The Toast – “The Cheese Stands Alone”

Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry
Date: January 27, 2026
Podcast: The Toast (Dear Media)

Episode Overview

This episode of The Toast is a vibrant, fast-moving chat between hosts Jackie and Claudia as they kick off a Tuesday with pop culture catch-ups, reality TV recaps, and their signature playful banter. They touch on streaming habits, current scandals in the celebrity world, reality show retrospectives, fashion revelations, and their advice segment, all with quick wit and a sense of camaraderie. The recurring theme is about being true to oneself—standing alone (like the cheese!), handling online drama, and dressing for your own joy.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Tuesday Blues and Errand-Running Mishaps

• Tone: Relatable, self-deprecating
• Koji laments the “depressing” nature of a Tuesday, admitting to feeling low-energy after not running morning errands.
• A short tangent about nostalgic children’s jingles and the importance of pre-Toaster errands leads to a running joke about having “nothing to give” if not properly prepped.
  • “[00:45] I have really nothing to give today since I ran no errands...”

2. Streaming Habits, Peacock, and TV Chatter

• Tone: Candid, frugal, TV-obsessed
• The hosts riff on the sometimes temporary nature of certain streaming services, especially Peacock, which they only subscribe to for special events (Olympics, Love Island, etc.).
  • “[03:18] There’s just something about Peacock… it’s so temporary to me. I can’t explain it.”
• Upcoming Winter Olympics streaming, Johnny Weir, and possible crossover with current Peacock shows.
• Discussion of current TV obsessions:
  • Real Housewives of Beverly Hills: Koji’s return after forgetting how good last season was, praising Garcelle, and curiosity about the “new girl.”
  • Traders & Love Island: Subscriptions managed based on release calendar.
• Witty financial pride over subscription management.
• Memorable Segment: Playful debate over sharing streaming passwords and who’s truly being “fiscally responsible.”

3. The Olympics Chatter & TV Crossovers

• Tone: Playful, speculative
• They realize they haven't hyped up the 2026 Winter Olympics enough and joke about Olympians joining “Traders.”
  • "[05:15] Get Katie Ledecky on there. Okay."
  • "[05:28] …they cast Colton. So, like, they don’t care about people with, like, kind of sketchy pasts. Ryan Lochte, he’s ripe for Traders."
• Deep-dive into Ryan Lochte’s controversial Olympic past, his rivalry with Michael Phelps, and side commentary on pop culture (e.g., comparing Michael Phelps’ man bun era to Justin Baldoni).
• Koji vents about not having her “calls” hyped up by Jackson, sparking a running inside-joke about supporting each other’s wild takes.

4. Cheese in the Purse: “The Cheese Stands Alone”

• Tone: Silly, slice-of-life
• The episode’s namesake moment: Koji’s adventure with accidentally carrying cheese in her purse all day, sparking a riff on being “cheap” vs. “convenient.”
  • "[09:30] Did you put pull out that cheese on the show? Yeah, yeah."
• Debate over the value of running back for $6 worth of cheese, and how these small moments make for great “purse cheese content.”
• Quick aside about needing a tiny fridge for on-the-go snacks.

5. Fashion, Mall Trips, and Koji’s “Fancy Pants”

• Tone: Playful, body-positive
• Koji confesses to minimal outfit rotation and the urgent need for new underwear, prompting gratitude that nobody in the audience comments on it.
  • "[13:41] …I want to appreciate everybody, like, not commenting on the fact that there’s like four shirts in rotation..."
• Proud announcement of new “Guizio” (Danielle Guizio) pants—“cashmere, no less.”
  • "[13:34] I’m wearing cashmere pants from Guizio."
• Plans are made for an intentional, full-out mall day.
• Banter about “hundred thousand dollar hair”—if your hair looks good, do you even need an outfit?

6. “Fast Five” Pop Culture Stories & Hot Takes

A. Taylor Swift, Blake Lively, and Justin Baldoni’s Legal Drama

• Timestamps: [18:29] – [29:34]
• Key Points:
  • Taylor Swift allegedly “fuming” after private texts with Blake Lively are released in court; the hosts empathize with her feeling “exposed and violated.”
    • "[19:23] …Having her text out there made her feel exposed and violated. Like something private suddenly wasn’t hers anymore."
  • Legal context breakdown: Blake is suing Justin, his countersuits have been tossed.
  • Discussion of court evidence backfiring in the court of public opinion.
  • Parallels drawn to the infamous Sony email hack and how company/country drama plays out in the media.
  • Observations on problematic on-set behavior and how both Blake and Justin Baldoni faced heat over “sensitive” content in their film.

