Raw Dogging the Ancient Texts: Tuesday, July 21st, 2026

Summary

The Toast – "Raw Dogging the Ancient Texts"

Airdate: Tuesday, July 21, 2026
Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry
Podcast: The Toast (Dear Media)

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Episode Overview

This Tuesday episode of The Toast is filled with the banter and real-talk that listeners expect from Jackie and Claudia Oshry. Today's show kicks off with musings on small bookstore shopping, hair blowouts, and playing “maje” (mahjong) with Ben, before diving into the Fast 5—a rapid-fire takeaway of trending news stories in entertainment, sports, TV, and influencer culture. The bulk of the episode oscillates between sharp pop-culture commentary, book chat, relatable personal stories, and their signature "Dear Toasters" advice segment.

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Episode Highlights & Key Segments

1. Opening Banter: Hair, Books, Community Vibes

[00:22 – 08:08]

• Local Shopping, Bookstore Experience (Sag Harbor Books):

  • Jackie recounts going "local" for her latest summer read ("The Martha’s Vineyard Beach and Book Club"), highlighting the charm and quirks of a tiny indie bookstore.
  • Claudia notes, “There is a local Barnes & Noble,” to which Jackie retorts, “It’s like shopping local at a big box retailer. I would never do that!” [02:38]
  • Jackie receives a complimentary bookmark from the bookstore—a source of much amusement.
  • They stage an on-air social media bit, taking photos to text to the bookstore at its invitation.

• Hair & Hamptons Pricing:

  • Discussion of Jackie’s $85 blowout and how Hamptons pricing recalibrates city expectations. “You have to remember you’re in the Hamptons. So, like, things that are normally $10 are…$15 here…” [04:30]

• Mahjong Debacle:

  • Claudia and Ben use Jackie’s mahjong set, leaving it outdoors overnight—leading to a saga involving ants and moisture: “They brought my mahjong table, my tiles, my racks, my mat…It is now covered in bugs and soaking wet.” [06:52]

• Books vs. E-Readers:

  • Jackie misses her Kindle (“I’ve just been raw-dogging it with some texts. The old. The ancient texts. Not loving it.”) [03:52]

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2. The Fast 5 Stories You Need to Know

[13:27 – 43:12]

a. Aaron Rodgers Reunites With Family

[13:27 – 19:07]

• Major celebrity news as football star Aaron Rodgers posts about reconnecting with his family after years of estrangement.
• Jackie: “It’s so great, obviously, but I do think it’s weird that, like, you’re reuniting with your estranged family...and you’re, like, taking pictures for social media, especially when you’re not, like, an influencer. You’re Aaron Rodgers.” [15:27]
• They relive Bachelor lore (JoJo’s season), family dynamics, and blame-the-girlfriend pop culture cycles (Olivia Munn, Shailene Woodley, Danica Patrick).
• Memorable quote: “It was so crazy. We all slowly put the pieces together…” [15:59]

b. Tom Brady’s WWE Stunt & Legacy

[19:17 – 25:32]

• Commentary on Tom Brady’s “staged” viral slap of Logan Paul at Fanatics Fest and his flirtation with WWE.
• Jackie: “Why the world’s most prominent athlete would do that…I don’t actually know what he stands to gain from it…” [21:15]
• Anecdote: Jackie attended Summer Slam with Ben and unknowingly sat behind rapper/chef/TV host Action Bronson: “He must have, like, a huge overlap with the WWE audience.” [22:35]
• Jackie on Alex Earle: “I actually feel like Alex Earle being seen with him is now bad for her. Like, he’s so embarrassing.” [24:35]

c. RHOSLC’s Angie K & Husband Separate

[25:37 – 28:13]

• Real Housewives news: Angie K. and her husband Sean split after 27 years.
• Jackie: “This guarantees her a spot [on the show].… She’s a good housewife.” [26:30]
• They reflect on long marriages, midlife crises, and the nuances of Real Housewives’ personal drama.
• Claudia: “Like, what happens at year 27?” [26:41]

d. Olivia Culpo’s Baby Brand Launches at Target

[30:43 – 33:42]

• Olivia Culpo launches “Picolette,” a baby collection exclusively at Target, inspired by her daughter.
• Claudia highlights the resonance for moms: “Target kids clothes are supreme…any Target endorsed children’s brand and then you put the Olivia couple on it. Like, this is just brilliant.” [31:51]
• They compare it to Sophia Richie Grainge’s recent Amazon collection.

e. Riverdale Spinoff “Afterlife With Archie” Gets Disney+ Greenlight

[39:00 – 43:00]

• Disney+ picks up a new Riverdale spinoff based on the “Afterlife with Archie” comic (with a supernatural/zombie twist).
• Jackie: “I love those Archie comics. They bring me such joy—we were obsessed with them as kids.” [39:10]
• The sisters reminisce about reading Archie comics (“We were extremely different…a bunch of comic girls.”) [39:34]
• Some skepticism about the supernatural direction (“If I can steal your man, he was never your man.” [40:05]; “I’m out” [41:25] on the zombie premise.)

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3. Dear Toasters Advice Segment

[43:46 – 53:29]

• Q1: Dealbreaker Kisses

  • Writer’s Dilemma: Guy is great on paper, but makes out with too much saliva—“I genuinely do not want to kiss him.”
  • Jackie analyzes: “If you really liked him, you wouldn’t even notice…maybe you just don’t like him.” [46:30]
  • Claudia: “You can’t date someone that you can’t kiss, obviously.” [47:21]
  • Team advice: Reflect on whether this is a rare “good-on-paper” situation or something worth working through, but don’t force it.

• Q2: One-Sided Friendship & Flowers

  • Writer’s Dilemma: Group always chips in for flowers for major events, but never did so for her own life milestones.
  • Jackie: “You don’t want to be so petty, being like, ‘Well, you guys [didn’t] send me flowers,’…but, no, it’s—I’m all about fairness. This is not fair.” [48:22]
  • Advice is to step back from obligatory group gestures and recalibrate expectations.

• Q3: Advice Update—Toxic Marriage Language

  • Last week’s letter-writer reports back after confronting her husband for calling her “fat” in front of their daughters.
  • Jackie applauds the follow-through and focus on forgiveness—“Everyone says they’re so big and strong, but at the end of the day you have two kids, and you’re doing what’s best for your family.” [51:08]

• Viral Clip Sidebar:

  • Jackie references a viral video where she jokingly critiques Ben’s posture—“I’ll give your posture a 3 out of 10.” [52:59]
  • Commentary on how out-of-context clips misrepresent relationships: “If you just saw that clip, you’d be like, wow, that’s awful—yeah, but I know you guys, offline…” [53:36]

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Most Memorable Quotes

• On picking books at indie stores:
  “So I wore my hair, like, naturally. Yesterday I took one look at myself on the podcast and I went to my local salon and I got a blowout. Yeah. And I, like, read my book at the blowout. I was like, what are you reading? I was giving just like, woman in a novel, you know?” – Jackie [01:28]

• On “raw dogging” print reading:
  “I left my Kindle in the city, so, like, I’ve just been raw dogging it with some texts. The old. The ancient texts. Not loving it.” – Jackie [03:52]

• On family reunions, social media, and Aaron Rodgers:
  “It’s so great, obviously, but I do think it’s weird that, like, you’re reuniting with your estranged family...and you’re, like, taking pictures for social media…” – Jackie [15:27]

• On Tom Brady’s career moves:
  “Why would the world’s most prominent athlete do that? I don’t actually know what he stands to gain from it…that he doesn’t already have.” – Jackie [21:15]

• On group friendship etiquette:
  “You can’t date someone that you can’t kiss, obviously.” – Claudia [47:21]
  “I’m all about fairness. This is not fair.” – Jackie [48:22]
  “That’s a tough pill to swallow. And I’m about equality.” – Claudia [49:37]

• On viral moments and online judgment:
  “And the comments are like, mean girl gets the good guy...Leave her, bro…That is so…If you just saw that clip, you’d be like, wow, that’s awful.” – Jackie [53:28]; Claudia [53:36]

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Other Fun/Eclectic Moments

• [22:35] Jackie starstruck dining next to Action Bronson at SummerSlam.
• [24:35] Tom Brady’s public antics translating into “the ick” for Gen Z stars like Alex Earle.
• [26:41] Wondering what can upend a marriage at year 27.
• [41:20] Archie spinoff’s zombie angle: “Oh, I’m out.” – Jackie.

