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Good morning, girlies.
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It's the Toast.
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It's Jackson Claude and we're your host.
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It's your favorite show.
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The best five things you need to know.
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We'll start your day off swirly. It's the Toast.
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They sound amazing.
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Welcome back to the Toast and happy Tuesday. I'm choosing and I choose you today, tomorrow, and forever.
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That's so beautiful. Co chair. And I'm so glad to see this sunny environment has influenced a sunny disposition.
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Absolutely. Lots to be excited about today. 1. We're together. We're together. Family is everywhere.
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We're together again in studio. So if you're listening, like, feel free
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to watch your girls swirl around.
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Even though if you watch every day, like, it does sort of feel like we're together, it's always a pargy viewing experience. But this is just extra fun.
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It's beautiful. It's lots to be excited about today. One major launch for the Spritz Society team. As you can see, the boxes behind us have changed, you guys. We teased sort of like we were over hyping, but I do think that the product and the launch, like, demands the hype that we gave it. We are launching a brand new product.
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I don't think we overhyped. I literally think that's actually a flaw
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of ours that we don't hype enough.
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We don't hype because this is like
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an industry changing product. It is a skinny Spritz. That's our new launch. As you can see the boxes behind me. It's a Skinny Spritz. It's the classic Italian spritz that you know and love. But we made it skinny. That's right. It's 100 calories. No added sugar. Par Delicious definitions like, Skinny Girl Summer is here. Spritz Girl Summer is here.
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No added sugar.
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Zero.
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None. Not one.
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Like, it's. Pour it over a glass of ice. Like, it looks like a spritz.
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Yeah. So we're having a Skinny girl Summer.
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It's available exclusively at Target. We filmed a commercial. It's on the Spritz Instagram. Like, it's hilarious and yeah, sort of like big things happening here over at Toast hq.
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Watch this space. Grab a spritz and make it a skinny.
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Don't grab a spoon. Grab a spoon. Travis bits.
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Yeah, I love that.
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So many things I want to talk to you about from yesterday's episode.
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Okay.
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The first is that I got a lot of feedback about who Jo Ellen looks like. I do.
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And I actually, like, feel bad for Joellen that we, like, opened it's the
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rudest thing you could do.
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Or it's like Claudia's worst nightmare. Like, everyone sound off with who you think Jo Ellen looks like.
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But it's like, bothering me so much. And while I don't think anybody really
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got it 100%, nobody scratched the itch that I'm thinking.
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The most popular answer and the one I see the most is Topanga Danielle Fishel.
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So?
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So I agree she does look like Topanga, but it must be somebody in my personal life, because nobody really got it.
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Well, Joellen herself has said that she looks like a mix of Topanga and Teresa Giudice, which she doesn't look like Teresa Judice. Yes, she does. Look at the cast photo. Look at the cast photo.
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Oh, yeah, I got a new iPad, everyone, because I left mine in New York. And, like, we always need more iPads at Toast hq. And I just want to say I spent the morning setting up an iPad, and I wish everybody who, like, who was a part of making this iPad and the setup system, I wish them the worst things in their life. Like, seriously, the way my morning was fucking ruined, having to get my Apple ID and setting up a passcode, and then, like, all my texts got on here, even though I explicitly said, don't transfer anything. Miserable morning. Sorry, what was I doing on my. What was I doing?
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Look at the cast photo for Rory, because she does look like Teresa. Dude, there's a sprinkle of Teresa in there. Trey. Someone said she looks like America Ferreira. Claudia didn't like that call, but I
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did her cast photo, like, with all the women or a lot.
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Some people say she looks like Olivia Ashrae. Oh, okay.
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She does have Olivia ashtray sprinkled into her.
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She's like.
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And I just wanna say I don't feel bad about these celebrity doppelgangers because everyone we're mentioning is pretty. Like, she. Jo Ellen is pretty.
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Yeah, Yeah, I guess it's like, not
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like a. Oh, in the cast photo, she is giving Trey.
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Judy.
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Che.
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Trey.
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Yeah, they all look like Dolores.
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Yeah. And then, like, Alicia and Liz do sort of look like each other until you watch more.
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Did we say that Kelsey looks like Olivia Culpo?
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Other people have said it. For me. She's Gal Gadot. And in the episode I was watching last night, from the angle that I was seeing her face, she was giving Kim Kardashian. You ever got a good. Do you ever get a glimpse of Kim with her?
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No, but actually, Jo Ellen is also giving Kim.
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Interesting.
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It's insane how they all look the same. Like.
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Yeah, yeah. Did you watch any more last night?
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No. I started the viral series off campus. Have you heard about it?
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I've heard, like, that's all I've heard. Viral series off campus, porn.
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The funny thing is, is like, oh, one of the porn books that I didn't read got made into a TV show. And I'm watching and I'm like, I think I read this book. Checked my Goodreads this morning. I did read this book, but I don't have any recollection of, like, her being a music major. I thought she was an ice skater, but then I think that's deal breaker or icebreaker that's they should turn into. So I watched it and like, obviously people are just making it prime.
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Who's in it?
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Nobody you ever know. Except the girl. You're telling me that's not Barbie Ferreira from Euphoria? Like, I couldn't believe what I was seeing. You know, it's got your classic makings. It's getting overhyped, like, just because of the porn. Is the show, like, amazing? No, but, like, I'm starting to fall in love with the characters and, like, it's cute, but it's only something I could watch. While Ben was playing basketball with your husband last night. Cuz if Ben walked in and was watching, like, the actual. Not even the porn, but like, the acting. Like, it's humiliating to be a part of it. Like, I'm ashamed to be watching the show, but I will be finishing it. You ever have one of those shows?
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Yeah, of course.
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Yeah. I just feel like there are some porn shows that are so, like. I think a good example is what's the Daisy Edgar Jones one? Normal people. Was that the show?
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Sure.
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That she did with Paul Mezcal.
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Normal People.
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That was like a beautiful show while also being porn. Oh, my God, I loved it.
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Hayden.
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The show that I'm watching now is, like, legitimately, like, some of the worst acting, the worst everything, Hallmark, the fake college that they go to. Like, it's just like, it's so.
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It's like ABC Family.
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Yes. Oh, yes. Perfect example. But it's good and I like it. And the characters. That guy's really cute, but, like, it's stupid, you know? But I wanted to know, obviously, because I'm a part of a viral show. I had to, like, watch the viral show, you know?
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Yeah.
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It's my job as sort of our viral correspondent.
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Oh, okay.
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There's, you know, product placement. There's a liquid IV product placement. It's sort Of a storyline. I want to say good on Liquid IV for getting involved in a viral show, but in a unique way. Like, obviously, they're all athletes. They're collegiate athletes. So you would think, like, okay, they're having liquid iv, but no, there's a storyline that like, one of the athletes get gets a liquid IV with his sponsorship, but it has to be with his dad, who he has a bad relationship with. Like, it's funny.
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Oh, interesting.
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Yeah. And they're like, you should do the Liquid Ivy sponsorship or with Graham, like, whatever. It's funny.
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It sounds great. Oh, and also, I haven't seen that much of it though, yet. It hasn't like, totally. It's bubbled up to the surface. Like, yeah, you're early on the curve, but I have been hearing like a little bit.
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Yeah.
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But no, as far as like, need to watches for me and I'm like, literally bedtime. Last night was a two hour long fair. It's amazing. Do not watch it that I got to watch any.
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Rory, I will tell you when things like, I told you, you need to watch Rory. You do not.
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No, no, no, I'm not watching that show.
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No. Tonight though is in the City premiere along with Summer. Oh, is it the finale?
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I think so.
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That's exciting.
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That's. It's giving, like, you know, like, I've had enough. I'm ready for Beverly Hills to.
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Absolutely. They had their big event last night. Amanda was there. She'll come.
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Yeah. I mean, they all owe her a huge thank you.
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Enormous.