B. Tyra Banks & America’s Next Top Model "Reality Check" Doc

• Timestamps: [29:53] – [36:41]
• Key Points:
  • Trailer for the new doc drops, Tyra admits “she went too far”—the hosts analyze her savvy move of “saying it before anyone else can.”
    • "[30:20] This is just sheer brilliance on Tyra’s part. It’s giving Fat Amy. She’s saying it before anyone else can...”
  • Discusses other problematic reality TV (e.g., The Swan, Bridal Plasti) and how shocking the old formats appear in hindsight.
  • Notable moments recalling reality shows offering plastic surgery as prizes and their cultural fallout.

C. Kim Kardashian’s Netflix Movie & Nikki Glaser Cameos

• Timestamps: [36:57] – [39:44]
• Key Points:
  • First look at Kim’s Netflix film “The Fifth Wheel,” directed by Eva Longoria, starring Nikki Glaser, Brenda Song, Fortune Feimster.
  • Hosts are skeptical about Kim-in-comedy, but hopeful for the ensemble.
  • Side discussion: Nikki Glaser’s history as a Taylor Swift “superfan” and her “Miss Americana” documentary moment, and how it haunted her.
    • "[38:59] …hearing her voice in a documentary she was, like, so excited to watch and how it was, like, quite literally the worst moment of her life.”

D. Beckham Family United Post-Brooklyn Outburst

• Timestamps: [39:49] – [43:34]
• Key Points:
  • Victoria Beckham gets a major French government honor; entire family (incl. partners) comes for support.
  • David Beckham’s poised public response to family drama praised for maturity:
    • "[40:12] …'kids make mistakes and they have to, like, sort of come to those realizations on their own. But, like, we love him.' It was like, such a good response."
  • Discussion of how the family has always included partners and gives “strength in numbers.”

E. Sydney Sweeney Launches Lingerie Brand “Cern”

• Timestamps: [46:33] – [51:46]
• Key Points:
  • Sydney Sweeney teases her lingerie line “cern,” with viral guerrilla marketing at the Hollywood sign.
  • Debate over the name (“Sin” would be better!) and whether the “arrest outrage” was just staged marketing.
  • Sweeney’s brand saturation discussed; hosts weigh in if she’s overexposed but admit launching a personal brand is smart.
    • "[49:36] …now it’s her own brand.”
    • "[50:21] So this feels like a move for career longevity..."

7. Dear Toasters: Advice Segment

• Timestamps: [51:49] – [63:21]
• Tone: Empathetic, humorous, direct
• Highlights:
  • Babysitter worried about family’s body talk: Good intentions, consider the source (the 8-year-old), but keep an eye on negative patterns.
  • Husband won’t brush teeth at night: Hilarious, practical solutions (get another toothbrush, gently nudge, or, as Claudia details, bully for years). Classic:
    • "[55:20] Would it be crazy of me to call the dentist before his next appointment and rat him?"
  • Therapist with ‘OF Content’ photo albums: Hosts determine it could mean many things (not necessarily OnlyFans), but if it’s really that, move on.
    • "[62:14] …I don’t think you can be a therapist and an OnlyFans content creator."

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Streaming FOMO:

  “There’s just something about Peacock… it’s so temporary to me.”
  — Koji, [03:18]

• On Legal Drama & Privacy:

  “Having her text out there made her feel exposed and violated. Like something private suddenly wasn’t hers anymore. That doesn’t sit well with her.”
  — Jackson Claude, [19:11]

• On Tyra Bank’s Redemption Arc:

  “Tyra spearheading the documentary so she can’t really be cancelled is an act of, like, serious ingenuity. It’s brilliant.”
  — Koji, [30:20]

• On Fashion and Mall Outings:

  “I’m wearing cashmere pants from Guizio.”
  — Koji, [13:34]

• On The Cheese Anecdote:

  “Look at the content we got out of the cheese.”
  — Koji, [09:59]

• On Relationship Support:

  “It’s not even that I believe in your calls. It’s that I believe in you.”
  — Koji, [07:23]

Additional Fun Timestamps

• [09:30] — Koji's purse cheese confession.
• [19:23] — Sympathy for Taylor Swift’s text leak.
• [31:45] — “We were all rooting for you” and Top Model retrospectives.
• [42:11] — Beckham family’s “strength in numbers.”
• [49:36] — Sydney Sweeney's branding blitz.
• [58:46] — Tooth brushing: morning vs night?

Episode Vibe & Flow

The episode is quintessential “Toast”—fun, conversational, occasionally erratic but always centered on current pop culture and shared daily frustrations. The interplay between Jackie and Claudia is lightheartedly competitive, with running inside-jokes about “calls,” supportive friendship, and tributes to their loyal audience. Even the smallest mishaps (like purse cheese or outfit repetition) become springboards for comedic reflection and gentle self-acceptance.

Perfect For: Anyone who likes their celebrity tea mixed with humor, a dose of real-life girl chat, and a peek behind the chaotic curtain of influencer-adjacent life. Even if you haven’t seen the shows referenced or kept up with the latest scandals, Jackie & Claudia’s mix of summary, snark, and sisterhood makes this episode a breezy ride through Tuesday’s pop culture essentials.