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Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast.
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It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host.
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It's your favorite show.
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The best five things you need to know.
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We'll start your day off.
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Swirly.
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It's the Toast.
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They sound amazing.
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Welcome back to the Toast and happy Thursday. Hope everybody's having an amazing day. Just seriously amazing.
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Amazing day of things.
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Speaking of amazing.
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Oh, that's so sweet.
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It's a girl who looks just amazing.
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Oh, my gosh. Thank you.
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What are you looking at?
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Nothing.
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Yes, you did. What'd you look at?
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I literally did.
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You looked at what? My shoulder? My shirt? You don't like my shirt? What'd you look at?
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I didn't look at. Yes, you did.
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Really?
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Like, focused on myself because I was like. Do I mention the fact that I'm wearing a bun two days in a row? Do I mention it or.
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You went like this. If I looked at you like this, what would you do?
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Okay, maybe I would question you. But if I did that, just know, like, maybe something's wrong with my eye because I. I don't know what that was.
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So now she has, like, an issue and I feel bad for.
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No, no. Like, I literally didn't look at anything. I promise you. Because I'd say it. I'd say what's on my heart.
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I have something so crazy to tell you that I have been dying. I didn't know. I'm being dead serious.
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Okay. I'm really.
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I didn't call you yesterday.
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Let me drink first so I don't spit out my water.
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I didn't call you yesterday. I didn't tell you last night. I didn't tell you while we sat here for 10 minutes while we dilly dally for the show, because I wanted to tell you live and in living color that last night I did the craziest thing.
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You started Copper's Bell Burden.
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I started Copper's Bell Burden. I read about 100 pages. So, like, I'm okay.
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You're in.
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Ben finished Remarkably Bright Creatures. Oh, my God. He loved it so much. Like, I know it's like a. It was like a long thing, but I feel so the whole point of this, we were talking about it was because I chose a random book for my husband. He doesn't read. I know his interests. I tried to gauge if he would like the book. He loved it, so things I did that. I gotta pick another one, which will be hard. But we both read last night. So mature. Because I was so productive yesterday. Like, we did maj. And while I was devastated. I finally answered emails for the past like month. I watched all of my programs. I'm caught up on Rory, so I had time to start Strangers Bell Burden. I'm taking a stab at my contemplate and let me tell you, obviously I don't know where the book goes, but like I'm in it now.
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It hooks you from the beginning because the beginning starts in the middle and
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I just want to say if I ever see her fucking husband out in the streets. Oh, it's on fudgeing site. What a little shit. Now I wanted to refrain from googling because I'm dying to know who he actually is.
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Oh, I never googled him.
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Oh, I'm dying to know.
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I think he's just a businessman. Like you don't know him well.
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I just wanted to look up pictures and stuff. But I don't want to spoil anything for the book cuz like she told us what happened during COVID and now we're getting her life story which I could live a little bit without like so much deep. I don't need to know about. Like your parents divorce and then they're both respective new marriages.
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Like except for the dad's wife because she's like part of Bell's life.
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Yeah, like more so than her mom.
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Except that her mom's boyfriend, when she talks about like the boyfriend, it's Charlie Rose.
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Oh, I'm not there yet.
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No, no, no, she doesn't say. But like she. Which she references her mom's boyfriend, one
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who like came to live with them for a few years.
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They got married and she liked him
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for one year and she loved him. And then her long term boyfriend who she ended up being with forever is Charlie Rose.
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Charlie Rose.
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Well that's the interesting thing about this rando woman is like her roots, her roots are rooted in like aristocracy, American royalty, academics. Like she's really like, she's really a socialite.
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She like her grandmother was Babe Paley who was married to the founder of cbs. Everyone is just like moneyed and right.
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And I don't know where it goes, but I imagine like her prenup ruins her life because you got to the part where she. They found the prenup but where she was being a dumb.
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Where she ignored legal advice. Yeah, where she ignored legal advice.
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But the crazy thing is like it can happen to like a story. Generational wealth woman. It can literally happen to anyone. So I plan on finishing it throughout the weekend. But yeah, I'm a woman of my word. I started Copper Spell Burden and so you're liking it? Oh, yeah.
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Okay.
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It grips you immediately. And it's a short book. That's my queen right there. Like, don't people think, like, in order for your book to be taken seriously, it has to be long? Look at Copper's Belbertum.
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Yeah.
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And for anybody who knows, doesn't know what book we're actually talking about. It's called Strangers by Bell Burden.
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And it's, like, what everyone's talking about, they're making into movies starring Gwyneth Paltrow, by the way.
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She's so Gwyneth.
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Yeah. It's a true story, this woman's story about the dissolution of her marriage, which happens in the first minute. So that's not a spoiler.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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Which I appreciate. That's the first thing. The second thing is I did something else crazy yesterday. Just sort of, like, took control of my own life. And I went to see a chiropractor because I'd heard, you know, I'm looking for alternate treatments for my. My thumb.
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Yeah.
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And I've heard that there are a couple of, you know, freaky deaky alternative methods. You know, acupuncture. And I've heard the chiropractor might work. There's, like, this method where they stimulate blood flow. So I just made an appointment with some random guy and I went. I didn't realize I was also making an appointment at a place that's also part physical therapy. And so obviously I was feeling triggered. Walking in the door, my pants, like, sort of fell down. On their own, it was great back and, like.
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But it wasn't Frank.
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No, it wasn't Frank. But, like, what is it with physical therapists that they're all handsome? Like, the guy was just like a really handsome. Like, nothing, you know, not like a model, but like a dad. And he was just, like, a handsome guy.
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Well, maybe it's like, if you're into physical therapy or into wellness and you keep up with yourself, you know.
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Yeah.
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You're not going to be, like, a slob.
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Yeah. Thankfully, this one was just my thumb. I'd have to take any clothes off. But I did feel a little bit of tingling in my thumb while I was reading Copper's Bell Burden.
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That's good. So it was working.
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He said, don't expect magic overnight. But, like, of course I have to come back. I'm going back on Friday for, like, a couple of sessions.
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I can't. I can't even think about your thumb.
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Like, I just want to say it, like, looks kind of Better.
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It does.
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It does.
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Yeah. Keep going.
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I really just don't want to get surgeries, you know, I'll try anything.
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That's great to not have to get surgery.
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And then the third thing, I wanted to tell you something that my husband did that honestly made me feel so weird, and I just need to, like, speak.
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Is it gonna make me feel weird?
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Yeah. Okay. So Ben got a teeth cleaning yesterday, which is, like, for sure.
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I'm scared because we're cooking together today.
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No, no, it's not like that.
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Okay.
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He did something socially weird, like, I
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kind of want this Mac, not gross.
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So Ben got a teeth cleaning here yesterday. And, like, for some reason, whenever Ben and I here, we go to the dentist. One of our, like, good friends who lives here. It's a dental practice, so we're like, always like, hey, Mark, can we go? Whatever. Ben was having, like, a gum issue. And then they were like, you also need a cleaning. So he went for a cleaning at 8am yesterday. And he called me after. He was, like, got the cleaning. Of course. They upsold him on a $75 electric toothbrush. And he was like, it was a really good cleaning. So I tipped the hygienist. He was like, wait, what? He's like, yeah, I gave her $50. I was like, what? He was like, she did a really good job. And I'm like, that's inappropriate.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Isn't that crazy?
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It is crazy.
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He's so weird.
