A (1:35)

Yeah, of course you were on the breath.

B (1:37)

The morning breath.

A (1:37)

Yes. When we were in la, it was the morning breath. Pop up.

B (1:39)

Yes.

A (1:40)

And I thought that was your first time.

B (1:41)

No, because I felt a familiarity with you guys. I remember my publicist being like, oh, they want you back or something. But I think we, I, I, I think we had some sort of little junket and maybe you guys came. Oh, we had like a little like a little press, like one season two or season one or something for the show.

A (1:57)

Well, I remember you coming on the breath because you like, I always like liked you and knew you. But you impressed me so much because you came on the toes and I don't know if you said it to us off camera, but you said, I feel like I think Kylie Jenner's pregnant. We were like, girl, there's literally no way.

B (2:13)

I knew.

A (2:14)

We're like, no, there's no way. And then a year later she literally posted like Stormy's born and Jackie and I were like, oh my God.

B (2:21)

I had to know. But it's. I just pay attention. So I. And also for. It's not even like I'm purposely watching that, but if you follow someone on Instagram, you see what they're wearing, all that. And that was like Kai, you know, King Kylie, she was wearing her little. And it was the middle of summer, I remember. And she had her King of Kylie. No, what is it? Life of Kylie show coming out.

A (2:39)

Oh, such.

B (2:41)

She did an E press interview and a sweatshirt in the middle of August. And I was like, this girl is showing body, body, body all the time. And I think. And I remember cause I was at E at the time too. So I was like, the press push is a little light. Like I think she was like getting days off. And there must have been some sort of behind the scenes too thing. Like maybe actually like we ended up being able to use a studio because Kylie canceled.

A (3:03)

That's right.

B (3:03)

Weird. And then I was just watching and it just, I just felt it.

A (3:07)

It was one of the most impressive celebrity predictions I'd ever, ever experienced.

B (3:12)

You just pay attention. I don't know. I pay attention, but I'm like that all the time. Like, I know when people are getting their boobs. Like I can just tell senses. I can just. Because when you're seeing people online every day and then something changes or their habits change, it's just. I'm like, something's up.

A (3:24)

Do you have high screen time? Are you. Do you monitor your screen time or you just check? You don't. But you do rot a lot.

B (3:29)

Like you just go a lot. I have been recently, I really go through times when I'm like, I'm going to read a book. I'm not going to, you know, I'm going to go on a walk. But sometimes I just let myself have it. And recently I've been. For some reason TikTok has been putting me to bed like nothing else can do it. But I just scroll and then it calms me and then I can fall asleep.

A (3:47)

Well, TikTok was blowing up most recently about you because your wedding sort of took the Internet by storm. It was so gorgeous. We would expect nothing less from you because. And I said this when we were like recapping your wedding on the toast. You have a very high bar for like style and you're very critical of other people. So you have to have your house in order. When you are criticizing other people's just design choices.

B (4:06)

And when you're hosting.

A (4:07)

Yes. And your wedding was so beautiful. Can you tell me a little bit about how you met your husband and he's a Jew and you converted, which. Yes, I have so many questions.

B (4:16)

So Brandon is a New York Jew, fourth generation.

A (4:19)

He's actually my cousin.

B (4:20)

I know maybe somewhere we're related.

B (4:24)

We actually met at a Halloween party.

A (4:25)

Okay.

B (4:26)

I always get the years wrong. Cause I'm very bad with the years. I think we met four years ago. Maybe four years, three years ago. I'm not sure. My first New York. My first Halloween that I moved from LA to New York, I was with all my girlfriends. And some of my girlfriends were actually friends with him. And I would hear his name in passing. I wonder what Brandon Yankovic is doing. Like, well, whatever. And then we were all going to the same Halloween party. It was the year that the net opened and they were having this Halloween party. I was with my girlfriends. He was going. And we actually met separately downstairs. So we were going up to the party to meet our friends, and we locked eyes at the elevator. And then when we got up, he was like, oh, hi, I'm Brandon. Can I get you a drink? And we were talking at the bar, and then our mutual friends all came over and we're like, how do you know each other? I was like, how do you know. This is the boy I met downstairs. This is our friend Brandon. And so it was kind of cute because we kind of met on our own before. We were gonna meet through our friends.

A (5:16)

You don't hear people meeting like that these days. It's so like old school.

B (5:20)

Meeting in person, meeting in person, locking eyes, being like, oh, he's cute.

A (5:24)

Did you know, like, pretty quickly.

B (5:25)

Well, what I have to. It was always very intentional with him. Like that night he said, oh, would you like to go out on. Would you like to go out next weekend? And he. Because I had told him I just moved to New York, he said, what brings you to New York? Said, I want to try new things. I want to experience different things. I lived in LA my whole life. And so he's like, oh, have you been to the show Company XIV in Brooklyn? Would you like to go? And I said, sure. And by the time I woke up the next morning, he had texted me and sent me the tickets and was like, a car. I'll. I'll have a car. Appreciative, like, car will pick you up at 7:30. So it was always very intentional. And I remember on the first date, I remember telling my friends after and recapping and just saying, like, this is what a husband should feel like I didn't know if he was going to be my husband, but I was like, this is how they should feel, and.

A (6:09)

This is how you should be treated.

B (6:10)

This is how. Yes, he was. He was just such a good. Like, just a good gem. Like a gem of a person. And he just. He really. I always just say that, like, he had so many. Like, he was an athlete, he's very smart, he goes out. Like, there's a lot of avenues in which he could have kind of become a douchebag or become not a nice person. And he just really is like the nicest, most caring, thoughtful person. Like, he sometimes, like, he always wants people to feel good. If we're at a party and he feels like someone doesn't know someone, he'll be like, dorothy, let's go talk to them. So they feel like coming from la, where everyone's scared to talk to anyone, it's like, I was like, what? But he's like, let's go talk to her and make sure she feels like, you know, she has, like, she knows people here.

A (6:49)

My, wait, that's so sweet. And so what point in your courtship did you start talking about converting? Was that something you wanted to take up? Was it, like a requirement for him?

B (6:58)

He kind of, I think once we got a little bit more serious, obviously, maybe, like, I don't know, maybe like a year. And we're talking about future. And I think he mentioned, you know, I've always hoped that my wife would be Jewish. Like, would you be open to converting? And growing up in Beverly Hills, being from la, going to every Bat Mitzvah, you're basically Jewish. My parents have a lot of Jewish friends, Jewish partners. I grew up with amazing Jewish friends and their family. So it felt. It didn't feel so foreign to me.

A (7:25)

Right.

B (7:25)

And for me, I also was not raised religiously, so for me, it was really. It wasn't like I was leaving religion. Yes. I was just gaining something, not losing something. So. And if it makes him happy and, you know, it's important to him, I love that.

A (7:38)

Like, and when you were posting about your journey, I was freaking, like, first of all, where do you start? Like, how do you feel? Find the right place. And what denomination, like, did you do Conservative. What did you do?

B (7:49)

Not conservative. I don't know. Reform. Reform, Reform. So we had. We found a rabbi. So Brandon's friends, parent, family, friends, knew a guy who knew a guy. We got put in touch with Rabbi Michael Ehrlich. He's from Florida and West Hampton, so he kind of goes back and forth. And my process was very. It was very straightforward. I read a book called to be a Jewish, and it was just like a guide to observance of Judaism in the modern era. And we did four to five zooms. We talked about it. I had my mikvah, and then I was Jewish.

A (8:23)

How was the mikvah?

B (8:24)

It was great.

A (8:24)

It's very peaceful.

B (8:25)

No, I kind of wanted to stay in there for a while. The water felt nice.

A (8:28)

It's really fresh.

B (8:29)

Like spring water. Yes, it's really fresh. And. Yeah, no, it felt great.

A (8:34)

That's so funny. And so did you have, like, Jewish traditions at your wedding? You stood under a clipper. He wore yarmulke.

B (8:39)

Yes, we had a Jewish ceremony. We flew the rabbi out. Michael. Michael Erling. Rabbi, yes, same rabbi. Yes. And we all. But also we had a Chinese tea ceremony.

A (8:51)

I saw.

B (8:51)

I love that we like to merge the tradition.

A (8:53)

I love that there's something cool. I was just having this conversation with someone, like, when you. I feel like when you grow up with, like, a. With a strong heritage and, like. Or if you like. I think a lot of people grew up in immigrant households. Like, sometimes it's like, an annoying thing when you're growing up. Like, you know, you e. Or you have to do different things than your, like, you know, gentile friends.

