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- [00:05]
Taylor Strecker
Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast. It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host. It's your favorite show.
- [00:17]
Jackie Schimmel
The best five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the Toast. They sound amazing. Welcome back to the Toast. Happy Thursday. Happy Taylor Strecker Thursday. Hey, girl. Hey.
- [00:34]
Taylor Strecker
Oh, my God. Thank you for the hey girl. Hey. It really means the world. Jackie, I am so excited for this. Like, there are no words. I'm honored. I'm thrilled. I literally, I put my porgiest, pargiest foot forward. Like, I'm so ready to go.
- [00:48]
Jackie Schimmel
No, you are the elk of Toast co hosts today. Like, you look so cute. You're sitting in Claudia's studio. Studio in her setup. So it's gonna like, unless you look too closely, like, you might not know this isn't original recipe toast because Taylor, like, is so toasty. You are. Have the look down. Like, I'm really excited to podcast with you. You and I haven't podcasted together in forever.
- [01:08]
Taylor Strecker
This is so long overdue. Like, I am so excited.
- [01:11]
Jackie Schimmel
And the thing is, I also haven't caught up with you, like, friend to friend in forever because I saw you a few weeks ago at Claudia's Brass. Like, I couldn't have been more stressed out as an individual.
- [01:19]
Taylor Strecker
Really? Why? Because, like, just, just like with my.
- [01:21]
Jackie Schimmel
Kids, like, just like, I just had a lot going on. So, like, I didn't get to like, catch up with you.
- [01:26]
Taylor Strecker
You honestly, I didn't even notice a bead of sweat on your brow. Your kids are so gorgeous. I was literally, I was like, dying for them. I mean, all the babies in the Ashrae lineage are just like, they're stunning.
- [01:39]
Jackie Schimmel
Oh, thank you so much. They're so sweet. We had so much fun. But I was like, you know, they're just. They run wild. So I'm like wrangling them. And a lot of my friends were at the brisk who I haven't seen in a while. And like, no, I did not get to catch up and have meaningful convos with anyone. So today I'm gonna have a meaningful convo with you.
- [01:58]
Taylor Strecker
I'm so excited. I cannot wait.
- [02:00]
Jackie Schimmel
How are you doing?
- [02:01]
Taylor Strecker
I am great. I took the subway here, first of all.
- [02:04]
Jackie Schimmel
I just want to noted that's worth mentioning.
- [02:06]
Taylor Strecker
Thank you.
- [02:07]
Jackie Schimmel
That's like a really big deal.
- [02:08]
Taylor Strecker
It's also important to note for Claudia specifically that I was not just prompt and on time today. I was actually technically, like three minutes early. And you know, Claudia and I, I. I'm always late for her. So I don't know if it's good that I was early for you, or it's actually gonna be, like, a bigger bone of contention.
- [02:25]
Jackie Schimmel
Or it's like, maybe you're so used to running late that when you're running early, you're not yourself.
- [02:30]
Taylor Strecker
Right.
- [02:30]
Jackie Schimmel
You know, like, you're off kilter.
- [02:32]
Taylor Strecker
Right, Exactly. So. But I, I, I just want Claudia to know that I was really good in prom today and.
- [02:39]
Jackie Schimmel
Because you took the subway.
- [02:41]
Taylor Strecker
Well, just because, like, I, I respect Jax. Like, I would never, ever meet Jax. Wait. I would make. I would make Claudia wait.
- [02:51]
Jackie Schimmel
And the toasters, like, honestly, we're being real. Like, I think it's scarier to, like, leave the toasters hanging. Like, where's the episode?
- [02:56]
Taylor Strecker
No, we can't have it. I mean, the way that. I don't know if it's just, like, a Jersey City thing, because I live in Jersey City, but, like, I get recognized by toasters. I get toasted, like, every single single day. It's unbelievable.
- [03:09]
Jackie Schimmel
I also must get recognized because you're, like, kind of a big star these days, and your star is rising like, you're on television. Like, word on the street is that you're gonna be on television more, and you're just, like, kind of a small screen princess.
- [03:21]
Taylor Strecker
I mean, thank you. Yes. I'm finally the reality star that I've always been meant to be. I think I said three words on Vanderpump Villa, all of them very troublesome and poignant. I, like, not me making a fucking incest joke, which, by the way, I really thought was going to get cut. After we were done filming, I was talking to a producer, and he said to me, do you, like, do you, like, think before you talk, or, like, do you just, like, willy nilly by the seat of your pants? And I was like, I mean, I've done, like, radio podcasting for, like, almost 20 years. So, like, I don't, like, come with, like, lines in my head, but, like, yeah, I mean, I'm always cognizant of what I'm gonna say.
- [04:04]
Jackie Schimmel
Right?
- [04:05]
Taylor Strecker
And he was like, really? The incest joke? And I was like, oh, it was a joke. And he was like, well, don't worry, that is not airing. And when I saw it air, I was, like, having a panic attack because I was like, wait, like, is, Am I going to get canceled? Which isn't really even a thing.
- [04:24]
Jackie Schimmel
Somebody liked your joke.
- [04:26]
Taylor Strecker
Somebody did. And then, like, poor Bo sister, because it was kind of a joke at her expense, and she is like, she's Italian. So, like, there's also some, like, some things that are lost in translation.
- [04:36]
Jackie Schimmel
Yes.
- [04:37]
Taylor Strecker
So I was like, maybe I'll get away with it because she won't understand my, like, Law and Order SVU reference. But the people in the audience did, and they've been DMing her, and I'm like, oh. Like. And now I feel like any nasty DM she gets, they're like, they're. They're my fault. Like, there's blood on my hands.
- [04:55]
Jackie Schimmel
Oh, my God, that's so rough.
- [04:57]
Taylor Strecker
I know, but she's so sweet. She's like, it's okay. Don't worry. But she's like, the people are mad that I'm in love with my brother. I'm like, oh, fuck.
- [05:07]
Jackie Schimmel
Hopefully they have a better mentality about, like, getting online hate. Maybe the thicker skin. Maybe. Like, I feel like they would. The Italians.
- [05:14]
Taylor Strecker
The Italians, yeah. They're. Yeah, I agree. I think that they kind of like their laws. They.
- [05:19]
Jackie Schimmel
They don't live in the comments.
- [05:21]
Taylor Strecker
They don't live in the comments. They have better things to do, like, drink wine and eat cheese and be skinny. Like, what is wrong with our food in this country? Don't even get me started.
- [05:28]
Jackie Schimmel
Well, Taylor, I didn't think it was going to be that kind of episode. I'm always willing to go there. I'm always willing to talk about what's wrong with the food in our country. And that's why, like, I love Ozempic as a concept, because modern solutions for modern problems.
- [05:42]
Taylor Strecker
I mean, I like, what a time to be alive. I feel hashtag blessed. Like, my mom is so jealous that I get ozempic in my 40s. Like, she's like, that's not fair. Like, she's approaching her 70s, and she's like, I had to wait. My. Like, she's like, do you know the quality of life I would have had if I had had this medication at the fingertips? Like, she is. She's jellyfish, big time.
- [06:05]
Jackie Schimmel
No, I'm jellyfish, too. Like, I feel like my timing is decent on Ozempic. Like, it's waiting for me one day, but, like, it would have been nice to have in my 20s when I was, you know, starving for my wedding. Like, that would have been nice, but, like, I'm not gonna nitpick because I look forward to, like, a long future with Ozempic. But I did. Like, it did come about, like, right when I was moving on from being, like, toxically obsessed with my weight. So sad.
- [06:30]
Taylor Strecker
I. I know. I feel like I had finally gotten there. And then they're like, oh, wait, here's a thing that can make you go like, oh, remember that hard work I did? Lol. That was a joke. That was just a joke. Here I am, like, I'm still on it. I've been on it since Brian Kelly's 40th birthday.
- [06:46]
Jackie Schimmel
Well, you look amazing. How is it? Like, do you feel like your life has changed?
- [06:51]
Taylor Strecker
I feel like a new woman. I actually did not take my shot this week because I was like, when we were in Miami for Stassi doing Sports Illustrated. Yeah, I was just like, I wanted to like have fun and drink. So I kind of took like a lower dosage and then like, I kind of got like, like off my like specific day. So this week I was like, I'm just going to skip this week and just like recalibrate. But like, it's crazy because I, I don't like me not on this medication. And it's not even really about necessarily. Like, I'm not losing weight this week or I'm gaining weight. It's not that. It's like I have like such an OCD obsessive brain and like, trust. I have a therapist and like we're on all the medications. But there's something about Ozempic that like, aside from the food stuff, it quiets the food noise, but it quiets like the anxiety. Like I've been anxious this week and I'm telling you it's because I'm not, I didn't take my shot.
- [07:43]
Jackie Schimmel
I'm telling you, I think it's all connected. That doesn't sound so far fetched to me.
- [07:47]
Taylor Strecker
Okay, good. Yeah, I think, I mean, not that I'm a scientist, but it's the science is science thing for me. Like, it's definitely connected to like some sort of obsessiveness, you know, in your brain. And I think I, I fixated on the food for so long. Like I thought it was all about the food. And then on the Ozempic I was like, oh wait, no, this is, I'm just an obsessive girly. Like I, she can't shut it off. If it's not the food, it's going to be something else, you know, but at least the food noise is quieted.
- [08:13]
Jackie Schimmel
Right? Well, thank you for bringing your most anxious, hungriest self to the toast today. That's like the sort of energy that we need here.
- [08:22]
Taylor Strecker
I'm dead. I am starving. It's been a week and a day since I had my shot and literally Like, I'm gonna eat Claudia's makeup that's next to me.
- [08:34]
Jackie Schimmel
We have some snacks in the studio, so, like, as soon as we wrap. Don't worry. Claudia and I like, talk about all the time on the show, like, what we're gonna eat when the show's over. And then we like rush through the end of the show. Cause we're so hungry.
- [08:43]
Taylor Strecker
I mean, there is McDonald's next door. That was not lost on me. My favorite establishment in all of the world. So I might have to hit it up as I complain about the food issues in this country. I the street to McDonald's.
- [08:54]
Jackie Schimmel
Right? But like, you didn't put it there.
- [08:56]
Taylor Strecker
No, God did for me.
- [08:58]
Jackie Schimmel
Those golden arches calling.
- [09:01]
Taylor Strecker
Literally.
