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Good morning, millennials.
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Welcome back to the toast and Happy Monday. That has, you know, really getting Monday energy because we're separated. Families have been torn apart.
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We haven't been in this setup since, like, almost weeks. Two weeks. Because we were in Miami, Trick.
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B
Yes.
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And we did a remote the day before. So we are back with our frames. Nature is healing.
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B
Yes. The wind's coding. Is coding.
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A
How's being home?
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B
I really miss you. I really miss our party studio. I miss being near the beach. But it's been so nice to be in my own bed. I can't lie. Like, you could take me to the most magical of places, like a free trip where I have a butler. Like, it could be the best trip in the world. But that trip doesn't have my bed. And at some point, I'm going to want to go home, you know?
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A
Yeah. How was the hotel bed? Sometimes hotel beds are, like, the best bed you've ever been in, but a lot of times it's, like, scratchy.
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B
Well, when your needs are as specific as a pregnant woman, it's hard to just, like, flop around in another person's bed. Do you know what I mean? You have your things, like, at home. I have a lot of different necessities, especially on the nightstand. On the actual bed, it's kind of an orchestra.
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Okay, so now you have your necessities.
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B
But in an attempt to feel a little bit more. In an attempt to feel a little bit closer to you, I've decided to do something a little dramatic.
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A
Okay. Wow.
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B
Now, if you're watching on YouTube, you'll see I've put on my three blind. My sunglasses. Now I want to say something.
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A
I don't.
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B
I'm going to take them off. Okay, I'm going to take them off, but. But I am actually going to. And maybe I'll buy another pair, because I love these sunglasses, but I am going to leave them here in the studio on the table next to my microphone, because while we had so much fun, and of course, you can't wear sunglasses forever. It's not. It's not feasible. I do feel like these sunglasses gave me, like, a sense of bravery I haven't had in a really long time, just kind of speaking my truth and saying things that I might not normally say, like, Bonnie Blue is a whore, you know? And I feel like it was due to, like, the shield these gave me, kind of, like, blocking out the haters. So if there's ever a time I need to say something a little brave, I can put on these glasses and Find the courage.
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A
Like your invisibility cloak.
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B
Exactly. So I'm not gonna wear them the entire time, but I'm just letting you know they're. First of all, everybody wants to know where they're from. They're Orium Collective. Yeah. We support Influencer founded brands here and Toaster founded brands. I'm going to leave them here. And also my face is. My face is getting like a little big for them. They're like. They're my sunglasses I wear when I'm skinny. So that'll be in a few months time. So I don't really need these right now. Just I can leave them in the studio.
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A
Okay, good. Because I was gonna say, like, I do need to be able to see as much of your face as possible since our presences and our auras are not physically why I was going to be on the side.
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B
I know.
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A
Which is the side I never wanted to be on.
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B
I'm not going to be. I'm not going to be wearing them full time. And also, people don't realize kind of the challenges that come with wearing sunglasses indoors for like 75 minutes. It kind of gives you a migraine, especially when you're wearing a slick back bun and headphones. Like, it's just a lot of pressure on your temples. So I did what I had to do to feel your body is a temple, to feel my best. Now that obviously the scars from my facelift have healed, I. I can, you know, remove the sunglasses and not feel shame.
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Great. I'm so happy for you and your sunglasses and then. And the bravery. It's a brave new world.
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B
And, you know, we're obviously different because you don't need a pair of sunglasses to say brave things, but I do. So it's just there are two different types of swirlies in this world. You know, it's true.
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A
It's like a blankie.
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Correct.
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A
Some people need their blankie.
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B
Now we have like a big show today because it's Monday, which means just like verbal diarrhea.
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A
Lots to talk about to catch up on since we haven't been in three days.
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B
But also yesterday was White Lotus episode two, which we both watched, and I'm fully caught up on Love is Blind. I don't know where you're at, but, like, I'm loving spoiling it for you, so you're just gonna have to deal with it.
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A
Spoiler for me. I tried my best to. To watch stuff, and I got so hard. I maybe cumulatively got through another whole episode, but it just takes forever. The episodes are so long, and I had the busiest weekend, so I. Like, all my spare time that I could devote to it, I did. But then last night, I had to watch White Lotus, and then that was that on that for me. So I probably made, like, very little headway. But I just know, like, I spent all my time watching it. I just didn't have a lot of time.
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B
So. White Lotus is Blind recap will be at the end of today's show. So if you're looking for, like, a full. I'm fully caught up on Love is Blind, and I'm gonna do my best to stay on top of it, but I hear you. It is so fudgeing. Dreadful.
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A
I watched so much Claudia and I.
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B
Watched Five minutes went by. Yeah, it's thick. It's dense. Like, it's dreadful. I'm enjoying it.
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A
And I'm already watching things that, like, you've already told me about, so I'm so behind.
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B
Well, Jackie, just wait, because, like, now TikTok has entered the chat. Like, there's a TikTok that goes viral in real time about one of the castmates, and, like, they talk about it.
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A
Wait, I'm obsessed. I'll get there. So it's a good season, or do you take back what you said?
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B
No, no, it's not a good season. And this is what it really boils down to. This isn't spoiling anything. Um, at the end of the day. No, I'm saying. But I'll save all the spoilers, so, like, it'll be in the timestamp. So I'm not spoiling anything right now. But at the end of the day this season, they. They can do what they want. You know, they can try as they may, but it is inherently bad because this is an extremely uncool, uninteresting group of people. And that's really. Like, you can only do so much with editing or whatever, with just a. A group of really, really regular people. Like, there's nothing. Honestly, Joey is. Is a character. Like, he's special. I've never met anyone like him other than that. Like, they're all. It's like, put them in a lineup. I couldn't. They look alike, they act alike. They're just very regular.
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A
Yeah.
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And there's only so far we can go.
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A
Okay, well, we will recap that at the end of the show. Not right now.
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B
Yes. No, no, not right now.
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A
We would never do that right now.
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B
I wanted to talk about something I actually meant. Meant to get your opinion on, because I, of course, remember you Talking about this when you were at my stage of life and I wasn't listening. Okay, but my lease is up on your car in. Yeah, in like two, three months.
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A
Oh, my God. You need a Jerry.
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B
I fear I must have a Jerry. No, I fear I must transition to somewhat of like a mom car, you know?
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A
Your car is not. Not a mom car.
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B
My car's an suv, which makes me think it's like a mom car, but. And I like to think I'm the type of like, mom who's going to drive a Range Rover. But, like, let's be real, like, I need a. I need a mom car.
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A
Yeah. Also the car's too high up. Like, how. Like, especially do the Duna. Oh, my gosh. You would have to be Tyson Fury to pick that thing up.
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Perfect car for like this very cool phase of my life, you know? But I'm becoming different now. I'm struggling because, like, this is a car. Like, obviously, like, you know, I'm going to transport my family and has to be safe. It has to be efficient. But I'm still me, you know, I'm still gonna pull up to the club in this car, you know, So I can't go full mom car. And I'm looking for suggestions.
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A
So people love the Volvo. That was like, what I almost thought before.
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B
I was thinking Volvo.
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A
Before I was put on to Tesla, I was probably gonna get the Volvo mom car.
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B
And you're saying it like vulva.
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A
What is it?
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But it's V O. So Volvo.
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Volvo.
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You're saying Volvo.
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A
But, you know, the car mom is a toaster. And she. Yeah, I gotta watch some of her videos or Jerry. No, she'll hear this. And she will. She gave me like a really long.
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B
So the car mom is like this influencer who does like really in depth reviews of every different car, like, for different moms. Like, here's helpful things that'll. But she doesn't cover, like, the. Like, I need also the cool factor.
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A
She review, like the cyber truck and evaluates it from a mom's perspective. Like, she will give you, like, whatever car you want. I'm trying to think, I guess like a real, like the coolest mom cars are like, you know, the Escalade.
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So I was thinking. I also saw a while ago Rach Parcel talking about her mom car, which was a Navigator.
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Yeah.
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It was like this brand new Lincoln Navigator. It looked like like a limo. Like, it was so sick on the inside. And that stuck with me too. But, like, are Lincoln safe? I don't know. Yeah.
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You'll have to look into that. But also like an Escalade take a bit much for one child.
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B
Yeah. But it's also me and Ben. And me, Ben and child and Ben's golf clubs. Oh, by the way. Yeah. Yeah. So that's four human beings and we really take up a space of like six. So you're right. Maybe an Escalade is exactly what we need. What happens if, you know, God willing, we have a second child? Like, we wouldn't fit in the Escalade.
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What about. And then parking, like, that's going to be a bitch.
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Yeah. So in New York City, the bigger your car, like it can, it can double your parking, like costs per month. So it's a lot of things to consider.
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A
Like some people would do like a Porsche Cayenne.
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B
Okay. So I would love to be a Porsche Cayenne kind of mother. I can't lie. It's just like a little expensive, you.
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Know, I'm sort dollars and cents.
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I don't know. It's a Porsche, It's a Porsche.
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I know, but I feel like that Porsche Cayenne, like it looks like a BMW X5 or whatever. And it's like that's just how bad you want to be driving a Porsche. Like it looks like all the other mom cars. You just like couldn't concede.
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B
If I were to just like throw caution to the wind and get like a car that's like not a mom car, but it's just like a big ass car. Like I would get that Hummer, the electric one. Electric or not electric? You know, I don't care about the environment.
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But do they make a. I don't know if they make non electric Hummer these days.
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Yeah. Because like the OG Hummer was such a gas guzzler. They were forced out of the market.
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A
Yeah. So that's like.
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What about a Yukon? You know, I think there's a lot of good options out there. I'm closing this chapter of my life. Like me and my sexy cool Range Rover Sport, you know?
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A
Yeah. Bon voyage. Range Rover. I like that. So hard to get into.
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B
It is.
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A
Yeah.
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It's really high up. Yeah. Especially for girls like us.
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A
Oh my gosh. And when we did a mukbang and it was literally nine months pregnant trying to get. I'm glad that you're actually getting rid of the car like asap, because you're not gonna be able to get in it for much longer.
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B
It's so true. And then also my seat is even higher because I have my coccydinia. Pillow on it, of course. So there's just been a myriad of challenges, and I'm looking forward to this next chapter.
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A
I'm looking forward to that, too, for you. And it's also very exciting.
