kyle & Mauricio relationship rumors
• [47:20–52:16] — Paramount/Warner Bros. business news & “red money” anecdote
• [52:49–54:00] — Robbery stories, jackets, and family humor

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Conclusion

The Toast’s “No, I’m Shy” is a warm, laughter-filled ride through modern womanhood — balancing relatable real talk on parenting and siblinghood with razor-sharp pop culture analysis. Whether you’re invested in celebrity spats, nostalgic for Little Rascals, or just here for stories about red-stained money on Third Avenue, Jackie and Claudia keep the energy high, the conversation authentic, and the sisterly shade coming.

Transcript

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Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast.

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It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host.

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It's your favorite show.

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The best five things you need to know.

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We'll start your day off swirly. It's the Toast.

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They sound amazing.

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Welcome back to the Toast and happy Hump Day. First hump day of the new year. I hope everybody's feeling especially humpy. Get your pillow humping saddles, because it's Jackie.

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Hey, Jax, how you doing? Hey, Koji. I'm doing good. We are once again simpatico today.

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You guys, we are not planning this. We're both wearing blue.

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We're both wearing blue. I told you, I keep it cash. On a Wednesday. I'm wearing this new cute sweater I got.

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Some people do casual Fridays.

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Jackie does casual Wednesdays.

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Right.

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That's when I need a break in my week from all the formality, all the collars.

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You are wearing a collar, but okay.

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It's a colored sweatshirt.

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It's like a quarter Z.

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And I feel cozy.

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You look cozy.

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You look gorgey. Thank you so much. I love that we're on the same wavelength of blue.

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Yeah. Cerulean.

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It's a blue sort of day.

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You were wearing a sweater handpicked by the people. Handpicked for you by the people in this room.

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I love that. For me. Yeah.

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I feel like this actually is what Meredith. Whatever her name was talking about. Priestly. Like, I'm wearing a blue shirt from Amazon. And at one point, this blue was handpicked for me by the people in that room.

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Knowing the fact that we think it's a coincidence that we're just wearing this blue when so many decisions and people went into the fact that we're both wearing this blue today.

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1000%. That will go down in history as, like, one of the greatest reads of all time. That and Portia.

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Kenya Moore.

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No. Why? Can't. Why? Am I having a stroke? Phaedra.

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Phaedra. To Kenya.

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Right? So you could have a child. So he could get a Coke. Like, literally read of the century. There's a couple in the hall of fame. Oh, of course. Pretty much. I would let Gemma know.

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That's probably number one.

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Yeah, definitely.

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Hall of fame part.

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Yeah. We could do a whole episode on that Patreon.

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Love that.

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Today's Wednesday. We've got great stories. Matthew Comas putting his foot in the celebrity mom saga. Officially making it not fun. What other the stories. Just like Gwen is on a podcast that's always good bits and bobs.

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My, like, headline news today. Of, like, my personal life is that Max is two months old today.

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Oh, my God. Okay, let's take a trip down memory lane.

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It's funny how you really stop, like, counting weeks and months when, you know, after, like, second baby, third baby, just like, yeah, less and less. Someone.

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Are you doing pictures like, oh, no.

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I didn't even do those for Harry. I didn't either. I started doing them for Harry, like, the first month, second month, and then I dropped off, and it, like, made me feel really guilty that I didn't do it and knowing that I would never have done that, like, for a second, maybe third baby. Like, why would I. Like, I'm so. I've forgiven myself.

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It's a new mom thing. Like, if you're going to do it, you're only going to do it with your first. But I'm glad to know you didn't do it either.

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I didn't do it. I have a couple pictures for, like, month one, month two. They do nothing for me. Like, they're not. Like, I have better pictures of just.

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Like, them at the beach.

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Like, like, the milestones, like, to get them to pose on the blanket, like, it's very difficult.

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It feels very stage mom, too.

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Remember where you put all, like, the circles that you're going to put around to remember where the blanket is on the day? Not for me.

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Yeah, okay, I'm glad.

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But the other day, like, someone asked me, like, how many weeks Max was, and I'm like, seven, eight joggers. I don't know.

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I think he's joggers years old.

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I think he is joggers years old. And also, you know how the bump app, when you're done being pregnant, like, it starts giving you your toddler baby is one week old, two weeks old. Because I went flex past my due date, and I never updated the bump app like, they were sending. They just assumed I gave birth on my due date, and they were, like, sending me, like, his gestational. Gestational age, like, on the wrong day. So I was like, between weeks.

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So just, like, kind of advanced.

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So today I get to, like, call it two months. Zach actually reminded me.

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Right, of course.

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Like, happy months.

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You're a business owner. You're a mother. Like, you can't remember every date.

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But yeah, two months is major.

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Major. Well, congrats on making it two months.

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Thank you.

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That's also, like, I used to be like, okay, yeah, the baby's two months. I have breastfed for two months. That's the real milestone.

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Yes, it is a Fabulous milestone.

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Congrats.

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And yeah, two months.

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Huge.

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Yeah, it's, it's not the biggest one. Like three months is a really big one.

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Well, actually two months. They do say technically, like the newborn phase is eight weeks. That's what people say.

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Oh, I've heard 12 weeks. Three months.

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I thought it was 12 weeks. Three months, obviously. But you're only considered a newborn at like the eight weeks.

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No, but eight weeks is a milestone. Like in life in for baby. But no newborn stage is three months. Everything is like zero to three.

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I'm just letting you know what I.

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Also if it's the fourth trimester, the trimesters are roughly 12 weeks.

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Simply letting you know what I heard.

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Simply letting you know the misinformation that.

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You won't happen again to you guys. I'm not the only person who says this. I can't wait for the comments to be like, no, I heard that too. Like I'm telling you. I, I, it's like what people say.

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On this huge platform while the bump app didn't say it like, you're no longer a newborn.

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Should we ask chat?

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Okay, let's settle this with chat. Even though our if we both put it into chat, how long is a.

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Baby considered a newborn for?

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It probably give us different answers.

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Wow.

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What?

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A baby is considered a newborn from birth until 28 days. Four weeks.

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OK, four weeks.

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So one to three months is often called an infant. And then three to 12 is still an infant but no longer a newborn. So three being the pediatricians use four weeks. Okay, that's wrong.

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Okay, so you didn't understand the question.

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Yeah, Chad is getting so dumb. I'm actually about like, thinking about making the switch.

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2.

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I've heard good things about Grok.

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Is there a Grok app or there is a question.

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No, that's the thing. I always thought Grok was like a part of Twitter. I'm like, okay, well, I'm not gonna like, tweet out my thoughts. That'd be so embarrassing. Like, what is one plus three? So then I heard Grok has as an extra app, like something separate is what I heard.

[B]

Okay. Yeah, try it.

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What are you doing?

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I'm hearing like a little echo.

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Oh, I thought you were messing with my headphones.

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No, I would never do that too. I know how important your headphones are to you.

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Well, yeah, they are.

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I'm hearing a little echo.

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I think maybe you're just like having like postpartum paranoia.

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I just am hearing a vibration on the table maybe. Or just like, am I Screaming. You're shaking the roof off this place.

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Am I screaming? No.

