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Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast.
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It's Jackson Claude and we're your host.
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A
It's your favorite show.
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The best five things you need to know.
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A
We'll start your day off.
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B
Swirly.
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A
It's the Toast.
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B
They sound amazing.
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A
Welcome back to the Toast and happy Tuesday. A new bombshell has entered the villa.
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B
Jackson Claude is his name.
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A
Honestly, really hot guy. Jackson.
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B
Jackson Claude Greater than Jackson Dart.
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A
Okay, Like, I don't really know anything about him, so. Sure, fuck him.
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B
Othello Jackson. You know what I was thinking?
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A
Excuse me. There's only, like, truly one Jackson worth mentioning. Jack Jackson or Ron Stewart.
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B
But. But Jackson Claude not greater than Jackson Rod Stewart.
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A
No, literally nobody greater than Jackson Rod Stewart.
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B
Exactly. That's why I was just, like, putting down a lesser Jackson.
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A
Jackson Rod Stewart, Greater than Sign All.
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B
Yeah, all Jack Worlds. What I was thinking is, like, every day you come on the show and, like, intro me and, like, I know, like, you, like, like, come up with a name for me or, like, a little gimmick, but it's like, every day I have a new name for you. Like, every day I'm ready to call you something different. Like today. I'm thinking today's episode is like a co journey to co journer.
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A
I was, like, liking Cojournifred. I just finally started to understand it.
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B
And like, yesterday I wanted to call you like, Little Miss Journey.
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A
Oh, I love that. Little sassy Little Miss Journey.
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B
So, like, I know you do the intro, but I need a space where I can just say my nickname of the day. You know what I mean?
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A
Yeah, no, I'm trying to think, like, where we could create that space.
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B
Yeah, like, create and hold space for me.
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A
So watch this space.
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B
So, like, you do the intro, throw to me, and then I could be
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like, hey, journalist, I guess I get when I throw to you, like, that's your time, so go.
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B
But you wind up. You wind up saying more stuff, and then we just, like, get into convo and I.
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A
Right. And don't you find that it's so much fun? It is.
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B
Oh, I love it. But I just, like, need. I need a space to call you my flavor of the day.
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A
Okay, well, watch this space.
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B
Watch the Space Journal.
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It's Tuesday. We have such a busy show. Love island was on last night. We've got dear Toasters. Must. Must help our out our community. No matter. No matter how large we get. And I'm talking about our show. We can never forget to give back to the community.
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B
I did forget about deer Toasters. Because actually, the stories are seriously good.
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A
There's a couple of insane things going on, don't you find?
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B
I don't know that I would say insane, but a lot of meatiness in the stories. Like, five stories that I want to talk about equally. I might even have six. And maybe I'll do it because of that one time. I did four because of that one time. Remember when I said today's not the
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day to do six? We have Dear Toasters and Love island recap. So maybe add one to tomorrow's plate. I always think that's what happens with the toast.
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B
I always think, like, oh, okay, I'll do this one tomorrow. But then tomorrow comes, and it's a bountiful tomorrow.
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A
And then tomorrow come, then tomorrow. I would see a lot of hate for my singing. And, like, I just want to say I did not suffer on the Masked Singer just. Just to get hate from my own community. I will sing when I feel like it. I have an amazing voice. You can't tell me otherwise. And genuinely, and I mean this in, like, a very, very genuine way, grab a spoon and eat my fudgeing ass. I will sing till the day I die, bitch.
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B
It's a fake troll bot smear campaign. Like, that's not real. Real ones love the singing.
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A
No, like, real ones would never get in the way of, like, me and my biggest passion in the whole world.
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B
And real ones would never say it in the comments. Like, they would never hurt you like that.
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A
Like, say it to their friends behind my back.
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B
Yeah. They would think it like another song. Okay. But they would never take the time to hurt you like that.
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A
I can't even tell you how genuinely hurtful it is. Like, there are a lot of things I get so much hate, you know? And people comfort this. They comfort that. None of it penetrates, like, literally none of it. You're talking about my singing. Like, that's hitting me where it genuinely hurts.
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B
Yeah.
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A
In a deep way.
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B
Pay it no mind.
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A
Will do.
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B
Let it go.
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A
What did I do yesterday that I wanted to tell you about? I watched Love Island.
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B
Yeah. Excited to talk about Love Island. I also had a little bandwidth to read my book, which I just need to finish at this point. I don't know. I need to finish the book so I can understand the point of the book. I do. I can understand the point of, like, why we're telling this story. I feel like I'm starting to get to it, which is, like, that the London Police has, like, serious issues. Serious. The Met, Scotland Yards. Like, seriously. They can't police their town. Like it's a.
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A
It sounds like the Boston pd.
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It's a real problem. No, like the justice system that in London is so unjust.
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That's why I prefer America. Always have, always will put a boot in your ass. It's the American way.
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B
Yeah. So I think like, that's the point of the book. It's like this is just one case in a larger, much larger issue that like, they don't know how to do police work.
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And.
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And it. They also seem like un. Not even that they don't know how. Like uninterested and unwilling to do.
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A
I. I saw the COVID of the book because you posted on your Instagram and like, I do understand why you were sort of seduced by it. It's a very seductive cover. And I know we're not supposed to judge book by covers, but like, we are. Absolutely.
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B
And that's why you should.
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A
And that's why you should read Girl with no Job, the Crazy Beautiful Life of an Instagram Thirst Monster and the Camper and the Counselor. Two iconic covers. Yeah, that's right. You are listening to a podcast hosted by not one, but two authors.
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B
And the title is London Falling, which at the outset of the book, you know immediately it's about a. A boy, 19 years old. So a guy who like jumps off of a balcony. Oh, but. So that seems like the obvious reason for the title, but now it's like, no, London is falling. They have no competent police department. Chilling, chilling. And I also, I have to be
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A
honest, I love a double entendre.
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B
Don't you have to be honest? The subtitle for the book, what was it? I need to read it so you can understand how I got here. A mysterious death in a gilded city in a family search for truth. I did think it was a Gilded age book.
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A
Yeah, the use. I agree. The use of the word gilded should be reserved for that one era.
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B
It is not a gilded age book. It's very modern. It's like took place 20, 19,000%.
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A
Oh, I forgot to tell you this. I'm getting my ass eaten alive on TikTok. Like I am getting it like canceled.
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B
Oh, why?
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A
Well, I made a tick tock about OG Anunoby who is the Knicks player who made like that iconic tippin. He's like this very, very stoic guy. He's gone viral so many times he like refuses to sm. He's like very soft spoken. Actually he was in the most recent episode of your Friends and Neighbors. I feel like not enough people are talking about that. Anyways, I was saying how, like, he just needs a good woman in his life and there were rumors. Do you remember I told you about this? Like, last year, Sunili was at a game and like, OG was like, kind of on the fritz. Like, he wasn't okay. I think that they actually ended up dating. It's all very, like, conspiratory. But I was saying he needs, like, the loving embrace of a good woman. And I was like, coming up with people that I want him to date. And I realized, like, the perfect girl for him is obviously Khloe Kardashian. I posted that Tick tock. Like, not fully understanding. Like, of course Khloe Kardashian can never be a wag on the same team of Jordan Woods. Like, of course. Like, people are saying I'm so disrespectful. Like, I'm sorry.
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I just. Like you said, it's your tick Tock. That he said it's my TikTok.
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And like, it obviously ended up on a bad side of Tick Tock because my followers know I would never wish ill on Jordan Woods.
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B
Yeah. And how old is OG he's also
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like, too young for her, but I don't know when I think of. And also, she shouldn't date a basketball player. Absolutely not. Like, it is a bad call. Except for the fact they just both seem like, really? And he's like, so shy and she's so outgoing. Like, it's really. It's giving like, Kiki Palmer and Shawn Evans like yin to yang.
