Putting The Celebraciòn Back in Viernes: Friday, April 25th, 2025

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Toast – "Putting The Celebraciòn Back in Viernes"

Episode Title: Putting The Celebraciòn Back in Viernes
Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry
Release Date: April 25, 2025

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1. Time 100 Gala and Blake Lively’s Impactful Speech

The episode opens with Jackie and Claudia delving into the recent TIME 100 Gala, highlighting Blake Lively as the standout star of the evening. They discuss Lively’s emotional speech, where she bravely shared her mother's harrowing experience with domestic violence.

Claudia reflects, “Blake felt the need to share her mom's story in order to make an impact, saying, if we name it, we change it.” [19:59]

The hosts critique the strategic nature of Lively's activism, questioning its authenticity amidst her other public endeavors. Jackie adds, “I’m not buying what she’s selling. I don’t care one iota that she did not mention it and that she focused on her hair care.” [22:27] This segment underscores the tension between public personas and genuine advocacy, leaving listeners to ponder the sincerity behind celebrity activism.

2. Billy Ray Cyrus and Elizabeth Hurley’s Unexpected Bond

Transitioning to lighter fare, Jackie brings up the surprising relationship between Billy Ray Cyrus and Elizabeth Hurley, sparked by their collaboration on the 2022 movie "Christmas in Paradise." They explore how Hurley reached out to Cyrus during a tumultuous period in his personal life, leading to a rekindled friendship.

Claudia expresses skepticism, noting, “I just know there’s, like, something so smelly going on here, like, physically smelly. I can’t ship these two.” [27:57] Despite the initial doubts, Jackie remains intrigued by their on-screen chemistry and potential off-screen romance, prompting listeners to stay tuned for future developments in their relationship.

3. Sophie Turner’s Relationship Breakup Sparks Speculation

The hosts then turn their attention to Sophie Turner, who is reportedly ending her two-year relationship with Peregrine Pelligrino Pearson. Claudia muses, “I feel like some relationships are meant to last a season and they heal you and they take you from one place to another.” [31:22] They analyze the possible reasons behind the split, such as differing life goals and the pressures of maintaining an aristocratic lifestyle. Jackie humorously debates the feasibility of Turner embracing the traditional roles associated with her ex-partner’s family estate, adding levity to the discussion.

4. Royal Pains Reboot: A Nostalgic Return or Missed Opportunity?

Jackie and Claudia delve into the reboot of the classic medical drama "Royal Pains," now titled "Royal Payne." They discuss the show's premise, set in the Hamptons, and the casting choices, including Mark Furstein reprising his role alongside Margot Asher and Olivia Asher.

Claudia confesses, “Everyone remembers when Jackie had her circlage surgery...He is like a Jerry Seinfeld. You don’t see Jerry Seinfeld out here doing, like, Hallmark movies with Billy Ray Cyrus.” [34:04] This segment highlights their mixed feelings about the reboot, balancing nostalgia with skepticism about its potential to capture the essence of the original series. They encourage listeners to watch the new episodes while maintaining a critical perspective.

5. Influencers and the Rise in Shark Attacks: Fact or Fiction?

In a controversial take, the hosts discuss a recent study published in the Journal Frontiers in Conservation, which attributes the increase in shark attacks to influencers encouraging reckless interactions with these marine predators for online clout.

Jackie summarizes the study, saying, “Contrary to sharks' portrayal as mindless killing machines in movies, researchers argued that many of the so-called attacks were defensive responses to being poked and prodded by online clout seekers.” [44:14]

Claudia vehemently disagrees, stating, “I’m sick of influencers being blamed for everything. Sharks are dangerous predators. You need to stay alert and don’t swim with periods.” [48:36] The duo debates the validity of the study, pointing out that only 5% of attacks were defensive responses, thus challenging the study’s headline. They express frustration over the oversimplification and scapegoating of influencers, advocating for a more nuanced understanding of shark behavior.

Queenie and Weenie of the Week

In their beloved segment, "Queenie and Weenie of the Week," Jackie and Claudia award their chosen celebrities for exemplary or questionable behavior over the past week.

• Queenie of the Week: Claudia honors Lexi Wood for her elegance and graceful handling of narrative shifts on "Summer House." Jackie also nominates Stassi Shorter for her triumphant return to the mainstream with "Vanderpump Villa Season Two," applauding her resilience and continued influence despite past setbacks.

  Claudia remarks, “She could have been like a little nastier to some of the girls. And I think that she doesn't want to threaten like having beef with them.” [49:56]

  Jackie adds, “She is just that interesting and that funny and that cool.” [51:14]

• Weenie of the Week: The award goes posthumously to Susan O'Malley and Barbara Lippert for their attempts to cancel "The Golden Bachelor," a move the hosts deem unfair and noteworthy.

  Jackie sarcastically comments, “I think that's really beautiful.” [52:39]

  Claudia emphasizes the significance, stating, “They actually tried to cancel the Golden Bachelor. We must commemorate this moment with a Weenie of the Week award.” [52:29]

Conclusion

Jackie and Claudia wrap up the episode with reflections on the week's discussions, reiterating the importance of maintaining personal authenticity amidst external pressures. They encourage listeners to tune in next week for more engaging content and their signature "Queenie and Weenie" segments.

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Notable Quotes:

• Claudia Oshry on Changing Friday Vibes: “If we name it, we change it.” [19:59]
• Jackie Oshry on Blake Lively’s Authenticity: “I’m not buying what she’s selling.” [22:27]
• Claudia Oshry on Billy Ray and Elizabeth’s Relationship: “I just know there’s, like, something so smelly going on here.” [27:57]
• Jackie Oshry on Sophie Turner’s Lifestyle: “She wasn’t influenced at all this year, which I didn't realize that.” [25:58]
• Claudia Oshry on Influencers and Shark Attacks: “Stay back, beware, be scared.” [48:27]
• Jackie Oshry on Weenie of the Week: “That is awful. One half of Jesse Solomon.” [52:39]

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This episode of The Toast offers a blend of celebrity news, personal anecdotes, and critical discussions, all delivered with the hosts' signature humor and candor. Whether you're a regular listener or a first-time guest, Jackie and Claudia provide insightful takes that keep the conversation lively and thought-provoking.

Transcript

[Claudia Oshry]

Good morning, girlies. It's the toast. It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host. It's your favorite show.

[Jackie Oshry]

The Fast 5 things you need to know.

[Claudia Oshry]

We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast.

[Jackie Oshry]

They sound amazing.

[Claudia Oshry]

Welcome back to the toast and happy Friday. Congratulations. Yes.

[Jackie Oshry]

Baby.

[Claudia Oshry]

Baby.

[Jackie Oshry]

Happy vierness. Oh, the feliz viernes.

[Claudia Oshry]

You know what's so funny is obviously we took Spanish growing up, like, in school, and one of the first things you learn are the days of the week. And so many of the days of the week, like, slap in Domingo. Like, don't come looking for me on Domingo.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, this is so Tuesday.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's so Tuesday. Friday being vierness, I want to say doesn't work for me. Like, it's not the vibe. Vierness Lunas is so Monday.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like moon day Salado.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like Salvador. I'm partying it up at the club. Like Sabado Domingo Miercoles.

[Jackie Oshry]

Hump day Thursday.

[Claudia Oshry]

The only one I feel like really doesn't match the vibes of the week is vierness. It doesn't feel celebratory enough.

[Jackie Oshry]

Well, maybe we could put the celebration back in vierness the way that's beautiful, Jackie, that the linguistics intended.

[Claudia Oshry]

I don't know. I just. Not. I just don't. Like, Like, I don't think it's a good word, and I think we need to change it early.

[Jackie Oshry]

Title idea. Putting the celebration back in Vierness 1000%.

