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Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast.
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It's Jackson Claude and we're your host.
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It's your favorite show.
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The best five things you need to know.
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We'll start your day off swirly. It's the Toast.
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They sound amazing.
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Welcome back to the Toast and happy. Is it Wednesday? I knew I felt a little something for my sister.
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Six o'.
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Clock, it's hump day. Don't forget Tom Swan youn love. And speaking of somebody I love, I'm joined today by kind of an iconic queen wearing a slicked back bun, Jacqueline follet. Hello, Ms. Foley.
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It's Wednesday. So if you're following my trajectory of hairstyles throughout the week, which is, you know, a very predictable journey, it's a bun day. This is as my hair fades into oiliness.
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It's funny. I also have like a weekly hair schedule because I start I usually wash my hair on Sunday and I start strong. Monday I started. I try to make it like as far into the week as I can before I have to wash it again. And so on day one, like I always look like I'm wearing a wig. Like when I have fresh like blown out Dyson air wrapped hair, it's giving shade all like it's giving religious woman wearing a wig. And as the days progress, like I look more and more like I'm just wearing my own hair.
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Oh, that's beautiful. Day one is always very exciting for me. And right now as I am experiencing a change of hair and I'm using like a lot of serums and oils, my window of hair washing ratio is smaller than usual. I usually can go like from Sunday to Friday.
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You have night sweats.
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Not to brag. Do I have night sweats? Not at the moment, no.
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Okay. Like when I was breastfeeding, like they never went away. So I would wake up every day like drenched.
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Oh, no, no, no, no. I'm okay on that front. But more so like I'm using like, you know, divvy and oil to help grow my hair. So like I don't have as much life per wash, per se.
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Now. Do I look different to you in any way? Like May?
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Couple things. Couple things. You're wearing a new sweater that I really love and I feel like it should be mine. It's so me.
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Oh my God. Okay.
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Is that what it was?
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No, it comes with matching pants, but it was like a little too hot to wear the pants. And yeah, I bought it at J. Crew. I'm kind of like actually sorry. I bought it at J Crew Factory, which I just learned is, like, Nordstrom rack.
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Like, oh, my God.
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Oh, my God. I got three pairs of pants and a matching set. I'm obsessed with J.
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Crew Factory of the diffusion stores.
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Oh, man, I didn't know there were so many. Like, I knew the OG's, TJ Maxx,
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Marshalls home goods office.
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Okay. So I didn't really realize that saxophone is also one of those, but it's, like, a higher tier, so the pricing is still, like, a little nutty.
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Neiman Marcus, last call.
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Yeah. J. Crew Factory. I think you should head over to J. Crew Factory. You would love. And I'll send you a link for my set. But what else did you want to point out? That it looks different about me today.
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I'm into a scan.
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It's something that you maybe may not be able to see, but more so feel.
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Okay, what am I feeling from you?
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Are you feeling, like, a sense of maturity and elegance and sort of just like, well read?
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Yes. I will say yes, because that sweater looks like a sweater of a woman who's mature, elegant, and well read.
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Well, that makes sense, because I did read with my partner in bed last night.
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How was it? Was it everything we ever dreamed of?
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I just have to tell you something. Like, we're still working through it. It was so quiet. Like, I could put the TV on in the background because then I would just watch tv. But, like, it was dead silent.
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But that's part of maturation, is being comfortable in silence.
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Aside from.
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And it's not even silent because you're reading.
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It was great. First of all, I've been. I actually have not read a full book in probably a year. Like, I've been so bad. But I got a book in the mail from Allison Pataki. Yeah, that's right. We're friends with Allison Pataki.
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She wrote the Marvelous, marvelous, magnificent Marjorie Post.
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Our favorite book ever. Yeah, I mean, she writes, like, swirly autobiographies.
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She writes swirly historical fiction books based on real characters. But she adds an element of swirliness so that we can digest it.
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So she has a new one coming out, and she DMed me, was like, can I send it? I was like, of course. I'm like, this is gonna be the thing now. When I got the book in the mail yesterday, I was a little disheartened because it looks like huge, enormous. It looks like, help me. My book.
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My demon Copperhead.
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Demon Copperhead. It's as thick as demon copperhead, but
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it's not without the clout.
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I'm going to do it. There was like, a party girl on the COVID You know, I called it
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Girl, which is really a great name for anything it's giving Gossip Girl.
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Like, on the COVID is a woman, but, like, nose down, you know, decolletage. And I said, I could do it. I'm going to do it. And I. I told you guys last week that I bought Ben a book. And it was supposed to be a Shabbat book, but I said, let's read. Let's read. Of course it took, like, a little. He's like, I'm not in the mood. I'm like, well, no one's in the mood to read. You just, like, sort of have to do it. So we read for, I wanna say, an hour. It was great. And then, like, when we went to sleep, he was like, tell me about your book. And I was like, tell me. And I understand, based on what Ben told me, like, why you would never recommend this book, but why it's perfect for Ben. Cause he's telling me that the book is from multiple POVs.
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Snitch's least favorite, if you're a redhead, you know that.
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And I don't know if Snitch knows that. There's a genre of book where, like, One of the POVs is a human and the other is an octopus. So when Ben's saying that, like, one of the book's perspectives is written from the perspective of an octopus and the other is of the person who works in the aquarium where the octopus lives, I was like, oh, we have to throw the book in the garbage. But Ben, of course, like, Ben is so connected with marine wildlife. I'm like, oh, my God, I picked the perfect book for my husband. And he was saying, like, that the octopus really wants to get out of the aquarium. And I was like, this is so bad. Like, he loved it. So a plus to me for picking a buck for my husband. Like, it's perfect.
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Did the evening go off? Like, well, would you do it again? Would you recommend to a friend? Yes.
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And we both fell asleep very quickly. We weren't like, you know, w tightly from all the blue screens, you know?
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Right.
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And we went to bed at like, 9:30, just like peaceful adults. So much maturation happening in my bedroom last night.
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Wow. Wow. I'm really proud of you guys.
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And the book is great, of course.
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Oh, good.
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Yeah, it's really good. It's very gilded age meets. Almost like Evelyn Hugo.
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I'm on my way.
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Yeah, it's really good.
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Say less, bestie. Yeah, I saw a TikTok last night, that was like, how two Gen Z that was cringe each other.
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And I was like, gen Z. Okay.
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And it was like, they just talk.
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No. Like, you know that how they talk.
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Well, yeah. They don't say anything. They're like, no, stop. Because, like, same. And it was just like, really funny back and forth. And I'm like, I'm enjoying watching this, but it's going to affect how I speak.
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Yeah.
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And I never want to speak like that. Say less, bestie.
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Okay. Say more, queenie. That's what we say. Because we encourage dialogue here at the toast.
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We do.
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We do.
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I really enjoyed the TikTok, but. Or the real.
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I was going to say you watching TikToks in your Tesla.
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I watched TikTok to real pipeline. Of course.
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Of course.
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And I just didn't want it to affect me, but it seems like it has. You're getting smarter. I'm getting stupider.
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It's so true. Join me up here. I'm leveling up, everyone.
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I'm reading and I watched Summer House. Yikes.
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Oh, yeah. I'm kind of, like, taking the moral high ground.
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Well, I mean, I finished a book last week, so I'm kind of like, I'm good for the month.
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I'm good for the year.
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I'm set.
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Yeah.
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So I was able to watch Summer House last night. I'll do a recap at the end. Nothing crazy. We're still setting the stage. We're still meeting new people. Dara's here. Oh, say hello to Dara, Talker. I like Dara. She has a lot of confidence, and she's coming in solo.
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She's pretty.
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She's very pretty. But it's crazy to have someone come in solo in the middle of the summer. Like, why would you do that to someone when other girls got to come with friends? The beginning of the summer, maybe production
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could, like, was getting the feeling that something wasn't working, and they just, like, throw someone else in there.
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Said, what about Dara?
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Yeah.
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So I really like her. But, like, she's just, you know, immediately, like, she's going, like, talking to guys, and it's like, everyone has a head start. It's a hard way to come in. Yeah, she's very confident. I don't think she's worried about that. But, like, I'm worried about that because I just have Lexi drama, and you're
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kind of like an empath.
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I'm sensing I am an empath and I have Lexi ptsd, ltsd.
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Of course you're not even an empath. You're a Lex path.
