Sisters in Reflux: Wednesday, September 3rd, 2025

Summary

The Toast – “Sisters in Reflux”

Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry
Date: Wednesday, September 3rd, 2025
Podcast: The Toast (Dear Media)

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Episode Overview

This episode celebrates the classic chaotic energy that listeners love from The Toast. After a brief hiatus, Jackie and Claudia return with their signature blend of pop culture commentary, life updates, sisterly banter, and unfiltered advice. Today's show covers everything from sick days and acid reflux to US Open adventures, pop culture news (Dancing With the Stars, SNL, Kim Kardashian hot takes), and their beloved "Dear Toasters" advice segment.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Return From Hiatus: Sickness, Sore Throats, & Pushing Through

• Jackie is battling a relentless sore throat, mucus, cough, and reflux issues, recounting her "podcaster’s nightmare":
  • “My body is saying, we’re not fit to podcast, and I’m saying, I don’t care. I’m not listening to you.” (01:03)
• Claudia jokes about the podcaster grind: “It’s like breaking your ankle as a basketball player. Our voices are our instrument. It is our most prized possession.” (01:24)

2. Acid Reflux and Sisterly Solidarity

• Both sisters bond over nightmarish acid reflux:
  • Jackie’s is tied to pregnancy/sickness, Claudia’s to US Open cocktails ("Honey Deuce"):
    • “Last night I had acid reflux from all the honey deuces. That was my point.” (07:46)
    • “So we were sisters in reflux last night from all the Grand Marnier.” (07:49)

3. US Open Recap: Influencer Life & Tennis Drama

• Claudia recounts a chaotic US Open experience, lack of souvenir cups, and tennis fandom:
  • “They charged me full price. No melon, no cup. Full price. Recession indicator.” (04:39)
  • Spritz-sponsored doubles team (Robert Cash & J.J. Tracy) made semifinals:
    • “They beat a huge Argentinian duo, ranked number 10 in the world. They won. It was literally insane.” (06:03)
  • Listeners are urged to “cheer on our boys!” (06:31)

4. Book Club & Redheads Drama

• The sisters discuss internal drama with their book club, tersely outlining alliances and tastes:
  • “Dana and Margo aligned. This hasn’t happened since Dolly Alderton, All the Things I Know About Love.” (10:10)

5. Home Organization, Ben’s Sourdough Obsession, and Spousal Antics

• Jackie is decluttering and Ben is fully in his “sourdough era.”
  • On Ben: “He’s going to be making, like, turmeric loaves… My kitchen is full of yeast and pickles. I can’t.” (12:17–12:23)

6. Changing Pop Culture Allegiances & Overexposure

• Jackie and Claudia reflect on how quickly intense interest in celebrity news fades, relating to topics like Blake/Justin, Bill Belichick, or football WAG drama:
  • “It’s funny how you can, like, feel so strongly about something and then it just dissipates.” (15:08)
  • “Now it’s like, my position is I don’t give a rip.” (13:56)

7. The “Big Little Feelings” Podcast Doppelgängers

• Comparing themselves to fellow Dear Media hosts Big Little Feelings:
  • “It was literally like looking into a crystal ball. Their podcast is called Big Little Feelings. It’s about motherhood and parenthood…” (16:23)

8. Vegas Yearnings & Geographic FOMO

• Claudia raves about Vegas as a West Coast perk, and exposés on influencer events:
  • “Nothing makes me want to live on the West Coast or LA specifically, except for two things: proximity to Vegas…and watching the sunset over the ocean.” (18:57–19:25)

9. Spencer Pratt, “Fire Aid” Scandal, and Celebrity Accountability

• The sisters discuss Spencer Pratt’s investigative reporting on misused fire charity funds:
  • “That festival…all the celebrities getting together pretty much helped nobody.” (20:33)
  • On celebrity endorsements gone wrong: “I don’t think there’s malice, but…think before you lend your time to a fruitless cause.” (20:59–21:15)

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The Fast 5 Stories (Starting at 25:39)

1. Dancing With the Stars Season 34 Cast Reveal (25:39–33:41)

• Alex Earle is the season’s star—praised for blending “old” and “new” celebrity types.

• Cast includes Olympic medalist Jordan Chiles, Dylan Efron, Danielle Fishel (Topanga!), Scott Hoying, Elaine Hendrix, Baron Davis, Corey Feldman, Lauren Jauregui, Andy Richter, Robert Irwin, Jenna Affleck, Whitney Leavitt, and Hilaria Baldwin.

• Sisters critique celebrity partners, postpartum representation, TikTok dancers, and “mom influencers” on the roster.

  “One thing about our show, I’m not gonna watch.” — Claudia (26:34)

  “She could date whoever she wanted…but she’s chosen stability.” — Claudia on Alex Earle (27:44)

  On Whitney Leavitt: “She’s been coming up all over my TikTok…She's an insane dancer.” (31:27)

2. SNL’s Major Cast Shakeup (37:21–40:45)

• Multiple cast members fired after Season 51; new hires include Jeremy Culhane and promising viral comedian Veronica.

• “Please Don’t Destroy” (internet sketch team) undergoes shakeup; the sisters appreciate SNL’s turn toward internet-savvy cast members.

  “When people criticize SNL for not being relevant anymore…they say, besides Please Don’t Destroy and Bowen Yang…” (40:01)

3. Cardi B Wins $24 Million Assault Lawsuit (40:45–43:44)

• Cardi B cleared by jury; vows to countersue in the future to deter frivolous lawsuits.

  “‘Don’t you ever think that you’re gonna sue me and I’m just gonna settle and give you my money. It’s not gonna happen.’” — Cardi B (41:46)

  “No, I love this. I think it’s a great precedent…She should do it. I don’t think she should wait another minute.” — Jackie (42:13)

4. Kim Kardashian’s Homework Hot Take (43:46–49:55)

• Kim tells streamer Kai Cenat she doesn’t believe in homework:

  “Kids are in school for 8 hours a day...When they come home, they need to also do sports, have a life, spend time with their family. I think that homework should be left for in school.” (46:16)

• Jackie and Claudia debate the pros/cons of homework, student well-being, educational balance, and how their dual curriculum high school was “insane” (46:30–49:55).

5. Taylor Swift Super Bowl Rumors (55:59–59:48)

• NFL commissioner Roger Goodell hints at Taylor headlining the halftime show (“It’s a maybe”).
• The sisters analyze Taylor’s plausible involvement and the industry’s strategic maneuvering:

  “The evidence is extremely compelling—but every time I get invested in a Taylor theory…she’s a crazy person.” — Claudia (59:17)

• Miley as an alternate Super Bowl pick is discussed.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On illness and podcasting:

  “My body is saying, we’re not fit to podcast, and I’m saying, I don’t care. I’m not listening to you.” — Jackie (01:03)

• On order ‘hot water with lemon’ as a red flag:

  “If anyone in your life is ever seriously ordering hot water with lemon—be concerned about them.” — Claudia (02:33)

• On sourdough and husbands:

  “He’s going to be so hopped up on just sourdough, plain and simple…and then he could also get to inclusions.” — Jackie (11:41)

• On influencer life at the US Open:

  “Drinking honey deuces that they couldn’t even take a photo of.” — Claudia (04:50)

• On changing your mind:

  “Normalize learning new information and changing your mind.” — Claudia (29:05)

• On pop culture hype cycles:

  “It’s funny how you can, like, feel so strongly about something and then it just dissipates.” — Jackie (15:08)

• On Dancing with the Stars:

  “One thing about our show, I’m not gonna watch.” — Claudia (26:34)

• On Kim Kardashian's homework stance:

  "I actually agree with Kim…maybe if the children were better balanced, had time to run around…they wouldn’t feel like they want to kill themselves at school." — Claudia (48:02)

• On Super Bowl halftime rumors:

  “If it’s not her, for whoever it is...it’s gonna be a major disappointment.” — Claudia (58:20)

• On polyamorous friend groups:

  “Could there be anything more interesting than this?…I’d grab a vat of popcorn and watch.” — Jackie (66:26–66:42)

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"Dear Toasters" Advice Segment

(59:48–70:23)

1. Pregnant Friend Drinking at Parties

   • Concern for a pregnant friend who continues to drink at social events, insists doctor “says it’s fine.”
   • Jackie and Claudia are unequivocal: “Call her mom. Call her husband. If you can’t stop drinking when you’re pregnant, you’re an alcoholic.” (62:06)

2. Boyfriend Secretly Jobless

   • Listener's boyfriend was fired, pretended to go to work for a month.
   • Both agree deception is a red flag: “It’s not the crime, it’s the cover-up…this is the type of guy who has a second family.” (64:03)

3. Friend Group Swingers Dilemma

   • Two couples in a friend group become polyamorous; listener wonders if they should still go on vacation together.
   • Jackie: “This is so entertaining…Could there be anything more interesting than this?” (66:26)
   • Claudia: “If you want to be famous, stick around.”