B (9:10)

Yes.

A (9:11)

But then I feel like when you get older, having those traditions, especially as you get married, it's like, the best.

B (9:15)

It's so cool, and it makes you, like. I don't know. I always felt so different and unique. I think growing up, especially during lunchtime. Lunchtime was hard. Of course, lunchtime as, like, a Chinese, it's very difficult. Cause you're eating weird fruits. It's wrapped differently. Like, I don't know. Asians love to Saran wrap. I would just be like, mom, can I just Ziploc?

A (9:32)

Just a Ziploc.

B (9:33)

Tupperware. Tupperware something. Or like, can I get a thermos with ravioli inside? It was. No, that was not happening.

A (9:40)

But then also, I feel like as you got older, it even. It became even more celebrated. Like Bling Empire. Yes, that was. Okay. So you've been on two pretty iconic reality shows. One on a streamer and one on E. And I'm so curious, like, what the difference was in terms of, like, format and just, like, overall experience.

B (9:55)

It was really different. Like, we didn't know. I always joke. We didn't know how good we had it at E. Like, E was. We were, like, being handheld, and we had the nicest producers and they really cared about us. And we would have meetings with the network. Like, they. They'd be like, oh, this episode, the next episode might be tough for some of you guys. Why don't you come in? Like, we would meet with. We were so. We were on E, but it was also an ITV production. So we had like two different, I guess, networks and executive teams that we're meeting with. We would see the things before. We'd have heart to hearts. We'd talk all at a roundtable like this about what bothered us, what we should improve. So we were. It was. And it was not like nasty, nasty, you know, and they really cared and we were very in the loop. We had a million emails all the time. And so that was how I kind of thought all reality shows were, but it really was not. When I went to Netflix, Netflix, you know, they have so many shows and they get so many eyes, so much exposure, but it is kind of just like, okay, we have. We have your. We. You're premiering this week. You have our emails this week and we're going to air it. And then like you kind of like, see, you never.

A (10:55)

Wow.

B (10:56)

Really?

A (10:57)

You're just like sort of a cog in a machine.

B (10:58)

Yes. Because they have so much stuff and I think for them they're more like content, content, content all the time. And they actually want you to binge and watch once and move on to the next thing. Yeah, it's not like a keep watching. They're not gonna replay it and re. Pump it up and re hype it up.

A (11:14)

And it's hard like now to have the sort of impact that rich kids did. And I think at the time, like, we didn't. You had to be there. Right?

B (11:20)

You had to be there if, you know, you know, how many seasons was it? It was four seasons.

A (11:24)

And why did it end?

B (11:26)

Honestly, I don't. We were a little surprised. We thought we had one more season. You know, four seasons at that age, it did feel like, you know, what do we do? Like, we all want to do other things, this and that, but we thought maybe four. We had one more season in us. And then at the end of four, they. To be honest, they. I think E was trying to figure out what they wanted and they thought that they had this. So we were. When we were canceled, we actually were the second highest rated show. So we were right under the Kardashians.

A (11:53)

So weird.

B (11:53)

And. But they, I think behind the scenes are just like, you know, you're kind of an expensive show and we were there for four years, so, you know, our salaries are getting a little higher. They banked on a couple other shows that were going to take off that quote, they work for less and they'll do more and work for less was kind of the quote that we heard. So. And I'm like, well, we're not those people, you know, But I always said that you can't hire kids that you're calling rich kids and then try to cheap them out or think they're gonna be easy.

A (12:20)

A thousand percent win, too.

B (12:22)

They'd be like, okay, we're, like, doing this show about, like, billionaire, wealthy Asians and, like. But. But like, you, we. We can't get you a water and we can't do this and we can't do that. And so it's like, it didn't add up. Like, you can't hype us up and then try to bring us down also. You gotta take it all in a.

A (12:37)

Unique thing, because you guys didn't need to be on tv. I think a lot of times reality TV gets very good because the people who are on those shows are, like, a little desperate for. Or they really need the attention and the fame and all that comes with it and the money. And you guys are in an interesting position on most of the shows that you've been on where you guys don't really need to be on those shows.

B (12:53)

No, it was just fun for us. It was fun. We love to storytell. We love to go on the trip. Being on NBC was really fun because they. They, like, now it's like they have Bravo Con. But we used to have, like, NBCUniversal up fronts. And if you got chosen.

A (13:07)

Did you ever get chosen?

B (13:08)

Oh, of. Yeah, Every year we were there. Like, it was always fun. You do the upfronts, you do the big shoots and all this stuff. And we were doing like. Like airline commercials and stuff like that. So it was fun to be part of the NBC Universal fam.

A (13:20)

And that group of people, you guys really were friends, like, and knew each other for many years before and after the show ended. I know you and Ezra besties EJ too.

B (13:30)

Ej. Yes.

A (13:32)

How many. How much of the group, like, splintered off? Like, I know, like, Roxy does her own thing and, like, you and Morgan are always, like, interacting on social. But not like, best friends or. What is the status, Johnny? Like, what is the status of the group, Johnny?

B (13:42)

Johnny and I are like pen pals. Like, we love a little gab. I haven't seen him. I haven't seen him. For probably six years. Six, seven years. But for my wedding, he sent me flowers. We sent each other funny memes, stuff like that. We don't really see each other, but, you know, the connections there. EJ just moved to New York.

A (13:58)

Oh.

B (13:59)

I ran into. Ran into him at Bergdorff a couple times. We catch up. We. Kiki. Roxy, I see here and there, you know, not as close because she lives in la. She lives in la. She has two children. Children now.

A (14:11)

Right, right, right. And were any of the rich kids of Beverly Hills at your wedding?

B (14:15)

No.

A (14:16)

Was that an intentional choice? Was it a small wedding?

B (14:19)

155. So it's a medium. It's not huge.

A (14:22)

No, it's not.

B (14:22)

But it's not tiny. Tiny. And I just think that, you know, when you have a wedding, wedding season, it's really. It's a lot about, like, self realization, like, who you want to be around, who's there for you. You know what I mean? The vibes, the people who loves you, who also has a connection with Brandon. Like, you know, you're merging. Merging. Like, who have we had dinner with? You know? And so I never felt for me, even if it's certain family members, like, I don't feel like you have to invite anyone. You know, it's also like, oh, did you. Have you seen them in the last year? Have you gotten dinner? Did they say congratulations? You know, it's a lot of whoever was meant to be there was. Right.

A (14:56)

It was so beautiful. Why Italy?

B (14:59)

We were looking, and I don't know, it was probably gonna either be France or Italy. And we ended up doing Italy. And we just thought the food, the warmth, and it was just somewhere that, to be honest, we just, like, we didn't want to have a really long engagement and we didn't want to, like, keep dragging it on. So we were just, like, looking and looking. And then we found. We first went to Lake Como. And then we love Florence, and, like, we just loved being in Florence. And for the wedding, we wanted it to be a fun trip for everyone, too. Not just a wedding that's bang, bang, bang wedding stuff. Like, we want a town for people to explore. We want shops, we want good food.

A (15:33)

We want.

B (15:34)

So we kind of crafted our wedding schedule. First of all, it was kind of crafted on me not being tired. That's my biggest fear. I hate being tired. I don't want to be tired and ugly and like a raisin on my wedding day. So we spread it out to where we had our welcome rehearsal dinner. So also, I don't like when weddings have too many events.

A (15:51)

Interesting. Okay.

B (15:52)

I think I look short and sweet, like, kind of. You know when you're at a wedding and it's like, okay, these people again, for the fourth day in a row, it's like a little much. So we had. We merge. Wedding. Sorry, Ceremony, rehearsal dinner and welcome dinner on the first night.

A (16:07)

Okay. Two dinners is not necessary. Separate.

B (16:09)

You don't need a welcome and then a rehearsal.

A (16:11)

Agreed.

B (16:12)

We can do it together. And then that was like one big night. And then the Friday, we had like, kind of like pizzas and like, kind of come and go as you please. Chill. But then we also arranged, like, museum tickets and tours and pasta classes. So that's kind of a chill day for people to rest. And then at night, it was off. Anyone can do whatever they wanted. Also, a lot now a lot of our friends, you know, they're married, they have kids, they're away, they want to go on a date night, they want to relax. It's like we want them to explore wherever we were gonna be. So we had that night off, and then we convene again on Saturday for the wedding. And everyone was so rested. So then for the wedding, everyone was able to stay up until like 4 or 5 in the morning and, like, have the best time because we had that day off. And no brunch.

