Soundmakers of The Century: Thursday, September 4th, 2025

Summary

The Toast — September 4th, 2025

Episode Title: "Soundmakers of The Century"
Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry
Date: September 4, 2025

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Episode Overview

Jackie and Claudia ("Jax" and "Claude") are back after Labor Day, bringing the beloved, witty chaos of The Toast to a short workweek. This episode dives into their viral, sound-making influence, current pop culture moments (especially tennis and TikTok), updates in celebrity and influencer industries, relatable hot takes on motherhood and wellness, and big fashion news—peppered with hilarious transparency about their personal lives.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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Labor Day & Short Week Celebration

[00:26–01:19]

• Jackie and Claudia riff about the joy of a post-Labor Day, four-day week, praising the "founding fathers" for this much-needed transitional holiday.
• Jackie: "Our founding fathers ate with that one... Like, to ease back into work, it has to be a four-day week."
• They revel in being back with the Toasters community, noticing more recognition and connection with fans, even at big events like the US Open.

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Tennis Fever: The Spritz Brothers at the US Open

[01:43–03:57]

• Claudia is obsessed with the doubles team of J.J. Tracy and Robert Cash—dubbed the "Spritz Brothers"—backed by the show’s fans (“The Toasters”), noting their surprise success and viral following.
  • Claudia: "I had to download ESPN Plus, I pay $29 a month now... I'm sure they're like, what's with this uptick in interest? Well, obviously, the Toasters are behind it." [02:09]
• Jackie jokes that "a split Fritz athlete has never lost a game," adding playful superstition to their streak.
• Claudia also updates on the singles scene, explaining the sudden rise of Yannick Sinner: "It’s this guy... who I've literally never heard of. Happy for him." [03:22]

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Meghan Markle PR Drop: "With Love, Megan" Goodies

[04:02–06:16]

• The duo discusses Meghan Markle’s new PR mailer: sweet treats, "with love, Megan" branded napkins (which Claudia finds slightly unnecessary), and pink baking pans from Our Place.
• Jackie is still awaiting her package but hyped up. Both contemplate doing a Patreon baking session using the jam and the provided "fingerprint cookies" recipe card.
• Claudia on the gifting: "Not to complain... it was apricot [jam]. You guys know me... I really only fudge with strawberry." [05:21]

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The Toast’s Viral Influence & "Soundmaking" Legacy

[06:17–08:28]

• Huge moment: Alex Earl uses their podcast audio ("sound") on TikTok—major validation for the sisters as creators of repeatable, viral content.
  • "We can add that to our resume of 'viral sound makers.'" — Jackie [07:21]
  • Claudia dubs them "soundmakers," likening their audio virality to DJs and remixers.
• The Toast’s reach: big celebs (like Renee Zellweger) have previously used their sound bites.

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Health Chat: Mucinex, Ozempic, and Emily Oster on Parenting Wellness

[08:36–14:17]

Mucinex/Erections & Breastfeeding [08:36–10:23]:

• Claudia recommends Mucinex to Jackie for her cough, revealing a notorious side effect: "Mucinex D gave Ben a 12-hour erection." [09:14]
• They discuss Jackie's pregnancy-induced medicine caution.

Emily Oster Q&A — Weight Loss & Breastfeeding [10:23–13:56]:

• Claudia spotlights Emily Oster (economist, data-driven bestselling parenting expert) clarifying safety on weight-loss drugs (like Ozempic/GLP-1s) for breastfeeding women.
  • Oster’s guidance: No strong data suggests harm for baby; it's about maternal caloric intake and timing.
  • "Best and most recent data... really doesn’t suggest these medications pass through at meaningful levels in the breast milk." — Emily Oster (via Claudia) [11:23]
• Claudia: Deeply relieved, weighs public scrutiny of body/weight as a new mom, noting the paradox that she felt more accepted by brands when thin, but more beloved online now as "fat and non-threatening." [13:20]

Prenatal Vitamins Recall [15:00–16:56]:

• Jackie broke the internet by not currently taking prenatal vitamins—after hers were recalled.
• Both recount how the widely-used, major-brand prenatals had a recall, causing stress and shifting to food-based nutrition ("I'll eat more fish... that's crazy.").

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Celebrity Couple News & Gossip

[18:24–39:29]

Powerball & Fandom [18:24–18:51]:

• Banter about big Powerball jackpots and the dream (and letdown) of almost winning.

Yannick Sinner’s Love Life [18:24–19:15]:

• Brooks Nader is rumored to be dating rising tennis star Yannick Sinner.

Dancing With The Stars [19:28–20:57]:

• With Alex Earl using their audio, Claudia is officially going to watch Dancing with the Stars. They speculate on possible winners—Alex Earl or Whitney, projecting "synergy" with Hulu/Disney/ABC networks.

Kelly Clarkson Updates [25:51–29:59]:

• Clarkson’s talk show is back; the hosts predict a future memoir will be iconic, ponder possible titles (e.g. "Breakaway: The Kelly Clarkson Story").
• Jackie: "American Idol set out to find the best voice in the nation. Literally, they crushed it season one." [27:51]

Wuthering Heights Film & Film Adaptations [30:09–34:55]:

• Trailer talk: Jacob Elordi and Margot Robbie star in a steamy, updated Wuthering Heights (soundtrack by Charli XCX).
  • Both skeptical about "yassifying" classics but impressed by the trailer’s mood.
• Rapid-fire anticipation for a new Downton Abbey movie centered around Mary’s divorce.

Harry Styles & Zoe Kravitz Spotted Together [35:14–37:56]:

• New couple alert; musings on Zoe Kravitz moving from Austin Butler to Harry Styles and the continued interconnectedness of elite celebrity dating circles.
• Sidebar: Olivia Wilde’s off-grid status post-Harry Styles romance drama is discussed.

Bethenny Frankel’s Dating News [39:12–42:21]:

• Bethenny reveals on her podcast she previously dated Jennifer Aniston’s new boyfriend, Jim Curtis, supporting the match and providing behind-the-curtain wellness industry commentary.

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The Fashion Industry’s Perils: Sofia Richie’s Clothing Line

[45:34–52:28]

• Sofia Richie Grange teases her new label, SRG Atelier. The sisters debate whether even the most stylish, "it-girls" can truly succeed in launching fashion brands.
  • Claudia: "Even the best, the biggest... everybody’s clothing lines flop. Like, it’s literally impossible to do." [45:55]
• They walk through failed/strained influencer brands, dissecting Molly-Mae’s struggles with ‘Maybe’, the high bar for inclusivity, ethics, and the headaches for creators.
• They praise rare winners like Bridget’s The Bar and Morgan Stewart’s Renly.
• Jackie: "There is so much [fashion] out there."
• Both skeptical, yet eager to see Sofia’s designs; hope she'll set a trend toward "modesty and class" in fashion.
  • Jackie: "Just like with her wedding, that inspired other girls to be modest in class, I hope this has the same effect." [52:24]
• They brainstorm a "Yardstick" modest clothing brand.
  • Jackie: "She should call her label Yardstick and everything will pass the test." [53:03]

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TV & Recap Segment

[53:33–60:11]

Summer I Turned Pretty [53:33–54:26]:

• Claudia hates the direction of the show: "I wish all the characters... would just, like, never see each other again." [53:42]
• Jackie vows to boycott after her favorite character was written out.

Real Housewives of Miami [54:37–61:10]:

• Jackie deep dives into Stephanie’s arrival, her wealth, the private jet drama, and allies/enemies among the cast.
• Production behind the scenes: debates about filming logistics and how personalities clash in trips to Seville and Marbella.
• Both agree that new housewives or friends with real resources (planes, style) add value, but personality is key for audience connection.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

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• "Our founding fathers ate with that one... Like, to ease back into work, it has to be a four-day week."
  — Jackie, [00:35]
• "I had to download ESPN Plus, I pay $29 a month now... I'm sure they're like, what's with this uptick in interest? Well, obviously, the Toasters are behind it."
  — Claudia, [02:09]
• "A split Fritz athlete has never lost a game."
  — Jackie, [02:42]
• "We can add that to our resume of viral sound makers."
  — Jackie, [07:21]
• "Mucinex did give Ben a 12-hour erection. So just letting you know. Mucinex D, emphasis on the D."
  — Claudia, [09:09]
• "Best and most recent data... really doesn’t suggest these medications pass through at meaningful levels in the breast milk."
  — Emily Oster (cited by Claudia), [11:23]
• "When I got really skinny, I felt like I definitely had more work opportunities…. But people hate you because you have an amazing personality and you’re skinny. Now that I’m fat again, people like me again... They love a fat btch."*
  — Claudia, [13:20]
• "I was the one who told you [your] prenatals were recalled… Next thing I know, I’m shitting orange."
  — Claudia, [16:00]
• "Powerball… now that's the sort of winnings that will ruin your life, you know, because you get big ideas. You forget about the tax man."
  — Jackie, [18:13]
• "Kelly Clarkson is a dream guest on this show, even though we, like, don't do guests… when she writes the memoir."
  — Claudia, [28:21]
• "The yassification of Wuthering Heights."
  — Jackie [30:58]
• "All the money that [Whitney Port] made from The Hills, she put into her clothing line. And, like, zero."
  — Jackie, [50:32]
• "She should call her label Yardstick and everything will pass the test."
  — Jackie, [53:08]
• "I wish all the characters on [Summer I Turned Pretty] would just, like, never see each other again so I didn't have to watch them."
  — Claudia, [53:36]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Labor Day + Back to Work — [00:26–01:19]
• US Open & Tennis Obsession — [01:43–03:57]
• Meghan Markle PR Package — [04:02–06:16]
• Viral Soundmaking & TikTok — [06:17–08:28]
• Jackie’s Prenatal Drama — [15:00–16:56]
• Kelly Clarkson News & Memoir Speculation — [25:51–29:59]
• Wuthering Heights/Film Adaptations — [30:09–34:55]
• Harry Styles/Zoe Kravitz Couple — [35:14–37:56]
• Bethenny Frankel & Jennifer Aniston's New Man — [39:12–42:21]
• Sofia Richie’s SRG Atelier — [45:34–52:28]
• ‘Summer I Turned Pretty’/Housewives TV — [53:33–60:11]

