Oscar is Blind: Monday, March 3rd, 2025

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Toast – "Oscar is Blind: Monday, March 3rd, 2025"

Host: Jackie & Claudia Oshry
Release Date: March 3, 2025

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1. Weekend Highlights and Personal Updates

Claudia Oshry ([02:08]) shared her experiences from the weekend, including hosting a delightful dinner party with Ben Taylor and Taylor. Despite enjoying board games and delicious meals, she humorously lamented the absence of cocktails, which could have elevated the evening. Jackie Oshry ([02:49]) recounted a rather uneventful weekend marred by illness and extensive reading. She highlighted a local safari trip as the sole highlight amidst battling a persistent cold and diving into a challenging book.

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2. Traumatic Oscars Night Experience

In a deeply personal segment, Claudia Oshry ([05:19]) recounted a harrowing experience during the Oscars ceremony. While navigating her pregnancy-induced frequent nighttime bathroom visits, she was startled by a man emerging from the toilet, who turned out to be her partner, Ben. The ensuing mutual screams and fear led Claudia to collapse, leaving her shaken and overwhelmed.

Notable Quote:
"I've never been so scared in my entire fucking life."
— Claudia Oshry [07:00]

This incident mirrored a previous similar experience, highlighting the stressors of pregnancy and nocturnal disruptions.

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3. Critical Take on the Oscars Ceremony

Claudia Oshry ([16:21]) expressed strong discontent with the Oscars, criticizing the selection of films and perceived exploitation of Jewish trauma. She felt the ceremony was offensive due to the predominance of Holocaust-related movies and questioned the legitimacy of certain awards.

Key Points:

• Performance Critique: Claudia was particularly unimpressed with performances from actors in films she deemed subpar, emphasizing a disconnect between the quality of films and their recognition.

• Host Performance: Both Claudia and Jackie Oshry ([19:09]) criticized host Conan O'Brien for his lackluster and repetitive jokes, which they felt detracted from the ceremony's quality.

• Best Picture Disappointment: Claudia argued that the Best Picture award should have gone to films like Conclave or Wicked, rather than the selected nominees, which she found uninspiring.

Notable Quote:
"Everything I've ever thought about Hollywood. And Enough with the Jews. Run Hollywood."
— Claudia Oshry [17:18]

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4. Kourtney Kardashian’s Statement on False Pregnancy Rumors

The hosts discussed Kourtney Kardashian's ([43:38]) recent statement addressing false rumors about her son Mason having a baby. Kourtney emphasized her son's privacy and denounced the spread of misinformation.

Notable Quote:
"Mason does not have a child. These accounts that pretend to be him are definitely not. They are fake."
— Kourtney Kardashian [43:38]

Claudia Oshry ([44:17]) expressed relief that Kourtney wasn’t referring to them directly and highlighted the challenges of managing misinformation in the digital age.

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5. New California Law on Earnings for Children in Content

Claudia Oshry ([46:12]) introduced a new California law mandating that if children constitute 30% of a creator's content, 65% of the revenue generated must be placed in a trust for the child. This law targets content creators like the LeBrant family and Brittany Xavier, who have sizeable young audiences.

Key Points:

• Impact on Creators: The law aims to protect children financially, ensuring they benefit directly from their presence in content.

• Public Reaction: While some creators are relocating out of California, others like Brittany Xavier refute claims that the move is solely to evade the new law, citing alternative reasons such as personal preferences.

Notable Quote:
"If they're, like, good people, they would have already been doing something like this, so it shouldn't change."
— Jackie Oshry [47:47]

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6. Alex Earle and Bethany Frankel’s Dinner Misunderstanding

The hosts delved into the confusion surrounding Alex Earle and Bethany Frankel's ([50:17]) dinner plans. Initially rumored to have stood each other up, it was later clarified that the misunderstanding arose from misaligned dates.

Key Points:

• Public Perception: Bethany's extensive TikTok coverage of the incident initially painted a negative picture, but both parties reconciled and made amends.

• Character Insights: Claudia Oshry ([54:03]) praised Alex for her down-to-earth nature, while critiquing Bethany for over-hyping minor incidents as personal drama.

Notable Quote:
"If I'm Alex Earle, I'm like, I'm slightly annoyed."
— Claudia Oshry [55:16]

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7. Meghan Markle’s People Magazine Interview

Jackie Oshry ([61:27]) highlighted Meghan Markle's ([61:27]) upcoming interview with People Magazine titled "The Megan Interview: Harry, the Kids and My Life." The hosts expressed surprise that a former princess chose a mainstream publication for her promotional efforts instead of more prestigious outlets like Vogue.

Key Points:

• Content Focus: The interview delves into Meghan’s personal life, her new Netflix show, and her relationship with Prince Harry and their children.

• Public Reaction: Both hosts questioned the choice of publication, considering Meghan's status and influence.

Notable Quote:
"She's supposed to have options better than this."
— Claudia Oshry [62:05]

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8. 'Love is Blind' Season 5 Recap

The hosts provided an in-depth recap of 'Love is Blind' Season 5, analyzing the dynamics and relationships of the five original couples:

• Monica and Joey: Commended for their genuine conversations and mutual respect, the hosts believe they have a strong chance of marrying.

  Quote:
  "They make the show worth watching."
  — Claudia Oshry [70:01]

• Shorty and Taco Bell (Nurse Taylor and Daniel): Despite initial conflicts over political differences, the hosts see potential for growth due to Daniel's flexibility and support for Taylor’s social causes.

• Virginia and Devin: Marked as the most controversial couple due to their deep-seated political differences, making a successful relationship challenging.

  Quote:
  "It's like, an issue with Virginia and Devin, like, I don't think the politics is why they're not gonna end up together."
  — Claudia Oshry [78:06]

• Sarah and Ben: Portrayed as a promising couple with aligned values, although Claudia expressed doubts about Ben’s genuine commitment.

• Dave and Lauren: Their breakup was met with both hosts expressing relief, highlighting the toxicity of Dave's behavior during the relationship.

Overall Sentiment:
Claudia found certain couples refreshing and deserving of support, while others struggled with internal conflicts, particularly revolving around politics and personal values.

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9. Ingrid Andres’ National Anthem Performance

Claudia Oshry ([66:48]) and Jackie Oshry ([66:47]) discussed Ingrid Andres' recent national anthem performances. They criticized her renditions as subpar, comparing them unfavorably to Broadway standards, despite her efforts to make a comeback post-rehab.

Notable Quote:
"She never should have been tapped in the first place."
— Claudia Oshry [68:00]

While recognizing her attempts to redeem herself, the hosts remained skeptical about her suitability for such performances.

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10. Closing Thoughts

The episode concluded with reflections on the discussed topics. Claudia Oshry ([86:23]) and Jackie Oshry ([86:37]) expressed their gratitude towards listeners, encouraging subscription and engagement on YouTube. They hinted at upcoming stories and maintained their signature candid and critical analysis of current events in entertainment and media.

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Notable Quotes:

• "I'm having fun recapping it. I'm having no fun watching it. It's like pulling teeth."
  — Claudia Oshry [85:25]

• "I think this is what the Oscars are giving now."
  — Claudia Oshry [40:47]

• "We listen and we don't judge."
  — Jackie Oshry [09:08]

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This episode of The Toast provided a blend of personal anecdotes, critical analyses of major events like the Oscars, and discussions on current pop culture phenomena. The hosts maintained their engaging and candid style, delivering their perspectives with humor and honesty.

Transcript

[Claudia Oshry]

Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast. It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host. It's your favorite show.

[Jackie Oshry]

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[Claudia Oshry]

We'll start your day off swirly. It's the Toast.

[Jackie Oshry]

They sound amazing.

[Claudia Oshry]

Welcome back to the Toast and Happy Monday. And if there was a Monday that ever felt like a Monday, it might be this particular Monday, because, my God, we have so much to cover. Hello, Jax. How you.

[Jackie Oshry]

Darn, darn good. We have a lot to cover on this Monday that feels like a Monday. First Monday in March. Let's get this bread.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, wait. It's almost the Met gala. Just, like, a fun fact.

[Jackie Oshry]

In two months. If that's.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, like, you almost. Yeah, like, we're almost there. Like, usually the first Monday of March, it just reminded me, like, yeah, that's something coming up. That's something to look forward to.

[Jackie Oshry]

Is it? You're so mainstream these days, I can't keep up with you.

[Claudia Oshry]

The thing is, is that, you know, actually, I'm glad you brought that up, because I go through. I go through eras where, like, I'm such a hater of things. And it's hard because, like, your job is to, like, you know, watch it all, recap it at all, and no one wants to come on here being like, I hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate. And I do. I'm just, like, a hater to my core. But, yes, I have been very mainstream. Like, watching everything on TV these days, it's more so pregnancy. Like, yeah, thank. Yeah. Like, even though the Oscars was one of those miserable experiences, like, do you know how grateful I was to have to watch something that I could, like, live, tweet, and, like, be a part? Like, the activities don't come as easily as they used to. So if my mainstream is coming off as anything other than a lack of other options, then I'm sorry.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, it's nice. And we don't hate, like, by choice. We are dedicated to the truth, and if things shake out in a hateful way, that's literally not our fault.

[Claudia Oshry]

And I really feel like I've been so positive recently, and I'm really due for, like, a hater episode. I have actually a lot of really kind of hot button controversial things to say. I. I'm not sure if I'm gonna say all of them.

[Jackie Oshry]

I haven't spoken to Upline. I think I just let it rip. I'm feeling really motivated by the truth. I feel like that's really what's guiding me. I. I don't like, I don't go through a hater era, like, where I'm just, like, angry at stuff. It's like, if it's good, it's good. And if it's not good, I'll say so. Let the truth guide you, Cogers.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, so I just have a lot of thoughts. And also, this is the first year. This is the first year that I'm really well versed in the movies. You know, I've seen most of the.

[Jackie Oshry]

Talkies because they love to say, you didn't even watch the movies.

[Claudia Oshry]

And so now that I have, and you're going to regret making me watch these movies because I have some really kind of crazy things to say. So the first story we have today is the Oscars. We'll get into that in a little bit. But how was your weekend, Jax? Tell me all about it, co chairs.

[Jackie Oshry]

It was a. It was a nice weekend, but it wasn't my finest. And it was actually, like, quite boring. So I'll be brief. Sick again this weekend, which really put a damper on things, like, had, like. I guess it's just a cold. At one point I was like, do I have allergies? I looked up like, what's the allergy count right now? Because it was just like, so sneezy, so sniffly was missing. I have to read the 600 paid books for the redhead. So all my free time was dedicated to reading this book that started out as like a. A demon, Copperhead type. And now I hate this author, you know? You know when that happens? Like he said, out. You're telling me he set out to do something. He bit off more than he could chew. He doesn't know where he's going. So I didn't even watch anything fun because I was reading this book, which I don't hate, but I've just been, like, knee deep in reading. Yesterday we did go on a local safari, so that was fun. I got to see exotic animals and that was the highlight of my weekend. So, yeah, like, really nothing fabulous to share.

[Claudia Oshry]

Unfortunately, mine wasn't fabulous either. Although I did, yes, I did have a dinner party on Friday night. The Taylors.

[Jackie Oshry]

You came over. You did?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

She was hard.

