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Claudia
Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast. It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host. It's your favorite show, the best five
Turt
things you need to know. We'll start your day off Swirly. It's the Toast.
Claudia
They sound amazing.
Turt
Welcome back to the Toast and happy Monday after a big zis in Pesach. Everybody have achad sameach. I'm starving. Hey, Jax, how you doing?
Claudia
I'm doing good. I'm back at home. We're back in our home studios. Frames have pride of place once again. It's exciting to be home and I feel like we're simpatico again because. Are you wearing Boys Lie as well? Boys Lee?
Turt
No.
Claudia
No, you're not.
Turt
Oh, no. I'm wearing something you could, like, literally never get access to or afford. I'm wearing the Gap, so.
Claudia
Oh, I thought.
Turt
Watch your mouth.
Claudia
I thought you were wearing Boysley. You know, my days with boys, I are numbered because, like, learning how to spell and read, and I can't have him reading like, boys lie.
Turt
Oh, my God. Now we have to get like, women are beautiful. Men are wonderful.
Claudia
What are the. What are the boy mamas doing? I can't walk around in clothes all day that say boys I. Boys lie. Boys lie.
Turt
As a boy mama, yeah, you definitely can.
Claudia
That just sends a bad message.
Turt
And these are the things, like, nobody talks about the trials and tribulations of being a mom who gets free clothes from Boys lie.
Claudia
I know, I know. And it's funny because you know how they have the angels on boys. I. So whenever I'm wearing it, like Harry said the other day, he's like, you wear a lot of angels.
Turt
My perceptive king don't say anything about how much he misses his coaches.
Claudia
We're so close to being like, B O Y S L, I, E. What does that spell?
Turt
Boysley.
Claudia
Boys tell the truth. How about boys?
Turt
Boys are wonderful.
Claudia
Boys are honest with their mamas and always tell them the truth.
Turt
We need to start it. Today's Monday. We haven't done an episode since Wednesday. And I just want to say I'm so grateful to everybody involved in West Mandala. West Mandel for not. I thought there was going to be, like, so much breaking news that we wouldn't be able to talk about. Nothing has happened, which I'm so grateful for.
Claudia
We needed a beat because I'm glad to, like, have a lot to talk about today. It's also so funny how this name has become West Mandel and there's no bit of, like, scandal was scandal Sandoval. But now it's only the Sandoval part. There's no scandal.
Turt
No, ofall, like, is scandal.
Claudia
I know, but it's actually just Tom Sandal.
Turt
So do we have any stories about scandal?
Claudia
Le story is all of the updates, all the bits.
Turt
And I have some information. Nothing brand new, but I. I heard from an extremely legit source, and my sources have been. I just want to say you guys questioned my first source. Like, sources have been slaying, and I heard the version of events I would
Claudia
literally expect your sources to be slaying considering they're like five feet away from.
Turt
Yeah. From stardom.
Claudia
From Les Manal.
Turt
Yeah, it's true. It's true.
Claudia
And also, I think a lot has come out, sort of like piecing together the timeline of events and we can sort of get an idea of, like, what's been going on.
Turt
Yeah. I will say a lot of the versions of events that are being, like, spoken about on, like, drama channels and stuff is, like, pretty accurate. What I have heard, which I believe to be the truth, I've seen people reiterating similar versions of it.
Claudia
Yeah. That me as well, based on what you told me. So I think we can speak with some authority as to what's been going on.
Turt
Definitely. And what else has been going on is that we had Passover over the weekend. We haven't had bread since Wednesday. And, like, I'm in hell. I did not realize maybe there was an era of my life where, like, cutting out all these different things would have been easier. But, like, I'm very much in, like, my carb era, and I didn't realize how all my meals have, like, something hamatesy in it, you know?
Claudia
But you're still having rice, right?
Turt
No.
Claudia
Oh, you're not?
Turt
No. Some years, like, in the middle, I give up and do rice. Because if you're from, like, the Middle east, if you're Sephardic and you Persian.
Claudia
Moroccan.
Turt
My Moroccan family. Yeah. They have rice. And so once you have rice, like, Pesach is not hard. The Ashkaras, like the Eastern European Jews, like the whiter toned Jews, we don't do any of it. So it's like, it's actually so hard at. I've actually, like, I. I can't talk to spartic people. Like, you don't know. True struggle.
Claudia
Yeah.
Turt
Like, they. I. I saw this Moroccan woman, like, making her seder. She, like, five rice dishes. I'm like, that's not a seder, that's a Friday night.
Claudia
Yeah.
Turt
Oh, my God. Speaking of Friday night.
Claudia
What happened?
Turt
Do the craziest thing over the weekend.
Claudia
Oh, Ben's birthday.
Turt
Yes. So it's so rare that you, like, make a plan and you actually follow through on it. And so when we were driving home from the Hamptons this summer, we were boys that girls came on, and Ben was like, we should go to a concert. He, like, looked it up. He's, like, always doing annoying things like that. We never go and happened to have been on his birthday. And so we made this plan that we were like, get a big group. Get like a big limo or a party bus and go. Lo and behold, we did it on Friday. Like, good on us for actually following through on a plan. I feel like that's sort of major. And, yeah, we just. It was. It's a weird time of year. A lot of people are out of town for Pesach and Easter. So whoever was in town, we invited, like, everyone. And this ragtag bunch, you know, people from all walks of life. Ben's friends, my friend, college, summer, whatever.
Claudia
It looks like the usuals.
Turt
It was. And we all loaded up on a party bus, which was literally the best part of the night. We, like, listened to email music.
Claudia
A party bus, you guys, you don't
Turt
need to, like, do anything. You just need to get on a
Claudia
party and just drive around.
Turt
When I was at the concert and I was obviously having a blast, but a part of me was like, I wish we never got off the party bus. Oh, my God. And the funniest thing happened on the bus. So Joey Kamasta was there. And it's so funny because, like, I know Joey through. Through, like, podcasts, but I forget that he has this, like, huge platform every week he's on Jersey Shore. So we were waiting for, like, a couple of people to get on the bus, you know, the late people. Even though I told them not to be late late. And so I'm texting the driver, like, just, we need three more people. He was so nice, like, waiting outside. Help. And so. So I'm texting him, like, five more minutes. And he goes. So he texts me. I'm in the back of the bus. He goes, is that Joey, AKA Snooki's best friend from Jersey Shore? And I'm like, yup. He's like, yo, he lost mad weight.
Claudia
Did you tell Joey? He said that?
Turt
Of course Joey was freaking out, but Joey's used to it.
Claudia
Like, Joey know about the weight loss part?
Turt
Of course. Joey is so skinny.
Claudia
Oh, really?