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Summary for Non-Listeners

This episode encapsulates what longtime Toast listeners love: vibrant sisterly banter, unfiltered responses to viral culture, and genuine reflections on the weirdness and pressure of public life. Personal health, viral audio fame, PR gifting wars, influencer pitfalls (especially in fashion), and the ever-pervasive world of celebrity coupling are taken as seriously as necessary—with ample comedic asides. If you missed it, you missed a rollicking romp through the highs, lows, and lemons (or at least lemon water) of millennial pop culture.

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End of Summary

Transcript

[Jackie]

Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast. It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host.

[Turo]

It's your favorite show.

[Jackie]

The Fast 5 things you need to know.

[Turo]

We'll start your day off swirly. It's the Toast.

[Jackie]

They sound amazing.

[Turo]

Welcome back to the Toast and happy Thursday. That really doesn't feel like it because we haven't even acknowledged the fact that of course, we came back to work on a short work week. God bless Labor Day. Hey, Jax, how you doing?

[Jackie]

I'm doing good. And I just want to say our founding fathers ate with that one too, because I think that they knew after summer, like, to ease back into work. Like, it has to be a four day week. If this were a five day week, it would be more challenging. And this four day week, the fact that it's Thursday is like the biggest, best, the highlight of the day today. It's insane. It's, like, so unearned, but so needed.

[Turo]

Yeah. Sometimes you'll get a national holiday and it's like, okay, you know, I didn't need it, but I'll take it very much. Like Columbus Day Sl. Indigenous People's Day. Like, it's in the midst of holiday craziness. Like, I don't need it, but I'll take it. And then sometimes you get like you're in the desert.

[Jackie]

You know, it's a cold drink.

[Turo]

Exact. A mirage, if you will, in the.

[Jackie]

Middle of a hot, dry desert. And that's what we needed. And it's been a great week so far. Toast is back. Your girls are back. It's just.

[Turo]

It's been amazing.

[Jackie]

Things feel right, Turo?

[Turo]

I, like, saw a couple of toasters in the street. And also at the US Open, everybody's like, are you so happy to be back? I'm like, yeah. And I'm not even lying. Like, I'm so happy to be back.

[Jackie]

Yeah. No, it's. It. It feels good. It feels good.

[Turo]

Now, I have a list of things I need to chat with you about before we dive into today's show. And I have a list, so I. Four things, if you'll allow me.

[Jackie]

Okay.

[Turo]

The first is we have to talk about what went down at the US Open last night. The Spritz brothers, they won again. The Spritz brethren.

[Jackie]

Tracy.

[Turo]

Brother. Brother Tracy. Like, J.J. tracy and Bob Cash almost said Bob Ross. This doubles team, you know, relatively new, that we sponsored, like, they just keep winning. They beat another, like, top 10 team yesterday. They're just these, like, two young guys crushing it. And I love that, like, everyone's now watching, I'm sure. I wonder if, like, ESPN is curious, why this, like, random? Because I had to download ESPN Plus, I paid $20 a month now. 29, actually, which I thought was pretty to watch a match. And I'm sure they're like, what's with this uptick in interest in this, you know, random round of men's doubles? Well, obviously, the Toasters are behind it. They're playing again today. And I think if they make. If they win this one, it's the finals, which I will be going.

[Jackie]

And I just want to say a split Fritz athlete has never lost a game.

[Turo]

Chills.

[Jackie]

Just something to think about that is statistically true in this moment. No.

[Turo]

And, like, I'm getting.

[Jackie]

Athlete never loses.

[Turo]

I'm getting so into tennis. I'm literally. Paige Lorettons. Like, serious. Like, just obsessed. Like, like, like, I get home and I'm like, we have to watch. And I know everything. You know what I mean?

[Jackie]

So who's going to win the men's. Who won last night? Who's winning? I'm not watching.

[Turo]

So it's so funny that you brought that up, because me and Ben were talking about, like, the top players and obviously, like, Djokovic, who beat Fritz, Djokovic, 1. And then Alcaraz is just crushing. And they're ranked, like, 2, 3, 4, 5. And, like, wait, who's ranked number one? And it's this guy named Sinner, who I've literally never heard of. Happy for him. Everybody's really excited. He is playing tomorrow. Yeah. So he's in. And then this guy from Canada who's ranked, like, 25th, but he's kind of the underdog. He's made it so far, and everybody's, like, loving him.

[Jackie]

What about that?

[Turo]

What about. So, yeah, Yannick Sinner, but who cares about that? I'm on to doubles.

[Jackie]

Like, heard of him. I just want to say I've heard of Yannick.

[Turo]

Okay. Paige. Yeah. You've heard of Yannick.

[Jackie]

I'm pretty sure I have. I don't know in what context, but, like, that the name feels familiar.

[Turo]

Second thing I need to talk about. Did you get your mail yesterday?

[Jackie]

No, I didn't, but I saw that you did, and you got. With love, Megan, pr And I just need you guys to know, like, if you thought I wasn't getting it, it is on its way to me.

[Turo]

So it was. They reached out dually to both of.

[Jackie]

Us at the same time, not to the girl who clowned on the show. And by the way, whenever that show did Come out. I don't know how you guys remember it, but nobody was more supportive than.

[Turo]

Me a thousand percent. That's why we're on the PR list.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Turo]

So I got. And it's a party pr. I don't want to ruin it for you, but I do want to share with the listeners that what Megan is sending out. I didn't even post all of it.

[Jackie]

Oh. Because I saw what you posted.

[Turo]

So, yeah, it's two boxes and in one box is like, you know, Megan, ink as ever. Jam, shortbread cookie, a bunch of napkins that say with love, Meghan on it. Which like, no offense, I don't know why I need that, but I'll, I'll take it. A spatula that says with love, Megan. And then there was a second box of baking pans for. From our place, which is that brand everybody loves. They're pink and they're actually perfect because Ben needs like bread scented. Exactly. So it was really a high class affair.

[Jackie]

And I got the jam cooking with pink pans.

[Turo]

I don't know. I got the jam and like, not to complain because I'm obviously really grateful to be on the PR list. It was apricot.

[Jackie]

Oh, man.

[Turo]

You guys know something about me. Like, I really only fudge with strawberry and maybe raspberry if I have to.

[Jackie]

Blueberry would be fine.

[Turo]

No, it wouldn't. Like, apricot is just like, she might as well give me dirty. No, I'm very jam specific.

[Jackie]

I understand. Well, I'm so looking forward to getting. I think we should do a patreon of us like baking some of this stuff well.

[Turo]

Oh. So they also set like a recipe placard that I'm literally framing. It's like from Meghan of how to make the shortbread cookies that she, she sent like her company makes like a shortbread mix.

[Jackie]

Yeah, Mix.

[Turo]

Yes. And then she has her own recipe for like, they were called like fingerprint cookies or something.

[Jackie]

Patreon.

[Turo]

Totally.

[Jackie]

Oh, yeah, the fingerprint cookies. That's what she made when she went on that show and she write all the fingerprint cookies.

[Turo]

Synergy.

[Jackie]

Oh, that's very exciting. I'm, I'm. I keep checking the door like a kid on Christmas because I, I believe mine is coming because they asked for my address as well.

[Turo]

Of course.

[Jackie]

Might have been closer to New York. It happens.

[Turo]

Correct. Now, the third thing I need to talk about to you about was major, major, major, major things happening on the Internet yesterday. Alex Earl made a tick tock using our sound. Now I feel like that was her virtue signaling to us. Like, she hears what we say, she appreciates how supportive we are, and she loves us. That's. That's how I received it.

[Jackie]

Yeah, I received the subliminal message as well.

[Turo]

Very Josie and the Pussycats.

[Jackie]

Also, a lot of people use our sounds. Like we're very viral. Our sounds are very popular. People love the things that we say, say. And they want to mimic the things that we say. Like that's.

[Turo]

And they want to be us. They love us. We're so perfect and rich and gorgeous.

