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Good morning, girlies.
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It's the Toast. It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host.
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It's your favorite show, the best five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the Toast.
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They sound amazing.
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Welcome back to the Toast and happy Wednesday. It is hump day. Don't forget to tell someone you love. And speaking of somebody I love is juggling for life. Even though I'm inclined.
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Even though you don't love me, I'm
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inclined not to love you because I need to tell the class how you almost set me up yesterday with that book thing.
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Oh, my God. I didn't. It wasn't a setup. It was in earnest. You guys saw the whole thing.
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I went to text my sexy photo of me and my book to the bookstore, and I didn't have the book thing with me, so I needed the phone number. So I just googled it, and they have a text service. Not so you can send them content. They buy books. It's like. It's like a strand, you know, they buy used books and so you, like, send them what you have and how much or whatever. Imagine if, thank God, I didn't send them, like, my sexy photo shoot of me and my book.
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I had no clue. Obviously, you saw me read it. You think in that moment, like, split second, I decided to pray.
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People pointed out in the comments that it says in big letters, they could see it on the camera. We buy books.
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But, like, that could have been separate from text us a photo of your book.
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I didn't do it.
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Thankfully, two things could be true. They can buy books and also want sex content for their Instagram.
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Yeah.
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Oh, I wish you would send it.
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I'm so glad I didn't. Like, I would have been. Imagine you're like the person who runs the inventory. Someone sends them, like, a random photo of them, like.
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And the worst part is you're not even selling the book. You just bought it from them.
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Correct. No, no, I can't help these people at all.
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But that could be good for your cardboard self if you finish it and sell it back.
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Yeah. Because, you know, I don't know my Kindle, and it's not so much cardboard when it comes to books. I don't mind buying a book. What do you do with it after? I thought it's part.
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That's part of this cardboard Mental. A cardboard and sweeping.
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Yeah. Because I should say cardboard is not always financially motivated.
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No, no, no.
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It's about nice things. You've gotten a bit of a reputation.
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It's about minimalism. Like, it's about having, like, less stuff. Less. It. It is also the sweeper mentality. It's not just about financials. I know that, but.
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No, it's largely driven by finance.
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Of course, financials are a part of. But it's just about stuff.
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Like that guy from Extreme Cheap States
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who is the cardboard. He's the cardboard man. That's why we call you Cardboard Koji. It wasn't that he didn't have money.
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Well, that's the thing with the extreme cheapskates. It's never a real financial situation. That's kind of like the drama on Tick Tock right now with Bradley on a budget.
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You know, it was like, why buy a bed if I could sleep on this piece of cardboard?
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Correct. Like, why would I buy a new pillow when the one I got free in college 20 years ago is still standing? Still a pillow. That's what's going on with Bradley on a budget. I don't know if, you know, people started following him for, like, budget hacks and, like, it very quickly evolved. He's also, like, an extremely successful content creator now, so he doesn't, like, need to budget as much as he maybe once did, but he just actually, like, lives in squalor and lives in filth and, like, hasn't changed his toothbrush in 10 years. And his pillow is disgusting. And some people have really taken umbrage with Bradley's lifestyle because it's not really. People think it's more so, like, expressing some sort of trauma because, like, the way he lives is just really not normal. And he also shares a lot, like, here's how much I made this week. And he has, like, a million side gigs, like dog watches and cleans houses, and also does content. He does only fans. He makes like 500 grand a year.
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He does only fans. Yeah.
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He's one thing about Bradley, like, he is an onion with the toothbrush. No, I think with, like, undies. Like, he does, like, sexy content with old undies.
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Because he's not.
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I mean, I haven't purchased.
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He's not gonna buy fresh.
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I don't know. It's. It is a business expense.
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No, but it's not about the expense. It's not about the money. It's about the. The waste, the mentality.
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Yeah, yeah. So if I ever get to that
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level, maybe he does like cardboard sexy content.
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I should sign up. Or if he's not doing that, maybe I should be the creator. I wish to see on only guys. Yeah.
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How you can, like, upcycle and be sexy.
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Be sustainable, financially conscious and sexy.
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Sustainable and sexy.
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Join me@onlyfans.org Turdy.
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Turdy.
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Yesterday I went to Home Goods after the show, and I just, like, how amazing. Yeah. It was. I just, like, I needed a pillow, and I just, like, busied about, and I realized, like, I'm very much living my suburban dream here. Like, because yesterday I just, like, went to work, went to home goods, went back to my home, like, busied around the home, and I just.
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Where you brought the goods from?
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Yeah, from the home goods. And I just feel like I'm very much. I didn't even realize it. Like, this is what my life would be like if I lived in the suburbs. Now that we're settled into swirly summer, we're not, like, you know, raging every day. It's just like, life in the suburbs,
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just going about our business. How do you like suburban life?
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It's a little slow.
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Okay.
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But I happen to enjoy this slow. Like, I'm. I'm down for slow right now, actually. Sometimes I can't even keep up with the fastness of, you know, that bright lights, big city I live in.
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Yeah.
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So I am enjoying it.
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It's also good that you're not in the city.
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Yes.
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Between the planes.
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But it's also, like, this is not typical suburban living because, like, I'm living on a compound with my whole family. Like.
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Yeah.
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It would be, I think, a little more boring.
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Even more boring without me, you're saying,
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and, like, your whole family. And, like, we have so many activities and, like, memories.
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Loud and, like.
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Yeah. And, like, I can't even take a nap because everybody's, like, being loud.
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Yeah. Which is beautiful.
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Of course. Of course.
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The beauty and the chaos.
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Of course. Of course. So it's not, like, true, but it's a small taste. Yeah.
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And you're not a suburban girl. You're a city slicker.
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I am a city slicker. Although the more. The more I live, the more I understand, like, being drawn to the bucolic nature of a yard.
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Yeah.
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I told you. Ben and I went to our friend's house. We, like, just moved to Scarsdale. They're, like, the first adults in our crew to, like, leave and. And go to this. The outer burbs. And we left with, like, a yearning. Ben more so than me. Ben's never lived.
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And Ben is such a city kid. He.
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It was more so like, the grill and the patio, which I totally get.
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I mean, everyone has something, right?
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Right. Sometimes it's a Pool that draws you. Sometimes it's land. Ben is drawn by, like, the barbecue and the patio.
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The barbecue and.
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Yeah. I wonder if he's, like, having any more thoughts while we're. While we're here.
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We have a barbecue.
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We do. And we've used it twice.
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Yeah, we have.
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Yeah. So what draws you cleaning?
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What draws you home goods?
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What draws me to suburban life? Let me.
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Like, what's your favorite part?
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Big fish, small pond. It's like, oh, that girl. There's an influencer who lives here. Whereas, like, if I'm just in the city, I'm like, one of a hundred podcasters, you know?
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Yeah.
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But if I have, I'm like the podcaster of my small town.
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Yeah.
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It's just, like, a lot of attention and things like that.
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Yeah. Everyone's like, turdy's here.
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Yeah. Like, that's the girl. And then like, when I'm like, at the local grocer. Are you the girl with no job? Yeah, that's not the one. I think that's what I find attractive.
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I was actually thinking about the no jobs today.
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In what sense?
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I don't know. I was just, like, thinking about, like, how I'm always like, no job. No job. Are you? I'm down with no job.
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I mean, you are a no job, so I don't know why you're talking about, like, you're not in it.