Turt
Yeah, he looks really good. He said he's on a Lethal dose. It was just so funny. And it was such a good time. The concert was so good. So, like, the first half of the concert, they opened up with, like, a song that everybody knew. And I think everybody on the bus was, like, surprised at, like, the two or three bangers that they knew because they were like, oh, I don't know. I'm just here for a good time. Meanwhile, me and Ben are, like, you know, singing every word. The first half was, like new music. So it was very much, like, time to get merch and drinks, you know? And then Margot was looking up the set list, and there was, like, a second act and the second act, which was, like, all the hits.
Claudia
If Margot's not looking up the set list, she's not Margot.
Turt
One thing about Margo, she has a premium subscription to that website, Setlist fm. Like, she's obsessed with it. And I will say, sometimes it's like a vibe killer. It's like, can we just be in the moment? But in the middle, when they were playing all this new music, I'm like, sachi, what is going on? And she was like, this is like, the first act with new music. And. And that was grateful that she had her premium subscription, because I was, like, kind of in hell. And then the second half was so good. And the funny thing is that, like, I think of boys like girls as, like, this emo mosh. I put on the party full invitation. Like, dress in emo. I had black lipstick on. And when I put on my TikTok, people were like, so funny. Turning black Boys like girls does not require, like, black lipstick. I'm like, you don't. I'm like, you're wrong. You're wrong. When we got there, I felt so stupid. It was just a concert. Like, it was just normal. It was like millennials. Like, it was not. I guess it was, like, going to, like, the Fray concert. They're not like that.
Claudia
It's not like, going to Panic at the disco.
Turt
And I felt so stupid. And Ben was. And, like, the funny thing was, I thought it was so emo. And you had those emo concerts. They really mosh. Yeah, they g a concert. So I said, let's stay in the back because I don't want to get involved in the mosh. Ben was, like, really trying to match with his friends, and there were just, like, normal people around us. And I literally had to apologize. I'm like, I'm so sorry. Ben was, like, pushing people. I'm like, ben, it's not. This is.
Claudia
You guys were like, we don't want to mosh. We hope.
Turt
That is like shoving little girls in the back. I'm like, ben, you have to stop.
Claudia
Oh, my God.
Turt
So we were like. We were a little unclear on, like, the vibe.
Claudia
That's fine. You could have been having a theme night, though, like a bachelorette party that went to a concert, and I made it punk night.
Turt
And then Ben, you know, Ben has to just do the most. So afterwards we went to Marquis because James Kennedy. I got there, like, 11:30. James Kennedy didn't go until 1. You know, my ass left at 11:45. I was like, I. I can't be like, yeah, waiting around till one. That's how some of the.
Claudia
That's how the party goes. Clown on.
Turt
Yeah. So the younger folks stayed and they said it was a blast. But just to be clear, I. I actually did not see James Kennedy.
Claudia
Did he play Top man? You're a bad man. She said, I don't know.
Turt
I wasn't there, but I hope so.
Claudia
I'll have to ask that. She.
Turt
And then on Saturday night, I did
Claudia
something even crazier, which is I watched
Turt
the Lamar Odom documentary, the Life and death of Lamar Odom. Chilling.
Claudia
The life and death. Wow. Should be deaths.
Turt
So they had, like, three. They had actually, like, five people telling the story. Lamar, Chloe.
Claudia
Yeah.
Turt
Lamar's ex wife and her children. Their children. The guy who was running the love ranch, the Bunny ranch, whatever it's called. Yeah. Who, like, found Lamar. And Lamar's aunt, who was really just, like, adding a lot of color. I enjoyed her presence. It was.
Claudia
And remember, Lamar's best friend from Chloe in the Martin. He passed away.
Turt
Of course. Jamie. They didn't really. They showed one clip of him, and I wanted Chloe to talk about it more. There was. So it could have been five hours long, like, because you could have delved into the marriage. And I forget, like, Lamar was that guy just by himself, like, from basketball. He was best friends with Kobe. And, you know, a lot of this wouldn't have even happened if Shaq wasn't traded to Miami.
Claudia
Shaq's fault.
Turt
And. No, no. Shaq and Kobe were, like, beefing on the Lakers and it was, like, not working out. They had these two amazing players and they couldn't work together. So the organization at the Lakers, like, had to make a decision and they chose Kobe and they traded Shaq to Miami for, like, these two randos. Lamar.
Claudia
So it's Jack's fault.
Turt
Yeah.
Claudia
And it's crazy to think that, like, if they just get along, like Chloe Lamar might have never gotten married.
Turt
No, 100%, because it was just. There were so many parts of it that were so heartbreaking. Like, Lamar, I think part of the reason he likes something, like a big trauma of his that he. And I think the beginning of the end for his former life, like, he was married to this, you know, girl he knew from growing up. They had three kids, and one of them died of sids.
Claudia
I heard that.
Turt
Like, and he just couldn't cope. He, like, never saw his wife again. He was flying back to la, and she was like, I'm not going back to la. Like, this is where she's from, Queens. They were, like, there for a funeral or something, and she was like, I'm not going back. And he was like, I'm going back. And they, like, never spoke again. And so I think he has a really fractured relationship with his kids. I do. I do think that it's getting better. And then the Chloe of it all, like, we don't even know the half of Chloe's involvement in his. And, you know, there was, like, some beef because the wife was like, you know, we weren't allowed to see Lamar. There was, like, a guy standing outside the hospital room when he was recovering in Vegas, you know, making in Cedar Sinai, making people sign NDAs and not letting anyone in. And Chloe was like, yeah, yeah. At first it was a free for all. Then there were drug dealers coming stealing stuff because Lamar owed them money. So, yeah, we cracked down a little bit, and I guess everybody had to sign an NDA, which is very Kris Jenner. I didn't fault Chloe for a single choice she made during that time. The whole thing is so crazy. Like, there were so many crazy parts of it. I think a lot of people are saying it was kind of a bad look for Lamar overall.
Claudia
Yeah, I'm sure.
Turt
No, sorry, the documentary.
Claudia
Yeah, I'm sure his.
Turt
No, his current. Oh.
Claudia
I mean, how could he be, like, so rehabilitated? We saw him on Kardashians last season. Like, he's not.
Turt
Yeah, but do you remember when we were saying how, like, it was such a weird thing, like, Chloe was being, like, kind of weird towards him? She wasn't weird enough. Like, she does Kris Jenner going to a motel in the middle of the night to pick up cracked out Lamar Odom because some hooker just called a lady in his phone, didn't, like, ask for money or anything insane.
Claudia
Yeah, yeah.
Turt
Kris Jenner is such a real one. She should have been in the documentary. Like, it was crazy.
Claudia
How did she physically get him out of there.
Turt
Oh, that was the other thing. Lamar's size.
Claudia
Yeah.