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Final Thoughts

This episode balances classic Toast energy—irreverent, pop culture-savvy, and rooted in sisterly realness—with super-relatable advice segments. Whether you come for the book talk, the pop news, or the candid friendship (and marriage) anecdotes, “Raw Dogging the Ancient Texts” delivers a rich snapshot of what’s relevant and what’s real for today’s listener.

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Important Timestamps

• Intro & Bookstore/Hair Chat: 00:22 – 08:08
• Fast 5 Stories: 13:27 – 43:00
• Dear Toasters Advice: 43:46 – 53:29
• Viral Video Sidebar: 52:31 – 53:28

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For the Comments Section (as requested by hosts):

“If you made it to the end of this episode, comment the book emoji—any one of your choosing!” [56:01]

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Transcript

[Jackie]

Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast.

[Claude]

It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host.

[Jackie]

It's your favorite show.

[Claude]

The best five things you need to know.

[Jackie]

We'll start your day off swirly. It's the Toast.

[Claude]

They sound amazing.

[Jackie]

Welcome back to the Toast and happy Tuesday. Hope everybody's having a great day. So speaking of greatness.

[Claude]

Greatness.

[Jackie]

Jacqueline Filet.

[Claude]

Greatness. I agree. Hey, Turtleoo.

[Jackie]

Hey, you, Daloo.

[Claude]

I'm darn good on Tuesday. Lou Tur Deloo.

[Jackie]

Yes, you are a loo.

[Claude]

The Turdaloo on Tuesday, Lou.

[Jackie]

Title.

[Claude]

Early title.

[Jackie]

Hopefully that's not the only thing that comes out of today's episode.

[Claude]

Who knows? But, you know, just note it.

[Jackie]

I hope everyone's having a great Tuesday. It is our first Tuesday back to our regularly scheduled.

[Claude]

It's not our first. No, we did it last week.

[Jackie]

Time just flying by in swirly summer. Oh, okay. So everybody knows that deer Toasters is today.

[Claude]

It's back to Tuesday. Yeah. Yeah. And we are gonna do Deer Toasters today. I don't know why we wouldn't.

[Jackie]

Why are you saying that?

[Claude]

Like, I don't know if something would happen that we wouldn't, but I don't think so.

[Jackie]

Are you planning on, like, staging some sort of walk out?

[Claude]

No, no. I feel open towards Deer Toasters today. Like, I feel like I can accept help quandary and. And provide my services. I do. How do you feel? Your hair looks beautiful.

[Jackie]

I got a blowout yesterday. If you saw Jackie and Ben playing mahjong. Mahjong. Without me, it's because, yeah, I got a blowout. I went to, like, a local salon. I just. I can't do my own hair in the summer. It's so hot. I get, like, so overstimulated. So I wore my hair, like, naturally. Yesterday I took one look at myself on the podcast and I went to my local salon and I got a blowout. Yeah. And I, like, read my book at the blowout. I was like, what are you reading? I was giving just like, woman in a novel, you know? Yeah, I'm reading a book. I went to a local bookstore. I'm shopping a lot of local. Recently. Recently I went to a local bookstore and I was just looking for, like, a book and I bought one. It was just kind of crazy.

[Claude]

Like, I tried to read the title from your.

[Jackie]

It was story like the Martha's.

[Claude]

The Martha's.

[Jackie]

The Martha's Vineyard Book and Bunch Club or something.

[Claude]

I don't know.

[Jackie]

It's a, you know, two tiny tale she shows up at this woman's house on Martha's Vineyard, and all of a sudden we're learning about the family who lived there during the war. It's fine.

[Claude]

You just, like, judged it based on the title, on the COVID 1,000%. Okay, that's good. Let us know how it goes.

[Jackie]

And it's like, a very small indie bookstore because, like I said, I shop local.

[Claude]

It wasn't Barnes and Noble.

[Jackie]

No, it was a Sag Harbor Books. Oh, yeah. I went to, like I said, shop local. Did you not hear that part?

[Claude]

Well, there is a local Barnes and Noble.

[Jackie]

It's like shopping local at a big box retailer. I would never do that. I went to a local store, and it's, like, really small. And so, like, the section of, like, swirly books was about five books long. And I felt that if they were putting it out, it's, like, kind of a storied. It's like, local bookstore. Like, it was an endorsement of the book. So this better be good.

[Claude]

Yeah, for sure. And you could also, like, ask your local bookseller, like, for a recommendation.

[Jackie]

Okay, so I could, but I couldn't find her. And then when I found.

[Claude]

And what are you gonna say, I like smut?

[Jackie]

Well, no, there was a ton of smut. Like, I wasn't looking for smut.

[Claude]

I'm not afraid to show.

[Jackie]

I was gonna, like, chat with her, and then she, like, ran into somebody that she knew, and. And I got the sense that there was, like, a deep backstory with the person that she knew because it was, like. It was so awkward.

[Claude]

Probably, like, the beginning of her own book. Like, it was so long lost, I forgot her name.

[Jackie]

But they were like, Rachel. It was literally out of a movie. And you could just tell, like, these two had definitely beef from high school. So I just, like, you know, I did my apple pen, I went on my merry way, and now I'm reading this book with the smallest font ever. It's giving me a headache. And I'm on page, like, 20.

[Claude]

That's, like, the beginning of Whistler, the book we just read for the redheads. They're, like, at the Met. And she runs into an incredibly significant figure in her life.

[Jackie]

I don't know if this person was significant, but. But there was a story there, and who knows?

[Claude]

The rest is still unwritten.

[Jackie]

It's actually currently being written. If I. If I think I know what I know.

[Claude]

Good thing you didn't get in the way of that.

[Jackie]

Well, that's what I'm saying. So I just sort of put myself As I always do behind, like, as number two priority. And. Yeah, so I'm just, like, reading a book. I left my Kindle in the city, so, like, I've just been raw dogging it with some texts. The old. The ancient texts. Not loving it.

[Claude]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jackie]

Paperback or you go hardcover?

[Claude]

Oh, I guess, like, hardcover is nice because it doesn't always, like, close on you, but it is heavy. But, like, I'm not traveling.

[Jackie]

It's also more expensive. Oh, I have my book with me. I am traveling.

[Claude]

Right. Cardboard.

[Jackie]

Did I show you guys my blow dry was 85 yesterday?

[Claude]

Oh, yeah. Which I feel like was like, a fair price for a blowout in the Hamptons.

[Jackie]

Yeah, right. It's not a big deal because you have to remember you're in the Hamptons. So, like, things that are normally $10 are people 15 here. So more. Yeah, like, I would say a Blood in the city is like, you know, 60. So 85. It's fine. I wasn't thrilled, but it's fine. Plus two, the Martha's Vineyard beach and book club. So that's a good cover.

[Claude]

Kids?

[Jackie]

No, they're like four sisters, like, living in wartime, I think. Actually, I don't know if I've gone to that.

[Claude]

Oh, yeah, they're. They're young women.

[Jackie]

I haven't even met four girls yet, so I actually don't.

[Claude]

So you barely started the book.

[Jackie]

You know, I'm literally five pages.

[Claude]

I can understand why you picked this up. This is very cute.

[Jackie]

And it's paperback, which I don't normally go for paperback, but there's something so. Oh, did you see that? My local morning soldiers came to the phone. Jacky Luck. Did you see my local bookstore gave me a complimentary bookmark?

[Claude]

No. Okay.

[Jackie]

Cuz I shopped local, you guys. That's. Why did you. What does it say? It doesn't say.

[Claude]

It says text us.

[Jackie]

It doesn't say Barnes and Noble. What does it say?

[Claude]

It says Sag Harbor Books. And yeah, it's a good time to let you know. Today's episode is brought to you by Sag Harer Books. Text them

[Jackie]

for what?

[Claude]

They want you to text them photos of your books.

[Jackie]

Shows that they're social.

[Claude]

Oh, cute.

[Jackie]

Take a picture of me. And I'm literally gonna text it to them. Should I pretend to be reading it or should I just, like, hold it up?

[Claude]

Hold it up a couple. Let's send them options and I will

[Jackie]

have to, like, facetune them, so just hold on.

[Claude]

Okay. Okay. Now pretend to be reading it.

[Jackie]

Okay. You can see the COVID Yeah.