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That's crazy. I mean, I'm sure she was grateful for it, but also just the idea of, like, money changing hands by, like, a hygienist.
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Money. So dirty.
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Money so dirty.
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Physically dirty.
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Yeah.
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Not, like.
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Not conceptually. We love money.
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We love money. Yeah. I thought it was so weird. And I guess he didn't think it was weird till I was like, are you okay? And then I think I, like, gave him a bit about it, but, like, that's really weird, right?
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Yeah. And also, it's just like, it sucks for the rest of us because now he's, like, raising the bar. Impossible standard. And we have to be tipping everywhere we go.
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I know. Like, as if tipping culture hasn't already gotten out of control, now we have to tip our medical professional. I don't think so, honey. No, no.
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Not with the insurance system as broken as it is.
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Next thing you know, like, your pediatric gonna have an iPad that they flip around.
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Yeah.
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How crazy. He's so weird. My husband's so crazy.
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Like, that is.
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I don't even know where, like, seriously, where he Came from. He's an anomaly wrapped in a riddle.
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And Cash watched Rory yesterday. Last night, watch my catch up. I only had one episode, which was, like, so manageable. When I finished, I was like, what should I do?
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Yes.
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So did Admin. We have a story. Yeah, yeah, we'll talk about at the end of the show. And also, like, we can't talk about the top of the show every day. Yeah, that's how. That's how we annoy people.
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Yeah. And we hate to do that.
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We do. We only do it when we have to slamo West Mandeville.
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Yes.
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No, this is not urgent, so we're gonna stop talking about it. Any minute now.
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Now.
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Any minute now. And then. Other than that, today's a major day. I can't believe you haven't mentioned the majorness of the day.
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Yes, that's right. My angel boy turned one today. Yesterday. Not yesterday. One year ago today. I became a mama. Now I will say it's kind of a terrible day. I feel, like, this overwhelming sense of, like, sadness and dread. And I know that's, like, not what I'm supposed to be feeling, so I need to just, like, snap out of it. But I cried all night, obviously. Picked him up out of his crib in the middle of the night because I was just, like, missing him. And we're having, like, a little party barbecue today, so it's going to be great. I'm just, like, not in the mood. Like, I want. Where's my baby?
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Yeah. You're wanting a baby?
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Where's the baby?
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Yeah. No, and he's entering, like, his. His medium boy era.
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It's just not going to work for me. And, like, every time I say that to Ben, he's like, I know what. He's just trying to make me feel better. He's being so annoying. He was like, no, it's a blessing of.
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Of course.
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Obviously, it's a blessing like that. I don't have to say that, because obviously. But he's just, like. He won't, like, give in to my sadness. Which is fine.
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No, but it's also. It's not even just that Ruby's turning one. It's like, it's your first year of motherhood. Like, it's about you and more so about that. And I do feel like for first birthdays, especially because the babies, like, don't remember them, like, it really is more about the mother.
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Absolutely.
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You know, so today we're celebrating you.
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Absolutely. This feels, like, more special than my birthday.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. My angel.
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So cute. I'm excited for the party.
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Me, too. Like, it's gonna be great. It's all good. Of course, the Knicks are playing tonight, which, like, they have to win for my angel.
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Okay, so it's good.
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It's good, it's good, it's good.
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Yeah. But just major, major milestone.
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Major milestone. Major depressive episode incoming. Such is life.
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But then, like, once you process that, like, it's all very exciting. You know what I mean? Yeah, no, it's good. No, no. Like, like, because then you get to, like, it's a whole new world.
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Yeah, no, it's good, it's good, it's good.
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Okay, let's get into the story so we can talk about our favorite thing, Rhode Island.
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Okay.
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Without further. Do that, do that, do it. Is time for the past five stories that you do need to know.
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Yeah, I don't really know a lot of people who say that.
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And I just said it, and, like, I felt dumb. It's like plural. Underwear is underwear.
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Yeah.
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Like, multiple pairs of Underwear.
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Yeah.
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You need the flip up. I know. Have you tried the Mesa Tumbler?
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I brought it to Mah Jongg the other day.
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Have you tried the Mesa Tumbler?
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Somebody asked me if it was hand painted like insane.
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Have you tried the Mesa Tumbler?
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No. I know how Olivia loves it too.
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No, no. Take a sip. Okay, so it's like a straw, but you. You don't have to pull back. It's right there. And guess what? And guess what?
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It's ew. What are you drinking?
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Oh, electrolytes. It's almost empty. Doesn't it feel like it's right here?
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No, no, no. Well, now it's like I'm just getting all the lipstick off, including my own. Like, it's not about you anymore. I just happen to have this opportunity,
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my something not being about me. Sure.
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I have this opportunity to clean my water bottle. Thank you. Simple Matter. I love this water bottle. So that I got to highlight it and show you a live demo. Our first story, Kylie Jenner makes a rare comment about her man's Timothy. She's thirsting over her boyfriend in comment section on Page Six's Tick Tock. So Page Six posted a video of Timothee Chalamet walking into the Knicks game, like, in slow mo, like, very pargy. And she commented, daddy and then deleted.
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Because then I saw this. I was like, I love this. And then I was scrolling Tick Tock and I actually got served organically the video. And I went to the comments. And first of all, the top comment was Victoria, Kylie's friend, writing Daddy, like, obviously replacing her comment. Because then all the other comments were, like, me looking for Kylie's comment, like, did she delete it?
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And that does raise something that I'm curious about. In their relationship, there's obviously a very big sense of privacy in the relationship. They don't talk about each other, really. They do all this stuff, but they're very much, like, off limits. They've been dating for a very long time, but we have to, like, act like they're not dating. And she never posted him on her Instagram. He doesn't post her. It's only, like, ideas of him or whatever. And it's like, where is this coming from? Like, which one of them is pushing for this? Because it bothers me.
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Because when celebrities are private, sometimes it's just like earnest, like, and it's sweet and they just want privacy. But I feel like a lot of times, you know, people are having that conversation now about Joe Burrow. He's been dating that girl, Olivia Ponton for, like, literally two years now. They get spotted out all, all the time together, but never physically together. He makes, like, her get out of the car first. And everybody's like, why is she accepting? It's actually so disrespectful. At least Kylie and Timothy, like, they're always together.
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Yeah.
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But, like, sometimes now, even in hindsight with like, Taylor and Joe, it's like, what are you hiding so much?
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No. And it's like, what's the big deal if we see a picture of Joe and Olivia walking into a restaurant together? Like, what's the big deal? That's your girlfriend. Like, I understand in the beginning of a relationship you want privacy because you don't want outside influences. And for, like, for a while in a relationship, you don't. You are always walking on eggshells, right to, you know, like, until you're really settled and, like, that's your person and, like, you can.
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Kylie and Timothy are settled.
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Kylie and Timothy are settled. They do everything together. So, like, what's with this insistence on, like, no social media together or, like, really just, like, going all the way in on things that are already happening.
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I do wonder, like, whose camp it's coming from. Like, I could see Kylie wanting it just because, like, maybe things didn't work out with Travis the way that she had hoped. And maybe she regrets, like, having been so public. Timothy, like, I don't really know Timothy to have been in a long term relationship before this. So, like, maybe this is how he does stuff. But you can't really have that expectation when you're dating a Jenner Kardashian.
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No. And it's like we're all, we're at 98 of, like, exposure on their relationship. Like, what's with the last 2%? Like, why are you holding out? It's like.
