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Jackie
Good morning, millennials.
Claudia
Welcome back to the toast and happy Wednesday. A hump day. Which makes sense because Jackie and I are dressed like a bunch of camels today.
Jackie
We've got two humps on this hump day. Turdy and I are twinning lumps. Actually, you and I are the two humps because we're both twinning and camel.
Claudia
And it's a big day, you guys. It's merch launch day. So our fall merch shop that we have been teasing all week finally launches today, 10am so it's already out. And the website, of course, is hermes.com. it's shoptoastmerch.com our big collection. This is like our final collection, like, big collection for the end of the year. So usually we do December one, but we decided to do this one. Like more autumnal, collegiate vibes. So if you're wanting to get someone something for the holidays, we have hats, we have bags, we have sweatshirts, we have sweatpants, we have T shirts, we have cardigans. For the very first time, I feel.
Jackie
Like such a broken record. Because about everything I'm saying, like, this is my favorite thing we've ever launched. But then I'm saying that about everything. But I mean it truly. Like the cardigan, the tea, the camel logo, the girly swirly university where I got like a five star education. And then garagey par. I can finally wear that across my chest like it's a beautiful thing.
Claudia
And a couple of housekeeping things. Shall we get a lot of questions about sizing? Jackie and I both wear mediums for if I was just getting the crew neck, I would probably get a large, so I could do like oversized with leggings. But when I wear it as a set, I like it to be more fitted. So if you're getting the whole set, I would go your regular size. Everything really runs true to size. The T shirt, the girly T shirt in white is meant to be fitted. So if you're looking for like a looser fit, I would size up again. But everything really runs true to size. That's first. I just know. Refrigerator open. Like, am I okay?
Jackie
You left your refrigerator running. You better go catch it.
Claudia
Can we close the refrigerator?
Jackie
If you like an oversized tea, like what we've done in the past, there is a girly tea in the shade. Mushroom that is.
Claudia
It's toasty.
Jackie
Oh, sorry. Toasty. It's in the shade mushroom that is oversized. And the quality of it is a little bit thicker than what we launched in the spring because it is fall now, so it's a little bit thicker stock.
Claudia
Also wanted to note that because we, we really try not to do most of our drops, we do pre order, so everybody can order exactly what they want. Nothing sells out. That does mean that the lead time for shipping is a little bit longer. So it says four to five weeks right now. But you'll be able to get everything you want. You won't have to like, you know, be crying because you're getting like a size you didn't want or an item that you wanted sold out. So just keep in mind four to five weeks and you can get whatever you want. So that's right. Nothing's going to sell out. We're going to close the shop in a few days. But you have time.
Jackie
Yeah. So head to Shoptoast Merch Comm Merch is the best week because we finally get to wear all the stuff we've been working on. I don't have to think about what I'm wearing.
Claudia
That's it.
Jackie
And we look amazing.
Claudia
That's it. Like not having to think about outfits. And I guess that's what it's like being a kid when your parents would, like, lay your clothes out for you. It's. I actually, I don't even know if I realize, like, what a burden it is on me especially because, like, you know, we are on camera and everybody's like, you know, it does hurt when everybody's like, Jackie looks great today. And I'm just like, okay, now I'm a big piece of duty.
Jackie
No, it really hurts when they're like, slob.
Claudia
I know what you're saying.
Jackie
Well, I mean, yeah, but it's, it's, it's tough. And then the day, some days I'm like, I'm zapping my Posey up. I'm dressing up. And like, then I feel so stupid.
Claudia
But anytime I find that I look better.
Jackie
On days where I'm just cozy, anytime.
Claudia
I get dressed up, I feel incredibly stupid. Like on Friday's episode. Actually didn't even get to talk about this. Right. I had to run out of the toast because I got an opportunity. There was like a meeting being held with the President of Israel. I got to meet the president Israel. I actually have like a picture I need to post. So I got like, dressed up. I was wearing like a really nice style, like sweater dress boots with the fur, like heels. I felt so stupid. We're like sitting here talking about like, Brianna Chicken Fry and Zach Brian, and I'm like, literally going to a business meeting.
Jackie
No, there have been some times where I do something in the morning that requires me to, like, wear a dress or look nice. And it's like, well, why not go to work looking so nice? Because, like, why. Why take it down a notch? And I just look so stupid in my chair with my headphones. Like, in my dress.
Claudia
Yeah. And I.
Jackie
That I never want to do it.
Claudia
I often feel like the more put together and fancy I look, the worse my performance is on the toes. Like, my level. My level of comfort is parallel with my level of funny. Like, it's just all to say.
Jackie
That's probably why this week has been amazing. Toast wise. Amazing looks wise. Plus, we get to twin, which I love to twin with my twin.
Claudia
Yeah, me too.
Jackie
My twin flame, Turdi.
Claudia
Like, you're so positive today, and I wanna be on your level. I, like, snap my neck in my sleep, which is. It's been happening to me a lot in my older age. It always happens in my sleep. So it's like I go to bed happy and I wake up. What happened?
Jackie
Yeah.
Claudia
And the way I wanna seriously snap my own neck and just kill someone, it is so, like, I can't even talk. And I'm so animated when I talk. Yeah. Yeah. I can't do my thing.
Jackie
You can't yap, as the kids say.
Claudia
I can't yap, as the kids say.
Jackie
I'm really sorry. I've been there so many times. It's the worst thing. I do believe that our beds are too soft. And we human beings are, like, meant to sleep on the floor, you know?
Claudia
I know. And Ben was like, well, tonight you'll have to sleep with no pillows. Yada, yada. And I'm like, why? It's not gonna help it get better. There is a certain amount of time I have to suffer before. Like, it's just nothing I do is gonna move it along. Like, it's just probably two, three days that I have to suffer. And then I will be better. And I could spend those two, three days, icy hot, sleeping on the floor. Or I could just live my life, and it'll be the same amount of time before I feel better.
Jackie
We're not meant to sleep on the floor, you know, there's grass, Jackie.
Claudia
They say, like, when you really throw out your back, you're supposed to sleep on your dining room table. Like, flat, hard.
Jackie
Oh, my. But this is something that we've known for a while. It happens to me every few weeks because my bed is just too soft. And one day, I will deal with that.
Claudia
I have so Many other things. I need to deal with that. Like, it's just.
Jackie
I love my bed.
Claudia
It's not a priority. Oh, yeah. And I love my bed.
Jackie
Yeah.
Claudia
So last night I told you I'm very much, like, in my cable era, and I decided to do something a little crazy.
Jackie
I know what you did, because you actually FaceTimed with me last night, even though you haven't been FaceTiming with me.
Claudia
Yeah, we're. Jackie and I are kind of, like, working through a little family issue. Meanwhile, I had to talk to your husband. I had such a terrible dream about him. Like, I need to make sure he's okay. I feel like my dreams are actually, like, really connected with what's going on in the world. I feel like maybe Zach needs to talk to me about something.
Jackie
Like, the issue that Claudia and I are having is a scheduling issue because she's been watching a lot of TV with her husband, which is, like, beautiful for your relationship. You watch Harry Potter, you watch Gilmore Girls. Like, it brings you together. But when he's watching with you, like, he doesn't let us FaceTime. And, like, literally, he has a timer on. The other night, he said, I beg to get five questions.
Claudia
Yeah.
Jackie
And I didn't even. And he said yes. And then I didn't even get to ask five questions.
Claudia
So I've definitely felt like Jackie and I aren't communicating as well as we once did. And last night, Ben was out to dinner. Jackie and I were on FaceTime for, like, two.
Jackie
Party two hours, doing nothing. Like, he thinks we just, like, I'm. It's a need to have conversation. No, I just want to, like, be on the phone with my sister.
Claudia
And so we've come to the conclusion that my husband is driving a wedge between us. Trying to, like, you know, just watch Harry Potter. No. Trying to definitely separate us. Like, I don't.
Jackie
The thing is, I don't think the intent is bad. I don't think he's trying to separate us. I think he just wants to watch his show, but he doesn't understand, like, how important. Like, he. You know what he said? He said, screw sisterhood.
Claudia
Well, it's so important to note that if Ben and I were watching something and he took a phone call, like, from anyone.
Jackie
It's different. It's different.
Claudia
I would say it's not sisterhood. Are you fucking kidding?
Jackie
No.
Claudia
Let's say. Let's say it was his sister. Let's say Maddie called.
Jackie
It's not sisterhood.
Claudia
That's his sister.
Jackie
It's brothers and sisters.
Claudia
Okay, true. Different. I would say get the fuck out. Like, I would seriously be, like, siblinghood. Are you crazy?
Jackie
It's sibling revelry, if you will.
Claudia
It's sibling revelry, if you will.