[Claude]

Titillating.

[Jackie]

I mean, let me do, like, a shocked one. Hold on.

[Claude]

You guys monitor, and I'm gonna. There are some shows to see if Claudia made it, because I bet a

[Jackie]

lot of people don't send the text, you know?

[Claude]

No, no. You didn't even know that it said that.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Claude]

So, I mean, they're always, like, mining for content, like the redheads, and that's

[Jackie]

why it's so important to shop local. That's what I'm always saying.

[Claude]

They should collab with the redheads.

[Jackie]

Absolutely. Live podcast episode in their store.

[Claude]

That would be amazing.

[Jackie]

It's really small, but the redheads are really small.

[Claude]

Small but mighty. It's true. But we do have a lot of hosts.

[Jackie]

I didn't mean that you have a small audience. I meant that, like, physically you're all really small.

[Claude]

No, there' us. We take up space. It's true.

[Jackie]

It's important to take up space with your podcast.

[Claude]

Yeah, we definitely take up space. While you were doing that, I Siamese majed with Ben yesterday, which is two person maj, which we always say. Like, when nobody else wants to play maj, we're like, does anyone want to play two person? And Ben and I finally did it yesterday. We brought the table outside. More on that later. We.

[Jackie]

Yeah, they brought my mahjong table, my tiles, my racks, my mat. They brought it outside, left it there overnight. It is now covered in bugs and soaking wet.

[Claude]

So, yeah, that happened.

[Jackie]

Nobody brought it in. And I knew you between you and Ben, like, if I match with you, it would have been on me to bring it inside because I wasn't there.

[Claude]

So Ben brought it outside, like, and. But I endorse the idea, so. But it was, like, his idea. He actually physically carried the whole table. And then we didn't bring it back inside. We thought we might, like, play more. It was amazing. We loved, like, two player. It was a beautiful day yesterday. We had music going, and so we were like, let's leave it in case anybody else wants to play or we want to play again. And then. Yeah, then the evening came and went, and it was still outside. Zach and I went to dinner last night. Night. And when we came back, I was like, let's bring the table inside.

[Jackie]

It's nice that you had, like, the thought to do it.

[Claude]

Of course you didn't see it in

[Jackie]

a different place this morning. I thought that was this morning.

[Claude]

No, no, that was last night. We brought it into the house, and there was a bunch of ants on it. And I'm like, I'm not gonna bring all these bugs into the house. Like, let's leave it right outside the door. We'll clean it off tomorrow. But overnight it did get wet from the dew.

[Jackie]

Maybe it rained overnight.

[Claude]

I don't think it rained. I think it was like, you know, it's missing moisture. It's very moist environment here.

[Jackie]

Yeah, lots of moisture.

[Claude]

So I'll have to deal with that when we get home.

[Jackie]

Yes, you will. Well, we actually have, like, a lot to do today, and now that we've sort of handled the social media for the local bookstore, I think we could dive in.

[Claude]

I guess we could dive in. I guess so.

[Jackie]

Anything else?

[Claude]

No, I think that's all for me.

[Jackie]

Great.

[Claude]

Without further ado to do, it is time for the Fast 5 stories that you to do need to know.

[Jackie]

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[Claude]

Thank you, Turdy.

[Jackie]

You're welcome.

[Claude]

Our first story is a major, major news. Like, major news for the toast. For people who have been following this closely. I feel like it slipped under the radar, but I'm not going to let it. Aaron Rodgers has reunited with his family after years long estrangement.

[Jackie]

So anyone who watched Jojo season of the Bachelorette, like, this is huge.

[Claude]

This is huge. We've all sort of accepted the fact that Aaron Rodgers doesn't talk to his family.

[Jackie]

And I think like, maybe at a point in time, like why would we care what like one random football player does with his family? But then when his brother like shot to fame as Aaron Rodgers brother and then the two were. He wasn't on the hometown date and then we were like, do you guys even talk? And then there was like low key, like drama. Then we were like, oh, this is more interesting. And a lot of time has passed to the point where like, I don't really care anymore, but I always love to see families being reunited.

[Claude]

And it has.

[Jackie]

Although Jordan was noticeably absent.

[Claude]

Jordan was absent, but they also have like a new baby and they live not. They live in Puerto Rico.

[Jackie]

What?

[Claude]

I'm pretty sure they live in Puerto Rico.

[Jackie]

Jordan.

[Claude]

Yeah. Yeah. So I think this would probably like, mean, like they're next. But definitely, like there is a week.

[Jackie]

I think that of all, like the relationships that were broken between Aaron and his family, like, the one with Jordan was definitely the worst.

[Claude]

I don't know why, but it just was.

[Jackie]

Well, because it went public, right? Like, Aaron was the only public figure in the family. And then when there was another one, like, of course, like competition or whatever. Even though there was like never a competition, but it became more. I think he was estranged from his family for years. Nobody knew until he went on the Bachelor. Yeah, it like blew the whole thing up.

[Claude]

Yeah, it really did. And it's just like a very strange situation that we have two famous Rogers

[Jackie]

brothers and never the twain shall meet.

[Claude]

Never the twain shall meet. So anyways, Aaron posted on Monday a bunch of photos of him with various family members who he had fallen out with, like his mom and his dad. And I think there's a brother.

[Jackie]

There's a brother Luke who's like always inserting himself and he's really close with Jordan and JoJo.

[Claude]

Yeah. So he seems like like the neutral third party and he captioned the carousel, saying, another bonding week hashtag fam.

[Jackie]

I mean, like, it's so great, obviously, but I do think it's weird that, like, you're reuniting with your estranged family for the first time in a decade and you're, like, taking pictures for social media, especially when you're not, like, an influencer. You're Aaron Rogers.

[Claude]

You don't post a lot. That fact that you let us know that you're bonding because there is, like, beef there. It's really weird social media behavior from

[Jackie]

somebody who doesn't really, you know, keep up with us on Instagram.

[Claude]

I'm grateful for the transparency. I'm excited for Margot Washre because this is her Roman Empire. Like, the Rogers family drama at the

[Jackie]

time, like, you really had to be there, you guys.

[Claude]

It was.

[Jackie]

I'm sure you were there. It was so crazy. Like, we all slowly put the pieces together because he came on and it was rare back in the day that, like, somebody went on the Bachelor who was, like, even remotely wealthy or famous. Like, they were all just regular people. That was the allure of the show. So for someone to come on whose brother was, like, a football player, because some people have, like, football players and you've never heard of them. Like an actual superstar.

[Claude]

Yeah, like the biggest football player.

[Jackie]

And then we were all freaking because I think a lot of us knew he was going to win or he was going to go far. They had, like an instant connection. We're like, oh, my God, the hometown dates. Like, like, we're gonna get Aaron Rodgers. And then he wasn't there. And people are like, well, he's in the NFL. Like, no. We all slowly uncovered that, like, these two hate each other.

[Claude]

Yeah. And it's like, was it Olivia Munn's fault?

[Jackie]

Right. Oh, they did blame Olivia Munn. Meanwhile, she's been out of the picture for many years.

[Claude]

Right.

[Jackie]

He's had, like three long term relationships since then. And it didn't get any better. But of course, blaming the woman, I probably blamed her at the time.

[Claude]

It probably started with Olivia, like, you know.

[Jackie]

Yeah. I also feel that, like, for a while, Olivia Munn had, like a kind of murky Q score. And I think obviously, like, the John Mulaney thing made it murkier. It got worse, but then it got better. Like, I do think she's very well liked now and she's on a really popular TV show, which always helps. I feel like she's in a good place now. I feel like for a couple of years, like, people didn't like her, you

[Claude]

know, because she, like, stole her man, right, Anne Marie?

[Jackie]

Oh, yeah, yeah. But I'm saying before that, like, when she was just, like, sort of this, like, random celebrity when she was dating Iron Rogers. And even after that, like, I feel like people just didn't like her.

[Claude]

Oh, I don't know. I think. I think she's, like, fine like any other actress, you know, or any celebrity that, like.

[Jackie]

But, you know, they maintain the timeline is clear.

[Claude]

Are hard on. Yeah. This is all just coming back to

[Jackie]

me, you know, like, Emery Tendler years were crazy.

[Claude]

Yeah. That was a crazy time.