[Jackie]

That's just been a fact for a while. Like, people love our sounds and big stars have used our sounds.

[Turo]

Huge. Renee Zellweger.

[Jackie]

But when it comes to tick tock, like the biggest person who could use your sound is Alex Earl. Like, this sounds about to live another.

[Turo]

Life and what do we do about it? You know, I don't. I'm trying to not let it get to my head. Obviously. I was glued to my phone all day. Where do we go from here?

[Jackie]

I just think that we can add that to our resume of like viral sound makers.

[Turo]

Yeah, yeah. Viral audio curators.

[Jackie]

Yeah, like sound makers. Change makers in the industry.

[Turo]

Sound makers. I love that.

[Jackie]

Yeah. So that's. We podcast and we sound make and that's like, okay, you know, you know, like the, the DJs who do like remixes that everybody then uses for transition reels. And like that's their. Like we're like that. And we also have jobs.

[Turo]

We are like the guy. And 2024 season has come to a close.

[Jackie]

Sammy.

[Turo]

Sammy, who we did go to middle.

[Jackie]

School with, he's a fellow viral sound maker.

[Turo]

Yeah, exactly.

[Jackie]

There's a couple of us, we should.

[Turo]

Get together and have like viral soundcloud.

[Jackie]

Like the 500 pound sisters.

[Turo]

You tried my size, Amy, you don't know how it is. You can do stuff.

[Jackie]

So we're just amongst those people.

[Turo]

We're, you know, we're kind of giving like thousand pounds is our energy these days.

[Jackie]

I love that for us. I really do. Sisters be drinking lemon water. I don't think so.

[Turo]

Oh no, nurse. She's out with her lemon water. Wait, you did remind me of something I wanted to say.

[Jackie]

I'm trying to take care of my instrument. Like, I really. I'm try. Like it's actually so important that I have a voice. I was editing Redheads last night, like listening to myself speak like it was making me cough more because the girl can't speak.

[Turo]

I know you're not into pharmaceuticals, obviously. However, a Mucinex in a Situation like this like does go extremely hard.

[Jackie]

For sure. I'm pregnant. Like.

[Turo]

Oh right.

[Jackie]

Yeah. No, if I weren't pregnant. Yeah, hit me up. I'm not. Yeah, anything like although actually now like can't trust anything.

[Turo]

Although. Mucinex did give Ben a 12 hour erection. So one time when he took it.

[Jackie]

You know, you take.

[Turo]

So just letting you know. Mucinex D, emphasis on the day.

[Jackie]

Oh well, that D goes wild. I just want.

[Turo]

Yeah, yeah. And that gave Ben a 12 hour erection.

[Jackie]

But like Allegra D clouded D. When you add the D. I'm not even joking. You like it's a anti his mean that like makes you nutty. It's like taking it makes you hard. Well, I didn't know that it makes you hard. But you know that when you're trying to wean from breastfeeding, it's useful to take Mucinex a day. A Mucinex because it strips you of your liquids, you know, in your nose, in your breasts, throat, just inside baseball.

[Turo]

Now speaking of breasts, the fourth thing I wanted to talk to you about, which is something I sent you last night and you didn't even respond, rude, was Emily Oster.

[Jackie]

I've kind of been begging Emily at a horrible time. I didn't even know.

[Turo]

Listen, I'm going to play it for you, don't worry.

[Jackie]

Where'd you send it? In Sam Chat or in.

[Turo]

Yeah, so I've been like sort of begging subliminally Emily Oster for those who don't know. I was trying to explain to bed. Who is Emily Oster? Jackie, like explain Emily Oster.

[Jackie]

So she's like a professor of economics. She's a statistician. That's her like trade. She runs numbers, she does data. And then she became pregnant and a mother and she started applying all of her like data analyzing skills to pregnancy and motherhood in terms of best outcomes for pregnancy, best outcomes for parenting.

[Turo]

Based on data.

[Jackie]

Based on data.

[Turo]

And.

[Jackie]

And she put all of that into a series of books that have become especially the pregnancy book, Expecting Better that have become really like the most popular pregnancy books at the moment.

[Turo]

She's like the, the leading swirly on all things parenthood, motherhood, babyhood, pregnancy.

[Jackie]

Yeah. And she's also close personal friends with Dr. Fox, which gives her even more street cred in the space.

[Turo]

So I've kind of been like waiting for her and like just subliminally begging her to speak on OIC in breastfeeding. I feel like it's the perfect topic for her and I guess she does these weekly Q and as. I just followed her on Instagram because last night somebody sent me her Instagram story being like, she's speaking your truth. Somebody asked weight loss meds while breastfeeding. I heard it's okay. I also heard it's not okay. What does the data say now? I have read the data. Actually there's like one study done. God forbid they invest in women's studies. Here's what she had to say. Best and most recent data we have really doesn't suggest that these medications pass through at meaningful levels in the breast milk. So it's really not a concern for your baby. When you are first breastfeeding especially and you're establishing supply, you really want to make sure you're getting enough calories. And that's probably not the time for. But if we're talking about your six months or a year into breastfeeding and it is time to think about some weight loss for whatever season, time to think about. There isn't any reason, isn't any reason that necessarily necessarily needs to get in the way. Now this was huge obviously for fat girls breastfeeding everywhere because as you guys know, my bane, the bane of my existence, like my cross to bear in this lifetime is that I absolutely love breastfeeding. I have an amazing supply, like, and I'm crushing it. And I didn't think that I would. And unfortunately, like, I am going to have to stop because I need to get on as epic. And it sounds like Emily Oster is saying, like, I actually don't have to.

[Jackie]

So I appreciate Emily for telling you what you want to hear. If you. I still don't think it's a good idea.

[Turo]

And I appreciate your input. I appreciate Emily's input. I'm appreciating a lot of people's inputs until I make my decision. I haven't decided.

[Jackie]

You've decided?

[Turo]

No, I said I haven't decided.

[Jackie]

Oh, oh, okay.

[Turo]

But having Emily on my team, huge for the community. Now who do I have to pay to like do a study and I.

[Jackie]

Want to totally impartial time. They take years because you have to then see how this baby, it's not just a minute, like, oh, what happened in this minute that the baby.

[Turo]

No, why? Like give me ozempic for a month and I'll make milk and you tell me if there's ozempic in the milk, the end.

[Jackie]

But it's not gonna be ozempic in the study concluded it could be other things that have long term effects, not short term. I'M sorry.

[Turo]

I just can't live like this anymore. I can't live like this anymore. Even though I was just having this conversation with somebody, like having weight fluctuations as a public figure, like, is so interesting, right? And I talked about this a lot. Like when I got really skinny, I felt like I definitely had more work opportunities. Just like brands, fashion, like, you're open to more things, but people like hate you because they. You have an amazing personality. Like, and you're skinny. Like, you're lethal. I feel like now that I'm fat again, like people like me again, do you know what I mean? I'm feeling more beloved than ever. And that's like kind of one thing I'm really liking about being overweight again.

[Jackie]

But do you also think that the belovedness, like comes from like new motherhood? Like it's not just gained weight?

[Turo]

Like you didn't just know people love fat bitches. Like, we're non threatening, right? Like, we're not going to take your man. We're fat. Like people, especially on the Internet, they love to champion someone non threatening.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Turo]

And little do you know, I'm so threatening.

[Jackie]

Like, no, but I jokes on you. I think it's more than just like awaken. I think, you know, new motherhood. I think also being a mom is great for opportunities as well. So I think you're feeling the love, but not for just the reasons that you think.

[Turo]

No, Jackie, I'm telling you, like, look.

[Jackie]

In turd self lid.

[Turo]

No, I'm telling you, like, they love a fat.

[Jackie]

They love Mother turdy.

[Turo]

Mother Teresa, like seriously is so threatened by me, it's disgusting.

[Jackie]

They love mama turd.

[Turo]

Mama turd for sure.

[Jackie]

Just saying. Anyways, let us know what you decide if you're gonna take Ozempic and breastfeed.

[Turo]

I will. I haven't decided yet. But I just want to let you know those are the four things I wanted to discuss. Robert Cash, Meghan Markle, Alex Earl, Emily Oster. Anything you want to talk about?

[Jackie]

Well, since we're talking about like medication and pregnancy, I kind of like broke the Internet yesterday when I said I wasn't taking prenatals.

[Turo]

Like, literally.

[Jackie]

I. I just like threw that in there.

[Turo]

Well, Jackie and I found out over the summer that the pretty.

[Jackie]

Okay, sorry, people like, message me and I could tell they were like, some people were not good faith, you know, because they just wanted to screenshot what I said and be like, she's crazy. What happened?

[Turo]

And she is, by the way.

[Jackie]

No, no, I'm actually, this is me not Even being crazy, I took these prenatals in both my pregnancies.

[Turo]

She got me on them. I've been on them for, like, four years.

[Jackie]

I, I, you know, I liked the results. So I took them. I was taking them again for this one, and Claudia was taking them. And then a couple months ago, the prenatals were recalled.

