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Good morning girlies. It's the toast.
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It's Jackson Claude and we're your host.
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It's your favorite show.
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The Fast 5 things you need to know.
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We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast.
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I sound amazing.
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Welcome back to the toasted happy hump day. Hey Bruno, how you doing?
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Bruno is doing good. The brutalist Bruno has just really been showing up to work, putting in the effort ever since he saw rodeo was getting top billing. He said, yeah, don't forget I am the number one guy in this group.
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Don't forget I would say everything once first.
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I what'd you say?
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Yeah, no, I that up what you said. It's a tick tock. I was his everything once first.
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I understand.
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I was once his every like what.
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Is a TikTok sound everything once first.
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First was I was once. And don't you forget I was whatever. It's from a movie. I think it's Julia Roberts. Classic.
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Classic. Well, Bruno is my everything ones first. And I'm so excited that he's here to celebrate hump day and to celebrate the mama merch drop day as I am Bruno's mama. And we are so excited because our mama collection and our toasty bed. That collection dropped. It's already sold out. But it is available for pre order@shoptoastmerch.com the mamas came through strong this morning.
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And the thing is mamas are capable because we didn't have the usual issue where everybody heads to shop chanel.com you know that happens a lot when we do merch launches. People see and they're like immediate thought is to go to like hermes.com or shop chanel.com and it's so confusing because our website's actually shoptoastmerch.com and, and I know how confusing that can be. But moms are, you know, built tough. They're. They're different. So they didn't, we didn't have that issue. Right. They've been through a lot. Like we didn't have that issue this morning which was actually really nice.
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Yeah. They're able to keep like simple facts to keep their facts straight, you know. Cause they've got juggling a lot at once.
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Yeah. Like you know, how many ounces, how many diapers, lots of bath. Like toastburgs.com. it kind of just rolls off the tongue.
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Yeah. So shout out to the mamas. Hope everyone gets what they want and you can pre order.
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You know what I want, Jordan? Yes, I get what I want. And this winter Break. I want Jordan. I would literally only have Megan Fox on the podcast just to make her do that. Like, I think she would be some people's dream guest.
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That's why she wouldn't. Come on. She's not the elk of that.
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No. She wants to talk about, like, you know, whatever it is that she's doing. I want to talk about Holiday in the Sun. I get what I want, and this is what I write. I want Jordan. It's funny how we don't think of Megan Fox sucks as, like, a child actress, even though, like, Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen. Holiday in the Sun. She was probably, like, 16.
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Actress.
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Yeah. But I don't even think of her like that. I just think of her as, like, a famous woman.
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Yeah, but not child, because, like, she definitely came to us in her teens.
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She was. She still is. But a very talented young woman.
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Yeah, she is very talented because she was such a.
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In both movies, like, she was really typecast as, like, the bully. She never played, like, a nerd. And I couldn't help but wonder, like, was she like that in real life, or she's just that good of an actress?
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Well, I think she can't be put in a box. If you were to ask her.
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If you were to ask her, I.
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Don'T think that she would answer that question. I don't think she would like it.
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Well, that's why she's not coming out of contest.
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Like, any of our questions.
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You. You will love it.
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You. You will hate it.
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Literally. So funny. I was, like, sweeping yesterday. I've been, like, sweeping really crazy, and people are like, oh, she's nesting. Nesting.
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No, when you take the nest and throw it out the window, like, I no nesting.
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Like, implies that you used to not be this way.
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Like, I've always been like, turbo sweeper mode. That is the nesting.
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I guess I'm only in turbo sweeper mode because I have a deadline, right? Like, once the baby comes, like, I'm not gonna be able to be sweeping all the time. So I gotta get all my sweeping done for the next couple of months. It's a little.
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It's the elk of nesting. It's your version of nesting. I do think it's my version of.
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Nesting, but people like, how sweet. She's nesting. You should see me, like, seriously throwing everything away. I did the kitchen yesterday, which I've already done, actually. This is the second round sweep. Nesting. When I first found out I was pregnant, I was like, ben, let's sweep the kitchen. And we did. And now it's like, back to normal. So I made, like, a little. I actually made it really nice. Like, you guys. I should, like, really start one of those, like, organizational pages. Like, I really could do it.
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You should.
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I made different cabinets for, like, different people. Like, Ben has a cabinet. Romeo now has a cabinet.
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Rodeo.
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He has half a cabinet. Like, he has. He. Well, first of all, you know, he's a brand ambassador. Romeo. He's kind of the face of a brand called Wagwell, which is like a pet wellness company. And so he has a lot of his supplements from them.
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He's his father.
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He is, like, a businessman. So he needed, like, a specific. But he doesn't get a whole cabinet. He is a dog. So he got half a cabinet, and then my dry goods got the other half. I feel weird about, like, keeping dog things with human things, but, like, in New York City, you just can't be so particular.
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I understand.
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And he was really, like, loving. He thought, mom, this is nice. And I forget. I buy so many nice things for him.
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And then because is it a cabinet that's, like, Romeo height so he could go what he wants?
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It's on the floor. And then I got him, like, a pargy wicker basket to put all of his. You know, it's allergy season, so he has his allergy and itch supplements.
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It requires a lot.
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Romeo's an extremely well dog. You know, I don't know what, like, whatever the opposite is. Like, that's what Theo was like. We seriously, like, we were just like, you want some food? Here you go. No, Romeo has, like, a regiment. He has a cabinet now. Ben has a cabinet. And I'm working on clearing out one whole cabinet. So by the time I God willing. God willing. God willing. Get back from the hospital. I have an empty cabinet in the kitchen for the Bebe now. It's a cabinet that I need to empty full of Ben's crap. We have a meat grinder.
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That's cool.
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We have never once ground our own meat.
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Does it attach to your kitchenaid?
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It does, but it's huge.
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That's cool.
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Okay, so. But, like, I feel as though we're past the. The cool I've got my eye on.
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Instead of throwing it away, you should make him grind some meat.
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I've also got my eye on his ninja Creamy. It's gotta go. It's huge. We don't make our own ice cream. And I'm sorry. I think it's time for. For goodwill. Somebody, somebody another family to start making their own ice cream.
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Yeah. I don't have one of those.
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We did it once, and it was so fun.
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Yeah. I do feel like you're not a real influencer until you have a Ninja Creamy.
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Agreed. And I am okay with that because I'm a podcaster.
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Like, Romeo's gonna use his Ninja Creamy and his Wagwell vitamins, and he's gonna make a little. That's actually a nice idea for Rodeo. Maybe for his birthday.
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Protein smoothie. Maybe for his birthday. Oh, his birthday is coming up. What's his birthday? It's December. We have time.
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What are you going to get him a Ninja Creamy?
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We already have one. No, I'm just. I keep waiting for Ben. One of Ben's running jokes about my sweeping. He actually hates that. Like, I. He'll need something, and it was thrown away six months ago. Right. So I'm trying to be better with that, but, like, with each day that passes, I've just started, like, throwing things out and he doesn't notice.
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Yeah. Just like, the meat grinder sounds sad to me because it's just, like. It just shows someone who's, like, wanting to eat healthier and, like, better his life, and then you just, like, take away his tools.
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But why do you need meat grinder? Like, we have the most amazing kosher.
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Grocer that has, like, prepackaged hunting his own meat. You know what meat would you need to be?
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Ground chicken. Beef. We could buy it.
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Right. But, like, when you grind it, it's fresher. But I'm sure the kosher grocer is so fresh. I'm sure, like, the chicken breast versus the ground chicken at the kosher grocer is equal freshness. Like, if you were hunting and killing your own.
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Sure.
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Dinner. And then you get a cut of meat and that, but you want meatballs. Then you put it through the grinder.
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Luke Combs can have a meat grinder at his house. Okay. In his palace. Me in my apartment with my husband, who literally has never shot a gun in his life. Like, we don't need it.
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Chip and Joe grind their own meat sometimes.
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And I feel like if I was in the process of the meat being ground, I would not be able to eat it.
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Yeah, we kind of ruined it. Kingsman, Golden Circle. Yikes. The last scene with the meat grinder in the diner.
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I don't remember you.
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Then you obviously saw it.
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I have seen it, but obviously had an impact on you.
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You know, Pejor Pascal in the diner at the end in the jungle, Julianne Moore put yourself there.
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Like, none of this sounds familiar.
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That's. The whole movie takes place in this diner. Remember Elton John?
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Elton John, yeah.
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Like, what's her name? Poppy. Julianne Moore. Peter Pascal. Maybe I need to say Stanley Tucci, Stunt double.
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Yes. Family Fucci is the actor's name.
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His name is Mark.
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Is it? It's family.
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It's family.
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Yeah, we've been very busy. Yeah, we've been busy cleaning out.
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I understand.