[Jackie]

But, like, the thing is, is that they claim that they, like. It was definitely a tight timeline, but there was an overlap. They have two kids now. Like, we do have to move on. Although I do think that there are people who will always be at the restaurant. Like, their Roman Empire is Anna Marie Tendler. Because, like, him and John. Her and John Mulaney were, like, this artsy couple. People love them. And they were all like, we are so cool. We're so happy. We're so successful, and we don't want kids. And everyone was, like, empowered by that cut. You. They break up, three minutes later, she's pregnant. Like, it was just such a shift. But you know what?

[Claude]

They're so happy together when they're otp.

[Jackie]

A thousand percent. And, like, his comedy, I just want to say, is so much funnier.

[Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Now that he has married into, like, an Asian family.

[Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

He does, like, almost all of his comedies about her family because I think her mom lives with them. And now he's, like, raising mixed kids, and it's just really funny.

[Claude]

Yeah. No, they're like. They're set.

[Jackie]

I'm a thousand.

[Claude]

I would be shocked in a while. I don't even associate her with Aaron Rodgers anymore. It doesn't be the same person, I think. Of.

[Jackie]

Of course, Ms. Shailene and even Danica.

[Claude]

I do think of Danica.

[Jackie]

I think of Danica.

[Claude]

It's been decades.

[Jackie]

Yeah. I think she's married. I think that was, like, the worst time of her life being with Aaron Rodgers.

[Claude]

Danica. Shailene.

[Jackie]

Shailene.

[Claude]

Sad.

[Jackie]

Oh, no.

[Claude]

But Aaron Rodgers is married now.

[Jackie]

Is he?

[Claude]

Yeah, he's married now.

[Jackie]

He had, like, sort of like a Britney, like, head shaving kind of year sort of.

[Claude]

But I think that's just Aaron.

[Jackie]

A thousand percent.

[Claude]

He's married now. So maybe his new wife has just been Aaron. Maybe his new wife has brought him back to his family.

[Jackie]

That's always good.

[Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

A good woman will do that.

[Claude]

Yeah. So I'm ready to see JoJo and Jordan and the baby and Aaron.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Claude]

Whenever they're ready.

[Jackie]

Yeah. That'll be the final bridge to mend.

[Claude]

Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Tom Brady is being weird. He's in talks.

[Jackie]

I just have to say I hate him.

[Claude]

So Tom Brady, like, was making news over the weekend. I didn't mean to bring it up,

[Jackie]

but, like, it was, like, a stage viral moment between him and Logan Paul. And, like, people were like, is this real? And I will say, like, as somebody who's pretty good at, like, deciphering whether something's AI or whether something's a prank, it was good acting. So I could see why the first video of Tom Brady slapping Logan Paul at the Fanatics Fest went viral. It did look a little real, but I'm just smart enough to know that, like, Logan Paul does everything as a state, a stunt. And like, Tom Brady, they were at, like, at a fanatics event on stage. Like, it was obviously staged.

[Claude]

And then at the World cup, another

[Jackie]

fake video went viral.

[Claude]

But no, but, like, it was a real video. But, like, I guess they were, like, they were, like, giving each other the finger from, like, various suites at the World Cup.

[Jackie]

Turns out he might be joining Tom Brady might be joining wwe, which Logan Paul is already in. And this is, like, you know, their big rivalry.

[Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Now, I just don't know why you would go and be doing all of that, like, if I'm Tom Brady. First of all, I do think that, like, my legacy has been tarnished a little bit just by, like, the Giselle and, you know, retiring and unretiring that, like, he is a little bit of a joke. And he tried to undo it with the Roast, and it just made it worse. I do think, like, just taking, like I said, like, taking a break is always good. Tom Brady is doing the most. He has so much money. He does not need to do this. People go to the wwe, like, who are already famous. Some people get famous from the wwe, some people go to the WWE for. I think it was a great move for Logan Paul. Like, it's a real, like, legitimate platform, and he brought all these young fans and prime is, like, now the hydration. I totally get why he did it.

[Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

A great partnership. Why, like, the world's most prominent athlete would do that. I don't. I actually don't know what he stands to gain from it. Like, that he doesn't already have exposure. He's got it money. He's got it fame. He's got A kids. Like, I think kids are now obsessed with Logan Paul, like, young kids, because the wwe, Sorry, like, you know, has a lot of young kids. Those people are really obsessed with Tom Brady. Like, what are you doing?

[Claude]

I know. I think it could only really be about money.

[Jackie]

Midlife crisis.

[Claude]

Midlife crisis. To bring you to the wwe. Like, that's not really a. A, a, A route. Because if you're midlife, I don't know that you want to go get slammed at the Summer Slam.

[Jackie]

It's fake.

[Claude]

No, but it's hard on you.

[Jackie]

I've been to the Summer Slam.

[Claude]

It's hard on your body.

[Jackie]

Did you hear what I just said?

[Claude]

You've been to the Summer Slam?

[Jackie]

Did I tell you that before?

[Claude]

Do you know that I know everything about you? What? You went to a Summer Slam one day and I didn't know you went there.

[Jackie]

Yeah, like, we were, like, invited with, like, a. Like, a VIP group, and so we all had to, like, we had to go in through the back, and I was with, literally, Macaulay Culkin and Brenda Song. Like, that was the VIP group, and, like, me and Ben were freaking out. And then we got seated, like, behind this, like, this huge guy, and these people kept coming up to this guy. Like, it was basically like if we went to a kosher restaurant. Like, people coming up to him, like, man, I. I love you. I love you. And I was like, who the is this guy? His name is Action Bronson. I had to, like, Google him. Do you know him?

[Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

You do?

[Claude]

Of course.

[Jackie]

How do you know Action Bronson?

[Claude]

Everyone knows Action Bronson.

[Jackie]

I think it's Brunson.

[Claude]

No, Bronson Bronson. Like, seriously, I'm shocked. It's just, like, a name that, you know.

[Jackie]

He looks like Teddy Swims.

[Claude]

Yeah, but that's just a name that, you know.

[Jackie]

It's a name that you know. I didn't know it.

[Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

And had I not sat behind him, I never heard his name again. Had I not sat behind him at the WWE SummerSlam, which, yes, I went to and I bought, like, a fake belt. I have it somewhere. I never would have heard that name before. I can't believe you know him.

[Claude]

Yeah, you, like, see it around people, Jackie.

[Jackie]

He must have, like, a huge overlap with the WWE audience. They were.

[Claude]

I thought he's like, wwe.

[Jackie]

No, he's a rapper, like a singer. What is he not?

[Claude]

I don't know. I just know his name. And because you saw him at the SummerSlam, I just assume he's a rapper, chef, television host, and best selling Author.

[Jackie]

Oh, Ben should have connected with him.

[Claude]

Oh, my God.

[Jackie]

All that to say I've been to

[Claude]

the song Cracking up, that he's a rapper. Yeah, I knew that.

[Jackie]

Yeah, sure. I've been to the Summer Slam. Just, I feel like. Like people don't know that about me.

[Claude]

You're like an onion. Like, we're peeling back layers.

[Jackie]

It's true.

[Claude]

So, yeah, I think this is like an L for Tom Brady in this series of Ls that are so unbelievable that I actually don't believe it.

[Jackie]

Like, not believable.

[Claude]

Yeah, I think, like, Dave Portnoy went on a rant about how, like, he's tarnishing his legacy. And, like, he is, you know.

[Jackie]

Oh, you know, Dave Porter's book was at this very small bookstore. I thought that was, like, kind of crazy. They didn't have a lot of celebrity biographies. Of course, I went to that section first.

[Claude]

But he is, like, you know, a Hampton staple.

[Jackie]

No, he's Nantucket.

[Claude]

No.

[Jackie]

Isn't he in the Hamptons? No, he's Nantucket. Everyone knows that. He bought, like, one of those.

[Claude]

Yeah, yeah. And then. Oh, I thought he was like, I guess it's the same vibe. I would like his book. Seems good. Things are keep coming out about it. I know.

[Jackie]

I'm just like, not in my memoir era.

[Claude]

I can't finish this Abigail Adams book for the life of me. And I have to shocked. Then you have to do the redhead. I have to do the redheads. What are we even. Oh, we're reading a Margot book. That will be fun.

[Jackie]

Oh, there was a redheads book at the local bookstore that I went to. Margot Scott. Money troubles. Which I have been wanting to read because I do want to watch a TV show. But I was really looking for, like, a summer beach read. So when I saw the swirlies on the beach on the COVID of this book, I had to buy it.

