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Today's episode of the Toast is brought to you by Dolclax. Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast.
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It's Jackson Claude and we're your host.
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It's your favorite show, the Fast 5 things you need to know. We'll start your day off.
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Swirly.
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It's the Toast.
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I sound amazing.
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Welcome back to the Toast and happy Wednesday. Yeah, it's Wednesday. Hump day, not Wednesday.
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That's a win.
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So much TV to watch last night. It's obviously Wednesday. I would know. I would know it's Wednesday because of the amount of time I sat on my ass last night and watched tv. Yeah, so many hours.
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Summer house, transition in the city.
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Watch what happens live the Knicks game off campus. I'm seriously like a brain rot Gen Z teenager.
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Had you watched Nick's game and off
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campus after the Knicks game went really late, it was kind of like I
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knew Zach was out with your husband and I went to sleep before he got home.
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So I was like, they were out. But once I didn't watch what happens live Once in the city was over. Which, by the way, towards the end in the city, I was getting so bored.
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I'm like, I've been bamboozled into watching a show that I actually didn't really want to watch.
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I probably wasn't going to watch it had it not been first command of all. But, like, meeting new people. Like, I was just getting so bored at the end. And honestly, I don't know how many times we could beat the dead horse of like, Kyle and Amanda. It was not some great love. Like, I was just. I found it interesting in the beginning and then I love seeing the girlies and Lindsay. But like, towards the end I was
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like, hard to meet new people, you
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know, especially when, like, these are the people we're meeting. I had a lot of issues with some of the people that we met.
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Like, who actually, let's start with the positive. Was there anyone that we liked, you
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know, who was like, looking good and not bothering me?
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Andrea, Danielle, always looking good.
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She, like, I don't know what she. I think this Bob is like, really serving her. And I don't know what it was about her, but she, like, wasn't bothering me in the way that she usually does. I thought she was being cute. Her boyfriend's spelling of his name is my personal Super Bowl. It is, bar none, the craziest thing that's ever happened on this show.
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It is the super bowl of name spelling and extraneous vowels.
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So. And it's Also, just like, it's Owen Yone, but no, it's literally just Owen.
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Why think I'm calling him Owen for one second?
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I can't imagine that we're actually going to be calling him a lot. Like, I don't foresee him being. That's what's crazy.
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I think they're the central drama because he's married.
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Oh, right, right, right, right.
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We just learned that I was, like,
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exciting excited when we were meeting new people, and it was like, Lindsay's mom friends. Like, what? Like, they just seemed, like, interesting, cool girls. That's what I thought the show was going to be. And then, like, the more we expanded, I got such. Such bad vibes from Kenny. And, like, I was excited because I knew Whitney from the Bachelor.
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What's so funny is Whitney was on the Bachelor. She made it to the top eight of. Whose season was that? Nick. I think it was Nick. Okay. Astrid. Yeah. Yeah. Because Whitney and Asher were, like, best friends, and they looked like. And we actually don't know anything about her personality because, like, she never spoke on the Bachelor.
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Yeah.
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We just, like, know that she's very beautiful.
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So.
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So when she came on the show and she was like, I'm this positive, like, girl. I'm like, I didn't know that about you.
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It just. It wasn't working for me. One, I think they're just super mismatched. And when they introduced Kenny as, like, Kyle's friend who has a lot in common because they love to party, I was like, oh, yikes. I just got really bad vibes. I. I liked Lindsay's read on him also, like, yeah, we're just like, she did move across the country for you. It is a really big deal. So all that to say, like, by the end of the show, like, once we were out of Amanda, once they went back seven months, it was just a show. Like, it's just an episode of the Valley.
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Yeah. And I was like, I can't believe I'm watching this now. That's, like, not what I wanted to watch. But I'll watch it because, like, it's germane to Wes Mandeval then.
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That's why I then started watching the Nick game. Cause Ben was out, and they were, like, losing by 20, 30 points. So I was, like, slowly falling asleep. Cause, like, it was over. And then I felt Ben get into bed, I don't know how many hours later. And he was like, I don't know who he was talking to. Cause I was asleep. He was like, they won't like, are you talking to me? And I was like, wait, they did? So I must have missed something major because Timothy Chalamet posted an Instagram. No.
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Oh. That's why I didn't know anything about it.
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You think Tyler and Kimothy. I cannot say their names. Kimothy. Timothy and Kylie are gonna get married. Like, do you think they'll get engaged this year?
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I don't know if marriage is on the table for them at all.
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For Kylie or for him?
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For Kylie, I guess. Like, why not?
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I just feel like I never would have thought, but, like, this year, I don't know, they feel so serious, like, all the. And now it's just like, she talked about.
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I definitely think they're gonna have babies. I don't know if they're gonna do the marriage.
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But her and Travis never got married. Yeah, the Kardashians, like, don't get married.
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Yeah, they don't.
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Because when they do, it's so bad.
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Yeah.
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I wonder, like, if there's a poly market, like, what are the chances that Kylie and Timothy are gonna get engaged this year? Hold on.
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I don't see engagement for them. So I would be on, like, the opposite.
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You know what? Saying 33% chance.
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They're saying.
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That's really low.
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That is low.
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I kind of feel, like, a little bit higher, but I guess more so it's just because Kylie's, like, not marriage girly is what I feel. I love these pop culture predictions.
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Yeah. I feel like that's not her. Her benchmark, you know, for, like, what
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is a successful relationship or, like, yeah, definitely having kids. And did she say on therapist that she wanted to have more kids?
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She. He didn't ask that question. But we. She has said it before, and I feel like asking it now would be like. Like, pointed because then it's like, are you looking for kids with your boyfriend Timothee Chalamet?
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Right. Well, you can download the app now on polymarket and use code toast to skip the wait list and be the first in line when those pop culture markets hit live.
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I love that.
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Yeah, me too. So I watch so much tv. Like, seriously, Gen Z, Brainrot. I also finished. I actually didn't even finish off campus, but I finished my journey with off campus. Yeah. You know, I hate to be an A sayer because I know so many people are liking it. Like, I get it sometimes you like, like, brain rot stuff, but you guys, it's bad. Like, I'm sorry. And people did not. Like, people didn't. Like, when I said that, like, this
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happens all the time. Where, like the thing is actually bad.
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Like not all the time.
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Actually not with everything.
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We have a high bar. We have a high bar. This is really not good, you guys. Like, it's so corny. It's Hallmark. But then like we got into Lifetime because like there was some like, you know, they covered the topic of domestic violence.
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Like, it's Degrassi.
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Oh my God, it's too grassy. Like it's so corny. I can't take it. And like, it's just not giving anymore. So I.
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Again, if Degrassi came out today, like, you guys would be sad.
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Oh, absolutely.
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Five year old Degrassi did come out today.
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It's called off campus, Right. Yeah.
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Right. And that's what you're watching.