Jackie
I know.
Claudia
I understand, like, the concept of interrupting. Like, it's annoying. But this is my life partner. Like, my business partner. Like, scram.
Jackie
Seriously, scram.
Claudia
He doesn't. So if you've guys been feeling, like, a sort of tension on the toast, like, Jackie and I aren't as close as we used to be. That's why.
Jackie
Or maybe it's actually the opposite, where we do all this nonsensical catching up on the toast because we don't get to do it at other points of the day.
Claudia
I actually agree. But wait, so you were on FaceTime with me when I decided to make this decision last night? Because I've been watching Jeopardy. Every night. It's kind of becoming, like, my new favorite thing. I feel so smart whenever I get an answer right. Like, it's just really. It's kind of one of the highlights of my day. And then I just leave the TV on and Wheel of Fortune. I watch passively. It's really so dumb. Like, I can't. Okay. And I just want to say I'm not into Ryan Seacrest and Vanna White. Like, it's the old and the new. We either needed to get both of them out or both of them in. Like, it's wrong. But then Dancing with the Stars was on at 8:00, and I was like, all right, you know what? Like, I'll watch it. I'm always talking about it, like, peripherally on the toast. Maybe I could know what I'm talking about. Now I'm not going to be able to know what I'm talking about because I found the show, like, so impossible to watch that I was on my phone the entire time.
Jackie
But I did with me.
Claudia
I did catch, like, glimpses of things here and there.
Jackie
Yeah, she was talking to me.
Claudia
Yeah. And I just have a major critique of the show that I have to share because we're at the place where, like, there's fewer people left and everybody's scores are getting better. I think there's a point in the show when, like, everybody's getting, like, eights, nines, and tens. And I'm going to single out Danny Amidola, but it was happening to everyone. Okay, so this is not, like, a statement on Damien, Danny Amidola's, like, dancing career. He got a 10.
Jackie
Just make an example out of him because he can Take it.
Claudia
Yes. And it's emblematic of the entire issue. And I'm new to Dancing with the Stars. I really never watched. So I'm sure you guys know this, but I didn't. But, like, I didn't know we were giving out tens to amateurs. Like, that. Was that a 10? A perfect 10 means there's no.
Jackie
I'm like, right.
Claudia
He was so stiff and like. Yeah. He didn't forget any moves. He did everything right. I was like, are you kidding? A Ted. Like, how low is the bar? I was so shocked. And I was like, this show is not serious. Is that a serious show?
Jackie
I understand that.
Claudia
And to be honest, and I have said this before, first of all, if anybody wants to know who I think should win, it's Dwight Howard. But that's neither here nor there. It's so easy for the men. And by the way, there's mostly men left. I think it's two women, Chandler and Ilona.
Jackie
Pommel horse Steve Chandler.
Claudia
I actually don't know her. She's like, this very beautiful girl. I've never seen her before in my life. Disney. She's a Disney. Okay. But then there's pommel horse Steve. Joey, the Bachelor. Rome has an ancient vibe to it.
Jackie
Greece.
Claudia
Old school vibe. Old school vibe.
Jackie
Grease.
Claudia
Dwight Howard, Danny Amendola. So it's mostly men. It's so much easier for the men to get a perfect 10. Like, all they have to do is properly lift the girls, who are three pounds and they're professional athletes. Dwight Howard can lift this girly no problem. Like, it's actually biased. It's. It's not playing field.
Jackie
You don't think it's harder for men to dance in general? Like, to.
Claudia
Well, it depends on the man. Sometimes a man comes on and you could tell they seriously have no rhythm. And honestly, like, right. If Dave Portnoy ever went on Dancing with the Stars, he would be out first because one thing. And they released, like, a bunch of bloopers from him recording his diss track. And it was exactly as I thought. The man has no rhythm. The person who wrote the song had to literally repeat every line to Dave and he had to copy it exactly. He could not stay on beat. It's. If you have rhythm like I do, you have to watch. It's infuriating, Jackie. Like, he can't see be go. Like he was.
Jackie
That is so funny.
Claudia
It was a very funny clip. But some people have rhythm and some people don't. And I think that, like, you could tell, like, the gymnastics guy, you have to have rhythm to do those routines.
Jackie
Yes.
Claudia
White Howard totally, like, can kill it at a Bat Mitzvah dance floor. Like, he has rhythm. So if you have the basic basics. Yes. But some people, I think that's gender regardless. Like, if you don't have rhythm, like, you really can't dance.
Jackie
I agree with that.
Claudia
So everyone's been wanting me to watch Chanting with the Stars. And you know what? You got what you asked for. I really didn't like it. Okay. Like, oh, my God. And I don't know how you guys put up with like. I forgot this thing about cable. It reminded me of the Bachelor, like, how they play with you. Two hours.
Jackie
That's so crazy.
Claudia
Two hours. So many commercials. And then they did like a pop up challenge where like everybody did their performances. And I was like, we've literally been here. There's a whole hour left. What are we gonna do? Surprise. Here's your category. Go plan a dance. I mean, to like, they all had five minutes to put together a dance and choreography and, like, come back. Like, it was so color war. It was so stupid.
Jackie
Yeah. I was gonna say it's like camp. And not in a good way. Like, I don't want to watch someone's camp on tv.
Claudia
So I fear I cabled a little too close to the sun.
Jackie
Honestly, I'm sorry for you. I finished, I continued, not finished reading my Frida Rita.
Claudia
Frida Rita.
Jackie
And the fact that it's taking me this many days tells you everything you need to know because a frida is a 24 hour read.
Claudia
So I think there's something happening with Frida. I experienced something the same where I was like, it was the only books I wanted to read. They were so quick and easy. They were adding to my account. And then you get one that's just like seriously bad and you're like, had I, I, I Frida too close to the sun? Yeah, mine was, I forget what it was called, but it was about this, like, coworker who goes missing.
Jackie
Interesting. So I'll finish the book and like, it's, it's, it's fine. But I'm looking forward to moving on. Maybe reading, maybe reading what you suggested.
Claudia
The Many lives of Mama Love. Oprah's Book Club. Now if you're gonna read it, here's something I only figured out after that I feel is important, like, to the story. It's called the Many Lives of Mama Love. And the author is Lara Love. So it's her story. I didn't realize it was like a memoir. It's Kind of. It's like Memoirs of a Mama. It read like a fiction book.
Jackie
Like, okay, I kind of like that.
Claudia
Yeah. And Oprah's actually in the book. It's cool.
Jackie
Okay, I'm open.
Claudia
Yeah, I think you're open. And now I'm on my, you know, prison reform shit. Like, it really. It's one of those book that opens your eyes to the system kind of how like Demon Copperhead. After I read that book, I'm like, Child and Family Services is disgusting. This entire system for kids, like, who are growing up in poverty and, like, it's disgraceful. It's literally pharma. Of course it's built to destroy the lives of these children. Like, honestly, they're not. They have not helped one person in their life. Like, that was my takeaway from Demon Copperhead. You will have that same takeaway from the prison system from this book.
Jackie
Oh, I could see that being.
Claudia
She's like one of the few who actually got out, like, by her own sheer will and determination.
Jackie
Like Demon.
Claudia
Like Demon. Yeah. So, yeah, that's just like kind of what we do here at the Toast. We. We talk about the government agencies.
Jackie
We go down a myriad of rabbit holes. The government agencies are very much in the news.
Claudia
They are. Wait, also, I was going to say run a show. We have Dear Toasters today, but that reminded me that yesterday, you know, Jackie and I feel really bad that last week or whenever it was the week before, we forgot Dear to. And we know that the community was outraged with us. We received death threats, backlash. Like, we heard your cries and we won't do it again, we promise. But to make up for it, we recorded an entire 45 minute podcast and video episode exclusively going through Dear Toaster submissions. It's on our Patreon and we just do it every.
Jackie
Every few months on Patreon. Anyway, it's just if everyone loves a little dt, we wanted to give back to the community and we did. And it's up on our Patreon right now.
Claudia
Yeah. And we'll do. We'll still do. Don't worry. This week, three submissions.
Jackie
Even though we actually have like, like, really good stories today. The big celeb news of the day.
Claudia
Finally sma.
Jackie
So I actually feel like. No, I'm the last one to say it. I actually feel like we should make haste and get into the fast five stories that you need to know.
Claudia
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Jackie
Thank you dot turt.
Claudia
You're welcome.
Jackie
Our first story, the big celeb news of the day. Finally, people's Sexiest man alive has been announced and it is John Krasinski.
Claudia
Now I heard two things about this that I feel like ruined my take on it. So I want to get your take and then I'll read the two things that Dumas posted that really shook me up.