[Claudia Oshry]

It was one of those. It was one of those nights that, like, was perfect and only would have been made more perfect if I could have a cocktail, you know?

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, I guess so. Yeah. I thought you were gonna say it was one of those things that was written in the story. Stars.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, Ben Taylor And Taylor. Like, we were having so much fun. Ben Made a beautiful meal. We played, like, board games. Like, you know, that's like, oh, I saw.

[Jackie Oshry]

I saw slaw and.

[Claudia Oshry]

And schnitzel, and everybody was, like, drinking wine, and Ben doesn't really drink, and he did. And I was like, oh, my God. Of course, like, one night you get, like, fun drunk, and I'm not even allowed to participate. So it was fun, but, like, it could have been better, you know, with a drank. Yeah, but that's actually not the most important thing that happened to me this weekend. I, too, had a pretty boring weekend. Although I consumed a lot of content for the purposes of today's show. Yeah, I fit finished Love is Blind. I watched so much Desperate Housewives. I won't bore you guys with it, but it's just, like, the only thing that brings me joy. But I also had a traumatic event that I'd like to.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, my gosh, you guys, you're not gonna believe this. If you've been here a while, you will not believe this story.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes. You will not believe that, like, the craziest thing ever happened to me again. So I'm obviously pregnant. I don't know if I mentioned that. I talk about it, like, so little, and I get no backlash every time. Could I just say, like, I got so much hate on Friday after, like, talking about pregnancy for 20 minutes. Like, I feel like I've been so good reeling in my pregnancy stuff, and, like, guys just let me live like, I'm pregnant. Like, what do you want me to do?

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, can I ask something?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Is it your truth? Then let it guide you.

[Claudia Oshry]

I fear it is, yes.

[Jackie Oshry]

Then let it guide you.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay, so one of the absolute blessings of pregnancy is how frequently you have to pee. And for some reason, like, you have to pee way more at night. And so I'm used to it now. I'm up to about three peas. Every two, three hours I pee. And on Saturday night, I got up to pee. And what's so funny is that something woke me up. And then I was like, oh, I'll pee, you know? And the thing that woke me up was Ben's heavy breathing. He's, like, literally behind me, and I hear him just, like, whistling in the wind. And I'm like, that bump made us jump, literally. So he woke me up, and I was like, well, while I'm up, I might as well just get my pee out of the way. So I get up to pee. The door is closed to the bathroom. We have a, like, an ensuite. I open the door to the bathroom, and There's a man in my bathroom, like, coming out of the toilet. And I screamed, screamed so loud, like. Like, truly, like, if you're being kidnapped, like, you scream, and then the man is also screaming. And then I'm screaming, and the man's screaming. And I realized very quickly that the man is Ben, which I didn't really understand because three seconds before, he was in the bed, waking me up with his snoring. So I'm like, how did you get in the toilet? We are screaming off. Like, the whole thing, like, seriously never ended. Like, scream, I scream, he scream, I scream, he scream. And then I was so petrified, like, true fear, that I collapsed, like, my body gave out, and I totally forgot I was pregnant. I landed on my knees. Thank God. I have never been so scared.

[Jackie Oshry]

Except for the last time that happened.

[Claudia Oshry]

This one was worse, by the way.

[Jackie Oshry]

If you're a new toaster in Claudia and Ben's old apartment. So just to say, like, two years ago, this exact thing happened. She went up to pee in the middle of the night. She opened the door, and there was someone in her bathroom, and they screamed at each other, and it was Ben.

[Claudia Oshry]

Actually, the last time the roles were reversed. I was on the toilet, and it's pitch black, and I, like, look up for a second, and there's a man standing over me. I don't know which one was more scary. This one just feels more scary because it was more recent. But. Oh, my God, I've never felt, like, such abject terror in my entire fucking life. Like, whole. I'm like, just. I was up for an hour afterwards. My knees were killing me because I collapsed onto my knees. It was the worst thing that ever happened to me. We now have rules in place, and I'm just like, can I have one thing? Like, what? You have to pee in the middle of the night, too. Like, I'm fucking pregnant. Like I said, first of all. And ever since it happened, I'm very aware that it could happen again. And I always now pee with the door open. And, like, I make a lot of sound when I pee, just so somebody knows that. Like a hi, I'm here. So I'm aware of it. Ben is obviously not. So now we have rules in place. I said, for the remainder of the pregnancy, like, you have to pee in the guest room in the middle of the night. I'm sorry. And if you do happen to, like, forget and pee in our best bathroom, like, pee with the door open. Make a lot of sound. Like, just make yourself known. Don't Be like, you know, tiptoeing in the night.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, he's not welcome in your bathroom anymore. That's. That has to be like, we can't have this happen again. He needs to use the other bathroom. Maybe you guys need a nightlight. Various nightlights in your bedroom so that it's never, like, pitch black. And when you see.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's not. Like, the reason that this happened had nothing to do with the level of darkness.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, well, it doesn't happen in the middle of the day.

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, it happened in our old apartment, and we had a nightlight on the floor in the bathroom. Like, it's. It's not about that. And I'm actually just want to say, like, I don't feel like this is that crazy. I'm surprised it doesn't happen to more people, because when your partner gets out of bed, it jostles the bed and wakes you up, and you're like, oh, yeah, I'll pee. And you don't realize that you're jostled because they got up to pee. So I feel like it's not the craziest thing. And the fact that it's happened to me twice now sounds crazy, but it's not.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, we listen and we don't judge. We listen and we don't judge.

[Claudia Oshry]

I'm surprised my doorbell didn't ring with the cops like that. Good to know that not a single one of my neighbors called the police when two. When two people were screaming for their fucking.

[Jackie Oshry]

You guys are the craziest two people. That's the thing. You and Ben are so crazy. You're seriously perfect for each other.

[Claudia Oshry]

Can I tell you something? You're crazy. I know. It's not the point. It's not the point. But, like, Ben screamed. It was really icky. Pussy.

[Jackie Oshry]

No.

[Claudia Oshry]

And, like, the pitch and the. The tenor of it, and it's like.

[Jackie Oshry]

He was just like a small, beautiful woman.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, what are you afraid of? It was so girly. His scream was like. Like a woman.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's like, he should have known that's.

[Claudia Oshry]

You, obviously, because, like, my thing is that I pee, right? Yeah. And it's like, what are you doing here? Get out of here.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, I had reason that he screamed.

[Claudia Oshry]

I had reason to be suspicious about the man in my bathroom.

[Jackie Oshry]

Unless, like, your scream scared him. Because, like, screams are scary, by the way.

[Claudia Oshry]

That is what happened. Because now, like, now I can laugh, like, replaying, like, his face.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, seriously, I can't.

[Claudia Oshry]

But in the moment, it was so scary, like, I couldn't laugh now. I can.

[Jackie Oshry]

Were you mad at him after?

[Claudia Oshry]

No, No. I was really, really shaken up. Like, I was so afraid. Yes. I had actually went through, like, the. The real feelings of somebody being kidnapped. Like your worst nightmare. You wake up and someone's in your house. Right. Like now. Thankfully, the person in my house lived there, but it was like the real feelings of it. Do you know what I mean?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yes. And how was Romeo?

[Claudia Oshry]

He has been sleeping in the crate because he's pissing us off. So he was a non factor. I can only imagine what he would have thought. Romeo's pov, right?

[Jackie Oshry]

You guys, my parents are crazy.

[Claudia Oshry]

So crazy.

[Jackie Oshry]

I ser. Like, you guys are so crazy.

[Claudia Oshry]

It was the craziest thing.

[Jackie Oshry]

Sound off in the comments. Does this happen to you? Like, is this something that happened?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. And what are, like, solves? Having a second toilet is huge. Like, obviously, like, sorry, your walk is now much longer, but it's not my problem.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, a small price to pay.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, my God. It was the craziest thing that ever happened to me. And then, like, we were just supposed to wake up and be normal. And I went. We woke up and went to brunch with Ben's parents. And I actually had to leave early. I was really feeling, like, dizzy and not okay. I think that, like, the whole traumatic event really took a physical toll on me.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Well, the lack of sleep, the knees.

[Claudia Oshry]

Of agile, by the way, it was giving vaso vagal. Exactly. Like, I was feeling really unsteady at brunch and, like, nauseous. Like, I was gonna throw up, so I had to leave.

[Jackie Oshry]

Or it was the pregnancy.

[Claudia Oshry]

I think it was the vassal battle.

[Jackie Oshry]

I think it was so vast, it's giving daggle zags.

[Claudia Oshry]

So that's, like, literally the only thing I have to report from the weekend. Because it was seriously. It wasn't real. It was the real movie. Like, oh, my God.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Well, speaking of the movies, the Oscars were on last night. I endeavored to watch them. We'll share all of our thoughts in the fast five, which I think.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, I mean, we should, like, make haste today. There's a lot to talk about.

[Jackie Oshry]

We're doing Fast five stories. We're doing. You're doing Love is Blind recap. You never know what's going to come up along the way.

[Claudia Oshry]

Kourtney Kardashian released a statement, and I feel bad. So, like, we have a lot to talk about. Oh, and we're doing Alex Earl, Bethany Frankel. I've. So that's another one of my, like, takes today that I feel like people are not going to see coming.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, okay. You bet. These better be good. I feel like you're really like, there's nothing worse than when someone's like, I have a hot take.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, I know. Hot dogs are not sandwiches where moist is weird. No, my, I would say like my hottest take. It's like not even hot. You know, we'll talk about it. Okay.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay. Without further Here are the Fast 5 stories you need to know and the.

[Claudia Oshry]

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[Jackie Oshry]

Thank you. The Tert.

[Claudia Oshry]

Now, before we dive into the Oscars because I did spend like, you know, the latter six months, not ladder former six months of my life watching these movies and I, I want to talk about my thoughts on them, right? Like, because I have a lot, I saw a lot of the movies, the winners, things like that. But I need to just kind of like take a big diarrhea dump before I do that because I had such a problem with the Oscars. And I know you did too. And I just want to, like, I want to talk about how, like, offensive to my core. And obviously, like, I take things, you know, related to my people very, very personally. But I don't know how anyone could have watched the OSC and not just like, wanted to vomit all over these people. Especially when you think about, like, so top four awards, which were like best supporting Actor Actress. Two of them films were Holocaust movies. Two of the actors who won are Jewish. And the way there was just like, so much profiting off of Jewish trauma and like, no mention of recent Jewish trauma I found so offensive.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, ongoing, ongoing.