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Like Lindsay and Kyle. And everyone needs to be sending her flowers because not only did she, like, make this season of Summer House, like, she has solidified that their show that, you know, most shows suck and don't go anywhere and nobody wants to watch them. She has solidified that their show will be a hit. Like, you're welcome.
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Absolutely.
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And I ruined my life for you guys.
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Like, well, she didn't really do it for them.
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Fucking generous.
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She didn't really do it for them. But I.
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So selfless beyond.
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They actually always thinking of others.
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They seriously owe her a thank you. As mad as they are in a
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backwards kind of way. Like, they are all being lifted up
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because of her sins and they all look like heroes. Even though they did not do anything. They all did not do anything. Yeah.
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They just aren't her. So, like, it's good. Exactly. Now I lowkey.
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And they get to like, take the moral high ground.
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Yeah.
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Even though they've. They've sanctioned these sorts of like, incestuous relationships in the house all along. No, except for Lindsay.
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Her crime, like, doesn't really hurt most of them. Like, yes. Sierra and Kyle I'm not talking about. But like, everyone else who's now a hero's a mess.
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Like, Right. Poor Kay.
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And it's like, Carl, you were very much like, on your way out. Like, you were asked to be a part of in the city. You're, like, not bringing that much anyway. So. Yeah, they all owe her a huge debt of gratitude. Aside from the people she actually hurt.
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Yeah. But still, like, you could make the case, like, the pain of, oh, your man and your friend. But then they also say, like, they weren't that close with her in the off season. There's like people saying that. So your man and your friend got together, but you are now set for life.
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Yeah, it's kind of one of those, like, would you rather. Would you rather your man and your guys seriously. Answer. Answer me this.
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Your man and your best co worker.
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Sorry, not your man. A guy you have, like a very toxic history.
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Your. Your ex crush.
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No, Your ex boyfriend, current situation, very toxic. Would you rather like, just he goes. Runs away with like a girl who you're really close with. I wouldn't say that's like your best friend in the whole world, but like someone you're really close with.
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You're a good co worker friend.
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Good co worker friend who like, you see out, not out of the office, but in exchange, like, you get fame and fortune. Like, what do you think?
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Yeah, I mean, personally, I'm going famous.
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Fortune. I don't even want the fame because
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I, like, have my head on straight.
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Right.
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You know?
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Right, right. And I could see that, like, that toxic situationship slash ex boyfriend cycle, like, it's not gonna work out for me in the long run anyway, so I might as well cut my losses and become famous.
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Yeah.
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More famous.
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Also, I was watching Ariana, a little bit of her on watch what happens live. I don't know when she was there or why, but Andy was like saying, you know how Sierra is getting, like the love island, Dancing with the stars. Like, have you given her any advice? And Ariana's like, she doesn't need advice. She's gonna be amazing. But it must be like, a little spooky for Ariana because, like, yes, like, it's exciting that it's happening for someone. They're literally like, following in her footsteps and it's giving, like, out to pasture.
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It's giving the substance. She's Demi Moore and Sierra is Margaret Quayle.
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No, it's giving, like, expired, you know,
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like, there's a treadmill. And it's like, Ariana was going, now Sierra's coming.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's like, if she's doing all the same things Ariana's doing, that means Ariana wouldn't be doing those things anymore. Like, if Sierra is doing after sunset goes well, like, what she's doing. Hosting.
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Yeah. Like, and I do think they should mix up the hosts for love. They do, actually. This is like their fourth or fifth host, so. Yeah.
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So it's like, it's not all great,
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you know, But Ariana has to sit there and be like, I'm so happy, so proud. It's my girl.
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Of course.
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Yeah.
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But I'm just like, that's a little weird. Like, she's gonna take your job, so.
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Absolutely.
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Your job's.
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Your job's. What's next Chicago on Broadway do.
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I don't think she would.
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I don't think she sings or dances. Like, I don't think she has.
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She's doing Dancing with the Stars.
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Oh, oh, oh, wait.
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So, like, if she really impresses everyone,
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but, like, like, you can learn to dance. I don't think you can learn to sing. You can learn to sing better, but if you have no chops. I don't know if she has no
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chops, but is it a really, like, vocal heavy role? Roxy.
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The name on everybody's lips is gonna be Roxy.
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I feel like you could do it because it's like, it's. Yes. You have to sing. You have to just, like, be good at things. You don't have to, like, be incredible and you have to sell tickets. It's more like the ticket selling role.
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You know, I was just watching Speaking of Chicago, a vlog from the actress Danielle Monet. She played Trina Vega in Victorious. And, like, one of her iconic lines from Victorious is like, have you ever heard that audio? It's from Chicago the musical. Turns out she was up for the role of Roxy and she lost it. She shared a whole vlog about how upset she was, Blake. It was like this amazing process, you know, yada, yada. But that would have been huge for, like, for the millennial core.
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Yeah.
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Trina Vega actually playing Roxy when I think she, like, played Roxy in the
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Victorious adaptation at the Academy of Victorious. Right, right.
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Whatever school, Hollywood Arts.
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That would be beautiful.
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We've actually a lot to do today because, of course, like, we're launching a huge business. Like I said, skinny spreads available now exclusively at Target. We have deer to. We have stories I guess that was your TV recap, because I did not watch the new Rory. I will, but it's also, like, I'm kind of feeling stressed because, like, tonight's also, like, the next game and, like,
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and tonight's Summer House in the City.
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I know Ben was, like, making plans for us to go watch, but I don't think I can.
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No, I'm stressed.
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Like, lots of content. And I also haven't even cracked open Brocker's Bell Burden.
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Like, I'm telling you, I brought it
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to Florida with me.
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You're never reading Copper's Bell Burden.
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I have to read Copper's Bell Burden, Hayden Panettiere's memoir. And what was the third book? Oh, someone remind me. I had three books on my nightstand, in my emotional nightstand.
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Do you think you added to your Goodreads?
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Of course not. What was the third book I wanted to read?
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Lena Dunham.
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Oh, yeah.
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I actually really do Coppers Bell Burden.
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This week I'm taking on so much. I started Roary, I have off campus, I have now in the city. Like, it's just a lot. Try being an influencer for a day. Try it.
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Yeah, I don't know how I'm gonna watch all that TV tonight. I know, like, bedtime is just a bloodbath. It's an hours long affair these days. So we'll see.
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We'll say we're doing our best, but
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we, like, actually have to watch Summer House finale end.
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Yeah, of course. So, like, the next game, like, sorry, I'll have to tell Ben. Like, I can't.
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Yeah. And Zach might have to take the lead on bedtime.
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On bedtime, do we get together and watch?
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Or like, the. The boys could get together, do bedtime together whilst watching games and watching the game. And actually, then they could watch in the game with the boys. Like, they could watch a little bit of the night, actually.
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Nice.
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Okay.
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Like, we can go upstairs. Yeah, we just head to the bedroom.
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You know, do our thing.
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All right. Well, I feel adequately prepared if you feel adequately prepared.
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I do feel adequately prepared for the Fast 5 stories that you do need to know.
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Our first story. Today's stories are quite random. Like a lot of programming news. I.
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It's giving. It's giving. Modern TV Guide.
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Yeah, it is. So Ella Enchanted TV series is in the works at Disney plus with Anne Hathaway producing. So a new series is in the work at Disney plus. People confirms that they are in the early stages of developing a new TV series adaptation of Ella Enchanted, based on the 1997 novel of the same name and the movie of the same name, which starred Anne Hathaway and came out in 2004.
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I didn't realize it was based on a.
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Based on a book. Loosely.
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I have a truth I need to share.
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You never saw Ellen Enchanted? You didn't like Ellie?
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I've never seen Ellen Enchanted.
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Oh, that was the truth.
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Oh, my God. Everyone just gasped. Yeah, no, I've never seen it.
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Like, I feel like it's always on.
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It's definitely, like, an E movie we love. I just. It just missed me.
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It's.
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And I get it confused with the Amy Adams one.
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Enchanted.
