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Good morning, millennials.
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Welcome back to the toast and happy Thursday. Thursday. The last Thursday I'll spend in these four walls were not strong enough. Oh, speaking of Cyrus, we have a Cyrus family story today.
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We have a Cyrus family story. We are so invested in the family Cyrus, for so many reasons. Like, it's our childhood. It's also entertainment, but it's not something that I've, like, reach at all fatigue on. In terms of developments, it is a Thursday, which is also like a My House joke. You know, I get my wires crossed in terms of their things, like inside jokes. And I feel like for everyone, when you have kids, you start talking like them and, like, you guys make up words and stuff. And then I also do this show where I start talking like them and we make up words and stuff. And there's crossover sometimes.
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FYI. Thursday is now Thursday.
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It's Thursday, and Friday is Friday.
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I had such a crazy dream about one of your kids. They were. No, they were wearing a toupee. It was good. It was good. They were wearing. Charlie had this, like, deep black comb over, like, toupee. And he, like, was so excited to see me, and I was like, you look weird.
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He was giving Steven.
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Yeah, honestly, I. I don't even know where I got, like, this look from. He also had, like, a new face. I was like, oh, hey, you look great.
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Hey, Steven.
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Hey, how y'all doing? He was, like, flying down the stairs, like, so happy to see coach, which they never are.
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So did you tell the Steven story?
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We didn't. Jackie brought the wrong kid home from the park.
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No, what happened was when Claudia was here one afternoon, like, Charlie fell asleep for his nap. First he was napping for a while, and then Harry and I fell asleep. So Charlie woke up while we were asleep, and Zach and Ben took Charlie with them. They actually were on a mission to find caviar.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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They, like, went to the mall. They went to Costco. They went everywhere, like, looking for caviar. They were out so late with Charlie, and when he came home, like, he.
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Just looked, like, weird.
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He just looked like a different child. Like, he smelled like the mall. He just smelled different. So he was Steven.
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Yeah, because, you know, those two picked up the wrong kid for sure. Like, at Costco, Andrew, he was just. We kept calling him Steven, and he, like, was answering to Steven, and we were like, who's dad? Like, it was really. He was giving. He was giving. Stranger. No.
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And now you know how sometimes, like, kids wake up from a long nap and they, like, look like They've grown a little bit. They look a little different like that. I feel like that just happens with kids. So every time he's, like, doing something a little bit different, we call him Stephen. Like, he woke up from a nap the other day, and he was such a Steven.
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That's who. Steven. Everybody has, like, an alternate personality, right?
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Like, Stephen Jackson.
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Hey, Stephen. I know looks can be deceiving, but I know I saw a lot in you. So glad we'll be talking about the Cyrus family debacle on today's show. Also, getting a haircut today, and I feel like every time I get a haircut, I'm like, will she? Won't she? And I just want to be honest with you guys. Like, spoiler alert.
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She won't.
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I'm getting a trim. Like, I'm getting a trim. I just want, like, my. My layers cut. But, like, I like having long hair, especially now that, like, I'm not in control of my weight. If I can be in control of something, it's the length of my hair. So that's where I'm at. We know. Yeah, I know. I just feel like every time they're like, oh, maybe she's gonna get bangs. Like, not today.
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We've been known.
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Not today.
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I'm glad that you've done another assessment and realized that you are who you are. I'm glad you came to that conclusion.
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I am who I am.
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I am who I am. Did you have that on your SAT also? Did you take the act? Are you a freak like that?
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What do you think? I'm 11. That's so nice. You think I'm young enough? Like, when I was in high school, the ACT was like, this new test. It existed, and, like, people took it for sure. But it was so crazy to take. Like, it was so. So.
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Like, you have no future.
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Yeah. Like, it was so off the beaten path. Like, it was so generic.
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What made someone someone who took the acts? I actually.
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It was how you learned. Like, it was like, you could do, like, a test for your brain, like, how you process information, like, what kind of test taker you are. You either more fit for the SAT or the act. And I know that they were, like, given equal value at colleges like they were.
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But I also think that the SAT has the writing portion. ACT doesn't have writing, and instead it has, like, science or something. So it differs one.
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Yeah. The difference in the act. Thank you for reminding me now, is that the ACT is actually a much easier test. You are given so little time, and with the sat. If you have, like, a learning disability, you can get extra time. It was actually very common. You.
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That's why if you get extra time on the act, like, congratulations, you're going to Harvard. Okay, so there was a percent score.
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There was one girl in my class who had ACT extra time. And, like, seriously was a golden ticket because the ACT itself, the test was easier than. But it was all about time management. It was all about getting your answers in. And, like, you would be really penalized for not finishing certain sections. And this girl, like, when everybody found out that she got extra time on the act, like, it was so crazy.
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So I feel like I even know who it is.
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Do you?
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It's someone that, like, does it just let her.
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Yeah, it's a girly. Yeah.
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Yeah, I think I know.
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Yes.
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You. Like, that's how big of a deal.
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You guys literally made, like, the school newspaper. It was so crazy. And so I. I think now, like, there's. It's like, 50, 50 split. Like, kids just decide which ones to take. But back in my day, it was new.
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I actually think more people take the act these days. I think the SAT has been, like, canceled.
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Good.
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Us taking the SATs is really giving away our age.
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Oh, my God. So true. I took the ACTS literally, saying, one of the worst experiences of my life was that stupid test. And not even the test itself. The tutoring, like, the studying up until.
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Those going downtown every week to take a practice test, waking up so early.
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To do that, and, like, those SAT study groups, like, it was just. It was horrible.
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It was. But do you remember? I think it was on the practice test, like, when you had to sign your name, it said, I am who I am. Oh, oh, that's my practice test. I'm like, I don't think it was on the real thing because, like, I don't think.
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I don't think that's preposterous. I also would love to, you know what?
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Just really quickly do SAT questions.
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Like, was the test that hard, or were we, like.
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I just want to say I saw on X, like, a. An LSAT question that was like, there are 10 really hard questions on the LSATs, and here's one of them, and if you can get this, like, you probably would, like, farewell on the lsat.
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Okay, I've seen those before, too.
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Okay. So I read it through. I chose my answer, and then in the comments, they, like, didn't. I never knew what the answer was, but I think I got it right.
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Okay, here's a sample sat question.
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Ready 179.
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It's multiple choice. Fill in the blank. Ready?
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Okay.
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Oh, and also. Wait, I don't know where the answer is.
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Okay. Yeah, that's important.
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Okay, whatever. Beginning in the 1950s, Navajo Nation legislator Annie Dodge Winuka continuously worked to promote public health. This blank effort involved traveling throughout the vast Navajo homeland and writing a medical dictionary for speakers of Dine Bazaad, the Navajo language. Which word would you put in? Okay, this impartial effort, this offhand effort, this persistent effort, or this mandatory effort?
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This persistent effort.
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Right. Because she traveled and then she wrote, like, are we geniuses or was that an easy question? Yeah.
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Or we're just, like, old, and we should know these things. And maybe when we were juniors, we didn't.
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Yeah. I would just genuinely love to know the answer.
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I would love to, like, see what I would get on the SATs. Now. Would you get on the SAT?
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I don't really, like, want to talk about it.
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Oh, really?
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Yeah. Because let me tell you. Just. Okay, I'll tell you. But we grew up, like, in a family that all took the SATs, and so Olivia was very smart. What did Olivia get? She got in the 20s, but Olivia.
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I think they were still grading on 1600. Not to age her, but I feel like she was a 1600. And then for my year, by the way, that was.
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By the way. Okay, that's ancient. You were graded on the 1600 scale. What did you get?
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And then I think for my year, I guess it would have been out of 20.
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400.