[Claude]

Our next redheads book is like a summary. Margo's Choice. It's called.

[Jackie]

Do you have a physical copy here with you?

[Claude]

No, but we could go to the bookstore. It's called the Shampoo Effect.

[Jackie]

You actually might have to go to Barnes and Noble if you're looking for something. Because, like, I'm telling you, this bookstore was really small, and half of it was dedicated to, like, archives. It had, like, old textbooks and stuff in the back. So, like, half the racks, like, we're not even for us.

[Claude]

Got it. Got it.

[Jackie]

That's what you get when you shop local.

[Claude]

It's all curated.

[Jackie]

Yeah, well, so, yeah, Tom Brady, like, I Am consistently confused by. And I actually feel like Alex Earl being seen with him is now bad for her. Like, he's so embarrassing.

[Claude]

And also it's like, weird because they keep seeing each other and it must be weird to keep seeing the person

[Jackie]

that you like, hooked up with that

[Claude]

you maybe did or didn't hook up with. Like, the whole world thinks you hooked up. And like, it's just like you can't be seen with them because they definitely did viral thing.

[Jackie]

But the last time they were together was at the July 4th white party. Right. And there was like no news about them. He actually made news with Ice Spice. They looked like they were kissing, but they were apparently just sharing a vape. I do feel like she got the ick from him.

[Claude]

Yeah. But she's gonna see him like, literally multiple times a month because she goes everywhere.

[Jackie]

Because, like, he goes to all the places that she's at, which is just further proof that like, he's about shows

[Claude]

what's wrong with what he's doing.

[Jackie]

Like, go home to your family. You don't have to get married, but like, you go home.

[Claude]

And he has jobs. Like, he broadcasting, does broadcasting.

[Jackie]

He's investor in a lot of companies. Companies.

[Claude]

He has business.

[Jackie]

You know, he's like, he's busy enough.

[Claude]

Like go on Shark Tank.

[Jackie]

Yes. That's a good call.

[Claude]

Yeah. Our next story. Real Housewives of Salt Lake City star Angie K. And her husband Sean TRULIO Separate after 27 years of marriage.

[Jackie]

People are freaking about this.

[Claude]

Yeah, I guess it is. They've been married for a very long time. They're relationship was like the subject of so many, like, rumors and nastiness on Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. They've always like, you know, risen above, maintained. And then I think things kind of died down for them. I didn't watch last season, but like, they moved past all of the rumors and nastiness.

[Jackie]

Rumors and nastiness.

[Claude]

And now they're separating. So, like, she didn't mark their 27th wedding anniversary last month, which I think is something she would do. But multiple sources told Page Six that the longtime couple are no longer together romantically.

[Jackie]

This does guarantee tea her like a spot.

[Claude]

I don't think she was like, up for grab. Like. Yeah, yeah, I think she's fine.

[Jackie]

She's a good housewife.

[Claude]

She is a good housewife.

[Jackie]

Yeah. This is always sad when like a 27 year marriage ends.

[Claude]

Like, what happens at year 27?

[Jackie]

It's kind of a copper's bell burden. Like sometimes you just like have a midlife crisis. You wake up in psychosis. Like there's a million things that could go wrong.

[Claude]

Yeah. But so I'm asking what was the thing? Because it's not just like a.

[Jackie]

And then you. You factor in name.

[Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

There were also rumors about him. Like at his salon. Right.

[Claude]

The room was the nastiness.

[Jackie]

Yeah. So I peeped people.

[Claude]

So yeah, like if something happened, whether it is like a psychotic break, whether it is an affair, like you don't just like make it work for 27 years. They have a 15 year old daughter and like now just together, which is like always now just decide I'm over it.

[Jackie]

Yeah. This was a shock to the. To the community.

[Claude]

Yeah. It will definitely be a shock to real houses of Salt Lake City, especially because they're pretty much all married.

[Jackie]

Whitney, except for Heather.

[Claude]

But like even Meredith, she's not on the show anymore. But like though they've had their ups and downs, like they've stayed together.

[Jackie]

Lisa Barlow.

[Claude]

Lisa and John in institution.

[Jackie]

Just baby gorgeous.

[Claude]

That's your register. That song.

[Jackie]

I think me people say that to me all the time. That me and Lisa Barlow have the same register.

[Claude]

Like I think that's. You should go on auditions with that song, baby.

[Jackie]

I love how she rhymes just with gorgeous. You're just baby gorgeous.

[Claude]

You've never sounded better really than when you sing that. Yeah.

[Jackie]

I wish I knew like one more line. Like I just know that one.

[Claude]

Yeah. So crazy.

[Jackie]

That is really crazy. I haven't been keeping up with the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City in a while.

[Claude]

I'm one season behind. So maybe in three years I'll watch it. But it's really good.

[Jackie]

100%.

[Claude]

It's good stuff.

[Jackie]

I'm currently re watching Mad Men.

[Claude]

I don't know if I should do

[Jackie]

that with the class.

[Claude]

Right. I didn't get into any more off campus.

[Jackie]

Oh, tell everyone thanks for.

[Claude]

I'm glad you brought that up. I'm so uncomfy because I was watching off campus, like in my bedroom at our house on the owners. The owner. We're renting the house and so I was watching on the owners.

[Jackie]

It was logged in already.

[Claude]

Amazon Prime. Yeah, like, because I don't want to go and log into every app, get a code. What's my password? Reset my password. Remember to log out before we leave. So like some of the apps. He's not logged in. I guess I won't be watching Netflix this summer. But he is logged into Prime. So I watched on campus on prime and as I told you guys, but

[Jackie]

she had to pause right before the big orgasm scene.

[Claude]

Right. I paused there, and I was like, we'll get back to it. And so yesterday, I, like, went to go watch, and it wasn't on. Continue watching. So I, like, I. I thought me, like, I didn't know what happened.

[Jackie]

Sometimes technology.

[Claude]

Technology, or maybe he watched so many shows that it got, like, pushed back. So I searched it, and it came up, and, like, then I saw that all the episodes had been watched.

[Jackie]

So it could be a lot of things. I just wanted maybe, like, removed it from his. Continue watching. I think you can do that.

[Claude]

Okay. Or he, like, was like, oh, what's the tenant watching?

[Jackie]

And open to the orgasm.

[Claude]

Open it up to that scene where, like, they're in his bedroom. Yep. And so I just am so uncomfortable.

[Jackie]

She has, like, a really negative association.

[Claude]

So then yesterday afternoon, I tried to watch it, and I couldn't, like, think of anything.

[Jackie]

I was just, why don't you take some time?

[Claude]

I was just watching it all through, like, the Hooters.

[Jackie]

Yeah, right, right, right.

[Claude]

I couldn't. I needed a break. Yeah, it's, like, kind of ruined for me, but, like, I don't know what happened. My working theory is, like, he pressed play, like, to see what the tenant was watching, like, so much.

[Jackie]

I think that he was like, what is this corny ass thing in my. Continue watching. And just, like, remove. Or like, he had no part in this.

[Claude]

Every episode when I go to watch, it is at the end, is at the credits. So I think he was like, what is my tenant watching? He clicked on this corner, and now

[Jackie]

he's like a Garrett Graham. Stan.

[Claude]

Yeah. Garrett Graham. Madame Marvel, Wicked Witch. Yeah. So it's just like.

[Jackie]

It's awkward. Like, we don't know where to go from here.

[Claude]

Yeah. I'm just gonna give it time, of course, but, like, so that's why I haven't watched anymore. Time does heal. Are you ready for our fourth story? A little new collab news. Olivia Culpo is launching a baby collection exclusively at Target called Picolette.

[Jackie]

Yeah, I'm sad as hell for this. Although I did see something interesting, which I guess it's, like, not that interesting, but on their. On the brand's social media, they had, like, a bunch of, you know, content, and they did, like, a little explainer about the name. And obviously pick Colette. Colette is her daughter's name. And then Piccolo, or we know from Opiccolo. That's what I'm saying.

[Claude]

We know from Opicolo.

[Jackie]

That means, like, little teeth. So it's kind of like a similar name to Olivia Jade's. What is her.

[Claude]

Oh, Piccolo.

[Jackie]

Yeah, Opicolo. She, like, dropped that. And then, like, do you think she's

[Claude]

like, she just kept it moving, Right?