[Claudia Oshry]

I like Kieran Culkin. And like, I. I don't, like, I don't want to, you know, smear him. But, like, you get up there, you want it for a holocaust movie. You're not even Jewish. Like, to not even mention it. Like, I actually found so offensive. And I thought his speech was really sweet. Like, about his wife, like, so cute. But like, let's talk about what got you here first. Just briefly. Like, I know you have a limited amount of time. Mikey Madison, Jewish girl, no mention. Like, this is the biggest moment. And Adrian Brody, and I'm sorry, like, I love him. I'm going to. I'm going to gag over him and Georgina and the gum. Like, I'm going to do it. But, like, disappointment. The speech was weak, especially because they started playing the music and he was like, no, stop. I have something to say. And I was like, oh, here we fucking go. Here we go. He stopped the music. I'm ready for him to slay the house down boots. And like, he said, anti Semitism, like he was pushing out of duty. Like, it was the hardest thing he'd ever done. And then he also, like, blanketed it with other, like, sort of buzzwords. And it was just. It was not powerful, it was not moving. And the whole thing just felt so to me. And then for this film, which was like nominated in one of the categories normally people don't care about, like, documentary short. It was called no Other Land to have Won, which was like, seriously, like a propaganda film made about the war in Israel to. For them to have won, and then got up on stage and just like, said to me, like, the most abhorrently offensive, unfactual things. Like, to me, I wanted to turn the whole fucking thing off. I thought it was disgusting. Like, everything I've ever thought about Hollywood. And Enough with the Jews. Run Hollywood. Because if they did. Like last night wouldn't have happened, so just please shut the fuck up. I wanted to turn it off, but I'm like, no, I did not come this far to only come this far. I watch these piece of shit movies. I'm going to see this through. So I will give my thoughts and you know, I won't make everything about this, but I just needed to be said how personally offensive I found the whole night.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, I, first of all, I'm offended. They started at 7pm like some of us have shit to do.

[Claudia Oshry]

So I didn't, I was grateful.

[Jackie Oshry]

I was about that until like 7:40. So that's when I was able to start recording.

[Claudia Oshry]

I'm sorry, wait, one more thing, One more thing that like added to my list of offensive. I said everyone. And then for that ugly fuck guy, Pierce. I've never even heard of him. Like you come to the Oscars on the backs of a Holocaust movie and you wear your stupid ugly Free Palestine pin like you know nothing. You're an idiot and I hate you.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Especially after the last few weeks when they've complete. Like, not that they ever hit who they were in Gaza, but like they have been so horrible. Literally dancing and parading around the coffins of Jewish babies. Like, this is what you want to say today? Really? That's who you are. Like, I. It's really sickening. So I watched from like 7:40 up until no Other Land or whatever won the best documentary. I'm like, why am I watching this? What I watched wasn't even enjoyable. These people are morons. I don't like them. I don't like this. Like, let me go back to my book. So I'll recap what I saw and we'll talk about the winners and tell me what you think. Like from a, a cinematic perspective. It also looks like, like every preview for every movie looks like. And the movies like. And I know I only saw one but like Wicked was an amazing movie and the fact that it should have won every award. And I've seen clips of a Nor and Amelia President. It's a joke. The girl dance writhing on the floor with the song that says over. Conan Ryan said it says fuck over 400 times. The movie like, and that's the best movie.

[Claudia Oshry]

So that's my kind of big, like outside of my own personal politics, which I can admit, like I'm very close to now, I'm going to take a step back and just talk about this as a movie critic if I may because I've seen all the Movies. I've seen all the movies. And when they played in the very beginning, like this little trailer of like movies of yore that have won Oscars and it was all in tribute to L. A. So it was like big Hollywood films. They had La La Land, everything that. It was just like, so glamorous. And you're like, yes, this is the Oscars. Yes, yes, yes. And then you take a look at the slew of films that were nominated this year, and it's like, this one of these things is not like the other. Like, there was nothing. And then when you think about also, I'm sorry, the films that won, like, oh, really, like the category that, you know, gave us La La Land and, you know, 12 Years a Slave and Gone with the Wind, like the great Honora, like, it's actually crazy that I think what now is considered an Oscar worthy film is just so different than what I'm used to seeing. And last night was just like all the worst movies being nominated and treated like, you know, like something that they weren't.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

So it's like, well, I don't know if like Nora should have won over Emilia Perez. To be honest. I don't really give a fuck. They're all the same type of movie. Like, where are the greats? Where are like these big productions? And like, the one thing I'll say about a Nora that I liked is that it was an independent movie made for $6 million. And like, that just doesn't happen to movies like that. Like, that's cool for sure. Shout out to the indies they deserve, you know, but at its core, like, it was a dumb movie. Like, I actually enjoyed it. Like, it was like a silly movie you would see, like with your friends, like, Oscars. It's just not adding up.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. So of the movies that you saw, what do you think should have won best picture? You saw Conclave. Amelia Perez, Honora, the substance and wicked.

[Claudia Oshry]

Honestly, like, when I think of what constitutes an Oscar worthy film, I would have said conclave. And the more that I have, like, time has passed since I've watched this movie. I find myself, like thinking most and talking to people about Conclave as a good movie. Should I enjoyed the substance the most? I. I would have been happy if they wanted to be more was 1000% snubbed. Like it's. It's not even a question. Yeah, I think I would say Conclave.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay.

[Claudia Oshry]

Or Wicked. Like, I know they're like, against giving it to popular things, but when you think about movies in the year 2025. Like, you're only thinking about Wicked.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

And it's okay to give it to something like, corny and.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, popular. It's not even corny because it's, like, it was really artistic. It's really theatrical. Like, Cynthia Rivio has the most amazing voice on the planet. It will go down as. As a movie as big as the wizard of Oz. Yeah. Titanic. Like, that was our movie of the year. Like, our big budget movie. Like La La Land, which didn't win, by the way, which is a perfect example, because the movie. That one nobody talks about today.

[Claudia Oshry]

Moonlight. Yeah. Okay, so let's. Let's go through the categories, but let's also just talk about the opening, which started out for me, and I'm. I'm feeling really critical of the night, so I'm going to say things about people whom I love.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, yeah, we're waiting for the hot takes as well.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Okay. Well, one of my hot takes is that the performances were so bad, and that's not like a hot take or anything. But the performances, obviously, that stood out were Ari and Cynthia. And it was so pargy the way they chose songs to encapsulate the entire wizard of Oz universe. Not just Wicked, Somewhere over the Rainbow, and then the Wiz and then Wicked. Like, it was so beautiful. But I was really kind of like, shooketh at Ari's vocals. I feel like you could always say what you want about Ari, right? Like, you know, like, her music or her personal life, but she's going to slide the house down boots with that voice, and she's going to shut everybody up. She was a little, like, shaky. I don't know if she was nervous, but it was not giving her parchy, flawless vocals. It was giving, like, are she nervous?

[Jackie Oshry]

So I saw that. You said that before. I watch it. I saw you say, like, Ari's vocals are. And then when I watch it, I was like, oh, no, they sounded good, considering I was expecting them to be. I wonder what I would have thought if I just watched it without any expectation. Because I was like, oh, no, she sounds nice. The only thing is. And I never noticed this, but I could hear her breathing. I feel like that's part of the trade where it's like your breath work. You. You know, where to take your breath so that we don't hear it, so that we don't know, like.

[Claudia Oshry]

And I know she was shaking, like, yeah, it wasn't. I don't know. I wasn't, like, blown away. And then Cynthia comes out and sang a song from the Wiz that I didn't know, but I was enjoying immensely. And Cynthia's just, like, she could fart out a tune that's better than anything you've ever heard. And then when they brought the two women together, and I really did love that, like, even though the movie has been paraded as, like, Cynthia and Ari. Cynthia and Ari. Cynthia and Ari. Like, the big songs and the vocals, like, it is Elphaba. And so I like that the performance was, like, really for Cynthia. And Ari was very much there as, like, supporting act. Because that final song, like, oh, my God, I. I wasn't okay. It was so beautiful. She didn't even look like she was trying. That was the crazy thing. Like, the way she was hitting these notes, it was perfection. I liked the cinematography. They showed Ari in the back doing some supporting vocals. I hope you're happy. Like, parge of licious. I loved it. And I was like, oh, here we go. The Oscars are about to, like, you know, the year I finally watched them all. I'm ready. And then Conan came out. And I want to say something. I don't have any particular, strong feelings about Conan. I think people really love him and people also really dislike him. So I was ready to be dazzled. I'm like, take me to your side. Make me a fan. And I found the whole thing, like, really hard to watch. He was really corny and he was trying so hard, which, like, I appreciate, but it was reading so desperate. And I don't know, it was also, like, not funny. That's kind of where I draw the line.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, that's what we're looking for. Funny.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, it wasn't good. And then with any host, even if you're doing a good job towards the end, like, I find you annoying. But I started finding him annoying. Like, the second and third time he came on, and, like, I was just scrolling. I missed half of his jokes. Like, he was really bothering me. Irksome.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay, so it's a no from Conan.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's a no for Conan. And also, he just reminds me of, like. And I know he's not like a Jimmy, but he has that vibe. And he didn't stand out in a way. So it was giving Jimmy. Yeah, there were a couple of good jokes. Like, I laughed, but the Carlos Sofia Gascon.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Of it all was very funny. I didn't know if they were going to dress it. I didn't even know if she was in the building.

[Jackie Oshry]

She was in the building. Right?

[Claudia Oshry]

Because everybody was ignoring her. I didn't see her on the carpet, like, so she had tweets, if you guys don't know. She's the actress from plays.

[Jackie Oshry]

Amelia Perez.

[Claudia Oshry]

Amelia Perez. Actually, it's Perez. There's an apostrophe over the first D. And everybody loves her like queen, queen, queen. And then she had tweets. And now everybody hates hate, hate. And she was dominated for best actress, so it was like really like she was a big player last night. She wasn't on TV once, except when Conan made the joke about her, which I actually thought was a funny joke. And good on her for like, you know, playing into it, because I don't know where she goes from here, but.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, she goes nowhere from here. That was the craziest story. Like, this is the wokest movie of the year. And she was like everywhere. The darling and then the tweets, they're so antithetical to like everything that the.

[Claudia Oshry]

Movie, the movie stands for.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's just like, womp, womp, womp.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, it was.

[Jackie Oshry]

Perez would have won best Picture if not for that.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, no. Because I think by the time her tweets came out, like, most of the voting had already been done. Especially because this production was postponed.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay, no, not the production, the nominees.

[Claudia Oshry]

But something actually the whole broadcast was postponed.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, no, they said no. Just the nominee announcement. But also that would mean they had more time to vote.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, I think that. And that was something I A positive I want to give. And there's going to be very few positives, so just hold onto your horses. I really appreciated them giving amelia Perez Only two out of the 13 nominations. Now, I didn't agree with either of the two, but they could have went home with more than that and it would have actually been like such a slap in the face to everybody there.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

That it was the right thing.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. So for the acting awards, Best actress went to Mikey Madison and Nora. She beat out. That's the big snub.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. It should have went to Demi where she was first of all. That movie was really good. The substance and she was incredible. Like it was. Because we're talking about two different things here. It's hard to. With the actress categories. You have to separate the movies from the performance. Like, even if you thought the movie was bad, was their performance better? And Anora was a worse movie and a worse performance. And Demi Moore totally deserved. Was her, I think feel like one of her. Like her only chance, you know, and it was so obvious that it was going to be her. She was sitting right in the front row. Like, why wasn't it. She was amazing.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

And Anora was, like, this dumb, silly movie. I'm sorry. About, like, a. A wealthy Russian kid who moves to New York and, like, hides from his parents and hires a hooker and gets married to her. And they just, like, get drunk and being.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's like.

[Claudia Oshry]

It was so silly. And she plays the hooker, and she's just like, fudge. Yes. Fuck that. She's like. She's from there. They take the film it in New York. So she's like, this OG New York, like, stripper. And it. I didn't think the accent was very good. I wasn't really buying, like, it wasn't an amazing acting performance. So I have no idea why she won. And it should have been to me.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Then best actor went to Adrien Brody for the Brutalist, which I feel like is always a good choice. His second, I didn't see.