A (16:52)

No. Oh, by the way, we need to be done with the post wedding brunch.

B (16:56)

No, no, no.

A (16:58)

I agree.

B (16:58)

And what time do you make the brunch? Some people are still five, six.

A (17:01)

Like, no. And a lot of people leave the next day. It's just. I agree.

B (17:04)

And it's more fun to say bye to everyone when you're up at night, like the hungover brunch and with the parents and the family. Oh, my God, the worst of your parents.

A (17:12)

What do your parents make of your Jew? Like, when you told them you were converted to Judaism, what was their reaction?

B (17:16)

They just said. They said, great.

A (17:17)

Oh, really?

B (17:18)

I don't think to them it also was not that foreign. Like, I always had a lot of Jewish friends, you know, so it was a good. And we used to be. We're very. A lot of. My. My dad has a partner who's Jewish, also his family. So they would also always joke that we're Junies and that, you know, we have so many similarities between the cultures. So it was not so foreign.

A (17:35)

Now that you're married, do you think your journey with reality TV is over or you're still open to perhaps a Real Housewife of New York?

B (17:42)

It's a different. It's just different now. You know, I think that now you think about other things and I always used to say like yes to everything but now I have someone else to think of, think about. And he is very private. But he has recently opened up a little bit. He got his Instagram. We, he's been open to doing. We've been filming a little something. So he, you know, you're just more cautious. Just more cautious. And I think nowadays like I also for me it's like. And also for the certain shows I've been on, you can tell when I'm kind of like don't want to be there. And it is kind of miserable to be with people who like you don't really want to be around and in for situations and especially for situations where people are going to fight with you.

A (18:18)

That's.

B (18:19)

I think I finally have gotten over like the trauma and the PTSD of that because when you film a show that.

A (18:24)

From rich kids or from bling at. Both.

B (18:25)

Yeah, both. I think it's just a lot of attacking all the time. But that's just the nature of it. Like when you're on a show.

B (18:32)

The thing that's great about not being on a show is that you can just like keep your opinions yourself.

A (18:36)

Right.

B (18:36)

Which you have many, I have many. But now it's like my flex is like I'm just gonna keep it to myself. I know but like I like watch myself before. Sometimes clips come up and I'm like, I can't believe I was just like rattling everything out. I couldn't even imagine doing that nowadays. I mean we were, I was 25, I think, which is for us also we were kids. I know people like they're 25, you could be married with kids. We were like Beverly Hills little kids. Like you're still kids. Like I was still, I think living at my parents house, still very youthful, you know. So we've, it was young and I mean we're just rattling things out now. I watch all the young kids on TikTok.

A (19:11)

I'm like, yes.

B (19:11)

That was like me like just saying whatever comes to mind. But now it's like I don't want to really offend people. I don't want, you know, so it's a different. I think you just mature and you just kind of think about what's more important or what's the message that's important to send out, you know.

A (19:26)

Well, so I think for people my age, like that show like was such an important part of our come up and when you see those clips, because they're always being resurfaced, like iconic, you and Morgan would say your little dual confessional. So cute.

B (19:39)

We know. We were the first people. We invented the double. The double. The double interview.

A (19:43)

You and Morgan.

B (19:44)

Yes. I mean, they told us to do it, obviously, but we were the first to do it. Right.

A (19:48)

That's such an interesting fun fact. When you see those clips, like, does your butt clench or do you love it?

B (19:53)

It depends. Yeah, it depends. But I also think that I grew a lot as the seasons went on, because what first season, you know, we're going in with literally itemized hair extensions.

A (20:02)

The itemized Bill.

B (20:02)

Itemized Bill. Oh, my God. But that was a real life thing. The itemized Bill.

A (20:05)

Oh, it was, though.

B (20:06)

It happened. Did I put one earring in?

A (20:09)

Oh, hopefully you didn't lose it.

B (20:10)

I don't know.

A (20:11)

That's a big earring, girl. Where are those earrings from?

B (20:14)

Yes. My mom. A long time ago. Lovely. I know.

A (20:16)

We'll check the floor. Don't worry.

B (20:17)

Maybe I should put it on this ear since we, like, kind of facing. I don't think I'll. I'll text Brandon. I think I was probably in a rush because I had, you know, she.

A (20:26)

Had a glam emergency, you guys, before she got here.

B (20:28)

Glam emergency, always. It just makes me feel young again. The glam emergency. I haven't had a glam emergency in a really long time.

A (20:33)

What was today's emergency?

B (20:35)

It just wasn't great, you know?

A (20:36)

Okay.

B (20:36)

It was also rushed.

A (20:38)

Yeah. Right. It's early morning.

B (20:39)

Yeah. But I. But I also like a specific way, and it's like trying. You know, when you try a new person, I'm just gonna do whatever, and then I'm like, oh. And I'm, like, trying to fix my eyebrows and stuff.

A (20:47)

Well, you look gorgeous.

B (20:48)

Thank you.

A (20:50)

Sorry. The itemized bill.

B (20:52)

Oh, itemized Bill. It was a real thing.

A (20:54)

Okay.

B (20:54)

But the thing was that with that. I know there's so much, like, debate about, like, do you go to a dinner and itemize or not? I think the gracious thing to do is.

A (21:02)

Can you remind me what the storyline actually was?

B (21:04)

Okay.

A (21:04)

Was that you guys all went to a group dinner and somebody want to itemize the bill, and you were upset off camera.

B (21:08)

No, no, it was actually opposite. So off. This was three years before, so Roxy and I actually had got. Went to USC together. We'd go to a lot of, like, we would go to spring breaks and stuff, all in a big group. And Morgan, actually, she didn't Go to USC with us. But she came.

A (21:22)

She was like a part of the group.

B (21:23)

She came with, actually, her now husband.

A (21:26)

Oh.

B (21:27)

And they were all there with us, and we all went to a sushi restaurant. And, you know, the vibes are just different. Me and this one other girl, we weren't feeling well. We didn't. We ordered one roll to share, and we weren't drinking, and everyone else was like, eight to 10. You know, when you take eight, 10 shots, big dinner or whatever. So we had already said, like, you know, we're, like, just gonna share one role. We, like, made it kind of known like, we're tired. We're gonna share one role. So then when the bill came, they were just like, you just have to pay it. And we're like, what? And then they, like, cornered me in the bathroom, and they're like, you. Your dad is so rich, and you're just not gonna pay the bill? And, like, it was just kind of, like, a little bit, like, disgusting to me.

A (22:03)

I don't know.

B (22:03)

Like, I think that. That obviously you don't want to nickel and dime every. Like, I had one piece of salad, whatever, of course.

A (22:08)

But you guys were at basically two different dinners.

B (22:10)

Yes, but the gracious thing to do is even at a dinner, when I'm ordering more than I'm hungrier than other people, like, I'll say, let me leave the tip, because I ordered more, or I'm drinking and you're not. I'm usually not drinking, so I think it's not like you notice there's a difference. So why should two people just because we're sitting there and they're like, you know, you have to just, like, pay everything, and it was just not.

A (22:30)

Do you not drink?

B (22:31)

No, I just don't drink so much anymore. Back then, I usually was drinking, but that was, like, our off night. It was, like a Sunday, I think it was just, like, late, and we were just not in the mood. That was so fun. So then that was a real life thing. So then they knew that Roxy and I had this tiff about it, right? And then. So then when we were there, they brought it up again. We went back to the same restaurant, got it, and they brought it up again. And they wanted us to, like, you know, bring up the. You know, and it did. We were so drunk, right? And I think I cried. I think Morgan screams like it was a whole thing.

A (23:00)

But, like, when. When that episode and that storyline was airing, like, I was very much in my group dinner era. Like, we were talking about it all.

B (23:07)

But you just have to know, like, I usually am. Like, yes, if you're at a group dinner, everyone's on the same vibe. But, like, let's say someone's pregnant, they're not drinking. I think the gracious thing to do for the people ordering more is to say you really didn't have a lot. You didn't drink. Like, we'll leave the tip or don't worry about it. Or, like, just pay your share.

A (23:24)

No, you're so we had already told.

B (23:26)

The waiter, by the way, we told.

A (23:27)

The waiter that you wanted, like, a separate.