[Jackie]

I love that.

[Claude]

I think she, like, really wanted to bring this product into the world. It's here. Like, we can use it. She can use it.

[Jackie]

Moving on.

[Claude]

Wimbledon, here I come.

[Jackie]

Yeah. But I think she got, like, caught up in the tennis world maybe, or

[Claude]

maybe like, she's working on something next. I think this is, like, a true case of, like, parallel thing. I mean, it is like, anyone who would want to be like, she stole the name. Like, she didn't. Her daughter's name's Colette. Oh, Piccolo came out first. It means little. It's a cute word.

[Jackie]

This is a Q lab between her and Target, right?

[Claude]

Yes. It's exclusively at Target, and it's like a brand of clothing. And, you know, I will say, like,

[Jackie]

Target kids clothes are supreme. Like, if you're looking whether. No matter the budge. I love that brand. Cloud Island. So I feel that any Target endorsed children's brand and then you put the Olivia couple on it. Like, this is just brilliant.

[Claude]

This is brilliant. She did, like, an interview with corporate target dot com.

[Jackie]

One of my favorite websites. I haven't caught up, though.

[Claude]

And she's. When she's like, explaining, like, you know, the. The. The meaning and also the purpose behind the brand, like, she's firing on all cylinders. She said it was born of her first year of motherhood. I was in the very tender season of becoming a mom for the first time while also pregnant again. I kept thinking about how sacred those earliest days are. Every little outfit becomes part of a memory. Coming home, the first photos, all these tiny, tiny moments you'll never forget. Before you know it, those small pieces are carefully fold way into a keepsake or storage bin. She said that she's collaborated with other brands in the past, but this one feels most personal. She's designed every piece with intention. It comes from her real life, her home, her daughter, and now her next baby. She said Target feels like a dream partner because it reaches so many families. As a new mom, I know how often Target becomes part of your daily life with everyday needs like diapers, wipes, baby basics, the things you need at the last minute. I love the idea that a mom could find something that feels boutique and sentimental. But across the country at Target, 1,000%,

[Jackie]

this feels very similar to Sophia Richie Grange for Amazon. Like just tastemakers making taste for children. Love, need More celebrity baby brands.

[Claude]

Yes. Yes. I think it launches on July 20th.

[Jackie]

No, it launched. I was on the website yesterday.

[Claude]

July 26th.

[Jackie]

I was literally on the website.

[Claude]

But it says the launch is July 26th.

[Jackie]

Maybe in store. Maybe because like I was literally shopping on it last night.

[Claude]

Okay, well, I'm reading.

[Jackie]

Like that's just what my lived experience. What? What?

[Claude]

How do we factor that in and read experience?

[Jackie]

That's not a thing.

[Claude]

My red experience.

[Jackie]

Not a thing.

[Claude]

So, yeah, super cute. Like for the baby world.

[Jackie]

Oh, huge for the mama community.

[Claude]

Yeah. Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

[Jackie]

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[Claude]

T O A S T. Thank you. T U R T. You're welcome. Our fifth and final story is major news for Afterdale fans. Afterlife with Archie series from Riverdale team gets the green light at Disney plus

[Jackie]

after life with Archie.

[Claude]

Yes. So Disney plus has ordered the series version of Afterlife with Archie comics. So I guess that's like a spin off comic from the Archie comics.

[Jackie]

I love those Archie comics. Like, they bring me such joy. We were obsessed with them as kids.

[Claude]

Yeah, we were.

[Jackie]

You can still read, like, comic books these days. No. Like, if you send your kid to camp. That's where. We used to read Archie comics all the time.

[Claude]

I'm sure they do. We're like, so, like, kinds of comments

[Jackie]

like, reading comic books. That's insane.

[Claude]

We are so alt.

[Jackie]

No, that was low key. Very alt of us. We're not, like, alt kids that we

[Claude]

read Betty and Veronica. We were extremely different.

[Jackie]

We had comic books.

[Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

That's crazy.

[Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

I feel like not a lot of people would think that about us. Like, a bunch of comic girls.

[Claude]

I feel like people would.

[Jackie]

That we read our train.

[Claude]

Betty and Veronica.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Claude]

Were you more like a Betty or a Veronica?

[Jackie]

Like, whose side were you on? Not. Okay. Not who you think you are.

[Claude]

So, like, Betty was, of course, like, the better girl for Archie, but damn,

[Jackie]

she's, like, sort of homely, all American, but, like, try.

[Claude]

But damn, she was annoying.

[Jackie]

No, she didn't try. And that's the thing. Like, I think Veronica was sort of villainized for, like, being this, like, sexy. Va va voom. Like, stealing Betty's man. But it's like, if I can steal your man, he was never your man.

[Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

And Betty just thought, like, her bangs were enough to carry her through, and they just weren't.

[Claude]

No, like, her jovial energy and, like, yes, she is sweet. Sure. But, like, Veronica's got. Got riz.

[Jackie]

Yeah. And Veronica has curves. Like, she was a woman. Betty was just a girl.

[Claude]

Yeah. No, but, like, Veronica's personality, maybe you don't like it, but it's something.

[Jackie]

Yeah. I mean, it's endless.

[Claude]

It's.

[Jackie]

It's no shock that it's been made into, like, movies and TV shows, because it really is, like, a tale as old as time.

[Claude]

It's a classic trope. It really is. Well, anyway, so there's a comics called Afterlife with Archie, and now they're set to be turned into a series at Disney plus.

[Jackie]

Okay. Who's our young Archie? I think it has to be, like, an unknown, but it is Writer Ross. So it's the team who. From the team? Who brought you Riverdale?

[Claude]

Yes. Who brought you Riverdale? We're getting a Riverdale spin off at Disney Plus. Like, sounds good to me.

[Jackie]

I guess it's so he crazy that Cole Sprouse was Jughead. You know what I mean?

[Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

He's so not.

[Claude]

Yeah, but he was.

[Jackie]

But he was the only person on that show who was, like, known. The rest of the cast at the time were totally new and random, like KJ Appa. Yeah, but that was our Archie. He was so cute.

[Claude]

He's a good Archie.

[Jackie]

But he wasn't even a natural redhead, so, like, you really don't have to cast even a redhead. Even though I would prefer if they went with, like, you know, a naturally.

[Claude]

Yeah. Also afterlife with Archie's, like, kind of like zombies.

[Jackie]

Oh, you're kidding.

[Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Oh, I'm out.

[Claude]

It's afterlife. Yeah. No, I don't think I'm gonna be watching, but I'm glad that it's being made, like, for other people and that,

[Jackie]

like, kids these days Will. Because I. I do think that, like, the comic book has gone the way of the horse and buggy. And kids these days, like, they need to know about Archie and Betty and

[Claude]

Veronic, even though, like, Riverdale wasn't close to the text at all because they had no.

[Jackie]

They just had the same names.

[Claude]

They have Jughead and Betty. Right, Right. So when it comes to Riverdale, like, I loved Archie.

[Jackie]

Riverdale was such a good show until it wasn't such a good show until they got, like, spooky.

[Claude]

They were always.

[Jackie]

Dad was like, the Black Hood.

[Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

And it was like, Lili Reinhart's dad.

[Claude]

Yeah. Way to spoil it.

[Jackie]

They lost the plot a little bit there.

[Claude]

That was the plot. Yeah. The first season was good. Like, who's the Black Hood?

[Jackie]

No. And it was like, that's like remembering Pretty Little Liars. If it was like a. A And then it was like, you know, Troy and Bellisario's mom?

[Claude]

Like. Yes. Knowing, like, everyone was a. At a certain point.

[Jackie]

They it up too.

[Claude]

Yeah. No. What was the name of that, like, big ghoul in, like, the second season?

[Jackie]

Was it not the Black Hood?

[Claude]

No, no. Black Hood was first season. They caught him.

[Jackie]

Someone who was, like, terrorizing all the kids. It was someone's dad. Like, what?

[Claude]

Yeah. Wait season.

[Jackie]

They got also, like, a little magical and, like, spooky. And that's where they lost me. That's what it sounds like the new Disney plus show is.

[Claude]

Yeah. Villain was, like, this big. Like, it looked like almost like a tree. Like it was a supernatural.

[Jackie]

I must have stopped watching by then, because I have genuinely no idea what you're talking about.

