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Good morning, girlies.
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It's the Toast.
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It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host.
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It's your favorite show.
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The best five things you need to know.
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We'll start your day off swirly. It's the Toast.
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They sound amazing.
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Welcome back to the Toast and happy Thursday. If we look refreshed, it's cause we are no Love Island. We caught up on our sleep. We're ready to go. Got dear toasters. Hey, Jax, how you doing?
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I'm durn good. Yes. One night free from Love island, and
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it was one of the better nights of my summer.
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The. The flesh has returned to our kitchen.
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Correct. So we were bogged down by, like, this genuinely disturbed group of individuals.
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Yeah, I actually wouldn't have even been able to watch last night, given how my evening went. We were ready for, like, a parchy evening of maj. But little baby Paxton said no. He said, mama and not for you.
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But, like, I ended up just going to bed.
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Yeah, it was like a. You know, it was a bed night.
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I have two things to say. First, that July 9, the beat of your heart, it jumps through your shirt. I can still feel your arms.
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And now, one, I go sit on the floor watching your clothes say. All that I know is I don't know how to be someone you miss. That's beautiful.
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Yes, of course.
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And I know you said that was like a segue. Birthday.
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I want credit.
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Like, birthday eve.
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So chill. Like, I'm so not like other girls.
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Honestly, annoyingly chill. Because, like, when the day comes, you're gonna be like, ratata. What are we doing? What did you play?
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No, no, no, no, no.
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Or if the day passes and it's not special, you're gonna be like, it wasn't special.
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No, no, no. I feel like I've been so chill. First of all, like, let's just go back to that. Like, I haven't even brought up the fact, like, at all this week. Not once on the show. I brought it up that tomorrow's my birthday.
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Okay.
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And that's just on growth. And second of all, I really mean everyone's like, what do you want to do? It's Shabbat. I want to have, like, a beautiful Shabbat dinner with my family. The day, like, we'll come do the toast, maybe we'll go have lunch, like, what we usually do every day.
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Do I need to make a resi.
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No, no, no, no. Every day is special when we're together, like, for real.
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It is. I actually saw someone saying, like. Cause we were saying Heather's not. Pffb. Because we're together. And they were like, well, why don't you tell us how your trip is?
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Our trip is going amazing. Yeah.
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You're like, how many different ways do you want us to say, like, we're having the best time so we're at
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least rub it in, you know, because it's not that it hurts you, it just hurts you, you know?
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And also it's funny. Like, there's not a lot to say when things are so great.
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No, of course. That's why, like, my, my professional life is always slaying when my personal life is going through it. Like when I have lots to complain about. Like, those are the episodes, you know, when things are going amazing. Yeah, nobody wants to hear about that, sweetie.
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No, it's like our house does not have mold.
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Right. We rented a great house this year.
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There are hydrangeas. Like, we're seriously in heaven.
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I love, like, obviously, like, I'm not where I want to be at physically, but like, I'm learning to live with it. Like, yeah, it's all good.
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It's all good in the hood. The fun boy floats arrived. It just keeps getting better.
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And nobody wants to hear that. Like, nobody wants to hear that. So yeah, we'll just dive in.
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You know, we've been farming, we've been
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walking, we've been going for so many walks.
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You've been swimming.
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We've like, seriously, we've never been closer and we've never ever been happier. Is that what you guys want to hear?
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And how many different ways can we really say that? Can we say that for 20 minutes a day?
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Let's do it.
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No, but the Romanoffs went through it, right?
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Talk about people who weren't having a
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swirly summer, who were not having Shalom Bayi and the house in the bite of special purpose thousand percent. So that's how our trip's going.
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We have deer toasters today. We have an update on a decades old dear toasters. I'll leave it at that. It's one we recently unearthed.
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Speaking of Daki told Toasters we sort of went viral yesterday for our.
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Oh, for our take on a viral trend.
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For our piece of viral content.
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Yeah, everyone's like doing it's actually really funny trend where it's like you basically pretend to sit down for a documentary and they're like, me, if they ever made a documentary about like having a fat ass, like, that's literally me. And so we did it being like us, like sitting down for a documentary. If Netflix Ever makes a documentary on toxic Facebook groups. And so Jack and I just spent the morning talking about, like, that era of our career. It was such a crazy time.
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Yeah. And the comments are really taking me back when I think of the toxic Facebook group. Like, I have my core moments. Right?
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Of course. Jessica, rn.
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Other people are like, brown Eyed girl. Ruthie. Ruthie, Jonah.
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And let me tell you, I love the name Ruthie, like, for a baby. But I feel like once I named my first baby Ruby, I could never do, like, a Ruby and a Ruthie. It would be such a confusing household. So now I can say that, like, at one point, that was definitely on my list.
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Yeah.
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And then the lore of, like, Jonah Hill, like, only made me love the name even more. Because that Ruthie, she was a great girl.
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She was a great girl. So justice for Ruthie. But the comments there were so funny. People were saying, like, I missed this time of toast. Like, can we get a Patreon deep dive?
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Oh, sure. More Facebook groups.
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Have we not done that?
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Have we not beat that horse dead.
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Have we not done toast Facebook Toxic groups out of glass.
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I don't know if we've ever done a dedicated episode, but it somehow comes up in every deep dive.
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Maybe we should do the documentary about it. That would actually be like a funny Patreon.
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What's so funny that you're gonna love is, like, I actually recently met a documentary filmmaker and he was like, do you ever, like, want to do like, a documentary?
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I want to do a documentary about it. Like, just for Patreon. Like as an episode on patreon.
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Of course.
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Patreon.com toast I don't actually, like, want to get involved. And then of course, like, people are coming out from, like, their own toxic Facebook groups being like, haha. Like, of course we weren't the only ones.
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Have you guys heard of the Skinny Confidential? Hers was really bad. Yeah, hers had to be shut down. So did our all. Yeah, right. All. There are still groups because people back home. I'm not in it, but people always talk about the Upper east side mom's Facebook group.
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Did it start as a toast group?
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No, no, no. But it is like a quintessential toxic mom Facebook group. Like, I. The things I hear from my friends were in it, like, are so crazy. They're always sending me screenshots. So some of those groups still do exist, but it was very much like a 2020 era type thing.
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Yeah, no, but it was different when it was like, for your favorite podcast or show or whatever it is. But it was a lot of podcasts. Like if you had a podcast, you
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just had a group, you made a face.
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That' you did.
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It's just what you did. Yeah, it was like kind of like, you know, you make an Instagram for your podcast, you make a Facebook group for your podcast. Like that's what it was.
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Yeah.
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It was such a crazy time.
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It was so that was a fun trip down memory lane and.
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Yeah. What else?
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Oh, and then I had my own day yesterday. Like I said that I would. Yeah. We put together and then I didn't tell you about it, so. Do you want to hear about it?
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Yeah. Because I came home and did nothing.
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So I went around swamp and got myself lunch because I didn't have a meal the day before, so.
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Fascinating.
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I had a delicious AI tuna salad.
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Wow.
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And then I picked up some nice things for the house. Of course, some treats. We had tacos for dinner. So I got like some guac, some chips. I didn't go crazy cuz I could only carry so much, but I did do what I said I was going to do when I went around.
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You're a woman of your word. I am a woman of integrity.
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Then I went shopping like I said I was going to do. I got this new cup. It's Ralph Lauren coffee cup.
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I love shopping for cups.
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I love this cup. So can I say I was so excited to wake up this morning and use my new cup.
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I know, I get it. Cup culture. I feel like I used to. It used to pass me by. I used to see people like showing off their cabinets of cups. I'm like, seriously, you guys are crazy. How many cups do you need? And some people do take it too far, like beating each other up to get like the Starbucks collabs. But like I fully get now like the cup obsession. I just want myself a new Stanley. And I just want to say not to like put Stanley on blast, but if you're paying full price for a Stanley.
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You didn't.
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No, I didn't. Yeah, No, I would never.
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You got it at home goods.
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That's what I'm saying. Do you know how many they have at home goods? I guess they're like the overstock colors or whatever. This is a cute purple cup.
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Oh, you would say. I thought you were saying if you're paying full price for a Stanley, like it better not leave. No, no.
