The Cheese Stands Alone: Tuesday, January 27th, 2026

Summary

The Toast – “The Cheese Stands Alone”

Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry
Date: January 27, 2026
Podcast: The Toast (Dear Media)

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Toast is a vibrant, fast-moving chat between hosts Jackie and Claudia as they kick off a Tuesday with pop culture catch-ups, reality TV recaps, and their signature playful banter. They touch on streaming habits, current scandals in the celebrity world, reality show retrospectives, fashion revelations, and their advice segment, all with quick wit and a sense of camaraderie. The recurring theme is about being true to oneself—standing alone (like the cheese!), handling online drama, and dressing for your own joy.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Tuesday Blues and Errand-Running Mishaps

• Tone: Relatable, self-deprecating
• Koji laments the “depressing” nature of a Tuesday, admitting to feeling low-energy after not running morning errands.
• A short tangent about nostalgic children’s jingles and the importance of pre-Toaster errands leads to a running joke about having “nothing to give” if not properly prepped.
  • “[00:45] I have really nothing to give today since I ran no errands...”

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2. Streaming Habits, Peacock, and TV Chatter

• Tone: Candid, frugal, TV-obsessed
• The hosts riff on the sometimes temporary nature of certain streaming services, especially Peacock, which they only subscribe to for special events (Olympics, Love Island, etc.).
  • “[03:18] There’s just something about Peacock… it’s so temporary to me. I can’t explain it.”
• Upcoming Winter Olympics streaming, Johnny Weir, and possible crossover with current Peacock shows.
• Discussion of current TV obsessions:
  • Real Housewives of Beverly Hills: Koji’s return after forgetting how good last season was, praising Garcelle, and curiosity about the “new girl.”
  • Traders & Love Island: Subscriptions managed based on release calendar.
• Witty financial pride over subscription management.
• Memorable Segment: Playful debate over sharing streaming passwords and who’s truly being “fiscally responsible.”

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3. The Olympics Chatter & TV Crossovers

• Tone: Playful, speculative
• They realize they haven't hyped up the 2026 Winter Olympics enough and joke about Olympians joining “Traders.”
  • "[05:15] Get Katie Ledecky on there. Okay."
  • "[05:28] …they cast Colton. So, like, they don’t care about people with, like, kind of sketchy pasts. Ryan Lochte, he’s ripe for Traders."
• Deep-dive into Ryan Lochte’s controversial Olympic past, his rivalry with Michael Phelps, and side commentary on pop culture (e.g., comparing Michael Phelps’ man bun era to Justin Baldoni).
• Koji vents about not having her “calls” hyped up by Jackson, sparking a running inside-joke about supporting each other’s wild takes.

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4. Cheese in the Purse: “The Cheese Stands Alone”

• Tone: Silly, slice-of-life
• The episode’s namesake moment: Koji’s adventure with accidentally carrying cheese in her purse all day, sparking a riff on being “cheap” vs. “convenient.”
  • "[09:30] Did you put pull out that cheese on the show? Yeah, yeah."
• Debate over the value of running back for $6 worth of cheese, and how these small moments make for great “purse cheese content.”
• Quick aside about needing a tiny fridge for on-the-go snacks.

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5. Fashion, Mall Trips, and Koji’s “Fancy Pants”

• Tone: Playful, body-positive
• Koji confesses to minimal outfit rotation and the urgent need for new underwear, prompting gratitude that nobody in the audience comments on it.
  • "[13:41] …I want to appreciate everybody, like, not commenting on the fact that there’s like four shirts in rotation..."
• Proud announcement of new “Guizio” (Danielle Guizio) pants—“cashmere, no less.”
  • "[13:34] I’m wearing cashmere pants from Guizio."
• Plans are made for an intentional, full-out mall day.
• Banter about “hundred thousand dollar hair”—if your hair looks good, do you even need an outfit?

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6. “Fast Five” Pop Culture Stories & Hot Takes

A. Taylor Swift, Blake Lively, and Justin Baldoni’s Legal Drama

• Timestamps: [18:29] – [29:34]
• Key Points:
  • Taylor Swift allegedly “fuming” after private texts with Blake Lively are released in court; the hosts empathize with her feeling “exposed and violated.”
    • "[19:23] …Having her text out there made her feel exposed and violated. Like something private suddenly wasn’t hers anymore."
  • Legal context breakdown: Blake is suing Justin, his countersuits have been tossed.
  • Discussion of court evidence backfiring in the court of public opinion.
  • Parallels drawn to the infamous Sony email hack and how company/country drama plays out in the media.
  • Observations on problematic on-set behavior and how both Blake and Justin Baldoni faced heat over “sensitive” content in their film.

B. Tyra Banks & America’s Next Top Model "Reality Check" Doc

• Timestamps: [29:53] – [36:41]
• Key Points:
  • Trailer for the new doc drops, Tyra admits “she went too far”—the hosts analyze her savvy move of “saying it before anyone else can.”
    • "[30:20] This is just sheer brilliance on Tyra’s part. It’s giving Fat Amy. She’s saying it before anyone else can...”
  • Discusses other problematic reality TV (e.g., The Swan, Bridal Plasti) and how shocking the old formats appear in hindsight.
  • Notable moments recalling reality shows offering plastic surgery as prizes and their cultural fallout.

C. Kim Kardashian’s Netflix Movie & Nikki Glaser Cameos

• Timestamps: [36:57] – [39:44]
• Key Points:
  • First look at Kim’s Netflix film “The Fifth Wheel,” directed by Eva Longoria, starring Nikki Glaser, Brenda Song, Fortune Feimster.
  • Hosts are skeptical about Kim-in-comedy, but hopeful for the ensemble.
  • Side discussion: Nikki Glaser’s history as a Taylor Swift “superfan” and her “Miss Americana” documentary moment, and how it haunted her.
    • "[38:59] …hearing her voice in a documentary she was, like, so excited to watch and how it was, like, quite literally the worst moment of her life.”

D. Beckham Family United Post-Brooklyn Outburst

• Timestamps: [39:49] – [43:34]
• Key Points:
  • Victoria Beckham gets a major French government honor; entire family (incl. partners) comes for support.
  • David Beckham’s poised public response to family drama praised for maturity:
    • "[40:12] …'kids make mistakes and they have to, like, sort of come to those realizations on their own. But, like, we love him.' It was like, such a good response."
  • Discussion of how the family has always included partners and gives “strength in numbers.”

E. Sydney Sweeney Launches Lingerie Brand “Cern”

• Timestamps: [46:33] – [51:46]
• Key Points:
  • Sydney Sweeney teases her lingerie line “cern,” with viral guerrilla marketing at the Hollywood sign.
  • Debate over the name (“Sin” would be better!) and whether the “arrest outrage” was just staged marketing.
  • Sweeney’s brand saturation discussed; hosts weigh in if she’s overexposed but admit launching a personal brand is smart.
    • "[49:36] …now it’s her own brand.”
    • "[50:21] So this feels like a move for career longevity..."

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7. Dear Toasters: Advice Segment

• Timestamps: [51:49] – [63:21]
• Tone: Empathetic, humorous, direct
• Highlights:
  • Babysitter worried about family’s body talk: Good intentions, consider the source (the 8-year-old), but keep an eye on negative patterns.
  • Husband won’t brush teeth at night: Hilarious, practical solutions (get another toothbrush, gently nudge, or, as Claudia details, bully for years). Classic:
    • "[55:20] Would it be crazy of me to call the dentist before his next appointment and rat him?"
  • Therapist with ‘OF Content’ photo albums: Hosts determine it could mean many things (not necessarily OnlyFans), but if it’s really that, move on.
    • "[62:14] …I don’t think you can be a therapist and an OnlyFans content creator."

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Streaming FOMO:

  “There’s just something about Peacock… it’s so temporary to me.”
  — Koji, [03:18]

• On Legal Drama & Privacy:

  “Having her text out there made her feel exposed and violated. Like something private suddenly wasn’t hers anymore. That doesn’t sit well with her.”
  — Jackson Claude, [19:11]

• On Tyra Bank’s Redemption Arc:

  “Tyra spearheading the documentary so she can’t really be cancelled is an act of, like, serious ingenuity. It’s brilliant.”
  — Koji, [30:20]

• On Fashion and Mall Outings:

  “I’m wearing cashmere pants from Guizio.”
  — Koji, [13:34]

• On The Cheese Anecdote:

  “Look at the content we got out of the cheese.”
  — Koji, [09:59]

• On Relationship Support:

  “It’s not even that I believe in your calls. It’s that I believe in you.”
  — Koji, [07:23]

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Additional Fun Timestamps

• [09:30] — Koji's purse cheese confession.
• [19:23] — Sympathy for Taylor Swift’s text leak.
• [31:45] — “We were all rooting for you” and Top Model retrospectives.
• [42:11] — Beckham family’s “strength in numbers.”
• [49:36] — Sydney Sweeney's branding blitz.
• [58:46] — Tooth brushing: morning vs night?

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Episode Vibe & Flow

The episode is quintessential “Toast”—fun, conversational, occasionally erratic but always centered on current pop culture and shared daily frustrations. The interplay between Jackie and Claudia is lightheartedly competitive, with running inside-jokes about “calls,” supportive friendship, and tributes to their loyal audience. Even the smallest mishaps (like purse cheese or outfit repetition) become springboards for comedic reflection and gentle self-acceptance.

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Perfect For: Anyone who likes their celebrity tea mixed with humor, a dose of real-life girl chat, and a peek behind the chaotic curtain of influencer-adjacent life. Even if you haven’t seen the shows referenced or kept up with the latest scandals, Jackie & Claudia’s mix of summary, snark, and sisterhood makes this episode a breezy ride through Tuesday’s pop culture essentials.

Transcript

[Koji]

Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast.

[Jackson Claude]

It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host.

[Koji]

It's your favorite show, the best five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the Toast.

[Jackson Claude]

They sound amazing.

[Koji]

Welcome back to the Toast and happy Tuesday. Tuesday. Oh, my God. Okay, that's depressing.

[Jackson Claude]

Yesterday was a long one.

[Koji]

I guess it's Tuesday. So sorry to be the bearer of bad news. Here to lift everyone up in spirit and in warmth and love.