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I mean, if I'm the only one, then ignore me. Maybe I should put my headphones on.

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Maybe she's experiencing postpartum psychosis. Even though I was.

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I've heard it starts at two months. Even though I was, like, feeling my hair do.

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No, you look super cute. Don't put the headphones on. Like.

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Okay, she said don't put the headphones on.

[A]

It's actually a crazy thing to, like, make a major change to your look in the middle of the podcast. Because we look at the monitors before we're comfortable. Even if we don't love it. Like, we know it. It's familiar to make a big shift, like putting your hair up or taking your hair down in the middle of the podcast. It's just not done.

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Okay? So I'm not gonna do it. I'm gonna ignore whatever I'm hearing. The voices in my head.

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Listen. Just a little schizophrenia, you know? Yeah.

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But it's there.

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It's.

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They're real.

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It's kind of like the Lord. It's always with you.

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Like, you, Jesus.

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Yeah. So I have this thing where, like. And most of the time, I wear my hair down. Middle part. Like, most of my hair in front. And when I try to, like, describe this, Luke, it's not, like, a style. And I call it the Jesus look because this is how Jesus Christ wore his hair. Straight. Middle part. I have a cowlick. The only thing.

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Hair in front.

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It's only thing separating me and Jesus.

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Like, behind the ear.

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Yeah. The only thing separating me from Jesus is I have a cowlick and he doesn't. So I'm like. That's what's stopping me from having a perfect middle part.

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A perfect Jesus look.

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Right.

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Where's your cowlick?

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Oh, you don't know about my cowlick?

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In the back.

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Yeah. So, like, I would say the first two thirds of my part are dead center, straight, and then the back.

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Don't look at the ways.

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Do not look at the back of my part. I don't look at the back of my part. It's none of my business.

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It goes sideways. The back of your head is none of your business. If God wanted you to see it, he make it visible to you.

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Right. He would give me eyes over there.

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He'd give you eyes in the back of your head.

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What is that from? The back of your head is ridiculous.

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Like a sketch.

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Yeah, but, like, from what show? Like, something not snl.

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Can I have your number? Yeah.

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What's The.

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It's.

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It's like Mad.

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Mad tv. Mad. Yeah. Okay.

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Okay.

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Good job.

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That was everything to me growing up.

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Like, was it?

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Oh, man, that sketch.

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You were watching MAD TV.

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No, I was watching that sketch on YouTube.

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That's so funny. As a young child.

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Not me, like, quoting Mad tv. I've never seen that show.

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And also, like, Key and Peele.

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I've never seen that either.

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But people always like, Aaron. J. Quen.

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Yeah. You are that skit, Aaron. Like, you read things phonetically. Like, you read things phonetically. So that. Yeah, like, toast. Welcome to the toast, Aaron.

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Yeah.

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There's a Key and Peel sketch.

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Ben was like, J. Quellen.

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You're J. Qu. I'm a Claudia. Claudia.

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You can't really that up.

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You could. No, yeah.

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I'm saying as a upper.

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Yeah.

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Claudia's pretty straightforward, Aaron. I love that. Yeah.

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Whitney, Layoff it. Correct. Taylor. Different.

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Yeah.

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This is such a phonetic show.

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It is. It's hooked on Bonnie.

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Why are you looking at me like that?

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I don't know.

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You are looking at me weird, right?

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I'm not. I just, like, have a lot going on. I put on headphones.

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Yeah.

[B]

Is everything okay? Are we still stable?

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It's giving the integrated interf today. Like, you're being weird.

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I'm not, but it had my headphones looked without. Like, I just, you know, I don't like to talk about the show so much. Like, I actually agree with that. Like, my favorite thing.

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You look gorgeous.

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That's why I was just trying to, like, wing it. I feel blind.

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It was crazy for you to put the headphones on in the middle of the show.

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I feel like a blind person. Okay.

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Should we turn the monitor on and.

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Like, just to take a look? Even though I don't really care about, like, my looks on the show right now, because if I did, I would be.

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We can't be in a place very unhappy. Right? We can't be in a place where we can't.

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But I do, like, want to make sure I them not Alfalfa.

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You're not Alfalfa. You don't have, like, a big hair sticking out of your head.

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Alfalfa is such a good reference.

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Agreed. What is that? Little Rascals.

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Yeah. Okay. Adorable.

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Yeah. Anybody who's ever had, like, one hair out of place is an Alfalfa. Alfalfa energy this year.

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You know, Alfalfa ate with that.

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Because one thing about Alfalfa, he didn't give a fuck, and he was not a shallow person, or else he would have slicked his fucking hair back.

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Yeah. You know, but I think, like, the sprout was the look.

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I also think the sprout was symbolic, like a metaphorical sprout. Because he was constantly blooming where he was planted. And he was a leader.

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Yeah. A leader in his community.

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A role model for young men today.

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And those rascals needed leadership.

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That movie's really good. Little Rascals.

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It is.

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I get it confused with Little Giants, which Olivia's family is obsessed with. I don't think I've seen that one.

[B]

You have. The annexation of Puerto Rico.

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Oh, the annexation of Puerto Rico. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Always a slay.

[A]

Constantly. What do you think about the annexation of Puerto Rico?

[B]

You mean in terms of your political.

[A]

Your geopolitical ideologies?

[B]

I feel like whatever situation we have now, like, seems to be working for everyone.

[A]

And when you say the annexation of Puerto Rico, what does that mean? Like, they're on their own. They're no longer with us.

[B]

No, no, no. We would annex them completely. They would be a state.

[A]

Oh, no, I don't think that's necessary. And I don't think they want that either.

[B]

Do they pay taxes?

[A]

No. That's why the Paul brothers live there.

[B]

So what do. What does the US Gain from their partnership?

[A]

I know US Citizens can travel to that beautiful place without a passport. That's definitely huge.

[B]

That's major.

[A]

I think there's, you know, some trade. Some trade. And then I actually recently had lunch. Not recently, like 10 years ago. Had lunch with a native Puerto Rican. And she was explaining that, like, they don't want it either. They're happy with the way that it is. Like, it's good.

[B]

It seems like everybody's happy. Yeah.

[A]

It's not like something that gets talked about a lot.

[B]

Yeah. So let's, like, let sleeping dogs lie.

[A]

Viva Puerto Rico. You know, as I'm always saying.

[B]

So we will not annex Puerto Rico any further. Q Ray then has already been annexed.

[A]

There is chat about annexing Hawaii.

[B]

Hawaii is a state.

[A]

Oh, sorry. Anti annexing. What's the opposite? Deannex.

[B]

Deannex.

[A]

Like, when you just, like, I love her. Set them free. There's chatter about that on TikTok, and I think the people of Hawaii are actually down. Like, they do not want to be a part anymore.

[B]

I could understand that.

[A]

And then when you look at a map and I only recently learned how random the location of Hawaii is and how, like, not with us, they are, and I, you know, I would be down for that.

[B]

Like.

[A]

And I have no steak if that's what they want. Like, I think they'll probably be good.

[B]

I would be open to the idea because geographically, it doesn't make a ton of sense. Same. Let's talk about Alaska.