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400. Yeah. Another 800 points for the new section.
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Yeah, there was three sections instead of two. So you got. I know you got in the 20s.
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I did.
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And I remember when we would convert Olivia's score, like, because we were all so competitive, like, compares was in the 20s, too. So I was like, okay, that's, like, the bar that I have to reach. And, you know, my ask on the 18s. Like, I think it was 1850 or something. Something like. It's a. It's an admirable score. It's not bad, but, like, it's not good.
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I got 2040.
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That's, like, really good.
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It was really good. And I. I feel like that doesn't surprise people who, like, know me now because I've really, like, worked on myself and, like, becoming a smart person. But I need the record to show, like, I was not a smart person in elementary and high school.
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Just me neither. And I know that if I had, like, ever been taken for testing, they would have given me, like, a Bunch of learning disabilities. Like, I just know I was. Because it's not that I'm a dumb person. And, I mean, I guess maybe I didn't have a learning disability. Like, I actually just didn't give a shit. Like, it's hard, but, like, I so didn't care. Like, going to school was, like, about so many things, and none of it was about, like, learning.
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And then I think in college. So my SAT scores put me, like, in a new. Because I did well. Like, a new bracket, new options open to me. And then if I, like, really beefed up everything else about my application, like, that's how I got into Colgate. Plus applying early and showing that I was really Colgate strong.
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And don't forget about that. That essay and my essay.
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Yeah, no, that's what I mean. Like, every other. Like, my grades, like, were. Not that my GPA wasn't the greatest. Like, everything else, we were, like, firing in all cylinders.
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Yeah.
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And I gave a great interview, and I had a great essay, and I had a good SAT score. But then I think I actually did a little better in college. Not all the time, but because I was learning about things I was interested in because I was a history major. And I just, like. Like, when I cared about the subject, I paid more attention.
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Here's what Olivia said.
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Oh, it's probably a rigmarole.
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Yeah.
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She said, if I remember correctly, Brian was the proctor.
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If I remember correctly, I got a 2020 out of 2400. And then I think a 1380 perhaps out of 1600. So how do you get both?
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1380 sounds memorable.
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Yeah. 1380. So what would that convert to?
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I don't know. I need to get my like.
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Like, if you did better than Olivia, like, that would have been, like, a big thing in our house.
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1380 over 1600 equals X over 2400.
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Should I get my calculator?
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Okay, 2400 times 1380.
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Okay, hold on, hold on.
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This is the only piece of math I will ever remember, whoever taught it.
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To me times 1380. Okay.
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Divided by 1600.
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Olivia got a 2070.
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Olivia got a 2070.
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Yeah. So that's why it didn't ring a bell, that you did better than Olivia.
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Yeah. And I just want to say, if I had done better at Olivia, that would have been, like, headline news in our family, because Olivia is so, so smart.
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Like, I would know that.
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I would have remembered that. I would have been talking about it today. I'd go over for dinner and stuff.
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It would have been the time. It would have been, like, Family lore. Yeah. Because the smartest.
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The smartest parent, like, always just an A student, which is so, like, what's that?
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Like, I don't know, but I do. And I feel like I bring this up all the time. Like, if you're listening to this in high school, which I'm sure you're not, like, don't put too much stock in it. I remember going to my five year high school reunion and just being, like, really unimpressed with what all the really. There were kids in my grade who went to Harvard. Like, I had a really, really smart graduating class. Like, and I was just, like, really unimpressed with what a lot of them were doing. I was like, asking, like, what are you guys doing? She's like, oh, I'm like, in between jobs, trying to work in fashion. I'm like, so you could have gone anywhere? Like, that's like, you're like.
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Like me? Yeah. Like, well, you were probably a big macher at that point.
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Not really, but, like, I just remember being like, oh, my God, none of that mattered. Like, seriously, you, all that work for what?
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Yeah, well, it shapes you as a person. So don't give up. Stay in school. Don't do drugs. There you go.
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My motto is a little. My models, my motto is get out of school and do drugs. You know, stay away from school. Stay in drugs.
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Yeah. Well, there's your life lesson for the day.
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That's kind of what we provide here, along with just parchy vibes and stories. It's Thursday. Such a relaxed day. I feel like everybody's still talking about Dear Toasters from this week. Like, it was.
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I've gotten so many text messages.
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I know I need to comb through the updates to see if I found anything, but this is like, this girl's in a. It's not something that gets fixed in a week or two. Like, she. We will hear from her in. In a couple of months, I hope.
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On the news.
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Literally. Man woman kills husband, nation rejoices.
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Like, man arrested, nation rejoices after him and his buddies.
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Yeah. Underground ring of freaks uncovered thanks to Millennial Morning Show.
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Yeah, Love that.
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Love that. I'm wearing my maternity clothes today. I'm so comfortable.
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You look amazing. You look comfortable. And also, like, it's an adorable outfit.
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I know. It's, like, not ugly. You know what? And I was thinking, like, whoever did maternity clothes, like, needs to do what they did for maternity, for plus size. Like, there's literally no reason my plus size clothes should be so fudgeing ugly. And like, so grandma it's like floral patterns. Like, you look like a couch. And why are they able to make maternity clothes, like, so stylish and cool? Just, like, with different sizing. It's literally plus, like, do it. Yeah. I don't know. Like, it's. It can be done. There's proof. Look at maternity.
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Yeah.
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Like, shopping plus size is, like, seriously the most upsetting thing on the planet. It's just.
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It's not gotten better ugly.
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Oh, my God.
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I just feel like whenever I'm shopping, like, it's like I. There's always whatever I'm buying. Like, there's always plus available of the same thing.
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No, but what do you consider plus? Like, an extra large. That's a plus.
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No, no, no, no. It's like two models and you can shop. Like, where are you shopping? Revolve.
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No, I don't see that ever. Like, it's. I'm thinking, like, when you go to a store, like, it's just. It's.
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Oh, when you go to the store. Well, I don't go to a store.
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It's like graphic tees and it's like, it's trends from five years ago. Like, the plus size community is now getting turtlenecks within open shoulder, you know?
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Oh, my God, stop. You were the first one with that cold shoulder.
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I invented that sweater.
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I'm wearing a turtleneck today because it's very cold. My house is very cold because I just, like, it feels crazy for me to turn on the heat. Don't you feel that way?
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Did you just say it's very cold?
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Well, I just need to justify my turtleneck because people are gonna be like, don't y'all live in Florida?
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People do love to say that to you.
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They do love to say that to me. So I just need to just.
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By the way, they're not wrong for that. That's a crazy sweater to wear when you live in Florida.
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Wait, so I'm saying it's. It's cold here. There's a cold front. There's been snow in Florida. You've seen that snow on the beach?
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Of course I have.
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And I just was asking you a question, which. Don't you think it would be crazy of me to turn on the heat in my house?
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Yeah, I guess it would be kind of nuts.
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Thus, I'm a little cold, if that's okay.
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Well, that's why she, like, turned it on a sweater.
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Okay, Desp.
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Beautiful.
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Anyways, without further ado, Dah dot do. Here are the fast five stories that you need to know and the fast.
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Our first story. Oscar nominations delayed but here. So here are the Oscar nominees and we have our official Oscars correspondent. And I have to be honest with you, like, if you really want to be taken seriously in this space, which you're doing the work and you should be, you're gonna have to watch Emilia Perez because it's leading the pack with 13 nominations. Just letting you know.
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I won't. I thought you were gonna say you're gonna have to see the Bob Dylan movie. And like that's, that's the truth. That's sort of like washing over me. Like, I understand. I probably should see it.
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Yeah. And I don't think you would hate it.