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B
You have a really good mom car. Like, Zach's car.
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A
Oh, my gosh. I don't like.
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B
You don't like it?
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A
No.
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B
So, everybody, when you guys told me you were getting the Kia Tilly ride, I'm like, ew. And let me tell you, nobody drives that car more than me. I think it's the most amazing car. I think it is the most amazing car in the inside. You would never know it's a Kia. It looks like a Uber X. Like, it's not X.
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A
Excuse me.
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Uber black. It's so gorgeous. It drives so amazing. But, you know, you got to be driving a Kia.
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A
Yeah.
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And that's something I personally like. That's a boundary I can never cross.
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A
You're very much like a car snob.
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I'm. That I'm really shallow when it comes. And me. Have you ever met Ben?
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A
You guys are such car snaps. Which is so funny, because, like, I'm not a car snob. And I'm not saying I'm not, like, snobby about other stuff. I'm just, like, weirdly, not a car snob.
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B
Yeah.
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Now that I drive, like, a Tesla, I feel like I'm not even in the conversation. Like, I don't even know where Tesla ranks. It's just, like, on another planet.
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It's true. It's true. You're not a part of, like, the OG Convo with, like, all the different.
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Dealerships, but I do think I once saw, like, a list of, like, cars. Like, I don't know, luxury cars. Whatever. I do think Tesla falls under luxury.
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B
I would. I would say yes. Yeah, no, I'm snobby and, like, I want something fabulous. Sorry.
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I do more car snobby than you. I forgot about.
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B
Oh, my God.
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A
I could never, like, recommend.
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B
No, no. When Ben heard you guys were getting Ikea, like, he wasn't. Okay.
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A
Time is almost up.
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B
I'm. I will be devastated. And can I tell you, because I remember when you did this whole car mom conversation. Which one should I get? And you and Zach were, like, really? Like, all the options. Like, the best one was a Kia telly ride. I was floored. I'm like, you guys, you're too cool for Ikea. And I was wrong. I was wrong. It's fabulous.
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A
When we got the Kia, I didn't even have my license yet. So I really let Zach take the reins on the decision making and that he didn't like, the Kia, had the Telluride, had been having a moment in that moment when we were looking for a car and he got totally swept up in the car of the moment. And like, I now he would admit, like, that and he got a three year lease. Like, we can't get rid of this thing. He would admit that, like, it wasn't everything that was promised to him. So we're really looking forward to moving on. But what's so funny is, like, now that I have my license, like, and now that I drive a lot, when I drive with Zach now, like, now I notice I should think he was like the best driver.
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B
Yeah, she's a little critical.
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A
But now I'm like, noticing stuff. Like, he's kind of like on the fence about using his turn signals. I'm like, you've got a signal for everything, my friend.
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B
So I agree. I'm with you because I'm like a seasoned driver and I don't give up on signaling. Like, even the smallest thing. Lane changing and signaling, it has definitely become optional in certain parts of the country. It's so crazy to me. I will never be one of those drivers.
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A
I noticed all the stuff. He's also, like, always so late to, like, get into the right lane for the correct lane for his turn.
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B
Well, that's like you being like, new driver, neurotic.
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A
No, like, we were literally at the light in the right lane, but we were going left. And he's like, literally driving perpendicular to get into his lane. I'm like, yeah, what are you doing?
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B
Yeah, yeah. No, it's easy to become critical.
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A
Yeah. So I'm sure, like, he rues the day.
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B
I used to notice that's a project I'm taking on.
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A
Very, very exciting. I should be getting my new car soon, which is exciting for me. Also, we were like, we had one of those weekends where we lived out of my car. Like, we were just out all day. Like, diaper changes in the trunk, like, change of clothes everywhere. Like, it was literally our mobile home, nomadic. So. And I, I'm getting another Model Y. I love it, highly recommend. But I won't even go there with you. I'm sure in a few years you'll be like, I'm thinking about a Tesla. Blah.
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B
The thing is, I'm sure it's a great car. The charging, it's not for me, but mostly it's not for Ben. And Ben's the one in charge of, like, keeping our car guzzling gas or, you know, having battery. And the couple of times, like, we rented electric cars, we used your Tesla. He hates it.
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A
Yeah, well, you have to, like, I have a charger wherever you live. I've never.
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B
And Ben does a lot of long distance drives. Like, he's driving to Massachusetts tomorrow.
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A
Like, it's not for that.
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B
It's not for us.
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A
It's not for that.
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B
Yeah, sorry.
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A
Okay, well, keep us posted.
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B
Should we dive in? Like, we do have a lot. Even though, like, no. And it feels like it doesn't feel. Transitioning to talking about something that's not us is, like, not something I'm dying to do.
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A
And, like, the stories are, like, meh. Like, I'm not, like, itching. Like, it just doesn't feel right. I feel like we talked about one thing, and that was, like, cars that said not enough for pre Fast five banter. I also know there are people out there who, like, only listen to the show for the pre Fast five banter, so that would mean they were leaving us. It's too soon.
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B
All right, I'll share a story. I didn't even. I didn't even tell you this. And if you watched my Instagram story without sound, which I'm sure you did, because you never listen to my stories of sound, you missed this, so.
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A
Because you don't have captions on your stories.
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B
No, I don't.
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A
Not access.
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B
I am ableist. I am ableist.
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A
Yeah, Cool.
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B
I mean, list. Because honestly, when I do that caption thing on Instagram, I talk so fast, and I don't use English words like par g that I have to, like, edit it. Don't edit it, because don't come to another job.
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A
Don't even edit it. Just give us the captions we can decipher. Parchi.
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B
Okay. So I had a kind of a busy day yesterday, Ben, in the middle of February. I thought it would be good to golf, and I. I allowed it. You know, I become very strict about when Ben can leave the house. But I figured, like, if I gave this one, I would. I would get some, like, leeway to say no. I had. I hadn't said yes in a while, so I had to busy myself. I got a manicure, I went to the kosher grocer, and I ended up walking. Yeah, that's right. Like, 10 blocks. And that's not something I've done.
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A
And I'm walking.
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B
I know. And I didn't have my headphones or anything, so I'm just enjoying the party. Ness. Of the city. And I do what normal people do. I'm like eavesdropping. There's three girls behind me. They're so swirly, you know, they're just like girls. They're wearing hokas leggings, like big socks. Like they were just. I knew they listened to the toast. And I'm walking in front of them and I'm listening to their conversation. They're gossiping about a wedding. And then they're like, by the way, I did not like the toast. And I was like, what the. They don't know I'm right in front of them. And the other girl goes, no, I agree, it was really burnt. And I was like, oh, oh, I.
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A
Thought you meant the toast that like the groom made at the wedding.
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B
Oh, oh, I thought she meant the podcast.
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A
Well, first of course, but then I'm like, wait, no, they're talking about a wedding. There was a toast.
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B
No, no, by the way, it wasn't back to back. So she was talking about a wedding. They were talking about a bunch of things and then it was like silence.
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A
Was it a walking wedding?
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B
She was like, I didn't like the toast. Maybe they were coming from a meal or something. And the other girl was like, yeah, I was really burnt. And at first I like, my heart stopped. I'm like, oh my God, am I about to like, notice people talking about me in real life? Like crazy. Cuz you know, sometimes you hear things that are not meant for your ears.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And I'm like, oh my God, what are they going to say? Yeah, that chubby one is so annoying. Like, I didn't know what they were going to say. I wanted to cross the street. Like. And then I realized they probably don't listen to the podcast and not everything is about me. And the word toast, like, does exist in other universes besides my own.
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A
So they were just complaining about burnt toast?
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B
Yeah, I think they just came from brunch. It was like a Sunday at 1. Okay, so maybe they were like recapping the meal.
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A
But they still like this show, hopefully.
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B
Well, I don't even know if they listen to it, but. And I looked so.
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A
Not to make everything. Not to make everything about us.
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B
Well, it's hard not to when things like that happen.
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A
Okay.
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B
And something I've noticed is I definitely like, have given up a little bit on like my, my forward facing looks when it comes to just like random things, you know, Like I don't have so much energy these days. So I'll get dressed for the toast. And that's pretty much it. Like, me and Ben go out to lunch. Like, I can't.
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A
Gotta let skin breathe.
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B
A hundred percent. It's the biggest organ.
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A
Like, me when I leave my house looking like, you gotta let the skin breathe.
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B
Wow, Trudy, you look terrible. I'm letting my skin breathe.
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A
Skin's breathing.
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B
And the last couple of times I've, like, run into toasters. They're like, oh, my God, I didn't recognize you. I recognize Ben. And, like, they meant it very harmlessly. They're like, oh. Oh, my God. I'm like, I saw BSC And I knew it was you guys. I'm like, oh, what?
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A
You're saying, oh, you're a. Yeah, yeah. What not to say.
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B
And, like, a couple of girls said it, and I was like, wait, do I look different? Yes, I do. I'm, like, not trying. And my hair isn't done. Like, I'm really. I'm really phoning it in unless I'm on camera these days. Whereas I used to, like, have, you know, so much fun. Let's go to lunch and, like, blow out my hair. No, I didn't recognize you. I saw bsc. Rude bsc. So done with him.
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A
Yeah, no, I had a Saturday like that. Like, yucky. Well, my skin was breathing, and that was good.
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B
Okay.
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A
And I was not. I went out Saturday night. My hair tell you I went out Saturday night. Do you know that you went out?
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B
You didn't even post anything.
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A
I know because, like, I didn't have my. Like, my. My files in order, but I might.
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B
Post it, like, Saturday night, and we in the spot. Where'd you go?
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A
Don't believe me? Just watch. I went to a charity event. My friend Erica invited me.
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B
Okay, that's not like, going out. I think you, like, went to a club.
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A
Oh, my God, Like a bar. No, no, no. I went to an event. I was out there.
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B
A cocktail.
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A
No, you didn't go out because I was driving us home. I said, zach, you could drink. I'll drive.
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B
Oh, okay.
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A
And I'll turn. I'll use that.
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B
Get wasted.
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A
I'll use my signals.
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B
Does that get wasted?
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A
No, he didn't. He actually wound up driving us home.
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B
Oh, that's really funny. I. Maybe twice in my lifetime have I seen your husband, like, truly wasted. One time, maybe three times. Actually, one time was your wedding where he, like, got up and wrapped. Amazing. The one other time was at Stagecoach where he took, like, a lobster roll to the face. And the other time was, like, somebody's birthday party, like, early on when we all Met. It's only been three times. And it was so much fun all three times.