- [09:03]
Jackie Schimmel
Knowing you're working hard this morning and you're going to do a fantastic job because we have a great show for you guys. Textbook toast. Five stories. Taylor, on the ones and twos. You're probably one of the few people on earth who like, podcast as much as Claudia and I and like, talk every day as much as Claudia and I.
- [09:18]
Taylor Strecker
Yes, I. I know. We're a rare breed, actually. It's kind of crazy when you think about it, right?
- [09:23]
Jackie Schimmel
It does. How are you feeling about the state of pop cult culture these days? Like, what are you thinking?
- [09:28]
Taylor Strecker
I mean, I'm not gonna lie. I feel like I'm drowning in Blake Lively. But I'm also not mad at it. I'm kind of addicted. And I really, like, vacillate back and forth. Like, I have no spine. I am spineless. I have no, Like, I stand for nothing. Like, I like my. My opinions change. Like, with one comment that I read online, which is a horrible thing to be. But, like, I'm very back and forth on the whole Blake Lively thing. Like, I'm all over the place, but I feel like there's a lot going on with single day.
- [09:58]
Jackie Schimmel
Me too. But I actually feel like in that situation, like, the ability to be flexible in your opinions is a strength because it's so willy nilly. It is so with the wind. Like, we don't know actually anything. So I think, like, being able to say I was wrong yesterday and I'm right today and then tomorrow say I was wrong yesterday. Like, I think that's a strength in this situation. And because if you're so bullheaded about, like, this situation that we don't have, like, concretes about right, then you're just like, what are you standing for? I do not know.
- [10:27]
Taylor Strecker
The thing about me is, like, I can always say that I was Wrong. But the other thing about me is I come in with such vitriol and venom when I have my opinion, which, again, could change on a dime. But, like, I, like, I come in, like, so intense that it's really hard to walk it back, you know? Oh, God. I just, like. I mean, I just think of all the enemies I've made mostly in reality television over the years with, like, my opinions and the things that I've said, and it's really. You know, it's really uncomfortable when you're at a party and you're standing next to somebody that, like, you have just eviscerated for the last five years.
- [11:04]
Jackie Schimmel
No. And, like, with reality tv, it's like, those people always hear it. You know, when you talk about, like, Blake Lively. She's never gonna hear this. They. Well, maybe. Maybe sometimes they hear. So actually, I do feel like sometimes they hear something. But, like, with reality TV confirmed, they heard it. Like, their friend sent them to them. Like, I don't know what kind of friend would send you something where someone's talking negatively about you, but, okay, that.
- [11:27]
Taylor Strecker
Honestly, that's almost as bad. The person that tells you that people are gossiping is almost as bad as the people that are gossiping. Do you know what I mean?
- [11:34]
Jackie Schimmel
It's just, like, that's not your friend. Like, if anybody ever sends me a video of, like, someone talking about me or, like, the toast or something, I'm like, why would you send me that? Like, first of all, I don't care what that person thinks, positive or negative. I don't know that person. Why do I need to see this? And then why would you want to bring me down? Are you my friend? I don't know.
- [11:49]
Taylor Strecker
Like, why are you sending me screenshots of the Facebook page that I refuse to look at? I. No, thank you. I did not enjoy it. Really is not a friend. You know, this is so interesting. So years ago, I was, as we know, married to husband, and I was in, like, I just, like, a circle of people that I don't think maybe, like, I wasn't best for them and they weren't best for me. We'll leave it at that.
- [12:12]
Jackie Schimmel
And so diplomatic.
- [12:14]
Taylor Strecker
She really is. She's learned after a decade to fucking cool it. So Uva Hassan from Real Housewives of New York City reboot. She and I were really good friends, okay? And so we were at the Soho House having lunch with another girl who was, like, a mutual friend.
- [12:29]
Jackie Schimmel
It's just, like, fabulous story. Casually dropping.
- [12:33]
Taylor Strecker
Yeah. I mean, you know how I love to drop a name. She is a professional social climber.
- [12:37]
Jackie Schimmel
Name and a location with another friend. She has friends. They're famous. She's in a members only club. So that's what we got so far.
- [12:44]
Taylor Strecker
For the record, that was my membership, Okay? I was there under my membership.
- [12:48]
Jackie Schimmel
I'm the member.
- [12:49]
Taylor Strecker
Okay? So this girl gets up from the table, and UBA looks me dead in the eyes, and she said, amore, you cannot trust her. Don't say anything that you don't want repeated around her. Oh, and this is as I was going through the divorce, so it was like, really?
- [13:02]
Jackie Schimmel
Like, I've been friends with UBA for that long.
- [13:04]
Taylor Strecker
So my mom made friends with me with uba.
- [13:07]
Jackie Schimmel
She set you up?
- [13:09]
Taylor Strecker
My mom. My mom has been known to make all of my friends for me. It's very embarrassing. It started when I was on a trip in. At Cabo San Lucas with my family. I was a miserable little bitch. And my parents were like, we made friends for you at the hot tub. Please go out tonight and drink. You're being like Les Miserables. So this is, like a long standing thing with me. My parents making my friends for me. So it did not stop in my 30s. And she saw Uber. We were, like, laying out at Soho House, and my mom said, oh, my God, that's a model. I said, mom, stop being a loser. In New York, we don't, like, talk to famous people. Like, leave her alone. And as the rose kept flowing, Babette was like, wait a second. I absolutely need to go over and talk to this woman. And so we started talking, and then my mom was like, my daughter's gonna go through a divorce. She really needs friends right now. Like, please take care of my baby for me. And uba, like, literally took it seriously. So we were out with this girl. She got up, she walked away. UBA said, don't trust her, Amore. And I said, well, what did she say? And UBA said, I'm not repeating anything negative. I'm. You just trust me. And I'm telling you, she is not to be trusted. And I was like, that is the most, like, classy way of having someone's back without, like, completely dragging them, you know, through emotional torture.
- [14:15]
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah. And even, like, if she has any allegiance to the other girl, like, while also not telling her what you. What she telling you what she said, because, like, that's also a breach of trust, even though she's being an asshole.
- [14:26]
Taylor Strecker
True, true. So that's the way to do it. If you're gonna warn somebody, not sending somebody. The mean Comments. The horrible things that people are saying online about you, you know?
- [14:37]
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah.
- [14:37]
Taylor Strecker
But to that point. So Blake Lively, like, hearing things we're talking about. I will say I don't know about her specifically, but, like, Hailey Bieber, as far as I have heard, hears, like, literally everything everyone has to say. She's really, like, all up in the podcast. All up in, like, I mean, she's. She's dming companies. Like, she. She hears it all. Okay. She's got eyes and ears everywhere.
- [14:59]
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah. I think a lot of celebrities, like, their assistants or friends, like, listen to, like, these podcasts. I don't know how many they listen to themselves as celebrities, but, like.
- [15:08]
Taylor Strecker
Right.
- [15:08]
Jackie Schimmel
I think people in their world do. And then when someone says something about them, they share it with them. I hope more. So they would share, like, positive ones and skip over, like, negative ones. But that's how it's, like, come back to me in the time that we've been doing this that, like, I hear so and so heard what we said, but it's typically because, like, oh, my friend showed it to me. They're not like, lifelong toasters now, but they hear what we say.
- [15:31]
Taylor Strecker
Yeah, they hear the things. But I hope that. I hope now that I'm, like, on a down spiral with Blake. I don't want her to hear anything I'm saying because, like, if she goes back up again, I want to jump right on that bandwagon, you know?
- [15:41]
Jackie Schimmel
Right. I don't think she can keep up with the volume of things that people are saying and how quickly that. Especially on a podcast, I feel like it's safe because it's like, is Blake Lively seriously? This episode is gonna be an hour and a half. It's like, seriously gonna listen to that? Seriously. As opposed to, like, a tweet where it's like, she sees it in two, you know what I mean? So I feel like if you're famous, like, tweeter, like, you have an Instagram or you maybe even do, like, short form reels or tick tocks. Like, it's two minutes. She could watch that.
- [16:04]
Taylor Strecker
Right.
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Jackie Schimmel
She's not listening to this whole podcast, so we're safe in that.
- [16:08]
Taylor Strecker
We're safe in that. Okay, great. Then I'm gonna let it rip about her today. If she's in the news, I don't know.
- [16:12]
Jackie Schimmel
She is, unfortunately in the news. And I tried really hard to skip over the story, but there weren't other stories. And then it would be like, wait, why didn't I talk about this? So I know. Unfortunately, we are Talking about her. I look forward to you letting it rip some. Just, like, something new. I want to hear something new. I want to hear a new opinion.
- [16:29]
Taylor Strecker
Okay. I'm like, I have a tinfoil hat on. I am, like, really? I. I am, like, very much, like, spiraling conspiracy theory. Like, pandas, like, are actually dogs that, like, get painted and they're in the zoo, so pandas are just people in suits. So I am, like, I'm really down a rabbit hole with her, and I have some hella crazy conspiracy theories. I'm ready to dish.
- [16:49]
Jackie Schimmel
I'm so excited. I don't think you could say anything that would be more titillating to me today. So other than that, you've just been, like, a glamorous girly around town. You were just at Miami Swim Week, like, looking part delish with Stassi, who We actually have a Miami Swim Week story. So, like, hopefully we'll talk about it, but, like, she seriously looked insane. Did she have the best night of her life?
- [17:09]
Taylor Strecker
It was so crazy. Like, I was. I've, like, through Stasi, I've got the chance to do a lot of cool things, honestly, through my friendships with, like, all of my friends who are successful. You guys, like, like, last year, getting to go to the Girly Swirly. Swirly Girlies night out was such such a fun time. So there's been, like, so many cool things I've done. But I have to say, in terms of Stassi and, like, Saucy and I, we've been on tour, but there was something about this, and I didn't realize it until I was actually there. It just felt so huge. And I think it was because, too, she was, like, genuinely so scared. Like, she was the day of. I don't think I've ever seen her that nervous. And she was kind of like. Like, what am I doing? I'm a mother of two. I am walking down a Runway in basically my underwears. Like, this is insane. And then to see her go from kind of freaking out to just coming out on stage, she literally did this thing where she had her hands in the air and then she put them down her body like that. And she was just so confident and gorgeous, and she looked like she was having so much fun. And I was like, I screamed, like, the scream. I scrumpt. Like, it was, like, guttural. Like, I. Like, I. I don't think I'll ever be that excited about something ever again in my entire life. And it kind of feels weird because it was my friend just wearing A bikini, and I'm a lesbian, so that's little.