Jackie
Okay, I think this is a great choice. I think that it covers like People magazine's demographic while also being like objectively a good call, pretty relevant. And I think everybody really likes this guy. Not. And that's coming from someone who like actually hasn't fallen into John Krasinski. Laura. I don't watch the Office. I watch Jack Ryan. I don't watch A Simple Place. Objectively he's a good looking man and.
Claudia
Simple place, a quiet place.
Jackie
And Cody Simpson's getting a cma.
Claudia
Correct.
Jackie
Objectively, he's nice looking. I know people really love him and even though I'm not even a part of it, I think this is such a great choice. So I can only imagine how people who love him feel about this.
Claudia
Okay, that's a good take.
Jackie
Now do what was your initial take?
Claudia
I didn't. I literally saw the announcement, this dummy thing on Twitter. Like, it was the first thing I saw when I woke up. And there was two blinds that she had read.
Jackie
I'm shocked at what you could say that could ruin people's sma.
Claudia
Well, the first was that, FYI, Glenn Powell was aggressively courted for Sexiest Men Alive and he turned People magazine down. He joins the ranks of Ryan Gosling, Jason Momoa and Keanu Reeves in terms of stars who have been begged to be Sexiest man Alive, but who have absolutely refused. Okay, then this is the blind that, like, really made me, like, question everything. Okay, this a list actor who is starting to fall from stardom was willing to pay millions of dollars to be, quote, chosen as 2024 Sexiest Man Alive. He knows that people are losing interest in him and he thinks that spending the money on the title is a good investment in gaining back momentum for his career.
Jackie
I do not believe that. Okay, like, because if that's true, that's just like the nuttiest thing I ever heard that really.
Claudia
I didn't know you could pay.
Jackie
I don't think. I don't believe it. I just want to say, like, and John Krasinski is not my fave, but I'm going to trust your guys's fate because he literally says in the article, like, he immediately blacked out when he was told he's going to be people.
Claudia
Keep in mind these are actors. Like, they are deluded.
Jackie
I know, but, like, I don't. I mean, I know people bold face, lie to your face, but until they, I can confirm that they've done it once. Like, I do give people the benefit of the doubt and I've not seen John Krasinski to be a liar. And I also don't agree with that blurb that, like, he's waning from public interest. I think he's doing just fine.
Claudia
And I think he's like, at a level where even if he's not doing public outings and things, like, he's always eternally famous, he's at that level now. Let me, like, really strip back and give you my thoughts. Like, I'm not offended by this choice whatsoever. Again, he's not my favorite. I actually don't particularly think he's, like, good looking, but I know there are people who, like, die for Jim and Pam and Jack Ryan and all that. So again, I'm happy for them. I. And I think I feel this way often about People magazine. Like, they, they always just make like, A. It's, like, so obvious, you know? Like, do something crazy.
Jackie
I think it should be a little bit obvious, though.
Claudia
Yeah.
Jackie
For what this is.
Claudia
I don't know. Well, they do, like. You know what? Never mind. I'm not gonna say that.
Jackie
Who would have been, like, a crazy.
Claudia
I don't know.
Jackie
I even think, like, Jeremy Allen White would have been a crazy choice because he is, like, still kind of niche. He's on one show.
Claudia
He's not niche. He's not niche. We are just used to People magazine choosing men over 40. He would be the youngest person to ever be chosen.
Jackie
I also think that's a good precedent. I don't know. Like, maybe we could also have a different publication. Do, like, Maxim, Sexiest, Hottest Guy. But, like, I like what People magazine does, and I like that they don't stray too far from it. Like, it's a. It's an older, more established man. Everybody really knows them.
Claudia
It's interesting to me that People magazine is not ordinarily a publication. Stars at this level. Whatever. Sit down for an interview. For now, a lot of them make an exception for the Sexiest Man Alive thing. It's Glenn Powell. Actually, Glenn Powell, yesterday or maybe this morning, was announced as a cover star of Vanity Fair with, like, the. Like, Jonathan Bailey, Nicole Kidman, like, the big movie stars of this season. And so it's clear he's, like, really in a different stratosphere, and he's on this path of, like, Hollywood movie star. We haven't had, like, a real male movie star in a while. Like, that's what he wants to be. Very like Tom Cruz back in the day. So I can actually see him turning this down. And I do feel like perhaps there was a time where John Krasinski would have said no to this, but not anymore.
Jackie
Yeah, I think he's at the right place in his career, as they. The sexiest man usually is because it's.
Claudia
More of a sunset season.
Jackie
That's. Yeah. A sunset season. And I understand why Glenn Powell would have said no if that part is true. It's a little too, like, commercial and corny. And I know he wants to be taken seriously. And there is, like, there is something lovingly corny about Gwen Glenn Powell. And I don't think he wants to do, like, more of that. Like, he's. He's all set.
Claudia
He wants to win an Oscar. Like, and I think that that's the route he's taken in. And that's not, like, a commercial thing. Like, you don't do big. People Magazine Spreads when you want to win an Oscar, like, you're very low key artist, you know, don't talk to me.
Jackie
Yeah. So I think. And of course, you know, if this is just about sexiness, period, he's not the Adonis, the, you know, but he's very typically the sexiest man.
Claudia
He's very good looking. It's an unoffensive choice. It's appeals to a lot of Americans. And it's a good choice.
Jackie
I think. It's a really good choice.
Claudia
It's a good choice.
Jackie
Not a really good choice.
Claudia
Well, the idea of, like, what Dumas said, like, him begging and paying for this, like, makes me cringe. So that's like the only thing ruining this for me.
Jackie
Okay, but do you think there's a possibility that that's not true?
Claudia
Of course, of course. But, like, I. I'm only seeing it through the lens.
Jackie
Dumont said something else this week that broke my heart.
Claudia
What?
Jackie
That Ariel Frankel was out on a date with Gobbledygoop.
Claudia
With what?
Jackie
Who? I don't know.
Claudia
Googler. Oh, but you don't know me from Criminal Minds. He's like, everyone.
Jackie
I don't know who that is. Gobbledygook.
Claudia
Oh, okay, so if you don't know who Gobbledygoop is, then, like, I could see how that would upset you because I know you want her to be with that other Jewish character from the Bachelor. Having said that, like, he. People are obsessed with him. He plays what the hell's his name in Criminal Minds. Like, people are. I love Criminal Minds and I love him. And, like, I totally get the. There is an obsession with this guy, and I don't even know if he's ever publicly dated anyone. And now his first sighting is with Ariel, Jewish queen from the Bachelor. Like, I'm actually not upset about it at all.
Jackie
Okay, I'll be less.
Claudia
It's a huge pull for her if. If true.
Jackie
Okay, even if it's not true, the fact that they're associated, like, it's just really great for her. I want greatness for her, so I will support her. I just am going to be mourning like, the off that never was.
Claudia
Yeah, no, I totally get you. I just want to see.
Jackie
But I'm glad to know that he's worthy of our swirly. What's his last name? Gobbler.
Claudia
Matthew Gray Gubler. G U B L E R. It's a blueberry gobbler. I do believe he actually might be Jewish.
Jackie
Oh, my gosh. Okay, this is great news, Matthew. Let me look. Let Me? Look at him with a keen eye now. He's really cute.
Claudia
He's super cute. Really successful. Huge. Like, people are obsessed with him.
Jackie
Oh, he's in your favorite movie, rv.
Claudia
Wait, what?
Jackie
Who is he?
Claudia
Wait, who is he in rv?
Jackie
I don't know. That's what came up on Google. He does look familiar, but I've not seen anything that he's been in.
Claudia
He's really from Criminal Minds. Like, and that's it. Okay. Oh, my God. Yeah, he's the one who helps them with the septic. I fucking love rv. Okay. It all comes back to rv. Yeah.
Jackie
He's really cute. I'm happy for her and Jackie.
Claudia
He's Jewish. Does that change things for you?
Jackie
I accept it does change things for me. It does.
Claudia
Yeah.
Jackie
I just want greatness for her. I'll support her in anything she does.
Claudia
Let me tell you, I know this is, like, a blind spot in your pop culture knowledge, and I can tell you, like, it's a really good thing for her.
Jackie
Okay, great.
Claudia
It would be like, I'm trying to make a comparison that you would know. I don't know. But just have faith in me. Like, this is amazing.
Jackie
Okay. Yay.
Claudia
Yeah. Like, there's, like, Jeremy. While it was nice, he's not, like, the only Jewish guy out there, you know?
Jackie
No, I know, but I just love the idea of, like, the Bachelor. Of course. Of course.
Claudia
Of course. And they had that video together. I thought that was, like, a hard launch.
Jackie
I thought so, too.
