Raging Against Love Island with Juliette Porter: Monday, June 23rd, 2025

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Toast – "Raging Against Love Island with Juliette Porter"

Episode Details:

• Title: Raging Against Love Island with Juliette Porter
• Hosts: Jackson Claude and Claudia Oshry
• Guest: Juliette Porter
• Release Date: June 23, 2025

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1. Introduction and Welcome [00:05 - 01:05]

Jackson Claude kicks off the episode with his signature enthusiasm, welcoming listeners to The Toast. He introduces the guest, Juliette Porter, highlighting her origins from Siesta Key and her transition to Miami.

"Welcome back to The Toast. Happy Monday. Today I am joined by Juliette Porter. I'm so excited that you're here." [00:16]

Juliette reciprocates the warm welcome, reminiscing about her previous appearances on both Breath and The Toast.

2. Revisiting Past Appearances [01:05 - 05:13]

Jackson and Juliette delve into her past appearances on the podcast, recalling her virtual interview during her college years and a subsequent in-person appearance alongside Kelsey.

"You remember you and Kelsey." [00:07]

They discuss the challenges faced during the COVID-19 pandemic, particularly the shift to Zoom interviews, which Jackson describes as a "really low time."

"Doing zoom interviews was, like, a really low time." [01:33]

Juliette shares her frustrations with virtual interviews, mentioning technical issues like audio lags and her earrings hitting AirPods.

3. Transition to Current Projects [05:13 - 14:00]

Juliette updates listeners on her life post-Siesta Key, revealing that she has ventured into podcasting and launched her own swimwear line, JMP the Label.

"I started a podcast. I love it. It's called 'Don't Be Ridiculous.' It's very toasty." [13:32]

Jackson expresses admiration for her entrepreneurial spirit, suggesting potential collaborations and praising her commitment to quality.

4. Deep Dive into Love Island [14:00 - 30:00]

The conversation shifts to Love Island USA, where Jackson and Juliette vehemently express their frustrations with the show's recent season, accusing it of rigging votes and fostering unnecessary drama.

Juliette recounts witnessing on-screen drama and its real-life repercussions, highlighting the lack of authentic relationships formed on the show.

"I think now in reality TV, producers are just sort of embracing that." [04:08]

They scrutinize specific cast members, including Huda, Ace, and Jeremiah, critiquing their behavior and questioning the producers' motivations.

"They need to be like hard-headed... traitors these days." [62:56]

5. Personal Reflections and Relationships [30:00 - 50:00]

Juliette opens up about her past relationships, emphasizing the superficiality and immaturity she encountered during her time on reality TV.

"The entirety of my early 20s were on reality TV, which is kind of crazy." [04:58]

She discusses her current stance on dating, expressing reluctance to engage with individuals from reality TV due to past experiences.

"I've been single for, like, two years now. I think the longer you're single, your standards go up a lot." [08:27]

6. Behind the Scenes: Financial Insights [50:00 - 70:00]

A candid discussion ensues about the financial dynamics of reality TV personalities. Juliette admits to overpaying taxes and the challenges Jackson faces with his finances, revealing the pressures of maintaining appearances.

"I'm super afraid of breaking the law." [31:32]

Jackson shares a humorous anecdote about his car being "stolen" due to not using a Sun Pass, adding levity to the conversation.

7. Calls for Authenticity in Reality TV [70:00 - 75:00]

Both hosts advocate for more genuine interactions and relationships within reality TV, lamenting the scripted and manipulated nature of shows like Love Island. They express a desire for authentic love stories rather than manufactured drama.

"I want to see a really strong relationship. I want a couple come out of it that's like... Just so each other." [76:05]

8. Conclusion and Final Thoughts [75:00 - End]

As the episode wraps up, Jackson and Juliette reiterate their hope for more sincere and meaningful connections in reality television. They encourage listeners to support authenticity over contrived drama.

"If you do it, make sure you go to a great hairdresser." [36:40]

Juliette shares her social media handles and promotes her swimwear line, closing the episode on a personal and entrepreneurial note.

"Juliette Porter is my Instagram. Juliet Porter. And then at jmp, the label for my bikinis." [78:45]

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Notable Quotes:

1. Jackson Claude: "Doing Zoom interviews was, like, a really low time." [01:33]
2. Juliette Porter: "I always struggle with that about reality TV. Like, what am I offering the world?" [11:11]
3. Jackson Claude: "He doesn't see anything is wrong with his behavior." [26:17]
4. Juliette Porter: "I have a podcast called 'Don't Be Ridiculous.' It's very toasty." [13:45]
5. Jackson Claude: "I want to see a really strong relationship. I want to see a couple come out of it that's just so each other." [76:05]

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Key Insights and Conclusions:

• Authenticity vs. Manufactured Drama: Both hosts emphasize the importance of genuine relationships over the orchestrated drama prevalent in reality TV. They critique the manipulation by producers to heighten viewership.

• Impact of Reality TV on Personal Lives: Juliette shares how her extensive involvement in reality TV during her formative years has influenced her personal relationships and professional endeavors.

• Entrepreneurial Spirit: Juliette exemplifies resilience by branching into podcasting and launching a successful swimwear line, JMP the Label, showcasing the potential for reality TV personalities to leverage their fame into sustainable businesses.

• **Critical View of Love Island: Both Jackson and Juliette express dissatisfaction with the current season of Love Island USA, citing alleged vote rigging and lack of meaningful connections among contestants.

• Financial Realities Behind the Scenes: The conversation sheds light on the financial strains and management challenges faced by reality TV stars, highlighting the less glamorous aspects of maintaining a public persona.

This episode of The Toast provides a candid and critical examination of the reality TV landscape through the lens of a seasoned reality TV star, offering listeners both entertainment and thoughtful commentary.

Transcript

[Jackson Claude]

Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast. It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host.

[Juliet Porter]

It's your favorite show.

[Jackson Claude]

The best five things you need to know. We'll start your day off Swirly. It's the Toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to the Toast. Happy Monday. Today I am joined by Juliet Porter. I'm so excited that you're here. Juliet is from Siesta Key, originally. Now you're like a Miami Swirly, but I watch every episode of every season of Siesta Key, so this means so much to me. Welcome to the Toast, Juliette.

[Juliet Porter]

Thank you for having me. It's been years.

[Jackson Claude]

It's been years. You did come on the breath once and the Toast once.

[Juliet Porter]

So it was first. It was the morning breath.

[Jackson Claude]

Right, Right, the morning breath. You came on, like, virtually. I remember you were, like, still in college, like, with your friends. I was, yeah. And you, like, zoomed in.

[Juliet Porter]

Yes.

[Jackson Claude]

And we were excited. That was during the first season.

[Juliet Porter]

That was. Was that the first season?

[Jackson Claude]

I think so.

[Juliet Porter]

Yeah. 2017.

[Jackson Claude]

That was the year of the breath.

[Juliet Porter]

It's been so long.

[Jackson Claude]

It's been so long. But then you also came on the Toast. Pink backdrop with Kelsey, maybe some boys. But, like, I remember you and Kelsey.

[Juliet Porter]

You guys used to do, like, reality stars a lot, right?

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, we used to do sometimes, like, an interview a day. Like, maybe, like, three to five interviews a week with, like, guests coming through that, like, stopped during COVID when, like, people wouldn't come into studio anymore. And then you could do, like, zoom interviews, but, like, we don't.

[Juliet Porter]

Was that, like, harder for you guys to do? And now it's just, like, you're chilling. Like, it's just kind of more fun this way, maybe.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, we definitely, like, forced us to pivot. But, like, doing zoom interviews was, like, really the worst. That was, like, a really low time.

[Juliet Porter]

I don't. And, like, there's always a lag. And then I remember, like, I've done a bunch of them. My earrings always hit, like, my AirPods.

[Jackson Claude]

It's just like, a guest, like, their audio or their. They can't hear us or they can't wear headphones, so we're echoing. It's just, like, a nightmare. So then we were like, we'll only do in person guests. But it took a while for in person guests to happen again. So Claudia and I just got used to, like, doing it ourselves, and we just kind of, like, beefed up the rest of the show, and it was just, like, it all happened very naturally. So now we don't do a lot of guests. But now for Jackson Friends, I get to invite my friends.

[Juliet Porter]

And how long is this going on for?

[Jackson Claude]

So this is the fifth.

[Juliet Porter]

She's, like, having her sweet time. She's taking her. She's recovering.

[Jackson Claude]

This is actually the last full week of Jackson friends, and this is our fifth week, which it's been so much fun. I have so many good guests this week, starting with you. We have so much to talk about because I need to catch up with you. Juliet is also caught up on Love island, as am I. After fifth and final story will lead into the TV recap. We're gonna try and sit on our hands so we don't, like, you know, just go off right now. But, like, so many thoughts.

[Juliet Porter]

So many thoughts. No, I had the first thing I said when I walked in, I was like, are we talking about this? Yes, we need to.

[Jackson Claude]

We. No, we'll wait. We'll wait till the end. And the good news is I have, like, so many questions for you that I'm also bursting with, so I can wait on Love Island. How are you doing? How's life post siesta?

[Juliet Porter]

Life is good. I actually wanted to tell you a story. Cause I forgot about this when I think it was 2018. I did come on the toast, and in classic Claudia fashion, she said something kind of, like, out of pocket. I think she said something about Kelsey's mom, and I was like, no, totally. It was, like, kind of catty. Just a little catty. But it got back to the cast that me and Claudia were, like, talking about Kelsey's mom. Kelsey was pissed. Everyone was like, you're such a bitch. Like, why would you talk about her mom? That's her mom on the show.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, live on the toast. It was like, you could watch it. Okay.

[Juliet Porter]

And it turned into, like, this huge fight on Siesta Key. But because it was, like, breaking the fourth wall, we had to spin it. Like, I was mad at a boy. Like a boy did something. We were screaming at each other over the toast.

[Jackson Claude]

Oh, my gosh.

[Juliet Porter]

The drama, the tea.

[Jackson Claude]

That's so dramatic.

[Juliet Porter]

I think in reality TV to try to keep the outside world out of your fights.

[Jackson Claude]

I agree. And I feel like now in reality tv, producers are just sort of embracing that. Like, we see that with Mormon wives where they talk about contract negotiations. I feel like even on Siesta Key, that, like, first season fight between Chloe and Amanda about the nose. About the nose. That was about what they said. It was about, like, Chipotle.

[Juliet Porter]

Yeah. Well, yes. No, I think it was they were just wasted, honestly, all the fights on csk, we were just blackout drunk, which I don't think happens on TV as much anymore. Am I wrong?

[Jackson Claude]

I don't know. I feel like when I rewatched Laguna Beach, I realized, like, they're all just drunk, and they're like.

[Juliet Porter]

But they're like 16, so they're drunk off, like, two drinks.

[Jackson Claude]

No. And everything. But also when we watched it growing up, like, I didn't realize that's what's in their cups. But now when I'm watching it, I'm like, oh, you guys are just being drunk.

[Juliet Porter]

I mean, I was illegally drinking the first, like, three years of Siesta Key.

[Jackson Claude]

How old were you when you started Siesta Key?

[Juliet Porter]

So we shot the pilot when I was 17, and then it was. Then I went to college, and it didn't get picked up by MTV till I was 18 or 19.

[Jackson Claude]

Okay.