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I'm like, dad, like, when I want you to change your handle.
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Oh, that's what you're thinking about.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I'm not.
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Which I've totally, like, moved on from. And I feel like any. I was actually wondering, like, what a branding expert would say, and I feel
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like, get one on the pod.
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We should. I feel like they would say to keep it. Yeah.
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I'm not even totally opposed to swapping it. I just think I'm giving up a lot and I'm not gonna do that. But there are so many people when I think of, like, Ariel, Charn. It's like she slays. And we do still call her something.
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Navy.
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The blonde salad. Kiara frog. And I feel like that's how you really become like, a celeb. Like your. Your name. Although I feel like everybody knows my name. Dirty.
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Yeah.
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And I wouldn't even know. Not like I have a good backup. Like, because I'm not going to go by Claudia Ash.
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Right.
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I would have to go by Turdy Lou Global or something, you know? And then it's like I'm getting another stupid nickname, so I might as well just Stick with the one I have.
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Do not do another stupid nickname. That was not the point of this exercise. It would be Claudia Ashray.
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No. Okay, like, I love my name. Obviously it's my name, but, like, yuck, okay, Like, I'm just a girl with a name. Girl with a name.
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Girl with a name.
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No, I'm. I'm good with where I'm at.
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No, no. And I've. I've completely made peace within. And it's probably for the best.
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Like, and not to be, like, so drama, but, like, it does feel nice to have, like, a public Persona. And like, my friends know me as Claudia, you know?
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Yeah, they. Well, also, like, Turdy is your public person.
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Right? The artist known as Turdy.
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I'm cracking up. Someone said in the comments yesterday. Sorry, wait, why?
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For cutting you off. Which I just did.
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Which I get comments like that more. Yes.
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It must have been bad yesterday. Which is so funny because before the show started, I was so, so tired that I was like, you know what? Just let Jackie do it today. Like, some days you're in, some days you're out. Meanwhile, this toast just, like, sparks something in you. When these lights go on, no matter what you're feeling, you just, like, figure it out. But I was getting a lot of hate, and I see the hate, and you guys are probably right. I will do my best. And my best is probably not good enough.
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I saw a comment, like, accusing us of, like, concealing, like, like, of having made, like, a conscious decision to, like, not share our personal lives, like, go the Alex Cooper route. Because I guess, like, because we're together,
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we have, like, a lot of catching up to you.
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Yeah. We don't, like, say things to each other that have already been said. But, like, they want to know what we had for dinner they wanted, like, they want more. Pffb. So, like.
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Okay, sorry.
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And I just want you guys to
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know effort has been made.
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No conscious effort has made it. Share more of the fact that I can't tell you what I. I wouldn't tell you what I had for dinner because we had it together, but maybe we need to, like, storytell to the third person storytel. And we've never really done that before. But, like, I'm down. We had pizza last night. It was really good.
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Oh, I'm so glad you liked it because, like, I sort of took charge
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with we ordered, which we haven't done since we've been here. I'm not really into, like, deliver.
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We also haven't really talked about the fact that fork of July has been, like, a little bit different this year because actually, this studio that we rent also has a kitchen. So, I mean, dream come true. So Ben goes once a week, films all of his videos.
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I think he told us that when he subbed for you.
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Oh, okay. Well, it's been really good for our work. Life balance. And I think that in past years, we've sat here and talked about Fork of July ad nauseam, but it really hasn't been that big of an imposition this year.
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Not at all.
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Except on the days that he films, like, we don't get dinner because Ben's gone all day long, or sometimes he'll come home with the food that he. But he just started filming Salad Week, so I told him to just, you know, give it out to the people at the studio. Nobody needs salads.
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Sounds amazing.
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So I took charge and I ordered pizza, which everyone in the house is, like, not d. Ordering it in the Hamptons is, like, first of all, not to be cardboard. It's so expensive. Like, it's insane. There's not a ton of options, and it's just, like. It's not amazing.
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No.
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So this was the first time we ordered in, but, like, we needed food. We had no meat defrosted. Ben was gone. And you know what? I became the leader that I wish to see in the world. I just. I didn't even ask people what they wanted. I just. Me and Ben had lunch at this place in Sag harbor last week when I got my book shopping local, also eating local, and they were on Uber Eats. I was like, you know what? I've eaten it. I know that it's good. I know what we ate, and I'll just get it for everyone. And I didn't realize, like, the portions were really small. I got, like, so nervous that I wasn't ordering enough food for everyone. Thankfully, there, like, was extra, barely.
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But do you know my.
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It's hard to be the person who's, like, in charge of ordering for a big group.
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Do you know? My theory on ordering in is, like, it's a scarcity mentality. Yes. People will like the food you ordered more if there's not a lot of it. When you order so much food, it just all looks like slop. There's so much, like, extra, and, like, it just looks. Looks like, oh, we hated it because there was so much extra. But when there's a finite amount, like, people really appreciate the little that they get. And, like, this scarcity makes everyone like it more, even though we're maybe a Little hungry. It will go over better. I've noticed that, like, anytime I order for the family, when I order, like, heaps of food, we just have, like, piles of slop, and it just doesn't look enticing. And when I order less, everyone's like, oh, I really wanted some of that.
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Yeah. Okay. Well, then I slayed because we had a good amount. We had a good amount. And, like, everyone was fed and. But it was a lot of pressure. Like, as I saw the driver approaching, I was just like, I know I didn't order enough food. These fat bitches are going to come for my neck. But you know what? Nobody wants to be either.
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No scarcity when you're ordering in. Scarcity mentality. Not if you're, like, host people, but when you're ordering, like, for your family, for your hungry family, flip it on them.
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Okay, well, I did. And everybody liked my. Even though, like, not having general. I said, like, I went to bed, like, hungry, you know, even though we had dinner. But, like, like, you said, scarcity.
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Scar. I did say so.
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I woke up this morning and I was like, ben, what are we having for dinner? Defrost the chicken we're having. We're now calling them Chinese chicken nuggets because the kid love them, the kids love them.
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But it is chicken rocks, and he is forking in our kitchen today.
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What?
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Yeah, because. And he's fine. He said, like, he doesn't have enough time in the studio kitchen to do seven recipes. So, like, he had a couple more. He needs to do so. But they pair nicely with chicken rocks. Okay, so it's like an egg roll salad. Yum. And I think fried rice or something. An Asian salad, which we'll have with our chicken rocks. So I think tonight. Tonight we'll be eating well.
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Good. I get it. You guys can. I've been getting so many comments like, that I actually look, like, sickly.
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I. I haven't been getting comments, but I do look sickly because my lipstick is, like, not on the show anymore.
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No, sorry, I meant, like, malnourished. Like, a lot of people are, like, turdy is so skinny.
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Yeah.
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This is what people are saying.
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And I'm just going to be applying lipstick the whole show. I can't even watch these clips. Where's my lipstick?
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There's nothing worse. And we are wearing lipstick, but the lighting in here, like, doesn't really complement our lips. But in real life or, like, there's something deeply troubling about a woman not wearing lipstick. Not to be, like, a toxic And
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a face of makeup. Yeah.
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Oh, you can be barefacey, whatever. But, like, if you're wearing makeup, you need something on your lips. You actually look terminally ill if you don't.
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So just remind me if you see me slipping.
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Yeah, I have mine here, too.