Turt
Played a really big role in his recovery in, like, they couldn't get him. All the. The couple of prostitutes at the Love Bunny Ranch, and then the guy who was, like, working the office, they. They had to, like, push him off the bed onto the floor. He weighs three. And he was also at, like, a very bad place in his life. He was not physically fit, so £300. They couldn't get him onto a stretcher, the ambulance, like, all these different things. His recovery was very challenging because he was so big.
Claudia
Yeah.
Turt
It's such a crazy documentary. It's such a crazy story. And I know I was alive for it, but I still feel like I don't even remember how crazy it was.
Claudia
No, I remember it, but I just. We didn't. Weren't privy to, like, all of the details at the time. You know, the fact that he was. Chloe was nursing him back to life, and he had drug dealers coming in the hospital. No, no one told us that.
Turt
The fact that, like, finally, six months after he had to learn to walk again, learn to talk again. She rents him a house in Hidden Hills. Full staff, full everything. She comes in to check on him, and she said, I smelled crack the second I walked in. And once you smell crack, it's the most disgusting smell you've ever smelled. He's doing crack. She threw him out. And she said that was last time she saw him.
Claudia
Yeah. So no, we didn't know that until recently.
Turt
No. So no insane. And Lamar feels very lost. He was like, I survived the craziest thing, obviously, for a purpose, and I don't know what my purpose is.
Claudia
Yeah.
Turt
So it was sort of, like, inconclusive.
Claudia
Okay. Tbd.
Turt
Yeah. I highly recommend it.
Claudia
TBD on my birthday buddy.
Turt
Speaking of my birthday buddy, I did something crazy last night.
Claudia
Crack.
Turt
Crazier.
Claudia
Meth.
Turt
I caught up on that. Real Housewives of Beverly and Erica.
Claudia
Jane, it's your birthday buddy.
Turt
My birthday buddy.
Claudia
Wait, I didn't even talk about. And I. I forgot to put it in the stories, but we have to talk about Mass Singer.
Turt
Why is it Picasso? We didn't talk about that.
Claudia
No, it happened after we went off the air.
Turt
Don't add in the stories. It could just be a. You guys pretty passive.
Claudia
Banner hug. Caso came runner up. He didn't even win Mass Singer. It was Philip Phillips.
Turt
Confirmed, obviously.
Claudia
Winner was Galaxy Girl, Ashley Simpson.
Turt
Oh, did the final episode air?
Claudia
Yes.
Turt
Oh, I missed that whole thing.
Claudia
Yes. It's all over. Ashley Simpson beat Philip Phillips. How?
Turt
Honestly, It's a slay on Ashley's part. Agreed, agreed. Like, Philip Phillips is one of the most talented vocalists of our time. Like, Ashley Simpson's great, too. I think she just had a little bit more stage presence, like, with her outfit.
Claudia
Yeah, yeah. And she could, like, move and stuff.
Turt
She wearing leggings. It was kind of unfair.
Claudia
Let me ask you something. When you went up in the battle against Pugasso.
Turt
Yeah. So that's what's crazy. Like, I was literally standing in front of Philip Phillips.
Claudia
Right. And you lost that battle, and that was sort of like you're turning like, you're 13 threes in, like.
Turt
Yeah, I was pissed as hell.
Claudia
If you had known in that moment that it was Philip Phillips, would you have felt, like, a little differently, a little softer?
Turt
Yes. I had no idea who it was. And then even when the episode premiered, it was, like, pretty much confirmed that
Claudia
it was Cord over street and Anthony Ramos.
Turt
No, it was never Anthony Ramos. I thought it was for sure Cord Over Street. And I was like, I feel like maybe I could have beaten Court Overstreet. Like, I was just like, now that I still have Phillips, he wasn't American Idol. Like, I was never gonna beat him. So, yeah, I'm softer.
Claudia
So, like, if you had known in that moment, if you lost and someone said to you, claudia, like, it's Philip Phillips, you were never gonna meet him. He did amazing. Like, would that have changed things?
Turt
No. Okay.
Claudia
Wow. What a fun ride. Can you do Messinger again? Because I don't know how I'm gonna live without these stories.
Turt
It kind of feels like Fox needs to cast you. Like, I'm going to text the girl. Super. I'm going to text the girl. Like, you kind of have to cast my sister.
Claudia
The problem is. Well, first of all, if you had a hard time, like, living in Los Angeles with a kid, like, I have three, what am I going to do?
Turt
You just sort of have to do it.
Claudia
Like, in addition to all the logistical issues that, like, you had an issue with, that would only be worse for me. I have a bad voice.
Turt
Oh, please. That's clearly not a barrier for entry. Most of the people on that show have bad voices.
Claudia
I get. Yeah, I guess, but I just, like. I don't know. I guess I wouldn't go very far, but I don't think I would want to.
Turt
Correct.
Claudia
I'm sorry if you couldn't. I could never.
Turt
I don't know. Just kind of feels like you have to.
Claudia
I know. Because I'm the Biggest fan of the show now.
Turt
Yeah.
Claudia
So it's great success with that. But, like, I. I mean, I could. No, no, I.
Turt
I couldn't possibly.
Claudia
Possibly.
Turt
You know what's also really exciting about today's show? What? So I had to drive, like, for reasons I really don't want to get into.
Claudia
Oh, low key slay, mama.
Turt
Yeah, I. I circled the block for about 20 minutes looking for some place to park. There wasn't a garage, so I quite literally left it in the middle of the street. Like, if I leave this studio and my car is where I left it, even with a ticket, I. I will be floored. And I have. Have you ever gotten towed?
Claudia
No.
Turt
Me neither. I feel like there's quite literally not one thing more inconvenient in the entire world than getting your car towed.
Claudia
Agreed. I also can sense you've been hanging out with Sachi because you keep saying quite literally that's what she says.
Turt
Well, I have been hanging out with Sachi, and quite literally, we had the best time.
Claudia
Right?
Turt
Does she say that?
Claudia
She does
Turt
now be talking like a young person today.
Claudia
Speaking of Satchel. No, no, not speaking of Satchel. Quite literally, not speaking of Satchel.
Turt
I got a DM from Satchel Maloney, and I didn't open it. I'm like, I hate our jobs. Like, why can't we just talk about Satchel Maloney in peace? Like, I don't know. In private.
Claudia
I don't know. I don't know why.
Turt
He obviously wants to come on the pod.
Claudia
Like, no.
Turt
Like, I can't.
Claudia
No. Don't ruin the mystery.
Turt
Guys, if I ever talk about you on the podcast, unless you're, like, Taylor Swift, like, please don't reach out.
Claudia
Yeah. Or Philip Phillips. That's.
Turt
No. Like, even then.
Claudia
Even then, it was, like, bad at first, but now full circle. He's so a part of toast lore.
Turt
That's my king right there. I, like, I just love him.
Claudia
I can't believe he didn't win. It's, like, disgusting.