[Turo]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

So I said, all you, I'll eat more fish. I'll have a steak. Yeah, that's crazy.

[Turo]

It's crazy. I was the one who told you about it because I got a DM asking what prenatals I took, and I.

[Jackie]

Just see that I still wouldn't even know that they were real.

[Turo]

So I just shared.

[Jackie]

Send me a piece of mail.

[Turo]

And it wasn't like this, like, niche company. Like I would say. It's like one of the big yellow bottle. It's the yellow bottle.

[Jackie]

They sell it on Amazon.

[Turo]

It's first at every grocery store. It's everywhere. And I've been taking them for years. I just posted it and everyone was DMing me, like, hey, you know, these were recalled. I said, excuse me. I deleted the story immediately.

[Jackie]

And I told Jackie, yeah, yucky, yucky.

[Turo]

So I, I, I hear you.

[Jackie]

So that's why, I mean, like, that's why I'm not taking prenatals. It's, it would be weird if I continued to.

[Turo]

Well, I did continue taking those prenatals after my pregnancy because I heard it helps with hair loss. And then I found out they were recalled, so I switched to another one. Next thing I know, I'm shitting orange. So I just got off the pills. Like, I'm just on a break to see how well it's, I can't, I can't, like, no, it's not that it's hard. It's simple. It's not possible for some of us.

[Jackie]

It's also, it's just like, a lot of admin, you know, Like, I have to go to the store and buy steak, then I have to cook it.

[Turo]

I thought you were saying it's a lot of admin to take the prenatals. Because that was something that surprised me in pregnancy. Like, I took them every day. Like, I didn't, I don't think I missed one.

[Jackie]

Yeah, no, it's exciting to get to the bottom of the bottle. It marks like, a big moment in your pregnancy. You're like, I'm one bottle through because it's such a big bottle. So if you've taken one every day, you really, it means something. It's like a mark of Time, It's.

[Turo]

A milestone they don't warn you about.

[Jackie]

It's passage of time.

[Turo]

It's a significant one.

[Jackie]

Yeah, yeah.

[Turo]

Now, in terms of stories, what's the.

[Jackie]

Elk CT classic toast?

[Turo]

Speaking of elk, I've got to get a Powerball ticket. It's over a billion dollars. Did somebody win? Let me check.

[Jackie]

I've been liking the stories because I feel like over the summer we were. Every story was like such a massive story that required like in depth investigation. And this today and like this week, it's just like little stories that we can just chat about and move on. And I'm enjoying that.

[Turo]

Did anyone win the Powerball winning numbers for $1.4 billion? No one has won. No one's come forward. I gotta get a ticket. No grand prize winner, but there were a couple people who won 2 million and 1 million dollars. I'm happy for them. Can't wait to see them on the next season of my lottery Dream home.

[Jackie]

Yeah, no, that's the sort of warnings that will ruin your life, you know, because you, like, just get big ideas. You forget about the tax man.

[Turo]

Oh, wait. Speaking of Yannick Sinner, I just heard something interestant. Brooks Nader is rumored to be dating Yannick Sinner.

[Jackie]

Well, I, of course she is. Her and her sisters who are doing a great job at creating buzz for their show and promoting their show.

[Turo]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

When the time comes, I will be watching 100 Time Being when I like, finish real houses in Miami. I saw her and her sisters, like, talking about her roster and making a lot of allusions to tennis.

[Turo]

Yes. My sources, my sources are saying Yanni Nader.

[Jackie]

Well, I love that Yanni because like Gleb, I know she's got like, talking now about like, glad broke her heart, like, how, I don't know, to be dating Tom Brady.

[Turo]

And I was gonna say broke your heart. The charity she was doing dating Gleb when she literally has been connected to Tom Brady and Yannick.

[Jackie]

No, it's crazy. But, like, truly, when I hear her speaking about Gleb, like, she was really in love with him, which is so crazy.

[Turo]

That is crazy.

[Jackie]

Like, it was very real, even though the whole time we thought it was not real.

[Turo]

I meant to say, now that Alex Earl has used our sound, I do think I'm gonna watch Dancing with the Stars. And I know that the listeners of this show who have been watching for years and, like, who are obsessed. There's a cult about Dancing with the Stars. Like, I'm ready for the documentary who, like, go to see them on tour. They're gonna be, like, so excited to hear me say that. But I'm in this era. I'm in my cable era. I feel like once you become a mom, you watch a lot more cable. And I think I'll be watching. Do it usually.

[Jackie]

Okay, great.

[Turo]

I'll keep you updated.

[Jackie]

I won't stop you. Oh, you know what we didn't do yesterday? Who do you think is gonna win?

[Turo]

Dibo toss. You have to read me the entire roster again.

[Jackie]

Like, no one jumped out at you.

[Turo]

I don't remember. All I remember was Lauren Haragi's rip tights one.

[Jackie]

I think Alex Earl could win if she wants to, but I could also.

[Turo]

But she's like, the obvious winner and they never let the obvious person see.

[Jackie]

Her a few weeks in being like, I want to go home, you know, this was fun. Of course.

[Turo]

Get me back to Miami.

[Jackie]

Yeah. I miss Brax.

[Turo]

Alex Earl, Robert Irwin. Oh, I could see one of the secret lives girls.

[Jackie]

I think I put my money on Whitney.

[Turo]

Me too. Hilaria? No. Jordan Childs. Like, she has the talent, but I don't think she has the fan base. Dylan Efron. Honestly, they love to, like, you know, put like, mendo. No, the men who do, like, bare minimum.

[Jackie]

Like, he's so good.

[Turo]

Like, do you see what the girl's doing?

[Jackie]

Yeah, Whitney.

[Turo]

Yeah. I'm looking at the rest. I do feel like Whitney.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Turo]

They also love to give it to somebody in the synergetic network of Hulu, Disney, abc, spn, and like, rising tides rise all shy. So Whitney, being a Hulu star just helps with synergy.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Turo]

So Jack Donaghy.

[Jackie]

Well, that will be fun. Beyond that, I do think it's time.

[Turo]

Yeah, me too.

[Jackie]

For the Fast 5 stories that you do do need to know.

[Turo]

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[Jackie]

Thank you, Turtle.

[Turo]

You're welcome.

[Jackie]

Are you ready for our first story? A bit of an update on Ms. Kelly Clarkson.

[Turo]

Oh, what is she up to? I haven't heard this.

[Jackie]

Her talk show return date has been revealed following Brandon Blackstock's death. So Kelly will be making her long awaited return to her show, the Kelly Clarkson show. Production on the season will begin on the week of September 8th with celebrity guests like Julia Roberts, Dwayne Johnson, and Emily Blunt in the lineup.

[Turo]

Oh, okay. So just like back to business.

[Jackie]

Back to working on September 8th.

[Turo]

Now I feel like it's almost. Not quite yet, but it's almost time.

[Jackie]

For the show to end. No, for.

[Turo]

Come on.

[Jackie]

I don't know.

[Turo]

For Kelly Clarkson memoir. Like, I. I would have thought that she would be a perfect candidate for a Kelly Clarkson memoir. Like, I'm truly America's sweetheart, America's first idol. Like, she's lived such a life, but she also now has, like a very sort of like, mysterious, sordid personal life. And now this great tragedy. I do feel like we're gonna get a Kelly Clarkson memoir in the next couple of years, and it's going to be, like, insane.

[Jackie]

Yeah. But not like she couldn't sit down to write it today because I think.

[Turo]

No, she's still living through it.

[Jackie]

She's living through it. Things are unsettled. Who even knows what will be with the show? I think once she finishes the show and she enters the next chapter of her life, that chapter, no pun intended, might include a memoir. Memoir.

[Turo]

And of course, of course, we have to, you know, project. No. Predict. Excuse me, what memoirs of a Kelly are going to be titled. Because I'm thinking like a breakaway colon, the Kelly Clarkson story.

[Jackie]

I think something like America's Idol. Love.

[Turo]

Love. Or like, maybe we should take some time off. And I'll be like, since I've been gone. They honestly are endless. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. She has so many.

[Jackie]

She really does have so many. I saw, like, a funny meme going around that was like, American Idol, like, sent out, set out to, like, find the best.

[Turo]

I saw this too.

[Jackie]

Voice in the Nation. They literally crushed it season one.

[Turo]

And they should have closed down shop ever since. Like, like, the mission was they literally.

[Jackie]

Found the American Idol.

[Turo]

Correct.

[Jackie]

They also found, like, Carrie Underwood and other, of course, great talents who were around American Idol. Of course, so many people came from American Idol. Like Jennifer.

[Turo]

I mean, David Archuleta, do you know?

[Jackie]

But like, Jennifer Hudson came from America, but she wasn't American. He didn't win either.

[Turo]

Right.

[Jackie]

So. But I'm just saying, like, the job they set out to do was done things. They did that.

[Turo]

Now, obviously, Kelly Clarkson is a dream guest on this show, even though we, like, don't do guests. And I Do think that when she writes the memoir, like, that's the perfect time for her to come on. Like, we will get an advanced copy and we will do an in depth interview.

[Jackie]

Okay. So we'll see you in a couple years.