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B
Let me just take a glance at the eligible list and see if he's extremely handsome. Oh, we have eligibles 2.0. I'm cracking up. And there's only one person on it.
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A
Who?
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B
Sophie Turner. We're so weird.
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A
Put OG Ananobi on the list.
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B
No, I have to go back to the original. I guess we. We were probably like editing and then.
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A
Yeah, we probably tried to make our
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like, a new one because the list sucks.
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Outdated piece of eligible singles list where everyone is either like, old or not single.
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Old losers.
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Like, yeah, not famous, unemployed.
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B
The same people. Selena Gomez is on here. She's married. And like, why was she ever on this list?
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No, I wouldn't pair her with my worst enemy.
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B
I've taken her off. Oh, also, we need to talk about Michael B. Jordan because he's on the list as he always is. We were saying last night, like, apparently he likes souls photo already. So, like, when she comes out of the villa, like, she has a date with Michael B. Jordan. What is Michael B. Jordan doing? Like, you are the most a list desirable actor on the planet. And like, you're always just like, in the reality TV discards looking for a date.
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A
So I want to say I want to give Michael B. Jordan the benefit of the doubt because we talked about him, like, potentially being set up with Sierra from Rihanna. That never happened. And now, yeah, allegedly, he's like, liking souls and serum. And last year he was. And Gina's Instagram. I. I just want to say I've not seen one receipt of any of this. A lot of it is just like, like brain rot from Instagram and tick tock comment sections. I don't know that he's actually done any of these things, you know, like,
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B
bit at this point. Oh, if you're attractive and poorly treated on tv, like, Michael Jordan is going to court.
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A
He's coming to save you.
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B
But it's like, why can't he just get, like, a date the regular way?
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A
So that's why I feel like he's not actually doing these things. Like, I'm sorry, the man just won an oscar. He's not DMing people from love Island. Like, he's just not.
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B
No. And last year and this year and like, he didn't have anything going this year. He didn't have any date or girlfriend or nothing.
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A
And this, I think it's all lies. It's rumors and nastiness.
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B
And then also the rumor that Rihanna set him up with Sierra, which obviously didn't work out, is he's.
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A
No, I'm telling you, Jackie, none of these things ever come to life. Like, I think he's like, seriously, people just, like, make up about him. I really feel that way.
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B
Okay. That makes me feel better because I'm like, what are you doing? Like, it's just like now it's just known, like, if you're hiding, you're on reality tv. Like, Michael B. Jordan is going to like your picture.
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A
All right, so I'll go on reality tv.
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B
I just feel like I just don't know why he can't get a date or girlfriend.
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A
Well, he's obviously a man of taste because anyone who likes soul. I heard saw somebody on TikTok say, like, we're obviously part of Souls fandom, so we are soldiers.
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B
Oh, and also when they go to Soul Ties, like, how are they not calling it Soul Ties?
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A
No. And if everyone was treating her as a fudgeing equal, like, there would be so much lore. We'd be having so much fun. She's such a queen.
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B
No, but I mean, is everybody on soul side?
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A
Yes. Like the fans, you mean?
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B
Yeah, yeah. I took a look at the fandom last night, and what I'm gathering is people hate Zach. Hate.
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A
Yeah. And I'm with them.
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B
Yeah. But pales into comparison to my hatred for sincere.
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A
No, of course. Because Zach is very much the ace of this season. Got himself in a safe couple is, like, trying to win. And also, Zach really has an advantage by being, like, the brother of somebody who's been on this show. So he has a real back, you know, back end knowledge of how things work and how beneficial the show can be for your life and your career the longer that you stay. So he's, like, very much invested in staying on and also, like, making everyone else look bad. Like sitting people down and doing audits on their relationships. Know he's giving me bad vibes.
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B
Yeah, yeah, I have. I have issues. But it's funny that he's the villain of the season so far when it's obviously sincere.
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A
Obviously. Let's. Let's dive into the show. We have so much to do, and we're already, like, bleeding into Lusa.
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B
Okay, so let's get into the Fast 5 stories that you do need to know.
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A
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B
Thank you, Dirt Wide.
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A
You're welcome, Jert Wide.
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B
Our first story. West Wilson is leaving Summer house for season 11 after his contract has not been renewed. So Wes Wilson, wicked witch Graham, will not be returning for Summer House season 11 when the show begins filming in the Hamptons in early July. A source has confirmed his contract has not been renewed.
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A
I mean, I find this shocking. I mean, I knew they were going to go one of two ways. Like, and I. I think that based on what we know about Bravo, like, historically, they do really, like, listen to the fans a lot, and the fans hate. So, yeah, is Sierra gonna be there? I don't know. Like, I hate this man more than anything in the world, but I, like, kind of want to hear from him. He's crazy.
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B
Yes, I guess Sierra will be there. I think Liz posted this. Someone had messaged her, and they made a really good point, which is like, yes, west is the drama, and we're taking the drama out of the equation, but he doesn't actually contribute.
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A
Give us on the show.
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B
He doesn't speak. He just. Even on the reunion, his plan is just to, like, sit there, take it all, move on. He did that at the first reunion, even over the summer. Like, he adds value in the sense that he's, like, fun and everybody likes him. But when you take that away because he's not fun and nobody likes him anymore, and he doesn't actually do confrontation. He doesn't actually do tv and he thinks he can hosting, I think this must have been such a shock for him. Such a shock. Like, I think he bad boy of Bravo. They loved him before shitting his pants.
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A
All the opportunities. They were doing a Summer House extension, a different series in the Adirondacks or whatever. Ozarks based on him and, like, his friend group from growing up. I think that he was tapped a lot for, like, a lot of opportunities within, like, the NBC Peacock family. He does a lot of sports. Like, I think that. I'm curious if he's off of Summer House or off of Bravo. Like, is he out?
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B
Like, will he still have his Ozark show? Maybe.
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A
Right.
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B
Maybe he's just off of Summer House. That way Sierra can come back because that's what the viewers want to see. But I also think, like, there is an argument to be made that even though he's the drama, like, he actually doesn't deliver. And watching him, you know, like, wallow all summer and mumble some apology, like, isn't interesting. Especially if we're gonna get from him, like, what we got at the reunion. And I do think, like, this is him like, finally having to like, answer for all that he's done. I think, you know, we said, like, him and Amanda did a job well done. They made the show go on. But it's like, not really him and his actions and his words that are doing it. It's like all the stuff that he does off camera and then he brings nothing to camera. And I. I think the chickens are coming home to rooster. Yeah.
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A
There is an element of this that's actually extremely rewarding because I feel that on reality TV and Bravo specifically, you really get so rewarded for your bad behavior. Like, there's no. Like, even when you think about like, all those, like, sort of like toxic men of Bravo, it took. It took Jack's Taylor like 15 years, like, actually get fired. They do such bad things. They're such, like, bad people sometimes and they just like, haha, memes and jokes and merch. Like, it never really, I feel has consequences. And so for someone to like, really behave so poorly, have complete disregard for their friends and actually see some sort of repercussions, like, it's quite delicious.
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B
Yeah, I think he must be very shocked. I do think personally, like, I mean, and I couldn't be more different than the Bravo producer. So obvious. This is what I said. I said, like, I think they should stay, which means they're gonna go because, yeah, we're not aligned. I do think, like, to close out the story, they should have been on the next season or the next few episodes and then go, like, even think about Tom Sandoval after Scandal.
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A
Sierra would never show up.
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B
Yeah, Sandoval needed to be there the season after Scandal to answer for all that he did. And then I never want to see him again. But like, for the entertainment value and the storyline and closing out the narrative, like, you do need to see them and hear from them. However, we don't really hear a lot from west. So I don't know what value he was going to add other than just disrupting the household. And I think that Summer house, the show and the group, like, really relies on being like, close and trusting each other. And like, they were all crying at the reunion because he, like, broke up their family. And I think they just want to try and get back to that place of, like, real friendship.