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Notable Timestamps

• Return from break / illness: 00:42–03:17
• US Open & influencer life: 03:21–07:32
• Book club dynamics: 09:29–10:14
• Home organizing & Ben’s sourdough: 10:24–13:13
• Pop culture “over it” chat: 13:45–15:35
• Big Little Feelings doppelgängers: 15:54–17:02
• Vegas life & West Coast envy: 18:11–19:25
• Fire Aid, charity scandal: 19:25–21:18
• Dancing With The Stars cast: 25:39–33:41
• SNL cast shakeup: 37:21–40:45
• Cardi B lawsuit win: 40:45–43:44
• Kim K’s homework discourse: 43:46–49:55
• Halftime show rumors: 55:59–59:48
• Dear Toasters segment: 59:48–70:23

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Episode Tone

Energetic, irreverent, confessional, and fast-paced, with no topic too trivial or taboo. The sisters expertly balance humor and candor, often sharing personal anecdotes even when the conversation turns serious.

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For New Listeners

This episode is a quintessential Toast experience—pop culture dissected, daily chaos unpacked, and sisterly wisdom (and wit) dispensed. You’ll find yourself laughing, cringing, and questioning your own stance on everything from milk alternatives to US Open melons.

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End of Summary

Transcript

[A]

Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast. It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host.

[B]

It's your favorite show.

[A]

The Fast 5 things you need to know.

[B]

We'll start your day off swirly. It's the Toast.

[A]

They sound amazing.

[B]

Welcome back to the Toast and happy Wednesday. It is hump day. Don't forget to hump someone you love. And speaking of sorelies that I particularly adore and would love just the opportunity to hump, but I know I'm asking for too much. It's Jackie O. Hey, Jax, how you doing? Hey.

[A]

Darn good. Happy to be here. Frog in my throat. I'm, like, cracking up, even though it's not funny. We haven't podcasted for two months, and of course, the week that we come back, frog in my throat. I have, like, so much going on. Mucus, mucus, cough, sore throat. Like, when I cough, it hurts my throat. I pee my pants.

[B]

It's just a podcaster's nightmare.

[A]

I know I left you guys on a cliffhanger yesterday about what we were going to do with redheads, and we did record last night, and it requires so much editing from my coughing. I can't breathe because also, like, my lungs are compressed. So of course, it's just my body was not, like, listening to my body. My body is saying, we're not fit to podcasts, and I'm saying, I don't care. I'm not listening to you.

[B]

No, it's kind of like, you know, breaking your ankle. As a basketball player, our voices are instrument. It is our most prized possession.

[A]

No, like, a few days ago, I was like, what if I lost my voice and I legit could not podcast? This morning, I was drinking hot water.

[B]

With spoken into existence.

[A]

No, no, no. I was just like, that's a real concern. Like, I can still podcasts like this. It might be, like, frustrating. I know you guys hate the frog in my throat. Like, even when I don't have one, you guys hear one.

[B]

But, yeah, they're like, always make it up to Jack give a frog in her throat. Or is it just like, today?

[A]

I have multiple frogs. This morning, I was drinking hot water with lemon and honey. Like, really? I felt like Ariana Grande. Like, okay, Instrument.

[B]

Hot water with lemon is, like, so anorexic. Like, it's such a great anorexia. It's such a crazy thing to order. I feel like on Housewives, like, people are always ordering it when they, like, meet for whatever. And I've actually never been in the presence of a psychopath. Who orders hot water with lemon, like, acting like it's a dish, you know, it's such a crazy thing. Now, I understand you were doing it for medicinal purposes, but if anyone else has ever.

[A]

I am anorexic.

[B]

Yeah. If anyone in your life is ever, like, sitting down and in a serious way ordering hot water with lemon, like, be concerned about them. It's an extremely concerning thing to order.

[A]

Or they're just a podcaster who is trying their best to push through a tough time. We've had, like, rolling sickness in our house the last few weeks of summer, and. And you know what? I'm fed up.

[B]

Yeah. Sometimes when I'm getting sick, I just decide, kind of like with my period, I just decide that it's over. Do you know what I mean? It's, like, it's not because I'm still bleeding, but, like, in my mind, it's over.

[A]

No, it's, like, so not over. Just, when is it gonna be over? I'm just. I'm fed up. It's really inconveniencing. It's paining me. I'm, like, throwing up in the night for my acid reflux. Then, like, that hurts my throat, which makes me cough, which makes me pee. Like, I can't.

[B]

That's so funny. I, for very different reasons, also had acid reflux last night.

[A]

Because you were Chugga Luggin?

[B]

Yeah, because I had, like, a couple of cocktails that were really sugary. The Honey juice, the official cocktail.

[A]

What did you get to.

[B]

So I had, like, something really unfortunate happen, like, not to be a victim, but when you go to the US Open and you pay 25 for a cocktail, that's how much it is. The honeydews, they come in these, like, souvenir cups. And it makes you feel better about the fact that you spent $25 on a cocktail. And the first Honey Deuce I got was, like. We were just walking the ground. So it was like this, like, random bar, and they were like, we don't have cups. And I was like, okay, so it's free. Like, it was just. It was the same price. They just gave me a plastic cup, and I said, okay, but you can't.

[A]

Take a picture of that.

[B]

Correct. So this one I was drinking just to drink, not to take a picture of the second one. The second one I got was at a bar in a different stadium because I went to go see the doubles match, and the bartender said. I said, hi, may I have two Honey Deuces, please? I got one for Ben. He said, yeah, we don't have cups or melon, which is like the signature garnish. They have cantaloupe, like, balled out to look like a tennis ball, kind of like an olive and a martini. They put it on a toothpick. It's so delicious. It looks like a grape. They ball it to perfection. She was like, we don't know. And they charged me full price. No. No melon, no cup. Full price.

[A]

Recession indicator.

[B]

So I was like, all right, this place sucks, first of all. But for the second match, we're going to be in a suite. It's going to be pargy. I'll slum it without my cup for the doubles match. And then when I go to the.

[A]

Djokovic match, people at the US Open suffering, drinking honey juices that they couldn't even take a photo of.

[B]

So I get to the suite. I said, hi, may I have two honey deuces, please? He said, yeah.

[A]

Period.

[B]

I said, oh, that's great. I'm so looking forward to my melons and my cup. He gives me two plastic cups. But I did get melon, and, like, I had to take a picture in a plastic cup. It was humiliating.

[A]

Like, as an influencer, I want you to know I didn't notice anything was awry. As I tapped through your story last night, I just saw.

[B]

Okay, that's good.

[A]

Influencing from the US Open. Like, with the best of them.

[B]

No, I wasn't. I was with the worst of them because I didn't even get a cup. Okay. And I had to pay for, like, five drinks that I didn't even get the souvenir cup up.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Now, let me tell you about my evening, because it was insane.

[A]

Okay?

[B]

We pull up to the men's. I told you guys yesterday, Spritz has sponsored these two athletes. They're a tennis, doubles, men's team. They're super young. They're super new. You probably haven't heard of them, and they are crushing it. Like, a couple of days ago, they beat this huge Italian team, and they made it to the quarterfinals. The quarterfinals were last night. They were playing this huge Argentinian duo, ranked number 10 in the world. They won. Like, it was literally insane. They got interviewed on tv. They put on their Spritz hats. Like, me and Ben were screaming. It was so exciting. They're so good. And everybody wants to know, like, are they single? Are they single? Are they single? I found out yesterday because you guys were, like, asking so many questions, and I was embarrassing. I, like, asked, like, the coach. I'm like, are they single? One is and one isn't. I forgot. I forgot who. Which one is which. So I don't know if that helps anyone.

[A]

You have to do the leg work yourself.

[B]

Yeah. I feel like. No, I'm, like, not sure at all. They won. It was so exciting. They're playing again today, so if you're, like, keeping up with the US Open, like, make sure to cheer on our boys, Robert Cash and J.J. tracy. I forget who they're playing today, but obviously someone good, because now it's like the semifinals. Like, it's a huge.

[A]

As the owner of the team.

[B]

Yeah. As the Mark Cuban of the doubles team, I don't think I'm going to go. Like, I went to the US Open. Like, I went hard, you know, yesterday, like, when I saw everyone, I took picture. Like, I did everything, and it's like. It's good, you know, And. And I like watching tennis in person, but I also really like watching it on tv.

[A]

You scratched that itch.

[B]

Yeah. But it was so exciting that our boys won. Like, I cannot believe we just, like, found ourselves. It's so us.

[A]

It's. Honestly, it's so Ben, like, to find himself in the middle of a major cultural moment. You know, he's Forrest Gump of pop culture.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

So it's classic. It's the benefactor, and it's trickled down to us. And so I'm enjoying it, but it does.

[B]

Being the benefits.

[A]

It does stem from Lish.

[B]

It does. It's the most bad thing to ever happen. It's such a thrill. I cannot wait to watch him play today. Huge.

[A]

Huge. Well, I'm glad you had fun. I'm glad you got your U.S. open fix.

[B]

Oh, and then I had acid reflux from all the honey deuces. That was my point.

[A]

So we were sisters in reflux last.

[B]

Night from all the grand monier, you know?

[A]

Yeah. Sisters in round ligament pain. Just all of them. Stack it up.