[Claudia Oshry]

Jackie and I actually had a long and hard discussion yesterday about titles.

[Jackie Oshry]

A long and hard discussion about titles, everybody. Every day.

[Claudia Oshry]

We do, but, like, when you look at the other podcasts in the charts, like, and. And anytime we've had a meeting with, like, Spotify or YouTube, they're always like, listen, your titles. We love the creativity, but you guys need to be a little bit more strategic. Like, SEO wise. Like, putting in the topics, being like, Real Housewives, Cabba Scandal.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, like, like, can't you Scandal that is like an outlier that will never. The type of SEO never happened again.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, they always tell us to be.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, Blake Lively, right?

[Claudia Oshry]

And Justin Baldoni and like, sorry, no, it's going to be Mr. And Mr. Maldonado from here on out. Like, so we know we're, like, hindering our own growth because we refuse to.

[Jackie Oshry]

Get in line in our defense when there is a day where there is news that we know people are tuning in for Taylor on the field when we know that, like, that's what everyone's like super bowl recap. We always include it in the title. Yesterday, we went through all the stories. There was nothing that was going to make someone tune in who wasn't already tuning in. So, like, let's be ourselves and put.

[Claudia Oshry]

The celebration back in vierness.

[Jackie Oshry]

What was our title yesterday?

[Claudia Oshry]

What was our title yesterday?

[Jackie Oshry]

I know we had a hard time. Oh, Wood V. Solomon.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, that was good.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, not everybody watches Summer House, so we are meeting some people, but maybe some people who watch Summer House who don't listen to the toast saw that and clicked on it. Probably not, but it's kind of hard.

[Claudia Oshry]

Basically, what we're trying to emulate to our listeners, it's like, we make it look easy, right? We look fabulous, glamorous. Like, you see Lifestyles of the Rich and the Famous. You don't know how hard this job is.

[Jackie Oshry]

And there are a lot of shows like ours that, like, do the title with the subjects in the title, and they. They do a good job, but it's just like, for some reason, we can't do that. Like, their titles would not work for us.

[Claudia Oshry]

But also, like, where else are you going to find a show where the title is Mr. Mr. Maldonado? Like, it's kind of what sets us apart. I'm sorry. No.

[Jackie Oshry]

And they bring me so much joy. So, like, what about us and our serotonin levels? And we need, right, to be able to do this show?

[Claudia Oshry]

If we just be executives at YouTube care about that.

[Jackie Oshry]

If we just become cogs, like, John Stamos opens up, actually.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, wait. I was just on the Good Guys podcast. I found out the craziest thing about John Stamos.

[Jackie Oshry]

I heard something about John Stamos also recently.

[Claudia Oshry]

I feel like maybe it was the same thing.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay, tell me.

[Claudia Oshry]

You know the way that, like, John Mayer has become, like, a modern member of Grateful Dead, right? Like, people who have passed. That's what John Stamos is. He's the drummer for the Beach Boys and has been for, like, 30 years.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, that's not what I. That's news to me.

[Claudia Oshry]

And they were like, you don't know that. I was like, no, I never heard that before. But, like, when they go on tour, it's John Stamos. When John Stamos was on Full House, he was the Beach Boys drummer.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's so interesting. Good for John Stamos.

[Claudia Oshry]

I know, but sound off in the.

[Jackie Oshry]

Comments is opening up.

[Claudia Oshry]

Ben and Josh were like, you don't know that. I'm like, no. And they were trying to make me feel bad. Sound off in the comments. Did you know that?

[Jackie Oshry]

No. And that's not sounding like the John Samos fun fact that I learned. But I don't remember what it was. But it wasn't anything like, groundbreaking. Maybe something like, he lives in Australia. Something like that. Like, he's Australian.

[Claudia Oshry]

So you were like, hanging out with somebody extremely boring. I don't.

[Jackie Oshry]

It was probably in the comments, so that's really nice of you to say.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, speaking of the comments. Okay. George Clooney stands. Rise up. He dyed his hair for a role. Okay.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's still ugly to anything. Like, I saw that comment on so many irrelevant posts.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, no, people really wanted me to know. And let me tell you, I know. And I had a feeling when I was saying it. I'm like, it's because I know he's in this big Broadway show. It's called like, good. It's called like, hard night, good morning or something.

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't give a rip.

[Claudia Oshry]

And I was like, it's probably for. But I wanted to drive the point home. Like, I don't care. You're still ugly with your hair. Like, I stand by everything that I said except yes, correction. He didn't change it like, just to look young. He changed it for a role. Okay, like, put on wig.

[Jackie Oshry]

No. And like, maybe that role should have gone to a younger man with brown hair.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Like, if you have to dye the gray out of your hair, maybe the role's not for you.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's too old for you.

[Claudia Oshry]

They would never give it to a woman who had like gray hair and the woman needed brown hair. They'd give it to a brown haired, younger woman.

[Jackie Oshry]

Brown haired girl.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, my God, I'm so happy it's the weekend. I also just like, really looking forward to not getting out of bed. It's getting harder to get out of bed and it's getting like, thank you so much for not even, like, acknowledging my outfit. Like, I'll acknowledge it. That the sort of elephant in the room. The Lynette Scavo coated outfit.

[Jackie Oshry]

I saw it on your Instagram before I saw you on my screen. So I had time to process it. Like, and you knew better than to bring it up.

[Claudia Oshry]

And.

[Jackie Oshry]

And yeah, I could. I just knew. Cuz also, you've told me to stop talking about your looks.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes, I did.

[Jackie Oshry]

Sometimes I'm seeing you for the first time when I open up my laptop and I'm like, claudia, where'd you get those pants?

[Claudia Oshry]

Right now it's too hot to care about anything other than my own comfort.

[Jackie Oshry]

Where did you get those pants? I like them. I like.

[Claudia Oshry]

I want to tell you. I have them in two. I have the exact same pair. One that's like a sort of Capri, and one that goes down to the ankle. I'm sure you saw me wearing the ankle ones a few days ago. They're the best pants. I own everything. Everything. Maternity that I've gotten from Amazon is the best thing that I own. Like, do you remember the cheaper the better?

[Jackie Oshry]

Never mind. I'm not going to say what I'm just gonna say. Let's say it's gonna dunk on you. But, like, you don't.

[Claudia Oshry]

But dunk.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, remember when you said, like, you weren't buying maternity clothes?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. And I don't consider buying from Amazon maternity clothes. Like, that's the point I'm trying to make. These pants were, like, $11.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay.

[Claudia Oshry]

But, like, no, I'm not going to do, like, a fancy maternity line. Like, unless I have some sort of a gala, which nobody's invited me to.

[Jackie Oshry]

There aren't even that many fancy maternity lines. But there are, like.

[Claudia Oshry]

I thought you were gonna say there aren't even that many galas.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, there aren't that many invitations.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, no. Amazon I consider safe. Like, I'm really not about spending money on this particular era of my life.

[Jackie Oshry]

But you have to be closed. Like, you have to walk out of the house.

[Claudia Oshry]

But I have to be closed. Correct. And therefore enters the chat. Amazon. I'm three seconds away from ordering something from Tebow.

[Jackie Oshry]

You should look at ASOS Maternity. Same price point. Okay, okay, okay, okay. But I'm gonna. I'm not gonna tell you what to do anymore.

[Claudia Oshry]

You're just gonna step. You're gonna lay down the bomb in the same way.

[Jackie Oshry]

You can't learn the lesson of listening to me. I can't learn.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, my God.

[Jackie Oshry]

The other day, I was trying to get you to do something. What was it?

[Claudia Oshry]

It was listen to a song and.

[Jackie Oshry]

You were so scared.