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Oh, right. I've never seen that either. Isn't that crazy?
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That movie's amazing.
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Which is better?
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Enchanted.
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Like, you're obsessed with one of them.
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Which is it Enchanted.
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Okay.
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And James Marston's in it.
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You're kidding.
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So good.
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You know, James Morrison is, like, in the new season of your Friends and Neighbors, and, like, we're learning more about his character, and he's, like, increasingly just, like, really evil.
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Oh, don't, don't.
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And it's really crazy because, like, he never does evil.
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No, but he's also in that show that was like, oh, my God, Lightning in a bottle. But then dead.
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Wait. Dead to me. Dead to me with Christina Applegate and Linda Cardellini. Such a good show. Did he play someone evil? He also played twins.
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Well, maybe one was good. Yeah. So that was such a good. He has range.
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And you know what? He just took too long to release that last season.
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He's not just Corny Collins, but he is.
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He was too good at Courtney Collins because I'm like, courtney Collins is not an evil arms dealer.
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But that's why he is good to play someone that you is an unsuspecting. Yes. Evildoer.
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Yes, yes.
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But anyways, this is Ella Enchanted, which Anne Hathaway starred in the 2004 movie. It's about like a. A 16 year old who's cursed at birth to obey every command. And it's just like cutesy fairy tale.
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Yeah, I feel like this is kind of a trend we're seeing. Like, we're pre quilling and schmequeling and I don't want to be a hater because I haven't seen this and I don't know. And the L1 looks good. Prime video, but just like bring back Carrie Diaries, you know, ahead of its time.
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Yeah, no, this sounds good. Why is Anne Hathaway working so hard? Like, debt broke?
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She's. Yeah, she's obviously in debt.
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I feel like everyone in the stories today is broke because everybody is working so hard and doing things that they do not need to do when they have a lovely living. They have family.
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Are you talking about the Jonas Brothers?
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I'm talking about the Jonas Brothers, which we'll get to. But like, for Anne Hathaway, seriously, like, she's taking on so many movies right now. Like, great, exciting projects, really classy stuff.
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Yeah, Nothing bad. She hasn't, like, gotten to the point where she's desperate and she's putting out bad jobs.
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Like, why do you want to work so much? Like, why?
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Yeah, it couldn't be me, but I imagine, like, maybe she has, you know, a lot of family that she's supporting or like a gambling addiction. I don't know. Because she is doing a lot and I think that, like, maybe she wants
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a plane or something, which. Yeah, just. I would like to know that. So I, like, what, what motivates Anne Hathaway to work this hard?
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I worry about her because she's kind of fallen into the trope of, like being beloved and then becoming hated because, like, it's just too much of a good thing and it's like a lot of exposure and she's kind of. She's not there yet, but she's doing a lot. And I do feel like when you're doing a lot and you're like so well liked because people just are how they are, like, you will become hated. And I can see her, like falling down that rabbit hole again.
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No, I don't think it won't happen again. It won't happen like that. That's kind of like Taylor, you know, Like, Taylor's never going to get to that place again because she ascending like but when you do burn bright and fast really quickly, it fizzles. Same with like Jennifer Lawrence. That happened too. Like everybody loved her and then like they, everyone like thought it was cool to hate her. And then you get to like a place of just like stability. Yeah. So I don't think she's gonna have it down again. Especially cuz she keeps making quality work and it seems like the world has come to appreciate her.
B
Well, as long as she doesn't cut her hair. Like that's really what the whole thing was. She was so artsy because she didn't burn bright and fast. She actually like really worked.
A
Yes.
B
From Princess of Genovia and then she all the way up to Les Mis at the Oscars. She cut her hair and it's like we could only take so much from celebrities. Like you know, you're giving your speeches and it's just out of touch. Whatever. And you also have a bad haircut. She's now, I think a lot of her like buzz and why people love her is like her fits. Like she's kind of a fashion icon like out of left field and she
A
needs to keep up with more mature. It's not as like flashy as a young person. Like. Yeah, it's kind of nice. It comes with age. It's just like a respect. Respect.
B
Yeah.
A
And you don't turn on respect, you know.
B
Absolutely.
A
So I feel like that's also what's happening to Taylor because she also got that like oh, her awards, her speeches are so phony. Why do you still think like over exposure you're shocked to win everything? Like it's like that's how Ann Hathaway was sort of being. Yeah, I guess people don't like that.
B
Remember when she took her Oscar and she says, I will use this as a weapon to fight self doubt. It's like, girl, get out of here.
A
Maybe it's the self doubt that that keeps her working so hard.
B
Maybe. But she is doing a lot and
A
this is like producing, you know, it's not even acting.
B
Well, she had to. If they were going to do it, they had to like get her stamp of approval. Like it's kind of how Reese is. But she's hello sunshine. Like she's actually making it. I think maybe Anne Hathaway is doing more than just making an in name only producer.
A
No, I think that actually is good credit to the film because it's like even if she doesn't do anything, never shows up for one day. It's like, she's a producer. Like, it feels. Feels like an extension of the movie that was so loved.
B
Absolutely.
A
Okay, fine. So maybe she's just cashing a check here.
B
Yeah. Yeah. Which we love to see. Women in business.
A
Yes. Okay. I just, you know, I worry about her.
B
Where is it gonna be?
A
Disney plus.
B
Oh, of course. Of course. Of course. I like that.
A
Yeah.
B
Disney plus doesn't have, like, a lot of Going home, doesn't have, like, a lot of shows. Like, what do you watch on Disney plus? Like, you watch stuff for your kids and, like, National Geographic.
A
Yeah.
B
But it's like, do you see the new Disney plus show? No. I guess they put it all on Hulu.
A
Yeah. Right? Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Some other people that, like, want to keep working and don't want to go home. The Jonas Brothers are starting a podcast called hey, Jonas. And it's available now.
B
This is really crazy to me, and I don't know why I keep letting the Jonas Brothers surprise me. I don't know if the Jonas Brothers know how famous they are because they're always doing things that are in congress with their level of celebrity. Like, this is a band that sold out multiple nights at MetLife Stadium. Like, that's what Taylor Swift does. I was gonna say that's what Ed Sheeran does. That's what Colby does. And it's like, they don't also do Jonas Con.
A
Well, they don't have to split in three ways.
B
So I do think a lot of what we see from the bros is the fact that they have to split it three ways. And I.
A
So they need three jobs to make one whole income.
B
Correct. And they both have families. Like, they spend a lot, but they all do, like, other side ventures. Like, Nick has tequila, coffee, popcorn.
A
Like, Nick has a solo career. I keep listening to his music in my car.
B
Yeah. I feel like everybody's obsessed with, like, Bruno Mars's debt, debts. And it's like, well, really, I'm not worried about Bruno Mars. He is the biggest artist in the world, like, on a global scale. I actually am worried about the Jonas Brothers. This is very low brow. It's a recession indicator. It's on iHeartRadio. So, like, I get the musical element, but I don't know. It's. It's really. It's worrisome.
A
Well, I want to say there's two ways this podcast could be. There could be. Like, you know, this is cash grab. It's iheartradio. It's like, not like a serious show,
B
but I Heard Radio is also a legitimately bankrupt company. And I just want to say they're not. We, when we were out to market, like with our show, like iheartradio was like making offers way less than everybody else. Like they're broke.
A
Yeah.
B
So I don't think that they're like, like they didn't get like an insane deal.
A
So. But just listen, if they were at serious two ways that this could be
B
going, I just want to say they should have done this at Sirius XM because it would have been less the
A
payday because if you have an audience, you will have money. And also maybe they want to be in good standing with iHeart because they run the radio stations. They need radio for their music career. So like it's all.
B
That's what people do who are like, seriously, one year in the industry.
A
Listen. So either this is like a fake show on iHeartRadio where they like just do like pre recorded, like prerecorded, like nonsense and like games and stupid shit and like nobody's really listening. But think about it for a second. If it were like an actually good show, like, and serious and like they talk about like fatherhood they have on guests. They get like introspective. They talk about brotherhood and family and history. Could be like armchair expert.