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And it's really hard to, like, watch the show without, like, being, like, justice for Lexi at every turn. Everything Jesse does, I'm like, Lexi. Yeah, what about Lexi? Imagine how Lexi felt.
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What else can I tell you?
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We celebrated Purim yesterday. Happy Purim to all.
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Purim. Samaya. I had about Bruhaman Boohaman. I had about three Hamantashian. If you know. You know, I love a fucking Hamantashen.
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Yeah, it's really a shortbread cookie.
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I will say, like, a lot of the cuisine of my people, like, is not my favorite. You know, it's just like, a lot of deli meat. And, like, I just don't love, like, Jewish cuisine. Of course, I love a kasha varnishka.
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But I would say, like, it's not enough. Course, I wouldn't say that's guaranteed.
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Yeah, for me, like, our cultural food to me, is, like, not my favorite.
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And which are you speaking, like, ashkenaz food? Because I like all. You don't like Svar food?
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I don't know if, you know, I grew up, like, with a really good friend who's Moroccan, so I ate a lot of Moroccan food. And I actually, you know, as her. She slayed the house down boots with those. With those meals.
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And you love, like, meat cigars.
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I do love meat cigars.
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And you love arias.
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Yeah, but that's like, Middle Eastern food. Like, I'm talking about cultural Jewish. Yeah, like, second Avenue deli type of prep. Ashkenazkana.
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Like, your Alicia wouldn't say that's Jewish. She didn't grow up with it.
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Ashkenaz fair yet Middle east is fartic.
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Yeah, okay.
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Ashkenaz fair.
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Okay.
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You know, gefilte fish. Just not my. My scene per se. Although we ate the house down. Love gefiltes with those hamentaschen.
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A little.
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Is it shortbread? It's like a crumb little pastry with a jam filling.
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It's a shortbread cookie.
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I love a strawberry hamantasian. So fucking delicious.
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And what's funny is you would think chocolate hamantaschen would be the best, but actually, no, it needs that light fruitiness.
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You would think that a chocolate hamantaschen would be the best, but it does
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need that fruityness, like, actually, shockingly the worst.
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Hamantaschen.
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Chocolate apricot hamantaschen greater than chocolate hamantashing. Yes, you taste it.
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The best. Stay with me. Strawberry is 32 on strawberry.
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There's really strawberry apricot, prune. Now, people get crazy. Prune. I saw a biscoff Hamentaschen yesterday.
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Well, I love when my people get creative. Of course.
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Yeah.
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But let's just speak of the traditional flavors.
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But you need that light fruitiness, so,
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yeah, sometimes you just need a little jam. I love jam, by the way.
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I love the final jam.
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Did I make my own jam when I had to steam and puree blueberries for Arubala? Is that true?
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So you would think. But no. Blueberry jam. Blue. Like, in order to make jam, you boil, you add lemon, sugar, salt, like, a bunch of stuff. So it's not an actual jam. When I made blueberry per.
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When I made blueberry puree food for rubella, it looked like, as ever with love.
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It did, but it didn't taste like it. I've not. I've never made jam. Even though you would think that's definitely
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next on your list.
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Yeah.
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Olivia makes chan.
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Yeah. Once I get back into the swing of things, right. And you know what's gonna get me back into the swing of things? Not to, like, put the cart before the horse, but, like, in a couple months when I am making baby food, that's how I got into, like, cooking from scratch to begin with because, like, I want to see what's in everything. And I'm about to go on that journey again. A little sourdough for Maxi. He will love it. He.
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He would love it.
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He would love it.
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What are the stories like today?
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A lot of content, news, like, lots of tv.
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Like, pilots, variety, Deadline.
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Yep. Yep.
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I love that. Deadline.
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Production deadline, I would say, is the theme of the episode. TV guide.
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Okay.
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Insider news. Should we get into it?
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We haven't dallied that much.
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Honestly, not in the mood.
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Okay. What else is going on with you? What do you think of Luke Home's new song, be by you?
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I don't. I haven't experienced it enough because I've fallen down a Teddy swims rabbit hole, and I can't get up.
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You should get up, because Luke comes. This new song is so good.
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I think I listen to it, wanna
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make love wake up next to you with no makeup on.
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So unfortunately, like, my hormonal journey right now, like, only has me listening to, like, soulful and. Or house music. House. Yeah. I just love the beats now. I do think when I stop breastfeeding, like, and I have that hormonal change, like, maybe I'll be feeling country music, but, like, this is really crazy to say, like, I'm not listening to any country music right now. That's Just, like, not what the hormones have in store for me.
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Okay.
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I know. Usually that's, like, all I crave.
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Yeah.
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But I'm listening to my body.
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Yeah.
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My body wants David Guetta. What are you going to do about it? You can't fight nature.
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Can I circle back quickly to something we spoke about yesterday? Just, like, a brief update for the fans? I'm not going to be on Roni, but I have heard, because I haven't heard from Haley Glassman. I mean, she blocked me, but she doesn't post anything. Whatever. And apparently, like, her comeback is that I made everything up. She said, like, I'm lying, and all these are fake screenshots.
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Okay.
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Yeah. So that's what I did on over the weekend. I made up screenshots. I actually screen. I'm glad I screen recorded. That's really our entire thread before she blocked me, just in case, like, I needed receipts. And she did block me.
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So I just want to say, like, given everything I'm seeing, like, sounds amazing. She's gonna be, like, an amazingly crazy housewife.
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It's giving one season wonder. Like, it'll be a crazy, nutty season where something happens. No.
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Yeah, because we need to be, like, anchored to the truth.
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The truth will set you free.
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But, like, okay, let's see what happens
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when you throw a crazy person in the mix.
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Yeah, that was, like, I say, like,
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I feel like I was very graceful yesterday. I did say forgive her, even though she didn't apologize. And now she's over here slandering me, saying I'm lying. So, like, now she's officially my enemy.
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She's got to protect Haley self. Like, someone I imagine getting on Roni is, like, the most amazing thing that could happen. And she's not about to going down.
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She's not about to let her. Like, she's not going down with turd ship. Yeah, right.
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She will throw you under that ship.
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I won't go down with this ship.
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And we're not here to throw her off the ship.
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We're just said don't fire her. Like, I literally came on this show. We just want to. So supportive of my childhood bully, and there she is now accusing me of lying.
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We want to have a quorum on the ship. I think. You know what? Talk about who was bullying.
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There's only one way for this saga to end. Have her on the toast a thousand percent. The invitation is open. I think that would make, like, really amazing content.
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Really?
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Yeah. We would just sit here and be like, it will kind of be, like, a Study into the mind of a troll. Let's see if she will be open about it.
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Okay.
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And I'm down to sit down with my biggest fan. Like, okay, that's so exciting. People are always saying, oh, you should have toasters on the show. Here we go.
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I think it'll be a one on one.
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You're not coming. You better be my bully. You're not gonna have my back against the schoolyard bully.
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I'll have your back. But that doesn't sound like this. What? That's what this is.
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Well, I have to see what sort of energy, like, I will be receptive to. Like, whatever sits in front of me.
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And one thing about me, maybe for you as well. Like, when someone says sorry. Like, the power of a sorry absolved.
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So actually when somebody says sorry to me, like, everything I felt before flips. And I actually feel bad that, like, I brought this person to the place of saying sorry. Like, I had to debase them into an apology. Like, I can't receive an apology without feeling so guilty.
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Yeah.
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Really, I'm like, it wasn't that big of a deal. I don't know why I was, like, so upset.
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I'm so ready to move on after a genuine sorry. Which is why I appreciate, like, a real apology. But when I get a real apology.
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Jackie. It's Haley Joel Osment.
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Oh, my God.
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Using an anti Semitic slur to a police officer. And the next morning, like, writing up one of the most heartfelt apologies. He was like, I fully blacked out. I don't use that word. I don't know why I said it. I feel awful. Like, one thing about me. I'm hilly Joel Osman, Summer 1 fan. Like, that's on take. When we say accountability, a word that has truly lost its meaning. I'm talking about Haley Joel Osmond the morning after his arrest. Okay.
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That's why I don't like, like, phony, like, bullshit apologies. Because you take the power out of an apology. And I think an apology is so powerful.
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I totally agree. So the power of forgiveness is so real.
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It is. I find myself to be, like, a very forgiving person.