B (23:29)

We're having a separate, like, separate bill.

A (23:30)

That's how it should have been. Yeah, that's seriously.

B (23:33)

And it's not like I do it all the time. It was just like, once in a while, like.

A (23:35)

But also, I don't think anyone would look at you and say you're, like, a cheap person.

B (23:39)

Yeah.

A (23:39)

But you don't have a history.

B (23:40)

Yeah, let me save when I can.

A (23:42)

Like, literally, like, one wheel.

B (23:44)

I have one wheel off.

A (23:45)

I remember when you said you were, like, in your confessionals, you were like, rich people don't say rich by just paying for everybody. Like, seriously, so iconic.

B (23:50)

But it's true. You gotta. Yeah, I did say that. You did. Oh, my God. I love that you were both.

A (23:55)

No, but I tell you, like, the cultural impact of rich kids does not get talked about enough.

B (23:59)

Honestly, I feel like we were always everyone's side chick. Like, everyone would, like, we would have, like, a list. Celebrities come to us, like, on the low and be like, oh, my God, we love your show. I'm like, tweet about it. Yeah, but it was just kind of like, it was a guilty pleasure.

A (24:11)

Yeah, it was so good. Now, total separate. What, like, wellness, beauty things did you do before your wedding? Because you looked insane.

B (24:18)

Honestly, when those photos dropped. I know it was, but it really is just for me, this, like, the healthier and the less I eat, like, it's just the inflammation goes away. Weight loss is a big, big.

B (24:33)

For me. Like £5, £10 makes a big difference. Huge. And what I'm eating, if I'm getting inflamed or not, I really didn't do that much, honestly, because I also have been having my skin allergy issues.

A (24:43)

I know you for a while have been posting about, like, the changes in your diets that, like, you were having a lot of health issues.

B (24:48)

Yes. So I also, like, when I was younger, I would have done everything, tried everything. Now I think I'm more cautious and just, like, careful with my body. And what I try. So I. I didn't do anything abnormal. I mean, what did I do? I think I did some zoom whitening. I did go to Dr. Belkin and I got soft wave, but I did it kind of late. It's like a laser, Like a tightening laser. It hurts. You have to do the laughing gas with it, but it's like. No, but it's like a sting. I have. I hate lasers. I usually never even do lasers because it's like a slow torture. Like, I can do an injection, like, okay, five, four, three, two, when it's over. But a laser, it's like 30 minutes of, like, burning, burning, burning, burning stuff. It's like, too much. But I did do that. I was like, you know, it's their wedding. You have to do something. But I just really focused on my diet and eating small portions.

A (25:31)

And. Did you have a no social media rule? Because I didn't even know you had gotten married until the LP straw.

B (25:35)

Yes. So we asked everyone to just hold. We wanted everyone to be safe because everyone was there. We also didn't want anyone to get robbed in their way or anything, so. And, you know, we brought so many. Yes. We brought so many people there. We wanted them to be safe and wanted everyone to, you know, be able to leave Florence and, you know, before it got out.

A (25:55)

I love that the pictures were stunning. We loved the journey. And I'm so excited because while you are very interesting woman, you also have amazing opinions on other people and you're quite critical, which I love. So, Dorothy Wang, I am ready and I'm wondering if you are for the fast five stories.

B (26:09)

Okay, I am ready.

A (26:11)

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B (32:04)

To channel like 2015.

A (32:06)

The bitchier the better.

B (32:07)

Like the sassier.

A (32:08)

And you know what? This is actually, I'm not gonna go in any particular order, but about what you just said about people getting robbed. So, yes, we reported a little while ago that while Kathy Hilton was at BravoCon along with Sutton's Track, both of their homes were burglarized. And then more details came out that actually Rick Hilton was home. And now we're learning that Rick Hilton actually blasted his shotgun at the burglars during the break in. So Kathy Hilton is breaking her Silence about the terrifying moment that. That her husband Rick was grabbing a shotgun. He confronted the three burglars. They smashed their way into their swanky LA home while she was away up Brabicon. He was home. And she said, he got his shotgun out.

B (32:43)

Boom.

A (32:43)

And he said, get the fuck out of here. The police are on their way. Can you believe.

B (32:48)

Yeah.

B (32:50)

I was actually in LA and I was in the neighborhood when that happened, and I heard something. Oh, you're kidding. And I, like, ran to my family room and I was like, oh, my God, I heard something.

A (33:00)

You heard, like a gunshot?

B (33:01)

I didn't know what it was. I thought it was a loud door slamming. I didn't know what it was. Like, I was as. I was in LA and I, you know, was in the neighborhood, I heard. But I also drove past their house at a certain point that night. I was like, oh, their lights on. I remember noting, like, oh, they're lights on. Like security decoys.

A (33:16)

Right. That's what people do. Yes. Oh, my God. Good. This is just me learning that Rick Hilton is a gun owner.

B (33:21)

I know. And quick, quick. And lose your hole. I know. No, no, no. But also, like, the thing about the gun in the house, I just wonder, it's like, what if. Do you have to put a gun in every room?

A (33:30)

I know. What if you're downstairs and the gun is upstairs? Yes, exactly.

B (33:34)

Then you have to run upstairs or run downstairs.

A (33:36)

I know. And I also feel like a lot of times, like, people get like, a gun for safety, but when something actually happens, they, like, forget about it or they freak out or.

B (33:42)

It's so simple. Yeah. So Rick was moving quick.

A (33:45)

You don't often hear about, like, somebody effectively using their gun for protection.

B (33:49)

Yes. And then that they actually let left. Right.

A (33:52)

Because they worked.

B (33:53)

Because LA is just so sad right now. It's so. And honestly, when people from all around the world are flying to LA specifically to target and rob, you know that there's a hole in the system. It's a weak link. Like, people are flying from all over the world. Yes. Because it's so easy.

A (34:08)

Right.

B (34:08)

And the. And the police time, it takes like 20 minutes for the police to get there.

A (34:12)

Yeah.

B (34:13)

I had a friend who was getting married actually, and during her wedding, her, like, nest cam went off. They saw robbers and they're like, like, screaming at the robbers through the intercom. We can see you. We're taking screenshots. The police are coming. And they looked in the camera and said, the police? Will you live in LA? The police won't get here for 20 minutes, and we'll be out in 12. And they just continued on their way. They didn't even care. They didn't even care. Oh, my God. And it's just so easy. It's so bad.

A (34:39)

It's so bad. And then also, when you're a public figure and your schedule is, like, very public, they know Kathy Hilton's not home.

B (34:44)

But they didn't care.

A (34:44)

Count on Mr. Rick.

B (34:45)

Mr.

B (34:47)

Shotgun. I find, like, now he shot it in the office.

A (34:51)

Rick Hilton is, like, hot to me now. Like, he protected his home. Like, as a man should. It's a man's job.

B (34:56)

I know, but it would be a shotgun.

A (34:58)

Yeah, it's like, a hundred years old. It's, like, literally, like. What do they call it? Like, a musket, like, from the Revolutionary War.

A (35:06)

Well, I'm glad everyone's okay. That's such a crazy story.

B (35:09)

Bravo should, like, just have security for everyone when they leave. I know.

A (35:12)

It's so insane that this is sort of just like a rite of passage as, like, either, like, a wealthy person who lives in LA or a celebrity, like, so many housewives. Kyle. Yes, in that group. And specifically Kyle Dorit. Kathy. I think Teddy.

B (35:24)

Her home. Even though her husband Kyle's daughter.

A (35:27)

Insane. Have you ever been robbed?

B (35:29)

Knock on wood.

A (35:31)

Your tongue. But your tongue. Oh, you're so Jewish now.

A (35:34)

Okay, next story. Miley Cyrus is engaged, and it's just weird. Like, I don't care. She's newly engaged. She flashed her shiny new ring while gushing about her fiance, Max Mirando. So she went on Good Morning America yesterday. Spilled the tea. Yeah. She said, I'm usually a total control freak, but she surrendered in her relationship, and she was really blindsided by the proposal. She said everything in her life has lined up perfectly, from dropping her new song and then her upcoming, you know, whatever, and now getting engaged. She feels like she's really just everything. Coming. Coming up. Miley. Oh, I don't know this man. No, he has really crazy hair.

B (36:11)

There's one photo of them on a red carpet, and they have, like, matching hair. Yes, yes, yes.

A (36:16)

It's not how I saw Miley's journey ending, but I'm here for Miley's happiness.