B
Yeah. I don't know why, but I don't
A
know which one they're going for and
B
I don't know why. I just don't feel like shows like that are capable of being made when they're at iheartradio. I know that sounds really crazy, but it's all just like kind of corny, buzzy like filler for the radio.
A
Yeah. Aren't Coach on iheartradio last culture?
B
I was like, culture? What is she talking about? Last culture? Yes. And I do feel like that's why they're so popular because they're so different. Like they're act. They are good.
A
Like I was listening to the radio.
B
Oh.
A
When I was in Dallas and I didn't know how to put on music. So I just, I. And I was like scared driving. So I just like stayed on the radio. Claudia. My commute was 25 minutes. I didn't hear one song. But let me tell you, I heard four advertisements for last cult podcast.
C
Right.
B
That's what I'm saying. It's a broke company. Like they just do commercials. Yeah. So I do think that they're like the darlings of iHeartRadio. And I do think they're an extremely popular podcast. And I wasn't Talking about them. Sorry, I didn't realize that they were there. This is not me being shady.
A
I'm saying, like, maybe they could. It's because it's possible to have success there. And. Yeah, and there's obviously they could go anywhere last colch. There's something that keeps them there.
B
Right, right.
A
Something that's true. Maybe it's all those commercials they're getting.
B
I mean, I could use a commercial.
A
Yeah, yeah. No matter. There was four commercials an hour telling, like, relevant listeners to listen to the toast. I think that moves the needle for sure.
B
No, no. And I get, like, the radio aspect of it, but it just feels in congress with their level of celebrity.
A
But I do feel like at their level of celebrity, they could actually have a very successful introspective thing about podcasts
B
is that when done right, even by celebrities, it's career changing if you have a really good one. So.
A
But I don't know if they're doing this with the intention. Are they doing this with the intention of making it really good? I don't know. Or is it just like, to check a box.
B
Give me a list of celebrities who you think are on the same level of fame as the Jonas Brothers.
A
Also, I want to pull. The podcast is available now. Like, I want to see what the description is. What are we doing here at. Hey, Jonas.
B
This. Okay. I just want to say that, like, the list of people that Chat gave me, like, they should have podcasts. Five seconds of summer. I feel like that's insulting to the Jonas Brothers, the chain smokers. I also feel like that's insulting to the Jonas Brothers, Dan and Shay. I also feel like, Like, I feel like Chat actually thinks very lowly of.
A
Or we just think, like, a little higher than Gen Pop, then. Gen Pop.
B
No, I'm telling you, the Jonas Brothers maybe, Like, are they. Are the Jonas Brothers, like, not cool or famous? Like, am I. Do I have a skewed.
A
We definitely are. Are more into the Jonas Brothers than Gen Pop.
B
Really. I feel like.
A
But that does.
B
People who are like Jonas because you're
A
meeting your fellow people like you.
B
But I'm not even like Jonas Cronus. What do they call themselves? Like, Jonistas?
A
Here's the description. Hey, Jonas. Hosted by Kevin, Joe and Nick. It's the Jonas Brothers. You know, musicians, actors, and, well, yes, brothers. Now they're sharing another side of themselves in the playful, intimate, and irreverent way only. They can spend time with the Jonas Brothers here and stay a little bit longer for deep conversations like never before.
B
Okay.
A
Deep conversations.
B
What's the next episode? It's a. Oh, there's just a trailer.
A
There's a trailer and then there's a 13 minutes episode.
B
What is the description of the first episode?
A
This is. Hey, Jonas, join Kevin, Joe.
B
Okay, the same thing. Let's just.
A
Can we listen to, like, a minute?
B
I feel like it's gonna be really produced.
A
Like, getting to a great idea is hard.
B
Skip their ads. Excuse me. We have our own ads. Get out of here. Yeah. Oh, my God. They're not reading their own ads. How many minutes of ads?
C
So how did we. How do we actually come up with the name hey, Jonas?
B
Guys, brilliant question.
C
I think it was on a call about what we should call it, and we were thinking. I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down. Yes. I have a very different memory of this.
B
Ricohost is a lot.
C
Sons of Jonas. It had nothing. Jonas, Jonas, Jonas. I don't think you're. I don't think you're right at all.
B
We were talking about a thing, talking
C
over each other and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, hey, Jonas. And offered it up as a potential title.
B
He's taking credit. He's taking credit. They have a really toxic relationship.
C
Well, thanks, Nick. Mine was just a little bit more exciting as an elaborate story, so. So really, this. I don't get any extra credit? You know, financial podcast points.
A
I just want to say I would love to just sit here and listen to another podcast on our podcast.
B
Yeah, I know, I know.
A
And call it a podcast.
B
Yeah, right?
C
Is that a thing? All right. I feel like everyone in the world had a podcast, so we just felt left out.
A
So we needed honest.
B
We needed the money.
C
Well, I was thinking more that we had a lot of really important things to talk about. That's true.
B
You know, we don't spend enough time
C
with each other as it is, so why not just the space between sound checking the show with a podcast where we have to be together in a closed environment.
A
They're optimizing their schedule.
B
Habit stacking.
A
Habit stacking. I mean, why not make a couple grand in this hour when we're just sitting here taking a poop?
B
Because a couple grand split three ways after taxes and commissions is $3 even more.
C
No, it's a great. It's a good idea. We should. Should definitely do it. Pull a question from the bowl
B
that's low. All right.
C
Just do random questions that have nothing to do with big metal bowl.
B
And I'm sorry, three people is too many for a podcast.
C
I'll take it, Nick. Okay. No, I think it's Nick. We could all answer it too. Maybe not.
A
No, I think we could all.
C
We don't know what's in the bowl. It's great. Nick, this is for you. Nick, do you pee in the shower? Oh, yes, I do. I love.
B
And that's sewing.
A
So it's the first kind of podcast. Yeah.
B
Well, the thing is, I will give them grace. The first episode of the Toast was a show like. Like, you have to give grace. It takes people a couple of episodes to get on their feet. I'm worried about three people, especially three people who I feel like, struggle with. Who's the leader? Who's the middle? Like, and I think Nick thinks it's him. And I. I think that Joe thinks it's him, and I think Kevin thinks it's Joe.
A
But I also feel like Kevin might be feeling like this is my time to shine. I'm the smart one. I'm the one.
B
The fans are grown up. The fans like me. I'm a father.
A
I'm the one who, like, makes good choices and is selfless.
B
Settle down.
A
Puts the baby like. You two are, like, rock star egos. But, like, when it comes to a podcast, you want to hear from the Kevin. It's with the life advice.
B
It's very true.
A
So maybe he's also going to be, like, talking over everyone now. This is his time.
B
Now Kevin is saying me.
A
He doesn't sing, but he can talk.
B
I'm worried about them. I still am worried about them after hearing the first episode, but I just
A
feel like knowing that the first question from the bull is, do you pee in the shower? Confirmed. It's the first type of podcast.
B
It's not deep.
A
It's not the second type.
B
Yeah, they're not opening up a vein and bleeding out.
A
But I mean, also, why do that on the first episode? Like, if you. You don't even know if it's gonna be a success, like.
B
Right, Right.
A
I feel like, give it time. It's not the worst idea. It's not the worst nominees for a podcast. It's really not.
B
No, it's not. But I'm worried about them.
A
And if the recession indicator, if the. If it. If the concept is that we have an hour between soundcheck and the show and, like, they're just sitting there, like, talking and, like, shooting the shit, what they would be doing. And now we're gonna, like, record it. And make money from it. I think that actually works.
B
I do think the live shows will suffer. Like. Like doing a podcast. People think it's nothing like. I'm sorry, you have to. Like, when I get done here, I could take a nap. Like, you really. You're supposed to give. If you're gonna do it right, you give it all. Like, you can't actually. That is the performance, you know, I think that their tour will suffer.