[Claudia Oshry]

I didn't see this one. So I don't have, like, a strong feeling. But of the ones that I did see, I do feel like they could have given it to Ray Fines. Oh, that was a funny joke Conan made. Like, if you lose again tonight, we're allowed to call you Ralph. Funny.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's funny. I wish it went to Timothy.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, I saw that movie. It was bad. Sorry. I don't think. I don't wish it went.

[Jackie Oshry]

He just won the SAG Award. He made a speech, but Kylie wasn't there because she was grieving. And then she's there last night, like, with the camera. I just would have loved to see it. And I don't have a horse in this race. And Adrien Brody, like, disappointed his whole community. So, like, why not Timothy?

[Claudia Oshry]

Except he did something so cute. We need to talk about his speech. Okay. So he really couldn't believe that he won. He's, like, hugging everyone, giving Georgina the biggest kiss. Like, doesn't want to let go of his girl. His girl. He's walking up the stairs, then he realizes he has gum in. He's like, oh, shit. But he's, like, halfway up the stairs, so he takes the gum out, and he's, like, looking around for what to do with it. And Georgina is, like, running after him. She sees him in this predicament. Georgina's running, like, with, like. With, like, the rapper, you know? And he tosses it in the air. She goes to catch it. She did miss it. But, like, she picked it up off the ground. It was such a funny, like, sweet, supportive moment. I saw people online being like, this is outrageous. Throwing your Trash at a woman. Shut up. It was funny. Like, it was funny. I thought it was really sweet. And it made them so real. Like, that's your partner. It's this huge moment for them.

[Jackie Oshry]

Let them throw you. Accept an Oscar with gum in your mouth. Both.

[Claudia Oshry]

No. And he acknowledged her in the speech. He called her his partner. And he spoke of her kids, which is so crazy because it's like Harvey Weinstein's kids. And I think he referred to himself as, like, a nickname. He was like, popsy. He said something like, popsy did it, or popsy won. Like, are you saying you're their dad? I mean, their dad's in jail. So, like, they need a father. He's not the stepfather. He's a father who stepped up. Like, I. I thought I heard that, but don't quote me on that. So I thought the whole exchange was actually really sweet. And I love them together. And I'm putting aside, like, my distaste for his speech because I can hold space for multiple things at once. It was a very cute moment. And it was a really.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh.

[Claudia Oshry]

And then he couldn't remember. He was, like, thanking everyone on his team and his family. And his family, his family. And he's like, I feel like I'm forgetting. And then they cut to Georgina, and she's screaming, your mom, your dad, your parents. She's literally telling him who he forgot. They're totally, like, in love. They're a real couple. Like, they are party.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, Kylie and Timothy, they're so.

[Claudia Oshry]

Kylie and Timothy were on camera quite a bit because, you know, in the monologue, they love to, like, poke fun at everyone. And Timmy had, like, a whole bit with Adam Sandler, and Kylie was, like, cut out for, like, a lot of the. I was wanting to scream at the cameraman.

[Jackie Oshry]

They are.

[Claudia Oshry]

Zoom the fuck out.

[Jackie Oshry]

Another disgusting program.

[Claudia Oshry]

Zoom out. Kylie's here. And then when they did show her, she seemed to, like, not want to be laughing at jokes. Either she didn't understand them or she didn't want to. Like, you know, a laugh is an endorsement. So she was just being very political.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. No, she. She definitely is diplomatic and doesn't want to, like. And also, something could. She might have. Yeah. Just staying out of it. But they can't keep their hands off each other, those two. And they've been dating a while now, so you would think, like, the lust era might have ended, but no, they're obsessed.

[Claudia Oshry]

And Pauline was there. I love to see Pauline out there shaking that thing. College girls. Yes. I think he's another Brother, too, but he's not in Sex Lives of College girls, so I don't know him. Yeah, but they all took, like, a family photo. Kylie skipped the carpet, but met him right at the seats. You know, making and letting him have his moment. Timothy looked really cute in his yellow outfit.

[Jackie Oshry]

He did. I liked it. It was a good night for them.

[Claudia Oshry]

Even though his movie took home not one award, I didn't think it was deserved. None of these movies were good, by the way. Like, it was a particularly bad year for movies. Because when you think about last year, like, Elvis, right? Like, even though it didn't win everything, it was like Glamour and everyone was talking about Aston, but there was, like, nothing like that this year. Wicked. Oh, yeah. But see, people refuse to give Wicked. Even myself. Like, look, I'm so. As a critic myself, I'm so sort of inured to not giving it the credibility it deserves, even though it is, like, it was the biggest movie of the year. If we can talk about Barbie at the Oscars in a real way, we could talk about Wicked at the Oscars in a real way.

[Jackie Oshry]

More so than Barbie. Also, even though I really liked Elvis, I wouldn't even. I didn't even. I don't think it was that good.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, you know, I enjoy what I mean.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'm saying, like, that's kind of like. Like, Rocket Man. That was, like, a good, stupid movie. And, like, Bohemian Rhapsody was a more serious version. I don't know what the difference was. But, like, Bohemian Rhapsody deserves awards. Rocket man doesn't.

[Claudia Oshry]

Speaking of Rocket Man, Diane Warren lost again. I believe it was her 16th Oscar loss. And just give the woman a Oscar.

[Jackie Oshry]

Give her an Oscar. Especially because this wasn't a year where there was, you know, a Let it go from Frozen, like something undeniable. Of course, we could have skipped Amelia Perez. And also, Oscars are about a body of work, right? Sometimes it's not just about what you did this year, but, like, everything in the past. Leonardo DiCaprio, waiting for Revenant, Give it to Diane Warren. Also, that song sounded parchy.

[Claudia Oshry]

That song did sound really good. I hadn't heard of the. The song with her, but it sounded really good. And the winner was Amelia Perez. Like, are you kidding me?

[Jackie Oshry]

This was the year to give it to Diane Warren.

[Claudia Oshry]

Of all the reasons why Amelia Perez, like, was the worst movie. And so offensive was because of the music. It was seriously, like, bad music. So for them to have won the music category was offensive.

[Jackie Oshry]

It was then Best Supporting Actor. Man. Man went to Kiernan Culkin. A real pain. I really liked his speech. I didn't realize what it was lacking until you share. But your bar is.

[Claudia Oshry]

Sorry.

[Jackie Oshry]

Very high.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's him and his cousin go to Poland after their grandma, who's a Holocaust survivor, dies. I didn't. I almost did, but it again, I have such a hard time. I can acknowledge, like, how close. And that's what even we were saying about. Nobody wants this. Like, we're so critical of anything that reflects our culture because it's usually bad. So I was just not in the mood to, like, take umbrage with the film. Do you know what I mean? Because it's set in modern times. It's not like an old school Holocaust.

[Jackie Oshry]

They're like, I saw a review of it that was actually looked like a good review. Made me want to watch a movie. It's like two guys are trying to, like, stave off a midlife crisis, so they go to the camps, you know, to kind of put things in perspective. Like, life's not so bad. I thought there was a funny quote. It's like you're the product of like a thousand miracles because, like, their grandma survived and you're gonna overdose on sleeping pills. Like, I don't think so.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right, right. That's funny.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. And so I was like, actually, this looks good. I actually might watch it. But then they showed a clip from it. The two boys are on the train, like, talking about the train ticket. And they're like, something about the twelve dollar train ticket and how they used to live here, but they were all kicked out because they're cheap. They thought we were cheap.

[Claudia Oshry]

I'm like, yeah, really? All right. Right. I didn't watch it because I really wasn't in the mood to, like, be a hater again. Do you know what I mean?

[Jackie Oshry]

Perfect.

[Claudia Oshry]

I need to pick and choose.

[Jackie Oshry]

Not gonna be. But I did see a good review. I feel like there's hope. Except for the nice.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay, I have a problem with him. Who. Who else was nominated in the category?

[Jackie Oshry]

Anora Yura, Edward Norton, a complete unknown motherfucker. Pierce, the Brutalist, and Jeremy Strong, the Apprentice.

[Claudia Oshry]

So the only other person that I thought should have won, which is funny, considering I have such a hate for Honora, is the guy who was nominated because he was an amazing actor. Like, the movie was bad. This is what I'm saying. You have to separate the performer from the performance. Honora was like, such a dumb movie. This guy was actually an amazing actor. He's relatively unknown and you couldn't get a read on him the whole time. Like, he actually was a really important person in the movie. So if anything from Anora was going to win, like, I wanted it to be that guy because I liked his character and he did an amazing job. But whatever, whatever.

[Jackie Oshry]

Then best director went to Anora.

[Claudia Oshry]

All in all, like, it was just such a dumb evening. Like, the movies were dumb, the people were dumb. Oh, you didn't say Zoe Saldan. Did we say.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, no, sorry, That's. I meant to go back. Yeah. Best Supporting Actress, Zoe Saldana. Amelia.

[Claudia Oshry]

And I just wanted to say I thought her speech was out of control. Like, classic. Like, she was really nutty at the Golden Globes, and it was, like, funny but weird. And she just brought the same energy. I thought she was really nutty. I actually loved the way that she looked. I thought she looked. I've seen a lot of, like, hate for her dress. I thought she looked beautiful. And I just thought it was like, such a crazy speech. Like, I was just like, oh, it was a lot. And then she went backstage and was doing press and she got asked a question because the movie's been, like, highly criticized. Criticized especially by. No, By Mexicans.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. No, but I mean, not by critics. By people.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes. Right. By fans. And there was a reporter from, like, a Mexican publication who was Mexican herself and was like, what do you say to, like, the people in Mexico who were just, like, really disheartened to see you, like, make a film at the heart of Mexico and all you're talking about is, like, drug cartels and murder, which is like something we are known for, that we shouldn't be. We have other things to offer, like a beautiful culture. And she basically told this woman to go fuck herself. She was like, we made the movie in Mexico, but it's not about Mexico.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's about.

[Claudia Oshry]

It could have happened.

[Jackie Oshry]

Women.

[Claudia Oshry]

It couldn't have happened anywhere. It's about the women. And it was actually like a really media trained.

[Jackie Oshry]

And she really gaslit her because she was like, I'm so sorry. I never mean to cause any offense, but this movie was made with love.

[Claudia Oshry]

And like, we, like, you can think that and you have every right to, but here's why it's dumb.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, I kind of like that's.

[Claudia Oshry]

She was just sort of like, cutting out Mexico from the. She was like, yeah, we might have filmed in Mexico, but it was fudgeing, irrelevant. Like, nobody cares about Mexico. And it was like. Well, actually, the whole. The whole movie. I agree. It was done in Spanish. It was actually really about Mexico.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

It was the backdrop. And the same way that, like, Brighton beach was the backdrop of Anora and the Nora girl, like, the people of Brighton Beach.

[Jackie Oshry]

The movie can be about four women and Mexico.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right, right. But also, the movie was special because the woman in particular, Emilia, was a Mexican cartel drug lord before transitioning to becoming a woman.