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No. Next up on my list is the Brutalist because I spoke to like my, you know, my friend in Hollywood. Me and Ben were talking to Josh last night and he was like, you guys have to see it. He knows we're on this journey. He said we have to see Brutalist. Like it's long but amazing.
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And you have to see Amelia Perez.
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I I. I don't need to see it. I've seen it. Penis to vagina. Vagina to penis. I've seen it.
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I've seen enough. It is so crazy. I can't believe that it got nominated for an Oscar and it got nominated for the most Oscars. You guys, if you haven't seen clips from this movie, like, you absolutely need to.
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I want to talk about sex change operation.
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It's the craziest thing I've ever seen.
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It's a musical about this, like, evil cartel man who wants to undergo gender reassignment surgery. Unclear if he's like a genuine in that endeavor or if he's looking to go into hiding because he, like, he's responsible for some of like, the most vicious kidnappings in Mexican history.
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The vibe I get is that it's genuine and that's what makes it.
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That's what's so crazy about it. Like, yeah. Holding space for two truths. Like, you can seriously struggle with your gender identity while also kidnapping people. That's crazy.
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It was that up for debate.
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I guess it was more so that it wasn't up for debate. Nobody ever thought about it. Like, I would just assume, like, if you're busy orchestrating like evil acts of.
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You're like happy with who you are.
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No, you're just busy.
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Sure of yourself.
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You're busy.
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You're sure.
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And all I just want to say is, like, I'm listening to the Tostada community on this one. Like, they do not fuck with this movie.
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So they don't.
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So therefore, like, who am I to betray my community?
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The thing is, like, nobody really fucks with this movie. Which is why the amount of nominations that it's getting is really so crazy. It's like offensive to a lot of people, many cultures. It also does not seem good. It seems like like a joke.
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Yeah. Because sometimes, you know, a movie is offensive, but it's like it's also a good movie.
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Hard truth.
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Yeah. And it's like something we need. We needed to talk about. But I don't think that's what's happening.
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No, that's not what's happening.
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And I thought for sure that like the Amelia Perez was going to like make its rounds in all the award ceremonies. But Oscars, which is really like the upper echelon, the most premiere was going to cut them out of the conversation. That's what I thought was going to happen.
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No, not at all. They are leading 13 nominations. So here are the nominees for best picture. Anora.
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No.
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The brutalist remains complete A complete unknown.
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I have to. Those are the two I need to say.
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Conclave. Honestly, the more I think about being the best picture.
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Well, you know, me and Ben were talking to Josh last night, and he was, like, giving us his thoughts on it because he's gone through, like, he loved it so much, and, like, I. I understood. Like. Like, everybody's interpreting it differently, and that's what it. It's a good movie. Yeah. Honestly, it was really good.
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Dune Part two.
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You're kidding me. That's best picture.
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Yeah, but this category is bigger than the Globes. Like, we're only halfway through. Amelia Perez. I'm still here. Nickel boys. The Substance. Wicked.
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Honestly, I. I like the substance in Wicked, but I don't know. I don't know. I need to see more.
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Okay. Nest. Best Actress, Cynthia Erivo. Wiccan Carla. Sophia Gascon. Amelia Perez. Mike Mickey. Madison. Anora. No, to me, more the substance. Fernanda Torres. I'm still here.
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Based on what I've seen. The Substance. Like, she was incredible.
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I wanted me to get it and hopefully, like, Cynthia Revo could win for next Wicked. And it's, like, nice knowing that she has. She'll have enough. Another shot for part two of Wicked.
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Also, Like, I saw both movies, and I thought. I think Cynthia was incredible, but I think Demi, like, did more. It was such a. Like, this is Cynthia's bread and butter, you know, like, musical. Like, Demi was so out of her box, and she was really. It was so. It was big. I. I think, to me.
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Best actor, Adrien Brody. The Brutalist. Timothy Chalamet. A complete unknown. Coleman Domingo. Sing, Sing. Ralph Fiends Conclave.
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Okay, wait. We have to talk about Ralph Fiennes.
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His name.
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His name is Ray Fine or something. Like, I'm saying it completely wrong.
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He should just be glad I didn't call him Ralph Viennis.
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By the way, his name is Ralph Fiends. Like, I don't know what everyone's talking.
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About when you say it sounds familiar. Like, yeah. Oh, my God.
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For sure.
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Everybody knows Ralph Fiends.
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Like, America's sweetheart, Ralph Fiends.
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Sebastian, Stan, the Apprentice. You'll have to do some work there.
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Because I feel like it's going to be Adrian Brody.
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Yeah. So you're gonna see the Brutalist? Yeah, I feel like he's always a safe bet, you know, I really need.
B
To see the Brutalist. And a complete unknown, but looks like Kylie will be at the Oscars.
A
A.
B
That's huge.
A
Best supporting Actress, Monica Barbaro. A complete unknown. All right. Oh, that's the girl who was sitting with Elle and Kylie.
B
Oh, she's very pretty.
A
People say looks like a mixture of Elle and Kylie.
B
Right.
A
That's our girl. Ariana Grande. Wicked. Felicity Jones. The Brutalist. Isabella Rossellini. Conclave, Zoe Saldana, Emilia Perez.
B
Let me say something about Isabella Rossellini. Like, she was in the movie for five seconds. Like, the fact that, like, Ariana. Like the fact that I think Ariana could have been.
A
Yes.
B
Supporting. Not. Not supporting, just Best Actress. Like the fact that, like, the amount of work put into both projects is so crazy different. Like. And Isabella Rossellini was amazing. She shouldn't win. She was seriously. In four scenes.
A
I just want to say something crazy that I haven't said yet. Even though the only movie I've seen out of all these is Wicked. Just let it be known. I didn't say Chiben Best Picture and I didn't say that Cynthia should win. I think Ariana should win.
B
I said it. I completely.
A
Especially because it's Best supporting. So, like, the bar is already a little lower and she is a lead, so she did so much and she was so amazing. It wasn't. But, like, I don't know. I could not take my eyes off of Ari. Like, and I think this. Cut this mostly because this categories a little less competitive than the ones in. I think Ari should win. I said it.
B
If Wicked is going to win one award, I think it should be. It's Ariana's to lose. And I agree. She really could have been cast as a lead. She was my first thought when I got in the car after the movie was like, she stole the show. She made it her own. She paid homage to the original character. She added flair. She should win. Which is so crazy because I don't think that, like, Wicked is really competing in a lot of these categories because it's very mainstream, very commercial. But like, like, she. She was brilliant. Like, truly brilliant.
A
Agreed.
B
And you guys know I'm hard on my girl.
A
Like, I don't expect her to win, but I think she should.
B
Yeah.
A
Best Supporting Actor, Europe. Yeah. I don't know anyone from Conclave. Anyone from Conclave? No.
B
Or the substance? No. Okay. I don't care.
A
Best Director. Anora Brutalist. Complete Unknown. Amelia Perez. A substance. Just noteworthy that John M. Chu did not get nominated for Best Director.
B
He didn't get nominated in any other award show either. So I don't know anything about, like, directing, but he obviously, like, isn't good because I don't know if everybody's snubbing him or, like. And it's crazy because how can you not direct a movie well? But the movie ends up amazing.
A
Yeah. I mean, it was a project that was too. Doesn't. Maldoni was in person.
B
It was a project that was too stacked to fail, honestly. So I don't know if, like, a director made or break it, but Made her broke. But I thought he did a good job.
A
I thought so, too. I thought it looked nice.
B
But, like, let me also say, like, I don't know what constitutes a good and a bad director.
A
I would agree with that. So that's why I'm not stepping in. Like, I did Ferrari.
B
Yeah.
A
Then the only other category I'm usually interested is Best original Songs. Because they.
B
And did you see they're removing performances. They announced that yesterday, too.