A
Interesting.
B
Yeah. And I will say one thing about them that, you know, that you really cannot knock them for is that they are amazing performers. Like, what they will always have. They should tour forever. Because maybe other financial. I don't know if their new music streams the way it used to, but they will. They have a really big fan base and they can tour forever and, like, make a living from it.
A
They should do Vegas residency.
B
I believe that they did. I believe it was enormously popular because,
A
like, their clientele would go to Vegas. That way they could, like, put their kids in school in Nevada.
B
No, I mean, a lot of people live in la.
A
Oh.
B
And go out to Vegas trying to
A
keep them home, you know, that's what Adele did.
B
She was like. When I went to her show, she was talking about how, like, this is the most amazing work life balance she's ever had because she's in LA all weekend and she. I think, you know, Cesar sends a jet. She jets back and forth every. Every weekend.
A
Yeah, well, no, I meant, like, if they got houses.
B
Oh. They have a Vegas residency that starts tomorrow. Cool.
A
Okay. So we're on the same page.
B
Oh, so maybe it's like a Vegas residency podcast. They didn't make that clear.
A
And maybe the vegan residency is, like, sponsored by a Hyatt radio. But no, but I was saying is, like, they could get houses in Nevada. They could live there.
B
Not everyone wants to do that. Britney Spears did that. I think when you have a residency where you actually perform on the weekdays,
A
like Donnie and Marie.
B
I know, you're right. Because Adele was weekends with Adele, I
A
think, and it was a short stint. I'm saying 20 years. The Jonas Brothers should live in Nevada, put their kids in school, Vegas every night.
B
But when you do that, you have to be okay with, like, you're now entering, like, a season of retirement almost. And I think that some of the egos in that group. Nick is so not down. Nick loves, like, SNL and, like, you know, being, like, swirly.
A
Yeah, Well, I think that it's. I disagree.
B
And Joe is single now. Like, they're not doing that Kevin would do it. That's our stable king right there.
A
No, but his, he, he has deep roots, like where he lives in Jersey. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story, which is some more music news? And I'm glad that people are talking about it because Spotify.
B
Oh my God, this is fucking disgraceful. And I'm sorry. As partners of Spotify, I love you, but undo what you've done.
A
So they say their disco ball icon, which prompted massive user backlash, will go away next week as planned.
B
Okay, so I assumed that it was like a 50th anniversary.
A
No, I'm sorry. Every time I saw that logo, I thought Spotify was downloading on my phone.
B
Yes, of course.
A
And I'm like, why don't I have Spotify?
B
Not only that, but I, I feel
A
like people haven't even noticed. They, like now when we're talking about it, they'll be like, yeah, I saw that. But they didn't even like realize what was happening. I literally had to like get out my magnifying glass to see what the new icon is. And it's like a disco ball. Spotify green ball.
B
So I also thought it was downloading and then I saw it was like a special edition logo and I said, oh, this didn't pass like a user experience test. But I'm like, I'm sure it's some anniversary and we'll be done tomorrow. And it's been like five days, far too long for such a poorly constructed logo. I feel like I know nothing about graphic design. I am not, you know, proficient in Photoshop and this and you know how many people it took to get this made, approved, launched. Not one of them said, you know, this is bad.
A
I, I, I didn't know that this was happening. I thought maybe like it only happened to me.
B
What's it in Celebration of Hate has
A
rained down on Spotify's 20th birthday party. Celebratory disco ball icon. The streamer acknowledged the backlash and said the old 2D logo will return to users photos phones next week as previously planned under the temporary icon switch out. So they're saying was always going to be change back. It's not just because everybody hates us.
B
Sure.
A
Without warning, last week they debuted the glowing green mirror ball icon for the mobile app on Apple's iOS. It was meant to be a fun celebration of the first 20 years connected
B
with Spotify 20, iOS or iOS. I've never heard anyone say iOS.
A
I read what I saw.
B
Cool. I see iOS that's like hooked on phonics. It's hooked on Johnics.
A
Like, you just are living in your own world 1,000%. And I love that what I say. IOS.
B
Yeah. I feel like everybody says iOS, like when you update to the new iOS, not the new iOS.
A
Oh, you guys are living in the past. I'm in the future.
B
Absolutely.
A
Spotify appears to not have expected this intense reaction from many of its users about the appearance of the disco ball, with many slamming it as a visual abomination.
B
Yes. It's a disgrace.
A
One person said the person who designed this logo should be fired.
B
Absolutely. By the way, like, this is the definition of being bad at your job.
A
Yeah. Yeah. And then Spotify said, we know glitter is not for everyone. It's not about the glitter.
B
Oh, my God. Gaslighters. That's. Honestly, I'm living for the statement. I know you guys are ugly and don't have taste, so we'll change it.
A
Our temp. Glow up and soon. Your regularly scheduled Spotify icon returns next week. Whether that was always the plan or not, they're acting like this was exactly how they wanted next week.
B
I'm sorry, we can't wait that long. And let me tell you, it's everywhere. Because I logged into CarPlay and even on the CarPlay, it's the disco ball. It looks better there than on the phone because it's bigger, but it's still so bad. And Ben was like, what's that? I'm like, I can't even talk about it.
A
I had no idea that anything.
B
So glad we're talking about that.
A
I'm so glad that we're talking about it and, like, that. We're just, like, shedding light on this national issue, this outrage.
B
Yeah.
A
I'm glad that they know that we hate it.
B
Yeah. Despise.
A
I love being a Spotify partner.
B
Love. But this doesn't change the fact, like, I have to be honest. It's ugly. Go back.
A
And it's confusing. Worse than ugly. Like, it's confusing. We didn't know it was your birthday.
B
We rely on you so much. Our favorite podcast, all of our favorite music I listen to. I use Spotify, like, 20,000 times a day. For food, for me, for work, like, and I'm sorry, the user experience was temporarily sidelined. Fix it. Go back.
A
I wonder if it harmed our numbers because people thought, like, their Spotify was downloading.
B
Let's check our analytics for this week. Okay. Cut me my. Check Spotify.
A
So all will be right next week.
B
All will be right next week. My life begins next week.
A
Are you ready for our Next story, which is your genuine nightmare.
B
Oh, no. What?
A
So Ryan Gosling was fired from the Lovely Bones movie after gave gaining 60 pounds for the role.
B
Wait, not only is that my personal nightmare, who was he supposed to play? The dad.
A
The dad. You know what?
B
Mark Wahlberg, like, did always feel sort of strangely cast, and I guess it was like a last minute thing. But why? The dad being fat has, like, nothing to do. Why would he have to gain 60 pounds? He's literally just a suburban dad. And I just want to say Mark Wahlberg, like, wasn't even fat in the movie, so it's not a role that required him to be fat. This is what I mean when I say, like, actors are so drama. No.
A
Imagine gaining 60 pounds for the job that you got and then not having the job.
B
So why did he.
A
So Peter Jackson, the director of Lovely
B
Bones, and I'm glad that the Lovely Bones is still being talked about. It's the best movie.
A
He's speaking about it, like, at Cannes Film Festival.
B
As he should. Like, seriously. As he should.
A
So he's finally weighing in on Ryan Gosling's infamous recasting in the Lovely Bones, which I didn't even know that was happening. He was supposed to pay Swarshy. Ronan's dad, Saoirse Ronan, like, seriously put
B
some respect on the Lovely Bones. His name.
A
But Susie.
B
Was that her name in the movie?
A
Susie. Salmon.
B
Salmon, yes.
A
But revealed.
B
Salmon. I can't with you. Like, salmon. Eos. What did you just pronounce weirdly?
A
Swarshe.
B
Exactly.
A
But Ryan Gosling revealed to Hollywood Reporter in 2010 that he was fired from the movie after he gained 60 pounds for the role without the director's consent.
B
Oh, okay. That's what I mean. So, yeah. Like, why you can't. When you get cast for something unless they tell you, you can't change the way you look. Like. No.