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And then I didn't make any more headway. And off campus, even though I've sort of, like, made peace with what happened, and people were saying, like, it's possible if you pause the show and don't turn your TV off, that it just, like, sort of plays in the background and it finished itself. Which I think you guys, like, for the delusion that, like, probably happened, I'm gonna, like, just go with that.
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I. I would think it's actually safe to say that that's what happened.
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Yeah. But last night, I just, like, wasn't feeling well. I, like, took a bunch of medicine to, like, work itself overnight, and I think it did. Like, I had a headache. My eye was itching, My stomach hurt, so I just, like, took a bunch. I took Advil. Took a Zyrtec.
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You're not supposed to take Advil for your stomach. Just like.
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No, no, Advil for my head, Zyrtec for my eye itching. And then I took magnesium to sort of, like, settle everything, you know, Just sort of top me off a thousand percent.
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And it's cocktail.
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Yeah. And then it worked itself.
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While. I love popping pills. Love popping pills. When was ibuprofen invented, like, in a way that was easily accessible to people?
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Definitely. Like the. The 60s.
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You're kidding.
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I don't know. I'm out. I'm going to take out the. Definitely.
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I'm watching Mad Men, which is what, 50s, 50, 60s?
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Yeah. Okay.
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And they take aspirin, like, when they're drinking alcohol.
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Okay. Aspirin is Advil.
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Okay. Yeah. Oh, my God. I just, like, I can't imagine a time without Advil. Yeah. I'm their number one cost.
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I don't know. But customer, we talk about it, like, also modern solutions for modern problems. Right.
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Like, they maybe didn't have as many headaches back in the day because there wasn't so many, you know, toxins in
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the air, toxins in the air, toxins in the food, toxins in the drink, toxins.
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But I think they still got headaches. Like, the women would have to go to their room.
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Yeah, for sure. Also reading Abigail Adams book. Like, when they. When, like the Tea party. What's it called? The Boston Tea Party. You know, how they. The taxes and. Because they were putting, like, so Many taxes on their tea, that the women couldn't drink tea anymore. And it would be as if, like, we didn't have coffee anymore. So, like, she said she had a headache like, every day because she didn't have her tea. And that's actually when they started drinking coffee because they needed something, but they thought coffee was disgusting.
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And, like, obviously, I'm glad that we are equals with men. And obviously, like, when we weren't, that was bad. Of course. But there is something about how, like, women would just, like, it was very common. Like, you would need to be excused. Like, go to your room. You're feeling faint. Like, I'm one of those women. Like, I, I, I know it's unacceptable for, like, me to just, like, leave in the middle of the day to
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go rest in my room in confinement.
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Yeah. But, like, I feel that I like that, and I wish that that was my truth, you know?
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Yes.
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And it would be socially acceptable because now it's just like, oh, yeah, Turji, she never goes anywhere. She has to go lay down. It's like, yeah, I do.
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But only if you're an aristocrat. Like, was that possible? Yeah. Because the other women, they're head to work. They're like, you know, manning the fires. Can't let the fire. The laundry.
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Right. The children.
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The children, the animals, the home. They're watching the homestead. So I think only if you're, like, upper crust, could you just go to your chambers?
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Well, if we're, like, painting a picture, I obviously want to be upper crust. Like, if we get to choose, I'm choosing the crust.
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Okay. And then you can go relax in your chambers.
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My chambers being like, oh, where's Madame Claudette? Oh, she's relaxing in her chambers. Like, and I would always be, like, taking a tray. You know, in Downton Abbey, when they weren't feeling good, they, like, wouldn't show up for the big formal dinner. They would take a tray in their room. Like, I'd be taking trays three times a day.
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You could take trays now.
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Yeah. But it's not the same because then I'm just like, a slob who eats in bed. Like, you eat in your bed. Yeah, I do. All the time.
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Yeah.
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Every day.
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Every day.
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Multiple times a day.
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Well, that's really what's been going on with us. We haven't been holding back.
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No. I hope that everyone feels we've properly opened up and you all feel better knowing that, yes, I will be excused to my chambers.
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She will be. And that today, what's in store for us today. We haven't majed in a couple days. I feel like we're due for a
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maj. You guys let my majong table get wet and covered with bugs.
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I handled your majong table. It's beautiful. Everything's reset, right?
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We had to.
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And I learned along the way that you can wash the. Oh, my mahjong mats in the washing machine, which I didn't do.
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I think, like, I. I don't know if I ever, like, thought if I could, but I think I would have thought that.
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And when I took our new mat, I felt like that scene in the Grinch where, like, the Christmas tree burns down and they, like, bring out a new Christmas tree immediately. Do you know that scene?
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No. I gotta watch the Grinch. Oh, my God.
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So when the old mat had bugs and wet and I, like, unfurled a new mat, I just. I felt like I had a new Christmas tree. Speaking of the Grinch, on the box of the new unfurled mat, it did say machine washable.
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Oh.
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So, like, not even controversial. They're advertising it.
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When I was at Home Goods yesterday, they were shipping, displaying Halloween stuff. And I heard the lady behind the counter said, Christmas stuff comes out in two weeks.
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I saw Halloween stuff when we were there vlogging.
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Oh, my God.
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And it's destabilizing. It is.
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Dc, I'm all about, like, getting in early. Yes. Because I'm the type of person, like, Christmas starts September 1st for me. Like, let's go. It's July. Like, that's insane.
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I know. And it's like, I'm down to, like, look forward towards the end of summer, like, to. With fall on the horizon. But, like, I just started my summer. Don't talk to me about fall. And the thing is, I'm not. Not excited for fall, but, like, give it to me in August when it's like, summer's winding down.
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Yeah. No, we're still very much, like, in summer.
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Like, summer just started. What are you doing? Talking about fall. And I'm excited for fall. Like, I love fall.
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It's a garchie party fall.
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It's going to be a gargie party fall. I just know it. But, like, can I enjoy my gargie party summer for one minute?
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Yeah.
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And that was first week of July that we went to Home Goods.
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And then we're just, like, rushing our lives away because this is every year.
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Yeah.
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What if we just stopped Smell the roses.
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But marketers got a market.
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I know. And I get it. I get it. I get It. I'm watching Mad Men. I get it. I understand marketing.
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You know, everything's on a schedule.
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Yeah. I don't want to, like, rehash Mad Men because obviously it's, like, not a new show. But I just want to say, the way I hate that Peggy.
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I know.
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She's the worst part of the show. Yeah, I hate that Pete, too. They're perfect for each other. Like, truly.
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Yeah.
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I was just like, can't stand such a good show. I was being a Scientologist. Chloe Feynman leaving snl.
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I know. I saw, like, story worthy. I. I had it.
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I think she's a Scientologist. I think a lot of people think she's a Jew. Feynman.
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She's a Jew who believes in Scientology.
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She's a Scientologist who believes in L. Ron Hubbard.
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I saw that. And I didn't choose it as a story because, like, okay, she's leaving snl. Like, so she's leaving.
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Yeah, we'll see what happens. Like, being on SNL is just not a guarantee. Sometimes it is, sometimes it's not what it used to be. I feel like where if you left, like, you were automatically a star.
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I mean, so many things are not what they used to be.
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That's the truth.
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You know, nothing really is what it used to be.
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Chilling.
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But there's. What's the new.
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Well, let's dive in and find out.
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You want to dive into the stories?
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I do.
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Okay, without further ado to do, it is time for the Fast 5 stories that you do need to know.