[Jackson Claude]

I love your warmth and love, Koji.

[Koji]

You better. It's so warm and loving.

[Jackson Claude]

I love your warmth, Koji.

[Koji]

I just feel like I have really nothing to give today since I ran no errands before the toast. And while yesterday morning was incredibly traumatizing, I realize if I ever have errands, I need to do them before the toast because, like, me and my errands were so, so interesting.

[Jackson Claude]

You and your errands.

[Koji]

Getting all errands.

[Jackson Claude]

Getting all errands for toast.

[Koji]

I love that song. What is it? Me and my Teddy getting all ready. Getting all ready for school. What is that from?

[Jackson Claude]

You know, classic tings. Baby tings.

[Koji]

Yeah. Yeah. Not like a film or anything.

[Jackson Claude]

No, I think it's just like a.

[Koji]

Who's Teddy?

[Jackson Claude]

I think it's a jingle. Who isn't Teddy?

[Koji]

Yes. So true. Happy Tuesday, everyone. We've got a great show for you guys. We've got stories, we've got dtq, Peter Toasters, Community. We're running on time this week. Unless, you know, we have a.

[Jackson Claude]

We have a breaking news. Yeah.

[Koji]

Or like, a lot of pre Fast five banner episode runs. Like, no, I'm kidding. We will be doing. And they're actually amazing today.

[Jackson Claude]

Or if I, like, watch a TV show in the middle of this episode and have to do a TV recap.

[Koji]

Speaking of, like, random tv, I, like, did something so crazy last night. Crack crazier.

[Jackson Claude]

Meth. I finally got it crazier. I don't know our sounds because I'm.

[Koji]

Stop, stop. Start it again. I did something crazy last night. Crack crazier.

[Jackson Claude]

Meth.

[Koji]

Crazier. I watched the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, which is the original sound, and I just randomly decided.

[Jackson Claude]

And the day I got it right.

[Koji]

The weird thing about Real Housewives of Beverly Hills is, like, nobody's talking about it, even though it's, Rachel Zoe's. Like, big season. I only watched one episode and I forgot the last season was so good. Like, Sutton v. Dorit. You like lots of.

[Jackson Claude]

I love it. I watched the first two Episodes of this season. A while back, I just have fallen off like, Southern charm. But I'll be back. It was good.

[Koji]

And, like, the Garcelle of it all. I forget. I don't know why no one's talking about it. The season is, like, ripe for goodness. And I haven't met the new girl.

[Jackson Claude]

Yet, but people are talking about the new girl.

[Koji]

Yeah. So I'm excited to be a part of it. Again, I apologize for my delay. You know, I don't pay for subscriptions, like, unless I need them. So, like, my Peacock does lay dormant until the Olympics, which are coming up. And I feel like that's up until recently. Oh, and I needed it for Love island, but I did cancel it after Love island because I am a fiscally responsible person, so I wasn't going to renew for.

[Jackson Claude]

How do you watch Traders?

[Koji]

Well, now I have it because of Traders, which allowed me to watch the Real Housewives in Beverly Hills.

[Jackson Claude]

Cardboard Koji. I just want to say, like, I know some people cancel their subscriptions, like, when they're not using them, but, like, it's your. There's nothing superfluous, like, or extravagant of you paying for Peacock year round. Like, when your job is TV 100%.

[Koji]

There's just something about Peacock. Like, I will never, like, cancel months of Netflix. I will never cancel months of Hulu. I've never canceled Max. Like, something about Peacock, like, it's so temporary to me. I can't explain it. Transient Apple TV Plus. I guess when the new TED lasso came out, I would buy it for that month. I don't need Apple TV plus year round. It's like a fake platform. Peacock is becoming less and less fake. But I'm not at the place yet where I need it year round. Sorry, I'm just not.

[Jackson Claude]

I should just give you my subscription, right?

[Koji]

No. No. And you know what? I feel like we haven't even talked about, which, like, is disgraceful because it is our jobs to remind people, like, when the Olympics are happening. Like, the Olympics are happening so soon. February 2026. That's literally in a week.

[Jackson Claude]

Okay.

[Koji]

And, you know, I live for the Olympics.

[Jackson Claude]

Where are they happening?

[Koji]

Somewhere fabulous.

[Jackson Claude]

Milano.

[Koji]

Yeah, somewhere fabulous.

[Jackson Claude]

I think it's Milano.

[Koji]

And it's winter sports. Like, it's so chic. It's obviously not as exciting as the Summer Olympics, but it's exciting nonetheless. And it was the summer before last that we were watching, you remember, in Paris. I just feel like nobody's talking about this. The Winter Olympics.

[Jackson Claude]

I'll talk about them when it's time.

[Koji]

So I'm glad I have Peacock because they're streaming exclusively on Peacock.

[Jackson Claude]

I just feel like Johnny Weir is going to be all over the Olympics.

[Koji]

That is sort of, like, his time to shine.

[Jackson Claude]

And he's, like, on Peacock right now. He's on.

[Koji]

Right. Imagine if you only had the opportunity to work every four years. Like. Yeah. You would show up and show out. Dazzling. Every four years.

[Jackson Claude]

Just because, like, he's on Traders and maybe Tara. Maybe together they'll have a show.

[Koji]

Oh, by the way.

[Jackson Claude]

Called, like, Secret Best Friends.

[Koji]

No, it would be called Secret Best Friends. That nobody cares about recounting the Olympics. Yeah, no, that's definitely why they were both cast. Because it does feel random to have, like, two figure skaters.

[Jackson Claude]

I guess so.

[Koji]

And you forget about, like, the Peacock Olympics.

[Jackson Claude]

That's good synergy.

[Koji]

Agreed. Agreed. I could get, like, get someone Biles in there. Get one of the gymnastics. Oh, right. Okay. But. Okay, in two years.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. Oh, in two years, we'll have gymnasts on Traders.

[Koji]

Swimmers. Get Katie Ledecky on there. Okay.

[Jackson Claude]

You know who will be on traders? Alona Martin.

[Koji]

1,000%. But she's still an active Olympian.

[Jackson Claude]

Oh, is she?

[Koji]

Yeah, she's, like, the best in her league. You know who is gonna be on Traders and who's perfect for Traders.

[Jackson Claude]

Except.

[Koji]

Except clearly, they cast Colton. So, like, they don't care about people with, like, kind of sketchy pasts. Ryan Lochte, he's ripe for Traders.

[Jackson Claude]

Oh, yeah. For the Summer Traders.

[Koji]

The Ryan Lochte arc is insane. Yeah, he was, like, on his way. It's just. You know what? It's actually not. He just caught Michael Phelps in, like, a bad spell. Because I don't feel like he was even that, like, amazing of a swimmer. No, I think it was like he beat Michael Phelps. Like, he's obviously better than Michael.

[Jackson Claude]

He's like.

[Koji]

Michael Phelps was just, like, doing, you know, inhaling stevia or whatever.

[Jackson Claude]

He said the opposite. Ryan Locke is like Sham and Secretariat. Like, in any other year, Sham would have been the fastest horse on earth. But because he was up against, like, a super horse. That was Ryan Lochte and Michael Phelps, who's the Secretariat.

[Koji]

And then he. Justice Malletted. Right.

[Jackson Claude]

He did something.

[Koji]

He did something like, that smelled of Jesse.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. And was, like, at the Olympics.

[Koji]

Yeah, he said he was, like. He, like, lied about at gunpoint by, like, Brazil. It was in Brazil. Rio Olympics. By, like, Brazilian thugs. And the gas station footage said otherwise.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, yeah. He was, like, covering his arse, and.

[Koji]

Then he had an e Show like, you know, living Loch Day, something like that. He's just an interesting guy.

[Jackson Claude]

Even I didn't watch that.

[Koji]

Yeah, yeah. And he was from Florida. Everybody loves him.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, Gainesville, right?

[Koji]

Go Gators.

[Jackson Claude]

Is he again?

[Koji]

Yeah, he was like a gator.

[Jackson Claude]

Something like, I was in Florida proud back then. So I don't. I don't. I don't remember.

[Koji]

I just feel like his art could be studied because he, like, should be at the level of Michael Phelps, you know? And, you know, Michael Phelps looks like that I feel like we're not talking about enough. He looks like Justin Baldoni. So they both, for, like, a brief period of time, had a man bun.

[Jackson Claude]

Oh.

[Koji]

And they looked exactly alike during the man bun era.

[Jackson Claude]

Okay. Yeah, if that's how you feel.

[Koji]

Okay, miss Trunchbull. Okay.

[Jackson Claude]

That's what miss Honey would say.

[Koji]

Like, I just want to say, like, when you make calls, like, I'm always, like, hyping up your calls.

[Jackson Claude]

You don't hype up my calls. Some of them you do.

[Koji]

I hype up most of your calls because I believe in you. And, like, I believe you.

[Jackson Claude]

You believe in my calls?

[Koji]

Yeah. And it's not even that I believe in your calls. It's that I believe in you.

[Jackson Claude]

Okay, but let me ask you, since.

[Koji]

Recently, actually, that you don't believe in me.

[Jackson Claude]

Okay, but let me ask you something. Say you make a call, and, like, in my heart, I don't see it. What should I say?

[Koji]

So the fact that you are capable of not seeing it means you don't see me. Okay, Like, I see you so wholeheartedly that, like, your calls are brilliant because.

[Jackson Claude]

I see you just making better calls.

[Koji]

Like, what if I. Sweetie, no, you.

[Jackson Claude]

Know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna, like, start making calls. I'm gonna sneak attack you with a bad call that I don't even believe in. Oh, so you're pre and see if meditating and see if you believe it. Blindly believe my call. You're like, maybe because you're saying you blindly believe my calls because they're mine.

[Koji]

Look, I'm just now, like, you didn't like my band, My Katy Perry, Travis, Kelsey comparison. Like, you gave it back to me, told me to workshop it. So it's just two days in a row where you're not seeing or believing in me nor my calls. And I just want to let you know I notice it and I resent it because I see and believe in your calls. And I don't think that your calls are just, like, generally Better.

[Jackson Claude]

Let me tell you my lived experience with you. Oh, great.