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A
Yeah, it is.
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B
I would love to see that again.
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A
Maybe one day.
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B
Let's roofy Zach.
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A
We're kind of in the same boat now. Of you.
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B
Exactly.
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A
Yeah. You know, we got to do.
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B
I know. Up early with the kids. Like, who needs that?
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A
Can't be doing that. So anyways, that's why I. I went free of Fotch on Saturday because I knew I was getting ready Saturday night because I went out.
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B
Yeah. So the next time, like, you're feeling ugly, not only can you say you're letting your skin breathe, you're also like, repairing the heat damage to your hair.
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A
Right.
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B
I have a hair mask in. Like, you just. It's somebody's business.
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A
No, it's really not. So now, without further ado, I guess. I guess.
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B
Well, I'm really excited about our lead sponsor.
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A
Something that there's a couple things we need to talk about. So without further ado, it is time for the Fast 5 stories that you.
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A
Yeah. Pasta.
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B
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A
Turt Grain.
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B
What can I say?
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A
Our first story, some legal news. Oh, Diddy's lawyer has quit his defense team. He said, under no circumstances can I continue.
- [24:21]
B
And that's like never a good sign. But it's also really not a good sign when that lawyer like once represented Osama bin Laden, you know.
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A
Yeah, so one of.
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B
And that's not a euphemism. I'm sorry, he represented.
- [24:33]
A
Yeah.
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B
The late, great Osama.
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A
And from what I understand, like, lawyers don't really turn down high profile cases like this. Like eat win or lose. It's how you play the game.
- [24:42]
B
No. And of course, like, ethically, it's like a dilemma. But a job is a job. That's sort of like a thing lawyers just have made peace with, you know?
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A
Yeah, but I think that's also like part of being a lawyer. I don't know what kind of oath they take, but it's like, even if everybody has a right sin, I will defend you.
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B
Well, think about everyone who's ever been on trial.
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A
Yeah.
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B
No, but also that's also the crazy thing. I was watching this documentary, Client privilege.
- [25:07]
A
So like the attorney could even know if you did it and they still have to defend you. Like you didn't.
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B
I was just watching this documentary and I didn't finish it because it wasn't very good. But it was about like how in the 70s, this guy was like living in Cleveland as like an. He worked at like a factory or whatever. Turns out he was like this enormous Nazi. And when they brought. What were those trials called in Israel? The Nuremberg.
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A
Nuremberg trials. Yes.
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B
So a lot of people don't know this, but like many years after the war when Israel became like the Jewish homeland and they, you know, created their own government and stuff, they hosted the Nuremberg trials because they were like all these low key Nazis who after the war like went on to like live lives and have jobs without going to jail for, you know, killing. So they would, like, you know, very famous ones. Adolf Eichmann. Right. He did a Nuremberg trial. Trial. He had to sit in a glass box because somebody was, like, totally going to shoot him. So this guy living in Cleveland was, like, this huge, like, famous Nazi. They end up figuring it out. He gets extradited to Israel. And the crazy thing about that is, like, even those Nazis had lawyers.
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A
Yeah.
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B
That was the point of the story. Excuse me. I got a little off track to bring it back to Diddy. They could get lawyers and you can't. Yeah, I'm suspicious.
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A
No. So it's not, like, something that the lawyer is ever going to shy away from a case just because you're guilty as sin. So this is.
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B
And the more high profile it is, even if it's, like, so guilty, that makes your career. Yeah, those are. Those are the types of cases where careers are made.
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A
Yeah. So Anthony Rico did not provide a reason for his request in which he wrote, under no circumstances can I continue to effectively serve as counsel for Sean Combs. According to an affidavit obtained by People, a judge will need to grant Rico's motion before he is officially removed from the case. Combs would still have five other attorneys defending him in his federal sex trafficking case, including lead counsel Mark Agnes Filio. So it's not his lead counsel, but one of six now.
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B
I feel like we all, like, jumped the gun when we heard this. It's like, oh, my God, he knows all the terrible things, and he doesn't want to be a part of it anymore. Whereas it's probably something a little bit more, like, administrative than that. Like, a lot of times, like, a lawyer will have to recuse themselves because of, like, a conflict of interest with another client. Like, I don't know. I feel like it's more something like that than a big skandal.
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A
Yeah. As we said, like, even Nazis got lawyers. I don't think it's someone who, like, saw too much and is like. Or even. I think people are now starting to feel like Diddy couldn't possibly win this. Like, I think a lot of stuff is gonna go.
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B
Yeah. But he still would have to pay his lawyers, even if he.
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A
Yeah, I don't think that stops you. And again, it's, like, one of six. So I agree with you that it's probably something more inside baseball.
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B
Or maybe this man, like, attended a party or something, you know, maybe. And they just realize, like, maybe he's innocent. But one time he went to a party, and it turned out to be a diddy party with a client.
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A
Or maybe he just found God and was like, I don't wanna. But I. I'm sure there are godly lawyers who defend the guilty for sure.
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B
Well, I think a really godly person would say even the guiltiest of criminals deserve a defense.
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A
Fair trial. Innocent until proven guilty. They might say.
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B
Yeah, this isn't giving godliness.
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A
No, no, no.
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B
I think that, honestly, if I had to guess, like, it's just something like a little. What's the word I'm looking for? Not administrative. Clerical.
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A
Yeah, I understand. You know what you're saying there's a.
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B
Lot of drama, like, around who can.
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A
Represent who may beefing with one of the five. Think about that.
- [28:35]
B
Maybe perhaps there's an internal conflict.
- [28:37]
A
So his lady.
- [28:39]
B
Perhaps it could be a. Yeah, a classic case of an, you know, an intercommunication issue.
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A
Yeah, beefing.
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B
Or he doesn't want to defend, you know, a freaky.
- [28:50]
A
No, no, because he already wanted to defend a freaky ass.
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B
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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A
So, yeah, I. I think there's drama.
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B
Yeah, I think it's more paperwork, you know, pushing, like papers around a desk sort of thing.
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A
I think they went out to team drinks and it was a classic deer toasters. Someone's man flirting with someone's lady.
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B
I'll have to check our email to see if we got any submissions.
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A
If we got a submission from Anthony.
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B
Rico, literally, we probably wrote under a pseudonym, Anthony Fico. Oh, my goodness.
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A
Are you ready for our next story? Which I really tried to not choose, but then just all the thoughts inside of me were bursting to the top.
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B
Okay, I would love to know what you're referring to.
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A
Meghan Markle's latest set of Instagram stories.
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B
Okay, I did watch them without sound, and I will say the content is starting to lose its luster for me. Like, at first I was like, gimme, gimme, gimme. And now I'm like, okay, you're in a field. Like, who hasn't been there?
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A
You know, there are so many things here. She posted a set of stories, maybe like six stories, each ranging five to 10 seconds. So, like, very little snippets. And the first story said, small break from work to soak in the weekend sunshine emoji. So it's different videos, like, around her estate of the flowers, and then the grass and the dog running in the grass. And it didn't matter that you didn't listen with sound. It was just the sounds of nature. And then there's one selfie of her that's like three seconds. You can see that she's wearing a Northwestern sweatshirt which like, you know, Princess Diana famously wore. And like it's just a three second selfie video. Nothing happens. But Megan is laughing. Classic Megan.
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B
So unbelievably classic. Now I have no issue with this except for one tiny thing.
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A
Okay.
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B
When people say like taking a break from work and it's like a Sunday. Right. That's when she posted it. Or a Saturday, it's giving that tick tock sound. I just finished work and it's 5:19. Try being an influencer for a day. Like we get it. You work hard. Haha. We all do. Like when people have to like post on social media like to prove that.
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A
They'Re like meetings all day. Finally have a minute to chat to you guys.
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B
We don't give a, you know.
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A
Sure.
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B
I, I find that like in a lot of. And mostly I find this in like other. When I'm watching like other content creators or influencers being like a day my life. I'm like, well you definitely chose a busy day and you are being dramatic.
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A
Like sometimes I'll have the busiest day and I'm like, I should record a day in the life.
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B
Yeah, of course people wouldn't do what I do. Not every day is like that. And like the, the truth is, is that like most content creators, like people who don't have really any structure in their drives, like they don't even set an alarm, you know? Yeah. Now I think Megan does set an alarm. Obviously she has kids.
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A
I think she naturally wakes up early. She seems like an early riser.
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B
All that to say the little caption on the video was giving, you know, meetings, meetings, meetings. Try being an influencer for a day.
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A
But also this is her work. Actually like when you say like, what does Megan even do? Like if you had to actually nail down what she does, like it's being a lifestyle content influencer now. So you're not even taking a break from the work. It's more work.
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B
And this is the work you're creating and publishing content.
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A
Yeah. So it's not really a break, but she's soaking in the weekend. She's wearing the Northwestern shirt, she's making a little chuckle to herself. There's literally nothing. There's.
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B
What do you think she was laughing at?
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A
What is anyone ever laughing at when they're running through the backyard filming themselves? Like nothing. It's, it's.
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B
Yeah, totally. I, I need her to stop. You know what I mean?
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A
It's like just stop until the show comes because then you post, like, show clips. There is seriously zero substance here. And like, every time we say there's no substance, and she puts out something with even less substance, and it's just, it's. It's like comical. At this point, I didn't even want to talk about it because not every time she posts an Instagram story does it have to be news. But, like, this was wild, honestly. And some of the videos she was recording like this. I think she did cinematic mode. So it's like add a focus on a flower and then it focuses in like, it's giving Britney Spears.
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B
Yes. So the real story here. Yes. Not every time she posted Instagram story. It's not newsworthy.
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A
But I tried. I tried.
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B
I know. Because she's been so silent for so long and now we're like, forced to look at this, like, so critically. I also find it so strange. Like, I know when you're at that level, like, Meghan Markle's launching a company, you get the best social media managers, the best strategy. People. Like, all this content is pre scheduled, pre published, and the content is so bad and it really makes no sense. And it's not like, I think that a lot also about sometimes with Taylor Swift, like, when she joined Tik Tok, it was seriously some of the weirdest content. Everybody was like, making jokes that she was like, chewy millennial who didn't know how to use TikTok. And you know that, like, she has a whole team of people whose job it is to, like, source the footage and the sounds and everything. And it's like, how did we get with this piece of content with how many people who had to look at this? And that's how I feel a little bit about Megan. It's like this. This instead of Instagram stories, cost you $100,000. 1000% based on salaries and agencies and contracts.