A
Well, I'm not mad because, like, aside from Elton John, I don't need to see any of these.
B
Who are they?
A
Miley wasn't nominated like, she usually was. El Mall. Amelia Prez. The Journey. The six, Triple eight. Like a Bird. Sing, Sing, Mi Camino. Emilia Perez. Never Too Late. Elton John, I guess.
B
Two songs from Amelia Perez. Do you think it's the one? Sex Change Operation.
A
It better be.
B
Vagina to Penis. I love that song.
A
We made it catchier than it is.
B
I know what I'm singing. A familiar tune. What? Yeah. Is it like Ring around the Rosie or something? Bring around the Rosie A bucket full I am.
A
Yeah.
B
By the way, that song is dark.
A
A lot of them are dark.
B
Yes. Something about, like, a cradle in a tree or is that Ring around the Rosie?
A
That's not Ring around the Rosie.
B
When the cradle falls out of the.
A
Tree Rock a bye baby.
B
Yeah.
A
However, it's not actually. It's actually, like, different.
B
When the wind blows, the cradle will.
A
Fall when the bow breaks, the cradle.
B
Will fall and I will come Baby, Cradle and all.
A
But it's, like, meant to be something sweet like baby used to swing on a tree. And then when they come out means they're too big. It, like, broke and now they're a big kid. Something like that.
B
I guess it's just all about your.
A
I read a reinterpretation recently.
B
Right, right. And I have something to say about the Oscars.
A
Okay.
B
Because Bowen, Yang and Rachel Cenot, like, were announced as the people who were gonna announce the nominees. And there was, like, a lot of hoopla for it. And I have to speak a tr. Truth, and it's embarrassing, but I have to just be honest with myself.
A
Okay.
B
I don't know who Rachel Sonatas. And she's everywhere.
A
How do you not know who that is?
B
How do you know who that. No, you don't. Yeah. Okay.
A
It was Rachel Sonata and Ralph.
B
Everybody knows Rachel. So not like, seriously, who is it? Like, you know who I thought who she was for a while because you love that show. My crazy ex girlfriend.
A
Oh, yeah, Rachel.
B
Yeah, she looks like that girl.
A
That's funny. Rachel.
B
She's an actress and comedian. I. Oh, she was in Bodies, Bodies, Bodies and Bottoms. Okay. She was in like two A24 movies. That's why, like, Gen Z loves her.
A
I don't think we're expected to know.
B
This person, but, like, not like announcing the Oscars.
A
Yeah. Is that like a huge Shiva baby? Oh, I'm scared.
B
I would love. Oh, wait.
A
Oh, here. Do you want to watch Shiva Baby? It's while at a Jewish funeral service with her parents, a college student has an awkward encounter with her sugar daddy and her ex girlfriend.
B
I have to tell you something about this movie. Hold on, let me just.
A
Classic Shiva stuff.
B
I just. Hold on. Before I say it. I wanna. Oh, maybe I'm wrong. Never mind.
A
So knows all to say. I didn't know who this was, but I know.
B
And it's like I feel like I'm expected to.
A
Oh, I didn't. I didn't have expectations set on myself.
B
Okay, well, I just wanted to speak my truth. Like, I claim to be hip, I claim to be young, I claim to be Gen Z. Like, I took the acts and I don't know who Rachel Sinat is, but if you took the acts, like, you. You know who Rachel Sennott is.
A
I'm telling you, she was a question on the test. Diana Agron is in Shiva Baby. Maybe I would watch that. If you want to get to know.
B
Rachel Cenot, give Diana Agron more work in the year 2025. Like, Hollywood has failed Diana Agron, even though I think she, like, purposely.
A
Yeah, I feel like that doesn't work.
B
I think after Glee, like, she had had enough and she does really well.
A
Like, no, I feel like she works like she. Her IMDb is definitely stack, but she.
B
Does, like, small art projects.
A
She does what she wants and I.
B
Think she makes most of her money being like a socialite fashion girl. She was like a face of Chanel and I think she, like, married really well. So I think she's fine. And I don't think she wants to work. Like, I don't think she wants to be a big star. I think she, like, saw the dark side of Hollywood and was like, listen, I like the money, but the rest of this, like, it's not going to be for me. But she's seriously a, like, a classic talent.
A
I agree. Are you ready for our next story?
B
I am.
A
Billy Ray Cyrus's family is genuinely, genuinely worried after his disastrous inauguration performance. So his son, Trey Cyrus, put out a statement. Express.
B
It's almost like an open letter.
A
Yeah. Expressing concern for Billy Ray. And I think that, like, doing it in the public was just meant to really, like, shake Billy.
B
It's like what you do when someone's hit rock bottom. Like intervention. You. You stop caring. Like, you just have to get through to them.
A
Yeah. He said, since my earliest memories, all I can remember is being obsessed with you and thinking you were the coolest person ever. I wanted to be just like you. The day you adopted me was the happiest day of my life. Sadly, the man that I wanted so desperately to be, just like, I barely recognize now. It seems this world has beaten you down and it's become obvious to everyone but you. Me and the girls have been genuinely worried about you for years, but you've pushed all of us away. Noah desperately has wanted you to be a part of her life, and you haven't even been there for her. That's your baby girl. She deserves better somehow, just like me. She still idolizes you, though. We are all hanging on to memories of the man and we once knew and hoping for the day he returns.
B
So, I mean, this is probably the biggest insight and, like, window into what's been going on with the family, Cyrus, because we've known about this divide. We've known that, like, the kids took Tish's side in the divorce, but, like, why? And it really just seems like this behavior we saw on stage the other night, like, is sort of how he's been for the last couple of years. And it's, like, impossible to help someone who won't help themselves.
A
Yeah.
B
This is so sad. And obviously, like, I throw back to Cherry Cyrus.
A
Metro street booming.
B
Yeah. When she doesn't like this, will you do it like that? That was, like, one of the greatest times in pop culture. Like, Miley was coming up, and then they were like, she has a brother. He's in this band. What was that? A band called Metro.
A
Boom. It was called Metro. Hold on, Station.
B
Thank you. I went to a concert. Wait, when I was in high school, they were the opener for, like, someone big. Who did they open for? I feel like Katy Perry or something. It was at Madison Square Garden, probably.
A
Katy Perry.
B
Where they're giving me, like, tours of old train stations.
A
Of course they are. Of course they are. That. That band name does not have good SEO.
B
Yeah. Okay.
A
Like, I'm never Lumen.
B
I'm never gonna find what I'm looking for. And, yeah, trace is the basis.
A
I hope you find it. What you're looking for. I hope it's everything you dreamed your life would be and so much more.
B
Yeah. Shake it was, like, really their only song because the rest I'm not familiar with.
A
Well, one hit wonders. We could say that.
B
Oh, my God. They joined Boys Like Girls on their tour. But I never saw Boys.
A
Claudia, I was. I know. I can't say I was gonna say, was it Boys Like Girls? But I was gonna say that. But I know, like, no one will believe me.
B
I never saw Boys Like Girls on tour. But, like, if. I don't know if you guys would believe me when I told you, like, nobody in America was a bigger fan of Boys Like Girls than me. That album, it's like black and then it's like a bunch of colors in the middle. I. It's drunk in love. That was no love drunk. I used to have a love junk, but now I'm hung up. Oh, my God. Like, seriously raised me.
A
Is that. Check yes. Juliet no.
B
Check yes. Juliet is not. Is a different band.
A
That's Ben's favorite song, and it's different than and Juliet.
B
It is. It's we the Kings. Check. Yesterday.
A
We the Kings. They are elite.
B
You know, I actually recently found out something interesting.
A
I just want to say, like, I know you won't believe me, but I was gonna guess that Metro street open.