[Koji]

Okay.

[Jackson Claude]

You said, do you know who Michael Phelps looks exactly like? And I was waiting for you to like say. And then I was be like, oh my God. Yeah. Like, but when it was just Madonna, I was like, oh, no, I've never thought that. So what do, what do I say?

[Koji]

Just remember I backed you when you said Justin Rose looked like Hannah Brown. Okay. Back in the day, you said that Whitney Rose from Salt Lake City's husband looked like the Bachelorette Hannah Proud. And I had your back, cuz. You know what? I did see it. But that's because I see you. Okay, Just. You don't see me. That's plain and simple.

[Jackson Claude]

Okay, well, I'll. I'll work on my site.

[Koji]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

Get your vision tested and maybe you can hone in on those calls. You, we can work together.

[Koji]

No, I'm more of like a lone wolf. The wolf. The cheese stands alone. Okay. What's that? Oh, you don't know. The cheese stands alone.

[Jackson Claude]

Cheese in your purse. Is it still there?

[Koji]

Oh my God, what a mistake. With that cheese in my purse.

[Jackson Claude]

Did you put pull out that cheese on the show? Yeah, yeah.

[Koji]

You guys saw my cheese yesterday, right? Yeah, well, I had to go back. I forgot to like drop it in the fridge. Then I'm like running these errands with the cheese. And I was. It was still a little cold.

[Jackson Claude]

Literally, like met up with Ben in.

[Koji]

The middle, change the cheese, because Ben was coming here. And there's a fridge here. Okay. That's where like my cheapness, like it was $6 worth of cheese. I got two packs. It was more so not the money, like the convenience of having to go.

[Jackson Claude]

Back your back to get this cheese.

[Koji]

Yeah, but look at the content we got out of the cheese. Like.

[Jackson Claude]

No, I have no issue, but just like the fact that the cheese was in your purse all day.

[Koji]

Not all day, but like until midday.

[Jackson Claude]

You actually needed the cheese of cheese. Yeah, but you had already done the handoff.

[Koji]

I was making a grilled cheese and I was like, well, if only I had the cheese. But if I had still had the cheese, it would have gone sour by then.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. Looks like you need a little refrigerator. Or if only you'd like ice packs from your breast milk.

[Koji]

Yeah. Or if like I just like instacarted the cheese.

[Jackson Claude]

You know, a little travel pack.

[Koji]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

Cheese ice pack.

[Koji]

Yeah. So I started the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills last night. I don't have like any ever present thoughts except that like I just forgot About Bose and how much like, I love her so much.

[Jackson Claude]

Just got engaged.

[Koji]

Okay. And I read a blind which. Please take it.

[Jackson Claude]

I think I saw the same thing.

[Koji]

That she is pregnant by surrogate.

[Jackson Claude]

Well, I read a blind that a housewife is pregnant by surrogate, but it could be anyone in the multitude of states.

[Koji]

It could. I don't know how many housewives are on their like, child rearing journeys. A lot of them, like, we. We come to know them long after that journey is over. Especially ones who would be doing it via surrogate, which we know that that would be Bose's journey. So I just, I believe that it's supposed. And I'm glad her and Keely are still together. Like in the beginning last season it was giving like maybe like, you know, showmance. Like she just like needed a storyline. But no, it's true love.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, it's really cute. How do you feel about Rachel Zo? I know it's early to make a call, but like, are you feeling her presence?

[Koji]

I am. I mean, I thought she was gonna give us nothing. Like, people who are at that level, like very Denise Richards, sometimes they feel like they don't up because they just show up with their name and it's enough. But not her getting into the custody battle and everything. Like, right, right off the. Off the jump. Loved that. So it sounds like she's down to clown, which I love.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Koji]

If you're not gonna get down and like sling mud with the rest of us, get out of here.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, I liked her. I'll go back to watching it. I just did some personal admin last night, you know, had to catch up on the old email.

[Koji]

Oh, okay.

[Jackson Claude]

I get like, you know, catch up on my calls with family and friends.

[Koji]

Oh, yeah, of course.

[Jackson Claude]

So I had to just like set aside time for that.

[Koji]

That's beautiful.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. And it was a Monday, so I was like, I'm not missing anything if I don't watch tv.

[Koji]

Yeah. Tell me Lies is what, Tuesdays?

[Jackson Claude]

I guess.

[Koji]

So like, not everything in my life comes out on Thursday. That like, just doesn't work for my schedule. Like the Pit comes out on Thursday. Traders comes out on Thursdays. It's annoying.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. What else are we. And Tell Me Lies. We're watching.

[Koji]

I believe Tell me Lies comes out on Tuesdays. Yeah. Okay, so what time? Oh, it's already out. Oh, so Monday nights technically, like.

[Jackson Claude]

No, no, we'll watch it tonight.

[Koji]

12Am Monday.

[Jackson Claude]

We'll watch it tonight and we'll recap it tomorrow. What am I doing? Oh, Where? I'm going out tonight.

[Koji]

Let's go tonight. I have to go. You know where I really need to go? I need to go to the mall. Like, and I want to thank everybody for not like, clowning on me in the comments about the fact that I've. And thank God we're sitting behind a desk because I wear the same pair of pants every single day. Actually got new pants today.

[Jackson Claude]

What are those pants?

[Koji]

They're Guizio.

[Jackson Claude]

Danielle.

[Koji]

Do you know her?

[Jackson Claude]

Like, fancy. Yeah, I'm wearing guizo fancy pants.

[Koji]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

Like from Revolve. From Guizio is like Danielle Guizio.

[Koji]

Yeah. Why is it so shocking that I could wear a nice pair of pants?

[Jackson Claude]

I'm just, I'm curious. Like, is Danielle Gizio different than Guizio?

[Koji]

No, no. Guizio is the brand and it's. Yes. Formerly the artist, formerly known as Daniel Guizio.

[Jackson Claude]

Okay.

[Koji]

And I keep singing Pinot Guizio.

[Jackson Claude]

Girls, I just want to say, like, it is. You're wearing fancy pants.

[Koji]

Yeah. I know you think I live in a cardboard box, but I'm actually like an extremely affluent woman.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Koji]

I'm wearing cashmere pants from Guizio.

[Jackson Claude]

I'm sorry, that's like a. A low key sleigh on the Tuesday.

[Koji]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

You guys can't see my pants, but I'm wearing like cream barrel jeans.

[Koji]

Oh, sorry. So I absolutely need to go to a store. Like, I was supposed to be here for two weeks. I don't know when the hell I'm going home. I'm having such a fabulous time. Like, why would I go? The weather's insane. So. Yeah, I need to like, buy a pair of underwear. I'm liter run. Like, I don't have anything. And I want to appreciate everybody, like, not commenting on the fact that there's like four shirts in rotation and I wear each four every week. I try to like, you know, do the Monday shirt on Friday. Like, I try to stretch it out, but it's just, I need to go to like a store.

[Jackson Claude]

So let's plan a mall trip. Like, and we'll plan it not just like run over there. Like, let's, you know, pump, pump. Or maybe strollers. Like, let's.

[Koji]

Okay, let's go.

[Jackson Claude]

You know.

[Koji]

Lfj.

[Jackson Claude]

We can park up at the mall.

[Koji]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

There's a bag I want to see. Oh, I have to see.

[Koji]

There's a gal I want to see.

[Jackson Claude]

I have to see about a bag.

[Koji]

So just thanks everyone for your patience.

[Jackson Claude]

I think you look great. And like, with a hundred thousand dollar.

[Koji]

Hair, you don't need Anything else? Oh, I'm not wearing my headphones today. Oh, do I need them?

[Jackson Claude]

No. Because you have a hundred thousand dollar hair.

[Koji]

I just love hearing you.

[Jackson Claude]

Oh, FA la la la la. And you know what I have?

[Koji]

Who sings that song? Palala, you fucking bitch.

[Jackson Claude]

I was gonna say Hillary Duff.

[Koji]

Oh, that's what you were singing?

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Koji]

Someone. Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

Okay. Wait.

[Koji]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow, she's really good. Oh, good stuff.

[Jackson Claude]

Okay, let's get into the stories. Without further ado to do, here are the fast side stories that you to do. Need to know.

[Koji]

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[Jackson Claude]

Thank you, Turt.

[Koji]

You're welcome.

[Jackson Claude]

Our first story, a little more lively tailored Baldoni. Oh, just new messages not that have been unsealed but that people are so.

[Koji]

Much like release that it's taking people. It's kind of like WikiLeaks.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, then they were finding.

[Koji]

I don't really remember like WikiLeaks but I remember it was like weeks.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, it's Weeks of stuff. So then like, there's more headlines. But also source is saying that Taylor Swift is fuming over the release of her private as she's dragged into Blake Lively's legal drama. So Taylor Swift is reportedly fuming over the release of her private text with Blake since being dragged into actress's legal battle with Justin Baldoni, a source told Us Weekly. So take it with a grain of salt. But like, it doesn't feel like it.

[Koji]

Would be so crazy.

[Jackson Claude]

It's not far fetched. This feels extremely factual. They said it's honestly been really hard for Taylor. Having her text out there made her feel like exposed and violated. Like something private suddenly wasn't hers anymore. That doesn't sit well with her.

[Koji]

Yeah, I felt it when I was reading them. I think everyone did. It feels so crazy that we were reading like the innermost thoughts of Taylor and her number one girl for years. Like it is. I know it's just like a text message, but it's like a stream of consciousness and it is such an invasion of privacy. So I don't know if this Us Weekly story is real or not, but like, duh.

[Jackson Claude]

Especially because these were put forth by Blake and her team to prove something. Because we learned at the end of last week that like Justin actually has no claims in play anymore. His suits have been tossed.

[Koji]

Yeah, his. So Blake is suing him. His countersuit. Because I was confused after last week and I asked Chat to explain it to me like I was a 12 year old. He was countersuing Blake and the New York Times, but a judge tossed his. So it's just Blake suing him now. Like, that is the. The case we are studying and preparing for.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Koji]

And so this is Blake. And what's so crazy is that like Blake's evidence. And I know there's two things going on, like the court and the court of public opinion, but like Blake's documents, which was were supposed to like vindicate her, have somehow made her sit worse. And especially because like I was thinking, I'm like, maybe her and Taylor like are still friends. Like we've never really gotten a confirmation.