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A
Oh, no. What I was going to say is, like, it. She should spend $100,000 to get this right. Like, the, the way it's filmed. Like, I really think she filmed. I don't think anyone that's a professional in this would, like, have put it out this way. Like, she should have someone filming her picking the orange. Like, we want to see her. I don't want to see your hand. It could be anyone's hand picking the orange. Like, like, no, I think pretty ways to package this because she lives on a beautiful house. Like, I love, like, mindless lifestyle, gardening, nature, content, love. Like, you literally don't even have to say anything. Even though it'd be helpful if you did. So we just, like, know who you are, but it's fine. You don't even have to. But there are ways to make this, like, more beautiful. It's a naturally beautiful environment. And, like, I don't know how this is such a flop.
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B
See, I think that it's a flop. And she had all these people working on it. Like, there's no way she launched a huge social media campaign for, like, after years, like, she's finally kind of coming back. There's no way she didn't hire the best of every agency you possibly could. When it comes to marketing, social media management, content creators. Like, you think about all the agencies in L. A who would love to, like, 1,000%. 55 people worked on the set of Instagram stories.
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A
That's a crying shame. And I, I, I still think it's just her, like, being like, I know how to do this. I've got this, guys.
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B
Like, I don't think so.
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A
Watch the magic.
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B
I don't think so.
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A
Well, I look forward to what's next. Still looking forward to the show. It's not looking good. All south.
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B
Yeah. Even though. What. What's today's date? We're about 10 days away.
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A
Did I write down the new date in my notebook? Oh, the good thing about being back in the studio is having my notebook.
- [35:17]
B
Yeah. You have to fill in Queenie and weenie.
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A
Even though, like, I kind of was, like, fine without it, but it's nice to have. Okay. It moved January 15th. They moved to March 4th.
- [35:27]
B
I do miss a lot of things about my life in Florida. One, I miss sitting behind a desk. I loved the power that gave me and also the flattering angle. Yeah.
- [35:37]
A
But these chairs are comfier.
- [35:39]
B
Yes, these chairs are comfier. I do miss my hotel. My hotel was fab. The. I know. I told everyone, like, I stayed at hotel for the first time, like, ever since Jackie moved to Florida and I won't be returning. And now that I've left the premises, I can say I stayed at the Boca Beach Club. It was amazing.
- [35:52]
A
You should, like, see if they want to do a, like, an Eloise sort of partnership with you.
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B
Where I live there.
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A
There.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And be kind of like a character who lives at the hotel. People could come and see you.
- [36:04]
B
I really feel like I got my money's worth. You know, when you go to a hotel and, like, you use every possible amenity that we got.
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A
Money's worth. We got. Yeah. Even the day she checked out, we're like, hey, yeah, Claudia's room.
- [36:15]
B
We're going to highway here. Room 1101.
- [36:18]
A
We're going.
- [36:19]
B
Jackie literally showed up every day with her family. It's so family friendly. But also, like, I use the spa.
- [36:23]
A
Yeah.
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B
I mean, Ben ate at all the restaurants. Ben used the golf course. Ben took the shuttle to all the different properties. Like, we literally were like, you know, it's like that episode of Friends where Ross really wants to get his money's worth from the hotel. So he takes things from the hotel that, like, technically aren't illegal. Like, he doesn't steal the salt shaker, but he steals all the salt inside. Like, that's yours to take. You know, that was me at the Boca Raton. Like, seriously, I was taking everything.
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A
No, but. And also, what they're so good about is so kid friendly, but they have, like, very much, like, cordoned off adult spaces. Like, it doesn't feel.
- [36:53]
B
We were at the beach club, which is, like, a little bit more adult, even though they have, like, a bunch of kids pools.
- [36:57]
A
We had a couple, like, hours, you and I, of just, like, adult time. Like, went to the spa. Hot.
- [37:02]
B
We had lunch at the pool.
- [37:03]
A
We had lunch at the adult pool.
- [37:05]
B
Yeah. Where Jackie was gossiping so loud. Like, we.
- [37:08]
A
Gossiping loud?
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B
Yes. And I said, like, could you lower your voice?
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A
We had lunch at another adult pool, too. At the beach. When on the lawn chairs, where we, like.
- [37:17]
B
Yeah, yeah, but you weren't. You weren't go.
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A
I didn't feel like I don't remember saying anything memorable there.
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B
You didn't.
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A
Anyways, good times, Good times. Are you ready for our next story? Whenever number three is sad news.
- [37:34]
B
Sad or sag.
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A
Oh, it's sad. But speaking of sag, like, we've made the executive decision to just skip over the SAG AFTRA Awards. Like, you guys barely care when we talk about the Grammys and the Oscars. Like, we're certainly not talking about SAG AFTRA Awards.
- [37:47]
B
We didn't watch it. And, like, since when are people watching it? Because they streamed it on Netflix. Like, I saw. And I want to say I think they actually did a good job of, like, trying to get people to watch it. I saw, like, a bunch of clips.
- [37:57]
A
Yeah, I'm sure. But I seriously think 10.
- [38:00]
B
Since when our SAG Aftra, like, required viewing.
- [38:02]
A
I think less than 10% of our audience watched the SAG Awards last night. And so.
- [38:07]
B
Great. And I'm not a part of that 10%.
- [38:09]
A
Right. So we're not going to, like, do a whole recap of this thing that, like, there's plenty of words. We're just skipping over that one.
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B
Agreed.
- [38:16]
A
But the sad news is that, sad, duh, is that Jesus Guerrero, a celebrity hairstylist of Kylie Jenner, Jennifer Lopez, tons of celebrities, has died suddenly and unexpected at the age of 34.
- [38:30]
B
So this weekend, his Instagram name is at Jesus Hair. I feel like people probably recognize him from, like, all the girlies.
- [38:35]
A
All the girlies. And then this weekend, news of his death came out on Instagram from the family announced the news on. In a series of Instagram stories on Sunday. And then I'm sure you saw everyone's, like, favorite celebrities posting about him. He was just like, apparently this great guy, very talented hairstylist. Like, an amazing person, an amazing friend. Like, people are. The community's really torn up about it and they're. It's very, very sad.
- [38:57]
B
And it's so sad. But then, like, there also was some, like, a very unverified drama about the conditions around his death. Apparently he had, like, fallen ill while traveling abroad with a celebrity.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Who these unfounded rumors said was JLo.
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A
And just because, like, a few days ago, he was in Dubai, in Dubai.
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B
With JLo, and he got very sick with pneumonia. The rumors were that, like, JLO left him behind. And actually it's been cleared up that, like, no, they got him back to la. They got him, like, proper care, but he ended up getting pneumonia.
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A
Yeah.
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B
So I don't know what the. What the real, like, conditions around his passing are, but there was some drama trying to be made. Then it was quickly cleared up. I'm not entirely sure.
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A
Yeah. But I think what is somewhat known as that he. Yeah, he fell ill and then passed away of pneumonia. Yeah.
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B
Abroad.
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A
But he was able to make it back. And whoever he was with, like, like, did everything they could to get him back.
- [39:53]
B
Yeah.
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A
To get proper care, but he still passed, which is just so sad. So, so sad. People are saying, obviously the nicest things about him, but just he seems like someone who's just, you know, larger than life.
- [40:03]
B
Yeah. And who, like, really was. Like, people kept around, like, one, because he's obviously talented. Mostly because, like, he's just got great energy.
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A
Yeah. So just.
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B
That's really sad. And he's so young.
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A
Yeah. Sad passing.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Are you ready for our next story, which is some happy news.
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B
Yes.
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A
It's actually some very happy news. I don't know if you've seen this. You probably have.
- [40:23]
B
Dolores. Did it just happen?
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A
Dolores.
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B
Seen my best friend Frank's son.
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A
Frankie Jr. Is engaged his girlfriend, Nicole Perico, they posted photos of the engagement. They got engaged on February 22nd in at St Patrick's Cathedral in New York City. So there's a lot to note.
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B
They're so Italian.
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A
One like, Frankie JR is engaged. Like, he did not mess around. How old is he? He's still.
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B
He's young.
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A
He's young, but he is serious. He's 26, which, like, nowadays, you know, young.
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B
That's young for a guy.
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A
They got engaged to St Patrick's Cathedral. She is so beautiful. I don't even know he had a girlfriend. I don't need to know anything more than these pictures to know that, like, they are a match made in heaven.
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B
I agree. I was so shocked to see this one because he is relatively young to. He's Frank Catania senior son who's like, you know, an endless playboy. So I just thought, like, maybe that was going to be Frank Junior's. I loved to see this. Obviously that should be me, but if it can't, I'm so happy. It's this girl. What's her name? Amber.
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A
Nicole.
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B
Same thing. So thrilled. I feel like Dolores is kind of having an amazing year with traitors. Like, everybody's loving her. She's crushing it now. Personally, things seem to be going really well for her. I was thrilled to hear this. And it does remind me about the issue at hand of New Jersey. And did you see last week there was like a rumor that came out.
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A
That three people have made the cut.
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B
And they were Teresa, Melissa and Dolores.
- [41:57]
A
No, I think. I think it wasn't Theresa. And then I saw that Teresa was getting her own show.
- [42:01]
B
She had her own show. So is Melissa Dolores, who was the third? Hold on.
- [42:11]
A
I don't know. I'm not gonna.
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B
I saw too. It was like unverified.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And Rachel Futa had her baby.
- [42:21]
A
I saw.
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B
Yeah. The claims were that Jennifer Aiden Margaret Joseph's Rachel Fuda and Danielle Cabral had been fired and that Melissa and Dolores would be moving forward in the new season while Teresa would be giving a spin off.
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A
For sure. There was a third name, though. I'm with you.
- [42:35]
B
Yeah, there was.
- [42:35]
A
Right. Third name.
- [42:36]
B
Okay. This reality. But then a spokesperson for Bravo said no decisions have been made for the casting around Ronge. Even though I feel like that's kind of like a legit rumor.
- [42:45]
A
I agree. Like, maybe the absolute decision hasn't been made, but, like, this is like, what's transpiring.