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And the last 2% is really just social media.
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Yeah.
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Because they go to Red Carpets together and they are paparazzi together all the time.
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And interviews. I would say no, they Reference each
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other as, like, boyfriends.
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They would say, like, I have a boyfriend or like, kids.
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A
He said, like to my partner, Kid
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B
Cudi had the nerve to ask her, like, about a movie of Timothy's. Yeah, but no, she doesn't, like, talk about her relationship, nor does he. And it's like, just look at Taylor and Travis. Just jump in.
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A
I know, I know. But I do think, like, you could, yeah, look at Taylor and Travis and then you could also say, look at somebody else. And like, it goes terribly wrong. Yeah, they give us stuff. So, like, I can't be ungrateful.
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B
They've been together for over two years. At this point, if they don't work out, it's not because they shared too much on social media, but maybe they
- [19:31]
A
think that, like, now that if they share, like, it'll be a curse, you know, the Kardashian curse.
- [19:35]
B
Yeah, I guess. But also. So she commented daddy and then deleted it.
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A
I didn't. I did not see it.
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B
Well, it's like people have screenshots of it.
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A
Yeah, of course. No, no, I'm not saying it never existed. I'm saying, like, maybe she, like, regretted
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B
or he, like, called her and was like, screaming. I don't think he loves her.
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A
And I think too, I think she really is in control. Especially with like the media narrative. Especially ever since Bell Ballerina Gate, you know, he can't get involved. Yeah, I feel annoyed. I agree. But it's not like they gave us nothing for a while. They gave us genuinely nothing. I feel like these days, especially with like the Knicks game and stuff, we get a lot.
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B
We do. And we get red carpets and it's okay. I just, I wonder what's holding them back from like, sharing and. And social media is their terms, right? Like, they get red carpet pictures, taking them Nyx pictures. They don't get to control how, like, they look or like if someone's making a face where it looks like they don't like the other. But like, on social media, you get to put out exactly what you want and, like, show us only what you want. I don't know why she wouldn't want to do that.
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A
Even going to the Nick game is actually like, so personal because you're literally being watched by.
- [20:37]
B
It's a three hour livestream of your relationship.
- [20:40]
A
Lips, lip reading. Like I somebody. I watched a lip reader reading their conversation where he was like, yeah, I really want to try that. Like, it's actually so invasive. More so than a carousel. And you know that he's in posting pictures and Turks and Caicos. She's perfect. Like, come on.
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B
Yeah, yeah.
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A
No, we're just, like, we're greedy because, like, they do give us a decent amount. But I wonder why I. I had
- [20:59]
B
accepted the fact that we're not getting it. It's not even about that I want it. I'm just curious, like, why they have this hard stop. Like, what this one thing they want
- [21:07]
A
to keep for themselves, like, which is what? Like, I'm not sure.
- [21:09]
B
Pictures of themselves that they take. Like, I don't know.
- [21:14]
A
And Timothy's actually, like, hella active on Instagram. I only recently followed him because that's my friend's boyfriend.
- [21:18]
B
I didn't even know he had Instagram. Yeah.
- [21:20]
A
No. And he, like, posted a mirror picture this morning, like, of his outfit. He was wearing, like, huge basketball shorts, like, all the way down.
- [21:25]
B
To have stories or.
- [21:27]
A
Yeah. You want to say?
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B
Sure. I didn't know that he does stories.
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A
No, he did a story, like, and I. It didn't feel like it was the first one I'd ever seen. Timothy. Yeah, he, like, pretty. He has 20 million followers here, look. Mirror pick. 14 hours ago. And wait, he also has one more story. He's riding a scooter.
- [21:45]
B
Okay. That's crazy that he does stories.
- [21:48]
A
He's just, like, a little Jewish kid from New York, you know?
- [21:51]
B
Yeah. Kylie loves him.
- [21:54]
A
Kylie, convert. Kylie the convert. That's what we need, you know, Even though, you know, Scott Disick and his kids do carry the Jewish.
- [22:02]
B
Yeah.
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A
In the Kardashian. The Kardashians are literally the United Nations. Like, they have got it all covered, but, you know, always good to have more Jews.
- [22:11]
B
Kylie would be.
- [22:12]
A
Kylie would be such a proud gas.
- [22:14]
B
Yeah. She would really be great. And maybe that's what's holding it all up.
- [22:17]
A
I just want to let you guys know, like. Like, and it's not the craziest thing, if Kylie Jenner ever actually converted to Judaism, any denomination, Reform Conservative. I don't know if I would be okay. I actually don't think I would recover. That would be the craziest thing.
- [22:33]
B
Yeah. Like, I don't want to get too excited. It would be.
- [22:36]
A
What if she's already done it?
- [22:37]
B
Like, imagine she's, like, making collas, having Jake Shane over for Shabbat.
- [22:40]
A
I'm throwing up. I'm literally throwing up.
- [22:43]
B
And, like, maybe, like, make him a kuggle.
- [22:44]
A
She can, like, read the haftora at Mason's bar mitzvah or something. Even though I think Mason already had his bar mitzvah.
- [22:48]
B
Yeah. He did he.
- [22:49]
A
Did the next one rain Penelope?
- [22:52]
B
No. She'll do, like one of the seven blessings at their wedding.
- [22:55]
A
Yeah.
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B
That's really beautiful. I don't want to get too excited, of course.
- [22:58]
A
I actually just didn't had to realize till this very moment that that was even, like, a remote possibility. It's not that crazy.
- [23:02]
B
Yeah. I just want her to leave up her comment that said, daddy. That's really all I wanted.
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A
Right. Small scale, that. Big scale.
- [23:08]
B
Judaism, conversion.
- [23:10]
A
I know a great. I know a great rabbi. I'm sure Timothy does, too.
- [23:12]
B
Yeah, I'm sure.
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A
I'm sure.
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B
I'm sure.
- [23:14]
A
Is.
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B
Is Judaism important to Timothy?
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A
I don't get the sense. Although I do think he actually. I don't know, with Marty supreme, like, that was like a very Lower east side Jewish story.
- [23:23]
B
I do feel like Bob Dylan.
- [23:25]
A
Right. Actually Jew. I do feel like he identifies largely as a Jew. I don't know in practice how much he's, like, lighting candles or making kiddish. And I don't know.
- [23:34]
B
And it's his mother who's Jewish.
- [23:36]
A
Yes. I think.
- [23:37]
B
And he's close with. No, Chalamet.
- [23:39]
A
They're French. So. Hold on. I looked this up once. Timothy Chalamet, parents Jewish. Like, if you're. This is like, so classic, like, Googling. Who's. His mother is Jewish. His father is not. But that's all. You need your mother to be Jewish.
- [23:52]
B
And he's close with his mother.
- [23:53]
A
Yeah.
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B
I.
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A
I just think it's. It's not the craziest thing.
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B
Oh, my God. Wow.
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A
Oh, my God.
- [24:01]
B
I didn't really think that it was possible.
- [24:03]
A
I know. And now that you do, like, are you able to think of anything else? No.
- [24:07]
B
Then. Then Kylie has the Chavez Malka. No, I can't.
- [24:13]
A
And Kylie just wearing, like, a shadow over her head to go to synagogue. Even though the Kardashians, they don't talk about it a lot, but, like, they're like a deeply religious family.
- [24:23]
B
Spiritual.