[A]

Yeah, but I just feel like the people in Alaska are very much the elk of Americans. And I feel like the people of Hawaii, like, they never really wanted to be with us. And they're. They've, like, they speak their own language of their own culture. I don't know the backstory, but something about it, like, does make sense.

[B]

But Alaska, you know, is geographically closer to Russia.

[A]

Yeah, but I don't know. Until us, nobody talks about the cultural impact of Sarah Palin on, like, the Alaskan people, because to me, Alaska is so American. Like, somebody from Alaska was almost vice president. You know what I mean?

[B]

Like, oh, I thought you were going to say, because she put us on to the fact that they're close to Russia. When she said she could see Russia.

[A]

From her window 1000%, that actually was crazy.

[B]

If she could see Russia, like, wound up being, like, kind of applicable a couple of years ago when, like, Russia was in the mix again. Because it's like, wait, part of.

[A]

Let's go to Sarah's house to see what's happening.

[B]

Part of us, The US Is very close to Russia and at risk of Russian retaliation.

[A]

Right. And then I feel like I wasn't old enough to really understand at the time how crazy it was that Bristol Palin got pregnant during that time. Time.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That was shocking.

[B]

That was a cultural shift.

[A]

It was. And I didn't really understand it. I still don't.

[B]

But what's to understand, like, how crazy.

[A]

It was, but, like, at the time when her mom was running for vice president. Is that right? And I feel like it was an episode of Veep, like, when they all found out, like, they were probably freaking.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So that's your geopolitical segment for the day. Can't wait to read all the comment hate comments coming from Hawaii. Hawaii is, like, a very touchy subject.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah. At least it is on Tick Tock.

[B]

I could understand. I could see why. And I don't know enough about it to touch on it in the touchiness.

[A]

All I know is that I stand with the people of. And don't call it Hawaii.

[B]

Hawaii.

[A]

Hawaii. Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Okay. Well, I support. I support.

[A]

I also support you. I support us. I support the past five, and that's my segue for today.

[B]

You want to get into the stories?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay, let's get into. No, I do. I just, like, know how Much love there is for the pre fast five banter. And as a people pleaser, I just, like, want to give the people what they want.

[A]

Let's keep going.

[B]

But when I reflect on what more I have to give to the pre fast five banter, nothing, like, really comes to mind.

[A]

I personally had shifted because I was running on empty, like, talking about Bristol Balen. Okay, so if you do want to continue it, you are just going to have to, like, tell me what you want to talk about.

[B]

I'm going to have to go in on my own.

[A]

No, no, no. I'll be there for you, but you are going to have to, like, provide the. The topics for sure.

[B]

Now, it's just, like, a lot of pressure that, like, what I have to say is more interesting than the fast five. But you know what? I feel like, as always, the fast five are a conduit to more banter, a gateway. And if there's anything that comes up, I will feel free to use my voice and my platform and make mention of it.

[A]

And I know you're always feeling shy, so don't, like, just.

[B]

You're shy, you guys.

[A]

No, no.

[B]

I recently discovered. No, that's it. That's all I'm gonna say. Okay. That Claudia is shy.

[A]

Okay, sure, fine. You know what?

[B]

Guilty. I've always been the one who's worn my shyness on my sleeve. Like, I'm always like, I'm shy. And I mean that. Like, I am shy. I recently learned about my sister that she is shy.

[A]

Okay, yeah, I'm shy. Jackie wants to throw me into, like, the most craziest social situation. And then I was like, I kind of don't want to. And she was like, you're shy. Like, okay, sure.

[B]

What happened?

[A]

I'm shy. Sure. I don't want to get into it because I'm sure. You know what?

[B]

You're too shy to get into it.

[A]

Yeah, I'm shy. I'm shy, everyone. Claudia, shy. You got me. I'm the big shy girl.

[B]

I never would have.

[A]

Just call me shy.

[B]

That I am less shy than you.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. You guys, I'm shy. Like, after all these years, how you don't know that about me is insane.

[B]

You. So you agree?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You're really shy?

[A]

Yeah, I'm shy.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I'm shy. Hi, I'm shy. What's your name?

[B]

Less shy.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Less shy.

[B]

Shy.

[A]

But yeah, I'm so shy.

[B]

I mean, my whole life I've described you. I'm like my sister Claudia. She's so outgoing. Oister is like life.

[A]

And all of this because Jackie, like was encouraging me to like do something so insane. And by the way, I did it. We can't get into the details.

[B]

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[A]

Mom Talk 2.0. This is like mom talk for people on reels.

[B]

This is mom talk for celebrities. That's what I said yesterday.

[A]

No, but like the content, it's like for people on rails.

[B]

It's not on TikTok. I feel like I'm missing stuff on TikTok. No, Sammy Ryan like posted a tick tock.

[A]

Who's that?

[B]

She's the member of the mom group with tattoos.

[A]

Oh, what did she say?

[B]

And she was like lip syncing to Meg the Stallion. Like fuck you.

[A]

Hyping herself up.

[B]

Yeah, you're the worst.

[A]

I love that, Love that.

[B]

Just kidding. But it was like Megan the Stallion lyric that was like, cut it. Clapping back perhaps. I don't know. Now Matthew Coma is responding to Ashley Tisdale's toxic mom group essay with a clapback of his own. He posted.

[A]

For those who don't know, Matthew Coma.

[B]

Is Hilary Duff's husband, Hillary Duff's husband. He's like a music wonder, allegedly. He's always in the news for things that he says. He's very opinionated.

[A]

Yeah, I feel like we're always talking about him. Not like as regards to his work, but just he's always like starting stuff. He loves to be snappy. He uses social media. I feel like a lot of the times where Hillary can't speak or won't speak, she speaks through him. Because I have to imagine what he posted was sanctioned by Hill.

[B]

Well, I don't think she could stop him, but like I do. No, I don't think so. Like you can't stop Matthew Coma. He really pops off often.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And here he goes again. He posted a picture of himself and like photoshopped a fake headline on top that like looked like the Cut article and said when you're the most self obsessed, tone deaf person on earth, other moms tend to shift focus to their actual toddlers. So it seems as though he's calling Ashley Tisdale the most self obsessed, tone deaf person on earth and other. And that's why started leaving her out because they were focusing their shift to their actual toddlers.

[A]

Now this kind of feels like what we said yesterday. Like they just weren't vibing with her and they decided to move on. And so up until this point, I was very much like, team the other women. But something about like your husband stepping in, like, this is very much like a women's issue. I kind of get the ick. Like, I appreciate because we did need to know. We really did.

[B]

I appreciate the clarity. And Cam Tisdale seems to be backtracking.

[A]

Yes, big time.

[B]

This is about another mom group that Ashley's in, not the celebrity mom group, even though she literally doesn't follow half of them on Instagram now. They were like best friends forever. They all went to Ojai. I learned more about the situation after the episode yesterday. Looking at like, who the people are and the girls who, like, I would think, think would be like the mean ones in this situation. There was like one girl, I'm like, oh, it's totally her. She doesn't follow them. So, like, obviously there's bad blood. Now her publicist is trying to say, no, it's a different group. Wait, so she has bad blood with two groups? That's weird, right? And Matthew com is bringing it back to say, no, no, no. This is the Hillary Duff group and it's very much Duff v. Tisdale.