B (36:19)

I know. Is she. Is he, like, a singer, an instrumentalist?

A (36:24)

What does he do? Okay, that's a great question.

B (36:27)

We don't know anything about him.

A (36:28)

I think he's, like, in the music industry.

B (36:30)

Miley, I feel like she is such an individual that it is hard for her to partner, like, want to be, you know, and she's working and she's such a good performer. I feel that, like it's maybe hard, you know, to be like, okay, why don't you come with me?

A (36:42)

Also scarred from her.

B (36:43)

Yes.

A (36:43)

Last and even though like, but good.

B (36:45)

Songs came from that.

A (36:46)

So good. And that was like, for me, that was like my Miley era. Like her and Liam, we know now how terrible and how toxic it was like at the time.

B (36:53)

I know she had. Yeah. But that's maybe why she went in such a different direction.

A (36:56)

So he's a drummer.

B (36:57)

Okay. For her or another band.

A (37:00)

So he's in a LA based band called Lily, which I of course have not heard of, but their band participated in NBC's Miley's New Year's Eve. Remember when she did that?

B (37:09)

Like Miami, I think I had a friend who managed there at that van.

A (37:11)

Actually wasn't doing a very good job.

A (37:16)

Well, they met in 2022 when he laughed at that when they did Miley's New Year's Eve party in Miami. So I guess that's, that's when they met. Oh, it's cute. I'm happy for her. Like, I, I, she does, she's, you.

B (37:29)

Know, she's, we love her. We do house on the Yankowitz household. Even Brandon's like, you know, she's just so talented.

A (37:36)

She's a. Brandon doesn't say anything mean about anyone.

B (37:38)

No, there's no, no, no. He has opinions.

A (37:40)

Oh, he does.

B (37:41)

He won't like air them out about, but he just has opinions. Like, and he'll just, he, she thinks that he's like, she's like a good girl. She works really hard. She's super talented. Like, great to watch.

A (37:49)

Do you think your husband has made you softer?

B (37:52)

Yes, I think so.

A (37:53)

I think so too. In a good way.

B (37:54)

I think he has. And also like the thing I always tell Brandon's like, he doesn't like the sassy. So I've kind of like, I'm not as sassy anymore. Well, maybe you don't need to be sassy.

A (38:05)

You don't?

B (38:05)

No.

A (38:05)

I think that's also like a part of growing up. I find that also like everything out of my mouth used to just be like, snarky. Yes.

B (38:10)

And everything needed to be a zinger. But now I'm like, I can, I can just let the other party relax.

A (38:17)

And it's just like so much more calm that way.

B (38:19)

Yes. Look at us progressing and maturing and.

A (38:22)

It'S not like a great time for this story because I do have something snarky to say, but. And that's only because it's about Prince Harry, who's probably my least favorite person on the planet. And I actually.

B (38:32)

We had high hopes for Prince Harry.

A (38:34)

So before I get into the story, what is your take on Meghan Harry and, like, the Internet's obsession with them?

B (38:40)

Are they obsessed with them in a negative way? I feel like they're being pushed on us in a way that. I don't know. Like, I don't know anyone that still cares. And I just think that their hook on us is that they're part of the Royal family. Right. And every day that goes past that they've left the Royal family, I feel like we're less and less interested.

A (38:57)

Right.

B (38:57)

And I just. I don't like that they. I don't know. First of all, you decide to join a family, the most public family in the world, and then you just, like, you kind of have to know what you're getting into.

A (39:05)

And then she did not.

B (39:07)

You're gonna. You're gonna rip it apart. But did she really not know what she was getting into?

A (39:11)

So this is like, my whole thesis in the toasters. I'm sorry for repeating myself, I guess. But, like, there's a lot of speculation about what went down during her time in the family. And I feel like, based on what I know from their retelling of the story in their documentary on Netflix, but also, just like, being a discerning, you know, commentator on culture, I do really feel like she had no idea and.

B (39:30)

She didn't know the. How difficult it would be. She thought it just kind of fun. And.

A (39:33)

And I think that.

A (39:36)

He is to blame for her experience. I think they collectively blame other members of the family, when in reality, like, it was on Harry to get her a teacher. It was on Harry to get stylist. It was on Harry. Emily Post. Like, he did none of that for her. And in the documentary, they were like. And the family didn't prepare me. It's like, he's the family. Like, he's born into your husband.

B (39:55)

He knows. He knows how he's protected you. He's seen how Kate's done it.

A (39:58)

He's seen what happened to his mother.

B (39:59)

Yes.

A (40:00)

So I, like, so blame Harry. And I think she receives a lot of the hate in, like, the States for what should be hate towards him. Like, I'm pro hating Harry. I'm pretty ambivalent on Meghan. I do think people are really hard on her, but I also think, like, she. She has no clue that, like, how people really feel about her and she really needs to, like, take a step back. But I think they need the money.

B (40:18)

I think they need the money. I think she's beautiful. I will give her that. But I am always a little, I don't know, sketched out about someone who never had an Instagram. Like she had bigger plans for herself. Like, she was playing that card.

A (40:30)

So she did have an Instagram for her blog, the Tig. Right.

B (40:34)

But she didn't have.

A (40:34)

You're right. Like a personal.

B (40:36)

But I just. I. For her to say she didn't even know who he was. Well, please.

A (40:39)

Yeah. You know what I mean?

B (40:40)

That's a little. But I also don't like that they talks, they. They want to leave, they don't want to do it. Seems like they want all the perks of being associated. Now she's like, wants everyone to call her by the title, the title thing. I mean, now it's like, I think she knows that that's her thing and that's the only thing that people are interested in. And so she has to. But I feel like she's just using it to their benefit. And.

A (41:01)

And so the reason why I chose this story is because a lot of the times, like, you know, they are. I don't even know what tier of celebrity I would include them. And I often compare them to the Obamas because they're like political, like politicians. I don't know what. What they are, but they. I often find them doing things now that like people at their level should never do. And Larry made a TikTok, like a lip syncing TikTok with Stephen Colbert. Like he went on the Colbert show, which is kind of crazy. But they're just. That's what they do now. They're just like sort of regular celebrities.

B (41:28)

Yeah.

A (41:29)

So it's not like it's so crazy that he went on the Colbert show, but they did a lip sync. And I was like, it was not a song. It was like a clip from the Great British Bake Off.

B (41:38)

Oh, I love that show. Yeah.

A (41:39)

Yeah. And there's like a viral sound from. And so it's just two people talking a joke. And it's Stephen and Harry. And it's quite shocking because there's something really degrading.

B (41:47)

Times are tough. Yeah, times are tough for Prince Harry and Montecito. But I. But I also see a lot of blind items about how much they are.

A (41:55)

And they like on other people. Yes, I hear that too.

B (41:58)

And I overstate their welcome.

A (42:00)

Yeah.

B (42:00)

They always try to get on the plane. They Try to get on the boats, they try to stay in the guest.

A (42:04)

Houses in terms of like the LA neighborhoods. Explain to me Montecito, like.

B (42:08)

But Montecito is in Santa Barbara, so it's very far. It's like a four hour drive from Los Angeles.

A (42:13)

Is a fair comparison. Like the Hamptons almost.

B (42:16)

I don't know. Montecito and Santa Barbara, I feel like, have been having like a big moment. But it's not like people go for the week. I guess they do mostly live there.

A (42:23)

Or it's more like second homes live.

B (42:25)

There or they'll go and like visit for. Maybe go to the Rosewood or. I guess people do go, but it is far. It's not like the Hamptons. But also people in New York have a different type of, of just like gust for life that they'll drive for hours. In la, people like New York, everyone's down for everything. Like, they're down for the journey to get to the destination. In la, everyone's like, I'm just gonna stay home this weekend.

A (42:47)

So fun.

B (42:47)

It's very rare.

A (42:48)

Do you like living in New York?

B (42:49)

I love it.

A (42:49)

You do?

B (42:50)

Yes, I love it.

A (42:50)

You think you're here forever?

B (42:51)

I think so, yeah. I mean, for the. Definitely. Ooh, oops. You're fine for the near future at least. But it was so refreshing to come. And especially when I came, I was single. And so people like to do things here, which is. Which is very different than la. And I always say in la, I would maybe see my best friends, like at most like once every two weeks.

A (43:09)

Oh, wow.