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If you're paying full price for a Stanley, like, you're dumb. Like, do not ever pay unless it's like a brand new collab with love Shack, fancy like that. I understand.
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I once paid so much money.
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I know. I always think about the fact that you told me one time you bought a 60 Stanley.
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I think it was like 80.
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Yeah. I'm sorry. Do you know how many they have at TJ Maxx Home Goods and Marshalls? Like hundreds of brand new. And it's not like they're duty brown
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and they're not family. They're Stanley, they're Stanley brand.
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They're. I saw pink, I saw blue, I saw green. They have something for everyone. Boys, girls, what are you buying? A Stanley, Full price for every time I go to TJ Maxx, Marshalls and homegoods I'm like so surprised that they have Stanley's. I don't know why I'm surprised. But they have like racks and racks of them.
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Yeah.
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Guys, cardboard, cardboard, tip of the day.
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Cardboard, tip of the day.
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Do not be buying Stanley's.
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Or you could buy this one.
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How much did you buy?
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Honestly? No. I don't even know. And I need to have a referendum on Apple Pay because. Oh yeah, yesterday I hit the shops. I was just, I had a little bit of like time in between my two activities. So I was just had time to kill and like I said I will buy anything. People always say like with Apple Pay like it's out of control.
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Apple Pay is. People always compare different things. Like it's monopoly money. Apple Pay is monopoly money.
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I think the act of having to get my credit card out of my bank would make me stop and think about what is it worth doing that?
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Yeah. And I would love to actually remove Apple Pay from my phone in an attempt to save money. But like it's a life saving device. Of course if I'm ever out, like if you ever. Part of like being a New Yorker is like growing up, getting into a cabin, like realizing you have your wallet. Like it was such a scary thing. Like what do you do? No, not with Apple Pay. That's the thing in the past, like for my safety, I have to have it.
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I actually got my manicure and I intended to pay with like my card and then tip and cash and I didn't have my wallet. I didn't have it. That never happens to me. I was like, you take Apple Pay, thank God. But like it's really a dangerous device in the hands of the wrong person. Me.
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How many cards do you have on your Apple Pay?
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Just one.
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Got about four.
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Just one. And she goes hard in the paint.
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Yeah, I saw, I used it yesterday.
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You saw me use it Yesterday I used it. Oh, you used mine. Like, I guess my receipts from Apple Pay are on my phone. Like.
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Yeah.
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Oh, excuse me, I didn't buy that today.
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No, but then you get to see, like, the, the vendors. Real, real company holding. Holding company names.
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Yeah, Like, I was buying sunglasses, sunscreen. I went to the hardware store. Of course I could find something.
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What do you need?
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At the hardware store, I was. I didn't find what I needed, but I got another collapsible laundry basket. Always good to have. Always, always good to have in the house. Because I had been previously sharing a hamper with Max and I thought we could each have our own.
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Oh, that's kind of indulgent. I share a hamper with Ruby and Ben.
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I share a hamper with Zach. But I just feel like Paxty needed his own little one. I might have gotten a little something for my sister.
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Me. Oh, why is there a special day coming up?
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I might have been brought up. I might have gotten you a little bit of something.
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Well, I would hope so. It's a special day.
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I don't even remember what that store was, so. Yeah, I think I hit seven stores.
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Go.
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You charge it.
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Shopping is her cardio.
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It really was.
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You, like, need that T shirt.
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And also the game has changed because I have my Tesla here, which can parallel park. I personally can't parallel park. And like, so ordinarily I actually wouldn't have gone to Ralph Lauren because it's only parallel park.
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Well, there's parking in back. It's like a long walk.
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It's just too much. I didn't want to go that badly, but there was a spot right out front. Tessie parked for me.
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Beautiful.
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Like, I love loving in this day and age. Like we said yesterday, I really felt like a modern woman.
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You are a modern woman.
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Yeah, no, but I really was taking advantage of all of the modern conveniences. Yesterday I got a pair of shorts from Ralph Lauren. They went down a size. Yes, very.
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Oh, wow.
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I'm like very aware of my size right now, which I never.
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Oh, that's upset.
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He, like asked because I don't know, I got like these pants and I was like, oh, I like how these fit. Like, this is my size. This is my size. And then I got like another pair of pants because these are like a little bit loose. So I was like, maybe I could get the next size down. And yeah, they fit.
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I obviously don't love wearing shorts, but given the fact that we are like hard working women who podcast with our
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legs out full Body podcast.
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I can't really wear short. I wouldn't like. I'm just not in a position I think at my most fit. I, like, twice wore shorts on the podcast. It's just crazy to wear shorts on the podcast. So it really limits what I can wear over the summer. Try being an influencer for a day. Try it.
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Yeah. Like, I couldn't sit like this in shorts.
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Correct. I literally wouldn't dream of it.
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So, yeah, it's not as short, but like, for the other days, on the other half of the day.
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So we have stories that are the stories. Nothing in a positive or negative way.
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Neither. They're the stories. Like, some days are obviously a cup runneth over other days, this drought.
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We have Kylie for Duncan.
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Oh, you know what? We don't. I almost did it yesterday.
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Let me just briefly talk about it before we dive in.
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No, no, I'll add it.
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Like, we're here now. Like, it's. It's on the tip of my tongue.
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Yeah.
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I just want to say, like, if
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I don't have anything nice to say, I don't want to say anything at all.
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I hated it so much for so many reasons. One, like, I'm so over going back into the archives and like, King Kylie era, it's like you've done so much. You're iconic now. You're more iconic now. So, like, it's giving has been. Which she's not. Two, like, she's very much in her brand deal era. Like, I feel as though, you know, remember there was a rumor that the Kardashians were broke, like, a couple years ago. It is giving broke. Like, I just want to say because, like, Billy, the better thing I didn't scoff at because when you're a billionaire, you can still do brand deals, but they have to be, like, worth it.
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I think she, I don't know, in the last year or so, like, has become so popular, so respected. So she's always been, like, very cool, but, you know, in reality circles, whatever. And like, I don't know, now it's with Timothy and just everything. And she is just seriously the most influential person on the planet. The coolest person on planet. And I think, like, she is now getting paid so much money for these things. You know, back in the day, used to do like, the gummies and like sugar bear hair. And still that was probably like a million dollars a post. And she was, like, making money that way. But I think the money is so good for brand deals for her right now because every brand, any Brand on the flag, on the Pulse would be so lucky to have her as their spokesperson.
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It's true. The creative for this campaign, like, I just couldn't have hated more.
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I agree.
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And also, like, I actually think, first of all, she's so pretty. She can't look bad. But I think actually, like, the glam here, like, she looked. That was not good glam.
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No, it wasn't. The. The pink hair washed her out and the outfit wasn't good. And it's just.
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She goes back and does a King Kylie. She always looks pretty, so she, like, still looks cool. But this was, like, bad.
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The overall aesthetic was, like, nodded and it was like. It was a. I feel like at the time, King Kylie was awesome. But if you like, we did it now, it would be like, oh, actually,
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it was the trend of the time now. Now it gives Chugi.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. I don't know. I didn't like it.
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I didn't like it either. But you know what? I'm sure the paycheck was how much did we. She was like, I'll wear whatever wig you want.
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For Meta, we thought what she got,
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like, I think for meta, she got $100 million. I think for Duncan, she got 2010.
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Okay, 15.
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So I don't think she's work. I just think the money's really good right now. And not every Kardashian can say that. Not every celebrity can say that. I feel like Mariska, she's going through.
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Well, maybe, you know, your currency comes and goes. Like, you're hot. You're not. So you do have to cash in when you're hot. I just thought this one missed the mark.
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Yeah. In terms of the creative.
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Yeah.
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Like, which I don't think she had a hand in.
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No. But, like, she has so much personality. People, like, don't really know that about her. And that's why I think people liked her so much on therapists, like, when she's just herself, which we never really see, hashtag, who is the real Kylie. And I know it would have been a good opportunity just to show off more of her personality. We're just like, old thing again.
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No. And like, her current look, which is like, that's the reason why she's so popular right now.
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Her look is like, she sets the trends.
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Yeah. Like, just like, cool girl having a Duncan. Cool girls drink Duncan.
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Yeah.