- [18:34]
Jackie Schimmel
No, it symbolized so much more. Especially, like, I feel like everybody who walked the Runway who's not a traditional model, like, was. They were breaking down barriers in some way for something. But I feel like for Sassy, it was so many different things. Like, first, like, a mother of two. And Messer isn't even, like, that old. So, like, she's the snatcher. He's under two still. So, like, in less than two years, snatched to the gods. Like, you. It could be you, too. You know, it's so inspirational for women. And then also, like, after everything that she's been through, like, her being so on top and in a peak she's never even saw at her previous peaks. Oh, my God. It's just amazing for the industry.
- [19:11]
Taylor Strecker
Yeah, it was amazing. If you can see her, you can be her. But by the way, I never, ever want to walk down a catwalk in a bathing suit.
- [19:19]
Jackie Schimmel
In my bathing suit.
- [19:20]
Taylor Strecker
Now. I don't even want to walk from my lounge chair to the pool in my bathing suit. I will jump in in a maxi dress. That's literally.
- [19:28]
Jackie Schimmel
The good news is, is I don't know if they're going to be asking us anytime soon, but just know. Just know Sports Illustrated, the answer is no.
- [19:35]
Taylor Strecker
Yeah. I want everyone listening to know that the reason why you won't see me is because I said no.
- [19:40]
Jackie Schimmel
Me, I could never.
- [19:43]
Taylor Strecker
I could never.
- [19:44]
Jackie Schimmel
Also, Sassy is filming a docu series.
- [19:46]
Taylor Strecker
Yeah, yeah, docu series. Stassi says with Hulu. And exciting things are in the pipeline. I'm gonna say it like that.
- [19:56]
Jackie Schimmel
I feel like we can expect to see you.
- [19:59]
Taylor Strecker
I think you are. I think you are correct, like, as.
- [20:02]
Jackie Schimmel
A best friend, like, I would hope that you're around your friend.
- [20:06]
Taylor Strecker
Absolutely. You know, I'm. Everyone's. I'm the number one number two. So, like, let's go. Clay Aiken. I'm literally taking that from Clay again. He doesn't need it anymore. It's mine now.
- [20:16]
Jackie Schimmel
Is that what he used to say about himself?
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Taylor Strecker
He was the number one number two. He never came in first place. He was always coming in second, but, like, notably second.
- [20:23]
Jackie Schimmel
There's something so strong about always coming in second. Like, I feel like you're. You get to, like, live your best life because second is, like, insanely, like, such an achievement. You don't have pressure of being number one. You always have something to strive towards. I feel like when people hit number one in anything, they sort of have this, like. Like, I don't want to speak like I'm on Love island, but I was about to say crash out. And I'm not going to say it because if I start talking like these morons on Love island that I'm watching, like, I'm going to be really depressed. But when you hit number one, you sort of. I'm sorry, crash out. Because it's like, well, what do I do now? Like, there's no more. Like, you sort. Like, you sort of, like, realize everything else that's, like, missing in your life. So I feel like number two is the place to be.
- [21:06]
Taylor Strecker
Yeah, it feels really good. And, like, you only have up to go, really. And if you drop down, it's just a bronze medal. Silver, bronze, like, whatever.
- [21:12]
Jackie Schimmel
You're still meddling, still achieved such greatness that people could never even conceive of in their lifetime. Like, it's enough for me. Dainu.
- [21:21]
Taylor Strecker
Exactly. Like, I. I mean, my favorite thing to say is that, like, I've been riding stassi's coattails since 2013 or whatever the fuck we met.
- [21:28]
Jackie Schimmel
So thanks, Patrick.
- [21:30]
Taylor Strecker
Yeah, thank you, man Bun, so much for your service. So, I mean, really bless that guy. I have. I have. I should really send him, like, a fruit basket or something, you know?
- [21:40]
Jackie Schimmel
No, it's so crazy that you and Stassi met because she was dating Patrick, who had a Sirius XM radio show. That's where you worked, and you just, like, met Stassi in the office.
- [21:48]
Taylor Strecker
So she actually came into Sirius to do my show, and I was ready to fight her because she represented. It was season one Stassi. She represented the mean girls that I had to deal with, like, throughout my life. So I was like, I'm going to really teach this girl a lesson. And then she walked in and she was like, I am obsessed with your show. I listen every day. I don't care if it was a truth or a lie. I was like, we are best friends.
- [22:07]
Jackie Schimmel
I mean, that's the easiest way to, like, neutralize me. Like, I love the jokes. I'm like, I love you.
- [22:14]
Taylor Strecker
We are in love now. So we had a really great interview. And then she also listened to Patrick religiously. And then Patrick, like, a couple weeks later was like, this, like, hot reality TV star girl slid into my Twitter. Dms. What is that even called? I don't even remember. It's so archaic now. But he was like. And she's like, wants to, like, she's coming to New York. She wants to go on a date. And I was like, do it. Because I'm no fool. As a professional social climber, I know what we're laying the groundwork to, us being besties. So I was like, date her. Date her. And then in retrospect, I, like, kind of feel guilty for my own selfish want and desires that she had to go through that hell with him. But you know what? I came out strong on the top, so I, like, I don't really care how we got here. Like, let's go.
- [22:57]
Jackie Schimmel
You came out strong. And also, if I'm remembering correctly, like, as just a Stasi fan, she started podcasting, like, because of her relationship with Patrick. Like, everyone just had a mic on all the time. And so that's, like, one of the first podcasters, because she quit, or she.
- [23:11]
Taylor Strecker
Was, like, gearing up to quit Vanderpump.
- [23:13]
Jackie Schimmel
And move to New York.
- [23:14]
Taylor Strecker
And so we were like, well, why don't you just get a show on Sirius? Like, they love celebrities here. And then, like, you'll just, like. And then we should do a reality TV show. It was called Radio in the City. I swear to God. There was, like, this whole pitch we went through, and it was like, yeah, you're gonna, like, you work at Sirius and, like, I'm your best friend. I, like, set up before we were even that close.
- [23:34]
Jackie Schimmel
And you guys have a. Like, anyone working with you on this or this was like, what was spinning in your head.
- [23:39]
Taylor Strecker
Yes. So her name. Shout out to Foy. Erin Foy. She's a producer. She what? She's been on Vanderpump. She's been, like, on Southern Charm. She's done New Jersey Housewives. I think she even did Salt Lake City. She does, like. She does, like, everything. And she's a producer. Executive producer on Stassi says, along with Stassi and Jenna. Shout out to Jenna, too. But so Foy and I. I know Foy longer than I know my wife. Isn't that insane?
- [24:03]
Jackie Schimmel
Wow. So then. So when Stassi moved to New York, it's like, okay. And for. We have a great producer who's, like, in with the network. So here's a great show, which, by the way, it sounds like a great show. And, like, we were robbed.
- [24:12]
Taylor Strecker
We were robbed.
- [24:13]
Jackie Schimmel
But Radio in the City.
- [24:15]
Taylor Strecker
Yes, but. Well, Stassi ended up going back to Vanderpump, so that dream was crushed. Yes, yes, but. And then we actually. There's a sizzle. I think it might literally be in, like, the underbelly of my Instagram infeed. And we tried to redo it again with myself and my best Friend from college, who also is the reason I got my job at Sirius. Nicole on the morning mashup. And so there's, like, an actual proper sizzle of us retrying to do reggae in the city. And then Sirius, like, we got so far, we had a production company, and then the mack daddy boss at Sirius was, like, now. And that was, like, as quickly as it was, like, gonna happen. It was, like, quickly done. Heartbreaking.
- [24:55]
Jackie Schimmel
Bad decision.
- [24:56]
Taylor Strecker
I have been trying to do this for decades. Like, please, it's my time to shine.
- [25:02]
Jackie Schimmel
Well, I feel like whenever people talk about Real Housewives of New York, recast, who should be on it. New show in the city, your name is always thrown out there. How do you feel about that?
- [25:11]
Taylor Strecker
I want to say that I think I'm the one throwing.
- [25:16]
Jackie Schimmel
I think I did see a clip of you, like, on Page Six, like, talking about who should be on the news.
- [25:21]
Taylor Strecker
Yes, yes, yes. I'm like, obviously, me. I'm number one.
- [25:26]
Jackie Schimmel
And I feel like it's also when people ask Claudia and I who should be on it, we're like Taylor Shrek. Like, it's literally just us, but, like, we're putting out the vibes. But I do think you would really be great on, like, Real Housewives of New York.
- [25:41]
Taylor Strecker
That means the world. It really. It means the world. It's just my dream. I do wonder, though, if I would, like, actually, at the end of the day, kind of suck, because when we did Villa, I was, like, kind. I was, like, actually terrified and petrified and, like, so aware of the cameras and, like, everything, and I just had to, like. I really wanted to, like. I just wanted to be in the moment because I'm so used to, like, broadcasting. Like, no one's listening, but there's something about a camera that really. And it's. It's not just one. It's, like, five cameramen with booms.
- [26:09]
Jackie Schimmel
It's really.
- [26:10]
Taylor Strecker
It's really crazy. It's hard not to be aware. And you know who's actually such a natural and a star? My wife.
- [26:16]
Jackie Schimmel
That is so. I could see that. She's, like, so, like, chilled.
- [26:21]
Taylor Strecker
Yeah. No. What's gonna happen?
- [26:22]
Jackie Schimmel
There's a camera. There's two. There's three.
- [26:25]
Taylor Strecker
Oh, yeah. Like, loves a camera. Mental illness. Not fair.
- [26:28]
Jackie Schimmel
But she's also, like, techie, right?
- [26:31]
Taylor Strecker
Yeah. So she also has the mind of a producer.
- [26:33]
Jackie Schimmel
She's comfortable around equipment.
- [26:36]
Taylor Strecker
Yeah, she. She just loves being with that equipment. She's like. She's back in the office.
- [26:45]
Jackie Schimmel
How long did you film Villivore? How Long were you there?
- [26:48]
Taylor Strecker
We were there for 48 hours.
- [26:50]
Jackie Schimmel
Okay. I feel like if you were there longer, you would have gotten more comfortable in front of the cameras.
