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Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast.
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It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host.
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A
It's your favorite show. The Fast 5 things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the Toast.
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B
I sound amazing. Welcome back to the Toast. Happy Monday, you guys. Today is a Monday, but it's a celebration because we've got Claudia Ashray. Coaches wo just Turdy Lou on the Toast. Welcome.
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A
And let me tell you, it was hard to get a slot. Like, I was like, I could come back for a day or two. And she was like, no, actually, you can't. Thankfully. I don't know who it's supposed to be today, but, like, Shannon getting sick, like, rejiggered last week. And, yeah, so they. They made time for me on my own platform. How generous.
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B
Yes, it all worked out. We're so excited that you're here. I know people are going to be overjoyed. Everyone has missed you so much that we're supporting you and we're not rushing you back to work and we support new mamas, but we have missed you. How are you?
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A
You know what? I'm doing really good. The last time I came to podcast, which I did my birth story on Patreon. You guys should check that out. If you have any questions about, like, my journey with a C section. Breach baby. I was feeling like, you know, it was so soon. Like, oh, my God. I walked here and I was like, oh, my God. Ah. Like, it was like a big, scary world. I went to New York once and in 1981, and I just did not feel safe today. I was like, okay, let's get this bitch back to work. Like, I feel like it's. It's doable, you know, I. And maybe today just, like, everything worked out, but, like, baby is fed. I don't even feel guilty. People think I feel guilty going back to work. Like, no, bitch, I'm ready. Like, everybody wants to hear from me. It's kind of like, you know, all the anticipation of me coming back, I'm like, yeah, yeah, sorry, sorry, Ruby, can't talk to you. I got to go meet my adoring fans. I feel good. I feel really good. There's also so much going on in pop culture culture that I need to talk about, and I'm dodging Love island spoilers like the plague. I'm one episode behind. I can't watch them live. Like, I have a newborn. Like, them being on at 9 o' clock. Are you kidding me? That's midnight for me. So no, but it's so good that.
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B
You'Re going to sleep before that wake window. Like I used to go to bed at like the 11 o' clock after that feeding and then it's so late and coaches prioritizes the early bedtime.
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A
That's how we started. We started going to bed. We started going to bed at like the 11:12 window. Big mistake. Now we go to bed at 8:30 with the baby. It's better. Obviously every night is different but that means I have to watch Love island the next day, which is fine because like, you know, during the day the baby sleeps a lot too. So me and Ben are always like. Ben calls it love is blind or too hot to handle. He cannot remember the name of the show.
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B
I also don't like that, like when I want to text someone about Love Island, I'm not writing out Love island, so I'm writing Lie Lausa.
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A
Like L I usa.
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B
There's not a good acronym for.
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A
There's also Liuk, Luke Levada and uk. Ben is obsessed. I'm obsessed. We didn't watch last night because we watch him during the day. So I'm gonna give some thoughts.
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B
I'm caught up to the same place that you are. I did not watch last night because I knew you weren't watching and I, I finished catching up at like 11 so I didn't want to watch another episode. So let's give our thoughts up until whatever happened last night, which seems to have shook the villa.
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A
Now you can obviously plan when you have a baby and some people like to plan it so that like they, you know, give birth right before the summer so it's not too hot. If you can plan your postpartum around Love Island, I cannot recommend it enough because I imagine it's quite overwhelming to keep up with the episodes when you have like a full time job, a family to take care of. Like you're just like busy everyday life.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Let me tell you, postpartum, I need three episodes a day. Like there's not enough. And the night where there's not an episode like that next day, me and Ben just stare at each other.
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B
That's really funny. Well, I'm excited to talk about it with you because so far everyone I've co hosted with has not sacrificed their entire life to watch Love Island.
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A
So be good. So if you haven't watched the most recent episode, you're safe here. Okay?
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B
Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is a safe space.
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A
Let's just go couple by couple. Obviously we have to start off.
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B
Oh, you want to do it now? You don't want to save it till the end just, like, because not.
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A
Oh, you're right. You're right, you're right. Okay, fine. We'll put the time stamps so that nobody gets spoiled. You're right. You're right. I got it. I got too excited.
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B
Yes. She's too hot in the pants.
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A
I'm so worried that, like, I'm not gonna get all my thoughts out on today's episode for, like, all the things that. I think that we're actually gonna do a Patreon episode because there's been so much pop culture stuff, like, Aaron Rodgers is married. Also, our bet. Like, we have to.
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B
You owe me money.
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A
I don't owe you money.
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B
March. Well, you make. You have to make a donation in my name. You say to the beautiful Jacqueline Ashra.
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A
How much did we say it was? Four.
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B
Said five grand. We always say five grand.
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A
No, we. That's insane. We definitely said.
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B
I think we said 10,000.
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A
We said 1,000.
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B
You're welcome, Mark.
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A
Donation to the Mark schonwetter foundation for $1,800. Okay, question mark. And in Jackie's name. Question mark. Done.
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B
Oh, my God. We should make more bets, first of all. And then for stories today, like, the celebrities were just celebrating Father's Yesterday. Father's Day yesterday. Which we do need to talk about how you celebrities celebrated. But I picked some stories that are, like, part of things we talked about last week, because I need to get your opinion on certain things.
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A
Yes, we're going to do, like, a whole backdated Patreon episode because, like, I need to talk about Rachel Zoe. Like, I need to talk about a lot of things. But, yes, I appreciate today doesn't need to be the most, like, timely, topical episode, because I need to talk about some things from last week too.
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B
The only thing that is not in the stories that we didn't need your opinion on, like, right this minute is Tarik.
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A
Oh, I know. That's my king right there. Like, one thing about Tarek, he's consistently aggressive, and we love that for him.
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B
And you read the details that it was a knee to the face.
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A
Oh, my God. Let me tell you, like, every heat. This is the thing. I have been on Tatarik since the hike, right? And he's actually done a really good job of rehabilitating his image with, like, his content with the old wife and the new wife. And he was in on the joke. He wrote his book. He talked about the arm tyke and how we were all deeply Misunderstanding it. It was for the bears. You know, I never was fooled. Now this is just further proof he's like clearly a crazy person. The amount of times I got tagged in like E News, the Tick Tock, Instagram, I must have gotten DM'd 10,000 times. I love that people associate his violence.
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B
With dirty.
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A
Correct, obsessed and just like all here to say like I told you so, like that's my consistent king right there. Okay.
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B
Yeah. And you appreciate consistency?
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A
You know I do.
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B
It's something I.
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A
And especially in this kind of crazy phase of my life, like I really come to appreciate the stable things that I can rely on. And that's Tarek being violent and getting assaulted and arrested for a battery and assault.
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B
In Tarik's defense, he said that the guy was taunting his elderly father.
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A
That's the thing with Tart. He always has a very valid excuse. Like the bear. Yeah. So maybe that's true, maybe that's not. That's all I can say. Yeah, no comment. You know.
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B
Well, I'm glad that we have your official statement on the matter. We couldn't put it to bed until we did.
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A
It's also so Tarik like to have an outburst on my maternity leave.
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B
Well, I felt like he thought he could get away with it because Tariq.
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A
Watch went dark for a month. But you know, I came to work today just to speak on on this issue in particular.
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B
The substitute teacher is in he thought schools out for summer and he didn't.
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A
Realize how I'd been influencing young minds about him because the way that like that's a news story like truly who gives a shit about right? In the real world, thousands of young women were heavily engaged.
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B
It was probably enews like most shared.
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A
Post a thousand percent like trending news in the corner of their website because of us.
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B
Yeah, you're welcome. Tarik. Come on the show anytime.
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A
What can I say?
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B
Yeah, except keeping him relevant yet.
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A
Welcome.
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B
Well, how are you doing? How's new mama life? How's Rue?
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A
How's so great Ro?
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B
How's Ben?
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A
Yes, Romeo is home. We celebrated Father's Day yesterday. And all Romeo wanted was. All Ben wanted was for Romeo to come home. And that's what he got. And let me tell you, I had been telling Ben that I had been telling Ben he might be like overestimating how easy it's going to be like with the walks and Romeo's still very much like a puppy. Ish. And Ben was like, it'll be fine, it'll be fine. And like it was A little challenging. Last night was our first night. Romeo just like was barking a lot, waking the baby. Like it wasn't, it wasn't 100% copacetic. And Ben, I hated to be like, Ben, I told you so. And I couldn't be like a because it was Father's Day, but like I told you so, you know.
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B
Was it midnight yet?
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A
No, no, because we go to bed at 8 o' clock. It's good to have him home. And you know, all the hate I've been getting on the Internet has winded down because we didn't re home. Romeo, he stay with his grandparents for three weeks and now he's home. It's good. I wanted to get in like a nice routine with him before the summer, so it's fine. But they say like there's this condition. I forget what it's called, like postpartum, something where you just hate your animal. Like you just can't. And I'm not experiencing that whatsoever. I'm just obviously like have different priorities now. And I will say I think Ben prioritizes the baby and Romeo equally. And I'm like, you need to stop. But it's good. Romeo's fine. He's fine. We celebrated Father's Day, Ben's first Father's Day. Obviously there was a lot of speculation, will we celebrate? Since I didn't get to celebrate Mother's Day because I gave birth literally one.
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B
Week later, straight up said, you're not celebrating Father's Day.
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A
And we did celebrate Father's Day. We celebrated Ben as a father. We also celebrated Ben's father. So it was really nice. We had like a bagel brunch and then I got Ben like an in home massage for his birthday, which you know, he loved. And he was like feeling so guilty about. He's like, you should take it, you should take it. I almost did. My back was killing me. Breastfeeding his back, breaking work. Yeah, I had like, I, I had the foresight to like weeks ago make this plan for a gift and I wanted to follow through on it and if I, if I took it, Ben would have been fine. But he deserved it. And he loves massages. He's always asking me, can we go get a massage? He's like, we have five minutes free. You want to go to the nail salon and get our back rub? Like Ben's obsessed, so it was the right thing to do, but it was hard not to take it. I can't lie because he really wanted me to. And I was like, you know what? Ask me one more time and I'll take it.
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B
Yeah. And actually, in hindsight, we did actually have a really party, delicious Mother's Day because we were together and, like, you were doing the same thing that, like, I was doing, and that's how I celebrated Mother's Day. So, like, it wasn't like you had, like, a. A non Mother's Day. Like, I feel like you were celebrated. So to. For him to have a little something. Of course. He's been a wonderful partner.
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A
I wouldn't say that I was celebrated, but.
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B
Yeah, well, every day of T's life is a celebration of turdi.
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A
It's true.
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B
Right?
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A
I feel like when I came on Patreon and did the birth story, I was still very much in, like, they say, like, there's, like, this euphoric. You're, like, running on adrenaline postpartum. Not everyone experiences it, but I definitely experience newborn bubble. Like, even the things that are hard and that suck, like, you don't even care. You don't see them. Like, I was very much. Some people have the total opposite, where it's like, postpartum depression. I had definitely, like, the euphoric state, and I'm out of that for sure because it's been, like, a little bit more real. Like, the nights are getting harder, but I'm still, like, loving every minute. We'll see what, like, what I say next week. But.
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B
But I do think also sometimes people's postpartum depression, like, doesn't come until, like, one or two months. Like, it's not immediate.
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A
Maybe that's waiting for me.
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B
No, no. I'm just saying, like, you could still have the euphoric bubble, but then the crash, like, might be even harder.
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A
The euphoric bubble is so real, though. And, like, here's what nobody tells you about having a baby, because one of the things I was most excited about was the smell. Right? I love the way babies smell. It's just, like, so delicious. That smell lasts two weeks. I thought that smell lasted, like, a couple of months, but I was like, yeah, with draft, I was Johnson and Johnson. Yeah. I was literally sniffing behind his ears. Like, seriously, so creepy. And I'm like, where is the smell? It's. It's gone.
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B
Oh, sorry. What you also don't realize is that it's harder for you to smell it on your own baby because, like, you are part of the smell. Like, you would always come to my house and be like, the smell. And, like, I didn't smell it as much as you did, because I'm Immersed in it. So, like, so maybe now that I've come to work. Oh, I mean, it's a little short.