Turt
It is. I bet he was pissed.
Claudia
Well, congrats to Ashley Simpson. Jessica showed up for the reveal.
Turt
Oh, yes, she did.
Claudia
A birthday buddy of yours.
Turt
It's kind of a theme of today's episode.
Claudia
Birthday buddies.
Turt
Yeah.
Claudia
Yeah,
Turt
yeah, yeah.
Claudia
So let's get into the story, shall we? Because people are literally only tuning in because they discovered us on Wednesday, and now they're like, what are you two.
Turt
Why are these girls talking about Philippines?
Claudia
Who's two freaks talking about? We're here for West Mandeval. Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Turt
We'll put it in the timestamps you
Claudia
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Claudia
Thank you, Turt.
Turt
You're welcome.
Claudia
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Turt
I love. You know, I think they are available in Turtlandia.
Claudia
Okay, first story. West Mandeval updates a couple things. Couple things. First, Amanda Batula was seen embracing her ex, Kyle Cook, in New York City after the news of the. The romance. So we had our first spotting. She was taking the dogs for a walk. Kyle was there. Kyle's actually been, like, pretty. I.
Turt
How do you feel?
Claudia
Like, active. But I also feel like he's handling it. He's being, like, very empathetic towards Amanda, I think, which is so very. I think he's coming off well. I mean, people are living for, like, Kyle and Carl's a mess. And Lindsay and, like, so funny.
Turt
Like, so, so, like, Kyle. Yes, I agree. He was spotted, like, by a photographer, and they interviewed him really briefly. And he was basically like, obviously, this is so crazy. And, like, I'm hurt, but, like, I'm really worried about Amanda. I think, like, Amanda really does struggle with depression. She talked about it a lot on Summer House last couple of years. And this is just, like, kind of a. A bad thing for someone who's depressed to go through.
Claudia
No happy person would really struggle.
Turt
Right.
Claudia
With the whole world hating you.
Turt
And so he, you know, reiterated that he's just kind of worried about her. He's been speaking to her. And obviously he's technically a victim in this. Sure. So if anyone has a right to be, like, so, so mad and not feel bad for, it's him. And he's not taking that route. And he said, carl's a mess. And it was just like, this offhanded remark that, funny, Carl's a mess. Like, why would Carl care? Like, it's literally so funny. And then that led to, like, a Uber Eats commercial with Lindsay and Carl, and they were ordering all the things that Carl needs because he's a mess. Like, chocolate lover boy tissues. Like, very funny. Good on Uber Eats.
Claudia
And lover boy also put out merch. Carl's a mess. Yes. So I think proceeds are being donated to a charity. But the rest, I mean, not all.
Turt
They very briefly talked about it on Giggly Squad because they were like, we would never monetize off of our friends, like, trauma. And a lot of people think that might have been, like, a dig at the people now, like, doing brand deals. I actually don't think it was. I think they are actually. This is their actual sister. So, yeah, them doing a commercial, like, would be weird. But I don't think that they were coming for the Uber Eats thing.
Claudia
I don't think so either. I also didn't see Uber Eats stuff till, like, after the episode.
Turt
I think the episode was recorded before, too.
Claudia
More. What they were trying to say is, like, we're not going to be doing like a tea filled episode. We're not going to be Sierra spilling the beans. Like, you know, making the most of this moment. Like, I think they addressed the situation and how they felt about it, but they're not about to like, make their bones off of what happened because that's their friend. So I didn't feel like that was shade towards anyone.
Turt
Yeah, I think they made it clear that their, like, feet were firmly planted on Team Sierra. I don't think anybody thought otherwise. And I think people were also kind of tuning in to hear Hannah because this whole thing, even though she's not on the show, like, has been very vindicating for her. I see a lot of people, like resurfacing clips from season and it was actually like, they were so much meaner to her than I even remember. Like, I remember a couple of the core fights. Like, just because he talks to you, like, that doesn't mean he can talk to me like that. But, like, I think at least I would have been tuning in for that too. And so she spoke very briefly, just being like, you know, remember everything you see on tv, I think kind of season. And I think she said this before, it was like very heavily edited. And so a lot of the things that she was accused of, like, she actually didn't even do. So it's just like, you know, she's sleeping well tonight.
Claudia
It's so weird to watch everything now, like, through this lens of like, because this whole time Amanda's always been like the cool girl. She's always been married. So it's just like not threatening. And it's. If she's like, not a not just
Turt
say, I don't agree.
Claudia
No, I know. That's how it felt now. It's like, of course you could be married and threatening and if you're touching your man, you're holding Craig's thigh under the table like, what the are you doing? And now all of this stuff is starting to come to light. But I felt like she got a pass for so many years because she was married and she is this season so flirty with Ben and she went skinny dipping with Ben and like, that's weird. But like, oh, she's married. You're crazy for even thinking that.
Turt
And now she's sort of like a
Claudia
hippie, like right now watching it all back, like, knowing that she's capable of like doing something like this in this way. Because I think also when we talk about like the, the thing that she's done, it's like dating Wes, I think there is a world in which she could have dated him and it come off better than the way that she went about it. And we'll find out how Sierra found out about it. Because, of course, if you take, like, she just got divorced at the end of the day, like, Wes and Sierra dated for about six months two years ago. Like, it's not like she could have never went after him, period.
Turt
Right. If she had waited and done it. Right. Like, maybe they wouldn't be friends anymore, but it wouldn't be this world ending scandal.
Claudia
Agreed. But so now watching everything, in hindsight, like, oh, maybe she is overly flirty and that isn't appropriate. And just because she's married, like, that doesn't mean that she's not, like, a woman.
Turt
It's not even the flirty thing. That's, like, to me, so weird. I think, like, she's actually just like a mean girl. And I feel like we talked about it with Lexi and that was like a microcosm, just like a very small example. I think she's sort of always been accused of, like, really not being friendly to the new girls. And that's definitely true. And I think with Lexi, like, I would love to hear from Lexi, because I think that a lot of the girls. But, like, Amanda specifically being, like, yes, he's my brother. Like, I think that that is a pattern of hers, like, not being, like, a girl's girl, even though that's sort of been like her brand trademark. Yeah, yeah. But she was not cool to Lexi. She was not cool to Jules. She was not cool to Hannah. So it definitely is a pattern.