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Three words. Haley Joel Osmond.
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The proof is in the Joel.
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Like, if you ever want to know how truly graceful and forgiving we are, just watch the episode where we heard that Haley Joe Lawsman used the K word. Okay.
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And then we were, like, mad at ourselves.
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We were like, maybe the officer was. That's the power of a good apology. Like, it can get you to really swing.
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So true. It's so true. True that.
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I hope he's doing well, but I
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feel like we are unique in that.
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Yeah.
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Other people, like, they want you to apologize and to grovel.
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No, but other people also demand apologies. No matter the genuine don't apologize.
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They demand apologies and then they don't forgive. So don't demand.
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Right.
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Don't apologize if you're not going to forgive. But that's on everyone else, not the two women sitting here.
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Right. Sort of talking the talk and walking the walk. Three word tillage announcement.
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Yeah. Yeah. Okay, now, now I feel right.
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I feel like we made a good point and like we should just end on a win, you know?
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Before we like fuck it up.
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Yeah. Right.
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Without further ado, to do. To do. It is time for the Fast 5 stories that you to do need to know.
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B
Oh my gosh, we're four days behind.
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A
That's so us forgetting about fellow woman.
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B
Totally.
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A
Well happy International Women's Month to you.
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B
You as well. I hope you celebrating should we celebrate
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A
International Women's Month by changing Businessman of the Week just for March to be Businesswoman of The week.
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B
That would actually be really amazing. But unfortunately, we've already crowned this week's businessman.
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A
And not only that, we're just really not those type of women. Because I support women all year long. I don't need a monthly reminder. I know some of, like, other women do. I don't.
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B
Yeah. Also, I feel like when you get into the month game, then you have to celebrate every month. And if you don't celebrate some months, like, it just. We'll never actually just be able to choose, like, the best business person, you know?
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Right.
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B
So I feel like, let the best business person be the businessman of the week.
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A
What you're saying is BMOTW is very much a meritocracy.
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B
It is a meritocracy. Okay. And. Well, now that you've said it, like, I do sort of want next week's to be a woman, because I just. I don't know, I feel like that's really beautiful.
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A
How about this? How about this? Let's see if any woman dazzles us.
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B
Yeah, I'll be on the lookout.
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A
Yep.
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Our first story. Not Carolyn Bessette. Sarah Pigeon, who plays Carolyn Bessette Kennedy in JFK Love Story or whatever the. It's called love story.
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The JFK Jr. And Carolyn Bessette Story.
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B
She's in Face of Road.
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Genius. I was waiting for Calvin Klein to do an undie thing with her and Paul Smith, whatever his name is. Paul Anthony. Paul Anthony Smith. Paul Smith. Anthony.
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I had no idea.
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Paul. And I was waiting for somebody to tap them. Very much like the skims model, where, like, someone's having a moment. I will say road acted very quickly. Slay the house down boots. I saw a tick tock of, like, how people are getting so, like, bent out of shape with Carolyn Bessette being like, rest in peace, Carolyn Bessette. You would have loved Pilates. And it was. Oh, it was a. It was a podcast clip from Fluently Forward. It was like, rest in peace, Carolyn Bessette. You would have loved Macha. And it's like Macha and Pilates were around with Carolyn Beset. She was chain smoking in her apartment. Was a dump. Like, she's not the. You think she was. Like, her hair was always messy. Like, you guys are just, like, putting your clean girl aesthetic.
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B
Like, no, the thing is, like, she was the it girl of the time. And the it girls then were choking cigarettes. Yes. Now the it girls are doing Matcha Pilates. She would have. I'm with them. She would have loved Matcha and Pilates.
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I want to say, I do think people are getting. And a cigarette really are, like, bent out of shaping, like, cannabis set core. Although it's very much like when Sofia Richie, like, went viral for her style and everybody started dressing, like, nicely. Yeah. Wear your black trousers.
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B
Having a good effect.
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A
It's having a nice. I think everybody's looking really nice and, like, sort of polished and business casual. So I like that.
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B
I like that, too.
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A
Sarah Pigeon is insanely gorgeous. I didn't realize her background at all. I never watched her original show the Wilds, which I actually think I might have seen the first episode of, where, like, a plane crashes on an island with, like, a bunch of girls going to, like, a troubled youth school. And she's, like, one of the girls, I think. And so people really loved it. It was very much like a. The society. It got canceled and, like, there was a really niche following. But she also has a background on Broadway because I saw this clip of her doing npr Tiny Desk singing.
- [22:30]
B
Oh, wow.
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A
And she had, like, black hair. I'm like, is that Carolyn Bassett Kennedy? Yeah. She was on, like, a. Yeah, she
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B
used to have brown hair. She talks about it. She was interviewed in Vogue for being the new face of Road, talking about beauty, talking about how she's lo as a blonde and she's going to stay a blonde, like, until she has to change for her next role and being the face of Road. And I know, like, Road is big business, but I feel like this is a major move for Road.
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A
Yes. It's their first, like, very much entering this level of, like, kind of the skims model. I don't know who was doing it before skims. Like Victoria's Secret angel, almost, like.
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B
Yeah. But they also had Tate McCrae for the lip liners.
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A
I know. And I don't feel like that really moved. Like, it was exciting for, like, young girls on TikTok, but outside of that. Yeah, I don't feel like it was nearly as exciting.
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B
So this isn't their, like, first face, just to say. But I don't know, it's a really great face for the brand. And I don't. I don't know why. Like, I feel like they. I'm shocked that she did this, you
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A
know, And Sarah Pigeon.
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B
Yeah. Because it seems such a big deal right now. She could have any beauty campaign in the world. Yeah. No, but it's great for Road that they got her, and I think it's great for her. And I think this is a really well matched. But I'm.
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A
I'm.
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B
It didn't Seem so obvious to me.
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A
No, of course not. It's also a big deal because, like, this company became a billion dollar company off of one face. And I think the goal is that, like, Road could flourish without Haley. And it's just like a skincare brand that everybody knows and loves that was happened to be started by Hailey Bieber. So them sort of like passing the baton onto a new face is a big deal.
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B
No, Carolyn would have loved road.
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When Tate McCray did was just like a campaign. It wasn't like, she's the new face and she was just kind of just like a model in a commercial. It wasn't. I don't know, it wasn't like a passing of the baton.
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B
No. But it's like if she launched. This one never happened. If she launched lip liners and had, like, Kylie, like, Kylie is the face of lip liner. Like, that's how I feel about Sarah Pigeon and Carolyn Bissette. Like, they really are, like the clean girl personified on TV right now. And it's. It makes a lot of sense.
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A
The campaign itself is Gorgina. She has, like, glowy, dewy skin, lots of blush, like, the very road aesthetic. She's wearing pink. I loved it. Like, I thought this was such a slay. Creatively. I thought it was a great choice for Sarah Pigeon. Not an obvious choice. I'm sure she has a lot of options. I thought it was a great choice for her, an amazing get for them. And I just know, like, Kim is freaking. Like, this is so. Oh, like skins.
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B
Yeah, it is.
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A
And because of the Calvin Klein of it all, too, and how Kim's, like, swims. Sorry. Underwear, like, lingerie shoots have kind of become the new Brooke Shields, Mark Wahlberg, Calvin Klein era. I'm sure, like, she's kind of pissed.
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B
Yeah. And I do think them doing Calvin Klein ad, like, would have been too on the nose, but I think them doing skims together, JFK and Sarah would have been what we would have thought would happen.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And honestly, it's still good because this is just beauty. She can still, like, sell undies. No, of course.
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A
But, like, getting it first. I was really waiting for the Calvin Klein Klein. I don't know if, like, Calvin Klein hates this show and is not going to get involved because he's being portrayed as like a kind of an. So maybe that's why they didn't do it.
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B
Yeah.
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A
But it's a missed out. I'm sure it was floated at, like a Calvin Klein headquarters. They're like, should we ask?
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And they were like, no, no, honestly, I'm waiting for skins. I think skims could still happen.
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A
It would have been a slight if it came out before road, but.
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B
But it's two different things, and I think we should have both because they sound both really parchy.
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A
I love this.
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B
Yeah, I agree. All in all, like, the effect that the show is having on culture is a net positive and I'm seeing a lot of content, but it's not, like, bothering me.