[Jackson Claude]

This means.

[Koji]

Yeah, yeah, I was holding out hope.

[Jackson Claude]

No, I really don't think so at all. And then also Justin Baldoni was called a by a studio exec for allegedly alluding to rape in an interview, a press interview for the movie.

[Koji]

Yes. So this also was reminding me of the Sony League. Remember when all those Sony executives like emails were hacked by North Korea or.

[Jackson Claude]

Whatever and they say that's still the craziest thing.

[Koji]

What? They don't know who was.

[Jackson Claude]

Well, they said it was North Korea.

[Koji]

Because of Seth Rogen.

[Jackson Claude]

Because of the movie? Yeah.

[Koji]

Seth Rogen.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. The interview was coming out and North Korea didn't want it to come out, so they leaked Sony's emails. And it just like. That sounds crazy.

[Koji]

It does sound really crazy. Like a company versus a country.

[Jackson Claude]

And it was never confirmed. Confirmed. That was just sort of like, the theory.

[Koji]

Well, a lot of things came out. A lot of emails between, like, people whose names you wouldn't know, but they're like, very high powered executives.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, confirmed that that's what it was. But if that's what it was, that was crazy.

[Koji]

And what's so crazy is, like, we're.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, holding the movie, like, not Kevin.

[Koji]

Hart, like, becoming the biggest story from that stupid saga when, like, like, he.

[Jackson Claude]

Wouldn'T post his own movies without getting paid extra for social promotion.

[Koji]

And you know what? Like, I kind of feel that he's a businessman. Yeah. Like, but that was the big headline, and it wasn't even, like, that. He wasn't even a part of the interview.

[Jackson Claude]

And then they, like, still put out the movie as, like, an act of defiance. And, like, if you went to see it, like, you were, like, scared. No, like, it was like an act of defiance.

[Koji]

It was a revolution.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. You were a revolutionary.

[Koji]

I can't remember if I saw the movie. I think I did.

[Jackson Claude]

You definitely did.

[Koji]

I don't feel like it was, like, that good. I get it confused with Aladdin. Oh, what's that movie?

[Jackson Claude]

The Dictator.

[Koji]

Yeah, the interview versus the Dictator. And they're both about, like, North Korean, like, figures in countries, right? Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Koji]

And who played Kim Jong? It wasn't Seth, was it?

[Jackson Claude]

No. Are you crazy?

[Koji]

What is this movie? Like, I don't even remember it.

[Jackson Claude]

James Franco and they go to North Korea to interview Kim Jong Un, played by Randall Park.

[Koji]

Okay, I don't even remember, like, the film. I just remember the drama.

[Jackson Claude]

And I think also they, like, got an inner. They're like two, like, bozos who get an interview and then they have to, like, go undercover.

[Koji]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

Do something. I don't know.

[Koji]

Got it. Okay, well, these. I find the emails from all the executives to be, like, so interesting because obviously.

[Jackson Claude]

Oh, so what they said about Justin.

[Koji]

Baldoni, he was apparently doing press and, like, being hella inappropriate. So much so that the executives at Sony were like, we need to have a call with Justin and his PR team because he was, like, basically saying.

[Jackson Claude]

He said, Justin is basically alluding to raping Atlas out of Lily when talking to the Dallas Morning News. We cut the tape, but he is a moron. He shouldn't do any more press, but he has a lot left, so maybe we can talk asap.

[Koji]

That's just interesting because, like, Blake has been the one largely accused of, like, not being sensitive to the. The film's issues when it seems like everyone was struggling. It is a sensitive film. But you know what? I was rewatching our episode from Friday, and we were talking. I was saying how, like, you know, this kind of was like a lose, lose situation because it's, like, such a sensitive topic. But it's like movies about sensitive topics get made. They're like a million Holocaust movies. Like, they're movies about slavery. Like, there are. Is like, people don't struggle this much.

[Jackson Claude]

This isn't the most sensitive. No.

[Koji]

Yeah. I take it back. And obviously it covers sensitive issues, but, like, sensitive issues get covered in films all the time.

[Jackson Claude]

No. And like, every movie is about some sort of, like, serious movies.

[Koji]

Right? Serious covered, like real life historical events, like, of terrible things.

[Jackson Claude]

I can't think of a movie nowadays.

[Koji]

That doesn't cover a series unless it's.

[Jackson Claude]

A joke of a movie.

[Koji]

The interview.

[Jackson Claude]

That's a serious issue. Yeah.

[Koji]

No, I take it back.

[Jackson Claude]

I just want to say no, this movie isn't any more sensitive than anything than anything else.

[Koji]

Yeah, agreed. It's not like. Yeah, it's not special.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Koji]

It's just everybody, like, working there was, like, not okay.

[Jackson Claude]

I would say the only maybe challenge they faced is the sensitive nature of the movie is a bit of a spoiler. So you. How do you market?

[Koji]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

Without. Also, you need trigger warnings nowadays.

[Koji]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

So that's a little dicey. But again, they can't be the first people to have to.

[Koji]

No, agree. Agreed.

[Jackson Claude]

Just like the book itself was marketed, you know.

[Koji]

Correct. But the book itself was not marketed as a story about domestic violence. No, I had no idea when I read it.

[Jackson Claude]

When you read Colleen Hoover. I don't know. I. I feel like they're just not giving audiences, like, enough credit like that. You could pick up a book and maybe it's not like what you thought it was. And that's okay.

[Koji]

Yeah, of course.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Koji]

No trigger warning. Don't get me started on trigger warning.

[Jackson Claude]

Culture rating is for.

[Koji]

Yes.

[Jackson Claude]

To keep audiences out who aren't prepared to see it.

[Koji]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

So more emails, more drama.

[Koji]

It will continue.

[Jackson Claude]

It's gonna get worse before it gets better.

[Koji]

And a wintour got thrown in there. Jamila Jamil got thrown in There. And then Jamila Jamil made this, like, turn video, like, defending herself. Do we talk about Jamila Jamil's, like, response?

[Jackson Claude]

Not the response we talked about, like, the. The citation of Jamila McJamiel, but not Anna Wintour. She was saying.

[Koji]

She said to Blake, I saw the movie. It was amazing. Like, so sorry. It was such a terrible experience. It seemed like Blake would have told everyone who was.

[Jackson Claude]

Who would listen about her terrible experience was inspired.

[Koji]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

This rooftop scene, I literally said to.

[Koji]

Jackie the other day, I'm like, I don't want to sound dumb, because I saw the movie and read the book. What scene? And then Jackie was like, it's when they meet. Oh, yeah. So, like, the first scene of the.

[Jackson Claude]

Movie when Ryle and Lily meet on the rooftop of. That's how they meet each other for the first time.

[Koji]

It's the first scene in the book. Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

And she rewrote it. That was, like, something that came out, like, years ago that, like, that was really contentious. It was her stab at, like, rewriting. Like, Ryan manipulated it and, like, this rooftop scene.

[Koji]

Yeah. Okay. Like, I don't even know.

[Jackson Claude]

I actually need to go watch the movie.

[Koji]

Have you never seen it?

[Jackson Claude]

No.

[Koji]

Oh, I'll watch it with you because now I need to, like, study it. And, like, the rooftop scene. I. I didn't.

[Jackson Claude]

And, like, I need to see the brilliance of the rooftop scene.

[Koji]

Yeah. I feel like it's so crazy that in all of this, there's no, like, emails or anything talking about the wardrobe and the hair, which was such a topic of conversation. This movie was scandalous before the big.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Koji]

When we saw those pictures. The thing is, I saw the movie, and it was really crazy that she dressed like that. It wasn't enough to distract. I actually happened to have really liked the movie. But why was she wearing and doing all that?

[Jackson Claude]

I don't know. And I feel like that's on him because he, like, directed and produced the movie. So, like, he got the wardrobe.

[Koji]

But, you know, she's, like, so wardrobe girl. She's like. No. Is known for, like, styling herself. I could see her, like, bringing her clothes and wigs from home.

[Jackson Claude]

It's crazy that no one's, like, mudslinging about that.

[Koji]

That's what I'm saying. Like, that was such a thing before the movie. I imagine, like, the PR department for Sony was kind of, like, freaking out when those pictures came out because it was so negative. Like, where are the emails about that? Because that was so funny.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Koji]

Like, it was crazy.

[Jackson Claude]

Who's doing Is that everyone wants, like, credit and they also want to, like, voice blame on the shitty parts of the movie.

[Koji]

Like, the shittiest part was the costume.

[Jackson Claude]

That and not the person, like, who actually the costum assumed they're just doing what they're set told to do. But, like, whose vision was this?

[Koji]

Yeah, I just want to quickly return to Jamila Jamil's response video because I, I just feel like it needs to be mentioned how strange it was. So it was like the day after her involvement was leaked and she said that, like, sorry, she took so much anti anxiety medication the day before because, you know, Internet. So she wasn't able to respond. And it was just a weird video. I don't really, like, know or care what she said. But, like, like her nipple, like, almost slipped out. Like, her boobs are like, so it was, I couldn't tell if it was, like, intentional or not, like, how much cleavage she had. And I'm not one to even notice stuff like that. I know. Can I show you?

[Jackson Claude]

Sure.

[Koji]

It was just like, really cleavagey. And I don't even like, use the word cleavage ever. It was just like, what? It was booby.

[Jackson Claude]

It was giving booby, letting you finish what you had to say. But you didn't know what I was said. And then you said her nipple. What?

[Koji]

Here? What?

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, okay, I'll stay tuned.

[Koji]

Okay, look. Is that just, like, a lot of breast?

[Jackson Claude]

Oh, that's not what I thought it was gonna be like. I feel like you hyped up the amount of breast.

[Koji]

Do you think it's an appropriate amount of breast, or am I being, like, weird?

[Jackson Claude]

I, I, I'll never know. Because don't you feel like it's just.

[Koji]

Like, a lot of cleavage for, like, a statement?

[Jackson Claude]

I don't know how much cleavage she usually puts in her videos, you know, I don't know.