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A
Like, and I go back, I'll smell it.
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B
I think when I see the room, I'll let you know if you. What kind of smell he's emanating. But, like, I think you're just too in it.
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A
Okay.
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B
So don't think that it all is lost.
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A
Well, I'm really excited to be back here on the toast talking about the things that I care about. Like, I. Ben has been an amazing teammate in all this, and I, like, talk to him about, like, what goes on in the world because I have nobody to talk to. And he does his part. He, like, pretending to care. But it's nice to be back with people who actually care about the important things in life. Like Aaron Rodgers being married. I told him that. And Ben was like, was he not married before? I'm like, no. Why would I share that information? Why would I randomly say Aaron Rodgers is married if you've been married for five years?
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B
Also? That's rude. Because I feel like that's a topic that you should both be able to.
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A
That's why I brought it up.
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B
Shared interests.
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A
That's why I brought it up.
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B
Okay. Fucking rude.
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A
It was actually so rude. He was like, was he not married before? Like, why would I randomly just be like, oh, Jackie, Ashra is married. Like, duh.
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B
Oh, Lish. I'm gonna go easy on Lish because.
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A
She deserves our. Our utmost respect.
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B
Lish deserves ease.
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A
Lish deserves ease. Lish is an amazing dad, partner, friend. Like, we knew he would be.
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B
He sent me his recipe for chicken rocks. I crush them. And Lish has been a huge part of my life recently. Aside from being like my brother in.
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A
Law, of course the father. Yeah.
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B
Because my children are obsessed with the Good Guys theme song. I love that they are always, like, talking about good guys and bad guys because they love superheroes. And sometimes they'll be like, I want. You know, they'll say like, I want baseball songs. So I just like, search baseball and Spotify and play something. And they say, I want good guy song. And I'm like, well, actually yet, uncle, some of the ones in twos and.
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A
And what do they think about, like, the vocals? Do they say that they're Josh's parts?
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B
They love it. They love the song. And we keep listening to the same episode and it starts like this. Benny and Joshi, Joshi and Benny. The Nicks are so bad. And this is not good. Benny and they. And so we have to listen through that part too.
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A
I forgot that their song is not on streaming services like ours is.
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B
No. And I could kill them.
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A
I'll tell them. I'll tell them to get on it.
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B
I did tell Ben, but I don't want to push the point because I know he's busy.
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A
And do you think Ben knows how to do that?
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B
Like, okay, I guess I should tell Josh because I'm literally like, Skip going back 15 minutes. They also know this is a Dear Media production.
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A
I'm cracking up.
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B
And I literally had to sit there in the passenger seat. Don't worry, I'm not driving. It's in sex cart. And go back 15 seconds like four times and we listen to it again. But at this point, when they do upload it to Spotify, I need it to include Benny and Joshi. Joshi and Benny so bad. And this is not good.
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A
And this is a Dear Media production.
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B
The following podcast is a Dear Media production.
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A
Hysterical.
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B
So I have always a warm spot in my heart for Ben, but he's been a very big part of my life recently.
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A
I love that.
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B
My children's number one artist.
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A
Me too. Literally. Me too. It's gonna be on your Spotify. Well, it's not on Spotify.
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B
Oh, my number one podcast this year is gonna be good, guys.
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A
Oh, I hate that. Yucky things. I hate that.
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B
Nothing. Nothing. Could you serve the toast? Actually, there's no. There's no. Nothing. I could listen to more than I listen to the toast. It's not statistically possible.
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A
I actually don't listen to the toast. I watch the toast.
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B
Yeah, I don't listen to it either. But I do go to our page every day to share the link, so maybe that counts for something.
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A
Can I tell you my thoughts on Jackie Owen, friends? Because I was thinking this last night, I wanted to share, like, because I've been a toaster these last couple of weeks. Let me tell you how fabulous it is to have a daily podcast with par g vibes, audio and video that comes out every day. Like, I totally get why people are so obsessed with us. And it's been so fun, obviously, to watch the co host, especially some of the new ones. And I was thinking last night, like, I wanted to share who my favorites were. And then I realized, like, I'm so toxic because both of my favorites are the men.
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B
Oh, who?
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A
Joey Commaster.
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B
Always.
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A
And nobody is a bigger fan of Joey Master than my father in law. He said, I saw Joey Commaster is on the toast. I have to watch that one. I said, yes, you Do Bruce.
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B
Did you see Joey was talking about Bruce on the podcast? I forget what he said, but yes. Because Joey's also the son of a chef.
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A
Yes. And you know him and Ben cook together.
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B
Yeah. And he said that he Kiki'd with Bruce. I was like, not that Kiki with Bruce.
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A
Bruce loves Joey. Okay. Like, obsessed.
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B
I love that.
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A
And Joey's obviously been on before, but not with you, so it was like a new dynamic. And Joey's just like, no.
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B
Yes, with me, but not in forever. Not since Pink Backdrop.
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A
You just need to, like, park him by a microphone and he will make you laugh. Like, I just love him. And I honestly, the Chrisley story being, like, his day, I needed to hear his thoughts on Julie and Todd Chrisley, which I also want to talk about in my Patreon episode. So Obsessed. And then I also really loved Jared Freed. Like, fresh, you know, Floridian dynamic. So not me being toxic and, like, choosing the male hosts out of, like, 15, who are all women, but that. Those were my faves, in case anyone was wondering.
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B
Those were so good. I seriously have so much fun with it every single day. I'm also getting to live out, like, my Jackson Wonderland era because I'm really enjoying the art of podcasting. Like, we get to the stories, but not everyone's a pop culture expert, so I'm not, like, rushing there, and I just get to, like, have a little chit chat, see where the convo goes. And let me tell you something about Jax. She is chatty.
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A
Chatty when. When she's kind of left to her own devices without Lechard. She could talk that Jack.
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B
I mean, KFC and I did an hour and 45 minutes.
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A
Let me ask you something. How do you feel it's been going with the advertisements?
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B
Oh, I'm having a ball. Yeah, I know I'm having a ball.
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A
And nice of you to put your mic flag on. Explain to me why where your mic flag has been for the last three at home episodes. You didn't have it with Trout, you didn't have it with Margo, and you didn't have it with Taylor's tracker. Sorry, not Trout. Not Trout. Not Trout.
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B
It was at the studio. I bring them to the studio. So we have Mike flags for our guest episodes, and then the couple ones that I did from home. I didn't know the day before that I wasn't coming back.
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A
You know what? In the words of Jackie, oh, I'm fudgeing all the way off, like, 100% valid excuse.
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B
Thank you so much. A little slack would go a long way around here at the moment.
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A
By the way. I did give you slack because I could have brought it up the first time I saw it and I didn't yet. You know, I'm trying not to be. I'm trying to be like a hands off maternity, you know, like. But it's hard. Oh my God.
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B
She's literally not.
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A
It's so hard. But you've been doing a great job. You know, obviously the ads have been running a little long, but you know, that's just a gift to our sponsors.
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B
It's a gift to our sponsors who are so tried and true and I love that every day say so many of the sponsors are the same. Like, they deserve our love and our authenticity. So today I'm also going to do the ads just because I want Claudia to just have like the guest experience.
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A
You know what? I really appreciate that like the ads is a burden, right? To agree, like timing it right and making sure it's like a good part of the show and like that you're being funny. So it is, it does weigh heavily in the fact that I'm just sitting here without an iPad. Like, I don't know what I'm going to do during the ads.
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B
No. And also when to get into a groove with the ads. You remember all the copy, you know the points that each brand wants you to hit. So it's just like all in your head. Like the first few days I was like looking at, there's so much copy. What do I need to say now? I, I'm. We're simpatico, which you usually are with the brands. But like, stay, like stay chill, get out of here, stay chilled, you know.
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A
Don'T worry about it. And I got two new air conditioning units in the studio.
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B
While I can hear them.
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A
You can.
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B
Don't worry.
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A
The microphone's not picking it up, the audio microphone. But I've been, I've been obviously preoccupied with Ruby. But air conditioning is still the number one priority and I now have three units. Oh, I forgot to tell you guys. Remember I was talking about how I got this brand new air conditioning unit in my studio. I was so excited. It was like really like a labor of love. I had to buy it. Then I have a come and install. Like it was a whole thing. It was, you know, working part deliciously for like two, three weeks. I get an email from like Home Depot or whatever that the exact model that I bought, like of all the units in all the land, the exact unit that I bought has Been recalled for mold. Now, there are a lot of things things get recalled for. And for the most part, it's, like, not the biggest deal, but, like, mold.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Not an option. I would have ignored it if it was anything else. So then I had to get a refund and a new one and an installation like Torture Fest. But we now have three units working, firing on all cylinders of this new office. And to be honest, I'm kind of cold.
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B
Oh. Lol. Well, we're matching today. Also, we didn't plan, like, cream sweaters, parties, Creamsicle swirly. We're so creamsicle, and we're just so simpatico.
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A
And we're also running a little bit behind. You know, the time police is here.
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B
Oh, but that's the thing about being a guest on my show. You never know how long the Pre Fast Five banner could go.
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A
Well, I'm ready to dive in.
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B
Okay. I just. I'm shocked that you're ready to dive in. I'm.
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A
No, you know what?
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B
You have to give us more. Sorry. You know, fans, we need more coaches.
- [19:55]
A
Yeah. My, like, current timeline is my breasts. Like, I can feel them growing larger.
- [20:00]
B
But I would rather rush through the fifth story than skimp on banter. Do you know what I mean?
- [20:04]
A
All right, let's banter. What do you want to know?
- [20:06]
B
Two episodes last week, it was just four stories. I don't know how many people noticed, but I was like, it's like, I got five.
- [20:11]
A
I've taken a hit.
- [20:13]
B
Oh, the past five have taken a hit for sure.
- [20:15]
A
Did you talk about the Real Housewives of New York? Like, the loser version? All of them commenting on your Instagram reel?
- [20:20]
B
No, I didn't, because I'm, like, it made me so uncomfortable. I did allude to it when I was podcasting with Taylor Strecker, because last week when I podcasted with Margo, we were talking about the real houses in New York recast and how, like, whoever did that, like, should be fired and they shouldn't be in charge of the next. What? They're going to do the same job again of recasting real houses in New York. And we posted that clip just about, like, fire people who are bad at their jobs. And then, like, a bunch of the former cast members started commenting of, like.
- [20:48]
A
The new show, like, Jenna Lyons, Uber. They were, like, butt hurt about it when, like, the clip, like, wasn't really about them. And, like, we said what we said, and I stand by it.
- [20:55]
B
Yeah. Uber's friends with Taylor Strecker, though. Did you know that, yes, I did. Long standing friends. Uber's comment was funny to me because she said, as long as you have confidence and wi fi, like, I guess.
- [21:06]
A
Who cares about facts?
- [21:07]
B
Who cares about facts? Yeah. What was that factual?
- [21:10]
A
I don't know. I didn't understand her comment, but I met Uma once, and I was absolutely. I know Jazz by her, so she's a okay.
- [21:18]
B
In my book, star doesn't mean you're not a good person or an interesting person or, like, I mean, I don't think I would be a good reality star, but, like, I'm fabulous.
- [21:27]
A
I would argue if you're not a good reality star, you're probably a good person. Like, that's. This is kind of the connection I made. After Taylor's Trekker hosted, she came over to my house. She was like, I forgot. I didn't realize. I'm like, so out of it. When I saw her on the toast, I'm like, oh, my God, Come over. Like, you're in my studio. Come over. She did. We went to lunch. Like, that was like the most normal. I had to go. Where do you think?
- [21:50]
B
30?
- [21:50]
A
I had to take Ruby to Bloomingdale's to have ice cream, and Taylor's trucker had never been to 40 carats.
- [21:56]
B
That's twisted. You went to Rubingdale's?
- [21:58]
A
We went to Rubingdale's. It was my first time in, like, an indoor restaurant. We go outside every day either for a walk to the park or like, an outdoor lunch spot somewhere that has, like, partialicious outdoor seating al fresco. But it. It was so hot that day. So Taylor Shrek said she'd never been, and so I was in an indoor restaurant. I can't lie. I was, like, having a little bit of a panic. It was like, it was kind of crazy to have, like, a three week stuffy. It was like, it was busy too, with, like, lots of kids. Yeah, I was like, I was hating it, but it felt so good to be, like, out and about. I love Taylor Strecker. So, like, if you want to have more of my friends, come to the studio. That would work for my social events calendar.