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A
No, no. I love it, like, get trusted me. Like, as if I was Carolyn Bessette or I saw some girl being like, I worked for Ethel Kennedy for three years. I think she, like, worked in her home and how, like, so many of the rules were so strict. You had to serve from the left, but take away from the right. Like, I mean, if you didn't, like, you got in trouble. But she was, like, a really amazing lady. And then, of course, Taylor.
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B
Starlight. You mean Starlight, Taylor Swift's era.
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A
Apparently, Ethel loved Taylor, like, and loved the song about her. Like, she thought it was amazing.
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B
I said, oh, my. It's a great. So a marvelous tune. We had the best night. Never would forget how we moved.
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A
The whole place was Dance to the
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B
Nines and we were dancing, dancing.
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A
I wonder if Taylor's watching Love Story or it's, like, too close. She, like, met some of these people.
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B
I think she is watching because I think she's in her TV era right
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A
now and she, like, kind of had the world having the experience that she had 10 years ago where she became obsessed with the Kennedys, but she just had access and started dating one of them.
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B
Yes. Also, upon further review and seeing video interview of Jack Schlossberg, I think he's mad at the show because I think he would have wanted to play jfk.
- [26:54]
A
That's such a hot take. I haven't heard anybody say that.
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B
Yeah, no. When I saw him, I'm like, you know, he kind of looks like him. And after Michael Jackson's nephew was playing Michael Jackson and they had the hardest time casting, why not the nephew?
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A
Yeah. What if you just. That's not a bad call. Although I don't think the concept of being upset at, like, a fictionalized show about, like, people in your family who died tragically. Like, I. I feel like that happens a lot. Like, they make movies or Pamela Anderson. Like, nobody likes the thing, but I feel like he's coming out so hard against it while also benefiting from it so greatly. It's like, well, just be quiet and, like, enjoy the attention because you like, need it.
- [27:30]
B
Maybe some of the details are wrong in the personality. They have nothing to go on. But at the end of the day, as a whole, the show is a love story to JFK and Carolyn, and it's overwhelming, showing them in a positive
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A
light a thousand percent.
- [27:44]
B
So, yeah, maybe the details aren't what, how you. The how. How it happen happened, but overall, I feel like it's a good thing. It's introducing a lot of people to them. No.
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A
And it's resurging this, like, obsession with the Kennedy dynasty. And, like, now we're looking for, you know, Rando Kennedys, and he's won, so it's like. And he's running for Congress, so, like, you would think in the political space, like, it's so beneficial for him. He is really sort of riding the coattails of it while also slamming it.
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B
You know, who else could have played jfk? He's a little young, but he's related.
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A
Connor. Patrick Schwarzenegger, I believe I read somewhere. Thank you for reminding me. Ryan. He was Ryan Murphy's. Like, there's something. Maybe he. Ryan Murphy wanted him to do it. And he was like, absolutely not. Because this is, like, his actual family. Although that would have been a great casting. There was something with Arnold. Not Arnold. Excuse me, Patrick.
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B
Yeah. He doesn't look like him a lot, and he doesn't seem like a man in his 30s and 40s.
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A
And he's, like, a little short. Short. Oh, you know what I mean? Like, JFK was this, like, large presence.
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B
Okay.
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A
And I think Patrick Schwarzenegger's extremely hot. Like, slay the house ambuds. But, like, he's short.
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B
I didn't know that he was short. I didn't know that was happening.
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A
He gives short. I don't even.
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B
He doesn't give short at all, really.
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A
Patrick Schwarzenegger.
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B
But, yeah, I feel like everyone else looks like exactly their character. Oh, Never mind.
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A
He's 6:1.
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B
He gives short, and he's just like a Nepo casting.
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A
Yeah, they would have loved.
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B
But I guess that's, like, a little weird if. If it's not like, like.
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A
And JFK Jr. Was 6:1. It's kind of the perfect height. I don't know why he doesn't give.
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B
How old is tall? Energy in his 30s.
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A
I want to know. I feel like he's younger, but he's engaged. He's married.
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B
He's married.
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A
His age is 32.
- [29:27]
B
Oh, okay. Sus. He's kind of perfect. Let me see him.
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A
Let me find, like, a new picture of Him. Hold on.
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B
And they could have, you know, had prosthetics.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Okay. He could have done it. And he. And he should have. He. He could have. For sure. Like, he could have prosthetics, a little die.
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A
He definitely was not allowed. Like, even if he wasn't even allowed to take the meeting, Maria was like, are you serious?
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B
Damn. Damn. Are you ready for our next story?
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A
Yeah.
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B
Trader star Eric Nam gets his revenge against winner Rob Roch in his new music video. Did you see this?
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A
I saw that he hired Rob.
- [30:06]
B
Rob, Ron Ron, Jam Jam, Natalie and Maura are all in Eric's new music video for his new single, how the Fire Started.
- [30:16]
A
I obviously did not watch the video, but I saw that, like, a trailer, and I thought it was really, really nice of everyone to participate. Yeah. Cause, you know, it's like, an unpaid gig. What was the video about?
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B
I think he gets his revenge on Rob. He travels to Rob's ranch to right some wrongs after his. I guess he was really wronged by Rob. When thinking about it, like, we only think of Maura.
- [30:42]
A
He wasn't robbed any more than, like, Lisa or Candace.
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B
Yeah, but we talk about Lisa and Candace because in the last episode, Maura was so betrayed. We forget about the other betrayal that happened quick because Rob had no reason to, like, boot Eric out other than the money, because they could have won together as traitors if he stopped the game.
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A
I forgot that Eric was a singer. He didn't sing once, like Mark Ballas
- [31:05]
B
did a twirl musical ears.
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A
And he got it wrong.
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B
Remember? And he said, I'm a musician. I can hear a pit.
- [31:12]
A
It was you, Tiffany. That was so crazy. The beginning of Traders was so good.
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B
It really was.
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A
I forgot that he was a singer. I didn't hear the song or the music video, but, like, cutesy.
- [31:22]
B
I wonder what the genre is. Do you want to listen?
- [31:25]
A
Sure.
- [31:25]
B
A little bit. Let me play it on Spotify.
- [31:28]
A
And I wonder how this has impacted his musical career, because I hadn't heard of him.
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B
I mean, we are talking. We are about to play his song on our show. Yeah.
- [31:34]
A
I don't want to get demonetized. No.
- [31:35]
B
Two seconds. I just want to hear, like, the.
- [31:38]
A
I feel like it's probably, like, you know. Oh, skip forward a little bit.
- [31:47]
B
Okay. It sounds like opener's good.
- [31:48]
A
Season is changing.
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B
Okay, I'm skipping forward. I just want to say I like the intro. I love it.
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A
It's good.
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B
I'm listening on the way home. It's good.
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A
It's good. Okay.
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B
Eric and my Car is connected to my Spotify, so it's going to be playing in my car.
- [32:07]
A
Yeah, that happens to me with the happy song.
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B
Oh, my God, me too. Song. Every day, I'm like, I wasn't listening to this. In the car, ring, ring.
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A
On the bicycle, beep, beep. In the car, ping, ping. A submarine, helicopter. A choo choo train, an aeroplane, a rocket to the sky. If you have a baby and you don't know the happy song, like, go save yourself, okay?
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B
Treat yourself to a few minutes of peace.
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A
But it always plays in the car.
- [32:38]
B
Our next story. You're gonna love this. Turdy's gonna love this.
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A
What?
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B
Vanderpump Rules producer Alex Baskins, 32 Flavors. His production company is boarding season two of Love Thy Nader. So Love Thy is about to get the Vanderpump Rules treatment. Alex Baskin, who is a producer on Vanderpump Rules, his kind of a legendary Bravo creator producer. His company, 32 Flavors, which continues to produce Vanderpump Rules and Beverly Hills and the Valley, will now produce the second season alongside Disney and Jimmy Kimmel and Smoking Baby Productions. So he's getting involved.
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A
Fun fact about me is that I hosted a panel at BravoCon and he was on it. It. And honestly, I don't think I realized till, like, way after, like, how big of a deal he was. It was all about trips that they've taken and he had produced. He produces all the shows you mentioned, but then also, like, random seasons of New York. Like, Bravo picks him up when they need him, and he's kind of legendary. So I feel like this bodes really well for Love Thy Neighbor. And while I think this is amazing, give us the fucking second season. Like, enough already.
