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Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast.
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It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host.
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It's your favorite show, the best five things you need to know. We'll start your day off.
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Swirly.
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It's the Toast.
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They sound amazing.
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Welcome back to the Toast and happy Thursday. Yeah, that's what happens when you're just not paying attention. It's Thursday.
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Yeah. When you're chugging along, you're keeping your head down, you're working hard. What you do in the dark shows in the light.
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When you keep your finger on the pulse, Thursday arrives.
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The pulse fingers you.
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That's really beautiful. Thank you, Jackie, for joining me here today. Hey, Jax, how you doing?
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I'm doing good. Happy to be in Cojourner's Corner. Speaking. Cojourner's.
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Don't you feel like it's cozy in Cojourner's Cozy Corner?
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It is. It's always cozy wherever we are. We bring the cozy.
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We bring the co. That's what we do. We bring the co. That's.
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We bring the coach to you.
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We bring the coach. We bring the coach to everyone. We bring the coach. Your favorite daughter and Jax.
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You know, you're sitting in the same seat that the great.
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The great big AJ Once. No.
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Yes.
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Justice.
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No aj I get them so confused. Yeah, you would think, like, the father's big justice.
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Right.
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The child.
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Yeah. No, pardon me. My bad.
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Yeah, he sat there.
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I kind of want to become a person who says pardon, you know? So whenever Dorit says it on the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, I'm like, that's so fudgeing. Classy.
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I had a friend in college who. Who would say pardon when she was confused. My friend Lisa. She's very elegant.
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Lisa. That's whose fake ID Margo used. Right? Sorry to put Lisa on blast, but she looked just like our sister Margo. So When Lisa turned 21, it was.
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She always.
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Did you use as a redhead?
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Oh, I was always getting some, like, backdoor my friend's S or some. A bunch of girls, like, hooked it up, and then I paid it forward as a redhead. Like, would you give it to. You know them? Well, I don't want to. Like, this is very illegal.
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Just whisper.
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Yes. Okay. And also.
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You did.
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Do you know who that is? She's much younger.
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Like, the crime is getting worse and worse.
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She's like. I don't want to say, but yeah, yeah, yeah.
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From high school. Yeah. Such a nice girl. Oh, that's fabulous.
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And it's like, I'm like, I Feel like I'm really doing my grave here. It's like I wasn't. I didn't even know those girls about.
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Oh, God.
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So much younger than me.
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Yeah, right.
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I think Margo facilitated.
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Right.
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But that's what you have to do as a redhead.
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That's so interesting because I didn't pass it on, and I was just sort of blessed. I feel like when it came time to get fake IDs in high school, oh, my God, everybody, like, hit the ground running. And for me, like, I had Olivia, and she was turning 21. What is she, like, three years older than me?
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Yeah.
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Just when I needed it. I had the most amazing fake id. Me and Olivia, like, our twins. And we really looked like twins in her license photo. I never once had an issue. It was kind of. That's why it's important to have siblings, you know? What did only children do?
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Are people still doing this? It's like, yeah, right.
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For sure. Well, there was actually, like, kind of a drama. So when I was in high school, I'm not gonna say the girl's name, but her brother worked at the Connecticut dmv. And it was like, we had real licenses. Like, it was insane. Yes. So the first batch fake IDs that we got, like, me and my friends.
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I don't think you should say this.
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I know we had the sickest, sickest fake IDs. Then of course, mine got confiscated one time. Like I don't know how, who, what, when, where, why, how. And like, it was devastating. Cuz, like, all my friends, like, we never had issues. Social life, literally, I couldn't activity. I couldn't participate in activities where balls fly at my nose. Like, everyone. Nobody had a problem. This was not, like, a thing. Our friend group, we just had these amazing licenses. And I lo. Like, I got mine confiscated. I forget. And it really was devastating. And I remember having to wait like, four or five months for Olivia to turn 21 in order for her to pass her permit onto me. And then once she did, I was able to bounce back, but, like, it was almost unrecoverable those four months, because all my friends, like, we were operating at a level like most teenagers were not operating on.
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Well, also, you were in college at nyu, so, like, in order to have a social life, like, you're going to bars and clubs, right?
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It wasn't like, you don't need a fake ID to get into a frat party. Like.
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Right.
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It was everything to me. And also, I remember on my first date with Ben, I. We went to A bar for drinks. And Ben was 21, but I was not. And I was like, oh, so stressful.
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Going on a date.
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I wasn't even stressed about, like, anything beyond, like, what if they turned me away? Will die of humiliation.
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I'm sorry. Like, that stress is so real.
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When I tell you the way I unclenched when, like, first of all, we walked into the bar, which I don't believe is any longer with us. Penny farthing. We walked into the bar, they checked the idea at the door, and then we, like, got a table. And it was never a question again. The way I was probably the most relaxed I'd ever been. I was so much tension building up.
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Be the real co journer.
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Yes. And I remember, you know, and just, like, things come back to it. I haven't thought about me and Ben's first date in so long, but it was my first date ever. And I was like, do I pay? Like, obviously I'm not that type of girl, but, like, I don't want to.
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Be, like, a schnurr, right?
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Being, like, expecting things. So you always have to do the reach. And I remember doing the reach. And I don't even think I had a wallet in my bag. I had, like, no money at the time. And I was like, do you want me to? And he was like, no. But, like, I really appreciate, like, you even, like, asking. It's nice when people ask. And I'm like, well, you know, and all the. You mean a nice. On all these dates? Yeah, well, all the dates that I've been on, I always offer. And I was like, that's not a.
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Flex, though, for Ben. For you.
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Well, let me tell you, Ben has been on three dates. Like, I don't know what the hell he was talking about.
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Like, I, I, I can't remember.
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If I were to be dating now.
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I wouldn't, I would not reach.
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No, but you're a young girl, and like, back in the day, I was like, yeah, I'm an independent woman.
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Girl boss. It was the spoiler alert.
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She wasn't an independent woman.
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It was the girl boss generation.
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Yes, but not enough to, like, actually pay. You know, just the flip.
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You want to be seen as the sort of woman who's down to pay. But now, no, you don't. Like, in hindsight. Like, no, you don't.
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In hindsight.
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No, I don't. You do whatever you want.
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Yeah. This is like a dear reader. This is a hot button issue. But, like, for me, I ain't moving. Ice queen. Yeah, you're Going to get that. Oh, they brought the check. It's for you. Like, I'm not even mincing words. Absolutely.
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It's like.
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Like, I'm, like, still eating. I'm like, you're eat that. You gotta pay for that. Like, I know. And actually, they brought the bill. Sorry. Can we actually get another side of fries?
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Another round?
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Bring back.
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Yeah, yeah.