[B]

Stack it up. Well, we're wishing you well. How are you feeling on, like, a mood basis today? Good.

[A]

I'm excited. I feel like today's gonna be textbook toast. The stories are just, like, so stories.

[B]

And as promised, we have dear toasters.

[A]

Excited for dear toasters, and they're hysterical.

[B]

I was chuckling to myself while reading them before a nice mixed bag, you know?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Love that of. Of the swirlies at different life stages.

[A]

I'm sure they've had a tough summer.

[B]

Of course, the girls are in dire straits. We are here. We're like super nanny.

[A]

We are like, super.

[B]

I'm on my way. Oh, my.

[A]

Sorry. Just. It had to be done. I was fading. You. Did you sense I was fading?

[B]

I didn't actually know.

[A]

Okay. Like, my voice was getting, like, lower and lower, so I just. Oh, I just had to do it.

[B]

I was. I was kind of focusing on my.

[A]

I couldn't wait until the ad break. Like, it had to be done.

[B]

It was such a thrill to be back yesterday and have so much fanfare. Right. Like, I know you're not on Tick Tock, but, like, there was a million Tick Tocks I saw. Like, I'm at the toast this back. The toast back. Comments. Comments were like, number three in the charts. Everybody's like, you know, eating it up. And I love that. Let's keep it up. Maybe every day.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That kind of.

[A]

That energy that, like, sort of made me feel good. Tagging us that you're watching and listening content.

[B]

Engaging comment. Like, subscribe.

[A]

I'm not on Tik Tok, but, like, I got a lot of mentions in. My mentions highlight people enjoying the episode. And I'm just. I'm so happy we're all back together. Nature is healed.

[B]

It feels good.

[A]

Yeah, it definitely does. Feels that feels right.

[B]

Things tfr.

[A]

Tfr. Speaking of that feels right, Redhead's episode. Like, we read this book called the Bright Years. Have you heard of it?

[B]

No.

[A]

I think it's like I've kind of.

[B]

Taken a step back from the book space.

[A]

Yeah, me as well. But I do think it's, like, swirling around, you know, there was very dismissive opinions.

[B]

Dismissive.

[A]

Dismissive. Yeah.

[B]

Let me guess. Margot and RIT against you and Dana.

[A]

No. No.

[B]

You and Margo against Dana and RIT No. You and RIT against Dana and Margot.

[A]

Yeah, mostly. Yeah.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

Yeah. Dana and Margo aligned. This hasn't happened since Dolly Alderton. All the Things I Know About Love.

[B]

That was the worst book.

[A]

That was the last book that they both loved so much.

[B]

Oh, my God. I like. You guys sold me so hard on that book. And it was like, one of the worst experiences of my life.

[A]

I'm sorry. It was mid for me. Like, it was good, but mid.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So that's what I've been up to. And just my. I finished organizing my closet with my closet organizer yesterday. So I just have, like, peace, you know? My home is, like, getting back to. It's actually back to status. Continuing to throw things in the garbage.

[B]

I love that. Garbage. Garbage, garbage. One thing about me, like, going to throw it in the garbage, you know?

[A]

Oh, what's this? Garbage?

[B]

Yeah. I don't care. I'm always throwing things in the garbage. Ben came in today and he was like, have you seen my turmeric? And I was like, no, I haven't seen your turmeric. There's a high likelihood. I threw it out yesterday. I was on like a big sweep.

[A]

There's more turmeric to be found. If he misses a few days, he'll be okay.

[B]

It is what it is till it a anymore.

[A]

But actually, his turmeric habits and his commitment to the software wellness longevity institute, like, technology bode well for his sourdough journey. That, like, he has that discipline in him.

[B]

Except, like, I could see him getting nutty. You know, people get crazy. Like, Olivia makes like, you know, blueberry, egg McMuffin sourdough. Ben's gonna be making, like, turmeric loaves.

[A]

Oh, for sure. But you have time till that happens.

[B]

Like, we got a bread box.

[A]

He's going to be so hopped up on just sourdough, plain and simple. And then he could also get to inclusions. Like, it'll be a while till he takes it to the next level. But he called me yesterday, like, looking for advice. And I was like. He was telling me how he fed his starter. He's like, I dumped some out and I poured, put in more. I was like, you have to put it in like another jar at some point. Every once in a while. You can use the same jar two days in a row. But, like, you do need fresh. He was like, I only have one jar.

[B]

No, wait, not anymore. So he didn't instacart from the dollar store and got like 15 mason jars. They arrived. Jackie, they're tiny.

[A]

Yeah, that's not gonna work.

[B]

They're the wrong size. He's like, I'll use them for pickling.

[A]

He'll use them for. For jam.

[B]

How is this my life? Like, my kitchen is full of, like yeast and pickles. I can't. I'll use them for pickling.

[A]

Okay. Pickling. You'll never see the fruits of because you don't like pickles. But just wait till the bread comes. Yeah, it's a loaf story.

[B]

I'm open.

[A]

I know you are. You're so open minded.

[B]

I really am. I just want to say I really am. Like, I'm constantly, like, changing my mind, learning, you know, new information and changing my mind constantly. I've been listening to so much Sam Hunt constantly.

[A]

After immense years, long pressure campaigns, you are constantly changing your mind.

[B]

And I know what people are going to say. Well, Claudia, have you changed Your mind yet on just.

[A]

Oh, I wasn't even thinking that.

[B]

And the answer is no.

[A]

No.

[B]

Only now, because I. I can't. Like, I have to be team Blake forever.

[A]

Have to be principled.

[B]

And the thing is, if I ever get to a point where, like, I do switch sides, it will be more so, like, out of dislike for Blake Lively, I will never be championing. Like, I'm not buying what Justin Baldoni is saying. However, I could see a world in which, in this, like, we learn more. And the case comes out that, like, I'm not siding with Blake anymore, but just to be clear, like, I ain't riding with Justin ever.

[A]

Okay. I think that's fair.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

There was something else I was thinking about, like, so reminds me of Blake and Justin, where it's like, it took up so much of our brain space for so long, like, so passionate, and now it's like, my position is I don't give a rip.

[B]

And it's really. Yeah.

[A]

You know what else I feel that way about now?

[B]

Since, like, something you cared so much.

[A]

About, like, something that was hot. Everyone was, like, hot take. Not even hot take, but, like, opinionated. Like, big story. And now I'm just like, I don't give a fuck.

[B]

Love Island.

[A]

No, that you were on maternity leave, so maybe it'll slip your mind, but because football's back in session, and UNC played this weekend, Bill Belichick and Jordan.

[B]

Oh, I love Bill Belichick and Jordan. Did you see she filed a trademark for a jewelry company named Gold Digger.

[A]

I did. And it's like, when I see them together now, I don't give a fudge.

[B]

Oh, man.

[A]

You want to ruin your life? Go ahead like that. My problem, and I don't feel passionate about it anymore. I agree.

[B]

It was fun for, like, a week, and now it's become, like. It's like they're just a couple that gets followed and lots of paparazzi and lots of stories. And I'm off. The train I was on, though, for. For the week.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I think that the train should have been stopped there.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But of course, it kept going.

[A]

But they had, like, a swirly summer together. They're very much together. He doesn't give a fuck what you all think about him. Neither does she. So, like, live in peace. Go off. I. I don't care.

[B]

Pop off Jordan.

[A]

Pop off Jordan.

[B]

Yeah, that's like.

[A]

It's.

[B]

It's as simple and as complicated as that.

[A]

Yeah. So it's funny how you can, like, feel so strongly about something and then it just dissipates.

[B]

Yeah, well, I think that's kind of the culture now. Right? Like, there's so much content, so much news, so many, like, famous people. It's. You get so overstimulated, everybody. You're talking about something extensively non stop for two weeks, and then you never hear about that person again.

[A]

Yeah, but does it make you think about how you react to those things in the moment? Do you feel, like, pressure to have a big feelings about it?

[B]

Okay, so there are a lot of pop culture stories where everyone's, like, tagging me or you because they think it's, like, something you really care about. And I hate to disappoint people by saying, like, I don't give a fudge.

[A]

Yeah, I do feel sort of pressure to have big feelings about stuff sometimes. And I'm. Little feelings. I'm gonna leave that in Q3. Big little feelings.

[B]

Stop.

[A]

I love them. We need to tell.

[B]

No, of course we need to tell. Have we not told that story?

[A]

We've never told this story.

[B]

Jackie sent me a graphic like, a year ago of this podcast called Big Little Feelings, and it was literally us in 10 years. It's like a redhead, like, a light porcelain skin. Does she have red hair?

[A]

She has red hair. She has my coloring.

[B]

And then, like, literally, me, like a brunette. And they have a podcast. And they were like, Jackie sent me a clip of theirs, and they were filming in front of, like, banana leaf wallpaper. And I was like, oh, my God, is this our future?

[A]

It was literally like looking into a crystal ball. Their pod. Their podcast is called Big Little Feelings. It's about motherhood and parenthood.

[B]

And apparently it's like, a huge podcast. They recently signed to Dear Media, actually.