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I love cleaning like this. This is a bonus of pregnancy. I feel like I talk a lot about the thorns, not about the roses. And one of the roses is like, it's become totally acceptable for me to be, like, my Sweeper self. And I love. I love just the urge I get to just, like, throw things out.
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We both watched the Valley last night, and did you see the highlight on acupuncture?
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I did see that highlight of acupuncture. I felt extremely seen.
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Everyone's doing acupuncture.
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I.
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And I had no idea that Nia and Danny struggled with infertility for a year and a half and that fertility acupuncture got her pregnant.
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Okay. I have heard fertility acupuncture is, like, really amazing. And I do have a lot of thoughts on the Valley and I will save them. But. But I am. I was kind of shook at something I found out on last night's episode.
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Let me think. What did you find?
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And maybe it's.
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Give me a clue.
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Maybe it's because I have a lack of context, but, like, someone I thought I knew turned out to be something entirely different.
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Janet.
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No. Oh, Danny.
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Because he gets drunk and grabs ass.
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Yeah, we all.
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We all, like, we watch us.
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Did you know that? No. Okay. Okay, so we'll talk about in the recap. But, like, that was enormously disappointing.
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That was, like, an insane thing to casually say, like, oh, that.
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And it wasn't even made a storyline. That. That. That conversation with Jasmine was like a flashback.
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I think it will become a storyline. I think that's going to be the thing that Nia gets upset about Janet for bringing up because, like, acts like. And I think for the most part, like, her life is very, you know, idyllic, and she likes to keep it that way. And, like, no, you know, she doesn't want anyone to, like, know if there's ever any trouble. Like, last season, Danny got drunk at one of the dinners, and he was just, like, being annoying and crazy, and.
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She was a bad drunk.
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She was d. He didn't even do anything wrong. She was literally humiliated.
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Yikes.
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Yeah.
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So we'll save that for the Valley recap. But, like, that was disappointing.
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No, that was so out of left field. None of us saw that coming. It's not just you.
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Okay, good. And what else do you want to chit chat about on this party Wednesday morning? It is so gorgeous out in New York City. I can't believe I'm sitting inside. Like, it's so party.
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It's sunny podcast outside. That's like, in school when you would, like, have class in the park and that was, like, the best day.
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Yes. Except, like, because we went to school in the city, it, like, wasn't as much of a thing as it is, I think in other schools.
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No, you have class outside. Even in college, sometimes you'd have class outside.
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No, I'm talking about, like, high school in the city.
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We didn't do it as much.
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We didn't. Because, like, if you're on, like, a high school campus, like, yeah, sure, let's go sit out and by the tree. But we'd have to, like, get field trip permission slips. Like, it wasn't a thing. That's like, kind of a something not enough people talk about. Kind of a downside of going to school in a major city. Yeah, that's no school outside.
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Well, I hope you guys are having class outside today. To our. What are. Maybe what's after Gen Z. Gen Z? Alpha.
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Alpha.
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But, like, Alpha's like Charlie.
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Yeah, like babies.
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Charlie didn't have glass outside.
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I do think maybe one day this week.
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Don't you feel like Gen Z is getting a little old?
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I don't really think much about Gen Z. I think there was a time period where I was, like, really obsessed with getting them to be, like, into me and think I'm cool and skinny and pretty. And now, like, I don't know if it's. The culture has moved on from being obsessed with Gen Z or. I just personally have. It definitely had the Osama of it all. Like, definitely helped. Like, not only am I not interested. Not only am I not interested in what they think of me, us and our show. Like, I actually don't want them here unless they're sound of mind individuals.
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Yeah, I agree. But I just feel like they're getting old and irrelevant just like the rest of us.
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Yeah. Like, welcome. Nobody cares about you. We were all, you know, everything. Oh, my God.
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Remember when everybody wanted to get the millennial, the millennial consumer, the millennial vote?
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Yeah. We were all special like you. And how you act at the top is really interesting because we're gonna see you on the Way down.
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Like, yeah, I feel like Gen Z is, like, with us, it's like a discarded generation now. Like, yeah, he's targeting to them or they are, but like, it's. They're moving. They're moving away from their time has, Is.
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Has come.
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And the way they behaved at the top.
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That's what I'm saying. It was not a good look, but.
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I do feel like that's the circle of life. I feel like every generation when they're in their prime, like, that behaves awful. Like millennials. Was there a lazier, more entitled bunch?
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No, I don't identify with those characteristics.
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No.
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No.
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Well, you can't put me in a box, so I'm gonna talk.
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You actually can't put me in a generation. I am transgenerational.
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You. I'm not talking about me and I'm not talking about you.
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And we're not talking about anybody who listens to this show either.
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I am timeless.
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You're timeless to me.
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Like, in any time, in any generation, like, I would be the same person. I'm not affected.
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Oh, that's interesting. That's how I feel about my looks. Like I am a timeless beauty. Like, I think that if you were you to drop me in any century, I could, like, adapt. I'd wear the clothes, I'd fit in, and I would be considered like a beautiful woman in any generation. That is how I feel.
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I agree. But I do think there are some generations for me that I would have been more beautiful in.
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Of course, no, you would have, like, been higher up on the list. But you, you wouldn't be considered, you.
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Know, an ugly duckling. Where there are people now who are, like, good looking for our time, but they would have never cut it in the Renaissance.
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No. But also, they very much look like from our time.
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Well, I would say it's a matter of, like, have you had work done? Because you wouldn't have access pre plastic surgery.
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Right. And so I feel comfortable knowing, like, yes, I have Botox and things, but I have maintained a face that could thrive in any millennia. Yeah, that's something I'm really proud of.
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Yeah. But I think people who have had a lot of work done, they wouldn't be looking like this in the Renaissance.
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No, no. And if they did, they would have.
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Looked like old maiden looks.
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People would point at them and be like, that's an alien. Like, if you showed up with your big ass lips and like a bbl.
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Yeah, that's an alien.
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They would point at you on the reservoir during, like, the daily walks and being like, who's that?
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I would love to get a time machine just to send someone with a BBL back.
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Back to, like, the Gilded Age.
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Yeah. Well, actually, they all look like they had a bbl with those petticoats.
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Yeah, Right. And the corsets. That was the look back.
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That was actually. The more things change, the more.
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The more they stay the same. So true.
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You would have hidden that thing.
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Well.
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Do you ever think about getting a bbl?
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No. Have you ever seen, like, the BBL recovery videos where, like, you sit literally in a colostomy bag that, like, collects blood? It's. It's probably one of the most severe recoveries. You have to, like, lay on your stomach for days at a time. You're in this, like, girdle that has, like, bags attached to collect, like, fluids. It's. It's absolutely brutal. And I think more often than not, you look like clowns. Like, even a really good bbl, it's like, we're not buying it. You have this huge ass, tiny waist, and tiny thighs. Like, where is gravity in all of this?
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No, I can't get into the mind of someone that wants a bbl.
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No. I think a good example of, like, a BBL that like. Like James Charles. No, no, like James Charles. Right. This is obviously, there's, like, a. Like. Yes.
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Okay.
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It's not.
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He hasn't confirmed it, but it's like.
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He showed up with a big, fat ass. Yeah. Like, where did you get this big, fat ass? We. We couldn't help but wonder. And he has. He has a seemingly normal body. Otherwise, like, there's nothing that would indicate this person has, like, big hips and a big ass. He has a very normal waist, very normal thighs, and just, like, this big ass. And it doesn't make sense. Like, we know how bodies work, and so I think that even a really good bbl, and I'm sure he went to the best of the best. I think even a good one looks bad.
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What's so funny is he's obviously, like, not obsessed with it because there are no pictures of him from behind on his Instagram.
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Well, so there was a period where he had, like, obviously just gotten the BBL and was, like, really into showing it off.
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Okay.
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And the Internet, I don't know if he thought that, like, people weren't gonna notice. Oh, wait.
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He literally posted on May 7th a picture of him, like, in a bikini. And he doesn't turn around, but he said, drizzy ain't got nothing on this bbl.
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Right. It was so obvious that he had gotten one that the Internet, like, clowned on him and he leaned in.
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Oh, okay.
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And so I don't even think that one looks good. Yeah, there are some surgeries. Like, even, like, if you don't get a good one, like, it's still better, you know, Like, I think, like, fake boobs. Like, even I hate my boobs so much. Like, even if I got like a bad boob job, like, oh, they're standing up on their own. I'm good.
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I don't agree entirely with that, but I understand what you're. The point that you're making, like, some.
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Like, lips is very sensitive. Like, you have to have them done well or else they look very bad. That's how I feel. I think a bbl, even the best BBL looks bad. A bad boob job. Like, all right.
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No, like, even the best. Like, unless there's someone who's had a bbl and we actually don't know because it doesn't look like a BBL.