[Claude]

We had Hiram Lodge throw Hiram Lodge.

[Jackie]

Mark Consuelos.

[Claude]

Mark Consuelos.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Are you ready for Dear Toasters, our final segment?

[Claude]

I think we need to rewatch Riverdale

[Jackie]

and start another Afterdale show.

[Claude]

What? I know.

[Jackie]

And then once a week, we'll do a segment called after we rewatch Riverdale,

[Claude]

and then we rewatch Afterdale, and then we do a podcast about that after.

[Jackie]

After Dale.

[Claude]

We could also. Just because they're doing this, we could do a podcast after Afterlife.

[Jackie]

I'm all set, actually.

[Claude]

I'll talk to Ben. I feel like he's still pining for our Afterdale.

[Jackie]

Well, he, like, loves those shows because we're watching Mad Men, and he literally, like, shoots up in the middle of episode six. He's like, wait, wait, the daughter, Sabrina, the teenage witch. Ben is like, the guy who is the creator of Riverdale, writer Ross. He also did Sabrina. Ben is his number one fan. Like, he loves his shows. He loved Sabrina the teenager.

[Claude]

She was like, it's Sabrina, the teenage witch Kieran.

[Jackie]

All right, let's dive into Dear Toasters, our weekly advisement, where every Tuesday, Jackie and I try to help out our toasters in need. We actually have two submissions today and an update from something we read last week. We love a quick turnaround. Thank you to write to whoever wrote in and updated us. If you ever want to write in dear toasters, gmail.com or head over to our website, thetostpodcast.com both methods totally anonymous. Hey, guys. I've been on a couple of dates with this guy. He's done everything right. He's doing everything I said I wanted. After really three horrible dates that I went on before him, I eventually let him come over. We started kissing. The problem is he produces so much saliva that my mouth is literally starting to fill up with his spit. I was gagging. I don't know how to tell him. So I just tried to kiss him less, asked him to slow down, and subtly got him to stop. Stop using so much tongue. It really didn't help, though. Now I'm conflicted because he's giving me everything I asked for in theory, but I genuinely do not want to kiss him. I kind of think that's a big deal. And it's not like he can really control how much saliva he produces. What do I do?

[Claude]

That is so difficult?

[Jackie]

That is a thing. People have, like, saliva production over production.

[Claude]

I would love to know how old she is.

[Jackie]

The girl who wrote in. Yeah, I would assume she's, like, late 20s. Just based on factors.

[Claude]

Yeah, because it's like, like, are you early 20s?

[Jackie]

Like, are you trying to say, like, how desperate are you for a boyfriend?

[Claude]

It's like, we have a long Runway. Like, you know, another guy will come. Yeah.

[Jackie]

Or is this, like, truly the last ship out?

[Claude]

No, it's like the last ship. And you do like him. Like, do we. Is it a make it work moment?

[Jackie]

I know.

[Claude]

Or like, you have to do anyone

[Jackie]

on your own life?

[Claude]

Like. Yeah, yeah.

[Jackie]

If this is like a make it work situation, have, like, you need to have, like, a little bit of self awareness. Like, I think sometimes a girl can afford to be picky and choosy and maybe like, a little reckless in her decision making when it comes to dating. And then a woman of a certain age, the biological clock is a real thing. Like, you can't afford to be so picky.

[Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

So I would do an audit on your personal life. Like, do you think that you have Runway? How old are you?

[Claude]

Not have Runway?

[Jackie]

Like, do you have a lot of dating success or is it like, does a boyfriend come along every now and then?

[Claude]

You never like anyone and you finally like someone also, like, there are ways, like, to give him, like, dry mouth, you know, smoke some pot. Hot. What causes dry mouth?

[Jackie]

Hot. No.

[Claude]

Okay. What else? A stoner boyfriend.

[Jackie]

I guess I'm giving, like, a lot of drugs. Yeah. I think it's more of just like, an illness. I don't think you can, like, contract it. Like.

[Claude]

No, but, like, there are things that you could do that cause dry mouth. Like, they're negative things. But maybe we could give him dry mouth.

[Jackie]

Okay, let's see.

[Claude]

That's like, really, really dehydration.

[Jackie]

So you could just, like, hide all the water bottles.

[Claude]

Well, I don't want him to be dehydrated. That's also.

[Jackie]

It's like, usual. Oh, antidepressants, antihistamines, and blood pressure drugs.

[Claude]

Like, we're not histamines.

[Jackie]

He's gonna fall asleep on the date.

[Claude]

Antihistamines. No, you need an antihistamine or mouth breathing.

[Jackie]

So maybe you could, like, plug his nose at night.

[Claude]

It sounds like he's, like, well hydrated. Not on medication, not using drugs. Maybe you're just used to, like, kissing, like, medicated druggies.

[Jackie]

Can I say something? I feel, though, that, like, unless it's like, you know, a faucet, which it's definitely not. I feel like if you really liked him, like, you wouldn't even notice. Do you know what I mean? Oh, like, maybe, like, I would look a little deeper and think that maybe you don't like him because like, this is kind of a. How do you notice this?

[Claude]

Like. Yeah, you're like.

[Jackie]

I think you're being dramatic when you say your mouth is filling up with saliva. Like it's probably just like a really wet kiss.

[Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

And I think if you were really into him, like you would like that, like, that would be hot to you. And it's not. I feel like you just don't like him. But he's like a nice guy and you feel like you should.

[Claude]

Yeah. Because he's like you said, he's great

[Jackie]

in the dates and it's all good

[Claude]

and he's hydrated and he's not using drugs. Drugs.

[Jackie]

I think a personal audit is required here.

[Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

And of your life and on your,

[Claude]

like, pickiness, you know, Is it always something with you? And so. Right.

[Jackie]

Oh, it's so true. Is that what your friends are always saying about you?

[Claude]

Like, it's always something?

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Claude]

Because yeah. You can't date someone that you can't kiss, obviously.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Unfortunately.

[Claude]

But if you like, really, really like.

[Jackie]

And I feel like we're flexible, we like try to make things work.

[Claude]

Yeah. And I would just give different advice to the person based on their age. Sorry.

[Jackie]

It's true.

[Claude]

That's the, the truth.

[Jackie]

Hey, swirlies. My friend group has a habit of sending flowers whenever someone's going through something difficult or celebrating a major milestone. And they always ask everyone to chip in. The problem is that when my grandmother passed away, when I had surgery and when I graduated with my master's degree, the same friends who all knew what was happening never organized flowers or did anything similar for me. But they asked me to chip in for flowers for other friends in the exact same situations. Now they're asking me to contribute again. And I'm struggling because it feels like the expectation to give is one sided. Am I being petty for not wanting to keep pitching in or is it reasonable to step back after feeling overlooked multiple times?

[Claude]

Times. So she always sends flowers for everyone.

[Jackie]

And the friend group, they just have this thing where they send flowers and she always does it for her for three different things. Now her grandmother passed, she got surgery and then she got her master's degree. Like three big things.

[Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Yeah. That is really weird if it's like this thing you guys do.

[Claude]

So I would like tell them like, no, I'm going to do my own.

[Jackie]

You don't want to be like so petty being like, well, you guys send me flowers like, you sound like a two year old. But like, no, it's. I'M all about fairness. And, like, this is not fair.

[Claude]

Yeah, I would. I would just, like, opt out of this one in particular activity and, like, do your own thing. Send flowers to someone when you feel like they need flowers. If they don't ever send you flowers back when you think that you require flowers, like, then you can judge this specific relationship. But, like, you don't. This doesn't need to be a group exercise.

[Jackie]

No, but this is really sweet. Like, I feel like sending flowers is sort of like an old school thing, and that's really nice.

[Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Sorry that you're opting out, but it's nice.

[Claude]

No, but send your own flowers. Yeah. You know, like, we.

[Jackie]

I don't know. But then that person didn't send you flowers. Flowers. Do you know what I mean?

[Claude]

But do you want to do the right thing or not?

[Jackie]

Right. And, like, in this life, you can't always be doing tip for tat.

[Claude]

Is this occasion worthy of flowers? I feel like sometimes people, like, listen to group flowers. Like, when it's like, okay, like, calm down, you know?

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Claude]

So this way you can be the judge of when you send flowers and when you don't.

[Jackie]

Yeah. I just feel like if you excuse

[Claude]

yourself, who individually is snubbing you?