[Claudia Oshry]

I wasn't scared, like, at all. I listened to it as you literally told me we were on FaceTime. I listened to it. I did a Spotify share play. I listened. I actually didn't, like, vibe with the song immediately and to. To my own horn. You also told me, like, a couple FaceTimes ago when I, you know, opened myself up and told you my secret truth about Sam Hunt. You were like, also listen to this one. I literally listened to it, added it to my light songs, and I was listening to it. Yesterday I made my facial. Like, I do listen to you, bitch. Sorry. The song you suggested wasn't good.

[Jackie Oshry]

Resistant, by the way. The song. No, I'm not.

[Claudia Oshry]

Both times I listen to you.

[Jackie Oshry]

The song is objectively an amazing song. It's called. It wasn't Count My Blessings by Seth Schluter. I don't know who that is. Counting My blessings. It's just, like, a beautiful song about.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, I didn't think that it was so beautiful. Like, and that's. And I think that I'm entitled to feel that way because not one week prior, I actually liked a song that you recommended.

[Jackie Oshry]

But anyways, just what I was gonna say, like, just, like, you don't take heat, and just, like, trust me and, like, just listen to me when I say things the first time.

[Claudia Oshry]

But, see, I don't think that's necessarily the truth anymore. I feel like I've been so, like, pad. So what?

[Jackie Oshry]

Pad.

[Claudia Oshry]

I'm wearing one today, right now, in.

[Jackie Oshry]

This moment, after months. I've been telling you to wear one.

[Claudia Oshry]

Since, like, Jackie, I didn't need a pad until I needed it. And then I took your advice, like.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay, well, anyways, my lesson is, like, maybe I should just stop trying.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, my God. Victim.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay. To voice things on you.

[Claudia Oshry]

Sure, sure. Yeah. That's the lesson now.

[Jackie Oshry]

You come into it in your own time, in your own way.

[Claudia Oshry]

Sure, sure. Okay. You want to be a martyr? Go for it.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, no, I'm not being a martyr. I'm saying I'm the foer, and maybe I shan't be the foer.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, my God. You're being such a victim right now. Like, literally not. I'm the fo.

[Jackie Oshry]

I see myself as the villain who wants to be the.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, you're not painting yourself in the. You're kind of being, like, very Jesse Solomon right now.

[Jackie Oshry]

You're Jesse Solomon with your song.

[Claudia Oshry]

You're Jesse Solomon. You are.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, the thing is, half the time, I love him more than I find.

[Claudia Oshry]

I'll just be a robot. Like, that's literally Jesse Solomon.

[Jackie Oshry]

Half the time, I love him more than I've ever loved anyone on reality tv. So when you say that to me, I'm gonna think about that half of him, and I'm gonna take it as a compliment.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's actually a. An amazing exercise in perspective. Like, I actually love that. That's actually really inspiring.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's beautiful, Jackie. We have a fabulous episode for you guys today. It's Friday, which means we're, of course, wrapping up the week with Queenie and Weenie, which is one of my favorite things Ways to wrap, and I'm actually excited to share mine. I don't think you guys are expecting interesting. And it just. When it comes to Queenie, Weenie, expect the unexpected.

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't know. When it comes to Queenie and Weenie, expect us to, like, resay everything we said all week.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, but it's actually. Isn't it interesting? Like, what sits with you all week?

[Jackie Oshry]

Well, actually, my. I'm glad we're doing cleaning the weenie this week, because mine is about a topic that we have not discussed that it's not, like, story worthy, but it's Queenie worthy, so. Okay, Stay tuned for that new discussion coming soon.

[Claudia Oshry]

I love, like, doing, like, big teasers for Queenie and Weenie at the beginning of the show.

[Jackie Oshry]

How would you describe your Queenie and Weenie, the elk of, like, in terms of discussion?

[Claudia Oshry]

It's like, a deep cut from this week.

[Jackie Oshry]

A deep cut from this week. Very good, very good.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, I'm gonna say it, and you're gonna be like, what? You're gonna have to hear it a couple times before you get the joke, you know?

[Jackie Oshry]

Very good, very good.

[Claudia Oshry]

So I don't have any qualms about, you know, doing the damn thing. Unless there's anything else you wanted to chat about. No.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'm making a beef stew today, so that's, like, my big news of the day. I found these beautiful beef chunks at the supermarket, and it's so hot.

[Claudia Oshry]

How can you make a beef stew?

[Jackie Oshry]

No, I, I. It's not, like, what I was thinking of making, but I saw these beautiful beef chunks. They were labeled.

[Claudia Oshry]

I know.

[Jackie Oshry]

And they were, of course, kosher. And at the supermarket, they never have had these chunks before. And it said, beef cubed for stew. And so I thought, well, the universe is telling me to make a beef stew.

[Claudia Oshry]

Ben had a similar experience. He saw, like, a short rib at the kosher grocer he just couldn't say no to. So, like, I got home last night, I was sweating. I was like. I walked home for my facial, and I was like, seriously? I got home, and I was not okay. I was so hot. And he's, like, huffing and puffing over this big cauldron of short ribs, and I was like, yay. Oh, my God. I didn't want to be rude. He started it so early in the morning, and he was, like, so excited. He's like, I tried it. It's. You're gonna love it, like, and he was so excited, you guys. I was sweating while I was eating it. Like, it's too hot for a short rib.

[Jackie Oshry]

He make like how did he cook them? Was it like.

[Claudia Oshry]

It was like in the Dutch oven slow cooked all day. It looked like brisket. It was like falling off the bone. It was delicious.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yum. I made short ribs once and it's just a fatty cut of meat. I didn't know.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes, yes, it was quite fatty. I think Ben made a video.

[Jackie Oshry]

So if you're gonna fatty like 15.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, I think it was fat like me. If you are looking for a recipe, I think Ben has a video coming out soon.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'm excited to see what you ate. I love knowing what codgers ate.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, coaches was eating good except you know, I'm really taking my, my cut off time really seriously. Like I stopped eating at 6:30 but I was up at 5 in the morning having a bowl of cereal. Like I was so it wakes. I'm so hungry but I refuse to eat anything. No after dinner because I will wake up choking my own vomit.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's so true. You can't.

[Claudia Oshry]

But I'm so hungry. So it's like I'm either waking up choking on my own vomit or I'm waking up a couple hours later cuz I'm so hungry.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

I think hunger that wakes you up is like another level.

[Jackie Oshry]

I know, but I think that that's better than like the choking person. I think it is too personally. What are you guys having for dinner tonight?

[Claudia Oshry]

You know what, we were just discussing it. I saw this girl on Tik Tok. Actually, you know what, I don't want to say what I was about to say. I'll take it back. It's. It's not tittle, it's not titillating or controversial. I just. I'm gonna spare you guys, you know.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like because it's boring.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, I just don't want to say it. Like I can't explain it.

[Jackie Oshry]

Can you just tell us why? Like why you don't want to say it?

[Claudia Oshry]

No. Like there's not even a reason. It's just like, like I don't want to say it Stone.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like because it's like long winded and boring or.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, no, no. It's weird. Like I'll tell you about it later, you know.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay. Do you think I'll understand why you didn't want to say it?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, okay.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay.

[Claudia Oshry]

Let's just move on, you know?

[Jackie Oshry]

Let's move on.

[Claudia Oshry]

And if I look especially tired is because I was up so late being such an active participant watching the next game. Like I was Being such a good wife.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, yeah. We're talking about how much TV was on last night. Let me tell you what I watched none of it. Because I went to sleep at Harry o'clock last night because he slept in.

[Claudia Oshry]

My bed the best. I got so much.

[Jackie Oshry]

I got like 11 hours of sleep.

[Claudia Oshry]

If anybody wants to know what happened in Game 3, I could tell you who won the next one. The Knicks.