[Juliet Porter]

And then we filmed till I was 25. So, like, my. The entirety. Entirety of my early 20s were on reality TV, which is kind of crazy.

[Jackson Claude]

That is really crazy. And you were in college for a lot of Siesta Key. Do you ever feel like dropping out because you're like, I'm a big star.

[Juliet Porter]

About it for like, a second?

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Juliet Porter]

That's so immature.

[Jackson Claude]

I'm so glad that you did it. And it really worked. They really worked on your filming schedule. They would film in the summer because Summer in Siesta Key is like, no other.

[Juliet Porter]

Exactly. You got it. But it's hot. And I really, like, there's a lot of. Of other places I would have been.

[Jackson Claude]

In hindsight, it's like, probably Winter in Siesta Key is the best. Is the best summer. Probably everyone leaves.

[Juliet Porter]

Exactly. Well, it's not as bad as, like, Miami. Like, especially I hang out with, like, some of these people in Miami. They're gone all winter. Like, everyone's in the Hamptons right now. Yeah, like, that would have made more sense, right? Summer in the Hamptons Summer House.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, you should be on Summer House. That's what I do every day here. I talk to people in convincing to go home.

[Juliet Porter]

I was just listening to the Tyler episode.

[Jackson Claude]

You and Tyler should go to summer episode.

[Juliet Porter]

So my old producer on Siesta Key was the casting director last year for Summerhouse, so I did a whole Summer House interview. Oh, good. It took me, like, three hours. They didn't go with me. I don't know why. Maybe they didn't like me or maybe I had already been in this world. And I think. I think they Went with Lexi instead. I don't know if that's how it.

[Jackson Claude]

Worked, but if she was, like, the choice over you and Bailey, which she didn't even make it through this season. So I think it's safe to say they made the wrong choice and that I would like to nominate Nate Juliet again.

[Juliet Porter]

Yeah. I mean, I feel like I'm pretty good at reality tv.

[Jackson Claude]

I feel like you'd be great on Summer House and you want to get out of Florida for the summer. I think, like, even someone was saying, like, Jesse lives in Florida.

[Juliet Porter]

He's my neighbor.

[Jackson Claude]

Oh.

[Juliet Porter]

He lives literally next door to me.

[Jackson Claude]

Have you guys ever date him?

[Juliet Porter]

He's not my type. Don't tell him that.

[Jackson Claude]

He's gonna, like, on the inside or the outside?

[Juliet Porter]

Both.

[Jackson Claude]

I won't tell him.

[Juliet Porter]

I don't really know him that well, but he did. He, like, went on a date with my friend. I mean, it would have worked. Like, I'm kind of friends with Paige. Like, we have a lot of mutuals. I feel like.

[Jackson Claude]

No, you would be great.

[Juliet Porter]

I went to the Dominican Republic together a few years ago. We went snorkeling. We got caught in, like, a massive wave. We had to hide under the benches. We were getting seasick. It was, like, a whole thing. We could have brought it up. Yeah. It would have worked. But, I mean, they kind of wanted me to live in New York. Like, that's a thing. And I was like, fine, I will move to New York. I was like, I'm down.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. Or at least for the summer, and then go out on the weekends.

[Juliet Porter]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

I feel like it's probably good you weren't cast last season because everyone who was cast is, like, fired, and they're rejiggering the whole thing. So, like, I don't know. Maybe your time will come.

[Juliet Porter]

Yeah. I did end up doing a different show. Like, a month after I got denied from Summer House, someone else called me to do another show.

[Jackson Claude]

Like an alumni reality show?

[Juliet Porter]

Yes. I don't know. I'm not. Signed an NDA.

[Jackson Claude]

Okay.

[Juliet Porter]

But literally, I'm telling you, in several days, I will be able to talk about this. But unfortunately.

[Jackson Claude]

Okay. At the end of the week, I'm not going to push you. I respect a binding legal agreement.

[Juliet Porter]

Yes.

[Jackson Claude]

Did you enjoy your time on that show?

[Juliet Porter]

You know. Oh, gosh. It was. It's. Let me just tell you, it was different than Siesta Key, where I. Especially towards the end of Siesta Key, I did whatever I wanted. Like, it was kind of. We got to create our own Schedule is based off of our life, what was going on. This was not like that.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, this was probably like, all people together in a.

[Juliet Porter]

But it was definitely a good experience.

[Jackson Claude]

Okay, good. Does it make you want to do more of that sort of reality television?

[Juliet Porter]

I would love to do Traders.

[Jackson Claude]

Right.

[Juliet Porter]

I want to do something that's, like, thought based, you know, choose your mind.

[Jackson Claude]

Like a mind game, not a physical game.

[Juliet Porter]

And I want to go to Scotland. Sounds cool.

[Jackson Claude]

And do you want to do something that's, like, love based, like the Bachelor?

[Juliet Porter]

I don't know. I feel like I have a hard time taking that stuff seriously.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Juliet Porter]

Like, I just don't know if people are in it for the right intentions. And I have. I've been single for, like, two years now. I think the longer you're single, your standards go up a lot, almost to a fault. And I just, like, I don't know if I want to be with a reality TV person, which is saying a lot, because I'm a reality TV person.

[Jackson Claude]

I 100%. I wouldn't want to do the podcast too close to home. You see how the sauce is made and, like.

[Juliet Porter]

Right. And I think that I don't want to be with my personality type as much as you should be. The opposite.

[Jackson Claude]

Opposites attract. And you've dated reality stars from, like, being on tsdk. They were automatically. And then of course, like, robbie, I have trauma.

[Juliet Porter]

Oh, my God. Never forget. Oh, my God. Never forget. Oh, my God. I was just talking about this the other day, too.

[Jackson Claude]

What were you saying? How do you look back on it?

[Juliet Porter]

Well, there's. Okay, you know. You know what's funny? So when I started to get the ick from him, I mean, we dated for, like, two months. Like, nothing crazy. I started to get the ick. And so I told him I was sick. I was, like, lying to him. I was like, I don't feel good. I don't feel good. So he sent me a care package full of medicine and tissues. And one of them was. He put little notes on each item, and one of them was vitamin C. And it was like, because you're already getting that vitamin D. And it was just like, maybe some people would think that was cute.

[Jackson Claude]

It all sounded cute up until that note. That one note.

[Juliet Porter]

But even when you start to get the ick, there's no going back.

[Jackson Claude]

No. And the more they do for you, the ickier it gets. The thing to do is to retreat a little bit. Absence makes the heart grow fonder.

[Juliet Porter]

Exactly. But in his defense, like, I told him I was sick. I was completely lying to him.

[Jackson Claude]

Right, right. But that's crazy. You only dated two months and he came on the show and. Is he from the Key? Right.

[Juliet Porter]

He had, like, a history with Alex, lived in Sarasota. I don't even remember. It's been a long time.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, I never forget.

[Juliet Porter]

It's weird going back.

[Jackson Claude]

If Siesta Key has no fans, I'm dead. And if Juliet Porter has no fans, I'm dead. You are always my number one.

[Juliet Porter]

Like, you know what I was thinking that I feel like you guys will voice your opinions about who is it the other day? Like, Ari. What's his name? Who's Arik?

[Jackson Claude]

Tarik.

[Juliet Porter]

Tarek. Ari. But I feel like I never, ever got any heat, even when I did, because I've done some bad things.

[Jackson Claude]

No, the thing is, it's like, we'll, like, we'll watch the show, whatever. And sometimes I just, like, have my favorites for whatever reason. Like, I just relate to someone or I just. I love them. I'm rooting for them. And it's like, even if I don't agree with what they've just done, like, I want more. Like, it's like a friend. Like, I'm not gonna. You're not. No longer my friend because I didn't. Like, I just wanna see it done differently or, like, I'm still rooting for you. I'm just crazy how I don't, like, jump around.

[Juliet Porter]

Like, I feel that way about, like, people in Love island right now. I'm like, I like you and nothing's gonna change, and I just want the best for you, or I don't like you, and nothing's gonna make me like you.

[Jackson Claude]

Right. And then there are other people who, like, I really can go back and forth on, and they can, like, make me like them sometimes, but just then you just have, like, the people that you just feel connected to. But you were also, like, the narrator of the show. Like, it was very much like you were the protagonist. And, like, we were seeing everything, like, through Juliet's point of view. And so even when you were, like, on the outs with the girls or, like, you were going back to, like, Alex or whatever, and that's not what we wanted for you. Like, I don't know, you were just a sympathetic character.

[Juliet Porter]

Well, what I went through with Alex, too, was just, like, so many girls go through these really toxic, borderline, like, embarrassing relationships. Like, to this day, I still have girls that are older than I was, and I'm like, what are you doing with him? Like, at least I was 20. It's a really common thing. And I just. Yeah. I realized it felt like I wasn't doing anything of value, and I always struggled with that about reality tv. Like, what am I offering the world? But I was offering someone that people could relate to, and, like, they understood what I was going through. And it's just, you know, your first love, like, they can do anything, you take them back. It's crazy.

[Jackson Claude]

No, that was really crazy. And then there was Sam.

[Juliet Porter]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

I wasn't really for Juliet and Sam, he.

[Juliet Porter]

You know, he just wasn't for me. I wish him the best.

[Jackson Claude]

That's good.

[Juliet Porter]

He was. Yeah. Just honestly, like, I feel like any relationship I've had in the past doesn't.

[Jackson Claude]

Count because it wasn't.

[Juliet Porter]

Like, it doesn't feel like it. Anything. I. My last relationship ended when I was 25, 26, and that one was not.

[Jackson Claude]

On the show a little bit. Okay.

[Juliet Porter]

But they just don't feel like they were real mature, adult relationships. So, you know, I'm just like, now I'm at that point in my life where everything. It just doesn't seem like it was real back then. Like, Sam didn't feel real to me.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. It kind of maybe, like, feels like a college relationship where it's surface level. Yeah. And, like, everything's set. It's very easy.

[Juliet Porter]

Yeah. You know, he liked that I was there. He didn't love me for me. I don't think he would have said otherwise, but I'm like, it just doesn't. It feels like you love me being next to you and me being there for you.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. It's like people with, like, two, like, oh, we should date. So. So we shall.

[Juliet Porter]

You're here.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Juliet Porter]

We're in the same room. We're in the same friend group.

[Jackson Claude]

You're so nice. Which of the girls are you still close with?

[Juliet Porter]

So Chloe and I are still very close. Amanda and I are close, but I haven't lived in Siesta Key Sarasota, in a couple years.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Juliet Porter]

So I have, like, a whole new group of friends now, a whole new life. I started a podcast.

[Jackson Claude]

You did?

[Juliet Porter]

Yes. I love it. I love. It's. At first, I was nervous to start it. I was like, what am I going to talk about?

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Juliet Porter]

For an hour every day. It's just so much fun.

[Jackson Claude]

It's so much fun.

[Juliet Porter]

I love talking.

[Jackson Claude]

I see clips from your show. You do with your friend.

[Juliet Porter]

Yeah. Sebastian. It's called don't be Ridiculous. It's very toasty.

[Jackson Claude]

Oh, very giggly.

[Juliet Porter]

Squad. Very toasty. It's just so much fun.

[Jackson Claude]

No, it's really so fun. I'm glad that now you're, like, a podcasting pro, so today's gonna be a breeze for you.

[Juliet Porter]

I love it. I also have my swim line still.