A
But during a conversation in Cannes after receiving an honorary award, Peter Jackson was asked about Ryan's revelation and spoke candidly about the decision to drop him from the movie.
B
I just want to say the reporter who, like, this guy's getting, like, a lifetime achievement award and they ask him about this, like, random movie 20 years ago. That reporter is a listener.
A
Pulitzer.
B
Yeah, Pulitzer. That's the type of shit we need to hear about.
A
Yeah.
B
Like, so random. I love it.
A
He said, I won't talk about any particular examples of actors because. Because it's. It's a personal, private thing and it's not their fault.
B
Yeah.
A
Anytime we. We recast an actor, it's Actually our fault because we didn't get the casting right and we cast the wrong person for a role. It's not because they did anything wrong. So I'm not going to talk about individuals, but you just got to realize that what you're imagining isn't really quite happening, which means that we got it wrong. And so we take full responsibility. He said Ryan is a fantastic actor. As we know, films are a chemistry both on camera and behind the camera. Their chemistry in terms of what the actor conveys to the audience of the film. It's just a complicated sort of amalgam of communication, of how somebody gets into a graph, group of gels into a group of people, into a story, into a character. It's complicated. And usually you try very hard when you're planning the film, casting it, trying to get that gel kind of right. But occasionally we make our own mistakes.
B
Like, this is where I find, like, people in cinema to be so obnoxious. Like, it's very complicated. Like, you couldn't understand. Like, it's literally like a movie. Yeah.
A
You're pretending.
B
Yeah, Right. You're all just like a bunch of pretenders. And we don't get it. Okay.
A
Ryan had said in 2010 that we had a different idea of how the character should look. I really believed he should be £210.
B
Why?
A
We didn't talk very much during the pre production process, which was the problem.
B
It was, yeah, you can't go rogue
A
and just change the character £60 because you believe he.
B
That he cuts. Like, and in the book. Olivia read the book. I never read the book.
A
I read the book.
B
Was he fat?
A
Like, that was so, like, not the story.
B
Right. Like, but maybe he couldn't, like, save his daughter because he. I don't know.
A
He said it was a huge movie and there's so many things to deal with and he couldn't deal with the actors individually. I just showed up on set and I had gotten it wrong that I was fat and unemployed.
B
Literally, me, obsessed.
A
Oh, my God, it's funny. Swashi Ronan on a podcast in 2024, spoke about it.
B
No, I'm telling you, if you see the movie, it's like all these insanely talented serious actors. And then Mark Wahlberg, like, it makes no sense. Who plays her mom?
A
He Swarcy said that the cast had already done some prep by the time Ryan got fired and she had bonded with Ryan. I'm sad to see him go, of course.
B
I mean, who wouldn't want to work with Mr. Gosling?
A
No. And also she was so young, you know?
B
Yeah.
A
So like, that's a bummer. But I'm sure Mark Wahlberg was fantastic. I had no idea this movie had so much drama behind it.
B
Oh, Rachel Wise, she plays the mother. She's such a. I'm telling you, it's such serious. Susan Sarandon, Stanley Tucci, Michael Imperioli from the Sopranos. Like I'm telling you, Saoirse Ronan.
A
Saoirse, who went on to be like the biggest thing.
B
It's such a ag Mishalka classic. She must be like one of the
A
friends from school, give her flowers and
B
then like Mark Wahlberg, he must have been really trying to do like serious work at the time.
A
Oh, yeah.
B
Michael Imperioli is like the detective who figures it out.
A
But I, I watch some clips of lovely bones on Instagram.
B
Me too. I see them all the time. It's one of those.
A
And I've seen the scene of like Mark Wahlberg, you know, like poking around the backyard.
B
Yeah.
A
Chilling stuff.
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Have you seen the scene of the sister up in Stanley Tucci's attic and she like drops the floorboard and he hears it and she runs out the window?
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Yep. Yes, I have. And I didn't find Mark Wahlberg to be like.
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I mean, he had like a stick
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out, like a sore thumb.
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No, no, no. But if you like, like it's just he did a good job at the job, but like us knowing, it's, it's
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like weird if, you know, I guess.
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Yeah. He was like out of character. It was just weird. Maybe at that time he was trying to be taken as like seriously as a serious actor.
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Yeah. And then he was like, this pays. No, no.
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Right. Back to Ted 3.
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Okay, are you ready for our fifth and final?
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Toast. Thank you, Sash Tert.
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You're welcome.
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Our fifth and final story is a little more movie news. Gwyneth Paltrow's daughter, Apple Martin is making her movie debut in a Nancy Myers film. So a lot of exciting bits here.
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The more exciting part is that we're getting a Nancy Myers.
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Nancy Myers film coming out in like 2027. In theaters. It's.
B
Oh, in theaters.
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Working title is like Paris Paramount. It's actually a semi autobiographical story of Nancy and we don't know what role Apple will place. But some of the other big names include Penelope Cruz, Kieran Culkin, Jude Law, Owen Wilson, Tony Hale and Aaron Dougherty.
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There's a couple of repeats. Nancy, Read them again.
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Penelope Cruz, Kieran Culkin, Jude Law.
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Jude Law has done Nancy Myers. The Holiday.
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Owen Wilson. Owen Wilson has probably.
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Yeah.
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Tony Hale. I love him.
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Buster.
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Buster Bluth.
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And also do you think of him more as Buster or as Gary from Veep? I feel like these days I actually associated more with Gary from Beep.
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Yes, but he is so Buster. Like I. The two come to mind.
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Yeah, but he's so Buster. And also the name is like Buster Blue.
A
The Buster is iconic. Like the name when he like lost his hand.
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Yeah. Well, this is exciting. A lot of pressure. I want to say. Like, not only is it Nancy Myers film, like, it's it. They're sort of cultural landmarks for. She doesn't make a movie that often. It's like I feel like every maybe five or 10 years.
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So is it her first one since the Intern came out in 2015. 15.
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That's crazy. And so there's a lot of pressure.
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She's really the best movie ever.
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They're all the best movie ever. Like, she makes the best movies. So there's a lot of pressure because it's that. But also like her mom is Gwen Poucher, like literally one of the greatest actresses.
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I mean, and her grandma, Blythe Danner. Yeah.
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Like, I'm sorry, the pressure's on.
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Like, she better.
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She better get to work with a coach.
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Like, she's gonna be amazing. You think it's in her blood.
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Yeah, it's true. She's like. She comes from a lot.
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Look at her. We could just look at her.
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Yeah. No, no. Like, I don't want to just look at her. Like, give me something.
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She will. She's gonna be amazing. And the movie, this is the premise, the mov. About a group of people making a film and the magic and mystery of what we do. So I think the working title at one point was called Paris Paramount, which I don't like, but I think it was, like, about the Paramount lot and, like, making a movie about Paris. Paris Paramount.
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So it should be called, like, Paris at the Paramount. But I don't like it.
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Yeah, no, they're not doing it at that title. But, like, that's so we know it's about, like, Paris Paramount. Paris Paramount.
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Owen Wilson just, like, can't stay away from movies about Paris.
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Yeah. Or maybe Paris can't stay away from him.
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That's beautiful.
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I love Owen Wilson.
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I love him too.
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I really. I love all of the Wilsons.
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I love all of the Wilsons. I don't sleep on that. On Emmett. No, do not sleep on Emmett.
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Luke.
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Luke. The lesser known but more handsome Wilson.
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Yeah, no, they're both, like. They're both so successful. Like, we need to talk to their mother. Mother.
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I agree. They had. They were raised by a great woman.
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We should also start a podcast where
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we talk to the mothers of great people.
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And not just like people, but like siblings, you know, like the Jonas Brothers mother.
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She's definitely.
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But she definitely has her hands full
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with them breaking up fights in the dressing room.
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They're probably always tattletailing on each other. But, like, I would love to talk to her. That's actually. Would be a great. Of course, Donna Kelsey.