- [26:54]
Taylor Strecker
Yeah. And we didn't have our phones, which was crazy. Cuckoo pants. I did not know what time it was ever. It was. It really was wild. Like, I mean, there's reality television and then there's stuff like Villa. Like, I think below decks. Like this too. Summer house is like this as well, where you are under 247 surveillance. There are mics everywhere. There are cameras everywhere. Like you. The real. The only place you really have privacy is a bathroom.
- [27:20]
Jackie Schimmel
Right.
- [27:20]
Taylor Strecker
So it's really. It was really. We got dropped into the deep end of the pool, but I think it was good. It was like boot camp, you know? So anything after that, I think is going to be like cake. We'll see.
- [27:30]
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah, I think so. That is really, really funny. Well, we look forward to hopefully seeing more of you on television. I do feel like it's in your destiny to be on television. Like all of these false starts, you know, and like, you're sort of like circling around. Like, I think. I think we're meant to see you.
- [27:46]
Taylor Strecker
It means the world. It really does.
- [27:48]
Jackie Schimmel
You're going to be great regardless of your camera shyness, your late in life.
- [27:53]
Taylor Strecker
Camera shyness, you know, and also, I just feel like. I feel like I will be misunderstood. At least I have like the toasters. My, hey girl, hey girls that, like, they'll be out in the streets defending my honor, being like, no, you don't understand.
- [28:07]
Jackie Schimmel
Like, you. You just need to get to know her and then you will love her.
- [28:10]
Taylor Strecker
Exactly, exactly. But we'll see. I mean, we'll see. And the thing too is like, no matter what you say, no matter what you do, like, your destiny is kind of at the hands of the editors. Not to like, say, like, oh, editing will make you like, like look bad. If you're saying dumb, I mean, that's on you.
- [28:24]
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah, but like, you could have fire one liners and they just like, are left on the floor and no one will ever know how awesome you were.
- [28:30]
Taylor Strecker
Yes. And if my wife becomes a bigger star than me, like, I think we're gonna have a really big problem. So everybody pray for me.
- [28:35]
Jackie Schimmel
And I really, I really could see that happening just because I feel like that happens a lot. Like two people where one is like, I'm ready, and the. And then the other person just like winds up endearing people and you just like, no, it's kills the other one.
- [28:49]
Taylor Strecker
Literally me, I mean so well, I'm at least I'm emotionally prepared for it. I'm already dealing with it in therapy.
- [28:55]
Jackie Schimmel
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So we aforementioned that Blake Lively is back in the news because she is subpoena Inc. Scooter Braun in the latest legal move to after Justin Baldoni's lawsuit dismissal. So I thought we were gonna have a break from the news after his defamation sue. 400 million dismissed. Like I thought she might take the win. But now she is subpoenaing Scooter Braun. So both Scooter and Hybe, which is his K pop corporation will serve will be served subpoenas on Thursday as first reported by deadline. A notice of the upcoming move was sent to Hybe on Tuesday. So two days ago. Per the outlet, the subpoenas will seek documents regarding crisis PR manager Melissa Nathan, who was previously named as a co defendant in Lively's ongoing case against Justin Baldoni and the work that Melissa Nathan did for Justin Baldoni. I don't know how Scooter plays into Melissa Nathan once again.
- [35:06]
Taylor Strecker
Right.
- [35:07]
Jackie Schimmel
But apparently he does.
- [35:10]
Taylor Strecker
This is where the conspiracy theory comes in.
- [35:12]
Jackie Schimmel
Go, go, go.
- [35:14]
Taylor Strecker
So I think that she is whilst fighting Justin Baldoni, which has been going on since what like December, she, I think she is now has her sights set on Taylor Swift. I think she is in my opinion can be a little bit vindictive. And I think she's very like calculated. And I think as we know or as we've heard, it seems like her and Taylor like are not in a good, good place. And it's, it's. They're doing very passive things to show us that that is the case. But, like, when Taylor Swift wants things known, she goes out of her way to make them known. If she was supporting Blake Lively, we would know it. So there's, like, there's proof in the silence. And then also with Travis Kelsey, I'm following Ryan Reynolds. That was clearly. That was just not on, like, a drunken whim. Travis was like, I'm not gonna follow anymore. Like, that was. There was discussions. I feel that tree was involved. Like, that did not happen on a whim. So with that being said, I think Blake is livid with Taylor. I think that the accusations that Blake was basically threatening Taylor to show public support for her amidst this whole lawsuit and threatening her if she did not do so by releasing her text messages over, what, the course of their friendship the last decade. I think that Scooter Braun has something to do with Taylor Swift. I think she's going to try to drag her into this. Maybe the ravings of a crazy person. But this is what I think.
- [36:41]
Jackie Schimmel
Well, I'm sort of with you that it's connected to Taylor Swift, but I sort of feel the opposite where it's like, this isn't a vindictive move. It's like, to get Taylor back. Like, hey, look, I'm going after your boy, like your enemy. Like, I feel like this is to sort of get. Not only because I'm sure she has to have better reasons, but, like, this would be a move that Taylor reads this. Like, ah, okay.
- [37:05]
Taylor Strecker
Oh, like, she's like, I'm gonna subpoena him and rip him to shreds.
- [37:09]
Jackie Schimmel
Like, maybe. And conveniently, that would help her friendship with Taylor.
- [37:14]
Taylor Strecker
Okay. Yeah. Because an enemy of my enemy is a friend of mine, and they were actually friends before.
- [37:19]
Jackie Schimmel
So, yeah, I don't think it would be a smart move for Blake Lively to, like, go all in on Taylor now.
- [37:26]
Taylor Strecker
So I saw a tick tock, and so it's like, you know, grain of salt. But this girl seems like she knows what she's talking about. And she said that Blake Lively was seen with a Spice Girls watch. And she, like, wrote this whole paragraph on her stories about how, like, basically she's a hoarder and she holds on to everything and thank God she holds on to everything and never throws anything away and holds on to everything and everything and everything. Like this watch for this party for the 90s because, like, she loves the Spice Girls. And this girl was saying that is a direct threat to Taylor Swift in her saying, I'm a hoarder. I hold on to everything. I always have receipts. Like, don't f with me, B.
- [38:05]
Jackie Schimmel
Wait, I'm. I'm sorry. This person's not well. Okay, so. So this was Blake Lively's watch, like, from when she was a child.
- [38:15]
Taylor Strecker
Correct.
- [38:16]
Jackie Schimmel
And she was going to a 90s party, and she put it on to sing Taylor Swift.
- [38:20]
Taylor Strecker
Like, I have things now when you say it back to me.
- [38:27]
Jackie Schimmel
And is it, like, known that Blake Lively is a hoarder?
- [38:32]
Taylor Strecker
I don't. I don't know.
- [38:34]
Jackie Schimmel
I could actually see her being someone who keeps things. Like, not a minimalist. I feel like even, like, images we've seen of her house. Like, I feel like, you know, she probably keeps all of her children's artwork and, like, everything sentimental. Like, she definitely has, like, pottery that she made at, you know, wine and pottery class. Like, she definitely doesn't throw that away, you know?
- [38:56]
Taylor Strecker
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [38:58]
Jackie Schimmel
But that Spice Girl Swatch is a new low.
- [39:03]
Taylor Strecker
I told you. I told you. I was like. It's like doomsday spiraling. Okay. And which I'm also. I'm also getting ready for scary things ahead, so I'm also, like, hoarding water and pickles.
- [39:16]
Jackie Schimmel
Oh, yummy.
- [39:18]
Taylor Strecker
Yeah, I. I can survive anything. I'm good. I'm ready to go.
- [39:21]
Jackie Schimmel
Do you have any desire to start canning?
- [39:24]
Taylor Strecker
Oh, that sounds amazing. What's that?
- [39:27]
Jackie Schimmel
Like, when you make your own can, like, preserves for the apocalypse, like, you can do it with a bunch of stuff.
- [39:36]
Taylor Strecker
Oh, I'm so down. That sounds way better than Vienna sausages.
- [39:40]
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah, but you could also, like, buy the cans from the store. But, like, it's a very much, like, an extreme, like, tradwife thing. Well, they also can for the season, because it's like, if you live on a homestead and you farm, but you want to save all your tomatoes for the whole year when they only are in season, like, a couple months, then you start canning all your tomatoes so that you have tomatoes for the whole year because, no, you couldn't go to the store to get them.
- [40:00]
Taylor Strecker
I could get into that. I think that I need to channel this chaotic energy into something other than believing crazy theories about Blake Lively.
- [40:09]
Jackie Schimmel
So what's your crazy theory about her.
- [40:11]
Taylor Strecker
Like, overarchingly, that she is now gunning for Taylor Swift. Like, she is, like, actively, whilst fighting Justin Baldoni, she is trying, which is psychotic, to take down Taylor Swift. Swift, if she were to do so.
- [40:22]
Jackie Schimmel
Or I just want to say, like, as a spectator, that would be interesting to watch.
- [40:27]
Taylor Strecker
I mean, I would get my popcorn ready. I am sad.
- [40:30]
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah. Like, mugs singing amongst the girlies who were incredibly close. Like, of course sad for the friendship, but I can't imagine their friendship was ever as strong as, like, what you and I consider, like, best friendship. Yes, you could, like, really turn on someone that. Like that.
- [40:45]
Taylor Strecker
But, like, do. But do we believe that she did threaten her in some way, shape or form about releasing their text messages if she did didn't, like, show more public support for her, or do we think that that's also not true?
- [40:55]
Jackie Schimmel
I kind of believe it. Especially because then the source who came out, who apparently, like, leaked it all, was her daddy, Scott Swift, literally.
- [41:03]
Taylor Strecker
So then it makes me go, okay, so like, Blake, what you said in.
- [41:07]
Jackie Schimmel
The beginning was spot on when you said, like, Taylor is so intentional. Like, she'll. She'll do, you know, subtle Easter eggs she'll do. Not so subtle. But either way, she's gonna let you know what she wants you to know. And she is letting us know that she does not support Blake Lively.
- [41:22]
Taylor Strecker
Exactly. And I don't think Blake. I think Blake. I'm not a doctor, but I think she is a full blown narcissist. And I don't think Taylor Swift is. I don't think just because you're famous, you don't necessarily need to be a narcissist, but I definitely think, like, Blake is absolutely one of them. And so even though it. It's. She could never win the fight against Taylor Swift, I think she is so blinded by psychotic behavior, betrayal, that she might just try it.