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There you go.
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There's. There you have it.
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There you go.
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Yeah.
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You should have called me and you didn't.
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And that's something you'll have to live with.
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Yeah. Now, without further ado to do, it is time for the Fast 5 stories that you to do need to know.
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Our first story, Margaret Qualley and Jack Antonoff separate after three years as sources say their marriage has been rocky. So after the show yesterday, TMZ reported that they are splitting. Now a source is adding that the pair's relationship has been rocky. A second insider adds that the two of them are figuring things out. He is currently in the midst of his tour while she is in pre production for a horror movie. V.
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In case you aren't watching, I'm smiling. I love this. Even though he, like, then left the house yesterday, like, still wearing his wedding ring. Like, very manipulative energy. I love this. Can't stress enough how much I love it. Does make me feel that the relationship between Margaret Quayle and Taylor is over.
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Yeah.
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I don't know if they were ever that tight.
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Yeah. Which is fine.
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I mean, friends, I liked it, but, like, it's fine. It's completely fine. And I just really want what's best for Margaret. Like, I'm ready for. I think, like I said yesterday, Margaret is very much on track to becoming this generation's, like, big actress. And a part of that, like, is dating and getting married to other celebrities. And it's like Jack Antonoff was very much a stepping stone. Thank you for your time and your dedication to this cause, but your time is up and I'm looking Forward to seeing who she dates next. Honestly, it's not dates.
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So it's ma. I think it's crazy they got married. I know. And I can't believe they didn't have to get married. They could have been together this whole time.
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It's been three years. Do you remember their wedding? They got married in New Jersey shore and it became like a whole thing about. Because Taylor was there and like, people found out and like they literally, the public ruined their wedding. So people think Margaret Qualy hates Taylor because of that? Because there are theories that Margaret and Taylor didn't get along. Especially. I saw a clip on Twitter this morning. Two separate interviews where Margaret Qualley was asked about. One time she was asked about Lana Del Rey. Lana Del Rey has a song called Margaret and it was like a gift that she gave to Jack and so GMA or something. Like asked Margaret about it and she was just like gushing. She was like, I couldn't believe it. It's like so sweet. I love Lana. She makes the most amazing music with Jack. Like, the two of them are just magic. Like, it was so complimentary. And then like they asked her about Taylor and at the time, I think people were just like. I think we probably talked about it on the toast.
A
Yeah, I remember Margaret hates Taylor.
B
It's like, well, no, it's just fucking annoying when someone's trying to promote a movie and every question is about Taylor Swift.
A
But even that, anything that you say when asked about her is going to be like, dissected. It's like Donna Kelsey who wound up coming off rude.
B
When someone comes off rude about Taylor, I almost always.
A
They just sort of like, don't want to fe the fire. Plus, it was about T loas and Jack didn't work on T loas. So that was like. What are you supposed to say?
B
Yeah. So when you just compare the clips side by side, it is giving like, beef. Although I don't think so.
A
Also, did you see that it appears as though Lana wasn't at the wedding?
B
Yes. And Lana was, you know, in her Instagram comments, talking to people, like, very much confirming, like, I wasn't there.
A
Yeah.
B
There's weird between Lana and remember when there's so many weird things.
A
No, but they're like best friends. She brought her on stage for the acceptance speech, which was weird. Yeah, but like, that speaks to a level of closeness and I just want
B
to say like a collab with Lana and not being able to hear Lana. So she released another version that's like more Lana.
A
Like, that's weird at a certain point like all of these friendships, like it's confounding, you know.
B
Yes. It was just a page headline that Taylor Swift has five goddaughters and none of them were there because so many
A
close friendships and like so many on the rocks, so many cut off completely. Like it's very strange. I do think now that she's like married, you know, that's where you pour in to and I think like it's not going to be like the friendship roller coaster anymore. But Lana and Blake and Carly like Jamie King her closest, closest friends in the Kelly.
B
Kelly Jamie King. She's got daughter Jamie King. But Jamie King has her own issues.
A
But like I agree with you and now I've stated five people and I haven't even racked my brain yet of
B
people think about the groguing era Hailee Steinfeld, Zentana.
A
But, but I'm talking about resist close friendships sisters.
B
So while yes I agree with you, if this was somebody I knew from high school I would be like, well, you're the problem. Like duh. I think that maintaining a friendship with someone who is like the most famous person in the world, whether you're the friend or your tailor, like I think it is going to be more ripe for like breakups and stuff. So yes, I agree that more often than not like when somebody has so many friendships that like end you start to wonder like, you know, well, maybe are you the problem? But these are not typical situations.
A
Like, but I'm not, but I'm not even talking about the casual friendships.
B
You're talking about the deep sister and
A
go, yeah, like you don't get that many friends like that in your life of like best friends sisters. So like Blake is one of those people.
B
Okay. But the Blake case, like that's extended. That's a crazy circumstance I can accept.
A
Okay, you can lose a couple of sisters along the way. Yeah, but like five plus Carly was a sister.
B
Yeah but like the Scooter Braun thing,
A
like these crazy things happened to Lana was a sister.
B
Molana was not a sister.
A
But like she acceptance. I would only bring my sister.
B
I thought it was weird that Taylor did that but I didn't like it at the time.
A
Kelly date for the three minutes.
B
Yeah, for sure. But it was a three minute friendship.
A
It was not.
B
And some friendships burn fast and bright.
A
And you used to argue that it was a longer friendship. I thought they became friends when my you when Miles did that video. But you said they'd been friends for a long time.
B
Did I say that.
A
Yeah, I don't think that I did. That's how I remember it. You convinced me. They were friends for a long time, and then they. They became, like, super close. But for a person who doesn't go to award shows or do red carpets. Did I go with Kelly? That's a sister.
B
But, like, I don't think that, so why would I say it? But I believe you.
A
I remember, like, the way I thought about their friendship was, like, they met on the set of.
B
Well, no, they had to set. He. Miles got that gig because of Kelly. Yeah. Either she was a fan or they were friends. I don't remember exactly.
A
You said it goes back.
B
Did I? Let me ask. Chat really quickly. Hold on.
A
What did Claudia say?
B
No, no, I'm just gonna ask, like, when did Taylor Swift's friendship with Kelly Teller begin? Even though, like, chat knows nothing.
A
Yeah, we know more than chat.
B
Maybe they can reference.
A
Chad is referencing the Toast when he
B
says we are a source. He's searching the web. AKA listening to episodes of the Toast. 2018, they met around the Reputation Stadium tour. Kelly posted her first photo with Taylor backstage. So they sh. It shows that they were at least friendly. 2019. Taylor sent them a note and flowers for their wedding. 2021. That's when they became much closer. I bet you think about me.
A
Yeah.
B
23, 24, regularly seen together backstage at the Arrow Store. All right, so I'm not, like, totally wrong, but I guess, like, they knew each other in 2018.
A
Yeah, but everybody went backstage at Rep. Yeah. It wasn't like the Eras tour. There was a rep room.
B
Yeah. She wasn't a sister, but. Yeah. No, it's another friendship. It doesn't make her look good. I completely agree. Then you look like Jamie King, and it's like. Well, I would argue Jamie King's probably the problem in that one, you know?
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fine.
B
Yeah.
A
Because isn't that when your friends need you?
B
Yeah, but, like, at a certain point,
A
like, if you're like, you can't help.
B
You can't. And you're, like, enabling just by continuing to be that person's friend.
A
No, no, I understand.
B
You know, I hear you. And a lot of people are saying that, like, it is a lot of friends.
A
It's a lot of just, like, roller coasters of friendships.
B
Yeah, but then there are. But she's also, like, known for being, like, insanely loyal to both friends and, like, colleagues. Like, you know, of course, Abigail, but, like, people. She works with people in her band.
A
And then Selena, they're all the ones of sisters who have gone there.
B
Sisters who are still there.
A
Ha. Selena Gomez. Gigi.
B
Yeah. Ashley.
A
Ashley.
B
Luckiest girl alive.
A
Yeah.