Claudia
No, she was spotted with the Goobs. What did you call him? Gobbledygook. Seriously? Top five funniest things you ever said.
Jackie
Matthew Gray Gubler. Okay, I'll book it.
Claudia
Yeah, no, he's one to watch.
Jackie
She's one to watch. And so I asked Moses. He's one to watch.
Claudia
No, that's a good one. So hopefully, either all of the things that Dumois said are true or none. Like, it's so hard to know. You really have to use your judgment.
Jackie
Yeah. I think some things are true and some things aren't. I'm going to give John Krasinski the benefit of the doubt here. Maybe he doesn't deserve it, but I'm going to give it to him.
Claudia
And I just want to say I can see a world in which they would have chosen him. Like, he wasn't begging or paying. Like, I can see it's not so out of the realm of possibility. Oh, no. And he doesn't seem like the kind to be, like, so obsessed with how relevant he is. Like, he's made a lot of money.
Jackie
Him out to be this huge loser. He has this huge show on Prime. He. It's being made into a movie.
Claudia
I heard also, like, you know, part of a, an A list Hollywood couple that everyone's obsessed with. Like, there's, there's relevance in that.
Jackie
I don't think it's true. Okay. But thank you for bringing it to the discussion table. It's very.
Claudia
My pleasure.
Jackie
Are you ready for our next story?
Claudia
Yeah.
Jackie
About one of our favorite couples. Olivia Munn is sharing a lot about the early days of her relationship with John Mulaney to gq.
Claudia
So for some people, the early days of her relationship with Javelini is like the most important thing in their lives. Like, because the timeline, you know, there's.
Jackie
And they're going to be like, seriously sat for this because she's admitting that she barely KN John Mulaney when she got pregnant. They weren't even dating yet. She says. She said it wasn't anything close to dating when she found out she was expecting their son Malcolm, quote, I barely knew him. She talked to GQ because he is on the COVID of Comedian of the Year for gq and she talks about how they got together again in 2021. She said at the time he was looking for an apartment in New York City after splitting from his ex wife. And Olivia referred him to a friend and they began talking again at some point, developing a more intimate relationship.
Claudia
I told you something. I'm sorry, because this is harking back to a conversation we had when we were talking about the Grammys. Like, and I think John Mulaney's amazing. You guys know, like, I love him and I think he's really successful. I don't think he was the comedian of the Year, like, these arbitrary titles. And that's what I was saying about, like, comedy, like, the new world of comedy has, like, a lot of catching up to do to, like, the OG it's like a very old school type of thing. And so if you're not like, you know, on the road, like the whole podcast and special, I feel like is not like Shane Gillis was the comedian of the year, you know.
Jackie
Yeah, well, it's Sheq. This is their Men of the Year issue. And then like in the comedian category, it's Shyamalani, but he also got the COVID I think we're gonna be. We have to just accept these things because we're getting into the list time.
Claudia
I know, but I hate when the lists aren't accurate.
Jackie
Like, it really, to me this isn't the worst choice they could have made. Like, no.
Claudia
But was it the biggest year for John Mulaney?
Jackie
No.
Claudia
I feel like he was literally in hiding. He had a second kid. Like, what did he even do?
Jackie
Didn't he put out a special this year?
Claudia
I don't think so.
Jackie
Not like abilities of prison.
Claudia
No, that was Baby J John Mulaney special.
Jackie
You saw him at the Lighthouse. That was really big for him.
Claudia
Yes. And he had said, like, he really hasn't done much this year. Oh, he did that. Netflix is a joke festival that they televised for Netflix. He had like a little late night show. My, like, where he had people come with you.
Jackie
Like there were.
Claudia
It was called Everybody's in la. Yeah. Okay. Not to be like a stickler for the lists, but it just goes without saying, like, if we're taking a look at this year at a glance, Comedian of the Year for Men wasn't. Yeah, sorry, continue.
Jackie
So she. She said that she was excited when she told him that she was pregnant. However, she added, it wasn't necessarily we're going to be married and live together or any of that, but it was I will be involved in some way. She initially assumed they would simply co parent their child while she lived in LA and he remained in New York. However, the two would talk every once in a while or he would come visit her throughout her pregnancy. At the time, he was fresh off of his rehab stay after relapsing during the pandemic. Before that, he had been sober for 15 years. She said the two seemingly grew closer throughout her pregnancy as the exciting arrival of the little one was the only thing that made him seem light and happy. She said, I remember he was really excited to tell his parents. I was watching someone newly sober at the edge of a cliff and I didn't know him well enough to help him. In her head, in my head, I'm thinking, I don't really know what's happening with this guy. It feels pretty shaky. But then I would see him at the Troubadour and be like, man, he's on fire. He's just that phenomenal. By the time she was six months pregnant, she decided to get involved in his recovery and stage a mini intervention. They agreed at the time that she would give him random drug tests, which is still something she does to this day. Two months later, they decided to raise their son as a couple.
Claudia
So cute.
Jackie
So cute. And then he announced that they were expecting their first child after their relationship was exposed that spring. So it's just like so Crazy that all of this came out and, like, they really barely knew what they were even doing.
Claudia
Well, I think that, like, this actually it does make sense. I didn't envision it that way. I thought that they decided to have a child together.
Jackie
Yeah.
Claudia
And then for all the girlies who can't move past Anna Marie Tendler, they're like, well, he never had a kid with his wife of 10 years. And so actually this is Conger's with the person we knew him to be. Like, kids was not in the plan.
Jackie
Yeah.
Claudia
And of course it happened. And it's like, you know, a happy accident. And it's beautiful, but it actually, I think makes shamalaney look very good. It's not like he just didn't want to have kids with Anna Marie or.
Jackie
That he lied to her.
Claudia
Right. It really was not in the cards for him. But obviously accidents happen, and this was a good one. But. But I actually think this is really a good Luke for Mr. Mulaney.
Jackie
And it's a good lesson in trust your faves.
Claudia
Well, that too. But it's also a rom com in it. Like, I'm just picturing it. And it must have been very scary for him to, like, you know, be newly sober and then also find out that you got someone pregnant. Like.
Jackie
Yeah. And to be fresh out of a long term relationship. Like, I imagine this time was actually very dramatic for him. Like, that's a lot to be going through all at once while also trying to stay sober and in a new relationship. Leaving an old relationship, baby on the way.
Claudia
That's a lot. It is. The more I learn about these two, even the way she's describing, like, how, like, it really sounds like a book, like.
Jackie
And I also feel like people had painted this picture of her where it's like, yes, she knew what she. She had eyes. Yeah. Like, went right for him. And it's like, no. Even when she got pregnant, she didn't expect that they would be together.
Claudia
She definitely got like, classic woman, you know, like the Jezebel label.
Jackie
Like, the womanly wiles.
Claudia
Right. Like, she actively pursued and. And got herself pregnant. Like, they definitely, I think, like, the haters definitely pain. And they really. For years they've said nothing. And this is just like a random anecdote, but it's really like a window into how they got together. I mean, even if how they got together wasn't as cute as it sounds, like, I ship these two so hard. Like, I think they have such a beautiful life together and I think they're perfect for One another.
Jackie
Yeah. Not everything happens the way that you plan it.
Claudia
Yeah.
Jackie
Actually, what's that quote?
Claudia
Something I was just reading man plans and God laughs.
Jackie
Yeah, that too. But it was also, like, life happens in the.
Claudia
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know the one. While you're making plans or something.
Jackie
Yeah. No, but it's like, life is what happens during. It's probably highlighted in my Kindle somewhere during the things that you didn't expect. Like, it's obviously more succinct than that, but, like, I don't know.
Claudia
It's so true. And, like, look how they ended up. Like a love, another baby. They have a family of four. It's so sweet.
Jackie
Yeah.
Claudia
They are married, correct?
Jackie
Yes.
Claudia
It's so sweet. Like, I. I truly love these two.
Jackie
Me.
Claudia
And I like them both so much individually, and they sort of came to me on their own. Like, I never. I feel like before, while he was married to Anna Marie, like, everybody was obsessed with jama. Lady is the best comedian. Claudia.
Jackie
Claudia. Remember when we were just doing a list of people that we don't care about separately, but together we love. Yeah, we're talking about them.
Claudia
No, because I'm saying, actually now I care about them both so deeply, independently of one another. At one point, though, I didn't. I feel like the world tried to get me to care about John Mulaney, and I was like, get away from me. Then the world turned on him, and I said, oh, you're interesting. Come here. Yeah, but that's always what happens. Like, I only really start to like people when they have a fall from grace. Because when you're university universally beloved, I'm like, okay, whatever. I don't need to invest in you. Oh, people hate you. You're interesting. What'd you do? Come here.