- [22:30]
B
Okay, great. I'm trying to think, oh, this week I have an exciting week. I have a guest coming to stay with me.
- [22:35]
A
Oh, yeah.
- [22:35]
B
Episodes. Which is something that I had meant to do previously, but it just hasn't worked out until now. So I have my guests, and then we're off Thursday. And then Friday we have another exciting guest. First time co host, not first time guest. That's all I'll say I want to.
- [22:53]
A
Know who it is. Give me, like, a subliminal message.
- [22:56]
B
Okay, I'll give you a gender male, and it's been in our text messages.
- [23:00]
A
Oh. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [23:02]
B
Male. What do you mean it's gonna be your favorite?
- [23:04]
A
Literally, I'm so toxic. And now that I'm a boy mom, I just want to say I think there's been a lot of speculation about how Turdy is going to be different. Right. Like, obviously, motherhood changes you so much. And when I come on the podcast and talk every day, like, am I going to be a different type of person? And for the most part, I actually feel more like myself than ever. I don't feel like I've changed that much, except, like, I will be changing my disposition on Dear Toasters two ways. One, because I'm a boy mom now, and I'm definitely a toxic boy mom. Like, I need to have a daughter so that Ruby has a girl to marry because he's not marrying out of the family.
- [23:34]
B
Sorry, what about cousin? What about Michaela?
- [23:38]
A
Sure, fine.
- [23:38]
B
But.
- [23:40]
A
But the second way I feel like I'm definitely going to be changed when it comes to Dear Toasters is, like, I feel like sometimes I'm a little cavalier about, like, you know, boyfriends and husbands just being, like, whatever, you know, like.
- [23:53]
B
Make it work. Yeah, always, like, break up with your gay boy.
- [23:56]
A
I'm always saying, break up with your gay boyfriend. But I feel like now more than ever, I've really come to understand and appreciate how, like, who you have a baby with is, like, it's a choice, right?
- [24:05]
B
Like, it's the biggest decision you'll ever make.
- [24:08]
A
Life is not a fairy tale. I'm sorry. Like, the guy who's, you know, giving you eight orgasms and, like, you know, riding off in a motorcycle, like, I love him and he's mean to you, but, like, I love him like that. The bar has been raised significantly. Like, the most important choice you will make in this life is who you go through the newborn trenches with. And, like, I just, like, I'm not going to be putting up with this, like, behavior any longer, even though I really haven't been putting up with it, but the bar is even higher now.
- [24:34]
B
Yeah. You haven't been putting up with it, but are you also saying, like, it's more than just, like, I love him?
- [24:39]
A
Like, yes. No.
- [24:40]
B
We need to be thinking critically about the characteristics of our partner.
- [24:43]
A
That's what I mean.
- [24:44]
B
What you want in a father, it's.
- [24:45]
A
Not so sexy and romantic. All the time. Like, when you are choosing who you're going to marry and have kids with, like, there are. So obviously love is important. Right. But it's not the most important. No, sorry. It is the most important. It's not the only thing. There are so many other characteristics. Like, and I think that when we were like, oh, my husband's a P Jump, but he did X. Well, a P. John wouldn't do that. So actually he's not a P Jump. And you need to break up with him because you can't be. He can't be the father of your children. Now, if you're not planning on having children, you can let them get away with more. A thousand percent. But I just, like, I feel like my. My growth will be most evident during. Dear Toasters.
- [25:19]
B
Wow. Can't wait to see it. Should have had you on a Tuesday.
- [25:23]
A
And like, the mother in law, like, now I'm the toxic mother in law.
- [25:26]
B
Nobody's good enough for my boy.
- [25:28]
A
Literally nobody. I got so upset, like, on our first outing, which was to the pediatrician, like, three days later. I got so upset in the back of the car, like, thinking about the fact that Ruby's gonna have a girlfriend one day. Not on my watch.
- [25:39]
B
No. And like, just wait till you start thinking about, like, when he gets married.
- [25:42]
A
No. I feel sick.
- [25:43]
B
The girl gets, like, all the good.
- [25:45]
A
Yep.
- [25:46]
B
Yeah. That's why I think there are things that you can do to stave it off.
- [25:51]
A
Yeah. Have a daughter.
- [25:53]
B
Have a dog.
- [25:54]
A
Well, yeah, I will be having a daughter next.
- [25:57]
B
But I think also, like, having an amazing vacation home.
- [26:00]
A
Yes.
- [26:01]
B
That everyone wants to go to.
- [26:03]
A
No. But also just being like, the fun.
- [26:05]
B
Like, that's my. That's my. Like, your daughter in law would, like.
- [26:09]
A
Run from you if you're like a toxic overbearing. You just need to be like the fun family. Like, oh, you know, our outings are great. We go out and we have cocktails. Like, we're fun.
- [26:17]
B
Everyone has different ideas of fun, though. You think it's so. Of course. But it's.
- [26:20]
A
Of course. I also haven't had a cocktail.
- [26:23]
B
Right.
- [26:23]
A
I went out to lunch on Saturday. I almost did, but it wasn't the right. It wasn't the right setting. And I think I want my first cocktail to be like, in the Hamptons this summer.
- [26:30]
B
Yeah. And it's like less so about, like, obviously your breast milk, which, by the way, if you're not like, drinking into oblivion, like, you can still use your breast milk.
- [26:38]
A
Yeah. And they say the best time to have a Cocktail is as you're nursing, like a wine in one hand, a baby in the other. No, because like, the milk that they're drinking is from two hours ago. Thick things that you ate.
- [26:48]
B
Yeah. But more so it's like, can you parent a little tipsy?
- [26:52]
A
Like, do you want to?
- [26:54]
B
Yeah. A little hungover. No, that's where it's like, more unpleasant, challenging. Like a wine in the middle of afternoon and you're crashing by evening.
- [27:02]
A
It's gonna be a lot of trial and error this summer, so I'm looking forward to that journey.
- [27:07]
B
But it will be a party summer.
- [27:09]
A
It's gonna be a swirly summer. The second in a row.
- [27:11]
B
It's also going to be a party Patreon summer, because if you want the parch vibes, head over to the Patreon. Like it's going down. You're halfway through.
- [27:18]
A
You're halfway through. Jackson friends. And in two weeks, the toast is off for the summer.
- [27:23]
B
Yeah, but we're not.
- [27:25]
A
Because we'll be releasing one rerelease every week and one Patreon every week. So you'll be fed plenty. But still.
- [27:32]
B
But still. Now let's get into the fast five stories that you need to know because coaches needs to go home to her.
- [27:38]
A
Wee little baby because coaches is leaking. Shout out to Lansing. Oh, okay. If you know, you know.
- [27:45]
B
You Lance. And no, You.
- [27:47]
A
Lance said no. I got this box. Jackie was like, you need these, like, nipple covers. I'm like, okay, whatever. And it came. It was probably a box of a thousand. And I'm like, what the hell am I. I'm done with it. Like, I. They're the. Everything Lansino makes is the best thing ever.
- [28:01]
B
So are you over supplied a little bit?
- [28:03]
A
I am, definitely. And we talked about. Thank you. I'm glad you brought this up extensively.
- [28:08]
B
Your dreams came true.
- [28:09]
A
I am. I'm not an over supplier. I make more than enough for my child. I don't pump. I collect milk with, like a suction thing and I have a freezer full of milk that I've probably pumped collectively four or five times with everything just gets collected. I. I collect like 12 extra ounces a day and I'm not even trying. That's just like. And I'm still always, like, big and engorged, so I got what I wished for. I. I'm not an over supplier because, like, I watch people who pump 30 ounces in one sitting.
- [28:39]
B
Like, that's craz, like, extreme over supply.
- [28:43]
A
I have a very, very healthy supply and I'm very grateful because I know some people, like, pump all day and get one ounce. Like, yeah, if I. I could pump. I actually did pump last night, cuz Ben needed to make a bottle. I pumped for about six minutes and I got five ounces. Like, I think that's really.
- [28:57]
B
Yeah, that's a lot.
- [28:59]
A
No, I know.
- [29:00]
B
Her dreams came true. Is it everything you dreamed of?
- [29:03]
A
It's nice to not have to worry, honestly. I know some people, like, really panic. And that's the thing. Nursing is so hard. And then I go to the doctor and you know, poo poo is gaining weight ahead of schedule and makes you feel so good, right? Like, it's worse. It's worth all the pain and the literally, like the crying at night. I know some people go to the doctor after going through the same pain as me, and they're like, you need to supplement with formula. It's not driving. Baby's not gaining enough weight, and that's really hard. So I'm grateful to the supply for that. But it's not without its challenges. My boobs always hurt. I still am wearing a bra in the shower. I have a shower bra that I hang on a hook.
- [29:33]
B
And is it a bathing suit yet?
- [29:35]
A
No, no. I was thinking of buying a bathing suit, obviously.
- [29:39]
B
Like a waterproof top. A waterproof bra, which is a bikini top, Jackie.
- [29:43]
A
I literally was like, to bed, they should make shower bras. And he's like, it's a bathing suit.
- [29:47]
B
You said you take a shower in your bra. I was like, is it a shower bra? But then I'm like, that's amazing.
- [29:53]
A
So I have one distinct bra, actually. If you watched my Patreon, what's in my hospital bag? One of those mom cozy ones I got from Amazon. It's like kind of like a really thin. It's not a good bra for like every day. It's a good shower bra. I wore it today. Before I got here, I showered in my shower bra. So that's the not a bathing suit bra. Margo came over and I was nursing and she was like, holy shit. My boobs have tripled in size and they were already doubled in size from pregnancy. Like, they are the biggest boobs definitely in New York City right now. Like, nobody has bigger boobs than me in the five boroughs. That's the challenge. My. Like, they hurt. They're really big. But other than that, it's been. It's been a blessing to have a supply. I'm very grateful. I know not everybody has that.
- [30:33]
B
That's really beautiful. I need to let you know Something beautiful. Speaking of beauty, today's episode of the Toast is brought to you by America's Sweethearts, Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders coming back to Netflix season two, premiering on June 18th.
- [30:46]
A
So perfect timing for Swirly Summer because Jackie literally sent me the article. She said, do not watch this until July 1st, until we're all together. Because we are watching it this summer.
- [30:53]
B
Because last summer we watched DCC America's Sweethearts on Netflix and it was the perfect family show. It was so cute. It was so good. I've always been obsessed with DCC because I am ahead of every single trend. And my husband is a Cowboys fan. So I came to know the Dallas Cowboys cheerleader Humble Bragg early in life. And so I knew how amazing this show was going to be. And it is even better than you could ever imagine. And now season two is coming to Netflix on June 18th. So all seven episodes will release at once. Thank you. At 12:00am Pacific Time, 2:00am Central Time. And they will be available globally in 190 plus countries. So season two is going to be all about unprecedented access. It's very real and vulnerable storytelling. The duality of being a Dall Boys Dallas Cowboys cheerleader. What it's like in the audition room and on the field on game days, but also back home during the in between personal moments. We got to know so many fantastic girls last season. Some swirlies, of course, you learn their backstories, everything that goes into being a cheerleader. It's just such a good show. And if you haven't watched season one yet, you better get caught up because we're watching season two and we'll be recapping it and we'll be loving it. So watch season two of America's Sweethearts June 18th only on Netflix. And that is my bat Mitzvah anniversary. And I don't think that's a coincidence.
- [32:09]
A
Me neither.