Claudia
Yeah. But I just feel like she got away with so much. No one was really looking at her because definitely because she is married, because everything with Kyle, and she was always the victim in the Kyle situation that no one ever said anything, like, cross about her. So now, like, watching everything back and it's like, it was literally on TV. She's at. dinner in the summer house and she's holding Craig's hand. And now all this stuff is starting to resurface with Craig. Did you see that? Like, and no. Oh, that, like, she was over with Craig. Like, overly flirt. Like, like holding his hand at dinner. One, like, there's a snap or an Instagram story where it looks like she's, like, kissing his face. I don't think anything happened between them. Some people are taking it. No, of course, no. You know, that sort of girl who's overly flirty with your man and that's your best friend. And it's like. It's not like she's making moves on him, but, like. Like, keep your hands to yourself. What's wrong with you? It's so inappropriate. But no one was ever looking at her. And I don't know now I can't, like, remember, like, what I heard from, like, primary sources versus, like, secondary drama channels. But, like, someone was saying that Paige said that she noticed it with Craig. I don't know if Paige said that herself. And that she started to, like, back away with Amanda from Amanda, like, because of that.
Turt
Wow. Oh, my. That's actually really crazy.
Claudia
And there are scenes from the show. There's one, of course, particular where her and Craig are sitting next to each other at the dinner table. And they're like hands. Their arms are intertwined.
Turt
I need my TikTok algorithm to show me that Amanda and Craig. Amanda and Craig. Amanda and Craig touching under the table. Summer house. And so the version of events that's going on around the timeline is actually pretty accurate because there was this rumor about, like, a video something. So what I have heard is very similar to what people are saying, which is that, like, Sierra sort of figured it out based on a couple of things. Like a gut, like just that sort of womanly, wild, find my friends. You know, Amanda being in West's neighborhood a lot and then stopping, sharing her location, which is just a telltale sign. And then Sierra, I heard, was reached out to by like, a follower fan of the show, being like, you know, I live in their neighborhood and I have a video.
Claudia
Like, she can see West's apartment.
Turt
And so she was like, send it to me. Sarah said that. And the girl was like, no, I can't. It's graphic. And I think the girl is like a lawyer is what I heard. So, like, she knows that, like, actually sending content like that is illegal. So Sierra met up with her because she was like, I just. I know it's true. Like, I have a feeling and watch the video. I guess it was somebody in their neighborhood. They were, like, making out on a couch, like, straddling. Just what I heard. And all alleged. All alleged. I'm like, scared. And somebody who, like, lives in the neighborhood can see through their windows. And that's what Sierra watched. And then the rumors started to.
Claudia
She did not hear from Amanda, like, separately.
Turt
That's awful.
Claudia
Really up and crazy that you're not, like, you don't have privacy in your own home.
Turt
I completely agree. That's terrible. I guess this person must know that, like, I don't know whose Apartment. It was that, like, Amanda Petula lives in my neighborhood or something like that.
Claudia
Yeah, yeah.
Turt
So she didn't say anything. And then the rumors started to come out, and Amanda waited, like, a decently long time. And at this point, Sierra knows she's seen the video. I think she waited, like, a day or two to be like, oh, by the way, like, Wes and I are just friends. And Sierra was like, well, you know, friends can hook up. Like, that's possible. And Amanda says, like, no, no, no. And Sierra says, like, just. She's like, have you guys hooked up? She knows that they have, and she's giving Amanda a chance to, like, be honest. And Amanda said no. And that was, like, one of the last times they ever spoke. I don't know if they ever spoke about, like, again.
Claudia
Damn. Like, so that's really the worst way to handle it. Right?
Turt
All the ways it could have gone.
Claudia
Yeah.
Turt
Getting caught.
Claudia
Yeah. Because I do think, like, say, west and Amanda discover that they have feelings for another. Romantic feelings that they want to pursue. Like, I think there's a way that they could have gone about it where it wouldn't be like this and it wouldn't be so terrible.
Turt
In the trailer for the remainder of the season, it looks like there is more, like, romantic storylines between west and Sierra, which makes this whole thing even worse because a lot of people are
Claudia
like, oh, and then it was a
Turt
couple of months relationship from two years ago. But no, it seems like the summer, it, like, sad. Still is an entanglement.
Claudia
I also heard that, like, a couple weeks ago that CRM west, like, had hooked up.
Turt
Oh, that would be that.
Claudia
That's just what I heard, like, from God knows where.
Turt
I need Andy Cohen to lock the in. You know what I mean? Yeah, I know.
Claudia
He.
Turt
He really does, like, thrive in moments like this. I do think sometimes he, like, really phones it in with his job. Like, but, like, Scandal, I think there are moments, you know, Luann's dui. There are moments when he locks in, and I'm hoping, like, I need him to be fully researched.
Claudia
He definitely do it all. He definitely is. They're going to be filming the reunion soon, which is crazy timing.
Turt
It's also crazy because even with Scandival, I feel like before the reunion was aired and before they aired. Yeah, before they aired the reunion, we heard from, like, a lot of people. They went on podcast. We have heard from nobody.
Claudia
Yeah.
Turt
Everyone's being, like, very hot. Shush. They're, like, saving it.
Claudia
Yeah.
Turt
Which is very smart.
Claudia
But I remember with Scandal, like, it was like Lala and Sheena and they had said, like, Ariana gave them their blessing to, like, go with ham with it.
Turt
It.
Claudia
And one, like, I don't think that Sierra is, like, really like that. I think she's, like, much more. I don't think so either. But two, if you think about it, like, people from Summer House don't really have a lot of podcasts. Like, like, Vanderpump rules. Every single person has a podcast. Yeah, it's like breathing, but on Summer House it's just, I mean, gig squad and.
Turt
But that's not Summer House anymore.
Claudia
Right. And now Carl, but he's a mess, so who knows if he definitely, like, has, like, episodes like, coming out that are, you know, it's not pop culture. It's like, sit down. It's not interview. It's interview.
Turt
I don't think we're going to be getting, like, a Sierra and call her daddy moment.
Claudia
No, I don't think so either. I don't think. I don't think that's really, like, who she is.
Turt
Correct.
Claudia
So also, rumor is that Rihanna is playing matchmaker for Sierra and setting her Jordan.
Turt
Okay, so Dumal was like, basically, Rihanna's really upset. Ariana unfollowed Amanda and has been like, in.
Claudia
Rihanna's a mess.
Turt
We know. Literally, I know that we, like, we know that confirmed that she unfollowed. But the rumor is that she messaged Sierra and is, like, trying to set her up with, quote, an A list actor and every who just won an award. That's. It's not gonna be Jordan.
Claudia
But can I just say, like, why couldn't Rihanna set Sierra up with Michael B. Jordan, like, two weeks ago? Like, why does she have to have her heart broken and her friendship ruined, like, to get a little.
Turt
Because it's not Rihanna's job. Like, you know, like.
Claudia
But I don't know. I just feel like she has seen
Turt
an injustice and she's doing everything in her power to make it right.
Claudia
She could have set her up with Michael B. Jordan.
Turt
Any time I need Michael B. Jordan to lock the fuck in and go on a date with her. Like a very public date. I don't care if they don't even talk. Okay.
Claudia
Of course.
Turt
Also,
Claudia
Jesse Solomon is turning into the Tom Schwartz of the situation.