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Oh, yes. And I love Amazon Music. I really, really do.
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You sure? How much do you love Amazon Music?
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Claudia? I was looking at my phone this morning and realized my home screen is actually embarrassing. I have a different app for everything. I'm listening to music in one place, podcasts in another, audiobook somewhere else. It's just too much.
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Same research. The kingdom. You do not have to live like that if you're constantly bouncing between apps just to find something to listen to. There's a better way. Amazon Music. I've been using Amazon Music Unlimited because it has all the podcasts and now audiobooks all in one app. It has made things so much easier. Very sweeper friendly mentality over at Amazon.
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You're the digital sweep.
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And speaking of audio books, I did finally start Project Hill Mary by Andy Weir.
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I'm so happy to hear that. It's so, so good. I just finished it. And there were multiple times where I'd get home and just sit in the driveway or maybe take an extra lap around the block because I cannot stop in the middle of the chapter. The narration is incredible. And you know how picky I am with audiobooks. Turdy. It's totally toast Certified.
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Thank you, Real Turt.
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You're welcome. I'm incredibly real. Much like Simon Van Campen.
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Yes, you are real. That's why those allegations would just. Just so unfair that we're.
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That we were allegations once again. Like, we just have to come on here and defend our character and beat the allegations. We're always beating allegations.
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Yeah. So that's just so out of nowhere and so uncalled for.
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Beyond.
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Our first story in the City aired its reunion part one last night.
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And a lot of drama. I feel like more drama from the reunion than I heard the whole season.
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Yeah. Amanda and west are making headlines because she was asked again about their relationship by Andy.
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Yeah. She was interrogated about a couple of things. One, that video of them spitting in each other's mouth. She did clarify that it was an olive.
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Does that make it better?
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I think it makes it worse.
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Like, I didn't think that it was actual spit.
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No. But I thought, yeah, like, maybe the photo just caught them at a weird angle or.
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But, like, I figured that she was like, bird mouth feeding him something, so. Okay, thanks. That to know it was an olive. That doesn't change anything.
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Andy was pressing her a lot about, like, the status of their relationship. They are monogamous. They do not say I love you. Because Andy was like, are you in love? And she was like, I don't know how to answer that. And someone's like, well, do you say I love you? And she was like, not really.
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And they're like, not really.
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And we're like, not so she was like, they say ily like Ellie.
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So immature. That's so immature. This is such a bad look for her. I know. Like, every time they sit down with her, it's like, this is the real man. And she's gonna be honest.
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She talked about how in the reunion that she was not her best self.
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Even this time she was like, she wished she showed up differently for the reunion. She naturally went into defense mode. And then like, okay, so you have another chance here. And you're still coming with this immature. You're. You're telling us that you say illy like nobody can feel anything for you? Yeah, and she'd be better off saying, listen, it's a little bit awkward because we're in the burgeoning stages of a relationship and we haven't said those words to each other.
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Especially with someone who's like, so love averse, like, commitment phobia. Yeah.
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So just be honest with us. Just be like. Like any relationship, it's been three months. We don't say that to each other yet. So it's. It's awkward to be asked that, but I do. See, that's where it's heading.
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Yeah. No, she can't speak. Like, she then did blame Kyle because she was talking about her performance at the reunion. She was like, well, when Kyle and I fight, like, my defense mechanism is just to totally shut down. And so that's what happened at the reunion. So she's just like, sort of blaming Kyle for her inability to defend herself.
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I don't feel like she.
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Oh, my God.
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I don't know why I, like, have to, like.
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You feel like you have to defend her?
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No, it's like, I don't know. I don't feel like I have to defend her. But I just. Here's a defense.
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Because you want. Because she's pathetic and like, it is. It's hard to watch. You're just like a human.
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And even like, when I think about Wes Mandible and people always want to talk to me about it, like, offline. And like, really, my biggest thing is, like, I can't believe a person could be so stupid. As we said, a generational fumble of goodwill. Like, she had the world at her feet and she threw it away.
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All about to happen.
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For her to hook up with a guy who was so non committal and so not worth everything that you're giving up. So I can't understand the stupidity. And then I see her like this. I'm like, maybe you're stupid.
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The stupidity is like a consistent Thread
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throughout this whole you are stupid. So when she's saying that about Kyle, I don't feel like she's like, you know, trying to blame him. I think she's just trying to explain away here, even though it's not right or it's not good. Like, this is what happened. Yeah.
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And it's just hard to imagine. I mean, I guess time wise when she filmed in the city, like, it hadn't fully come out yet. But it's hard to imagine why someone would keep putting themselves in these positions. Like, I will be shocked if she continues to do this show. Even though I guess, like the worst is behind her. Things will move on and it's like it's all over now.
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Yeah.
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She. They're not on Summer House. They have this new show. It's not Wes. It's just her. It was the big focal point of the season and, like, the show will move on to someone else and something else.
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Yeah. But like, if she's on it again next season, it will be her and west if they're still together.
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And you know what? It should be.
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Yeah.
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I think Summer House will suffer without them. I do.
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Yeah.
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We're just gonna get the same. Like Jesse and Sierra will they. Won't they again, like, I'm good.
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Yeah. Danielle chimed in saying she was disappointed that to learn that they were still together because it did seem like in that aftermath episode of Summer House that, like, she might be thinking about leaving him. She said, I honestly hate that you doubled down and are pursuing this relationship with him all the way, going to Italy with him. I know you had to make a decision one way or the other. I just wish for you that you would take some time just for yourself and be alone.
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Like, I'm torn because I hate Danielle, but these days I actually, like, I feel for her. She and her baby's in the nicu and I just like, seriously, like, that's my mama queen right there. So.
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Yeah.
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You just say what you have to
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say and like, that's an obvious point.
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Yeah. Thanks. I think she feels like, because she really was like a part of so much Summer House. Lauren. It sucks that, like this season. Is this the second season? She's not out of the first season. She wasn't on. Was she on last season?
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She may have been like, more friend.
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Okay. Well, like, the first season she's gone from Is like this explosive. Becomes this global news story. So she wants to get her piece in. Like, Dara had her moment at the reunion.
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I know these people too.
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Yeah. I'M also a part of this. Sure, sweetie. Say your piece.
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Yeah.
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That sucks.
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Yeah. So at least this seems like the most recent, even with the aftermath. It was like, well, this is null and void because we saw them in Italy a thousand percent.
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We know that she made the decision to continue the relationship.
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This is where we know them to be at right now. They're together. They don't say, I love you. They're monogamous. They're going full steam is ahead. And it doesn't seem like she's, like, changed really, at all.
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I don't want anyone on YouTube who's watching, like, to think that I'm drinking milk. She's.
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Can I just clarify? It says boxed water.
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Oh, okay. Okay. I'm drinking water out of a carton. Like, this is so crazy.
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It is crazy.
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Why do people be doing all that? I know that it's, like, for the planet, but you know what? This water tastes like box milk.
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Yeah. That's really not a way to drink water.
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There's a best buy date on this. I don't know. Water could expire. Maybe it's because of the. The box.