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A
Yeah. I guess the difference is that these people have to live together. So it's like, yeah, Ariana can say, like, I don't want to film with Sandoval, but like, but she's living. That's fine. They're still on the show. You know what I mean? Like, Sierra, in order to be back on the show, would have to then sleep in the same house as them. And like, that's where I think people draw the line, which I obviously understand and agree with.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And I guess it was never a question of if Amanda was returning or not because she's on in the city now. She's graduated and she was never coming back to Summer House. I guess.
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B
I mean, she might still come. Who knows? We haven't heard anything. Is Kyle coming back? Is Lindsay coming back? All that?
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A
Like, they're all going to be on in the city. Oh, and then I did they also then announced, like, who's returning?
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B
I didn't see that.
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A
So I saw. Maybe it was just a rumor, like a list of people. Kj, no Dara. And I think we should control Z. Dara, no. Kj. And then Dara made a tick tock.
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B
No, no Dara. No Dara.
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A
She made a tick tock. Like sad girl, like makeup or whatever. Because they, I guess they are broken up.
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B
Oh, they are.
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A
Yes. Jesse Solomon confirmed it. I thought on what Happens Live, I thought that the breakup was like fake prank promote his music and I thought that was extremely, like low brow behavior.
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B
So they just filmed the music video before they broke up?
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A
Yes. Jesse Solomon says they're broken up.
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B
Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah, I'm good with no kj, no Dara. But then we have like nobody. No kj, no Darren, Kyle. No. And then what's Carl going to do without his friend? So we just have Jesse, Mia, Sierra, Bailey, Levi, Ben.
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A
By the way, I thought Levi had a good showing at the reunion. I'll give her a second chance.
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B
Yeah. I don't know why they are like cutting her out.
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A
Yeah. Because she was there.
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B
Yeah. And she's. Yeah, she's fine. She hasn't done anything wrong, like let
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A
her be on the show. I just know I, I am really curious to see if this is like a cutting of the cord with west and the network completely or just this particular show because I think the network had like a lot invested in him. They really loved him. He was like the golden boy, you know, they, the fans loved him. Like, so I wonder if all of that is over or just this particular show because I'm sure Sierra said if you guys want me back, I will not be in a house with them.
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B
Yes, of course. And TBD about Amanda. Also, Lindsay Hubbard posted afterwards saying good morning. Hope everyone slept well last Night. I know I did. Woke up with some more thoughts, if anyone cares. One, where did she post this threads? One, maybe West Wilson should go on his podcast and publicly apologize to me for using my daughter as clickbait and a decoy to distract from his relationship with Amanda instead of talking about the show he was so fortunate for me to put him on.
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A
Two, what did he say about her daughter?
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B
I don't know what he said recently, but when she got pregnant, he had said something like, there's no way that she can be back on the show unless they bring the baby. I don't think I can babysit.
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A
Ew.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And like, that was everyone's king.
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B
Yeah. No, and she didn't forget, which I love that. But then also, it's like, this summer, they're all like, bestie, you know?
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A
Yeah, I know, I know.
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B
And then two, she said, west has tried to threaten my career slash show now three times. And quite frankly, disgusting. No other word to describe it. So I guess by saying that she shouldn't come back with a baby. Also saying, people shouldn't watch this episode tonight.
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A
Right. Right. I love Lindsay Hubbard more than anything in this world, but I just want to say one thing. She's giving, like, a little bit of Jax Taylor screaming at Lisa Vanderpump, like, this is my show. Like, yes, this is the house that Lindsay Hub Bill. Like, she bled out. She's been honest since day one. I don't necessarily know if, like, you know, Wes saying he wants the Knicks to win, so nobody watches this episode. Like, is it a personal attack to Lindsay? I respect her wanting and her ability to make everything about herself. Like, as a fellow crazy person, I respect that, but I do feel like some of this is, like, a little bit of a stretch.
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B
Yeah. But you know what? Andy spoke about the Knicks thing, and he said yes. He said, if I were West, I would probably feel the same way. I just wouldn't say it publicly because that's bad at your job. Like, going against and rooting against your work. Like, Bravo should fire him for that.
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A
No, not only that. Now I'm especially intrigued when they teased it last week, I'm like, this looks terrible. But now I'm like, what doesn't he want me to say?
- [27:12]
B
Yeah, and it's, like, a fair thing to think. And, like, Annie said, say to your friends or whatever, but to publicly say that and, like, go against the network, like, that's why that's. That gets you fired.
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A
Right. This is a job. Player behavior.
- [27:23]
B
You're telling people not to consume the product that your job is putting out to fired.
- [27:27]
A
And it's crazy. Of all the things Wes Wilson has done, the thing that's really getting me to hate him so much, like, in a really effective way, is his podcast, his clips. Like, he just thinks he's just such, like, a typical. Like, he's just like a short, relatively unattractive guy. But, like, people think he's so hot. Like, he just thinks he's such hot that even after all this, he. The things he says, like. Yeah, that and just other things on his podcast. Like, he thinks he's so, like, cool and untouchable, and his podcast makes him really unlikable.
- [27:57]
B
Well, that's all he has now. And I wonder if. If Sophie's gonna still do it with him because, like, he's like, a nobody now.
- [28:05]
A
Well, I think that whatever podcast she was gonna do, like, it is more culturally relevant now that he is on it. So I don't think she would or should kick him to the curb quite yet. Because he's not irrelevant. Like, people are still.
- [28:19]
B
No. But soon.
- [28:19]
A
Talking about it.
- [28:20]
B
People move on. And then he's just unemployed and.
- [28:23]
A
And then he's like, if he's. If he's completely off the network, we don't know if he is.
- [28:27]
B
Yeah, we don't know if he is. And so he probably also isn't gonna, like, trash the network further because.
- [28:31]
A
Right.
- [28:32]
B
Maybe he's still hoping for Ozarks or, like, to be on in the City with Amanda.
- [28:35]
A
Right, Right.
- [28:36]
B
But I'm sure he was shocked. He really thought his didn't stink. And, like, the worse he behaved, the more he'd be rewarded for it because how are you gonna let him go?
- [28:45]
A
Yeah. And if he just, like, got through it, we could move on.
- [28:47]
B
Yeah. But no. So that's really surprising. I thought if we just got through it, we could move on. Yeah, I thought that too, but no.
- [28:53]
A
No.
- [28:55]
B
Are you ready for our next story? Brooklyn Beckham takes a job at his parents, David and Victoria, in a new World cup ad. So Brooklyn Beckham took a swipe at his parents in a new advertisement as his family feud continues to rage on the wow, this is so generous of page six, the Cloud 23 hot sauce founder, referee,
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A
the unemployed Nepo baby and wife and Nepo baby and husband referenced
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B
his complicated relationship with his parents and siblings in a doordash ad shared on his Instagram Monday. It said, you're probably wondering why I'm watching the FIFA World Cup 2026 from home. He said in the video while sitting on his couch wearing a sweatshirt and jeans. It's a long story, he said with a laugh as he tossed World cup tickets onto his coffee table. The words then it's complicated more soon flash across the screen.
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A
So I think that Brooklyn Beckham is the biggest lowlife of our generation for this.
- [29:52]
B
I agree.
- [29:53]
A
There are so many elements that make this disgusting. The first is, like, you're only eligible for a doordash campaign because of who your father is.
- [30:02]
B
Right.