[Jackson Claude]

JMP the label. Everyone is like, jmp the label is, like, so its own brand that it's like. It's. I mean, it's literally the official swimsuit of Sports Illustrated. Yeah. It's.

[Juliet Porter]

Oh, my God. Thank you for bringing that up, Jackie. Yeah. We were on the COVID last year on Hunter McGrady.

[Jackson Claude]

That's insane.

[Juliet Porter]

So cool. And we didn't know, like, they don't tell us. We offer them suits. We give them, like, I don't know, maybe 20 suits every year for either the show or their shoots. And we find out, like, the day of this year, another cover model wore it on the Runway, and I was, like, there, and I was like, we tried out. Oh, my God. Oh, Lauren Chan.

[Jackson Claude]

Oh, that is.

[Juliet Porter]

Can't believe I just remember that.

[Jackson Claude]

I have a horrible memory, I guess. Just, like, everyone's wearing your swimsuits, which they really are. And you're also. You just did a collab with someone.

[Juliet Porter]

I did an uncommon. James. Yep. That's what I. Yeah. Which is we're gonna do some more. And I love that. And it's like reality tv. Kristen Juliet.

[Jackson Claude]

Brilliant. But what's so crazy is, like, JMP is. Is so successful. And I mean, the swimsuits, all the ones that I've worn, I'm not really in, like, my swimsuit era, but, like, when you first drop them, like, you. There was a cut that was just, like, made for me, which was, like, really hard because.

[Juliet Porter]

Yeah, I do. There's a lot of moms that listen.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Juliet Porter]

A lot of mom toasters.

[Jackson Claude]

You have supportive.

[Juliet Porter]

Yes.

[Jackson Claude]

Tops.

[Juliet Porter]

Yes. We have a bunch of different style one pieces. High waist. Like, we just have something for everybody.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Juliet Porter]

Like, it's not one of those brands where you feel like you have to be, like, super, like, put together or, like, a stick to wear. Like, it's just. And I love that.

[Jackson Claude]

No, I love it too. But it's so crazy. Like, JMP was born out of the swimsuit wars. On the swimsuit wars. The swimsuit wars on CSD Key. Like, you and Kelsey both starting swimsuit brands, and it was just, like, kind of drama for the show. But, like, no, that was so real. Right. Did. At any point when I was watching, and I know I said this on the toast, like, did you guys think about just doing one label, like, Siesta Swim. So, no, in hindsight, it's better that you didn't because, like, JMP has outlasted.

[Juliet Porter]

I mean, I think that you have to 100%. You have to very much be selective of who you work with. Like, I take a long time to start things because I had been thinking about doing swimsuit line since basically the show started. But I have to do things right because I won't quit once I start. Like, I'm not a quitter. So I've been doing this since, I don't know, halfway through the show, and I have no plans of, like, just giving up on it because it doesn't feel like it's right. Like, it's something I want to really follow through with and I love and I'm passionate about. So it seemed like it came out of, you know, drama, but it was like, no, this is something I'm going to do.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Juliet Porter]

And, like, watch me.

[Jackson Claude]

No, and just, like, the timing of it was just, like, so crazy that you both started swim brands, like, the same episode of the same season.

[Juliet Porter]

What happened was I was asking around, does anybody know anybody in the swimwear industry? And someone that worked on production knew someone that actually had been manufacturing all of Frankie's and designing for Beach Bunny for years. Like, one of. And she's my partner now, Jamie. She has been in the world for 30 years. And it just so happened that, like, I was asking and they told me about her instead of Kelsey. And so it was, like, just a little. I get why she was upset. Like, it could have been her that they introduced my partner to.

[Jackson Claude]

Got it.

[Juliet Porter]

But it was me.

[Jackson Claude]

They chose you. Like, they.

[Juliet Porter]

I had been asking, and she hadn't been asking. She might have been, but they all. They picked me.

[Jackson Claude]

Okay.

[Juliet Porter]

And I think at the end of the day, like, I know both of their personalities. It wouldn't have worked the other way.

[Jackson Claude]

Got it. Interesting. Well, you've done really an amazing job with it. Thank you.

[Juliet Porter]

Oh, I have a code for the toasters.

[Jackson Claude]

Share it.

[Juliet Porter]

Toast. 15 for 15% off. Off anything on the site.

[Jackson Claude]

I actually need new swimsuits, so I'm going to use that.

[Juliet Porter]

Wait, I sent Claudia. This is maybe. Did she say Bart's?

[Jackson Claude]

Yes. When she went to St. Bart's I remember you sent her overnight and it got lost. No, it was at my house. She left it got lost in my house.

[Juliet Porter]

Okay.

[Jackson Claude]

Don't worry.

[Juliet Porter]

She had already left, I think.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, yeah. It was, like, too late. That's why it got lost in my house, because then it was gone. Okay, I'm gonna make a cart. Maybe. Maybe I'll send it to you for. For freebie. Good. Today's episode of the Toast is brought to you by America Sweethearts. Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders Season 2 on Netflix. You guys, Season 1 of DCC on Netflix was the best show I've ever watched, and I've been so excited for season two. It is out now and I'm gonna save it for next week so that I could watch with Claudia because we loved watching together last summer. So is the journey of the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders, also known as America Sweethearts. They've been my sweethearts for a very long time because my husband's a Cowboys fan. So I've like, been on to the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders, but now America is falling in love with them all over again in their new Netflix series. So season two just dropped and major themes this season. Unprecedented access, real and vulnerable. 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And I feel like she, you know, did the classic paparazzi walk out of the car pictures with her hand in sight and she's like, clearly not wearing her ring when she does always wear it.

[Juliet Porter]

I mean, it could mean nothing.

[Jackson Claude]

It could mean nothing.

[Juliet Porter]

I'm. I'm pretty anti Justin right now because of Vogue. I don't like a Vogue. Oh, well, of course, of course. That, that and all the other things that he's done. I mean, everything he posts, he's still consistently posting just like crazy stuff.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Juliet Porter]

Embarrassing for her.

[Jackson Claude]

He. Very embarrassing. He also posted something about getting the same silent treatment like after this wedding ring thing. But like they could be isolated incidents, you know, So I try not to like, read into stuff too much and.

[Juliet Porter]

Standing on business is like, oh, yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

Well, I mean, that went well for him at least. And I understand his frustration with the paparazzi. Like he's not doing anything. He's obviously just wants to be left alone and they won't leave him alone.

[Juliet Porter]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

But when it comes to their marriage, I just like, I don't see how they're in like a happy, like a happy marriage at the moment.

[Juliet Porter]

She can't be okay with his constant outbursts.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Juliet Porter]

And she's acting like she is. And I feel for her because she knows that saying anything is going to add fuel to the fire. But that's all he's doing. He's just creating all this drama and she's trying to put it out by not saying anything, but it just kind of makes her look like, I don't know, weak.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Juliet Porter]

I don't know.

[Jackson Claude]

But I do Think it takes strength to, like, very much to ride it out. You know, obviously, like, you just. Someone's being that way, you just want to run away. But, like, I. You know, they have a child together. I think she really, like, does love him. And I don't know, on the one hand, like, I go back and forth, and I always say, like, on the one hand, it's like, how are these two still married? They're definitely not.

[Juliet Porter]

Like, I imagine, like, she's like, justin, like, can you please stop? And he's like, haley, this is like, I'm doing what. This is how I am. This is who I am. I'm not gonna pretend to be someone I'm not.

[Jackson Claude]

Right.

[Juliet Porter]

She's just like, okay.

[Jackson Claude]

Or maybe he's just, like, going through it at the moment. And so she's, like, letting him. Letting him. And, like, maybe she's traveling and just, like, kind of ignoring him. That's the strategy.

[Juliet Porter]

I mean, she just sold road.

[Jackson Claude]

I know. Well, she. That gives her a lot of power to, like, do what she actually wants to do.

[Juliet Porter]

Yeah. Does she own 100% of road?

[Jackson Claude]

No. So apparently she has investors, and, like, people were breaking it down and, of course, trying to, like, minimize. And so I think maybe she walks away with, like, $200 million.

[Juliet Porter]

But, like, I know when everyone said that. I know about this enough to know that there's no way she. Guys, she did not walk away with a billion dollars in her pocket. That's not how things work.

[Jackson Claude]

But 200 million, like, I think that. I think that's enough for her, like, minimum, for sure.

[Juliet Porter]

I think she's happy with that.

[Jackson Claude]

And she'll continue to work still.

[Juliet Porter]

She'll continue to work, and I love what she's doing. I mean, she's an icon.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Juliet Porter]

I just feel. Yeah. This is, like, tough for her. And I wonder how long he's gonna continue to, you know, do this.

[Jackson Claude]

I know. It's like, it's a cry for help, and he needs help. I don't know if he would accept it. And it's just, like, unfortunate that we have to watch it all unfold and, like, it's public for her, because I'm rooting for her.

[Juliet Porter]

I know I'm rooting for both of them. I love him. I love. Like, I just. I feel like he's been through so much. Like, I want the best for him, but it just doesn't seem like he even wants to help himself.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, he doesn't see.

[Juliet Porter]

It doesn't seem like he thinks anything is wrong with his Behavior.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Juliet Porter]

And that's the biggest problem.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, I agree. Are you watching the Valley?

[Juliet Porter]

I am not. Is that Vanderpump?

[Jackson Claude]

That's Vanderpump. Alum. I. I just got caught up this weekend, and I don't know, some of it just reminds me of, like, Brittany and Jazz.

[Juliet Porter]

I knew you were gonna say that.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Juliet Porter]

Because I know he just came out. He's a coke addict.

[Jackson Claude]

Yes. They are divorced. It will be finalized on July 21st. As he said on Watch what Happens Live. I watched that episode, too. Sad. But it's time. When they first announced their divorce, I was like, no, like, make it work. Even though he's obviously problematic, and he always has been, it's like, but you've loved him for 10 years. Like, love him. And then, of course, when people start to separate, everything comes out, and it's like, oh, run.

[Juliet Porter]

I never want to be in that position like, that. I'm very picky about who I'm gonna be with now because I never want to be, Like, I never want any dirty laundry aired like that. No matter how mad you get at a partner, you have a kid.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. No, that definitely changes things. The two of them have obviously decided to, like, sort of bypass that in the name of their careers in reality television, which, like, I think is what's required.

[Juliet Porter]

I agree.

[Jackson Claude]

If you know what I mean. Like, I wouldn't, you know, tell a friend to do it, but, like, I think what they get out from the show, it's like, okay, well, this and this money and this. Like, this is worth it, and we'll just, you know, sort of.

[Juliet Porter]

As long as they have an understanding. I totally do.

[Jackson Claude]

That's the vibe that I get, where it's like, we're all in. I think for some, like, couples, you kind of have to be. If you want to be on reality TV and you want to be good at it, like, you kind of. You have to bear it all. Even if, like, that means, like, exposing your family or kids. Like, I wouldn't do it. It's not for me.

[Juliet Porter]

But, like, proud of Jax. The fact that he opened up about all of that is, like, a lot of people would never do that.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. But he's always sort of that. I don't know. I'm. I'm on the fence about his recovery, like, that he's. His sobriety is good, but, like, I feel like he always, like, admits, like, oh, that was really bad. I shouldn't have done that, and then, like, literally goes and does it again the next day. It's like, that was really like, it's just Groundhog Day.