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Like, BBLs aren't meant to be, like subtle surgeries.
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No, no, no. But let me ask. I won't go into evaluating women's bodies. We could do that offline.
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I mean, I'm open.
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I'll text you. Let me know if it's a fair question.
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Are you asking me, like, if I think this person had a bbl?
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Yeah. Or some version of it. And okay.
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Larsa. She totally had to be crazy. Yeah. Okay. Okay.
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Are you crazy?
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And like, hers is not, like, in my opinion, like a super well done one.
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I texted you a name.
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Oh, no, I don't think. Let me actually look up a picture.
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Something. You don't think there might just be fat injections?
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Yeah, some people do that too. I think that's like a subtle way.
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She definitely start out.
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No, she. She hasn't.
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Okay.
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Yeah. It's just. Don't know that for a fact, but.
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I just feel like it's not the original ass.
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Maybe not. Yeah, maybe not.
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Fat injections.
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A fat injection. Yeah.
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I just don't want fat injected anywhere. Like, seriously, Take it away, boys.
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What's the opposite of injection? Dejection?
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Liposuction.
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Yeah, Like I need fat dejected from my face, not injected.
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That's why I can't relate. Make something bigger. No thanks.
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Seriously. I guess lips, I guess I wouldn't make them smaller. Right, Right.
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But everything else make it smaller.
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Yeah. My philosophy on plastic surgery for my body personally is to make everything smaller. Tits, ass, face, belly, ears, neck. Like everything yeah, but that's my philosophy.
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Yeah, I agree.
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Well, I'm ready to dive in if you are. I have some harsh words for the for the Desperate Housewives reboot that everyone's talking about.
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So also say Claudia is not getting a BBL anytime soon.
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Not today.
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But if she does, you'll know we'll be sitting on our BBL pillows. So now, without further ado, dah du dah do it is time for the Fast 5 stories that you do need to know.
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And the best five stories you need to know are brought to you by Huggies Little Snugglers. So Huggies is the only leading brand with all around blowout protection for sizes one and two. Now Jackie, as the resident diaper changer, can you let some of the swirlies who might not be familiar know what a BL is and why Huggies having the blowout protection for sizes 1 and 2 is such a big deal.
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So a blowout is when the number two does not stay within the confines of the diaper. So.
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So it's like a number two without borders.
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Basically, yes. We're talking up the back, down the leg, down the front. It can be very disruptive to baby, to mama. We're gonna need a change of diaper, a change of clothes. We're going to need a wipe down. And if we could find a way to keep the number two within the confines of the diaper, that would more seamless diaper changing process for the whole family.
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Less laundry, less trouble. And Huggies is the only leading brand with all around blowout protection for sizes 1 and 2. So all parents out there know that there's really nothing worse than a blowout. It can be so disruptive to the flow of the day. We're having such a nice day until the blowout and you shouldn't have to live your life worrying about how you will deal with the next inevitable blowout. Ease the blowout anxiety by switching to Huggies Little Snugglers. Huggies Little Snugglers are up to 100% leak proof with blowout protection in the front and back on sizes 1 and 2. So you can feel confident relying on them for your little ones. Huggies Little Snugglers now with blowout protection in every direction. Sizes one and two. Huggies, we got you baby. Today's episode is also brought to you by Roback. You know, Jackie and I do not gatekeep when we find things that we love. And right now we have been loving and living in Roback. Their stuff is super cute. It's comfortable, it's unbelievably soft. And yes, they just dropped something new and we are of course obsessed as well. The ERA High Rise shorts. These just launched. They're really good shorts. They're high rise, they're lightweight, they're super flattering. They've basically replaced every other pair of shorts that we own. If you like to walk, you know, run errands or like actually run, or if you're just looking for a pair of shorts to exist in, they're really that versatile. So if you live a super active lifestyle or you just like to wear workout clothes in the hopes that you might work out but like you might not, ERA High Rise shorts is for you. Also, they just dropped their new color called Birdie Blue in the Sydney Squirt and the everyday active dress, it's super cute. So if you like tan legs, Birdie Blue, it's a match made in heaven. The Skort is one of our favorites. It's super flattering, very sporty with built in shorts and pockets. The waistband is double knit so it sucks you in and it doesn't budge. And of course their everyday active dress, which is one of our favorites that we've talked about for months. If you haven't tried it, you're truly missing out. It's the perfect I worked out but still a cotton casual vibe. We've thrown it on for a workout but also like to go to lunch. Use our Code Toast. We've had a code at Roback for a while. It's one of the best places to shop for activewear. Athleisure Love their like loungewear too. They have great crew necks and hoodies for men. Also, don't sleep on the men's stuff. Our Code Toast is@roback.com for 20% off your first order. Code t o a s t@roback.com that's r h o b a c k.com code toast for 20% off your first order through the end of this week. Today's episode is also brought to you by stamps. Com. Flexibility in your workday means that you can decide when and where to invest your time, like focusing on the important parts of the business that only you can do. With stamps.com, tedious tasks like sending certified mail, invoices, checks or documents and packages can be done on your time, not someone else's. So stamps.com simplifies your postage needs and adds valuable flexibility back into your workday. So if you're looking for someone to handle all your mailing and shipping needs wherever you are, which is one of the most frustrating parts about running a business. No matter what type of business you run, stamps.com is for you. They are seamlessly connecting with every major marketplace and shopping cart. If you sell your products online, then you know how difficult it can be to get your shipping needs in order. And you'll also get access to USPS and UPS shipping services. Everything you need to run your business right from your computer or your phone, anytime, day or night. There are no lines, there's no traffic, there's no waiting because it's all done online, right from the comfort of your home or your office. So take care of mailing and shipping wherever you are. With their mobile app, all you need is a computer and a printer. They'll even send you a free scale. You can easily schedule package pickups through the stamps.com dashboard. Automatically see your cheapest and fastest shipping options from different carriers. So there's no more tedious postage math. They're going to help you with the rate Rate advisor calculate the best shipping rates and then you're also going to get rates you don't see anywhere else. Like up to 88% off USPS and UPS. So have more flexibility in your life with stamps.com. sign up at stamps.com use our code toast for a special offer that includes a four week trial plus free postage and a free digital scale. There are no long term commitments or contracts required. Just go to stamps.com use our code toast that's S T-A-M-P-S.com code T-O-A-S-T.
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Thank you.
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T U R T. You're welcome.
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Our first story, Little Sydney Sweeney news. She was spotting get it close to her co star Brendan Sklenar. I don't know why I think his name is Brendan when it's Brandon.
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No, it's Brendan Slidar.
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On the page six they have Brandon.
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You might think that because I say it all the time or because that's his name.
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No, but also because like something about Glenar lends itself to Brendan.
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Phonetically. I completely. Because there's an extra D. It's Brandon.
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Let's go Brandon.
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Brandon Sklenar. Brandon changes things.
B
He's just a Brandon. He's not a Brendan. He's such a Brendan.
A
Yeah. I don't know. I just have to like change my whole outlook on life.
B
Let's go Brendan.
A
Brendan.
B
It's because of the Sklinar.
A
Yeah. No, like if visually or oratorially and phonetically SL has The same exact vibe as Brendan.
B
No, it's true. If it was, it would be Brandon Sklonar.
A
Exactly. No, I'll try to call him Brandon Sklenar, but that absolutely no promises.
B
Two different words in two different languages.
A
Languages, yeah.
B
Brandon Sklnar and Sydney Sweeney were spotted together at Stagecoach. Getting close. Yes. But also, it's a. It's a tight crowd, so everyone's close. So we're not going to say that they were canoodling, but they were next to each other at Stagecoach.
A
Actually, the video I saw, he was, like, directly behind her, which I thought was even more intimate than, like, being next to someone at a concert. Do you know what I mean?
B
I know, but, like, I feel like it's not fair to assume. Assume Just because crowds are crowded.
A
Crowds are crowded. These two are obviously friends that work on a project together. Maybe they just, like, happen to get along or both, like, really love country music. Sure, sure.
B
Yeah. So it's like, let's take a day off, go see a country concert. But I'm sorry. Like, she's 27, he's 34. She's beautiful, he's handsome. She's single, we think, even though she was just spotted with the restaurant tour a couple days ago. And the dog. I hope they're not doing dog.
A
Did you see the picture of her, like, holding up her ring finger? No, she's single.
B
She's single, but she was with Jonathan Divino the other day.
A
Maybe they have, like, a life to.
B
Separate, having the dog issue. Well, and someone commented yesterday, a lot of people are, like, weighing in, and they said that they did the, like, co parenting with the dog, and it was a mess. But Judge Judy says that you should never get a dog in a relationship. It has to clearly be someone's. So even if we're in a relationship and we're getting a dog, like, we have to know whose it is.