[Turo]

So write that book, Kelly. Get to work.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Turo]

I am excited that, you know, when you're dealing with something as tragic as she's going through, sometimes just getting back to work helps, you know, takes your mind off of things, gives you purpose, fills your days. And so I don't think she would be returning if she wasn't ready because I think the network, like, respects her. I think, like, they would give her as much time off as she needed. She is holding that network together.

[Jackie]

I agree. And I think. I think probably the harder parts of this entire journey, like, happened earlier before, you know, and, like, that he was dying and there was time. And I think those months were probably really hard.

[Turo]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

So I hope that this is the sign of, like, better days to come.

[Turo]

Yeah. For her. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And it's just really crazy that, like, we don't see Kelly Clarkson out and about more. She lives in New York.

[Jackie]

Well, she is kind of like a Hannah Montana where it's like, if she puts on a ball cap, she's just a regular girl.

[Turo]

Yeah. And as somebody who has actually met Kelly Clarkson.

[Jackie]

Oh, my God. And my voice is amazing today. I didn't even think sticky shoes, sticky shoes My sticky, sticky shoes.

[Turo]

I did meet Kelly Clarkson, and it was at, like, a fancy event, and she totally blended, and I think she was wearing, like, a baseball hat. She's extremely low key.

[Jackie]

Yeah, exactly. Which is nice for her.

[Turo]

Yeah. Well, I'm looking forward to the memoir. I'm looking forward to the show returning. Just Queen Kelly, always, like, sending love from your Clarksonators.

[Jackie]

It's true. Are you ready for our next story? A little book to movie news. Not the typical kind. Wuthering Heights trailer has dropped.

[Turo]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Jacob Elordi seduces Margot Robbie in erotic footage from Saltburn director Emerald Fennell's movie. So we knew that they were playing Heathcliff and Kathy in Wuthering Heights.

[Turo]

And the poster, like, looked legit. Like, I thought it was a weird casting and maybe I just, like, a PTSD from this book in high school, like, being so torturous.

[Jackie]

Heathcliff is so Heathcliff.

[Turo]

Kathy. Like, who knew her name was Kathy? I just, like, wasn't excited about this. And then I saw the poster and I was like, oh, you know what? It looks like they're really making, like, a period piece. It Looks like they're putting, you know, respect on Heathcliff's name. It looked good. And then I heard Charlie XCX was doing the soundtrack, and I was like, okay. No, they're making it like a swirly salt, Bernie. Like, can we just adapt literature in a meaningful and respectful way?

[Jackie]

The yassification of Wuthering Heights.

[Turo]

Right. Like, why?

[Jackie]

Something that I was yearning for.

[Turo]

Correct.

[Jackie]

And I want to say I saw the promo. I saw the Charlie xcx, and I was like, okay, no, like, this. This is a bridge too far. Emily Bronte is, like, rolling over in her grave. And then I watched the trailer. And yes, it's definitely a porno if you were looking to go to the theater and see some porn. But it looks, like good and well done.

[Turo]

So with the porn aspect, I'm actually okay with that, you know? Like, I don't think that makes it, like, yassified. Like, Pride and Prejudice had, like, a little porn.

[Jackie]

You know, horny in the sense. It was very romantic. No, like, did you watch a trailer?

[Turo]

No.

[Jackie]

It was, like, fingers. Like, you know, sensual. Yeah. But they weren't on body parts. It was, like, sticking. I can't explain it. They were like some raw eggs and, like, I don't know. It was just, like, porny.

[Turo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jackie]

And, like, a lot of tactile things, but definitely sigma. I don't know how much porn you can put in a trailer. So they were just showing us what's to come.

[Turo]

But also, like, I don't think Margot Robbie, like, shows titty, so it can't be that porny.

[Jackie]

Is the book erotic?

[Turo]

I don't think so, because we wouldn't have been reading it in high school.

[Jackie]

Yeah. So everything is porn these days. So, like, if I can get past that.

[Turo]

Yeah. I'm not bothered by the porn. Like, the Charlie xcx, like, really threw me off. But when I saw the. The poster, I thought he looked great with those sideburns. It was really giving Mr. Darcy.

[Jackie]

No, he really transformed for the role. And even though we think he's, like, a big loser, this looks like it could be an amazing role of a lifetime for him. Like, he's not just like, you know, what's the kissing booth playing Heathcliff? Like?

[Turo]

I just want to say he will always be the kissing booth playing Heathcliff.

[Jackie]

But, yeah, he has transformed himself.

[Turo]

Yeah, it's. It's a level up.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Plus, Margot Robbie, like, gives everything, like, a stamp of approval.

[Turo]

Yeah. She's so legit.

[Jackie]

She doesn't miss, I guess. Except for Babylon, which I. I never saw, so I couldn't say I'd probably like it since everybody didn't like it. I think there's some promise for this movie.

[Turo]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

And even the Charlie XDX song that was playing in the background was like, obviously so Churls. But it, like, kind of worked with, like, the. The mood of the trailer. It worked. It was a good trailer. If you're a trailer maker, like in the holiday.

[Turo]

The holiday.

[Jackie]

I would say you're a good trailer maker if you made this trailer.

[Turo]

I like that you got.

[Jackie]

You, like. You really tied it all together for me.

[Turo]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

So I'll see you Valentine's Day. Me and you've got big plans, like, for the month of February. Me and you. I feel like, oh, we're gonna be, like, living together, you know, that.

[Turo]

What?

[Jackie]

Like, you're gonna be down here. We have a lot going on for the month of February.

[Turo]

What? Because we're going to Rascal plus for the whole month? Yeah. It's like, what else are we doing in February?

[Jackie]

It's just always like, a big month. Like, you know, it's presents weekend. There was like, that. That festival that wanted us to come and. And grace them.

[Turo]

Yeah. We're not going, so.

[Jackie]

But, like, maybe we should, because we'll be together, but we're not going to be together. Like, Wuthering Heights is coming out. Like, it's Harry.

[Turo]

Speaking of trailers, speaking of withering heights, we haven't even talked about. The new Downton Abbey movie comes out next week. I already bought tickets. Like, I'm literally going in the middle of the day, and it looks amazing. It's all about Mary.

[Jackie]

I know. I have to tell my husband. He's going to be so excited to go to the movies because it's all he ever wants to do.

[Turo]

So apparently the. The premise of the film is that Mary is divorced, which makes sense because in the last two movies, like, her husband didn't even. He didn't even get cast. He wasn't even in it. And she's, you know, it's the 1930s, she's a divorcee, and it's, like, extremely radical. And she's considered, like, super radioactive, and nobody wants to be around her socially. And I think it's all about, like, like a phoenix, Mary rising from the ashes.

[Jackie]

Well, I can't wait.

[Turo]

No, I can't wait. The. The trailer, another A plus, stellar trailer, looked so good, I bought tickets immediately.

[Jackie]

Oh, that's really exciting. I gotta get my ticks.

[Turo]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

You know, so it's Big time for movies.

[Turo]

Big, big day for movies. I feel like it's that time of year where everybody's gotta like. Like, it starts the rollout. Right. Of the actual good movies.

[Jackie]

Thanksgiving movies, Right? Yeah. Movies that feel like real movies.

[Turo]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Speaking of the person who uttered those immortal words, Zoe Kravitz and Harry Styles were spotted holding hands in Brooklyn. So people are saying.

[Turo]

So Harry Styles is stateside. Like, huge news.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Harry Styles is down the road from you, literally.

[Turo]

Not me. Like, roaming the streets of Brooklyn. Harry.

[Jackie]

And he is definitely. Well, you would be doing that anyway. It's like an auntie who loves.

[Turo]

Yeah. So true.

[Jackie]

I always forget that that's, like, my son's name.

[Turo]

He makes up for Prince Harry being, like, a big weenie. He carries the name really well. He. He gives it, like, a lot of parginess.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Like aura.

[Turo]

Okay. Gen Z. Okay. Alex Earl. Aura. Yeah. You used it perfectly.

[Jackie]

First time using that word. Crushed it.

[Turo]

Slade.

[Jackie]

Crushed. Felt good. So these two are dating. Like, I don't know what happened with Austin. I don't give a rant. Zoe Kravitz and Harry Styles are dating. And in the circle of these interchangeable celebrities who have been dating each other recently, this fits.

[Turo]

It does. I feel like it's gonna be really awkward for her and Austin Butler because it's clear that she started hooking up with Austin Butler when they were doing this movie together. And then she got an opportunity to date Harry Styles, and she said, sorry, I'm out. And they're gonna be promoting. They're gonna have, like, a lot of future work together. And the way that it seems is like, she just called it quits because, like, a better thing came along. Love that for her. And it's gonna be weird when they have to start promoting stuff or like.

[Jackie]

They were asked to have a fake relationship for the movie, and she was like, yeah, sure, whatever. But then. Oh, that gets in the way of me dating Harry Styles. No.

[Turo]

Yeah. Because when opportunity knocks, like, you open the doors.

[Jackie]

The movie that they made might suffer because they're not going to be pretending to date. But okay. Like, she gets paid regardless.