- [42:51]
B
Although I do think, and I'm obviously biased because I'm friends with her, but that Margaret should be on the list of people who stay because, like, say what you want about her, love her, hate her. Like, she is a polarizing housewife who, like, makes shit happen.
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A
Yeah, I totally agree. But she wasn't the third name. She was not. Because I remember it being like, oh, damn. No. Margaret.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Who the hell was the third name that. I'm glad that you saw it, too. I'm so happy for Frank Catania.
- [43:19]
A
Yeah, me too. I'm so happy, girl.
- [43:22]
B
Hearts are breaking everywhere. Yeah, he's kind of a dreamboat for a lot of young gals. But I love that he's, like, you know, in a committed relationship at 26. Like, you wouldn't expect that from him. I don't know why.
- [43:33]
A
Right? No, just because kids these days, you know, they don't want to settle these down.
- [43:39]
B
Like, not him getting married before his dad.
- [43:40]
A
They want to have their cake and eat it too.
- [43:42]
B
It's true.
- [43:43]
A
And he's shirking that.
- [43:45]
B
I love it.
- [43:46]
A
I love it as well. Mazel tov.
- [43:49]
B
Mazel tov. To the Catania family is Dolores. Wait, Dolores Catania? She has her married name? Yeah, she's so old school like that.
- [43:58]
A
The Catania Perico families.
- [44:02]
B
Well, what's her name gonna be? Amber Catania.
- [44:04]
A
Nicole Catania.
- [44:06]
B
Yeah. Right.
- [44:06]
A
A couple of strong scenes, kind of.
- [44:08]
B
Yeah, I was gonna say it's kind of consonant heavy. Nicole Catania.
- [44:11]
A
No, it's. It's perfect. She was born for it.
- [44:14]
B
Oh, you know, me and Ben are watching Desperate Housewives and we're almost done with it. So we were talking last night, like, oh, my God, we're gonna be so sad when it's over. Nope. Ben likes it more than me. Like, it is. And he had seen it before, but, you know, not for a few years. And so we were saying what we were gonna do next, and I realized upon discussing with Ben, Ben has never seen Friday Night Lights, and I think that's what we'll tackle next.
- [44:33]
A
That's good.
- [44:34]
B
And I was like, you don't know? Clear eyes for hearts, can't lose. He was like, I mean, like, I've heard of it, but I don't know what it's like, regarding.
- [44:39]
A
That's good.
- [44:40]
B
Yeah, I think he'll really like it. Texas forever.
- [44:43]
A
He will love it. He. He will love it.
- [44:45]
B
You. You will love it. Like, literally one time, Jackie's kid said that. Like, if you guys don't know, we've been saying that a lot recently. We forgot to give context. Like, one time we heard Harry say You, you will love it. And we never were the same again. So you, you will love it.
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A
Ben.
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B
Ben will love it. Ben will love it. By the way, Harry's right.
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A
Are you ready for our fifth and final story that'll lead into all the TV recaps If it's within the final.
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Story that will lead into all the TV recaps that's brought to you by Sono Bello.
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T U R t.com what can I say?
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Say except yada el cap.
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A
Our fifth and final story that will lead into the White Lotus recap is that Sam Nivola, who plays the little weird little brother on this, of the Ratliff family, the freak is revealing the surprising muse for his character in White Lotus. So he revealed to People magazine that Mike White, the creator of White Lotus, modeled the Ratliff family in the show after Bravo's Southern charm.
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B
By the way, this is so amazing. One Because I could totally see it. And I had seen somebody saying in a tweet that the dad of that family gives Thomas Ravenel energy. Like, I saw that a couple of, like, maybe a week ago, and I was like, oh, my God, totally. The accent is exactly the same. So this being true is so crazy to the person who tweeted that. But also, I feel like this is not the first time where celebrities and actors have admitted, like, Bravo's influence. Was it Grace Van Patten who was like, yeah, we all watched Vanderpump Rules. Or I modeled my character off of, like, Toxic Stassi era. Like, they are literally the blueprint for culture.
- [49:28]
A
Yeah. No, and they're just such, like, interesting characters that when you're trying to, like, character develop on a show, it's like, all the work is done for you. Just study.
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B
Yeah. And I saw Lucius Malfoy, the dad, also talking about his accent because he. I think it's British and he has such a really species. Like, it's not just a Southern accent. They were told to do, like, North Carolina or something. So I bet they watched some Southern Charm.
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A
Yeah, well, they did. So the little brother told People earlier this month that he prepared to play Lachlan Ratliff before heading to Thailand to film. He says Mike White told him to watch one of Bravo's popular reality shows as inspiration for the role. He said, mike told us to go watch Southern Charm. In fact, Jason Isaacs, who plays our dad, kind of modeled his whole accent and character off of that cast. He went on to joke that his on screen sister got to skip out on the homework because she already had it down. She's from Alabama. She found out through everyone else that they were all told to watch Southern Charm. She felt left out.
- [50:28]
B
So when I think of the dad, yes, I definitely see him as a Thomas. When I think of the mom, like, she kind of gives Patricia, like, a little bit. Yeah. And she is by far the best character. She is totally gonna. If someone's gonna be nominated for, like, an Emmy or whatever next season, it'll be her. She's so funny, the kids. I'm trying to think, honestly, the older son is like a little Shep, which, like, sounds insulting to Chef, but a little bit.
- [50:53]
A
But then he's also a little Austin because he's, like, younger. But, yeah, definitely for the accents. It's. It's really good.
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B
And just the daughter doesn't remind me of anyone. I'm talking more like characters walk.
- [51:07]
A
I actually think Patrick Schwarzenegger does, like, a really Good job of carrying himself in the role where he, like, just, like, walks, like, with his butt out. Like a preppy guy. Like.
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B
Yeah, it.
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A
It's more than just accents. Like, it's a whole Persona. Yes.
- [51:22]
B
Yeah. That must be, like, the coolest feeling too. Like, you're Craig and you open up People magazine and you see this, like, the biggest show in the world and they're modeling themselves after you. Yeah. And the episode was like, fine. It's. The thing is, with White Lotus is in order to really, like, enjoy it, you have to watch the whole season. So, like, episode by episode. It's not. It's not, like, a fun show to watch week to week.
- [51:43]
A
It's true. Or at least it doesn't get fun until the end because, like, right now we're world building and character.
- [51:47]
B
Character development.
- [51:49]
A
Yeah. So it's a little bit. And people, like, act like, oh, my God, that was an amazing episode. Like, no, it wasn't.
- [51:54]
B
It wasn't. Stop. It wasn't. Like, I was bored.
- [51:56]
A
Like, half the time was like, like, scenery and animals and then they are pouring tea. Like, it's very slow. Okay. And it's like, all about, like, sideways glances, like, actually.
- [52:05]
B
Right. And undertones.
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A
The only group that's actually having, like, you know, fast paced conversation where things are moving forward are the three women.
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B
Okay, we need to talk about the three women, because let me tell you how fudgeing real that was at first when, like, the two girls, Leslie Bibb and Bridget Moynihan, were talking about the third. I'm like, that's so real. There's always somebody who's like a third. And then the first episode too, they were also, like, leaving her out. But then it turns out that it's just, like one of those really toxic friend groups where, like, you're just talking shit about the other person in the room who's ever. Right. And I'm like, that's also so real. But that girl who we thought was, like, the initial, and don't ask me anybody's name in the show, the one who we thought was, like, the big time loser, but then, like, also ended up being, like, a little villainy about Bridget Moynihan. Like, I do think she's the toxic one in the friend group, even though it's like a toxic friend group, period.
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A
The one who's staying in the room outside the house.
- [52:54]
B
Yes, yes.
- [52:55]
A
Oh, yeah. No, but she's definitely, like, losing her mind. Like, and she's also, like, drinking a lot at the other. But there's Definitely dynamics between all three of them, but she is, like, on the edge for sure.
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B
Yeah. And are the other two gonna start talking about Leslie Bibb, or is Leslie Bibb kind of like the.
- [53:09]
A
No, they're definitely gonna start talking about her because she was also being weird. Like there's things to say about her.
- [53:14]
B
Yeah, no, not only that. Like, the Parker Posey thing. Why would you remember spending the weekend with somebody 10 years ago?
- [53:21]
A
No, Parker Posey was weird for that. And why doesn't. Why was she either rude or doesn't remember?
- [53:25]
B
No, and also, well, Parker Posey's on drugs, so that's why she was weird.
- [53:28]
A
They didn't say 10 years ago.
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B
Yes, they did.
- [53:31]
A
Parker Posey said 10 years ago to her family.
- [53:34]
B
Yeah, because that wasn't. Not 10 years ago.
- [53:36]
A
I don't know. She might have just said that to her family to explain why she was being rude. But, like, Leslie Bibb didn't say that.
- [53:41]
B
So I saw a theory that you maybe not don't understand because you didn't watch the second season. But Portia, you know that actress, Haley Jo Richardson?
- [53:48]
A
Who's Portia?
- [53:50]
B
So last season, she played Jennifer Coolidge's, like, personal assistant. I think she gets, like, fired. Whatever. She's that actress, Haley Joel Richardson, the ones who's obsessed with the Jonas Brothers. You know her?
- [54:02]
A
Obsessed with.
- [54:03]
B
You do just, like, look her up. You know her just.
- [54:06]
A
Okay, but you can continue with your theory.
- [54:08]
B
So a lot of people think she looks a lot like the friend and the three. The three friend groups who's staying outside.
- [54:16]
A
Is that Ellie? You mean the daughter?
- [54:19]
B
Yes. And so they're talking about her daughter who's, like, kind of troubled. People think that. That I saw a theory on TikTok that, like, that's Portia, the daughter.
- [54:27]
A
I don't think so. Because they were talking about that girl like, she's five years old and she's like.
- [54:31]
B
That's what I thought.
- [54:31]
A
Also. Yeah, because also. And also, it's not stealing school.
- [54:35]
B
Right, right, right. There's also, like, a theory going around that this.
- [54:43]
A
That theory doesn't work for me. I just want everyone to know, okay.
- [54:46]
B
That this Thailand episode is, like, happening in. At the same time as season two. Like, they're in the same exact time period.
- [54:53]
A
What about Greg?
- [54:55]
B
Well, Greg leaves.