- [32:10]
B
Happy anniversary to me. Today's episode of the Toast is also brought to you by Resort Pass. Heart My weekends and the joy in my life are brought to you by Resort Pass. Because with Resort Pass, you can access the best pools, spas and cabanas at top hotels and resorts with no overnight stay required. So many times you want to use the pool at a place, the spa, the beach access. Because I would love a little restaurant front pool, beach at the pool. But I'm not staying overnight. You know, I've got things to do and I live down the road. Hey, can I just come for the day? Yes, I can. With Resort Pass, they've partnered with 2000 plus luxury hotels. So there's always a dreamy spot nearby. No membership, no hassle. Passes start at $25. So you can go on Resort Pass right now. Take a look at what's in your area. If you want to go on a trip, if you want to go on a road trip, just spend the day at a party hotel. Resort Pass is going to make you able to do that. Book a day pass in under five minutes and turn an ordinary day into something unforgettable. And that's the great part. Every time we've done a Resort Pass day, it's been the best day. One of our, like, chorus memory days. Like, just a golden day. And anytime I'm like, we don't have plans this weekend, let's do something special. But I don't want to commit to too much. Resort Pass is seriously always the answer. So visit resortpass.com toast and use code toast at checkout for 20 off your first purchase. That's r E S O R T p a s s.com/t o a S.
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A
T. Also life hack Toast in the city. It's so hot. It's, like, hard to find a place to swim or like an indoor spa over the summer. Resort Pass is a great, like, little life hack. You have to book a room or anything.
- [33:40]
B
Yes. Sashi just did a Resort Pass spa day and loved it. So get $20 off your first booking with code toast@resortpass.com. today's episode of the Toast is also brought to you by neutral. So as a woman, so real hair loss hair care, it's also real. As we get older, as we go through hormonal changes, seasonal changes, so environmental changes, so many different things can affect your hair for the worse. And so we need things that are going to change it for the better. And that's where neutrophil comes in. Because Nutrafol are daily supplements that help with hair health, hair growth, scalp health, all of the things that will have you feeling stronger and better in your hair. Because our hair is such a core part of our identity and it's not something you just want to see go. There are things that you can do, and neutral is one of those things.
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A
They also have, like, multiple formulas for, like, different, especially for women in different stages. Obviously, like postpartum menopause, like, different stages of life can cause hair issues. And so they have, like, targeted formulas for different parts of your life, which I really appreciate.
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B
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- [35:35]
A
I ask you a question? Are you not using a timer?
- [35:38]
B
I do sometimes.
- [35:39]
A
Okay.
- [35:40]
B
But when I'm live doing it I don't because I've got like, you know, I feel like of course a spy with all my different gadgets but if I pre record them, I, I but you know, I'm winging it.
- [35:52]
A
I wanted to say one more thing about motherhood that I like. A thought that I had that I wanted to share because I feel like I'm kind of like the, you know, I'm always talking about how like I timed it so perfectly and like I really waited till I was ready and so many people said to me, including you, that really stuck with me was like, you know you're gonna love motherhood so much, you're gonna wish you did it sooner. Right? Like you, I remember when you wrote me a card last year, I think for my birthday you were like talking about how I was such an amazing sister and I've been such a great aunt because you had obviously like a tough year with Charlie and and I was, you said like, you know, I was pregnant. When you were pregnant you were like, it's going to be like one of those things that I told you to do like reading and Downton Abbey. Like you're going to wish you did it sooner. And I was just having this conversation with Lauren Elena because we were two days apart due date wise. She went so over and I went so under. Literally. She just gave birth and I almost have a one month old. Like that's how crazy it is. But she was like, oh my God, I wish I did it Sooner. And it really got me thinking, like, do I wish I did it sooner? And honestly, no. Like, let me tell you why I feel like I'm enjoying it so much. And if I was, like, when I was younger, I was, like, so impatient and so, like, such a brat that I. If I was doing, like, all these, like, night feedings, I would be a monster. And I don't think I would be enjoying it as much. And I think I'd be, like, really mean to Ben. I think, like, I did it. You know, Everything obviously happens for a reason, and timing is everything. But, like, I don't. I don't have that feeling. Like, I wish I did it sooner. Do you know what I mean?
- [37:10]
B
Yes. But I also feel like if you're ever going to feel that way, I wouldn't expect it to be right now.
- [37:16]
A
Oh, okay.
- [37:16]
B
You know?
- [37:17]
A
Yeah.
- [37:17]
B
Because you're, like, in the trenches. Like, it's like, why would I want to do this hard thing sooner? I'm glad that I'm more prepared.
- [37:22]
A
Yeah, right. No, and also, there's so many things that go into it, obviously, like, getting your mind right. And I feel like I've only recently gotten my mind right. If I'm being completely honest, financially, like, it's such a. Not a burden, but, like, obviously it's, like, a lot expensive, like, hospital bills.
- [37:34]
B
Even if you're not buying a crib for your son.
- [37:36]
A
Right. Which I didn't, by the way. And everybody was like, oh, I see that you. That you bought a crib. Like, you obviously got the one you wanted. No. Okay. See, I told you.
- [37:43]
B
She made it work.
- [37:44]
A
I made it work. Thank you, baby list. What was I saying?
- [37:49]
B
No, no, I hear what you're saying. That you're in a good spot now, but, like, one, you might have that if you ever feel that way, I think it might come later. Okay. Two, you could argue, perhaps, that if you did it sooner, even when you weren't, like, as mature as you are now, like, it might have matured you. Because it's the sort of thing that changes a person. However, there's no way to know.
- [38:11]
A
There's nobody.
- [38:11]
B
I think. I think the timing is all right.
- [38:14]
A
And I think, in the words of Garrett Hedlund from my favorite Gwyneth Paltrow movie, timing is everything.
- [38:19]
B
And seriously, who wants to live with a regret like that? Like, that's totally, like. No, it's how I like it. It's good.
- [38:26]
A
40 minutes later, I'm ready for the first story.
- [38:29]
B
Justin Bieber declares he's a dad that's not to be with. In a bizarre Father's Day 2025 post. So literally BSA like Justin Bieber is continuing erratic social media behavior. We can posted a selfie yesterday on Father's Day saying, I'm a dad that's not to be with Middle finger. Then he also posted literally, huda oh, from Love is Blind. Yeah, Love is blind Island.
- [38:57]
A
Love is blind. Love is blind.
- [39:01]
B
Then he also posted a series of text messages with a former friend.
- [39:04]
A
Like, yeah, I don't want to drop the name.
- [39:06]
B
I don't want to say lashing out at him. Because it's not lashing out if you're acting out of trauma, says Justin. But him turning on his friend, it's like a series of three screenshots, and that person's no longer his friend. He didn't say who. It was kind of random that he posted it. So it was just like a complex day for Justin yesterday.
- [39:24]
A
He's still, like, spinning out. Although Haley is over here, like, maintaining everything's good. There was also that paparazzi video of Justin in a blue hoodie, like, begging the paparazzi to leave him alone because he's standing on business. Okay.
- [39:36]
B
Yeah.
- [39:37]
A
But then Haley commented on a girl boss town, tick tock. Where she was just like, paparazzi, leave Justin alone. Like, we literally don't need to see a picture of him going from his van to his door. Like, we don't give a. And Haley commented like, exactly. So Haley's over here maintaining, like, it's all good. When, like, it's. Is it all good? I don't know. But I think when you've just sold your company for a billion dollars, everything is good.
- [39:57]
B
You know, just sort of washes clean everything.
- [40:00]
A
Right. Why doesn't somebody buy my company for a billion dollars? And I'll just test that theory, you know?
- [40:05]
B
Yeah. And then you could start yelling at the proper paparazzi and, like, does it matter? No.
- [40:10]
A
No, it doesn't. And the paparazzi have been such, like, an issue in my life that I obviously resonate with this completely because I was paparazzi one time out of tmz, outside of Catch by tmz, those photos.
- [40:19]
B
Never make it to air.
- [40:21]
A
They never.
- [40:21]
B
So it has a day.
- [40:23]
A
It has been an issue, a big.
- [40:24]
B
One in your life.
- [40:26]
A
And the thing is, it's actually better that those photos never saw the light of day because I forgot to share when we shared that story recently, that I had the biggest visible panty line in the dress that I was wearing, like, Actually offensively large. Oh, speaking of visible panty lines, I don't know why that just reminded me. I did also want to talk about the fact that I've restarted the show Girls.
- [40:44]
B
I don't want to talk about that.
- [40:45]
A
I know, but I have. I have one thought. Ben had never seen it, and I just had a feeling he would love it. And I was right. He's obsessed.
- [40:51]
B
It was good, and before it got bad, like, there was a moment in time where it was lightning in a bottle and it was, like, so good.
- [40:58]
A
No, no, it's so good. It is some of the funniest writing. I don't find the show particularly relatable. It was one of those shows where it's like, there's four girls. Which one are you? A Samantha, A Carrie? No, it's not like that. I don't know if anyone's lived experience is even remotely relatable to those four freaks in Brooklyn, but I believe. And my major takeaway is it's kind of a. If you want to have the conversation about nepotism, let's start with Allison Williams, the worst actress to ever walk the earth. Now, I'm sure that she has gone on to improve her skills because she was in that, you know, very popular Jordan Peele movie, Get out, and she's gone on to do great things, but her first ever job as an actress was this hit HBO primetime show because her father is, you know, now disgraced news anchor Brian Williams. Is that his name?
- [41:44]
B
Yeah.
- [41:45]
A
She is the worst actress to ever act. Like it's an assault on the art form of acting. It's shocking that. And everyone else is a nepo baby in that show, too. Lena Dunham's dad, Zosia Mamet's dad, Jemima Kirk. Everyone's parent is someone famous. She is glaringly nepotistic. She is awful at her job. And I feel like sometimes we talk about nepotism where it's like, well, are you deserving of it? Like Gwyneth Paltrow at, you know, 21 winning an Oscar, like, she was going to be famous regardless. I don't give a who her dad was or her mom. Allison Williams was going nowhere before her father. Like, she's a true character study in nepotism. She definitely got better because, like, I know she went on to do big things, but, oh, my God, she's the. Marnie is the worst actress ever. I'm like, are. Is this a joke?
- [42:32]
B
Well, I feel like when they got cast also, it was like a bunch of Nepo kids. They were probably friends. Nobody knew it was going to be like the next biggest show. Denim was like a first time writer, just like sort of hit. And it could have gone. It could have been just like a weird artsy film. It's not like she got cast In Dakota Johnson, 50 Shades of Gray.
- [42:48]
A
No prior work, which is still like, that's the craziest act of nepotism to ever shake.
- [42:53]
B
That's the craziest act of nepotism.
- [42:55]
A
Your first job ever. Like, you have no experience.
- [42:58]
B
Like, like the biggest franchise of all time, guaranteed hit. So I'm going to give Alice Williams like a little bit of a pass there. How does it make you feel about Lena Dunham? Like, is she a once in a generation talent?
- [43:10]
A
Okay. It actually makes me feel really conflicted because while her character is horrible and we hate and whatever, she wrote everything, she's a creator of the show and obviously like I'm normal. I dislike Lena Dunham, but I dislike her for reasons. I feel like people just dislike her because she's like yucky. Yeah. Like, but I just like her for that one article she wrote about Jack Antonoff being like having a Jewish boyfriend. It was deeply anti Semitic and beyond problematic and I've never been able to move past that. I can acknowledge my own biases. It's literally because of this one article. People don't like the semi she wrote in her book about like molestation. She says like a. I don't even.
- [43:42]
B
Like, don't even remind me.
- [43:43]
A
Like for me it's just, it starts and ends with that article.
- [43:47]
B
But I think that the book thing was weird. Sorry.
- [43:49]
A
Like, yeah, no, agreed, agreed, agreed, agreed, agreed.
- [43:51]
B
I totally forgot about that.
- [43:52]
A
Having said that, like, she's extremely funny and talented. Like the writing is.
- [44:00]
B
She's a new show coming out.
- [44:01]
A
I know. With my queen, Meg Stalter, who plays the assistant in Hacks. Jimmy's assistant.
- [44:07]
B
Maybe you should watch it.
- [44:08]
A
I know. Like, the thing is I'm conflicted because. And also she saw something in Adam Driver none of us saw because he was like this random weird actor. This is his first role in Girls and he is the biggest star in the now Star wars because of her. So listen, you know, she's definitely having a redemption era because she's been like popping up a lot and this new show I think is going to be really good and I'm having a girls renaissance. Like, I'm sorry. It is really good.
- [44:36]
B
Are you having a Lena Dunham summer?