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Maybe it doesn't keep it fresh. Also, there's been a lot of drama with, like, Lindsay and Whitney. And Lindsay posted, like, a really long statement yesterday, and I don't know what happened between them, but based on the
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statement she had said on the reunion, she cried for six months about something that Whitney said. Whitney basically, like, she said over the course of the union, like, that Lindsay used the mom card a lot. And she had said it because they went on a trip. And Lindsay was like, well, I want the best bedroom because, like, I'm away from my kids or whatever. And Lindsay, Whitney, before Lindsay said anything, she was like, I didn't. I misspoke. Like, I meant it when I said the thing about the room, but I shouldn't have used it as, like, a blanket statement for your behavior. And then Lindsay, like, couldn't let it go. She was like, I cried for six months when I heard you say that.
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Yeah. It seemed like from her statement, she said something in retaliation that she, like, almost regrets. Like, and she was just trying to, like, give context as to, like, where she was coming from and how she was having a really hard time. And even though, like, she is someone who seems so strong and would, like, never let anyone see her weak, she's just explaining, like, what the last year was like for her. And it's like, even though we knew all of those things her, like. Like, like, laying it out Everything compounded.
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Yeah.
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Two shows, custody battle. I mean, she makes it look smooth, but it's probably not, because when is it ever new? Mama, breastfeeding, hormones, learning. First one in the friend group to have a baby. Like, she's had a year, 100.
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And she never appears, like, weak or vulnerable. She's just like Lindsay, Mama Lindsay. And she always has it together. But she is a person.
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I give grace 1,000% when, like, this
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shocking that, like, Whitney's the one who kind of rattled her. Whitney's so timid.
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Yeah. Yeah. But when the strongest person that you know is like, hey, I'm having a hard time, like, can you just be nice to me? Like, listen.
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Yeah.
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Because they're not saying they don't want to be saying that. It's not like, victim. They don't always go to the victim card. It's true.
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There are a lot of people who. It's like, I actually can't feel bad for you. Like, how are you always a victim?
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You're always victimizing, always down and out. Always, like, want to be seen in a position of, like, weakness and, like, because that to them is strength, I guess. But not Lindsay. So whatever she's saying, just give her grace.
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I agree.
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I don't know what happened, but I'm team Lindsay. Yeah. Probably that feels right.
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History is any indication.
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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, so I think all in all in the City, like, did well, people liked it. I didn't keep up with it, but, like, it made news. Yeah. Yeah.
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No. And there is room for it on Bravo. I think that Summer House, like the graduates, we're sort of waiting. And this is a good solution. I think they have too many cast members.
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Yeah.
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And a lot of them are, like, genuinely unimpactful.
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Yeah.
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Obviously they have to expand outside of, like, the five Summer House people, but it was a lot of people. Like, they were all crunched into Andy's Watch Revin's live studio. It's like a crunchy ass reunion.
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Even this, like, paragraph. There are so many names. Lindsay Hubbard, Kyle Cook, Amanda Batula, Danielle Oliveira, Ian Heavey, Andrea Denver, Lexi Sunden. I feel like they didn't like me.
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I know. We keep going.
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I'm counting Nick Barber, Yvonne Nager, Georgina Furzell, Whitney Franzway, Kenny Martin, and Gavin Mosley.
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That's 14 people. That's way too many. That's too many. Well, good job. I think a good first season.
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Yeah. The place looks great. Our next story. Olivia Rodrigo has a new man, and
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he's sort of like a Wall street job.
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He's a Wall street power player.
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Former field hockey player. I see. There's. There. There's like, such limited Internet about it.
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Yeah, I know. So they went to his LinkedIn and here's what we know about Olivia Rodrigo's new boyfriend, because pictures surfaced online of her and a mystery man named Julian Cronenbergs at the airport. No.
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Okay.
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Most definitely not. It's. If I showed you the spelling, you're gonna be.
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Because Cronenberg sounds Jewish. Oh, no, no, not the RGH.
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But he, according to his LinkedIn, went to Brown University, studied applied mathematics and computer science, and previous previously worked as a banking analyst at Goldman Sachs. He also played for the U.S. men's National Field Hockey Team from 2018 to 2020. And he speaks Dutch and French.
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And she literally told us this on her album. I'm not dating any guy with a fake job.
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This is a real job.
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And she was actually asked an interview. Like, what did you mean by that? And she was like, everyone in LA has, like, a fake job.
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Yeah.
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So she's a real.
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She found a real job.
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They just went on a trip to Iceland together. I saw a picture of them at the airport coming home.
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He, I think, like, now works, like, a private equity firm or something. But, like, don't she give you, like, a little bit of, like, like commie vibes? Like that? She wouldn't go for a guy like this.
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Oh, very interesting. I mean, all these celebrity communists. Being a celebrity is inherently anti communist, so it's just like.
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It's this performance lip service.
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It's just not real.
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Yeah.
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I think there are a couple of celebrity communists who are, like, genuine to the movement and, like, really walk the walk and talk the talk. I don't think Olivia Rodrigo is one of them because she is sort of with her Livy's HQ doing, like, merch collabs with, like, please, please.
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Yeah. No. And I mean, she's also, like, young still.
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It's like, everyone's a communist until it comes to having a boyfriend. Because, like, what do you want from a boyfriend? Like, someone who's really rich, someone who's big and strong, who, like, sort of enforces those gender stereotypes.
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Would a communist really care if he has a fake job? Like, no.
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Because according to communists, like, all jobs are fake.
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Right, right, right. And we. Yeah, please, same job.
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Everyone's a communist until it comes time to, like, have sex.
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Yeah. Or, like, you know, do a merch drop. Do an album. Ticket prices, thousand percent.
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Everyone's a communist until it's Time for dynamic pricing.
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Right?
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Please.
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I just could see that, like, down the road, like, being an issue between the two because, like, if he works in, like private equity or like hedge funds, like their core. Their core principles is like, money, money, money. And like, he will make so much money and like, if. If she is like a little anti capitalist, that could really come between them. That's the only, like, red flag I'm seeing because otherwise I love this. I think he's also so cute, very
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handsome, and I love, like the whole going for normie businessman. Bo, obviously, like, you're not that normal. If you have, like a high power finance job. You're an upper crust.
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Upper crust.
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He can go to his tray. Right. But he's still like, just a regular guy.
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Yes. No, I think.
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What do they mean?
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I think it really all does bode well. They also, like, they look. They look like they will be a cute couple together.
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I also have been listening to her
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album a lot and me as well.
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It is so good.
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It is.
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And I'm gonna go and say it's album of the year. I think that Life of a Showgirl will be nominated and it should be nominated in the sense that it had, like, a ton of commercial success and we talked about it a lot.
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Like, it was.
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But it's not the best album that came out this year. I think that her album is. I don't. I have to take a look at the landscape of, like, what other albums came out this year. I don't fully remember, but I. She's got my vote.
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The year is young. But I agree.
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When did the nominate, like, when does the era end?
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Like, I feel. Oh, actually, maybe soon. Because remember, like, T. Loas came out in. When did Tilois come out?
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October came out, like, maybe going back and forth to Florida. So, like.
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Yeah, I think it was like, October in the fall.
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Okay.
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October 13th.
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Okay. Classic.
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And it wasn't eligible for that year's grant.
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Right, Right.
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So, like, maybe it does end in, like, August, in which case the year is not young. And what else did come out?
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Right. That's what I'm gonna say.
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Let me go check my, like, songs.
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What albums are eligible for this year's Grammys? This is where Chad is.
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Like, you know who I love? I don't know if she put out an album or. I'm just getting a spattering of songs. Sienna Spiro.