- [54:56]
A
When?
- [54:59]
B
Halfway through Italy for a year. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I guess all these theories don't make sense. Maybe I should stop getting my information from Tick tock. And that's the thing. We're just, like, kind of desperately seeking meaning here. And we didn't even talk about how Mook, who is, like, so gorgeous, I'm obsessed with, is from blackpink. Do you know that the girl. The gorgeous girl who works at the hotel.
- [55:20]
A
No, I didn't know she's from black.
- [55:21]
B
She's a member of blackpink.
- [55:22]
A
What's her name?
- [55:23]
B
Her name is Mook. M O.
- [55:24]
A
Okay, but which Lisa?
- [55:28]
B
Yeah, she's kind of like the biggest one. No.
- [55:31]
A
Yeah. Well, Lisa also has her own solo career. She performed at Victoria's Secret fashion show. How's she doing on this?
- [55:39]
B
She's also a star, and I love that boy. And if she doesn't make that boy her husband, I'm gonna kill her.
- [55:47]
A
Of course. Well, now she's looking at him differently because he had a brush with death.
- [55:51]
B
Now, I did see another theory on Tick Tock that I actually thought was a good theory. Okay, so when the robbery happens, the gate to the hotel is open because one of the employees, Valentin, comes in.
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A
As being chatty, and he's in on it. 100.
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B
Yeah.
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A
100.
- [56:08]
B
Okay. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, I thought I. I didn't get that on my own, but.
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A
And he's, like, telling the guard, like, I'll get you tickets. So there's not gonna be any tickets. And, like, the guard was just, like, excited to be included.
- [56:18]
B
There is no 5K. Like, there is no fight.
- [56:22]
A
There's no fight.
- [56:23]
B
No. The guard is so sweet. Like, I love him so much. There are also some theories that say Lisa from Blackpink is, like, evil and, like, a villain here too, but I don't see it.
- [56:31]
A
No, I don't see it. So then what's the theory about the guy that was at the gate? Like, just that he was Valentine.
- [56:36]
B
That he's in. Oh, I didn't realize, like, that that was obvious that he was in on it.
- [56:42]
A
That was obvious. Yes.
- [56:44]
B
Oh, okay. My bad.
- [56:45]
A
My bad theory about the balding with the. With the girl.
- [56:49]
B
Another theory is that Greg's girlfriend, like, that cool girl who lives up there, it was also in other robbery. Because she's, like, conveniently in the dressing room the whole time.
- [56:58]
A
I guess so. But if she knew the robbery was happening, why would she say, let's go to the store?
- [57:03]
B
Or if she knew the robbery was happening, why would she leave the dressing room like it's safe?
- [57:07]
A
Yeah, yeah. They weren't gonna hurt her.
- [57:09]
B
I don't know what the theory on the Game of Thrones actress and the balding man is, but they're so my least favorite. They're so boring.
- [57:17]
A
Yeah, but what. What's with the balding guy? Like, what does he want?
- [57:20]
B
He's obsessed with the owner's husband.
- [57:22]
A
I don't know.
- [57:23]
B
I don't know.
- [57:25]
A
Who else is there?
- [57:27]
B
Like, I just have questions. No answers.
- [57:29]
A
Yeah. And they're leaving a lot of questions. Like, so they're gonna have a lot to answer for. And then, of course, like, the question, like, who's the shooter now?
- [57:36]
B
We didn't talk a lot about this last week, and I meant to. And then this week, they kind of pulled back on a little bit. The. The Radcliffe siblings, like, wanting to one another. There's, like, a weirdness there. Patrick Schwarzenegger jerking off in front of the little brother. Both the older siblings kind of being obsessed with getting the younger sibling, like, to be their friend. They're, like, giving. Like, they're trying to insinuate something.
- [57:57]
A
It's not my favorite.
- [57:59]
B
It's not my favorite.
- [58:01]
A
Everyone is like, oh, my God, the incest vibes. Oh, my God. Mike White. What? Yeah, it's not my favorite. Like, I'm just, like, not paying attention to it. Even, like, when the two.
- [58:12]
B
Even when he woke up and the tushy.
- [58:13]
A
Was that when they're on the hammock? Like, well, how could you ask me about my sex life? Like, seriously, I'm not paying attention. This is so uninteresting to me.
- [58:20]
B
No, not only that, and, like, I didn't grow up with any brother, so I don't know, like, what's appropriate, but I know that, like, talking to your sister about, like, her losing her virginity is fudgeing weird and disgusting. And I was like, can we stop?
- [58:30]
A
Yeah. And I just, like, even if they are weird and discussing and, like, say the three of them have a threesome, like, I seriously don't care. Like, I'm. I'm don't care.
- [58:37]
B
But that hammock in the ocean, like, that looked amazing. I need the Boca beach club to get one of those. Like, yeah, it looked so parchy.
- [58:43]
A
It did look very peaceful until your little brain comes up and is it being annoying?
- [58:48]
B
So funny. Me and Ben were talking about, like, because we just got back from a hotel, and we were like. Ben was like, that place looks amazing. I'm like, really kind of looks horrible. Like, it's not really a hotel. It's, like, this wellness thing, but it also has, like, a beach. And Ben was like, actually, yeah, I can imagine, like, having a really nice day there. And that's about it. Like, you can't imagine spending a week there.
- [59:07]
A
Yeah. Except the wellness. Like, you could just, like, choose massages, opt out of.
- [59:12]
B
Yeah.
- [59:12]
A
But the, like, it's the first time that it's food.
- [59:17]
B
Right. It's the first time that, like, the show was focused on a property that's, like, not just like a, you know, a hotel for rich people. It's like a wellness therapy retreat. Who gives a. Yeah, I think it makes it worse.
- [59:27]
A
Not my favorite.
- [59:28]
B
Not my favorite.
- [59:29]
A
And then I'm sad for the dad that he's, like, going, I have such.
- [59:33]
B
A pit for him.
- [59:33]
A
I know. Like, and I don't even know him, but I just, like, I want things to work out for him.
- [59:37]
B
Me, too. I'm rooting for him.
- [59:38]
A
I am, Rudy. I don't know why I am, but I'm rooting for him.
- [59:41]
B
Like, he did his friend a favor, and his friend, like, sold him down the river.
- [59:44]
A
Yeah. And I don't know if he's, like, a good guy or a bad guy, but, like, I don't know. I just feel bad that when he goes home, he's going to jail. Like, that's. That's sad.
- [59:50]
B
No, I know. I. That's not even what I feel bad about. Like, he seems so stressed, and he's like, the biggest pit. Like, that's the worst feeling. Like, I feel sad for him that he's feeling that.
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A
You know, when the lady was like, can I take your phone? Like, and on the one hand, like, of course. No, I have to find out, like, if I'm going to jail, but maybe, like, let's find out in seven days.
- [60:08]
B
It wouldn't be so bad. It wouldn't, like, it's happening regardless.
- [60:10]
A
Yeah. But then it's like, if he is going to jail, when he goes home, like, should he just disappear?
- [60:15]
B
Right. He has the advantage of being out of the country.
- [60:18]
A
Yeah.
- [60:20]
B
Now love is blind. Can we transition for a minute into the love is blind recap?
- [60:24]
A
Oh, yeah.
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B
So there are now nine episodes out. We get six pods episodes, One and a half Honduras episodes. And now we're back in where they live, Minnesota, where they've moved into apartments together. They're starting to meet families now. So many crazy, weird things happened. Let's go couple by couple. Jackie Taylor and Daniel Short King and.
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A
Christmas girl and Instagram.
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B
Yeah. So the Insta. Have you seen the Instagram thing play out?
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A
I've seen a clip where she says, like, I saw.
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B
So you haven't seen it. You haven't seen.
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A
Okay. No, no. Oh, my God. I'm literally. I'm still at ibuprofen. Like, stop.
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B
Oh, my God. Okay, so they leave the pods, and they're clearly, like, in a holding space. They're at a hotel. We wouldn't have filmed ever at this hotel. They haven't gone to Honduras yet, but they're just, like, waiting there. And Taylor's like, it, like, came to me, like, where I know him from. He followed me on Instagram. And so she tells producers, and they, like, set up this filming situation where she, like, ambushes him. And, like, in this, like, conference room in a hotel, and she's like, you felt so familiar to me, and I couldn't figure it out. But, like, you followed me on Instagram, and I remember that I looked at your profile and there was a picture of you sitting in front of a Christmas tree with, like, a drink in your hand. Like, I just remember it. And do you have a picture like that on your Instagram? He was like, maybe. I don't know. Like, I have a picture of me, like, sitting in front of a fireplace. Like, she was, like, looking for this one specific photo. Then she's like, there was so much about me in my bio that you could have gleaned that I'm a nurse, that I like Taco Bell, and that I love Christmas. It's like, okay, well, that's a lot of information for your bio, but sure. So she was basically implying that, like, he took these little nuggets about her and made them his whole personality because they're both, like, obsessed with Christmas.
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A
I'm sorry, but if that's what you fell in love over, then your picker was off to begin with.
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B
So she just keeps asking him, like, did you ever follow me on Instagram? Maybe you unfollowed me. And do you have this picture of yourself on your Instagram? And it's like, well, if she just had her phone, we could figure this out. Twenty minutes later, a producer's like, taylor, we're willing to give you back your phone. Do you want it, or do you want to just believe Daniel at face value? She's like, give me my phone. So she gets her phone and she admits, which is so embarrassing, that she has, like, that Unfollow app where you can see who unfollowed you.
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A
Because it work.
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B
Yeah, because, like, he obviously doesn't follow her right now, but he probably did. So we sit there, phone back. No, no. But it's possible that he followed and unfollowed her before going into the pods.
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A
Why would he. How would he know she's going on the pods?
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B
Jackie, the Whole thing made no sense. Just wait.
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A
Okay, I'm listening. But this.
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B
And by the way, he's acting so guilty. Like, she's like, if I open my phone and, like, see you there on that Unfollow app. Like, he's like, that's the craziest part.
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A
Of this story that she has.
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B
She's like, well, he's like, well, you might like, I don't remember. I don't know what you're talking about. He kept saying, I don't remember, I don't remember. Like, so guilty, right?
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A
But, like, I guess he probably just follows a lot of random girls and doesn't want to cop to that.