[Jackie Oshry]

What was her name? I put. What was her name before she becomes Amelia.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, she had, like, a drug cartel name, like, the Monster or something. Like.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like the.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, El Chapo, you know, Like, I don't know what. Like, I don't realize what, like, the government name was, but the drug cartel had, like, a name, and it was like, the leader of. It was, like, El Chapo.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, yeah, Like a.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like a nickname.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, a nickname. Like, dirty.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, Like a surname, you know?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. I kind of want to just. Just know.

[Claudia Oshry]

I just really. Like, I really did not enjoy the Oscars at all. And I'm annoyed because, like, I was really curious to see if, like, for the first year, where I watched almost all the movies, would it have been a different. And maybe if I had chosen a different year, like, where the movies were, like, they were competitive, like. Yeah, if there were so many good movies that we couldn't even choose, you know? But, oh, my God, it was seriously, like, this is the state of filmmaking. James Cameron is rolling over in his grave. Like, it was so lame, and every movie was, like, stupid. And I don't know, I just. It wasn't giving Oscars. Do you know what I mean?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, but I think this is what the Oscars are giving now. Yes.

[Claudia Oshry]

But even when I think about recent years, like, there are movies that stand out that we still talk about, like, Green Book, you know, like.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like Green Book.

[Claudia Oshry]

Do you know what I mean? Like, none of the movies from this year will be remembered besides Wicked.

[Jackie Oshry]

Green Book is a great movie.

[Claudia Oshry]

Green Book was an amazing movie. And I remember that year. We watched a lot of the movies. Also. The one with the billboards.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, the.

[Claudia Oshry]

The Francis.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, we watched that one. I can't. Yeah, like, that was a bad movie.

[Claudia Oshry]

But I'm saying every year, like, there.

[Jackie Oshry]

But that one was every watch.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, yeah, they're. I didn't think that movie was so bad, actually. Yeah. Something happens to their daughter, they take out billboards in, like, this small town. Like, I. Like. I'm just saying movies come to mind in recent years that I've seen. Like, I don't think we'll be talking about these films ever again.

[Jackie Oshry]

I agree. And just to circle back, Amelia Perez's Original name. The nickname was Manitas. Does that sound right?

[Claudia Oshry]

That's what I mean.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Means handyman or man who does jobs.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay. Like, go off.

[Jackie Oshry]

Amelia.

[Claudia Oshry]

When that. When that Emilia Perez songwriter started singing on stage, like, I knew we had to. Like, I needed to.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. That was just kind of like a great end to this run for Emilia Perez.

[Claudia Oshry]

And they were nominated twice in the song category. Like, it's fucking crazy.

[Jackie Oshry]

I guess, like, no other musicals really came out this year that were really.

[Claudia Oshry]

But the original song category doesn't do musicals. Like, people write songs for the soundtrack.

[Jackie Oshry]

Usually it's like an animated movie. Like, they always have, like, Coco.

[Claudia Oshry]

There's always one. Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Moana.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

So that's why. Surprising. And that's why this was the year to give it to Diane Warren, because there was nothing that was undeniable.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. It's true.

[Jackie Oshry]

Do you feel like you're done talking about the Oscars?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, there really, like, actually wasn't even that much to say. I guess I didn't have, like, that many hot takes. Just that, like, I didn't like Conan. I thought Honora was, like, not worthy. Not worthy and understood.

[Jackie Oshry]

No. I'm in a place where I'm very removed from this year's Oscars. The movies, the ceremony. Like, turning it off. Like, thank you for.

[Claudia Oshry]

It was a good year for you to skip.

[Jackie Oshry]

Thank you for offending me because I wanted to turn it off and now I had cause. Just pile of.

[Claudia Oshry]

It was a good year to skip.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Well, maybe next year. Better luck next year. Are you ready for our next story?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Kourtney Kardashian are dressed as a viral rumors that her son Mason, 15. Reminder, reminder to us. 15, has a baby. In a rare statement. So this is what she said. I rarely address rumors or conspiracies regarding myself or my family, but this is about my child. And it feels wrong to let anyone think for a second that these lies are remotely true. They are not.

[Claudia Oshry]

Not.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'm hanging my head in shape. Me.

[Claudia Oshry]

I am hanging my head like me. As I read this, I thought that's what you were saying that she wrote that I'm like, oh, I didn't read that part of the statement.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'm sorry.

[Claudia Oshry]

Unquote.

[Jackie Oshry]

Jackie saying, as I read this, I am hanging my head in shame. Back to the quote. Mason does not have a child. These accounts that pretend to be him are definitely not. They are fake. My son really values his privacy, and I'm asking all media to please be respectful. He's a kid with Feelings and a beautiful life ahead of them. Please stop spreading false narratives and spinning lies to all the other people making videos about my kids, who, by the way, are minors. Please stop and leave them alone. Okay, now, I just want to say.

[Claudia Oshry]

I feel. I just want to say Claudia brought it up.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, I. I didn't make it a story. And Claudia brought it up. That's what I want to say.

[Claudia Oshry]

I want to say that I feel a little bit of peace knowing she's not referring to us directly because she's talking about people who make the accounts.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. The video that I saw, where it's, like, someone talking.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, Talking.

[Jackie Oshry]

Head of green screen in front of this fake screenshot of Mason's fake finsta.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's.

[Jackie Oshry]

She's talking to that person.

[Claudia Oshry]

She's talking to the people who make the finstas, the people who, like, spread. I guess, like, that technically was us, but. And I'm sorry. Like, she's so right. I. Some lessons need to be learned the hard way. I am hanging my head in shape. I shouldn't have brought it up. It just, like, came across my desk and, like, that's why I hate this job sometimes. Like, you're forced to do things that you don't. And I knew it was wrong.

[Jackie Oshry]

Out of character.

[Claudia Oshry]

I knew it was wrong, like, of course. And you know what? Even if Mason did have a child, still none of our business. Oh, speaking of, you know what I'm gonna watch this week? I've seen a lot of talk about it on social media. Ruby, Frankie Hulu documentary. Like, the mommy blogger.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Apparently, like, apparently she, like, filmed a lot of her abuse, like, as vlog content, like, yelling at everyone and, like, didn't delete it. So they have a lot of things from her hard drive. And I've been seeing it go viral on social media, and that was a story that I, like, I know about, but I don't know a lot of the details, so I think I'm gonna add that to my list.

[Jackie Oshry]

Let me know how it is. If you would recommend it. I would maybe watch it, but it let me know if it's, like, really upsetting.

[Claudia Oshry]

Bothersome.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, also, like, you know, I think a lot of people have been asking me, like, turdi, are you gonna put your kids on social media? And I'm definitely not. And I think that this documentary will only further my decision. Like, I don't judge people who put their kids on social media, but I think that after watching this documentary, I.

[Jackie Oshry]

Might start to judge them.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Also something that's Been in the news is that new California law that we haven't spoken about, but California now has a law that if your kids are in your content, if you do like a family channel, if they're in like, what is it, 30%, 30% of your content, then you need to give them earnings and like put it in an account for that. By law, if you're.

[Claudia Oshry]

If your kids account for 30% of your content, then 65% of the revenue that the kids bring in needs to be put into a trust for the child. This is like a new child labor child exploitation law that passed in California a couple of weeks ago. And I actually think it's a great law and a lot of people are talking about it online. Actually they're kind of targeting a couple of creators because like the LeBrant family, I don't know if you know who that is. They're like a bit. They're one of the biggest YouTube family channels. They have like five kids now. They're moving out of California and people are like, well, it's because they don't want to pay their kids. And I don't know if that's true or not. But then Brittany Xavier, who's a tiktoker who makes content with mostly her husband and they're like 18 year old daughter, but they also have two other kids who get, who get in the content. She's also moving to Tennessee and people are like, well, it's because you don't want to pay your kids. She actually responded, she was like, are you fucking kidding me? Like, I. Every time my kids are in a video of mine, and I've said this for years, I pay them. We're moving out of California for X, Y and Z. They're like, I think she wants like live on a farm. She's very like homesteader.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. There are other valid reasons for wanting to move out of California, especially after the fires. So it's not because people don't want to pay their kids. I also follow Brittany Xavier and it's like, it's not. She's not like a family channel. Like, yeah, her kids are there sometimes like for something, but it's like, that's not what she does.

[Claudia Oshry]

No. You can tell when like a parent sets up a tripod in the kid's room and like holds a gun to their head to like dance on camera. That's not Brittany Xavier. I, I agree. The LeBrand family does definitely either a.

[Jackie Oshry]

Family channel and a family like that 100 like this law is good for them.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's fabulous.

[Jackie Oshry]

And as long as they're, like, good people, they would have already been doing something like this, so it shouldn't change. And if they're. If this really changes their operation, then they're not operating in good faith.

[Claudia Oshry]

Agreed.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, this should be something that, like, doesn't even change people's day to day. Because they were doing something like this.

[Claudia Oshry]

Because they were already doing it. Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. So we'll see if any big people start leaving. But I really don't think that's why.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, I don't either. And I actually don't think that California is, like, the most popular place for family channels to exist. I feel like it's, like, a lot of Utah, a lot of Texas. Like, I don't think that it's a very California like thing.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, agreed. Because they're the dreamers.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right? Back to Mason. I just want to say, like, I'm sorry. I was. I was wrong. I'm sorry. And I'm sorry.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'm sorry to Courtney dragging you down.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, it was so wrong. It was so wrong. I didn't. I didn't say that I believed it. I just, like, was remarking on how crazy it was that people were saying it like it was already. I didn't make it a thing, so I don't want to take responsibility for that. But, like, I shouldn't have brought it up. It's gross.

[Jackie Oshry]

I believe I said there's beauty in it, which if true, Like, I would stand by because I think it would be a beautiful thing.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. A baby is a blessing.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. And we were. There was actually, like, some sweet parts. Like, a baby would have a great, great living grandmother. Like, there was. There was beauty in it.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, I guess. I guess we did talk about it.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, at length, but I'm gonna script that back. We were wrong for bringing it up. I blame Claudia, and now we're moving on.

[Claudia Oshry]

And you know who I blame? Whoever sent me that. Tick tock. Like, I forget who it was, but.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, we will think five times before we speak. Before we speak.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Are you ready for our next story?

[Claudia Oshry]

Number four.

[Jackie Oshry]

Number three. Claudia, if you have to ask.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, my God.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'm testing. I'm testing this theory because someone said every time Claudia's what number story it is, it's always number three. So, like, now every time you ask, we need to check.

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, especially recently, I've been asking because in our new studio setup, you don't have a clock near you where you can see the time, and I actually think you need one. Because, like, you would be moving. I just would be moving differently.

[Jackie Oshry]

I just need to move my Rodecaster away from. From the lights. It's the reflection that stops me from being able to see it. But it is our third story, and I'm going to carry on with it, please, because Bethany Frankel says that Alex Earl stood her up for dinner. So Bethany had a long weekend in Miami that was very early because she was supposed to go to dinner with Alex and Braxton at Carbone. She gets to the restaurant, she starts filming for everyone that Alex and Braxton stood her up. So she eats alone with her phone and takes everyone through the menu and whatnot. But there was, like, no bad blood. She said that they're going to reschedule. Then they were seen together. They made some tiktoks together.

[Claudia Oshry]

They had dinner the next night. Like, they made it right?

[Jackie Oshry]

They went out. Apparently, Alex was sick from all of her travel, and she couldn't make the original dinner.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's not what happened.