A
Yeah, but that's, like, really tough to, like, breach the conversation. Like, we're in a loving relationship. I'm getting a dog. Like, I don't trust you. I don't trust that this relationship is going full term. But I'd like a dog.
B
Yeah, but I do, like, seriously, how do you. I do feel like whenever a couple is getting a dog, there is someone who is pushing who wants it.
A
Yes. Sometimes it's like a true, genuine, like, we're making a family. Like, people who act like they're having a kid, but then sometimes, yeah, it's like one of the people in the relationship wants a dog and they're like foisting it on the other person. It's situational. I trust Judge Judy implicitly.
B
I thought that was a good policy because this is a mess. The more I thought about it, like, the more my brain is jumbled. I don't know what the right thing is.
A
It's an impossible situation.
B
It is, it is. So obviously Sydney Sweeney has found herself in a situation like that and she's still tethered to Jonathan Divino vis a vis the dog. And she wants to be with Glenarrets.
A
They might like, they might co own a house too. Like, like they were getting married. So like, and they were together for quite some time. So I, I don't think it's so crazy that they saw each other. I don't think it's them getting back together, like by any means. Especially like once you go sklinar, you.
B
Can'T go to vino.
A
Sounds like a injury attorney at like and Powell. Right. I love this coupling if, if that's what it is. I. They also like, there was a tick tock I saw. So they also like spent the weekend together. They like were on this party bus. Like, I, I don't want to jump to conclusions and I don't want to get excited because I have loved Brendan Slidar like long before all these other did. Like, I, I actually discovered him a thousand percent and everyone's now watching like the first season of 1923. But like I watched it like a million years ago for some reason and.
B
I saw something in 1923, literally I.
A
Saw something in him that nobody else did. He was just like some random guy. But to me he wasn't. Like to me he was so much more than that. And I. Yeah, right. He was my everything once first. And I like, I feel very close and attached to him and now he's getting like super famous. Like he did the movie with Megan Fahey and Sydney Sweeney.
B
Sort of like let him go, Blake Lively.
A
And so everybody thinks that they know Brendan Slynnard and they don't know him the way that I. Now granted, I did just learn his name, but I feel attached to him and I actually really approve of this. And this is what I've wanted for Sydney Sweeney. Right. This is what her career has been missing as like this bombshell who popped on the scene. Everybody loves her. She's in a million movies. She's been missing that relationship to, to sort of go along and have your star rise. So I think this is fabulous.
B
Yeah. Even though I think she raises his.
A
Star more yes, but he's not a nobody, and he's really up and coming nobody.
B
Like, it's a. It's really a sweet, cute relationship. But I also think, like, they're filming the movie together. They went to Skatech. I imagine these are the early days of what could be. And they're still figuring it out too, so the added pressure doesn't help. But I'm sure they're having fun and I don't feel sorry for them. And the pressure.
A
No, they're going to be completely fine. I also really like to see, like, so many celebs, almost equal amounts now, like, making news, doing things at Stagecoach versus Coachella. It used to be first week of Coachella. Like, everyone was there, paparazzi, la, la. And then second week, like, nobody went. And then nobody cared about Stagecoach. But now, like, I saw a million videos. I saw, like, Mila and Ashton at Stagecoach. I saw so many, all of a.
B
Sudden, celebrities, country, right?
A
That's Del Rey effect.
B
Where are they when, like, country is just getting shot on the rest of the year? They're nowhere.
A
Also, I don't think it has a lot to do with country. I think countries definitely more up and coming. But, like, that's what we were saying on Monday with our Stagecoach recap. It's like the Lana Del Rey effect. A lot of them went for Lana.
B
Interesting. But, like, okay, you just go for Lana and then you leave.
A
Or, like, you're going for Lana. Like, let's spend the weekend.
B
Yeah, but, like, how are you going to spend multiple hours, like, listening to a genre music? Like, like, I couldn't do it, but.
A
Yes, but if you find it. Because I saw, like, Mila and Ashton were at the Goo Goo Dolls. So, like, you can.
B
You can make it, like, mainstream.
A
Yeah, like, curate your day. You can. Like, the same way at any festival, you would curate your day.
B
I could not curate my day at a. At certain festivals.
A
Same, same. I'm also not like, a festival go where I feel like, celebrities love festivals. Like, I find festivals. Like, I only literally only have been to Stagecoach and Coachella, and I've had amazing times at both of them. But I don't like this. I don't, like, look forward to them. They're like. They're journeys for me.
B
You know, we've been to Gov Balloon.
A
Yeah, but, like, that was short. That was in our hometown. We went for one concert and left. Like, that doesn't count. Yeah, we weren't, like, there all day festivaling.
B
I feel like we were.
A
I don't think so it's.
B
I feel like we were. But that was another time. It was the 80s.
A
It was the 80s.
B
It was literally the 80s when we went to gumball.
A
Just want to say this is not a confirmation of a relationship, but I'm really hoping that it is, like, for everyone.
B
Good, strong path.
A
Yep. Just don't ever. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Let's just, like, let them do their thing.
B
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Our next story. Unfortunately, we have to talk about the interview that Meghan Markle did. Yes, we do podcast. Like, I'm sorry, but we do know.
A
This is exactly the type of mega news I want to talk about because it's. It's decently substantial. And when we've talked about her podcast up until this far, we have learned nothing about Megan, her personal life, her as a mom, her as a wife, her as a friend. And so now she's going on someone else's podcast to promote her own podcast. It's her friend Jamie, who also is, like, the first female at L'Oreal. She's the CEO of IT Cosmetics. I didn't know any of this before. She has her own podcast and they did a pod swap. Because she's on Meghan's podcast this week.
B
Yes.
A
But her conversation with Megan on her own podcast is much more interesting. It is because it's more personal.
B
The clips are going so viral of Meghan having various conversations with Jamie Kern Lima on the Jamie Kern Lima show.
A
Jko.
B
So she's talking about motherhood. She's talking about her marriage. She's talking about her work ethic.
A
She's her, like, val. Her self worth.
B
Her self worth. You know, how she feels now versus how she felt then. There are so many, like, takeaway headlines from she cries the interview. Oh, what did she cry about?
A
She was talking about. Was it. I think it was, like, related to her self worth and how. Like that for so many years, like, she's just always felt like she had to prove herself to prove it at the prove it game. I had so many thoughts on this interview.
B
Like, first of all, here's some quotes. Like, when she talks about Harry, she talks about Harry. She talks about their marriage. And also, like, they're not getting divorced. She said, like, we'll be married forever. And so everyone who, like, thought they're getting divorced, like, they're not. Because, like, you. I know. No, run it back. I don't think. I don't think they're getting divorced. I don't think they can get.
A
You were believing the rumors For a while.
B
No, I like even if they hate each other, they're not getting.
A
They can't.
B
They can't.
A
But that's not what she was saying. She was saying we love each other so much we'll never even think about it.
B
No. And like she says like she thinks about the game Super Mario and like what's the.
A
The end Gringe when she said this, like this was seriously butt clenching, like cringe worthy.
B
The end goal of the game. What happens? Like the. You slay and you save the princess and like that's literally what age did for her.
A
H. Yeah, the thing is that's like.
B
Megan explains why she calls him H and he calls her M and someone was like.
A
And I imagine it has something to do with his name being Harry and her name being Megan.
B
I think.
A
So my takeaway. I had so many big thoughts from this Big feelings. The big feelings. The thing is is that this is not new. This actually is I think who Megan is. Right.
B
So yes.
A
Because I have a distinct memory and I remember when it happened like people for people for a while ate up everything she said. And I remember being like a hater in the corner being like that's really cringe. Remember when she said like her and Harry don't watch TV and like their nighttime routine is doing a little duolingo before bed, learning a new language and. And people were like, oh. And I just remember being like, are you fudgeing serious? I get a tv. You live in America. Like. And so she has been like this always. Now people just hate her and they like they're taking clips and they're like clowning on her. I just want to say she's nothing if not consistent. This is how she has always been. And now people like being. Having their eyes opened being like, who talks like this? Some of us have been having this thoughts for a while. I just want to say now nothing she said was like harmful or bad. She's just really, really cringy. And I don't know if she sees herself. Like it lacked a little like a self awareness.
B
Yeah. And it does make you question like is she really like this all the time? And I agree. She's been like this in public since you've known her in public for sure. How can someone be like this at.
A
All times and like get things done?
B
I.
A
You know, and she's busy. She's like a business owner podcast like.
B
How busy she is. And she listed a lot of tasks that she does like for. For various businesses and she's busy.
A
She's busy. I also had a lot of thoughts on the host. Like, I found her annoying, and the.
B
Host was just enamored with her.
A
Yeah. And she just couldn't believe the opportunity.
B
Podcast to go on.
A
She was just like, yeah, like, every time Megan talked.