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Two episodes left. I'm. I'm personally. Maybe I'm too old or maybe I'm too mature. Maybe I'm too wise. Like, I'm done.
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I'm happy to hear it. You have to have know your boundaries.
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Yeah.
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And your limitations.
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I also feel like I. So I'm pretty much caught up on my contemplate, of course, for the three books that I have to read. But also I have two episodes of Rowry to catch up on. And this, this fight between Kelsey and Rosie. Did you watch it?
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No, but everyone's talking about it.
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I will get caught up by the end of the week so we can talk about it. But everyone's talking about it. And Rosie was on Watch Evans Live.
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It couldn't have been last night, but maybe tonight.
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Yeah, maybe tonight. I. I love to see that. Like, I think Rosie won the fight.
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I'm seeing that sentiment. Yes. But I don't really want to, like, engage too much because I really want to have my own opinion.
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Yeah, I agree.
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Watch it at some point.
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Hopefully before the end of the week. Yeah.
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Yeah, maybe tonight.
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Yeah. Because Thursday there's another Knicks game. Like, I'm so. I'm literally Samantha from Sex and Setting. I'm actually Kylie from Keeping up with the Kardashians.
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But what did Samantha do?
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Samantha starts dating this guy in this one episode that's like obsessed with sports, specifically the Knicks. And she says she doesn't get laid unless the next win. And so she like gets really into basketball. Like finally the Knicks lose like for the season and she's kind of relieved. And then he like turns on baseball. Like, it's funny episode. People always like, compare Kylie to that. But like, also me.
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Yeah. Oh, that's really funny.
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Yeah.
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Well, I want to get into the stories because I want to talk about Summer House. Like, yeah. In an official trailer came out. And, like, that's just.
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Did you feel like. It was a really long trailer, which I appreciated.
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Yeah.
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Just in terms of, like, it felt
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long because I was, like, watching it on my phone, so I was like, is. Is there a time limit?
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It also felt long because, like, I. I literally kept pausing. Like, I had to, like, see people's faces. And you know what I'm just now realizing? West was not in the inaugural episode of in the City, was it?
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He's not on in the City. He. He's not, like, a single.
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Oh. I don't know why I thought he was.
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Maybe he'll be on it, like, when him and Amanda get together, because she's on it now. They're eligible, but he's just a random single. Like, Jesse Solomon's not on in the City. Carl's not even on.
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Right.
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Yeah. Oh, we did get to see more of Lindsay's apartment.
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It's so nice.
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It's so nice.
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Gemma's so cute. I. I found that interesting that Gemma was on the show because she's like a. A swirly who doesn't put her baby on social media.
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So Andy asked her about that on Watch what happens live.
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Oh.
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He said, we've had many conversations about it. Andy has spoken to Turner about it as well, because Turner is the one who doesn't want Gemma on social media and otherwise, I don't think. I think if it were up to Lindsay, she would have Gemma on social media. So she said one, like, this is her job. She can't embark on a show about her as a mom without showing her being a mom, and she decided to just, like, pick her battles. Like, she's fine to keep Jem off of social media if that's what Turner wants, but she's putting Gemma on TV because that's what she needs to do in order to provide for her daughter.
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I feel like she is, like, interesting and beloved enough that she could have gotten away with not putting on.
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I don't think it's that important to her.
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It's not.
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It's her versus Turner, not Turner and Lindsay. Verse the world.
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Yeah. Okay. Interesting. And Andy Cohen doesn't show his kids either, right? He, like, stopped, did he?
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Yeah, he doesn't.
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But, like, when they were. I think the first one, when he was little, Andy did, and maybe, like, something happened that, like, he got a bad vibe because now he doesn't at all. Like, we've never seen the girl.
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Oh, interesting.
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There aren't a lot. Oh, I was thinking the other day, do we think Alex Cooper is going to show her baby on social media? I don't think so either. Especially after you've been through like, not that she's been canceled, but once you've been through like a scandal scorn by
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the Internet, you see a really ugly
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side of it that you would never
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willingly put the most precious thing in the world to you.
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So maybe before this she might have one day, but now I don't think so.
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I'll be curious.
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Me too.
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But she also just doesn't share that much personal stuff and I don't think she wants her Instagram to be. First of all, she's not like an Instagram content creator. She posts.
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She doesn't share her life.
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She posts like produced. Her produced content. Yeah, it's not like daily stories. And so I think she can get away with like not. She doesn't want to make her whole thing like a motherhood page. I. I actually don't think it's germane to her Instagram account.
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Yeah, no, I agree. So I'm poly market predicting that she's not going to. Okay, yeah, we can dive in because we're just like sort of circling the
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house talking about the thing. So let's just talk about the thing. Oh, we majed yesterday. That was like the only major we did maj that we did yesterday.
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I love mahjong. I can't believe like what did I used to do before mahjong?
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I don't know.
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I like literally forsake all my responsibilities to play for mahjong in the middle of the day.
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Like I definitely puttered around and like put more piles away more. Right now I have a pile in my bedroom that if I wasn't playing mahjong yesterday, like I would have put away.
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I was definitely just like really prompt with answering like all my texts and emails. That's no longer who I am. M's taking that for me.
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It's just like a two hour gap. Like I know but it sort of
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spills into cuz I can't do it before and I can't do it after. Drive, of course and like sort of recover from like all the winning.
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Yeah, it's a lot you need to put out in your.
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Oh, like I need to have a daily bounce back email that's like, sorry, don't expect to respond. I'm playing module.
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Send your email again in an hour.
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Try again later.
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That's beautiful.
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Yeah.
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Our first story. Okay, summer house recap. Let's do in the City. Five minutes recap and then reunion trailer.
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Okay, so the finale. I don't remember in seasons past where everybody cried so much at the end of summer. Like, no, it almost felt like they knew something. Even though I'm not trying to be a theorist, but, like, a lot of the seasons and sometimes, like, the girls give, like, a long hug, but it's never so drama. And I'm not even talking about Kyle and Amanda. I'm talking about, like, Sierra and Amanda crying, hugging. Like, why?
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I don't know. Like, maybe. Maybe for them, like, they knew that, you know, Amanda has to go do this big thing and where's her husband? So, like, they're crying for that but it did also feel like everyone was just, like, sad to be leaving each other.
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Yeah.
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They were also probably, like, hungover and just, like, emo, but it was really last day of camp vibes. I also think that on the whole, aside from Kyle and Amanda, like, everyone really bonded this summer and, like, really had a good time, had a lot of fun. They were very, like, enmeshed in each other. And I don't know. I'm trying to, like, not be judgmental that they were crying. No, me neither.
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It's just. They never do. I don't care that they were crying.
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No, I'm just like, like. But you're just going back to the city where you could see person the next day. Like, what. What are we so sad about?