Turt
That's so funny that you said that. I thought the same thing because what
Claudia
did he know when.
Turt
Right?
Claudia
He's just like this silly, goofy dude. He keeps posting his song.
Turt
Jackie. I could not stop singing it all all weekend. I think I'll stop It's such a bad song, and he's such a loser.
Claudia
I kind of love it.
Turt
I need to know. People are, like, really convinced that he knew something. He's definitely Tom Schwartz of this situation. He is.
Claudia
It's just so funny.
Turt
And he keeps responding to comments like, team Sierra. Like, okay, duh.
Claudia
Yeah, but. So you're gonna stop being friends with us?
Turt
No. Wes was also spotted getting on a plane, and then I was pulled for that either.
Claudia
That's like, your best friend.
Turt
Yeah. I need this reunion, like, injected into my veins. Like, there's not enough.
Claudia
Yeah.
Turt
You know, Like, I need more.
Claudia
Yeah. So that's the latest. It's just. It's just crazy.
Turt
It's really crazy.
Claudia
Are you ready?
Turt
Bingo. Stop. I just want to say, so we don't forget title. Rihanna's a mess.
Claudia
Are you ready for our next story? It's always sad to move on, but
Turt
it is, like, I don't care about anything else.
Claudia
I know, but we did once care about this next subject, which I do feel bad for them. They're doing anything to stay in the headlines. The secret lives of Mormon Watts lives.
Turt
Oh, this is your life. Mormon wives.
Claudia
But, you know.
Turt
But she doesn't want to film, but she's not filming.
Claudia
Jesse Draper was spotted out with Marciano on a day. Or it says on a date, but who knows what they were actually doing? Maybe they're doing business together, but probably on a date. I think also, like, for the buzz. Like, I do feel like they're being overshadowed by West Mandeval, but I think that that's, like, an okay thing. They don't always need to be, like, the number one story. It was getting a little scary out there. Like, let us take a beat.
Turt
I also need to officially hand in my resignation as, like, a blind defender of Jesse Draper, because I cannot defend this type of behavior. First of all, that guy's such a bad guy. He's such a loser, and he's not handsome. So, like, even for clicks, like, to ever be in the same room as him again is, like, a diabolically bad choice.
Claudia
Yeah. Like, the sky almost ruined your life and told a lie that could have ruined your life and made you look like a liar. And, like, I don't understand how you could ever really, like, you could forgive and move past. You don't have to hold a grudge, but, like, to let someone in again to sit down with them face to face, even, like, pretend like you're dating like, that just.
Turt
That's a.
Claudia
That's not a good look. No.
Turt
And now it's got me thinking, like, maybe Demi was, you know, on to something.
Claudia
Which is what?
Turt
I don't know. But like, this is such a nutty ass behavior.
Claudia
Yeah.
Turt
I don't know. I really hate this because up until
Claudia
this point, like play, like put like almost like scripting a story here. Like she leave. You know what I mean? Like, I don't think her feelings are really involved with Marciano. I feel like she's just. No, she's, you know, but to even storyline along. But, like, that's not a good move for your character in this story.
Turt
Yeah.
Claudia
Yeah. Also, Dakota is going to be edited out of Vanderpump Villa after the domestic violence investigation involving Taylor Frankie Paul. So he will not be a part of the upcoming season of Vanderpump Villa. As we know from Secret Lives that all the dad talk went.
Turt
They took this big trip.
Claudia
Vanderpump Villa Dakota, I think was a central storyline because he hooked up with someone and he's actually going to be edited out of the season.
Turt
And so, yeah, I actually don't find that helpful because I think that it would add a lot of color to their story, you know, because we're always seeing it like everything thus far has been like Taylor's, you know, poor behavior. And I think that we'd really see an ugly side of him at that where he was like hooking up with a girl in the bathroom and then calling Taylor and telling her about it, you know, like, so I feel like almost in a way they're kind of protecting him.
Claudia
Yeah. But okay, let me ask you this. Like, last week, Unwell announced that he's going to be part of their games, and we didn't like that either. But that's already filmed too.
Turt
But I think it could have been edited out of that. Like, that doesn't like, I don't think that plays into their storyline at all. Taylor and Dakota. I just, like, I. I have personally stopped caring about these people. Do you know what I mean?
Claudia
Actually, the Unwell thing filmed a couple months ago. Like, sort of more recent to whenever, like, things started really going south for Taylor and Dakota. Maybe.
Turt
Yeah.
Claudia
But like, there will.
Turt
The show is all about the game, right? It's not about their lives.
Claudia
I don't know. He's probably hooking up with someone scary. Is he ever not?
Turt
That's what's so crazy. Because the craziest part of the whole Taylor and Dakota thing is that Dakota is like a certifiable uggo. Like, he is not even cute.
Claudia
You Think he's ugly?
Turt
Yes. Like, with a capital U. I've never noticed. And it's so crazy when, like, ugly people get under the skin of beautiful women.
Claudia
Ugly?
Turt
No, no. I actually think. Do you remember the website, ugly people.com?
Claudia
like, I can't see people anymore. You know? I see who they are. Me, too, but I'm trying.
Turt
Maybe I'm seeing his insides on. No, but I do believe he's ugly. I remember when he first came onto the show. Taylor is so pretty, and she's got, like, a perfect body, and it's just, like, they don't make girls like that, you know? And I'm like, who is this, like, literal hobo she picked up on the side of the road? I remember thinking, like, he's so ugly.
Claudia
Oh, that's so funny. I don't think he's.
Turt
And I just think that's, like, an unspoken part of this whole thing, like, how an ugly man, like, did all that. He's not in good shape. Like, he's ugly. He's got fake teeth. Do you know what I mean?
Claudia
No. Like, I.
Turt
And his insides are truly, truly ugly.
Claudia
See, I don't know what he looks like, but I feel like.
Turt
Jackie, let me tell you, he's ugly. I feel like he's him for what he truly is, which is ugly.
Claudia
That is so funny. Do you think.
Turt
Sound off in the comments. Is Dakota Mortensen ugly? Oh, funny. Funny stuff.
Claudia
Do you think west is handsome? Like, do you feel the same way about West? Like, how is all these girls ready tripping over West?
Turt
I'm so. I'm so glad you brought that up. West is also a certifiably ugly person, completely objectively. But Wes has a few things that Dakota does not possess. Like, west has an amazing personality. Clearly, Dakota is no conversationalist. West has a lot of confidence. He carries himself, like, in his clothes, how he walks, how he talks, and that's attractive to women. There are things that make you attractive outside of looks. He's got, like, a cool job, you know? Yeah. Dakota, There is nothing even remotely attractive about him. He doesn't talk cool. He doesn't walk cool. Like, there's nothing cool or attractive about him. West has a lot of things about his looks and his vibe that make up for the fact that I think he's just, like. If we're just talking, like, looks, like I was looking at his face, like, in a doctor's office, you know, I would say that's not a hot, attractive person.