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We didn't eat, actually, on our date.
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Oh, you just drank.
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We just drank. Yeah. And I remember. What did I get?
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I was like, you definitely got something, like, so weird.
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I need Cosmo. No. Or, like, a wine spritzer. Like, trying to be mature. Because, like, now I feel like Ben and I are very, like, similar. We live, like, Are similar ages. When you're in college, someone's three years older than you. So I. I feel like I thought out with my friends, like, what we can.
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We're gonna order wine.
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It was either a wine or, like, a vodka soda.
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Okay, that's fine.
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Yeah.
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That's not weird.
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What was your first date?
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My first date.
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My first period.
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My first date.
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Like, at a facility.
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I had a facility.
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She went to, like, a college where.
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It'S like, yeah, go to a date party.
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It's not a date.
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No, no, no, no, it's not. And on a date, like, in a college town, is it crazy, like, real, when you are able to, like, use your gate card?
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Your campus id, you mean?
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Yeah. You know what I mean.
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Like, if you. Like, at nyu, it was like, you can't use your N number on a date.
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No. It doesn't count as a date, so. And also, Colgate was not a big dating school, so I. I think I went on, like, I. I remember one date that I went on. I'm gonna say I went on two just because, like, in the whole time. In the whole time, because to.
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And where'd you go?
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Street cred. Like the Mexican restaurant in town. Remember that place?
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No, I don't think I'd ever been. Oh, yeah, we pretty much stayed on. We used the gate card when. When coachers came to town.
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Yeah.
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Some of my best memories of my whole life were visiting you at college. Yeah, I think I did it, like, four times. Once every year. Ben came the last time. And that's when, like, I knew we were getting married because it was the best time I ever had in my whole life. And then I feel like I visited you more than the other sisters. Right.
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Olivia visited a good amount. And then Margaret was so younger.
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Yeah. But I came every year. I stayed in that dorm with that girl. The first year.
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Yeah. And your friend.
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Yes, of course, Rachel. Of course. And then second year, where were you living?
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Second. Second year was still in a dorm.
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Oh.
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Oh, you came to the townhouse. No, no, no. That was junior spring. You came. It was like an 80s party. I remember a picture of us that we, like, took in my dorm. You were there.
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Okay, in your dorm. Who were you living with?
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I had a single in A three with Rebecca and Katie.
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I have, like, no memory of this.
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Yeah.
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But I look at pictures.
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I remember you came in the spring.
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And then third year, you were in the townhouse. I came in the townhouse. This would be my least favorite trip, if I'm just being honest with. Too cold.
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Not the one that you don't remember.
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No food. I didn't remember, obviously, because I had a blast.
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Sophomore year, I think you came Halloween, like, for parents weekend, and that's when you guys got caught in the snowstorm that was devastating.
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And then fourth, I came with the whole.
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The golf party.
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The golf party.
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And you also came in the spring for graduation. No. And you came to, like a random spring. It was so fun. Like, I did.
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I should have been coming every. I did a keg stand. I wore a blue sweater. In hindsight, I should have been coming every weekend. Like, I didn't know it at the time, but that was gonna be the most fun I ever had.
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Yeah.
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Oh, so fun.
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So much fun and a lot of. Oh.
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Oh. That's where I lost my fake id. No. Yes. Oh, my God. On the way back, Jackie went to Colgate, which is a five hour drive or like a 45 minute flight to Syracuse, and then an hour long drive. I. I remember I was flying home and I was like 17, so. And we grew up in the city. We both didn't have licenses. So when you were traveling, it was like, kind of annoying because they would always ask you for id. And I'm like, I actually don't own a form of identification. I wasn't bringing my passport, but we had passport cards. I didn't know. I never had one.
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That's always what I had.
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So I remember being like, they're like, you know, boarding pass, an id. I'm like, here's my morning pass. I literally don't own an id. And in hindsight, it was like, so crazy to travel without identification. But I was a minor, so I was like, no, I don't have an idea. I'm like, young and youthful.
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Sorry.
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And he was like, really? And they made it a whole thing. And it was like, I had done it a few times, and nobody ever made it a big deal. But this particular trip at this particular airport, like, people were being. And I was like, I don't have. Sorry. They're like, okay. So I go through security, and they take my purse, and they're going through my wallet, which is like, there's not a bomb in there. Get out of there. And they're like, my fake ID because it was so good. It was a Connecticut license with, like, a fake address and my picture. Like, so it was really legit. And they were like, I thought you said you didn't have an id. And I'm like, I got so nervous. I was like, well, it's fake. I didn't even try. And they were like, okay. They brought the female cop out. And then they also, like, ran other tests where I got, like. You know, they touched my boobs. Like, really, like, so unnecessary. I now know, in hindsight, they were trying to scare me and sufficiently scared. They wiped my hands. And I remember we got manicures in town. And they were like, you came back pest positive for explosives. I'm like, no, I got a manicure. Like, that's what it is. So they have this female cop. They, like, made a whole ordeal about it. They were never actually. I don't know if it's, like, illegal. Like, they couldn't prove whatever, but, like, they were just trying to scare me. And so.
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But, like, it is illegal to be traveling with a big idea. Like, I know you only see it through the lens of, like, oh, no, sir. I'm just trying to drink. Like, but you could also be right. Trafficking, smuggling. Yeah, of course. Could have been smuggled.
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So I was like, you know, I got a flight to catch. Like, what's going on here? And they were like, the female cop.
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I remember her like, it is a crime. It's kind. They didn't call the police.
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Yeah. I was more worried about, like, calling my mom and getting me in trouble. So she was like, listen, we're gonna let you go, and I'm just gonna trust that you're gonna tell your parents about this. And I said, I'm running to call them now. Thank you so much, ma'. Am. And I ran for my life. So even when I got my ID taken away, I was more so relieved that I didn't. So only, like, a month later was I really realizing how inconvenient it was. Up until that point, I was just grateful to, like, you know, not be.
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To have stayed out of trouble.
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Yeah. Yeah. And, like, it Definitely put a dent. I remember, like, on, like, how the weekend, you know.
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Yeah, yeah. No, it's a crazy game that you play, but I guess, like, yeah, people must still be doing it. I wonder what the kids do these days. I feel like you still take from an elder and you cross your fingers.
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Yes. Shout out. Like, that's why Olivia is such a real one. I don't know what Olivia did.
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Like, so glad to no longer have that on my mind.
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Oh, man, I remember what a relief it was to turn 21. Yeah. Because it's. It was kind of like the thrill of it is over. Like, it was just at that point inconvenient.
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Yeah.
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So that's just like sort of our illegal background.
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Yeah. We've admitted to a lot here today. All of it fictional. We made it up because we like to embellish stories for the art cast. This is art. We can be interesting for our listeners.