B
Do you remember the band Element? Element, of course.
A
And they had a night out.
B
No, what's. What's, like, their big song? It's. Hold on.
A
Actually, no, I don't remember Juliet.
B
It's called Juliet. I think you're a fan.
A
Oh, okay. We're in a different era now.
B
Yeah, of course. But you know what? I just found out about this band. Do you know who was a core member of the band left after he was cast on Glee? Matthew Morrison. The plot thickens. I just want you to know I want to be Romeo. There was a time where, like, if you put. What do you think Shakespeare thought of that? Like, of all the songs being made. Check. Is Juliet. Juliet by Ellen. Like, what do you think he made of popular culture? Taking his timeless love story, kind of a story of star crossed lovers, if you will, and making it mainstream.
A
I think he would have loved that. And he would have like, totally. He would have been, like. I called it, like. I think Shakespeare saw himself as being someone that would inspire generations of music and prose.
B
Rest in peace, William Shakespeare. You would have loved Elementes. Juliet.
A
You would have loved we the Kings.
B
You really would have.
A
He would have been sat front row.
B
Like, when Ben is, like, drinking, which he never does. But, like, if you get Ben drunk and give him the ox, the first song he will play is Check. Yes, Juliet. The second is Timber by Kesha and Pitbull.
A
All I have to say is, in vino veritas, 100% in wine, there is truth. Those are factually good songs.
B
It's so true. And then he'll go like, Red Hot Chili Pepper. So that's where he loses me. But he has this one Red Hot Chili Pepper song that he likes, which is fine. Like, everybody's allowed to like. Like, the Red Hot Chili Peppers. But the version.
A
Are they allowed? No, I feel like they're not allowed.
B
The version that he likes is a SoundCloud remix. So, like, you have to wait for him to find it on SoundCloud. Genuinely painful.
A
Like, you should. You should bookmark it in his phone. By the time.
B
By the time he gets there, like, I'm so done with him. Like, I'm not helping.
A
Right? Right.
B
Like, I know when we reach Red Hot Chili Peppers, like, in an Uber.
A
Or something, I'm like, the night's over.
B
Ben has to go home. He's gonna throw up.
A
Are you ready for our next story? Number three?
B
Yeah.
A
So this is a story that's been, like, swirling for a while. It seemed a little. It seemed a little unbelievable. But now the truth about Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's divorce book has been revealed. So a Vanity Fair cover story published last week alleged that Meghan's team had quietly held talks with an unnamed publishing house to gauge interest in the idea for the book.
B
However, this Vanity Fair article, which we didn't talk about, we must have been off.
A
No. Because. No, I. I saw it a bunch of times, but I was just like, there's no way. Like, they're not.
B
But it was, like, overwhelmingly negative. And I feel like it was, like, marked, like, a real shift in, like, the media's portrayal of those two. It was, like. It was kind of like a hit piece. And I think the craziest part. Yes, Divorce book, was the podcast Harry. I almost said Harry Styles. Prince Harry was shopping around about psychopaths.
A
Oh, I didn't even see that.
B
Okay, so you share yours, and I'll find the Psychopath thing. It was so funny.
A
Well, so that article's been, like, circulating for a while that she was shopping around this divorce book, which I just found to be, like, highly unbelievable. And now a source was worked closely with. The couple told Page Six that Meghan and Harry know that they are tied together. Their value isn't being a couple. Even if they wanted to split, they couldn't. And honestly, they are obsessed with each other. They're just two narcissists, this person said. However, it does appear that the. They just put feelers out to see what if a divorce book would be interesting to people. But.
B
But about her divorce or about divorce in general?
A
No, about divorce from him. It's like, we'll get. That's why I don't believe it's like, we would get divorced. If people will buy this book. What about your actual life?
B
And.
A
And then this article also says they. They do. They are obsessed with each other. So it's like you would just, like, do it for a bit, for content. They are running out of things to talk about. They've really, like, sold every single part of their personal lives and their history. But that feels really crazy to me.
B
Okay, so a former staffer asserted that, quote, they had this idea to do a podcast because they knew that a lot of celebrities did them. And it becomes clear that neither couple member actually had any strong ideas of what to do with the audio format, which is how you get to the Sociopath show, which supposedly grew out of Harry noticing that despite suffering some of the world's most famous childhood trauma, he did not grow up to be a sociopath. So why did guys like Vladimir Putin. We really. This is someone's recap of it. We genuinely wish this article had gone forward. So basically, his idea was to interview, like, the world's most powerful men. And how they're all, like, kind of sociopaths, like Mark Zuckerberg types. Like, how they're also crazy from the purview of, like, I grew up, I have childhood trauma, but I'm not a sociopath. Why are you? And of course, the idea was squash. Who the fuck would sit down for that interview? Like, you're gonna call me crazy? You're crazy. It was one of the craziest ideas for a podcast ever.
A
That's so crazy. I thought it would be like him going in jails and interviewing actual.
B
That would be interesting.
A
Like world leaders and influencers like Mark Zuckerberg. It's like, hey, sociopath, how'd you get here? Yeah, no one would ever. That Would never happen.
B
Yeah, I, like, seriously. And under the guise of, like, powerful men become sociopaths. But it didn't happen to me. So let's put the spotlight on you, Vladimir Putin. And also, like.
A
And that Vladimir Putin is doing Prince Harry's podcast.
B
Honestly, I would watch it in two seconds.
A
Oh, my God.
B
That was the craziest part of the Vanity Fair article. Honestly.
A
So, no, this was crazy to me that, like, they would maybe get divorced for a book deal. I. I genuinely, like, don't, because that's so crazy to me that two people would do that. Especially, like, two people who seem to be very much in love and they are bound to one another. Like, I. I have a hard time believing it, but the publishing insider said they're worth more together. It doesn't benefit them to be apart. They have all their deals together. I think the Random House deal is much like the netf deal. Netflix just said yes to everything because they wanted to get the docu series, Harry and Megan. So they said, okay, we'll take the Polo show. What happens with Megan's lifestyle show.
B
Oh, that actually kind of makes sense for Netflix. But also, I don't know if I necessarily agree that they're more valuable together. I think at one point, yes. But now, like, if they actually got divorced and gave the level of insight they did in the documentary and in the books, like, how they did about the royal family, but about each other. Like, that's interesting, though.
A
Oh, it would be interesting, but it's not lasting. Like, what do you do after that? They need to find something lasting, not just, like, a moment in time. And they've really excavated every part of their own and shared history. So they do need to think about, like, what's next. And I do think that they're stronger together because you can justify all of the things that they did that you might have not liked because they were in love and protecting one another. If it turns out that they couldn't even make it, not even five years on the outside, like, what was this all for?
B
Yeah.
A
So interesting. But it also was reminding me of these rumors that are swirling. Have you seen the rumors that the Obamas are splitting up?
B
Okay, well, I saw that. And at first it was like, well, because she didn't go to Jimmy Carter's funeral, and then she didn't go to the inauguration.
A
So, like, I paid no mind.
B
Me neither. Because actually, if you've ever listened to Michelle Obama, she has spoken, like, very straightforwardly about how she, like, hated being the first Lady. She hates, like, the public life of being, like, a political first lady. So, yeah, the two events, like, why. Why should. I'm done? Like, leave me out of this.
A
I disagree with that. I think that even if. Whether you like it or not, like, that is your job in, like, in this country, like, that you go to those things. I just assumed she had a good reason for not going. Whether it was, like, something going on with her. I assumed she just had reason. Not because she didn't feel like going.
B
I feel like it was like, my. This is my husband's problem. Like, my husband was the president, and I'm like, out. I'm over it. By. And I was like, okay.