Claudia
What's so crazy is that when Jesse and Wes came into the house, like, two or three summers ago. If you had told.
Turt
It's like, this hot guy and his little friend.
Claudia
Like, if you told us this one is gonna be the one to destroy the house.
Turt
And Jesse, like, can't get arrested. He's in love with everybody, and nobody's in love with him. And he's six feet tall. Like, that's what's so funny. It's not even about. Looks like. It's about so many things, like how you carry yourself.
Claudia
You know what?
Turt
I think maybe I'll start being me. Literally. Same.
Claudia
Are you ready?
Turt
Jesse Solomon started following me on Instagram.
Claudia
Oh, my gosh. Do you have anything you want to say to him?
Turt
Guess I'll start falling in love.
Claudia
He doesn't even want to fall in love. Like, seriously.
Turt
It's so true.
Claudia
Because you had a perfect option right
Turt
in front of you with Lexi.
Claudia
He's so full of. Agreed.
Turt
I hate liars.
Claudia
Liar.
Turt
And Jesse is not ugly. Jesse is actually, by all definitions, handsome. I actually think his personality and his vibe and how he carries himself makes him uglier.
Claudia
Yeah. Yeah.
Turt
He's the opposite of Wes.
Claudia
When he came into the house, like, he was, like, tall.
Turt
The hot one.
Claudia
Yeah. Yeah. But now he's just, like, goofy.
Turt
Like a joke. I'm being mean. I'm sorry.
Claudia
Are you ready for our next story? Switching gears, one number three.
Turt
Yeah.
Claudia
Haley Seinfeld has welcomed her first baby with husband Josh Allen.
Turt
Literally. And she did it in the most US way ever. Patreon.com Haley Steinfeld.
Claudia
Her sub stack titled Special delivery. She said, our baby girl has arrived. We're feeling incredibly grateful and blessed in savoring these early moments. Thank you so much for the love and well wishes.
Turt
Did we get a name?
Claudia
We did not get a name. Drop the name. Drop the name.
Turt
Yes. I need to know her name.
Claudia
I feel like it's gonna be Rose Claudia. I was gonna say the same thing.
Turt
Really?
Claudia
Yeah.
Turt
Yeah. Oh, man. That'd be crazy if it was. I feel like people would think we had, like, insider information.
Claudia
Rose Allen, because she's your best friend. A couple of New York girls out here with babies, energy.
Turt
I need to be friends with Hilly Seinfeld, like, so bad. Like, New York girls. I'm cracking up. She's from living in Buffalo.
Claudia
She's from Buffalo. That's not much bigger than Mainsville.
Turt
She's from Pensacola. That's not much bigger than Maysville. I was robbed of that part. Real toasters. Now the lore.
Claudia
Claudia auditioned for Law and Order. Svu. And that was the line that she
Turt
had to audition with is being like, not the line. I, by the way, I did a whole scene. I could recite it.
Claudia
She was like a local girl jealous of the influencer in her town and killed her.
Turt
I know. And I set up like a another influencer. I was like, catfishing and I was like, yeah, I really like it when I get, like, choked and slapped and like. And like, this girl got like. Because, no, I didn't do it, by the way. I didn't get the part. Like. But she is from Pennsylvania. But it was all because I'm jealous. She's from Pensacola. That's not much bigger than Maysville. I couldn't, like, master the accent at all. Like, I'm not an accent person. Every time I do an accent, I end up like, Jamaican. She's from Ben Sekola, you know.
Claudia
Yeah. Well. Mazel to the Allens.
Turt
Mazel to the Allens.
Claudia
Are you ready for our next story?
Turt
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Claudia
Our next story, Blake Lively sexual harassment suit against her co star Justin Baldoni has been gutted by a judge. So in a ruling issue on Thursday, Judge Lewis Lyman threw out 10 of the 13 claims against Live in her lawsuit, including claims of harassment, defamation, and conspiracy. He allowed three claims to proceed to a trial, including claims of breach of contract, retaliation, and aiding and abetting in retaliation.
Turt
So this was actually a win for Blake Lively. I know it doesn't sound like that. And everyone's going to be like, claudia, you're a delusional Blake Lively. Stan. But she released a statement about it too. The whole thing they were trying to prove with, like stealing the movie was, can you sue for sexual harassment if like you're the boss, right? And like, so she was not. So they, they ultimately decided that she was like a contractor and that's why her claims were thrown out. Although the judge did say she did supply sufficient evidence. So I know it doesn't sound like it, but this actually was a win for Blake Lively. And she, she released a statement being like, I'm, I'm like, I'm thrilled that
Claudia
I put together a 13 piece lawsuit. And 10 of it was certainly.
Turt
And 10 got thrown out. Yeah. Good, because it's the one you got.
Claudia
That's the one I really wanted things.
Turt
And it's crazy that this thing hasn't even started.
Claudia
I know. Next March.
Turt
Next March?
Claudia
Yeah. Isn't it next year?
Turt
I don't know. Was it this March or is it now?
Claudia
I think it was. Wait, maybe it was this. I think it was this march and that was like this was the first thing coming down. And it's exactly what you want, right? All the time and money she spent with lawyers putting together 13, she must be spending. She wanted 10 in the garbage.
Turt
They must be spending millions on legal. Like, I can only imagine. Thank God that they are so rich.
Claudia
Thank God. Timber thrown in the garbage.
Turt
And Justin is being backed by like a billionaire. So, like, because it's his studio.
Claudia
That's. That's the defendant. It's Wayfarer. It's not even him specifically. It's the studio.
Turt
Yeah. What a waste of money for them both to be ended up, like, to
Claudia
ruin each super hated.
Turt
No. And like. Yeah, like, no one's coming out on top here.
Claudia
No. No. But I'm so happy for her that 10 were thrown away. That sucks for him.
Turt
Yeah, sucks for him.
Claudia
Are you ready for a fifth and final story?
Turt
I am. Like, if it's not about West Van de Vol, I don't really care.
Claudia
I know you won't really care, but I do think it might inspire like an emotional reaction because.
Turt
Okay, let's get emo.
Claudia
Kylie Kelsey is big mad. She has a fiery response to questions about Taylor and Travis's wedding. So Kylie Kelsey did her podcast and posted a clip about her response to people who are asking her about details about Travis and Taylor's wedding. She said to literally everybody I know, it usually comes from a good place. Not always, but quit asking me about. Quit asking me and my mother in law about upcoming nuptials. Nobody's telling you anything. I don't have any details. She repeated that she had no details multiple times. She said, I have none. Stop asking me. Stop asking my mother in law being creeps in the airport. Ew. Here's the thing. Even if I did have any information, I'm not telling you. That's private information between family A and B. See your way out.