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I think that they had a really good summer, and I think in seasons past, they've sort of looked at this as, like, a job, and they don't really, like, hang out as a group a lot. They don't go out a lot this year. Sierra was saying, like, I went out so much this summer, yet it was more of, like, a camp. And, you know, when you leave camp,
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you cry, you cramp. You do cry when you leave camp. But also, friends are going, like, all across the country.
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Right.
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It won't be, you know, you have to go back to school. But, like, these people, they could rent
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the house next weekend. Yeah. If they wanted to. It was weird. So it did feel like foreshadowing some. Something. Yeah, it was, like, spooky.
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It did a lot of people and even Kyle. I mean, I think they used this specific audio because it's. It was sort of like how Lala was foreshadowing the end of Trump's rules. Like, how the group will, like, never be the same. And, like, yeah, they. I don't know when Kyle spoke those words, but they put it at a very apt time because it really foreshadowed the fact that things will never be the same.
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Oh. Sierra and Wes, like, hooked up. Like, they made out the last night, which obviously makes this whole Amanda thing, like, we've been sort of waiting, like, did they ever rekindle? And I don't know what happens after the summer, but I do believe they, like, went on a date or two because Dumas spotted them out.
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Well, like, of course, because. So here we are now. They leave the Hamptons. They just had, like, this makey outy night. They like each other. They're back to being friends. Like, they're gonna, like, text that day. The next day, they're gonna See each other in the city, like, I need to know. And we'll find out what happened next because something more happened. Whether it was another breakup or they tried to give it another go, like, more has happened. You don't just, like, have that sort of night with your best friend, right? You love.
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And it was hard to watch that scene of them kissing. Like, it was just painful. There was a really bothersome scene where, like, West, I think he thought he was being, like, really open and vulnerable with Ben when they were at, like, that snow party and they're laying there and he's talking about how, like, he's, you know, so glad that he's back on good terms with Sierra. And he, like, doesn't really want to rekindle things. Just was like, you know, like, last time, his mistake was that he didn't tell her that he couldn't do a serious relationship. And it's like, do you have a disability that you can't do a serious relationship? You're talking about it like you physically cannot do it. When it's like, this is a girl. You've literally said in one breath, I'm so attracted to her. We have, like, the most amazing chemistry. She's my person. She's literally my best friend. But, you know, I have this disability. What do you mean? Like, why?
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B
I know. I wish Ben, I think that was
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A
him thinking he was, like, being evolved, like, owning that. But, like, wait, why?
- [19:06]
B
No, I wish Ben had said, like, like, why not?
- [19:09]
A
Is there something being serious barring you from physically being able to do it? Like, he just kept saying that, being like. And we're supposed to think he's like, mature for understanding that. But, like, what are you talking about? This is the girl you're sexually attracted to, you're emotionally attracted to. You're literally in love with her. You guys tell each other that you love each other. You, like, make out all that. What are you talking about?
- [19:26]
B
No, I don't understand people who are so, like, allergic to monogamous serious relationships because. And I'm sure one day when he enters one, maybe it's not with Amanda because they're having a terrible time, but I think one day when he enters one, like, he will realize it's actually amazing. It's way more fun than watch parties and hooking up with fans. Like, it's great.
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A
But is that why, like, because he wants to hook up with fans? Look at Kyle Cook, a 43 year old who hooks up with. Does anybody look at Kyle Cook's life and think, yeah, that's where I want to be at 43.
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B
I don't know. But what's so crazy is, like, west is Kyle 15 years prior. This staying out late, the refusal to get serious. Like, and it's so crazy that, like, Amanda is going for the exact sort of guy, but that young Kyle is going for the same girl that young Kyle went for. When it doesn't work out for old Kyle.
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A
The thing. The difference between old Kyle and current west is west is worse because Kyle, like, was always very clear about who he was. Like, that's why I kind of, like, I do blame Amanda. Like, we knew you knew. Kyle has not changed. He is who he is. West is this truly awful guy under the guise of, like, woke. Like, he's like, I love women, and we need to respect and boundaries. He uses, like, therapy talk. While quite literally being the worst human being alive, Kyle was very upfront about. He has not changed one bit. Like, you can say all you want about him, but he's consistent.
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B
But he's just, like, the same guy. Different generation. They just have.
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A
Different generation.
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B
They just have different words that they use for it.
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A
Different. Like, no, but Kyle was never trying to pull the wool over anyone's eyes about who he was. Like, for real.
- [21:03]
B
I guess. But what I also don't understand is in. In this city, like, they're in therapy, Their relationship is done. It seems like Kyle does not want to get divorced.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Watch what happens. Live. Like, he's talking about Amanda. Like, like, he would take her back.
- [21:14]
A
I just want to say how he's treating her post west mandible. Like, I never thought I'd say this, but, like, it kind of points to him being a good guy because he could so go after Amanda, be the hero. That. But, like, he. I don't know if you saw, like, she was at the in the City premiere, and, like, obviously, everyone, like, she's, like, radioactive. Nobody wants to be near. And he's grabbing her, like, taking all the pictures. He made her come. He keeps talking to press, being like, he's really worried about. Even when she walked into his apartment, he was like, you're so skinny. Like, I don't know. It's giving.
- [21:41]
B
Good guy. Also giving. There was so much hatred in their marriage, and it wasn't coming from him. Like, he does not hate her. No, he loves her.
- [21:48]
A
I know. It's really sad.
- [21:50]
B
She hated him. Oh. So here's what I was saying. Like, what I don't understand. So they're in therapy. Therapy. They're not living together. He Wants to stay married. Truly, he loves her and she just, like, can't deal with, amongst other things, the partying, the going out late. So the night before therapy as a DJ gig, which I forgive him for being a DJ personally, because once I now I understand financial strain, financials, and I want to talk about them. He needs to be a dj. That is where.
- [22:13]
A
Right.
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B
Where he's actually making money that he can, like, use to live his life
- [22:16]
A
or funnel into the business.
- [22:17]
B
No, but, like, I think, like, the summer house money goes to the. Like, he needs, like.
- [22:20]
A
No, he needs money.
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B
He needs money. So he's a DJ. Fine. Forgiven. He's DJing till 2am Then she said he stayed out for another two hours and didn't come home till 4am when you have, like, therapy the next day and you're trying to work on your marriage and, like, that's the exact thing she wants you to stop doing. I. I don't. I would ask him, like a toddler. I. Why did you do that?
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A
Why can you not stop doing the thing that she wants you to stop doing? But you want to be married so bad.
- [22:42]
B
Why can't you stop being out past 2am?
- [22:44]
A
You're like 45.
- [22:46]
B
I just don't understand it.
- [22:48]
A
Yeah. It's like, Wes, like, do you have some sort of disability that stops you from going home before 2am?
- [22:52]
B
What is it? I don't know, like, that I really. I can't understand him. If I'm Amanda, I'm like, well, there's no working on this if you're going to be out till 4am yeah.