- [33:39]
B
Yeah. And now it's like, what is the second season gonna be? Is it even gonna be that footage that they teased at the end of
- [33:45]
A
the first season, which is Bezos's wedding, which was so long ago. Do you know what just happened to Brooklyn?
- [33:50]
B
Just, like, put out the second season and brought him out for season three because you're gonna have to, like, rework everything. It's now old. And part of the amazing thing about Lovely neighbor happening, like, three months before it came out.
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A
And it kind of sounds like they just hired him, like, you know what I mean?
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B
Yeah, no, it doesn't sound good. Give us the second season of Basil's Wedding. Even if it's bad, we'll watch the third season with Alex Baskin. Yeah, just call it, like, bonus content or something. Put on YouTube, like, whatever are struggling.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Some of us miss Thy Neighbors, and
- [34:19]
A
I do feel like it's actually at this point gonna negatively impact ratings. Like, it's so long.
- [34:24]
B
It's kind of like Jeopardy. No.
- [34:28]
A
Making us wait to the point where we don't care.
- [34:30]
B
Not us particular, but. Yeah. It's not like boating. Well, we've had, like, three seasons of Mormon Wives in the time that we've waited for Love Thy Neighbor.
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A
Right. And almost, like, knowing how fast Hulu can turn things around, it's making me sus. Like, something's up.
- [34:44]
B
Yeah. And, like, what's going on with Mary and Julian?
- [34:47]
A
Yeah, they left us on, like, a cliffhanger, but it's like, that was now two years ago.
- [34:51]
B
They moved to the uk like.
- [34:53]
A
Yeah. And I feel like if and when they pick.
- [34:56]
B
It was actually in the spring.
- [34:57]
A
I almost hope they don't answer those questions, because that means we're watching old.
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B
Yeah, but that was in the spring. Like, it was. They had Easter, so it's like, June. And. Sorry.
- [35:04]
A
The Mormon wives have, like, literally turned everyone on their asses and doing.
- [35:09]
B
Let me start on Love Island.
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A
Right.
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B
Are you ready for our next story? Some more numbers. Number four.
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A
I feel like no. No.
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B
I feel like no.
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A
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catching strays in the ad break.
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Our next story, Lamar Odom is getting the Untold treatment. Yeah, Netflix's Untold series is dropping four new sports episodes and Lamar Odom is one of them. So he opens up about his 2015 overdose in a new episode and trailer for Netflix's Untold. His ex wife, Khloe Kardashian appears in the documentary, revealing to viewers that she felt a responsibility to cover up for his drug use and protect him during their marriage. It is called the Death and Life of Lamar Odom. It premieres on Netflix March 31.
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This is so crazy. I feel like even though the Kardashians like they've had Lamar back on, they talk openly about Lamar. I don't feel like Khloe's ever really sat down and told the whole story, not even just about his overdose, but like what preceded that? Their marriage.
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Their marriage. She hasn't. She really has.
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She alludes a lot to like a very dark time when Rob was living in the house. And I think that like the mars addiction might have affected Rob and like he got robbed. Like we never really found out, but a lot of why Rob is MIA and off camera and out of the public eyes because of that time, like was really damaging for him. And I think Chloe feels like a huge responsibility. So we know like based on very limited, like contextualize things, but we've never sat down and gotten the fall. I think they've talked a lot about the actual overdose and how Chloe was here.
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Everything after the bed they came and said goodbye, but nothing really during the marriage other than that it was a dark time. And now we know that there was drug use because there was drug use after. But she talks about how like he would escape from rehab and go on a drug bender and no one could find him. And like that was their marriage, which we don't know that. And I'm sure, like she was never going to tell the whole world that. But now he's doing a documentary about himself. I'm sure he. And now he's an open book. So I guess as much as she wants to Share. Because she's also entitled to her privacy from that time.
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I'm surprised she even sat down.
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I am, and I'm not. I don't know how you could do a documentary on Lamar without her.
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Yeah. And I think that she really wants
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what's best for him, but you'd be missing a big piece.
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I think, like, she wants him to survive and thrive on his own, so, like, however she can help, she will. But this does seem like, like, a big burden for her to take on, because I think she's, like, so traumatized by that period in her life.
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It might be healing for her to share it.
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Well, she also recently started therapy. Like, she talked about that on Kardashians. Like, maybe this is a part of
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her journey, you know, and there's worse places to tell your story than Netflix,
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and I feel like they'll do it with respect and dignity. And Untold is, like, a really critically acclaimed series.
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I'm critic.
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No, people love it. It's done really well. So I don't think it's, like, a tacky, eat your Hollywood story type of vibe.
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It's not. It's a good place to go when you want, like, I mean, if you or have the opportunity, because they don't focus on that many people. And I think what's going to be interesting about this, at least for me, is, like, the focus that they'll have on his sport aptitude. Because I just think of Lamar as, like, Chloe Lamar. He's a legend, but before that, like, a legendary Laker.
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There's, like, Kobe's number one guy.
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His talent is amazing. I think they talk about six, man. I think they talk about in the documentary that the Lakers were, like, making special rules for him because, like, he was, you know, on drugs and playing basketball. And I imagine they take drug tests, but, like, let him.
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A
That doesn't, like, look good for the Lakers.
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B
That's what it's. That's what the trailer seemed to be like. I don't know if they're saying they let him play on drugs, but they had. I think they let him get away with a lot.
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My God. Speaking of the NBA, I saw something on TikTok this morning, like, drama that's happening in Houston.
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Houston.
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So Houston, they're having, like, a themed. We have a game coming up, and
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they're having a theme.
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It's called the Magic City Night or whatever, and it's like, honoring a local institution. Magic City. It's like a famous place in Houston, and it's a strip club. Oh, and so one of the players wrote a sub stack being like, I. I'm just like, writing this essay to, like, urge the NBA and Houston to cancel this event. Like, like, spotlighting an industry where, like, he really was, like, very woke. Like, where so many women get abused. And it's supposed to be like family friendly entertainment. And it's kind of. I saw it on Tick Tock. Like, people are having, like, lots of debates about whether the NBA should be, like, having a night, sort of celebrate the strip club. Yeah. Which like, I think just baseline, like basketball is marketed as like a family friendly event. And like, a lot of kids go. And so, like, for that reason it shouldn't. But he went like, really deep on the lore of, like, abuse, the history of abuse in the sexual industry.
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Yeah.
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A
It was so crazy.
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B
That is crazy.
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I think they're also playing the Orlando Magic that night. So it was like the magic theme. Yeah. I don't know. It was weird. I thought it was so crazy.
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What if you had a magician come?
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I know this guy.
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B
The dinner party magician.
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No. He puts kids on his face and he's an amazing magician.
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Steve Max.
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Steve Max.
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Yeah.
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I actually think he broke his jaw.
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Yeah, he was doing a lot.
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He was crazy. If you were on like, the New England.
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He saw the magic show a couple weeks ago and it was just like, you know, a good magic show, a local guy, really good magic out there.
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If you were in the New England summer camp circuit in like the early 2000s, then, you know, Steve Max, he would come to everyone's summer camp, put
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it on your face and his thing. Put it on your face.
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Take a lawn chair and put a kid on the lawn chair. Like, I always picked the tiniest kid, which is still impressive. Sorry I wasn't like, knocking him. And he picked up the chair and he would balance the chair and the child on his jaw. I do. I heard he retired because he like shattered his jaw from years of hard work and making kids laugh. But that was a great time also
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to say, like, there are other things that you could do if you want to celebrate magic. Oh, you know what's cute? The Orlando Magic. That's like Disney.
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A
Yeah. No, I never put that together, you guys. We are planning a trip to Disney.
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B
It looks, it seems as though Disney's in our future.
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And the one spearheading the campaign is
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B
always how it happens for us. It's like we have a Disney agent, then we just, like, go to Disney. And I guess that's one of the beauties of being in Florida. Yeah.
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A
And like, being here, Ben is like, we are gonna go home soon. I meant to tell everyone that, like, it's our time is coming. So Ben is like, we can't have been here for so long and never have been to Disney. And Ben's just sort of wanted to become a parent so he could go to Disney. He made me go as like two, two, like childless adults a few years ago. And it was one of the worst experience of my life. And so I, I agree that we should go.