Jackie
Yeah, but also, it's like, how you deal with it that builds your character and tough and shows people who you are.
Claudia
Really? Yeah, yeah.
Jackie
And shows yourself who you are.
Claudia
Yeah. Same with Olivia Munn. I mean, she was, like, we said, like, painted out to be this, like, absolute harlot. Whore of Babylon, if you will. And. No, I did my own independent research. She's a queen, and now everybody loves her because of her skims campaign and her breast cancer journey. But it's like, I liked her before.
Jackie
Where were you?
Claudia
Yeah, I liked her before.
Jackie
Where were you?
Claudia
Where were you?
Jackie
Are you ready for our next story? That's interesting to me. It's a little Outer Banks drama.
Claudia
Oh, my God. Okay, I'm familiar. And the annoying thing about this is that I'm in the middle of the most recent season. I think I have a couple of episodes left and the drama has spoiled it for me. So I just found out what happened.
Jackie
Okay, the. I am all caught up. Except I didn't watch this most recent season yet. But I think I could do it without spoiling. Except maybe you'll realize that two people get together, but that's not a major spoiler to like the actual show.
Claudia
No, no, no. Someone's leaving the show.
Jackie
Yes. I won't talk about that.
Claudia
Okay.
Jackie
I won't talk about that. But Outer Banks, the new season just dropped and two of the stars are feuding so badly that apparently they couldn't even film a hugging scene together. Now when I read this, I thought it was going to be and Madeline Klein. Because they dated so public, they have.
Claudia
Maintained like that they have a friendship. Kelsey Ballerini follows Madeleine. They're always leaving comments on each other. So I was like, oh my God, is that fake? But no, it's not about those two. And if you have been following the lore of if you're like obsessed with outer Banks, then you know all this. But most people are not like die hard Outer Banks stands like I watch.
Jackie
Every season, but I don't follow them on social media.
Claudia
So it's about JJ and Kiara who actually in the show date and I think many years ago at the beginning of the show had like a brief something. He is now engaged to somebody else.
Jackie
Yeah.
Claudia
And she is in a relationship as well.
Jackie
So rumors, I believe, with a woman.
Claudia
Yes.
Jackie
Oh, interesting. Rumors are continuing to swirl that they've had a falling out. A source exclusively tells people that they are not feuding despite ongoing speculation. Okay, sure. A couple things happen. One, eagle eyed fans noticed that in one scene in the new season, the two of them are just like sitting next to each other cuddling at a bonfire.
Claudia
Yep.
Jackie
And the way that the scene cuts, like you don't see the two, both of their faces at the same time. Making it seem like there was a body double for each of them. No, because they couldn't beat holding each.
Claudia
Other because the man is taller. There's a scene where it's like just him and she's like hugging him down below. So you see the top of her head and it's literally not her.
Jackie
Yeah, no, it's not her. And what's. I, I saw the headlines before I saw the actual clip and I was like, oh, they didn't want to film a sex scene together. Like, okay, yeah. Understand a lot of reasons for that, especially if their exes. But no, they couldn't even just wrap their arms around each other.
Claudia
And so this has been like, a fan theory for years, being like, they hate each other. They hate each other.
Jackie
They hate each other because also, there was a dinner, a cast dinner in June 2023, which was attended by guy who plays JJ and his girlfriend, and then Kiara and her partner Mariah. Yes. A woman. And in the wake of the dinner, they both reportedly unfollowed Rudy's girlfriend.
Claudia
Yes. So the rumors are that, like. And by the way, Rudy is now engaged to this girl. So the rumors are that, like, Rudy's fiance is, like, really jealous that he's. Rudy is Rudy. Yeah. But, like, she is really uncomfortable with the fact that he still actively works with and has romantic scenes with his ex. And she's very threatened. And they're really putting the whole thing on Rudy's fiance. And she forced.
Jackie
What you're gonna say next. Just don't say.
Claudia
Okay. Okay. So, like, she's the reason for all of this, which I feel like is such a convenient theory. We have no. We have no proof. And up until this point, we've really had no proof besides, like, Instagram stuff. But now the stunt double, like, being exposed. It's definitely giving a lot of credence to these rumors that have existed for many years.
Jackie
That's really crazy to me if that's what it is. Like, that's really immature, especially because of Madeline and Chase. And I also feel like just to the storyline, like, they could also break up JJ and Kiara. Like, they're not germane to the storyline, them being together. Not like Sarah and John Jay.
Claudia
John B. Yeah. And to be honest, I actually would be for that and it would make sense in the storyline because I felt this way last season and this season even more so. I cannot watch the show because of jj. Like, he is the most reckless, out of control, worst friend, worst character, worst treasure hunter. Like, the fact that he's alive and.
Jackie
Then this treasure hunter.
Claudia
And then this season, like, something happens that really pisses him off. Off. And it's wrong. You know, he gets wronged by the rich people. And what does he do? He burns down downtown. He r. He starts a riot. He starts looting. He's literally. He sets fire. And it's all local businesses, by the way, so it's like, you're not hurting any of the rich people. He beats up policemen. He destroys police cars. I'm like, wait, he really. He became like an anarchist. And that's what I was like, seriously? Ben, I can't watch a show. I can't root for these kids anymore. Like, they're anarchists. Like, at first it was like, yeah, the man. And like the rich people. And I was like, yeah, yeah, Treasure. Yeah. Now they're like defacing public property, beating up policemen, like, burning down local businesses. I can't, I can't.
Jackie
This show is so crazy and it gets to a crazy point of ridiculousness, but there is something about it that, like, warm heart. It's got hard. Like, it sticks with me. And every time there's a new season, I do wind up watching it. And it was one of my like Sir Claus shows last year that got me through like, really painful week. So for that, like always, like riding with obx, you'll have a hard time.
Claudia
Like, your moral compass will come into question. This season, me and Ben were looking at each other. We're like, what the fuck? Like, if they took it too far, Jackie, like, everybody's rioting. There's like, oh, there's. There's like a. There's like a police hunt for jj. I'm like, okay, we have seriously Outer Banks. Too close to the sun. Like, oh my God. It's really crazy.
Jackie
Okay. I'm older.
Claudia
Yeah. Like taking a baseball bat to the windows of the pharmacy, the store. Like local owned businesses. Like, I don't know what he was trying to do. Like, literally taking a bat to the electrical poles. Like, he literally shut off all the power downtown. It was really crazy. And I can't explain. Like, he. They go to this town hall because, like, the rich people are stealing from them and whatever they lose, and it's wrong. The rich people are being wrong. But he starts beating people up. So he gets thrown in a cop car. Well, John B. Takes a bat to the cop car window. JJ Runs, takes the bat and burns down downtown. Like, it's. These kids are actually now the villains understood.
Jackie
But now knowing, like that spoiler that we won't say, are you gonna keep watching?
Claudia
Like, Ben was really into it. And like, I don't know. I really, I couldn't. Like, not. So they released it in two parts. The first part, like the first four or five, maybe six episodes, I actually really liked.
Jackie
Okay.
Claudia
The second part, I was like, these people have lost the plot.
Jackie
Okay.
Claudia
I don't even know. I don't know what my future holds with this show.
Jackie
Okay. Well, I just thought this show crazy.
Claudia
That like went really viral. It's first season. I feel like every time that happens, nobody really watches like the second or the Third season. But no, it's this really strong fan base. And it's because, like, these four young kid or five, six, actually, they're beautiful. And they're always, like, taking really good photos on Instagram. And, like, people are obsessed. They travel to. To Outer Banks and watch them film. Like, it's. It kind of. It's like that Gossip Girl sort of fandom.
Jackie
Also, like Riverdale. And I think they said next season of OBX is going to be the last season. So it'd be like, total five or six seasons, which is similar to Riverdale.
Claudia
Yeah.
Jackie
And then everyone, like, wants to go do other things, right?
Claudia
Well, I think that, like, then people on TikTok are comparing it to Raja Jean Paul.
Jackie
Okay, but why? He only did one season.
Claudia
Right. But like, leaving a show that, like, made you famous for, like, other opportunities. And people are, like, worried that the person who ends up leaving. I won't say who it is, like, might have that sort of Rajan effect.
Jackie
I could see that.
Claudia
Because what in the world happened to Ray Jean?
Jackie
But he couldn't even. Season two like, that.
Claudia
I know.
Jackie
This is season four.
Claudia
Yes. Out of five.
Jackie
It's different. It's more so of a Marissa Cooper.
Claudia
I'm still waiting for that Reggie John big project to drop. Like, what did he.
Jackie
Secret project.
Claudia
Yeah. He couldn't film Bridgerton because he had this big opportunity. What was it?
Jackie
I don't know.