- [23:01]
A
And also, I think that, like, Amanda's pretty much made up her mind, but she doesn't want to say it yet. And so she's going through the motions. Therapy, taking some time apart, me moving out. And I think that's making it worse because I think it gives Kyle hope.
- [23:11]
B
Yeah.
- [23:12]
A
And then not only does she. I don't think that her and Wes cross timelines. I really don't. But it looks like she moved on so quickly. But she's been checked out. I feel like she decided at the end of summer and they don't really technically divorce till November. January, I think that they separated for.
- [23:28]
B
Yeah, yeah.
- [23:29]
A
Right. The statement was January. So it's a lot of months of, like, her being, you know, kind of on the road to recovery. And he's still in it.
- [23:35]
B
Yeah.
- [23:36]
A
So her, like, her decision paralysis is, I think, making it worse.
- [23:40]
B
Yeah. But I think sometimes, like, you have to, like, slide and.
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A
Yeah.
- [23:43]
B
Decision. You can't Just, like, flip a switch. Otherwise, it's too startling. So, yeah, I understand why for her, but, like, for him, it's.
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A
It's.
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B
He's been in denial the whole time.
- [23:51]
A
The reunion trailer, like, is giving scandal. Everyone's obviously coming, mostly for Wes, just because, like, he's really left Amanda to hang out. Like, he doesn't say one word in the trailer. Yeah, he didn't say one word in the leaked audio.
- [24:02]
B
He's, like, not speaking about the grandma.
- [24:04]
A
I feel like everyone's moved on from the grandmother. I personally haven't. And, yes, it's a huge factor here. Although I will say, like. And I don't know if I'm allowed to say this, but, like, I really. Seeing Amanda not only at the in the city premiere, but also showing up at Kyle's apartment, like, weighing three pounds. Like, I do feel bad for her. And, like, it's like, I feel like she's been punished. Like, yeah, she's been punished. And, like, it's okay.
- [24:28]
B
Yeah. I think the reunion will sort of, like, be the last thing watching. I mean, the film. So now watching it, and then we can, like, start figuring out where we go from here. What does next summer look like? How did the fans feel? But, like, we have to. I need to hear what she has to say. How she can remotely justify this when the person she was this summer to Sierra, like, ride or die, would do anything for her, would kill west if she needed to. How that person then becomes the one sitting on that couch, like, mad that you're mad at me that I'm dating the guy that you liked all summer that you cried over with me. It's. It's. I need to see the reunion because right now it seems like she's had a brain injury.
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A
Lobotomy. Yeah. The viral moment from the trailer that everyone's talking about, and I think everyone's like, yes. Eric Slay is like. Like, Sierra's talking to Wes and Amanda being like, Amanda, you think he loves you? Like, he's literally only with you to spite me.
- [25:18]
B
Yeah. She said, over the past six years, I've been your champion. I couldn't fathom that I'd be sitting here pissed that you're my ex. He wants to embarrass me. He wants to get his last little word. And I hope it works because he's with you to spite me.
- [25:30]
A
And I do feel like that really points to just, like, a genuine misunderstanding on Sierra's part, like, of this whole west saga. I feel like her issue with west is that, like, he never considers her. He never fact. It's very big and carry coded, like were so clearly endgame. And you don't even consider me. You don't even think about me. So to say that, like he had this elaborate relationship to get back at Sierra. Like, if only he cared that much. That's like our issue with him. So that's not it at all. It's just him being honestly a thoughtless little pig.
- [25:57]
B
Yeah. However, if what she's saying, like, I need to see what happened.
- [26:01]
A
What's the context?
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B
Like, what happened after this?
- [26:03]
A
Right, Right.
- [26:04]
B
He mad at her. Did he want to date her? And she said no. And now he's trying to spite her. Like, what happened? I'm looking.
- [26:09]
A
Why is she saying that?
- [26:10]
B
As to why she would say that? Because based on what I've seen so far, it couldn't be further from the truth.
- [26:13]
A
I wish he, like, was that thoughtful and elaborate to hurt her. Like, that means you care about her. And the whole thing is, like, he really doesn't. Because if he did, he never would have up with her that night.
- [26:24]
B
Yeah.
- [26:24]
A
You can't. She's so clearly in love with him. It's like, literally, you could see it in the air.
- [26:28]
B
Like, it's so palpable, giddy.
- [26:29]
A
Yeah.
- [26:30]
B
And it just means something. So he's hot, he's happy.
- [26:33]
A
It means something so different to them. It's so sad.
- [26:35]
B
Yeah.
- [26:36]
A
It was very hard to watch. And then in the city, like, I'm sorry, I was bored, but only because, like, it's new people and you know me, I'm like, so stubborn.
- [26:43]
B
Yeah.
- [26:43]
A
I'm sure it's gonna be show and I will watch it. But like, seriously, just give me Lindsay. Like, I don't care about anyone else.
- [26:48]
B
I know, but you have to, like, put in the work to, like, come to belove, you know, New Lindsay and
- [26:52]
A
I literally, like, had one of my birthday parties at the Garrett. Like, in another life, I would have ended up on the show.
- [26:56]
B
Totally.
- [26:56]
A
Yeah.
- [26:57]
B
Also that couple where she like, left for a few days and he didn't notice Yvonne. That was weird.
- [27:04]
A
That was weird.
- [27:05]
B
They're giving weird.
- [27:06]
A
Yeah. And those. That's actually what we need. Like, that's the type of I like to watch. But I was so sort of like blown away by Whitney and Kenny. Like, I couldn't get over them. I think that they're such a bad couple. Like, pairing wise, somebody said it's giving Jackson Brittany, like, you know, sweet girl moves out to the big city for you and you're like, we're just taking it day by day.
- [27:27]
B
I just want to say Whitney has been an influencer for like, almost 10 years now. She knows what she's doing, I think.
- [27:33]
A
Oh, I didn't get the vibe from her personality that she's like, real, like,
- [27:36]
B
killer, you know, I don't think she's killer, but I don't think she's like, so naive. Leave. Like, I think that maybe she moved to the city to be on the show with him.
- [27:44]
A
Yes. Like, which is also giving Brittany Cartwright. It's a good comparison somebody made on Twitter.
- [27:49]
B
I think Whitney's been living in la. Like, she said she was a Midwest girl. She's from there, but I think she's been living in LA since the Bachelor.
- [27:56]
A
How do they even mean?
- [27:57]
B
I don't know.
- [27:58]
A
I just got such bad vibes.
- [27:59]
B
No, I think I'm. It's not Brittany Cartwright who literally came like, fresh off. Fresh off the farm.
- [28:05]
A
Yeah.
- [28:05]
B
Right into Hollywood.
- [28:07]
A
I thought it was a good comparison.
- [28:09]
B
Sister's a really big influencer, right? Did I make that up?
- [28:12]
A
I think her sister is an influencer, like in the same way that she is.
- [28:16]
B
Or is there an influencer who has the same last name as her?
- [28:18]
A
No, no, I think that.