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She just put out an album and yeah, she'll be up there. She's probably gonna be like a best new artist.
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Yeah.
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Are you a Likely album of the year contenders, according to chat. Taylor Swift, Life of a Showgirl. Rosalia Lux, Morgan Wallen. I'm the problem. I've been listening to that a lot. When it first came out, I. I thought it was bad.
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It's not bad.
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And it's not. It's really good. Miley Something beautiful. Best of luck, Lord. Virgin. These feel like last year. Justin Bieber swag.
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It always feels like last year because it is.
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But Sabrina Carpenter, Mann's best friend, came out last.
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Bad Bunny.
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Debbie T Rar Mas photos. That was last year for the 69th annual Grammys, which will be held in February. 2027. Albums which have been released between August 31, 2025 to August 28, 2026.
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Okay. The year is not. Young T loas is eligible, but they're
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saying, like, Lady Gaga, Mayhem. That feels like, wait, 2026. It's 2026 now.
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Yeah.
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I feel like Chad has bad info.
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I agree. I'm, like, trying to look through my liked songs. I like Lou came up out with an album. Oh, Ella Langley.
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Ella Langley, I think, will be a best new artist contender. If she hasn't, I think you can only be nominated for best new artist three times. I don't know if she's ever been nominated, but she's relatively new. I feel like she might have been nominated once. She, I think, could win. Also her album, I do think, will be nominated for country album of the year and she will win and then album of the year, too. But she will lose.
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I. I agree with that.
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I love her. Thank you for reminding me. She's having such a year. She's having, like, a moment.
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And like, for us, it is butterfly season.
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It's butter.
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You've been checking on the.
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No, I didn't know that. I forgo that. They're like these, like, living things in the dining room.
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Yeah.
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That, like, refused to come alive.
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You should, like, look at them before they. Before they sprout wings. Because it's, like, crazy to see what a real cocoon looks like. We talk about cocooning, you know, we live cocoons. Like, go life goals. They took a tray, but you should look at what they're.
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I'll take a look. I'll take a look.
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It's pretty cool.
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I just, like, never go into the dining room. We have, like, this formal dining room that's genuinely storage.
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Yeah.
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Because we all just eat in the kitchen. It's a butterfly and there's, like, spritz boxes in there.
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Yeah.
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I just. I never make my way into that part of the house.
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But I'll go check it out before they cocoon. Like, I think you'll want to see, like, the. The life cycle.
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It's butterfly season. I'm finding my wings. She has a couple of, like, true also just like that, I'm back to
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song of the year.
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Song of the year.
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Song of the year.
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Excuse me.
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Well, that was like.
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No, I know.
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I choose in Texas. She's in Texas.
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I just want to be hurt so bad. It hurts so bad. It hurts. So I love her.
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Yeah. So anyways, congrats to Olivia Rodrigo. I'm really rooting for her in this relationship.
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Oh, I thought you were talking about album of the year. Me too.
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And album s based on this discussion. Yeah. It's hers to lose. I like her album a lot.
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A lot.
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And it's like, I like it so much, and I'm kind of bummed because it's, like, bummer music, and I find myself listening to a lot of it, and I'm like, that's, like, not my vibe, but I like it so much.
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And, you know, I saw, like, an interesting. Which is, like, very Taylor Swift coded of her.
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The.
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The Cure, which is one of my favorite songs. She talks about how in. In a different song, her. I think the whole album's about Lewis Partridge and how his favorite band is just like Heaven.
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That's a band.
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His favorite song is just like Heaven. And so now, like, when you go to search for the Cure, like, if he's ever going, Olivia Rodrigo will come up instead of his favorite band or in addition to his favorite band.
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Oh, that's funny.
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That's like, a cutesy little thing. That's just what the streets are saying. The other Livy's.
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Yeah, that was like, when people said Taylor Swift name her album Life of a showgirl, because when you look at Pablo, the Life of Pablo, you get T. Los.
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And I just want to say. I'm saying this is, like, obviously a proud Jewess, but the Life of Pablo is, like, one of the best albums ever made.
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I was listening, and I'm gonna say something crazy.
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Like, I actually think it's better than the Life of a Showgirl. Like, it is. It was before he went so nutty, and it's like, of course he's a crazy person, but he is, like, a talented artist.
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Yeah.
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He let the crazy get. And I think that that album is a masterpiece.
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It is. I was listening to my playlist on Shuffle yesterday, and, like, monster came on, and it's just, like, so good. Mentioned space for multiple truths. Yeah, I just. There's a lot going on, you know, and it's like, if we really stopped engaging with, like, everybody who hates Jews,
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like, this is our job.
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So this is our. You know, we just be talking to each other.
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Yeah. So we just. We obviously select certain people to exclude, but we're just doing our best.
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Our next story is actually really crazy. Real Houses number three. Number three. But I know, like, number three is a safe space for you.
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It is, it is.
B
Yeah.
A
It's, like, actually a really good space for me.
B
The Real houses in New York City, Season 16 cast photos, trailer and premiere date are set at Bravo. So yesterday, the trailer dropped for the Real Houses of New York City new season. Couple new cast members, including Erica Hammond, Daisy Toy, Haley Glassman, my best friend, and Carol Radwell. I think the headline of the trailer is that. That they are discussing the Epstein files.
A
They're discussing the Epstein files. They're discussing Love Story, Carolyn and John. John. And she is a real housewife. She has an apple in the truck.
B
She is in the picture. Yeah.
A
I think that a lot of people. It was reported at first that she was friend of, which made it even weirder.
B
But maybe she just, like, brought so much to the show.
A
Yeah. I was dying because they take a trip to a private island that I've been to. So Erica is a friend of mine. Her husband has, like, a. A private island, like a kind of like a Richard Branson type thing.
B
And they do a girls trip, and
A
they take a trip there, and they complain about the food.
B
Oh, that's funny. How was the food? As someone who went.
A
I don't remember it. So, like, it was good.
B
Yeah. You would remember.
A
I don't remember, like, hating it. Right, right, right. And, you know, I'm like, I never let myself get hungry.
B
So. Yeah, I'm curious. Like, this does look good. I think the shakeups were good.
A
Of course. I'm, like, dying. Dying to, like, learn more about Hailey Glassman. Because obviously, like, I feel like I'm like her.
B
Like, really.
A
I just would be, except I keep getting her confused with one of the other new girl. I think maybe I like the other
B
new girl, Daisy Toy, the makeup artist who does, like, makeup for Martha Stewart.
A
Right. And that's why Martha Stewart's in the show.
B
Yeah. And then Erica. No, all the new cast members are good, including Carol, and it's crazy that they're gonna, like, talk about the Epson files now in the trailer, she maintains that she's never a part of like,
A
and who was it? It seems like she's having a one on one conversation with Psy, but whoever
B
brought it up, like, well, also she's like in the street filming and like people are shouting. Epstein files at her. And it doesn't seem like the person who brought it up to her is accusing her of anything. They're just like bringing it up. Bringing it up. Yeah, yeah.
A
And I just want to say I don't believe that Carol was a part of an international sex trafficking ring. But I would like her to explain, like, what it was like to be friends. Like, she is on record friends with Ghislaine Maxwell. And I think a lot of successful people were, and a lot of them were friends with her in a sinister way. And a lot of them were not. I don't think Carol was involved in like the sinister way, but you were friends with someone who is now like the face of the biggest. So like, just tell us about that.