[Jackie Oshry]

What happened?

[Claudia Oshry]

So Bethany tiktoks all the time. You know, like, she makes, like, a lot of content every day. And that night, she makes a TikTok, the first one from the series. And it's like, you know when the hot young influencer, like, stands you up for dinner?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

And people started spiraling, and Bethany then, like, made a thousand tiktoks about it, explaining that they had this dinner plan. She wasn't sure if Braxton was coming, but it was totally her and Alex, and it was at Carbone. And she gets to the table, they gave her this great table, and she texts Alex, being like, by the way, they sat me in the corner. And, you know, when Bethany's telling the story, she's being like, you know, they're young, they're kids, so, like, I'm sure they're going to be late. She's just being, like, a little derogatory the whole time. And then Alex calls her, and she's like, oh, my God, is that tonight? She was like, I totally mixed up the dates. Like, I'm so, you know, crazy from traveling. I'm so sorry. Super apologetic. But she got the date wrong, and she didn't stand her up. She just, like, mixed it up. It was a mistake. And Bethany then, like, decides to just be like, it. You know, I'm having dinner by myself at Carbone. She has this fabulous meal. She's taking videos of herself eating. You know, the whole thing being like, when somebody stands you up, like, be your own independent woman and, like, have dinner by yourself. I know.

[Jackie Oshry]

And she was like, I'm gonna sit here for you guys so I could take you. Yeah, I hate that. It's like, I'm fine and I'm hot.

[Claudia Oshry]

She's like, well, I'm at this bougie restaurant, basically the undercurrent being like, that you guys could never be at. And so I'm going to eat here for you.

[Jackie Oshry]

And what was annoying, it's like, she's at Carbon and she's like, I'm not having pasta tonight. I'm gonna have a fish in a salad. Like, I don't need to see. We had a fish in the salad. I want to see that rigatoni.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's so true.

[Jackie Oshry]

Show me the Tony.

[Claudia Oshry]

So the next day, like, the content doesn't stop from Bethany being like, get unready with me getting stood up.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Miami dinner fit to not meet Alex.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right. So she's just like kind of beating a dead horse. And Alex is like, you know, being, you know, a good sport, leaving comments, being like, oh, yeah, I hear that Alex Earl sucks. And then the next night they get together. Alex brings her like a dozen roses. They make a million tiktoks about it. Like, all good. Now I just want to say, and I think that I've met Alix Earle a couple of times. I do not know her by any means, but, like, the vibe that I got is she's an extremely nice girl. And I do not think, like, the crazy rise to fame has affected her at all. I think she's really down to earth. Her friends from college are still her best friends. Like, she's really. I think she's a. Except for Sandra, I think she's a really, really nice girl.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yes.

[Claudia Oshry]

And I really believe that's good vibes. Yeah. And so I. And I think if anything, like, her fault is, like, maybe she's a little naive. I think that might have been the case with the unwell thing that we've just been talking about. Because if I'm Alex Earle, I'm like, I'm kind of hating Bethany because you.

[Jackie Oshry]

Think Alex Earle is being too nice about this.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. And I think that if we never. I wouldn't be surprised if we never see these two interact again. Like, Alex wanted to make it right, like, go to dinner, like. Yeah. But I don't know. Mistakes happen. I don't. I don't believe in any way that she didn't show up in bad faith and, like, wanted to stand up Bethany Frankel. I think it really was a mix up. She's A young girl. She's a lot going on. She parties a lot. Like, it happens, right? And what's the worst feeling than being like, someone's at the restaurant in your pajamas? Like, I'm sure she felt horrible. Like, really, really horrible. So to then, like, have Bethany make, I swear, 20 tick tocks about it, and I'm not even exaggerating. And it's just, like, beating home, like, this thing you're probably embarrassed about that you feel bad about. I just felt like. Like Bethany did a little too much. And I know Bethany. This is Bethany's shtick. That's why she's as successful as she is. Is like, every time something minor happens, like, she went to a Chanel store and she said that they turned her away because she looked ugly or whatever. Like, she makes it a moment, and that's how she's so relevant. It's. It's brilliant, like, media strategy. And so this is what she does. And I just feel like if I'm Alex Earl, like, I'm a little annoyed.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, I think there was a point.

[Claudia Oshry]

She'S doing a little too much.

[Jackie Oshry]

It was like, okay, now we're eating. And if I was Alexa, I'd be glad that she's getting all this content from it, because it's like, okay, now I don't feel so bad.

[Claudia Oshry]

At least I could give her this.

[Jackie Oshry]

Had a viral dinner and. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I do hope that, like, at some point it stops, you know, and it's. Or it stopped, like, at dinner. I hope they had a nice dinner. We don't know what happened at their dinner. Like, what they were talking about, what their relationship was before this. Because I just saw Bethany doing a video about the Licks versus Lex drama, and she was saying that she's met both women. There's no drama. They're both amazing.

[Claudia Oshry]

It was a particularly bad take, and Bethany usually is very good.

[Jackie Oshry]

I thought it was bad, too, but I think it was just, like, she wanted to. To weigh in. I think she has relationships with both of them, and both of them didn't want to say anything that would piss off the other. And so. And maybe this is actually how she sees it, because I think what she's saying is I think what she wants, like, it's a definitely a thing that could happen. Just two people in business and it's business and it's whatever. And that's true. Sometimes she wants that to be true, but I don't think that's what happened here.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's so not true. And Alex Actually, over the weekend was doing a get ready with me, blicks and licks. She On TikTok, like, very briefly mentioned. She's been like. There's been, like, a lot of chatter online, like, about the podcast. And honestly, like, I was. I'm just as surprised as you guys. That's all she said. Basically being like, the drop was surprise to her. I don't know. She didn't. She really glossed over it. No.

[Jackie Oshry]

I think there's so many things that can mean. And she left us, like, leaving one more one, I think surprised by the use of the word drop that that's how that they would phrase it. She's definitely surprised by that. Or two, it's like, maybe they were battling for a while. Like, I want to leave. I want to take my show. No, you can't. You're with us. Blah, blah, blah. And maybe it was going on for months, ever since the papa got involved.

[Claudia Oshry]

The papa.

[Jackie Oshry]

And then maybe all of a sudden they let her go. Like, maybe they just laid down their arms for whatever reason, and she was surprised that they just gave it up.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, that was her way of finding out. Maybe.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Or that, like, she was surprised when she heard the news. Like, actually, you can walk. And here's your show and bye.

[Claudia Oshry]

Bye.

[Jackie Oshry]

And here's. And then the drop. I think there were elements of it that were surprising to her. So I feel like that is a good way of phrasing it.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay.

[Jackie Oshry]

Euphemistic. But, you know, she's keeping her cards close. She's very shrewd.

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, when it comes to the Bethany thing, like, I just want to say if we never see these two hanging out again, I think that's why I feel like the comment section, what I.

[Jackie Oshry]

Got from this is that they have a deeper friendship than we know where they can, like, like, Barb like this on social media. But what do I know?

[Claudia Oshry]

I don't. I don't think so. I don't think so. Even the comments at first were like, oh, my God, lol, Like, fun, fun. And then everybody was like, okay, Bethany, you're really, like, beating a dead horse. Like, did you have to make 30 tick tocks about it? Like, so the narrative started to change, and I'm just. I'm actually really curious what Alex's thoughts on it are like, oh, all in good fun. Or like, okay, back off a little bit.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. I wonder what they're having dinner about.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, just like Miami Grills.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Business women.

[Claudia Oshry]

Tick tockers.

[Jackie Oshry]

Tick tockers.

[Claudia Oshry]

Now, before we continue Are you ready.

[Jackie Oshry]

For the next story?

[Claudia Oshry]

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[Jackie Oshry]

Thank you, Sash Terp.

[Claudia Oshry]

You're welcome.

[Jackie Oshry]

Our next story I must share. Meghan Markle is on the COVID of People magazine ahead of her new Netflix show in a wide ranging interview. The title is the Megan Interview Interview, Harry, the Kids and My Life. Now an inter intimate conversation with the Duchess of Sussex. With a new show and lifestyle brand, Megan is returning to her roots inside her private world in Montecito while she's back in a honeymoon period with Harry and what life is really like with Archie and Lilibet. From pancake mornings to cozy takeout nights, there's a.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay, this is the first I'm hearing of this, but is anybody else, like, really shook?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

By her being on People magazine, I feel like to promote her new Netflix show, she's a former princess. Like, she could have gotten the COVID of Vogue. Like, yeah, People magazine. So first, it's very pedestrian.

[Jackie Oshry]

I saw it this morning when I was reading People mag. Like, it's their cup. It's their top story that she's on the COVID And at first I just read the interview just like, see what she's saying. And it's exactly what you would think. It's the vibes and the, and the, you know, cozy mornings. They love a fried egg. We love a lot of bacon. A couple interesting things which I'll share. But then finishing it, I'm like, this is your big magazine interview before your big Netflix show. Which by the way, I just saw is only eight episodes. Like, that's not enough. But okay. I would have thought maybe, okay, maybe not. Vogue, Reach for the Stars, something Hollywood Reporter L, Variety. W W. Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

So I'm really shocked at because this is like, and People magazine has done a really good job in separating themselves from like the other airport magazines. But it is a tabloid.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. No, but also it's like it's where people go when they want to give an interview and be intimate and personal. But not the queen.

[Claudia Oshry]

No. When you're Meghan Markle, like, you're supposed to have options better than this.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Even like, and it's not even like, even September.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like Home and Garden would have Town and Country would have been inspired and we've been like, super party. But like, we see this from reality stars. Like, like, you know, the bat Christina.

[Claudia Oshry]

Hack has been on the COVID of People magazine.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Yeah. That's really strange now that I think about it. It really is.

[Claudia Oshry]

That was my. When you. Because I've never heard the story until you just brought it up. I didn't know that she did this interview and my first thing was, like, low brow.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, she's not really saying much that we don't already know. However, the Lemonada podcast was mentioned. It says that it's coming in the spring. That's all it said. But now it's like, well, she's gonna have a TV show and a product brand. Like, you don't also need a podcast. That's too much.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, she should have spread it out because she's been like, relatively quiet business wise for like the last year or two since the Lemonada podcast was announced. And that would have been a good time for her to do the podcast. You have to space these things out.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. But, like, I actually feel like her.

[Claudia Oshry]

And Harry are not good at spacing things out. Like, they go dark for a while and then they do book, Netflix, the games. What? The Invictus. They do like a million things at once and then. And then they overlap so hard and then they go dark. It's like they need to make the money. So they work hard for six months and then they spend the money for the next year. Like. Yeah, they need to spread it out a little bit better. Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Well, I. I do think this is like her, you know, goal for spreading it out is to March 4th. Wait, it premieres today. It's Coronation Day.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, my God. Are you gonna be. No, today's March 3rd.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay, that's good. I have to finish my book. Thank God. Honestly, thank you, Megan. Because, like, I have to read all day.

[Claudia Oshry]

But to the list of things we're still waiting for, say, spring 2025. Write that down. Megan's lemonade.

[Jackie Oshry]

Claudia, It's. It's already on the list. I just know us. Did you say to Megan x Lemonade?

[Claudia Oshry]

What does it say? Spring.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, no. Now I'll add our trajectory.