B
Yeah. No, you're like, I hear you, but I think that, like, it's hard to maintain friendships, period. But when you like the craziest things going on in your life, like, like the Scooter Brawn Masters recording, like Kim and Kanye. Yeah. That doesn't like, make a breeding ground for like, amazing friendships. And like, people in Hollywood are so, like, fickle and finicky and it's like the second you become unpopular, like, everyone drops you. Like, yeah, like that's gonna happen.
A
But all of these things are. Post that.
B
Of course.
A
Every person that I've mentioned.
B
Yeah.
A
Made it through that point.
B
I just don't think it's like an automatic, like, red flag. I don't.
A
No. But it's curious Lana now, like.
B
Yeah, I would love to know Lana,
A
you know, and she knows how to act. She's a big star. She's been around Lana. So anyways, next story.
B
Just want to say congratulations to Margaret Quaily and I'm like, looking forward to this next chapter for you.
A
To all that's waiting for.
B
Yeah, right.
A
FIFA final Fifi Fiddly IO.
B
I thought that's what you're going to say.
A
Final halftime show. The World cup final halftime show has been announced and it's going to be a big musical production performance. We will be seeing Justin Bieber, Shakira, Madonna, bts, as well as Afrobeat star Burna Boy, Venezuelan conductor Gustavo Dudamel, and the PS22 choir for. From the elementary school in New York.
B
That's so cute.
A
Featuring Coldplay. And it's with the choir. Yes. And Coldplay will curate the 11 minute halftime show. So I guess they're like producers. Yeah.
B
That's cool. I didn't know that, like, this was a thing that I was waiting to like, find out before it was gonna Super Bowl. So cool. I guess it has to represent like a global range of artists. It's a global affair. Representing America, we have Coldplay and Justin Bieber. That feels right.
A
Well, Canada. Justin Bieber.
B
Oh, right. My bad.
A
And is Chris Martin from here? I don't think he is.
B
Oh, really? Is he British?
A
He has an accent, right?
B
Whoa, whoa.
A
I mean, Coldplay is so global.
B
Yeah. No, everyone they chose, like, really, I'm one thing if there's a global event, Shakira's gonna be there.
A
They're like, he's English, he's British.
B
Okay. So maybe they are a British band. So look at us global. So who's the American?
A
Is there one?
B
It's like, we're literally hosting, like, wait, that's so funny.
A
Oh, no, not just Madonna. English.
B
English. And you guys, don't. You guys are not ready for what I have to say about Madonna. I'm not gonna say it because not only doesn't. Because I respect my elders.
A
It doesn't need to be global. It also needs to be ageless. Like, you gotta have someone for older people in there.
B
I didn't say anything about Madonna's age. You did.
A
No, but, like, I just.
B
Like, I'm so. Like, I don't want to talk about Madonna because, like, I don't want to offend our. Our gay listeners. But, like, I'm so over her.
A
But I think in this context, she's right for it. Whatever. I'm not. This sounds great. I'm actually not seeing an American.
B
Okay, well, looks like we'll have to get the guy who sings. And I'm proud to be an American where at least I know I'm free. Get him in there.
A
I wonder if, like, people are, like, in an a tizzy about this. Yeah.
B
I mean, we are, like, the host.
A
It's a little crazy.
B
Yeah.
A
But it's like, all these people live in America, so I guess.
B
I know they cosplay as Americans, but
A
I guess that's, you know, that's the
B
American where they pay taxes.
A
Yeah.
B
Okay.
A
But I think this is going to be a great show.
B
We are a nation of immigrants, so. That's a beautiful story.
A
It is a beautiful story. BTS I love.
B
Of course.
A
And of course, Gustavo, I know you're.
B
You're excited about.
A
The chorus is American.
B
Oh, yeah. That's really cute.
A
Yeah.
B
I love a children's choir.
A
Yeah. I think this will be great. Now we're down to eight teams in the tournament, so I do feel like if you want to get involved, like, now is a good time. You didn't have to watch all that.
B
I'm rooting for Norway. The blonde guy with the ponytail who carries the birkins is my favorite player I'm rooting for. What are the teams?
A
Argentina.
B
Messi.
A
Messi. Which I. I'm going to.
B
That's a good, like, exciting story.
A
Yeah. France, England.
B
You know, the thing about me is I'm done with France.
A
You're done?
B
Yeah.
A
What did they do now?
B
I mean, it's more like what they
A
didn't do to the Jews.
B
To the Nazis. They sort of rolled over and took it like, one thing about me, I don't fuck with the French.
A
Yeah. England, I'm down.
B
Like, obviously, I'm a monarchist. I think their food is disgusting. But overall, I'm not upset with them.
A
Spain, love.
B
So Cheetah Girls. Cheetah Sisters. Barcelona.
A
But here's who you're rooting for.
B
Who?
A
Morocco.
B
Oh, actually, yeah, I am.
A
Yeah.
B
I am rooting for Morocco because, like, I, like, I'm. I'm just a very prideful person. Like, I have a lot of national pride. So.
A
Yeah. From the Moroccan Jews, but were they not expelled?
B
No. Moroccan Jews still live there.
A
They do. Okay, good, good. Belgium.
B
Not the vibe. Sorry. Like, you know, I can sense these things, like, when it's their time, and I just feel like Belgium's actually going to be the next team to lose. Just a feeling.
A
Norway and Switzerland.
B
Let me tell you that. Like, Norway. Norway. I love that guy.
A
So who do you think will take it all?
B
Okay, here's my prediction. Norway, the. Morocco. No, that's like me making the whole thing about myself. Hold on. Norway versus Argentina. That's what it's going to be.
A
I think it's going to be Argentina versus Spain.
B
I would love that.
A
I just feel like that for no reason.
B
I just wish I got more into it. It's really not compelling me, like, at all. You know, I'd like.
A
But I'm like, I'm happy for everyone because everyone seems so, like, into it. People are going to the games and I like watching everybody else having a good time. You?
B
Yeah, I just, like, I wanted that for myself.
A
It didn't happen.
B
That's okay.
A
Maybe in the next four years.
B
Is it every four years? It is every year.
A
I don't think it's every year. That's a lot. I don't. I think it might be every four years. When was the last one?
B
How frequently is the World Cup? The last one was in Qatar, remember?
A
Yeah. And there was, like, drama with the six years ago. That was years ago.
B
Was it like two. I want to say two years ago. Every four years. Cool.
A
They can't do all these.
B
Except 1942 and 1946 were both canceled because of World War II. Fun fact.
A
Classic 2026.
B
Oh, guess where it is next year. It's never so interesting. In 2018, it was just Russia. In 2022 was just Qatar. 2026, U.S. canada and Mexico.
A
North America.
B
Yeah, but why is it, like, countries and then we have continent and then 2030, Morocco, Portugal and Spain as the hosts. Also matches taking place in Uruguay, Argentina
A
And Paraguay, they have to. I guess they had to fly for this one, too.
B
I mean, I think it's a lot for, like, one country to take on.
A
No, but I also think it's not for the players. Like, oh, we're in Paraguay today.
B
Yeah. Like, having to play a match and then, like, fly to Uruguay. It's not good for circulation.
A
No, no, they should keep it, I guess. More people get to go.
B
It's exciting. Soccer. So big, like.
A
Yeah.
B
It's crazy how much, like, soccer means to people when it actually means nothing to us.
A
It means something to us. Yeah.
B
We play travel soccer as little girls.
A
We, like, love soccer. Girls. We actually love soccer as much as you could.
B
Like, one thing about me, I had shin guards on and, like, my high socks, and I was, like, I was there.
A
You probably didn't have your shin guards on.
B
No, of course I had my shin guards on. One thing. That's what they teach you at soccer 101. Like, safety first.
A
Yeah, that's what they teach you. Are you ready for our next story?
B
Yeah.
A
Cheetah Girls 4 is set at Disney with Raven, Simone and original cast members returning.
B
Not all.
A
So the Cheetah Girls Next gen has officially been greenlit with original stars Raven, Simone, Adrienne Bailon returning as Galleria and Chanel, respectively, respectively, and Sabrina, and with a lot of respect, put on their name in addition to being a Brian.
B
Why doesn't she get, like, top billing? Top billing with the other two?
A
Because she's not as famous.
B
But they were all Cheetah Girls.
A
But, like, they wanted to know Raven and Adrian, who you know are coming.