- [44:38]
A
No, no, no, no, no. Don't tell anyone that.
- [44:41]
B
I'M not title Claudia Ashray. No, I'm not.
- [44:45]
A
I'm not. I never said that. I'm just saying Ben Safer is having a Lena Dunham summer. He thinks it's so funny.
- [44:51]
B
That is funny that he thinks it's funny. While I have you on the subject of Justin Bieber, we need to know your thoughts on road sale and Haley's post about the. Justin's post about Haley's Vogue cover.
- [45:03]
A
We. I think I was on the show for Vogue's.
- [45:05]
B
The Vogue.
- [45:06]
A
Okay.
- [45:07]
B
Oh, okay, okay.
- [45:08]
A
The road sale obsessed. Like you love to see women in business now obviously I'm toxic and so I'm obviously going to compare road to rare beauty because it's like celebrity LED brands, beauty space and you know we just love to see that like we love to see like road doing its thing. Sorry. And I just, I love when people make a billion dollars. Like obviously I wish it could have been me but if it wasn't going to be me, I was really happy. I'm a Haley style.
- [45:35]
B
She needs like she needed that.
- [45:37]
A
She did. Like she's so underestimated and everybody she just gets. And I think the Justin Baldoni thing like really highlighted like what is going on on the Internet when it comes to the vitriol being sent Haley Bieber's way. Like you could dislike something she did or she could not be your favorite person. But it's really fudgeing crazy what has gone on with hailey bieber for 10 years for all that she's been with this billion dollars is penance or whatever. Whatever the word is like she deserves it. It's she restitution. Yes. Thank you. She deserves it. She needs this billion dollars. She needs to relax. The products are amazing.
- [46:11]
B
She needs to relax but also like keep them coming. My whole face is road.
- [46:15]
A
Me too. That road toner is the best beauty product of all time. Like I just want to say I.
- [46:19]
B
Used to feel in trickle bottle.
- [46:21]
A
Yes. I used it throughout my entire pregnancy. It's in my skincare routine. It's in my makeup routine. It is the best thing. Obviously the pept road Pep, Liptide, peptide, lip tides, whatever the they're called obsessed. I'm wearing one right now.
- [46:32]
B
Like yeah, but like a gloss is a no brainer.
- [46:35]
A
Everything she makes is amazing.
- [46:37]
B
I hope they scrub. I just finished mine.
- [46:39]
A
Pineapple. Yes. The marketing has been like a true exercise in how to use influencers and and how to receive feedback from the Internet that's not necessarily positive and like implement it into your brands. Like that was Something that happened with her blushes. Like. Like, she released a bunch of blushes and this really popular makeup creator was like, these don't work for anybody who's, like, not pale as hell. And she worked with that creator, came out with a whole line. Like, she just took the feedback. It's just. It's brilliant. I'm sorry. It's an exercise in how to make products for women. Make products for the Internet. Like, I love it.
- [47:07]
B
Yeah.
- [47:08]
A
I hope Elf doesn't ruin it.
- [47:10]
B
Yeah. But Joey, it was actually great. We had Joey on when we discussed the sale of road, and he's a makeup artist. Like, we forget because he's also, like, a star. A million other things, but he was saying how this is going to be so great because Elf, like, they are able to make products cheaper, not. Not changing the quality just because of the volume of the orders that they place.
- [47:27]
A
It's true. Elf products are $3 for everyone, and they're premium as hell. It's like the best drugstore brand out there.
- [47:34]
B
Right. So he was very excited about it.
- [47:36]
A
No, he's so right for that. I'm very excited about it, too. And then the Vogue cover, like, a lot of Justin Bieber's social media activity, like, I don't give a fuck about. Like, some people monitor everything. They're like, that's rude. And he's talking about Selena. Like, I literally don't give a fuck. I never even. The story you were mentioning, like, could I have changed the subject faster? Like, I don't care. This Vogue cover one, that one caught my attention. That one was really bad. But, like, Haley remains unbothered. Billionaire queens, you know, says everything's fine. So I don't know. Once again, I'm left confused.
- [48:05]
B
Yeah, Yeah, I agree. I'm just sort of, like, on the sidelines. I'm not gonna put too much. I'm not gonna, like, join a team.
- [48:11]
A
No, I'm just. I'm gonna stay using the road toner.
- [48:14]
B
Same. Our next story is actually some funny Doja Cat news because Doja Cat's going viral for a fan encounter that she experienced. A video went viral of a fan. He's also an influencer. His name is Pablo. And it's a video of him, like, praising Doja Cat. He sees her outside of a building or whatever, and, like, they're hugging and she loves his T shirt and she wants one. He said, I made it. And he takes it off and gives it to her and then, like, holds her and kisses her. And then it's like, what's your real name, by the way. And she shares her real name, and she actually seems, like, really, like, excited to meet him. And you wouldn't think anything of it, just, like, a fan interaction. Then Doja Cat went on Twitter and started tweeting. She says, bottom line is, I'll smile at you, but it doesn't mean I with you. And don't touch me and manhandle me when you don't even know me if you know. You know, I honestly think I need to stand up for myself in the moment sometimes. And he didn't even know my name. To be touching me and kissing me on my face, like, that is crazy. Then she said, I threw that musty ass shirt away, by the way.
- [49:13]
A
Literally. Lol. Lol.
- [49:17]
B
What are your thoughts?
- [49:18]
A
Okay, so I. I feel two ways, because I. I agree that, like, fan culture is so crazy. Like, the way celebrities get manhandled is really nuts. Like, people are just like, animals. Animals. Yeah. But, like, it's hard to. To know that he was crossing a line when you were engaging so heavily. You know what I mean? Like, I didn't. I watched a video and I didn't think anything of it, but then I saw her reaction. I'm like, okay, that's valid too. Like, yeah, I. I actually don't know.
- [49:46]
B
No, but I feel like she did the right thing in the moment. Like, you would. You would have never known that she was not enjoying it. Like, she gave that fan, like, every bit of shine that she had. Like, literally are hugging up like best friends. He does kiss her on the face. He's literally holding her by the arms. So I don't know what she, like, successfully got away with hating the interaction, but looking like she liked it. So I don't know why she then, like, went on to Twitter to, like, say that it was the opposite of that, but maybe just so to not encourage more people to do it. Because I do agree, like, him kissing on the face and he's a dojo fam, but he doesn't know her real name.
- [50:17]
A
Like, yeah, I guess.
- [50:18]
B
But, like, like, you know, Stephanie German. Like, if I saw Lady Gaga, like, you know someone's real name when you're, like, a fan of theirs.
- [50:26]
A
Well, Lady Gaga is not Doja Cat.
- [50:28]
B
No, but, like, he's a fan waiting outside for her. So, like, he's that level of.
- [50:32]
A
I do feel like a lot of celebrities, like, have thoughts on this and they put in place, like, boundaries that, like, no one would even be able to get close to them to kiss them on. The face. Do you know what I mean? And that's. Yeah. That's their boundaries, and it's the right thing for them to do for themselves. Some people love it, and they. Maddie Healeys goes out and makes out with fans. Right. Like, so I feel like the better way to handle this would have this to been, like, for Doja Cat to be, like, this is a lesson that, like, I needed to learn. I do not want to be kissed or touched. Like, you can give people less access to you. Do you know what I mean? But, like, you can't, like, go balls deep in fan culture and then be mad when people don't act. Right. Like, fan culture is insane.
- [51:07]
B
Yeah. But in the moment, if she had, like, been a little standoffish and, like, not okay with the touch, it would have gone viral in the other way of, like.
- [51:15]
A
But I would have been defending her because, like, that's valid.
- [51:17]
B
Me too. And I'm not. I actually. She did say the shirt was musty.
- [51:23]
A
Yeah.
- [51:23]
B
She took it a little beyond that. I do think, like, her giving him what he wanted in that moment, making herself uncomfortable because she didn't want to, like, yep. Be a. Not a people pleaser and then saying, you know what? Like, don't touch me. Like, that fans, like, I don't like it. I think that would have been totally fine. It got a little harsh with the musty.
- [51:38]
A
With the musty, which is, like, if anybody ever calls me musty, just, like, meet me on the Queensborough Bridge. I'm jumping. And I actually am the definition of musty these days, because the way you, like, sweat and smell postpartum, especially if you're breastfeeding, like, nobody told me that when you breastfeed, like, you have an aversion to deodorant. I put on deodorant 55 times a day, but, like, it doesn't work, right.
- [51:55]
B
Not enough. Well, you're like, glands are working overtime.
- [51:58]
A
Yeah. Yeah. And I remember when we were at the West Hampton Beach Performing Arts center doing a meet and greet. There was a toaster there who had given birth, like, three days ago. There was literally a placenta hanging out of her. And she was like, I got this ticket, and I went into labor early. Like, I don't care. I'm still coming. She's like, I'm really sorry if I smell. I'm like, why would you smell? She was like, when you just are postpartum, you smell. And I gave her a hug. Like, she didn't really smell, but I was like, it stuck with Me, I'm like, oh, I might smell. Oh, she was underselling the smell.
- [52:19]
B
No, you're like sweating out all of the hormones that you've built up over.
- [52:22]
A
10 months and you're sweating out 24 7.
- [52:24]
B
Yeah, yeah. So perhaps if anybody calls you that. Done.
- [52:32]
A
Yeah, I definitely am musty. But it's probably the meanest thing you could say to someone. But when I wake up and I look in the mirror and like I've obviously been sweating throughout the night and I sleep in just my nursing bra, it's a really scary sight, me waking up a diaper and a nursing bra and I look in the mirror. I guess like the actual perfect word to describe how I look is musty.
- [52:52]
B
And are you wearing a musty ass bra?
- [52:55]
A
No, I'm keeping my bras so clean. I change my bra every single day I have.
- [52:59]
B
Which is like. I know that sounds like. Well, of course. Like you change your eyes. Of course. No, no, no. But like no one changes their bra every single day.
- [53:07]
A
No, no, but I have four. And I wash it every day so that I'm never left without, you know, it's a full time job staying on top of my kindred braverly collection of nursing bras.
- [53:17]
B
Understood. You are braverly. You're a wizard of braverly place.
- [53:25]
A
Title.
- [53:28]
B
Our next story is a little biz news because David Beckham is launching a new snack line inspired by his love of beekeeping. If this were anyone else.
- [53:38]
A
Actually, yeah, I was about to roll my eyes.
- [53:41]
B
Like a new snack line inspired by their love of blank. Like, shut up.
- [53:45]
A
The Netflix documentary is the best thing that ever happened to those two.
- [53:49]
B
Yeah. Because when I think of like celebrity beekeepers, I do think of David Beckham.
- [53:53]
A
Yes, 100%. And then they also got that uber eats campaign from the super bowl because.
- [53:57]
B
Of the whole tell them, they tell.
- [53:59]
A
Them and then they made a line of merch. Victoria Beckham. It's the best thing to ever happen to them. I love that. I'm a big fan of them. Celebrity product lines are getting a little crazy. I've never been one to be like celebrities launching brands. I happen to love it, especially in the beauty and skincare space. Like, I think some people have a lot of negative things to say about it. It's so oversaturated. Whatever. I literally don't give a.
- [54:19]
B
The snacks like are yay or nay.
- [54:23]
A
It's kind of a nay for me.
- [54:25]
B
I, I don't mind them because I feel like they're usually filling a gap and I find that like a Lot of celebrities, especially like celebrities who have become moms. Like, they go and create the snack that we all want to give our kids.
- [54:36]
A
Like Jennifer Garner, Once Upon a Farm.
- [54:39]
B
Pargie, Jessica Beale, Kinderlight. Like, by the way, why can't I find Kinderlight anywhere? I need to be the amount of Kinderlight we go through in this house. I want to be on your PR list. And I also feel like we try a lot of celebrity snacks because we're on PR list. Like, I don't know if I would be so engaged.
- [54:56]
A
Yeah, agreed. What is he making?
- [54:59]
B
So he is making a line of kid approved fruit snacks that evolved from his passion for beekeeping. His fruit snack line is called Be Up. It's available in three flavors, Very berry tropical mix and sour watermelon. I don't feel like the fruit snack space is oversaturated yet.