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We're here and I need you to go because I need to know what you think about it. Like, I need to experience it with you.
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A
Yeah.
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I can't tell if you are going to love it or hate it.
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A
I could see, like really liking a lot of elements of it, but, like not loving a lot of the physical elements. I could see being so tired after.
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B
That's not so bad. And you, you have, you're strong.
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A
I know, but like, I'm, I'm physically strong, mentally weak. Like, I could just see it being like, I don't want to go, but I'm going. And I told Ben, like, if you want it, like, you have to book it. Like, I'm not putting all the work,
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B
like, finding our Disney committee is Ben, Olivia and my husband, you know, he love, he. They should start a group chat. He said, Disney. When?
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So it's just about like finding the right time.
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But like, we're going, we are going Disney, Disney, Disney.
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Imagine I come back like a full blown Disney. Well, and then I become one of those people who like, moves to Florida, like, so they could be near. But I would move to, like, Orlando.
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You know, you get much better ticket prices as a Florida resident, so you'll
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A
just have to be buying the tickets.
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Yeah, yeah. No, but if you move here, like, you go cheaper. If you love it, it's a reason to move to the state.
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I don't know. Well, some people do. I see people on Tick Tock who are like Orlando influencers. And they literally moved from like Scottsdale
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to be near Disney.
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And they like, when they need to go for a walk, they go to Disney Park.
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B
Once you go there, you're not going to want to do that, but you might have an understanding of, like, what it's the worst. The world's best playground. Like, imagine you could live.
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Yeah.
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B
For your kids.
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But like, they go without their kids. Like, they drop their kids off at school and she's like, I need to go for a walk, so I'll go to Epcot.
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It's Walkable.
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That's insane. Like, that's.
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No, I'm not saying I would ever do that, but, like, it's the world's most amazing playground. Like, if you could live near it, it's kind of a sleigh.
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We're going.
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We are going. We're vlogging, of course, Whenever we need
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to bring a camera crew. Where's Alex Baskin when you need him?
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B
Yeah, we need a crew.
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Yeah.
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Are you ready for our fifth and final story? It's more content news. I don't really know what it means. Squid Game, The VIP Challenge, season one is set at Netflix with a celebrity cast. So it's.
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Oh, okay. Because I'm shocked when you chose this celebrity.
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B
Squid Games.
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A
Oh, okay.
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Here are some of the cast members.
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A
Like, Squid Games has been beaten to a pulp. Like, Mr. Beast. Like, he has his own show, but it's like Beast Games.
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Like, so one thing about me, I never watched Squid Games. I don't know what it's about, except
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that, remember earlier in the week, I
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B
don't know if it's a reality show or a scripted show.
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Remember earlier in the week when we said there are miniseries that, like, get a second season and they should have been given the miniseries treatment? Squid Games, that first season of Squid
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Games, know what else? Too hot to handle on Netflix? Once it was like, okay, but I'm
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A
not talking about reality shows, because Squid Games.
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B
Squid Games, reality.
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No, it's a scripted show, and the first season is one of the best seasons of television.
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It's insane.
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Like, it was amazing.
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B
I know.
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They did a second season. I never watched it. I mean, when it's the biggest show and it was the biggest show in the world, like, how do you not. But it really. It shouldn't have. And now, yes, you're right. They did a reality show and Mr.
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Beast.
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And so I guess they're doing a reality show. Mr.
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B
Beast is a reality version of squid games. Mr.
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Beast has a show on prime called
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B
Beast Games that I know, and I
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A
think it's like an interpolation.
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B
Okay, this. Well, now they're doing Squid Games. Like, celeb version.
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A
Okay, who's on it?
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B
Spice Girls.
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A
Wait, sorry. Let me tell you what. Can I tell you what the Squid Games are? Okay, so in Korea, they, like, if you must. It's like this underground ring where, like, these people come and they, like, find people who are down on their luck, like, financially. The guy that they chose had, like, a gambling addict and was, like, in really bad debt, and they give them an Opportunity to win a million dollars if they come to this game. Squid Game.
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B
But it's not real.
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A
No, no. It's a scripted trick, Joe.
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B
Okay.
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And so we follow all these people. They, like, come to this facility, and it's exciting until they realize it's like Hunger Games. Like, they fight to the death. There are all these challenges until one person.
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You either die or win a million dollars or.
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A
But the pot keeps growing with however many people die. And if you kill someone, it adds money to the pot. It's like, kind of like traders, like, until there's one person standing.
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Okay, should I watch it?
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A
It's very good, honestly.
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B
Oh, okay.
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A
Well, so it's dubbed, you know, like an heiress. It's, like, in a different language, but
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B
then they have the I don't mind dubs.
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A
It wasn't annoying.
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B
So here's who's on this celebrity version of Squid Game. It's a reality show, and no one's
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actually dying on Netflix.
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B
On Netflix. Okay. Spice Girl star Mel B. Oh, Dylan Efron. Of course. He never misses an opportunity.
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A
He really should go out a winner. Like, he's gonna become, like. You know what I mean? Like, he did Dancing with the Stars and he did Traders, like, the two biggest shows. Shows of this Elk. And he came out beloved both times. Like, he should just take the W and go.
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B
No, but, like, at this point, being on ensemble shows is his career.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Like, how did he even get on the first one?
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A
Nepo.
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B
But that was the best thing that ever happened to him.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Tristan Thompson.
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A
Why wasn't he on that Kevin Jonas show?
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I don't think there was enough episodes.
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I think it's still on.
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B
That would mean Zach had to do it.
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A
What's the Kevin. No, no, no, no, no. Know the Kevin and Frankie Jonas show, where, like, all these celebrity offspring, siblings, what's it called, claim to fame, live in a house together, and they have to guess, like, who they're related to. I feel like Dylan would have been a good one. People like that show. No, it's, like, popular.
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B
Tristan Thompson. Kim Zolciak, Queen Hannah Goodwin from the Bachelor. Exciting.
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A
Yeah.
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B
She hasn't been back on TV since the Bachelor. Yeah.
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A
I'm shocked.
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B
I'm surprised that this is what she wants to do. Ryan Sirhant. Okay. And Viper, who is a squid. And Viper, a squid game. The Challenge alum voted in.
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A
So, yeah, there was, like, another probably normie version. British.
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B
So, yeah, that's.
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A
This is crazy.
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B
And then Christy Sarah, who's a content creator. Do you know Her.
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A
I. I don't.
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B
But endorse the content creator.
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A
This type of show is, like, really huge right now. I don't know if you saw House of Villains on Peacock.
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B
I've heard of it.
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A
Oh, my God. I saw the funniest clip. Like, whoever works at Peacock fucking hates Tom Sandoval. Tom Sandoval's on it. And I guess the premise of the show is, like, you were a villain on your own show. Now we're gonna put you all in a house for, like, a show of just villains. So his car pulls up to the house, and he gets out, but they had his mic on the whole time. So you hear him in the car practicing what he's gonna say when he gets out, which is House of Villains Collins. I guess it's come to this. So you hear him in the car being like, I guess it's come to this. I guess it's come to this.
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B
Wait, why would he be practicing in the car?
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A
He's a loser.
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B
Like, that's insane.
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A
I know. And then, like, you hear it three times, then you see him do it, like, flawlessly.
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B
That's kind of mean. Crazy.
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A
It was kind of mean.
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B
It's mean that they showed it, but, like, that's crazy that he was reflecting that.
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A
I appreciate that he takes his job seriously.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And then I think he was the first person eliminated because I saw him on watch Happens Live. Like, talking about his time on the show. I'm like, it just premiered, but maybe
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B
that doesn't mean he's eliminated.
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A
No, it doesn't.
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B
Maybe he's just promoting.
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A
Yeah. I don't know. I saw the clip that you were talking about of the twink and a redhead coming for Amanda Francis, and then he was like, I don't even watch the show. I'm. I don't know why I said that. It was so funny.
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B
It was really funny. So Squid game, VIP challenge. Like, if that sounds good, that's good.
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A
I'm surprised that a lot of the
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casting on there there, it's actually pretty high caliber. So if that sounds good, that's good.
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A
I don't know what else you want me to say. And with that, I guess we'll leave you those poignant words, like, like we said, today's themes are very much like, well, read maturation. So, yeah, makes sense that we would sort of end the episode with beautiful
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B
tagline, a poetic note.