B
The headline is that the fourth one is not coming. Keely.
A
Yeah. Like, Sabrina will make a special appearance as Dorinda. It's insane.
B
It's insane that her name is Dorinda. What are you doing here without Dorinda?
A
He's insane that her name was Dorinda, too.
B
I'm like, that scene. You know the one.
A
No, you're more of a Cheetah Girl than I am.
B
You don't mention the Cheetah Girls.
A
No, no, I do, but, like.
B
Like, I've seen it recently.
A
Like, the Cheetah Girls just imprinted on you more.
B
I mean, it was four girls who were, like, sisters who, like, sang. That was us growing up.
A
I know, but, like, Cheetah Girls, Cheetah Sisters. It's just, you know, think and not everything can, like, impact you and shape you. And I loved Cheetah just like I loved other stuff growing up. Like Lizzie McGuire, but, like, it didn't.
B
I was imprinted by the Cheetah Girls. Absolutely. I really thought I was fucking Galleria.
A
Like, there wasn't enough left in my imprint after Hannah walked away.
B
I think, and correct me if I'm wrong, isn't the fourth Cheetah Girl who's not in here? Isn't she dating the guy from Boy Meets World? And she's involved in that big scandal, Matthew Lawrence with Cheryl Burke from Dancing with the Stars. Remember?
A
I don't think so.
B
And Cheryl makes, like, all this crazy content on Tik Tok about, like, her ex.
A
No.
B
And he's dating the Cheetah Girl. I think I'm right.
A
He's not dating her.
B
Oh, no, wait, you're right.
A
Chili is Chili.
B
Because they're both in. But they're both from the band 3LW.
A
Maybe that goes deeper.
B
Or TLC. I can't remember.
A
That goes deep.
B
No, you're right.
A
You're right. And Lynn Whitfield and Lori Alter are set to replies their roles as Dorothea and Juanita.
B
Oh, my God, you're kidding. The moms. Like, that's huge. Like, I'm not. I'm not investing you, me and my, like, fanfic, Reddit, Cheetah sistas. Like, we're freaking about this.
A
Just know if you have a character in your show named Juanita, it will be a success.
B
We are watching.
A
It's true. So joining the beloved Disney franchise is Sophia Bush.
B
I saw this video. Oh, what?
A
Sophia Bush in the role of Jennifer.
B
What?
A
With Leia Sava Jeffries as Galleria's daughter Faith. Carmen Sanchez is Chanel's sister. Dior.
B
Yeah.
A
Kayleen Chang.
B
Funny. Her name is Dior.
A
Kayleen Chang as Ruby, and Sophie Lennon as Brooklyn.
B
So I saw, like, the new gen. I saw Disney plus put out a video of them, like, dancing with, like, Juicy Couture sweatshirts that say Cheetah Girls on the back. And it was like, very much, you know, new gen. Cheetah Sisters. Not the same. But that's definitely what the youth needs, is the Cheetah Girls. Cheetah Sisters. Because the message of love and unity and just sort of sister coming as you are.
A
Yeah.
B
And of course, sisterhood.
A
So here's the log line. The story picks up when the Cheetah Girls, Galleria and Chanel, alongside Galleria's daughter and her three friends, travel to Africa to volunteer at a wildlife sanctuary. Along the way, these 14 girls test their friendship, find their voice, and discover the true Cheetah spirit as they save the preserve and ultimately take the stage as the new Cheetah Girls.
B
Oh. Oh, I see what they're doing. I was like, why are they going to the wildlife reserve?
A
Because they're the Cheetah Girls and they're gonna save the reserve.
B
I love it. Inspired, actually. Really? I love it. I love it.
A
The production will begin later this month in South Africa.
B
It better.
A
Yeah. Hopefully it fares better than Lizzie McGuire. Yeah.
B
I didn't know if, like, Raven was, like, where she left her relationship with Disney, you know?
A
Yeah.
B
She did come back. She did Raven's Home. And I think that, like, ended poorly. Annelise Vanderpoel is always on TikTok, like, alluding to it. We're like, girl, just tell us. So I don't know. And then she, like, went on the View. She's had, like, kind of a weird post Disney career.
A
Yeah.
B
But I guess she's all good with the Disney execs. Her and. Bye. Bye.
A
Or she is all good.
B
That's good to hear.
A
Yeah.
B
You love to hear it.
A
I think it's. I mean, you know how I feel about reboots, but living in reboot world, like, this is.
B
Right. There are worse ones.
A
Yeah.
B
It's been the worst reboot. So many choose from.
A
Yeah. Well, whatever has been the worst reboot. I wouldn't have seen it.
B
Oh, I know what it was.
A
Snow White.
B
Gossip Girl.
A
Yeah. And I did get to. Because I can't say something was the worst reboot if I didn't watch it. But it's like, if I knew it was the worst reboot, I wouldn't have watched it. But I actually did watch that piece of Garbage.
B
The amount of press money spent on that one season of Garbage was insane.
A
Insane. They spent so much and did so much that it's actually a shock that they canceled. Admitted that it was a failure.
B
No, not even admitted. Like, give it a go. Maybe try one more.
A
No, but, like. But when you just are so full. Seam it head on. Something like, you just keep going. Fake it till you make it.
B
Yeah.
A
Don't let us know that everything you did was a failure. They worked with every influencer.
B
Yeah.
A
They did every collab. It was the.
B
I think they actually filmed at the Met gala.
A
It was the biggest thing. You forget about it now. It's sort of like covet. It was the biggest thing.
B
Speaking of things you forgot about. So Ben is going to the Bon Jovi concert, and he was, like, listening to Bon Jovi last night, and you know what song I was reminded of? Tell me you remember the iconic collab between Bon Jovi and Jennifer Nettles. Do you know what I'm talking about? And it was like a Habitat for Humanity, like, sponsorship. Who says you can't go home? You don't know that song.
A
I do know that song. Is that their song?
B
That's a Bon Jovi Jennifer Nettles club original song. I know. And you know, I used to listen to that song all the time when I was a kid. And then like yesterday I started listening to it and I was watching the music video and it was like, it's a Habitat for Humanity. Like, I don't know, it's like a feel the song was connected to, like a philanthropic effort, I guess, all about, like building homes. Because the song is called who said you can't go home? That song is so good. I love just love that song.
A
Good song.
B
Yeah.
A
Are you ready for our next story?
B
What number?
A
Three.
B
Oh, are you sure?
A
Positive.
B
Four. Okay.
A
Not positive. Oh, yeah.
B
Four.
A
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
B
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A
Thank you, Tortur.
B
Oh, you're welcome. Jordan. Teresa and her daughters. I wonder how Teresa's daughters are doing. There's actually a lot going on over there.
A
I saw a video of like Melania.
B
I saw that too.
A
And Antonia Gorga. Oh, driving.
B
Did you see that? Gabriella was the daughter who allegedly called the police on Melania. She's not like those other sisters.
A
No. She's not here for the drama.
B
No.
A
Our next story, Emmy nominations came out today. Here. It's the full list of nominees.
B
Okay.
A
A lot of these are, like, familiar.
B
You see Summer House was nominated for an Emmy.
A
Yeah, I did. And they fired Wes and Amanda. You know, they gave them an Emmy.
B
It's true.
A
Outstanding drama series, the diplomat, the Gilded age, A knight of the seven kingdoms, paradise, the pit, Slow horses, your friends and neighbors.
B
I watched two of the shows. The pit, your Friends and neighbors. Your Friends and Neighbors was really good.
A
So I can only. Would you say was outstanding?
B
Yeah, I would say of the two shows that I watched there would give it to your friends and Neighbors, honestly.
A
Outstanding comedy series. Your Friends and Neighbors is also like comedy, though.
B
No, it's not.
A
Yeah, it is.
B
Drama.
A
He's like silly.
B
It has like a clever narrator. But overall, it's a drama series.
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Outstanding comedy. Abbott elementary, the bear. Margo's got money troubles. Nobody wants this. Only Murder in the building. Shrinking Widows Bay, Hacks.
B
Hacks is going to win. It's like the last season and they've swept the category.
A
Always the last season.
B
No, it's over. And they swept the category like every year since.