[Turo]

And she now is, like, running around town with Harry Styles.

[Jackie]

Harry Styles. And I. I just feel like he would be so in love with her.

[Turo]

I would love to know how Carol Rodswell feels.

[Jackie]

And Olivia Wilde. Yeah. Because it's like, Olivia Wilde is, like.

[Turo]

So MIA after that. I feel like, what happened to her?

[Jackie]

She needed to take a break. Things got really hot.

[Turo]

Yeah, they did. With the divorce papers being served on.

[Jackie]

The panel with the. With the movie, of course. Oh, Shia. And like, her. Her professionalism was called into question with that.

[Turo]

Her integrity as a woman too, because she's one of those, you know, the future is female T shirt wearing types of bitches.

[Jackie]

And.

[Turo]

And then she was out here, like, forcing Florence Pugh to work with a known abuser.

[Jackie]

No, no, but not even that. Like, what Florence was saying was that, like, she was so involved in her relationship with Harry on set that they, like, she didn't, like, show up and direct. Direct, like, flow. Started directing. So, like, her capabilities as a director have been called into question.

[Turo]

That was such a crazy saga.

[Jackie]

It was another one that I'm, like, so happy to be on the other side of.

[Turo]

Yeah, yeah. And yeah, yeah.

[Jackie]

And yeah. Like, now Harry's settling with Zoe Love. Yeah.

[Turo]

Although he was rumored to be briefly linked to Olivia Dean, who I talked about on this podcast a while ago. Now everyone's obsessed with her. But, like, I started it first and I told you you would like her music. I don't know if you've heard. It's like a song all over Tick tock now. So come be the man I need Tell me I got something to say I want it do you? Have you heard it?

[Jackie]

It sounds like I have. Yeah.

[Turo]

Okay, well, I heard that they were dating, but I guess not.

[Jackie]

I think he's always dating.

[Turo]

Yeah, but think about Harry's, like, he's gonna date.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Turo]

A girl.

[Jackie]

Like, if he. It's a week, you know, when he's single, like, why wouldn't he go on a date every week?

[Turo]

A thousand percent.

[Jackie]

Every night a different town. She follows me around. Why not? So, yeah, then a lot of girls have dated Mari Styles.

[Turo]

I believe it was the great Hillary Duff who once said, why not?

[Jackie]

Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Oh, some more new couple news. Bethany Frankel reveals that she dated Jennifer Aniston's new boyfriend, Jim Curtis, and delivers a verdict on the new couple. So 1. Jennifer Aniston has a new boyfriend.

[Turo]

I didn't even see this. Be right back.

[Jackie]

Named Jim Curtis. He's like a businessman in the wellness space. He is, like, handsome and age appropriate and, like, so that's really nice for her. Now Bethany is making news because on her podcast, she shared that she dated Jim, like, 10 years ago.

[Turo]

She said that he's Bethany Frankel and Jennifer Aniston, like, would date the same person.

[Jackie]

No, same elk.

[Turo]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Which I think. And she said he's a really nice guy and she's really happy for Jen she said it didn't work out. He works in the wellness space. And I've just never been like about that. She said I don't love all areas of it and I don't always take all areas of it seriously. We talked about it, but I. We just didn't get that into it. So I think, like, you know, not a match.

[Turo]

But I want to talk more about this guy. He's extremely hot.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Turo]

He looks like a mix of Jon Ham and Eric Dane. That's one of the best calls I've ever made. She's obviously like Jennifer Addison. Right. Like, she's Rachel. She's everything like Brad Pitt. Like, when you date Brad Pitt, it's like, hard.

[Jackie]

Right, Right.

[Turo]

He's extremely hot. Oh, my God, how sad. Every time they talk about Jennifer Aniston, they talk about Brad Pitt. Not me just actually doing that. But like in Page Six because I'm reading this article.

[Jackie]

You did? Seriously, leave the woman alone.

[Turo]

Leave the woman alone.

[Jackie]

Well, it's about her relationship history.

[Turo]

Right.

[Jackie]

So it is sort of germane.

[Turo]

Sort of, Sort of. He has a son with his ex wife.

[Jackie]

Okay, that's great. I am sort of like now, you know, lamenting the breakup of Jim and Bethany. They could have also. But she said, like, he's just. I think she was. It's funny because she is, like, wellnessy. But not in a woo woo sort of way.

[Turo]

No, in just like a skinny way.

[Jackie]

Yeah, she's just skinny.

[Turo]

She just like, wants to, like, cook healthy.

[Jackie]

She just drinks lemon water and chicken salad. But she said, like, this is probably a better match. Jen is like an actual true California girl. And while he's not a California guy, he vibes with that wellness talk. It's very Hollywood and very actor. Not a diss, just a fact. She said.

[Turo]

Sounds a little bit like a dis.

[Jackie]

But no, I feel like I understand what she's saying. It's like a vibe.

[Turo]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

That she exists outside of as.

[Turo]

I'm just saying it's a little dizzy.

[Jackie]

As do I. As do you. And then of course, I could never date someone look at us and be like, well, you're not well, slobs. Yeah. Like you don't live at this high vibration that we do. Like sad for you.

[Turo]

Thousand percent. They would say something about our vibrations.

[Jackie]

Right. So like, they don't feel like, sorry for us and we don't feel sorry for them. Great, Great.

[Turo]

We see each other.

[Jackie]

I love that.

[Turo]

One thing about Bethany is like, she's gonna find, like, handsome, wealthy men to date, you know?

[Jackie]

Yeah, well, I had seen like some. The headline was like this, Jennifer Aniston's boyfriend dated this real housewife. And I'm like, who? You know, it's always someone like random.

[Turo]

Totally.

[Jackie]

But it was Bethany and really she is another one who has like a very long history in the industry and.

[Turo]

She reminds me a lot right now. Like she moves a lot. Like Kristen Cavallari.

[Jackie]

Yeah, very.

[Turo]

Like using your podcast.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Turo]

To tell us about all the people you dated.

[Jackie]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a good call.

[Turo]

Thanks.

[Jackie]

Like the most eligible women. Seriously.

[Turo]

Speaking of a good call, it's always a good call to get on the on the call. On the horn with Better Help. Today's episode is sponsored by Better Help. So we've all done it before. Turning Tarbarista hairdresser Just a random stranger in the bathroom for life advice. As fun as they are to talk to you about everyday topics. When you're looking for help about relationships, anxiety, depression or any other clinical issues, they may not have the right answers. Instead, get guidance from a credentialed therapist online with Better Help. So Better Help has quality therapists. Their therapists work hard and they work according to a strict code of conduct. They're all fully licensed in the United States and they have a commitment commitment to therapist matching. So they do the initial match work for you so you can focus on your therapy goals. A short questionnaire will help you identify your needs, your preferences and they have over 10 years of experience and industry leading. Match fulfillment rate means that they typically get it right the first time. But if you aren't happy with your match, you can switch to a different therapist at any time from their tailored recommendations. It's also super flexible. I think that's why people get started with Better Help initially because it's done entirely online, so it's super convenient. You can also pause your subscription whenever you need to. You could switch therapists extra time at any time with no extra extra cost. So not only is it really accessible, like you can call, you can text, you can FaceTime, you can also make your subscription fit your Life. With over 30,000 therapists, better help is the world's largest online therapy platform, helping you fit therapy into your busy life. As the largest online therapy provider in the world, Better Help can provide access to mental health professionals with a diverse variety of Expertise. Find the one with better help Our listeners are going to get 10% off their first month at betterhelp.com toast that's betterhelp hp.com/toast Today's episode is also brought to you by Little Spoon. Parents never want to sacrifice quality for convenience. But so many baby and kid food options today just don't meet the mark. That's why we love Little Spoon. They are delivering healthy, ready to eat meals and snacks that your baby, your toddler or even your big kid will love and that are all thoughtfully sourced. They really know what parents want today and they make it so easy. Plus, they are the first and only baby food company to set strict publicly available standards for heavy metals, pesticides and more in their baby and toddler food. Peace of mind that every parent deserves an easier mealtime without sacrificing quality. So like it's low key crazy how much baby food out there is like crap filled with chemicals, really bad ingredients and you would assume that like baby food is safe but it's low key not. And Little Spoon is out here delivering everything. So whether you need baby blends, puffs, biteables, plates like full meals, smoothies, lunchers, snacks, they offer a wide variety. They have junk free, better for you, alternatives for your kids, favorite stacks. They have fresh takes on old school classics for lunchers. Their plates are toddler and big kid meals that are free of junk and taste amazing. It all comes right to your door. It's flexible, it's easy. Everything stores right in the fridge, in the freezer. You pick your menu, change it up every time you order so you can try different things. The price is right, the quality is unmatched. We love it. It's a huge win win for our families and it can be for yours too. So simplify your kids meal times with 30% off your first order, go to little spoon.com toast30 enter our code toast30 at checkout. To get 30% off your first little spoon order, that's little spoon/t o a s t30. Our code is t o a s t30 for 30 off your first little spoon order.

[Jackie]

Thank you little turd.