B (43:10)

Here you see everyone, like four times a week. Four times a day even. Everyone's always doing stuff in la. Everything's so separate. But now, even when I go back to la, I'm like, eating dinner at home when you don't. When you're not used to, like, circuiting and doing a lot, every small thing seems like so much. And then you stop going out. Yeah.

A (43:26)

I think also in la, like, people have everything in their houses, right? Like, I don't need to go to the gym.

B (43:30)

I have a little gym is so house. Like, I actually went to LA a couple weeks ago when Bravicon was happening and had like a nice, like, hang with my friends. Like, I wanted to do cozy hangs. No one does cozy hangs in New York because you're like, why don't you come over and watch a movie? And then everyone's like, let's go to Cipriani. No one ever hangs in the house.

A (43:45)

No, they don't.

B (43:45)

So they're Like, I had a sound bath and we did. We ordered in goop, we watched movies, we had like cozy nights. It just felt like it was like kind of what I needed.

A (43:53)

After the wedding, do you think you'll stay in the city?

B (43:55)

Yes.

A (43:56)

Yeah.

B (43:56)

Yeah. I think we're city people.

A (43:57)

Is your husband from the city? City?

B (43:58)

He's from Long Island. He was born in Queens and then moved to Long island when he was younger.

A (44:02)

Real Tri State man.

B (44:03)

Since college, I think he's been in the city.

A (44:05)

So Harry went on Stephen Colbert. They made like. I heard he got booed by the audience because, like, he made a joke about Trump. And then they made this TikTok and like, honestly, can we watch it? Yeah, I think it was. It aired last night and like, nobody's talking about the interview. They're just talking about the Tick tock. Or at least I am, because to me, it's a recession indicator.

B (44:25)

Yes. I was going to say dark.

A (44:27)

Yes. Just when you think that there's something that they won't do. Because they really did leave. They did say for privacy, but I think we learned after that really wasn't a priority. It was just like getting away. But like every time they announced something like her doing a podcast. Two podcasts, like, I'm sorry, that's insane.

B (44:43)

Yeah.

A (44:44)

But at one point I had the same job as the Duchess. Like, it's insane.

B (44:46)

Yeah. But the podcast didn't get renewed. Right.

A (44:50)

So she had two do. She had a Spotify one called Archetypes that like stopped in the middle.

B (44:55)

Okay.

A (44:56)

And then like a couple of years later, she was like, I'm bringing it back. Females Confessions of a Female Founder.

B (45:01)

Okay.

A (45:01)

So which is like about women in business.

B (45:03)

Okay.

A (45:03)

And they did like four episodes on Zoom and then did not do a second season.

B (45:06)

That's interesting.

A (45:07)

No, no. Like her whole thing is like announcing big projects and. Stop it. Stop him too. Because he had three book deal and he only did one.

B (45:13)

I don't think he has that much more to say.

A (45:14)

I thought the same.

B (45:15)

I don't think it's. The lights are not, you know, that bright.

A (45:19)

Right. I'm so excited about this story because I dying to hear your take on everyone's new face from Steven Levine.

B (45:24)

Oh my God, Dr. Steven Levine.

A (45:26)

So apparently he was at Kris Jenner's birthday party and everyone wanted to talk to him. I heard he has like a four year waitlist and a face cost $250,000. Well, Kris Jenner's talking more openly about her face stuff and she says that her nose is probably the only real thing follow on her face.

B (45:39)

That's not true.

B (45:42)

She's saying, like, the remnants of her nose, I guess.

A (45:45)

So, Kris Jenner, what do you say?

B (45:47)

It looks like the nose has been worked on. It does, but maybe with the face, maybe it's filler.

A (45:53)

So on the new episode of Kardashians, she's spending time in Paris with Kim. So Kris then joked that her nose is probably the only thing on her face that's real. Reality star admitted to undergoing a facelift by Dr. Steven Levine ahead of her 70th birthday. And then in reply, Kim claims that her teeth are real. Amid the celebrity veneer craze, what's your thoughts on veneers?

B (46:09)

I've always wanted veneers and I get scared.

A (46:11)

Do you not have smiles? You have beautiful teeth.

B (46:14)

They could be a little bit veneers. It's just like, it's always, you know, I feel like always on. Here's the thing in la, what someone said to me, well, you're moving to New York now. You don't need veneers. It's different in la. Like, everyone has veneers and everyone is like, you know. But I just, I also, as much as. As vain as I am, I always, I'm very, like, practical and I'm like, a little scared. I always try to err on the side of caution. Like, with veneers, you don't know how they're gonna react. And if you shave down your teeth, there's no going back.

A (46:41)

Exactly. And what if, like, the trends change.

B (46:42)

And veneers aren't cool anymore and eat. Like, what if, like, I hear, like, if you have veneers, you can only chew a certain way sometimes. It doesn't align. You just don't know. It's just very risky. I like the look of veneers. I would love to just, you know, know for sure my teeth are going to be glowing and forever out like that. Forever. But it kind of scares me. Yeah, these gums.

A (47:00)

Jackie's always saying, like, we will never be truly like successful celebrities because we have our real teeth.

B (47:04)

That's. No, I always. You can tell someone's commitment to fame if they get veneers. There's. So there. There are indicators of who really is going to do everything to make it. And it's the veneer girls.

A (47:16)

And some people, like, have good veneers. Some, yes, I would say overwhelmingly, I can tell pretty much every person who has veneers. I can tell. And they're huge. And it becomes their whole Mouth. I mean, Miley. I feel like Miley's teeth are a cautionary tale.

B (47:28)

I know they're.

A (47:29)

They pop out of her mouth and everyone talks about. It's like the first thing they say about her. And she's like a beautiful young woman, I feel like.

B (47:33)

But she always had a little, like, I don't know if she.

A (47:35)

She had a snaggle tooth on Hannah Montana.

B (47:37)

I felt like she's always wearing, like, a flipper.

A (47:39)

Yes, she definitely. I was very John, but I. Yeah. I don't know, like, who to blame for the veneer craze, but I do feel like it's really gone too far.

B (47:46)

But I think now we all live in what looks good in a picture. Everyone's getting their bodies to what looks good in a picture. But what looks good in a picture always looks so intense in real life.

A (47:55)

What do you think of Dr. Steven Levine, like, in his work? Lindsay Lohan?

B (47:57)

You know what? I am so happy that he's young. So by the time we need facelifts, he is still going to be in the prime. Prime of his game. He's not going to be, like, 80 years old.

A (48:06)

I love that.

B (48:06)

I know. So I'm dying to meet him.

A (48:10)

Pro facelift. Like, what's your.

B (48:12)

Why not? But I also, I hear that also facelifts are. Before the wedding, I went to, like, every doctor that you like, Dr. Diamond, doctor, like, all over the world was like, do I need a facelift? Like, and they all did the little test thing and they did a facelift. They said I would get a 10.

B (48:26)

Increase of whatever my aesthetic. Yeah, 10, as they said, is not enough. Like, they want that number to get to 30, 40, then we can talk. So they said maybe in a couple years or whatever. But I want. I was like, well, do I need to do before the wedding? I was thinking upper bluff. I was thinking facelift. I was thinking, I almost got a lip lift. It's also funny because when I'm in la, I'm like, I'm going to get a lip lift. And I leave. And I'm like, nope, I'm not going to do it.

A (48:46)

So I actually. I did a lip lift.

B (48:48)

You did?

A (48:50)

Like, is it a lip.

B (48:52)

Lip.

A (48:52)

Lip flip.

B (48:53)

Oh, lip flip. Boto.

A (48:54)

Which is like, oh, okay. What's a lip lift?

B (48:57)

Oh, that's when they literally cut it and they sew it and it goes.

A (49:00)

Like, oh, you know what? Sometimes I see people whose, like, noses and, like, mustaches are, like, connected.

B (49:04)

The problem is, is you can. There's always a scar yeah. There's always a scar. And if you already have a nose job or whatever scars on your face and it's okay, but, like, to kind of put a scar right here is kind of not good.

A (49:14)

What doctor? Because I feel like there's always, like, a doctor of the moment, like Dr. Orian. Remember, like, when the Kardashians were obsessed with him.

B (49:20)

Yes.

A (49:20)

And Dr. Steven Levine is the doctor.

B (49:22)

He's a. But you have to go to different doctors or different things, so.

A (49:25)

Right. So Kylie also posted her doctor for her boobs. Who. I forget who it was. I think it started with an M. I don't remember. Somebody was like, kylie, please let us know what you did to your boobs. They look amazing. And she was like, here's what I asked for.