A
So it's always the last category. Outstanding limited series. All her fault, I think. All her fault. You and I didn't see it, but everybody was obsessed with it.
B
It was really good. I should not have watched it postpartum, but it was really good.
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The Beast in Me, Beef, DTF St. Louis and Love Story.
B
Love Story wasn't good. Like, I liked the conversations that we all had and like the genre. It started, you know, everyone's dressing like Carolyn Bassett, very sleek. But the show was bad. I actually don't even know if I watched the last episode because it was so. I did. I did, but it was bad.
A
Yeah, Agreed. All her fault, for sure. That was the show of the year.
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And Sarah Snook, I know she got nominated for her role in that. Like, she was chilling.
A
Yeah.
B
She's an amazing actress.
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Outstanding lead actor in a drama series. Sterling K. Brown, Paradise. Gary Oldman, Slow Horses Mar. Mark Ruffalo, Task. Rufus Sewell, the Diplomat. Noah Weil, the Pit.
B
I only watched the Pit there. I didn't, like, finish this season and I wasn't even not enjoying it. It was just, like, not that compelling. It's like the same thing. Like, okay, you know, so I don't really. I don't have a horse in this race.
A
Yeah. Outstanding lead actress in a drama series. Carrie Coon, Gilded Age, Chase, Infinity, the Testaments, Keri Russell, the Diplomat, Rhea, Steven Seahorn, Pluribus and Zendaya Euphoria.
B
Well, I think that our show sponsor, Hulu the Testaments, should win.
A
I agree. I think people are surprised. For Euphoria, only Zendaya and Colman Domingo got nominated. It.
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I mean, I didn't watch. I only watch clips on. But it was very much like Cassie's season.
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Yeah.
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And.
A
And based on.
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It's a huge snub.
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It is a snub because also based on the clips, not only was it her season, like, in her story, primarily, like, her acting was amazing. There were so many conversations about, like, her lack of Botox and just, like, her ability to emote. And like, everyone was talking about the show, they were talking about her. Whether or not Zendaya, like, had a large role in it, I wouldn't know. But people weren't talking about it very much.
B
Yeah, no, it's. This is a huge snub.
A
Like, for real. Yeah. Yeah. Outstanding supporting actor in a drama. I just want to say, go back.
B
I think Carrie Coon is going to. In.
A
Okay.
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People are obsessed with the Gilded Age. I'm, like, annoyed that I watched the first season, didn't like it. Gave up in the second season because, like, it was not getting better. I think it gets so good. I just don't know if I have the energy to sit because I would have to rewatch from the beginning. And like, when a show has A bad first or. Or second season. Like, it's just unreasonable for you to ask me to get through that just because you say it gets good.
A
No, I want to watch it again. I'm not starting the first season. I'll start from season two, episode one.
B
Stassi loves it. She says it's the best show.
A
Also, Sassy loves Outlander, and I did not like Outlander, and I watched well into the second season. It just wasn't for me. You know what I want to watch based on clips I've seen based on gender. Call the Midwife.
B
I don't know.
A
I see all of these clips that are, like, synopses of episodes. It's like, you know, early 1900s. They're like midwives in.
B
Oh, that's England.
A
And it's like a health, you know, drama. Women's health. And they, like, have all these mysterious cases.
B
Yeah, but I just feel like back in the day, like, women were constantly dying in childbirth. So, like, I feel like.
A
Oh, that's, like, sad, but it's like Downton vibes.
B
Yeah, no, I get it.
A
I think I would like it.
B
I just feel like, like, I'm like, a woman would die every episode, if it's being accurate.
A
No, no, but it's like, it's a bunch of things. And I'm sure we also, you know, learn about the midwives lives, Right, of course.
B
Like, how did they grow up?
A
Yeah. I'm just gonna skip around a little bit.
B
And this is the award show that Mariska's hosting, right?
A
Yes, it is.
B
Okay, so did SVU get up? She's definitely won an Emmy, right?
A
Like a daytime 1000%. Yeah. These are not the day times. Outstanding reality competition series, Dancing with the Stars, Paul's Drag Race, Survivor, Top Chef, and the Trainers. Also, Ariana Maddox has been nominated as host for Love Island.
B
Wow. Who else was in that category?
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In the category of outstanding host for a reality or reality competition program category are Rue Paul Charles.
B
I think I knew that. Actually, it's not. I think Paul's a middle name.
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Namesake. Charles.
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Rue Charles. All right.
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Paul can come.
B
He's on my list.
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RuPaul can come on. The insane, huge. Alan Cumming of Trainers. Alan Cumming of Traders.
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Yeah.
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Kristen Kish of Top Chef.
B
I actually feel like this is not the first time Ariana's been nominated, because I actually remember having this conversation last year being like, that's cool for her. But she's never gonna win. Only because it's such a stacked.
A
Yeah, well, Alan Cumming won the last Two years prior to that, it was
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RU for, like, a decade.
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Yeah. Kristen from Top Chef, who we know from Traders, and Jeff Probst of Survivor.
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Oh, yeah, Sorry, Ariana. Like, you're not gonna win, but that's actually awesome that you got nominated twice price.
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It is awesome. And it's sad she's not gonna win for letting us know. There's gonna be a massive dump.
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Massive diamond.
A
Yeah.
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Like, the thing is, like, it's actually crazy that you could do that job and get nominated for an Emmy. Do you know what I mean?
A
Yeah. She's actually doing a really good job at the job. I agree. I actually.
B
I have no complaints about her.
A
No, she, like, has really become the host. Like, she sort of, like, blends into the show. Sometimes when someone's a host and it's like a buzzy person who's not like, a professional host, it's just like they're like, personality. It's like, what are you doing there? But, like, she really, like, is seamless with the show.
B
Yeah. I think that for a while, it was a rotating door of influencers, celebrities, like. But I do think it's sort of her job in perpetuity now. She's very good at it.
A
Yeah, agreed.
B
Was that the fifth and final?
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No.
B
Oh, sorry.
A
The fifth and final. I know you would want to skip it and maybe you know that it's the fifth and final and that's why you tried to leapfrog over it.
B
What did the Romanovs do now?
A
Justin Baldoni and his wife Emily are breaking their silence on injustice and trauma drama. Two years after their Blake Lively dispute began, Justin and his wife put out an Instagram video, beginning by saying, we have not spoken publicly for the better part of the last two years. And it's not because we haven't had anything to say, of course, because Lord knows we have. But it just felt like every time we wanted to make a video like this, we wanted to speak. Something was telling us not to your lawyers. It just didn't feel like the right time. And we were talking about it and feeling into it and praying you don't need to explain.
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Like, we know why you couldn't. This massive lawsuit. Like, we're good. We're not dumb job.
A
But she said this feels like the
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moment she spoke a lot.
A
There's so much to say. She said, while they did not say
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much, they didn't say anything.
A
They did say that they have immense gratitude for so many people and so many things that have happened to them. Gratitude doesn't negate the injustice and the pain that we have also felt in the last few years. We've had to wrestle with so many things and try to understand so many things. Like, how could something like this even happen, let alone disguised as a fight for women? So much to unpack. She shared that she and Justin have experienced a lot of trauma that makes it difficult to speak openly. I. I agree. Like, I agree that if you're having
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a difficulty speaking openly, like, don't make a video statement.
A
Yeah, but they have to, like, come back.
B
But I also, I guess, like, I didn't realize, like, people are waiting for them to say something because, like, it's over. I didn't know that people were waiting, so I was like, oh, they released a video.
A
Yeah. But also, like, I imagine they're traumatized from this situation, whether or not, like, he was wrong. Who said? She said. He said. Like, he's been in a legal battle, fighting for his life beef for the last two years. Not really able to say anything about it. I don't think they have, like, massive streams of income.
B
No, I agree.
A
Outside, financially, this was about.
B
But they do have, like, big backers.
A
Yes, but, like, what, are they gonna pay your rent?
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Yeah, like, that's a back.
A
How long?
B
Yeah, right.
A
For how long?
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Someone was paying his legal bills, though, because.
A
Yeah, because also Wayfair.
B
Wayfair ensued.