[Juliet Porter]

He's. Yeah. And for like 10 years he's been doing the same thing over and over.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. So I would be curious to hear from Britney, like, in real time how he is treating her in the divorce. Like, if he's being amicable and like giving her the things that he want, she wants and like just being reasonable, then like that, that. And that's he should be doing. Like, I would like to hear that. If he's being very difficult and making things hard for her, I don't like that. But there was all this stuff with like, their mortgage that he wasn't paying their mortgage. It was crazy. Their mortgage was $14,000 a month, which is so high, especially because they bought their houses, like, pre Covid, like low interest rates, but apparently had a million dollars in tax taxes that he owed. So he had to like, take a lien on the out on the house. Their mortgage was originally like $8,000. And then he had to like, I don't know, take out money against it. So it went up to like 14,000, then 17,000. And then he didn't pay the mortgage for months. And she was. He was the only one living in the house. She didn't.

[Juliet Porter]

We know that much about their financial situation is so sad.

[Jackson Claude]

No, no, I know. Not that you.

[Juliet Porter]

Not, you know, in their mortgage payment.

[Jackson Claude]

I need to know. And then I need. When they said their mortgage was $14,000 a month, I'm like, literally how.

[Juliet Porter]

Like, I don't own anything.

[Jackson Claude]

By the way, when they bought their houses, like when it was 2% mortgage interest rate. So, like, I don't even know how.

[Juliet Porter]

That must be a really expensive house. Or they put no money down. Is that how this works?

[Jackson Claude]

Both, but. And actually, no. I think the house was probably like two or three million dollars. So you would think, okay, they put no money down. But still that, like, doesn't add up. But then it turned out he owed a million dollars in taxes, so he had to like, take out money against his house and their rate went up.

[Juliet Porter]

Right, right, right. Okay, that makes sense.

[Jackson Claude]

And I needed to know that in order to be mad at him enough for. To understand why she's leaving.

[Juliet Porter]

Because at the end of the day, that's the biggest thing is you have to take care of your family.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Juliet Porter]

And he's causing issues.

[Jackson Claude]

So like, then she left the house with the kid, got a rental, was like paying for the rental. And so he's in the house alone. Like, obviously he should be Paying for the mortgage. He always paid the mortgage, and she paid the bills. And then he stops paying the mortgage, and she doesn't find out until, like, five, six months later. And it's like, well, the house is going to go into foreclosure, and she'll never be able to buy a house again.

[Juliet Porter]

Oh, my gosh. Like, your credit score is gonna be.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, right. Like, that's psychotic behavior.

[Juliet Porter]

So do we need to get Jax a brand deal?

[Jackson Claude]

No, he's not brand safe.

[Juliet Porter]

Jax, he needs to pay his mortgage.

[Jackson Claude]

But where did all his money go? Coke. Is that real? Like, millions of dollars?

[Juliet Porter]

I don't know. I don't know. He's not, like, a rock star. Like, I can't imagine how much drugs he was. Was he doing other drugs? Like, other things? He was cheating, maybe? Not on her. Did he cheat on her?

[Jackson Claude]

I think he did cheat on her in their marriage. I don't think he was paying. I think it was free.

[Juliet Porter]

Right. I was. I was thinking more like trip to Vegas. Oops, I dropped 10k at the strip club. Yeah. People are dumb.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. So the guy from Jersey Shore situation. Well, yeah, he didn't pay.

[Juliet Porter]

Like, he didn't pay. No one tell you?

[Jackson Claude]

Well, I mean, that's just a thing.

[Juliet Porter]

You have to pay taxes.

[Jackson Claude]

So, like, when you started making money, like, outside of traditional work, so, like, from the show and from brand deals, like, what did you do financially? Like, did you hire someone?

[Juliet Porter]

So I overpaid. I'm. I'm super afraid of. I overpaid by $50,000. And then I got a new accountant. She's like, you really. You really overpaid? I'm so afraid of breaking the law.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Juliet Porter]

So I'm. I always pay my taxes, like, everything. I. I don't pay my tickets, though. I. Wait, I pay them all in, like, one at one time at the end of the year, which is probably irresponsible.

[Jackson Claude]

Why? I. You have, like, lie. Like, logging onto the portal is such a pain in the butt.

[Juliet Porter]

I'd rather go in person. I live next to, like, City hall in Miami Beach. I just walk in and 200 bucks a year. I'm like, here.

[Jackson Claude]

That is really funny. Yeah, no, I get a lot of, like, mails from, like, the toll. I'm like, I don't even drive on the highway. I.

[Juliet Porter]

My car tolls in Florida.

[Jackson Claude]

My car was stolen.

[Juliet Porter]

Wait, what?

[Jackson Claude]

No, I'm kidding. Like, someone else is driving my car. Like, I literally don't drive on the highway.

[Juliet Porter]

No, they're everywhere. They're, like, hidden There's a bridge called Venetian on the beach, $5.

[Jackson Claude]

I don't have an easy pass, a sun pass. Neither do I, really.

[Juliet Porter]

Yeah. And I have lived here my whole life.

[Jackson Claude]

Do you ever, like, go home? Like, cross state?

[Juliet Porter]

I go home and it's. I think it's $4. Across Alligator Alley, which is over the.

[Jackson Claude]

Evans. I know Alligator. Oh, yeah.

[Juliet Porter]

You know. You know, now I've been.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, we went to Naples. Estero. Yeah. Is that.

[Juliet Porter]

Yeah, that's Naples.

[Jackson Claude]

We went to see Rascal Flats. Best night ever.

[Juliet Porter]

How was it?

[Jackson Claude]

It was amazing. I'm obsessed with them. I actually had a dream, maybe it was last night or the night before that. Like, Rascal Flats were doing a show near me, and I was like, they.

[Juliet Porter]

Have a lot of concerts here.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, they do. Like, in. You mean South. Like, yeah, there's a lot of good shows. Rascal Flats, like, need to tour more. Like, get back to work, get back in the studio. But I'm glad that I was able to see them in Estero.

[Juliet Porter]

I'm seeing Coldplay. I'm so excited. July 26 at the Hard Rock. I. So I was. I love Coldplay. I was, like, scrolling refreshing. I was like, do I fly to Auckland, New Zealand to go to Coldplay? Because they, like, never do shows. And as I'm refreshing, I see that Miami pops up. And I was like, is this a lie? Am I high right now? Because I just saw it wasn't there. It was there. It immediately popped up. I bought seven tickets, like, right there on the spot.

[Jackson Claude]

That's so exciting.

[Juliet Porter]

So now we're all going. We're getting, like, a party bus. I'm so excited.

[Jackson Claude]

Who are you going with?

[Juliet Porter]

All my girls, all my friends. My brother, his wife.

[Jackson Claude]

Your friends from home, Miami. Oh, right. Your new friends. You said you have all new friends. Like, the other ones can kick rocks.

[Juliet Porter]

Oh, no.

[Jackson Claude]

But you're still friends with, like, your OG girls, like, Hannah and the cousin Lexi.

[Juliet Porter]

Lexi. Lexi lives down the street, by the way. Like, her house is right over there.

[Jackson Claude]

Her apartment. Oh, my God. That is so funny.

[Juliet Porter]

No, I'm totally still friends with them. I just don't see them. It's different. Whatever, losers.

[Jackson Claude]

You're dead to me. Yeah, no, you're not. With my new influencer friends. Sorry. Bye.

[Juliet Porter]

Bye.

[Jackson Claude]

Our next story is some beauty news. And usually a haircut doesn't make news. However, Sofia Richie has debuted her dramatic French bob hair transformation for summer. And I think everyone's getting ideas.

[Juliet Porter]

She's just perfect. She can do no wrong.

[Jackson Claude]

No, she is so perfect. I love this haircut in general. I'm always pro people cutting their hair. I think it always just, like, elevates them and, like, just enters a new era of your life. And she's already in that era, so, like, now the hair matches.

[Juliet Porter]

It fits her so well.

[Jackson Claude]

And I know, like, people out there now feeling tempted to do it. And I know. I know, like, other people are cautioning you not to do it, but I'm always gonna say, like, do it. I want to see more girls with this haircut.

[Juliet Porter]

I think it works for her because she's just so elegant. Like, she gives Princess Diana. Yeah, just this, like, rich mom, like, European summer. She's just perfect. Yeah, she's gorgeous, and it really works for her. I think it will look good on a lot of girls. I just do think it's kind of. Of mature. I mean, how old is she?

[Jackson Claude]

It is mature.

[Juliet Porter]

She's young. She's younger than me, which makes me feel a certain type of way.

[Jackson Claude]

She's 26.

[Juliet Porter]

Okay. So younger than me. No, but she's just. It works so well. I do think the girly should do it. I just. I caution you, once you do it, it takes a minute to go back.

[Jackson Claude]

Yes. And also, like, if you want to walk the walk, you have to talk the talk to, like, we. It's a whole vibe. Like, you have to take on the whole per. You can't just, like, be out there with, like, the booty jeans hanging out of your shorts.

[Juliet Porter]

You have to have your hair done, too, and wear the elegant outfit.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. No, you have to go all the way. Like, it's not gonna, like, look good with.

[Juliet Porter]

Right. You need to wear, like, something like this.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, you look so cute.

[Juliet Porter]

Like, I could do a bob.

[Jackson Claude]

I. I will tell you to do it.

[Juliet Porter]

I won't, though. Cause I just feel like I really do believe that I need it's, like, more of, like, a marriage haircut.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. No.

[Juliet Porter]

Is that fair to say it is?

[Jackson Claude]

I used to have a bob, and I think it really ushered me into a more mature era of my life and, like, forced me to, like. I don't know. It just, like, changed my vibe in a good way. And then, like, it's been growing out. And I always say, like, when I'm, like, in full, like, mom, like, done having, like, I wouldn't want to be, like, pregnant with a Bob and just, like, have a lot going on. But, like, you know, in the next phase of my life, like, I'm going back like, PTA mom with a bob.

[Juliet Porter]

Love that for you.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, that's where you'll catch me, but it will be a while.

[Juliet Porter]

You're not a PTA mom yet.

[Jackson Claude]

No, no, no. I'm so, like, your oldest three.

[Juliet Porter]

Oh, you.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, I'm just a toddler mom. I need my hair.

[Juliet Porter]

Yeah, you need your hair still. You're not. Right. I feel like. Yeah. Once you are, like, really working and picking up, like, five kids a day. Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

And, like, soccer and, like, all this. Yeah, that's the vibe. But, like, right now, I need to be able to put my hair in a messy bun. Like, I'm in the messy bun phase.

[Juliet Porter]

I love that for you.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. So if you're thinking about cutting your hair, this is your sign to do it. Okay. Juliette's gonna say no, and I'm gonna say yes.

[Juliet Porter]

But if you do it, like, make sure you go to a great hairdresser.

[Jackson Claude]

That's true.

[Juliet Porter]

Yeah. You need, like, those, like, flowy layers. I mean, who. Who did her hair?

[Jackson Claude]

Oh, I think was Chris McMillan, of course. Yes. And Jake.

[Juliet Porter]

Shane's, like, always in the background.

[Jackson Claude]

Yes. Jake.

[Juliet Porter]

How did they.

[Jackson Claude]

They've been friends. Like, he used to work for her husband, like, in his corporate role. Like, before he. When he started, like, his social media, he was. Or her assistant. Like, he works for one of them.