B
But they're like best friends. I was getting the vibe that they're best friends.
A
I was getting the vibe, too. But I feel like Megan, what everyone, she's, like, bringing into her orbit on the show. On the podcast, I think she wants us to think, like, is her close, personal friend.
B
I got the. But I got the vibe that they are best friends because she's like, remember when I told you this? Remember when this happened? Remember that?
A
So when Mindy Kaling went on, I was like, oh, they're friends. And then, like, Mindy Kaling went on the View and was, like, talking, and it was just, like, giving, like, a sense of distance. Like, she was so excited to be on it and honored to be. And she loves Megan. And they've seen each other a couple of times, but they're not, like, chit chatting.
B
Yeah. Also, something about the Mindy Kaling episode that happened in the episode that, like, kind of bugged me then and bugs me every day now. When I make a peanut butter sandwich, like, when they talk about making the lunches or whatever, and Mindy's like, no, I do it. I use organic peanut butter. She's like, all that oil, what do you do with it? And Megan kind of just, like, brushed by the comment. Like, no, she really spoke to a truth. Like, all that oil on the top of organic peanut butter. You don't have it with Skippy.
A
You're supposed to mix it.
B
You're supposed to mix it. But, like, I didn't know why Meghan didn't, like, respond to that. I really wish she had, like, spoken about.
A
Okay, so that's what's been bothering me.
B
It's like a real issue every day. The oil on the top.
A
Well, that's Mindy being, like, so relatable.
B
So relatable. I've seen. I think I saw something where someone was like, if you store it upside down, then the oil will go to the other top, and then you flip it over. So I'm trying that.
A
I. I decided I saw a device. It's like a wire. It's like a coil almost. And you put it in the peanut butter and you just, like, sort of churn it and it mixes the whole thing together.
B
I'll send it to you. You know what I should do? I Should put it in that butter churner Olivia got me.
A
Yes.
B
Butter.
A
No.
B
But I just thought that was, like, Mindy killing was really trying to, like, enter, like, the crunchy convo and such a real thing that she said she was brutally rebuffed. It's true.
A
So the thing is, with Megan, at this point, she's not winning anyone new over. Right. There are people who just love her, and there are people who recently, like, have decided that they fudgeing, hate. And I almost. I, like, I don't know. I don't know what the. If I'm trying to, like, give her advice. Like, I. I don't know how to advise her, because when she opens her mouth, she's, like, seriously indefensibly insufferable.
B
Yeah. I would say, like, make yourself more scarce, but that's.
A
It's, like, it's her turn now.
B
It's her.
A
Yeah.
B
That's what. Nowhere to be seen for the last six years.
A
That's what I've been thinking. I was actually thinking about that last night, and that was another thought I had when I saw this podcast ever. I'm like, man, she's everywhere. Like, the jam, the show, the podcast, now this. And, like, where the. Is her annoying ass, ugly husband? And it's like, well, he was up our asses for two whole years with his three books. So it's like they take turns being, like, public. Like, taking public spankings just to pay their bills.
B
Yeah. But I just feel like there's a lot of talking happening. People are like, talk, no action. Yeah. People aren't loving, like, what they're saying. Everything's being dissected and. And some things justifiably and some things not. But, like, I feel people are being.
A
Harsh, but she is not making it easy.
B
Criticisms that I genuinely don't agree with. And then I see some that I'm like, yeah, that's spot on. And I just feel like they need to find a way to make money where they don't have to talk so much.
A
Yeah. But so much of what's interesting about them is their personal lives. Harry specifically.
B
We got the story.
A
It's not interesting, but, Jackie, they don't have other things. That's what I'm saying. They're their point of interest.
B
Like, you can sell jam without talking.
A
Not enough to pay and live in Montecito.
B
And the flower sprinkles.
A
Correct. Thank you. You made my point even further. I. They have to rely on their personal lives for content, whether it's a documentary, a book, a TV show. It's getting a little old. And they're not like deeply interesting or funny on camera. Maybe they are in their personal lives, but it's not translating. And it's a real issue for them because they're running out of places to do it.
B
Well, I'm ready for her to go back to acting. 1000 someone else's lines. She's a really good actress. She's very beautiful.
A
She is an excellent actress. I discovered that on suits. Like, she was really. And I don't think she's like her character. Like, I think it was a role. Like she really had to act differently. I, I do think going back to acting is a great call. There's a new suit.
B
I think that will be next. Like, I think she'll finish out this cycle of work. Then Harry will do something.
A
Harry taps in.
B
Harry taps in. I think he'll sink their ship even lower. And then I do think that she will act again.
A
I would, I, I would love that.
B
As she should. But then also then you have to remember, and I guess we could have this, you know, issue with anyone, any actor, actress who's doing like a lot of self promotion, promotion, just talking about themselves. Like, they could be acting. They are an actor.
A
Well, great act.
B
So, yeah, that was a fun, a fun journey. And shout out to the Jamie Kern Lima show. Jk Big get.
A
Big get.
B
Our next story, a little TV news. Desperate Housewives offshoot show Wisteria Lane is in the works at Onyx from Kerry Washington and Natalie Chia.
A
Does I feel that though, that this isn't so misleading? Because when I heard it, I was like, okay, they've said that all the women are down. And Eva Longoria has always said, like, it's, we'll do it. You have to get Mark Cherry to agree to do it. Like, and now I saw this headline, I'm like, oh, so I guess Mark Cherry's on board and maybe they're going to. And it's not one single person or production company or whatever from the original show is involved. So how. I don't know if this is like off brand Desperate Houses. I don't know how.
B
Yeah, I think it's, it's a reboot by another name. They know that that word is like, nobody's going for that at the moment. So it's sort of like a spin off reimagining. And now it's called Wisteria Lane and it's the same concept. I think it's better though. I was just like looking. Someone sent me Something. But I already knew this. Like, Marcia Cross's personal brand has destructive. Completely ruined the legacy of Desperate House. I was like, the way I was, like, someone sent me, like, one of her tweets. Like, she's like Mahmoud Khalil. The way she tweets.
A
She's, like, a radical, crazy person. I completely agree. And even beyond Marcia Cross's, like, craziness, I don't want a Desperate Housewives. And I'm the biggest fan of the show. I just watched it again for, like, the fifth time in my life. I watched it live. It is a show that raised me. It is perfect. It needs to not be touched. Let sleeping dogs lie. Their reboot is not going to be good. Even if everyone was involved. Stop it.
B
I actually think that if all the women came back and Mark Cherry, this is a show that actually could be, like, continue on because they're still housewives. They're older, but it's not like they were in high school and now they're, like, with kids. Like, they were 40 and now they're 60. Like, there's narrative.
A
Narratively, the show can go on. Except if you watch, like, towards the end, like, it wasn't good anymore. All the women did move off the lane. Yes. They could move back for sure. Like, not a big deal. But, like, it ran its course and it was good. And, like, why can't it just be good?
B
I'm just saying, of all, like, the reboots, to bring back, like, an original cast and do it again, like, this narratively would work.
A
Yes. Because you can always just live on a street.
B
I'm not interested in Marcia Cross being in it, and I'm also not interested in watching it without Bri.
A
So I also don't know if Felicity. If Felicity Huffman is, like, doing active roles. I think she's, like, over that life.
B
And of course, the Teri Hatcher drama, it's a mess. It's not happening.
A
No. The only one who's, like, clean, good to go is Eva Longoria. And she gets asked about it all the time, and she's like, yeah, sure.
B
And she's, like, the wealthiest woman in the world.
A
Now she's married to an actual billionaire.
B
Why?
A
Would you also forget at the end of the show, Vanessa Williams was a. Was a housewife. Renee Perry, she was, like, the last two, three seasons. She was an excellent addition, and I would love to have her back. I would. I would consider her. She's not one of the OG4, but if they brought it back, she should be there.
B
Agreed. So Then this new version is going to be like all new Wives. And I think it's possible that it could be good, but it has to be written by Mark Cherry. You need like an. It's not, but like you need an insanely good writer. That's what made Desperate Housewives so amazing. And they don't have that and they're not willing to do that.
A
It was a perfect show. Yes. Mark Cherry, all the writers, like, it was the best of the best, but it was also just sometimes you hit it right and it's a perfect casting, perfect everything. It's not gonna happen. And I'm so over this reboot. Like, stop desecrating the legacy of great shows.
B
Yeah. Also, Kerry Washington's involved on the production side. Unclear if she would be in the show. I do think that if she were in the show, like, that wouldn't be good.
A
I don't. I'm not familiar so much with her production work. You know, I think she does a little like, she similar to like how Reese Witherspoon does it on like the biggest and best scale. And a lot of actresses have their own production companies and like higher. I don't know. A lot of Kerry Washington's behind the scenes work.