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This is art.
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We just make up. Yeah. That was fun.
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Yeah.
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Trip down memory lane with my swirl.
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If I could buy a house on memory lane I wouldn't have to wonder if you miss me, you know? So I go through, like, eras where I'm hyper fixating him. Okay. But until I see that trend made.
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It to real, we should do when Claudia sings on the toast. Like, whenever you're singing, I'm always Jackie. What's it. What? I'm in my flow state.
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Yeah, yeah, let's write that down.
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I'm always in my flow statement. No, it's not.
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You're not in your flow state. You enter a flow state. So.
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Come on, baby, turn the light.
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That's Friends and Neighbors, right?
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Yeah.
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New trailer for Friends and Neighbors Just dropped. I saw James Marston.
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I saw Brian Peck. Like, I love James.
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God, why did you have to ruin it?
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I know. Because it's like, it's ruined for me. I can't let you go on.
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James Marston wrote a.
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A letter in defense of Brian Peck when, like, Drake Bell was in court with him. And he's just like, one of the names and just in congress with the James that I know.
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And, like, Courtney Collins would never, by.
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The way, James, like, knew him. And I'm sure there's a lot of other context I'm. I'll try and give a little bit of grace. But even if James, like, knew him to be, like, a good guy, and he never did that to James health and, like, all he saw was good, like, what he was being accused of, maybe just, like, sit back and hear it out.
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Yeah, I forgot. Thank you so much for ruining that. Yeah. James Marsden. I love James Marsden.
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Me too.
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Corny Collins, of course. And Courtney Collins, like, worked with children, so he should know better.
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Yeah. And I think James is probably, like, a good. I don't. I actually don't know anything about him as a person. He just has great.
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Like, actually met him once.
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He has a great picker for roles.
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He's a great agent.
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He's like a fucking nightmare.
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No, no. James Morrison has a great agent, a great team around him.
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Yes and no. Yeah, because, like, he could be bigger. I know, but I feel like he's very niche.
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I don't know if he wants to be bigger, but it's such a great level of fame, you know, He's a great.
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He's a great celeb. He's, like, a great actor. He has great roles.
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And, like, what do you think is.
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His greatest role of. Courtney Collins stands out. But, like, I also loved him in Enchanted, the Notebook. What's. Yeah, Enchanted. Oh, the Notebook. That's so basic.
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Yeah. No, I was never gonna say it.
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I think Enchanted.
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Courtney Collins, for sure. Ball sound. Oh. Every afternoon when the clock strikes four.
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Bop deep bop bop, bobbity.
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A crazy bunch of kids crash through that door. Yeah. They throw off their coats and leave the squares behind? And you shake it, shake it, shake it like you're losing your mind. You better come on down and meet the nicest kids in town. Like, when the time comes for us to redo our theme song, which we are not there yet. I love our theme song, but if we ever. The person who wrote, like, that's the exact. Like, that's my mood board. Yeah, it's just like, where every afternoon when the clock strikes 12.
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Honey.
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He better do Honey heaven. Oh, Jackson. We should just license that song and, like, rewrite the lyrics. Like, that's my personal aesthetic.
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I agree. You know what's becoming my personal aesthetic? Like, my new favorite artist. I feel like you could guess it if you really think about it.
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Give me a second.
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It's not a reach, just someone I've been, like, talking about a lot who I'm, like, really getting to.
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Olivia Dean?
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No. Alex Warren.
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I saw you posted a reel about him.
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I'm obsessed. And his music's been coming up, like, more on my commute, and I've been, like, discovering new songs, and I just think he's so amazing.
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I completely agree. I'm here for the supermarket music rebrand into just, oh, good music. I think, like, Alex Warren is making really good music, and I I have no problem with it.
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Much like, I'm a really big fan of Alex Warren.
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Okay.
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He has a new song coming out that he's been teasing that actually sounds like it could be the greatest song of all time.
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Yeah. Do you know that other song of his that I think you would like about a.
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The one with Joe Jonas?
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Yes. Well, no, he released it by himself, and then Joe Jonas.
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I know it.
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It's a good one.
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It's on my, like.
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Oh, okay. So you're familiar. Cool.
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And I'm becoming more familiar.
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Today's episode is kind of the opposite of yesterday. Not pulsy. Really. There was no TV on last night. Again, I need, like, the tv. Oh, we need to talk about something.
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The vials.
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No, we'll talk about them in a minute. E. Is no longer a part of NBC Universal. So we have been talking extensively about this new, you know, spinoff show of the OG Housewives going to the E. Network and how it's a big deal, but, like, not really because it's still a part of the same family. I had no idea that the E. Network was spun off of NBC. First of all, where did they go? Like, who? Like, that's so crazy. They've been a part of NBC forever, so they're not a part of, like, the peacock Bravo Con family. This is a really big deal that they left, and it's.
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It's a really big deal that the women left.
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Yeah. And I'm assuming that they gave Bravo, like, a first right of refusal, and Bravo didn't want the show and they had nowhere else to go. So I love that for them. I'm so curious how this affects, you know, future Bravicon appearances. Future watch weapons. Live appearances. Because it's not. You could do.
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Watch what happens live, because people from other networks do watch what happens live.
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But it's not this big synergy. Like.
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Yeah, it's not this big synergy, but.
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Luann is still very much like, in the Bravo. She's on an ultimate Girls trip actively.
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Like, what ultimate goal. They still do that?
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I think that there's one coming out. The whole Morocco, like, sexual scandal, like, did derail it temporarily, but, you know, they can't keep a good housewife down.
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Yeah.
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And then there's that road trip we just covered.
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Right. Oh, the housewives. Like, I think there's a New York Housewives for.
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I think that's what Luanne's on.
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Okay.
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So it's just confusing. We needed to, you know, majorly issue a correction from that.
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Yeah.
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But no, we were not really pulsing today because there was no TV on last night. And I was just, like, hoping that, like, the people who release TV can shake up the schedule a little bit. Like, three of my shows all come out on Thursdays. The Pit Traders and Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. I've got nothing on Wednesdays and nothing on Mondays. Shake it up, Chicago. You know what? If the Real Housewives were on a Monday, that's a great way to start the week. That is Summer House is on Tuesday. Tell Me Lies is on Tuesdays. It's like, it's.
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We could stagger, like, our recaps, though. Like, we could have watched Tell Me Lies, like, on Wednesdays.
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No, I don't want to. How about that? But they really come out on Monday nights, so.
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Yeah, but, like, not everyone watches. Like, they will. Like, I think people would understand.