[A]

The Tisdale response is so strange because it's clear, like, all she wanted was attention about this story. She wrote about it not once, but twice, posted about it like multiple times, and she got the attention that she wanted. Now we're all looking into what she's saying and the results aren' I think she had hoped because I don't think most people are on her side. So now she's backtracking. It's like very weird pick me behavior. And I'm getting the vibe that, like, as we predicted, she definitely seems insufferable. That's what Matthew Coma is kind of saying to us. But it already didn't like, feel like so much like a fair fight because it's like all the girls against one. And now like, her husband's getting involved. It feels like housewives. Like, when the husband gets involved and like nobody else's husband involved. It gives me the ick. I don't know. I'm not, like, loving. I like that Matthew Coma responded and, like, confirmed, like, yes, this is about this group, and they left her because she sucks. But I don't know. When a boy gets involved, it's like, what are you doing here?

[B]

I agree. Like, pick on someone your own size. Like, men and women's sports.

[A]

Agreed. This is a man in women's sports. It's true. Like, it's just not for you. And I feel like the second he got involved, at first I thought I was like, oh, juicy. And then the more I sat with it, I'm like, I'm no longer having fun.

[B]

Yeah. I appreciated the initial juice.

[A]

And you know what? Like, I just. This came from Hillary. Like, I don't agree with you that, like, anything he posts is not sanctioned by her. Like, she's so famous, so she was okay with it.

[B]

I don't think she, like, wrote it herself. I think. No, no.

[A]

He was like, babe, I'm post this. And she was like, sure, whatever. I literally don't think she cares. And I just wish, like, if they were going to respond, like, one of the women respond, it would have gotten just.

[B]

Ryan seems to have.

[A]

Yeah. But in a very thinly veiled way. Like, a lot you could say, like, oh, I just like this song.

[B]

Just like we were talking about Brianna Chicken Fry.

[A]

Right. You can mastermind a lip sync. Doesn't. This is a very clear. It's a cut. It's clearly about. And so I just wish someone else had posted it. That's, like, the only thing up until this point I was, like, writing for the other girls.

[B]

Feel like devil's advocate for Coma's advocate here. Like, if someone is trashing your wife, don't you feel like it could be a husband's responsibility to step in and, like, defend your wife?

[A]

I do.

[B]

Because someone was, like, writing articles about you and how you hurt their feelings.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I would love to see Ben step up and call them the most insufferable person on earth. I would respect that.

[A]

Okay. That's actually true. Yeah. And I actually think that's a great example because, like, Hillary's super famous and, like, Matthew's famous, but, like, less very similar to men and I. So the dynamics do apply. No. Sometimes we make a rep, like, analogy, and they. This is a perfect analogy. I am Hilary Duff, like, a podcast.

[B]

Former friend of yours who's a woe. And now she's crying on a press tour. Crying. What I did about her feelings.

[A]

Yeah. And, like, no, Ben has to get in there and check that out.

[B]

Like you're too big and too famous and like you're not going to respond to this.

[A]

It's beneath me. Sad little, but it's not beneath my less famous husband.

[B]

Yeah. And like men should stick up for their wives.

[A]

No, you know what? You're 100% right. Something about like men getting involved in women fighting the Housewives fan in me.

[B]

Well, the thing is you can apply it to housewives. Actually, that's, that's really great that you bring that up because the housewives are like have a set of rules that they abide by and it's no husbands because if the husband stuck up for their wives, every time someone call them.

[A]

A mean name, it would be the house husband.

[B]

The house husband.

[A]

No, they, they follow a strict code.

[B]

Of conduct in order to keep the show the show. Husbands can't get involved. Even though you want to, you want to support your life, you can't.

[A]

You're right.

[B]

So it's not Housewives. Okay. Real people's wives.

[A]

Okay. So the ick factor is subsiding. And I'm glad that we were right. Like what he said is what we said yesterday. Sometimes a friendship doesn't serve you because you find someone annoying, you find them stupid, you find them whatever. And it's clear that they found herself centered. Very Sharpay of her.

[B]

So Sharpay coated.

[A]

So Sharpay coated.

[B]

So that's the latest on the drums. Yeah, Check back in tomorrow.

[A]

Yeah. It's a kind of an ever evolving story.

[B]

Yeah. There's so many players, so many social media accounts to post from.

[A]

Well now there's also Haley Duff. So Haley Duff is the chat less famous sister. She liked Ashley Tisdale's post promoting her article on the cut. We know and we've known for years that Hillary and Haley are not on speaking terms. People are led to believe that it has to do with them having different politics. Which would be so crazy. That's never been confirmed by the way.

[B]

Would be like the second allegation of Hillary falling out over politics.

[A]

Right. So it's is Haley and Ashley maga. But Ashley literally said, I'm a registered Democrat. This has nothing to do with politics.

[B]

Yeah. And if it was politics, Matthew Coleman called her most self obsessed.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Tone deaf person on earth.

[A]

He would have said like bigoted, like, you know.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. That doesn't read political.

[A]

No, you're right. But Haley's involvement is curious.

[B]

Yeah. She's obviously anti Hillary and I want.

[A]

To say something like I could be beefing with my sister, like, not on speaking terms for 10 years. You will never find me siding, like, publicly with someone who's beefing with my sister. Like, yeah, I hate you. I'll never talk to you again. But you're still my sister.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So this is, like, a major loser check in the column for Haley Duff. There were already a couple of checks in that column because, like, you know, I don't like this on Haley's part.

[B]

I agree. I don't know what happened.

[A]

Even, like family who's not on speaking terms, there is a line like, you're still family.

[B]

I agree.

[A]

So publicly taking actually, to Stell side, like, I don't like that. And she knew what she was doing when she liked it. Of course, because people are especially, like, Internet sleuths. People are obsessed with the rift between Haley and Hillary.

[B]

How could you not be? I didn't even know that there was a rift. But that's really surprising and saddening.

[A]

It's very sad.

[B]

Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Gwyneth Paltrow says she was fired from a movie after her decision to consciously uncouple from her husband, Chris Martin. So Gwyneth Paltrow went on good hang with Amy Poehler.

[A]

And I want to say I'm kind of, like, doing a 180 on Amy Poehler. I was just, like, a hater of her podcast because, like, you know, we're over here doing this for 10 years. She comes in and gets nominated for a Golden Globe in less than a year. But you know what? Like, the cream rises in podcasting, and everything I see from her podcast is funny. Like, she's obviously. I know she's funny. She's Amy Poehler. But she's a really good podcaster. She gets great guests, and she does with the guests, like, what you want. A lot of people get amazing guests, and it's like, girl, move over. Let me do it. But Amy Poehler, like, she's kind of a delight, and I'm revoking my hater card, and I don't ever hate her. I was just, like, not happy for her success. But you know what? Now I am. And then she had Gwyneth, and any opportunity to make Gwyneth Paltrow, like, be less misunderstood, I'm a big fan of. Because, you know, I started that committee, like, 10 years ago.