Claudia
That will go down in history. It's like, one of the worst choices ever made.
Jackie
Yeah. I hope he has, like, new management now.
Claudia
I don't even know what help. Oh, you hear Chapel Roan split with her management.
Jackie
I did. Because of Chapel Rome. Because she was mad that someone wrote about it. Therefore people were writing that she was mad.
Claudia
And I posted about it on their Instagram. Like, new article on our website. Read about Chapel Row. And she commented, you guys suck for this. Like, girl, calm down. It's literally their job.
Jackie
Like, yeah, chap. Gonna chop. I don't know what else to tell you guys, but she keeps.
Claudia
She keeps out chapping herself.
Jackie
Yeah.
Claudia
But because now she's getting to things that are, like, truly indefensible. Like with the paparazzi. Like, nobody's ever gonna take the paparazzi side. So we're like, yeah, chap. Go, chap. But it's like, independent journalists. Like, leave them alone.
Jackie
Well, they're not really independent journalists. But it's like, you can't, like, be mad about everything. This is.
Claudia
It's the system. Yeah.
Jackie
It's the industry. So you're in the wrong industry. And I'm not saying the industry is right for the way that it operates.
Claudia
Right. They think she's going to change it from the inside. Out with her for business and upon them. You know, chap, go off queen if you can. Can.
Jackie
Are you ready for our next story?
Claudia
What number?
Jackie
Number four. But we have Dear Toaster.
Claudia
Yeah, I'm ready. I'm ready.
Jackie
Some crazy news, which is that Travis Kelsey's Kansas City mansion was burglarized of $20,000 in cash during the Saints game, while Patrick Mahomes, his house was hit 48 hours prior.
Claudia
And to be clear, this just reminded me, the sexiest man alive this year is Travis Kelsey.
Jackie
Yeah. But the thing is, he would have never sat for that interview. Of course he would. It should have been Jason Kelsey.
Claudia
Love that, too. But, like, if we're talking about, like, accurate lists.
Jackie
Yeah.
Claudia
Sexiest man Alive of 2024. It's Travis Kelsey.
Jackie
I agree with you, but there's so.
Claudia
Many politics in the list, and I get that.
Jackie
Yeah. Burglars reportedly targeted Travis Kelsey and Patrick Mahomes his mansions in Kansas City last month ahead of their matchup against the New Orleans Saints. According to a police record obtained by Page Six on Tuesday, the burglary at Mahomes's estate was reported by a bodyguard just after midnight on October 6th. It's unknown what, if anything, was stolen from his home. He was notably out celebrating Travis's birthday the day in the hours leading up to the burglary.
Claudia
So, I mean, that's literally the house he lives in with his kids. Like, that's so scary.
Jackie
Yeah. It's unclear if anyone was home during the break in. And then less than 48 hours later, Travis's mansion was also broken into around 7:30pm Shortly after kickoff against the Saints. You know what's crazy is that they live in different states.
Claudia
Wait, what? One of them lives in Missouri.
Jackie
Missouri. And Travis lives in Kansas.
Claudia
And they probably live five minutes from each other. Like, that's so crazy. Now, this is like, probably one of the worst parts of being a public figure is, like, especially like, an athlete. Like, your schedule is literally out there for the world to see. Everybody knows when you're at training camp, and so it really makes you a target for things like this. And I think that there's really only one celebrity who's got security down pat, and it's Ms. Taylorina Swift, and she needs to hook up Trav with her guy.
Jackie
Yeah.
Claudia
Patrick, you don't think that she had. I don't know. Well, he did just move into that new house. And she's like, if she's going to spend time anywhere, it needs to be, like, completely clear. So.
Jackie
Yeah.
Claudia
I don't know. This is just like the worst feeling. I know. Nobody feels bad for celebrities because they've, like, all the money in the world and like, you're $20,000. It's not about what they stole. And maybe they stole something, you know, sentimen mental. And that's irreplaceable. But like such. I've never, God willing. God willing, bite my tongue a million times. I've never been burglarized, but I know people who have. And it is the most violating, vile, like, horrible. It's not about the things that they took ever. It's about the fact that even if you were home, if you weren't home, somebody was in your house. Like, that's a sense of peace you can never get back.
Jackie
Yeah.
Claudia
And I know people who have moved because of it, so I don't think the $20,000 is going to cripple him financially, but the sense of peace and then also, like, Taylor's not going to feel comfortable.
Jackie
Yeah.
Claudia
At a. Like, that, it just. It really offsets your entire sense of peace.
Jackie
Yeah. I hope they catch the people who did it. I feel like there's never enough, like, energy.
Claudia
Yeah. For, like, I know the boys who did it.
Jackie
Right. Like, I feel like, especially when we report with like, a lot of the celebrity homes in la, like there's. And we're always reporting those sorts of stories and it's never like, caught the thieves.
Claudia
I know. I think that's why, like, the Alexis Nyers trial was as big of a deal as it was. It was like the first time because it was this, like, organized ring. It was the same couple of people doing everyone's houses that it was such a big deal and it got such attention, not only because of their reality show, but, like, they made a movie of it, like, because who the fuck. Like, who's doing this right. Right now? I think it's. There's a difference when somebody steals from you. Like, Alexis Niers wasn't a. A dangerous person, you know, but the. The group of men who burglarized Dorit's house with guns. Like, yeah, that's different.
Jackie
And they never caught those guys.
Claudia
No. Like, it's actually so crazy.
Jackie
Yeah. Yeah. Are you ready for our fifth and final story?
Claudia
No. Is it our fifth and final story that's brought to you by State Farm?
Jackie
It is.
Claudia
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Jackie
I just want to say also, kids love ketchup. And like, you don't want to be giving them all that sugar. I use the Primal Kitchen ketchup for the kids. And like, they love it. And it's no sugar. Thank you.
Claudia
So when I'm talking about myself, like, I'm obviously also talking about kids. You guys know, we have. We're on the same level.
Jackie
Our fifth and final story is a story that I hate.
Claudia
Oh my God. It's a story that she hates.
Jackie
Lena Dunham will be writing a Sand Bacon Freed movie for Apple and a 24 based on the Michael Lewis book Going Infinite. So Apple in a 24 in early development on a film adaptation of Michael Lewis book Owning Infinite the Rise and Fall of a New Tycoon with Lena Dunham attached to write the script. So this is about Sam Bankman Fried, the founder of ftx, the cryptocurrency, the youngest billionaire, et cetera, et cetera.
Claudia
Yeah, I've done like an amazing thing for myself and it's that I really have carved out like a media blitz on Lena Dunham. Like, I am never like seeing updates on Lena Dunham. I really, I do.
Jackie
Are a lot of updates. Like.
Claudia
No, I know that there are like, like peripherally, like she does work and she was, you know, at Fashion Week. Like, I have completely carved out a world where she doesn't exist. And like that is on protecting your peace. Like.
Jackie
Yeah, no, this is doubly bad. Like Sam Brakeman freed. Yucky.
Claudia
Like, we don't need to like, let's stop making movies about criminals. Like, it just incentivizes people to do crime.
Jackie
Yeah. This was like a really crazy story.
Claudia
And I also feel like it was hard to understand. So.
Jackie
Nature. Yeah. But it's going to be insufferable.
Claudia
Yeah. And it's. What's so amazing is living in a free country. Like, I will not be watching this movie and you can't make me. Yeah, no, like you, you literally can't make me support. I won't.
Jackie
Who should play Sam Bankman? Fried. And why should be Ethan Slater.
Claudia
Oh, that's an amazing call. I was gonna say Jesse Eisenberg, but maybe I'm just like thinking small. Like Facebook. Like, you know.
Jackie
Yeah, like to like. He already did his tech movie.
Claudia
Honestly though, it's like, who's like a nerdy curly headed fuck? Like, and of course like hair and makeup. It'd be nice if we could just like visualize. Let me think, let me think. Hold on.
Jackie
I'm sure people will say like Jonah Hill, but no, he doesn't have that energy, that vibe anymore.
Claudia
And Sam Bankman was so young, like curly haired male actors. We could wear a wig, but Adrian Grenier.
Jackie
Okay, it's like if I were an actor, even though there's probably a breakout role, like, I wouldn't even want the, like that people would think I look like that.
Claudia
Okay. He's obviously like far too old. But at the time, like, if he was the right age, kind of like a Will Frell.
Jackie
Totally.
Claudia
Do you know what I mean?
Jackie
Yeah. Honestly, I think Ethan Slater in a wig.
Claudia
Timothy Chalamet. I'm sorry. Obviously that's the answer.
Jackie
Don't do that to Timothy.
Claudia
But that's the answer. I feel that is the answer.
Jackie
Okay, well, those are your facts.