[Jackie Oshry]

Tldr who? The Knicks won.

[Claudia Oshry]

They won an away game, but they had just lost a home game. So it's two one. I think another next game is maybe tomorrow night or something. Once again, Jordan woods, his boyfriend, like carrying the whole team. It's just shocking to say. I didn't see her on TV though last night. That was a mess.

[Jackie Oshry]

Sounds like you'll have to go to a game.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, I'm okay.

[Jackie Oshry]

Without further ado, here are the fast five stories that you need to know.

[Claudia Oshry]

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[Jackie Oshry]

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[Claudia Oshry]

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[Jackie Oshry]

No. And also like, that's not even that mean.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, we like kind of like him. I'm having a bubbly today because they ran out of Lacroix. And the last time I had a bubbly, I had actually one of the worst days of my Life. Just, like, I wasn't feeling good, like, everything was going wrong. I don't want to blame the bubbly, but if I have a bad day.

[Jackie Oshry]

Today, like, we'll say, yeah, once fool me once, shame on me.

[Claudia Oshry]

Correct.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay, correct us. Posted.

[Claudia Oshry]

Will do.

[Jackie Oshry]

Our first story. Speaking of galas, the TIME 100 gala was yesterday.

[Claudia Oshry]

Another gal I wasn't invited to.

[Jackie Oshry]

Because you are not on the TIME 100 most influential list. Because you are actually influential.

[Claudia Oshry]

Another list I was left off of.

[Jackie Oshry]

Therefore you couldn't have been on this list.

[Claudia Oshry]

This event, though, is always, like, partialicious and stuff, like, always happens. Obviously. When I think of the time 100, I think of when Taylor wore that purple, pink, and yellow dress and I think she performed Love Story on the piano.

[Jackie Oshry]

Or when Amy Schumer, like, laid on the floor in front of.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, I happen to, like, really? Especially the older I get, I, like, really have learned to like thinking Schumer is the funniest person ever. That was not her funniest moment. I can't lie.

[Jackie Oshry]

You know, you win some, you lose some. You have to take chances.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right.

[Jackie Oshry]

100 of the shots you don't take.

[Claudia Oshry]

1,000%.

[Jackie Oshry]

Blake Lively is kind of the headline news of the event because she attended with Ryan and she's, you know, the talk of the ton.

[Claudia Oshry]

And they gave a speech.

[Jackie Oshry]

She gave, like, a little speech from her chair.

[Claudia Oshry]

Chair. It wasn't like a formal. I thought it was weird when she was, like, standing at her table with a microphone.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Because I heard she gave a speech for. So I was like, oh, they. She gave a speech. Oh, that's kind of like major. And then I saw the speech, and so she was, like, standing at her table. Makes me feel like other people, like, stood at their table and gave speeches. Probably other influential recipients. But we're only here.

[Claudia Oshry]

She was a titan.

[Jackie Oshry]

She's a Titan. She was in the Titan.

[Claudia Oshry]

Titan of the year for her charitable work.

[Jackie Oshry]

And then she gave a speech, an emotional speech, where she talked about her.

[Claudia Oshry]

Mother, who was in attendance. Correct.

[Jackie Oshry]

Was in attendance. And she said that her mother was the victim of the worst crime someone can commit against a woman. She said that she had concealed her undeserved shame throughout her life. Blake felt the need to share her mom's story in order to make an impact, saying, if we name it, we change it.

[Claudia Oshry]

Now, the philanthropy she was highlighted for and the activism she was highlighted for in the Time article and what put her on the list was with the naacp. So she wasn't referencing that. She was talking about some more activism. Obviously, that feels so pertinent to the conversation everyone was having about. It ends with us, which is a film about domestic violence. And she was accused of, you know, not taking the issue seriously and not talking about it as a major conversation during the press and just, like, promoting her hair care line. So everything she does now I have to look at. As, you know, strategically, she's propping herself.

[Jackie Oshry]

Up a microscope like no one else is at the current moment. Yes.

[Claudia Oshry]

Except for Haley Bieber.

[Jackie Oshry]

Well, she's always under the microscope. It's not about the moment, but she's.

[Claudia Oshry]

Also, like, prepping for this big trial, and no matter who the jury, you're supposed to have, like, a completely unbiased jury, but with something so big and so scandalous and so famous, like, everyone's going to come in with, like, a couple of preconceived notions. So you're also playing for the court of public opinion. And so I have to look at it through that lens, which I hate, because I do believe, like, what she said was true and. And real and honest. But she's playing a part. Right. So it's Justin Baldoni, but he's not doing public events at this current moment. I thought she looked great. I thought she spoke great. I'm not some, like, I'm not who she's trying to convince. Right.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

I'm, like, praying she's right.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, you got a lot riding on this.

[Claudia Oshry]

I do.

[Jackie Oshry]

Kind of, like all of your.

[Claudia Oshry]

Don't say credibility.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, I wasn't gonna say that. That's literally not what I was gonna say.

[Claudia Oshry]

But, like, what are you gonna say?

[Jackie Oshry]

I can't think of the word.

[Claudia Oshry]

So me.

[Jackie Oshry]

There is not a word for what I'm thinking of.

[Claudia Oshry]

I still feel, like, fairly good about my take on the whole situation. Now, I know everybody hates mine, but I have yet to see something, and I am open to changing my mind. Like, I'm not being stubborn just because I, like, put my fork in. In the ground on Blake.

[Jackie Oshry]

I feel good about my relative neutrality and having left camp Blake. I feel good about where I stand. And so I also feel like a speech like this is. Is not really for me because there's nothing that she could say in the speech that's going to change how I feel about whatever happened two years ago. And I think she did, like, reference.

[Claudia Oshry]

That the scandal very vaguely just being like, you know, well, also, we're talking.

[Jackie Oshry]

About violence against women and. And her mother. Like, I think it's all sort of tied together, but for Me, it's not tied together. Like, this speech is a separate thing. I know maybe she obviously has to be a little more calculated in everything that she says and does. So maybe talking about this issue in this way is favorable to her case in some way. Not for me.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, not for you. But I think for people who. One of the biggest. What her detractors are saying about her most frequently is that she did this big press tour for the. The film about domestic violence and never once spoke seriously about domestic violence. Highlighted the issue and just made it all about her and her outfits and her flowers and her hair care company and so forth. For this feels like a direct response to that critique of her, which is one of the biggest.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yes. And as someone in the neutrality camp, I don't give a rip about that, because that's how the book was marketed. That's like, that's what the studio has told. Yeah, that's what the cast was told. And I think that it would have been the right strategy had Justin then not, like, came out and made it so serious and somber. We know the movie is about that, but, like, I didn't think that the press 20, like, I do not care one iota that she did not mention it and that she focused on her hair care, which is apparently, like, really fabulous. I just want to say I was getting my haircut with mahogany and she had Blake Brown beauty.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes, me too.

[Jackie Oshry]

She used some for me.

[Claudia Oshry]

She asked her about it.

[Jackie Oshry]

Really great.

[Claudia Oshry]

I. I agree. I also think people glaze over the fact that, like, there is a full memo that we saw that the studio told the cast not to that. That the tone of the press tour should be positive, enlightened, fun, female friendship, whatever. That was, like, a strategic move. So Justin then, like, being so serious about it, like, makes everybody else look so bad.

[Jackie Oshry]

And as someone who has left Team Blake and I think there's so much inconsistency. Like, honestly, I'm not buying what she's selling. I. I would like to ask Justin, like, why did you do that? Why, when everyone else was given this directive, why did you then and go. And.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's like a hero complex, Right. It's like, such an easy way to make yourself, like, to endear yourself.