[B]

Yes. So Gwyneth Paltrow says her decision to consciously uncouple from her husband bled into her professional life. On the podcast, she said, I was supposed to do a movie at one point and it was like right after the conscious uncoupling thing with Chris, there was a lot of harsh stuff in the press. I think the distributor was like, this might be too hot to touch. She then added, so that was great because I was getting a divorce and then I got fired off. So it was so awesome.

[A]

Did she say that she got fired because she was going through a divorce or because she was getting so much backlash, like from the conscious uncoupling?

[B]

Backlash from conscious uncoupling.

[A]

That's really lame of the movie. And I wish she had said who.

[B]

I would love to know what movie it was.

[A]

She's really good about nicknaming names. She often goes on podcasts and like tells stories using names. So I wonder why she didn't.

[B]

Yeah, conscious uncoupling was another like cultural moment that I, I do feel like sort of missed me. And now when I think about it in hindsight, like, of course that's a crazy way to announce your divorce, but I understand the sentiment.

[A]

And in recent years she has gone back and explained fully. She doesn't backtrack. She's like, no, I said what I said. You guys just didn't understand it. And when she explains it, it's like, oh yeah, that's really nice. Yeah, it's just two people getting divorced who don't hate each other, who are going to make a really conscious effort to remain a family unit. And they've done it successfully. They co parent really well. Like she was ahead of her time. She said that on Shark Tank. Actually her thing is that she's ahead of her time. Yeah, she gets made fun of a lot. Like she was doing gluten free. Grain free actually. No, sorry, gluten free like 10 years ago. And she was like, woo woo. Crazy Gwyneth. Now you can't walk into a restaurant without them having like a gluten free menu. Now she's onto grain free and it's like still, you know, not super and it will be the thing. And one of the shark tank companies was like a grain free. So she's very on the cusp of like a lot of wellness things, a lot of trends and conscious uncoupling. She was just ahead of her time, mature queen.

[B]

You know what it reminds me of, like this sort of fanfare that it had was like entanglement with the Smith. Yes.

[A]

That's a great comparison.

[B]

Right?

[A]

Yeah. And. But I just haven't gotten to like the understanding phase of entanglement.

[B]

Well, it's just like, because like you had an affair.

[A]

But I guess the way she sees it is like she just got entangled in something, like caught up. Honestly, I feel that. Yeah, it almost like, wasn't her fault.

[B]

She was tangled.

[A]

Right. What would you do if you just got tangled up?

[B]

So anyways, per usual justice for Gwyneth.

[A]

Per usual justice for Gwyneth. And Gwyneth is like very. Goes on choice podcasts. And I think it's like a great PR strategy for her because she's slowly becoming much less misunderstood. I think for a while it was like she's out of touch. She's yada yada. But every time she sits down on a podcast, there's like ice chips sort of for people who don't get her, which is not us. Get chipped away. And this was a good one. Like, there were a lot of clips that went viral and a lot of funny moments. She should do more podcasts. I know she has one.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And she does, but it's not about her. It's like she interviews other people.

[B]

Yeah. But she's definitely long form. Like, we. You need to give her.

[A]

She's not space. She can't be put in a box.

[B]

Yeah, she's not. Like one sentence is going to sum it up.

[A]

No. No, she's not.

[B]

There's so much nuance.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Are you ready for our next story? Ex NFL pro Matt Khalil sues his ex wife Haley for saying his penis size ended their marriage. So Matt Cleo was formerly married to influencer Haley Bailey.

[A]

Yeah. Do you know her?

[B]

I do know her.

[A]

She's Tick Tock. Yeah. But she's like, huge now. And she's one of the biggest tiktokers.

[B]

And she's on reels.

[A]

Yeah, of course.

[B]

I've seen a bunch of stuff from her.

[A]

All the big creators are it's the.

[B]

Place to be 100. And she made viral comments about his penis size. She claimed that his large penis size was the biggest factor in their 2022 divorce.

[A]

During she went on like a Twitch.

[B]

Stream on Twitch in November.

[A]

So a lot of people don't know. She has, like, a weird backstory.

[B]

I didn't realize. I knew she, like, was talking about someone's penis size.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I actually just assumed it was like, like negative.

[A]

Right. Okay. So her back.

[B]

And I didn't know her. She was formerly married to an NFL player. But please tell us she started blowing.

[A]

Up on Tick Tock doing, like, funny content. It's like, oh, she's funny and pretty. Like, it was crazy. She's like A former model. I don't think she had, like, a ton of success as a model, and that's why she turned to social media. And she talked a lot about how it was just, like, the worst industry ever. She loves it. She doesn't have to model anymore. And part of her backstory, like, as a model, she was married to an NFL player. Her name is Haley Khalil. People don't realize, like, that's not her born name. That was her husband's married name. And nobody really cared so much about, like, why they got divorced. Like, it's not, like, something that people wonder about her. But she did a twitch stream, and we're just, like, always learning more about her backstory. It's, like, so strange. And she said, like, part of the reason that they got divorced was because they literally could not be intimate. He had the biggest penis ever. And she was like, we tried everything. She wasn't saying it in a salacious way, in a mean way. It was obviously, like, complimentary. But she was like, at a certain point, like, we couldn't be married anymore because we could not have sex. Like, it was just really crazy. I know. It went so viral because, like, it's literally a storyline in Sex in the City. Like, things like this don't happen where Samantha couldn't be that guy because he was just too big. Honestly, you know, I don't know who could be mad, but he's suing her, so that's crazy.

[B]

So he's suing her for invasion of privacy as well as unjust enrichment. TMZ reports claiming she's benefited financially and received a surge in traffic as a result of the comments. He is suing for damages with the amount exceeding over $75,000, according to. In a statement to Page Six, Haley Bailey said the lawsuit is a shock. She said the truth is, in the original live stream, which is still live on Marlin's YouTube account, I speak highly of him in multiple ways throughout that conversation. I'm genuinely shocked and incredibly hurt upon receiving the news of this. Filing litigation is a harrowing and emotionally draining experience, and I'm heartbroken that he is choosing to subject us and our families to this ordinary deal.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, I could see him, like, being upset about it being an invasion of privacy, even though, like, Net. Net, it's a positive for him. This does feel like sort of just like a money grab. I don't know, like, how, like, much money he's making in the NFL. I had never heard of him before this, so maybe it has Something to do with that. Cuz she's like definitely raking it in. She's one of the biggest tiktokers in the world.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And she actually posted a video. I had sent it to you.

[B]

What was it about?

[A]

Like how she just broke up with her boyfriend and she was like, here are all the things like my ex boyfriend did to me. She was dating him for a year and a half. She like won't say his name. It's like so annoying. Like, I wouldn't say, but obviously people know who it is.

[B]

She's like, people do know. You said he was like in her content.

[A]

Yes, yes. And it turns out he was like him. No, turns out he was just like a grifter using her for likes, comments, subscribers. He was like seeing multiple women.

[B]

He was potato.

[A]

Worst boyfriend ever. And she made this video being like, here are all the things that like.

[B]

You know, my boyfriend did that should have been red flags.