[A]

Right. It is a huge podcast. They have, like, a really big Instagram page, too. And it is literally us in 10 years. It was the craziest thing to see.

[B]

It was the craziest thing. And I kind of love, like, their.

[A]

Artwork looks like ours. And not even. Because I'm not. Nothing like copying or anything. Just because they are us.

[B]

Yeah. And it's like they're sitting with a microphone. Hello.

[A]

And they're us and they're women and they're girls. And so it's pink and it's green.

[B]

Yeah, A thousand percent.

[A]

So that always sparks joy for us when we see them out in the sphere.

[B]

It's so true.

[A]

In the real sphere.

[B]

Speaking of the sphere, I kind of want to go.

[A]

Yeah, but, like, of everything you've seen there, what would you want to go?

[B]

Most for nothing. So they're not catering to me, which is completely fine. But like Grateful Dead must. Miss Backstreet Boys don't give a Wizard of Oz. Okay, so I saw the wizard of Oz. That's like the one I was like, damn. But it wasn't a concert.

[A]

No, it was like a 360 movie with, like, you could feel the tornado.

[B]

So I think that would actually make me nauseous. So, again, pass. I had heard whispers about Miley maybe doing a residency there. Would love. I need them to have someone there that I personally care about. And, like, then I'm down to make a trip of it.

[A]

I agree. Rascal Flats at the Sphere.

[B]

Or like, you know, literally anyone. Like, I don't even. It doesn't need to be my favorite person. It doesn't need to be like, Taylor Swift or Luke Homes. Like, someone I like.

[A]

Like someone you would enjoy. Yeah, I'm down. I'm telling you, Vegas is looking so attractive. Let's go, like, sponsored by Vegas.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

You know what I mean? I feel like the way we've been talking about, me especially, it sounds like I'm getting paid by the tourism board of Las Vegas.

[B]

Just to be clear.

[A]

I'm not.

[B]

Are you not?

[A]

No, no, no. I would take their money and I would do it still.

[B]

I would take their money and bet it all on red.

[A]

But I'm just telling you, like, Vegas sounds like a good idea at this stage in my life.

[B]

Vegas is always a good idea.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Not true.

[A]

I actually. I happen to love Vegas, like, pre in my prior lives.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I actually think it would be a fun trip to take with kids. It's a little too far to just do, like, a weekend trip with kids from, like, the East Coast. But if I lived in la, I'd be in Vegas.

[B]

So there are two reasons why I think living in la. Oh, remind me. I want to tell you something about Spencer Pratt. Two things about.

[A]

I have a notebook for that.

[B]

Oh, great. There. Nothing makes me want to live on the west coast or LA specifically, except for two things. One, to proximity to Vegas. Like, we really don't have an equivalent to that in the East Coast. And I know everyone's gonna say in Atlantic City, but, like, please, if you've ever been there, you know, it's nothing like Vegas. I do, like, get jealous that people can do, like, weekend trips to Vegas. That's really fun. I also get jealous that they get to watch the sunset over the ocean as opposed to rise, because, like, I'm never awake for the sunrise. But I'm always awake for the sunset.

[A]

That. Yeah.

[B]

Speaking of Spencer Pratt, I saw something when we were on break that was so crazy because we talked about it on the Toast Fire Aid. Remember that, like, concert that all the celebrities and musicians put on to, like, raise money for victims of the Palisades Fire Aid. So Spencer Pratt is on his investigative journalism, and it turns out, like, none of the money Billy Eilish and Alanis.

[A]

Morissette raised, it was like a hundred million dollars.

[B]

I think it was like 60 or 50 million dollars that they raised Roundup. Almost none of it. Sorry, not almost none of it has.

[A]

Made it to any victim of the fire.

[B]

Right. And then Spencer posted this clip, like, investigating, like, so the money. If you read their website, they were raising money. This is always shady when, like, an organization is raising money for another organization. It's like, well, you're the organization. Like, do the work. So they were giving money to, like, a hundred organizations. And he posted this clip. I gotta find it. It was really good. But that festival that we talked about extensively, like, all the celebrities getting together in, like, 72 hours pretty much helped nobody, right?

[A]

And where's the accountability?

[B]

Well, it's on Spencer Pratt's Instagram.

[A]

Like, where's the apologies? Where's the money? First of all, where's the money? You know, let's get the money to the people. But then it's like, well, who's the fraudster here? Who's going to jail? I want to see who's responsible. Some jail time.

[B]

And then it's like, fire Festival. Do we blame, you know, Emily Ratajkowski? Do we blame Billie Eilish? Like, the celebrities involved who obviously, like, most likely didn't know about it, but.

[A]

They should feel stupid. But I don't blame them. I don't, like, I don't think there's malice there, but. But feel stupid, definitely, legally. And. And think, like, before you lend your time and your energy to a fruitless, fraudulent cause, maybe lend it to a fruitful cause.

[B]

It might be nice.

[A]

Lots of fruit.

[B]

So I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I don't feel as though we should daily dally that much more because we do have deer toasters, and I don't want to rush.

[A]

I agree. I'm ready to get into the fast five stories that you that do need to know.

[B]

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[A]

A baby's bottom, it needs to be protected.

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[A]

Yeah, it's got. There's proof in the pudding, you know.

[B]

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[A]

Thank you. Slash turt.

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[A]

Our first story, the Dancing with The Stars season 4 cast 34 cast has been revealed. This is just, you know, like we're back to normal when this is our Lead story, the Dancing with the Stars cast. I actually have found this announcement to be quite exciting, and I am going to credit that to Mrs. Earle. Like, of course. She was, like, one of the only people they announced yet seeing her official photos. Look at her Instagram. She posted, like, the official photos and it's like, it just. It really feels like two worlds coming together because the photos are, like, so commercial, but, like, she's so tick tock and Instagram. And I was happy in that environment.

[B]

They're leading with her. Right. Like, she was one of the only people who was announced as a cast member, like, months ago. And then she went on GMA this morning and announced the rest of the cast. Like, they're clearly, like, betting on Alex, which I love. Like, seeing the value in the Earl girl. Oh, look at her. She looks so cute.

[A]

Right? Doesn't that make you excited?

[B]

No.

[A]

One thing about our show, I'm not gonna watch.

[B]

I'm not watching. I am a fan. Like, she's so cute. I feel like she's just, like, a fun loving gal. I mean, she looks so cute.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I don't really know what it means. People are like, whenever someone gets cast, like, I need to know who her partner is. Like, I don't know what it means. But she's partnered with Valentine now. I feel like he's an og. Like, that's a good one.

[A]

Yes. Also, I only care when people aren't partnered if, like, the person is, like, single, eligible, and they wind up with someone, like, single and eligible. Because a lot of, like, love matches do come from Dancing with the Stars.

[B]

Right. He is married to a fellow dancer. They have kids together. She's with Braxton.

[A]

She's not going anywhere. She loves Braxton.

[B]

Well, think about Alex Earl. She loves that guy.

[A]

She really loves him. It's really beautiful.

[B]

It is like, not her, you know, hawking over every week to Houston.

[A]

Yeah. As if she doesn't have enough going on. She just, like, really loves him. That's all that is.

[B]

I love that because, like, she could be doing. And I would have loved it, too, if she was, like, you know, bopping around dating Leonardo DiCaprio. Like, she literally could. She could date whoever she wanted, and that would be fun. And she'd be in the paparazzi a lot and it'd be cool. But, like, she's chosen stability, and I.

[A]

Love that she's chosen love.

[B]

And I think we could all learn something from Alex Earl, because this is a girl with endless options. Right. She could date anyone and not that there's literally anything wrong with Braxton. He's like a hot NFL player. But, like, she's chose someone, like, stable, someone safe. Not like the coolest, richest guy who was gonna, like, cheat on her, you know?

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, I love that. Really beautiful. So here's the cast of dancing stars. Some of them we did already know. First, we have Olympic gym mystical medalist Jordan Childs. A perfect casting we always need.

[B]

Well, at the end we do. Is it fair? Because she's literally a professional twirler.

[A]

It's more fair than other things have been. Yes, we have Dylan Efron, who won Traders spoiler alert. And is brother of Zach. Yes, we have Boy Meets World alum Danielle Fishel. Topanga.

[B]

Topanga. Cute.

[A]

We have. Oh, cover your ears. Pentatonic singer Scott Hoying.

[B]

Okay, so I. I know him from Tick Tock. I like him. And you know, by the way, harking back to the earlier conversation we had here, normalize learning new information and changing your mind. I used to think pentatonix was, like, annoying and corny. And then I heard their cover of There can be miracles. When you believe. When you believe the hope is for real. Like, and I changed my mind.

[A]

Yeah, no, they're really a talented bunch. It's amazing what they can do without instruments.

[B]

It really is.

[A]

Also Elaine Hendricks from Parent Trap from Dynasty. My queen. She's such a great actress. I'm excited for her.

[B]

That's like, the perfect casting. Like, Alex Earl, like, somebody huge on the rise. And Meredith Blake, like, someone not on the down, but, like, it's the perfection balance.

[A]

A traditional celebrity. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

It's par.