[Jackie Oshry]

Right. Of course he wouldn't admit that, but, like, I would like to know what he would say to that. Like, why?

[Claudia Oshry]

What?

[Jackie Oshry]

Because you couldn't not be serious about this. That's your studio, your Wayfarer Productions.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right.

[Jackie Oshry]

You guys sent out that memo. So why would you go and make everyone else look stupid.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right. And I think as a viewer, slash, somebody who read the book without having any idea what it was about, I actually think it was a better. More. Enjoy. Enjoy, Enjoy.

[Jackie Oshry]

Enjoyable.

[Claudia Oshry]

Enjoyable. Oh, my. Thank you. Stroke. Enjoyable experience going into it. Sort of blind. Right. Like, you don't know that the book is about to take this turn, and so you kind of put yourself in the position of the reader. Right.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, yeah, it was kind of the.

[Claudia Oshry]

Of Lily, the protagonist. Yeah. Sorry. Not the reader. Thank you. So I understand why that was what they wanted for the film, but I don't understand why he then, like, made it his mission to do the opposite.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, agreed. So it looks like everyone had a fun time at the party.

[Claudia Oshry]

It always looks like a nice gala. Like, they. They spend good money on it. Good people show up.

[Jackie Oshry]

Well, the people who they. They think are the most influential. So they kind of list.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

No.

[Claudia Oshry]

So if I worked at time, like, I would just make it all the people I want to meet. Because no matter how famous you are, if you're on that list, like, you do go to the gala, like Taylor Swift went. So I would make the list, all the swirlies that I want to meet.

[Jackie Oshry]

And just know, like, Taylor Swift is not influential because she was not.

[Claudia Oshry]

She's not on the list. Right.

[Jackie Oshry]

She wasn't influential at all this year, which I didn't realize that.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Are you ready for our next story? A little update with Billy Ray Cyrus and Elizabeth Hurley.

[Claudia Oshry]

Really?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. We're getting some backstory on how they got together. Billy Ray Cyrus received a war message from Elizabeth Hurley when he was down in the dumps from his divorce with his ex wife, Fire Rose.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, she slid into the gm.

[Jackie Oshry]

She texted. She texts him.

[Claudia Oshry]

So how does she have his number?

[Jackie Oshry]

They worked on a movie together in 2022 called Christmas in Paradise. They only did a few scenes together, he said, but the couple times we were in the same scene, there was chemistry there. We just laughed. And it was at a time when I wasn't laughing a lot. So then him and. And Fire Rose are divorcing. And Shaggy.

[Claudia Oshry]

Where did he share this?

[Jackie Oshry]

He told Apple Music countries the Ty Bentley show got.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay, so the radio show.

[Jackie Oshry]

A radio show. And maybe if I had. Maybe if Spotify was down and I was listening to country radio on Apple this morning, I would have heard it.

[Claudia Oshry]

You would have heard it.

[Jackie Oshry]

So the Texas from the mysterious center, he didn't have her phone number. It said, hey, it looks like life might be a little tough and just wanted you to know I'm in Your corner. You've got a friend in your corner. So he didn't have her number, so he responded, who is this?

[Claudia Oshry]

That's such a brutal response to, like.

[Jackie Oshry]

Such a heartfelt message when she reveals her identity. He said he thought of all the people to reach out to me in that second that maybe I needed most this friend who made me laugh. So they said they had lost touch for two years, which is when he was married to fire Rose. After the movie and then reconnected when she sent this text message.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, I want to get on board and think that this is cute, because if it was anybody else, like, I would. But I just know I saw what I saw. Right. I know there's, like, something so smelly going on here, like, physically smelly. I, I, I can't, I can't ship. Like, I'm kind of at this standstill. Like, in another lifetime, I would be obsessed with these two. He, that devil sl. Skank Molly. Like, I'm sorry, I can't get on board.

[Jackie Oshry]

Poster for the movie. They did Christmas in Paradise.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, what was it called?

[Jackie Oshry]

Christmas in paradise, starring Elizabeth Hurley, Billy Ray Cyrus and Kelsey Grammer. I absolutely have to watch this movie.

[Claudia Oshry]

Kelsey Grammer.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. It's kind of star studded. And, and it's so crazy that of the two leading.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, I see. Yeah. Like, Elizabeth Hurley is clearly, like, stuck between Kelsey and Billy, too. Oh, my. What is Watch.

[Jackie Oshry]

We could see him the way she did on set, and maybe he was, like, presenting himself well at the time.

[Claudia Oshry]

Kelsey Grammer does so many things that are incongruous with, like, who he is, which is Frasier. Right. Like, he's like a Jerry Seinfeld. You don't see Jerry Seinfeld out here doing, like, Hallmark movies with Billy Ray Cyrus. He, like, forgets how famous he is sometimes. I mean, even being on the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, like, that was really crazy. Even though he was, he was on there very strategically, he was on there.

[Jackie Oshry]

To dump his wife.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Like, in her big red dress at the Tonys. But I find that, like, so many of his current bookings don't align with that of Frasier. I feel like he lives a very expensive life. He, like, needs the money.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's giving broke.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. I mean, he did have to Give Camille Grammer $30 million, like, half of his Frasier money.

[Jackie Oshry]

I know, but it's like Jennifer Tilly's husband gave her 10% of the Simpsons and everyone, like, lived happily ever after.

[Claudia Oshry]

Except that he died. So.

[Jackie Oshry]

But, like, until he died, like, he didn't die because she got, like, that's just a separate.

[Claudia Oshry]

Although the Simpsons, I do feel, is in an entirely different league than Frasier.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay, but, like, Frasier's in the same league as Friends, and they are all sitting pretty for the rest of their lives.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes. Although Friends, I think, has entered the 21st century quite well. Like, new people are always watching it. I've never even seen Frasier. I don't think, like, Gen Z binges Frasier and that. It's, like, a show that a certain generation. It's a show that the, like, a certain generation loved, but it's not timeless.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Anyways, it's surprising that Elizabeth Hurley, like, gravitated towards Billy Ray on set and, like, not Kelsey. She's having.

[Claudia Oshry]

As opposed to Kelsey. Listen, you can't put Elizabeth Hurley in a box.

[Jackie Oshry]

I have to watch this movie. Like, if I. If I see it, like, on any streamer, like, when I'm casually looking, like, I will watch it.

[Claudia Oshry]

You will watch it out.

[Jackie Oshry]

But, like, I think that's the only way this relationship will make sense to me. But it also makes me feel like they were dating when he performed at the inauguration. Maybe she did that, like, because she's British. Like, maybe she did it on purpose and, like, got him all tips.

[Claudia Oshry]

Revenge for 1776.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Like, this one's for King George.

[Claudia Oshry]

I'm just looking up where you can stream Christmas in Paradise. Oh, it's on Amazon Prime.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, and I believe the Roku channel.

[Jackie Oshry]

I will.

[Claudia Oshry]

It feels like it would be, like, a Roku original.

[Jackie Oshry]

I can't find my pen. It needs to go on my content plate.

[Claudia Oshry]

Jackie, if it's what's meant for you, we'll find you.

[Jackie Oshry]

My pen.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, the movie.

[Jackie Oshry]

I can never find my pen.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's kind of the problem with you going analog, correct?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. You know what? I think I have to write it on my phone just because it's too important.

[Claudia Oshry]

Unfortunately, everyone wants a necklace like mine.

[Jackie Oshry]

So that's how they got together. Stay tuned for how they're doing. I'm still in genuine shock about this.

[Claudia Oshry]

Me too.

[Jackie Oshry]

And that's latest.

[Claudia Oshry]

And I'd love to hear from Kelsey Grammer.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yes. Did he sense this on the Chemistry? Next story. Love seems to be dead. Sophie Turner is sparking breakup room.