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It actually would be a great podcast. Better than Namesake, I want to say.
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So I think we would call it Just Mother.
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Wait, that's, like, actually really good.
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Don't steal it, you guys. Let us do it. Okay. In our own time. We have a lot going on right now, but, like, one day we're going to have, like, time back, you know? Yeah.
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It's like when you read that book about Winston Churchill's mother, Jenny. Like, it's obviously interesting to read about a great man, but what's more even interesting is to read about their mother.
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Yeah, yeah.
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But sometimes great men are born from, like, evil mothers too.
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Of course. So.
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But we won't have the evil ones on. No, no, no.
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But I am also interested in, like, mothers of multiple greats.
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I mean, Andrea Swift Is our first like dream guest.
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Mothers of multiple greats.
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Well, yeah, but also mothers of grace, of grades.
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Yes, but I like, it's. You did it like more than once. Yeah, yeah, you did it more than once.
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The Wilson mother.
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So it's not just the child was incredible. It's like your act. You are the common denominator.
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The Culkin mom.
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The Culin. The Hughes brother's mother. Of course, the hockey. She's a hockey player herself.
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Yeah.
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I love it. It.
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Yeah, it's a good idea.
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I feel like someone's going to steal it. Don't.
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Well, we have proof like that we came up with it also, I guess
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like if someone stole it, it would mean like I'm getting the content I
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wanted without having to lift a finger.
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And I'm getting the interviews, you know, and the insights.
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Yeah, Meryl Streep. She's got a couple of Nepo kids.
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I feel like I'm okay.
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But no, yeah, cuz she's like the famous person. We'd have to talk to her mother.
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She has Nepo kids. That's different. That's different than creating great greatness from nothing.
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Let's dive into Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment where every Tuesday, Jackie and I try to get back to our community and help out the girls in need. Write in to us if you're dealing with anything. Dear toasters, gmail.com or head over to our website thetostpodcast.com Today we have two submissions and actually an update from last week. So let's start with the submissions. Hey Jackson, turn. I have a huge problem and I don't think you're gonna believe me. My boyfriend and I have been talking about marriage for a while, but I start. But we recently started to seriously discuss engagement. What I would like, what type of ring I want. While having one of the conversations the other day, my boyfriend dropped a bomb on me. There are two things that I have to agree with before he can even ask me to marry him. My boyfriend comes from generational wealth. The men of his family have been lawyers, judges, some are even politicians. It's almost like being around a royal family. One of the stipulations is signing a prenup, which I have no problem with. But the second thing shocked me. I have to go to their family doctor and get a whole body checkup. I mean, blood work for genetic testing, extensive family medical history questionnaire, even a psychological evaluation. I was completely unaware that this sort of thing happened in 2026. Is this normal or am I crazy? I don't know if I should marry this man. Man.
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I don't like the psych eval.
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I don't like that this is with their doctor. Like, if you can go to your own doctor and get all the paperwork. Look, I'm not crazy. I don't have, you know, any diseases. Fine. But like, it being their doctor and they having, like, your blood, like, I don't know, what are they gonna do?
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Clone or, like, if things go south with you guys down the line, they'll, like, use psych eval and like, they can say whatever. They. They can have their doctor evaluate you however they want to be. Like, this woman's crazy. She shouldn't have cut 20, 25. She shouldn't have, like, oh, Jackie's right. So, like, I actually think the idea of getting, like, you know, a workup with a future partner, like, it's so crazy, but, like, I could understand that. It's like, good to know each other's, like, health. Right. But I don't like it with their doctor, and I don't like the psych eval.
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So I would.
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I would push back, push back on
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the psych eval and be like, I'm happy to do all this with my physician. He's a great guy.
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Or like a third party physician, but not with yours.
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Yeah. Let's say it's like a non negotiable, like, no, we.
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That's really scary. Then you really have to be aware of what you're signing up for. And I do really think that will be like, if things go south ever, it will all use against you.
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Yeah.
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And. But it's like. Or would you want to be single?
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Right. Or, like, marry someone poor or, like.
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Or marry into this? Like, well, but like, if you married into like the royal family, say, like, I'm sure there's a lot of crazy like that.
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Absolutely.
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So, like, do you want this life or you do not want this life?
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Think about your future.
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And these lives don't come for free, you know?
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Absolutely not.
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There's no such thing as, like, a free ride life.
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Yeah. And if there was, I would have found it.
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I would push back and just push. For your own doctors.
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Yeah. Without the.
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And I feel like that's reason. That's actually, like, very giving of you because you're. You're agreeing to everything.
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And if they say no, like, that's a red flag for them. Like, I. What's the point? Like, why does it matter whose doctor it is? That means they're fudging with the And
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I really don't like a psych about. I don't know why. It just gives me the willies. Are you like, what have you done?
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They're also fraudulent because they like give fake ones to everybody who goes on reality.
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Crazy people. People. Right. Who have done crazy things.
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Yeah.
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To prove that they're not crazy.
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Yeah.
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Like you're just a sweet girl who wants to marry their son. I would. I would push back on.
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I didn't know stuff like that was happening much like Cynthia.
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It's kind of exciting.
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Yeah, it is, it is. But like, girl, protect yourself.
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Yeah, but it is.
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It has potential to be exciting.
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And I would also talk to a lawyer.
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Yes, yes.
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You have to get one for the prenup anyway. But I would ask, like, try and find a good lawyer.
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Don't cheap out. This is something you pay for.
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Like what all of this could mean for you one day. But both positive and negative. And also, if you're going to sign a prenup, make it good for you as well. You know, it's not just going to be like, you get nothing. You're out on your ear. Bye, loser. Yeah, like you can get stuff in a prenup.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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So get a good lawyer.
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Yes. And don't do anything without, like, lawyers. Present.
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Copper spell burden. Don't go against legal advice.
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Oh, I don't know what that means. I'll find out soon.
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Copper spell burden.
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All right, next up. Hey, swirlies. My best friend from out of town came to stay with my boyfriend and I this weekend and brought her new Prada bag. When we get to the house, she throws her stuff on the ground. We go on a house tour no more than three minutes later. And what do we find? A few puncture marks in her Prada bag. From our. From our cat. I do want to preface, this is my boyfriend's cat and I've always hated it because it ruins plenty of things of mine. But needless to say, I was so pissed at this damn cat. And obviously I felt horrible for my friend. A few days later, a few days after she left, she told me there's nothing product can do to help the repair. And all they did was send her a cut to a cobbler in New Jersey to try. She didn't seem happy with that option and felt that there was an expectation for us to replace the four thousand dollar bag. I do want to take some responsibility because it happened at my house, but honestly was careless of her to leave leave it on the floor. Even if my boyfriend and I split this expense. I don't think his cat's damages are my responsibility, but I also don't want to leave him with this hefty bill. What's the right call here? Love a swirly that would rather spend $4,000 on her own Prada bag.
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So this is very awkward.
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It's terrible.
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It's very bad, and there's no right thing to do because if you replace the bag, like, you're a schmuck. You just bought her a $4,000 bag, but she has a fine bag. But, like, you fucked it up with the stupid cat.
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I don't know. Throwing it on the floor, like, that's an important part of the story. If it was up on a table, like, absolutely. You kind of have to replace the bag, but, like, throwing it on the floor.
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You should be able to put your bag on the floor in someone's house without it, like, being. Yeah, no, you should be like, they don't have kids. Like, it's not a wild animal. Like, it's a cat.
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Like, yeah, well, how much does this friendship mean to you, honestly?
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And also, if. If you do buy her a new bag, which I'm not saying that you shouldn't. I actually don't think that you should. You should get the old one and. And then you have a little.
B
Oh, yeah, she doesn't get two.
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You get a little banged up Prada bag.
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I really don't know.
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Yeah, I don't know the dynamics of the friendship. If this happens.
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How poorly beat up is a bag? Not usable.
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Punctured.