- [28:19]
B
What's the name of the sister? Jacqueline Franz West.
- [28:24]
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [28:24]
B
Is that her sister?
- [28:25]
A
I think so. I think she lives in Florida.
- [28:30]
B
Oh, of course, Instagram doesn't let you actually like see people's handles when to comes.
- [28:33]
A
It just. They'll give you an AI generated description of them and where they went to school. She's 2.2. Boom. Oh, on tick tock.
- [28:41]
B
She's 270 on Instagram. Anyway. So like she's of this world is all I want to say. Oh yeah, like, you know, bright eyed, bushy tailed.
- [28:49]
A
I don't know. It's giving bright eyed. But her walking through and like talking to her dog while her dog makes a poop, like is giving bright eyed and bushy.
- [28:55]
B
I think she also just has like a really bubbly and lovely personality.
- [28:58]
A
I think she has like a soft voice. I mean, we'll see how it plays out. Like, how he treats her and like,
- [29:02]
B
could he call her a doll one more time? I don't know why that was really giving me the ick.
- [29:06]
A
No. And like, even he was like saying. Describing her to Kyle when.
- [29:11]
B
And comparing her to Amanda. That really bothered me.
- [29:13]
A
Yeah. I don't know. He gives me really bad vibes.
- [29:15]
B
Yeah, he does. I. I did not like he does, but it's promising. Maybe she's using him, by the way.
- [29:22]
A
I think that's entirely possible. Which I'm also down for.
- [29:24]
B
Yeah.
- [29:25]
A
So the show is promising. I just have like, high expectations because, like, I watched it after the Summer House finale and it's like.
- [29:32]
B
And now I'm watching like these randos in a bar.
- [29:35]
A
Like I'm, you know, young. Yeah, a little bit. I'll obviously keep watching a little bit.
- [29:41]
B
Just because of West Manderball.
- [29:42]
A
Yeah.
- [29:44]
B
So Summer House reading next week. Like, can't wait. Seriously can't.
- [29:47]
A
But like literally having a watch party West. I hope you come.
- [29:50]
B
He would love it.
- [29:51]
A
Yeah, I'll send him an invite.
- [29:52]
B
Are you ready for our next story? In no particular order, I would say that was like the main.
- [29:59]
A
Yeah, no, that's like four stories in one.
- [30:01]
B
Yeah. Harry Styles tour stage setup is being reviewed after fans have trashed the viewing experience.
- [30:06]
A
I was wondering if like any of the feedback had gotten back to him.
- [30:09]
B
Well, so this is like not about anything that we've all said, but just like, I guess he like, tried to like, re, like reinvent the wheel.
- [30:18]
A
It's the. The biggest thing I've ever seen. His stage, like, he doesn't need to be doing all that.
- [30:22]
B
Yeah. So he's.
- [30:24]
A
It's bigger. It looks bigger. Or around the same size as the Iris tour.
- [30:26]
B
He's reviewing parts of the stage set up for his tour after some fans complained about restricted views from certain sections in the stadium. So rep for the tour told TMZ he did this, like, this floor concept was designed to give fans freedom of movement and the ability to experience the show from different positions rather than being confined to one fixed viewing angle. That open, free flowing floor experience has always been an essential part of Harry's live show.
- [30:48]
A
Yes. Like, they all do the dance, like, and they do a mosh in the circle.
- [30:52]
B
A small area of the staging in specific floor positions appears to have had restricted sight line. Those areas are being reviewed carefully and adjusted where possible in compliance with all safety restrictions.
- [31:01]
A
Yeah, no, of course. Even though like, restricted view is just a part of tour life. Like, it happens and a lot of times if you go to the box office, they'll like move you around. I just feel like that's not what we're talking about.
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B
It's not what we're talking about. Also, I get guess it's like there's a reason that things are the way they are in terms of like, layout. Layout. This is a stadium, like, right.
- [31:19]
A
We have to consider speakers and fire
- [31:21]
B
exits and like reinventing the wheel. Here maybe was not necessary.
- [31:25]
A
Yeah, I just feel like of all the things that people were different than
- [31:28]
B
like, ga on the floor.
- [31:29]
A
I don't know. He's talking a lot of words about just people standing around.
- [31:32]
B
Like, which sounds like ga. Which ga is like the commonplace pit.
- [31:37]
A
Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna be in the pit.
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B
That's very commonplace.
- [31:41]
A
So I do wonder if, like, any of the feedback, like, when you're an artist at that level. So I guess it's just like person dependent. Like, do you want to know the feedback after opening night? And like, you adjust or you're just like, they don't understand me.
- [31:51]
B
Well, I would say if I were him, like, I would go by how it feels on the stage. Does it feel like everyone's having a great time and the vibes are high? Because that's what matters. How the people. What people are saying online about a little clip that they saw, I wouldn't let get to me because I know what we experienced all there together. So I wonder what the energy is like in the stadium. That's what I'd go off of.
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A
Yeah, I watched, like, I'm obviously on, like, Harry Talk now. I watched this, like, insanely long video of a girl who was there being like, her criticisms, you know, like, this is outlist. Like, I was like, why am I here? So good luck.
- [32:26]
B
What was her criticism?
- [32:28]
A
The set list, the movements.
- [32:30]
B
What? Setless. He has two albums.
- [32:31]
A
Like, yeah, I don't know. But that was like, real niche fan stuff. Like, yeah, I could have nitpicked Taylor's, but that doesn't mean make the ever sore back. She was like, it just like, wasn't my personal vibe. I think that, like, the stage was really, really big and he's like, running around huffing and puffing. And like, even the graphics, I think they were even complaining that, like, the images, like, the graphics were like, really? And yeah, I saw like, an unfortunate clip of his graphics where he had like. He's obviously a runner. He had, like, taken videos of his feet running. Like, that's really crazy.
- [32:58]
B
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So the graphics. Yeah, I guess it's like, hard when people pick apart. You're like, I know, but work so
- [33:06]
A
hard on, like, sorry.
- [33:07]
B
They do it to Katy Perry all the time.
- [33:08]
A
They do it to all female artists. So, like, I am bringing the same energy to. Because people are like, you're being really hard on Harry. I'm like, no, I'm actually being turdy. Like, if I was saying it about a Katy Perry, like, you guys wouldn't have cared.
- [33:17]
B
Like, remember all those clips of Unfortunately, I'm sorry.
- [33:20]
A
She was doing a lot like her. Her vocals were on point. Sorry, one thing about me, like, if your vocals aren't on point when I come to see you sing, or if you're doing the whole, like passing the microphone to the crowd during the best part of the song, like, that's one of my biggest criticisms. So, like, I saw a lot of videos of him, like, not hitting his own notes. Just totally unacceptable to me, honestly. So the same level of critique we all gave the ERAS tour and like literally every female tour is the same energy we're bringing for Harry Styles. Sorry you don't like it. But if a woman ever put together like such a show, honestly, Katy Perry is a great example.