- [24:23]
A
Spiritual. Yeah. Like, I don't think Kylie's really. Because the thing about Judaism is, like, we have a lot going for us. One thing we don't really have going for us is, like, aesthetics. Like Easter. Like, I feel like the Kardashians love the aesthetics of religion, too. And they're always, like, leaning in.
- [24:36]
B
They love the cross.
- [24:38]
A
Yeah, they do. I could see Kylie rocking like a big Star of David necklace.
- [24:41]
B
Yes.
- [24:42]
A
I just don't think, like, she'd be willing to give up Christmas.
- [24:45]
B
Yeah, no, she wouldn't be willing to give it up. I think it would be interfaith, but Timothy's used to interfaith because his parents are interfaith.
- [24:51]
A
Hanukkah Bush.
- [24:52]
B
His parents are interfaith. So I think it would. I don't think he would make her convert because his parents didn't convert.
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A
Kylie, if you are even remotely interested in converting or you've already begun the process, leave us a little hint on your Instagram stories, because I know you
- [25:07]
B
post a candle in some.
- [25:10]
A
Oh, that's really good. Yeah.
- [25:11]
B
You know, like a diptyque. Any sort of flame.
- [25:14]
A
Yankee. Yeah. Any sort of a bonfire.
- [25:17]
B
Yeah. A fire candle.
- [25:19]
A
Yeah, we need a flame because she
- [25:20]
B
does, like, when we ask her to do this, she does sort of extrapolate.
- [25:24]
A
Yeah. Because she can't be too obvious.
- [25:25]
B
I think it would be a bonfire, like, now we've called her out on it.
- [25:28]
A
So she'll get creative, like.
- [25:29]
B
Yeah, she will.
- [25:30]
A
Stove Top or something.
- [25:31]
B
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. But I don't want to take all her ideas. Candle, flame, flame. Are you ready for our next story?
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A
Timothy Flame. Yeah.
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B
Aaron Rodgers announces he's retiring after the upcoming NFL season.
- [25:45]
A
Oh. So still have one more. Is he on the Jets?
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B
He's on the Steelers after his upcoming 22nd season. Wow. In the NFL, Aaron Rodgers plans to hang up his cleats. The longtime quarterback announced that he will retire at the end of the 26th season, finishing out his future hall of Fame career with. With the Steelers. He shared the news during a press conference at the practice facility. He was asked if this would be his final season. Simply saying, yes, this is it. Wow. I love that.
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A
Very simple. Athletes love to be drama.
- [26:12]
B
Yeah. They're like, I'm making an announcement at 3 o'. Clock.
- [26:15]
A
Will they. Won't they?
- [26:16]
B
But they probably asked him because they like to, like, you know, taunt him, and he's like, yeah, I am great.
- [26:21]
A
No big ceremony. Well, bye.
- [26:25]
B
I feel bad for him because this is not. I mean, maybe the Steelers will win the super bowl this year.
- [26:30]
A
That. I hope they make it, like, decently far.
- [26:32]
B
I hope he has a good season to, like, finish out his career because,
- [26:35]
A
like, it's a pretty bad way to go out, like, the whole jets. Like, why did he leave the Packers? Was there drama there?
- [26:42]
B
Oh, yeah. They. They hired another quarterback when he needed other players, like, to build around him and they're investing in, like, new.
- [26:50]
A
New future placement.
- [26:51]
B
Yeah, that's what I think happened.
- [26:52]
A
So I. I guess that's also a bad way to go out. So he thought maybe the jets could Be his. But, like, the Jets. And I say this as a Jets fan, like. Like, it takes. It's gonna take a lot more than Aaron Rodgers, you know? And then, of course, day one, game one, he gets injured. So this is why I actually have a little bit of sympathy for, like, Tom Brady. It is really hard to time your retirement perfectly. Although Tom Brady, like, literally won several Super Bowls, and each time, like, he had the opportunity to retire peacefully, and he wouldn't. So, like, that's not a perfect example, but I do think it's really hard to time. You always, like, well, if I get one more, I can go out better than now. And actually, it could be worse. So you know what? I guess I'm silently rooting for the Steelers this season. Like, yeah, he's not, like, embarrassed.
- [27:33]
B
No. He's, like, so prideful.
- [27:35]
A
Yeah.
- [27:35]
B
And he's so, like, dedicated to the game and the craft. 22 years. Like, he deserves a playoffs, a better ending.
- [27:43]
A
Yeah. I think that's also, like, currently what we're seeing with Travy. He doesn't know how to go out.
- [27:47]
B
Okay. But, like.
- [27:48]
A
But he does still have a few years technically in him.
- [27:51]
B
But correct me if I'm wrong, like, Travis is not Aaron Rodgers.
- [27:55]
A
No.
- [27:55]
B
Okay.
- [27:56]
A
Like, Aaron Rodgers led a whole franchise successfully for, like, a decade.
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B
Yeah. Travis is a great player on the team.
- [28:07]
A
Right?
- [28:07]
B
Yeah. Travis is one of the best head ends. Aaron's one of the best quarterbacks. But I do think, like, quarterback is,
- [28:11]
A
like, kind of more impactful.
- [28:12]
B
Quarterback is a higher tier of quarterback.
- [28:15]
A
Greater than.
- [28:16]
B
Yeah, greater than all. They're the leader.
- [28:18]
A
Like, score the points.
- [28:19]
B
No, no, but they're the leader of the team.
- [28:20]
A
The captain. Yeah, no, I.
- [28:21]
B
They're the leader.
- [28:22]
A
I agree. So I miss when we talk about football.
- [28:24]
B
Me, too. We're so far out.
- [28:26]
A
But we're so far out.
- [28:28]
B
We could talk about baseball.
- [28:30]
A
We could.
- [28:30]
B
We talk about basketball.
- [28:32]
A
Oh, right. We're talking about basketball. Go.
- [28:33]
B
Next we talk about gakuba.
- [28:36]
A
Yeah, that's basketball, guys.
- [28:41]
B
That's what Charlie used to call basketball when he was small. And now I'm like.
- [28:44]
A
That's also what he used to call blueberries now.
- [28:46]
B
Yeah. Well, because he thought they looked like basketball. Kak.
- [28:48]
A
Literally. Genius, genius, genius.
- [28:54]
B
Oh, and you're entering that phase soon. Yes. Yes. Of cute words.
- [28:58]
A
Yes. No, no, it's all good.
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B
Like, what is he gonna call basketball?
- [29:02]
A
Probably what his big cousins call it.
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B
Are you ready for our next story?
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A
Yeah.
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B
Which is one of our favorite topics. Two of our favorite topics. Influencer News and Bethenny Frankel. Bethenny Frankel reveals the astronomical amount she makes a year in brand deals. So Bethenny Frankel is on Emma Greed's podcast called Expire, and she's really spilling the tea and giving the exclusive.
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A
And I also feel like there, this is a, an interesting, like, point in Bethany's career because she's always kind of been this, like, I don't want to say polarizing, but just, like, lightning rod type of. And now I feel like she's really entered into, like, polarizing figure territory because Emma Greed, like, had to make a TikTok. She posted a trailer being, like, my next guest on a Spy or Bethany. The little clips, exciting, drumming up excitement. And then Emma Green was like, I just wanted to hop on here. Like, I'm getting so much pushback. People telling me to, like, sack the episode, like, not release it. And I was like, I would never do that. That's just bad business. Like, everyone's talking about my episode. Why would I not release it? I just, I, I. It must have been like a perfect storm of, like, a few things.