[A]

NBA all star, Baron Davis. Congrats, Baron. Actor and musician Corey Feldman.

[B]

Of course, he's a child actor.

[A]

Yeah. Fifth harmony singer, Lauren Dragy.

[B]

Okay. Your inability to say her name. You said it yesterday too. I think it's.

[A]

I'm trying out different things.

[B]

It's Lauren. Hi. The one with the hole in her tights in the crotch from yesterday. The Jonas Brothers performance. Cool.

[A]

Yeah. You guys, I keep seeing more footage of the performance, and I can't look away.

[B]

Which part of it is most shocking to you? For me, it's the hole in the crotch. Like, that's just insane.

[A]

For me, it's the out of syncness, for sure.

[B]

Of course. But that's textbook 5H.

[A]

Like, when you, like, pause it, like, they're all doing something different.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

And then also when you watch each one of them individually, like, they really are trying, and that makes it harder to watch.

[B]

And the Thing is, if you just focus on Normani and everything else is, like, blurred. She's slaying.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

In the greater picture, she looks insane. Like.

[A]

But no, the more she slays, like, the harder it is to watch. I can't explain it.

[B]

You know, the whole thing was seriously insane.

[A]

Insane.

[B]

But the crotch rip takes the cake. Yeah.

[A]

And comedian Andy Richter. Additionally, we already knew about Robert Irwin, the son of Steve Irwin and Jen Affleck. And Whitney Leavitt from Secret Lives.

[B]

Her last name is Levitt. Are you okay?

[A]

There's an A. Shout out to the A.

[B]

There's an A. Because she's not Jewish. Like, if she. If there was no A, she would be Jewish.

[A]

Yeah. They actually have the upper hand here. Their really good dancers. They've got pizzazz. I could see one of them winning.

[B]

Whitney Levitt is an insane dancer. She's been coming up all over my Tik Tok, and she always danced, but she's obviously been doing more dances, like, since the Dancing with the Stars news. Jenna Affleck is, like, one month postpartum. She looks insane. She looks amazing. Those women, like, we were. We were saying the last time we recapped Secret Lives of Mormon Wives that it's such an amazing show because they're all, like, actively in their childbearing years, and they're not being, like, pushed to the side like they're stars.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it's so realistic. Like, they're on a girls trip and one of them's, like, pumping while they're having a fight. Like, it's really. It paints this era of life, like, really nicely. And it's nice that they're be. They're stars, you know, at this stage. But they're becoming a little unrealistic.

[A]

Like, they're so unrealistic for women.

[B]

They're so skinny. They're so perfect. Like, they're all becoming so rich in, like, perfect looking. Also, did you see that Macy and Michaela named their daughters the same name?

[A]

Yeah, they're both like, Charlotte. One's Lottie and one's Charlie.

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, they're not related, so it's cute.

[B]

No, and, like, they are different names. Charlie and Lottie. I don't know if I knew that, like, Lottie was Charlotte.

[A]

And I'm sure you've seen about Whitney Leavitt that, like, two of her kids, their names come from the same name. Like, she has a Liam and a Billy, which are both William.

[B]

Oh, my God. I never realized Liam was William.

[A]

Liam comes from William. Yeah. And then Billy.

[B]

No, this doesn't bother me, though, because Liam these days, like, if your kid's name is Liam. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. I think Whitney Leavitt could take it all. And I just want to say I agree. Like, it's. It's. They're setting, like, a high standard for, like, postpartum women and pregnant women. They're at Coachella dance with their bellies out, like, and that couldn't be me, but, like, up until this point, like, this period of life has been skipped over. You know, we either see, like, Jersey Shore or we see family vacation, like, or Real Housewives. And you're, like, done. Totally. And I've talked about this in my episode with Jesse when she came on the toast, that it's really amazing for women, what they're doing. And just, like, I completely agree, like, they're still in the mix. They're more relevant than ever. Like, nothing is really slowing them down. And it's, like, also on the other side, like, if you want to slow down, please do. We all do.

[B]

Yeah, of course.

[A]

Like, the fact that you don't have to. I think it sends a great message. So I'm. I love them. I hope they do great.

[B]

And new season comes, like, soon. November. I can't wait.

[A]

Taylor, Frankie Paul has a new man.

[B]

Does she?

[A]

She posted a couple days ago, like, a carousel. And in one of them, like, she's with a guy with a guitar. My phone volume, like, wasn't playing, so I didn't hear what he was singing.

[B]

But up until recently, I didn't follow them on Tick Tock. I just let the show, like, tell me what was going on on Tick Tock. But I've started to follow Taylor, Frankie, Paul, Whitney. I always follow Jesse because she's a toaster, and I feel like I'm. You get, like, two seasons, you get the show on Tick Tock, and then you get the show in real life. It's literally the best show.

[A]

It's the best show.

[B]

I love it.

[A]

So I'm excited to hear about Taylor's man. And she moved.

[B]

And we're gonna see Dancing with the Stars, I assume.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

On the show because it's a Hulu ABC syndicate.

[A]

Yes. Also, Hilaria is on the season. We already knew that. Eladia.

[B]

Yes. And did you see pictures of Eladia and Alec at the US Open sitting.

[A]

Behind Anna Wintour City, behind Adam and Tor?

[B]

Like, it's insane that they get those seats, like, because his star has fallen so much through so many things. And she's, like, crazy. And I just know And Alec is looking so missed. It's giving Bradley Cooper at Wimbledon, but like the low budget version.

[A]

Yeah. No, that was crazy. They were seated behind her on Real Housewives of Miami. Martina was talking about a time she wore, like, tennis shoes in the Royal Box at Wimbledon. She was sitting behind Kate Middleton and Meghan Markle in the Royal Box. They like, put up a photo like.

[B]

Oh, like that one time they went to the Wimbledon.

[A]

Martinez right behind them, as she should be. Like, she's a Wimbledon champion, but it's like, let's.

[B]

She won Wimbledon?

[A]

Yeah. She's like the greatest tennis player. Female. One of the greatest of all time.

[B]

I've been watching a lot of tennis and actually Martina's name comes up a lot when the commentators are just talking about, like, women's tennis history. It's insane how, like, legit she is.

[A]

No, no, she actually, like, if I had to think of like five women's famous women tennis players.

[B]

Oh, my God. And Julia's there too. This is so. By the way, all roads lead to Bravo. It's really crazy.

[A]

Yeah. I thought that was a crazy picture.

[B]

It's the craziest picture I've ever seen.

[A]

I didn't realize Julia was there. That's even crazier.

[B]

So they went twice to Wimbledon. It's the one where Kate is wearing the green dress.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

This is insane. I. This is the craziest piece of information you could have dropped in my lap.

[A]

I watched more Real Housewives of Miami last night. They're in Seville. The girls are fighting. And by the way, I have something to say. So I know. I was like, waiting to see how I felt about Larson. Lisa, I love them both. Those my girls. I've made my decision.

[B]

I think you're gonna be team Larson.

[A]

I'm team Larsa.

[B]

Yeah. The vibe that I was getting from the first, like five episodes that we watched is like, Lisa's crazy. She's like, she's gone off the deep end. She's in this nutty relationship. Like, I don't think, like, I could trust her judgment. Larsa is like. You can say what you want about Larsa, but she's always herself.

[A]

Yeah. No, and like, Lisa's just like, very much like, in her own way, it's just a cacovony of like, chaos and it's all about her. And like, she doesn't like, give back to her friends because, like, she has so much going on and it's just like a annoying. Yeah. And Larsa, even on Kardashians when she was Fighting with that other friend of theirs.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. By the way.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That girls trip.

[A]

That girl trip. Even though, like Sarah won out because she's still friends with the girls and Lars is not.

[B]

She's just friends with Courtney. But yeah, she's still in the mix.

[A]

But like, Larsa just is a rational person. She's like a good thinker, She's a good fighter. She's not like off the deep end.

[B]

Crazy.

[A]

And I just, I like people like that. Like just a stable, good head on her shoulders.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I'm team Larsa. I've made it my decision.

[B]

Okay. I could have guessed.

[A]

Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? A little more TV casting news because SNL introduced five new cast members in the wake of their season 51 exodus. So big.

[B]

We didn't talk about it. Right. Like, so many people were fired.

[A]

They're fired.

[B]

So they let them announce, like, in a way that's ambiguous, but some people made it clear, like, yeah, like I got called into the office or I was on vacation and like, I found out.

[A]

Okay, so who's going to.

[B]

Oh, people. I know their faces. I don't know their names.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Long. Michael Longfellow.

[A]

Longfellow Deep.

[B]

Yeah, that's, that's why, that's why.

[A]

I'm sure I'll do it.

[B]

Oh, Heidi Gardner's leaving. That was like a big one.

[A]

Yeah, I see. Michael Longfellow.

[B]

Michael Longfellow. Devin Walker. So you know their faces but you don't know their names, which is probably why they were let go. Like, if you haven't made an impact, you get. I feel like year one is always hard. Year two, you can break out.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

If you're not really making waves by year three, like, it is your time to go. And there are multiple ways to make waves, by the way. Some people get cast to do skits and they end up, you know, writing a lot. Like, there are different ways, but I don't think the show will be negatively impacted by the loss of these people. Except Heidi. Heidi was a big one.