A
Honestly, you don't think Hillary Clinton feels that way? No, actually, like, that stranger.
B
No, but Hillary's, like, actively involved in politics. Like, that's her world, you know?
A
Yes. No, she had a position. Like, people also were probably saying, like, she didn't go to the inauguration because she didn't want to support Trump. But that doesn't explain why she didn't go to Jimmy Carter's funeral.
B
I know she has been noticeably absent from public life, so it led people to wonder.
A
Right. I don't think it says, like, simple as, like, she's over it. Because I just. That's when you're, like, a former first lady. Like, there are just things that you do, and I think. And she's done them in the past, so I don't think it's sad. I just thought maybe there was, like, something going on in her life that was. Or something with the kids where she just could not go. And that was enough for me. But it's shining a light on, like, these marital issues that people are saying that they are having and that they are splitting up. And then tier two of the Tier two.
B
Well, that's where things get interesting. Because I didn't think that they were splitting up, like, her not going to either. Because if you actually were splitting up and you would want to, like, avoid public, you would just go, like, yeah. So I didn't think that they were splitting up until my sister Olivia, who truly, like, operates in the strangest places on the Internet. Like, she's always, like, telling me crazy stories about, like, influencers. Like, I don't know where she gets this stuff. She texts us and she goes, has anybody heard the rumor that Obama and Jennifer Aniston are having an affair? And I was like, like, actually, no. And I hear everything.
A
No, I had not heard anything close to that. But then in the days since she said that, yes, I'VE seen a lot of people talking about it and, like, people that I respect and that don't just, like, say, like, baseless, crazy things. And now this morning, Jennifer Aniston has turned off her comments.
B
Right. Which, by the way, if. Because the conspiracy theory has, like, gotten so big, I'm sure regardless of if there's truth behind it, she would turn off her comments. But, like, like, turning them off, like, does feel like an admission of guilt. Because if there was this, like, really wackadoodle story about her that was so baseless, like, what would you really need to hide from?
A
I don't know.
B
And I just want to say I could see these two, like, getting along. Is that crazy?
A
You see it? Yeah, I see it. Like, that's not so very age appropriate.
B
Like, I don't know, they kind of, like, very weirdly make sense.
A
No, I agree at first.
B
I can't get on this train unless somebody gives me, like, a real piece of proof. Like, I need something. Because if I get on, like, I'll never get off. I'll think that they're together for the rest of my life.
A
I saw Megan McCain talking about it and, like, she is.
B
So let's reach the political sphere.
A
Like, and she. I feel like she wouldn't just, like, spew nonsense if she didn't have, like, people who really think that's true.
B
Turning off her comments, like, really does add a layer of validity to what was like this sort of crazy, outlandish, Olivia Ashrae rumor.
A
Like, not validity, but it just means that, like, seriously, it's so big that.
B
It'S gotten to her.
A
Yeah. It's not like this just random thing that a couple of us heard.
B
No. And given, you know, Michelle not showing.
A
Up, I think also house inhabit was talking about it.
B
Okay, but like, that, to me, that. That is still very much like Internet.
A
Right, Right, right.
B
That doesn't give it any credibility to me. But yes, now the Instagram comments being turned off, that's something.
A
Or I know maybe she's getting prepared for an announcement, but also, like, if I'm announcing of her new relationship, if.
B
I'm Michelle, obviously, like any has anyone's husband having an affair is, like, egregious. But I'm mad because, like I said, like, she very vocally, like, hated that life. She did it for him. It was like his big dream. And so like, she gave up eight years of her life for this man just for him to go and cheat on her With Jennifer Aniston, like, it's almost too egregious. To even be true.
A
Well, I feel like the rumors that I'm seeing, it's that not only is this they are splitting up and he's with Jennifer now, it's that they've been living separate lives for a long time. Like, Michelle might have a boyfriend as well. Like, I don't think it was necessarily cheating as more. So moving on, who do we see Michelle with?
B
Shemar more older women love Shemar Moore. Shemar more loves older women. They're literally the same age. They're both like celebrities. Shemarmore even though I think he's married.
A
But I do feel like if the Obama split, then, like, Meghan and Harry, like, it's a green light. Copy them.
B
Yeah, just like everything else. Well, no, they're, like, gonna watch. They're sort of like their guinea pigs. Like, let's see if it works out. Do they get bigger book deals? Do they get bigger Netflix?
A
And if they tell them that they are not them. No, they are not to them.
B
Well, I think that I could have seen that becoming their life when they left. That's. That's what I thought they were going to become very much like the Obamas. And they didn't because they really. I think they needed the money. So they did a lot of things that were, like, a little, like, tacky. That, like, like, you know, the Obamas would never have done.
A
You know, they weren't even at the birthday party, like, for me, that they weren't invited, like.
B
Right.
A
They're not anywhere.
B
Yeah.
A
Where the people are.
B
So I do think they see themselves as the same tier as the Obamas. And I have to say that they're not.
A
Yeah, agreed. But anyways, just. That was one I didn't see coming this week, even though it hasn't come yet. It's just rumors.
B
It's just rumor.
A
Yeah. Are you ready for our next story?
B
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A
Thank you. Totally.
B
You're welcome, Jolie.
A
Our next story, Little vanderpump rules. Nuls Newles Ali Luber announces that she has split from James Kennedy after his domestic violence arrest. So she put out a statement clarifying their relationship status and the details of his d the incident. She said, thank you all for your support and kindness. I am happy that prosecutors decided not to file against James, as I never desired criminal charges. We had an argument outside of his home related to him drinking again. However, I was not physically hurt. I was shocked by the headlines and disheartened by how the event was portrayed. We are no longer together, but I'll always support James and wish him the best with his sobriety and healing. Thank you for understanding. Ending. So there's a lot in there.
B
Yeah. So I guess what she's saying, it's, like, so hard with situations like this because it could very well be the truth, but also, like, someone who's suffering from dv, like, wouldn't say, you know, so you're like, no, it's fine, you.
A
Know, like, yeah, but they're not together.
B
So if. If there was a time to speak her truth, I guess that would be it. Overall, like, I'm glad they're not together. Like, whether the event was blown out of proportion or it wasn't. Like, James is somebody who needs to work on himself. And I don't think Ali sometimes, like, a. A relationship can help somebody like that, like, who needs to desperately change. I don't think that this was that type of relationship. So he's somebody who needs to be on his own. I think.
A
I feel like it could have been, but I feel like for James, being on his own, like, is part of being at Rock bottom. I feel like when he has someone to lean on, like, he can just sort of put a band aid on stuff. So if he's like really at the bottom and needs to get sober and like take a lot of time to like be sober, it's better if he has to. It's a journey. You can only go alone. You can't do for someone else. You can't do it because someone else is making you. So I think he has to do it on his own. But I'm glad to know that like the incident that was pretty vague in the details when we reported on it, so it was hard to know the severity of it. Like, I'm glad that she was fine. Like he did not physically hurt her and that they're no longer together.
B
I hope that he leans on Lala. Like in this phase she's really somebody who, who has so. And maybe, you know, I don't think I'm wrong but like, you know, it could just appear that way. Like who seems to have a really good grip on sober life and also like understands how necessary, how vital it is for her to like continue living this great life. Work wise, mom wise. Like, sobriety is such a key part of that and I'm sure she struggles with it like anybody else does. But I think that he, she could be a great resource for him.
A
Yeah. And I think she always has been and she's there as much as he will.
B
You can only help someone as much as they want. Yeah.
A
Yeah. So it's nice to know that like he has friends that he could go to. But again, like, it's something that he has to do in the early days, like by himself. No one can do it for him.
B
Do you think that Ally would be a good castmate for the new Vanderpump Rules? Because she is sort of like this new gen. We know her. Maybe she's like a new single life. Like, did she ever work at Sir?