A
But, like, you know, for his actual life, like, this is very destabilizing. You can't really speak on it because everything will be used against you. She. He said, we don't even know if this is the right thing to say. We just know we need to share something. Like, even Blake and Rya, and, like, even if she's wiped out, he's deadpool.
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No, of course they are. Financially, fine.
A
You know, she's. They have multiple businesses. They're investors.
B
Mint Mobile, of course, our favorite partners
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over at Mint Mobile, and they have us supporting Mint Mobile.
B
So you know that you're separate life.
A
You're separate, like, mailbox money.
B
Yeah, absolutely.
A
So this is, like, very scary for them.
B
Agreed.
A
And so they have to make an effort to come back to the public. Like, he has to get work. He has to.
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You know, I don't think he'll have a problem. He's been exonerated. Like, the public loves him. Him. She's the devil and he's the victim.
A
Like, I think they're both.
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I think people in the industry might not want to work with him just because he comes with a lot of, like. But he was always, like, directing his Own movies with his own production company. He'll be fine.
A
I don't think he'll be fine.
B
He has so many fans he has
A
to put in work.
B
If you have fans, you can pay your rent. Like, that's true. He has a lot of, like, die women who would, like, actually leave their husbands, kill themselves for him. Like, they love.
A
How can you monetize that, though?
B
Oh, you can have a convention, a group trip. Like, you can figure it out.
A
You can do a convention.
B
Yeah. Like, remember when Armie Hammer was, like, doing stuff like that? Like, there's stuff to be done if you have fans, especially female fans. Like, you are completely fine.
A
Well, first step is, like, coming back, making a video, getting back on social media, making people feel like you see them and they see you. And so that's what this was. And you know what? Like, I wasn't a fan before. I'm not a fan now. I'm not gonna stand in his way.
B
Yeah. I'm just gonna, like, not tell everyone what I really think, because nobody wants to hear.
A
No, tell us. You've come this far. Why you. The storm has passed.
B
No, no. It's like, I. I know people, like, tune in. They want to, like, enjoy the show. And, like, they get mad when I talk about Justin Baldoni. So, like.
A
But they keep coming back because I think they want to hear it.
B
Time will be on my side.
A
You think so? Still, I do.
B
What?
A
Is there something coming out, like, or is this.
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I can't speak on that matter. Legally, I'm involved in a lawsuit, so I just need to be involved in a lawsuit so I can say that. Like, guys, I can't.
A
Talking.
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Yeah. So let's dive into Dear Toasters, our weekly advice wagon. So every. These days, this is the last week, actually, because. Because Love Island's over. So next week we're back on Tuesdays, but we do a weekly advice segment.
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When does Love island end?
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This week I thought when? Please, this week. Right? Like, this week.
A
The show is a week long. So, like, what day of the week this week?
B
Maybe not. Okay, whatever. Dear Toasters are weekly by segment, where Jackie and I try to help you
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by Monday night, if you've ever been
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in a pickle, you know, at work or with your boyfriend or at home. And you thought, I wish Jackie and Claudia. Like, what would they do?
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I wish they would yell at me. Me.
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Well, write it to your toasters, and you just might be our next victim.
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Oh, I guess that's unburdening yourself when you have a guilty conscience and you want us to yell at you? That's unburdened.
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Dear toasters, gmail.com, that's the website you could write into or you can head over to our website, the toastpodcast.com. both methods equally. You have equal opportunity to get on the show. And they're both anonymous, so don't worry, we'll never blow up your spot. Our first is an update. So this is a deer toasters that we recently unearthed. So about eight years ago somebody wrote into us and was talking about how like her in laws are like very insistent on paying for her wedding and it's making her feel.
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This came from Dear Toasters throughout history.
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So this happened like, like literally eight years ago. She was like, it just feels like, you know, I'm, you know, we've been saving and like we can afford it and like we're really proud and like how do I tell my in laws to like fuck off? And Jackie and I went back and re listened to that episode and we were genuinely shocked and horrified to find out that like we supported this girl. We were like, yeah, just tell him to like fuck off. Like we were really just encouraging her.
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I totally understand and respect why you want to pay for your wedding and my. That's important to you. We were.
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And how it's offensive that they might not understand that we were supporting.
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Like tell your husband to tell them that they can take their money and shove it up theirs. Like worst advice ever.
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We were genuinely horrified at our own reactions. This is a whole series we did on Patreon last week. Just like revisiting old Dear Toaster submissions.
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I do think the advice was given in May 2020 and we were, we
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were obviously in a fragile state of
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mind to not say anything that would muddy or ruffle anything.
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So good to know that that girl is still a toaster. And she said as a Dear Toasters update, I am cracking up listening to the Dear Toasters patreon. And my submission about my in laws offering to pay for some of the wedding came back up. First of all, love you girls. And I'm happy to report that I do now own a house with my husband. So paying for our wedding didn't make us go broke. Now looking back, I too agree that I should have just taken the money and shut up. I think at the time being the first to get married on both sides just made everyone lose their marbles and take ownership in our wedding. So paying for it was our way of having the wedding that we wanted. That being said, I've learned Over the years and just having kids too, that if someone wants to offer a nice gift like that, just take it. Wise trust. Back in 2019, I agree. I was hard headed about the principle of things, but now if someone wants to take something off my plate, Money. Hashtag, let them love you girls and love the dtq.
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So we've all grown up together. That's really beautiful.
B
And you know what we were saying? Like, we're like, let them buy you a house, like, or like you.
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You let them pay for the wedding and then use the money you were going to spend and buy a house.
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So you got the house and the wedding and a lesson. That's beautiful.
A
Yeah. But that money's just sitting there.
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I think the best part of this is that this girl's still a toaster.
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Like, that's loyalty and that, like, she grew with us and like, even though we all were unwell at the time, thinking that that was like a normal, proud thing to do and a righteous thing to do, like, we've all come to our senses and that's just part of growing up.
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It's like you're gonna make decisions that you don't agree with. And thankfully this wasn't like a catastrophic one. All right, next up. Hey, Jackson. Claude, my husband came home from work the other night in a foul mood. He said it was an exhausting day. He works an hour from home as a water treatment supervisor. For context. I also work full time in an office, everything. My daughter's 5 and 3. And I did or said he just immediately respond with something rude. I brushed it off. We ate dinner. I suggested we take a family walk after. As we were leaving the house, I saw he had on his slippers, like, moccasin style. I asked him why he didn't put his sneakers on. His response to me was, why don't you shut your fat mouth in front of my daughters as well. He claimed later it wasn't actually calling me fat, but it's not that your mouth is fat, but it's not the first time he's insulted me with that line. I'm hurt because I'm self conscious about my appearance. What should I do? Well, the thing is, like, no one's more self conscious about their appearance. Like, I get it, but like, that really shouldn't be the focus of this saga. Like the fact that your husband said that to you in general, but also in front of your kids. Like, that's the bigger issue. I don't think you should.
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Whether or not you shouldn't be reading into it. Whether you're like that or not.
B
Like, that's not the problem. Like, imagine someone saying that to your daughters. They're gonna like, grow up thinking that that's a normal way to be spoken to.
A
No. Also like a parent, this seems like a sort of a usual occurrence that he like, comes home in a terrible mood. Like, ignore him, tell him to leave the house.
B
Yeah.
A
Like, you got to do what you got to do. You got to work with what you have. And like, he's in a horrible. You're not going to make him in a better mood. You literally gave him two beautiful children a beautiful night.
B
You want to go full time walk.
A
Like, it's just a beautiful night. And if he can't, there's nothing you can do to make him see, like, how beautiful his life is. But you should tell him, like, why don't you leave or you go upstairs or you watch tv. Like, I don't want to be around you and you shouldn't be around us because, like, this is a happy home and you're not a happy, happy person.
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Yeah. I just want you to be a little bit more focused on like your daughters in the situation more than yourself. Because like, obviously if somebody said fat mouth, like, I'm also like spiraling. Did you call me back? Did you call me that? But like, that's really not the issue here. The issue here is, like, he's very comfortable speaking so derogatorily to you in front of your kids. Like, that's just gonna inform how they see the world and the type of relationships that they get into. And it's like, that's not good.
A
So I would remove him from situations
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when, yeah, start, like having dinner and going for walks.