- [33:45]
B
I don't feel like Aristor got this level of critique. The difference is there's always going to be haters. She raised the bar trolls online. Whatever. Her own fans, when they went, nobody
- [33:53]
A
was like, cuz, by the way. Because there was nothing to criticize.
- [33:55]
B
But like, what's. This is like the people there are complaining. It's not just haters online. No, no.
- [34:00]
A
It's like people left the experience being like, I mean, it was good, but like.
- [34:03]
B
Yeah, yeah. That's like anyone who went to the ERA store did not come away with something negative.
- [34:07]
A
Today especially, he's just sort of shot himself in the foot because the pricing was so. It was like. I remember people talking about it before I. The tour even started. So that was the same thing with the ERAS tour. Like, she did all that because people were literally like, selling their cars to go and you have to give people a show. And so the expectations were high because of the pricing and I just feel like maybe, you know, the show fell flat a little bit.
- [34:28]
B
Okay, well, we'll see what happens.
- [34:30]
A
Happens next. Only the first show, so it obviously gets better, but yeah. Yeah.
- [34:34]
B
Our next story is some very exciting news. Love Island USA star Jalen Brown is married.
- [34:40]
A
What?
- [34:41]
B
Jalen Brown. Will you remember him as the people.
- [34:43]
A
Of course. Was there for one night.
- [34:44]
B
He was there for one night.
- [34:45]
A
The truck driver who was in love with Alandria. And think if we were doing like Joe Landria right now instead of Nickelandria.
- [34:53]
B
I know, but he's married. So who to? His girlfriend.
- [34:57]
A
I'm sick.
- [34:57]
B
Yeah, he.
- [34:58]
A
That's like actually really quick turnaround.
- [35:00]
B
Had a courthouse wedding ceremony on May 15th. I mean, he means business.
- [35:04]
A
He's such a serious. Yeah, remember like all those brands, like, because he had said he. This is his first time leaving the country and he got sent home on the first night because of all Landry. I'm so mad at her for that. He loved her so much. And he said it was his first time out of the country. And then all these brands were like, well, it won't be your last. And like, Hilton, American Express, everybody.
- [35:19]
B
He got a million followers.
- [35:21]
A
He got a million.
- [35:22]
B
One day.
- [35:23]
A
He was the first cast member on the show to reach a million followers on TikTok, which when he was on
- [35:28]
B
we watched Mud Love island for one night because he came on. He said, I'm here for.
- [35:33]
A
He came on in leather underwear. Remember he came on during that With Pepe. With Pepe. So wait, who did he marry? Picture.
- [35:41]
B
Yeah. Wait, here, there's a clip.
- [35:43]
A
His.
- [35:43]
B
Her name is Joya. This is what he posted on his.
- [35:46]
A
Seriously? So happy for them. The Browns, 5, 15, 26. Oh, my God. Them doing courthouse. Like, I feel sick. She's the luckiest girl in the world. Like, and that could have been Olandria.
- [35:57]
B
I know. And what's so crazy is, like, he is who he said he was.
- [36:01]
A
Absolutely true. Look at him. And not a year later, he was really looking for love.
- [36:05]
B
Yeah. And that it could have been Alandria.
- [36:08]
A
And, like, I wonder if, like, for one second she regrets that decision. No. Because, like, she's the most famous girl in the world. Like, a part of power couple.
- [36:13]
B
But, like, but imagine what sort of couple they'd be like. We would have loved them. They would have won the show because they were both so beloved.
- [36:19]
A
Right. Nick brings her down. Jalen would bring her up.
- [36:21]
B
Yeah. And she would have love. Instead of being, like, single and trapped in Nickelodeon.
- [36:26]
A
Trapped in Nickelanderland, like, totally. She would have actual love, like, with a man who would worship her.
- [36:32]
B
Yeah.
- [36:33]
A
Like, I don't know how you just can't even give someone a chance who literally comes on the show for you and she can't. And by the way, she was. She didn't even, like, choose Nick over him. She chose Taylor. And then Taylor, you know, very famously, I pick Clark. Picked Clark. Do you know they're still together? I know. And, like, they got so much hate. He got so much hate for picking Clark. And I just want to say they're the real deal.
- [36:54]
B
They are.
- [36:55]
A
I see them on Tick Tock all the time. They're, like, so in love.
- [36:57]
B
But also, when we poke holes in Nickelandria, like, we often cite them, like, their, you know, combined lack of interest in each other. Nick literally had a girlfriend, Alandra, being obsessed with we never talk about Alandra being obsessed with Taylor because Taylor and
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Clark are so otp. Like, we forget about it.
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B
She's hung up on Taylor. She. If she couldn't even give Jaylen the time of day. But now she's with Nick.
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A
Yeah. The crazy thing was that, like, she wouldn't give Jaylen the time of day because of Taylor.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Who, like, had no Riz and, like, very clearly didn't even like her.
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B
Yeah.
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A
I pick Clark. Happy Clark.
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B
And that's that.
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A
I'll be Clark.
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B
Well, I'm so happy for Jaylen.
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A
Me too.
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B
Like, great end to the story.
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A
Love always wins.
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B
No. And it's like, it's nice to see someone go on reality television. Like their life isn't ruined. No, not only that, it's just, like, an added benefit. And then they carry on regular scheduled program.
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A
It's also nice to see somebody go on reality tv, like, saying that they want love and then actually, like, making moves in their life that prove that they did in fact want love. That never happens.
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B
No, it's not. To see someone going on reality TV and, like, being who they said that they were on reality tv.
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A
I knew it. Like, he was so pure.
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B
Yeah. We chose the right one. Okay, which million on Tik?
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A
Which brand is, like, sending them on a honeymoon?
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B
I don't know, but can you check his Tik Tok and see if he's, like, activating and.
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A
You mean, like, posting content?
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B
Posting content and, like, getting sponsorships.
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A
Jaylen Brown, Love Island. Okay. Yeah. Elite.brown. 1.5 million followers. Oh, wait, he posted. Got married to my favorite person in elite shape. Oh, I guess he had went on Jennifer Hudson. So he posts, like, once a week, and it's all, like, fitness stuff.
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B
I just want to say, like, when did he meet his girlfriend?
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A
Oh, are you gonna accuse him of, like, shady timeline?
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B
Like, if they met like, before.
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A
So 4, 18, January, February, March, March 18th. He has a tick tock with her. So they've been together since at least March. Another tick tock on March 2nd. Okay.
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B
Met before Love Island. Like, he went on.
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A
Maybe she's just a girl from his hometown. They met on a cruise. Oh, my God. Maybe one of his sponsored cruises.
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B
They met on a Royal Caribbean cruise in 2025. I'm sorry I ever even entertained the
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A
idea that you did doubt them.
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B
I just wanted to, like, cross all. Oh, wait, my teeth.