- [41:47]
Jackie Schimmel
She's off the rails, really crazy. If you are listening, don't do it. Do not come. And I would have advised, like, my advice now would be, especially with him getting his case thrown out, would be to, like, de. Escalate, back away, end it. It's ruining everyone involved, everyone.
- [42:06]
Taylor Strecker
Although I don't think Taylor, and I know she's no longer subpoenaed to testify on Baldoni's behalf. But, like, I mean, I think she would be the only one that could come out of something like this completely unscathed because she's her.
- [42:17]
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah. And aside from, you know, giving her song to the trailer, like, really, what does this woman have to do with it? But it's also crazy. So now she's subpoenaing Scooter. Like, you could just run around subpoenaing anyone. Like, hey, I want to see what you said about me.
- [42:31]
Taylor Strecker
It's nuts. It really is.
- [42:33]
Jackie Schimmel
I know what that girl said to uba.
- [42:35]
Taylor Strecker
Subpoena Uber. Consider yourself. Oh, my God, she's gonna love that.
- [42:45]
Jackie Schimmel
So, yeah, I guess we'll see. And I also now know enough to know because I used to, like, see a story like this. I'm like, well, scooter subpoenaed. He's in. But now I know, like, he could. It could be dismissed.
- [42:55]
Taylor Strecker
So, yeah, it's like, it's the girl who cried subpoenaing. Like, it's. It's all fraudulent. Like, it means absolutely nothing. I just. And especially, like you said with the dismissal, it's like, girl, just, like, focus on. I saw her in some, like, pretty, like, the rainbow outfit. Yes. It's giving Chanel, but make it allyship. Like, thank you. In the month of pride. We. We appreciate it. I guess, like, you.
- [43:20]
Jackie Schimmel
We'll take it.
- [43:20]
Taylor Strecker
Even from Blake. You know what I mean? We'll take it. But she was just. She's just like, her intolerableness knows no bounds. Like, she just, like, girl, just, like, take a. Like, hang out with your kids. Take a break. You know, you got a lot going on. And she's just. I think she's just like, if I'm out and I'm looking good and I'm looking happy and I'm smiling, everybody will think that I'm winning. And, like, she's taking this victory lap. And, like, girl, it's not a victory lap. Like, it's just, like. It's a. It's a. It's a pause for Baldoni while they kind of get their ducks in a row. I mean, it's got, like. She's like. I guess she thinks we're really stupid, huh? That we don't realize that it's. She's just, like, playing this PR game.
- [44:01]
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah. I guess sometimes, like, it works, though. Like, when you're going through something and it's like, I'm gonna put on a brave face. I'm gonna put on my best outfit. I'm gonna show them they can't bring me down. But it's like, that's not what's happening here.
- [44:13]
Taylor Strecker
No, no.
- [44:15]
Jackie Schimmel
It's like, you're coming out in your Chanel, and then you're going home and you're sending off legal letters. Like, it's just. It's like two different timelines.
- [44:24]
Taylor Strecker
Yes. She's living a double. She's living a double life.
- [44:29]
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah. Yeah. I so feel you. Even though I'm really enjoying Blake Brown Beauty, I just have to say, they sent me all their stuff, and I was just. I don't know. I'm like. I guess kind of just, like, looking to shake it up in my hair. My life. So I was like, I'm gonna do the whole kitten caboodle. And it's nice. It has a lot of fragrance. I use things that are, like, non tox, like, no fragrance added. So, like, I. I don't use, like, indulge in hair care a lot lot. So, like, I have this, like, stunk in my hair. But, like, it's kind of nice, like, and, like, some people's hair. Like, when Jesse from Salt Lake City came on the yes toast, her hair loves. So good. Oh, it smells so good. And I know, like, my hair. I don't know what my hair smells like. I don't know. Tres. My hairspray, I don't, like, have that effect on people, so I'm like. But that's what, like, that's what it takes. You have to, like, sleep with smell in your hair and, like, smell it every time you flip over on your pillow if you want to have that effect on people. So, yeah, I'm struggling.
- [45:22]
Taylor Strecker
I mean, I don't even want to know what I smell like right now.
- [45:25]
Jackie Schimmel
I'm in smell like. Like, do you wear perfume?
- [45:28]
Taylor Strecker
No, I. I'm, like, very perfume sensitive. Like, so until 33, I was, like, for a while, very into. And now it just. It just. It feels like a moment in time that should be put to rest. Okay, so I'm done with that. I mean, I wear Dove spray powder scent deodorant every day.
- [45:47]
Jackie Schimmel
Deodorant. We're so like, yeah, I don't wear a perfume. My hair smells like, you know, fragrance REH shampoo. And I wear Dove deodorant because, yes, I still use toxic deodorant.
- [45:56]
Taylor Strecker
It totally do same thing. And I probably just smell like. I. I probably smell like a subway person. Yummy.
- [46:07]
Jackie Schimmel
Yummy.
- [46:07]
Taylor Strecker
If I'm keeping it real, you know, it's New York City. It's, like, gonna be 90 degrees today. Help me.
- [46:14]
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah. Well, you look great. You would never know. And I guess that's the thing about podcasting. Like, we really. People don't really smell us. Us.
- [46:20]
Taylor Strecker
I was really. So I. I was, like, kind of panicking, and I was like, oh, no, I don't want to be the stinky girl in school today. And I was like, oh, my God, we are remote. It's okay. I can be stinky.
- [46:29]
Jackie Schimmel
You can be stinky. I actually have gotten, like, I'm dabbling in perfume a little bit recently because Dossier is a sponsor of the show, so they send us, like, all their new Fragrances. And so every time they send, like, I really take the time to smell them. And I've now noticed that I love the scent of amber and I like cedar. And so I've been collecting, like, all the ones that I like. And now when I'm going somewhere and seeing people, I'll put on a little spritz. And I'm. I'm not hating it. I mean, really enjoying it.
- [46:56]
Taylor Strecker
Send me your top picks because if you're like a sensitive smell girly, like, maybe what you like, I'll like.
- [47:01]
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah, I totally agree. Yeah. Our next story, circling back to something else we were talking about at the top of the show. Bethany Frankel is blasting a miserable, washed up Joy Behar for swiping about her fake boobs. So as you all know, Bethany Frankel stunned on the Sports Illustrated Miami swim week. She looks Runway. Taylor Shucker was there. She looked amazing. Eyewitness. And I mean, literally no one had a negative thing to say about Bethany walking down. Like, she looked insanely amazing. Her confidence was exuding. Like, there was nothing negative to say. Unless you're Joy Behar, apparently. I was shocked. I saw that Bethany's been, like, barbing with Joy ever since. Like, Joy, like, swiped at her on the View, and I'm like, just, like, shocked that Joy Behar would be that stupid. Like, like, the consensus is we all, like, Bethany looked amazing. There's nothing else to say.
- [47:52]
Taylor Strecker
Yes. And also, like, in this economy, Joy, like, we're coming for the way that women look whilst in a bathing suit. Like, I just feel like she should know not to touch that with a ten foot pole. Like, all of these women, they look beautiful. I mean, such variety, different shapes and sizes. Like, I mean, it was like, like, I. I just feel like there was so much like, it was about positivity and loving the body that you're in. So for somebody to come for the way that she looked is just. I mean, it's tone deaf.
- [48:20]
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah, no, like, we're not doing that anymore. Like, so I'm really, like, shocked that she fell into this trap and that she would, like, want to be seen this way. But basically they were talking on the show about how Bethany had made some comments that, like, none of the girls, none of us looked like this two hours prior to the show. Like, they. It took a ton to make them look that good. Just, like, being relatable.
- [48:39]
Taylor Strecker
Yeah.
- [48:39]
Jackie Schimmel
And so Joy, like, said something that she appreciated. Like, Bethany's honesty, but also she had fake boobs.
- [48:45]
Taylor Strecker
Like, what? First of all, I thought that we were like, over fake boobs, although. Oh, my God, this is crazy. Oh, my God. Okay. So not to make the story about me, but so Bethenny Frankel, I interviewed her years ago when I was at Sirius and I was so excited because I was such a huge fan. And she came in and we were talking about her book, and she had just, on the show gotten her boobs. She didn't get an implant. She got like a lift.
- [49:09]
Jackie Schimmel
That's what she's saying in her rebuttal to Joy. She had her boobs lifted and I.
- [49:14]
Taylor Strecker
Brought it up and she got very snippy with me. And I was like, clearly a fan. And like, I was like, I was obviously referencing something from the show that she had discussed. I really didn't realize. And Bethany's so like, whatever, whatever. I talk about everything. I didn't realize it was like a sensitive subject.
- [49:29]
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah.
- [49:29]
Taylor Strecker
And I remember feeling really, like, shamed and bad that. But I didn't bring up in a negative way. I was like, oh, yeah, you got like, you know, your boobs done. And she was like, it was actually a lift. She was like, like, very scolding and very snippy with me. And then her, she completely changed her, like, attitude towards me for the rest of the interview. And I was like, kind of like caught off guard and dumbfounded. And so maybe this is like a trigger point for her. And, like, Joy really stepped in it with this one because.
- [49:51]
Jackie Schimmel
But when you asked her about it, she had shown on the show that she got her boobs done. Or like, on social media.
- [49:56]
Taylor Strecker
On the show. On the show.
- [49:58]
Jackie Schimmel
So that's like their line of questioning, I guess.
- [50:01]
Taylor Strecker
I don't know. But I just, I remember not realizing that was like a no fly zone.
- [50:05]
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah.
- [50:06]
Taylor Strecker
So. But like, I maybe also in retrospect, like, that was like, whatever, 10 years ago. Like, I probably wouldn't maybe talk about a woman's body today because we just, like, know better. But definitely, definitely her storyline on the show.
- [50:20]
Jackie Schimmel
And then they go and do post show press, then you ask them about their storylines, that that's what they would hope for. I would think.
- [50:27]
Taylor Strecker
Exactly. So it's like it's her Achilles boobs.
- [50:29]
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah. And I can understand also from her perspective why it might not be like her favorite thing to talk about out. But that's. That's not fair to you. Like, you're just asking the questions based on what you saw.
- [50:39]
Taylor Strecker
Exactly. But it feels like Joy and I were like, in the same realm of her body, but, like, had different attention and intention. Is everything.