[A]

Right. But you wouldn't believe. And when I tell you, you could not waterboard this information out of me. Like the fact that she's telling. She has maybe like 15 million followers telling 15 million people that she stayed with a man for a year and a half who didn't know her middle name halfway through their relationship, who on multiple occasions she had found was like texting, seeing other women. Some of the stuff she was saying, it was so shocking. And it was like, I know it's supposed to reflect poorly on him, but I'm not going to lie. I'm like, and you stayed with him for another year. Like, I can't remember some of the stuff, but I remember sending it to you being like, the way I would never tell anyone this. Like, I would take this information to my grave. Yeah, I could find it and play for you guys, but I'm not the mood.

[B]

Yeah. No, the personal accountability was not in the room. No, that very moment.

[A]

No, it was not.

[B]

You know the things you do for love, Koji.

[A]

So true. I'll do anything for you.

[B]

Yeah. This is like, this is extreme. I. I guess he just like wants her to stop talking about him.

[A]

Okay, that's fair. And he could just send a text next.

[B]

Maybe he did. If they like ended amicably. As she was like saying, and everything's good, but now she certainly will stop talking about him.

[A]

Yeah. It had seemed up until this point like they actually had a really nice quick marriage and a nice quick divorce.

[B]

And when they got married, like they were both famous.

[A]

Like she wasn't famous until. Tick tock.

[B]

You know what this reminds me of, like, Brook Snader and her ex husband. Like, how were you guys married?

[A]

Like, yeah, he's now engaged to Naomi.

[B]

Olinda, I'm obsessed with.

[A]

I know.

[B]

And it's like, when did that happen? How come we didn't see any of that part?

[A]

Which part?

[B]

Just, like, Brooks and.

[A]

Well, she wasn't famous.

[B]

I know, but it's just so crazy and.

[A]

No, I'm sorry. She was famous.

[B]

She was Sports Illustrated.

[A]

She was famous during the, you know, a great part of her marriage. And Billy. Billy, we should have known they would end up divorced, because you would never know she was married. I don't even know if she wore her ring. She never posted a picture of him. I found out she was married, like, through a friend of mine. They were like, you know, she has a husband. I'm like, wait, what? Like, not that she was embarrassed of him, but, like, she was not taking him to events. He was not. Maybe he didn't want to go on the carpet or he wanted to be private, or she, like, was ashamed of him. I don't know. The two people. The second she got a little bit famous, I don't think she wanted anyone to know she was married or it was, like, such a bad marriage. I don't know.

[B]

I don't know. I. We don't know anything. I don't think it was so bad. I think it was just, like, at the time that they got married, they were, like, mostly right for each other and then just, like, completely. Yeah, people change different directions, and maybe, like, the. The lifestyle that he has with Naomi now is, like, more his speed.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I really do ship.

[A]

Me, too.

[B]

And I feel like Brooks would even ship.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It seems like everything was amicable. Like, her dad still, like, likes him and talks to him, you know, Brooks.

[A]

Went on Watch what Happens Live with Eric Jean, and it was like, the best episode of Watch what Happens Live in history. Like, they haven't had a night like that. It was vintage, you know, they were both, like, cursing, and it was just, like, amazing. They were, like, obsessed with one another. I don't think they had ever met before. And I think Andy asked about it. Like, she doesn't know the Bravo lore, but Andy was like, would you ever go out with Craig? And she was like, who's that? Let me just say, I ship.

[B]

Like, ship.

[A]

Yeah. Is that cute? Like, they could swap. I know they could swap. She was like, I have no idea who that is, but, Brooks, like, you need to.

[B]

I love the idea of a wife swap.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I Think it makes so much sense because if A equals B. Yes. Equals C and C equals D, then A equals D. Shania Twain. Yeah. Just think about it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Today's episode of the Toast is brought to you by Haya. Haya are vitamins for kids that kids enjoy eating and they gamify them. They make them so fun for the kids to eat. They like can't wait till high o' clock when they can have their vitamins. And that is great for parents that you can make sure that your kids are getting their vitamins no matter what like their diets are. Some kids don't want to eat their fruits and vegetables and you can supplement with Haya and make it really easy and fun for kids. So everyone's talking about New Year's resolutions, but here's one thing that could impact your family for decades to come. Your kids health. They Haya exists to supplement children's nutrition. Give them the vitamins, minerals, nutrients that they need. They already have vitamin D, B12C, zinc, folate, also all the things that like you take in your own vitamins to supplement your own diet. And that way you don't have to worry, oh, what did my child eat today? Did they get all the vitamins and minerals that they need because they're taking their Haya? And the best part about high is how much the kids love it because it's so tasty. The bottle is so cute. They come with stickers. They just like make it fun for kids and everybody is taking their vitamins. So we love Haya. We got a lot of kids. They need a lot of vitamins and Haya is the best in children's vitamins period. We've worked out a special deal with Haya for their best selling children's vitamin receive 50% off your first order. To claim this deal you must go to Hiya Health.com toast. This deal is not available on their regular website. You go to H I y a H e a l t h.com toast and get your kids the full body nourishment that they need to grow into healthy adults. Today's episode of the Toast is also brought to you by Game time. What time is it? Game time. I am so excited to get back out there, go to concerts, go to sports. Like those are some of my favorite memories in my life are going to live events and Game time makes it so easy to get tickets. So not only is the Game Time app user friendly, they will get you the best prices. It's it is the best hack for unlocking Amazing tickets and experiences in a few taps. It's incredibly easy to use and the game Time guarantee means you can Trust you'll get 100% authentic tickets on time and at the best price. So some of the best features in the app, you get to customize your spot. You can get zone deals. It's an easy way to find and buy concert tickets. I also like using it to find what's going on in my area for, like, discoverability. And I love concerts and I love sports too. This is a sports podcast and I love going to sporting events and I don't love buying tickets all the time because it's not always the easiest. But with the Game Time app, it's like, oh, should we go check out a live event this weekend? Let's go to Game Time. So the Game Time app is the best. It takes the guesswork out of buying concert tickets. Download the Game Time app, create an account and use code toast for 20 off your first purchase terms. Apply again, create an account and redeem Code Toast host T o a s t for $20 off. Swipe, tap, ticket. Go download the Game Time app. Guaranteed today. Are you ready for our fourth story? Am I ready for our fourth story? Yes. So where do Kyle Richards and Mauricio Umansky stand if they're a touchy appearance at a New Year's Eve party? So Mauricio and Kyle were spotted getting chummy, touchy and warm at a New Year's Eve celebration, sparking reconciliation rumors.

[A]

That would be so crazy. When I heard that, I was like.

[B]

Honestly, I would be shocked because so much has happened. So much has happened. And you know what? I wound up weirdly watching a season one episode of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. And I know, like, hindsight is 20 20, but the writing was on the wall.

[A]

Okay, so not like we have definitely romanticized Kyla Mauricio. A lot of people forget those first couple of seasons. There were a lot of cheating allegations. There was.

[B]

She had, like, someone. They were going to a part. The white party was a season one white party. She had like, her assistant or someone was like, doing her hair and, like, the way Mauricio was looking at the assistant, the hairs, the. The girl in the room, I was like, like, that would go viral now.

[A]

Yes. Yes.

[B]

Didn't even register at the time.