[Turo]

You're welcome.

[Jackie]

Our fifth and final story is some exciting fashion news. Sophia Richie Grange has teased a new label called SRG Atelier. She posted the Instagram account for SRG Artelier. That's what it's called. There's nothing on the page, but it seems as though Ms. Richie Grange is coming out with a like a luxury.

[Turo]

Clothing line, which I found shocking. I don't know why. Obviously like she's a tastemaker, a trendsetter. Everything she does is viral. Everything she wears gets sold out. So like naturally you'd want to have your own company. I just feel like even the best, the biggest, like everybody's clothing lines flop. Like it's literally impossible to do. And I feel like she was making really smart moves up until. I don't know if you saw she became like an investor in Shop My.

[Jackie]

Yeah, I saw.

[Turo]

Which is like one of the affiliate programs that Meghan Markle is actually using. It's like a lot of influencers use it. You can shop, you know your favorite celebrities, Closets. It's a party company and they're really up and coming. And so I thought Sophia, Richie Grange, being on board for that like made total sense. I don't know why. I just feel like I cannot think of even the coolest, best gals. Everybody launches their own things and like they all fizzle. They all like are. It's really hard to like set a price point that people like be size inclusive enough for the Internet to like to have make it styles that people honestly, you know who's doing it. Well, not me mentioning her twice on this podcast. Dairy Boy actually placed an order this morning because I thought it was pargy.

[Jackie]

Like it's so pargy, it's so party.

[Turo]

But I feel like she started really small.

[Jackie]

Yep.

[Turo]

Built it up. Built it up. I'm. I can't think of a lot of examples where people crush it. I. It's even and it's not about the person because the coolest, most stylish, partiest girls can't crack it.

[Jackie]

Yeah, I agree with that. However, I think one person who is like an exception to the rule but also is kind of proving the rule is Molly May. She like. I feel like Sophia's clothing line will be like akin to Molly's in terms of like style. It's like very like.

[Turo]

Okay, let's keep it national though, because I feel like UK is different, but.

[Jackie]

Like literally everything I wear is maybe I love. Maybe I think it's an amazing brand. I love the clothes. It's like, like Molly style. She wears it in everything. She. It's not even like she's trying to promote. It's what she wants to wear. However, when I watch her docu series, like it looks like torture. I feel like she regrets ever starting it.

[Turo]

I think that happens a lot too people.

[Jackie]

Even if it's even though, like you.

[Turo]

Don'T make enough money.

[Jackie]

Yeah, no, you don't make enough money. Like the margins thing, the coats came out and they were like shitty quality. And then everybody clowns on her on the Internet, of course. And I don't even know if shit's like Is she returns or she had to, like, cancel the rest of them. It was like, millions of dollars and it's like a nightmare. So even though I'm having fun here in my silk pants, yesterday were from maybe. And literally I'm always wearing maybe. I. I don't know how it's going for Molly. I don't know.

[Turo]

No, I think it's unenjoyable. And yes, Sophia Richie is set up nicely where it's like, she has built in wealth, fame, where it's like, all the things that maybe a small business wouldn't have to deal with. She probably doesn't have to. She probably has, like, huge investors. Like, it's fine, but I don't know, like, think of like.

[Jackie]

Like something maybe. And I'm not even had huge investors.

[Turo]

I'm not saying this in a negative way, but, like, her clothing line did not succeed and, like, she's perfect for it. Right?

[Jackie]

Perfect for it.

[Turo]

People buy everything she wears fashion girly on the planet.

[Jackie]

Everything sells out. High price, low price. She could sell anything.

[Turo]

So I don't know. I. I feel like if I'm Sophia Richie, I'm not wasting my time with this, like, fruitless endeavor because even the ones that are successful, like, you don't even make so much money, like, with fast fashion, like, and everybody just clouds on you. Like, are you ethically sourced? Are you size inclusive? Like, off? I can't be everything.

[Jackie]

Yeah. And there's.

[Turo]

I would never.

[Jackie]

Not to mention, like, the original thing that you're setting out to do is to create something that doesn't already exist. There is so much out there.

[Turo]

And not to make everything about us, but, like, on a very small scale, like, we do merch, which is just merch, by the way. And it is so hard. We get. So your shipping is not good enough. Your size inclusive is not big enough. It's not sustainable enough. Like, okay, like, please, I don't know what you want. I'm not woke like the rest of you. Okay.

[Jackie]

Yeah. So I. I'm curious to see what you put out. I can see myself really liking it. I just don't know why someone would do this to themselves when they don't have to.

[Turo]

Although I do think what you just said.

[Jackie]

When they don't have to.

[Turo]

I do think, though, that the comparison to maybe is a good one.

[Jackie]

Yeah. But I would love to know how Molly's feeling about maybe. Like, it seriously seems to be the bane of her. But then she's also, like, opening new offices. She was just posting, like, new, like, in this huge office space. So they're obviously, like, making money.

[Turo]

Yeah. I think it's a one in a million type of thing. I really. I can think of way more unsuccessful ones, and I don't want to be mean and say them. And I'm not saying it in a mean way. It doesn't mean that you're a failure. I think it's, like, an impossible industry.

[Jackie]

I think a really good example was back in the day because she was just talking about this recently, Whitney Port. When she was on the Hill, she was, like, the fashion, like, the. The best style on the show, like, just so elevated. And she was on a podcast saying, like, all the money that she made from the Hills, which was a lot of money, she put it all into her clothing line. And, like, zero.

[Turo]

Oh.

[Jackie]

And I remember what she had. Stores. She had a line. Like, it was successful, and it still isn't. It. It's not a success because it's impossible.

[Turo]

Okay. Yeah. Like, okay, now I'm thinking. I'm trying to think of other examples, because one that's really successful is the bar. Bridget.

[Jackie]

Yes.

[Turo]

But even that she shares all the time, it's rife with issues. Like, it's the hardest business to be in, and I feel like she's one of the very, very rare ones who did it successfully.

[Jackie]

Yes. Also, Morgan Stewart is having success right now.

[Turo]

Renly.

[Jackie]

Yes.

[Turo]

That's a good one. That's a good one. But she said she's. She's similar to Sofia Richie in terms of. I feel like she had, like, party investors set it up really nicely. Like, she can start from scratch.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Hopefully it's, like, worked out well on the back end. It's also, like, still relatively.

[Turo]

But it's really hard. It's not a business I would really ever, ever want to be in.

[Jackie]

Yeah, I agree. Unless you do it also, like, with a big partner, which it doesn't sound like SRG atelier is with a big partner, but, like, you know, Lauren Conrad for Kohl's Beautiful.

[Turo]

Even everybody's like, you're wasteful. Like, these corporations are evil. Like, you can't win.

[Jackie]

You know what I hear? Cha Ching. No, I think, Coles, we are available. I think doing it with, like, a big partner like that, like, they have it all. They figured it out already. And then you.

[Turo]

Then you get into the Jessica Simpson debacle where you don't own your name. Like, it's literally. It's impossible.

[Jackie]

I think Jessica Simpson is happy with how things have shaped, of course, but.

[Turo]

She had to Buy back her own brand from one of those big box stores.

[Jackie]

And same with Martha Stewart.

[Turo]

Yes. It's like hundreds of millions of dollars.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Turo]

So I'm just happy to be a podcaster, you know.

[Jackie]

Yeah. And I look forward to seeing what she drops because I feel as though I would like it and I would close my body.

[Turo]

You would, too.

[Jackie]

I think I would put my body in it. Because she is a modest woman.

[Turo]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

And I hope.

[Turo]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

And just like, with her wedding, that inspired other girls to just, like, be modest in class.

[Turo]

Dress nicely.

[Jackie]

I hope that this, like, has the same effect.

[Turo]

Right. Like a wave of just like, everybody covering themselves in a normal way. Not like hemline lines, not like, you know, extremist, like, you know, covered to. But just, you know, like, put your titties away at work or something.

[Jackie]

Yeah. It's a. It's a lovely look.

[Turo]

It is.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Let's get those. Let's do those.

[Turo]

The choo choo.

[Jackie]

The check at when you're in hemline.

[Turo]

The yardstick. Oh, my God, I love that.

[Jackie]

She should call her label Yards Stick and everything will pass the test.

[Turo]

That's kind of a nice name for, like, a somewhat, like, sophisticated, modest line.

[Jackie]

Free idea. Make it and I'll buy it. I. I'm not gonna do it because, as we just discussed, it's impossible.

[Turo]

It's impossible things. I will never be a clothing designer.

[Jackie]

You never know. Watch. I actually think we would be great.

[Turo]

I'm gonna be the head of Chanel. Yeah. We would crush it. Was that the fifth?

[Jackie]

That was the fifth and final.

[Turo]

And any TV you want to recap. I watched the second to last episode of the Summer I Turned Pretty. And I just want to say I'm hating every minute of the show. I wish all the characters on the show would just, like, never see each other again so I didn't have to watch them. And in the books, I remember, like, you're supposed to dislike certain people, but at the end, it's, like, all about spoiler alert, spoiler alert. So spoiler alert. It's all just like otp, Conrad and Belly. And even now I'm like, please. You two are miserable. I don't even want you to be together. You're both ugly and stupid. I hate them all hating everyone. Everyone is dumb except Taylor.