- [30:10]
B
It's kind of the perfect storm like the day after Newgate.
- [30:13]
A
Yeah. Right. Shoegate. It's just she really has become this, like, like, polarizing person.
- [30:20]
B
Yeah.
- [30:20]
A
But, like, acting like they act when, you know, like, a politician goes on something.
- [30:24]
B
But it's, but it's, like, really not real because it's like Emma Green posted on Tick Tock the. The clip of the podcast. And yes, Tick Tock is where, like, the, the Shoegate haters live. And so they all occupied the comments. But, like, that's not the real world.
- [30:38]
A
No. And I'm sure Bethany's episode of this podcast is probably one of the better performing episodes.
- [30:43]
B
Yeah. So I don't. I think, yes, she's polarizing on TikTok, and I think she's been that way for a very long time since she started doing these reviews.
- [30:50]
A
And, like, TikTok is the sort of Gen Z platform. And, like, first of all, Bethany is not beloved by Gen Z. Like, she is who she is because of, like, the millennials. And honestly, the women her age, like, from Bravo and stuff. But, like, yeah, they would hate Bethany because Bethany, like, shares hard truths. And Bethany's like, no. And, like, not opposite Gen Z being like, this is the safe space. Your feelings are valid. Like, not with Bethany.
- [31:12]
B
Yeah.
- [31:12]
A
So I get why, you know, why she's considered maybe that on TikTok.
- [31:16]
B
Yeah.
- [31:16]
A
That's also like, where she has success. So, like.
- [31:20]
B
Yeah, no, and she thrives there. And that's. And all of that discourse like, contributes to her success.
- [31:25]
A
Yeah.
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B
So she revealed the amount of money that she's making on brand deals. In a year, she has raked in over $20 million per year thanks to her lucrative influencer contracts. So she told Emma greed, it's tens of millions of dollars. This is not including my other businesses, my real estate, my licensing. We're talking like 20 plus million dollars.
- [31:43]
A
Well, when she was here on the toast, I asked her like skinny girl business, you know, cover of Forbes influence her, like, what's the difference? And she said like, my best day in the COVID of Forbes era doesn't even come close to what I'm doing now.
- [31:56]
B
Yeah. She said, I'm not that comfortable with it just because it'll make people mad at me.
- [31:59]
A
Yeah, right.
- [31:59]
B
I believe that people shouldn't work for free. Interns, I pay. I don't believe in anybody working for free. And if you're moving product and you're affecting an outcome honestly, then I believe you should be confident, compensated. So I don't feel guilty about it. She adds that the products she promotes are only ones she truly believes in and uses. I'm very trusted and partners come to me for their marketing budgets. Like multi billion dollar companies come to me to figure out how they're going to spend. She explained also that she can talk about anything she wants, which is something brands look for. Also very true. A lot of people have a niche and it's like, well, we're going to ask you to promote our beauty products, not our food.
- [32:28]
A
Right. Or other people. You do food, she does food, she does beauty.
- [32:32]
B
It's just Bethany. Any product a human would use, Bethany would use it.
- [32:36]
A
It's true. She is really versatile. She also said something interesting that I thought was was cool being like she works with businesses on multiple scales. Like obviously one of her biggest partners is l' Oreal and her contract with them is like several million dollars a year. But if there's a brand that came to her with a budget, like she makes the budget work no matter what, if it's a small budget or a big budget. And that's why she says she's making so much money, is because like she's able to do multi million. And also like a story, she has a newsletter and it's just her.
- [32:59]
B
The Beatles. Yeah, whatever.
- [33:01]
A
And I thought that was really smart because I think a lot of times when you're at that level, like if the budget doesn't match your. Right, bye.
- [33:07]
B
Yeah.
- [33:07]
A
But she makes it Work. She never turns anything down. If it's like a brand that she wants to work with and they have budget.
- [33:11]
B
Yeah.
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A
Which I thought was cool. People just, like, can't take Bethany. She's just a force.
- [33:19]
B
And I don't understand it. I love it.
- [33:23]
A
It's inspiring.
- [33:24]
B
She's like. She's so magnetic.
- [33:26]
A
Yeah.
- [33:27]
B
Even when she was on the toast, I. We literally watched the episode three times.
- [33:30]
A
We did.
- [33:31]
B
And I don't know what the factor is about her that, like, like, keeps people glued. Maybe it's because, like, you don't know what she's gonna say that's, you know, I don't want to watch someone who I know what's coming out of their mouth and it's boring and it's lukewarm or it's outrageous just for outrageous sake. Like, I don't know. She just, like, has something that's just, like, so gripping.
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A
She is smart too. So, like, while I think a lot of the things that she says is not, like, what the. What everyone's saying, she. She is a person who. You want to hear what she has to say because she, like, her story is very impressive in terms of how she grew up and now, like, literally having a second peak so late. Not late, but, like, later on in her career. I think it's inspiring to a lot of women her age and also, like, women our age, like, yeah, the best is yet to come.
- [34:11]
B
Yeah. She mentioned that, like, in her interview with Emma, like, about how moms and, like, older women, like, appreciate that she's in this space. She's on Sports Illustrated, like, we haven't been forgotten. She's like, she's. People are not understanding what it is because it's strange that I walk Sports Illustrated with 25 year olds.
- [34:27]
A
Right.
- [34:27]
B
There's nobody my age there, but it's not like they're giving me the token grandma role. It's true. It's landing because moms are saying thank you for not disqualifying us as a group. I could be alienating moms, but I'm not.
- [34:37]
A
I think also what rubs people the wrong way about Bethany is, like, maybe someone in her position, like, would act coy or she's very, like, proud and sure of herself. So I think that, like, a lot of the things like that, I think women are, like, supposed to say, oh, it's like, such an honor. It's like, no, yeah, look at me. I'm amazing. And so I think people are put off by, like, her refusal to act shy or coy or just she is like very matter of fact about her accomplishments. And I think that that's just not what people are used to.
- [35:03]
B
Yeah. Also I guess it's like when that those things come with age sometimes, like wisdom and confidence and having confidence in your wisdom. And so like we don't have a lot of influencers who are sure of themselves. They're all like burgeoning 20 year olds, crippling, insecure. And everything someone says to them they're going to apologize for because they like feel bad, they don't know who they are. And it's refreshing to like follow someone older who, who's not hung up with those things.
- [35:26]
A
It is refreshing and it's different. So I think that's what, that's part of why it rubs people the wrong way. But there's, that's what we like encourage each other to do, like to be confident.
- [35:34]
B
But that's why it works, I think.
- [35:36]
A
Yeah. And I think that's also why her audience is skews a little bit more older because the older you get, the more you appreciate that. Whereas I think like when you're younger you resent it. And I think it's like cringy.
- [35:46]
B
I don't know. I feel like she's not like I, I do feel like Gen Z is there. They're paying attention.
- [35:51]
A
Like they're paying attention. Yeah.
- [35:52]
B
And even though she's not like their comfort, I feel like everyone likes a little bit of like, like, yeah, like beaming to me.
- [36:00]
A
Yeah. She also just like she has haters. Like, like everyone.
- [36:04]
B
Yeah.
- [36:05]
A
You know?
- [36:05]
B
Yeah. So that was interesting.
- [36:08]
A
Yeah.