[A]

Yeah, she was. And so there's five new comedians who are joining. One of them is from that sketch comedy, Please Don't Touch. You know, they.

[B]

Please don't destroy.

[A]

They were making videos for us and now they're not making them anymore. And then I guess one of them got a gig.

[B]

Oh, really?

[A]

Yeah. Those are boys.

[B]

As like a full time cast member.

[A]

Yeah. Cole Haynes.

[B]

Please don't touch.

[A]

Jeremy Culhane.

[B]

I believe he's also a Nepal Nepo baby.

[A]

No, sorry. Marshall. I don't know.

[B]

They all look okay. So the Nepo baby got lost. Yeah. SNL adds five new cast members and loses an apple baby. So Ben Marshall, who's one of the three members of Please Don't Destroy, he was promoted to a feature player along with a bunch of other comedians. But John Higgins, who is the Nepo baby, his dad is the.

[A]

Ben Higgins.

[B]

Yes. From the Bachelor. No, his dad is the guy on Jimmy Fallon who wears the glasses, who's like the mc.

[A]

Got it. Oh, wow.

[B]

Yeah. Steve Higgins is his name. He's leaving the show. And then the third member, Martin, will stay on as a writer. But the group is effectively breaking up and will not produce their signature behind the scenes sketches for SNL anymore.

[A]

It's a shame because those sketches were good. They were one of the better parts of the show.

[B]

Agreed.

[A]

So I feel like they should have done more of it. Bring them all on. But agreed.

[B]

And I think when people criticize SNL for not being like, really relevant anymore and not engaging in like, Internet culture, they say besides for Please Don't Destroy and Bowen Yang, like, those are like the two things that like SNL got right. And with this new wave, everyone's very excited about the girl Veronica, because she's like, big Internet, she has like a big like, following. So that's. They're getting a lot of credit for like finally leaning in, like casting people. Because, yes, you know, comedy is old school and traditional, but like, comedy largely exists on the Internet now and that's how so many people get discovered. And I'm honestly like, I didn't know this Veronica girl, but everybody seems really excited.

[A]

Yeah. And so I'm excited for the SNL viewers.

[B]

Yes. That is not us. But they exist, I hear.

[A]

So I hope you are, you know, catered, making your target demo happy with this love. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? A little legal news because Cardi B was found not liable in a 24 million dollar assault lawsuit. So an LA jury has cleared Cardi B of assault accusations from a security guard that originally sued her for $24 million over the alleged attacked. I'm sure everyone saw the photos and videos and outfits and she's been making lots of news, being really funny, being really funny and being very honest on the stand. After the verdict was announced, Cardi spoke to the press outside of the courthouse and said it's been really tough to deal with the case in the middle of her album rollout, adding that she missed her daughter, her kids, first day of school on Tuesday. She said, quote, the next person to try to do a frivolous lawsuit against me, I'm going to countersue and I'm going to make you pay because this is not okay. She added, people have this misinterpretation of celebrities, like, oh, well, we can ask for this, and they're going to settle. Don't you ever think that you're going to sue me and I'm just going to settle and just give you my money? It's not gonna happen. I love.

[B]

She's right, by the way. A lot. Like, we're a notoriously litigious nation, and when it comes, like, wealthy people, companies, celebrities, people just, like, file frivolous lawsuits because it's cheaper for them to settle. Give you 50 grand, then spend all this money on lawsuits.

[A]

And I'd like to show up to a trial and testify. Absolutely.

[B]

Not everybody. It's like Gwyneth.

[A]

Yeah. I think she should countersue. This person, though, like, no, don't wait till the next one. Do it now.

[B]

Agreed. I love this.

[A]

I think it's a great precedent. I think she should do. I don't think she should wait another minute. Meaning more of this.

[B]

Agreed. Everybody's so afraid, like, I'll just settle. No, no.

[A]

But it's also like, she had. She had to take time out of her day, go to the courthouse, test guys. It's very, like, a serious business miss first day of school. So it's like, okay, maybe you settle also for. At a convenience.

[B]

It makes your life easier. No, I love that.

[A]

Like, counter sue.

[B]

Yeah. And if you sue someone, you lose.

[A]

You have to pay their legal bills. That's what. That's what I've learned. Like, that's what I was taught.

[B]

It's true.

[A]

So this person's paying Cardi's legal bills.

[B]

I guess it might be, like, state by state. It's not like a federal law.

[A]

I think that's one of our better laws.

[B]

Ah, I totally agree.

[A]

Yeah. Like, the founding fathers ate with that.

[B]

They slayed. Like, who thought of that?

[A]

Because it's true.

[B]

Like, because then you could just. I guess it stops people from really being frivolous. If I could just go around suing whoever I want, and there's like a 50, 50 chance someone on a jury is going to agree with me. Like, yeah, I'll be filing left, right, and center.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So it is. It stops people from being, like, insanely frivolous. Although people like crazy, they still.

[A]

They still take that risk. But it's just. It's not a zero. Risk game.

[B]

Yeah. So shout out to John Hancock.

[A]

Supreme Court.

[B]

Yeah, you did.

[A]

You put your whole secrecy into that.

[B]

Yes, you did.

[A]

Are you ready for our next story?

[B]

Are you ready, kids? What time is it? I mean, what time is it? I'm cracking up. What story is it?

[A]

Number four. I feel like you're ready and then you.

[B]

I'm ready. I'm ready.

[A]

Kim Kardashian is sparking a debate like that.

[B]

I'll be ready and then I won't be ready.

[A]

Inside baseball, right?

[B]

If you know, you know.

[A]

Kim Kardashian.

[B]

Kim Kardashian's doing what now?

[A]

She's sparking a debate over her controversial parenting take. So this story is multi pronged because Kim did a live stream with kai Sanat on Mafia Thon 3 over the weekend, I guess, which you're obviously, like.

[B]

A huge fan of.

[A]

I actually know Kai because of prime and the Paul Bugs, of course, because.

[B]

I watched the Paul A Paul America.

[A]

I know Kai. Do you know Kai?

[B]

I do.

[A]

I don't know mafia thon3, but I think she did, like, a mini stream. She's trying to reach the twitchers and she shared a thought about parenting that's sparking some debate. I'm curious to get your thoughts.

[B]

Okay. But before we get into it. That's so funny. I did not think that she was trying to get into streamers. I feel like she did this because she's a good mom. Because Saint is obviously, like, obsessed with these streamers and he, like, loves Roblox and I'm sure he, like, wanted to be on the stream, but she was never gonna let him go by herself because, like, seriously, seeing her there, she, like, threw a table. Like, it was humiliating. Like, it's something you would only do for your child who you love. Like, literally, Liz woods posted like, oh, Kim did mafia 3000 or whatever. And I literally responded to Liz. I'm like, she's a good mom. Like, seriously, this is her being a good. Because image wise, like, she looked so stupid.

[A]

Like, that's really sweet. I do think, yes. And that because her kids are so into it, she sees, like, how big it is. I don't know how streaming is. I would never. If someone said, hey, do you want to come on mafia thon3? I would say, no. I don't know what that is and I don't know what it could do for me, but I think that, like, she sees the opportunity too. And, like, this is where the kids are. This is where. This is the future. I'm gonna go.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Step into the future.

[B]

I'm gonna debase myself.

[A]

Anyways, she said on the stream.

[B]

What did she say on the stream?

[A]

She said, you guys aren't gonna believe it.

[B]

I think I saw this clip, but I'm like, forgetting what she said.

[A]

She doesn't believe in homework. She said, I'm gonna tell you.

[B]

That's so crazy.

[A]

She said, I'm gonna tell you why. She said, kids are in school for eight hours a day. When they come home, they need to also they do sports, have a life, spend time with their family. I think that homework should be left for in school. She said, okay.

[B]

I actually agree with Kim. Like, when I think about the fact Jackie and I, we went to a dual curriculum high school. So, like, we were in School from 8 to 4:45. That's literally the entire day. And then to go home and be expected to do, like, any extracurriculars that doesn't include, like 4:45 is just the end of the class. Like, classes that doesn't include if you wanted to play a sport, play an instrument, like pick up a hobby, then, I don't know, eat, spend time with your family, sleep, watch maybe 30 seconds of television, and then do homework. Like, I've always felt like it was so stupid, but also like, how, but also, like, like I hated school. And like, I didn't, I didn't pay attention ever. So, like, I also need to learn, you know?

[A]

Right. And I wonder how valuable because practically to me it does sound valuable to, like, learn things in school and then go home and see if you can do them on your own. And if you can't, then going back the next day and figuring it out, like, it does seem like a useful practice in order for the practical application of school policy.

[B]

A policy.

[A]

So I, I, I think that, like, in terms of learning and you know what? Like, as a nation, like, we're kind of slipping.

[B]

Yeah. We're not crushing it. Like, maybe let's switch it up.

[A]

No, I actually think, I don't think more homework. I think I'm against too much homework. And I also don't have strong opinions about this yet because I'm not there yet.