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A
And mother. And now you're clowning on them in said campaign. Two, I think that also, this was like, a. An affront in many ways, because, you know, David and Victoria are faces of Uber Eats. They have, like, a couple of iconic commercials. So I just think he's literally disgusting. Like, I fucking hate him for this. He thinks he's so cheeky and funny, and it's like, you're dumb and like, I hate him. The only saving grace. And I don't think this, but I just want to put it out there, because in the commercial, he has a stack of tickets in his hands, and he throws them on the counter. And if you count them, I think it's like, six. And it's like, there are six Beckham's. Like, maybe they're reuniting for this campaign because it says this is part one of a campaign. I think it says it's complicated more soon, meaning, like, more stuff's to come. There were multiple tickets. It's possible that the Beckhams are all doing this together, but I don't think that, like, David and Victoria are the type of people to use family trauma and drama for an ad campaign. They're not poor.
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B
There's absolutely no way you do when
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A
you're, like, strung out, needing money.
- [31:07]
B
No, they're not monetizing the family feud. Also, they're not jumping from Uber eats to doordash in one year. Also, Brooklyn, I'm actually not surprised that you're sitting on the couch watching the World Cup. Why would you be there?
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A
You famously couldn't hack it as a soccer player.
- [31:24]
B
So when I see that Brooklyn Beckham's watching the World cup from home, that doesn't, like, do anything for me. Not only does he not speak to his father, David doesn't even play soccer anymore.
- [31:33]
A
Like, correct. Why would you be there?
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B
Why? David might not even be there if he doesn't really.
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A
I think he is one.
- [31:38]
B
Like, why would you be there after what you wrote about your family and airing your dirty laundry? It's genuinely not confusing. And I'm not Wondering why you're sitting on no trudging game.
- [31:47]
A
And at this present moment, I could not hold a lower opinion of this person. Like dead serious. Because I think before, like obviously I'm team David and Victoria, but there is a part of me that saw Brooklyn as like sort of this good husband. Right. And I could have argued both sides, but this is not what good people do. And I think that maybe, you know, in certain situations you could explain like, yeah, this is all bad, but like he needs the money. No, no. He's like married to a full on billionaire. There is not one, there was not one good reason to have done this. Honestly.
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B
Yeah, no.
- [32:19]
A
Oh, and the comments are brutal. They had to turn. They limited them.
- [32:23]
B
Oh gosh. Yeah, no, this was a bad move. I mean, but he's not really going to turn it down because I know he doesn't need the money but like I'm sure he would like to bring home some income instead of always having to go ask his in laws for money. So I. Not that he needs the money, but I think he would want money and want like having one. Employment. No.
- [32:43]
A
And anytime he does try to do something professionally, albeit photography, being a chef, I guess he founded a hot sauce company I've never heard of. It is like the ultimate flop. Oh, you know what? I feel like we had a conversation a little while ago about like Nepo babies who flop.
- [32:58]
B
Yeah.
- [32:58]
A
We should start a list.
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B
I think I have one. I think I know whose name to search to find it.
- [33:02]
A
Because it is like just because you are Nepo does not mean that you automatically become successful. Like yes, it definitely helps. And so there is an interesting conversation to be had about Nepo babies who like can't hack it. We have to add him to the list. Who else is on it?
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B
Let me tell you, this list is so mean. I'm actually not saying because I'm going to text it to you and you're going to understand why.
- [33:22]
A
Maybe we made it like for our personal lives.
- [33:23]
B
I think we did. I'm glad that we did. But it was a short list. There was three people and now there's four.
- [33:33]
A
Oh, we can't say it.
- [33:34]
B
Yeah.
- [33:35]
A
Also I just want to say I've been corrected by our production team. There is a screenshot of Michael B. Jordan actually liking Soul's picture. So just want to say like receipts are there.
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B
So these things are happening.
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A
One of three confirmed.
- [33:46]
B
But he did like Andrina's pictures? No. I don't know.
- [33:50]
A
Probably.
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B
Probably. If you like souls. He liked injury. Yeah. And Rihanna was the one who set him up with Sierra.
- [33:56]
A
He's also chronically online. That was a rumor. That was a Dumas saying that Rihanna's setting him up with an A list actor. And everyone just assumed Michael just want to ask her.
- [34:04]
B
It was Michael B. Jordan. And Michael Jordan is always fishing for a date.
- [34:08]
A
Maybe he just loves reality TV or he's chronically online.
- [34:11]
B
Yeah, maybe he. But like, also, you can, like, be chronically online, love reality tv and also be able to get a date in the real world, you know, when you're Michael B. Jordan.
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A
What was the story?
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B
Brooklyn Beckham.
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A
Oh, literally. I've never genuinely never thought lower of someone. Like, I just think he's seriously disgusting for this.
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B
And I also want to say, like, if it is the family reuniting, like in this way, then they're all on my list. But it's not like I know for certain that it's not.
- [34:41]
A
I also saw some paparazzi pictures of Harper Beckham. The sister was in la and I guess the paparazzi caught her going into Brooklyn's house. House. But I think he didn't open the door.
- [34:51]
B
So this story is really confusing. We don't know why she was there. And then Brooklyn was in New York. He wasn't even home, and neither was Nicola. So, like, no one was home. That's why she didn't go in. Do we know? Does she know that they weren't home? Was she just stopping by? There's no way to know what happened there. So I'm gonna actually, like, not fall to anyone because we just don't know.
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A
I write extremely hard for the nuclear Beckham family.
- [35:13]
B
Me as well. Me as well. Are you ready for our next story?
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A
Yeah.
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B
Little smut news. Icebreaker series green lit at Netflix with Alex Cooper producing and Amanda Lasher set as the showrunner.
- [35:29]
A
Icebreaker is like the OG hockey smut book. When off campus was being turned, I thought that it was that book, but it's like, literally the exact same book. Except she's not a music major. She's an A figure skater.
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B
So they both hockey major.
- [35:42]
A
What happens is like one of the hockey. One of the like, ice rinks goes out of business or whatever, and the figure skating team has to share with the hockey team. And so obviously. And then she also has, like, an eating disorder. So, like, trigger warning. There's gonna be some of that. It was really good. That was the only hockey smart book I ever read. And I have to say, it was fantastic. Like, I seriously was caught the fudge up.
- [36:01]
B
In it. Yeah.
- [36:02]
A
I did read Off Campus. I did read off.
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B
I never read Icebreaker, but, like, I have heard of it. It's like one of the. It's a story I never heard of Off Campus. Even never read it. So this is, like, was a bigger title in the smut world. Yeah.
- [36:16]
A
Netflix is, like, famously bad at adapting books, so I'm a little afraid. And I do think, like, the off campus hype, like, it's a little bandwagony, you know.
- [36:30]
B
Yeah, for sure. But that's what happens. Like, something becomes cool and then we get, like, a lot of versions of it because it's the new flavor and
- [36:38]
A
you just can't keep a good gal down. I guess. Alex Cooper is unaffected.
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B
Yeah.
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A
I'm sure she was glad to have this to post, you know.
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B
Yeah. Like, you know, more content. More content. And also, like, you know, she's not going anywhere.
- [36:51]
A
Yeah, that's what. When we were saying, like, do we think any of this, like, Internet drama Cancellation Nation will actually have an effect on her specifically? No. She has deep roots in. Yeah, you said celebrities really like her. I think she has. Has really good relationships and connections with, like, networks and streaming services and, like, showrunners because she operates at an extremely high level. So for now, unaffected.
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B
Yeah. Also, I think, like, things like this speak to the why of, like, why she does Unwell. I think she's, you know, unwell, does a lot of things, you know, some more successful than others. But, you know, if she just stayed doing Call her daddy forever and, like, just was, like, doing that, then how do you go and make movies, too? Like, you don't. You need a company with a production company. And I think also this is where her husband really shines. He makes movies. He's made movies for Netflix. He's made successful movies for Netflix.
- [37:43]
A
All the boys before.
- [37:44]
B
Yeah. Like, giving him the keys to the movie department at Unwell to make Gen Z movies for Netflix, like, just makes sense.
- [37:50]
A
It does.