[Juliet Porter]

And that's, like, a fair. Wasn't just like, oh, famous. I'm famous.

[Jackson Claude]

No, like, he was friends with them before he got famous.

[Juliet Porter]

I love that. I love that type of. Of story, because it doesn't feel like someone's latching on to the other.

[Jackson Claude]

No, they're, like, real friends.

[Juliet Porter]

Love that.

[Jackson Claude]

I love that, too.

[Juliet Porter]

Yeah, that's cute.

[Jackson Claude]

Also, you know, I'm going to try and convince my sister Margo to do this haircut. She's my guinea pig. Yeah.

[Juliet Porter]

I love Margot. How's she doing?

[Jackson Claude]

She's good. She's so cute. She's in New York. You and her should go on Summer House together.

[Juliet Porter]

We. Oh, my God. She should so do Summer House.

[Jackson Claude]

I mean, I think when she was on the toast, we were talking about it. People always say that about her. She would never do it. She's not cut out for reality tv, you know, Summer House looks easy. Yeah.

[Juliet Porter]

My show was way harder than it seems like Summer House was. People were getting, like, pregnant. I was getting in fights. Summerhouse is tame. It's like Paige yelling at Kyle over an investment of a fricking Craig.

[Jackson Claude]

And it feels odd. It's detached from their real lives. Like, you go out there and, like, you do stuff for the summer house. And then like you come back and have your actual life. You're cst key was your actual life, your actual boyfriends and friendships.

[Juliet Porter]

But I think it really, really has to do with too they're able to separate and be mature about certain things and put on a show, I think.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Juliet Porter]

Whereas, like, I was just so out of touch with that world because I was so young in a small town that it just everything blended together to just make this like perfect mixture of chaos.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. And like not know how to like compartmentalize like 100%.

[Juliet Porter]

I was like, I'm gonna be lying and I would believe it.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. I'm gonna be this way like on the show. And then like, I know what I. But like, you were just so in it, which makes for good tv. But then you're seeing people like ripped apart and it's like, well, that's not good for you.

[Juliet Porter]

Which is what we're seeing with these shows where these people like Love island, again, it's like they. I don't think they're able to differentiate what is like for TV and what's not because especially they're in like this bubble.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. And I think also like the game element of the show has really been played up this season less so than the love. And so you really need to be like hard headed, like where you have to. Where you need to fall in love to be on the show, but you need to also be able to like, separate. Like, I don't care about these people, I don't care about these friends because, like you're voting them off every other impossible task. Yeah. It's like traitors these days.

[Juliet Porter]

It really is. It looks so hard to be on Love Island. Like I couldn't do it.

[Jackson Claude]

But I do think for them at least the payoff is is serious because they'll come off the show and they'll have a completely new life. Look at Jalen.

[Juliet Porter]

I'm so happy for Jalen.

[Jackson Claude]

Oh my God. I was saying last night, I was talking to Claudia, I was like, I need someone to get a word to the islanders about like the fact that Jalen has 1.4 million TikToks.

[Juliet Porter]

My favorite thing about. And it's the worst thing about Love island, they have no idea that they are a trending audio. The mamacita thing. They have no. Huda has no idea. She thinks apparently America does love her. But like, she thinks they just have no concept of what's going on out here.

[Jackson Claude]

No. But like, I think the biggest shock to them of everything that's happened while they were in the villa. Is that Jalen. Two day stint. Jalen has 1.4 million followers.

[Juliet Porter]

Insane. I'm so happy for him. I hope that it lasts. I hope that. The only problem I see with this is that he doesn't actually know how to make, like, content yet. So I hope that he does.

[Jackson Claude]

I hope he hires someone or just.

[Juliet Porter]

Like, yeah, really puts in the work there so that people stick with him. And he. Especially if he wants to be a travel influencer, I want to see that. Like, let's make that conversation.

[Jackson Claude]

But we have to give him grace as he navigates this new chapter.

[Juliet Porter]

Of course. I'm so. And then the picture with his grandma.

[Jackson Claude]

No, I'm obsessed. But yeah. And the one he needs to hire someone so that, like, he can just state being Jalen.

[Juliet Porter]

Send him, like, PR boxes.

[Jackson Claude]

You need to send him JMP swagger. I should do you do men's.

[Juliet Porter]

I do. I. I want to. I want to have, like, everyone sending him everything. I want stuff for his grandma.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, they wear your suits on the show at all? Like, to have any of the girls? I did.

[Juliet Porter]

Not on Love island, but Temptation Island. I gifted everybody every. Pretty much everybody in, like, the first episode wore my suits, which that show ended up being like, I haven't seen it, but it was crazy.

[Jackson Claude]

Tyler C. Was just saying that he watched it.

[Juliet Porter]

Apparently it's really good, but it's. I have a hard time watching, like, really, really raunchy things.

[Jackson Claude]

Love island is painful in that sense only during the challenges. Because that's the only time they, like, get sexy. And the rest of the time, they're like nuns in there.

[Juliet Porter]

Exactly. No. They won't kiss their, like, actual match and then they have to all make out.

[Jackson Claude]

No. And, like, when someone, like, likes someone, they're like a kiss on the cheek and then they go into the challenge where they're seriously, like, someone is about to give, like, a blowjob at a challenge.

[Juliet Porter]

We were saying. Is that okay? Because I know for a fact, like, well, I don't know about Love island, but I know on other things that I've done you. There's like, hipaa, so they can't make you take a test for any of these, like, STDs.

[Jackson Claude]

Okay.

[Juliet Porter]

But I imagine I would be worried. Like, I don't have oral herpes. I'm lucky a lot of people have it. I've never had a cold sore. I have no plans on getting one. I don't want to be making out with 12 people.

[Jackson Claude]

I assume that they've all been tested, even though it. For the past few weeks, it does look like a cold sore is being passed around Villa.

[Juliet Porter]

It's bad. I. They might.

[Jackson Claude]

They have to be.

[Juliet Porter]

Then what. Then what do you do? She can't kiss. She has to sit out the challenge.

[Jackson Claude]

Can't be on the show if you have. If you have an active herpe.

[Juliet Porter]

I mean, I agree, but I don't think that's how it works.

[Jackson Claude]

I'm sorry. That.

[Juliet Porter]

I agree.

[Jackson Claude]

And then you do these challenges where literally, like, at every stop, you have to kiss the per. Like, you can't force people.

[Juliet Porter]

I don't want to kiss a lot. Like, I'm not really attracted to anyone on Love Island. What would I do about that?

[Jackson Claude]

No, it's so. And then they think that, like, in these challenges, like, we're gonna see if there's chemistry. Like, while I make out with four different people and act like it's the best thing I've ever done.

[Juliet Porter]

And you're just all slopping.

[Jackson Claude]

No, it's. It's actually. It's on. It's not watchable. That milk challenge was so disgusting. Like, I get queasy easily. I'm a pregnant woman. Like, this is offensive.

[Juliet Porter]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

To me.

[Juliet Porter]

Yeah. I feel bad for Paige. I can't imagine. Because I think a lot of people don't realize, like, these shows take hours to film.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Juliet Porter]

Like, they're sitting there, and there's no music. There's.

[Jackson Claude]

They're.

[Juliet Porter]

They're not really drinking. They're just sitting there all day long.

[Jackson Claude]

They're not. They get one glass of wine at night in those cups.

[Juliet Porter]

I see. I need at least three.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Juliet Porter]

Because I get so bored. And if you're just. There's no phones, there's no tv. You're just sitting there talking to each other every single day. All night. All day. I would be just so bored.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. Okay. We're gonna get to Love Island. We are. I promise. We're almost there. Our next story is actually some really sweet love news. Billy Ray Cyrus and his girlfriend Elizabeth Hurley have a romantic date night in London to support Miley's new film. So Miley's new film is her album Film Something Beautiful. Don't get excited. The last song sequel is not out, but I wish Billy Wright and Elizabeth Hurley went out to support Miley's new film Something Beautiful. They stepped out together, like, seriously looking like a legit couple. Now he looks scary as ever, but that's not stopping her from, like, she's being, like, Queenie Elizabeth Hurley.

[Juliet Porter]

Why do I think he looks kind of good?

[Jackson Claude]

Why do you think he looks kind of.

[Juliet Porter]

Did he lose weight?

[Jackson Claude]

He looks really scary.

[Juliet Porter]

Jesus. Kinda.

[Jackson Claude]

His shirt is the scariest part. I would say.

[Juliet Porter]

That's a horrible outfit. Who is she?

[Jackson Claude]

Elizabeth Hurley, British actress.

[Juliet Porter]

I don't know her.

[Jackson Claude]

You definitely do. She's like a class. She was.

[Juliet Porter]

Name a movie.

[Jackson Claude]

I mean, Bedazzled with Brendan Fraser comes to mind, but, like, I wouldn't be surprised if you haven't seen that.

[Juliet Porter]

I haven't. I've seen Elizabeth Jungle.

[Jackson Claude]

Did you ever watch the Royals on E. News. On E. News. She's from Austin Powers.

[Juliet Porter]

Okay.

[Jackson Claude]

She's like the. She's from Gossip Girl. She was hooking up with.

[Juliet Porter]

I have. I seem to have missed everything she's been in.

[Jackson Claude]

Oh, my God. You're missing out.

[Juliet Porter]

Well, so we're happy for them. I thought Miley didn't like this.

[Jackson Claude]

No, Miley likes this. And I do think she's been like a. Yeah. I think she's reconciling with her dad. And I think Lizzie has been a force for good in his life because, like, he's slowly getting back together with his family. Like, I. I think he was spiraling and she sort of stabilized him and, like, made him more palatable to the rest of his family. So. Yeah, it's, like, a really good thing. Why Elizabeth Hurley is, like, attracted to. To him in this era of his life, I will never know.

[Juliet Porter]

Yeah. Dating a man coming from, like, a broken family must be, like, a little tough. Especially Miley Cyrus's father.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. No, and, like, there's so many different aspects of.

[Juliet Porter]

There's like, 10 kids.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, three.

[Juliet Porter]

Right?

[Jackson Claude]

There's four. Five.

[Juliet Porter]

Five.

[Jackson Claude]

I think there's five.

[Juliet Porter]

Trace, the brother is, like, going off on Instagram.

[Jackson Claude]

He's going off?

[Juliet Porter]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

I can't even go there. But, like, then Miley and Noah have their own beef, then the mom, and then they do. Yeah. Because we didn't love Noah. There was, like, another weird drama where the mom got remarried.

[Juliet Porter]

Okay. And, like, Noah didn't like this. Right.

[Jackson Claude]

Noah apparently, like, dated that.

[Juliet Porter]

Oh, my God. Well, fair. But that's really fair.

[Jackson Claude]

If she. I don't know.

[Juliet Porter]

It's my mother.

[Jackson Claude]

But the thing is, everyone sided with Tish, so, like, I don't feel like that's exactly what happened. Given what we do know, why did.

[Juliet Porter]

They side with Tish? Because Miley did.

[Jackson Claude]

No, I think because Tish probably didn't do it. I think Noah probably did more wrong than Tish. Like, I Don't know if Noah actually dated. Like, we need to get to the bottom. That's really weird. I don't like to talk about it.

[Juliet Porter]

Because, like, you don't know for sure what happened.