[Claudia Oshry]

Now we have. Now we have a general window.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay, but spring, like, so she has until June 21st.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right. And spring starts technically March 21st. Right.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Well, you know my beef with this March 20th.

[Claudia Oshry]

I know, I know with Rebecca, but I'm saying it's technically three weeks away.

[Jackie Oshry]

So Lemonada could be dropping as soon.

[Claudia Oshry]

As three weeks or as Late as three months.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay, we have our window. What else? Mayhem. Lady Gaga. We're waiting for. I would have forgotten about that.

[Claudia Oshry]

She's getting to work. Like, abracadabra things.

[Jackie Oshry]

We needed to follow up on Beyonce announcement. We can check that off. Thank you.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, yeah. Tour.

[Jackie Oshry]

Keeping up with Sports. Unfortunately, we can't check that.

[Claudia Oshry]

Still radio silence.

[Jackie Oshry]

And then the Carrie Underwood concert dvd, which I do think has come out.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes, I saw it on Hulu. I didn't watch it, but I saw that it was there.

[Jackie Oshry]

And then our content plate. Let's see if we got to any of this.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay.

[Jackie Oshry]

Shogun. No, no.

[Claudia Oshry]

And the time has passed. You could take it off. I'm not watching it.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'm gonna leave it. Lioness back in action. Oh, that's Cameron Diaz. Jamie Foxx. Wait, I need to add that to the list of family. Next time we need a movie as a thing.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, actually, I disagree. I would not agree. I would not. Like, if we all sit down on the couch, be like, yeah, let's watch that. I would. I would be a naysayer.

[Jackie Oshry]

What if it was, like, me, you, and our husbands? That's kind of.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, I would say no.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, my God.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, first of all, that movie came out and nobody moved. I heard not one thing. I heard not one thing about the movie.

[Jackie Oshry]

I know, but these days, like, you'll hear if it's bad, too. There'll be, like, clips, lips, clowning on it.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's true.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay, so see you tomorrow, Megan. I can't freaking wait.

[Claudia Oshry]

Are we ready for the fifth and final?

[Jackie Oshry]

I can't wait for next summer. I'm counting, counting the days. We are ready for the fifth and final, and I do feel like you might have not seen it yet, which is exciting.

[Claudia Oshry]

Breaking news.

[Jackie Oshry]

Ingrid Andres has taken another stab at the national anthem. So. And I do mean stab. The people are saying that she slayed, but I don't think that she did.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, the thing is, is that Ingrid Andres, the whole saga about her, like, being drunk at the All Star Game. And, like, if you don't remember, she sang the all the national anthem at the MLB All Star Game last year. So horrifically, so offensively, and she literally dropped a statement being like, I'm an alcoholic. Like, this is rock bottom. See you guys later. And she went to rehab. She's been kind of quiet since. And now as a part of her comeback, she sang the national anthem at another baseball game, which I actually think was a really good way for her to come back.

[Jackie Oshry]

It was a hockey game.

[Claudia Oshry]

And she did it, sure, whatever. She did it to the best of her abilities. But the thing is, she never should have been tapped in the first place. She's not that type of singer. She's a very sweet, very moody. Yes, very.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like Nora Jones, Maggie Rogers. I don't need to hear Maggie Rogers sing the national anthem.

[Claudia Oshry]

She doesn't belt. You need, like, Broadway people sing national anthem. People with really soulful voices. She never should have been tapped. And so even when she was going to come back and do her best, it still wasn't going to be, like, good.

[Jackie Oshry]

Well, so here's what I got from this. She sang the national anthem, like, the Ingrid Andres way, not drunk. And now I can understand. Like, I thought it was, like, not a good.

[Claudia Oshry]

What she was trying to do.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yes. Like, the other one was so crazy, but it was, like, the drunk version of this, which is already a little crazy because it's not like, there was just a lot of long notes and a lot of, like, riffs. And I didn't love the. Like, she nailed what she tried to do, but I don't like what she tried to do. So now I can also understand how things got so off the rails at the last one. Because she was already going with, like, a twisted version.

[Claudia Oshry]

No. And, like, her best version was never gonna be particularly amazing.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. And there is.

[Claudia Oshry]

So the bar was low.

[Jackie Oshry]

Also, like, even her best sober version, like, sounds drunk. So then when she's drunk, like, it's a mess.

[Claudia Oshry]

Although I think, like, strategy wise, this was a great way for her to get back out there and, like, kind of right the wrong. There was a lot of ways she could have come back. And I don't know if I would have suggested doing another Ashland, but I kind of love it.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, it's hysterical. And I did feel like the audience, I don't know if they were briefed, like, okay, she's coming back. Redemption. Because it felt like everyone was, like, rooting for her to, like, get it right this time. It felt like everyone in the room, like, knew the assignment. So I agree that. And I'm a huge, huge Ingrid Anders fan. I don't feel like I've said that her songs, like, actually make me cry. And I love them.

[Claudia Oshry]

It needs to be said.

[Jackie Oshry]

I love. No, I absolutely. Like, if she drops an album, I'm listening backwards and forwards. So this is. As a fan, I'm glad that we can move on from this because.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes, yes.

[Jackie Oshry]

I wasn't even going to hold a grudge. But we do just need to close the Chapter. Chapter equals closed. I hope Ingrid is doing well.

[Claudia Oshry]

Michio sending well wishes to Ingrid. And maybe, like, let's stay away from sporting events. It's not. It's not your thing. Like, even sober.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Yeah. And so good on her team for.

[Claudia Oshry]

For recognizing this moment, completing the circle. Now let's talk about Love is blind. Quick TV recap. Because seriously, nothing happened. Except, obviously, like, so much. So much happened for me to hate. And I'm gonna. I'm gonna.

[Jackie Oshry]

That should be the title of today's episode. That's.

[Claudia Oshry]

There were three episodes released. We started with five couples, and we're now down to four. Thankfully, Dave and Lauren broke up because watching them for one more minute, like, was so painful. It was actually cruel to make this girl be in a relationship with this guy who just refused to believe her, refused to champion her, refused to defend her. And meanwhile, she's like a doormat being like, love me, love me. I'll do anything for you. Like, it was really painful. So to see her, in the smallest way, stick up for herself. And she didn't even really. Because he broke up with her, but she. She, like, made him break up with her, which I appreciate, because if she just broke up with him, that's exactly what he wanted to, like, get out of this relationship. So I like that she made him do it, but I just, like, it was really painful to watch somebody, like, not even remotely stick up for themselves. And she knew she was right. Like, it was. It was such a painful relationship to be a part of. I'm so glad it's over.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. So I'm still on the honeymoons, but from Dave and Lauren, what I find surprising is, like, I feel like she's very unsure about him. And so it's kind of. This is before all the drama with the guy that he knows, whatever. But I do feel like she's, like, projecting these things onto their relationship. Like, they never even had a fair shot. Like, I feel like from the minute she. She saw him, like, she knew something was wrong, and she never let him in, even. Not that she should, because he turned out to not be a great guy. But, like, she. There was always a blockage between them, and it wasn't like she was like, oh, Dave, I love you.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, I feel like she was really committed to letting this process work, like, slowly and, like, even by the honeymoons, like, she was open to, like, you know, becoming a real couple. And I think that if he had let her in more, like, with. And not made the whole drama such a big Deal. Like, they probably wouldn't have gotten married, but she was really committed to the process, like, of taking it slow, of getting to know, getting engaged, moving in. And he just, like, refused to move forward once he found out that, like, she had a boyfriend. Sorry, she slept with somebody like, a week before the show. He was such a prick. And it was just, like, the obsession with the sister. First of all, we never got the sister. We never got a single one of his friends on the show. And he really made her feel like that was her fault, being like, well, now my sister. Nobody wants to be a part of the show because you had sex with somebody two weeks before coming here. And she was like, well, my family didn't really want to be a part of the show, but half of them did. And the ones that didn't agreed to meet you off camera. So, like, why can't anybody come to the table? Why is every, like, everything was Lauren's fault. It was actually painful to watch him, like, seriously. And then the next, like, couple of nights later, everybody gets together and old people come. Dave and Lauren come, and Molly comes.

[Jackie Oshry]

Molly is the redhead.

[Claudia Oshry]

The redhead. We're very used to, like, people in the pods, you know, being in a threesome. And then, like, the couple breaks up, and the third, the girl then goes and, like, tries to get with Dave. And let me tell you how refreshing it was to, like, hear Molly and Lauren chat. Lauren tells Molly the whole story. She's so disgusted. She's so riding hard for Lauren. She doesn't. She's not even remotely interested in. They don't even talk. Like, she's not even interested in any of it. It was so refreshing to see somebody, like, really not, like, looking out for their own interests, just being like, oh, I'm gonna believe Lauren that this guy sucks, and I'm gonna stay away. Like, it was just such a clean. I made me like Molly so much, and she was, like, listening to the story, so animated, being like, you're kidding. Oh, my God, he's disgusting. It just made me like her so much, and it was really refreshing. We never get that. Because. Another example. Madison, Mason, and Meg, the. The threesome.

[Jackie Oshry]

Hold on, aunt girl. Okay. And Matt and who? And no one got together.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right?

[Jackie Oshry]

Right.

[Claudia Oshry]

So everybody comes to this party, and turns out Meg and Mason have been seeing each other. Like, they connected offline. It's. It sounded like, like, kind of pargy, you know, especially because, like, the way.

[Jackie Oshry]

That they ended was not right.

[Claudia Oshry]

The thing is, he did choose the other girl first. Like, he did, but Whatever.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, I know. Ben Platt explained it really well to Madison when he was defending Mason because he was like, yeah, sometimes you feel stronger, but then when someone else feels better about you, like, then you go in that way. I don't think it's such a bad thing. And yet, if the per. Your first choice doesn't want you, then let me go with my second choice. Like, I just don't think that that's a big deal. I think to normalize that.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

In this process.

[Claudia Oshry]

And Madison. Madison is just fucking dreadful. Like, she comes to this party and there's so much drama, you know, like, she was at the airport and Ben Platt wanted to meet her, and they give her a hug, and then he starts talking shit about Mason. She's telling this cockamamie story. She's like, follow it. Well, that's the other thing. I don't believe anything she says. And she's telling this story like, she still wants to be the main character of this show. And because she didn't get, like, to the honeymoons, she needs to find another way. And I still don't care if everything she's saying is true. Like, I still don't give a lie. Yeah, I just, like, I don't care. And they never even followed up on it, like, after last night's episodes. And then we're at the weddings now, so she makes this whole drama and still nobody cares. Like, there's no moving the needle with her. She's just like, she's not a main character. Sorry. So Dave and Lauren break up. It was really painful. She actually shares that he went to go see his sister off camera, and she wrote a letter to the sister just, like, explaining who she is and, like, that she really, really cares about Dave and that everything being said about her is not true. And she just, like, really wants a chance to meet the sister and show her that she is going to be an amazing wife. And Dave didn't even give the letter to his sister.

[Jackie Oshry]

I know. I seriously hate, hate, hate. I had a bad feeling about him in the pods, but this is worse than I imagined.