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A
This is how me and Joya got this thing started at Royal Caribbean. This is my version. This is my side of the story on how me and Joya met. So of course we met in 2025 in the summertime. I love his accent. By Royal Caribbean Cruise. Stars of the sea shout out to Royal Caribbean. Royal Caribbean Trips has to do their honeymoon. So I got invited out. It was like, a content influencer type deal.
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B
I love him.
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A
Him so much.
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B
So it was right after Love island, one of his sponsored trips, because, remember, a bunch of brands were reaching out to him to let him see the world, and he met her there, so it couldn't be more pure and beautiful.
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A
It's beautiful. Like, it's just.
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B
He hadn't got on Love island, he
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A
wouldn't have met her yet because of his sponsored gig. It's not a girl from home. Like, it's someone he only could have met because of the platform. So we all did that.
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B
Like, this is the greatest news I've ever.
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A
I know. I missed the days where we were all, like, talking about Jalen.
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B
Wait, by the way, Love island premieres on June 2nd, which is, like, in thousand two. Two weeks.
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A
June 2nd.
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B
Less than two weeks.
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A
My content place is already, so.
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B
No. And, like, we're in such a sleep regression. Like, I don't know how I'm gonna watch an episode that's an hour long every night.
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A
I don't know how I'm gonna watch Love island when I'm not on maternity leave. Like, I used to wait the whole day for the episode. Like, there was so. Like, I could have done five episodes a day. I don't know how I'm gonna fit this into it. Try being an influencer for a day. Try it.
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B
No, but I feel like you'll get into a good groove of just watching it every night.
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A
Yeah, but then it's like, what about my other shows? Rhode Island Housewives, Summer House in the City?
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B
This is over.
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A
Like, oh, I guess it will be over. And, like, hopefully finish setting up. IPad off. This iPad is, like, seriously the bane of my existence.
- [40:46]
B
June 2 is, I want to say, it's like a Tuesday and two weeks away.
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A
That's just the way you make me feel. Yeah, that's just the way you make
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B
Ariana for Love Island. So I guess she's hosting again.
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A
Okay, that's good.
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B
Are you ready for our next story?
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Oh yeah, I got my friend matching mommy and me robes when she had a baby.
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A
You can also do mommy and me nap dresses. Like, that's so cute. That's like you need to have a daughter.
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B
Yeah, yeah.
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Thank you. The Turt.
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A
You're welcome.
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B
Our fourth story, the housemaid franchise is expanding with a stage show after the hit movie from the Page to the Stage. Well, from the page to the Screen to the Stage, Lionsgate is turning the Housemaid into a play. The psychological thriller based on the Frida Rita is being developed for the stage by the producers Melting Pot, a British company. Congratulations.
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A
I mean, if you know the premise of the book, like, it actually does sound like a good play. Is it a musical? Like, I can't watch plays that aren't musicals, so unfortunately they play.
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B
It's giving, not a musical.
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A
And I can't see like the housemaid singing.
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B
Actually I can.
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A
I just want to say it would make an amazing musical. I'm personally just not interested in live productions that don't have music. But that's just me. And I know that I saw one. I took a theater class in college and like one of the assignments was to go see a play that wasn't a musical. So of course, you know me. I had to see like, you know, the, the hit show on Broadway that year, Rachel Wise was in it. So dreadful. And actually I got yelled at for eating my popcorn too loud. Like, just awful.
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B
Like really two days in a row of bringing up Rachel Wise.
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A
I know when it rains, it pours. It pours. So also to say, while I would love to support my local theater, if there's not going to be songs like get Pasek and Paul in there.
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B
Yeah, they need to, to set it to music, be a musical, have it be amazing and then make A movie musical.
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A
Oh, I love it.
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B
The Housemate movie musical.
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A
Yeah.
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B
I'm gonna say free computer house made the movie.
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A
The screen, the musical.
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B
I'm gonna say for it could be in it. Because she sings things. Yeah, I don't think Sydney Sweeney sings.
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A
I don't think she does either. And it's a great opportunity, honestly. Like a Renee rap.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Like a young angenue.
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B
Yeah.
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A
I love that she's got Broadway history.
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B
It's like keep running it through the rinse.
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A
Yeah, right. Nobody can create anything original anymore. So like. Sure. And make a play. What the hell?
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B
Legally Blonde. The musical. The movie.
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A
I actually don't know that we do like Legally Blonde. The movie is perfect. But like I know everyone loves it.
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B
Legally Blonde. Oh my God. Oh my God, you guys.
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A
Yeah, I. I happen to like, not like that soundtrack. I know, I know. And I saw the play. I was like, this is dumb. Give me.
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B
I don't even know if I saw the play.
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A
Even though of course if they did Legally Blonde, the musical. The movie, we could have Ava Philippe play a young Ellen. I wonder why she didn't cast Ava as Elle.
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B
But does Eva sing? She would be more likely to play
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A
the prime video series.
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B
I feel like Ava, you know, wants to do her own thing. She really wants to make a name for herself. Doesn't want to be in her parents shadow. Big mistake.
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A
Couldn't be made. Good luck with that.
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B
Are you ready for the vinyl? Some business news.
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A
Chilling. I like the way you said that.
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B
Yeah. Because it's a chilling story. The Mango fashion tycoon family has been embroiled in a bitter dispute. Have you seen this story?
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A
No, I only recently started shopping at Mango. It's kind of parchy.
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B
Okay, so the founder and CEO of Mango fell off of a cliff.
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A
Oh my God.
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B
Well, years ago.
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A
Died and died.
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B
Yes. And so his.
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A
So obviously he was shoved.
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B
So his son like took over the business. He has a couple children. The son that he works with, the closest became like the CEO. But now it's coming out that the son and the father were embroiled in a bitter business dispute at the time of the father's death death. When he plummeted off of a cliff after going on a hike with his son, who his son suggested that they go on a hike.
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A
Did nobody think anything of it at the time?
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B
Like, I guess. No, they didn't. It was just world as an accident because like billionaires don't just fall off of cliffs.
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A
I just want to say, but not to tell you guys how to do your job.
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B
So the son, Jonathan Andic, appeared in court in Barcelona and Dick, A, N, D, I C. Tough name. I don't know how to pronounce it.
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A
Andy, Maybe the C is silent.
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B
Yeah. He appeared in court in Barcelona on Tuesday after he was named a suspect in the death of his father, Isaac. What was a fashion group? Mango.
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A
What was. What were they embroiled in? Like, what was the issue?
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B
So Jonathan, like, took over at the company while the father was still alive, and he brought in an outsider to be the company's chief financial officer. And so that, like, started a falling out between the two. I guess, like, the dad didn't like how the son was running the company. Instead, over the next three years, the company lost around $116 million, forcing the father to come out of retirement and returned to the company as non executive chairman.
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A
I. I think that that's fair.
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B
One of his moves was to remove his son as CEO in 2020.