- [36:08]
B
Listen to the episode. Our next story. Jessica Simpson reveals why she was sitting apart from her kids on her flight to Hawaii.
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A
Reveals like, what's a. Kids shouldn't sit in first class. Like, sorry, I'm with her.
- [36:20]
B
So Jessica Simpson was talking to photographers at the airport. They asked her about this. Nick.
- [36:26]
A
Nick. Right, Nicholas. So blowing up her spot.
- [36:29]
B
So she set the record straight. She said, my mom bought those tickets. It was my mom's treat for us to go to Hawaii. She was then asked whether her kids would have been sitting with her if she had purchased the ticket. She said of course that they would have been with her if it was her trip. And she purchased them. And they were in the back with the husband.
- [36:45]
A
Yeah. Okay.
- [36:46]
B
Like seriously love with the estranged husband.
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A
I just like hate that she has to explain herself and like even let's say it was her trip and maybe she's like, like getting flack. So she was like, yeah, if I bought it like, everyone would have been sitting together. Like, I think there should be more love. She should be more respected for this. Like, I'm sure her kids live a very lavish life. They live in Hidden Hills. They're friends with the Kardashians. Like, they're fine. So, yeah, like, making them sit and coach, like, that's exactly the type of behavior, like, we want our billionaires to instill in their children. So the fact that everyone's making this such a big deal, like, who gives a. It's good.
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B
It's also really crazy. There was a fly on my water bottle. He loves the water bottle too. It's also really crazy to me that her and Nick and Vanessa were, like, stuck in, like, a confined space for six hours on a flight to Hawaii. Like, nightmare fuel. Like, that's each other's number one op. She said yes. I think Jessica for Nick and Nick and Vanessa. Jessica for Vanessa and Vanessa for Jessica and Nick and Vanessa for Jess.
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A
Like, I know if Vanessa for Jessica.
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B
Your ex husband's wife. Wife. Your ex husband. It's not a boyfriend. A husband.
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A
I know, but, like, they were seriously teenagers.
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B
I'm sorry. That's just so crazy and so unfortunate. She said that they did all talk, and it was really pleasant. And what's so funny is, like, when Nick and Jessica, like, split in the book, like, two couldn't be worse for each other. Go away. Goodbye. But, like, they've actually wound up with the same life, right? Like, three kids, each going to Hawaii,
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A
still working in the industry maybe, like,
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B
which they could have made a wear.
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A
Oh, you think that.
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B
You know what I mean?
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A
Like, right person, wrong.
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B
It's not like they didn't want different things.
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A
That's true.
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B
But I also think, like, they wanted three kids and to go to Hawaii.
- [38:20]
A
It was never gonna work with Nick. Being in a relationship with somebody who's in his industry. On another level, him and Vanessa, like, actually are complimentary.
- [38:28]
B
Yes. Those are the things that split them up. But I'm just saying, if they, like, worked past that, they, like, they could
- [38:32]
A
have matured a little bit. Yeah.
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B
If they work past that they want, they would have had the same life.
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A
I do think. Yeah. They both. I go to church a lot.
- [38:37]
B
Like, sometimes you see two people who divorce and, like. Like, you can't even imagine how they were ever together. Because this one did that and that one did this and this is. But, like, look, they have the same life also.
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A
Like, copper's bell burden. Sometimes you go through a divorce and you become a completely different person. But no, that wasn't the case for them. They were also really young.
- [38:50]
B
Yeah, but I also, I couldn't see Jessica hosting Love is Blind.
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A
I don't know, I feel like she had to a place in her career where, like, she might have needed to.
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B
No, I. I don't think that she would be a good host.
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A
Oh, me neither.
- [39:03]
B
Love is Blind. But Vanessa is a good host. Host.
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A
She's a professional host.
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B
Yeah. So like trl, she was something.
- [39:08]
A
One of those. Yeah.
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B
So I don't know how that would have worked, but just saying. It's just sometimes funny like that. Like, hey, you actually married the same person.
- [39:17]
A
Yeah. And I don't know anything about Jessica's husband except for the fact that he's like a former athlete.
- [39:21]
B
And like, if an alien came down from space and looked at these four people, they wouldn't see a difference.
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A
Yeah, we're all. I mean, that's beautiful. We're all human.
- [39:29]
B
Well, that's why we need to all go to outer space. Absolutely. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? Finally, Rory, recap.
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A
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B
Oh, oh, our Crocs that we're wearing today.
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A
I'm wearing mine in two wheel drive today. How cute are these? These are the new ones with the
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B
buckle, not the two wheel drive. I have the buckle as well. Mine are a creamy color.
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A
I just want to say I'm obsessed with Crocs, like, always. I feel like I started wearing them in camp and then like, they actually are extremely high fashion. But it is so hot here and I need shoes that are supportive. But also I like. You see these holes? Like, I need air to get through.
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B
Crocs are great if you're ventilation.
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A
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B
Yeah. They're also great for parenting. They're great indoor outdoor shoe, you know, cuz, like it's. I want to wear slippers in the house, but I don't want to wear my slippers outside. But I can wear Crocs in the house and I can wear Crocs outside.
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A
Yeah. I have like my indoor Crocs and my outdoor Crocs. You feel that?
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B
Yeah. No, you need Crocs, like at every door.
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A
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Look at my gibbit. Look at my Jibbitz.
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B
I bet you never saw Jibbitz like these.
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A
Yeah.
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B
No.
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A
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B
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B
Like everybody knows.
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A
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B
I have fur lined as well.
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A
So nice for like this. But then the warmer months, like I need ventilation coming through my shoe. I hate a stinky foot. That's why crocs are great also. Yeah, I'm a very active mother. I love water sports. I am a waterside.
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B
Oh, and don't get us started on crocs for kids. Don't like actually don't kids love crocs?
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A
What's not to love? They're so fun. It's such a fun way to express your creativity. Like they have a lot of sports teams. Jibbitz. Of course we have cowboys is it's so cute. And then like you can have like a bunch of unicorn ones. It's also fun activity like popping them in and like designing your shoe. Really great way to kill an afternoon. So we love crocs. We're excited to be sponsored by Crocs. Visit crocs.com or a store near you to find the perfect pair of Croc Shoes. That's C-R O C S.com you can find a store near you to find the perfect pair of crocs or you can also shop online, which I do quite often. They also have like platform crocs. Like not me going hitting the club in my crocs.
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Right.
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B
They need the corresponding croc color.
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thank you, Turd Skinco.
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You're welcome.
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B
Our fifth and final story. So leading into Rory recap. But Ashley Kennedy talks about parenting while filming Rory on her podcast, saying that it is very hard. She said she's actually on the verge of a mental breakdown.
- [44:22]
A
Yeah, I. I can sense that.
- [44:23]
B
Yeah. No, not even just the filming of the show, but I think also like the promo and the watching it.
- [44:27]
A
I feel like that's actually the harder part is like, after the filming, like, all the. All that's required, especially they don't live in, like a major city. So she probably has to leave home quite a bit to do press, go on and watch Robins live, all that stuff.
- [44:37]
B
She has her, like, already obligations of full time. She does her podcast with Ben Higgins and she's so crazy.
- [44:43]
A
Do you guys remember, like, the era of Bachelor where, like every Bachelor person was getting an ihear radio podcast and this was like a really popular one. It was such a random pairing, but look at. And they're all. They've all come and go, but this one's still standing.