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I can't decide. I feel like we get into eras where we, like, watch so much tv. We keep up with tv, we recap it, like, the next day, and we get, like, hate being like, well, I don't listen watch that show. I'd rather you do pop culture stories. And then when we're, like, not watching stuff, being like, you call yourself a pop culture podcast and you're not watching Love Island.
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You know, I think, like, anything else, it's a balance. And at the end of the day, it's up to what Jackson Turd are interested in. You know what I mean? Like, we can't be watching shows that we don't enjoy. Like, we'll sit here and, like, just be negative. Like, be hateful. So right now, I'm enjoying everything that we're watching, and I think it's a value add for the show, and I'm committed to that journey. That's beautiful, but I can't say it will always be like this.
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No. Yeah, agreed.
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I'm not gonna watch every Real Housewives again.
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Oh, no. Don't get it twisted.
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Yeah. We are in our Mike TV era.
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Okay. Mike tv. Oh, Mike tv.
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Mike tv. Well, you know what? There's stories so we can get into it in the stories. So now, without further do that, do that, do. Here are the fast five stories that you do need to know.
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He'S also obsessed with wellness, but he's.
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Spoon. I don't know. Tartar. I don't know. We'll get there.
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Okay. Our first story, a bit of an update in Savannah Guthrie's the disappearance of her mother. She posted a video with her siblings pleading for her mom's safe return in this emotional video to the purported captor.
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I couldn't believe what I was watching. You know what I mean?
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Yeah.
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This is someone who, like, we only know on tv.
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Yeah, sorry.
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I'm doing that thing. We don't let you finish the story. Sorry. Go.
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Oh, that's okay.
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Yeah, Sorry. Taking constructive criticism. I can do it.
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It doesn't bother me, but I imagine as a listener, it's like if you story. Right, right, right.
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What's like. Shut up.
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Let's get the story and then let's.
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Get tt the amazing commentary. Yeah.
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Savannah Guthrie and her siblings Annie and Cameron are begging for them.
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You know, no kidding.
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Mother's safe return after her mysterious disappearance. Bring her home. She captioned an instagram video shared on Wednesday night. She said, we want to thank all of you for the prayers for our beloved mom, Nancy. We feel them and we continue to believe that she feels them too. So they believe and have faith that she is still alive. They said, our mom is a kind, faithful loyalty, fiercely loving, woman of goodness and light. She's funny, spunky, and clever. She has grandchildren that adore her and crowd around her and cuddle her with kisses. So she's begging for them to so return her mother.
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Well, the point of the video was like, we know that there's been ransom notes sent, and, like, we'll play your game, but we need to know for sure that our mom is alive. And I think often in, like, hostage situations, they'll take a picture with a newspaper. She's. Savannah was like, we need signs of life. And then, sure, whatever you want. Like, this is not. They're not gonna do it, though, unless they know. So this video was, like, not so much for the public, but for her captors. And I just, like, first of all, I was watching the video, and I was like, this is so crazy that we're seeing this. We're very used to seeing Savannah got three on tv, like, very morning news, perfect hair. And this was just, like, so raw and so emotional. And I just need people on the Internet to hashtag do better. Like, so much of the commentary was like, does anyone else feel like this is a weird video? Like there's something they're not telling us? Like, stop it. Just stop.
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That's really crazy.
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I know. It's just so, like, even in a.
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There's no really right way to make.
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A hostage negotiator video.
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Right.
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This is so crazy. And they also were talking about her health issues being like, she's a very fragile woman with lots of different health issues that, you know, day by day needing her medication. So it was a desperate plea for some signs of life. You know, I imagine the person who took her, like, is not interested in holding onto this woman forever. They want their money. So Savannah's like, great, great. I'll give you your money. Just we need to know she's, like, alive and well.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. There was also some drama with, like, another reporter. I was like, I didn't really get into it on TikTok, but there was a reporter on TikTok who sort of like, just said that Savannah's brother in law is a person of interest. And as far as we know, he's not actively a person of interest. I'm now, like, starting all these theories and stuff, which, if not true, is, like, so not cool. And I think, like, a lot of people, you know, who know a lot of, like, journalism are saying, you know, she jumped the gun.
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Yeah. And, like, she should. Even if he's a person of interest, like, once you share that, they sort of, like, marks that. And it could be true that he is a person of interest, but that might no longer be interesting at a certain point, like, he might be cleared, but still, he has that mark.
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Mark on him.
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Right. Uncool if it turns out to be untrue.
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Yeah. So, like, there is drama in this tragedy, and it's just like, another day. What was this on Sunday? Now it's Thursday. Like, that's a long time.
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Yeah.
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For, like, no real updates. That's far as you know. As far as we know.
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I'm holding out hope.
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Yeah, of course.
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That. That. Yeah. Someone's holding her for ransom. And there's, like, there must be a good enough reason why Savannah made this video that she really believes that that's what it's for.
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Well, I think it's because, like, the bitcoin information that they sent to the news stations was a real account. Yeah. So it's not like, woo, woo.
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Yeah.
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There's a way out if she's alive.
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Right. If that person who sent the messages is the one that took her.
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Yeah.
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So we'll hopefully know more soon. Our next story, some drama with Ms. McCray. Tate McCray. Oh, my God.
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I hadn't heard about this until Jackie was telling me before the show. And I'm sorry. This is hysterical.
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Tate McCrae is responding to backlash over her appearance in Winter Olympics ad with Team USA athletes. So Tate McCrae posted a video to her Instagram, like, in promotion of the 2026 US Olympics start tomorrow. Like, tomorrow's opening ceremony.
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Is it tomorrow? Yeah.
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Oh, that's exciting.
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Okay. My weekend just, like, blew wide open.
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So she is in a no suit on the slopes, and there's an owl next to her. And the owl's like, who? And she's very on trend.
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Do you know the owl trend?
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No.
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Okay. This is my impersonation of an owl if he was from Long Island. Hell, like, people keep doing that. This is my impersonation of an owl. If he, you know, was related to Teresa Giudice, who's my daughter, you know, like, oh, I'm not doing good examples.
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No, I understand.
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Okay.
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You've successfully explained.
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Okay.
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I'm glad everyone's using their time very thoughtfully.
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Yes. It's one of my favorite Trends.
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So the Al said, who? And she said, Tate McCray. And he's like, who? And she's like, I'm nobody. Nobody's girl. That is. I just want to say it was just weird.
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But commercial sounds so dumb. I don't get it.
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She said, I'm trying to get to Milan for an amazing opening ceremony and meet Team usa. Then it's the weekend with America's best skating for gold and Lindsey Vaughn's epic comeback, then come back to the States for the big game, Super Bowl, Alex. And there's like a montage of, like, Olympic athletes. And then she says, forget it. I'll just ask someone else. So it's just like this little bit of promo for the Winter Olympics, and she's getting backlash because she's from Canada.