- [50:45]
Jackie Schimmel
Yes. And also yours was like 10 years ago when we weren't as enlightened as we are now.
- [50:49]
Taylor Strecker
Exactly.
- [50:49]
Jackie Schimmel
And you're, you were a younger person, whereas, like, Joy's an old lady and like, you should know better.
- [50:54]
Taylor Strecker
Exactly. I'm, I'm really shocked Joy even brought it up.
- [50:57]
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah, no, like, seriously, like text 101 things we're not doing. But. So Bethany took to Instagram to talk back to Joy. She said it's actually a lift, not fake boobs. She said. But the thing that the show really illustrated was that women my age and older women of a certain age can live their lives freely with happiness and with Joy. And that we're not washed up, miserable older women. Lol. She shared that she had a breast lift 15 or 20 years ago because she used to have large breasts that were like saggy and floppy in high school. But aside from the discussion of her body, she felt sorry for Joy. She said, quite quote, she doesn't seem to be living her life with any Joy. Sadly, Joy is painting the picture of the older, seemingly miserable, washed up woman that all of us are trying to show that we are in.
- [51:41]
Taylor Strecker
Yikes.
- [51:42]
Jackie Schimmel
Mic drop.
- [51:44]
Taylor Strecker
Honestly, round of applause. It's unbelievable. She did a very, very good job with that one. Yeah.
- [51:49]
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah, she did. It was seriously like, you know, and that like, teed up to perfection because, like, this is such low hanging fruit. Like a woman, someone who's bashing on another woman. Especially when Bethany had like just one of the most triumphant moments for like, women, older women being comfortable in your bodies, like all, like, all good things. So I'm so glad she stepped up to the plate and hit it out of the park because that needed to be said.
- [52:13]
Taylor Strecker
Yeah, she just like, I mean, she just scratched like a cat in heat. She got her good.
- [52:20]
Jackie Schimmel
She got her good. Yeah. So good for Bethany. Do you see, do you interface with her at all at the show?
- [52:29]
Taylor Strecker
No, because, like, backstage was very like tight security. Because, I mean, I, I did pop back there for one little second, but I kind of wasn't supposed to because, like, everybody's naked. You know what I mean?
- [52:43]
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah.
- [52:44]
Taylor Strecker
So. But yeah, I didn't see Bethany. I feel like. Okay, another example of somebody who I've definitely talked about, talked mad about over the years, but I don't think Bethany takes note of that stuff. I don't think she knows. I think she's oblivious to that. No.
- [52:56]
Jackie Schimmel
And I think also she doesn't like, absorb everything, hold a grudge. Like, I think Taylor Swift like remembers everything. Negative thing any celebrity has ever said about her, and she'll never forget. But I think for Bethany, she's, like, a little bit of a thicker skin and, like, a little bit more like rubber that, like, bounces off of her. Like, maybe in the moment affects her, but she's not holding on to eight years later.
- [53:14]
Taylor Strecker
Totally. But, yeah, I did. I did not get to interact with her, but her and Stassi did cross on the Runway, so they, like, got to do, like, a little thing together that they were, like, planning, so they had, like, a lot of FaceTime. So don't steal my friend Bethany.
- [53:28]
Jackie Schimmel
Amazing moment for women. Amazing moment for Bravo reality stars. Like, doing really big things.
- [53:33]
Taylor Strecker
I know. It was. It really. Like, that's the thing is, like, I have a lot to say about Bethany, but not when it came to any of this. Like, I. I mean, just tens across the board.
- [53:40]
Jackie Schimmel
Oh, do you have a lot to say?
- [53:43]
Taylor Strecker
Oh, I just feel like she is not nice. I can't. That's. That's what she's just like. Like, my.
- [53:52]
Jackie Schimmel
Like, based on what you've seen in person. Person.
- [53:54]
Taylor Strecker
And I've also heard, like, you know, like. Like, she's like, the epitome of, like, don't meet your heroes. Like, you will not get the Bethany of your dreams. Like, nine times out of ten, when you meet Bethany, you know, she's.
- [54:06]
Jackie Schimmel
That, to me, doesn't sound surprising. I feel like if. And I. If I imagine, like, meeting her, like, at a store and I. I went up to her, which I don't think that I would but say that I would. I imagine she would be, like, very rushed, like, very matter of fact, not, like, you know, the warmest thing. Like, some people pride themselves on, like, being so nice to people in public. Like, yes. And meanwhile, that doesn't. Like, they might actually be an asshole, but they, like, know that that matters. I think Bethany is, like, actually so authentic that she's like. I'm not gonna pretend like, this is my favorite, right?
- [54:35]
Taylor Strecker
And she's like, I'm busy. Leave me alone.
- [54:36]
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah, right.
- [54:37]
Taylor Strecker
Yeah.
- [54:37]
Jackie Schimmel
Right.
- [54:37]
Taylor Strecker
Yeah, I guess. I mean, she's an authentic queen.
- [54:40]
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah. I have, like, a little bit of respect as long as she's, like, not nasty, but, like, if she's, like, short and just, I. I kind of, like, respect it because, like, honestly, it's probably how most people feel. But other people are pretending because they, like, are scared of being canceled for being rude to a fan, right?
- [54:55]
Taylor Strecker
Yeah. Okay, fine. I will give her that. But, like. Like, I. Like, I said, like, I I've like dragged her for years because of that serious interview. And now here we are and you're saying nice things and I'm like, honestly, I love her. She's my queen. And like I like stand and like worship at the feet of Bethany Frankel.
- [55:10]
Jackie Schimmel
Okay, well now I'm like, well, I don't gay. I actually started following her on Instagram like a few months ago. So like I wasn't getting all her like reviews and stuff because I'm not on Tick tock. So like I hadn't been seeing everything. So now I'm like in on it. She actually just reviewed. She went to this place in Southampton and like she was like, this is the most amazing market I've ever been to. And I just like want to say, not to make it about me, but last summer I went to that market. It was like their opening summer. And I said to Claudia, because, you know, I have a dream of opening up like a little shop and market called Stranberries.
- [55:38]
Taylor Strecker
Yes.
- [55:38]
Jackie Schimmel
And I went to this place, it was called Farm and Formation. I was, was like, claudia, it's Stranberries. Like I don't need to open up my place. Like this is the place. They have homemade sourdough. They were playing Luke Combs. They had like once upon a time pouches for the kids. Every brand that they had was like what I buy for my family and then something. They had like these pre made salads that just look like the best salads you've ever had. I'm like, this is Stranberries. Like I, I don't have to go to work. And so then she just posted a video. She discovered this place and she did like this whole long review on it. She was like, this is the most amazing market I've ever been to in my entire life. They had all the like Japanese food stuffs that she likes. And I was like, okay, yeah, we're aligned.
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Taylor Strecker
Yeah, I said it first.
- [56:18]
Jackie Schimmel
I. I discovered it. It's called Strawberries.
- [56:20]
Taylor Strecker
Yeah, that's called farming for months. Wait, where is it? I'm going out to that mountains, the fourth.
- [56:26]
Jackie Schimmel
It's Southampton, just like off of Main Street.
- [56:28]
Taylor Strecker
Really? Is it better than Round Swamp?
- [56:31]
Jackie Schimmel
I don't know if I ever made it to Round Swamp.
- [56:33]
Taylor Strecker
Girl. I don't even know if you need to. It's crazy up in that like you walk in it is the scariest place to shop. There are no price tags on anything and everything is 115.
- [56:44]
Jackie Schimmel
Expensive. And it's so funny because the one day that I went there like Some people in the house were sick. So I bought some soup. And it was each pint was 17 and I. And I came home, I'm like, this is 17 soup. You guys better enjoy it. And then she literally, in her video was like, like $17 soup.
- [57:03]
Taylor Strecker
Literally. Not her coming for all of your. No, no. She. No.
- [57:07]
Jackie Schimmel
But I never even said anything publicly. Like, we just actually had the exact same thoughts. Also, like, not them not raising the prices with inflation. Yes. J Berries go off the nail blow.
- [57:19]
Taylor Strecker
I die. I'm going to have to stop there on my way to East Hampton for sure.
- [57:24]
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah. Are you going to be Hampton's girly this summer?
- [57:27]
Taylor Strecker
So I'm going out for the fourth to stay with Hannah Burner Fun. And then we lily pad from Hannah to East Hampton to stay with my sister and brother in law.
- [57:36]
Jackie Schimmel
And lily pad means like, you know.
- [57:38]
Taylor Strecker
Just like cup completely. Is that like a blade? Like, it means go.
- [57:44]
Jackie Schimmel
Okay. Is that like a new mechanism? Like a seaplane?
- [57:49]
Taylor Strecker
We. A seaplane? Yeah. Can you imagine?
- [57:52]
Jackie Schimmel
From East Hampton to Southampton, Literally.
- [57:55]
Taylor Strecker
What a waste of everyone's money. Like, that would be insane. And I know. I just feel like when it comes to the Hamptons, I have to like, change my vernacular to fit in, you know? And I feel like lily patty. Lily padding feels like very Hamptons.
- [58:08]
Jackie Schimmel
Wait, I love that I'm going to lily pat until I crash out.
- [58:12]
Taylor Strecker
And then like, maybe I'll just like lily pad back to you guys. Like, I want to maybe swing by and say, like, how do you do?
- [58:20]
Jackie Schimmel
Please do. We're going to be women I of leisure this summer.
- [58:23]
Taylor Strecker
Like, I love it.
- [58:24]
Jackie Schimmel
Let's go to lunch.
- [58:25]
Taylor Strecker
Are you gonna be out there like the whole summer?
- [58:27]
Jackie Schimmel
We're gonna be out there the whole summer. We are working way less, but we will still be doing weekly pop culture episodes on Patreon. Patreon.com the toast. If you are missing the toast in one original recipe all summer long, patreon.com toast going to be a part delicious affair. Plus, Claudia's birth story is up now. So head to patreon.com toast so you don't miss a beat.
- [58:45]
Taylor Strecker
She's a pro. That was impressive.
- [58:48]
Jackie Schimmel
Really had to promote the Patreon yesterday and the birth story went up. So I just really wanted to let everyone know because the episode is so amazing. And Claudia's backpack, like, she's on the pod video and audio both on the Patreon. Like, if you're missing Claudia, which we all are, like, it's literally there.