B
Kerry Washington Productions, I feel no Little.
A
Fires everywhere was definitely hello Sunshine.
B
That was hello Sunshine. But maybe it was in collaboration and that show was really bad.
A
Yes, it was.
B
So that's like a demerit for, for all the people involved. Okay.
A
But Kerry Washington does come from like a very, very prestigious, successful, long running ABC show. Just like Desperate Housewives Scandal. She obviously wasn't like a. Right. She was just the actress. It was Shonda Chandeland production. But there is like the ABC overlap. I don't know. I just, I'm not interested.
B
So she has a production company called Simpson Street Productions and it's in like they have an overall deal with abc.
A
Got it.
B
So now I'm on their website and I'm not really seeing the.
A
Anything familiar.
B
I'm not seeing productions.
A
Let me see projects.
B
Their Instagram. No. It says they have like a season, but I think we'll get there. Okay.
A
I just want to say, like, I'm not gonna watch this. I'm not gonna support like, I love the show and even like decent reboots, whatever you want to call them, they never. No, they never do what they need to do at this point.
B
I'm no longer even going to be like happy for a second when I see the headline and then realize that it's bad. Like anytime I see the word reboot or I see my favorite show, I'm out. Like, I'm gonna be sad.
A
I completely agree. Let sleeping dogs lie. Leave Wisteria Lane alone.
B
So Simpson street has a new movie called Shadow Forest, only in theaters May 9th with Kerry Washington.
A
Okay. I haven't heard of it.
B
Street, you grew up on season four starts tomorrow.
A
Okay.
B
Shadow Force again.
A
So it's probably like a new venture for her.
B
Yeah. But yeah. Yeah. So this would be big.
A
Yeah. Unfortunately, it's gonna be like I. As the. I feel. I am the chairman of the Desperate Housewives fan club, and we are extremely, like, protective of the. Of the brand. And I'm saying no.
B
Same with Clueless. But, like, narratively, Clueless doesn't make sense to bring back. They weren't. Right.
A
It was about high school, about the.
B
Moment in time, that age that you are. Leave it.
A
Yeah.
B
So. And they just, like, honestly, they don't have the talent in Hollywood to do great things anymore. It's so true, Especially writing times, writing wise. Are you ready for our next story? Katy Perry is speaking out about being beaten and bruised and battered and bruised by the Internet. So she took to social media to write a comment that she's felt battered and bruised but has kept looking to the light. So if you're worried about Katy Perry, she is speaking out about all of the hate that she is receiving. And Katie is doing okay.
A
She seems like a very healed and therapied person that, I mean, nobody can really withstand like, such global, like, mockery, but she seems to be taking it as well as one could.
B
Yeah.
A
Based on this one comment, she responded.
B
To the online hate in a lengthy comment under a post from her fan page, Katy Perry Brazil. She said, I'm so grateful for you guys. We're in this beautiful and wild journey together. I can continue to remain true to myself, heart, open and honest, especially because of our bond. I love you guys and have grown up together with you and I'm so excited to see you all over the world this year. Please know I am okay. I have done a lot of work around knowing who I am, what is real, and what is important to me. She referenced some advice her therapist gave her saying, no one can make you believe something about yourself that you don't already believe about yourself. Which I actually thought is, like, it's good advice. It's pretty true. Like, if someone says something mean about you, like, it only really hurts if it's true. When it, like, rings true or it touches on something, you're insecure about. But someone says something like, so out of left field, it's like, yeah. Objection. Relevance. She said, when the online world tries to make me a human pinata, I take it with grace and send them love. Because I know so many people are hurting in so many ways. And the Internet is very much so a dumping ground for unhinged and unhealed.
A
So it seems like, you know, she. She's doing these shows, by the way. There. There are people there. Like, she has a lot of fans. So the fact that she's choosing to just lean into that, I think is a very healthy.
B
Yeah.
A
Mindset. And just like, this is not for the Internet. It's for the kitty cats. It's for our universe. I. I don't know how one deals with this, but she seems to be doing well.
B
She does. I actually was feeling like maybe she didn't even know what everyone was saying about her because she's, like, protected from that. Protected. And she's also, like, older. She doesn't need to, like, be in the comments all the time. It's not like she's an influencer. So I could imagine a world where, like, she doesn't even know that this is. Is happening outside of, like, you know, in terms of comments and stuff. So it makes me sad to know that, like, she's. She understands that she's the pinata of society right now, but that she seems, like, strong enough and. And also, like, she is a little, like, delusional and nutty. And I think it takes that type of person.
A
Yes.
B
To go through something like this.
A
100. Like, a healthy dose of delusion is really in a situation like this. Medical, medicinal.
B
It's. Yeah, it really is so.
A
Because it provides a layer of protection.
B
Yeah, I agree. And I think she's, like, happy and fulfilled in her personal life. Like, you really can't bring her down. She also has, like, so much money, more than, like, most of these online people will ever have in their entire lifetimes.
A
And she does have a very fulfilled.
B
Personal life, and that helps.
A
Like, that man, Orlando Bloom loves her. Like.
B
Like, she is a beautiful, happy family.
A
Yeah. She has more than most.
B
Yeah, I'm. I'm sure she focuses on that.
A
It's important, too.
B
Are you ready for our fifth and final story that will lead into our. Oh, my God.
A
That, like, so sprung up.
B
No.
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B
So sweet of you to say. I definitely see myself that way. But I wasn't sure if other people. I didn't realize that was happening.
A
And it feels so good to make a salad, right? You're like, oh, I am the beacon of health. Everybody's looking at me. But making a salad is so much work, especially if you like it really chopped with lots of ingredients. And then obviously salad in a bag is a great option. But I think we've been conditioned and over the years, we're like salad in a bag. It's brown, it's gross. No, Taylor Farms is out here, like, reinventing the salad in a bag. First of all, it was a category.
B
That needed reinvention too.
A
It's so true. They're, they're salad flavors. Like, they have really fun, like, different style salads. I'm boring. I like the Caesar.
B
You know me, I like the Caesar too. And I'm, I'm like, not even that boring, but it's like you could do so much with it or you could.
A
Dress it up, you could dress it down.
B
Dressings are so good. So you could just do the dressing. But I also love, but they also have like crunch.
A
The Mediterranean crunch, avocado, ranch, sweet kale. The family, your family will love them. If you want to make it for yourself for lunch, it's like so easy. If you want to, like, have a dinner party and not have to spend all day chopping a million ingredients, throw a Taylor Farms in there. You could also dress it up like, if you wanted to add protein, grill some chicken, be fancy, throw some turkey in there. But also if you just want to, like, literally throw it in your purse and eat it on the way to work, like, that works too.
B
Taylor Farms are more personal than comedy and more personal than food, yet everyone loves them.
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B
I didn't realize that was happening.
A
I. I didn't realize that was happening.
B
Our fifth and final story. Did you watch watch what happens live last night?
A
Oh, I didn't. Who was on?
B
Britney and Luke. Random Luke from Summer House. Luke, Kristen's husband.
A
Oh, hello. I like that. I thought of somebody who hasn't been on Bravo in three years.
B
Yeah.
A
Before I thought of Luke, Chris's husband.
B
Who was on Bravo. But honestly, someone must have canceled because it was a very strange to have him because he didn't like, he's just Luke. He is what you thought he would be. He gave like no tea. He was asked shady questions and. And he was like, I didn't know that was happening.
A
Like, I think that Britney also, like, could have and should have deserved a one on one.
B
Yeah. So maybe it was also good that they had someone there who wasn't talking that much because Britney had a lot to share with us.
A
Is this about the Stassi thing?
B
No, this is about Jax and her relation.
A
She was asked about Stassi. She was being like, now that you're not, like, with Jacks anymore, and, like, he was obviously the problem. Like, have you and Stassi reconciled? That I thought for sure the answer was going to be yes.
B
No. The person asked, like, has Stassi reach outs? And two, you've gotten divorced? And she was like, no, she hasn't reached out. But I see her around and it's like, we're good. There's always love and hugs, and that's fine.
A
And she also said, like, what we know. Like, obviously, it's all about, like, the wedding. Like, them not going to Bo and Sassy's wedding. There's so much more that people don't realize, and a lot of it has to do with Jax. So I am holding out hope. I would love these two to be, like, really good friends.
B
Yeah. I mean, it wouldn't do anything for me at this point. They're not on the same show, so.
A
It'S not like I'm like, no, just, like, vibes.
B
Yeah. Yeah. But it seems like they're, like, totally fine. Fine. Which is good because, like, Ocean's birthday party. Like, you don't want people fighting at Ocean's birthday party.
A
Correct.
B
But she was shading Jax's sex skills on Watch what Happens Live. Did you see this?
A
No. Yeah.