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Now an important distinction needs to be made. Is she making a commercial in support of the Olympics or in support of Team usa?
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So it's both. It's the. I think it's for the Olympics. You know, like, watch the Olympics on Peacock. But, like, there's only American athletes. She said she's going to support America. Lindsey Vaughn, whatever. And then people are like, but you're from Canada, which you can move to America and be like, america proud.
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That's true.
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And be rooting for America.
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She's Canada proud.
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But then she posted an Instagram story of her as a little girl with a Canadian flag saying, y' all know I'm Canada down.
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Oh, so she was getting hate at first from Canada being like, hey, girl, you're with us. Why are you making a commercial for Team usa? So she was like, yeah, look, everyone, I'm with Canada. And then it's like, well, bitch, why do we just pay you all this money to be in our Team USA commercial? I just want to say I think the hate is really warranted here. No, but this makes no fudgeing sense.
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Fineless. It's like, oh, you got in trouble for. You can support America. Also, she's dating an ice hockey player who's playing for usa. Like, you can root for USA. Also, I'm pretty sure she lives here. Like, it's okay to, like, root for the country that you live in, but then don't, like, be wishy washy. Like, oh, no, I'm Canada. Yeah.
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I just feel like, like, anyone could have been in this commercial. Honestly, I don't know what the Olympics or, like, winter sports have anything to do with Tate McCrae. So when it comes to, like, young, hot things, they could have poached. Like, maybe if they're doing a Team America 1, they could have chosen someone American and, like, you know, just avoided all this.
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Yeah. But then she also said she's going for the opening ceremony, and then she's coming back for the Super Bowl. Like, is she gonna be in the opening ceremony?
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It's in Milan.
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Yeah.
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Is she Milanese?
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She's Canadian.
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Like, maybe French Canadian.
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Still. Not Milanese. Not Italian. Canadian.
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Oh, wait, sorry. Milan is in Italy.
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Of course. I mean, she could still be French Canadian and.
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And that would be irrelevant because Milan is in Italy.
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She's an international woman, however. And usually it's like, you know, we were for everyone. But, like, I feel like with the Olympics.
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No, we have borders.
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We have a border.
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Now, I want to Google something really quick because remember, in the French Olympics in Paris, they had, like, all their famous Parisians. And it turns out, like, there's actually not a lot.
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It was very French proud, right?
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And I was like, who are these people on a global scale?
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Who knows? Milan might take a different approach. They might make it a more international ceremony.
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Who are famous Italians? No, it's usually like they, you know, it's a huge honor to have the Olympics in your town. And you pried up like local heroes. Oh, of course. Leonardo da Vinci. Who could forget? I am. I need to change to who are famous Italians living alive? Danilo Gallinari.
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Of course.
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Donatella Versace. Oh, Andrea Bocelli. That's good.
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Do you think he'll perform? Does anyone know who's performing at the opening ceremony, or is it a surprise?
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I think it's a surprise. Oh, Main Skin or Mana Skin.
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For sure they'll be there.
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Isabella Rossellini. Oh, they got a lot of people. Donatella Versace.
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Donatella Versace.
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No, she hasn't. Are you okay? Donatella Versace.
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She has not passed.
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Are you okay? Who are you confusing her with? No, Valentino just passed away.
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No, but someone previously. It'll. It'll make sense.
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Okay. I don't think she's alive. They've got people in all categories.
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Skin. Will 1000% be there.
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Mean skin goes to everything. So I imagine they'll go to this. Oh, Galileo.
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Galileo.
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Galileo Galilei. Yeah, he's a big one.
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I wouldn't. I wouldn't be opposed to them throwing in some other, like, artists. Just, I want the best opening ceremony, you know, I. They could be singing Italian songs.
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You know. Who's so famous Italian is going to be there? Maria Montessori of the Montessori school system. And so far. Okay, these people are dead, rip. I think that they've got lots to choose from between Andrea Bocelli and Main Skin.
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And I think also, like, it could be about things other than just, like, music.
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Oh, he is performing. Confirmed.
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Who?
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Andrea Bocelli.
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Oh, well, thank God for that. That's really all you need.
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It's like when I had my wedding in Italy. Oh, you're not on Tick Tock.
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No, it's like when Celine Dion Performed in France and sort of saved the.
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Whole thing beyond saves up. So she's French Canadian. That's where I got confused, by the way.
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So Andrea, like, I actually don't care what else happens. Yeah, agreed.
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Like, everyone go home. Just leave us with Andrea.
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Yeah, leave Andrea to it. With a little opening for Mean Skin.
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Main Skin featuring Andrea.
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So, yeah, all in all, like, really not a big deal. And she can, like, be taking that NBC money promoting the Winter Olympics. And it is on Peacock. And people watching in America on Peacock are rooting for usa.
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No, this happens all the time. Like, I, like, I feel like whenever we were watching the Olympics and they talk about how, like, there are Americans competing, like, for the Philippines just because, like, that's their ancestry and they're proud of it or opposite. Like, I feel like actually it happens a lot where, like, a lot of athletes train, live everything in the US but then go on to compete for, like, other countries. Right. So it's kind of. It's borderless, actually.
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Yeah. No, no, Like, I feel like when we talk about that, like, yeah, the people who, like, grew up here and like, like play here and learn here and then go, like, go back to their other countries. It's like, kind of.
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No, because, like, if you're, like, proud of where you're from or sometimes some people, like, don't.
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You can't qualify.
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They don't qualify for Team usa, but they can qualify for Team Germany.
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Right.
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So it's case by case.
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It's a loophole. But it's. Then it's just a bunch of Americans competing against each other.
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Correct. That is what the Olympics is. There's Americans everywhere. Like, we're so annoying.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Because I feel like we take it more seriously now. China's, like, obsessed too, and like, low key. Russia, even though I can't remember if.
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They'Re, like, allowed but in it for.
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For a while, like, we were the only people taking it seriously. And that's why we were, like, the most honored. And now China's like, okay, well, China.
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Takes it very seriously for a while. Russia was taking it very serious. Right.
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And again, are they in.
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They weren't in the summer. Right. Or they aren't. They.
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They don't get a flag. Right. And that happens in, like, tennis too.
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Yeah. And also they could, like, go compete for another country. Right, right.
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Like how Americans go compete for every other country. Yeah.
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Anyways, like, I guess it's a good way to get good athletes in there. Also, people are excited because Lindsey Vonn is competing with A torn acl.
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Yeah. Which, like, is the type of tox athleticism we shouldn't be encouraging, but, like, here she is. Queen. Ow. Yeah. Things that hurt.
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That so. Yeah. Tate McRae stepped in it. Like, good luck stepping out of it.