- [59:00]
Taylor Strecker
It's like, I Saw the clip that you guys posted, and it's so. She's so cute. And also that when she was doing her, like, makeup, she's like, I don't remember how to do my makeup. I love her. I just. She makes me lol. I don't.
- [59:13]
Jackie Schimmel
And now she's like, new mama coaches. Like, new mama Turdy.
- [59:16]
Taylor Strecker
I love it.
- [59:17]
Jackie Schimmel
I just feel like she's gonna unlock, like, all this new Turdiness, and she already has. Like, you can really see it on the episode.
- [59:23]
Taylor Strecker
And I love that, like, Turdi is still in there. Like, Hope taught, you know, everyone, that, like, you are still you when you become a mommy, you know?
- [59:29]
Jackie Schimmel
So true. And that's when people, like, who are, like, ask me, like, how's Claudia? Like, the first thing I say is, like, she's still Claudia. Like, she's in a good way. Like, she's so funny. Like, she's not, like, lost losing her mind or anything. Like, she's got her humor, and now it's just, like, she has all this, like, new stuff to joke about. I feel like people can, like, feel it in her content, too. Like, she's so happy, she's so herself, but she's, like, so in a whole new world.
- [59:51]
Taylor Strecker
Totally. We were texting, like, after, you know, Ruby was born, and it was. It's so. It's crazy because it's like, I know better. Like, I have friends that have children, and they're still cool and awesome, but I guess there was maybe a small piece of me that was just, like, scared selfishly. Like, will Turdy be the same? And from that first text, I was like, oh, Turdi, Lou Freebush is still thriving in that body. You know, she didn't. She didn't push the free bush, you know, with the baby.
- [60:21]
Jackie Schimmel
She didn't see the bush.
- [60:23]
Taylor Strecker
Exactly. But they did shave the bush. And for that, I'm sorry, you know, humiliation.
- [60:29]
Jackie Schimmel
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- [66:22]
Taylor Strecker
Oh, I love the Razzie Awards, Zachary.
- [66:24]
Jackie Schimmel
I love the Razzie Awards. Dakota Johnson's making news because she was on Amy Poehler's podcast talking about how Sandra Bullock texted her when she won a Razzie. So Dakota Johnson won a Razzie for her role in Madame Web. It received several Razzie accolades that year, including Worst Actress, Worst Screenplay, and Worst Picture. And Sandra actually voice noted her and invited her to their recurring brunch meetings for her Razzie winners. So she said to Amy Poehler, she said, I recently actually exchanged texts. Well, I got a voice note from Sandra Bullock because I don't know if you know, but I won the Razzie for Worst Actress. Amy Poehler was like, oh my God, you did. Congrats. There's a lot of good people who have won that, Dakota said. I asked if they'd send it to me, but Sandra Bullock sent me a voice note, being like, I heard you're in the Razzie Club and we should have brunch. We should have a monthly brunch because I guess she won that the year that she won the Oscar as well. It was in the same year, I think. Yes, very famously, Sandra Bullock won an Oscar and a Razzie in the same year for different works.
- [67:31]
Taylor Strecker
No way.
- [67:32]
Jackie Schimmel
She won the Oscar for Blindside and she won the Razzie for All About About Steve, I think, which was just like a moronic rom com.
- [67:42]
Taylor Strecker
I never saw it.
- [67:43]
Jackie Schimmel
No, of course not. Dakota was like I freaked out getting this message from her because she's so iconic to me as, like, a movie star. I was like, oh, my God, that's just so crazy.
- [67:51]
Taylor Strecker
So this is like the epitome of, like, when life gives you lemons, like, make lemonade. But I guess the lemonade was just, like, literally delivered to her.
- [67:58]
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah, this is just this. I like Dakota Johnson so much. This makes me like her more. I feel like people who play into the Razzies, especially the Razzies, don't really clown on movies that aren't successful or people who aren't successful. It's like these big budget movies, like the Flop of the Year, like, let's call it what it is. It's just funny. It's not that serious. So I. It means a lot to me when, like, these big stars acknowledge the Razzies because they're one of my favorite things in Hollywood.
- [68:23]
Taylor Strecker
So Dakota, I feel like my first experience with her was like, I guess, 50 shades of gray, which was not my favorite. I'm a famous prude. Famous. So I, like, struggled with that book. I remember I was ringing on a plane and I started to feel tingles in my tingy, and it made me, like, deeply uncomfortable. And it was like, this is inappropriate. And I put the book down, and then Tay made me go see the movie with her. Cause she is a perv. And I was like, I simply. I can't. So I was, like, not into her. Cause I associated her with sex, and that made me feel nervous and scared. So I was kind of like, like lukewarm. But over the years, like she was when she was on snl, she. She was so funny, and she doesn't take herself seriously, and she is, like a snarky queen. And I, I, I'm obsessed with her. And like, the last year or so, I'd say it's really major.
- [69:10]
Jackie Schimmel
No, every time we get to see a bit of her personality, like, it's so winning. And I feel like it's also so unexpected because she's a serious actress and she's a nepo baby, and so, like, she doesn't have to have this amazing person. She's beautiful too. So it's like, you don't also have to be, like, so funny and self aware and like, like pop off. And it's so refreshing every time that she does. So I just feel like she should do more interviews. Actually, she's doing a good amount of these sorts of interviews because I feel like we got to see the side of her and if she did too much. Like, if someone made her the host of something or she did her own podcast, like, we'd get fatigue. Whereas right now it's like this, like, unexpected thing. We're like, oh, yeah, Dakota Johnson is a real one. Forgot that for a second.
- [69:46]
Taylor Strecker
Do you think that the Nepo baby part of her is the reason why she's kind of so, like, self deprecating and honest? Because she's like, so, like, confident and comfortable?
- [69:54]
Jackie Schimmel
I feel like when you're a Nepo baby, like, in any realm, like, it could really go in two ways where it's like you have all of these things and that just makes you, like, confident and comfortable because, like, you don't have to worry so much.
- [70:04]
Taylor Strecker
Right.
- [70:04]
Jackie Schimmel
But then other people, like, it makes them so insecure. I'll never measure up. I'll always be in the shadow. And they're the worst. Those are the worst people. So I think it's two paths. And she probably has all this confidence from always just being, like, the coolest and not having to, like, worry about. About things that other kids might have had to worry about. She probably had other issues. But, like, I think this is like, nepotism done right, where it's like, you give your kids, like, this great confidence and an amazing life.
- [70:31]
Taylor Strecker
Yeah, she's. She's one of my faves, for sure.
- [70:34]
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah. Even though I, like, don't really watch anything she's in. I feel like her picker is just not like my picker.
- [70:41]
Taylor Strecker
Yeah, same. Like, I watch nothing she's in, but I adore her and she's my favorite actress.
- [70:47]
Jackie Schimmel
She's gonna be in Verity though, and I'm gonna watch that. That is like. How do you read Verity? You don't read smut is what I've gathered from what you previously said.
- [70:54]
Taylor Strecker
I don't read good in general. Okay.
- [70:57]
Jackie Schimmel
You don't just discriminate against smut.
- [70:59]
Taylor Strecker
That's. That's why Ben Softer celebrity loves me so much. I am illiterate.
- [71:04]
Jackie Schimmel
Well, Verity is like, when people get into reading, they're like, what should I read? Verity is always everyone's first choice and, like, for a reason. Because it's so good. It's like a thriller, but it's also smutty and it's twisty and, like, you don't see it coming, especially if you're a newer reader.
- [71:17]
Taylor Strecker
Okay, okay, I will. Verity.
- [71:20]
Jackie Schimmel
Verity. I'm not saying you should read it. I'm not here to give you homework. So I'm saying that movie is like the number one book of modern women of modern times. And they're making it into a movie.
- [71:31]
Taylor Strecker
I might try to read it this summer. Floating in my inflatable hot tub.
- [71:34]
Jackie Schimmel
Dakota Johnson and Anne Hathaway. Yeah, it would be a great. Like, if you do want to read this summer and you are looking for a book, like. Yes, I would recommend various. Anybody's first book. Like when they're learning to read, read.
- [71:45]
Taylor Strecker
I'm still working on Goodnight Moon. It's very difficult, but once I Above.
- [71:50]
Jackie Schimmel
The age of 18, I would recommend Verity. But I think the movie, like, it's. And also Josh Hartnet is in it. I feel like you would like him.
- [72:00]
Taylor Strecker
Oh, yeah. Oh, he was in M. Night. Shyamala is like one of my favorite directors. I don't even know if I'm saying his name right. Classic me. I'm probably saying it wrong, but he was just in Trap. Harsh Hartnet. Harshness Trap. Yes. It is so good. It's M. Night's most recent film and it's about. And I'm not giving away the premise because, like, if you see a preview, like, this is what the preview is. It's about a serial killer who's a father and he takes his daughter to like a concert, like all of like, Olivia Rodriguez or, you know, Taylor Swift or whatever. And. And he is basically like being hunted by the Philadelphia PD like, while at the concert.
- [72:43]
Jackie Schimmel
Oh, wow, that does sound good. I thought you were gonna like Josh Hartnett from, like, back in the day, you know?
- [72:49]
Taylor Strecker
Yeah, he was. What was his, like, big stuff. I feel like I never saw like, Pearl Harbor. Never saw that. Which is crazy. I've never seen that.
- [72:57]
Jackie Schimmel
It's good even. I've seen it.
- [73:00]
Taylor Strecker
Should I watch it?
- [73:00]
Jackie Schimmel
I don't know. I. I don't know. Like, I watched it and I appreciated it, but I was like, something about it didn't, like, hit for me. I can't explain it.
- [73:10]
Taylor Strecker
Did you want that time back in your life?
- [73:13]
Jackie Schimmel
No, no, no. I didn't hate it at all. Like, and it's a good movie and everyone was like, so attractive. But I don't know why you would think it's like historical fiction. I like, I love, like, that time. I don't love that time, but I like learning about World War II.
- [73:29]
Taylor Strecker
Right. I just love that war time. I know what you mean.
- [73:37]
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah.
- [73:38]
Taylor Strecker
Thank you. Yes, yes, yes.
- [73:39]
Jackie Schimmel
I'm very interested in it. And I don't know, maybe I feel like if you didn't watch it, like, when it came out, it's like, not as good watching even like the way we make movies, the way the movies look has changed. So it just like feels sort of dated.