- [37:51]
B
So I think that giving him the
- [37:53]
A
keys so he can yell at everyone.
- [37:55]
B
I look forward to everyone who gets
- [37:57]
A
yelled at on the set of A Thousand Percent. So, yeah, I would like. I'm looking forward to casting news.
- [38:07]
B
Also, this Variety article does cite the good successes of Netflix's adaptations, which are. Bridgerton. Yeah.
- [38:16]
A
True. I forget that Bridgerton is based on books.
- [38:18]
B
Queen's Gambit. Yeah.
- [38:20]
A
Is that based on.
- [38:21]
B
It's based on a book. And it's the greatest show ever made.
- [38:24]
A
It's the greatest show ever made.
- [38:26]
B
Yeah. And to all the boys I love before don't forget that was based on a book. So her husband actually has experience.
- [38:33]
A
But the list of ones they've done unsuccessfully is longer, of course.
- [38:37]
B
But it's not impossible.
- [38:40]
A
No, it's not impossible. Just whoever worked on Luckiest Girl Lives. Stay far away from this.
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B
And Perfect Couple.
- [38:47]
A
And perfect couple.
- [38:47]
B
Yeah. Yeah. Well, has Unwell done a movie yet? Movie. Book. Book. Movie.
- [38:53]
A
Yeah, not book, but they did a movie that, like, took place on an airplane. It was like a rom com for Netflix with that girl from White Lotus who's like, the big Jonas Brothers fan. Haley. Haley Lou Richardson.
- [39:08]
B
I'm unfamiliar, but, yeah, I don't think
- [39:11]
A
it popped off, but it wasn't bad. It wasn't like, you know, Razzie.
- [39:14]
B
Yeah. I think. I wonder if she'll wind up doing Acotar. What's going on with Acotar?
- [39:21]
A
So if you have to watch her Instagram stories, like, very meticulously. Because she doesn't just post.
- [39:27]
B
Yeah.
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A
For nothing. She, like, a year ago was like, guys, I'm gonna start reading. And it's like, oh, great, you're obviously gonna start adapting into movies and TV shows. And now she's like, posts a lot about fourth wing.
- [39:38]
B
No. And not fourth wing's already being made. No, fourth wing's in, like, in the. It's at Amazon.
- [39:44]
A
I don't think she does Acotar.
- [39:45]
B
No, she has Acotar and she had Sarah J. Moss on the podcast. Remember? It was like a huge.
- [39:49]
A
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She doesn't just post for anything. She's also posting a lot of Love island maybe. Because someone from the show will probably come podcast.
- [39:58]
B
That's like, a big part of her job. And then also all those people do the Unwell festivals and the circus.
- [40:03]
A
Yeah, right. And so she's got a. Slum it with them.
- [40:05]
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. That's just like standard operating practices, business hours.
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A
Yeah.
- [40:12]
B
No, but I feel like now she's gonna do Acotar. Yeah. I didn't read it. Actually, I started Acotar, but I didn't finish it. It's not for me.
- [40:20]
A
Me neither.
- [40:21]
B
You can't dance at every wedding.
- [40:24]
A
It's true.
- [40:25]
B
So, yeah. Icebreaker. We'll see you on Netflix.
- [40:29]
A
Yeah, we will.
- [40:30]
B
Are you ready for our fourth story?
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A
Yeah.
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B
Which is some precious news. Chief coach Andy Reid's Taylor shares a glimpse of his custom tuxedo fitting ahead of Taylor Travis's wedding.
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A
I'm sick.
- [40:43]
B
And of course, what does this remind you of?
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A
Meghan Markle's dad
- [40:50]
B
He is the Thomas Markle of this royal wedding. And also, it's like, when Thomas Markle started out on his journey of being earnestly father of the bride, it was the most precious thing we ever saw. He had paparazzi taking pictures of him Googling, you know, royal wedding at the library.
- [41:09]
A
You know that, like, now we know that photo was, like, famously staged.
- [41:12]
B
Yes, yes, yes. But even once we knew it was staged, it's like, it's just so precious in its nature. Like, hey, paparazzi, come watch me search the Internet at the public library for what to wear to a royal wedding. Like, just so, so didn't even get invited. Things went so south after that. But I'm sorry. The idea that he would, like, stage those photos actually, like, doesn't even bother me.
- [41:35]
A
I know. It's like, precious boomer energy.
- [41:38]
B
Yeah. So Peter's Clothiers, a man's apparel shop in Kansas City.
- [41:44]
A
It's giving.
- [41:45]
B
It's giving tuxedos Malone tuxedos.
- [41:50]
A
The lore of this show goes so deep. Like, I always want new people to start watching, but, like, people who have been with us for so long who know, like, our og yeah. That's giving mal zones from New Jersey.
- [42:00]
B
Like, if you don't know, is the mal zones of the Middle east, of
- [42:04]
A
the Midwest, Of the Middle east, for sure. Oh, my God. Funny.
- [42:16]
B
So Peter's Clothiers gave a glimpse of the chief's coach doing a tuxedo fitting ahead of the couple's wedding. In Instagram post, the shop shared a photo of Andy Reid trying on his black tux as the Onos. As the owner, Spiro Arvan Takis, made adjustments.
- [42:33]
A
I'm, like, seriously sick from this. Like, I actually can't talk about it. Do you know what I mean? Like, it brings up a lot of feelings.
- [42:40]
B
I know. But I do feel like we're headed down Thomas Marco path.
- [42:43]
A
Like, like, I'm so down for the Andy Reid Thomas Margo pipeline title. I really like. This is so cute. I, I, it's like, it's too precious. Like, I mean, I feel physically ill
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B
actually having deja vu, because I think those exact words, this is so cute. It's too precious. I feel physically ill from it is how he described Thomas Markle doing his cafe.
- [43:09]
A
I hate to break it to you Kansas City fans, like, this is the, the start of the end of Andy Reid's career.
- [43:15]
B
It's about to get so bad, so
- [43:17]
A
dark for Andy Reed.
- [43:23]
B
And, like, Taylor is not amused.
- [43:26]
A
No, I actually think she is.
- [43:27]
B
Just wait, Claudia. It's Always the first the sucks. Fitting. Then what?
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A
That's true.
- [43:33]
B
Then snapping that photo.
- [43:34]
A
Next thing he's googling. Yeah. Oh, God, yeah.
- [43:37]
B
Next thing he's googling. Like, best MSG entrance. Yeah.
- [43:41]
A
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fifth and final story that's going to lead into our Love island recap?
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Is it the devastating, like, quite scary news about the Love island executive producer who passed away?
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No, actually, I was keeping it upbeat with the fact that the Love Island Casa More episodes are headed to theaters.
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Oh yeah, that's weird. It's like, it's a lot.
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Yes. Love Island USA is headed to theaters this summer was with a screening of the Casa Amore fallout. So Peacock is taking the villa to select theaters nationwide so fans can experience the jaw dropping moments from Casa More and witness the bombshell twists, test and unforgettable recouplings on June 22nd at 9pm Because I was like, when's Casa More? Like, can we like, get it going? Because it does feel like the season just started. So, like, Costa's not happening for a while. But it's June 22nd.
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They're doing things so quickly. Like the Hideaway when no one's even closed off and they haven't even gone on a date.
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Well, it's there. It just moves the plot. And then also, you know, something to do. They're about to bring in someone who is Zach's type to a T. Oh yeah.
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I need them to bring in someone who's Caleb's type. Like, I've had enough.
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Oh, yes, me as well. But maybe they have the same type of. That would be good.
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Yeah.
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But they're about to test Zach and Kada after just giving them a night in the hideaway. That's what they do. So it's gonna Casa More. Making its theater debut in 28 theaters across the country. Fans of the dating series can reserve their seats through Fandango.