[Koji]

And it feels like she's, like, arching her back. Looks like she's showing more cleavage now.

[Jackson Claude]

I, I, honestly, I, I can't.

[Koji]

Is that a bad call?

[Jackson Claude]

I can't have my own opinion about it because it's already been muddied by yours.

[Koji]

Okay, sorry about that.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, if you showed me the video and then said, what do you see here? Maybe I could have come to my own conclusion.

[Koji]

There is a report in the Daily Mail that said Blake insisted on $600,000 worth of wardrobe for her character. I have to imagine that a lot of the wardrobe was Blake's doing. I just want to say, just because.

[Jackson Claude]

She'S so fashiony of Taylor and Blake.

[Koji]

In A big pencil skirt, like, striped. Yeah. And she is known for being, for better and for worse, her own stylist.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. And I feel like when she goes on to projects, like, that's part of Blake beat, like, hiring. Yeah.

[Koji]

I mean, think about, like, how much criticism she got for the press tour and her outfits. Right. Remember all the flowers?

[Jackson Claude]

Gorgeous.

[Koji]

Yeah, they really were. And it was supposed to be a, like, lily coated. Right. So if it was lily coded, why wouldn't she have done that in the film?

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Koji]

Can Somebody search the WikiLeak email and find out who was responsible for these heinous outfits and. And hair choices?

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. And. Or did everyone feel really good about them? Like, did Blake like them?

[Koji]

Oh, yeah, Maybe. Like, they all agreed and, like, it was just their. Their collective blind spot.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. I don't know.

[Koji]

You're bringing out such pargy products. Can I get that one too?

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, of course. I just feel like. I don't know why. Sometimes it feels like I'm not wearing enough makeup.

[Koji]

I know.

[Jackson Claude]

You're so. I need more lipstick.

[Koji]

That's. That's not a good call, Jack.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. I can leave them. Oh, I like that call of yours.

[Koji]

Thanks.

[Jackson Claude]

Let's get into the next story. Tyra Banks has premiered or announced new America's Next Top Model documentary. Trailer just drops, and she admits she went too far. So Tyra, who hosted the competition reality series for its first 22 seasons, is among those speaking out about the show in a new documentary called Reality Check Check Inside America's Next Top Model, which hits Netflix on February 16. She said, I haven't really said much, but now it's time. Okay.

[Koji]

This is just sheer brilliance on Tyra's part. It's giving Fat Amy. She's saying it before anyone else can because there was a time, and I'm surprised at the time, like, when they were doing the Abercrombie documentary where they were going back to, like, early 2000s culture and just, like, saying how it was all bad and, like, canceling, you know, inside the Real Abercrombie. And I'm surprised that there wasn't one about America's Next Top Model because so many clips resurfaced now, and it was like, seriously not okay what they were doing to those girls. So Tyra spearheading the documentary so she can't really be canceled is an act of, like, serious ingenuity. It's brilliant.

[Jackson Claude]

I don't think that's what it is. I don't think she could be canceled for America's Next Top Model. Because it's like, we all watched it. Did they said in the documentary, like, 100 million viewers. Like, if what she was doing, like.

[Koji]

Obviously now, why the Biggest Loser. Like, that was the most recent documentary, had hundreds of millions of viewers. And, like, in hindsight, but no one's.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, getting canceled for it because it was like, everyone was.

[Koji]

I don't know, the. Like, in the biggest Lizard documentary, they were, like, pointing fingers at everyone.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, who? Bob and Jillian?

[Koji]

Well, Bob was a part of the documentary, which was smart. Jillian was not. So of course she, like, looked like the villain. You know, the network execs, like, they're always pointing fingers.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. I just feel like so being a.

[Koji]

Part of it makes it seem like you're safe. When I saw Bob Harper, I was like, oh, okay, so he's good, you know.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. I don't know. I just feel like everybody watched the show. Nobody had issues with it at the time. And so it's like, yeah, now we can all, like, look back. But, like, then to say, say, like, to Yellow Tyra for something from 20 years ago.

[Koji]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

When at the time, everyone was eating it up.

[Koji]

No, but that is what happens these days. Like, yeah. So I could have seen a world in which, like, the documentary came out and, like, Tyra was the devil because she wasn't just a host of the show. She was like, like a create. She was deep in the production. So it wasn't like this was just a job she signed up for. She was at the helm of it.

[Jackson Claude]

I'm excited to watch it because, yeah, there are clips that go viral, but I haven't seen any. Like, of course we see, like, we were all rooting for you. Some of, like, the, like, like, mean things that are, like, said to the girls.

[Koji]

The makeover is very culturally inappropriate. Culturally insensitive.

[Jackson Claude]

In this documentary trailer, they show some of the, like, the crazier things which I either forgot or never saw, which was like, they did a. A shoot where that people had to change their ethnicities.

[Koji]

Yes, of course. Oh, that. That one. That clip goes all over Tik Tok, like, once a year. It's so, like, crazy.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. Another one where they were doing the makeovers and they, like, did some girls teeth.

[Koji]

Ooh.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. They did, like, cosmetic surgery during the makeover.

[Koji]

Yikes.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. So I will be reminded or, like, learn for the first time of some of the crazier things that happen because to me, I'm just like, oh, yeah, it was cutthroat. Like, girls were called fat. Like, they cut off someone's hair and then sent her home the next day.

[Koji]

Yeah, there are. I think we'll have a moment of reflection and realization when the documentary comes out because we don't think about it on the same level, but it just reminded me it feels a little bit akin to Bridal Plasti. Do you remember that show not well on E. Where it was a bunch of girls who were engaged in a reality competition series where they lived in a house. They did all these like bridal challenges, like who can make the best bouquet or whatever. And the winners would get the plastic surgery of their dreams for their wedding. So like, if you won the challenge, you could get a nose job. And then you were like exempt from the next challenge while you recovered. It is the girls forgetting like bbls. Like, it is the most insane concept for a show. And the fact that that ever made air. Like, where's the documentary on bridal Plasti? Because. And we were all watching it, like, not even thinking it was that crazy.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Koji]

No wonder, like girls our age are so fucked up. Like, why were we. I was watching that in high school.

[Jackson Claude]

There was also that show like the Ugly Duckling or like the Swan. What was that?

[Koji]

What was the concept of the show? I need to look that up.

[Jackson Claude]

I think that was the craziest one, but I don't remember.

[Koji]

Yeah, reality.

[Jackson Claude]

It was like a bunch of what.

[Koji]

They consider the swan. It had two seasons. It's an American reality show put on by Fox. Bugs Garner negative reception from critics and audiences at the time because the series often focused on the promotion of negative body image for women. Okay. The premise was each episode of the series followed two self proclaimed ugly ducklings who over the course of the three month period experienced an extreme makeover from a team that included a personal trainer, a therapist, of course, dentists, cosmetic surgeons. Whichever woman was deemed more attractive at the end of the three months months would move forward to compete in a beauty pageant held at the end of the season. Following the pageant, whichever contestant received the most votes for the greatest transformation was given the title of the Swan.

[Jackson Claude]

That's insane.

[Koji]

Really bad.

[Jackson Claude]

That's insane.

[Koji]

Okay, wait, hold on. There was a. There was a scandal in season one right out of the contestant named Tanya Slovich. She dropped out of the show on her own accord after being caught with a mirror, which was against the rules of the series. Chills.

[Jackson Claude]

So another.

[Koji]

Contestant became the Swan. Oh, she was about to win Tanya. But she lost because she was caught with a mirror. So Marlene Norman won the swan pageant. Other contestants claim the Reason for her dismissal was due to her requiring hospitalization and that the mirror thing was a cover up up. That's what other contestants have said.

[Jackson Claude]

Oh, my God, this is so crazy. That needs a documentary that makes America's Next Top Model look like child's play.

[Koji]

The winner was awarded a contract as a spokesperson for various sponsors and premiums by corporate sponsors.

[Jackson Claude]

Crazy time.

[Koji]

The series premiered to 15 million viewers. Like, that's insane. The series received a negative response immediately from TV critics. Entertainment Weekly claimed it was at least people were saying it, a misogynistic mix of TV's twin vices, commercialism and conformity. USA Today said, Yada yada. Yeah, it was widely regarded.

[Jackson Claude]

Well, a lot of things were, you know, premiered to negative opinions.

[Koji]

In 2013, the second season, contestant Lori Arias spoke publicly about problems she attributed to her participation in this one, including unresolved surgery complications and mental health problems that she says were exacerbated by her appearance on the program. And in 2010, Entertainment Weekly ranked the program as the worst reality television show ever produced. And then they. Oh, they did a docu series.

[Jackson Claude]

Oh, they did.

[Koji]

Vice did an episode on it because they advice had a docu series called the Dark side of Reality tv.

[Jackson Claude]

So this, to me, feels like the beginning of a docu, like a series, because it's called Reality Check Inside America's Next Time. Oh, you know, I feel like they could do it for other things, too.

[Koji]

Well, Bridal Plasti next, please. If that show had zero fans, me and my four high school best friends, like, we're dead. Like, we were obsessed.

[Jackson Claude]

So this will be good. It premieres Netflix February 16th. Stay tuned.

[Koji]

Honestly, I will. And shout out to Tyra for getting ahead of the curve. I just want to say that's a businesswoman.

[Jackson Claude]

Yes. Speaking of Netflix content, something I was talking about yesterday. Weirdly, that Kim Kardashian Netflix movie First look dropped yesterday.

[Koji]

Nikki Glaser's in it.

[Jackson Claude]

Nikki Glaser, Kim Kardashian, Eva Longoria and Fortune Feamster are the stars of the Fifth Wheel on Netflix. I told you. She's in like Bridesmaids needs.

[Koji]

Okay, who is it again? Now that. Okay, Kim. Nikki Glaser, Eva.

[Jackson Claude]

Oh, no, he's directing it. Sorry. Brenda Song is the third and Fortune Feimster is the fourth. The film is set to follow a group of high school best friends as they attempt to reconnect during a weekend haunt to Vegas.