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B
Jackie. They make us watch in silence. She scrolls through all the people who haven't followed her over the years, and she actually makes a joke, being like, damn, I lost a lot of followers, scrolling, scrolling, scrolling, only for her to not find him there. And that's it. That's the whole scandal. And I don't know if it comes back, but now I'm at episode nine and it's been buried.
- [63:40]
A
Like, what?
- [63:43]
B
Yeah, meaning the parents. It's going really well. It wasn't a thing.
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A
Oh, my God.
- [63:48]
B
She literally made it up.
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A
I. I don't know, but she seems like. Like a little paranoid. Plus, she has the Unfollow app and she's a little Instagram craz. Just doesn't bode well.
- [63:59]
B
Yeah, it was so cringe because, oh, my gosh, she's making a big deal out of it and then it turns out not to be true. But he was acting so guilty, the whole thing, and he was like, well, if you don't want to go to Honduras, like, it's fine. He wasn't mad at her at all. It was weird.
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A
That is so weird.
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B
Yeah. So then they end up, like, actually being a cute couple. His parents are, like, so in love with her. They love it so much. Her parents hate this whole thing, but still agree to be on camera. The parents, actually, both sets of parents get together, it ends up, like, being fine. I actually think, like, they have a shot in hell. I do. Next couple I want to talk about is Virginia and Ibuprofen. I actually really like them. I think that they had good chemistry and they have a good time in Honduras, but a lot of their storyline is now about money. She's a little bit older. She does pretty well. She has, like, a house, and she's just been talking about a prenup, and he doesn't really object to it. She's just like, listen, like, why not? There's literally no downside. And then when his parents, like, hear about it they're definitely, like, weirded out by it. Because I hate when people are like, well, why are you quitting this marriage before it even starts? Like, shut up. Like, I just hate that, like, a prenup is, like, especially, like, for a woman of a certain age who's, like, built up a life for herself especially.
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A
Getting married in this way. Like, it's a gamble. Of course it's a gamble.
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B
Of course it is. So they're, like, quiet. I don't know if they have, like, the great love of our lives. Like, I. I don't think so, but I could.
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A
Like, there's. There.
- [65:20]
B
Don't give me any red flags. They're just, like, boring.
- [65:22]
A
Yeah. Sometimes it's like we're just trying to make it till the end. Don't notice us.
- [65:25]
B
Yeah, right. Right. And then there's Joey and Monica who, like, are. You can't not notice. They are beaming with personality. All they do is laugh and giggle. The sock bin. The sock bin. She tells this story that, like, one of the weird. It's so funny. Every family, like, has their thing, right? Like. And, like, her family's thing is that, like, growing up, like, how, you know, you go into your room you have a drawer for your undies and socks. Like, her family didn't have individual, like, drawers for socks. They had this one laundry basket, like, full of socks. And when you needed socks, he would just, like, go to the sock bin, you know?
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A
Okay.
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B
He can't get over it. He can't get over how weird this is. He thinks it's the craziest thing ever. They talk about it all the time. When he goes to her house to meet her parents, he requires. He says, I need to see the soccer man. It's seriously so funny. So they're having, like, a lot of fun and, like, all is good. But there is something weird that goes on with Monica's family. Monica has a sister. So it's Monica's parents. Monica, Monica's sister and Monica's sister's boyfriend. And they share that. Like, Monica's sister's boyfriend and her met because he actually was talking to Monica. And then Monica was like, I actually think you would like my sister. So they didn't, like, date or. But, like, they were. You know, they met. That's kind of romantically. It was. Yeah. It actually made Monica look really good.
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A
Yeah.
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B
But it becomes very clear that there's, like. Like, a weird relationship between her and her sister. Like, the sister feels threatened or. And, like, you know, Monica would be getting married now before the sister. And Joey actually says because the sister. The sister had a problem with Joey, you know, Like, I don't know. I don't think he's good for you or whatever. And it's like, there's nothing wrong with him, you know? So they're recapping afterwards, and Monica's like, yeah. She just, like, always has problems with people I bring home. Like, don't take it personally. And he's, like, asking more about that. And he just very boldly was like, do you think your sister's jealous of you? And, like, she so is. Like, it was. So he kind of diagnosed this family perfectly. And it was very brave. And Monica was like, oh, I don't know. I never thought about it that way. Like, maybe because of the weirdness.
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A
Crazy question.
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B
Yeah.
- [67:23]
A
Like, what does she look like?
- [67:25]
B
Like, Monica's prettier than her too. Okay, so Joey just sort of, like, said something extremely brave.
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A
Yeah.
- [67:32]
B
But also 100 correct. Because it was such a weird vibe. And Monica's so, like, really very lovely girl. Very positive. Laughing. But there's, like, a weird vibe with the sister. And we're like, what's going on? And then Joey said it. I'm like, oh, yeah, that's it.
- [67:44]
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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B
Especially because, like, her boyfriend used to like Monica. It's weird.
- [67:47]
A
Yeah.
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B
But then in the trailer, it seems like Joey stops being so into Monica. Like, right now they're in a good place. But she just. In the trailer, she's like, I feel like I like him more than me.
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A
I feel like the trailers are so misleading. Like, remember when they had us thinking that Jimmy slept with Jessica after he was with Chelsea and it turned out it was just about his girlfriend from the past? Like, his friend girl. There's so much.
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B
She probably was talking to someone, just.
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A
Being like, I feel like I like him more than me. I feel like I like him more than just like me just because I like him so much.
- [68:17]
B
Like, yeah, okay, fine, fine, fine. That means. Yeah, because I actually think that they're a good couple. And they, like, actually make me and Ben laugh. Like, they're. They're really, really sweet with one another and they're one of the few couples that had sex. So I'm gonna cut to Dave and Lauren next and we'll get into, like, their whole thing.
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A
That's like the arsehole and. And the nurse.
- [68:35]
B
Yeah, the arsehole and the nurse. So when they're in Honduras. They get together one time with the whole group.
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A
Dave and Lauren.
- [68:43]
B
Yeah, everyone. No, the whole group gets together.
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A
Have we moved on?
- [68:47]
B
Yeah, I'm moving on. Okay.
- [68:48]
A
Consider us moved on.
- [68:50]
B
So, Dave, when they get together, Dave has told us. I hate, like, that they wake up after the first night and they don't just tell us if they had sex or not. Like, I'm sorry, I know it's, like, invasive, but you should have to tell us. Like, I'm curious. They don't. And me and Ben are, like, guessing. You know, you can tell a little bit. Dave, when they all get together, goes up to every single person, is like, you.
- [69:10]
A
There's always.
- [69:11]
B
I really appreciate it. I was curious. I would never do it. But he wasn't having sex, so I think he wanted to make sure.
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A
Like, is this normal?
- [69:20]
B
Yeah.
- [69:20]
A
Yeah, yeah.
- [69:21]
B
So what we find out is that the liberal and the Christian, that's. I can't remember anyone's names.
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A
Oh, the girl and the guy.
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B
Gay sister and Christian.
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A
Every week, but with his face.
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B
But I barely believe in God, social causes and church. They had sex, which I found really shocking. Joey and Monica had sex.
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A
Okay.
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B
And I think that's it. Dave and Lauren did not.
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A
Virginia.
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B
Virginia did not. Those are all the couples, right?
- [69:53]
A
No. Oh, Shorty.
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B
They did not. Because they were working through, like, that weird Instagram thing. Like, even though after that she should have just, like, you know, to talk about something else. She should have just started so that she would. He would forget that weird thing she did.
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A
Shorty.
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B
So at first, I'm, like, liking Dave because I feel like maybe he was misunderstood a little bit in the pods because he was being, like, an arsenal and artists in the pods that he was being really sweet with Lauren about, like, you know, whenever you're ready to have sex, like, take your time. Like, he was being very patient.
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A
Okay.
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B
But then they get back to Minneapolis and things immediately go wrong. Because it turns out that, like, before the trip. Excuse me. Before the pods, Lauren was, like, seeing a guy, like, very casually. Like, probably just, you know. And I think they hung out, like, maybe a week before she left for the pods. And this guy is actually kind of connected to Dave and his friends. So Dave's friends, they're like, mutual friends. It's a small town. I love that Dave's friends tell Dave being like, yo.
- [70:54]
A
I mean, I love that for the teacher, right? Like, you didn't know the teacher had it in her.
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B
So Dave's friends are like, Lauren is, like, seeing someone. They're really trying to make it nefarious. And so Lauren's like, back is up against the wall. She's like, kind of being forced to explain this. Like, like she just was having sex. And she does. She was like, okay, yeah. Like, we hung out like a couple of times. He actually used to date this, like, girl that we worked with. Like, we got ice cream. Like, she was just, like, forced to share, like, sort of uncomfortable parts of this thing. Like, nobody wants to admit that they were just like some guy. And he is just, like, so disturbed by it. He can't get over it. And he doesn't believe her. He believes his friends who are saying, like, she was in a full blown relationship with this grifter before the trip and wanted to become famous. Like, and she's like, literally having to defend herself so hard. And it just like, doesn't go away because he's like, acting weird for like a whole week. And he's like, it's this thing with the guy. I can't. And the guy lives in the building that they just moved into. What? It's like, it's a huge building and it's a small town. So it's like she's. They're supposed to, like, you know, get. Get their friends and family together. But, like, it gets canceled because, like, they just keep fighting about it. And it's becoming very clear because there's nothing here. It's so she's not like that. You can tell she's. It's so nothing. But he doesn't stop.
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A
And now.
- [72:12]
B
Yeah. And he's like, well, my sister knows about it now. And he's been, like, obsessed with his.
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A
Sister, even in the pods. My sister likes that music too.
- [72:18]
B
Yeah. And my sister and I kiss.
- [72:20]
A
Like, I think you really get along with my sister.
- [72:25]
B
Yeah. We also use tongue. Like, they're seriously, like something weird going on with the sister. And then when the sister hears, the sister's already skeptical about this whole process and about Lauren in general, but the sister hears rumor about.
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A
Skeptical about the process because Dave told me.
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B
And once the sister hears about this big scandal, it's like setting them back so much. And it's like Lauren is really well meaning and he is not. And it's actually painful to watch her, like, defend herself so hard and just be like, not believed. And he's like, I don't. He literally will say, I don't believe you. He's like, I believe my friends.