B
Yeah, yeah. And like, what, what was your friendship like?
A
Did you ever like have like an inkling that she was maybe up to no good or was like, she like
B
a perfect actress and like kept those things separate? Carol said she never went to the island. But anyways, like very topical stuff, a thousand percent. It's actually crazy that Carol is back
A
that she would do it again where we're talking about the Kennedys and the Epstein files.
B
But I guess, like, really, if assuming she's like innocent, what does she have to lose? Like, like going on the show, going back on the show.
A
Nothing. You know, she has nothing to lose.
B
She really just stands to gain because right now everyone just like associates her with Elaine.
A
Yeah, she could use some new associations.
B
Yeah, so that'll be good. Now it is time for our fourth story.
A
Do you think I'm ready?
B
No, you're never ready for the fourth story.
A
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Big theme here.
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Great.
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Thank you to Taylor's nationwide. I just reapplied my lipstick if you wanted to do the same.
A
Am I looking like a little.
B
No, but I just like I didn't. I wanted to remember to tell you okay so that we could all have
A
lipstick on and like for everyone, they're gonna like probably be dying for a Link. Let me just. Like, this is the Fenty Beauty gloss bomb. Oh, wait. I have something to tell you.
B
Oh, tell me. This is the Westman atelier. You know, the streets are saying clean liquid lip balm.
A
The streets are saying, like, things are maybe going south at Fenty Beauty.
B
I saw that.
A
They're discontinuing one of their big foundations.
B
I don't think it's happening. Okay, what do you think?
A
I think that when I look at the landscape of, like, makeup brands in general and also celebrity found in makeup brands, I think that it's not at the height that it once was, but nothing stays high forever. No.
B
And also, like, sometimes not everything needs to be, like, rata ta all the time. Yeah. Talked about all the time. Like, you have your face faves. You re buy them, and that's.
A
A lot of people have Fenty Beauty faves. I'm not even, like, a huge Fenty Beauty fan, but I have, like, three or four products of. Okay, like two or three that are. Go to. I have lipstick. I have the diamond bomb eyeshadow. So, yeah, it's not like a totally irrelevant brand. I think maybe they've taken a dip from where they once were in terms
B
of, like, being talked about, but you're not going to be talked about forever, and eventually you just settle.
A
When it comes to practical application of policy, I think that they're one of the best brands when it comes to making so many shades of concealer foundation, like, super inclusive, not just of, like, you know, light to dark, but, like, neutral, warm. I think people really, like, often find great matches. So, yeah, I think it's a good brand. I don't know why people are saying that, but that's just what they're saying.
B
Yeah, Maybe they have so many products they're scaling down a little bit to, like, you know, increase revenue or whatnot, but I don't think it's going anywhere.
A
Me neither. It's also. It's a Sephora company. Right. Like, they're not at Ulta. Sephora, like, creates a lot of these brands, like, make it by Mario's Partially Rare Beauty, and they become exclusive to Sephora.
B
Yeah.
A
So do they not sell Fenty Beauty at Ulta? I feel like that would be crazy, but maybe they don't.
B
Crazier things have happened. Our fourth story, Jennifer Aniston has exited the I'm Glad My mom died by Jeanette McCurdy book adaptation. So Jennifer Aniston, she was going to play the moment she was gonna be in the movie, and I guess she would be the mom.
A
Okay. Oh, my God.
B
Who else would she be?
A
I don't know. I mean, there are, like, other characters, but.
B
But, like, if she's taking a lead role, which. She's Jennifer Aniston. So she's the mom. Yeah, she is. Out of the Jennette McCurdy Television adaptation of her hit memoir, I'm Glad My Mom Died.
A
That's a bummer. That would have been good for her.
B
Sources with direct knowledge tell TMZ the show is still being worked on and scripts are being written. However, we're told at some point Jennifer backed out due to scheduling conflict. Sure. The show has had a rocky development. Last year, it almost fell apart. The show was announced in June 2025 with Jennifer attached as an executive producer and starring as the fictional version of Jeanette's mom.
A
Is Jeanette, like, playing herself or is she involved at all? Or she just gave her book, her story to someone?
B
I'm sure she gave the story is involved, not playing her young self.
A
I think, like, you know, she's so attached to it. I imagine that it's just difficult. If there are difficulties, I would imagine that. That it's from Jeanette. Like, it's her story. It's so personal. And, you know, they always change stuff because when it becomes a TV show, it's not really about what actually happened. It's about making an entertaining TV show. And sometimes you have to change that. And so I feel like if there is trouble, it's because of that. And she would just be better off, like, giving it to someone, selling it, if you want to make it into something and not being involved unless you're going to act in it.
B
Yeah. One of the directors who was, like, slated to do it dropped out due to creative differences with Jeanette. Outlet reported that Jeanette was opposed to him trying to make the show more comedic than the memoir. Again, like, it is for television. Like, we have to.
A
Although the book, like, is pretty snarky. Like, her tone, it's not. I mean, it's obviously dark because they cover a lot of dark things, but she has, like, a funnyish.
B
Well, he wants to make it even funnier.
A
But I also understand, I love that,
B
why Jeanette's so attached to it, because it's her story, her life story, her, like, life and soul into it. But it's either like, give it to the showrunners and let them do what they do or don't, you know, or don't.
A
Yeah. I think think writers being involved is always bad. I think Colleen Hoover would agree. Like the only movie she's ever been involved in was like a show. When you are right. If. When you write a book and it gets optioned, like just go or don't sell it.
B
Right. If it's like personal to you, you don't want it distorted. You don't want people to like think of the story that way. That's like not true. And these are real characters. So like that makes it different too. With Colleen Hoover, if we think of, you know, Lily as different than what she was, it's like it doesn't really matter.
A
I feel like that was the only book that she ever wrote that was like super personal because like Lily was based on her mom. So maybe that's why she wanted to be attached.
B
Yeah. But still it wasn't like a one to one true story at all. So like she distorted the character a little bit and let the movie makers do the same. But I understand if Jeanette feels like I don't want the world to see me this way or my siblings or my mom, like if that's not how they actually were. In which case don't do it. Yeah, don't do it.
A
Maybe she's learning that maybe, you know, it's her first big book.
B
This like people forget that like before
A
the book she was really like not doing much. I don't know how she was like paying her bills or anything, but she wasn't a working actor, she wasn't a working writer. So this like revitalized her in so many different ways. So I get why she's attached to it and. But you just gotta like sort of shit or get off the pot.
B
Yeah. It seems.
A
Although I don't love the idea of it being turned into a comedy. Maybe Jeanette was right for that. That.
B
Yeah. I don't know. But now Jennifer leaving, I. I just think it's like it's probably never going to get off the ground.
A
Yeah. Which is a shame because it was an insane book.
B
They haven't even announced the new director.
A
You know, speaking of directors, I've been watching a lot of the press for the Odyssey and obviously so much of the press is like just talking about what it's like to work with Christopher Nolan. And it's literally insane that Josh Peck was in Oppenheimer. Like I feel like he doesn't get. He doesn't talk about it enough. It's like such a thing to be in a Christopher Nolan movie.
B
You should press Ben to press him about it. Yeah.
A
Now that like, it's very top Of.
B
Yeah.
A
And I feel like when it was happening, like, Ben was telling me, I didn't really understand, like, why it was a big deal, but, like, now I understand Christopher Nolan. Like, I get why it's a big deal. And, like, that's crazy that Josh was in it.