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Right. A couple of little holes. Like.
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And like, what's the texture of a bag? Is it rattan? That could withstand.
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Is it leather?
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Yeah.
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Yeah. No, I don't think you need to buy her a whole ass new bag.
A
Like, say, this happened to you. You like your friend.
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Okay. Is it. Is it my bag or it's my house?
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It's your house. In Romeo punctured your friend's new Prada bag.
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I would buy them a new bag, but my financial circumstances allow me to do that. Not everyone's too. Yeah, it would kill me. Not very cardboard, but also, who's the person?
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It depends how much I love this friend.
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I know. And, like, I do already hate Romeo. So, like. Yeah, Like. Yeah, the thing is, you have to evaluate the friendship, too.
A
Yeah. Like, if you're okay with a little awkwardness. And, like, it's like, she's always gonna,
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like, oh, she came to stay with you and your boyfriend. Like, you're close.
A
Yeah, she's always Gonna be mad at you for this. Then you have to fix it if you can. It sounds like you can afford to, but you just don't really know if you should.
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Right? Like, is it on you? And it's like, yeah.
A
And you're also. Your boyfriend should pay for his.
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Oh, wait, I'm sorry. It's not your cat 1000%. Your boyfriend has to pay for it.
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But, like, what if he won't? And now you're stuck with, like, your friendship and your punctured back.
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I don't know. Boyfriend who, like, won't buy a Prada bag and has a cat. Doesn't sound like a good boyfriend.
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Does he have a cat?
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Let's talk about that. What grown man has a cat alone?
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It's so creepy.
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Good. Okay. I was like, oh, God, now here I am insulting everyone.
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Oh, yeah.
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That was, like, one time in Nashville. I'm trying to say I was really young, but we, like, rented. We, like, hired this local crew. We didn't know anyone there.
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We were doing our show, and so we, like. We did our show in Nashville, so
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we hired, like, randos. And I was. I forget how it came up. We were talking about journaling. It might have even been Dear Toasters. And just. Oh, yeah. She was talking about how she read her guy's journal and it said mean things about her. Can we be mad? And Jackie was like, no, you can't be mad when you read someone's journal. Like, it's their thoughts. And then I was also like, but also who? The journals. Like, what guy journals? I was like, that's gay. Or whatever. And literally, the guy behind the camera was like, I journal. And I was like, okay. I was like, that's. I didn't ask. Ask, but okay.
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Journaling is so evolved.
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No, I think, actually I was like, guys, do you journal? And one of them was like, yeah,
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I asked, but how do you feel about it now?
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It's definitely, like, a mature, introspective thing to do.
A
It really is. It's like, so.
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But I just.
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Enlightened.
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If you're journaling, like, you're not making money. And if you're a man, like, that's your job. So why don't you go be a provider and save the journaling to the girls?
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What if they're making money? Money and they're journaling? What if.
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I just don't see how that's possible. Honestly, writing things down takes forever.
A
But, like, what if they don't watch TV and they don't watch sports and
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then we're not gonna get along if you don't watch tv.
A
Okay.
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While I admire it, I don't know if I would want to be with somebody who journals. Honestly.
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It's fair to say. But like, can you? Yeah. So you admire it, as do I. I don't know if I could. I like that's just a lot. I do think, like journal my versus me.
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My views on it have changed since that immature episode where I thought it was like a really weird thing to do do. But that doesn't mean I want it for my own life.
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I. I completely agree.
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Okay, now our third and final submission is actually an update from maybe one or two weeks ago. Remember when we were talking about and I'll read the submission about the girl who found that like her boyfriend slash husband was saying, like how young are you?
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Yeah.
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Okay. So here was the submission. Hey, swirlies. In classic Dear Toasters fashion, I actually found out my husband was gay while searching through his computer and finding thousands of chats with him and men on Reddit think really vile glory hole talks of power topping and meeting up with transgender people. It was wild. The real dark part is, is that I saw a chat where he asked someone, how young are you? Weird, right? As a standard question is how old are you? So unfortunately I didn't see the answer. As the rest of the conversation, I was trying to take as many screenshots of things on his computer before he came down the stairs. I filed her divorce. Obviously, yes, I have an attorney, but now I'm concerned that he's also into young children as well as men. Looking for input from my girlies Levitoaster who asks questions now we had told her that unless you have children like you need to just make.
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I think we said run like the wind. Yes, I think that was the advice.
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Unfortunately she has written us back saying yes, I have children. Children. Two little girls. Two and four. He is actually saying that he's not gay, only bored. Yeah, right. And he's saying how young are you? Was actually a question to obtain their age to make sure that they were old enough to chat with. Also, you're right, obviously he's a liar. At baseline, it's been a year long custody battle because I live in a state that loves joint custody. We go to court in two weeks. I wish I had enough evidence to send him to federal prison for the pedophilia, but unfortunately I don't have proof. Hopefully the DTQ can send positive vibes and prayers to me and my girlies and he gets what he Deserves. Thanks for reading my submission. It buoyed me and made me cackle on a dark day. Day. Oh, gosh, I'm so sorry. Like, this is darker than I thought it was gonna be. I just feel like whatever the court decides, like, this is not our business. Like, you usually take the kids and move out of state.
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Like, then she's like, obstruction.
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Yeah. Kidnapping. I don't.
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So that you can have, like, this creepy, like, pedophilic question, you know, even remotely a question. And it's like joint custody. When you have a mother who wants full custody and, like, his sound of mind.
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I actually feel like, just like talking to, like, sexually to people on Reddit is very time consuming and he actually might not end up using all of his custody.
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Yeah.
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Like, because it will get in the way.
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Joint custody, they want to fight for it and they want to punish you, but they don't actually want kids half the time.
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Men. Men always want joint custody just to hurt the moms. And then when it comes time, it's like, oh, I have to do bed, bath, bottle. Never mind. I'll pick them up next week. So I have faith that, like, he's just doing this to hurt you. Great, Let him. But, like, the kids will be with you.
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Yeah. Just, like, have.
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Give them a lot of red 40 before they get picked up. Like. Like, give them a lot of red 40. Give them a lot of sugar. Like, kind of make them hand them over to him at, like, 5:00'. Clock. Like, the worst hours of the day. He'll get tired in a couple of weeks.
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Yeah.
B
I'm really sorry. Like, that's awful.
A
That really made me sick.
B
Yeah. But we love you.
A
Yeah, we do. And get a great lawyer who can drill home the fact that he is likely a sexual predator.
B
Yeah. Screenshots, screenshots, receipts, sheets, proof, timeline. Even if you don't think it'll work, like, there's now a record of it in court that if anything were to happen, like, you could say, I told you so and that'll help your case. So definitely. Even though you don't think it's gonna, like, move the needle, include it regardless.
A
Yeah.
B
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Love you.
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Bye.
Episode Title: Salmon, iOS & Saoirse
Air Date: May 19th, 2026
Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry
Podcast Network: Dear Media
This Tuesday’s episode is a classic swirl with Jackie and Claudia, recorded together in-studio and packed with lively commentary, breaking pop culture news, new product launches, and their signature irreverent humor. The episode spotlights the launch of Skinny Spritz at Target, deep dives into TV recaps (especially viral romance-dramas), and explores celebrity news from Anne Hathaway’s new Disney+ project to the Jonas Brothers' foray into podcasting. They also tackle the most confusing iOS update in recent memory, share hot takes on casting drama around The Lovely Bones, celebrate Nancy Meyers’s next film (with a very special nepo-baby debut), and answer dramatic listener dilemmas in their Dear Toasters segment.
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Classic Toast: fast, fun, buzzy, irreverent, with warm rapport between hosts. They frequently blend personal anecdotes, pop culture commentary, and advice in the same breath, never shying away from playfully cutting critiques or supportive words for listeners facing serious issues.
Perfect for listeners who want a whirlwind of pop culture takes, relatable influencer hustle, and honest girlfriend advice—all delivered with humor and candor.