- [72:56]
A
Well, yeah, you have to trust the person that you're with. And even if you have nothing to go on like, you have to believe that them until they give you a reason not to. So if he can't do that relationship.
- [73:06]
B
So they need to break up immediately. In this previews, Molly comes and you know, he sees Molly. Yeah, he sees Molly. A lot of theories that, like, he looked up Molly on Instagram. But I don't think that Lauren and Molly are so different looking that you would look and be like, oh, I gotta leave Lauren to get to Molly. They're both very pretty girls. Like, they're not one more extraordinary than the other.
- [73:25]
A
Yeah. But I think it's just someone who's like, just. Just wants his cake and eat it too. Like, he's always going to be looking at the next thing. So unless, like, the other girl was like, much less attractive, he was always gonna be like, hey, what's going on over there? That's like the other people. Oh, what's going on with Ben Platt?
- [73:44]
B
Oh, you'll have to wait and see. Can I tell you?
- [73:47]
A
No, but you haven't even mentioned.
- [73:48]
B
Please let me tell you.
- [73:49]
A
You haven't even mentioned him.
- [73:50]
B
Can I tell you this girl? Can I tell you about and Platt?
- [73:53]
A
Yeah.
- [73:54]
B
So Madison breaks up with Mason because, like, her number one is Ben Platt. And they, like, have more dreadful conversations. And then he's like, nah, not proposing. Yeah. Like, they get to an inflection point and he's like, I just don't think, like, we're good for each other. And she's like, what? I broke up with Mason. And he actually said, like, the Mason thing had a lot to do with it. Like, she just was so high and mighty and, like, like, really weird about it. And she didn't like how he treated. How she treated Mason in that moment.
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A
Wait, I don't feel like she did that.
- [74:28]
B
Oh, I thought she did. I thought she was being really weird with Mason. Being like, you played two girls, you.
- [74:32]
A
Don'T even like it. Sorry, I haven't gotten to that part yet. But so far I actually have respect for her that, like.
- [74:36]
B
No, when she breaks up with Mason, like, I saw a totally different side of her.
- [74:39]
A
Oh, okay. Because right now I'm like, usually people drag the two till the end because they're just sort of like playing both odds. And I actually like the. That she broke up with one and, like, made a strong choice for a better.
- [74:50]
B
But I've never seen. I've never seen it that, like, you make a strong choice and then you don't end up with that guy.
- [74:55]
A
Yeah. Because that. He's saying no, that's really crazy. Like, I actually like the fact that she like, early on was like, I'm going with Ben. And I guess. I guess she did like and throw the other girl under the bus, but I haven't gotten there yet.
- [75:07]
B
So they're not in Honduras. They're not a factor anymore. Even though they show up to this party next week. Mason and Blonde Meg also show up to the party. Oh, well, no, not together. No.
- [75:19]
A
No. But they'll see each other.
- [75:20]
B
They'll see each other. And I actually got from the trailer that they had, like, connected already. Like, it was. I don't think it was the first time. I think that they, like, are seeing each other. It's just like a vibe I love.
- [75:30]
A
When there's a party.
- [75:32]
B
So the last couple. And the episode kind of ends with this tick tock drama. And it's about church man and social causes. And so she's sitting on the couch and like everything. They're probably in the best spot. Like, everything's going really well from them. They're having. They're having great sex. He, you know, brings his whole group of friends to meet her and they're like a really diverse group. Like, it was just what she needed, you know, like, no, like, for real. Like, one of the girls there was lesbian. And I think that was like, he really a relief for, like, wow, one of your best friends who you talk about religion with is gay. Like, it was really going well. And I was like, you know what? Maybe these two have a future. She's sitting on the couch and she's like scrolling on her phone. She goes, oh, my God. And at first I thought it was, like, going to be gossip, juicy, like, not about her. And apparently while this was happening in real time, so like a year ago, everyone in Minneapolis was talking about the fact that the love is blind people. It's a small town.
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A
Yeah.
- [76:22]
B
So like that the cast is, you know, coupled up living in this apartment building and this TikTok goes viral of a girl crying. Being like, I'm so sick of love is blind casting. These terrible men who do terrible things, like kind of using very strong words. She doesn't exactly say who it is or what he did, but just being like, I'm sick of it. Netflix giving a platform to these people. So very quickly, the investigators start investigating. And it's church boy Ben. Is that his name? Yeah. That's not Ben Plat. Yeah. Okay. And then other people start sharing their stories. Now he hasn't been accused of any great crime. Like, she was definitely using A lot of euphemisms, like, she was just being exaggerating. But basically, he's like a dick. You know, he, like, you know, dates a lot of girls, says he wants a relationship, then never hears from you again after he has sex with you. Like, nothing criminal, but, you know, not good guy that you want to bring home to mother behavior. And then a lot of girls are like, oh, my God, I dated him too. And we went home together. Like, it was kind of giving. Remember, like, West Elm Caleb?
- [77:24]
A
Yeah, yeah.
- [77:25]
B
Like, just like a viral guy in a city who, like, dates a lot of girls and, like, promises them the world, and then they have sex and you never hear from them again. And Sarah is in this unique spot because she's like, her social cause, like, she's like, well, I'm not going to invalidate this woman's experience. You know, she. But, you know, there's no proof. I'm not going to also write off my fiance because of this one video where she doesn't really say what you did.
- [77:49]
A
Right.
- [77:50]
B
And so he was like. She was like, have you seen this? Tick tock. And he's like, yeah, he had already seen it, so he must have had, like, the biggest pit until she saw it. And she's like, do you know this person? He's like, yeah, kind of like, we dated four years ago. And she's asking him questions about the relationship. Like, did you ghost her? Did you have sex with her? And he's like, no, I didn't have sex with her. I can't remember if I ghosted her. She's like, you don't remember? And so she's, like, grilling him. She. She's really trying to straddle the line between, like, not invalidating this other woman's experience while also holding space for, like, it could be a lie. And this is my fiance, and I like him, but I also need to do proper digging. And so she said at the end of the episode, right before they cut, was like, like, I believe you. But, like, if I hear anything else, so if there's anything else you want to fess up, like, let me know. Because if I hear something else, like, I'm gonna be pissed.
- [78:36]
A
Yeah.
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B
And I do think in future episodes because, like, the tick tock blows up and other girls start coming out, I think it becomes a much bigger thing.
- [78:44]
A
Okay.
- [78:45]
B
Yeah.
- [78:46]
A
Well, I look forward to hopefully getting there one day, maybe next year at the rate I'm going.
- [78:52]
B
But if I were you, seriously, like, fast? No. When the new episodes come out, like, just Join me.
- [78:58]
A
No, you know what? Maybe I'll just start watching Honduras now. Like, because I want to see that. That's fun.
- [79:03]
B
No, you need to see Taylor scrolling through the Unfollow app.
- [79:06]
A
That's Honduras.
- [79:08]
B
No, it's before Honduras.
- [79:09]
A
Okay, I'll skip to the end of the pods. But I do like to see people's reaction when they see each other, because I just know, like.
- [79:15]
B
Yeah, you do. You do just know.
- [79:17]
A
Like, was anybody. Is there a physical, like, issue between anyone where it's like, someone.
- [79:22]
B
No, please. Where sometimes, like, it's so obvious that somebody finds the other person so ugly that, like, they can't go on.
- [79:28]
A
Or sometimes it's, like, so obvious that someone is more attractive than the other person. And it's like, even if they're not acting like it, it's like, well, we.
- [79:35]
B
All know a thousand percent. No, there's nothing like that. That's what. Everyone's very ordinary. And I saw Nicole Byer talking about this on a podcast, and I had said it, like, she said it in a much funnier way, but she's like, throw some ugly fatties in there. Like, it's really. You're like, is love blind? And everybody looks the same. Well, we don't know. Yeah, like, it's really. It's only really interesting when it comes, like, the blind love experiment, when there are people of varying degrees of sexiness. Like, I'm sorry. Yeah, everybody on this cast is equally good looking. Yeah.
- [80:05]
A
This isn't a question of, like, is love blind? I mean, the show never actually sets out to answer that question because sometimes yes, sometimes no. Like, love is not blind. And when you're in a pod, like, you're really just talking to yourself. Like, it's actually, like, yeah, some people have found relationships, like, coincidentally, but it's not because, like, love is so blind. Like, because then you could have the same conversation with someone in person. And just, like, the way that people speak, it's not even about what they look like, how they move their hands, how they, you know, squat over, like, who am I? How they squat over, like, they're a table. You're blind. You're loved.
- [80:40]
B
No, love.
- [80:42]
A
You are love. Being blind.
- [80:45]
B
So new episodes come out in four days. You have four days to catch up.
- [80:48]
A
Oh, my gosh. Well, why? It comes out on Friday the 28th, I think. Wouldn't I also get the weekend then? It's a weekend.
- [80:57]
B
Okay, that's good. Yeah, they do it on the. On Friday, and I literally forgot.
- [81:01]
A
Like, I have to read a 600 page book for the redhead. So like, it's not the freaking weekend. Okay. And it's only Monday.
- [81:09]
B
Okay, well, on that note, thanks.
- [81:11]
A
Yeah.
- [81:11]
B
But should we wrap up?
- [81:13]
A
Yeah, we should. So I could start reading.
- [81:15]
B
Thank you guys so much for listening to the toast of Monday morning show where we deliver the fastest stories you need to know every Monday through Friday and YouTube. So watching us on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe and give this video a thumbs up. We're also available as a podcast anywhere podcasts can be found so that Spotify, itunes, Stitch or public radio. I hear radio castbox all the places Webby listen to podcast my NASA Toastly a five star review about a beautiful, about a stunning and about how kidly talented we are.
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A
Love you. Goodbye. I have given up on hard hands. Now that I couldn't even do it with a mom.
- [81:39]
B
Now that you see that you're the problem.
- [81:40]
A
I couldn't even do it with a monitor and video proof.
- [81:43]
B
And I'm so glad everybody was able to see it. They said yes, Jackie is the problem.
- [81:46]
A
Something that's just as important as never giving up on your dreams is also giving up on your dreams when you realize they're out of your reach.
- [81:54]
B
They're not realistic. Yeah, I love that.
- [81:56]
A
So goodbye.
- [81:57]
B
That note.
- [81:58]
A
On that note. Love ya. We could both go like this. Love ya. Bye. Love you. Bye.