- [44:54]
B
Yeah, no, I think people really like it. She said that being married, raising kids, and juggling reality TV can be tough. She said it's been a crazy couple of weeks for both of them and she felt on the verge of a mental breakdown. She said it's really hard to be a parent while going through all of this. And now we can say filming for season two because they got renewed bracing for that filming. I can't do it all myself anymore. I guess she needs, like, Jared to, like, stop with the coffee shop.
- [45:16]
A
Okay. So I thought that was actually a really interesting part of her scenes, which she did film in her house. I don't know.
- [45:22]
B
Yeah, but. And you. Did you realize it was the first time we've been there?
- [45:25]
A
No. It felt familiar to me. I can't lie.
- [45:27]
B
You knew your way around.
- [45:28]
A
Yes. Not my house, but I know my way around. I thought that conversation was really interesting about how, like, Jared quite literally is gone all day every day making no money. Like, and it's the money that he could make in a single Instagram post, but he just, like, refuses to use his energy and his days to do that. I guess he finds it unfulfilling.
- [45:46]
B
Yeah. Like, he wants. That's real work labor, not social media.
- [45:50]
A
And while. While I do actually think that might be admirable, like, at a certain point, you gotta call it, like, you spending all the time away from home to bring in no income just to make yourself feel better. Meanwhile, your wife is then at home making the income and being the parent. That's actually not fair. No.
- [46:06]
B
And you don't feel better. You're doing all of this and you've
- [46:09]
A
never been less happy.
- [46:10]
B
You're so unhappy. She let you do this so that you would be happy and, like, lead a fulfilling life because she can understand that, like, being a social media influencer isn't, like, what everyone wants with your days. You want to produce something and give a cup of coffee and it's not making you happy. So, like, at this point, you're actually just, like, neglecting your family. You're. It's worse than being a deadbeat because you're actually taking away time. You're taking away money because that's time that she can't spend working on her things. And you see how she, like, films her ad in like, a.
- [46:36]
A
And the kids have to go hide
- [46:37]
B
in the basement and like, the friend is filming it and it's like she's doing every, like, imagine what she could do if she had had more time and more help and more resources.
- [46:44]
A
No, I didn't realize, like, when I was watching the show that I was gonna just hate Jared Hybon, but I hate him.
- [46:50]
B
But. And she's very supportive, which is something that I really admire about her. But it gets to a point of like, enabling.
- [46:56]
A
Yeah, absolutely.
- [46:57]
B
And this is ridiculous.
- [46:58]
A
No, I agree. That was very upsetting. And like, when she just laid out the financials that, like, the coffee shop brings in no money and actually opportunity costs. Like, you're now not at home, not supporting, not helping with the family. We're outsourcing a nanny. Like, seriously, grow up. I feel like when you, like, it's. It's admirable to have hopes and dreams, but when you become a dad, a dad of two, like, that sort of goes out the window and logic has to win and reason has to win. And it's like, this makes no sense. This is unreasonable.
- [47:24]
B
Yeah. At this point, it'd be better if he didn't work at all.
- [47:26]
A
Yeah. At least he could be with the kids.
- [47:27]
B
Yeah.
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A
They wouldn't need that 30 hour a week nanny.
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B
And she wouldn't be, like, stressed out.
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A
And also, like, you know, she also, like, loves her husband. And then like, you also never see him. That's also just not.
- [47:39]
B
And he's like, mad all the time because of this, like, stressful failing business that, like, nobody needs him to do.
- [47:45]
A
Like, quite literally, nobody asked for.
- [47:47]
B
And the name of the Coffee shop is Audrey's, and that's her mom's name.
- [47:50]
A
Oh.
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B
But I don't. Did they name it for her mom? Maybe his mom's name's Audrey, too. Like, I don't know. I don't know.
- [47:56]
A
And then the meat of potatoes of the episode was this fight I'd heard a lot about. What I had heard was that, like, you know, Rosie ate her up and. Yeah. Which I do agree with. Like, in terms of the. The argument, like, who won? It's not even a question. Kelsey, like, seriously looked like a loser when she came back in at the end of the fight and was like, and I did win that pageant. It's like, okay, girl, nobody can hear you. Like, big loser energy. And, you know, I've kind of been. I've been turning like, I really am team Rosie.
- [48:20]
B
You're team Rosie.
- [48:22]
A
And I was happy that she won the fight, but I also feel like she shouldn't have started the fight. Like, I. I knew that that fight started when they were doing the hair thing, and I wasn't sure. When I saw Kelsey driving in, I'm like, is this what she's gonna blow up at, or is there something else? Because I actually thought. And I think the worst of Kelsey, like, when she gave that backhanded compliment, I'm like, she didn't mean that. I don't think she's a genuine person. And I actually thought that in that moment, it was, like, a funny way to just sort of end this dumb little saga between them. And she was kind of making fun of herself, like, calling yourself the house police. Like, yeah, you're a loser. You don't even have a house. Like, I actually thought it was a good joke, and all in good fun. I really did. And I was hoping. I was like, oh, please don't let this be the thing that starts a fight, because it would be an overreaction. And it was the thing, and it was an overreaction, and it was an insane fight. Like, yeah, with the bag. Oh, and I'm sorry. Rosie just, like, seriously ate it up when she, like, literally shoved her out of the house. And when Kelsey came back to, like, say something, the door was slammed right in her face. Like, it was. It was brilliantly executed, but I don't think she should have started it.
- [49:16]
B
Oh, I feel differently in the sense that I thought what Kelsey did was annoying with the siren, and I would have been annoyed too. One, like, the loudness. And I don't like a siren. That's just, like, chaotic. And actually, Rosie's chaotic, so I don't think she's coming at it from a place of. I do. Of like. Did you just disturb my piece?
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A
Yeah.
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B
But anyways, that would have bothered me. I didn't think it was, like, a great joke or anything, but I thought Rosie's reaction was so outsized and so trashy and, like, you can say, get out of my house. Get out of my house. Get out of my house. But to, like, push her down the stairs, out the door, calling her these nasty things. And it's like, we get it. She's a sugar baby. Like, she gets money for men. She's never pretended like she's not like. It's just. I thought it was so outsized. It was like a level 100 reaction on something that was like a dispute, you know?
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A
Yeah.
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B
And Rosie was planning on getting in on the joke again about the house because she had the tape measure and shit out.
- [50:08]
A
That's what I meant.
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B
She was ready to rehash it.
- [50:10]
A
So when I saw her driving up, I was like, this can't be the thing that starts to fight because she also has her own little jab. It was perfect. And they should have just ended it and, like, started off on a fresh. And now, obviously we're, like, so never coming back from this.
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B
But
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A
I couldn't believe that, like, that's
- [50:27]
B
what set her off and the way that Rosie behaved. So I understand why she was mad and wanted to be in a fight and get this girl out of her house, because I actually understand that because I didn't like, the siren and everything, so.
- [50:37]
A
And then this person's in your house.
- [50:39]
B
But the way that she handled herself, for me, I felt like I was watching a psychopath.
- [50:44]
A
Yeah.
- [50:44]
B
Like, I felt like that was psychopathic.
- [50:46]
A
I liked it.
- [50:47]
B
And so outsized to, like, just trying to get someone out of your house when, like, yeah, they've offended you in your home. Good day, sir.
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A
Respectful.
- [50:55]
B
But like, that, it got, like, physical and just so nasty. And I don't know what Slam Pig is, but, like, it would just.