[Jackson Claude]

No, because it's like, disturbing. Oh, yeah. I just want to, like, think about the Cyrus family being happy and just like, push that away.

[Juliet Porter]

Miley. Miley seems really good to me. She seems stable. I love her. I've never loved her more.

[Jackson Claude]

I agree.

[Juliet Porter]

I've never loved her more. She just seems so confident and secure in herself and I love her. I just, I want the best for her.

[Jackson Claude]

I completely agree. And so ultimately, Elizabeth Hurley being with her father is best for Miley because he's like, coming to the premiere. She's happy and he's supporting her. And I think she's bringing up like the. The average of the family.

[Juliet Porter]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

Even though it's obviously very high. I think it's good. I think it's good. It's shocking.

[Juliet Porter]

It's shocking. But you know what? Everybody has a crazy family. Maybe not that crazy, but we prevail.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. Our next story is a bit of great music news as well because Tom Sandoval has auditioned for America's Got Talent with his band. Tom Sandoval on the most extras. So Tom, the name. Yeah, that's the name of his band, Tom.

[Juliet Porter]

And that's a very good name for that.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, no, he nailed it with the extra for sure. And they were sort of like the butt of the joke on the last few seasons of Vanderpump Rules. He spent all his money, like paying his band members and getting studio time. And then he went out on tour right as scandal happened. And I think the only people who were really going to his show were like going there to heckle him, which is also like not great. Like stay, like stay home.

[Juliet Porter]

I kind of feel for him in that sense.

[Jackson Claude]

I'm starting to like feel for him a little bit just because, like so much time has passed. I guess someone at America's Got Talent has a sense of humor because they invited him and his band to audition and they're a cover band. Like, they're really like a. Almost like a wedding cover band. Like whatever.

[Juliet Porter]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

I don't watch a lot of America's Got Talent, so I don't know if a lot of like mid level talented people audition just like for shits and giggles.

[Juliet Porter]

I think this is a rare occurrence.

[Jackson Claude]

It is so odd that they. This is for audition.

[Juliet Porter]

This is what I think when I.

[Jackson Claude]

Watch clips of America's Got Talent. It's like some of the most talented.

[Juliet Porter]

People from, like, a different part of the world or like a small. And it's like a really cool talent.

[Jackson Claude]

Someone singing someone else's song, like with a 15 piece band.

[Juliet Porter]

That's my thing about the band. There's like 10 of them.

[Jackson Claude]

No. And he pays them.

[Juliet Porter]

Oh, that's really sweet. Honestly, if, like, they're not making any money. But he wants to keep the band together, so he's out of his vanderpump money. Paying them is, like, really sad.

[Jackson Claude]

No, it's. It's sad. And at this point, like, I hope that they have. I'm. I'm happy for them that they went on America's Got Talent. They don't even want to, like, talk shit because it's like.

[Juliet Porter]

No, I'm happy for them. I agree. I think, like, I don't like him. Every time he opens his mouth, I'm upset.

[Jackson Claude]

No.

[Juliet Porter]

But I do feel like we need to move on. And Ariana, I love her. I'm so. Team Ariana.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, she's so moved on. She's.

[Juliet Porter]

She's making way more money than him. She won by a landslide. Let's give him like a little. A little less hate, I guess.

[Jackson Claude]

I think people liked him from Traders. He was on last season. Did you watch?

[Juliet Porter]

I watched a little bit of it. I was there for Dylan Efron and Sierra. I wasn't there for. Didn't he get out pretty early, though?

[Jackson Claude]

I didn't watch. And he was on Special Forces with Tyler.

[Juliet Porter]

That's right.

[Jackson Claude]

Would you ever do Special Forces?

[Juliet Porter]

You know, I feel like I would.

[Jackson Claude]

Really fail, but based on what Tyler said, and I feel like it was hard for him and he's like a grown, big, strong man. I don't think you should do it.

[Juliet Porter]

I like to think that I can do stuff like that.

[Jackson Claude]

You're very fit.

[Juliet Porter]

I just said, like, I'm not.

[Jackson Claude]

You are doing Barry's. You're the queen of bar.

[Juliet Porter]

No, but I think that I, like, crumble under pressure.

[Jackson Claude]

Are you mentally tough?

[Juliet Porter]

I am. But then, like, I don't know. I just every. Every time I think I'm gonna win in, like, these types of, like, games or events, I don't win.

[Jackson Claude]

Interesting.

[Juliet Porter]

I have, like, I did a show similar to this and I didn't win anything.

[Jackson Claude]

So the one that you did.

[Juliet Porter]

Yes.

[Jackson Claude]

With, like, challenges and stuff.

[Juliet Porter]

Yes. Didn't win a single one.

[Jackson Claude]

Interesting.

[Juliet Porter]

I think when the moment comes and you're like, in that position, like, things get a lot harder than you Think than you think they would be.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. No, he said it was, like, so extreme. It wasn't like, fake Hollywood.

[Juliet Porter]

His challenges, like.

[Jackson Claude]

Oh, I don't know. He was talking about being in some, like, icy thing.

[Juliet Porter]

Why would I. Why would I want to. It depends on how much money I'm getting, and I do want to see if I could.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. Like, the mental. Yeah. And how you would come out the other side.

[Juliet Porter]

Yeah. Like, would that make me stronger? Like, being able to say that I accomplished some of that stuff would be awesome. But, like, why would I put myself through, like, a cold plunge or, like, go to, like, live in the ice? Like, why would I do that?

[Jackson Claude]

I don't know. That's what I was saying to him. I was like, when you're in those things, are you, like, regretting signing up for the show? Because I would seriously run.

[Juliet Porter]

I mean, part of me, like, always wanted to be in the army. Like, I have, like, all these, like, random jobs I, like, wish I did just to see if I could.

[Jackson Claude]

Okay, so then you should go on Special Forces just to scratch that itch.

[Juliet Porter]

You're right. It's just, like, one of those little things about me. I'm like, what if I was a pilot? Like, I think about that stuff a lot.

[Jackson Claude]

You should do it. It could also be a good place to meet someone. I don't. I know you don't want to date a reality star, but I think, like, the guys who would go on Special Forces would be, like, strong.

[Juliet Porter]

They have, like, real army people. Like, I would date an officer I ship. Yeah. Like, put me in my place.

[Jackson Claude]

You guys, if any Special Forces casting directors are watching, even though I'm sure you have teams of people who could just, you know, sign you up. I love this.

[Juliet Porter]

I love this. Like, this could be a thing I want to try to do. Traitors, though, like, that I find more interesting and fun.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. And, like, easy compared to Special Forces.

[Juliet Porter]

But I love a mind game. Like, that's a. Sounds like a fun game.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Juliet Porter]

But I don't think I could lie. I'm a really bad liar.

[Jackson Claude]

Did you ever think about. Because you. Siesta Key was on mtv, did you ever think about doing the Challenge or, like, X on the Beach?

[Juliet Porter]

They never asked me, which I thought was strange.

[Jackson Claude]

That's strange.

[Juliet Porter]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

Did anyone from Siesta Key do those shows?

[Juliet Porter]

No. I feel like they. I talked a lot of shit about mtv, though. I don't know if that has to. To do with it.

[Jackson Claude]

I don't know. I feel like everybody who's on mtv, like, talks shit about that.

[Juliet Porter]

I mean, there's a dying. It's a dying network.

[Jackson Claude]

Well, damn. I feel like that's just a part of me. Like, Kristen also, like.

[Juliet Porter]

I mean, one example was, like, they would never invite us to the VMAs, which is just, like. That should be our one reward.

[Jackson Claude]

Right.

[Juliet Porter]

Obviously, we got paid, but, like, that was just something. And I'm like, so you're not even pay. Like, you won't even bring. You won't even invite us?

[Jackson Claude]

Why. But they had no money. Well, I feel like I've seen you.

[Juliet Porter]

They had to, like, I went the first. Okay. It was the first year, 2017, before our show even aired. They flew us all out. It was this whole thing. And then I think the merger happened with Viacom, who. Who owns mtv. And I just think. I don't know. It must have been a money thing. It was never, like, personal, but.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, but the other shows would go.

[Juliet Porter]

They would invite, like. Yes, they would invite people from other networks. Like, Vanderpump would go. Or, like, it was just odd to me, that is. And that always rubbed me wrong.

[Jackson Claude]

That's surprising. Yeah. We got to get you to the VMAs. I can't help you with that.

[Juliet Porter]

It's okay. I don't need to go.

[Jackson Claude]

You're over it.

[Juliet Porter]

I want to go to, like, the Oscars or something. Take me somewhere really cool. I want to wear, like, a nice fancy dress.

[Jackson Claude]

What about, like, do you ever do People's choice?

[Juliet Porter]

No.

[Jackson Claude]

You weren't, like, People's Choice. Reality star.

[Juliet Porter]

I don't think we were quite big enough.

[Jackson Claude]

I understand.

[Juliet Porter]

Who won that award.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, it's always a Kardashian, right? Yeah.

[Juliet Porter]

Yeah. I don't think I'm in that kind of.

[Jackson Claude]

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When you subscribe to their 5 day program just visit prolonlife.com toast that's P R O L O N l I f e.com toast to claim your 15 discount and your bonus gift. Prolonlife.com toast our fifth and final story is going to lead into our Love island recap because Love Island USA is accused of rigging voting after favorites go home and shock elimination as fans are raging. I'm done watching. Oh okay. So me thanks the sun for voicing how I feel. Yes force so accurate. For sure the votes were not accurate. Like I think some people who are most popular got to stay of course why are they going to kick off the most popular? But for example huda is not like.

[Juliet Porter]

Can'T have been right.

[Jackson Claude]

But the more I think about it, like, the more producers are not letting Huda go. Like, she has saved their season. This season has really been God awful, except for the Hood and Jeremiah saga, which was just, like, so shocking and such a whirlwind that it really captivated people. But, like, as far as connections or, like, really meeting great people from the show, it's not amazing. She's kind of like, saved their season and I don't think they're gonna send her home. This would have been her third time in the bottom three, and I think the girls would have actually. They don't know how to vote, so they probably wouldn't have voted her home because that would have been the correct choice. But I don't think producers were going to leave it up to chance because they need her. Plus, knowing that the next day is Casa More, she will be. She will thrive in Casa More. We'll get to see her from, like.

[Juliet Porter]

You're right.

[Jackson Claude]

From the zero to, like, you know, she gets five guys to choose between. Like, that will be entertaining television. And they were not going to give that up. So I can almost, like, understand why they saved her. But I know, like, for sure the votes were rigged in that sense. The way that these islanders are voting for the people that they have to dump from the island, like, they need to lose their voting rights because they. What are they?

[Juliet Porter]

I have a lot of thoughts on this. This. The guys are jealous of Jeremiah.

[Jackson Claude]

Oh, for sure.

[Juliet Porter]

And I think Ace is a snake.

[Jackson Claude]

I was anti Ace because I just think he's, like, faking things with Shelly and I'm, like, so bored by them. Yeah, it's supposed to be. I think they wanted to create this, like, story of adversity where, like, they didn't. We weren't with each other and now they're together and they think they're gonna go all the way and win and. But I do think, like, some of the fans are falling for it, which, if that's the case, then, like, and those are your winners. Great. Like, but I just think anybody on.

[Juliet Porter]

T TikTok knows that they've, like, known each other.