- [55:14]
A
No, definitely not the specific fruit snack aisle. Like, we're good.
- [55:18]
B
Like, what. When you go for a fruit snack, what do you go for?
- [55:21]
A
What the is a fruit snack? I go for a fruit roll up.
- [55:23]
B
A gusher would be like the toxic version. And then like, smart sweets would be on the other side, I think so.
- [55:30]
A
Ben and I love the red, like, wallaby licorice. We do like smart sweets. I love the toxic, of course. Fruit roll up. Anything made by like, General Mills for roll up fruit by the foot Gushers I heavily with. So I guess, yeah, I do participate in fruit snack culture.
- [55:46]
B
Yeah. My husband loves, like a fruit snack gummy little thing. He loves it. Well, like, you know, nerds rope.
- [55:54]
A
Ben loves nerds Gummy clusters.
- [55:57]
B
Ugh. They love them.
- [55:58]
A
First.
- [55:59]
B
I will be buying be up to supplant my husband's obsession with nerds rope.
- [56:05]
A
This is a. A celebrity brand. I might be sitting out. You know, I. I don't think that this applies to me. I love David Beckham and I know things have gotten, like, way worse with him in Brooklyn.
- [56:17]
B
Oh, that's also. But there have been a couple of recurring stories that you've missed over the last few weeks. Haley and Justin Bieber, the Beckhams.
- [56:25]
A
Baldoni.
- [56:26]
B
Baldoni keeps popping up lively.
- [56:29]
A
I've never. I actually really miss being here. And, like, every time something happens, I like. Like, I'm so, like, mad that I can't give my thoughts because my thoughts are the best thoughts in my opinion. But every time I see a Beljoni story, I'm like, honestly, thank God I'm not on the toes. Like, I can't be out here keeping defending myself.
- [56:43]
B
Like, you know, I ignore this ones that like I think are we are able to.
- [56:46]
A
Because every minutiae becomes a story, right?
- [56:49]
B
The ones that have come up in the last few weeks. Like you actually have to discuss Taylor Swift, Scott Swift.
- [56:54]
A
I know Scooter. I know.
- [56:57]
B
They drop the defamation it Claudia, it's been a dark time.
- [57:01]
A
We'll talk about it on Patreon. Honestly, I. I don't have the mental fortitude today to continue to defend myself.
- [57:07]
B
I just feel like a lot of people are going to listen to today's episode. I'm going to repeat my advice that I have for the two of them, which is that you need to meet and you need to drop it. You need to just end this both.
- [57:15]
A
Why? I feel like it's like the best thing to happen to Justin Baldoni. Like his name, his name was like effectively tarnished for 35 seconds in December. And he will not let it go and he will not rest until every allegation against him is completely dispelled.
- [57:29]
B
Yeah. And he's winning and he needs to get his stuff back. Like, he needs his agency.
- [57:34]
A
He needs his podcast host.
- [57:36]
B
I still want to talk to that girl desperately.
- [57:38]
A
Have her co host.
- [57:39]
B
Why she jumps. It wouldn't be a co host, would be a co roast. Why'd you jump ship so fast?
- [57:44]
A
Right.
- [57:46]
B
Anyways, Be up by David Beckham will be available one day somewhere, hopefully like at Thrive Market. Then I'll try it.
- [57:56]
A
It's such a Thrive Market product. Is that the sponsor?
- [57:59]
B
No.
- [58:00]
A
Is that your segue into the second ad break?
- [58:02]
B
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A
Oh, my favorite.
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B
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A
Our next story. Let me say something. I love when you do the ads because I can check my phone and I was just checking the family chat and something insane is going down. Let me read it. Don't check. Okay.
- [60:58]
B
Okay. So in our family or in the world?
- [61:02]
A
No, in our family. Okay, so I just opened the chat and there's like six photos of this notebook that mom found. It's like from a million years ago. And on the first page, it says, claudia Ashray, intern. So obviously this was like a notebook I planned on using at some internship. The first page, someone else's handwriting. It's Margot, I'm pooping. I didn't bring my phone to the bathroom because it has to charge before dinner, and I'm very bored without it. I really hope you didn't need this journal because that would be very awkward. And then she dated it. January, February, March, April 2, 2015, 5:00pm the next page. This is obviously at 7:30, two hours later. Margo, I love this idea. Sorry, I totes love this idea. I'm pooping now. Also kind of sharp. Wow. How bad is my handwriting? See you next time. Next time was June 10th. So two months later, Margo constipated. OMG. Totes forgot about this. I'm having a super seamless poop right now. Smelly, though illy mgo.
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B
Is that all?
- [62:07]
A
No. Then the next. Oh, no, that is July 5th, I wrote in the doghouse. I don't know what that's referencing. Then July 16th, Margot. She's gonna kill me for reading this. Just began my poop with a ripe fart. Wow. I hope the rest goes smoothly. And then she signs it. Seriously, this is the funniest thing.
- [62:29]
B
Do you recall doing that?
- [62:31]
A
Save it. I kind of do, yeah.
- [62:33]
B
What's the outside of the notebook?
- [62:34]
A
Okay. It has a big Twitter. It's obviously. It's like Twitter merch from our days working in media.
- [62:39]
B
Yeah, that sounds right.
- [62:41]
A
Yeah.
- [62:42]
B
Our next story. Something else that big that happened while you were gone. I'm glad we get to talk about it. Is Haley Seinfeld and Josh Allen got married. And now she's revealing all the magical details about the unforgettable wedding weekend. So Haley Seinfeld has a newsletter called.
- [62:55]
A
Yeah. Did anybody else think the rollout of her wedding photos was really weird and annoying and it was giving on the jlo?
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B
Well, yes. So at first she was giving nothing. Like, there was aerial paparazzi photos, but then there was nothing else. No Vogue spread? No nothing. And then Friday, a bunch of pictures came out from, like, her party planner and, like, people who worked with her sharing, like, pictures from inside the wedding. So.
- [63:15]
A
And then her. Her newsletter is called the Bow Society. And then they posted something on Instagram being like, if you see the photos anywhere, like, report them. It was just all, like, really weird.
- [63:25]
B
Oh, that's weird. But then, so she shared. She was torn between wanting to share every detail and wanting to keep them close to her heart of Course, she ultimately decided to divulge all the moments that she and Josh can't stop thinking about.
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A
Sickening, she said.
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B
I'm sitting here with Josh. Like, her husband, Josh Allen.
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A
Like, biggest quarterback, the hottest man on the planet.
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B
Yeah. And we're reminiscing on the best weekend of our lives for the millionth time. Over the past two weeks, random yet specific memories have been popping back into our heads. We've had been blurting them out to each other, often through smiles, laughs, and tears.
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A
No. I love these two and everything. She looks so sickening. Oh, my God. Her every dress, every look, her glam. Everyone's talking about her nails like that. It was like the best manicure they'd ever seen in their entire lives. Like, her fingers were perfect. And you can see the manicure, like, through the gloves. That glove photo, everyone's loving.
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B
Okay.
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A
She's just so pretty, and she so doesn't try hard. That's what's so cool about her, right? And she just, like, fell in love with this guy, and he happens to be, like, the coolest, this guy. Everybody loves him in the football space. Like, everything she does is so cool. The wedding was everything I expected and more like glamour. Three looks. Hair up, hair down, feathers, couture. I just loved it. I saw a lot of hate being sent her way for the tent that they got married under. Like, people just thought it was ugly.
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B
Like, the black and white scallop thing.
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A
It wasn't for me, but, like, it still looked pretty.
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B
Yeah. Like, you could never.
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A
You could never. That one photo of her that's, like, gone viral of her in her first dress. The sun is in her eyes, and so she's just, like, covering her eyes with her hand.
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B
I see it.
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A
Seconding. I. This is like a celebrity wedding. I care a lot about the way people, like, cream their pants for Sofia Richie. This is my Sofia Richie. Like, I love these two.
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B
It's our Sofia Richie of this year. We haven't. We don't have our wedding of the year yet. To me, this is a front runner. Like, last year we had Olivia Culpo. The year before, we had Richie. And this year it was a tie between Demi Lovato and Haley Seinfeld. With Haley eking out a win, I.
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A
Don'T feel like it was a tie. I didn't feel like they were even playing in the same league. Honestly, I thought Debbie looked beautiful.
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B
And I love Haley.
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A
I love Debbie's era of like, being just like a normal, like, Texas tick tocker.
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B
She just, like, makes Content traditional.
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A
Yeah, love like love like seriously love that for her. But her wedding was like nobody moved. Sorry. She looked pretty but nobody moved. This is the wedding of the year for sure. Do you think that and I, Haley Seinfeld is Jewish. Do you think that the tent was a chuppah? Like do you think it was a Jewish wedding?
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B
Like it wasn't.
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A
Not Right.
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B
That could be a chupa. I think it was like, I think if not they wouldn't have had that.
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A
Correct.
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B
So like if you are criticizing it, you're anti Semitic.
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A
Correct. And you know they have like a big house in Buffalo because they lowkey have to live there for like 80 of the year.
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B
Yeah, but they got married in Santa Barbara.
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A
Yes. Which is so pretty.
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B
Yeah. Partialish.
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A
I loved everything about it. Like the dress, dress. And it wasn't even like a high end designer. I hadn't even heard of the name. Like she just, she got the dress that she wanted. Do you know what I mean?
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B
Yeah, no, it was really, really a beautiful affair.
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A
And if I was getting married.
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B
Details.
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A
If I was getting married this year, I'd be saving a lot of this to my Pinterest board. Especially like the type of photos that they took. Like the, the, the wedding styles maybe not necessarily exactly what I would have done.
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B
Like flower wise, white and red.
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A
Yeah, right. But the photos that they got were so stylish but also classic and like trendy too. It was really, it was something like.
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B
Models, you have to remember.
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A
So obviously like me and Ben's photos if we copy them would look so like me, like, like confused, like squinting.
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B
It would be to the professionals.
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A
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right about that.
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B
Our fifth and final story is some Jews news because Natasha Leone is rumored to play Joan Rivers in an upcoming biopic called Can We Talk? So this is not confirmed, but this feels like it. It's probably true in the sense of it's happening. May not go all the way but like definitely these talks are happening. Natasha Leone, five time Emmy nominee, will play Joan Rivers in the upcoming biopic can we talk? Currently in development at Sony's 3000 Pictures.
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A
So Natasha Leone is from Orange is the New Black. For anyone that doesn't know, she's also Russian doll. Everybody loves that show but I don't watch it. She also went to our high school. Like when you go to the Wikipedia.
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B
Of our high school about us. But yeah, she went to our high school. That's why like, like we can confirm she is Jewish.
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A
She's the most famous alum and I'M still waiting for them to update that Wikipedia page to include us. But okay, it has. Literally there's someone, like, at the UN who went to our high school. Natasha Leone and Leandra Medine of Man Repeller. But also the toast. Like, where is our. Whatever.
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B
It's time.
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A
Whatever. I'm sorry, Wikipedia.
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B
The chip rears its head.
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A
Yeah. Once. We literally can't do one episode without the chip. I just want to say I adore this. This. There has been. I haven't heard it until right now, so this is my, like, first time reaction. There's been a lot of, like, things about Joan rumored. There was the Katherine Hahn. There's a lot of, like, pressure and there's always like, negativity when they cast someone mostly from us because it's such a big role to fill. And then there's also, like, Maisel, which they say was loosely based on Joan. There's Hacks, which they say is loosely based on Joan. And I actually think Deborah Vance is a great character to pay, like, to. To pay honor. To pay homage and honor Joan. But it's not a Joan biopic. It's not a Joan show. It's just like, loosely based. So they're gonna do it at some point. That Showtime show, like, got canceled. There's been, like, a lot of drama. I don't know when they're gonna do it, but if it is Natasha Leone, it has the turdy stab of approval, which I feel like when it comes to casting, Joan is kind of the only approval you need.
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B
Yeah. And it's a hard one to earn because they're very big shoes to fill. We would prefer someone Jewish, but if you had like a non Jew who would crush, like, I'm open.
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A
I'm open.