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Just feel like she kind of needed this. Do you know what I mean? Her career feels like, a little stale and like. Like a very harmless scandal. It's just what she needs.
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No, it's just funny. I'm not mad at her.
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No, of course not.
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Not over this.
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No.
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Our next story. I'm not mad at her at all. It sounded like I'm mad. It did.
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I was like, well, what are you mad at her for?
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She's not bothered me. And I. I think she's a talented young lady and I hope she is performing at the Olympic ceremony. I think. You know what this is. Maybe she'll sing Fast Car or What's her car about? A speed sports car. Sports car. Like, with a Ferrari. Because Ferrari.
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That's beautiful. Synergy.
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Ferrari.
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I just want to say, if Italy has, like, performers singing from Canada and America, like, that's major loser.
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I'm sorry. If you have Tate McCray singing fast car and a Ferrari slay, they're not going to. Why else was she talking about the opening ceremony? What else is she doing there?
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Well, that's true. Like, why was she tapped for this?
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And then she said she's coming back for the Super Bowl. Like, are you performing the Super Bowl?
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Yeah, I think she was more so sharing that. Like, on NBC. On NBC this weekend. There's a lot of sports.
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Yeah. Oh, and the Super Bowls this weekend on NBC. On NBC.
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Yeah.
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Licks no eye looks.
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Oh, sorry.
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Our next story, a little literary news. Gossip Girl author Cecily Von Ziegesar will be penning a Blair Waldorf standalone sequel novel. So Gossip Girl fan favorite Blair Waldorf's Manhattan exploits are set to continue in a new standalone novel titled Blair from the original series author Cecily Von Ziegesar. So if you're a millennial, all these players are very familiar to you. Like, maybe everyone remembers Gossip Girl, the TV show, more than the books. But, like, we all read in the.
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Books for a minute.
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We all know Cecil.
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Those books, those books cut off. I would love to know where those models are now. Like, their faces were everything. That was all we had.
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Like, I think one of them worked in the White House. Do you remember that?
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You're kidding.
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She was on the COVID of.
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Yeah, I think Gossip Girl model, White, White House.
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She was on cover of It Girl.
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Okay.
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Hope Hicks. Yeah. And then she worked in the White House.
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Oh, so she's on the COVID of It Girl. It Girl.
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But that's also Cecily.
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Let me see.
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That was when Jenny Humphrey went to boarding school.
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Oh, I don't think I read the It Girl ones.
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Oh, they were slay.
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Oh, my. This girl's gorgeous. Hope Hicks. I'm dying. I feel like I've kind of heard of her.
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They went on to do great things.
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I'm sorry, but the faces.
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I know, but how would we know who they are? Like, they gave us one face.
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I just wonder if they know, like, what they meant to a generation. Those faceless, nameless people.
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I think that they do. Okay, so it was always, like, when the show was coming. And also, you would, like, look at them and you're like, which one's, Blair? Which one's?
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Yeah, of course you would try to.
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Like, guess, but they were sort of like, every face.
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They were blurry, like, faceless and aimless.
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And then when the show was coming out, it's like, is it going to be these girls?
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Right now, a lot of people are excited about this, not because they plan on reading the book, but because, well, will Leighton return? Because it's a Blair book set 20 years in the future, so Leighton Meester, like, could reprise her role if this were to ever get adapted. I feel like, based on what we know, Leighton doesn't hate Blair, but she doesn't lean in like that when she gets asked questions about it. She tolerates it, but she certainly doesn't, like, live for it. There's literally no shot in him. Hell, she. Whatever.
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I just feel like if she wouldn't. Why isn't Cecily writing Serena, you know, or, like, Jennifer?
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I don't think anybody wants Serena right now.
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No, but, like, first of all, that's exactly what she needs, that she should.
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Be paying Cecily to write the book.
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You know? Like, I feel like you have to think a couple steps ahead.
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It's because the show, which has, like, regained popularity with a new generation, the obsession is Blair. Everyone's takeaway is like, serena sucks. Jenny's a freak. Don't get us started on Vanessa. Of course. Rest in peace to Georgina.
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Right?
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Yeah. And Blair is, like, the crown jewel of that show. So if there were ever going to be an interest in a new book, it was going to always be Blair.
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Yeah, I guess So. I will 1000% be reading this.
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It sounds like it's for us.
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Yeah, it's like, mom drama. So, Blair, is it's giving.
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Bye, baby. Bye, bye, baby.
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She's in her 40s. Details about the novel are still under wraps, but it's expected to follow the former NYC socialite as she returns to the big act chapel to climb her way back to the top of the Upper east side food chain.
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Where'd she go? It sounds really good. And who am I?
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That's one secret I'll never tell.
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Yeah, so in terms of, like, for the book people, I think this is, like, gonna be so fun and huge.
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Because the girls who read Gossip Girl.
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Are in their 30s and 40s and they're having babies. And this is the type of book we're looking for.
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We will be reading this for the redheads.
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When people are fantasizing now about a series. Like, I just want them to be careful. I don't. I don't. I don't think it's going to be what you want it to be.
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But maybe Minka Kelly would do it literally. And we could just pretend like nothing happened.
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Although while.
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Or maybe Michaela from Salt Lake City is available.
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While Gossip Girl, like, is regarded as, like, this teen drama, if you are to watch it, it is an exercise in perfection when it comes to acting. Blair Waldorf, like, the character that she was given and the character that she created, like, is a masterpiece. Minga Kelly could never. Sorry.
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Yeah. Also, like, she brought Blair off the page. Like, the Blair in the books was, like, you know, just a Queenie. But, like, she's so much more.
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She's iconic because of Leighton.
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Yeah.
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So honestly, Bladen can't do it. Like, don't make it.
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Don't make the show, but do make the book.
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Of course. Of course.
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Do make the book, please. Our fourth story. Are you ready for our fourth story?
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Should I not be? I don't know.
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I say you're ready.
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Okay.
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Just give me one second. You really caught me off guard.
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Thank you. Use as turd directed.
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Maybe we'll pick it back up again tomorrow.
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Thank you. Uses turdirected Yep. Our next story. Nick Viall and Natalie Joy Viall are pregnant. They shared yesterday that they are expecting twins. So the name on everybody lips this week is the vials. We were talking about them yesterday and then I was so excited to see after the show that they announced that they are pregnant. They are expecting twins. She spoke to E. News and said it's surreal. It's a dream come true. I can't believe I even get to say the words out loud that I'm pregnant and that I'm this far along and that I'm having twins it's crazy to me. It feels like a fever dream. So they have a two year old daughter, River Rose, and the magical lullaby. And they also have shared and been very open about the challenges they faced while trying to grow their family. They experienced three previous miscarriages and now they're expecting two babies and they're just over the moon. Thrilled.