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I love anything that, like, supports theaters. Right. I love the movie theater industry. Like, I want to help, but I'm sorry, I can't. Like, this is crazy. It's not that good. Like, the season's really not that good.
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And also, like, I don't want to watch the show, like, around other people. People.
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Yucky.
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Yucky.
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The group porn.
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Yeah.
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A
So last night's episode was very much like A not filler, but it was like, just sort of moving things around. Nothing major, no challenge.
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Conversations.
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Lots of conversations. But it was really interesting. It was a particularly bad episode for Casey. I feel like he's so unlikable to me for a couple of things. Did anybody else catch when they were talking about, when was the last time you had sex? And he was like. Like, I was seven months ago. Like, just the way he's like, oh, you ain't since then, like, the way you're saying, what do you say? Made love. You haven't been intimate. There's so many ways to say it, but, like, maybe two or even three times he said, oh, yeah, I. Her. She was. I'm like, oh, my God. Like, it was so disrespectful. And then he's talking about how Anaya is moving slow like a normal person. And he called her, with the guys, a grandma. He is not who I thought he was. He's really not.
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And, like, also, we have to also remember, think back to the big bed scene when the Bombshells came in and everything was fine between Casey and I at that point. And then Ariana was like, how are you guys?
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He made that weird joke.
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He was, like, blessed. Like, everything starts to add up.
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Any person who, like Anaya is not comfortable being intimate in front of cameras, being intimate in a room full of 25 people. Anyone who has a problem, she's known
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for a week and a half.
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He really, like, he does not deserve her. And I hate that. Like, like, people are saying. And it's true, like, Anaya's on the wrong show. I just wish this was the type of show that, like, would have someone like Anaya.
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Like, and when someone does come in like this, it's actually, like, very respected. Instead of look down upon, like, Bella. But no, like, they will never have another Bella. The more the takeaway there was like, we need people who are down to kiss everybody, not people who will withhold.
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And like, at the hideaway, like, the fact that we saw Kate as tushy and, like, the.
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The whip.
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Whip thing, like, that was really crazy. And so while my heart. I'm with Anaya, like, I. I don't know. Except for Anaya's, like, blind loyalty to Melanie and, like, her friendships are seriously questionable in terms of her relationship. I'm so on her side. I feel bad for her because, like, she is going to be punished for having standards.
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Yeah. But, like, if you go on the show, you need to know that, like, and I do feel like they make it very clear if you watch the show, which they've all watched the show, like, you. You need to be down for everything all the time with everyone all at once. And, like, so I keep holding out for someone to, like, you know, I don't know, say no to something once in a while, but that's not the show. So agreed she's on the wrong show. Even though, like, she's the one that I agree with the most.
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Yeah, it was another just awful night for Sincere. He just sort of confirmed to Melanie that he still wants to pursue. He's telling Soul he's her number one on. And I just kind of need Melanie and this whole thing could be solved if, like, Melanie and Soul had one conversation.
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No. Melanie, Soul and Sincere. Because Melanie could say to Soul, oh, he's telling me this. But why would Soul believe Melanie? She's kind of crazy.
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Yeah, right?
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The three of them should talk.
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I did love to see Soul getting pulled for a chat with Kenzie and Jen. Just, like, dweebs, literally, dweem team. I think that Kenzie was, like, besties with all the original girls, but this Corbin thing has, like, made it really awkward, and I think the girls are taking Melanie side. So, like, like, she's finding new friends. And, like, yes. I love seeing Soul just, like, being a girl, you know, being like, oh, yeah, you should kiss Corbin. Like, just, like, I love her so much. She's had the worst experience thus far on this show. So, like, something normal, like, having a girl chat, like, shouldn't be so exciting for Soul, but it is.
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She seriously makes me so sad.
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So when she has a happy moment,
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like, I feel extra happy when they, like, pulled her from Sincere, like, gotta take your girl girl talk.
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I'm like, bring her back in one piece. It might be 10 you.
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Yay.
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Yes. Like, normal experiences only for Soul. Like, that's what I want. Average experience.
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And then, of course, they have to juxtapose, like, the three of them talking about how excited she is to be with Sincere, with, like, Sincere eyeing Melanie in the speakeasy. And I actually thought in the beginning, like, Melanie was the way that even the body language, like, she was sitting, like, nothing's happening here. And I just feel like she's really trying to move on. I actually, I like as much as I, you know, don't like her. I like how she's, like, moving in the new state of things. However, at the end when they were hugging, I felt like she was, like, wanting him to kiss her.
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Yeah, of course. She's like, it's all she, like, she
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says one thing and does another and even I forget who it was. Who just like clocked her was like, she's sleeping in Soul Ties for attention.
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Oh, my God. Her, when she slept in Soul Ties
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for the second night, said that about her. It might have been Casey. And honestly, he, he, he does, like read her.
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It was Casey. Yeah. He hates her.
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He hates her, which I like, I just appreciate.
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I couldn't believe she was sleeping in Soul Ties for the second night. I thought, okay, the night of the recoupling high stakes were all very drama, drama. I, when I, when they cut to her sleeping Soul Ties, which is quite literally outside, like, it's crazy to sleep outside. I was shook.
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Yeah. Like, you can sleep in the bed with Corbin and you had no problem, like making out with Corbin Sincere. Corbin Sincere.
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Yeah.
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But now all of a sudden, like, oh, I can't.
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Well, now everyone's being like precious about kissing. Like Kenzie and Corbin.
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Yeah, well, I guess, like, they really are crossing a line by continuing to kiss.
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A
But why is everyone acting like because you've been recoupled, that means you can't talk to a person you have a connection with.
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Yeah. I don't know why they're acting like that because you can. And, but just Kenzie needs to, like, make clear to everyone and to Caleb that she's very much like going down these paths, but she is, she's telling everyone pretty much the honest truth, which she has feelings for. Both. Both.
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Yeah. I can't believe she's so hung up on Corbin. Like, what am I not seeing? Caleb is so cute. And. Yeah, Caleb's 21, Corbin's 22.
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Yeah, yeah. No, no, I know. They just really like each other.
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Like, I think they just like, I think that if they had sex, like, it could be over. I think they're probably just like have a lot of pent up sexual tension from sleeping in the bed together and they're like, you know, getting freaky with one another. So, like, they need to have sex just so it can be over.
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Yeah. Because I don't think it's like a great love, but it at least it's keeping things interesting. Yeah. And Kenzie and Jen, they don't like Melanie and the fact that they're like putting, they're like, Corbin won't kiss me because he's coupled up with Melanie. It's like, that's not Melanie's fault.
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No, no. And like, Corbin does not like Melanie and Melanie doesn't like Corbin. It's Just like it's convenient for her to pretend.
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Yeah.
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Because she likes gonna get sincere about
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it and like to make sincere jealous. Yeah. Everything she's doing. Like, she's saying all the right things, but, like, performative coming from like, just the raw. Wrong place. And she's just like waiting in the wings for sincere.
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I need two bombshells. Three. Okay. I need someone who, like a Jaylen for Anaya. Someone who's there just for Anaya. Like, Casey is fake and I'm sorry, Zach did clock him. Like, absolutely. I. I really don't like Casey anymore. So I need someone to come in there. I need someone to come in also for Kada because Zach is way too comfortable. She is so giddy. Like, she does not. She's not even cool, calm, or collected for like three seconds. And he is like, giving me weird vibes.
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Yeah.
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And I also need someone to come in for Caleb.
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I think someone will come in for Zach and it will test their relationship. And I hope that he still chooses Keda and then they can close off. Kada is not looking any other way other than Zach. Even if they brought in the perfect man for her, she wouldn't even see him because she only sees Zach.
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So I think to explore a connection after having sex. Like, that's right.
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Wrong.
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So call me old fashioned.
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Yeah, but like, if you're not closed
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off, you should have to be closed off to get to the hideaway.