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B
But I do even the side by side pictures of them. Like, I could see Natasha. I need to see morphing into Joan. I'm at Farout magazine dot com.
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A
Yeah, you are. Yeah, you are.
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B
I'm at the Far out now, obviously.
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A
Like, you don't think Joan and you think Natasha Leone, but Natasha Leone is the kind of actress who really morphs.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Yeah. It's a chameleon, if you will.
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B
And she's very.
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A
I can see it. I'm not Far out magazine.
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B
Like, she's not like, you know, she doesn't star in flops. Like, she doesn't star in movies. I feel like community theater. Like, this means it's getting like the Oscar treatment.
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A
Do you know that Joan Rivers government name is Joan Malinsky?
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B
Where does the Rivers come From.
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A
I don't know.
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B
I'm not shocked. Everyone has a stage name.
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A
Oh. Melissa Rivers. The only child of comedian Joan Rivers has given Leone official blessing to step into the role. Melissa will also join as a producer on the project. One thing about Melissa, she's gonna produce.
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B
One thing. I'm. Listen, she's gonna be there.
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A
She's gonna be there. Like, I appreciate her commitment to having her full time job be Joan River's daughter. And when that, when Joan was alive, obviously that was like a much busier role, but she's booked and busy.
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B
Yeah. But now it's like the preservation of Joan's legacy, which I do think is a full time job. And I'm glad that there's someone there.
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A
Thousand percent.
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B
Yeah. Yeah. So I think this, this bodes well. Like won't get our stuff. It's not confirmed.
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A
Cautiously.
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B
Optimism is right, you know.
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A
Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.
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B
And I feel like maybe they put it out there just to like see how people reacted. Because people reacted poorly when it was Catherine.
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A
Catherine Hahn. Yeah.
- [70:37]
B
And I feel like the reaction is going to be positive and they might move forward due to that reaction.
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A
Let's do a little Love island recap.
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B
Forgot.
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A
And let me tell you, I don't know if I mentioned this on the birth story, but the second I gave birth, my coccydinia returned in full force. I've never been in more pain in my life than I am in this moment. So just wanted to let everyone know, like, I know I look like a beauty queen, but I am suffering. Love Island. Let's go couple by couple, giving our thoughts on everyone. Obviously things are changing, but the, the kind of name on everybody's lips is Huda and Jeremiah.
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B
Oh, yeah. I hate them. Well, she to me is like a villain of this story. There are a couple people who I'm like, you're the bad guy.
- [71:14]
A
Yep.
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B
Huda is one of them.
- [71:16]
A
But Jeremiah is also like no walk in the park. And he. Okay, I have something to say that I feel is really unpopular and it only made. Almost made a tick tock about it, but tick tock leaves no room for like nuance. And I would have gotten canceled for it, but. And I want to say this, and I'm saying this as a mother myself, this trope of people, but it's the references I'm referencing. It's both women going on dating shows and like making, establishing connections with someone and then dropping the bomb that they're a parent, which is a beautiful thing, but it is a, a big thing. In a relationship. You know, Jess did it on Love is Blind. Huda. Like, you're saving it. Not leading with the fact, like, yes, I'm a Scorpio. I live in Charlotte and I'm a mom. Like, yeah, holding it until the person has, like, started to fall for you. And then I don't love that. I think it's like a very strange. Now I've never been a single parent who's had to date and I imagine it's very difficult and people write you off immediately because they're not interested in dating someone without a. With. With kids. So I'm sympathetic, but. But I don't. I don't think it's a good way to go about dating on a reality show.
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B
I agree with you. I would just not directly compare Jess and Huda because I do think, like, people who go on Love is Blind and Love island, like, it's a completely different type of joke. They're looking for different things coming online violence. Look for the father of your child, like, is one of the crazier things that I've ever heard. Also leaving your child for however many weeks. It's a no contact show. They have no idea. I imagine they're letting her talk to her daughter.
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A
Yeah.
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B
But the hoops that she probably had to jump through to get that, like, it's a no contact show. They're literally on an island, isolated. They have no idea what's going on in the world.
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A
It's true.
- [72:49]
B
To do that to potentially what amazing love match comes from Love Island.
- [72:54]
A
Like, that's really Tommy and Molly.
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B
Oh, I'm. I take.
- [72:57]
A
Never mind control.
- [72:59]
B
But no, no, they're the exception to the rule. Like, you might find a boyfriend. Like, really? Have there been any Lius weddings?
- [73:07]
A
No.
- [73:08]
B
So the decision to come on Love island for that, like, just doesn't seem like congress will with what you are probably actually looking for by coming on Love Island. Love is blind. Like, really is for serious people. Now. I agree you should bring it up sooner. But I also. Love is fine. Is also about the connection. You're not sharing a lot of things. You're holding back a lot about yourself to see if the connections there.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Also, Jess can do no wrong in my eyes, so of course. Of course gonna hear me.
- [73:31]
A
No Huda. Okay. I wanted to say my favorite part of the season thus far was when Sierra was the new bombshell. The recoupling ceremony happens. Everyone's man, Shelly's man, or Landria's man. Everybody gets up except for Jeremiah to put themselves in the running for Shelly's choice. Excuse me, sorry. Sierra's choice. And Huda's like, oh, she's, like, getting all that. I don't like that. That makes me mad. You guys are better.
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B
Better.
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A
And it was very. I. I believe her intentions were pure, but she was. It was so patronizing. Was like, look, I have a guy who likes me, and none of you guys do. Like, you guys deserve what I'm on my level. Like, I hated it. And the fact that Orlando was like, girl, we don't need you to do that. Like, stop. Who just started crying was like, you're a mean girl. I'm sorry. It made me feel. I've loved Orlandria ever since. It was. It was such an annoying thing. She wouldn't let it go too. Like, Huda, like, oh, that makes me so mad. Oh, my God. I'm never gonna get over this. Oh, you guys need what I have Orlandra clocking it, being like, we're good. First of all, like, Taylor, I'll survive. And second of all, like, stop.
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B
Yeah.
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A
They tried to make her feel bad. And I. If this message ever reaches Orlando, I need her to know I was thinking the same thing. And I love that you said it. It.
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B
I know. But then when Huda and Alandra spoke, like, Elyn's just like, no, I didn't mean it like that.
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A
Walked it back.
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B
Yeah. She was like, I just meant we'll talk about it later. Like, this isn't the time. And I just feel like she should have, like, dug in and been like, no, you are doing too much. Like, you don't act holier than now.
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A
Orlandria saw like, that potentially because you're worried about what people are going to think. Like, she didn't want to be cast as a mean girl. Well, so here's who crying. And Huda was like, I was just trying to help you. Like, she didn't want to be seen as the villain, and she automatically undid it. But I believe that was what she meant in the moment. And I stand with her up until one.
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B
What I've seen the show is suffering from a lack of girls not wanting to step on each other's toes.
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A
Enter Iris.
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B
Enter Iris. But even so, they all come in. I'm here to shake up. I'm going for Nick and Jeremiah. I'm slipping through the cracks of Jeremiah and Huda. And then she goes to Jeremiah. I scared to talk to you.
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A
Right. Like, Amaya. When Amaya came in during the baseball challenge, and she was like, oh, I'm here to shake up. Yeah. I have found that, like, my thoughts on everyone are pretty much aligned with what people on social media think. Except people were like, amaya is a queen for demanding more from Ace. We hate Ace. They hate Ace. I love Ace.
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B
I hate Ace.
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A
I think he's so cute.
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B
I can't believe you like him. Wait, I have questioning for you. I have. Amaya fumbled the ball because Ace was dead wrong. And every. When they started fighting and he was like, these are my.
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A
The first conversation he was call me babe. Yes.
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B
He was just saying that to push her away because he always wanted Shelly.
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A
Why did you choose her?
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B
Well, that's what I have to ask you. A Stan because he's problematic and he knows make Shelly jealous. And then Shelly didn't give a. And he was like, oh, I have to throw Amaya to the curb. But, like, I'm sorry, his hibachi, like, I. I, like, was in genuine pain watching him trying.
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A
I'm not 100 breakfast. I'm not an ace defender. 100. I just happen to think he's really cute and sweet. And I think he likes Shelly. And, like, I think.
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B
I think he's. He's such trouble.
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A
And I hate Amaya. Like, I hate her. So the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
- [76:36]
B
I just need to know you're safe and, like, valid and hating both of them.
- [76:42]
A
Ace just has, like, a really cute smile. I don't know. I just think he's cute. Like, he's such a liar.
- [76:46]
B
He, like, so gaslit. Amaya being like, I. These are my boundaries. I don't want to cuddle. Like, I'm not going. I'm not going to do that. And then literally five minutes later, licking whipped cream off of Shelly.
- [76:56]
A
He obviously doesn't like Amaya, so why would you choose her?
- [76:58]
B
But why would you to choose her?
- [77:00]
A
I don't know. I don't know.
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B
All up. Like they should. Amaya, I mean, Shelly and Ace should, like, be in a couple right now to see if they even like each other, by the way. I don't think they do.
- [77:10]
A
Yeah, no, I think so, too.
- [77:11]
B
I don't think they do. I think it's a lack of attraction between a lot of the couples. It's, like, weird. It's like these. First of all, it's a pornographic show. Oh, my God. Sexless relationships. It's so weird. Like, they. None of them touch each other side of the challenges. Claudia. Someone is going to pull down someone's pants and give them a blowjob in a challenge. One day, Huda almost did it to Jeremiah in the leather and lace. I literally thought she was about to give him. But, like, where is the line? Like, they're seriously having sex, and then when you're talking on the couch, it's.
- [77:40]
A
Like, yeah, like, koi.
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B
I like yoga too, Jackie.
- [77:44]
A
I don't know how these people go home and look their parents in the eyes. Like, that baseball challenge was horrifying.
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B
I'm sorry. The baseball challenge changed me.
- [77:52]
A
Yeah, me too. For the worst.
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B
And then it, though, prepared me for leather and lace, which I thought was also really.
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A
You know when you, like, watch TV with your parents and there's, like, a sex scene and you feel weird? Like, I feel weird watching this with Ben. Like, it's literally weird.
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B
You should. It's also just extra weird when you think about the fact that, like, these people have no chemistry outside of the challenges. Like, Alondra and Taylor. Like, why aren't you guys further along? And I know things are about to change, and I'm glad I like Jalen. I'm so happy he's here.
- [78:22]
A
So I want a kiss on the mouth. Whoever handpicked this bombshell for Orlando because she deserves better. Taylor gives nothing to her to the show. He. I literally forget he's there. He's awful. And she's such a queen Orlandria. Ever since she clocked Tudor, like, I'm just. Yeah, she's got her head on, right? She's always giving really good advice to people, and she's, like, a true friend to a lot of the girls. So I've been waiting for her moment, and they couldn't have picked a better person. Now, when those first two men bombshells walked into the leather and lace party, I was like, where the hell did you find these ugly freaks? Like, they were set up so poorly in those outfits to walk in an outfit. Like, so not right.
- [78:57]
B
You seriously look like a. Like a male stripper. Like, not a thousand percent loving.
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A
I was like, ew.
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B
Then they both went, male strippers can't be serious. Love interest.
- [79:07]
A
Of course. Of course. But when Hannah started talking to Jalen, I was like, wait, Jalen is cute. I didn't. When they walked in, I was like, ew. Like, these. Both these guys are ugly. But then, like, when you heard them talk and wear normal outfits, I was like, oh, love this guy for Alandria. Pepe. Love Jalen. Like, he's so cute.
- [79:23]
B
Jalen is for Alandria.
- [79:25]
A
Oh, wait, am I mixing up their names?
- [79:27]
B
Pepe is between Sierra and Hannah.
- [79:29]
A
I loved him. With both Sierra and Hannah, I was like, I know, I know.
- [79:33]
B
But even though she just wants to.
- [79:36]
A
Hook up with everyone, she's like, self sabotage.
- [79:39]
B
No, she just like, she's, I don't know, she just like wants multiple partners. Like, that's why she's here. Like, some people are here for a relationship, some people are here for $100,000. Hannah is here to hook up with a lot of people and she's being upfront about her intentions.