[A]

It kind of did, though. Like, people did not, like, ship them. They're like a holy grail, you know, Housewives, royalty couple now. But, like, a lot of people have amnesia. Also, a lot of people are new to the fandom that, like, they forget the magazines. Remember when Lisa Vanderpump made Brandy bring those magazines to Mexico because they had reports of Mauricio cheating on Kyle? So it wasn't this, like, perfect, always forever marriage. Now we look at it like that, especially since they got divorced. And sometimes when you make it so far, it's like, well, everybody.

[B]

Even if he, like, did cheat at those times, like, they worked through it, they got through it, and they're still together and, like, stronger than ever. So, like, if she can forgive, I can forgive, and, like, we can move forward. But I'm just saying, like, even, like, just small details on the show now, in hindsight, I'm like, oh.

[A]

I mean, there was a reason why Alison Dubois said, your husband will never emotionally fulfill you. And it was so.

[B]

I'm sorry. I don't care what Mauricio does. I will never concede that that bitch was right.

[A]

Okay? She might not have been a psychic. She could have just been, like, reading the room and heard stuff around town, like, you know what I mean?

[B]

True.

[A]

Just context clues. Not, you know, her third eye.

[B]

True.

[A]

And she had said it. And that's why it was such a big deal, because, like, there was sort of, like, weirdness where there's. Remember, where there's smoke.

[B]

Where there's smoke, there's fire.

[A]

They said that in the show, and it was, like, such a big deal. Like, their marriage was a storyline for many seasons.

[B]

I thought when she said that, she was literally might as well have been saying, like, to Adam and Eve. Like, right.

[A]

She just, like, was making things up.

[B]

Juliet.

[A]

So what does Page Six say? That they. They stand.

[B]

So a source tells Us Weekly that they're not getting back together or rekindling their romance. The insider added that there's still so much love between them and that they're in a really good place right now after announcing their split. It.

[A]

Well, that's good, actually. I could see you, like, being at the same party as your ex husband who you finally, like, are on good terms with. Like, why would you be, like, warm and cuddly?

[B]

Yeah, I would hope. I'm like, a. Sure. Separation and divorce, if they're even divorced, whatever. Separated is hard. But then I think, like, eventually, like, you would come full, like, after all the hurt and pain and, like, if you're both happier now, then you can look back, like, look at this person and be, like, feel warm towards them.

[A]

Yes. That happens a lot. And there are a lot of couples back together. If Alex Earl's parents can be in the Same room, like anyone can.

[B]

Yeah. So I'm glad that they're in that stage of warm and fuzzy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I don't think they're getting back together. I would be. I would seriously be shocked because they have completely different lives now.

[A]

They ended up on, like, Morgan Wade Talk for, like, a week, where I was just seeing lots of videos of her, like, at her concerts and stuff. And, you know, her and Kyle kind of walk the same. You know how, like, everyone talks about Kyle's walk? It's, like, stout and, like, cowboy, like. Yeah, they kind of have the same walk.

[B]

Well, she's a cowgirl, so I think that's, like, where that she's sort of like.

[A]

It's just so crazy that her name is Morgan Wade and she's a country singer. Do you know what I mean? Why Morgan Wallen? Like, it's just like, what are the odds, I guess. No, it's weird.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

It's weird.

[B]

Are you ready for our fifth and final story? Some biz news?

[A]

Oh, Emma, you know I'm obsessed with the story.

[B]

Warner Brothers Discovery rejects Paramount's latest takeover offer. Says it's. It's still insufficient compared with the Netflix deal. So the song remains the same. Warner Bros. Discovery has turned down the latest acquisition offered by David Ellison's paramount Skydance, and WBB's board is continuing to back the company's deal with Netflix. On Wednesday, Warner Brothers officially responded to Paramount's latest $30 per share all cash bid for Warner Brothers Discovery, its eighth takeover offer to date. Paramount Skydance offer is not more favorable to WBD stockholders than the Netflix merger and continues to be inadequate, they said, because of its insufficient value, taking into account price and numerous risks, costs and uncertainties.

[A]

This is where just like math is so important, right? Because Warner Brothers is a publicly traded company, they legally have to take the best offer for their shareholders. And Paramount has said, and we know the price per share, like, their offer is more money, like billions more, like a couple bill more. So they kind of like, have to accept it. And so they're saying that it's not better for our shareholders, but, like, someone's lying. Who is it?

[B]

Yeah, yeah. They maintain the Netflix deal is better. They say Psky is a company with $14 billion market capitalization attempting an acquisition requiring $94 billion of debt and equity financing, nearly seven times its total market capitalization to affect the transaction intends to incur an extraordinary amount of incremental debt, more than $50 billion, through arrangements with multiple financing partners. In contrast, Netflix is a Company with a market capitalization of approximately $400 billion. So they're basically saying they have more money, right? They can't afford us, but they're taking on partners.

[A]

Like, money's money.

[B]

You know, money's green is if it is green. Right.

[A]

Is it red?

[B]

Oh, no.

[A]

You know, I've seen red money.

[B]

Okay, tell me about that.

[A]

It's kind of like one of my most famous stories. I'm sure you've heard it. I witnessed a bank robbery on 72nd and 3rd. And I want to say, is red.

[B]

Money like a term?

[A]

Well, I was saying, like, red, like, when you're in the red. Like, in debt, but no red money. So, like, when you rob a bank and they give you the money, it's actually like, wrapped up in these, like, sort of how when you buy a shirt and has, like, a security tag, if you try to rip it off, they say ink will come out. I've never seen that. Is that true?

[B]

I've never tried to rip it off.

[A]

Meaning, like, I'm not a thief. Yeah.

[B]

And I'm not a thief.

[A]

Right. But if you do rob a bank, they'll give you, like, a wad of cash. It still has a security thing on it. So if you rip it off, it actually explodes red ink, and it, like, burns a hole in the money. So I'm on 72nd and 3rd. All of a sudden, all this money starts pouring onto the street. It's like, it was a windy day blowing in the street. All the money is red, and it has a big hole cut out in the middle. It's sort of a security measure that even if you rob a bank, like, sorry, but you can't have the money. And then, of course, like, famously, the police showed up, and they said, did you see the guy? I said, I did. He was wearing a purple Lacoste, polo, blue jeans, running up Third Avenue. I actually said, because I was watching a lot of Law and Order at the time, I said, running north, because I know 3rd Avenue goes uptown.

[B]

And they were like, probably saved them a lot of legwork.

[A]

I know. And it was good, right? Like, I had been waiting my whole life for this. I was like. I remembered everything. He was bald. He had a purple. I could, like, literally, I could pick him out of a lineup. To this day, I knew in the moment, like, how special I was experiencing. And I was like, remember everything. I didn't want to be one of those classic eyewitnesses with poor memory. Running north up 3rd Avenue. Worked alone, which I thought was interesting.

[B]

That, like, Your desire to be involved in the case. Case is.

[A]

I was.

[B]

Bias in itself, of course, but they didn't care.

[A]

They were like, will you. Do you think you could identify him? And I was like, what, do I look stupid? Of course I could. It was three seconds ago.

[B]

You're actually such an unreliable witness because you want it so bad.

[A]

I know.

[B]

They didn't know that.