B (49:36)

Here's what I went to. Under the. Under the muscle.

A (49:37)

Right under the muscle.

B (49:38)

Yes.

A (49:39)

They are embracing this, like, new era of transparency because I think for so many years they've gotten really criticized about, like, the beauty standard and what they're doing for women and just to be open about it. And they've decided like a year ago that they're going to start talking about it, which I love.

B (49:52)

Yes.

A (49:53)

But I don't require it. You know, like, if you want to share with me, great. If not, how you look has.

B (49:58)

No, because I also feel like a lot of people, they're very open about it personally amongst friends, but publicly, you can't really go on a red carpet and say, I did this and this and this. But you're open with your. You know. Yeah.

A (50:08)

So I guess what Kris Jenner is saying is, like, she's been nipped and tucked in every way. They did like, this Tik Tok Live last night. Which recession indicator. The Kardashians doing a TikTok live.

B (50:16)

When I saw the clip of Kim being like, oh, and you can buy this four pack for 15 years, I was like, what? How much is she getting? Is she getting equity and TikTok?

A (50:23)

And then I was scrolling TikTok. Well, no, TikTok streaming is just huge right now.

B (50:27)

Yeah.

A (50:27)

Then I was scrolling TikTok last night and it came up for me and Chloe was on it. And let me tell you, I was fucking cackling. She was being so funny. I was actually really enjoying it.

B (50:34)

She did a live or she was like, selling something.

A (50:36)

It was like a live. It was like a qvc.

B (50:38)

Okay.

A (50:39)

So Kim was there, Chloe was there, Chris was there, Kyle was there, Kyle was there. Kathy Hilton stopped by. Nick from Love island was there. Like, it was just Insane. But I actually watched it. Snoop Dogg. Yes. I watched it, and I actually really enjoyed it.

B (50:51)

Really?

A (50:52)

It was funny. And then they started selling, and I was like, out.

B (50:54)

Yeah.

A (50:55)

Because I do wear a ton of stuff. Skims, But I just buy them on the website.

B (50:58)

Yeah.

A (51:00)

Where was I going with this? Oh, her nose. So she says that her nose is, like, the only thing on her face that isn't touched. And I just feel like, why would that be the case? I feel like the nose job is, like, kind of a gateway drug to more plastic surgery.

B (51:10)

I feel like that I'm just gonna. I feel like that nose has been touched.

A (51:13)

Yeah. Or maybe just like, it's a mirage because everything else has been.

B (51:17)

Or maybe it's, like, the most untouched. Like, there is still some, like I said, remnants of the old nose there.

A (51:22)

It's also just interesting that they're, like, opening up so much and they really will not tell us about their asses.

B (51:28)

That's, like, the one thing they'll never admit to that is true. They'll talk about everything but that.

A (51:33)

And it's like, girl, we know.

B (51:35)

But I'm. I'm all for a facelift, but they also say, like, I went to a doctor in L. A And they said, you know, there's a certain age. There's a certain age to where filler and botox works for you.

A (51:45)

Okay.

B (51:46)

Because it's, like, heavy. But once you get to a certain age, you can't do the filler anymore. You just have to lift up. It's not about filling out. It's about lifting up.

A (51:54)

Right.

B (51:54)

Like, you can't fill out out skin that's going down. So, you know, But I mean, now with technology, now we're gonna all look amazing until we're, what city?

A (52:03)

Because you travel a lot. What city do you think is the best? Like, beauty? Do you do any Korean beauty? Like, where do you go?

B (52:08)

I did go to Seoul. But you have to. When you go to a doctor, it's important that you have the same aesthetic as they do. I say that about every doctor. Like, when I tell friends, like, where they should go do this and that, you have to. You have to have the same vision. Because what if you think looks good on you is different than what they want to do to you? That's not good. So I. When I went to Korea, it was actually very interesting. So they asked me. The first thing that this doctor asked me was, do you want to look youthful or do you want to look snatched? So it's two different things. So in Korea, if you notice, everyone's, like, soft and round.

A (52:34)

Yes.

B (52:35)

Like, like, even the tiny, tiny girls. It's not chiseled.

A (52:38)

Right.

B (52:39)

So it's like one or the other.

A (52:40)

But it's different beauty standards, too.

B (52:42)

There. Everything's a little bit rounder and fuller. So sometimes it's like a little. I didn't do the salmon sperm facial because I was scared because it hurt too much, but I did do some, like, little, like, collagen drops.

A (52:52)

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B (58:53)

I don't hate. I'm just. It's. She's not my tea.

A (58:55)

Okay, well. And what do you make of her relationship?

B (58:58)

I think it's cute. I think it's nice that she found love. And I think it's good for him. I think it's good for their brands. And they think, you know, totally. You're a big swifty.

A (59:06)

I am a big swifty and I'm a big fan of this relationship. So anytime they give us, like, a drop of detail, like, I have to talk about it.

B (59:12)

They're always out in New York.

A (59:13)

They are. Oh, and it's such a great way to like, find out, like, what's cool because they're always. They go to Shamar. Go. Yes. What do you think is, like, the spa right now?

B (59:20)

Once I was at Shea Margone, we. Whenever we go, remember? So whenever we go, we, like, give Our friends tours. One night we're like trying to open to give our friend a tour. And the security came was like, you can't go in there. And I was like, like, why? Like, we always go in there. Like, not tonight. And I was like, it's so weird because it's a members club. You should have access to everything else. It's a private event. And then when we left, we saw the Swifties outside with like, you know, things, photos and stuff. And we're like, oh my God, it was Taylor Swift and stuff.

A (59:43)

That's very cool.

B (59:44)

But it's very interesting because I would think that if I was them and I was going to a members club, then I would like want to be like out with everyone. Because members club is already pre edited. Like, if you want to really just be alone, then why not just stay home?

A (59:54)

Yeah, people, that's a good point.

B (59:57)

Like, I feel like a members club should be a safe space to go. Like, why go to a members club and block off air? You could just go to any restaurant and block it.

A (60:03)

And they pretty much exclusively, when they're in New York, go to members clubs. They were recently at Zero Bond, Casa Cipriani. That's a good point.

B (60:09)

They sometimes go to that place. What's it called? Mizuna. Wait, it's in. It's a meat packing. Almost like meso. It's like close to the ganzavore. I forget what it's called.

A (60:18)

I'm a grandma. I don't leave the house anymore. So I don't know.

B (60:20)

He is a. It's like an invitation investor in that restaurant.

A (60:23)

Oh, very cool. Well, in addition to being a football player. Yes.

B (60:27)

So he had a show on E before, of course.

A (60:29)

Oh, wait.

B (60:30)

Chasing love.

A (60:31)

Catching Kelsey.

B (60:32)

Catching Kelsey.

A (60:33)

What is the timeline? Were you on the air at E at the same time as him?

B (60:36)

Yes, because I remember going in and like the people that the executive have worked at E, they were like, oh my God, he's like so cute in real life. Like, they were like gushing over him. So charming, so cute. So. Because we're like, who's this guy?

A (60:47)

He was a real nobody. And it was like such a random show at the time because it wasn't like Tom Brady. It was crazy.

B (60:53)

He got that show at that time.

A (60:54)

No, I feel like they literally just asked a football player and he just showed up like, yeah, he was a good player. He wasn't famous. He wasn't like Tommy agent.

B (61:03)

Or maybe he always wanted a little extracurricular something.

A (61:06)

Yes, he's always Had a big personality.

B (61:07)

Yeah.

A (61:08)

That show is so good.

B (61:09)

I didn't watch it, but they were all.

A (61:11)

Recently we watched a couple episodes. It's so good. And the brother's on it. Jason.

B (61:16)

Oh, really? Yeah.

A (61:17)

Well, so Travis Kelce has shared that he asked the Kansas City Chiefs to not play Taylor Swift songs at the games that she is at.

B (61:28)

Okay. And I think it's a shy girly.

A (61:30)

Yeah. I think it's also just, like, awkward.

B (61:32)

Yeah.

A (61:33)

He's saying that he's, like. It's been attributing to him being, like, a real team player and, like, not wanting to make it about him. And it's about the team. I feel like it's also know, like, toxic NFL fans, like, would boo if, like, Shake it Off came on. But her music is very, like, yeah, family friendly. I feel like it does get played at those stadiums.