- [79:53]
A
I find it so interesting because, like, there are people who come on the show. I'm like, oh, you're obviously like the best looking guy here, the best looking girl here. And like, they can't get arrested. Like, to me, like, Charlie, so handsome. Nobody has looked at him twice. Like, seriously, I thought he was gonna get voted off. Like, and then it's like when all the guys came, like the very first episode and everybody was like, really into one person. I'm like, oh, really? I don't even think he's so cute. So it's like, like my taste is so different from like the younger generations. No.
- [80:17]
B
And also their taste is also different from each other's, which is good. But now like Iris came in and she's so beautiful, so cute. But I feel like no one's really like, click, like, like all in on her.
- [80:29]
A
Yeah, I. They're trying to make it seem like her and Jeremiah have something. But even though Jeremiah fudgeing hates Huda more than anyone, like, he never has hated someone so much in his life. He can't quit her.
- [80:39]
B
No. They 10 days in are already like that couple that's been together for three years that hate each other but don't know how to break up. Like, like they can't have one pleasant conversation. And the reason why, I mean, I don't love Jeremiah. I don't really know him outside of his relationship with Huda, which stinks when they're having those painful conversations. Like, it's her half of the dialogue that like, really makes me want to turn my TV off for him. Like, because she's like, like first of all, like she's finding to complain about, like, yeah, yeah. Just the mumbling. I, I and this kissing sounds. The two things are going to drive me up a wall. I need to watch on mute. Like, I seriously can't listen to it. And he's just all he says, like, what? Are you serious? Like, he doesn't really say much back. Yeah, she's just always complaining.
- [81:21]
A
And the conversation that Huda had with Nick telling Her that she has a child was top 10. One of the weirdest things ever. Why did she say it like that? She goes, I'm a mommy. And he was confused because what she was trying to say is that I have a daughter. I have a child. And yes, technically, saying I'm a mommy. No is Is saying the same thing. But he was like, to what? A pet? Like, it was so confusing. And it's like, I'm a mommy.
- [81:48]
B
And he's like, mamacita. Yeah.
- [81:51]
A
He didn't get it. And honestly, neither did I. Like, it was just so random. You also wouldn't assume somebody who's going on Love island and is 24 has a kid. So it's like. It's kind of a surprise thing. So for her not to be like, I have a child. Like, very clear and distinct, made it.
- [82:04]
B
So in the villa, like, it could mean so many different things. Like, it could mean that, like, yeah, like a pet baby to look after for a day. I'm a mommy now. Like, it's just. I'm sorry.
- [82:15]
A
It was wrong.
- [82:15]
B
Not a sentence. It's not a sentence.
- [82:17]
A
Agree.
- [82:19]
B
And it's also weird. And I do actually have a little bit of sympathy for Jeremiah because he's in love with or falling for this girl. He finds out that she is a mom.
- [82:28]
A
It's entrapment.
- [82:29]
B
Nobody to talk about it with, because she won't tell. At this point, the whole house should know, because any future bombshells that are coming into the villa, they watch a little bit of the show. They know the people. They all know. So now, just like, the four guys who you know best in the house don't know, Jeremiah can't talk to his friends. Like, that's a very isolating place to be in, to go through, like, by yourself. He's like a young, immature guy. Like, I. It's a lot he needs. And she waited three days. Three days in the villa is 30 days.
- [82:58]
A
Yeah.
- [82:59]
B
It's not fair.
- [83:00]
A
No. And that's like, back to my point about, you know, saving this piece of information until somebody's fallen for you. It's like, it puts Jeremiah or Jimmy from Love Is Blind in, like, an impossible situation. Because if they start to, you know, back out of the relationship, it's obviously because the person has children, which, like, kind of makes them look like a dick. And that's, like, not fair. Because if somebody doesn't want to date someone with children, like, that is a valid.
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B
Yeah. Thing.
- [83:25]
A
And it makes you look like an on tv.
- [83:27]
B
I guess so. But I Need someone to, like, get the message to. To Fiji. Like, if that is a deal breaker for you at 22 years old, like, we're not mad at you.
- [83:36]
A
No, of course it's a valid reason. It's just obviously like, an uncomfortable thing to say.
- [83:41]
B
Yeah. But with Jimmy, like, we are mad at you.
- [83:44]
A
Well, yeah, because Jimmy had, like, other issues.
- [83:46]
B
And as you see, like, and him and Jess were such a great connection at the same time, like, he was just totally, like, one over.
- [83:50]
A
It was worth working on.
- [83:51]
B
It was worth working through because he was. Thought he was talking Megan Fox. And also, like, like, if Huda and Jeremiah's relationship is, like, better and happier right now, like, it actually wouldn't be such a big thing that she has a daughter.
- [84:04]
A
100.
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B
But Jimmy and Jess were so happy.
- [84:07]
A
The last thing I want to talk about is also going to be a really unpopular opinion. But this is my first season watching with Ariana as the host. The last time I watched that girl, the creator. Ariel.
- [84:16]
B
Arielle. Yeah.
- [84:17]
A
Vandenberg. Is that her name? Yeah, she was the host. And now the host, obviously, is, like, in one every, like, seven episodes. So it's not a big deal. But I find Ariana to be, like, a really strange host. And I think that the editing helps a little bit. But me and Ben both were like, does this feel awkward to you? Like, and, you know, they're adding music and cutting out awkward silences, but, like, I'm still feeling the awkwardness. Like, she's.
- [84:38]
B
What did you feel the most? And why was it leather and lace?
- [84:40]
A
Leather and lace was not a good showing for Ariana, but have you been bad boy? Yeah. Stop. But also the very first episode where they had to kiss to couple up, up, it was so. The awkwardness was so palpable. I could feel it. And I'm like, what is going on here? And you know that they're helping with the editing, so how much worse it must be in person.
- [85:01]
B
Claudia. Crickets. I feel that way about every challenge, and I do need to ask you, have you been a bad girl? I want, like, you guys. The leather and lace challenge, like, was another cultural shift for me.
- [85:14]
A
Like, no, to me, it was the baseball one.
- [85:16]
B
Like, like, the baseball, you know, And I talked about the baseball one with, oh, Taylor's trucker. Because I didn't know Taylor Strucker is such a prude. So I was like, taylor, you have no idea what they're doing on Love Island. Like, it's seriously disgusting.
- [85:25]
A
It would put you into a coma.
- [85:27]
B
It would send her.
- [85:28]
A
Yeah, like, Imagine your grandmother watching this show. Like, horrifying.
- [85:31]
B
And I just want to say in our defense, I know we get a lot of for not watching last season. And of course, like the one season we didn't watch is the most popular, most amazing. Change the game. They're getting a spin off show, by the way, like girl style in la. We don't know who these people are.
- [85:43]
A
I love that by the way. I think it's, it's brilliant.
- [85:45]
B
Amazing idea. But it's because it's the one season we didn't watch. We tried to put it on and it was all ass and titties and we're with our family. Like, we could not watch that last summer.
- [85:55]
A
Yeah, it was horrifying.
- [85:56]
B
Imagine like the chat, watching a challenge as a whole family.
- [86:00]
A
No, Jackie, we're gonna have to like.
- [86:01]
B
Watch and see Single night also.
- [86:04]
A
Are we like almost. Is it almost over? How like are we halfway through?
- [86:07]
B
We just started.
- [86:08]
A
Oh, it's just begun.
- [86:09]
B
Yeah, I think it'll go through. I mean, I'm just guessing, like through the end of July at least maybe into August.
- [86:14]
A
I just want to say I'm having the time of my life.
- [86:16]
B
And I think that's why it's on Peacock and not on cable. Because it's pornography.
- [86:19]
A
It can't be on. Yeah, agreed.
- [86:22]
B
It's pornography by these sexless individuals who have no chemistry.
- [86:26]
A
Yeah. And then they cut to the night time and everybody's on opposite sides of the bed. It's. Excuse me, you just dry humped this person.
- [86:31]
B
Not even dry. Wet.
- [86:33]
A
That baseball challenge like really changed me as an individual.
- [86:36]
B
So did leather and lace coupled with Ariana's participation.
- [86:39]
A
That's so funny. I didn't have that. Maybe I'm just becoming like hardened and inured. The leather and lace, like, didn't shake me the way baseball did.
- [86:47]
B
I just thought it was so crazy. Like they all have to like go and have sex with their partner. Like in front of everyone. Partner they don't have sex with at night when they seem to see met together.
- [86:55]
A
And I don't even enjoy those challenges like that.
- [86:57]
B
The new bombshells came and they have to hardcore make out with five strangers. And like each girl has to act like she's or I think or they are so into it. When it's like you just kissed the girl before like this and the girl after.
- [87:08]
A
But no Jackie, I said to Ben, like during the baseball challenge, like you going like a girl going to make out with the first, second and third baseman. Like those guys are making out with each other. It's gay. Like, you would. Like, you seriously, Jeremiah, like, making out with somebody who has Nick's saliva. Like, it's seriously. It's kind of homosexual.
- [87:30]
B
Yeah, well, that. And it also is like, I think a couple of them are like, bye. I wouldn't be surprised if we start getting some. Like. Like, I think some of the girls are more into each other than to the guys that I do think a lot of them are, like, not attracted to.
- [87:42]
A
Of course. I'm sorry, Shelly. Like, I appreciate you trying to be nice. We know you don't like Austin. Like, we know.
- [87:48]
B
Or Ace. If you liked Ace, like, you would be different. And I don't blame you for not liking Ace. And they need to bring in a man for Shelley. But at this rate, like, I'm Team.
- [87:55]
A
Austin, and I want to tell Love island producers, like, we don't need those kind of sick challenges. I actually thought the challenge with the. We had to answer the question or, like, pie someone in the face or whatever. Like, that was funny me. When they had to do the briefcases of, like, who do you think has slept with the most? People, like, getting to know one another. I actually enjoyed those more than the pornographic ones.
- [88:11]
B
Yes. And those also start drama because they have to, like, be a little shady and it moves the plot forward. Baseball Move Nothing.
- [88:17]
A
Nothing. We had that one thing with Huda and Amaya, and it was over before it even began.
- [88:21]
B
Leather and lace. Move Nothing.
- [88:25]
A
Having the time of my life. Can't recommend having a baby enough. Coinciding with the Love is Blind usa, whatever the fuck it's called.
- [88:31]
B
But you could also just, like, like, watching. That's like. I watched love. It's fine.
- [88:35]
A
Right.
- [88:35]
B
Uk when I was postpartum, and it was also a party experience.
- [88:40]
A
So Laussa is. I'm loving it. Like, loving it.
- [88:43]
B
Yeah. I'm. I like talking to you about it. So I'll keep watching for my job. But don't get.
- [88:48]
A
I love the tweets. I love the tweets. Like, I run to Twitter after the episode.
- [88:52]
B
Enjoy the tweets in the moment, because by the time I'm caught up, I've.
- [88:55]
A
Ruined it for you.
- [88:55]
B
No, no. The next episode is airing, and, like, the tweets are new, and I can't read that.
- [89:00]
A
Yeah, you are missing out. The tweets are so fun.
- [89:02]
B
So I'll be caught up. And just don't ever think for one second I'm watching this, like, for my personal enjoyment.
- [89:08]
A
Oh, I am, by the way. I'm enjoying every minute. I gotta go. My breasts are embarrassed. I've been a bad girl who needs to be punished. Guys, I have so enjoyed being back. If any other time slots open up for the rest of the month, I know you're like, so booked, but I, I, I, like this is doable for me, so let me know. I'd love to come back.
- [89:28]
B
For sure. Things come up. Like, you're welcome to come back anytime you want to come up, but, like.
- [89:31]
A
And if someone, like, cancels.
- [89:33]
B
Yeah, things come up. You never know. Like, like somebody can't have. By the way, you, you are on the calendar for one more day.
- [89:38]
A
Oh, is it? Yeah. Is it like the final episode of Jackson Friends?
- [89:41]
B
Yeah.
- [89:42]
A
That's a good way to end it. Okay, so at least I have that.
- [89:44]
B
Yeah. Yeah. So we love you so much. We will see you tomorrow. Have a partialicious day. Love ya. Bye.