- [51:01]
A
You talk about it on what happens live. It's like a road. First of all, it sounds like a slur. It's like a road island.
- [51:06]
B
People are like, oh, my gosh. Slam Pig. Like, best sound bite ever.
- [51:09]
A
You know, people are eating.
- [51:11]
B
Yeah, I saw, too. Like, oh, and she really. She told her, I don't know. It just. It.
- [51:16]
A
I wish the cry, the punishment fit the crime.
- [51:18]
B
I agree.
- [51:19]
A
Because then I could be, like, excited with everyone, but, like, I actually, funnily enough, Thought it was all in earnest. And I think that, like, if Rosie had just taken it like a champ, that it would have been the perfect way to end this pretty moronic fight. Now it's like, a big thing, but it wasn't.
- [51:36]
B
Yeah. And then I guess next week, it
- [51:37]
A
reminded me of Kenya Moore, hair care. Do you remember when I forget who. Oh, maybe it was Marlo. Had a launch for her hair care brand. But, like, Kenya, it was so evil. What Kenya did, she, like, brought a marching band.
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B
I don't think Elsie did. Was evil. I just. I. I wouldn't find it funny, personally, and I find it annoying. I would find it annoying, and I would say as much, but, like, I wouldn't get into a physical altercation and, like, use all my curse words.
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A
Yeah.
- [52:01]
B
In this moment, I. I have to
- [52:03]
A
imagine, just, like, being devil's advocate, that, like, she was, like. I feel like how everyone treated her at the mansion more so required this level of, like, self defense. And so maybe it was just really bubbled up and, like, she's just sort of been piled on a little bit. And so, like, it was like an explosion. It wasn't about this in particular, but I do wish she was, like, a little bit more measured because it really. This wasn't that big of a deal.
- [52:24]
B
Yeah. Next week, they all are at a bar or something, and Rosie comes in wearing a sash that says Kelsey does. Kelsey does.
- [52:31]
A
Yeah, because Kelsey's the pageant queen.
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B
No, I thought Rosie came in wearing a sash that says slam pig.
- [52:36]
A
No, I'm pretty sure it's Kelsey or something.
- [52:39]
B
Please find out. I thought it was Rosie, and I was like, that's so mean. No. Okay, we. I need to know right now.
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A
Sash. Hold on.
- [52:49]
B
I. You know what? I could pull it up on my peacock. The trailer?
- [52:56]
A
Yeah. I'm almost 100% sure it was Kelsey. Like, her way of giving it a little bit back.
- [53:02]
B
Hold on. I have the. The show on my iPad.
- [53:05]
A
Perfect.
- [53:06]
B
Here.
- [53:07]
A
Oh, no.
- [53:07]
B
This is not the episode.
- [53:12]
A
It's like, at the very, very end. It's like the.
- [53:14]
B
Yeah. Yes, exactly. Hold on. Wait. I have to go.
- [53:17]
A
That'd be really crazy if it was Rosie. I don't think it is.
- [53:20]
B
Do you agree it would be so crazy.
- [53:21]
A
Of course. I don't even think that it could be.
- [53:24]
B
Okay, I think that it is. But wait. But wait. Let's watch the trailer.
- [53:32]
A
Okay.
- [53:33]
B
Here they're fighting.
- [53:37]
A
It was really crazy. Like, it's funny.
- [53:39]
B
They all look so much alike. We don't know who it is.
- [53:41]
A
Okay. Kelsey. Yeah.
- [53:47]
B
Wait oh, okay.
- [53:49]
A
Yeah.
- [53:49]
B
Oh, thank God.
- [53:50]
A
Yeah, it's Kelsey. Which is, like, a good way to, like.
- [53:53]
B
Because if someone came in, if. If it was Rosie, I would say that was, like, the nasty.
- [53:57]
A
Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
- [53:59]
B
That changes things better.
- [54:01]
A
So I guess that's now in our rotation on Sundays. I'm gonna keep up with it now I'm fully caught up. Hopefully I'll be done with Papa's Bell Burden. And now the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills is over. Is anything on on Thursdays? Because that's what she.
- [54:12]
B
I don't know. But the other thing I want to talk about is Alicia driving.
- [54:16]
A
You mean your autobiography, Even though you
- [54:17]
B
never ran over a woman when she was like, that bridge is scary. Like, yeah, bridges are scary. I thought that was so funny. I know People, like, love her because she's, like, just, like, silly and crackers. And I think she's very Rhode Island. Like, she's the embodiment of the culture.
- [54:31]
A
Typical Rhode Island.
- [54:32]
B
Yeah. And, like, not everything is for me, but actually, she does make me chuckle.
- [54:36]
A
She does make me chuckle too. Although I think a lot of her stick is annoying. Like, the doll thing.
- [54:40]
B
Well, that's not what I'm talking about.
- [54:42]
A
The car thing is funny. And, like, her. Her home life is very interesting. Like, it makes for good tv.
- [54:48]
B
It's crazy that, like, she has a car seat in the back of her car.
- [54:50]
A
I know. And she's not, like, married or on the deed of her house.
- [54:53]
B
No, but, like, that she has a child that's young enough to be in a car seat.
- [54:55]
A
Crazy.
- [54:56]
B
I, like, just don't. So, like, I. I think of Ashley as, like, young mom.
- [54:59]
A
Yeah. Right.
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B
You know.
- [55:00]
A
Right, right, right, right, right, right.
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B
But, like, she has a car seat child as well, and she can't drive her to dance.
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A
Oh, and then the proof with Ruler's husband Joelle, and found the proof.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And then Alicia's in her house. Like, that actually was really weird. Oh, and then he's such a dumbass. Like, oh, I have to go to the bathroom. Sorry, guys. Work call.
- [55:15]
B
Wait. But also, everything he was saying at that dinner was worse than the next thing when he said that he literally, like, drugged her into dating him.
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A
Oh. And that he's like, a surgeon and he can't eat steak because of the smell of blood. Like, that was just.
- [55:27]
B
Everything he was saying was so crazy. And he's the freaky. I take Ozempic and then I lose muscle, so I take a steroid.
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A
Testosterone. Yeah.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Freak. Seriously, he was being crazy. He should have his Medical license revoked just from that scene alone.
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B
No. It was so crazy. And then saying that he was like, like over, you know, doubling her drinks when we met.
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A
Free. Like, seriously, like, actually one of the
- [55:51]
B
craziest house husbands we've ever met. Yes.
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A
Yes.
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B
And I'm barely paying attention to him, and it's. Everything I hear is worse than the next.
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A
And I know every time he films, he's like, okay, I'm gonna just, like, fix what I did last week. And he always makes it worse. I actually cannot wait for, like, the
- [56:04]
B
Brian whatever's like, happening in real time for us to, like, understand.
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A
Yeah. Yeah. So that is our show. Tomorrow's our last show of the week. It'll be great. And thanks so much for listening to the toast on Monday morning show. We deal the fast five stories. You need to know your Monday through Friday on YouTube. So watching us on YouTube, please self thumbs up. We're also podcast. Every time I do the outro, I like think about all the funny things
- [56:23]
B
we said during the episode. What's making you laugh right now?
- [56:25]
A
Like, Brian, Brian, wherever you listen to podcast, Fast star, Vo sounding and weekly town to be r. Hope you guys have an amazing day and we'll see you tomorrow.
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B
Love you. Bye.