[Claudia Oshry]

I know.

[Jackie Oshry]

With her aristocrat boyfriend, Peregrine Pellegrino Pearson Peregrine. After nearly two years of dating, she has unfollowed him on Instagram. She also shared a cryptic post on stories that simply read tutu pasa which translates as everything passes.

[Claudia Oshry]

Now, while I am devastated, I do feel okay, because I really thought. And I can't believe it's been two years. I thought this was, like, a rebound type of thing. Like, I didn't think of it so seriously. But you know what? She got a nice relationship. Right. After what seemed to be, like, a tumultuous divorce. So I feel like some relationships just, like, are meant to last a season and they heal you and they take you from one place to another. And that's what Pellegrino was.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Yeah, I guess that makes sense. I think they had a lot of fun together.

[Claudia Oshry]

I loved that, like, life for her, you know, the aristocratic life. I hope she met some other eligibles while in that circle and now has found her next boyfriend.

[Jackie Oshry]

But I just don't think, like, as she thinks about how she wants to live out her days, I don't think being Mrs. Pellegrino, like, holed up on the English countryside, like, hosting dinner parties is what she wants to be doing.

[Claudia Oshry]

It was a relationship that had an expiration date.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Like, because eventually he'll have to, like, settle down and get boring and, you know, tend to his family's estate. And she doesn't.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right. And the whole.

[Jackie Oshry]

For that, I mean, they're just, like, money pits. Right. And then, like, what, they're hosting weddings, like, in, like, a house.

[Claudia Oshry]

Frau. Like.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, no. And, like, then you're giving tourists. No, no, no. We have no.

[Claudia Oshry]

I do feel like she's. It's definitely stepped back. She stepped back a little bit, like, from being a working actress. But I think she'll come back. Joan.

[Jackie Oshry]

She's still on advert, then that's a show. And she's Joe.

[Claudia Oshry]

Not in the uk. Not Rivers. Common misconception. Just want to say.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, so maybe, like, he inherited his family's estate, and she was like, hell, no. The roof is leaking. I'm out.

[Claudia Oshry]

I do think while you're adding things to your digital list, I would add her to our list of eligibles.

[Jackie Oshry]

She's 100 already there.

[Claudia Oshry]

You think Sophie Turner, but she's been in a relationship for two years. But we do love to have people who are literally in relationships.

[Jackie Oshry]

Unless you get married, you don't come off the list. That's the rule. And she is.

[Claudia Oshry]

I feel like she's not.

[Jackie Oshry]

I genuinely hate this list so much.

[Claudia Oshry]

I know.

[Jackie Oshry]

And I'm starting a new one. Okay. I want to wipe this slate clean.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, Jackie, I'm putting my foot down.

[Jackie Oshry]

You can't worst List. It's the most basic stupid list.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, my God. Now you speaking so ill of our list.

[Jackie Oshry]

Claudia, I can't.

[Claudia Oshry]

Fine. Fine.

[Jackie Oshry]

I feel queasy.

[Claudia Oshry]

Fine. Look at me. Listen. Look at me listening to you.

[Jackie Oshry]

Why, thank you. Coachers. Woers.

[Claudia Oshry]

I'm g. Have to point it out every time.

[Jackie Oshry]

2.0. Sophie.

[Claudia Oshry]

Sophie Turner. And we'll just add as they come. That's it.

[Jackie Oshry]

Add as they come. Kuma fresh.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay. Okay.

[Jackie Oshry]

Are you ready for our fourth story?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's a little TV news because Royal Payne's reboot is in the works, starring.

[Claudia Oshry]

Mark Furstein, and literally, this means the world to two people. Margot Ashra and Olivia Ashrae.

[Jackie Oshry]

I actually like the show. Like, I know, but when I think.

[Claudia Oshry]

Of it, I don't think of you.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, I don't think of me either. But I think, like, a secret that I harbor is that I thought it was a really good show. And, like, you learned a lot about rare medical conditions.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, I meant to tell you, by the way, everyone remembers when Jackie had her circlage surgery, right? Like, yeah, what was that? A year and a half ago, two.

[Jackie Oshry]

Years ago almost to the day, there.

[Claudia Oshry]

Is an episode of Grey's Anatomy. Like, you literally had, like, one of those conditions. Because I just weirdly get served clips of, like, random TV shows on TikTok and they. We're talking about a circlage on Grey's Anatomy.

[Jackie Oshry]

Wow.

[Claudia Oshry]

Maybe. Or it was like, Chicago, Maryland, one of those. Like, you are literally a. How. What's that show? House.

[Jackie Oshry]

House.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's. That's you.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's so funny. Also, I get people message me this a lot when they're watching the last seasons of Downton Abbey. Anna, remember she had a sur clash. Remember she was, like, having trouble keeping a pregnancy? And then Mary to her doctor, and it turned out she just needed the circle because she had cervical incompetence. And so. Which is a really fun fact. Like, that this is Downton Abbey. However, it's historically inaccurate because the circlage wasn't invented until the 50s and Downton Abbey takes place in the 20s.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, I feel like Julian Fellows is better than that.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. And I told Dr. An easy search. He was like, yikes. Like, when I told him, did you see Downton Abiana has the sac lodge. He is like, they were impossible. Yeah. Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay.

[Jackie Oshry]

Sorry to, like, fun for everyone.

[Claudia Oshry]

And so the secret that you harbor is that you, like, liked royal paints. The secret that I harbor as it pertains to royal pains. It's so funny that we both have, like, deep, dark secrets. Is that like. It's a show my entire family, like, my sisters loved. I've never seen one minute of it.

[Jackie Oshry]

Claudia, like, you should watch it, like, right now. I think you would like it. It's set in the Hamptons.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. It takes place, though, at that big house right where everybody gets married. It's the. The oh he Castle. It's where the Blank Space music video is. It's like, on Long Island. It's very famous. I think so.

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't feel like that was the vibe.

[Claudia Oshry]

Really?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Let me see. Royal Payne's house. Ohika Castle.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Shadow Pond. There's, like this mansion in Long Island. For anybody who's not familiar, it's called Ohika Castle. Now locals know it. It's like a. A venue that you can rent a lot of, like, swirlies, get married there. But it's also featured in a lot of famous TV shows. Blank Space music video, obviously.

[Jackie Oshry]

Royal Pains, most famously. Blank Space most famously. In popular culture, it was served as partial inspiration for Gatsby's estate in the Great Gatsby. That feels right.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, but they didn't film it there.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, but it was like, inspiration. And it's a castle on Long island, so that makes sense. I'm just gonna skip to, like, things that we know.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, it's just like this random wedding venue that's oddly relevant in pop culture.

[Jackie Oshry]

It was used in the music video Cookie by R. Kelly.

[Claudia Oshry]

Cool, cool, cool, cool. Love that.

[Jackie Oshry]

Used in Liam Payne and Ria Oras for you music video.

[Claudia Oshry]

So it's seeped in American history.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Real Houses of New York City season 12 reunion.

[Claudia Oshry]

Really?

[Jackie Oshry]

The first in person reunion after the pandemic.

[Claudia Oshry]

Covid. Wow. Love that.

[Jackie Oshry]

A music video for a JLO and Maluma's song party. Plus lonely.

[Claudia Oshry]

Wow. I'm telling you guys.

[Jackie Oshry]

The castle was Featured in a Mr. Beast video in which the Mr. Beast crew was tasked to stay in a $1 hotel. To a $1 million hotel.

[Claudia Oshry]

Wow.

[Jackie Oshry]

And the more you know, it stood in for a Hungarian castle in the second season of succession. So we thought we were in Hungary. Turns out we were in Long Island.

[Claudia Oshry]

Long Island. And now let me ask you something about Royal Pains reboot. What the hell is the show about?