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Well, no, it's also she has agency. She could say, I'm not having sex with you unless we're closed off.
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A
Like, she could say that she doesn't have agency. She's like, so obsessed.
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B
And also, like, the hideaway at more hideaway let these people have a private night once. It's like, I'm glad you. I don't think it was too early in the season. The hideaway should be open every night, and they should be able to send a couple there every night. They do that on Bachelor in Paradise. There's like the boom boom broom.
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A
Oh, yeah. No, that's Jersey Shore.
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But I think they, like, wound up calling it that. It's like an ode to Jersey Shore or whatever. And always one couple sleeps in there. It's always the strongest couple who, like, actually wants privacy.
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But no, Jersey Shore is a smush room.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Backtrack how this is boom boom. So and then eventually, if another couple is strong, like, they would get it one night. But it should be open for a couple every night to like, solidify their relationship. I think it, like, it's good and normal, but you should put boundaries on if you're trying to get serious with your guy, you should.
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Yeah, I agree. That's on Keda.
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Yeah, no, it is on Kita. She's got to get smart. I said that yesterday.
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A
And then also a executive producer from Love island passed away last week in Fiji like while working. And that news was just released yesterday. So I guess they've sort of just been. It does feel like they sort of like are scrambling a little bit. Like production feels like it's kind of of like just throwing a bunch of at the wall. And if I kind of like the, the idea that their executive producer like is not there anymore. You know what it kind of tracks with like how the show has been directed.
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Well, the way it feels for me and maybe it's just because of the time the app crash, but it feels like they're just sitting around for very long stretches of of time and days without a recoupling, without, without a date challenge. Without a date. And so when the texts come in, they're always over enthused when the texts come in. But it's like I feel like they got stranded on an island there and there's like no one there actually like producing them. The pre people are producing in the editing room and they're making a show that way. But like I don't feel like there's people like where are the chaperones?
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Yeah, no, it definitely feels. So this news like does sort of track.
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I thought it was just about the app crash and they lost a day
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of maybe that too.
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And so it got a little long in the tooth because we had an extra day of chats.
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They let us know that tonight's episode we will get to vote. And I'm just like, I'm not going to be so easily swayed. They obviously produce the show when they're voting to get a certain vote. And I'm sorry, I will, I'm not getting. I'm not falling for that again.
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Yeah. But also I don't think it's going to be the same sort of vote. I think it's going to be like who should go on a date vomit. You know, it's not going to be like a recouple sort or any sort of high stakes, high stakes vote. It's going to be like, like who's your number one? And then they'll do a challenge where they tell everyone who they like the least. And it's like we didn't say who we like the least, we said who we like the most and then this person got the least amount of votes for like the most. It doesn't mean they're the villain. That's what they do. They're disgusting.
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Oh my. Let's dive into Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment. Every Tuesday, Jackie and I like to give back to our community by helping out the swirlies in need right into us. Dear toasters, gmail.com. you can shoot us an email there or head over to our website the Toast podcast. Scroll down. There's a little deer toaster submission box. Totally anonymous. Both methods are completely give an equal chance of getting selected. Hey Jackson Claude. We actually had a lot of submissions this week that like the Knicks playoffs and like the NBA playoffs and the Knicks winning like affected their lives. Okay, and here's one of them. Ready? Hey Jackson Claude. I'm a New York City swirly here who seemed to have a little too much fun last week. I met this guy through a mutual friend while watching the Knicks game game three at a bar. Long story short, I ended up taking him home and having sex with him. To make matters even more interesting, it was my first time having sex. We ended up sleeping together again after both game four and game five. But I'm worried that we're not going to see each other as much now that the Knicks aren't playing. I do think we're very compatible, but there hasn't been much communication after the win on Saturday. Searching for any advice on how to handle the situation because I'd love to see him more sincerely a newest Nick's biggest fan.
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See him more than three times.
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Like she wants to now go out but like it seems like she's sort of been renegaded relegated to like yeah, she's phrasing it.
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I feel like I'm not gonna see him as much. It's like I feel like I'm never gonna see him again because there's not
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another mix game and you haven't spoken.
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I mean give me know each other before the. The first encounter.
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Mutual friend. So let me tell you like because I, I believe you're probably like attached because it's the first person you've had sex with and like that's a very normal thing to be. It's. I would say it's most likely like you're never gonna see or speak to him again. And if it is, it's just to have sex like that sort of of the box that you put yourself in by just seeing him three times and having sex three times. Like that's Just how unfortunately the world works. I would give it one shot, like, send him a text being like, hey, want to grab drinks? Like, try once. But I wouldn't have high expectations.
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That's what I was gonna say. Throw a Hail Mary, like, make a joke. Like, hey, I heard, you know, the golf championships are on. Like, and you guys can have this running joke about, like, using sports as a way to see.
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You could become a really big Yankees fan.
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Yeah, no, but, like, you could just, like, throw a joke. There are plenty of sporting events on. So, like, if you guys. If it's your thing that you need a sporting event in order to see each other, just, like, you could find one on any given the World Cup. So you should text him, put yourself out there. Because the worst is that, like, he's not feeling and doesn't want to see you. And that would be the same if you put yourself out there or you didn't because he doesn't want to see you. And you'll never see him.
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Try once. But after that, like, take the head and you. These lessons are learned the hard way.
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Yeah, but the World cup would be, like, a really good one, too, because there's multiple games, and by the end of the World cup, like, you should probably. He should be your boyfriend if you play your card.
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That's a good goal.
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Yeah. Or it's not.
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But stop having sex. Like, why don't you go out and do stuff?
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Yeah. And then be like, oh, I have an early morning tomorrow. Like, let's skip tonight. And then, hey, Brazil's playing Senegal.
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Senegal. Next up, dear toasters. Claudia, I already know what you're gonna say. He's gay. Which, actually, I might agree with you on. When I was eight months pregnant, already married for a year and a half. At that point, I got a DM from a girl saying she had a history with my husband before he and I met. And he added on Snapchat last night night under a different name. And she thought I should know. Well, God bless her. I confronted him about it, made him log in. I was going to look, but what I found was 10 months worth of messages with guys, pictures, videos, nasty messages. This started three months after we got married, and I was destroyed. He had a porn problem, which I knew about when we dated, but he said it was minor and in control, and he stopped. He said his porn addiction never stopped and ultimately led to online sites and chatting. Gets worse. He actually got a blowjob twice from one of the guys he's been messaging. The second time was the Night before my baby shower and he swears he's not gay because yeah, we're still together, but my heart and my head are not in it. He's been going to therapy, working on himself. We now have a seven month old baby girl. She's my everything. I do not love my husband, but I cannot stand the thought of not being with my baby girl every day. I don't think I could get full custody just based on his infidelity. If I didn't have a baby, I would have left him a long time ago. It's so easy to say leave him, but I love my baby so much and I don't want to have to be away from her because of his mistake and his addiction. What would you do? First of all, I love you and I love everything you're saying. And I agree with you, you, full custody is not guaranteed. I feel like it has to be really extenuating circumstances these days for like it to be complete full custody. So. Yeah, you're sacrificing your own happiness for your baby. And like that's what a mother does.
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And it's also different. It's two versions of happiness. It's like happiness to be away from him or happiness to be with your baby every single day. And I think the second one is better for. And especially based on what you're saying. Yeah.
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A
I also think that there's like a sort of peace that comes with realizing like, like I don't like my husband. Like you don't have. When you still are attached. Like, that's actually what makes it harder. So you're completely detached. And I feel like for your sanity, that's actually amazing. You're basically just like living with someone. Like roommates. And you know what? Like he's out here on sites like chatting like, girl, you kind of have like a free pass, like go have an affair. But also you have a seven month old. So like maybe like you don't have to, but like the freedom of like knowing that you have a partner who has like his own things going on. He's not even paying attention to you. You have no feelings left for him. Like you do not love him. You said that. Like, that's kind of a freeing feeling. Like just sort of do what? Do your own thing.