- [73:51]
Taylor Strecker
Was right the time, the time has passed.
- [73:54]
Jackie Schimmel
But Claudia watched it recently and she really liked it. It.
- [73:56]
Taylor Strecker
Okay, maybe I will. Oh, God. The last time I watched a movie with Claudia, I watched Love actually with her. And she what? What a stinking pile of garbage she thought that movie was. And honestly, seeing it through somebody's new eyes, she was not wrong. Like, that movie does not hold up in society today. Like, it is all sorts of problematic.
- [74:15]
Jackie Schimmel
It's kind of a mess.
- [74:16]
Taylor Strecker
It's honestly the worst movie ever.
- [74:19]
Jackie Schimmel
The way I remember it. Like I, I, I never had a problem with it, but in thinking about it, it's like it's all over the place. I think that's the point. But like, get it together.
- [74:28]
Taylor Strecker
Yeah, like, like we need a grown up on set. Like who is running this show, this dog, pony show.
- [74:35]
Jackie Schimmel
Lots of movies where it's like ensemble. They're all loosely connected. Like Valentine's Day, New Year's Eve.
- [74:40]
Taylor Strecker
Terrible.
- [74:41]
Jackie Schimmel
Just I think they did stop. Stay stopping.
- [74:44]
Taylor Strecker
Yeah, they should razzie all of those.
- [74:46]
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah, they should. Should. Thank you for bringing it back to the story. And now for our final story. Sabrina Carpenter is surprising fans with a new album release date, cover art, and a Rolling Stones profile. Like, Sabrina's back on the circuit. I'm in shock because Short and Sweet came out less than one year ago and now she has a new album coming out called Man's Best Friend. And she just released her new single Man Child, which I actually haven't had a chance to listen to yet. But I've heard it's like amazing peak. Sabrina.
- [75:16]
Taylor Strecker
Oh, it's so good. So I haven't listened to the whole song, but I saw on, I guess it was Instagram scrolling like clips of the new video and the song. So I got a feel for it. She, it stopped me in my tracks. Like, she is so adorable. There are no words. She's one of my absolute favorites. I die for her. Like, I am uncomfortably obsessed with her.
- [75:35]
Jackie Schimmel
Me too. And she just came out. She's on the COVID of Rolling Stone. She looks insane. She's technically in the nude, but like hair covering her butt and her breast, breasts and thigh highs. Yeah, you should check it out because we don't get a lot of iconic imagery these days, especially as covers. Like, not like we used to. And this is an iconic cover.
- [75:54]
Taylor Strecker
I'm calling it Rolling Stone. Okay.
- [75:57]
Jackie Schimmel
She's on the COVID of the summer double issue.
- [75:59]
Taylor Strecker
Oh my God. Anything she's buying or. Yeah, anything she's selling, I am buying. Hands down. Like, I am so obsessed with her.
- [76:07]
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah. The photos on the inside are insane. She's kind of ragging a little bit of a different look because the hair is, like, longer and, like, wavier. Less ringlets. Yes. She's still, like, very ethereal looking like a fairy in a garden. Like, dreamy.
- [76:22]
Taylor Strecker
Total fairy in a garden. I also love. She's doing, like, at least in the first song that she released. In the video, she's doing like, a very. Oh, she is naked. Naked. Yeah. Oh, my God. Okay, so. Whoa, wait, the pruda meat's coming out the COVID Are you looking at the COVID Yes.
- [76:39]
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah. Naked with.
- [76:41]
Taylor Strecker
I mean, fully socks, but her hair is covering her body.
- [76:45]
Jackie Schimmel
It's very tasteful.
- [76:46]
Taylor Strecker
It's very functional. Yeah, it makes me nervous. You know, I told you about prudes. So now wait, I'm spiraling.
- [76:52]
Jackie Schimmel
I didn't realize you're such a prude.
- [76:54]
Taylor Strecker
It's literally crazy. Like, where's it coming from? Catholic to my core. I mean, I like, it just. I got ruined at a very young age, and I was raised by parents and that claim and I believe them to be virgins when they got married. And I mean, they got married when they were, like, young. And they actually got married, like, the first time, like a secret wedding, secretly, I mean, obviously, because they, like, wanted to do it. And then they got married, like, for realsies, like, you know, at my, like, grandparents, through my parents wedding because my mom grew up in Fort Lauderdale. But, like, total squares, total prudes.
- [77:26]
Jackie Schimmel
That's so funny and very unexpected of you. I would just assume that, like, you're brash sex talking, like, you know, wouldn't shy away. But, like, I respect it because I am a prude as well. But I actually think you might be, like, prettier than me.
- [77:36]
Taylor Strecker
I think I am prude tonight. You know what I mean? I need to start, like, a support.
- [77:39]
Jackie Schimmel
Group for myself and like, like, like prudent, proud. Like, I feel like prudes get such a bad rap. Like, even on this season of Love island, there was a girl who came on and she didn't want to kiss anyone. That, like, the first day they come on, they have to choose their partner just based on looks. But you get to go up and kiss. The girls get to choose two boys that they want to kiss. They make out, and then they choose who which one they want to stage with. They have known these boys five minutes and they're making out with them. Like, pick up grinding, humping, like, slobbering on these guys. Like, and everybody did it except for this one girl. She gave like, she got two kisses on the cheek and then she chose like, the guy that she just thought was like, the cutest. And that was like her thing. Kiss on the cheek. I mean, she was literally there three days. And then they do like this in the challenges. Every challenge is like, you have to slob it. Seriously, it's. You would die. Because even I'm like, clutching my pearls. I'm like, I can't believe this is television that they're making. Like, it's. It's pornography, literally. And I can't believe that these girls, like, do it. And every challenge also has, like, some degree of like, food involved. Like, like ping the face and then slobbering kiss. And anyways, so she, like, does one challenge where all the girls. You have to go. It's a baseball challenge. They go to all four bases. There's a guy on every base and like, you, like, slide into the base, like, you know, I don't know, grinding on your way there.
- [79:01]
Taylor Strecker
No, I want to die.
- [79:02]
Jackie Schimmel
Make out with the guy and you have like a popcorn in your mouth and like, and then you go to the next space and then see four and then the person on the home run, who you get to choose who's there. Like, you do like a big movie. Make out with like, straddle hump, like, literally have sex. And for that challenge, she like, finally, like, hooks up, like, kisses everyone, like, in a, like for like goes all in. And it made the guys, like, see her differently. Like, they were more interested in her, which is just like, so crazy. And then she still got sent home, like, oh, yeah.
- [79:35]
Taylor Strecker
Oh. She, like, stuck to her guns and then she's finally like, fine, I'm giving it. I'm. Can you imagine the pressure she was getting from production?
- [79:41]
Jackie Schimmel
I know, but, like, I thought it was so nice to have someone who like, thought that that was like, not their. The way they wanted to go about things. And I don't judge other girls, girls who do do it, but it's just.
- [79:51]
Taylor Strecker
Like, same the show.
- [79:53]
Jackie Schimmel
The structure of the show is like, just. Why is every challenge, like, make out, like, seriously dry hum, make out everything but showing me your penis and vagina, every guy in the house, it's the craziest thing, man.
- [80:08]
Taylor Strecker
I don't even know if I could actually. I feel like I watched one season of it, but I haven't been back. And now I'm like, reminded of the reasons why, like, yeah, this prude lives inside of me. Like, I will say Sierra from Summer House and Lexi both. I liked how they both came in and they were like, listen, I don't want to sleep with a guy unless I'm in a committed relationship. And it was, like, the craziest, most foreign thing ever to say it. It's like, listen, if you are, like, a sexual girly and you, like, are.
- [80:33]
Jackie Schimmel
Liberated, go right ahead.
- [80:35]
Taylor Strecker
Let that coochie breathe all over the place. You go, Glen, Coco. I support that. But there's some of us who are a little bit more, you know, know, precious with our parts and, like, we have sex. I am in love with you. We are getting married in my brain. So, like, I. I love that we have representation of prudence. Prude pride. I love it. I love it.
- [80:54]
Jackie Schimmel
Pride. We need more representation of prudence, and we also just need to have the same energy for people who, like, want to remain prudent as we do for people who want to be sexually liberated, which is, like, always celebrated and so great. But then, like, the prudes, like, get it, like, prove is like, a negative term. I don't think so.
- [81:09]
Taylor Strecker
Yeah, we should be proud. Proud and prude.
- [81:11]
Jackie Schimmel
Prude and proud. Title.
- [81:16]
Taylor Strecker
I'm. Wow. There's never been a better title I've ever been attached to. I'm. I am. I'm floating. I'm flying.
- [81:24]
Jackie Schimmel
We're taking back our power. Taylor's checker. Thank you so much for doing this episode with me. I love you so dearly. I feel like we haven't even scratched the surface, and we need to catch up further.
- [81:34]
Taylor Strecker
I will. I'm see you in the Hamptons. I'm going to lily pad over to.
- [81:37]
Jackie Schimmel
You this summer at Stranberry Berries.
- [81:39]
Taylor Strecker
It's done. I'll bring gifts from the stranberries.
- [81:42]
Jackie Schimmel
17 suit.
- [81:44]
Taylor Strecker
I got you, girl.
- [81:46]
Jackie Schimmel
I love you dearly. Where can everyone follow you, listen to your show, your podcasts, hear you every day?
- [81:52]
Taylor Strecker
So I am daily. So Taste of Taylor. It's free wherever you can get. Go. It's. It's available where every. What do they say? It's available where.
- [82:00]
Jackie Schimmel
Anywhere you can get your podcasts.
- [82:02]
Taylor Strecker
Yes. So Taste of Taylor. It's daily. And then please, please, for the. The love of God, follow me on Instagram.
- [82:10]
Jackie Schimmel
Give it to her. Give it up to her. She's really been working on her content.
- [82:14]
Taylor Strecker
Duck. I'm stuck at 1:22, so aylorschrecker. It would mean the literal world to me.
- [82:21]
Jackie Schimmel
And she's a great follow and she's about to have a great, glamorous summer.
- [82:24]
Taylor Strecker
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I love you. This was so much fun. Thank you so much. Like, truly honored.
- [82:28]
Jackie Schimmel
Love you so much. Thank you. And I will see you tomorrow. Love ya. Bye.