[Jackson Claude]

Right? That's like the thing coming out about them. And they said that they knew each other, they met outside a club, and now there's, like, other stuff that he was. She was like his valentine. And they, like, came on the show to win and they've just been sort of. Even if that would.

[Juliet Porter]

Honestly, how. How would the producers not know that?

[Jackson Claude]

I don't know.

[Juliet Porter]

Because out of every person that they cast they happen to cast two people that know each other. That's like, crazy.

[Jackson Claude]

I really feel like they cast it a lot from Instagram, like, more than ever. Like, I feel like everybody who on the show already has a platform and, like, they're all content creators, which is fine. But I think when you're all content creators, like, you know your fellow. That's true.

[Juliet Porter]

People are like, it's Los Angeles or.

[Jackson Claude]

Wherever they're from, if you see them on like the Explore page, whatever, like, so I don't think that's so, so crazy. Plus, Love island is a huge cast. Probably by the end of the show, they go through like 30 or 40 people, like, of 23 year olds with semi decent Instagram followings who are incredibly beautiful. Like, it's possible. I just think Ace and Shelley are so boring and I'm not seeing, like, any chemistry between them. So whatever show they think they're putting on is, like, not happening for me. And I was like, really against him, except when he was the one, like, really bringing Hood and Jeremiah to task and like, not letting it go. And I was like, okay, I'm with you. But now he. It's a thing he has against Jeremiah because Jeremiah is doing exactly what he should be doing.

[Juliet Porter]

Thank you.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, he got out of his relationship with Hoda, which everyone said was toxic. It was too much, too soon. And it got like, so dramatic and nasty. And he made the mature choice and he chose Iris. Even though he's like, not, not into her romantically. He just wants to close the chapter on Huda. Did the right thing there. Then he starts earnestly trying to find connections. His dream girl walks into the villa. Thankfully, she likes him too. And they're. And like, the way he's talking to her and going about and moving in.

[Juliet Porter]

The building he's supposed to do, it's.

[Jackson Claude]

Like what a guy who's looking for a relationship should do. He seems like he doesn't have good friendships with the other guys, except for Austin. And that's why I think they voted him off. But also, like, him kissing Andrina in front of everyone, like, put a target on his back because if they didn't, they all want to hook up with her. So if they get rid of him, they have a chance. Like Nick 100 Nick.

[Juliet Porter]

I got that. But like Ace, I think they're not all going to get her.

[Jackson Claude]

No, but they, they're jealous of him. And if he's there, they're locked in. But if he's not there, then she has to talk to the Rest of them.

[Juliet Porter]

That's exactly what I was thinking. They're jealous.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. So I think that the boys voted for him to go because they're incredibly stupid and they. And like, like, you just broke up two real couples. And this is Love island isn't traitors. Like, if they're not here to form relationships, if they're going to be penalized for that, then, like, what's the point? We need to go back to like regular eliminations. We haven't had like just a. A dumping like a normal one since Bella, where people like you get dumped if nobody likes you like that you.

[Juliet Porter]

Don'T have a couple. It should have been Amaya and maybe Pepe.

[Jackson Claude]

Austin.

[Juliet Porter]

Austin. Austin.

[Jackson Claude]

Austin and Amaya were the correct choice. If anything, if the producers really want the villagers, the Villas to dump the cat, the girls should have voted which boy should go home and the boy should have voted which girls should go home. Because the girls would have been like, none of us like Austin and he's been here a while and none of us are going to. And it's time for him to go. So. Right. And like, Hannah would have stuck up for Pepe. I don't know.

[Juliet Porter]

So true.

[Jackson Claude]

They might have voted Jeremiah off because I do think Huda was the leading voice in the girls discussion, but they would have had a chance and then the boys would have, of course, sent Amaya home because they know that Iris and Hannah are into other guys and they all have spoken to Amaya. None of us like her in that way. None of us are going to. So, like, it's her time to go because Austin and Amaya are the ones who should have gotten home. Sorry. And now we're going into Casa and more and we don't have that many solid couples. So why is this interesting to me to watch more people's.

[Juliet Porter]

Exactly. Jeremiah would have been. First of all, he's the most beautiful by a landslide. I liked watching my screen. I liked what was forming between him and Andrea. Andrina.

[Jackson Claude]

Uh huh. Andrea.

[Juliet Porter]

I liked that. I feel like there would have been a girl in there for sure. I bet several girls would have went after him. I feel like Ace too. Like, I just feel like. I don't know why. I also think it's kind of messed up that they let America vote. They tell these people that America doesn't like them, essentially. I feel like that's so mean.

[Jackson Claude]

Well, they do and they don't. They leave it like, ambiguous because, like the three.

[Juliet Porter]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

They leave three.

[Juliet Porter]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, I feel like Iris shouldn't have a chip on her shoulder because she just got there. We haven't gotten a chance to get to know her. America, like, threw her into the lion's den by putting her in a relationship with Jeremiah. And it really would not have been fair if she got sent home because that would mean she never had a shot. But look at Jalen. Never had a shot and got sent home. So I wouldn't put it past him. I was honestly really glad that it wasn't Iris because now she has something going with tj. I think they're so cute. And she deserves, like, she's put. She's handled herself correctly in every situation. Like, she deserves to have a good time now. So thankfully, I think I would have been most upset if Iris went home. Like, I'm really rooting for her and Hannah. I really. I like Hannah. But ever since what she did to my Charlie, like, I turned on her. Like, I really loved Hannah and Charlie and I could have been open. I, like Charlie moved too quickly with Pepe. Like, weren't they.

[Juliet Porter]

Wasn't there a little jump start?

[Jackson Claude]

Oh, the spit start heard around the world couldn't.

[Juliet Porter]

Could never be me.

[Jackson Claude]

No. That was so crazy. Especially when the night before she's crying about Charlie, like, wailing. And so I think I would have been fine with Hannah and Pepe. And I actually really like Pepe.

[Juliet Porter]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

If he likes her, like, I think that, like, speaks to her character even more. She just got, like, too into him too fast, and it just negated everything she had with Charlie. I'm sorry. When you dis Charlie, you dis me because I'm not over him.

[Juliet Porter]

I just. I just am still, like, I'm stunned that they sent Jeremiah home. I really feel like we need. Like, there needs to be. Like, you get to bring someone back.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, that's what people are saying. But honestly, everything people are saying has been wrong. They thought we were voting for most popular boy and girl to send them on a date. And you know that the fans, like, have this thing for, like, Nick and Alandria. There are all these, like, fan edits that they think that, like, Nick is really in love with Alandria. But I also think for the fans, like, Nick is their favorite guy, which.

[Juliet Porter]

I. I actually like Nick. He's really growing on me.

[Jackson Claude]

He's really, like, a good guy, except he should be more all in on Sierra than he is. And, like, stop chasing. Like, it's time to lock in.

[Juliet Porter]

I agree. But it's also early and they're about to go through costume.

[Jackson Claude]

How Is it early? If it's Casa More? Casa More is like.

[Juliet Porter]

Well, I don't know if he wants to set expectations if he's about to go in there.

[Jackson Claude]

Right. And I understand. They don't know they're going into Casa. I understand.

[Juliet Porter]

I thought everyone knew that. Isn't that just, like, a thing?

[Jackson Claude]

No, but they don't know that. It's, like, tomorrow.

[Juliet Porter]

Oh, God.

[Jackson Claude]

Right.

[Juliet Porter]

Tonight, right?

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, tonight. I feel like tonight they're gonna hear, they're going, and then it's gonna end, and then, like, in two nights, we'll be able to see what happens. But that's my only qualm with Nick. But, like, whatever. They're young. Like, take your time. He's obviously, like, they're all blinded by this girl, which is just, like, so funny. They're all, like. They would literally all drop their girls to be with her, which is just.

[Juliet Porter]

It's like, you have to have such a strong sense of self to be on this show.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, you really do. Or just, like, be very, like, hard, but also soft because you have to fall in love or else you won't stay on the show. But then you need to be able to be like, okay, you're really having.

[Juliet Porter]

To play two games here. It's the game of love and then the game of, like, get people to like me enough so that I don't leave. I have to get America to like me enough and the people in the house to apparently like me enough.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. But then there's Huda, who. I don't know who will.

[Juliet Porter]

And I agree. Maybe the producers did save her.

[Jackson Claude]

I think the producer saved her 100% for the sake of entertainment, and. And I can be okay with that. But I do think she was leading this discussion amongst the girls, and they didn't show us the deliberation.

[Juliet Porter]

I was gonna say. Are you sure?

[Jackson Claude]

Because, of course, she was the one to send Hannah home because she wants to move in on Pepe after things didn't work out with tj. It's so clear when, like, she's.

[Juliet Porter]

I don't. Okay, what's. What are they saying online? Ace is the leader of the guys, and Huda must be the leader of the girls, which I would not. I just know I would not be friends with Huda.

[Jackson Claude]

No, I. I think that Huda, like, thinks she's leader of the girls, and I think she's, like, none of the other girls want to take up the mantle, because to me, like, Alondra should be the leader of the girls. She's very Radical.

[Juliet Porter]

But she's nice. Yes.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. But it does, like, make me annoyed with Alondra. Like, I feel like in those discussions, I feel like Sierra is very much like, a free spirit. Like, she's not. She doesn't want a leadership role. She's not taking one. Like, I feel like she was probably, like, not really participating. Who was the other person?

[Juliet Porter]

Shelly's too quiet.

[Jackson Claude]

Shelly, Alondra and Huda. Who else? She was in the bottom. I guess it was just the four of them.

[Juliet Porter]

Yeah, just the four.

[Jackson Claude]

So, like, I feel like Shelly and Lingerie are really, like, the voices of reason in the villa. Everyone really likes them, like, on the show and outside. Outside. And I'm honestly disappointed in them that they didn't, like, stand up to whatever Huda wanted and know that what the right decision was, because it was so clear that Amaya is the one that should go home. Like, and her sending Pepe home was just. Them sending Pepe home was just the most transparent thing I ever seen.

[Juliet Porter]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, there. Why? Why should Hannah go home? I mean, them sending Hannah home. I can't. Why should Hannah go home? Why should I go home? She did nothing. Like, she's literally. She. You send home her last boyfriend. She found a new boyfriend.

[Juliet Porter]

It's actually. It's. But it's like, the whole premise of the show. It's like, Amaya wasn't offering anything.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Juliet Porter]

It's not like she was like Huda, which you could argue Huda is, like, the most dramatic and she's gonna continuously bring entertainment. Like, what? I just don't get it.

[Jackson Claude]

No, I don't.

[Juliet Porter]

At least, like, we know America didn't like her. At least put Hood on the bottom three and save her. Fine, Save her then.

[Jackson Claude]

I don't think they would have saved her because.

[Juliet Porter]

Oh, then they would have had to choose.

[Jackson Claude]

They would have had to choose. And I think they would have been like, we're always saving her and maybe not done it. And I don't think producers, like, wanted to leave that up to chance because they need her.

[Juliet Porter]

Think producers let Jeremiah go home. Then it was like. I just don't understand that.