[Claudia Oshry]

They're broken up. And now the rest of the episodes are just, like, the final touches on everybody's couples before the wedding. They do the bachelor parties. They go to the mall as their bachelorette party. It was really sad. Oh, and I'm sorry. And they do it. They made it a theme night. Well, I guess the thing in Minnesota that they're known for is the Mall of America. There's like, a big.

[Jackie Oshry]

You didn't Say, the Mall of America.

[Claudia Oshry]

Anywhere else was at the Mall of America. And they also decided to make it a theme night. And they dressed as, like, Mary Kate.

[Jackie Oshry]

And Ashley, old ladies.

[Claudia Oshry]

They wore, like, cardigans and pearls. Yeah, that's a thing. So funny. So let me just give you. Let me give you an update on all couples. I think the couples that we have the strongest chance of seeing get married are, of course, Monica and Joey who have really just been having good conversations, making progress, talking about family. Like, really, I like them so much. And they. This really sweet conversation where he was like. I really appreciated the fact that, like, the first time you met me people really write me off because I'm really goofy and I have this, like, positive personality. And they think that you can't be that but also be, like, intellectual. And I think people often think he's dumb. It was like, I just really appreciated, like, you seeing me for both sides of who I am. Like, I am really smart, but I'm also, like, goofy Joey. It was so sweet. Like, Jackie. I love these two. They make the show worth watching. And I do think they'll get married. I do.

[Jackie Oshry]

Is everyone, like, freaking out because of, like, Friends? Like, Monica and Joey every time you say I think of Friends?

[Claudia Oshry]

No, because Monica and Joey, like, don't end up together in Friends.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, but it just sounds like the friends.

[Claudia Oshry]

It does. It does.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, when you say Monica and Joey, I'm transported.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's fine. But you're also, like, not watching Love is Mine. That's why you're transported. The other couple that I shockingly think has a chance is Shorty and Taco Bell. Nurse Taylor and Daniel.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yes. Oh, my God. And I saw their kerfuffle with the Follows and Jackie.

[Claudia Oshry]

The kerfuffle with the Follows up again. Okay.

[Jackie Oshry]

It was so weird. But it definitely made them stronger. Like, any, like, any conflict.

[Claudia Oshry]

I mean, if I'm her and he's not mad at me and, like, making me feel I love him.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, he was so stalwart. Like, his reaction was too good because he was like, whatever you need.

[Claudia Oshry]

He looks guilty.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, it was too. Like, there's something. There is something. Because his reaction was too perfect that it was wrong.

[Claudia Oshry]

And let me tell you, they have progressed so nicely. I actually think they might get married. He likes her so much. I think she likes. And this is where, like, love is Blind. It's like a good couple for Love Is Blind because she had said she probably would have written him off just because of his height. Like, it's. It's just is what it is. And I actually think they're a great couple. And the whole Christmas thing is really weird. They're like two people who are obsessed with Christmas.

[Jackie Oshry]

Guatemala. And they're like, where should I eat my stocking?

[Claudia Oshry]

Jackie? They did their Christmas cards. It's. It's March.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, my God. Well, they. At least they have plans for the future.

[Claudia Oshry]

And so I do see how she thought he was like, faking it, right?

[Jackie Oshry]

It's too good.

[Claudia Oshry]

So crazy. Yeah. It's so nuts. But no, they both are, like, so obsessed with Christmas. And I actually kind of like them. I think that they'll go all the way. I do.

[Jackie Oshry]

I like that.

[Claudia Oshry]

Now we get to like, the controversial couples who are probably not getting married. Virginia and Devin, what happened? They talk a lot about politics and it's clear he doesn't say, like, Devin and his family are Republicans and Virginia and her family are Democrats. And it's like, can they get past that? And they're having these like, political conversations in. Nobody wants to. To say anything. Right?

[Jackie Oshry]

You're on tv. That could ruin your life. I'm with you.

[Claudia Oshry]

So. So you're all, you're. They're in bed and like, Virginia's clearly trying to bring up politics and we have to watch like 10 minutes of her circling the drain before she brings up like abortions. And it's so painful. Like, just ask the question. And then they. He, you know, he doesn't want to say. He basically says that, like, a lot of his decisions are guided by his faith, which I think he thought was a safe answer because they've really connected over both like being like God loving Christians. And she like immediately hates that because she's seeing like, you know, like pro life energy. And they're not saying any of this. It's all subliminal.

[Jackie Oshry]

But I'm sure it also there's. I'm sure they've spoken about some stuff off camera, so it's like they have what to go off of a little bit, but we don't.

[Claudia Oshry]

So then he's like. She goes, well, what is your family typically like, voting history? He's like, well, my family. And so first of all, just so you know, Devin's dad is black, mom is white, and so he has like a mixed race family. And he says, my family has historically voted pretty conservative. And then Virginia goes, oh, well, like, my family has tend to voted like more progressive, more liberal leaning, you know, because we're black. And I didn't see anybody online being like, that's kind of rude. Like, Devin's family is black too.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, it was like, I think the word is colorist. Like, it's like a thing in the black community. Like, I'm less or more black than you. I could tell he was so offended by the remark. And it was just very. It was kind of. He was like, well, my dad is black. Like, what are. Like, what are you. What are you trying to say? Like, what are you trying to say? And I felt like after that, like, they're done. And now I'm seeing so many, like, flaws because she has this prenup and he comes and reads it, whatever, and he just signs it, you know, because he's not getting married. Like, they're not getting married.

[Jackie Oshry]

And are there issues outside of the politics, do you think? Or is this really.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, no, but how do you not.

[Jackie Oshry]

Talk about politics in the pod?

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, if offline. Oh, yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

And I think that the pods should allow people to talk about politics and that they shouldn't air it because you.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, there should be, like, private hours of the pods.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, yeah. Where you could talk about those things because, like, they could air it and it might not play well, but you should be able to share what you feel. Because if you.

[Claudia Oshry]

If.

[Jackie Oshry]

If you're someone whose politics is really important to you and someone's is diametrically opposed, like, like, you shouldn't. You can't be together. You shouldn't be together.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, an issue with Virginia and Devin, like, I don't think the politics is why they're not gonna end up together. I just think, like, it's another. Because, like, you watch them and she says all the right things. She's, like, so happy. Haha. But there's, like, no life behind her smile. Like, she's just sort of going through the emotions of this. I don't think that they'll get married, but, like, the opposite is happening with Sarah and Ben where I think they like each other a lot.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, I think they really have a lot of potential.

[Claudia Oshry]

And she really likes him. And I think she has, like, you know, straight woman guilt for liking this guy who, like, goes to church. Like, she's really into her social causes and her politics and, like, that's just not his thing. You know, he, like, is just. But he said in. In multiple, like, the things that really matter to her. Like, he would be happy to go to Pride with her. Her sister's lesbian. He'd be happy to, like, go look at other churches that, like, are known for being inclusive. Like, he's really being Flexible with her. And he hasn't said anything. He said like, wait, he said something that was like, my brain. He was like, whatever. He was just basically saying, like, he hasn't given her anything. He's not as passionate. Yeah, but they don't inherently disagree on stuff.

[Jackie Oshry]

He seems pretty apolitical, which I think someone who's, like, passionate about politics and someone who's apolitical, like, I think that works great. I think it's when two people are passionate, like an apocalypse. I feel like there's just too many issues like that arise, but I feel like they could work out. And I think it sounds like she's gonna ruin it for herself or feels like she shouldn't be with him because she should be with someone more passionate. But she could. If these things are important to her and he loves her, like, they will become important to him.

[Claudia Oshry]

So we get to their wedding right up until, like, they're like, sarah, do you? And then it ends. So we see her family and everything. And so I think that, like, who's the first wedding? Sarah and Ben. We haven't seen any weddings yet. So her sister and the sister's wife are, like, definitely, like, skeptical of the whole thing. And they catch them on camera. I don't think they realize they're on camera. They're just waiting for her to come out in the dress and they're like, I think she's gonna say yes, but I think she's only gonna say yes because she thinks she has to. Like, they're hating this whole thing. They hate him. Like, they. They do not want her to get married.

[Jackie Oshry]

Why don't they like him?

[Claudia Oshry]

So it's actually funny because he is very similar to how she grew up. Her parents are very, like, you know, God loving Christians. I think they're really excited about the fact that she might end up with somebody who, like, they would approve of. Yeah, it's like an ideal situation for them. So she's kind of torn between, like, how she grew up and then her sister, who sort of, I would say, like, is further from the life that they grew up, like, knowing. And so she wants to please both sides. So I think that's what the sister was saying. But what I don't think the sister gets is, like, at the end of the day, like, I think Sarah likes him so much, and that just might take. That just might be the end. All. Be all.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. And. And he, like, he says all the right things and it sounds like he means them. And he's open to, like, even he's open to whatever. Like, yeah, I think they can work together.

[Claudia Oshry]

Or I feel like he might just be saying.

[Jackie Oshry]

Because, well, that's something when someone's saying everything you want to hear, and it's like, I don't believe the words coming out of your mouth.

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, I believed him because she wasn't saying anything crazy being like, my sister's gay. Would you hang out with her? Like, yeah. And then they come home and his, like, best friend is lesbian. Like, it's. It's not a thing. But then she brings up on the last day of conversation being like, if, you know, our kid comes home at 12 and says that they want to transition, she, like. And he's just, like, kind of agreeing with her. And I wasn't buying what he was saying. Like, I think that I.

[Jackie Oshry]

So maybe he's gonna say no. Maybe he does.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's what I think. Everyone's like, what's she gonna say? What's she gonna say? I'm like, I don't know. I feel like this whole time he might be, like, placating.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Who do they ask first? Sarah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Her?

[Jackie Oshry]

I think she might say no. And he would have said no.

[Claudia Oshry]

We'll see. The other couple that remains is who? Did I get them all?

[Jackie Oshry]

I feel like you did.

[Claudia Oshry]

There were five. Dave, Virginia, Monica, Sarah, and Ben.

[Jackie Oshry]

Lor and Shoddy.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, okay. I got them all. It's so boring. One of the worst seasons I've ever watched. I'm having fun recapping it. I'm having no fun watching it. It's like pulling teeth. And I'm not gonna lie. Towards the end of this episode, I did start skipping, like, weddings.

[Jackie Oshry]

You can fast forward all the way. We don't need to hear the recap of what we just spent five years watching.

[Claudia Oshry]

Correct.

[Jackie Oshry]

So that's where I do. Hit the fast forward.

[Claudia Oshry]

Hit the fast five.

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't need to watch them in the mirror being like. And also lying to us because they're about to say no.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's what's crazy. I will. Like, I can't get over that. They seriously act like they're having a wedding. And it's like, you're a saying no.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

You're a saying no.

[Claudia Oshry]

So that's the love is blind recap. Wow, that was a long show. We had a lot to do, and I think we did it all.

[Jackie Oshry]

I think we did too. We didn't watch White Lotus last night.

[Claudia Oshry]

No. We'll just. We'll catch up on. I know. Needed one by one is so painful.

[Jackie Oshry]

I know.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's our show. You guys, thank you so much for listening to the Toes and land morning show. We deliver the fastest stories you need to know every Monday, Friday on YouTube. So watching us on YouTube, please subscribe. Give us video thumbs up we found. So that's about the place. Talented we are.

[Jackie Oshry]

Love you.

[Claudia Oshry]

Bye.