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A
What do you think Hallie Glassman's tagline is gonna be?
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B
Oh, wait, I have to do my summer house recap.
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A
Oh, sorry. Okay.
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B
Haley Glassman's tagline, though. Great question.
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A
Hashtag Glassman plasticsir. Need a necklace. Hashtag glassmansplastic surgery.
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B
Oh, wait, I have it. I have it. I don't uplift. I neck lift.
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A
I love that. She's like really good, mean.
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B
But she does plastic surgery.
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A
Yeah, she's like a bully who all. But she. Oh, sorry, she doesn't do plastic surgery. Her dad does.
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B
So she does pr and that's how
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she met Jon Gosselin. He came in to get, I think like his ex wife a tummy tuck and ended up leaving with the doctor's door.
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B
But she does PR for Glassman's that.
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A
I don't know.
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B
In the articles they said she's like PR maven.
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A
Yeah, she gives like Lizzie Grubman energy.
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B
That's a really big compliment.
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A
Really? Lizzie Grubman drove her Suburban into a club in the Hamptons and almost killed like 100 people and like literally left people paralyzed.
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B
But she's like the best publicist to ever do it, right?
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A
No, she's not. Her dad is the best lawyer to ever do it. That's why she's like a Nepo baby. Like, she was like a ditzy socialite who literally got drunk one night in the Hamptons and drove her car into a club full of people.
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B
I thought she was also like an acclaimed publicist.
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A
No, I think she became like a late in life publicist because, like, what do you do, you know, after. After you've sort of like almost killed like a hundred people.
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B
Pr. Correct. Well, do you have a tagline for Ms. Glassman? It's hard because we don't know a lot about her.
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A
Right. Because again, she's just like my hater. Later. I don't. I'm sorry, I don't have it. Yours was really good.
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B
Thank you so much.
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A
Let's talk about Summer House. Tell me what happened.
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B
Let's talk about Summer House. So Dara's here. Dara's chilling. So everyone's like the single guys are excited about Dara. Mostly like KJ and Australian bachelor Ben. But she's into kj, which is interesting because he's like, younger and everyone, like, adores Ben, but she said she just didn't feel a spark with him. Which I'm glad because, like, Bailey. I'm really, like, feeling fond of Bailey. She's like, showing us more.
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A
She, the brunette of the blonde.
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B
The blonde. Levi. The brunette is like, barely on the show. She's there this weekend.
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A
She's like Bailey from last year.
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B
Yeah, she's like I think there to support and I think we get some confessionals from her. But like Bailey is the full time cast member.
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A
I read on Twitter people are like loving Bailey.
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B
I wanted to know what the temperatures was about her because I imagine people say she's the future of the show because she's like very honest and vulnerable and she's like, you know, her thing is like she's kind of like, you know, a weirdo and she doesn't have confidence but like it's translating. And I guess she was like in a relationship before that like really rocked her confidence. So she like doesn't even know to how to like flirt anymore. And she was like, I'm gonna try and flirt with Wes and she's like talking to him and it was just really funny. Like she did a terrible job but it was genuinely enjoyable to watch. And she wasn't even like she never feelings her. She doesn't like him. She's just like trying to far. But she does like think Ben is really cute and doesn't know how to go about it. So I'm glad that like Ben and
- [54:32]
A
Darren, I'm glad people in the house are like mingling.
- [54:35]
B
And then speaking of the show is supposed to be so like the core drama is that Jesse like asked west if he could like make out with Sierra and that got back to crn. She was so offended. And she was right because she was like her and Jesse are like best friends. If he wants something a little bit more with her.
- [54:52]
A
First of all, you should talk about it first.
- [54:53]
B
Like if the only person she he should be asking for permission to kiss is her. And second of all, like, if you like her like that, like you should be asking for permission to take her on a date, not kiss her. Like what?
- [55:03]
A
So true.
- [55:03]
B
And what it's because it's like a joke. Like, oh no, if we made out, it wouldn't be a big deal. Be like a joke. But so I'm like a joke to you. She was like, everyone in this house like knows I want a boyfriend and that I'm more traditional. Like, why would you hear all that and then think, oh, like let's make out for fun.
- [55:16]
A
And in the context of Lexi. It's insane.
- [55:19]
B
Yeah. Yeah, but it's like it was so apt because she was like, I hate how Jesse moves, like without intention. And then he, when she like confronts him about it, he's like, I guess I didn't think about like what my intentions were. And like that's literally the problem. That's why I said, like, two seasons ago on Southern Charm, Austin said, like, he's been doing therapy and now he's dating with intention. Like, yeah, you don't just, like, make out with someone who's, like, looking or if it's your friend and. And then what's next? You have to have a plan for things. You can't just, like, go about your life like that. And what really bothers me about Jesse is he's always saying he's looking for a relationship and that. Like, and it's like, if you're looking for a relationship, why would you just make out with your best friend? And if you do want to make out with your best friend and you guys have an amazing friendship and you're attracted to her, obviously, like, why not something more serious? Like, why. Why does your head not go there? So he's really frustrating and I feel like, a lot of the frustrations that we had with him last season and this is what, like, Lexi was frustrated with him. And about, like, if you want to be my boyfriend, you have to be more serious. As an individual is now coming up this season, which it's like, better late than never. But, like, you can't just be such an unserious individual. Like, these are people's feelings.
- [56:21]
A
And it's, like, not cute.
- [56:22]
B
No, it's not cute at all. Cute. No. And when Ciara and him were talking, like, he was. He was in trouble, like, and. And I was, like, glad. But it was, like, awkward because how. Why are you being so foolish?
- [56:33]
A
Yeah.
- [56:34]
B
So I was glad that she let him know and isn't going to put up with that. And it was sad because she was like, why do people just look at me and, like, not take me seriously in a relationship? They see me as, like, this sexual object. And I'm like, it's not people.
- [56:45]
A
It's. It's this house.
- [56:46]
B
Bravo, guys. Right?
- [56:47]
A
No.
- [56:47]
B
No. And it's like, it's Virgin Weston, Jesse.
- [56:49]
A
That must be frustrating now for, like, multiple times in a row for it to have happened. But, like, what's the common denominator here? It's like douches from reality tv. Like, there are men outside who would, like, would respect you.
- [57:00]
B
Yeah.
- [57:00]
A
So, like, you're sort of fishing in the wrong pond.
- [57:02]
B
You're fishing in the wrong pond. There are people who are looking for real things. And the common denominator is they are all the same guy.
- [57:08]
A
Yes. Like, literally, like, different hairstyles. Same guy.
- [57:11]
B
Yeah. Just like reality TV man. Children.
- [57:13]
A
Yeah.
- [57:14]
B
Who are in no position to get serious.
- [57:16]
A
What about Kyle and Amanda?
- [57:17]
B
Kyle and Amanda were stable this episode. It was not about Kyle and Amanda. And that was good. I wanted to say one more thing.
- [57:25]
A
What?
- [57:25]
B
Something that's like, sneaking up. So soft bar.
- [57:29]
A
You think it's great?
- [57:30]
B
No. So in the episode, he's, like, getting that he's doing the Renault on, and he said, we're gonna open in five weeks. So I was like, oh, that means they're open now.
- [57:38]
A
They are.
- [57:39]
B
So I went to their Instagram.
- [57:40]
A
Yeah.
- [57:40]
B
And I feel like they have something going.
- [57:43]
A
Okay.
- [57:43]
B
Like, they do a lot of collabs with, like, wellness brands. They use the space for, like, I see people on Tick Tock Go, and they have a coffee bar and they do the running club and everything. Like, they have, like, soft run. You know, they have a lot of going.
- [57:57]
A
Okay.
- [57:58]
B
And I feel like they're. They might get it going. No, it's.
- [58:01]
A
By the way, it's been going now for a while.
- [58:03]
B
Not just that it's up and running, but, like, I feel like he might have something.
- [58:06]
A
Like he's onto something with the idea.
- [58:07]
B
He might be. And I'm ready to eat my words. Wow. But, like, the. Or at least the way it looks on social, like, it looks pretty legit and that there is a. There is a space for this.
- [58:16]
A
Right, Right.
- [58:17]
B
Wellness, you know, it's a physical location where wellness brands can activate. I can't believe those are real words, but they are. They do collaborations, and it's a physical space where relevant friends can activate. And I feel like we didn't see it that way before. Oh.