Claudia
I have no other thoughts.
Jackie
Me neither. Me neither.
Claudia
Bye. The day is far from over because it's Dear Toasters Day. Every Wednesday, Jackie and I do our advice segment. It's called Dear Toasters. And we are reading real submissions from real listeners. And you can be one of those listeners. If you want to send us a submission, you can do it one of two ways. You can email us, of course. Simple. DearToastersmail.com, we'll keep your name totally anonymous. Or you can over to our website, thetoastpodcast.com scroll down. There's a submission box there. You can write whatever your heart desires. If you've written in and you haven't gotten on air, either your submission is uninteresting or it was far too long. So try and keep it concise, like need to know information. Okay? All right, first up. Hey, Jackson Turd. I got engaged to my p John back in March, and I couldn't be more excited. We started to look at venues in our area, but we haven't found the perfect one yet. I did originally want to get married in spring 2025, but I'm fine with pivoting to the fall because of the. A lot of the good dates in spring are already taken. Summer's too hot for us. When I mentioned this to my fiance, he said it's not a good idea to get married in the fall because of football season. He had the nerve to say that. I can't get mad if people come to our wedding and are on their phones during the wedding, watching the game, or even refuse to come because of football. I plan on having an amazing band, so hopefully everyone's, like, on the dance floor enjoying. He's crazy for suggesting this, right? I really don't want to wait till spring of 2026. Please help.
Jackie
Do not wait till spring of 2026. The good news is that if this is true, then it's a universal issue. I think it's. I mean, there's a chance that during the reception, people would be on their phones watching football. Those aren't the people who are going to be like, lighten up the party anyway. It's not worth not getting married. I think, like, people worry about a lot of stuff when they're planning the date for their wedding. But, like, your biggest thing should be, like, when do you want to. Like, you want to be married? You want to start your life to postpone it for football season. I would still work out. If you want to get married in the spring, like, you could find a venue. It's November. It's not too late. People cancel.
Claudia
Yeah, I don't believe in, like, a. There are certain things you should avoid. Yes, I went to a wedding on The super bowl once. And I can tell you, like, everybody was. And it was like, in another country. Everybody was looking for the WI Fi and everybody was checking their phones. Like, even if you didn't really even care about football, like, right. I would avoid football Sunday for sure.
Jackie
Super Bowl Sunday. Excuse me.
Claudia
Yeah, Super Bowl Sunday. But football season in general. Like, people miss football games all the time. It's not a big deal.
Jackie
Your husband, too long of a season to just be. Not a ripe time for wedding things.
Claudia
Your husband's far too dramatic. And I do want to say it does sound like. And maybe I'm just, like, being crazy. It sounds like your husband has a gambling problem. Like, just based on, like, his inability to not watch. I know that might be. I know that might be like, a little bit of a jump. Like, 30. You're getting ahead of yourself. I just want to say, like, look into it.
Jackie
Okay?
Claudia
People who can't miss, like, any sporting event, it's usually because they have money on it.
Jackie
Get married whenever you want, not what works for other people. You need to start your life. You can't wait for football season. Don't give up on spring 2025 and do not push to spring 2026.
Claudia
Agreed? 1000%. Now, our second submission is somebody who went viral. So normally I would be jealous, but, like, if this happened to me, seriously, just take me out back and shoot me. Okay?
Jackie
Okay.
Claudia
Hey, Jackson, turn. I woke up to a not so party. Instagram DM sending me a tick tock of my husband. He was in New York City, sitting at a table at a bar with the caption that read, ladies, if you are married to this man. He just said, my Halloween costume is a man who hates his wife and then flashed his wedding ring right at us. And he's trying to flirt with all the girls. My husband makes dumb jokes with his friends all the time. He's also not on any social media. So I sent him this video and we talked it through. I know nothing happened and nothing's wrong with our marriage, but people I know in real life keep sending me this video, and I don't know how to respond to them or how to make it stop. Help, please. How do I reply to people who I don't even know? Well, talking about this now, there's two issues. I know you only see one issue. You say, the videos, we're fine, but how do I respond to people? And we'll get to that. But I would be absolutely remiss, devastated and heartbroken if I didn't at least Talk about the video. And I know you say you talked it through, and, like, I trust you, but, like, I do fear that you are, like, getting really used to behavior that's not normal. A joke. Like, this is abhorrent. Like, it is unacceptable. It's not a joke, actually. Like, there's truth in it. So I wouldn't be so quick to skirt past this issue and onto the next one. And I actually think your. Your issue here is the joke, not people texting you about it.
Jackie
Right. So let's. Yes, the issue is what he was said, but she is asking for advice so we can operate. Let's try and operate under the guise that he's, like, a perfect husband and he made.
Claudia
But I just. I would be remiss if I didn't encourage you to, like, of course. What would you tell your friend if somebody's their husband said this about this? Like, I fear that you're, like, kind of used to being spoken down to and, like, your husband might be one of those men who, like, makes jokes about their wife even when she's around. Like, and I hate that. That's, like, one of my biggest pet peeves. Right?
Jackie
That's, like, a bad joke to make. But then they're also saying he was flirting with the girls, and, yeah, nothing happened because they thought he was an asshole. Nothing happened.
Claudia
He said he was married.
Jackie
Nothing happened because they didn't want anything to do with it, not because he didn't try.
Claudia
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is, like, a really big deal.
Jackie
But the thing is, like, if it's. If for. If somehow it's, like, not a big deal, like, your husband has the world's worst sense of humor and judgment, but is otherwise, like, a really great partner somehow. And, like, you can understand how this moment happened. Who cares what other people think? It's your life. Like, that can't be. What if you know that it was. It was fine for. However that could be possible. Like, if you know that that was fine, then, like, you need to not care what other people think. If, like, you're clearly happy in your life and that's not a reflection of your relationship.
Claudia
People sending this to you who don't really know you, they're not coming from a good place. Like, it's obviously, if it's gone viral. If I. If I barely knew you, I would just assume that you saw it. I'm not gonna text it to you. Like, they are not coming from a good place, and they don't deserve a response. So if this. If anyone who's messaging you is not someone you would normally talk to. I wouldn't even respond because you're actually looking for tactical advice on how to respond to these people. Anyone you don't know well, do not respond to.
Jackie
Do not respond. And also, like, he fucked up and embarrassed himself. They should be reaching out to him. So you should just be like, I know, crazy, right? Send it to him. Like, he should be the one feeling awkward, everybody experiencing him. This video of his bad moment. Not you.
Claudia
No, I just. It sounds like you're like the feeling of your husband embarrassing you is like one that you're familiar with. And that makes me really sad because a husband's job is to protect you and not put you in a terrible spot. And the fact that he did it and got caught on such like a global scale is unfortunate. But I'm sure you've experienced this on smaller scales all the time. And I just want to let you know, like, that's not normal. That's not good husband behavior. And I feel like you're just used to it. And even the way you wrote us, it just like concerned me about how you like skipped.
Jackie
It's very concerning. Yeah.
Claudia
Yeah. So in terms of the responding to people, like, don't.
Jackie
But also I need to.
Claudia
There's other things going on here.
Jackie
Inbox. And his friends and family are sending this to him. So like you gotta reroute. You gotta bring him in. Add some. Add him to the group text. Hey, babe.
Claudia
Reroute the shame.
Jackie
Christie saw your video.
Claudia
Oh.
Jackie
Forward it. Forward your mail.
Claudia
Yeah. Everything. Yep. A thousand percent. Okay. Our third is a crossover between Deer Toasters and Abyssal. Unburden yourself. Okay.
Jackie
Okay.
Claudia
Hey, Swirlies. I was sharing my screen while presenting to my all male team, including my seven year old business.
Jackie
This is probably like the worst way a story could start for me. Like, this is my biggest. I don't know what's coming next, but I'm scared.
Claudia
Earlier in the day I was listening to the toast and for some reason the Spotify widget popped up on my screen while I was sharing it and showed the unfortunately timed episode title tits out for the boys. For the life of me, I could not get the title off my screen and my seven year old business partner proceeded to point out the pop up. 7 year old 7D.
Jackie
Okay.
Claudia
Proceeded to point out the pop up, asking me, what is that? What does that mean? I chalked it up to a pop up and tried my best to move on with the presentation. Do I bring it up again and explain myself? Do I Just move on. Should I ask someone else on the team what I should do? Help.
Jackie
Okay, wait. I just want to look at something on Spotify because you and I were talking about this and we uploaded the episode Tits out for the Boys, an Apple podcast. Start out the I.
Claudia
When we. When we wrote it, we wrote T S and Apple took the liberty of putting an asterisk on the eye. It must go against.
Jackie
However, Spotify did not.