B (61:48)

Like, they should naturally play it if, like, maybe not all the time. Maybe not panda her, but if it's already on the playlist going out of your way.

A (61:56)

So do you listen to any Taylor Swift?

B (61:58)

If it happens to come on. But I don't, like, search it.

A (62:00)

What do you listen to? Who's your number one Spotify wrapped?

B (62:03)

I don't even look. I'm a weirdo. Like, I now that I don't drive, I don't listen to music.

A (62:06)

Oh, that's so true.

B (62:07)

I used to just listen to music in the car. I don't even know. I don't even think I've downloaded anything on Spotify. I'll, like, look up little podcasts here and there.

A (62:14)

I was gonna say, do you listen to any podcast?

B (62:15)

I listen to you and Tinks, of course.

A (62:17)

Such good taste.

B (62:19)

That's all I have time for in my agenda. The top two girlies love that. But yeah, really, that's it.

A (62:25)

Now, was Justin. Because Justin was here yesterday, and I know you and Justin are really good friends. Was Justin at all on Rich?

B (62:32)

He was a producer.

A (62:33)

Oh, you're kidding.

B (62:34)

I met Justin. I remember the text Farrah texted me when we were like, 24 years old and was like, oh, my God, my mom has this cute new assistant. He's so fun. Like, come over. His name's Justin. I want you to meet him. Like, we're so excited for this assistant. And he was a ladysitter. And then we all met. And then as time went on, he was just our friend. And then we had a position on Rich Kids as a talent producer. And he's very, very good with talent. Getting us on time, getting them talking us down when we need to. He's our friend. So funny. He was a talent producer for us, and then he had. And then one day he was like at E. And then all of a sudden he's like on E. News and then he's doing red carpet and he's like, you know.

A (63:12)

But he's real hustler.

B (63:13)

Yes, he's a real hustler who's writing a book. You know, he just has a lot of talents. He's very charismatic and he really is like, like, it's really like, you know, if you are that type of person and you're like, put that out in the universe, you really can achieve and get to wherever you want. Now he's literally talking to Oprah on the Today show.

A (63:30)

Said that Justin is her choice to replace her.

B (63:33)

I'm seeing him after this.

A (63:34)

I know he was here yesterday. He told me. I love him. That whole generation of rich kids and how you all went on to really just grow up so nicely. It's been a real treasure to watch.

B (63:46)

We're not the Disney kids. No, right.

A (63:49)

Like, spun out or went. Everybody, like, still is fabulous and doing their own thing and. Yeah, there's no, like, tragedy there. Knock wood. You know?

B (63:57)

Right.

A (63:58)

Okay. And now tell me what you're watching on, like, what TV shows are you obsessed with right now?

B (64:02)

So right now we've been watching the Beast in Me. Have you watched Claire Danes?

A (64:06)

I haven't.

B (64:06)

I like these little thriller y type shows.

A (64:08)

Do you read books like I used to.

B (64:10)

I used to before the wedding. I did. And then when wedding came up, I was just so busy. There was no time. And I haven't gotten back into it. Yeah.

A (64:16)

Because that show looks like one of those classic, like, thriller. Psychological thriller books.

B (64:20)

Yes. And you like all the trains.

A (64:21)

Yes, I love.

B (64:22)

I like the, like, limited series, I think, because I think sometimes when it gets to season two, season three, Brandon loves sci fi, which is like, no, I can't. I don't. I can't. And he loves it so much, he wants me to go to these movies with him. And we've been watching Pluribus, which is kind of okay for sci fi. It's like, do you know what Pluribus is?

A (64:41)

And it's.

B (64:41)

Am I even saying it right?

A (64:43)

Claribus.

B (64:44)

I was just laughing at her reaction. The Sci Fi 3 body problems, like, all these sci fi things. I'm really excited to watch Kimora back in the fabling.

A (64:52)

Okay. So glad that she is back on.

B (64:54)

Tv because Kimora was my everything. Really is my everything. Being a sassy Chinese girl living in the usa, I was like, this is my icon.

A (65:02)

Oh my God. When you did you on Rich kids go take a trip to China?

B (65:06)

Yes.

A (65:07)

And you went to the mall?

B (65:08)

Yes.

A (65:08)

Oh my God. That was.

B (65:09)

And we turned on the lights.

A (65:11)

Did you ever meet people in China who were like, familiar with the show? It.

B (65:15)

He didn't stream in China, so E is like usually just within the US and then like. But it did air in like the uk, France and stuff like that, but not in China.

A (65:24)

So when you were just like rolling through this Chinese mall with a big.

B (65:27)

Camera crew, they were just like, oh, like chairman's daughter's filming a show, right?

A (65:31)

Chairman's daughter, yeah.

B (65:32)

It was just like chairman's daughter doing something.

A (65:34)

What do you make of Becca Bloom?

B (65:36)

I like Becca. You do we know each. Oh, we've met once.

A (65:38)

Or like from like the Chinese community or from like the Instagram?

B (65:42)

No, no, no. Our parents don't know each other, but I met her at Oscar de la Renta. They had at the, at the Save Venice gala. We sat next to each other. So she's very sweet.

A (65:52)

Yeah. Was she with her man or.

B (65:53)

Her man was not there. He was like at the Cocktail, but then took a call and wasn't at the dinner.

A (65:58)

So it was a call.

B (65:58)

Yeah, there's. There's always a call. He was on a call to Amazon. She said. But she also in person though, she's a little bit more chill. Like, I remember she said bra, and I was like, oh, she said what, bruh? Like, like, not like, you know what I mean?

A (66:10)

That's crazy.

B (66:10)

Like she said, cuz she's from. She's from NorCal, so.

A (66:16)

Yeah, that's shocking.

B (66:17)

Yes.

A (66:18)

It's the most shocking thing you said here today that she says bra.

B (66:20)

I was kind of shocked too. And she was like, damn. Like, it was like she was. But she was like, cool, you know, like, she's chill.

A (66:25)

What does your husband do for a living?

B (66:26)

He's an attorney.

A (66:28)

Oh, okay. Attorney at law. Wayne Yankovic.

B (66:32)

Yankowitz Law Firm.

A (66:33)

Yankowitz Law Firm. Okay. What kind of law?

B (66:35)

Personal injury, A mass tort.

A (66:37)

So is he like kind of a real stickler about following the law?

B (66:39)

Oh, yeah.

A (66:40)

Like the speed limit.

B (66:40)

Yeah. Oh my God. He goes under this. I always joke, I always joke with him about like, that he's going to get a ticket for going under so slow, so, so, so safe. But he gets all these. He sees so many terrible cases come through because people are, you know, speeding. And so he's very. By the law.

A (66:55)

I feel that. What about, like, jaywalking? Will he jaywalking?

B (66:57)

No, he. He just always wants everyone to be safe. So he's like the dad. When we're all walking, he's like, blocking traffic. Like, you know the man. The men that walk on the side of the traffic.

A (67:07)

The curb. Yeah.

B (67:07)

Yes.

A (67:08)

I love that.

B (67:08)

He's very sweet. I'm.

A (67:10)

I've loved chatting with you. You are just a doll. Hopefully this is not your last time on the toes. No, I would.

B (67:16)

I'm just around the corner. I. I know.

A (67:18)

I feel like I'm gonna take it well. I've been in, like, a. Like a cave for a year.

B (67:21)

Yeah.

A (67:22)

But I'm starting to emerge. Like, I'm actually going out next weekend.

B (67:24)

Yeah. So I run into your husband sometimes.

A (67:29)

We should do dinner. But my husband is so social.

A (67:33)

Does it. Well, I haven't played in a little.

B (67:35)

While, but Ben and I love pickleball. We. We're actually members of members pickleball club.

A (67:39)

Just pickleball?

B (67:40)

Yes. There's no tennis. They don't want to mix it. It's just pickleball.

A (67:43)

What about Paddle Padell?

B (67:44)

No. Padel.

A (67:45)

Oh, wow. In the city.

B (67:46)

It's in the city. It's in Hell's Kitchen. It's at the Glass House.

A (67:49)

Okay.

B (67:49)

And so the. Actually, the owners of the Glass House are big pickleball players, and they, like, don't like that. It's like pickleball and tennis. So they just were like, we're gonna open just a pickleball club on.

A (67:58)

So funny.

B (67:58)

We'll go one day.

A (67:59)

I would love that.

B (68:00)

Fun.

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A (68:20)

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