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, I'm so glad he's a doctor. So he's staying at the. He doesn't live in Oheka Castle. Some. He's in someone's like, guest house. Someone is like, maybe he's the doctor to the person who lives in the house. But the Person's, like, never there. So he becomes a concierge doctor for rich people in the Hamptons. They, like, call him with their ailments. And so every episode, it's kind of like House, where someone has, like, a mysterious thing going on. And he's, like, the best doctor and he solves it, but it's always something, you know, like gout. Like, something random.

[Claudia Oshry]

Of course.

[Jackie Oshry]

Of course. Undiagnosable. Except to Dr. Henry Hank Lawson.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's Mark.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's Mark. And then his little brother is also with him in the Hamptons. And the little brother is just, like, wants to party, and it's, like, so funny, and he's, like. Wants to get down, and he actually falls in love with, like, a Hampton swirly. Like a socialite. Very rich. Very. Works out. Things work out well for him. And she's a main cast member, too. The two of them just, like, being hammed and swirlies.

[Claudia Oshry]

I just feel like this is a show that was, like, moderately successful. It was a. You. It was on usa, right? It was, like, a random channel. Yeah. And so it was. It was. It was successful for USA because all they do is play SVU reboots. Like, so it's such a random show to reboot. Like, it had, like, a. A fandom, but not, like, a vocal one or a large one. Like, I just. Like, I'm confused.

[Jackie Oshry]

Well, I'm here for this reboot because I think it's, like, an easy show to reboot. You don't have to, like, he could still be Dr. Hank.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yep.

[Jackie Oshry]

They could still be out in the Hamptons doing their thing. We're learning about niche, mysterious medical conditions. That works for me. Depending on where I'm at in my life, like, maybe I'll give it a shot, but I think you should watch the old one. I think you would like it. It's totally, well, neutral.

[Claudia Oshry]

I want to say, while your. Your condition of circlaging is definitely, like, common fodder, I feel like I'm about to see an episode of, like, a coccynia. Do you know what I mean?

[Jackie Oshry]

Maybe there is one in Royal Pains.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, maybe that's how between Royal Pains, House, Grey's Anatomy, Chicago, Maryland, like, all these medical shows, there is definitely a coccydinia diagnosis or.

[Jackie Oshry]

And if there's not, I think that's something that the coccydinia awareness committee free idea should be. Be pitching, like, so that there's Coxidinia.

[Claudia Oshry]

Visibility 100 representation for the community.

[Jackie Oshry]

Will you try watching Royal Pains or not? Like, the Old one.

[Claudia Oshry]

I mean, like a TV show funk. So this is not me not listening.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, I. I didn't say. By the way. I didn't say do it. I asked.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, now I'm feeling, like, so defensive.

[Jackie Oshry]

I didn't do it. I asked a question.

[Claudia Oshry]

I don't know. I don't know. I'm not really in the mood for, like, a new show, you know?

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay.

[Claudia Oshry]

But just to defend my reputation. Sure, I'll watch it. I'll watch the whole thing by Monday. Okay. Before we dive into the fifth and final story and then my favorite segment of the week, Queenie and Weenie of the week. Let me let you know that today's episode is brought to you by Saks Fifth Avenue. So Saks Fifth Avenue is the sponsor of today's episode. It's really just the most fun and easy way to find style inspiration. So if you're looking to break out of your comfy podcast, podcast clothes, find new styles that you love for spring. You're packing for a fabulous trip, a destination wedding, whatever it is. If you need clothes seriously, go to saks.com Saks is just the best. First of all, like, they have the best selection, the best designers. Their website is so user friendly. They have great edits because shopping online, especially at a big store, can be overwhelming. But I think the Saks website really does it perfectly. They have great edits. You could shop by designer, shop by event. So if you're looking, you know, for spring clothes, cocktail dresses, wedding dresses, guest wedding dresses, it's really, like a fun way to get inspired. Also, I really like Saks because every time I shop there, I find myself, like, buying something that in a year, everybody's wearing and talking about, like, everything I've bought from Saks, like, the. I feel like I'm early too. I feel like the people who, like, are the buyers there, like, know the cool designers before they actually are cool. And then you're just like a cool person. And I'm not inherently cool, so having, you know, Saks on my side makes it really helpful. So if you're looking for cute loungewear, vacation clothes, summer clothes, spring clothes, shopping should be fun and easy. So head to saks.com for inspiring ways to upgrade your personal style every single day. So shop [e-mail] saks.com s a k-s.com Today's episode is also brought to you by Opill, the first over the counter daily birth control pill available in the United States. So you Guys may not know this, but a third of women face barriers to accessing prescription birth control. Between school, work, family and just life in general, women have been facing these barriers head on. But now Opill is empowering the swirlies by putting birth control in your control, making it easy and accessible for all women. So Opill is a daily birth control pill. It's FDA approved, it's full prescription strength and estrogen free. It's safe for most people and it can even be used by breastfeeding moms. The best part of Opill is that there's no prescription needed. You can buy Opill online or and at major retailers, which I feel like up until recently has been completely unheard of. So the fact that it's over the counter, you could buy it online and at most major retailers, like, that's seriously so crazy. Like if you've had the struggle of getting birth control, like you know how big of a deal that is. Opel is birth control in your control? You can use code toast for 25 off your first month of [e-mail] our code is toast t o a s t and the website is opel.com o p I l l dot com. Check out Opill to see if it's right for you. Do not use Opill if you have or have ever had breast cancer. C O pill label for list of warnings. Again, our code is toast t o a s t for 25 off your first month of [e-mail] o p I l l.com thank you.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh turd.

[Claudia Oshry]

You're welcome.

[Jackie Oshry]

Our fifth and final story is about one of your favorite subjects. Two of your favorite subjects. Myself, no Shark attacks and influencers. So scientists are blaming influencers for the rise in shark attacks.

[Claudia Oshry]

A scientist will blame anyone but sharks for shark attacks continue.

[Jackie Oshry]

So just when you thought it was safe to go pro back in the water. French scientists have attributed the spike in shark attacks to selfie taking influencers encouraging tourists to pet the toothy predators. Per a judge, the puns in this I can't per a jaws dropping study in the journal Frontiers in Conservation. Contrary to shark's portrayal as mindless killing machines in movies, researchers argued that many of the so called attacks were defensive responses to being poked and prodded by online clout seekers. One of the scientists, the lead researcher, said, I don't encourage, as many influencers do on social networks, people to cling to a shark's dorsal fin or stroke it under the pretext of proving that they are harmless. He was citing the genre of videos in which content creators film themselves swimming with and even poking the sea beasts. In one popular Instagram clip, a wildlife photographer is pictured touching the nose of a tiger shark off of Hawaii. The sharks here feel like family. The crazy shark question. The caption, it's funny because these influencers actually have the same goal as the scientists, which is like, show that sharks are harmless.

[Claudia Oshry]

Proving right.

[Jackie Oshry]

And the sharks are saying, no, bitch. Like, stop.

[Claudia Oshry]

I just feel like it's such an easy blame. Like, we're always blaming influencers for everything. Even though that example that. That they just cited was not an influencer. It was a wildlife photographer. Two very different things. First of all, second of all, while there's no doubt that there are absolute morons who, like, go with cameras. Remember the guy from Siesta Key who was, like, dragging that shark off his boat? Like, people are total morons and idiots. Like, and I think that's probably, you know, a cause of some shark attacks. To paint with such a broad brush. Like, that's not the only reason sharks attack. Like, sharks also attack because they're beasts of the wild. Like, why is that so hard for people to say? I feel like every time there's like, a major, like, study or research thing done on shark attacks, they're like, well, they're only attacking because, like, we're calling them shark attacks. Like, maybe. And it's like, no, it's a shark attack. It's okay. Like, how do you think Bethany Hamilton feels reading this?