A
No, she never worked at Search because she still was doing birth charts. I, Yeah, I like her as a TV character. Like she had like a good eye on things, a good take on things.
B
Yes, she did.
A
Like, I liked her interviews and I, I felt like she was a very rational headed person. I, I do enjoy people like that. But I do think tabula rasa.
B
Yeah.
A
Not that she.
B
I saw a picture circulating that was like unconfirmed. Like I saw that and I didn't know anyone.
A
Me neither.
B
Which might be for the best. Yeah.
A
Tabula rasa.
B
I agree. Like in order. Even though, like Wheelhouses in New York is, like, so such a bad example of tabular asset, even though they. They're having, like, a record low, like, terrible season. But the season finale aired two nights ago, and I had seen a lot of hoopla for it before, and I'm like, sure, like, you guys just, like, need people to watch. Nobody's watching. But it actually was really crazy.
A
I didn't see what happened. I saw bits of it because I was watching Beverly Hills. So they kept, like, teasing it, but, like, they have to separate.
B
It's been Bryn versus Uber, huh? And Bryn was referencing, like, a trauma, like, a sexual abuse trauma from her childhood. And she said basically that, like, UBA knew about it and, like, threw it in her face. And then, like, Aaron and Sai were like, actually, she told us offline that she knows UBA didn't know about it. Like, that Uber wasn't ever intentionally trying to hurt her, but, like, whatever. And it all came out in the final episode, and the women were like, bryn, that's like, seriously the most up thing. Like, that's such an egregious allegation against uba, and you know it not to be true. And, like, you're just doing it for what. And that makes sense why a couple of months ago, when it was announced that Bryn's leaving, she must have known that this was coming. But then Bryn did a big interview in Rolling Stone as, like, her big final goodbye. Once the episode aired, she kind of, like, backtracked on the whole thing. So she's, like, taking no responsibility. I mean, I. I watched the first season. I did not watch this season. I will not be sad to see her go. I didn't think she was a particularly good housewife. I don't think really any of them are. I think there's, like, there's potential there with, like, Uber and Aaron, but I don't know where we go from here. Like, yeah, they had a great season finale. I don't think it's gonna resurrect the season. Like, I don't think people are now gonna go back on Peacock and watch the whole thing. Yeah, like, people like me, like, I'm interested. I heard about it on Twitter. Like, I think I know enough. Like, I'm good. Right?
A
But also just that the. The conflict, even though it sounds like, Juicy because everything was exposed, it sounds inherently, like, fake and produced. Because, like, Uber was. I mean, Brynn was just, like, saying something, like, a reaction, like, to make something look like something that it wasn't. And I don't like TV like, like I said, like an agent of chaos. Like, not some. There's no, like, history between the women. There's no truth there. She's just like, trying to make television and you can smell that from a mile away. So I'm glad that she is leaving because also that's. I've not watched the show aside from like, clips and in between other episodes of Housewives, but you could just tell she just is someone who's just trying to attach something up.
B
Yeah. So I don't know what it. Like how real houses in New York, like, what that indicates for like a Tabula rasa type of show.
A
Yeah.
B
Even though, like, Vanderpump Rules is like one of those younger gen shows on Bravo. Like, there's the Housewives, which is like older women. And that's why them going Housewives, but bringing in like, women in their 30s. Like, while it sounds cool, it's kind of inherently like the opposite of what the franchise is known for. Like, we like to see, like, these extravagant older women. It's. Nobody's putting them on tv. So this is so them going with like, young, hot things in New York. Like, cool. No, but also what you go to Housewives for.
A
No, but Vanderpump Rules has more potential because it's young people with nothing to lose, which is what the original cast was. Even with Roni, they know it's very formulaic. These are established women. They're not going to just like, like go wild on TV or they will. And it's like phony, but it's just not the same. So I think there's phony Roni. And I think just because Roni Tabula rasa didn't work out, like, that doesn't mean that you don't think it's a blanket statement. No, I think it was probably like, casting choices.
B
Yeah.
A
And a bunch of. And the show concept itself versus, like the enterprise. I still think there's potential.
B
Yeah. If they could just find some like, like people low down on their luck, looking for just like a job as a waitress. Oh. And you're gonna be on tv and they live in like, shoebox apartments. Like. Sure. And I feel like LA is full of those people.
A
But also I think the X factor for original Vanderpump Rules was the fact that they were friends with history. That you don't like, if it's someone that's a stranger, you don't care what you say to them or how you treat them. And then it's true. It just feels very wishy washy. So they could also. But there are friends out there. There are friends in Hollywood.
B
100.
A
Are you ready for our fifth and final story?
B
Yeah.
A
A little documentary news because Aaron and Nick Carter's sister will tell the family's extreme highs and tragic lows in a new documentary in from Paramount. Plus I.
B
This is like at one point something I would have been interested in and now it's like onto a place where. It's so sad.
A
It's so sad.
B
There's so much I actually don't want to know.
A
Tragedy here. No, just everything that we know about the Carters in the last few years and, and really like the last one standing is Nick who has all of these like, like sexual assault allegations against him and like things that even Aaron had said before he passed. Like, it's just tough. So anyway, Solel Moon Fry is set to direct the Carters, a new two part documentary that looks at the extreme highs and tragic lows of the Carter family, including Factory Boys member Nick Carter and pop star Aaron Carter, who died in 2022.
B
This is like so dark. I feel like every time you peel back the curtain on like the Carter family, it's so much worse than you ever imagined. Especially given the fact that they were like the these, you know, bright eyed, bushy tailed, young, talented boys who America loved and they were both killing it and they had blonde hair. Like it was just, it was so pargy and so innocent. And then to know what was really going on, I feel like I still don't even know like 70 of it. It's so disturbing and I understand why that makes a good documentary. But it's, it's actually, it's an American tragedy.
A
It is. The show will be from the point of view of angel, who's Aaron's twin sister, and will feature interviews with close family friends including Melissa Joan Hart and Scout Willis, as well as never.
B
Oh, wow.
A
Seen home movies from the family. And then just a reminder of just some of the tragedy that the family has experienced. Aaron passed away in 2002, but their nick and angel sister Leslie died of an apparent overdose in 2012.
B
Wait, 2002?
A
Yeah, that's when he died. Aaron Carter. Aaron Carter, 2022. Sorry, I missed it too.
B
6.
A
Sorry.
B
Okay.
A
Their father died of a heart attack in 2017 and then Aaron died from accidental drowning in 2022. And their other sister, Bobby Jean died of an accidental overdose in 2023. And then Nick has faced a slew of sexual misconduct allegations all over.
B
And Aaron had said. Right. So while Aaron was like Struggling in his last time here on Earth. Like, he was going live on social media and, like, sharing some really kind of crazy things about his childhood that I think at the time, maybe people had written off because he was so visibly hurting and didn't look like somebody who was just, like, you know, telling the truth. And after he passed and then these allegations about Nick came out and the sister has spoken a little bit about it, it was like, oh, wait, maybe, like, he wasn't crazy, Aaron. Like, maybe he was, like, deeply hurting and actually telling us the truth about the craziness of his childhood.
A
Yeah. So let's see what comes out in the documentary. Even though this isn't set to be, like, an expose, it's a labor of love for her family.
B
She's Nick a part of it.
A
I didn't say, like, interviews from Nick, but she said, by sharing our true story, one shaped by loss, resilience, and healing, I hope to honor our journey and transform our past into a message of hope and purpose for others facing similar challenges. So it doesn't seem like it's gonna.
B
Be, like, Expose, but if Nick isn't a part of it, there's so much about it that's, like, kind of Nick coded.