A
Fix, like, of course he needs anger management and he's a piece of like, obviously, of course.
B
High level. High level.
A
Obviously, obviously bigger issues here. But like, in terms of the day to day and you have your hands full. Like, remove you and the kids from those situations. Or remove him, like, if he doesn't want to go watch TV or leave the house or whatever. Like, you guys go out for dinner, you guys go for. Not him.
B
But also like, that is verbal abuse.
A
Like, yeah, of course.
B
Like, I really, like, I don't want to tell you to leave your man because, like, obviously there's two kids and like, there's like, your man's a piece of shit. Like that needs to be like, can't be stressed enough.
A
Stay away from him. Yeah.
B
Like, at this point, he's very much like a sperm donor. And like a roommate and like a rent payer.
A
Yeah.
B
A border. Yeah. He is your board, your ward. And like, thanks for the contribution. But like, you need to stay away from. And you also need to keep your girls away from him.
A
Stay away from your husband.
B
Yeah. That goes for all of you. Like some of the people you guys write into us about, like, that's your man, your man, your man. Stay away.
A
And when divorce is not an option.
B
Because it's not. We get a lot of shit for saying that, by the way.
A
Like.
B
Yeah, it's just. Sorry. Sometimes divorce is not an option. And that's. Oh.
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You either like, not the right time or you don't find, like, it just would be so messy, like so devastating emotional for you, for your children. Like, sometimes it's not the best option financially, custody wise.
B
Like there's.
A
Yeah, sometimes it's not the best option in that moment. And then what, three and five should go with him half the time.
B
Correct. With the abuser.
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No, stay away from your husband.
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All you guys. All right, third and final.
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Funny, but it's true.
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My boyfriend of two and a half years is just the best guest.
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Oh, we.
B
I'm 25, he's 27. We're talking of engagement. I could not be happier. But the one fault to him is that he. Peace to bed. We're in a phase of life of weddings nights out. We're both social drinkers. My boyfriend has been known since college to pee the bed whenever he gets too drunk. And now this has happened several times since we've been together. He gets embarrassed, so I normally just don't address it, but it's starting to get on my nerves. Like, I just don't, like, just don't drink so much.
A
Right, right.
B
Any advice on how you could bring this up to him without making it sound like I'm cutting him off or embarrassing him? Love ya.
A
So, yes, being in college, drinking a lot. Some people pee the bed every now and then. So I'm glad that at least, like, we understand why he's peeing the bed. Yeah. As someone who is also going through potty training a couple of hacks to make your life simpler, you know, put the pads under the sheet.
B
But see, this is a boyfriend, not
A
a dog and not a toddler. So here's the thing at 27 years old that you're getting that drunk that you pee the bed, you're drinking too much. Yeah.
B
And sometimes, like, maybe he just has a more sensitive bladder. But sometimes people don't have a drinking problem, but they get like, either really evil when they drink or like they pee the bed. That just. I'm sorry, like, you can't drink anymore. Some, like, doesn't mean you have a drinking problem or even that you're drinking too much, but you just don't react. You're drinking alcohol. You have to stop. Like, that's really it.
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Yeah. I would say at 25 and 27, it is the time to start turning down the dial on big drinking and
B
people who still drink as much at 27 as they did in college.
A
Nope.
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That's like a six year period where you really are supposed to be growing out of it. You can, of course, still party.
A
And like, there's a wild night bed. No.
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Multiple times. Yikes.
A
Yeah. So. And this.
B
I'm sorry, someone who's like actively peeing the bed is not someone who's also ready to get engaged. I just want to let you know not to be like, the bearer of bad news.
A
Yeah, no. You guys need to drink less. I know, we're super fun. Bless you.
B
I know, but like, drinking less is
A
always a good idea, unfortunately. So.
B
True.
A
It's always a good idea. And I'm not saying don't drink because if you have a glass of wine or two glasses of wine, you're not peeing the bed. No, no, no. You're peeing the bed because your bladder is full and you're too out of it to wake yourself up to. For the feeling.
B
It's. I. Let me tell you something also, as
A
someone who's potty training, we make sure we go pee pee before sleeping.
B
Before sleeping, and try not to like, drink your juicy before bed.
A
The thing is, is that we stopped drinking two hours before bed.
B
I feel like I have a healthy bar of, like, I still drink. And even before I became mom, like, I drank a lot. Like, I would black out a lot. Like, I was not shy. Let me tell you, I've never peed the bed, like, ever. Not once. Yeah, it's an insane level to get to. And I think it gets normalized in like frat culture, but it's really not normal. No.
A
And like, keep it in the fraternity. I'm not living in a frat house.
B
Right.
A
This is a grown up home and I'm changing the sheets multiple times a week.
B
It's so hard to change sheets. I'm sorry that you're dealing with that, like, genuinely. Godspeed.
A
Or you could like, make his half of the bed. Like, no blanket.
B
Tarp.
A
Tarp. Yeah. If that's how you want to live. Your life, you get the tarp.
B
It's up to you.
A
These are supposed to be the fun times of your relationship. So if he's sleeping, never get any sleep.
B
The tarp is so loud.
A
Yeah, well, and this is like cause for separate beds, but like you guys are dating.
B
Like wait, we're not even engaging. We're sleeping in separate beds. Just call it off now.
A
Yeah, if he won't like drink less, then he's just immature forever.
B
Frat boy.
A
It will continue to be an issue, unfortunately.
B
Nip it in the bud, sweetie. Nip it in the bud. That's our show. That's Dear Toasters, thank you to everybody who wrote in and thank you guys for listening.
A
Remember Pee pee before sleepy. Really?
B
Title thank you guys so much for listening to the Toast and Millennium morning show where we deliver the fast size stories 18 to every Monday through Friday and YouTube. So you're watching us on YouTube. Please feel free to subscribe and give this video a thumbs up. We're also available as podcast and we're podcasting found Spotify public video. I already cast box time all the places where we listen to podcasts. Find us the Toast. Leave a five star review about a beautiful, stunning and wickedly talented we are. Hope you guys have an amazing day and we will see you tomorrow.
A
Love ya. Bye.
Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry (Jackson Claude)
Episode Theme: Lighthearted lifestyle, pop culture, and listener advice, plus the signature “Fast 5” stories.
Tone: Fun, witty, conversational, with an undercurrent of honesty and relatability.
The episode kicks off with Jackie and Claudia reflecting on a well-rested, drama-free morning—thanks to a break from their usual Love Island viewing. They chat about personal life updates, the calmness of their current summer, infamous toxic Facebook groups, and cup-collecting culture. Transitioning into their signature "Fast 5" news stories, they give pop-culture commentary on a range of topics, including celebrity relationships, World Cup halftime show news, the return of the Cheetah Girls, and Emmy nominations. The episode closes with their “Dear Toasters” advice segment, which features both hilarious and deeply real listener dilemmas. The episode title comes from the closing (and apt) advice: “Pee pee before sleepy.”
Hindsight is 2020 – Wedding Finances Update (58:17–61:22)
Toxic Husband Behavior – Verbal Abuse in Front of Kids (61:22–64:46)
Boyfriend Bedwetter – When Do Party Habits Cross the Line? (64:50–68:06)
On Cup Culture:
“I just want myself a new Stanley. And I just want to say... if you're paying full price for a Stanley, you're dumb.” (07:45-07:47, Claudia)
On Toxic Facebook Groups:
“Oh, sure. More Facebook groups. Have we not done that? Have we not beat that horse dead?” (05:01-05:03, Both)
On Taylor Swift’s Friendships:
“If this was somebody I knew from high school I would be like, well, you're the problem... But these are not typical situations.” (25:03-25:20, Claudia)
On Bedwetting Boyfriend:
“As someone who's potty training, we make sure we go pee pee before sleeping.” (66:59, Jackie)
On Relationship Advice:
“Your man's a piece of shit. Like, that can’t be stressed enough. Stay away from him.” (63:46, Claudia)
On Naming the Episode:
“Remember, Pee pee before sleepy. Really. Title.” (68:12, Jackie)
For listeners new and old, this episode is a vibrant snapshot of The Toast’s trademark mix: relatable sister chat, Millennial nostalgia, pop culture hot takes, and unfiltered advice.