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B
Yeah. And be with your basically splitting rent every day. Yeah. It's like a roommate.
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A
And your baby is with her father, which is good too.
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B
Yes, but. And with her mother every day.
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A
Well, of course.
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B
Which she.
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A
But I'm saying your baby's in an intact home. She don't know Dad's on sites.
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B
Yeah. So I would say ignore.
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A
Yeah, I would say ignore. Keep doing what you're doing. Like genuinely, like, like fall in love.
- [66:25]
B
Yeah.
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A
Have a, like go like have an affair. You basically have an at home babysitter. Like, and like he could watch the, the nan it while you go out with the girls.
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B
Maybe, like, he'll get like, so, you know, like pent up and frustrated and like that. He'll eventually like leave and move to another state and go find a lover and like you get they do alone.
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A
Yeah, yeah. No, for this I would play the long hand.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Maybe like get you're doing the right thing.
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B
Set him up with like a pen pal in another country.
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A
Oh, let's catfish him.
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B
He eventually leaves the country. He obviously can't take the child.
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A
And then you steal his passport the night before he leaves.
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B
No, no, you want him to go,
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A
oh, sorry, no, no, you go visit him and you steal his passport on your way out so he can never return back. That's a good plan. Like you go visit him with the
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B
baby because he can't get.
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A
Oh, Sarah wanted to see replacement passport. At that point it's like, well, I'm happy being free and gay in Senegal. Yeah. Why? Who needs a passport?
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B
Yeah, yeah. Focus on number one and number two.
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A
Agreed. No, you're doing the right thing. You're an amazing mama and your daughter will thank you one day. Like she. Like that you're doing what you're supposed to do.
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B
Yeah. Yeah.
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A
All right. Our third and final. My boyfriend of five years who I'm definitely marrying and is going to be the father of my children, has made it clear that he's very anti circumcision. He himself is uncircumcised. He's Norwegian, so that's the cultural norm. He also plays hockey. And in hockey, a lot of guys are uncircumcised because they're Canadian and European. So for him it's super normal. And let's not forget natural. Unfortunately, I'm a touch waspy. Very Charlotte York in that episode with the uncircumcised guy. So it's been five years and he's such a P John. I'm actually startled every time I see him soft. I've mentioned to him that uncircumcised penis for my son is not a dream. And he's been understanding, but he said it's important to him and that penis stuff is more in the dad territory, which I get. Like, if there Was any call to be made with my daughter's body, he would 100 defer to me. Should I just get on board? The problem with taking a hard line is I risk offending him in his uncircumcised story. Love you so much. Also, Trudy, I saw you on the street recently and you looked paper thin. Oh, my God. I did not add that sentence and I swear to God.
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B
Wait, so they're just dating right now or they're married?
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A
Yeah, no, they're dating. And. But for five years. There's so many things. First of all, you could be blessed with only daughters. This could be a non issue.
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B
Yeah, okay, but. But say it's.
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A
You could end up not marrying him.
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B
Yeah, but let's say they're married. Say they're married and they had a son on the way.
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A
Like, so I want to say, like, your comparison of being like, well, if we had a daughter and there was something to do with her body would be my choice. But because we have a son, it would be his choice. No, it's actually your choice either way. And I, I want you to know that your. The ultimate decision, like, is yours to make. I do think there are a couple of things you could do to sort of guarantee you get your outcome. Like, you could convert to Judaism. I think that would sort of fix it.
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B
He's an anti Semite.
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A
Well, then you should know now you should not be having babies with him. It's actually a two for one special. You get your uncircumcised penis and you find it's a test.
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B
I think it's very good. I think you say that it's important to you and like, if it.
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A
But it's important to him too.
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B
It's more important to you. And like when you've had that baby and like it happens in, in infancy and so know that like you get all the, say when you've just delivered a baby, you know.
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A
Yeah. The circumcision conversation is so interesting and I feel like, pretty good about it because, like, I don't have a choice, you know, like my religion. But if you do have a choice, America is like really kind of one of the only countries where it's standard practice.
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B
Yeah. Medically, people are not doing it.
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A
Yes. So it's. We are sort of the outlier on this. Like.
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B
Yeah, yeah.
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A
Not everyone else, but I relate to
- [70:06]
B
like very much wanting your child to be circumcised. So, like, how do you make that happen for yourself? And I think you just have to be like, really Honest. And, And. And don't make. And if it comes up that he's like, well, I'm not circumcised and you don't mind, just be like, well, like, I have no choice in that. And I love you and I know you, and I'm not going to let something like that get come in between us. But this is what I want for my child. It's what I've always wanted, and I need to know that you're okay with that.
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A
And you know what? Like, why don't you guys focus on sec. On getting engaged. You're just dating for five years. Like, girl, it's time. And I think also you're talking about hypothetical children's genitalia. You don't even have an engagement ring.
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B
Yeah. And how this conversation goes, I think will speak to like, a lot of like, important disagreements that you might have along the way. There are a lot of decisions to be made with your children that people are going to have strong feelings for or against along. And how you handle them, how you handle them, like, really will show if, if you can be parents together, like, see each other side of things, compromise on the things that are less. You have to pick and choose your battles. I think this is one worth picking for you, but it will, like, speak to other. I can think of like, so many things that are huge decisions that you have to make for kids.
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A
Oh, my God. Of course.
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B
And.
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A
And like the ideal is that whoever you marry, you're just sort of like, aligned on. But I do think more often than not, like, you were defer to the mother. Like, you just do. Sorry. Right. Mothers and fathers ain't equal. And I'm good with that.
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B
Like, I'm hella good with that. I agree. I agree.
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A
Like, sorry, I don't want equal rights. Like, I'm better and different.
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B
I want mother's rights.
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A
Yes. Like, yeah, we defer to me, you carry the suitcases. Okay.
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B
I'll carry the baby. Yeah, like, sorry, carry the suitcase.
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A
That's like, biologically, like, you're physically stronger. You carry the suitcases. Biologically, like, I have, have like a maternal instinct, a gut that like, is unparalleled. Like, I'm connected. Like, we are the same temperature, me and the baby. Like, what are you talking about?
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B
No, like, we're not equal.
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A
I don't want to be equal.
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B
Yeah, I, I agree.
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A
That's like the other day I said
- [72:09]
B
to Ben, and I do think that sometimes, like, after a woman has gone through pregnancy, has a baby, like, the men get it. And they're like, shut up. They're like, oh, okay. This is. Yeah, they're quiet at the moment. Like, this is between a mother and her baby. And I'm happy and lucky to be a part of it.
- [72:28]
A
Yeah. So when, God willing, one day, the day comes that you do get pregnant, like, just be really dramatic about it,
- [72:32]
B
like, oh, I know. But I. I do feel like if your partner, like, doesn't see that they do see it.
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A
They.
- [72:38]
B
How can you miss it? Like, it's a complete transformation. You're turned inside out. You're a different, like. And they're just like, hey, you know?
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A
Yeah.
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B
And so I feel like it sort of writes itself because, like, everything sort of falls into place because they understand. Understand that it's not the same to be a mother and to be a father.
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A
Yeah. Well, that's our show. You guys. Thank you for writing into Dear Toasters. Thank you to everyone for listening to the Toast, the Monday morning show where we deliver the fastest stories that you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So wherever you listen to podcast. No, on YouTube. So if you're listening to this, if you're watching this on YouTube. Oh, my God. Feel free to give this video a thumbs up. We're also available as podcast anywhere. Podcast to be found. So Spotify, Apple Podcast, and YouTube wherever we listen to podcasts. Review about a beautiful sounding and wickedly talented we are. Hope you guys have an amazing day and we'll see you tomorrow.
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B
Love ya. Bye.