A
It doesn't. He might be, but they would have said, like, they would have said so. I don't know.
B
Maybe he's still deciding now that it's, like, picked up by Paramount Plus.
A
Right.
B
And, like, I think a streaming network thinks that, like, any documentary about, like, this time and these kids, you know, what was that Nickelodeon one called? Like, it's sort of a surefire way to go viral. Yeah, and it kind of is.
A
There's so much seem like this is an expose about Nick or anything. Like, take just their family story. Yeah, okay. I think so. That's coming out soon. Also, speaking of, you know, blast from the past news, yesterday the detectives discovered who Kristen Davis's boyfriend was who gave her $5,000 and never paid it.
B
Now, there were a couple of names being floated, primarily Mark Ruffalo, whom, you know, I wanted it to be because he's my nemesis. And of course, he would steal $5,000 from Kristen Davis, but it actually wasn't him. All signs point to James Vanderbeek being the man whom she dated, who then eventually went on to have great success, who now is married with a bunch of kids and lives out in the country, and who at one point had done interviews about how when he moved to la, he didn't even have a car. So a lot of it Kind of adds.
A
Started Dawson's Creek in 1998. So the timing lines up. However, it also makes sense why she didn't name him because he has just shared that he has cancer. So it's like not the time to like drag it pile on. So I take back what I've said that she needs the 5,000.
B
He needs the $5,000.
A
She shouldn't have named him. But now the story is whole and it doesn't make me like him any less. I. I very much like him.
B
That's the thing about James Vanderbieke. People really love him. And like even if she had said it was James Vanderbeek, they. It wouldn't have been like cancel James. It would have been like such a cutie.
A
Yeah. Do you know he did what it took to make it to the to.
B
Get and look at and it paid off. That was a beautiful family.
A
Yeah. Yeah. So glad to have an answer on that.
B
Well, that's our show, you guys. It's Thursday. Tomorrow's Fry dairy and. And we've got one more show in the studio.
A
Oh, wow. It's gonna be a big one.
B
It's. Should we get balloons or stuff? Like, should we do something?
A
Goodbye. Goodbye. You were bigger than the whole sky. You were more than just a short time.
B
You were more than just a short time. I'll have you know that these four walls came down around us.
A
I'm gonna do a tick tock.
B
Like, wait, wait, Jackie, wait.
A
Oh, I've got a lot to think about. I'm never gonna need what could have been, would have been what should we shouldn't have someone make a mashup now that we know. But not of those two music producers.
B
No, no. I don't like that. I am going to make a tick tock like a transition where I'm still in this studio and I'm gonna say these four walls came down around us and then cover the camera and I move my hand and I'm in the new studio. Must have been something send. It's like this sort of like fresh start.
A
Hard love that fire.
B
So many content ideas.
A
So I mean there's gonna be so many transitions reels. Right.
B
That's what tomorrow after we wrap the show, like I have to get to work filming.
A
Yeah. On the transition reels. If any of you want to mash up these two songs like that would mean so much to me.
B
Help. It would be helpful.
A
It would be helpful definitely for the transition reels for sure.
B
You guys, thank you so much. Listening to the toast of the only morning show where we Deliver stories anytime. YouTube. Please subscribe this video Thumbs up. Also pockets in our podcast we found on Spotify Juice Drop upgrade. Bye beautiful Sunday Wrigley Town did we love you bye.
Podcast Summary: The Toast – SATs & Pop Culture Conspiracies (January 23, 2025)
Hosted by Jackie & Claudia Oshry
Timestamp: 00:03 - 02:00
Jackie and Claudia open the episode by delving into the ongoing drama surrounding the Cyrus family. They express their deep investment in the family's dynamics, citing childhood memories and entertainment value as key reasons for their interest.
They share a humorous anecdote about misidentifying one of Jackie's children, leading to confusion and comical remarks about the child's sudden change in demeanor.
This segment highlights the family's intertwined personal lives and the challenges of maintaining clear boundaries, especially when integrating family jokes and inside references into their public personas.
Timestamp: 03:10 - 08:33
The conversation shifts to reminiscing about the standardized tests, SATs and ACTs, discussing their personal experiences and the evolving landscape of college admissions testing.
Jackie recounts her high SAT scores and how they influenced her college admissions, emphasizing the importance of a well-rounded application.
Claudia shares her struggles with the ACT, highlighting the pressure and competitiveness associated with standardized testing during their high school years.
The duo discusses the shift from SAT to ACT popularity, the introduction of accommodations for learning disabilities, and the overall impact these tests have had on their educational and professional trajectories.
Timestamp: 19:20 - 25:57
Jackie and Claudia analyze the recent Oscar nominations, focusing on the unexpected prominence of "The Brutalist" and "Amelia Perez." They critique the film's themes and the broader implications of its reception within the industry.
Claudia voices her skepticism about the film's acclaim, questioning its cultural sensitivity and the motivations behind its Oscar nominations.
The hosts also debate the performances of actors like Ariana Grande in "Wicked," expressing admiration despite the film's mainstream and commercial nature.
Timestamp: 30:16 - 45:19
The conversation ventures into the realm of celebrity rumors, discussing the alleged divorce plans of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle as reported by Vanity Fair. They dissect the credibility of such reports and the potential motivations behind public statements.
Claudia challenges the plausibility of the couple considering divorce for a book deal, expressing doubt but acknowledging the media's fascination with their personal lives.
The hosts also touch upon rumors about the Obamas splitting up and the speculative nature of such claims, emphasizing the need for credible sources before accepting such narratives.
Timestamp: 59:30 - 64:10
Jackie and Claudia discuss the upcoming documentary "The Carters," which promises an in-depth look into the Carter family's struggles and triumphs. They reflect on the tragic losses within the family, including the deaths of Aaron Carter and his siblings, and the impact of these events on public perception.
They express a mix of anticipation and sorrow, considering how the documentary may shed light on unresolved issues and allegations surrounding Nick Carter.
Timestamp: 52:06 - 58:57
The hosts analyze recent developments in the reality TV show "Vanderpump Rules," specifically focusing on Ali Lobel's split from James Kennedy following his domestic violence arrest. They navigate the complexities of public relationships, personal accountability, and the portrayal of real-life issues on television.
Claudia critiques the authenticity of certain storylines, suggesting that some conflicts may be fabricated for dramatic effect.
They discuss the potential future of the show, contemplating the impact of casting choices and the show's alignment with the broader "Real Housewives" franchise.
Timestamp: 65:00 - End
As the episode wraps up, Jackie and Claudia share light-hearted banter about transitioning to a new studio setup, hinting at fresh content and new beginnings.
They encourage listeners to engage with the show on various platforms, emphasizing the community aspect of "The Toast."
Claudia (21:17): "Nobody really fucks with this movie. Which is why the amount of nominations that it's getting is really so crazy."
Jackie (25:14): "She stole the show. She made it her own. She paid homage to the original character. She added flair. She should win."
Claudia (60:59): "This is like so dark. I feel like every time you peel back the curtain on the Carter family, it's so much worse than you ever imagined."
In this episode of "The Toast," Jackie and Claudia Oshry navigate a blend of personal anecdotes, reflections on academic pressures, critical analyses of recent Oscar nominations, and deep dives into celebrity rumors and reality TV dynamics. Their candid conversations, punctuated with humor and poignant insights, offer listeners a comprehensive look into both their lives and the broader pop culture landscape. Notably, their discussions on the Cyrus family's internal struggles and the Carter family's tragic ordeals provide a window into the complexities of fame and personal resilience.
For those who haven't tuned into "The Toast," this episode serves as an engaging exploration of how personal experiences intersect with public narratives, all delivered with the hosts' signature blend of wit and sincerity.