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I was shocked.
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I was shocked. I'm so happy for them.
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I am too. Like, I know that they've been getting a lot of like, scrutiny recently and just gives me such a pit that she's been like, in the throes of first trimester. Like, nausea while I'm assuming.
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No. And also, like, you don't need anxiety.
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No, I know. I know.
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And it's like, I hope she's not looking at anything.
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Yeah. Cause it's such a.
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She didn't even hear precocious time.
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How far along is she? Because she said she's so excited to be this far along.
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Well, far enough along to share.
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Right.
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So I don't know when they are due, but she's out of the first trimester.
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Huge.
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Probably.
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I'm truly wishing her, like a very safe, quiet, uneventful pregnancy.
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Yeah. And I hope that she's just not online and has no idea. Didn't even hear yesterday, even though we went back and watched it.
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Oh, thank you. So I found the episode. I thought it was a recent one. It was like right after she got back from the toast. The two of them could not have been more lovely or complimentary of the show.
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Like, I hate that.
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I almost fell for that clickbait clip. Like, it was. She was basically saying how she got herself into trouble with her age gap. Whatever. It had nothing to do with us. Nick was like, I'm so proud of my wife making it on the toast. They're such great girls. I love those girls.
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They're pun like par g. Nothing's gonna come between us. I'm so glad I didn't take the bait.
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Yeah.
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And I'm glad that you listened. And it's like so taken out of context. It's from literally the day after.
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Yeah. No, and like, they were talking about it like it was this huge accomplishment for Natalie. They were so proud. She missed Jeremiah on vial files. But she didn't even.
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It was good.
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Yeah.
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Like Jeremiah.
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I know.
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Those are the days.
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Oh, my God. Sometimes I think about, like that Love island saga and we weren't doing the toast. Right.
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I. You are on maternity leave.
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Right.
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I was doing it with.
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But we were also in the Hamptons.
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Oh. And then we weren't doing the toast, but the first month of Love island was with guest co host.
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Got it.
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Okay. So, like, I would talk about it if the person that day had watched, which Natalie had.
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Got it. Got it. Got it. It. Okay.
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Yeah. And she was aligned.
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Okay. That was such a crazy time.
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Like, that was a crazy time. But I'm so happy for them.
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Me too. It's really, like a wonderful ending, hopefully to their story.
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A new beginning. Are you ready for our fifth and final story?
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Liz woods is also pregnant. Just kind of huge news.
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Oh, huge news for the swirly.
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For the toaster community.
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It's like, yeah, I saw that she announced yesterday. Yeah.
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Yeah. But we've known.
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So it's like, I'm. When someone I wanted to comment, like.
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So glad we could finally share, like, just everybody know. Like. Yeah, I knew first.
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I wasn't trying to be like, say, like, I knew first. I was just trying to say, like, when someone tells me something in confidence, like, before it's public.
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Did you just get a pit that I said it out loud?
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No, it's just like, I never turn the switch of. We can talk about this now. Like Masked Singer. Which leads into our fifth and final story.
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Yes.
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A little masked singer news. Another unmasking last night. Teddy Mellencamp.
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I just want to say I'm so sad for the season. Like, now I need to know who everyone is. I was like, trolling Reddit like, you.
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Need to Caso is.
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I will not know Peace. And now people are saying that Pug Caso is Philip Phillips.
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Well, wouldn't that be kismet?
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And I just want to say, if I lost to Philip, I still believe it to be Court Overstreet. I don't think it's Matthew Morrison, and I don't think it's Anthony Ramos.
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I think it's Anthony Ramos. I know.
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And you have no proof. You just want it to be Anthony.
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No, like, he played baseball. They made a big to do about his baseball.
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I think that it's court over street. But now I need to listen to it again.
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I don't think it's court over over street.
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Do you think it's Philip Phillips?
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I think more Philip Phillips than. Than Cord. I think I'll tie Philip and Anthony for number. Actually, for me, Anthony, if I was.
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Standing across from Philip Phillips and I didn't know it, like, I will die. You know, I'm. I am Philip Phillips, the number one fan.
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We know and we agree.
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I'm gonna make this place your Home.
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Oh, I need to listen.
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I recently relistened to Philip Phillips debut album. It is up there with.
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One republic.
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Thank you, Colby Ket. Yeah. Like the greats. Let me just tell you because you're not going to remember this. Gone, gone, gone.
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Yeah.
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I recently, like, had a Phillip Renaissance.
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Interesting with that album.
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It's called the World from this. The World from the side of the Moon. Of course. Home. Gone, gone, gone.
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Coming. Dance.
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Get up, get down Get a little bit closer than we see. Like, so good, good.
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There's a song like Dance in the title.
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There's not, actually.
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There's not. Yeah.
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Man on the moon.
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Yeah.
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So good.
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There's not dance.
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Gone, gone, gone. No, there's not dance. Sorry. I'm gonna read them to you and, like, see. Oh, actually, sorry. It's literally right here. A fool stands. Sorry. It's gaslit the out of you.
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You gaslit the out of me.
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So last night there was a reveal I was watching and I was also trolling Reddit because they're. They pretty much figured out I was, like, trying to avoid all the posted at me because, like, it's not a kind place. And everyone did guess this and it was kind of obvious.
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Yeah. So Teddy Mellencamp unmasked herself as Calla Lily. She had performed Fight Song, which is.
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A battle battle cry for cancer patients.
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Cancer patients and survivors. And then she also performed Jack and Diane by John Mellencamp. There were a lot of clues that she had a famous family member who sings. She had a diamond house key.
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Oh, Real Housewives.
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Yeah. And then last night, she was sent home. She said. What did she say? She said, I'm not a singer by trade, clearly. And so that part clearly challenging for me. Also, a big part of my memory has been excused since my brain surgery. So I was a little bit nervous, but I was excited to push myself out of my comfort zone and try something new. And it felt like it gave me a little bit of life. Queen. Yeah.
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Honestly, Queen. Now, I don't know if, like. Because we know it's, like, so obvious that it was her. Like, I imagine it's actually, like, the hardest job to be a judge.
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Yes. But I like to think I would.
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Be good at it. But I don't know.
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No. And I feel like some people are easier to guess. Like, I do feel like with Housewives and her, there's a lot of lore, but, like, athletes. Athletes, I think, really professionally at all. Athletes, I think are. There are just so many famous people, like, I know and when.
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And they cast A wide net.
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Such a wide net. It could be thousands of people.
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It's true.
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And I don't know. Thousands. Thousands of people. I know my people.
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Yeah.