Turt
Kylie Kelsey is always yelling at the people who listen to her podcast.
Claudia
Well, no, in this one she's like adjusting TMZ about the.
Turt
I know.
Claudia
She's always yelling.
Turt
Yeah, I. I want to say that Like, I really don't, you know, Like, I, I have. I always feel like Kylie, Kelsey's like, yelling at invisible people on her podcast. She's like, stop telling women C sections aren't real. Birth. It's like, nobody says no.
Claudia
And like, the only person who would say that is the biggest loser, you know, is no one who's actually given a platform in, like polite society. Like, that's not something that needs to be debunked in.
Turt
She's always going on France and the comments are like, yes, sister. And it's like, these aren't real things that are happening. And if they are, they're like, so obviously not serious. Yeah. So it's like, yeah, I'm sure she gets paparazzi. And it's like, even in the Chloe Lamar documentary, like, when there was like, rumors that Lamar was like, addicted to crack, but he was still like a functioning member of society. And the Lakers, you would see these cameras and it was like, chloe is Lamar addicted to crack? Chris is Lamar. And then like, when he was actually like in the hospital recovering from an overdose, the most vile questions, right? Like, Chloe is the market to die from crack. Like, just insane. Like, and so obviously it's terrible. It's just a part of like the
Claudia
just ask you about, like a wedding. It's really not that.
Turt
Not that big of a deal.
Claudia
Always arguing, like, very obvious truths. Truths.
Turt
Yes. And with like invisible people.
Claudia
Like, like, like, you know, selling it as like a hard truth that we all know and selling it as like
Turt
an empower, empowering moment.
Claudia
No. And like a controversial hot take.
Turt
Yeah.
Claudia
Because separate from like, this, her whole
Turt
thing is not gonna lie. Not gonna lie. Stop asking me about. It's like, girl, no one thinks you're gonna tell us. It's just part of being a celebrity for the wedding.
Claudia
Like, it's not even like the crack. Yeah. There are certain questions in the airport that are thrown to celebrities that are so inappropriate. But like, like, yeah, we're all just like, excited for the wedding. And we know that we don't want
Turt
you to say it's 7 o' clock on Saturday. Here are the coordinates of the longitude and latitude.
Claudia
Okay.
Turt
It's just fun.
Claudia
Yeah. What do you think Taylor thinks about this clip?
Turt
I could see Taylor loving it and just being like, yeah, that's my sister in law defending me, defending our family, defending Donna, like, for. I know that. Like, I know that Kylie. I know that Kylie before Taylor and Travis was like a really beloved member of her community.
Claudia
Yeah.
Turt
But you know, she has this Huge podcast. Because now, like, the family has become so famous because. Largely in part due to Taylor. Other things, too. So, like, she just, like, refuses to sort of, like, get on board with that.
Claudia
Yeah.
Turt
And if it's, like, annoying. So just stop talking about it. You know, she always claims that she hates the tabloids, and every time she talks about it, it's another headline.
Claudia
We really only talk about what she's saying when she's talking about Taylor, but she doesn't want us to talk about her talking about Taylor, and so she should just not talk about it, because that is always going to be a headline.
Turt
But I do feel like a lot of people tune into the podcast, like, to hear glimpses of that. They do it to new heights, too.
Claudia
No, they do it to new heights. I don't think they do it to her podcast. I really don't. Because, like. Like, that's the antithesis of her.
Turt
Who she is. Yeah. And, like, we know we're getting nothing.
Claudia
Yeah. So I don't think that's, like, what her fans are looking for, honestly. Maybe they are looking for her to, like, tell off tmz, though. Maybe they like that. Yeah, they probably.
Turt
Like, I just feel like that's just, like, a tale as old as time. Like, such an old trope. And this is not a hill worth dying on. They're not asking you, like, you know, the color of Jason's pubes. They're talking about, like, a fun, famous wedding. Like, it's that you happen to be at the center of. Like, it's really not a big deal. Like.
Claudia
Yeah, but I don't know.
Turt
You know what I would say? You know what I would need to. You know what I'd say? You need to calm down, please. No, you're being too loud.
Claudia
No, please don't say that.
Turt
I am dying to know if my car is outside. Like, I just know it's not.
Claudia
Okay, well, we can wrap it up. Those were the past five stories. You needed to know them. We'll get back on track this week with Dear Toasters Tomorrow.
Turt
I apologize to everyone. Like, I kept kicking it down the field, and then I forgot that, like, it was the last day of the week for Passover. The DTQ was, like, riotous.
Claudia
No, but also, it was West Mandeval. Like, you guys, we can't be held
Turt
responsible for the events that occur during something as historic as West Mandeval.
Claudia
Like, it is what it is.
Turt
It is what it is.
Claudia
And I do hope the DTQ are all Patreon members, because we do deer toasters. Like 50 minutes of deer toasters on the patreon. So like, if you're ever like craving a little DT in your queue, head over to patreon.com the toast.
Turt
I am craving a little DT in my key.
Claudia
Okay, why don't you go running to the toe center? Okay.
Turt
What?
Claudia
Run to the towing yard. You have to go get your car.
Turt
I know. What's it called? Like the junkyard. I know that it's not gonna be there. I'm so afraid it was such a bad parking job.
Claudia
Okay, you need to go find out.
Turt
Love you guys so much. Thank you so much for listening to the toast and Monday morning show where we deliver the fast five stories I need to do every Monday through Friday and YouTube. So you're watching us on YouTube. Please feel free to subscribe. Give us video thumbs up. Also podcast can be found. So it's about a vaccine sister public video castbox, all place web listen, podcasting and weekly doll we are okay. Love ya.
Claudia
Love you. Post on your Instagram if your car is there.
Turt
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Hosts: Jackie Oshry (“Jax”) & Claudia Oshry (“Turt”)
Main Theme: Post-Passover catch-up, the latest West Mandeval (Summer House) scandal, reality TV recaps, and all things pop culture with snarky commentary and signature sisterly banter.
Jackie and Claudia are back in their home studios after Passover, catching up on life, major Bravo/summer reality TV drama (especially the “West Mandeval” scandal), and celebrity headlines. The main focus is dissecting the Summer House cheating/relationship saga (“West Mandeval”) and its repercussions for cast relationships, alongside quick commentary on The Masked Singer, Lamar Odom’s documentary, and recent celebrity gossip. The tone is playful, gossipy, and insightful, with memorable quips peppered throughout.
This is the episode’s centerpiece and is discussed in detail throughout.
[36:30] Claudia: "Rihanna's a mess. But can I just say, like, why couldn't Rihanna set Sierra up with Michael B. Jordan, like, two weeks ago? Like, why does she have to have her heart broken and her friendship ruined, like, to get a little—"
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