[Koji]

It's giving Girls Trip like which launched Tiffany Haddish's career. The only thing about this Is that, like, the only one who seems kind of like a funny actress is Fortune Feimster. Like, Nikki Glaser's hysterical stand up. I've never seen her act in anything. Kim is, like, you know, kind of a wild card. Brenda Song is a good actress. Is she funny? Like, how this is not the next Bridesmaids.

[Jackson Claude]

I just want to say so it seems like. So the four, the group of high school friends attempt to reconnect during a weekend in Vegas. Then a hot outsider who's played by Kim crashes their weekend. They're forced to face their messy lives, bad decisions, and unraveling friendships. Are they all the same age, these women?

[Koji]

It's giving me, like, I don't know. I don't want to be negative.

[Jackson Claude]

I don't want to be ageist.

[Koji]

And this is crazy because Nikki Glaser's, like, killer. Swift's number one fan, and here she is cozying up with Kim Kardashian. But a job is a job, and I feel like Taylor understands that.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, plenty.

[Koji]

Also Taylor knowledge.

[Jackson Claude]

Plenty of people in Taylor circle work with Kim. Sabrina being face of skin.

[Koji]

Taylor also, like, won't acknowledge Nikki Glaser because of Miss Americana. Oh, in Miss Americana, Taylor's, like, first documentary, there's, like, a montage of, like, media talking heads saying negative things about Taylor during a specific period in her life. And Nikki Glaser is a part of.

[Jackson Claude]

It, and it haunts her.

[Koji]

It haunts Nikki Glaser, like, and she's definitely made up for it, like, by giving, like, every dollar she ever had to Taylor Swift. But, like, it's just awkward.

[Jackson Claude]

I think Taylo will move on from it.

[Koji]

Nikki Laser talked about it when she was on the toast. If you want to listen to that episode. I mean, like, the experience of, like, hearing her voice in a documentary she was, like, so excited to watch and how it was, like, quite literally the worst moment of her life.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. Yeah. No, I feel like Taylor will forgive her. Yeah, they'll come together.

[Koji]

She calls her, like. She just basically said, like, her and her friends are, like, too skinny. And, like, that's what she says in the clip.

[Jackson Claude]

There's worse things to say.

[Koji]

It's so true.

[Jackson Claude]

That's. Oh, too skinny. Oh, no.

[Koji]

Nikki Laser, please stop telling me that I'm too skinny. It's, like, really toxic of you. Like, I'm just a person.

[Jackson Claude]

So Eva Longoria is directing this movie, and I guess this is the movie that was talked about in that episode of Kardashians as, like. As, like, huge when she Sold it to Netflix.

[Koji]

I'm skeptical. I hate to be so negative.

[Jackson Claude]

I'm skeptical too.

[Koji]

Okay, good.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. But Nikki Glaser and Fortune theme store are really funny. And Brenda Song's a really good actress.

[Koji]

Yes, she is.

[Jackson Claude]

Is. So it's possible.

[Koji]

It is.

[Jackson Claude]

Are you ready for our fourth story? Victoria and David Beckham put on a united front with kids after Brooklyn.

[Koji]

Yes. Everybody showed up. Kids and. And partners.

[Jackson Claude]

After Brooklyn's outburst, Victoria was honored in France and she was photographed walking out of the Hot Couture Spring Summer 2026 show on Monday.

[Koji]

You know, they are handling this, like, extremely well. I don't know. We didn't even talk about how, like, the day after David, like a GMA type of show in the UK and was asked about it and he was just like, you know, kids make mistakes and they have to, like, sort of come to those realizations on their own. But, like, we love him. It was like, such a good response. It didn't even blow up in the way that I barely thought.

[Jackson Claude]

Because he didn't give them anything.

[Koji]

No. And he was. It must have made them so mad, like, because it was very much like, you're being a petulant child and like, we'll be here when you're done in timeout. They are handling this extremely well. I imagine it's been devastating in. Inside the doors of Beckham Castle, but outside they're. They're doing an amazing job. Like, I feel like I see her everywhere in a positive way. Like, her business, him, the family. This is a gorgeous picture. It's like, look, we all get along, so we're clearly not the problem.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. Especially bringing all the partners.

[Koji]

Yeah. Like, it was a choice.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Koji]

Even though, like, they always do this.

[Jackson Claude]

They always do.

[Koji]

It's not like they're being like a fake inclusive family now every there, the clip from, you know, the Beckham premiere Netflix party that's going viral with Nicola, like, and sour being weird and Victoria giving her back to Brooklyn. They have always been inclusive of all the kids, spouses. So this is not fake and performative. It's just like, perfect timing.

[Jackson Claude]

It is perfect timing. Yes. The. The younger boys and their girlfriends. The girlfriends are always there for David's 50th Etc. But she got, like, a really big honor by the French government and I don't know that the girlfriends would have been invited any other time for, like, such a big honor. You know, it's kind of like being in the wedding pictures when, like, you're just a girlfriend for sure. But.

[Koji]

But I Don't know. They.

[Jackson Claude]

They're.

[Koji]

They seem to always be out and about.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. Yeah, you're right. They. Oh, they do always include.

[Koji]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

Which I don't even know that it's the right thing.

[Koji]

It's required. Right.

[Jackson Claude]

But yeah, there's strength in numbers here.

[Koji]

Yeah. It's giving, like, you know, everyone says, you're dead. Roll over. Like, we're all saying one thing.

[Jackson Claude]

No. And, like, we're all getting along.

[Koji]

Right. We're an amazing family who love each other.

[Jackson Claude]

And there are.

[Koji]

I don't know what you're talking about.

[Jackson Claude]

There are two, like, new, you know, variables in the.

[Koji]

And they agree with us.

[Jackson Claude]

Romeo's and Cruz's girlfriend. And they are able to put on a happy face. Like, what's wrong with you two? Yeah, yeah, it's pretty glaring.

[Koji]

But to Brooklyn and Nicholas credit. And I know it's only been one week. They have asked for privacy. And, like, they. They aren't being, like, thirst monster generals, but, of course, that would be so obvious. Only time will tell. But if privacy is really what they want and that's what they end up doing, like, that will be, like, the true vindication of them.

[Jackson Claude]

They're still in their lakefront Canada era phase.

[Koji]

Yeah, for sure.

[Jackson Claude]

You know, Harry and Meghan didn't make the move for, like, three months.

[Koji]

Oh, well, you mean physically moved to the States, but they didn't make a move to, like, media for maybe a year. Like, they were smart enough.

[Jackson Claude]

Well, they did the Oprah interview.

[Koji]

Right.

[Jackson Claude]

And that was, like.

[Koji]

That was big.

[Jackson Claude]

That was maybe two months late. Was that two months later? You were in the British.

[Koji]

I was in the British Virgin Islands. Yes. When was I in the bvi?

[Jackson Claude]

No, I think it was actually a year later because they. They exited.

[Koji]

I was in the BBI's March.

[Jackson Claude]

It was Brian's birthday of 21. Because they exited right before COVID Oh.

[Koji]

So it was like a year.

[Jackson Claude]

So it was like a year before they did Oprah, but they had already moved to the States.

[Koji]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Jackson Claude]

But it was also Covid. So they were limited in what they could do. I think they were stifled by satellite interview.

[Koji]

Wouldn't have cut it.

[Jackson Claude]

No. And, like, they're. Yeah, they're not gonna make their. No one's going out. Like, you can't make your big entree. What are you doing?

[Koji]

Right. Right to society.

[Jackson Claude]

So if they're following their playbook, I think we have a couple months before we hear from them. Our fifth and final story. Are you ready for it?

[Koji]

If it's Our fifth and final story that's brought to you by Taylor Farms and their fabulous chopped salad. That's right. I said fabulous salad because, yeah, I eat salads. And everybody knows that eating salads not only are good for you, but they're good for your, like, superiority complex. Like, you think people see you eating a salad and they must be thinking amazing things about you. It's a very main character to be eating a salad. But sometimes the practical application of policy is extremely difficult. Like, eating a salad isn't always easy and it's not always delicious. And that's why you need to be shopping the Taylor Farms chop salad kits because they make salad eating so easy. First of all, like, dishes. Peaches. No, they pre wash, pre chop everything for you. They pre design it. They come in beautiful recipes. You don't need to add anything. You can, but you don't have to. And they're available everywhere. So it just, like, couldn't. It's never been easier to eat a salad because if you are going to get me to eat a salad, like, I'm not going to work for it, right? I'm not going to have to, like, go out and harvest my own vegetables. I'm certainly not going to, like, wash and chop them. If you want me to eat a salad, like, you have to bring the salad to me. And Taylor Farms understands, like, that sometimes salads feel inaccessible. And this isn't like your grandma's bagged salad, because I know what you guys are thinking, like, preconceived notions about a salad in a bag. Trust and believe. That's not what's going on here. It's fresh. The recipes are inspired. Let me read you some of their flavors. Everything, like, everything. Seasoning, you know, avocado, ranch, Asian salad, Caesar, of course, Classic Mexican street corn. Eating salads doesn't have to be hard. Taylor Farms is here to support you. So pick up a Taylor Farms chop salad kit and get your salad to get together. Today's episode is also brought to you by ASPCA Pet Health Insurance Program. Your pet is part of the family, and you would do pretty much anything for them, right? But those vet bills can really add up quicker than you think. And that's why it's worth checking out ASPCA Pet health insurance. Pet insurance can help manage vet bills so you can focus on what really matters, like making sure your pet gets the care that they need when they need it. Here's a little bonus. There is a perk for enrolling as well. So when you enroll in an ASPCA pet health insurance plan. You could get a $25Amazon gift card. It's a little treat for you while you're doing something great for your pet. Pet. The program offers customizable accident and illness plans, making it easier to get your pet the care that they need. It's been around for almost 20 years and has you covered with nearly 1 million pets in that time. You can tailor your plan to fit your budget, your lifestyle, and your pet's particular quirks. Because big vet bills never show up when it's convenient, do they? I mean, tell that to Theo, God rest his soul. To Explore coverage, visit ASPCapeTinsurance.com toast that's ASPCapeTinsurance.COM toast Eligibility restrictions apply. Visit ASPCapeTinsurance.Com Amazon terms for more information. This is a paid advertisement. Insurance is underwritten by either Independence American Insurance Company or United States Fire Insurance Company and produced by PTZ Insurance Agency Ltd. The ASPCA is not an insurer and is not engaged in the business of insurance.