[B]

Yeah, right.

[A]

I don't like, really see. And I don't remember what it was like to like, be in third grade and if that really was enriching for me to come home and do my homework. But I don't know if this is the time to loosen the reins on the children's education.

[B]

Oh, that's funny.

[A]

Children are slipping. No.

[B]

Okay, so I feel like the opposite. The children are slipping. So, like, what we're doing isn't working. And I think like, maybe if the children were like, better balanced, like they had time to run around outside, get fresh air, get off of their phones, like, maybe they wouldn't feel like they want to kill themselves at school. Like, yeah, I just did this last night and now back in the morning I have to do it again. Like, it's low key crazy.

[A]

Why aren't kids reading? Why don't they know how to read like they used to know?

[B]

Okay, so like, I can speak to somebody who like, literally hated, despised the read.

[A]

The age for learning knowing how to read has increased pushback over the years. Yes.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

Like 100 years ago, kids were reading earlier than they are now. Like, I, I don't know, I don't have opinions. Why is it?

[B]

But why? I don't know.

[A]

Something's wrong in the curriculum.

[B]

So let's switch it up. Let's just try something new. I actually agree with Kim. Like, I would rather my kids be like, or try something old, more well balanced, Doing lots of sports, playing instruments, hanging out with their friends, being social and going to school as opposed to just like school all the time. Like, sorry, some of the smartest kids I knew in school are like low key failures now. It means nothing. Sorry.

[A]

Yeah, I'm not anti all homework, but I definitely think there should be balance and there are a lot of ways to learn and it's not just through a workbook.

[B]

Yeah, agreed. And I like the classes and the teachers who were like really nuts about homework and then you always had ones that were more relaxed. Because I think like, as teachers, like, they all have different philosophies as to like, how effective homework is. And maybe it's just because they gave me less work, but I remember those classes and what I learned in the less homework ones more fondly. And I feel like maybe what they taught me stuck more because they like respected my time.

[A]

Yeah. And I also feel like there's like fun homework, work, you know, like practicing your letters. Love, love that. I guess learning cursive. They don't learn that anymore, by the way. They don't know.

[B]

I, I am okay with that. I want to say.

[A]

I just feel like it's a sign of the times.

[B]

My only concern is that when the kids aren't learning cursive anymore and one of the kids who hasn't learned cursive becomes famous and somebody asks for an autograph, they're just writing their name in Print, like, yeah, because that's the only application of cursive in my current life. And when I sign a bill, I.

[A]

Think cursive is nice.

[B]

Or a contract, you know, because I'm constantly signing mega million dollar contracts with my seven attorneys.

[A]

Classic.

[B]

Turtle classic.

[A]

Are you ready for our fifth and final story? I don't think you're ready.

[B]

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Oh, but I do love my Home Chef. You know, I've been. You do a home chef chef for. For years. I lived in the city for maybe like seven or eight years.

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[A]

Yes. And it's also helped me learn new dishes that I like. So many things that I make or like, I think that I order that I like, like stuffed peppers. I learned how to make through Home Chef, like shout out.

[B]

And you probably wouldn't have ever tried it like before.

[A]

No. And it or realized how easy it was. And then like you get these recipe cards and you can just save them and I put them in my recipe binder and then I myself. Yeah, like little hack.

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[A]

Our fifth and final story is a little lured this news.

[B]

Learn this. Yes.

[A]

First of all, Roger Goodell is making headlines talking about a Taylor Swift super bowl halftime show. Potential. The potential for the show.

[B]

So, yeah, and shout out to, was it Savannah or Jed for being really, like, invested? Like, she was not letting him get away with his, like, bullshit answer. She kept asking follow up questions. That was good investigative journalism.

[A]

Yeah. So he wouldn't say much, but he certainly did not rule out the possibility of Taylor performing at the halftime show this year. So he said, we would always love to have Taylor play. She's a special, special talent and obviously she would be welcome at any time. Savannah said, is it in the works? He said, I can't tell you anything. She said, is it a maybe? He said, it's a maybe.

[B]

I feel like he pretty much confirmed it. Just giving, like, body language. I'm no ble, obviously body language expert, but I just got the vibe that he was, like telling us. And I feel like Taylor is, like, pissed that he was not more subtle.

[A]

Yeah, I feel like he should have been more subtle. But also a maybe is a maybe. Also, if she's not playing, this is a good cover. I think he did okay. And I think that he will endear himself to the Taylor fans by the way that he spoke about her. Like, everyone says nice things, but I don't know the way that, like when he said special, special talent, like, that came from the heart. Sorry. I know people don't like him, but I thought that was really heartfelt.

[B]

Do you think he's a swiftie?

[A]

Yeah. Or like he just, I don't know, to the music, but like, he just really respects her. I was getting it was giving respect. Anyone else?

[B]

Maybe they're courting her. So he wanted to be, like, really genuine.

[A]

No, but everyone says nice things about her. What? You know, what crazy person who's in charge of a business is gonna make an enemy of the Swifties? I just felt like the way that he spoke about her was with a lot of care and love. That's all I'm saying.

[B]

Oh, so you think he's in love with her?

[A]

I think he really admires her. I do.

[B]

I mean, I love that. I feel like at this point it's so crazy that Taylor has not performed the halftime show.

[A]

And then he said, and he said.

[B]

He'S waiting on the hype.

[A]

He said he's waiting on Jay Z. He said, it's in his hands. I'm waiting for the smoke. To come out.

[B]

So I just want to say they have a good relationship, Taylor, Beyonce, and Jay Z. So it's not like there's beef. Like, I can't imagine why she wouldn't. It's weird that she hasn't, but I feel like people always, like, are like, is Taylor gonna do. Is Taylor gonna do it? It's more this year than ever because of obviously, like, her engagement Easter eggs.

[A]

Easter eggs.

[B]

But I feel bad if it's not her for whoever it is, because it's gonna be, like, a major disappointment. Although for the last few years, Miley's name has been thrown around quite a bit, and I think she would. Would be spectacular. I would not be upset if it was her. And I do think her time is coming.

[A]

I would love that. I also think it's good that Roger kicks it to Jay Z, because now if it's not Taylor, we can all blame Jay Z.

[B]

And. And I love when we have someone to blame.

[A]

Yeah. And I feel like it feels good. He. He won't care if we blame him. It'll be like, we'll feel righteous in our anger 1000%. But I hope at the end of the day that she is performing and that this is. Of course, usually they announce soonish.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, are you okay?

[A]

I'm fine.

[B]

She says as she keels over.

[A]

I'm fine.

[B]

Well, I'll dive into Dear Toasters, while you come to yourself with that.

[A]

I'm fine. Anyways, also say, let's make a bet. Is Taylor performing Super Bowl?

[B]

The evidence is extremely compelling, but every time I get myself, like, invested in a Taylor theory, like, the evidence is always compelling because she's a crazy person.

[A]

And.

[B]

And I get, like, clowned on, but I do, I do, I do. Especially because, like, I think they have this plan for, like, him to win the super bowl and retire. And if, like, she's doing her bit, like, I think that they're both extremely ambitious people. Like, I do, I do, I do.

[A]

I do, I do, I do, I do, I do. Okay, that's our bet. That's our take.

[B]

Let's dive into Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment that is immensely popular. So every Tuesday, this week, Wednesday, Jackie and I take submissions from the swirlies who are in need. You guys can write to us about anything in the world. Marriage stuff, baby stuff, work stuff, whatever it is. We're gonna do our absolute best to help you. You can submit by either emailing us dear toasters gmail.com or head on over to our website the toastpodcast.com scroll down. There's a little submission box. All submissions are entirely anonymous. We will never blow up your spot. Let's dive in. Dear toasters, I am 30 and my first friend in our friend group is pregnant. My friend group has always been super close since college. We've historically gone out, lived it up in our 20s, but we've all really, for the most part, calmed down. We still get together every other week and my mom to be friend is always drinking with us. We thought it was weird at first, but she said her doctor says it's fine as long as she doesn't get drunk. The other girls and I have seen and started suggesting non drinking activities, but she's still drinking every month with us. It's also like, is she doing that at home? She's six months pregnant and I'm at the point where I feel like I need to say something, but I'm not a mom or a doctor. What would you do? Please help. Love you so much. I just want to say I too am not a doctor, but I'm 100% sure the doctor will never tell you you can drink, but as long as you don't get drunk, it doesn't count. Like, that's not a thing that doctors tell pregnant women. Just saying.

[A]

Yeah, but what is their official policy on having a drink? Because, you know, people say you can have a drink during pregnancy in the third trimester. That's what they said she's doing, by the way. She's not having a drink. She's having.

[B]

No, she's getting drunk. But also they say that in the third trimester she's only six months old.

[A]

And like, with what frequency do they say at the doctors?

[B]

I believe you can have a glass of wine a week.

[A]

I'm actually going to the doctor today. Should I ask.

[B]

Do you ask Dr. Fox if I drink but I don't get drunk?

[A]

So you should ask Dr. Fox, like, what's the. Send it to Dr. Fox.

[B]

You have. You can also just ask chat gbt. They say the third trimester you can have a glass of wine. You certainly cannot drink like vodka or tequila.