Claudia
Okay. Because they respect free speech.
Jackie
But now I'm wishing that they did.
Claudia
Yeah, because. Because then it was a good call.
Jackie
The old man wouldn't have ever known. He could have got toots out for the boys, tops. But it's straight up tits.
Claudia
Well, I do think that the seven year old man didn't know what he was looking at. I don't know that he knew you were actively seeking out a podcast titled Tits up for the Boys. And honestly, I apologize.
Jackie
I do. And we should keep that in mind. We should keep that in mind when we are titling episodes going forward. Maybe he wasn't reading the title. Maybe he saw two beautiful women, the COVID art, the toast, and he was.
Claudia
Probably like, really taken by our beauty, that he didn't even read the text.
Jackie
Maybe he's like, doesn't have the best sight. And he keeps asking, what is this? Because he can't see.
Claudia
Let me say two things. I think you're in the clear. One, the man didn't know what he was looking at. Like, he has no idea how to process that sort of media. You're fine. Your other younger coworkers might have known that. Now, luckily for you, the Toast is an incredibly popular podcast and we are known. We're not like a pornographic podcast. So anybody who saw it was like, oh, she's listening to the pop culture podcast. And they had a funny title. Like, thankfully we're so famous that, like, people know about us, even though in a basic sense that even if they don't listen, they know the basics, they know we're, you know, funny girls.
Jackie
Yeah.
Claudia
So you're good.
Jackie
And if they go. And if they go and Google it, like, they'll see that it's just like a pop culture podcast.
Claudia
It's not like to our popularity, you're in the clear.
Jackie
I understand feeling really awkward about this and you're right to feel that way, but I do think you can on the burden. There's a lot of different ways of, like, plausible deniability. And if anybody actually saw it and wants to dig into it, it's totally harmless. And like, seriously blame Kim Kardashian.
Claudia
Yeah. Right. Maybe if she didn't have her tits out, they wouldn't be out for the episode. Right? You're fine.
Jackie
Yeah. You can on your burden and sorry. For what it's worth, I'm sorry.
Claudia
The part we played, I. I just.
Jackie
Want to say, like, of all the things that could have come up when you shared your screen, like, that's really not the worst thing.
Claudia
So true.
Jackie
Like your nude photos, of course, like, come to mind.
Claudia
Of course. No, no.
Jackie
Your husband sent you a dick pic. Comes.
Claudia
Well, yeah. A lot of people, like, take pictures of their poo. That's like a thing people do. Oh.
Jackie
Or like, of like a really bad pimple. Or like.
Claudia
Yeah, or like, like you have something on your vagina. Like you need to send the doctor. Like, hey, I've got this like, pimple. Is this normal? Let me know. Yeah.
Jackie
Like it could have been a pic that you would send your doctor.
Claudia
I mean, I have a thousand photos of my tonsils. Like, whenever I get sick, I'm always taking pictures. Like flash, high resolution. Like, and it looks it. It looks like a vagina. Like, you're fine.
Jackie
Yeah. Just think about all the other worst things that it could have been and then you will feel great.
Claudia
You guys, thanks so much for writing in. That is our show. Thank you so much for listening to the toast. Make sure to head over to shoptoastmerch.com get your merchandise. You have a couple of days. So like don't worry. And the pieces won't sell out since it's all pre order. Keep in mind it's four to five weeks for delivery. Thanks so much for listening to the toast. Melanie morning show where you live a device my stories you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So if you're watching us on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe and give this video a thumbs up. We're also available as podcast and where podcasts can be found. So it's Spotify tune citro publicly. I already cast box all the places web listen to podcasting five star review about a beautiful standing in wickedly talented we are.
Jackie
Love you.
Claudia
Bye.
Podcast Summary: The Toast – "Sexiest Man Available" | November 13th, 2024
Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry
Podcast Description: Take a bite out of The Toast, weekdays with Jackie & Claudia Oshry.
Episode Title: Sexiest Man Available
Release Date: Wednesday, November 13th, 2024
Timestamp: [00:03 - 02:27]
Jackie and Claudia kick off the episode by celebrating the launch of their fall merchandise collection. After weeks of teasing, the new merch became available at 10 AM on shoptoastmerch.com. Claudia describes the collection as their final big drop for the year with an emphasis on autumnal and collegiate vibes. The lineup includes:
Claudia highlights the quality and fit, noting that most items run true to size and offering sizing advice for those interested in a more fitted or oversized look. Jackie expresses her enthusiasm, particularly for the cardigans featuring the Toast logo, stating, "I feel like the cardigan, the tee, the camel logo, the girly swirly university... I can finally wear that across my chest like it's a beautiful thing." [01:09]
Notable Quote:
Timestamp: [02:27 - 04:14]
The conversation shifts to the challenges of maintaining appearance while on camera. Both hosts discuss the pressure to look put-together, comparing it to having parents lay out clothes during childhood. Claudia shares her experience of dressing up for a meeting with the President of Israel, admitting, "I felt so stupid." [03:11]
Jackie relates by mentioning the difficulty of balancing comfort with style, saying, "Sometimes I just feel so out of place in my outfit." Claudia echoes these sentiments, expressing that looking fancy often hampers her performance on the podcast.
Notable Quotes:
Timestamp: [19:09 - 24:54]
The hosts delve into the celebration and controversy surrounding the announcement of John Krasinski as People Magazine's Sexiest Man Alive. Jackie supports the choice, noting Krasinski's widespread appeal, while Claudia raises concerns based on rumors suggesting that actor Glenn Powell paid for the title to revive his career.
Claudia reveals two critical points:
Despite these claims, Jackie defends Krasinski, emphasizing his genuine popularity and success with projects like "Jack Ryan" and "A Quiet Place." Claudia remains skeptical but ultimately agrees that Krasinski is a fitting choice, acknowledging that the rumors may not be entirely accurate.
Notable Quotes:
Timestamp: [29:00 - 35:12]
Jackie and Claudia discuss Olivia Munn's revelations about her early relationship with comedian John Mulaney as featured in a GQ interview. Olivia recounts how their relationship began unexpectedly when she discovered she was pregnant and barely knew Mulaney. She describes staging a mini-intervention to support his sobriety and transitioning into a committed relationship two months later.
The hosts praise the authenticity and growth of their relationship, highlighting how unexpected life events can lead to meaningful connections. They emphasize their support for the couple, celebrating their journey from an uncertain start to a stable and loving family.
Notable Quotes:
Timestamp: [36:39 - 43:38]
The hosts express their frustration with recent developments in the TV show Outer Banks, particularly the escalating violence and character arcs that have turned beloved characters into antagonists. They discuss a rumored feud between cast members JJ and Kiara, noting unusual filming methods like the use of body doubles for intimate scenes, which fuels speculation about off-screen tensions.
Claudia shares her disappointment with JJ’s character development, describing him as increasingly reckless and antagonistic. Jackie relates by mentioning how the show’s winding plot still captivates her despite its sometimes absurd developments.
Notable Quotes:
Timestamp: [57:00 - 67:39]
In the Dear Toasters segment, Jackie and Claudia respond to listener submissions seeking relationship advice.
Submission 1:
A listener is planning her wedding but faces objections from her fiancé about avoiding football season.
Submission 2:
A listener is troubled by her husband’s viral video where he flirts with other women while flaunting his wedding ring. She’s unsure how to respond to friends who are sharing the video.
Submission 3:
A listener accidentally shared a podcast episode titled "Tits Out for the Boys" during a presentation, leading her seven-year-old business partner to question its meaning.
The hosts provide thoughtful and candid advice, emphasizing the importance of prioritizing personal happiness and addressing problematic behaviors directly.
Notable Quotes:
Timestamp: [43:38 - 67:39]
Beyond the major segments, Jackie and Claudia touch on various celebrity news and listener stories, including:
Outer Banks cast dynamics
Security issues faced by athletes Travis Kelsey and Patrick Mahomes' homes being burglarized
Upcoming projects and controversies:
Commercial Segments:
The episode includes brief mentions of sponsors like Good American, Skylight Frames, Blue Nile, State Farm, and Peloton, promoting their products with personal anecdotes.
Notable Quotes:
In this episode of The Toast, Jackie and Claudia Oshry navigate a blend of personal updates, celebrity gossip, and listener advice with their signature humor and candidness. From launching a new merch line to dissecting the complexities of celebrity relationships and addressing listener dilemmas, the hosts provide an engaging and insightful take on contemporary issues, all while maintaining their relatable and entertaining dynamic.
Final Notable Quote:
Recommended For: Listeners interested in an entertaining mix of pop culture, personal anecdotes, and practical advice, presented in a conversational and humorous style by Jackie and Claudia Oshry.