[Jackson Claude]

Thank you. The business of Turdy.

[Koji]

You're welcome.

[Jackson Claude]

Our fits.

[Koji]

And it's a tough business to be in.

[Jackson Claude]

What kind of business you in?

[Koji]

The business of turturance. Thanks for asking.

[Jackson Claude]

Our fifth and final story, Sydney Sweeney shares a sneak peek at her new lingerie line, cern. I don't know how to S y R N CN cern.

[Koji]

This is. First of all, she should be having lingerie.

[Jackson Claude]

She should call it sin S y N. Like, like Sidney. Like, she doesn't have an R in her name.

[Koji]

Right?

[Jackson Claude]

And then sin. It's like sinful. And she is into the double entendres because she posted a teaser video on Sunday and she wrote on the mirror in lipstick saying, Coming 128. And then the site currently displays the message, I'm coming for you.

[Koji]

Got it. Like, cute and funny. That's exactly what she should be doing. Is this what the, like, whole Hollywood sign fiasco?

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, she was, like, draping bras over the Hollywood sign in a guerrilla marketing stunt for cern.

[Koji]

And they're saying she's getting arrested and all. There's backlash. But it's all manufactured, right? Like, it's fake. And they obviously had permits to do so.

[Jackson Claude]

So they had permits to film, but not to, like, touch the sign and climb on and throw bras over dirty underwear so she could get into some legal TR trouble.

[Koji]

It's giving. What is it giving? Come on, read my mind.

[Jackson Claude]

Vanessa Hudgens.

[Koji]

Yes. Oh, my God, we are such Sisters.

[Jackson Claude]

That's what happens when I feel your call. I can complete it for you. Shut up.

[Koji]

You're such a teacher. Like, with your teachable moment. Like, go away. Can't we just have a nice moment? Yes. It's giving when rest in peace to Vanessa Hudgens and her old boyfriend, what's his name? Austin Butler. When they went on, like, a romantic hike through a national park and carved their names, their initials in a tree, which is cute, but also illegal in a national park.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Koji]

So it's like doing something for content, not realizing. Next thing you know, you're in jail.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. And you told I'm yourself.

[Koji]

I can't believe you knew what I was talking about. That's really crazy. Simpatico.

[Jackson Claude]

So, yeah, that's what she was doing with her brassieres on the Hollywood sign. But she's also coming out with a lingerie line, and it seems to be like, you know, this is her big one. Like, it's her line cern. It's not like a collaboration, you know, it's. This is her big project. She's the face of a lot of things, but she hasn't, like, come out with her own products.

[Koji]

There was a tik tok of, like, somebody in Sephora, and literally, Sydney Sweeney was on, like, eight different brands. She's like the Caristas girl. She's the Moroccan oil girl.

[Jackson Claude]

You could do carouses and Moroccan.

[Koji]

Maybe not Moroccan oil. Sorry. But, like, she's really commercial, and I feel like she's done so many brand deals, I don't even know all of them.

[Jackson Claude]

She did, like, K19.

[Koji]

Like, she did. Oh, she was. He does, like, so many.

[Jackson Claude]

And carousels and.

[Koji]

I don't know, maybe it was a car toss or K19. I'm just gonna ask Chat, like, what brand. What brands has Sydney Sweeney been the face of in the last four years?

[Jackson Claude]

She also did the Dr. Squatch.

[Koji]

Yes.

[Jackson Claude]

Soap, Bathwater. She also does Duncan. She did the jeans, of course.

[Koji]

Oh, God, we gotta be talking about the jeans. American Eagle, Miu Miu. That's fine. Armani Beauty, Laneige, and Caristas.

[Jackson Claude]

Okay, those are different categories, but, yeah, Samsung, ford.

[Koji]

Hey, dude. Dr. Squash. Baskin Robbins.

[Jackson Claude]

Baskin Robbins. Not Dunkin Donuts.

[Koji]

Auto Trader. Hellman's Mayonnaise Auto Trader. Now Cern, her own lingerie brand. Like, it's a lot. And I only. My only fear is like, yeah, girl, get your bag. 100. It's giving a little oversaturation. Like, the thing is, though, now it's her own brand.

[Jackson Claude]

I actually don't think so. She's in so many different far reaching categories that I didn't even realize. Like there was a time where she did like three in one week. And I think that was like too much. And people were like, I remember when.

[Koji]

She did laneige, I was like, it's enough.

[Jackson Claude]

Does she have like money problems?

[Koji]

Like why? It's like giving debt.

[Jackson Claude]

When she did Baskin Robbins like right after Squatch and Ari or whatever, she.

[Koji]

Came up with like a cone right at Baskin Robbins. It was giving. It was really low.

[Jackson Claude]

It was too much in one week. But like, I don't know about Auto Trader. Yeah, Like I didn't know about Ford. Like I feel like she's going all over and like if you are into Lineage, you also don't know about Auto Trader. So I feel like she does pretty much a good job. But this is her first time.

[Koji]

Like she's launching her own.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, yeah.

[Koji]

No, I'm just worried about her and her like brand deals. I just get your bag.

[Jackson Claude]

Of course.

[Koji]

But when I think of like her career longevity, like I would maybe suggest just slowing it down a little bit.

[Jackson Claude]

So this feels like a move for career longevity. And now it's like, okay, so you're Sydney Sweeney. You have all this, you know, buying power amongst your audience. You've sold for all these brands so like you're gonna launch your own.

[Koji]

And lingerie is like obviously what she's gonna do. I wonder if she's wearing it in euphoria because the euphoria trailer just came out. They do a five year jump and it turns out that Cassie's character is like an only fans model. She makes content on the Internet, like in her underwear. So that'd be great synergy. That would be great synergy.

[Jackson Claude]

Synergy. Why is it called cern?

[Koji]

I really don't want to know.

[Jackson Claude]

I want to know because I really like sin.

[Koji]

Yeah. By the way, look, it's never too late to rebound. Look at Skims. We don't even remember that Skim's original brand name was Kimono.

[Jackson Claude]

It's true.

[Koji]

Such a bad name, by the way, for like what they were making. They weren't. That's like selling a pack of cookies. Like calling it chips. Like a kimono is a type of clothing.

[Jackson Claude]

It's a type of garment and she.

[Koji]

Was selling a different garment. It's.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, but that's also like she was about to change what it meant to. For something to be kimono.

[Koji]

You can't like change the language. It already exists.

[Jackson Claude]

No, but that's why it was also a problem.

[Koji]

It was culturally insensitive. Of course.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, like the erasure of the kimono.

[Koji]

Not for me. I love a fucking kimono. I just want to say, especially when I'm feeling big.

[Jackson Claude]

But if you were starting to call, call like your shapewear kimono.

[Koji]

And by the way, a kimono is the total opposite. Shapewear is tight and restrictive. Kimono's like big and flowy.

[Jackson Claude]

No, I, I know. I'm just telling you.

[Koji]

And I'm telling you that's my call.

[Jackson Claude]

And what's the call?

[Koji]

You're a.

[Jackson Claude]

Okay.

[Koji]

All right, let's dive into Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment. If you ever want to write into Dear Toasters, head over to our website, the toastpodcast.com. there's a submission box, totally anonymous. Or you can write to us via email. Dear toasters, gmail.com. these are real submissions from real girls. These are, are kind of a diverse bunch. Ready?

[Jackson Claude]

Okay.

[Koji]

Hello, Swirlies.

[Jackson Claude]

Hi.

[Koji]

I, a 17 year old girl.

[Jackson Claude]

17. We have a 17 year old listener.

[Koji]

Yeah, yeah. And I. That's so not why I chose submission. I just want like we are young.

[Jackson Claude]

And hip, just casual.

[Koji]

I, a 17 year old girl, have nannied for a family for a few months. I've grown really close to the girls and their mom. The dad is deployed overseas for the last 10 months. I very, very rarely interact with him. Now he's home. The mom asked me to babysit one day while babysitting the oldest daughter, who is she, told me that the mom was showing pictures of my homecoming to their dad and the dad said I looked fat in the pictures. Well, I'm trying to keep this short. I just need to mention that I am not overweight. I'm an average girl. I obviously struggle with body image just like every other girl. I feel like the father, their father often comments on other women's bodies, including the wife. And I'm scared it will cause body image problems for the sweet little girl. Thought someone I should respond with thanks, love you both.

[Jackson Claude]

What I was about to say, like obviously the 8 year old got it wrong.

[Koji]

Yeah, of course, maybe said you're sure Short.

[Jackson Claude]

Wait, but like why is the mom showing pictures of your homecoming to the dad?

[Koji]

That's the question.

[Jackson Claude]

And the source here is an eight year old girl.

[Koji]

So of course consider the source.

[Jackson Claude]

Consider the source.

[Koji]

But also, I just want to say you sound really sweet because I wasn't sure where you were going at first when I was reading this. But your question to us Is like, how do I protect the little girls from maybe like a dad who like, says weird things? Not like, what should I do? He called me fat. Like, you don't even seem concerned. You sound like you have kind of like amazing self confidence. I just want to say kudos to.

[Jackson Claude]

You, but this is a weird situation.

[Koji]

It is. I kind of. I don't want to blame the child, but I feel like.

[Jackson Claude]

But it's like so many things about.

[Koji]

This are not adding up.

[Jackson Claude]

If we don't blame the child, then you obviously have to leave this family. The mother is showing, like, pictures of you to the dad.

[Koji]

Like, in what world would the dad who's deployed overseas need to see a picture of their kid's babysitter at homecoming?

[Jackson Claude]

It's very weird.

[Koji]

Maybe the little girls came to homecoming. Like, I don't know, maybe the little.

[Jackson Claude]

Girl got it twisted.

[Koji]

Yeah, I. She blame the girl.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. Because. And wait and see if, like, other things like this, like, present themselves, if this is a pattern. But like, I don't think we can just, like, take her word for, like. That's exactly what happened to his pictures of you at homecoming. He said you look fat. It's too strange to believe. Leave.

[Koji]

It's stranger than fiction, like, because I think the girl fictionalized it.