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A
In 2024, it's giving succession. Like, your kids are morons who can't do your job, but, like, think that they deserve it. And they think that they deserve it.
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B
So in 2024, the father died after plunging down a 320 foot ravine in the mountains of Catalonia during a hike with Jonathan. At the time of his death, he was worth $4.5 billion. A report from the judge in the case said that the dad was trying to change his will to create a charitable foundation at the time of his death. And Jonathan, the son, had allegedly proposed the hike together.
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A
Yeah, me when I want to kill someone, let's go on a hike. Yeah, that's really what I want to
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B
know is, like, why now? Are they opening it back up? Like, what cl?
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A
It sounds like they just found out that there was like, an issue between the dad and the son.
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B
But, like, how did they find that out?
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A
And why? Some emails or something.
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B
It was like, he's closed.
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A
This is like, so TV show.
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B
Yeah, it really is.
- [50:48]
A
Someone I didn't know things like this actually happened.
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B
And then have you heard about the Haley Bieber, like, involvement?
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A
Oh, that they posted a picture of her, like, wearing a Mango bag or something and, like, made it seem like they were doing like a Haley Mango. Haley Mango? Yeah, Haley Bieber x Mango collab. And so she posted on her Instagram story, like, love the bag, but this is not like mine.
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B
Yeah. So she, like, made it clear that, like, this wasn't a collaborative line, that she's like, the face of Mango in this moment. And people think that maybe not Only was she trying to, like, explain her role in the campaign, but maybe, like, distance herself from this, from the drama.
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A
I'm gonna opt to say that that's not the case because I actually hadn't even heard of this until this morning.
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B
Oh, really?
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A
Yeah, the Mango drama.
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B
I saw it.
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A
I see what these people look like.
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B
Yeah, sure. So this.
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A
What else does Mango own?
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B
This is the father.
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A
Classic.
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B
And then this is Jonathan.
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A
I'll tell you, if he's a killer. I could tell with it.
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B
He's, like, in cuffs, looking like a killer.
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A
Oh, okay.
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B
It's gonna. You're definitely gonna be, like, persuaded. He looks like the sort of killer, like, who would just give a light shove to an old man.
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A
Well, only, like. Like, from the back, he doesn't look like the type of person who's. Because he looks like a coward. That's what I was gonna say. But I guess, like, shoving someone off a cliff from the back so they don't even see it, kind of. That's a definition of a coward.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So, yeah, if. If they can prove that he was pushed from the back, then he did it from the front. He doesn't have what it takes.
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B
They should be able to prove that, like, they have, like, trajectories and.
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A
Right. Or just, like. Like a bruise or something.
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B
Yeah. But also, like, the way that he fell, given his.
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A
Right. Oh, God, please never push me off a cliff. If my weight ever becomes.
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B
And like the wind.
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A
Right, right. The Santa Anas.
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B
Yeah. Because this is extremely sus.
- [52:25]
A
Oh, yeah. I mean, it's sus. Before. Billionaires just don't go flying off of cliffs. Like, they just don't. So even before we knew that, they happen. It's so rare to billionaires.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Like, you have to be pretty smart to become a billionaire, and you have to be pretty dumb to fall off a cliff. No, I'm kidding.
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B
No, but he's, like, older. It could happen.
- [52:41]
A
Yeah, I guess. But don't people like that, like, go on walks with, like, security?
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B
I mean, you would hope so, but, like. I don't know. I don't know. So we'll see. So it could be a little bit of patricide.
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A
What's that?
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B
The killing of the father.
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A
Patricide. Is there matricide?
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B
I believe so.
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A
I've never heard of that word before. Like suicide? Yeah. Matricide.
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B
Homicide.
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A
Homicide. Genocide.
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B
Genocide. Patricide.
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A
Matricide, Definitely.
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B
Definitely.
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A
What about, like.
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B
And then if you're gonna murder, like, both parents, like, like the Reiners.
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A
Oh, what's that? Like Latricide.
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B
It also sounds like patricide because, like, parents, right? Patricidal matricide is the actual killing one's mother.
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A
Jesus Christ. Who's coming up with words for this? Double patricide. Double parasite is for both parents.
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B
Wow. Chilling vocab lesson of the day.
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A
Well, that's our show. Thanks for the international business news. I appreciate that.
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B
I do feel like this.
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A
No, by the way, I love it.
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B
And when you.
- [53:47]
A
Well, not that I love it in a documentary now, you know where you heard it first.
- [53:51]
B
Like, you'd be like, oh, yeah. And, yeah, that's really crazy. I feel like we're gonna be hearing more of it.
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A
Oh, I just want to, like, kind of address some of the rumors. Everybody thinks I'm pregnant.
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B
Oh, yeah.
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A
Because I said the other day, like, in all of my pregnancies, when. Oh, my God, I can't flub a word, you guys. I'm not pregnant. Like, seriously, leave me alone. I'm just bad.
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B
Let me just tell you, if she were pregnant, have cut that out.
- [54:11]
A
Oh, right. That's the other thing on red alert. Yeah.
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B
Like, any slip up.
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A
Yeah. Like, obviously, the fact that it's in there is only further proof that I.
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B
And I just want to say, like, I can't deal with, like, everyone always being on pregnancy.
- [54:24]
A
So annoying.
- [54:25]
B
Like, women of a certain age who are married and want children, like, yes, eventually they will hopefully be pregnant. And you're not. You're not a genius for figuring it out.
- [54:33]
A
You crack the case wide open.
- [54:34]
B
So like, every other day, oh, I'm a little bird. She's pregnant.
- [54:37]
A
Yeah, right.
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B
Like, I can't have a flub of the word. She pregnant.
- [54:40]
A
God, can I just live?
- [54:41]
B
Like, seriously, stop. It doesn't make you cool to have figured it out. Even if you figured something out, which you didn't. But I just want to take this moment because we're not pregnant. Because if I was pregnant, I wouldn't be able to say, of course, of course.
- [54:51]
A
But speaker. Sure.
- [54:52]
B
I just want to take this moment. Like, it doesn't make you cool or interesting to predict that the married woman who wants children.
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A
Who already has. Yeah. Okay. So can I just live?
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B
And we didn't even mention the fact that we're twins today.
- [55:03]
A
Oh, yeah. That's like, a weird coincidence.
- [55:04]
B
Fleet twins. I actually thought for a second it was the same sweater.
- [55:07]
A
I like yours.
- [55:08]
B
Thank you. It's Renly.
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A
Mine's nudes.
- [55:10]
B
I love yours. And yours is a set.
- [55:12]
A
Yeah, mine is matching. Like, I can only wear things that have matching bottoms. Like, I don't know.
- [55:15]
B
Usually when you get like, something from like, news or pr, I like, it's on.
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A
It's on the way. Yeah, right.
- [55:19]
B
It's in my foyer. I can't wait to wear it tomorrow.
- [55:21]
A
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- [55:35]
B
Love you. Bye.