[Jackie]

Taylor. What about Stephen?

[Turo]

He's fine. He's fine. She hasn't been seen in two years. I. I think the acting's also getting worse. It's just. It's bad. Yeah. That's like the big reveal in the finale, it's Shayla. Then I'll watch.

[Jackie]

But I'm boycotting with Shayla. Like, I stand with her.

[Turo]

Oh, so you haven't watched since she left?

[Jackie]

No, she was my favorite character. Her and Steven. And then she just, like, didn't get asked back for season two. Like, I, like, I'm gonna put my money where my mouth is. I'm not watching this crap anymore.

[Turo]

What are you watching?

[Jackie]

Well, I've been watching Real Houses in Miami.

[Turo]

Oh, right.

[Jackie]

Really making a lot of progress. Like, we're in Seville. The girls are fighting. Stephanie is tough. Like, she's tough because, like, I want to like her.

[Turo]

I watched the first few episodes with Stephanie, and she just came off, like, unlikable.

[Jackie]

I've, like, on paper, she has all the makings of a great housewife. She is so wealthy. She has a plane that she can actually use. And, like, yeah, people on at her disposal. A lot of husbands. A lot of girls have, like, a plane that's, like, their husbands or the husband's companies, but, like, they can't be going on girls trips with it.

[Turo]

Right.

[Jackie]

But no, she really, like, she flew herself and, like, three of the girls to Seville. She.

[Turo]

Which girls?

[Jackie]

Okay, so she chose Larsa, of course, and then Julia because it was Julia's trip. And I think she likes Julia because her husband loves Martina.

[Turo]

Got it. I feel like Julia gets, like, a lot of extra, like, special treatment from just random things in her life because.

[Jackie]

People love Martin because, like, they went on a double date, Martina and Julia and Stephanie and Massoud, and he's, like, not really given, like, that much to the show, but, like, he's, like, talking to Martina. The girls go off to talk and, like, Martina Massoud, he's like, your arms at Wimbledon were incredible. They showed a picture. They really. They really were. They were like, so when she won, they were so taught. Like, and he remembers that from, like, 30 years ago.

[Turo]

I'm just looking up these photos. Oh, my God. I literally don't recognize her. Oh, yeah. Her arms.

[Jackie]

Her arms. So I think that Stephanie. I honestly, I could see a world where, like, Massoud and Stephanie decided to join the show because that's how big of a family.

[Turo]

Just to meet Martina, because she was.

[Jackie]

Fighting with Alexi in one episode, and because. And Alexia, like, dropped something. Like, well, your life isn't so perfect or you wouldn't be in the show. Which meaning, like, why would you come up? Like, your life is so perfect, and it does look so perfect and successful.

[Turo]

It's actually so your marriage looks Amazing.

[Jackie]

And it really does. So why would you go on Housewives? Like, right? So. But I honestly, now I think it's to meet Martina.

[Turo]

I wasn't loving Stephanie. I liked that she had amazing style. When you have so much money, like, you can buy everything at Chanel, like, it's easy to have good style, but you could tell, like, she really has an eye for it.

[Jackie]

Yes.

[Turo]

And, yeah, the plane, like, it's exactly what I want from a housewife. But I don't know. Something's, like, not connecting for me.

[Jackie]

Yeah. No, on paper, like, everything is good. And I really like her outfits, too. And I like that she's a strong personality. But some of the things that she says are, like, the hard lines that she draws I just, like, don't completely agree with. So she invited Julie on the plane, and then she had one more seat, and she invited. Well, I. And I don't understand why she could only have, like, four passes.

[Turo]

Right.

[Jackie]

It's a big plane. Yeah. So she invited Marisol because she's getting along really well with Marisol. She's not been getting. She keeps, like, fighting with Alexia. They, like, can't see each other, even though they would both, like, get along in there. Like, Martin, Larsa, Marisol, Stephanie, Alexia are all in, like, a little friend group, but they keep butting heads. Anyways, she invites Marisol. Marisol's like, I'm not leaving Alexia to fly.

[Turo]

Yeah, right.

[Jackie]

This is also, like, a trip for her, even though I don't understand how it is, but okay. And so she. Stephanie was like, okay. And so Stephanie invited Alexia to fly with them. And Alexi was like, I'm not leaving Marisol.

[Turo]

I'm like, oh, right.

[Jackie]

Why couldn't you bring the two of them? I don't understand.

[Turo]

I thought you were gonna say Alexa said yes. I'm like, oh, my God, that's so mean. Marisol said, no.

[Jackie]

I thought she was asking Alexia to be like, I'm gonna bring on a fifth person. But she. L could not bring a fifth person on the plane. I don't understand.

[Turo]

I don't understand that either.

[Jackie]

Then when they're in Seville, they're going.

[Turo]

Oh, maybe, by the way, because. Did they film on the plane?

[Jackie]

They did. Maybe because of production crew members. Yeah, maybe that. I. I thought that too. But, like, I'm sorry. Someone could sit on the toilet seat for takeoff. It's not a big deal. Then when they're in Seville, they're going to Marbella for the day to see Julia's friend, which is a 22 minute flight. So Stephanie is keeping her plane in Seville to fly everyone to Marbella. Oh, she's rich for the day and back. But Claudia, the way she is holding it over everyone's head is so insane. I feel like I'm missing something because she's like, the girl. They, at every meal, they're all fighting. Larson, Lisa, it's so bad. Then Kiki and Adriana start fighting. Like, everything is just getting crazy. And she's, like, flipping out. She's like, I can't have you all on my plane if you're going to act like this. Like, I'm like, what do you mean? What do you think they're going to do?

[Turo]

No, in a situation like that, like, book me. It's a 22 minute flight off.

[Jackie]

Like, she was like, can everyone behave for 20? I don't think there is commercial flights. Like, I don't even, I don't. I think it's really.

[Turo]

I'll miss the day trip to Marbella.

[Jackie]

So she was like, if people can't behave for the 22 minute flight, like, I'm not bringing you back. Like, oh. She had like, I'm like, what, what is the plane gonna do? Like, fall out of the sky if the girls are screaming? Like, I don't understand, like, distract them. Like, I don't see what the real issue is. Like, but she keeps talking about it. She's so nervous about it. And then the morning of. Marcel and Alexia are like, we're not coming. Marisol and Alexa, they're like, oh. Like. Because she was, like, saying, you know, you have to take your shoes off. She had, like, a memo. She said she doesn't like poop. I don't think she wanted anyone to poop on her plane. Like, and they were like, she's just too bossy. Like, we don't. Yeah, we're not going. The day wound up, like, being really amazing in Marbella, and it all worked out and everyone got along and everyone's, like, dancing and having.

[Turo]

Did Alexia and Marisol go, no.

[Jackie]

And now, like, Stephanie is, like, so offended that they didn't go. But, like, don't invite people to act like that. Like, don't hold it. And like, it was just, it was so nasty. No good deed.

[Turo]

Like, yeah, so.

[Jackie]

I'm, I'm, I'm okay with Stephanie because she's, like, friends with Larson. I, I, I, I.

[Turo]

And she has a plane.

[Jackie]

She adds value. But I'm not, like, entirely, like, like, riding for her. Riding for her. And, but sometimes when she fights with Alexi. I'm like, you're right or you're right. But now, like, I don't know what's going to happen with Maris. She's always been good friends with. With Marisol. Now Marisol has, like, not gone on the plane, and she's so offended, she.

[Turo]

Kind of sends Miz. Honestly.

[Jackie]

Yeah, but, like, it's. It's. It's good entertainment.

[Turo]

Adds value to a show.

[Jackie]

Like arguing with someone at every meal. Love that for her. And then also moving on.

[Turo]

Right on her plane.

[Jackie]

Yeah, but, like, moving on is an important part of being a housewife. Like, every episode, there are new people fighting.

[Turo]

It's true.

[Jackie]

While Larson, Lisa remain the same, but it's very fresh, and that's why it's a really good season. But then they all had this fight at this restaurant, and something must have happened, because all of a sudden, they all start getting up there, like, this is the most embarrassing thing I've ever been a part of. They all go back. Stephanie comes back to the hotel, like, crying. She can't believe, like, that people would act this way. And I feel like we missed something because they. They talk like that at every meal.

[Turo]

All the time. Yeah.

[Jackie]

And then all of a sudden, it was like a switch flipped, and people like Larsa, Marisol, Alexia, and Stephanie all left the restaurant. They were like, we will not be a part of that. That was humiliating.

[Turo]

I'm like, oh, I wonder.

[Jackie]

Well, what. Why Manish Tanaha, Lila Haze. Why is this different from all others?

[Turo]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Jackie]

Someone let me know if you know some inside baseball.

[Turo]

Tomorrow's Friday, which just feels like. Like it's almost too soon.

[Jackie]

It's like, Friday, but we'll see you then.

[Turo]

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[Jackie]

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