B
Yeah. I need to see the Odyssey. I just don't know how logistically, like, that.
A
Well, and, you know, you're really supposed to see it in theaters, imax.
B
Yeah, well, of course in theaters, imax,
A
they say it's, like, not even worth seeing it. Not in my max.
B
It's just a completely, like, lesser experience. Like, I saw a, like, a grid of, like, the different. Different screens on, like, a standard screen versus, like, IMAX.
A
Also, I heard, like, IMAX 40. Like, the chairs are shaking.
B
I don't need IMAX 4D. I just. I want something in the middle.
A
Yeah.
B
You know, middle crust. I prefer upper in this case. I don't need upper. I'm not going. I heard, like, Lincoln center is the best theater to watch.
A
Oh, really?
B
There's like, one Lincoln center and then, like, one in California that are. Those are, like, the best ones. I'm not doing all that.
A
Okay.
B
But I'll do more than just, like, the standard.
A
Fine.
B
I need widescreen even. Of course, I don't know what our options are out here.
A
There are actually a couple of movie theaters, although I believe they're all standard.
B
Right. So maybe it will have to wait. Our fifth and final story. Harry Styles cancels a concert last minute due to mysterious health issue a month after collapsing on stage.
A
So Harry Styles collapsed on stage a month ago?
B
Yeah. In England.
A
That's, like, crazy that we didn't know that. That.
B
Yeah.
A
Not to bring everything back to, like, his flop era, but that's crazy.
B
I know. This is very mysterious. He canceled his Tuesday concert in Sao Paulo due to a health issue just one month after he collapsed on stage in England. Live Nation Brazil wrote on X. We deeply regret to inform you that Harry Styles show scheduled for Tuesday, July 21, 2026, has been canceled due to a health issue on the tour. Tickets were refunded. A rep for Harry said that the Friday show was scheduled as planned. However, this hasn't been his first bump in the road. He choked on water while performing his whale spit move at Wembley.
A
That's not a big deal.
B
And then he was seen in the social media video falling to the stage floor. He stayed down while he tried to catch his breath for several seconds.
A
Oh, my.
B
He appeared to tap his chest as well to try to alleviate his discomfort. Then he got up and waved to the audience as he ran off stage. Oh, my.
A
I hope he's okay. That's, like, so scary.
B
Yeah.
A
I didn't much like Sanderivo. I knew none of this.
B
Yeah. I wonder what the health issue was. That's like stopping him from doing a show. That's a big deal to, like, not
A
do a show, especially for, like, a young.
B
Yeah.
A
Male.
B
Yeah. More than just, like, the common cold. Of course.
A
Usually they say, I can't talk.
B
Yeah. And that, like, Harry hasn't said anything. It's just Live Nation so far.
A
Weird.
B
Yeah.
A
Very weird.
B
Weird. Very weird. Those are the past five stories. Feel as though you needed to know
A
I had a good time.
B
Me as well.
A
Hopefully I didn't talk over you.
B
What was your favorite story?
A
Oh, no, not straight. My favorite part was we were talking about, like, what? You know, like, going back to our
B
chambers and taking trays. That was your favorite part?
A
What was your favorite part?
B
My favorite part was there was something in the beginning. What were we talking about in the beginning?
A
So many things. Oh, like ordering in? No, no. Bradley on a budget.
B
Oh, I love cardboard Koji. But no, I forget. I'll. I'll have to remember whenever we finish the show. I, like, can't remember at all. We spoke about, like, when we're still
A
in it, though, so I can't remember. But the second we wrap, when we
B
have to, like, choose a title at the end, I'm like, I don't even know what we said.
A
Yep.
B
What was said here at this show.
A
And I just want to say I watched yesterday's episode, obviously read all my hate comments, but I did really love the way my hair looked. So my 85 blowout. Like, I will be returning.
B
You should. It looks so great. Great.
A
Yeah, it was. It was really good. It was, like, kind of giving, like. Like Pantene commercial. Like, the layers, the shine.
B
Yeah. Do it again.
A
Yeah, I'm going to. Maybe you'll come.
B
Yeah, I would love to do that.
A
All right, you guys, that is our show. Thank you so much for listening to the Toast, the millennial morning show where we deal with the fastest stories you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So if you're watching this on YouTube, pay attention, please. Please give this video, like, thumbs up comment, like Star Review. Subscribe. We're also available as podcast anywhere. Podcast we found. So that's Spotify, Apple Podcasts and YouTube. Wherever you podcast, find us the Toast. Leave a five star review about how beautiful, stunning, and wickedly talented. We are. Hope you guys have an amazing day and we'll see you tomorrow.
B
What's the emoji for today?
A
I just want to say I've been loving that. Hold on, let's see how many we comments we got yesterday.
B
Emoji for today? Maybe a pizza.
A
Is there a tray? A pizza? People are gonna think we're into, like, pedophilia.
B
Like, like, maybe not.
A
Is there a. Okay, hold on. Let's see. Yesterday. Oh, my God. We're getting, like, 600 comments today. Like, seriously engagements through the roof. Okay, let me look at the emojis. Like, what are our options?
B
Maybe not a pizza.
A
Is there a tray? No. Maybe not a pizza. What else do we talk about?
B
It's so hard. What have we spoken about? Let me check the stories again.
A
We talked about Advil. Oh, leave a pill. I love that. Leave a pill and we'll see you
B
on the next one. Love you.
A
Bye.
B
Love ya. Bye.
THE TOAST: “Retiring To Our Chambers” – July 22, 2026
Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry
Podcast: The Toast (Dear Media)
In this rich, free-flowing Wednesday episode, Jackie and Claudia usher in “hump day” with their trademark candid conversation, full of playful sisterly banter. The theme is centered around embracing slower, suburban living, grappling with minimalism vs. abundance, their public personas, and loads of pop culture and reality TV deep-dives. They discuss community feedback, influencer identity, the “cardboard”/sweeper lifestyle, and trending entertainment news with their signature humorous, self-aware lens.
Sexy Bookstore Mishap (00:32): Claudia recounts almost texting a "sexy photo" of herself with a book to a used bookstore’s “sell a book” number—nearly embarrassing herself and sparking a conversation about upcycling and minimalism.
“Cardboard” Lifestyle Explained (02:00): They riff on “cardboard” as more than cheapness—it’s about minimalism and not collecting unnecessary stuff, inspired by the likes of "Extreme Cheapskates" and viral content creators like “Bradley on a Budget.”
Influencer Identity in the Suburbs (06:13): Claudia talks about enjoying being a "big fish in a small pond," as suburban life means being the only podcaster/influencer in town, versus one of many in the city.
Nostalgia for Aristocratic “Retiring to Chambers” (15:01–16:32): They daydream about the old custom of upper-class women being able to withdraw to their rooms (“their chambers”) in the middle of the day, wishing for that kind of self-care in modern life.
The episode is a classic slice of “The Toast”—a mix of intimate real-life moments, influencer meta-commentary, playful feuding, beauty and branding chat, and thoughtful (yet always light-hearted) pop culture critique. Jackie and Claudia keep it relatable, sometimes self-deprecating, and always conversational—inviting listeners into their “chambers” for another fun day.
Emoji for Today: 💊 (Leave a pill emoji in the comments!) — “Leave a pill and we’ll see you on the next one!” (64:09)