[Jackson Claude]

I feel like they thought if Amaya and Austin went home, it would have just been, like, very obvious. Like, goodbye. Like, people wouldn't be so fired up. Like, we are now. Like, we're very fired up. And I feel like they think that's a good thing. Like, people are invested in the show. Like, oh, my God, did you see last night's episode? But let me tell you, tweets Up. I hate this show. I hate, Like, I just. Nothing makes sense. I was saying to Claudia on the Patreon, like, a lot of it was a lot of the cast members, they're, like, young. So I think that they, like, during COVID were in high school and college and, like, doing remote learning.

[Juliet Porter]

I didn't want to be reminded of that.

[Jackson Claude]

It's giving remote learning. These people can't think. Like, no.

[Juliet Porter]

Their IQs, no offense.

[Jackson Claude]

Every time they're left to make a decision, it's the wrong one. And, like, I can't watch it.

[Juliet Porter]

I do lose a couple brain cells.

[Jackson Claude]

I feel like the producers are laughing, being like, we crushed it. And I keep saying, like, it really feels like Hunger Games. Like Philip Seymour Hoffman being like, how can we raise the stakes? How can we make this so crazy? And I feel bad for them in a sense where it's like, they were having a nice night, and then they get a text, they go to the fire pit, and it's like, no.

[Juliet Porter]

And they're so upset.

[Jackson Claude]

They're like, no, shit's about to go down.

[Juliet Porter]

Okay, but wait, who is hysterically crying? Oh, the way Hannah. Which was really sad. But she. She really looked like she just got, like, a death sentence.

[Jackson Claude]

No, I know. But, like, she's gone through it twice now. Like, hysterical. I think when you're in there and you're bored all day and this is, like, the biggest dealer in the world.

[Juliet Porter]

And time goes slower in there.

[Jackson Claude]

And so I think that even when she was like, I don't know how I'm supposed to look at you guys. You just sent me home. Which she's so right. She had. There was no reason for her to go home. The obvious choice was Amaya, and they fumbled the ball. And the boys just. I don't know, they all think they have a chance with Andrina now. They don't. And now, like, Huda, she got Jeremiah out of the village. She doesn't have to watch him talk to another girl. And she got the girl out who's talking to the guy that she wants to talk to. Like, how did she end up winning?

[Juliet Porter]

I don't know. I don't like how much power it feels like she has.

[Jackson Claude]

I agree. And she just, like, I don't know.

[Juliet Porter]

I, I, I just don't like how dramatic. Even the conversation she had with tj, she's like, I'm not gonna be, like, that kind of girl. That's like, you.

[Jackson Claude]

It's like, we literally watched this.

[Juliet Porter]

We actually.

[Jackson Claude]

That was literally. You're the only One who does that. Good for TJ for detaching himself.

[Juliet Porter]

I knew he didn't like her from.

[Jackson Claude]

The second I knew he didn't like her, but I felt like if he didn't make it clear. And I'm shocked that he didn't make it so clear because, like, it's nice to have options.

[Juliet Porter]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

She would have. Like, you don't want to be attached to her because, like, she will bring you down. Like, look at Jeremiah.

[Juliet Porter]

So he knew that because he can't see. Was he able to watch the show?

[Jackson Claude]

Some of it, yeah. Oh, I think cutting her off before, like, you become a part of her story is a good thing to do.

[Juliet Porter]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

I'll be very curious what Pepe does. But now in casa More, like, she'll have a million, like, blank slate.

[Juliet Porter]

I feel like they're kind of safe now within the house. Like, they'll have time to get away from, like, the drama within each other. And, like, I'm excited to see what happens, but I just, I don't want.

[Jackson Claude]

No one's in it. Like, if any couple gets broken up by casa more, I literally won't be surprised or care. Like Nick.

[Juliet Porter]

Okay.

[Jackson Claude]

You're right. Nick is. Nick and Sierra are probably the strongest couple. And he's like, has a foot out the door.

[Juliet Porter]

Right. And that even will be obvious if there's like, just like a really hot girl. He'll get googly eyes.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Juliet Porter]

And we'll just want to explore that.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Juliet Porter]

And then go back to Sierra. And she's not gonna wait. Yeah, she's not gonna wait between him unless she finds, you know, hopefully she finds someone else maybe.

[Jackson Claude]

But I think she's really into him and I understand why. And then Nick and I mean, Ace and Shelly and Alandria and Taylor, like, zero chemistry.

[Juliet Porter]

I hope Shelly, like, I need Shelly to give me something because I'm kind of bored.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. No, I agree. And I, like, I don't have any issues with her. But, like, you've now been here since day one. Like, we need more.

[Juliet Porter]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

Alondra gives a lot because, like, she's always in good conversations and like, saying the thing that, like, you're shouting to the tv. Hooda obviously does her hood of thing and they're the three day ones. So then people are saying as and as I've said, people are always wrong. They wanted the Nick and Landry to go on a date that they will bring back. They think that they're gonna bring back a cast off guy and a cast off girl for casa more. Because apparently there's one less person than there's always been. They need to bring back Jeremiah when.

[Juliet Porter]

They showed them on the screen.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. Like, apparently there should have been one more guy and one more girl.

[Juliet Porter]

Got it.

[Jackson Claude]

They need to bring back Jeremiah and, like, then he's, like, back with. If he walks back in with Andrina, Like, I would love that. We need. We don't have any great moments of, like, great love. Like, this is Love Island. Like, it's not Survivor.

[Juliet Porter]

No. And he's the only guy that actually seems to be willing to fall in love.

[Jackson Claude]

Yes. I agree.

[Juliet Porter]

And, like, I want to see a really strong relationship. Like, I want to see a couple come out of it that's, like, Leah and what's his name? Or, like, whoever won last year.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Juliet Porter]

I can't remember anybody's name.

[Jackson Claude]

No, that's okay. There's a lot of people. And then for the girls, they think that Bella would come back, but she's. No. I hear voice I didn't miss. Like, she was nice on the show, and I liked her. No kissing thing.

[Juliet Porter]

Yeah. But she needed to give a little bit.

[Jackson Claude]

But I haven't missed her one day since she moved on.

[Juliet Porter]

I can't. I could not. Her voice did not match the face. And I'm not even, like, trying to be mean. It was just, like, it was really grinding my gears a little bit.

[Jackson Claude]

And when you paid attention to the things that she said, she didn't say anything. All that she said was, what? Yes. No. Like, it was no. Like, there. Maybe she said other stuff off camera, but, like, there was no conversation. I haven't missed her a day since she's been gone.

[Juliet Porter]

I really thought the first episode, I thought she was gonna be, like, the hardest girl to beat.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Juliet Porter]

I was like, she's gonna be the one the other girls are gonna be jealous of.

[Jackson Claude]

No, but, you know, like, when she had to debase herself and then start kissing everyone and then still got sent home.

[Juliet Porter]

Like, no guys really calling her prude.

[Jackson Claude]

They're disgusting. Like, the whole show is disgusting. And, like, now I'm sucked in and I'm watching, and it's not that I can't turn it off. It's like, it's obviously great fodder. I really enjoy talking about it on this show and having, like, strong. It's a part of my, like, routine now, so. But I'm not. I'm still, like, I'm. I hate everyone. I'm so mad. I want to see some love.

[Juliet Porter]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

And if they do bring a girl back I guess it should be Hannah. Who else has gone home at this point?

[Juliet Porter]

Like, I don't even care about the girl. I just need Jeremiah to come back.

[Jackson Claude]

I need Jeremiah to come.

[Juliet Porter]

I need another. I need a girl that is strong, that isn't, like, mean.

[Jackson Claude]

I agree.

[Juliet Porter]

Like, I want a real. A girl with a real connection that. That really wants to fall in love, because I'm not getting that from anyone but Huda. But Huda's mean.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Juliet Porter]

I want a girl that's nice, confident, and wants to fall in love. Like, I want Aaliyah.

[Jackson Claude]

I feel like that's Elandria, except for some reason, she's into Taylor, who gives nothing, and we're sort of stuck.

[Juliet Porter]

She likes them, it seems the fact.

[Jackson Claude]

That she chose him over Jalen. Like, I'm not gonna question whether or not she likes him, because, of course, like, Jalen was a perfect man.

[Juliet Porter]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

And so you obviously find Taylor to be more perfect. I'd be like, I would have a.

[Juliet Porter]

Hard time not thinking about the outside world. Like, could I be with this person really on the outside like that? Those are things that go through my head. I'm just. I'm more rational than, like, falling in love in Fiji.

[Jackson Claude]

I know. But I also feel like this cast feels really young and like, it does. Nothing matters to them in terms of the love. And I feel like the love is, like, becoming a subplot on the show where it's, like, more about strategy and. Okay, that's just, like, not the show I thought I was watching. I like the love. I want there to be at least one lasting couple. I want Molly and Tommy. That's the best sort of season.

[Juliet Porter]

Oh, my God.

[Jackson Claude]

I really need that Molly and Tommy. We're not getting a mom.

[Juliet Porter]

I need a Molly and Tommy. Like, I need just the. A gorgeous. Two gorgeous humans that are just, like. Just so each other and, like, love and, like.

[Jackson Claude]

And that's enough for them.

[Juliet Porter]

And it's, like, not weird uk, because these. They speak so much more eloquently.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Juliet Porter]

Like, Huda is cussing within everything.

[Jackson Claude]

The conversations are really getting to a place of. Someone asked us, like, what's your favorite fruit? That's where we're at.

[Juliet Porter]

Strawberry.

[Jackson Claude]

That's where we're at. It depends what's in season. Like, right now, I like strawberries because they're in season and they're tasty.

[Juliet Porter]

Oh. Oh, you're saying that's what they're talking about.

[Jackson Claude]

Someone asked, what's your favorite fruit?

[Juliet Porter]

Oh, I saw that. And he said, I hate pineapple. You know what the worst was? Whatever conversation Hannah and Pepe had. What was. Was so. It was so dumb. Which, honestly, I feel for them because they're like, what do you talk about all day and all night? I know there's nowhere to go, but it was just, like. It hurt.

[Jackson Claude]

It hurts. It does hurt to watch sometimes.

[Juliet Porter]

But when you have no phone, you do start to talk about things that are just, like, things you wouldn't normally talk about. Like, like, so, like, what. What's your favorite sport?

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Juliet Porter]

There's nothing else to do.

[Jackson Claude]

No. I know. It's really getting rough. I'm so mad at everyone. I need a redemption episode. Bring back Jeremiah.

[Juliet Porter]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

So that I'm single.

[Juliet Porter]

Jeremiah, if you're out, just, like, justice for you and hit me up. I don't know if I'm your type, though.

[Jackson Claude]

I ship.

[Juliet Porter]

And how old are you? Because that matters.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, I ship. Okay, Maybe it's not so bad. Come home, Jeremiah. Juliet's waiting. Juliet, thank you so much for joining me today. This was so much fun. I'm so glad we got that all up our chests.

[Juliet Porter]

Yes. I feel better now. It's like a little therapy sesh.

[Jackson Claude]

Agreed. Tonight there's more Love island, and I do believe we'll be recapping it tomorrow with tomorrow's co host because she is another expert on the matter. So I'm just gonna leave that there. Juliette. Where can everyone follow you in shop? Jmp.

[Juliet Porter]

Juliette Porter is my Instagram. Juliet Porter. And then at jmp, the label for my bikinis, and at. Don't be ridiculous. For my podcast.

[Jackson Claude]

I love it. Thank you. Thank you all for listening. We will see you tomorrow. Love ya. Bye. Bye, guys.