[Jackie]

If you excuse yourself. I feel like it's like a slow start, like being out of the friend group. Do you know what I mean?

[Claude]

Like, we all do this sounds like you're already. That's the thing.

[Jackie]

Like, you're not an equal member.

[Claude]

You're not an equal member.

[Jackie]

That's a tough pill to swallow.

[Claude]

And I'm about equality.

[Jackie]

What? Fairness reigns supreme.

[Claude]

I stand for equality 1000%.

[Jackie]

Sorry if that's flowers.

[Claude]

Sorry if that's controversial.

[Jackie]

It kind of is.

[Claude]

So do unto others as you would not. The golden rule unto you, you. And do unto others as they have done unto you.

[Jackie]

Slay mama.

[Claude]

An eye for an eye. Slay flowers for no one.

[Jackie]

All right, here's our update. I don't know if you remember last week, a girl wrote in and said that her husband told her to shut her fat mouth in front of her daughters because he, like, came home in a bad mood. And we told her that, like, her man is low key, abusive, and it's so not okay. And he needs to be left alone more like, you need to stop hanging out with him. Like, go on walks with your daughter.

[Claude]

I saw a lot of people commenting, like, you need to throw hands. Yeah, you should beat him up.

[Jackie]

Here's what you said. I just wanted to say thank you for your Honest input. Last week, I felt validated in my feelings. And you guys are right. My focus was on the wrong part because she was obsessed with being called fat. I'm like, can you call you fat? Like, anyway, after I was able to process and get my mind in the right place, I confronted my husband, and I let it all out. It was not pretty. Although his words are forever ingrained in my brain, I think I can move forward and forgive him. Obviously, that will be revisited if something like that happens again. My girls are so young. I don't want them living in two separate houses going back and forth. But I will not be raising girls who think that this is normal behavior. I appreciate being able to seek advice from two swirlies outside of my bubble. Thanks again, ladies. Enjoy your summer in the Hamptons. And you know what? That's what a committed woman does. Does. She speaks her mind, doesn't make any rash decisions. You have to look out for this kind of behavior. But, like, no, of course you don't have to leave him. Like, you have a family with him, and, like, he is an. And I think our advice of ignoring him more is good no matter what. H. Like, even if you guys work things out, it's always good. It's actually true. When I was getting married, like, a piece of advice one of my friends mama gave me, she's like, you have to ignore your husband. I ignore my husband 100 times a day. And I was like, really? That's so mean. She was like, ignore. Ignore the calls. Just ignore. And it's really good advice. Like, you don't need to be, like, up your partner's ass. So. So I think that advice I would keep with you, but I am really proud of you. Like, I'm sure a lot of people be like, I would leave. Well, you know what? Everyone says they're so big and strong, but at the end of the day, you have two kids, and you're doing what's best for your family, and you're speaking up for yourself. It's literally Khloe Kardashian, you're doing what's best for your family. Yeah, I'm doing what's best for my family. And I'm happy for you.

[Claude]

Yeah, I'm happy too. And it sounds like he apologized. Yeah, she didn't say he apologized, but she said. She said that she was able to

[Jackie]

forgive him, which I assume means there was also an apology. Yeah, because if you're not sorry, I can't forgive you.

[Claude]

But. Or it's like, I'm gonna Forgive you for my own sake. To not hold on to this.

[Jackie]

Which is also good. Like you want ever. You know, your daughters deserve a mom who's, you know, not full of resentment and.

[Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Anger.

[Claude]

So I'm proud of you and just, like, moving forward. Keep it moving.

[Jackie]

Keep it moving.

[Claude]

Go and walk without him. Without.

[Jackie]

When he comes home in one of those moods, just avoid like the plague. Listen, I feel like Ben could have written that about me. Like, I get in such bad mood moods, right? And I get in, like. And I'm a great wife. Like, I'm not equating me to this

[Claude]

guy, but, like, someone could take an isolated incident right where. Of a thing that you said in, like, a moment.

[Jackie]

Oh, my God. Of rage.

[Claude]

And then they're like. It seems like a bigger statement on, like, you as a person, but it's like, no, that was an isolated moment. She's an amazing wife.

[Jackie]

So this. I. I forgot to tell you this. This video of me went viral. Did you say, like, again? Yeah, it was of me and Ben. It's seriously so funny. Let me find it. Just hold on.

[Claude]

I need to see it.

[Jackie]

And it's like, of me being, like, mean to Ben. It has 1.4 mil. Okay, ready? Let's listen. I. Someone took it from. It's from a Patreon video when me and Ben went to the farmers market. And like, yes, this isolated incident. I look mean. And people in the comments are like, wait, she's so mean. But listen, he's trying a coffee pretty good.

[Claude]

I'll give this

[Jackie]

7 out of 10. And I'll give your posture a 3 out of 10. Is that not so funny? That's what I mean when I say, like, sometimes. And the comments are like, mean girl gets the good guy. So the other one, the divorce came out of nowhere. Now people defending me in the comments. She made fun of him for something he can correct with three seconds. You guys are so dramatic.

[Claude]

That is so.

[Jackie]

Leave her, bro.

[Claude]

That's the truth. Like, that is like, that's funny. No, but also it's like, yes, if you just.

[Jackie]

I hope he finds better.

[Claude]

If you just saw that clip, you'd be like, wow, that's. That's awful. Yeah, but like, no, I know you guys, like, offline. And when I tell you there's not two kinder.

[Jackie]

More like, I just. That is my sense of humor.

[Claude]

Like, I poke fun that show. I want to see it. No, and it's also, like, it's a bit like, it's just funny.

[Jackie]

Oh, and I was also on Camera. So I'm, like, trying to make entertaining content. You guys.

[Claude]

Wait, wait. What is this account? I'm cragging up a bald woman who's running. Change up her hair a lot. No, but it's not brown. Is she bald?

[Jackie]

Yes.

[Claude]

A bald woman who's running out of Goodwill. That's it.

[Jackie]

If you guys haven't seen our Patreon

[Claude]

episode, that's when we did headbands Patreon,

[Jackie]

where we try to guess the celebrities on our foreheads. It's so funny.

[Claude]

Wait, hold on. Can I watch one more?

[Jackie]

Okay, but like that. I want my phone back.

[Claude]

Okay. When my husband is on my last nerve. But he's doing what I ask, so we'll keep him around.

[Jackie]

I need another sugar, please. Do you need more cream? No, I need more sugar.

[Claude]

You need more cream?

[Jackie]

I need another. It's all going viral. It's like, not big deal.

[Claude]

Good stuff.

[Jackie]

I know. I forget how truly hysterical I am.

[Claude]

Truly hysterical.

[Jackie]

No one, like, the posture thing is so funny. Like, honestly, slay on my part. That's like a really creative and original jab.

[Claude]

Funny. Oh, my God.

[Jackie]

That's to say that's not what your husband was doing. Back to the original poster.

[Claude]

Much like the bald woman who's running out of Goodwill. I didn't know that was happening.

[Jackie]

That's what you missed.

[Claude]

So, yes, things can be. People can have moments.

[Jackie]

I agree.

[Claude]

Hard to hear moments when you're, like,

[Jackie]

in a marriage with someone. Like, they. They truly see the worst of you. Like, I can only imagine, like, what Ben has seen. As long as that's not, like, the leading feeling.

[Claude]

And that there's good.

[Jackie]

That way outweighs it.

[Claude]

There's a lot of good stuff here.

[Jackie]

There's good stuff here, right? That's your toasters. And that's our show. Thank you guys so much for listening to the Toast and Landing morning show. We deliver the past five stories that you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So you're watching us on YouTube. Please feel free to subscribe and give this video a thumbs up. We're also available as podcast anywhere. Podcast. We found Set, Spotify, Apple Podcasts and YouTube. Wherever you listen to podcast fan. As a toasty five star, stunning and wickedly talented. We are. Hope you guys have an amazing day.

[Claude]

Oh, my God.

[Jackie]

Not us. Having over 500 comments on yesterday's card. Where the hell are you? Every day you should be getting like, 20.

[Claude]

Okay, let's do another one.

[Jackie]

Okay.

[Claude]

If you made it to the end of this episode, comment the book because

[Jackie]

we did, like, a lot of book.

[Claude]

A book emoji.

[Jackie]

A book emoji. Any one of your choosing. Okay. Love ya.

[Claude]

Love ya. Bye.