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And these clues, like, it's Anthony Ramos. And to be clear, I don't know who Anthony Ramos is. You.
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Yeah. If Anthony Ramos came up to you and said, I love the toast, you would say, thanks, sir. Have a good day.
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Thank you. Random fan, right?
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Male fan.
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I saw somebody guess Anthony Ramos on X and it just really stuck with me because I thought it was a good guess based on his clues and.
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His experience and of course, based on gender. Based on gender.
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Well, that's another thing. It's like, how do we even know?
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I imagine there have been, like, times where people thought like, a man was a woman and a woman was man. Some women have very feminine, very masculine voices. Singing wise. And so a lot of men have very few, like, feminine.
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But I feel like in the packages they're like, she. You know what I mean? Like, I don't think they try and obscure the gender.
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Yeah, no, I don't think they do either. But sometimes, like, maybe it's confusing.
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Yeah. And if they had, like, I just.
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Want to let you know, if I ever, like, performed and then the guesses, the judges started guessing a man, I just want to let you know, I would take my mask off in that moment and quit.
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Well, you were queen Corey, so you didn't have to worry about it.
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Yes. Thank God.
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And like, Picasso is dressed like a man. Right, Right.
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Hala Lily. She was wearing a dress.
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These days that doesn't mean anything. Androgynous. 100% menswear for women. Men's shirts, shorts, skirts. Correct.
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Makes you think it would be interesting.
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To have a non binary contestant on.
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The show and how they would navigate.
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That and like, the packages. Yeah, they would. What would they say? And also, like, they. They might.
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Then that would give it away if. If the package was like, they this and they that.
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No, no, no. They would have to script it. So it was like always, you know.
A
Yeah. A challenge for the math singer. Free idea.
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As if it's not hard enough.
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Yeah, right. To guess now we're just like, you know, obfuscating pronouns, like.
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Yeah. So those are the best five stories. Wow.
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I feel good. I feel really like. I feel like that was a strong.
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A strong performance from Corgi.
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Do you ever put, like, pressure on yourself? Like, kind of every day, like, we have to excel in this one thing and you know, it's over before you know it. Like, do you Put any pressure on yourself to, like, perform well on the episode.
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Couple things. That's interesting that you said that one. I was in the car on the phone with Zach, and we were talking just about, like, something unfun. And I was like. And we were, like, talking about it for a while. We were kind of done talking, but we talked about it some more. And I was like, you know what? I gotta go. I'm gonna listen to music. I don't want to, like, feel tense. Before the show, I was, like, having to get into, like, my mood so that I was thinking about that. And then right before we started, our producer said, have a great show. And I was like, wow. Yeah. Like, we have to put on a show right now, and there's no guarantee of how it will go.
A
I know. And I feel like that's kind of the harder part about doing this show. Pregnant. Like, I remember, like, especially in the mornings when I was pregnant, I was, like, so uncomfortable and, like. Like, angry about, like, quite literally nothing. And then I'm like, faigy goji lady. And it's, like, so big.
B
No. But I don't ever think that it is fake.
A
No, it does. Like, the toast washes over you.
B
It does. And I think that's how the listeners feel listening to it. But I definitely think, like, for us, like, we come and it's the morning, and then this show is a transformation. Whereas by the end, we are ready for lunch.
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We are beautiful swans, too.
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We are.
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We are the swan. We are.
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We come in as, like, ugly ducklings. Internally, family. Always beautiful always. And we leave, like, these positive, affable swans.
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Who are ready lunch. We started the week as accidental monarchs.
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Matriarchs.
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Thank you. Also monarchs of a small country. We're ending the week. What did she just say? Affable. Positive affable swans. The affable swan. Title.
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I love that.
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It's not our best, but maybe some work.
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The thing about title, you know, the.
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Work never ends, Jackie.
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No, it doesn't. But anyways, I do think the show does. I think we had a jolly good show, all to say. But I do think about that sometimes. It's like, this show isn't guaranteed. Like, no.
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And it's like it's kind of the mountain I have to climb every day to, like, slay once.
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One giant sleigh.
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One small sleigh for toast kind.
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No, no. One small cipher, Koji. One giant slay for toast kind. We love you dearly.
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Thank you so much for listening to the Just Some Monday morning show. We deal with the fast side stories you need to know Everybody Friday on YouTube so you're watching us on YouTube. Please feel free to subscribe and give this video a thumbs up. We're also available as podcasts anywhere podcasts can be found so Spotify itunes Stitcher Public Video I already cast box all the places so every listen to podcasts Finance that tells you the five star review about a beautiful, stunning and wickedly talented we are. Hope you guys have an amazing day and we'll see you tomorrow for fry.
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Yay for Fry Dairies. Love ya. Bye.
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This Thursday’s episode of The Toast is classic Jackie and Claudia—witty, cozy, and filled with sisterly banter. The main theme is nostalgia and the evolution of girlhood into womanhood, interspersed with hot takes on pop culture news, Olympic celebrity drama, and listener-favorite deep dives into the hosts’ memories. Memorable discussion threads revolve around fake IDs in their youth, first dates, TV scheduling woes and a lively breakdown of the latest viral stories.
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“What you do in the dark shows in the light.”
(B, [00:31]) — Jackie, on the arrival of Thursdays and the fruits of consistent hard work.
On fake IDs:
“I remember being like, they're like, you know, boarding pass and ID. I'm like, here's my boarding pass. I literally don't own an ID... And they were like, I thought you said you didn't have an ID. And I'm like, I got so nervous. I was like, well, it's fake.”
(A, [09:28])
On first date etiquette:
“You want to be seen as the sort of woman who's down to pay. But now, no, you don't. Like, in hindsight. Like, no, you don't.”
(B, [05:44])
Olympics pop culture context:
“There’s Americans everywhere. Like, we're so annoying... because I feel like we take it more seriously...”
(A, [35:03])
On the pressure and relief of performing daily:
“I feel like that was a strong performance from Corgi.”
(B, [53:59])
Episodic philosophy:
“We come in as, like, ugly ducklings, internally, family, always beautiful always, and we leave, like, these positive, affable swans.”
(B, [55:12])
This episode is both a nostalgia-soaked ride and a pop culture pulse check. Jackie & Claudia oscillate effortlessly between stories from their past (fake IDs, college visits, first dates) and rapid-fire takes on current news—from Savannah Guthrie’s personal tragedy and the Olympics’ nationality drama, to big pop lit news and the euphoria of pregnancy reveals. The episode ends on a meta note, reflecting on the challenge and catharsis of daily performance, with a signature clever Toast metaphor: “We leave like positive, affable swans.”
For any Toast listener or first-timer, this episode is quintessential Oshry: irreverent, relatable, and joyfully aware of its cultural lane.