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, I just started Googling her because I was.

[Claudia Oshry]

She was just minding her own goddamn business.

[Jackie Oshry]

Bethany Mota. No, Bethany Hamilton. I feel like, of the shark attacks we hear are just like people swimming at the beach, not people trying to take pictures with sharks or petting them.

[Claudia Oshry]

And to be clear, when you hear about a shark attack of somebody who was, like, trying to take a picture and pet their fins, like, you don't feel bad for them.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, I've never even heard such a thing. I've ever.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, you feel bad for the Bethany Motas of the world.

[Jackie Oshry]

Of course, some people going about their business, swimming in shallow waters, surfing. Like, you know, we all have our districts in the ocean. And then ventured into shadow shallow waters, and they took a bite.

[Claudia Oshry]

I'm just sick of this, like, like, like this rewriting of. Of facts.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Imagine going to science school, becoming a scientist, and, like, this is the work you put out.

[Jackie Oshry]

Conclusion.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, get a job. Like, you're blaming influence. I'm just sick of influencers being blamed for everything.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's like really crazy. I'm not. I haven't seen enough evidence that how. What percentage of shark attacks are people trying to get close to sharks?

[Claudia Oshry]

And to be clear, when I think of a shark attack, I do not think of an, an instance where like somebody's being an idiot and like provoking a shark and then getting their ass beat. Like I think of a. More Bethany Hamilton, you know, of course I'm not. I don't consider that a shark attack. I think of that around and finding out.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. They found that of the 74 bites recorded during the period of their study, most of which were from smaller and medium sized sharks, around 5% were likely to have been the result of sharks adding acting in defense. So 95%. So 95 of sharks are so. Okay.

[Claudia Oshry]

So what you found out. What you found out is actually the opposite of this headline.

[Jackie Oshry]

Right. The science community's discussed how like it works. It's like 5% is not then a lot the result.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right? No, the 95% would be the leading headline here. Just.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'm just trying to call back everything I've learned about numbers, about the scientific theory.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, these people are disgusting. I don't know what it is. Like, it's okay. Sharks are dangerous predators. Like that's okay to say sharks are dangerous predators.

[Jackie Oshry]

Stay back, Beware, be scared.

[Claudia Oshry]

Thousand percent, stay alert, don't swim with your period.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's funny because I feel like they're trying to say the same thing we are, which is like, don't bother sharks.

[Claudia Oshry]

We weren't like only 5% of people were like, we're not.

[Jackie Oshry]

Right. But then like, how do we prevent like people who didn't bother sharks, those shark attacks.

[Claudia Oshry]

So that's just like an unfortunate risk. Right? A very small risk of going in the ocean. There's a reason why we're only citing Bethany Hamilton. Right. It's not like a common thing.

[Jackie Oshry]

No. But I don't know, I see videos all the time of like sharks spotted in the Atlantic.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. I mean speed. Them being spotted like is not a big deal. It's not where people are swimming.

[Jackie Oshry]

See them like on the beach. From the beach.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Well, it's always like head Frontline News in Long island over the summer. Like sometimes Long island is the Atlantic is very sharky.

[Jackie Oshry]

That. Yeah. The Atlantic is like wild.

[Claudia Oshry]

Let's dive into our final segment of the week, Queenie and Weenie of the week. Every Friday. Jackie and I like to wrap up the week in a little bow. Give out two awards, Queenie of the week and Weenie of the week. It's exactly like it sounds. Who acted like a queenie this week and who acted like a major weenie this week? It's a seven day title. It's not that serious. If you find yourself being queen of the week one week, don't get too excited because you might be weaning the next. Let's dive in. What would you like to start with? Queenie.

[Jackie Oshry]

We always start with Queenie, you know, when you ask.

[Claudia Oshry]

And we always start it with me asking and then we always start it with you telling me that we start with Queenie every week. Okay. So my Queenie of the week is one Lexi Wood. I thought it was a great week to be Lexi. I have been championing her on Summer House and it was nice to see like the narrative finally flip, like so quickly. I love that.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

She's also handled herself with so much elegance, like on the show, like she could have been like a little nastier to some of the girls. And I think that she doesn't want to threaten like having beef with them. So I think she's been very classy. All that press she's been doing. I watched her on a podcast. She's very elegans and so she's a mature queen and I think she's been a great addition and this week was great for her.

[Jackie Oshry]

Agreed. My Queenie of the week was a matter we hadn't discussed yet just because it hasn't come up yet. But Stassi Shorter is my Queenie of the week because Vanderpump Villa season two premiered. She's on the show which we had reported she was doing Vanderpump Villa. Like, she's back on TV with Lisa Vanderpump. She's doing all this press, like by Lisa's side as Lisa's number two. And like the way this girl was.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like a phoenix rising from the ashes.

[Jackie Oshry]

I've never seen someone go from. Come back, come back in a way like this, like, bigger than she was before when she like. And people get canceled all the time, but there are varying degrees. And like, she had one of the worst cancellations of all time. And like, bit by bit, through her own grit, no one did anything for her. No one. Through her book, through her podcast, like, she is back. She's on gma like, she. I tell you, she's looking gorgeous. Like, this woman is a queenie. I'm gonna watch her in Vanderpump Villa at some time. And it just goes to show it's because people love her. It's because she's so fantastic. Like, even her fan, like, you can't.

[Claudia Oshry]

Keep a good gal down.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, her fans never went away, like, because she is just, like, that interesting and that funny and that cool. And I'm so happy for her because she had, like, she's had a lot of success in the last few years with her podcast and her book, but that was all, like, things she did for herself by herself. But to now, like, be back in the mainstream, back on tv, back on all the morning shows, and every mainstream bit of press that you could do, it's a feat.

[Claudia Oshry]

Agreed.

[Jackie Oshry]

I like that Queenie.

[Claudia Oshry]

My Weenie of the Week actually goes to two swirlies. They go by the name Susan O'Malley and Barbara Lippert. So I guess it's like a posthumous we need the week. Because I don't know if at the time when we reported on the Hollywood Reporter canceling the Golden Batcher, I don't think Queenie and Weenie of the Week was a segment we had created yet. So the fact that they never got to be Weenie of the Week just seems unfair. And I'm grateful that this week was the reminder that we all needed that two women named Susan O'Malley and Barbara Lippert. Oh, Suzanne O'Malley and Barbara LippERT, like, actually tried to cancel the Golden Bachelor. Like, that's something that really happened we cannot forget. And we must kind of commemorate this moment with a Weenie of the Week award.

[Jackie Oshry]

I think that's really beautiful. My Weenie of the Week was gonna be the half of Jesse Solomon. That is awful. One half of Jesse Solomon.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, the right side or the left side?

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, I would say it's definitely like, left brain. That. Yeah, it is the weenie that is exerting weeding behavior on behalf of Jesse Solomon. Considering we didn't see the other half of, like, Menchi Jesse Solomon this week. Like, he had a full. Only the left side was taken. Was on the episode. We didn't see the right side. It's a weenie for me.

[Claudia Oshry]

I agree. I like that. That's our show, you guys. Hope you enjoyed this week's episodes. We've got another week next week, but before then, we've got a relaxing weekend, so take care of yourselves. Thank you so much for listening to the Toast, the millennial morning show where we deliver the fast five stories you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube. If you're watching us on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe and give this video a thumbs up. We're also available as podcast and we're podcasts to be found. So it's about five tune stitcher public video. I already cast box all the places where you listen to podcasts. Find us the toast. Leave a five star review about how beautiful, stunning and wickedly talented we are. Yeah, yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Love you.

[Claudia Oshry]

Bye.