[Jackson Claude]

And is he going back to. To be ployed?

[Koji]

Yeah, it sounds like if he's like, often making comments, it's a good thing he gets gone for 10 months a year. Okay. Not your problem. Seriously, Just.

[Jackson Claude]

Just keep an eye.

[Koji]

Yeah, of course.

[Jackson Claude]

And of course, like, you're worried about the girls, so, you know, do what you can. Hype them up at the end of the day. Like, you know this.

[Koji]

You're just a babysitter.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. But you can show them, you know, what positive self talk looks like.

[Koji]

And you sound like such a positive swirly, like you weren't even offended.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Koji]

Now the second submission I could have written myself. And that is why I chose it, because I have personal experience with this.

[Jackson Claude]

Okay. And do you need my advice too?

[Koji]

No, I fixed it. So I'm gonna help this girl in two seconds. Hello, swirlies. My husband doesn't brush his teeth before bed, and it really grosses me out. He claims he doesn't need to because the dentist always says his teeth look great and healthy. Would it be crazy of me to call the dentist before his next appointment and rat him? And so they tell him that he needs to brush before bed. I'm his emergency contact on his list of people who are allowed to discuss his care so legally, they should be able to listen to me. Please help.

[Jackson Claude]

Well, that's a great idea. I'm excited to hear Claudia's, but I kind of love that.

[Koji]

So I had the same issue. And the thing is, that's so funny is, like, I was, like, really, like, pestering Ben to brush his teeth before bed. He only brushes them in the morning because he leaves his toothbrush in the shower and he showers in the morning. So I would say Ben is, like, really gross. You need to brush your teeth. I would, like, literally kick him out of bed to go brush his teeth, and he would like, like a three year old, like, go. And it just wasn't something that he felt compelled to do. And when we would go to the dentist, like, I had, I'm riddled with issues like, I have multiple cavities. I just got a root canal. I have a crown. Ben has never had a cavity. The man doesn't brush his teeth at night.

[Jackson Claude]

It's.

[Koji]

God protects drunks and idiots. It's insane. So recently, Ben has become obsessed with oral care. Okay, how did I get him to do this? I'm not entirely sure. There were two factors. First is that I did get him a second toothbrush for the sink.

[Jackson Claude]

Great idea.

[Koji]

Because having, I understand, like to go into the shower to grab your toothbrush, and then you leave it at the sink in the next morning. It's not in the shower because the.

[Jackson Claude]

Night before we can have two toothbrushes. Cardboard Koji will allow it.

[Koji]

Two toothbrushes. It never occurred to me. Two toothbrushes. Second, I pestered him so much about his breath. I don't know if that was a catalyst. Like, and I'm talking years. Years of getting into bed being like, the first word out of my mouth. Your breath smells. And we wake up in the morning. The first word, your breath smells. I was like, I'm sure my breasts, you delight.

[Jackson Claude]

How fun.

[Koji]

I don't know if that's what pushed it over the edge. I really, like. Ben has become.

[Jackson Claude]

The bullying is.

[Koji]

Ben has become so crazy about. He scrapes his tongue now. And I bought him a tongue scraper, you guys, five years ago when I started tongue scraping, he never touched it once. He tongue scrapes. He brushes multiple times a day. He mouthwashes multiple times a day. He flosses multiple times a day. He is obsessed with oral care now. Maybe it's just like a stage of maturity in men where they start to care about it. I don't know what it is is that got him to the point of obsession. But I imagine it was partially my bullying.

[Jackson Claude]

Okay.

[Koji]

Partially my making it easy. I always have floss accessible. He wanted to get into tongue screaming because he saw, like, a TikTok about it and he already had one. If he had to wait for Amazon to come, he might have forgotten about. Right. I think, like, you need to take your man's phone and speak to the algorithm, talking about, like, the dangers of poor oral hygiene. Like, I don't know what it was.

[Jackson Claude]

He needs one of those AI videos.

[Koji]

I'm your tooth and I'm decaying because you don't brush me at night. Get out of bed yet, fat fuck. Like, that's literally what he needs.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. So I actually like the girl's suggestion, like, call the dentist and just be like, hey, can you restate to my husband that he needs to brush his teeth before bed? You actually told me a really interesting fact once.

[Koji]

Okay, so I read a fact in, like, literally. I remember it was my job in health class in, like, third grade.

[Jackson Claude]

You told me this a few months.

[Koji]

Yeah, I know, but I learned it in the third. No, no, I might have been in the sixth grade. For health class, it was our job to, like, bring in a news story, like, about a study or whatever, and.

[Jackson Claude]

Share what we learned.

[Koji]

And I had chosen one. And the way this has stuck with me, when you sleep at night, so much bacteria builds up in your mouth. You're breathing in through your mouth, you're breathing in through your nose, so that when you wake up and the first thing you do is brush your teeth, you get rid of that bacteria. And if you don't and you then, like, go on to eat and drink throughout the day, you swallow all that bacteria, it can actually make you sick.

[Jackson Claude]

That's not what I was gonna say that you said. And she doesn't have an issue with him brushing his teeth in the morning.

[Koji]

Oh, okay. Okay. Jesus Christ. Okay. What did I tell you?

[Jackson Claude]

You told me that some dentist. I quizzed you, like, which toothbrushing is more important, the morning one or the night one?

[Koji]

It's so funny. I don't even remember this.

[Jackson Claude]

You. You quiz me. I obviously would have said the morning. It's the night because of the food in your teeth. It, like, festers in your mouth overnight. Yeah, that one's more important. Tell him that. And everyone wants to brush their teeth in the morning. Nobody wants to walk around with morning breath. Of course it's. You actually say, if you only want to brush your teeth once, do it night. And he's still going to do the Morning one. Because duh. Yeah, but get him to do that Night one. But also call the dentist. Just call the dentist.

[Koji]

Yeah, this is what I mean. When like the bar is in hell, like we're just begging for basic five.

[Jackson Claude]

Minute call as opposed to years of bullying. A bullying campaign you have to launch. No, five minutes Called the dentist.

[Koji]

The campaign was extremely successful. Ben's breath has never been better. And also he's a very experimental eater. So like he really more so than other people, like, needs to be on top of it if you're having tuna fish multiple times a day. Sorry. Like, we need to stay on top of our oral care. Our third and final. This one's so weird. Hey, Jackson. Claude. Should I continue to meet with my therapist of almost three years? She's given me sound advice for three years. We have great sessions. But the other day she was sharing her screen with me and I saw some photos. Oh, wait, sorry. The other day when screen sharing with me to show some photos that I asked about, I noticed two albums in her photos app titled of content Content. I know this is a common in society nowadays, but I'm not sure if this aligns with my personal opinions, values and morals. What should I do? So obviously this therapist had folders of content she saved from only fans or she's created from only fans. And I want to say either way, you gotta go, you've gotta go, you gotta go.

[Jackson Claude]

Okay, I just want to say like of could mean something else, but let's like, you know what I mean? But no one uses the word content in their daily life unless they're a content creator, you know. But maybe they have a patient who's.

[Koji]

What else could the phrase of content stand for besides only fans content?

[Jackson Claude]

Maybe she has a patient whose initials are of and they're putting together an album of, you know, photos for of.

[Koji]

Content has definitely been hijacked by the Internet. But outside of only fans, it can and does mean other things depending on content context. So it can mean original format content used in media and publishing. No official content, content released by a brand company, artist organization.

[Jackson Claude]

I honestly think that it. It doesn't mean only F unless you saw like a sexy picture at the. What was the COVID of the album?

[Koji]

Academic and writing context out of field content material outside a student or researcher's main discipline. Object focused content used in museums, you know.

[Jackson Claude]

Okay, so now like someone's.

[Koji]

What about in the setting of therapy.

[Jackson Claude]

She might so issue doing only fans? Like you would know.

[Koji]

Oh, good question. In therapy, of content is definitely not only Fans in clinical therapeutic settings of almost always means obsessive focus of content means obsessive focus content. The themes and material client is fixated on due to anxiety, OCD trauma or rumination. So like intrusive thoughts is obs obsessive focus content, repetitive words, mental lo loops. This is common.

[Jackson Claude]

Okay.

[Koji]

By the way, so this is common in OCD treatment, anxiety disorders, rumination focused CBT and acceptance and commitment therapy. Do any of those apply to you, dear reader?

[Jackson Claude]

Well, you wouldn't know because she has other patients. I would say.

[Koji]

Or maybe this was in her file.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, what was the album cover? Was it her in a sexy cern?

[Koji]

What did you see?

[Jackson Claude]

And if it wasn't, then I don't think it's only fans. And if it like, I think, okay.

[Koji]

Let'S say it is only fans. Let's say you have a therapist who is creating onlyfans content. What do you do?

[Jackson Claude]

I would move on.

[Koji]

I would move on as well. It's same as what I was saying about their focus, the psychologists that focuses right elsewhere. But also like the Haley Bieber lawsuit we were talking about last week about the psychologist who's making content about celebrities. Like, yes, of course psychologists and therapists have lies outside of their job. But I'm sorry, like, your job does limit what your hobbies can be.

[Jackson Claude]

And it's not hobbies, it's jobs outside of you.

[Koji]

Your jobs. And I don't think that you can be a therapist and an only fans content creator. And if that's a hot take, then you'll call 9111 shorty fire burning on the dance floor.

[Jackson Claude]

However, I don't think.

[Koji]

I think it can be a therapeutic phrase, but I think you're okay. Unless you saw like a T titty.

[Jackson Claude]

You know what you saw. And like, I feel like you could surmise. Surmise based on the individual. Like, does this person have the potential to be on making only fans content?

[Koji]

Agreed. We leave that judgment to you, dear reader. Dear toaster guys, fabulous episode in the can. We're back tomorrow with Tell me lies recap.

[Jackson Claude]

Hopefully.

[Koji]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Jackson Claude]

Don't make big promises.

[Koji]

I won't make promises I can't keep. Yeah. Thank you guys so much for listening to the justly landed morning show. We deal the best stories you need to know. Everybody, the friendly YouTube watching us on YouTube. Please forget to subscribe and give a visit. Thumbs up.

[Jackson Claude]

Love you, bye.