B
So she was asked a lot of questions about Jack. She was asked about his recovery, and she said, like, she kind of cast a little doubt on it. Like, she was like, he's still Jax.
A
Like, I hope he's so entitled to that.
B
Like, if that's. I'm sure she would be the first person to be like, he is changed. This is the man I've been waiting for. You know what I mean? Like, if he was. But she was like, he still has his Jack's personality. I hope he, like, continues on the path, but, like, it's still not great. And, like, she's not getting back together with him ever. So I wonder why she hasn't filed. That's a separate question. But she was asked to rate his sex skills by the shady dress. There's a new.
A
A new game in town, a new prop.
B
Kristen Doty last week gave the green dress, the green to Andy, and then they put it on a mannequin and they called it Shady revenge Dress. And so she was asking shady questions, and it was asked to rate Jax's bed skills. And so she said there were times when he was about a 7 or an 8, but you know, most of the time he was a two or three. No stamina, no nothing.
A
Well, you know, this is a person who we've now realized, like, is an addict. And when you have all these different substances coursing through your veins, honestly, usually affects your ability to hold an erection and such.
B
Yeah, but he's also, like, a sex addict.
A
Oh, yeah. Yeah. And I don't think sex addicts are, like, particularly good at sex. They're here for a good time, not a long time.
B
Yeah, that's true.
A
I love this. Like, I know she has been holding back, like, so much for so many years, and she still maintains, like, a level of respect because it is Cruz's dad.
B
I actually don't think that she maintains, but she doesn't.
A
She doesn't feel this, like, enormous responsibility to protect him as Cruz's dad, which I actually like, because I find that.
B
Annoying when people do it more entertaining. And also, I think she feels a bigger responsibility to do an amazing job at her job, to make more money to provide for her son than she feels to protect Jax. And I actually think that that's, like, a. A compromise that's, like, really fair, because they are pub. They're not like, any couple that just went on reality TV and, like, you want to protect the father of your child, like, it's Jack's Hill. Like, this is his livelihood. It's her livelihood, and playing coy about it will affect their bottom line, and it's all already out there. So I actually think that that's, like, fair for them.
A
It's in. It's in her best interest, too, because it helps ultimately provide.
B
And, like, she has sole custody of Cruz. Like, she is the breadwinner. She is taking care of them. She. I don't know if she's in the house, but she's, like, has to pay for two houses at this point. Like, we're making money. I'll say what needs to be said.
A
I feel like everybody moved on far too quickly from the fact that she had to move out of the house with Cruz. It is seriously diabolical. And she still pays for her half of the house.
B
That's so crazy.
A
Insane.
B
Yeah. So let's get into the Valley recap, and I'll share if there was anything else from Watch what happens Live that.
A
Janet's B Day party. I just hate Jesse. Like, I hate him so much. Even though it sounds like he has, like. Like, legit reason to believe that Michelle was unfaithful to him during their marriage. Like, I literally don't Give a. Like, I don't. I think he's evil. I hate him when he got caught for saying that thing in the group chat, which I need to talk about the loser. Yes. Group chat in a second. And his thing was, like, it's a joke. Like, oh, my God, you're such a loser, bro. Like, I literally hate you. Like, I hate everything about you being like, we were trying to see who the mole was. The mole. Nobody fucking cares about you. Like, I hate. And I'm not even, like, such a ride or die for Michelle. I just. You can't help but feel so bad for her. He is a psychological terrorist.
B
Yeah, he really is. But like you said last week, she really falls into every trap that he tries. Like, she's so not moved on from him or in a place where she could just be like, oh, that's stupid that he said that. Like, I'm gonna go be happy with my partner, who is so cute. He is so cute. And I also. I think there's a chance that she didn't cheat on Jesse. I think they, like, they probably maybe fell in love while Michelle was still married to Jesse, but didn't enter a relationship until after she separated from him. And, like, yeah, she likes his honey. And she said that they would, like, go on walks on Runyon Canyon. Yeah, she wanted to look cute for him, but I. I think it's possible that she didn't cheat on him with.
A
Physically, but emotionally maybe.
B
Emotionally, maybe. And, like, I literally don't care.
A
Like, I don't care.
B
Struggle with the two of them. I don't know them. I can't even imagine how they were ever married. It would be like if Jackson Britney came on a reality show right now after. And I would say, who the are. How did they ever even get together? What even happened between them? The idea that, like, Michelle left Jesse is so not what you would expect from the two of them because, like, he's the prick. Like, so what was going on in their marriage that, like. And she seems kind of, like, shy and meek a little bit. That, like, she left him. And then she also said that, like, he wasn't, like, giving her hugs and kisses or, like, any sort of love. Like, so I. It's hard for me. I am on her side because from what I see now, like, he just makes her life impossible and he doesn't even want to be with her, so just let her go.
A
He's like a real evil person.
B
But I just wish I knew them a little bit better to really understand, like, the issues between them. Because I feel like I have no context.
A
And I'm sorry. Kristen Doty is so wrong for, like, her team. Jesse. She's got to stop. Like, Like, I'm sorry, girl. That is not the vibe. Like, and when then Michelle, like, kind of lost me, and she's, like, running around the party being like, let's think of that.
B
No, like, that's your response to.
A
Right, to this heinous accusation. It's so lame. It's so childish. And, like, you know what? Even though, yes, we know production's paying for the house, but it is being positioned on the show as, like, Jesse's trip, Jesse's house, Jesse's rental. Like, you can't kick him out. Like, it was just a bad call.
B
Like, it was very losery.
A
And then it was like, very high school.
B
When Jasmine was like, I'm not voting for you. And she just, like, immediately broke down. Like, she's just so fragile. Like, it's hard to root for someone like that who's like. She's like, no, I'm going to kick him out of the house. And she gets, like, happy and strong, and then she doesn't get the votes that she needs. And she's crying again. She cries, be stronger than that or don't. Like, don't engage. That's the easiest thing you could do. Don't engage. You don't even have to be strong. You could just fake it, like, act like you don't care and then go home and cry when you get home. Yeah.
A
Now I was excited because we were getting more of my two favorites, which is Danny and Michelle. What? Danny and Nia? Yeah. And then I wish we didn't get it because I learned something that I didn't like, which is that he doesn't have a drinking problem, but he's like a very bad drunk. He doesn't drink a lot, and when he does, it's like Armageddon. And he was very inappropriate with two women. Like, oh, that I have to grapple with this now. Like, are you fucking kidding me? I was so upset.
B
Why would someone like that ever drink on tv, period? He didn't even do it on tv. The grab.
A
Right. With his TV people.
B
Jason said that was the worst thing he's ever. He always does stupid when he's drunk. That was the worst thing he's ever done, though.
A
Can we talk about Jason? Thank you for bringing it up. First of all, him having an Android like Janet, like, stopping him in the doorway, being like, you're a good man for doing that dropping jacks like I actually couldn't. Like, I wanted to die. No.
B
It's so crazy that this man Jason is on a reality show like tmj. This man Jason, in any other world, like, he'd just be his lawyer self with his Android, going about his business. But, like, we're watching this person on TV and like, he's not a tv.
A
So deeply uninteresting. Yeah. And when people say Jason, I'm like, wait, wait, who's Jason? Who's Jason? Who's Jason?
B
Of course.
A
I literally forget. I'm like, no, that's Jesse. Danny. Who the fuck is Jason?
B
Mr. Janet.
A
Mr. Janet. He was just like.
B
He just is. But he's actually. We don't get like normal boring people like him on tv.
A
Right.
B
For a reason. But it does sort of help, like, give like a normal, boring perspective and just like, I guess then can see like, relative to a normal boring person, like, how crazy these people are. Like, how do Jax and Jason know each other?
A
Get along?
B
How do they know each other?
A
And this group chat that they say is like 30 people, but like, they want it to be super private and there's a mole in there. Like, who do, who do these people think that they are?
B
And Brittany said on watch what happens live, like, every wife and girlfriend has the password to their husband.
A
Scroll through it.
B
They all know about this chat and they all read it. It is not like, under lock and key. There's no mole. It's open, right?
A
There's no mole. It's just like, common sense.
B
No, And I'm sure, like, things about Jack started getting leaking because maybe before that there was like nothing like, newsworthy happening.
A
No. Like Jax. Yeah. Is a leak worthy person. Like, people are going to like, send in things about him to like Bravo accounts or whatever. Like, Jesse, nobody cares. Yeah, like you and your mole.
B
Yeah, but like, is Danny stupid or wants to like, get the show on the rolling?
A
So that was the weird kind of incongruous part because it existed in the group chat, not on the show. And Danny brought it on the show and told Luke and was like, mad that he told Britney. But like you, you told Luke and now it's, it's out there. It doesn't matter what Luke does with it. It's on the show now.