- [58:31]
A
It's also not like how it was sold. Just saying.
- [58:34]
B
Yeah.
- [58:34]
A
Yeah.
- [58:35]
B
So I think he's got something off the ground. And I also think in the season, it looks like in the trailer, Bailey and Carl kiss, and I actually think they might be well suited because she is, like, very awkward and she's not shy, but she's lacking confidence right now, and she's kind of quirky, and I feel like Carl's the exact same. Lacking confidence right now. Like, kind of quirky, not shy, but lacking confidence right now.
- [58:55]
A
I want to talk about Amanda because I'm not, like, actively watching the show. I keep up, like, through clips and through you, and I watch and I
- [58:59]
B
will let you know, like, when we get to a point where you need to. Watching right now, you don't.
- [59:03]
A
But it seems like it's so interesting. There's, like, a trajectory on.
- [59:06]
B
Oh.
- [59:06]
A
And it's so funny, you know, the Cut wrote an article. Actually want to find It. It was a good article. Okay, hold on. It was called I Love My Husband who Hates Me.
- [59:26]
B
Oh, I didn't see that.
- [59:27]
A
Oh, you didn't? And it talks about this sort of relationship. And they did reference Kyle and Amanda. Subscriber, like, God, the Cut writes one good article. Like, off. I can't read it. It was I Love My Husband who Hates Me. So nothing inspires rage like a woman who defends. Defends her partner's bad behavior. And then an art writer from the Cut reports on the phenomenon. And they had referenced a couple of people, Kyle and Amanda being one of them. And it's interesting. And I. I loop, like, Ariana Maddox into that where it's like, ariana Maddox. It's different because, like, Ariana Maddox ended up being, like, a victim in her situation. And so, like, when she was the victim and then got, like, all these opportunities and brand deals, there is this sort of, like, Bravo template that I feel like Ariana started where, like, you're, like, a woman scorned, and then you get. Get, you know, magazine covers and opportunities, and you actually leave your show because you're so. And I feel like you get, like, a ton of brand deals. She was in that Duracell commercial, right?
- [60:19]
B
Remember Uber Eats?
- [60:21]
A
Yeah. And now I feel like every time Amanda's on my Instagram, she's, like, doing an interview, doing a brand deal. Like, it's like a million ads. She's like the face of Tropicana. I don't know if you saw that.
- [60:31]
B
I did.
- [60:32]
A
And it's like this sort of Arianimatics template. And I feel like it's not the same because I, like, yeah, we knew Tom Sandoval was the worst. Like, she really loved him, and then she ended up being wronged. So it's like, yes, she needs to
- [60:44]
B
be like him, not even being the worst. Like, actually at the end of. His terrible personality actually had nothing to do with it at the end.
- [60:49]
A
Right, right. But she was doing this interview yesterday, and she's been, like, collabing all the posts. So I saw, like, her interview with Glamour being like, I love Kyle, like, stop being mean to him. Like, telling the fans to, like, lay off. So it's like, okay, you know.
- [61:01]
B
Yeah, well, yeah, it's not an Ariana and Time situation. Like, their relationship petered out.
- [61:06]
A
Yeah. But this sort of, like, catapulting of the woman's career after the breakup, that's where it's like the Arianimatics pathway.
- [61:17]
B
Right. And also it's like, why can't we catapult women in relationships.
- [61:19]
A
No, it's so true. That's so funny.
- [61:21]
B
Like, why do you have to be, like, single and scorned or. Or not scorned to be more like, why Warren Brands climbing from Amanda before she's the same person.
- [61:29]
A
Yeah. I really want to bring up this article. It's like, pissing me off. It was a really good. I forget who, like, who else they.
- [61:36]
B
You're only interesting to people if you're single. I don't like that because that's. It feels like that's what they're saying about Amanda. And she's also saying, like, Kyle did nothing wrong. Like, don't be mean to him. So I don't know why she would have, like, more opportunities now. And what Tropicana cares if she's single or married?
- [61:51]
A
Yeah, hold on. I think I found the article. I'm so interesting. Like, I read articles. I actually read the headline, and somebody did a tick tock, like, wrapping it up, you know?
- [62:01]
B
Oh, oh, I'm sorry. Do you want to find the tick tock?
- [62:03]
A
Nothing inspires rage like a woman who defends her partner's bad behavior. I found it. Yeah. Oh, and it was talking about Kristen Bell and Dax Shepard because, like, he goes on their podcast and says, like, kind of weird things that he does in the context of their relationship. And she's always having to come on the podcast and be like, no, like, it's funny. Like, I like it. Kyle and Amanda were referenced, and then it's like how people make tiktoks. Okay, So I saw this TikTok and it was like, come with me to return some clothes that, like, you know, come with me to return some clothes because my husband, husband, like, didn't want me, like, spending all the money on them. And it's like, people make these tick tocks out the terrible things that their husbands do. And then in the comments, they're like, nobody's like, a great guy. Like, you guys don't understand. It's like, well, stop bringing that to us. And that's kind of like what Kyle and Amanda. It's like we watch this sort of train wreck of a relationship, but I think people got really emotionally invested in it. And then it's like, over. And she's like, guys, he's the best. Like, don't be mad at him. We're like, okay, you know what? I kind of prefer that than, like,
- [62:53]
B
the dragon one where it's like, yeah, he's terrible. It's like, but wait, you were with him for so long, and he's been this person. He's been consistent in the way that he is. I prefer. I'm glad that she's defending him.
- [63:04]
A
They reference Tom and Katie. Tom Schwartz dumping a drink on his literal wife and calling her a. I
- [63:12]
B
can't believe we all just watched. I know.
- [63:14]
A
So, like, hindsight. Yeah.
- [63:15]
B
Well, I was young, so, like, I feel like. But, like, you don't. But, like, the executives who, like, like, where were people.
- [63:20]
A
Yeah.
- [63:21]
B
That's insane.
- [63:22]
A
Yeah. So it's this weird thing of, like. Like, broadcasting, like, the terrible nature of your relationship, and, like, we all get emotionally invested and it's like. But. But he's the best. It's like, okay.
- [63:32]
B
Yeah, no, there's a lot of different iterations. I feel like every couple that you just mentioned is so different. So I can't, like, just say blanket statement. You should do this or you should do that. I do feel like with Kyle and Amanda, they are who they are. He didn't do any. Aside from, like, you know, the DJing and the staying out late, which is what he was doing before they got married. He didn't do anything new. So, like, I actually appreciate her protecting him. Yeah.
- [63:53]
A
It is annoying when somebody then, like, goes on a podcast and, like, says the worst things that their husband did. It's like, girl, that was your husband.
- [63:58]
B
No. And it's like he was doing that. You were there for that. Like, and now you want to flip. But, like, it was great at the time, and now it's bad. Now I just feel like it's convenient.
- [64:08]
A
Yeah.
- [64:09]
B
And if you ever loved this person, like, you protect them a little bit, have their back a little bit.
- [64:13]
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [64:14]
B
As opposed to, like, like we said New Year's Day, like, this is the closest person in the world to you. And now they're straight. A stranger. And beyond being a stranger. Like, you're. Now they're. What's the word?
- [64:21]
A
You're their op.
- [64:22]
B
They're op.
- [64:23]
A
Okay. Op.
- [64:24]
B
Okay, Bestie.
- [64:25]
A
Yeah, say less.
- [64:27]
B
Bestie. Say less about your op. Bestie.
- [64:30]
A
She's so young.
- [64:31]
B
So. Yeah, I. I would need to sit down with about each couple because I don't think you can put them all together now. Please send me the tick tock that really compelled you about because you did not.
- [64:40]
A
I know I was explained.
- [64:42]
B
You didn't make, like, the best case for it, but I'm open.
- [64:44]
A
Yeah. All right. That's our show, guys. Thank you so much. Listening to the toast, the Monday morning show. We deliver the past five stories you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube so watching us on YouTube please feel free to subscribe. Give us a video thumbs up. We're also available as podcast every podcast be found on Spotify Gym center public radiocast pops to the place and podcast review at every setting and wickedly talented we are. Hope you guys have an amazing day and we will see you when? Oh tomorrow because we do the show every day and we love doing it so we'll see you tomorrow.
- [65:06]
B
Other bitches could never we love you. Bye.
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