[A]

How desperate I was at the time. So they're like, get in the car. Come. We're gonna drive and find him. And I was like, obviously, Ben, like, hold my purse. And Ben was like, you can't go. And I was like, I can't. He was like, no. Are you crazy? I'm like, am I crazy? Like, I couldn't. And they were like. The police were like, ma', am, we don't have time. Get your fat ass in the car. And I was like, okay.

[B]

Reliable witness, they call.

[A]

Am I being crazy? Like, am I being crazy?

[B]

And is this a crazy thing to do?

[A]

And I was like, oh, I guess. Like, it is crazy. Ben's right. Like, Ben's always right. I thought at the time, never thought that again. I was like, no, sorry, I can't. They're like, we're done with you. And they just, like, got in the car and ran north on Third Avenue. And then, like, I was walking, continuing to walk, like, a block down two blocks. And we were like, that was so crazy. And I look at Ben, I'm like. Like, you're stupid. Like, why did I listen to you? It's one of my biggest regrets. Of course, you guys know listening to Ben, and that was actually the last time I ever listened to him.

[B]

That's not true. You listen to him a lot.

[A]

Jacques, would you like to substantiate that with some sort of claim?

[B]

Nothing that I can say here.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I'm back into a corner.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. By the way, you didn't have to say it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that was the last time I listened to Ben.

[B]

That should be the last time you listened to him.

[A]

That's.

[B]

Well, I'm glad for this story because it let you tell your favorite story. And you know what?

[A]

And that's what we mean when we say that the Fast 5 are a gateway drug.

[B]

You're right, though. You did see Red Money. I didn't know what you were about to say. And we've just learned a lot about how to not rob a bank. Yeah.

[A]

So if you're gonna rob a bank is actually not a good choice for a million reasons. Like, you're most likely not going to get away with it. But also, the money that you steal, it's not like in the movies. It's not just like, loose bills marked. It's marked like, it can be traced back to you. It's actually not usable. If you take one of those red burned $5 bills to, like, a bodega, they're going to, like, get out of here.

[B]

Of course. With a hole in it.

[A]

Right. They're like, no, we only accept, like, full bills.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So just like, fun fact of the day. Rob a target or something. Or get a job.

[B]

Yeah, don't rob.

[A]

Yeah, no, don't rob. That's not the lesson I want to leave you guys with. Robbing is actually bad. I've witnessed so many robberies.

[B]

Don't rob.

[A]

I witnessed robbery and Dwayne Reed during COVID It was funny because, like, it was in the city and, like, they just, like, they have a high bar for, like, what to be afraid of? Like, nobody moved. No, no. The customers, I think everybody looked at him, like, shamed him into leaving. They were like, you're not serious. Right. And he had a knife, too. Like, nobody moved.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah. And then also, when I got. What was I doing at that cvs? Maybe I was getting, like, a flu shot or something. It was like, why was I in a cvs?

[B]

I don't know. Getting your basic needs.

[A]

No, but, like, I don't go in city. Like, you don't go to cvs, you go to Dwayne Reed.

[B]

Oh, it just depends on your location.

[A]

I feel like maybe I was getting, like, my covet shot because, like, I was. I went to this random cvs, like, where you could get an appointment. It was like this. The Hunger Games back then. Yeah. I think I was getting it. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it got robbed. He was, like, filling up his backpack with snacks, and they just didn't care.

[B]

Yeah, they have, like, they just.

[A]

No. And it's also, like, I don't own this store. I'm not gonna put my life out on the line because you want some chips. Like. Yeah. I understood them deeply.

[B]

Yeah. And that's like, it's more of a cultural issue.

[A]

Like, why are we robbing? And this. This poor clerk who's, like, just on his shift wasn't gonna solve it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Have you ever stolen anything?

[B]

I don't think so. And I wouldn't say it here.

[A]

I feel like you stole my jacket that you wore on New Year's, like, right from my closet, and I hadn't seen it in years.

[B]

It's a family heirloom. What? It's a family heirloom that was given to me and me.

[A]

No, actually, just me.

[B]

I don't ever. Like, I've been wearing. Since after Dale.

[A]

I've been wearing that coat. Like, I had that coat in college.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And obviously, when you were living in that apartment with Olivia at 7. 7. Whatever that building was called, you obviously wore it on, like, a night out. Because, like, I used. It was my night out jacket, and you just never gave it back.

[B]

Yeah, no, I remember I wore it on after Dale because it was like, very Cheryl Blossom.

[A]

Okay, so I lent it to you for a costume.

[B]

Yeah. It does sound like you had it for a time, and then I had it for a time.

[A]

Well, I'd like it back. I live in New York and you don't. What do you need a fur coat for?

[B]

You can just ask. I give you anything you want.

[A]

It's true.

[B]

Instead, you have to accuse me of being a thief.

[A]

Like, well, you accuse me of being shy.

[B]

I have the stuff to back it up.

[A]

So do I. Jacket.

[B]

And I just want to say, it is a family coat, and my run with it is done. I would be.

[A]

Your reign has ended.

[B]

I'd be happy to give it to you. Great.

[A]

I'd be happy to receive it.

[B]

It.

[A]

I'll be picking it up. I'm actually coming over for dinner, so.

[B]

Great. No need for Jacuzeri.

[A]

You. Big plans tonight? What are you doing?

[B]

I'm having dinner with you on Forge.

[A]

Oh, but who are you gonna talk to? Because your dinner maid is so shy.

[B]

No, we are having dinner. Tacos. I'm really excited. I'm hungry. And we're having lunch together, too. If we can stop fighting.

[A]

We are having lunch together. If we can stop fighting.

[B]

I thought you were gonna be like, oh, we are fighting.

[A]

By the way, tomorrow's big day. Tomorrow's Traders Day. Like, the day we've sort of been waiting for for months. We are watching Traders, and I think, if I read correctly, that they're releasing the first three episodes.

[B]

Okay, good.

[A]

So how are we gonna watch it all in one night?

[B]

I don't know. That's what I was thinking.

[A]

Maybe we, like, watch it over the weekend because it comes out Thursday night.

[B]

And it's, like, not like all of you have watched it the first night.

[A]

So maybe, like, Monday will be Traitors.

[B]

Okay, I think that's good.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Don't want to take on too much.

[A]

I also, weirdly watched, for some reason, the season finale of this Real Housewives of Salt Lake City last night because, like, Ben wasn't home, and, like, the show that we watched together, I couldn't watch.

[B]

Well, please don't spoil it, because it was really bad.

[A]

I just want to say I've heard, like, so much. I've been off the Salt Lake City train for a while.

[B]

And you watch this current.

[A]

Yeah. In Greece, right?

[B]

Yeah. I'm not there.

[A]

Oh, my God. It was, like, not good.

[B]

Okay, well.

[A]

But I was intrigued.

[B]

Okay, well, I'm gonna watch it. My new favorite show.

[A]

That's our show, you guys. Sorry if you didn't hear a lot from me today because I was feeling really shy. Thank you guys so much for listening to the toast and morning. Should we deliver the fastest stories in each 50 subscribing this video. Thumbs up. Also available your public radio sunny weekly towns. We are.

[B]

Love you. Bye. Leave a message.

[A]

That's right.

[B]

I love it. So good.