[A]

What does he say? What she's drinking?

[B]

No, she's getting drunk and no, she's not doing what they. What Emily Oster says you could do.

[A]

Right. And regardless, she's drinking more than you know. Oh, go have a glass of wine here or there if you need to relax one night. She's not good for the baby.

[B]

And by the way, Jackie, the girl is now six months pregnant. And for the last couple of months, she's been doing this so, like, really bad.

[A]

It's really uncomfortable.

[B]

I think your course of action here is to call the girl's mom or call the girl's husband. Like, nothing. This girl's. Your friend's an alcoholic. Hi. Like, if you can't stop drinking when you're pregnant, you're an alcoholic. And so anything you say to her, she's gonna, like, you know, rebut or come up with a lie. But, like, you've seen firsthand that she's damaging not only herself, but the. The life of her baby. And that involves people, not her as well. Right. It involves the father. It involves her potential grandparents. So, yeah, call her mom.

[A]

Okay. I like that. I really don't have advice because it's.

[B]

I don't think confronting her is going to do anything.

[A]

No, she knows what she's doing.

[B]

Right.

[A]

It's such a conundrum. It's. That's really, like, sad and unfortunate, but maybe someone can restrain her from drinking for the next few months.

[B]

Like, seriously lock her up. That's insane.

[A]

Yeah, it's.

[B]

Fetal alcohol syndrome is extremely real.

[A]

And, yeah, I. I can't imagine how I feel in this situation, but, like, I feel like I wouldn't want to invite this person to these events. 1. It's a buzz kill to have this tragic situation.

[B]

You can't help but also feel, like, responsible. No, no. But not even.

[A]

Because, like, oh, we don't want her to drink. She could stay home and drink, but, like, I don't want to be around someone who's doing something so terrible. That's not a fun night with the girls for me.

[B]

No, not at all. Call her mom.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Call the father.

[A]

Yeah, that's a good place to start. And. And stop inviting her, like.

[B]

Well, yes, I think.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay. This. This next one, like, genuinely made me chuckle. Ready? Hey, Jackson. Claire. I need some serious help. I just found out that my boyfriend got fired from his job over a month ago, and he's been keeping it a secret. The worst part is that he's been commuting to the city during work hours and sitting at a McDonald's near his old office in order to keep up his lie. And he's just been, like, applying for jobs. We've been together for a year, and he has a habit of lying. Do I give him a break or. Or do I cause hell over this lie?

[A]

Yeah, that's bad.

[B]

Yeah. The thing is, like, I maybe could get past him not sharing that he got fired because like, it's embarrassing. But you sharing that he has a habit of lying. Like, it's always. It's not the crime, it's a cover up. Like, the fact that you're comfortable. Like, living a true double life. Like you could. This is the type of guy who has a second family.

[A]

Right. Of course, eventually, like, you could do this with anything. But also, it's like, if you lost your job, it's not a big deal. Like, you can find another one, but the fact that you're wasting your entire Day at McDonald's applying for jobs. Like, apply for jobs at home and do the dishes. Like, you're an unemployed now. Make yourself useful. Running out of the house every day.

[B]

Like, if you're applying for jobs, like, I'm assuming, like, you work in corporate because you're traveling to the city for whatever. Like, get a job as a waiter. Like, we have a house to support. Like, you just, like, floundering, doing nothing.

[A]

Agreed.

[B]

You can't apply all day to jobs. Like, there are only so many job listings.

[A]

It would be better if he, like, didn't tell you. Got fired. He started working from home and it turns out he's been applying, but, like, he's home and said he's running away every day when. Like, there are things you could be doing in the house, ways that you could be helping me.

[B]

Yeah, the. The dramatics of going into the city, commuting and faking, like, with your location. Like, this guy, this is like a sneaky person, you know?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, capable of great sneakiness.

[A]

Yeah. It's a major red flag for me.

[B]

I'm in agreement. And the fact that you already know that he's like, a liar. People who just, like, are really comfortable lying and then you just find out that they're a liar and you stop believing everything that they say. Like, those people are really crazy.

[A]

And like, a year. That's the time to call it.

[B]

I'm actually in agreement. I hate to press the breakup with your boyfriend button, but, like, I'm inclined to. You're not engaged, you're not married, you're not pregnant. Like, get out.

[A]

And you didn't even give us the usual, like, he's a peach. I'm otherwise the greatest man.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Break up with your boyfriend.

[B]

He's gay and unemployed.

[A]

And unemployed.

[B]

Our third and final Dear Toasters. Hey, swirlies. I'm in a friend group made up of four married couples. We all have kids. Two of the couples have decided to engage in a polyamorous relationship with each other. Husband A is Dating wife B. Husband A is dating husband. Wife A is dating husband B. You get it? I do not approve of this arrangement. But we have a group trip coming up with all four couples and our kids. What should we do? We've already spent $2,000, but I'm afraid if we don't go, it'll end the friendship. I'm also questioning if I want to continue this friendship long term after the trip and how to handle it. If you think I should leave the friendship, please give tips on how to phase out.

[A]

I think you're looking at this all wrong.

[B]

Like, oh, wow, okay.

[A]

This is so entertaining. Like, how hysterical. Like, and, you know, you go on a trip, you want there to be some drama. Could there be anything more interesting than this? Like, and you like these people. You don't want to stop being friends with them. Like, you don't have to get all this is key.

[B]

It's also kind of how the secret lives of Mormon wives began. And it's very possible that this becomes a huge drama. They get a reality show, everyone gets famous, and then you're like, the. Who backed out before things got exciting. So if you want to be famous, I would stick around.

[A]

It's like, if you like them and you have fun with them and they don't do this stuff, like, in front of kids or it's just like during the adult time. Like, how interesting. I would grab a vat of popcorn and sit down and watch it. I'll play the next morning. Who was with who. Like, oh my gosh. Entertainment.

[B]

Yeah. We can't tell you whether or not to end the friendship. Like, if this is really something you're not comfortable with. Like, sure.

[A]

She said she doesn't want, like, she said she doesn't want to not go on the trip because that would might end the friendship. She doesn't want to end the friendship. She's worried about this trip. But, like, I'm sorry, I want to watch things play out on this trip.

[B]

Maybe you're worried about what might happen.

[A]

If you might have an upside down pineapple in your shopping cartoon.

[B]

Correct. And the next thing you know, you're on like a swingers cruise.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, I. I guess if you're worried that, like, it could be a slippery slope for you. Like, I would understand just, just being like, I want to. Of course here for me. But otherwise, like, this sounds like your own personal soap opera. Like, I'm obsessed.

[B]

The crazy thing is, like, I didn't know things like this, like, actually happen. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, it's stuff you, like, hear about for movies or books, but, like, no one's actually doing that.

[A]

Yeah, no, but just like, how many toasters out there are swingers? Are or are friends with swingers or finding themselves in this predicament?

[B]

And the upside down pineapple, I feel like it was like a subliminal secret message, but now, like, everybody knows about it. Like, you would be ashamed to put an upside down pineapple because then your secrets out.

[A]

Yeah, right. Maybe they're supposed to be to something different.

[B]

We don't know 1,000%. If we go to, like, Reddit.com swingers, you can find out what, like, the new upside down pineapple is. Yeah, I don't like, a card, a cartilage piercing or something, you know?

[A]

No, we're like, you know, two cantaloupes on different sides of the cart.

[B]

Two cantaloupes by your breasts, you know, like.

[A]

Or a watermelon underneath the cart.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like I missed some. Something that's in, like, every grocery store. Like a box of Ritz crackers.

[A]

No, but I feel like it has. It should be produces.

[B]

It has to be fruit. Yeah. Like an eggplant. An eggplant sticking out of the bottom of your.

[A]

I think a watermelon on the. I'm giving them great ideas.

[B]

I am, like, too nervous to ever swing. Like, if I walked into my local grocery store, the kosher grocer, with an upside down pineapple, and nobody, like, took a bite, I would be crushed. Like, me and Ben, like, we walk around, we're looking our best. We get all dressed up to go to the grocery store. Okay. We flip our pineapple, and no one gives us the time of day. Like, seriously, I'm devastated.

[A]

No, but also, like, say you do it and you flip your pineapple and some. There's outreach. What does the outreach look like? Like, does someone come up to you? Do they give you a phone number? Do they follow you to your car?

[B]

So the new thing. Well, we don't. We live in the city. So, like, no one's like, being followed to their cars. The new thing where you can, like, tap someone's phone, shares, contact.

[A]

The pineapple thing is a very suburban thing. Thousand. Because in the city, like, oh, you want to swing. Just, like, go down the street.

[B]

It's so true. Like, just open your front door. I would love to know, like, if there's anyone in my life who swings. Like, I'm sure that there is. People just, like, do that. Whatever goes on in people's like private lives, like pop off.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, it's very interesting. Anyways, I think this is so exciting.

[B]

For the whole family.

[A]

Enjoy, enjoy, enjoy.

[B]

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[A]

Time for lunch. So much pressure.

[B]

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[A]

Love ya. Bye.