B
But you thought Luke would not say anything and then what? At the reunion we'd all be like, hey, right time you said that. So again, I asked like, stupid or wanted to get the show rolling.
A
That's what I mean. It was like A bad episode for Danny. Like, I'm casting doubts on his pj. Ominous.
B
I know. I do think he's a piece p job, but he does.
A
I'm really worried that he's not. I'm really worried.
B
Like, but I don't know. I think that he will. But I wonder why Mia. Like, I know that she doesn't control him, but she does. Like, I wonder why she lets him drink.
A
Yeah. He has to stop.
B
He has to stop. That's just such an easy fix. Like, you're a bad drunk. You make bad decisions. Don't drink.
A
Bad, bad, bad.
B
Yeah. And it's not like he drinks a lot. Like, they were saying nice stuff about him.
A
Yeah.
B
But it doesn't seem like he has a problem.
A
Some people just don't mix well with alcohol.
B
One time is too much. Get daddy a drink.
A
Oh, stop.
B
It's actually funny.
A
Also, Zach.
B
Benji.
A
Benji wasn't in this episode, thankfully. But, like, him showing up to get ready for the party and, like, not going the most.
B
Loser not invited even. It's not like he's turning it down. Like, what are you doing there? I really, like. I don't.
A
And can you explain to me why Kristen feels she's owed an apology from Janet for the podcast thing?
B
I guess so. Yeah.
A
And, like, and what she said on the podcast was that, you know, referencing these people being like, Kristen and Zach didn't care if my pregnancy went full term.
B
Yeah.
A
Which I guess, like, Kristen did not say Zach did, but she.
B
She, like, sat by him as he.
A
Said that, and she's, like, guilty by association. Like, Britney has at least condemned him for it.
B
Yeah.
A
Nobody's holding Britney accountable for what Zach said, even though they're best friends.
B
Right. Right. But no, she was, like, sitting there, and she didn't, like, speak out against it, so led Jadon to feel like she didn't care either.
A
Okay.
B
Which then, like, Kristen feels like is a big thing to say about her. But so I actually think that they can clear things up. And when Zach was like, this is the saddest. It's like, well, why would Janet invite Kristen and forgive Kristen and not me?
A
She didn't say that. That you did.
B
That's like. But that's just, like, a sad spot to be in. Like, two people are fighting. Like, one person's getting forgiveness and you're not.
A
And it's so much more than, like, being invited to the event. It's like, grasping onto relevance in the show.
B
Of course.
A
Like, and so it's like, you're not invited and you're already kind of like hanging on by a thread with your Benji storyline and now like things are getting thrown through a loop even more.
B
Yeah. And like last year he wasn't invited on the baby moon and he cried. He cried, Claudia. At least this year he didn't cry when he wasn't invited to Dave and Buster.
A
Dave and Busters looks like a good time.
B
It did look like a good time. Janet is funny. Like with I really didn't like understand her obsession with Dave and Buster's. Like, I didn't realize how real it was for her, but it's very real.
A
I I understood it because I also happen to absolutely love Dave and Busters.
B
And you love games.
A
I do love games. And I've loved playing the this game with you.
B
This game of love.
A
Thank you guys so much for listening to the Toast and Monday morning show. We deal with the fastest five stories you need to know every Monday, Friday and YouTube. If you're watching us on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe this video. Thumbs up Also available as podcasts and wear podcast. Be found Spotify Public Radio Wire Guest box Excuse me all the places five star review about a beautiful sounding and wickedly talented we are.
B
Yeah love yeah Bye.
Title: Slay The Dragon, Save The Princess
Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry
Release Date: April 30, 2025
In this engaging episode of "The Toast," hosts Jackie and Claudia Oshry explore a diverse range of topics, from personal updates and merchandise launches to in-depth discussions on celebrity news and pop culture phenomena. Below is a detailed summary capturing the key points, discussions, insights, and conclusions from the episode.
Jackie and Claudia kick off the episode by celebrating the successful launch of their "Mama" merchandise collection. They highlight the overwhelming response and the challenges typically faced during merch launches.
Claudia ([01:33]):
"Moms are capable... they didn't have that usual issue we had this morning, which was actually really nice."
Jackie ([01:12]):
"Our mama collection... it's already sold out."
They commend the resilience and efficiency of moms in managing the launch without the usual website confusions, emphasizing the strong support from their target audience.
The hosts share personal anecdotes about organizing their home in anticipation of a new baby. Jackie discusses the meticulous process of setting up separate storage for her husband Bruno and their dog Romeo, showcasing her commitment to maintaining an organized household.
Jackie ([04:16]):
"We have never once ground our own meat... and I feel as though we're past the cool I've got my eye on."
Claudia adds humorously about their kitchen gadgets, highlighting the blend of practicality and personal touch in their home setup.
Jackie and Claudia delve into a thoughtful analysis of Megan Fox's acting career, particularly her early roles that often typecast her as a bully.
Claudia ([03:39]):
"I think she can't be put in a box."
Jackie ([03:41]):
"I just think of her as a famous woman."
They ponder whether Megan Fox's on-screen personas reflect her true personality or if they are a testament to her versatile acting skills. The discussion highlights the challenges actors face with typecasting and the struggle to showcase their full range.
The announcement of a new spin-off titled "Wisteria Lane" sparks a heated debate between the hosts about the viability and respect for the original "Desperate Housewives" series.
Jackie ([43:14]):
"It was a perfect show... Stop desecrating the legacy of great shows."
Claudia ([41:37]):
"Desperate Housewives offshoot show Wisteria Lane is in the works..."
They express strong opinions against the reboot, emphasizing the original show's legacy and expressing doubts about the new production's ability to capture the same magic without the original cast and creative team.
Jackie and Claudia discuss the recent sightings of Sydney Sweeney with her co-star Brendan Sklenar, speculating on the nature of their relationship amidst their professional collaborations.
Claudia ([24:33]):
"Sydney Sweeney was spotted with Brendan Sklenar at Stagecoach."
Jackie ([28:49]):
"They were filming together... I think this is Fabulous."
They consider the potential for a romance while acknowledging the professionalism required in their working relationship, leaving the matter open-ended.
The hosts analyze Meghan Markle's appearance on Jamie Kern Lima's podcast, discussing the insights into Meghan's personal life and the public's reaction to her candidness.
Claudia ([32:08]):
"She's talking about motherhood, her marriage... her self-worth."
Jackie ([34:12]):
"She's nothing if not consistent... really cringy."
They critique Meghan's self-presentation, noting the mixed reactions from the audience and questioning the authenticity and self-awareness of her public persona.
Jackie and Claudia address Katy Perry's recent social media statements about coping with online hate and harassment. They commend her resilience and positive outlook despite the negativity she faces.
Claudia ([47:13]):
"Katy Perry is speaking out about being beaten and bruised by the Internet."
Jackie ([49:24]):
"She is doing well... It's a healthy mindset."
The discussion underscores the broader issue of internet negativity and highlights Perry's effective strategies for maintaining her mental health, serving as an inspiration for listeners facing similar challenges.
The hosts recap a particularly tumultuous episode of "Watch What Happens Live," focusing on Britney Spears' difficult interview and the ensuing drama with co-hosts.
Jackie ([58:41]):
"Britney was asked about Stassi... felt like a bad episode for Danny."
Claudia ([60:22]):
"She was brutally rebuffed... it's really insufferable."
They express concern over the portrayal of Britney Spears and critique the handling of her personal issues on the show, labeling certain behaviors as toxic and questioning the fairness of the questions posed to her.
Jackie ([01:12]):
"Our mama collection... it's already sold out."
Claudia ([01:33]):
"Moms are capable... they didn't have that usual issue we had this morning, which was actually really nice."
Claudia ([03:39]):
"I think she can't be put in a box."
Claudia ([24:33]):
"Sydney Sweeney was spotted with Brendan Sklenar at Stagecoach."
Claudia ([32:08]):
"She's talking about motherhood, her marriage... her self-worth."
Jackie ([34:12]):
"She's nothing if not consistent... really cringy."
Jackie ([43:14]):
"It was a perfect show... Stop desecrating the legacy of great shows."
Claudia ([47:13]):
"Katy Perry is speaking out about being beaten and bruised by the Internet."
Claudia ([50:20]):
"She can’t be brought down... a healthy dose of delusion is really in a situation like this."
Jackie ([57:02]):
"He's a psychological terrorist."
In "Slay The Dragon, Save The Princess," Jackie and Claudia Oshry offer their trademark blend of humor, candidness, and insightful commentary. From celebrating their successful merchandise launch to dissecting the complexities of celebrity relationships and media portrayals, the hosts provide listeners with a rich tapestry of discussions that are both entertaining and thought-provoking. Their ability to navigate personal anecdotes alongside broader pop culture topics ensures that the episode is both relatable and engaging for a wide audience.