B (1:51)

And so I went to ChatGPT, and I was like, hey, Swirly, can you let me know who invented girly swirly? And ChatGPT was like, well, I believe there were, like, you know, references to girly and swirly in some pop teen magazines in the early 2000s but the phrase became widely popularized in 2020. And I said, oh, what happened?

A (2:11)

2020? You said the 2020s.

B (2:13)

Okay, then that's what it was. Sorry, I forgot.

A (2:15)

Okay.

B (2:15)

And I was like, oh, what happened in the 2000s? What made it popular? And they were like, oh, the Internet. You know, like podcast and tick tock. And I was like. I actually said, someone's like, you have to correct chat gbt. They're like, low key, not smart. And I was like, hi, chat. Actually, you're wrong. The podcasters, Jackie and Claudia Ashray of the Toast made it famous. And he was like, you know what?

A (2:35)

You're right.

B (2:36)

And they were like, here's how it happened. You know, podcast audience becomes niche. Niche audience becomes Internet, whatever.

A (2:43)

Hopefully.

B (2:43)

Now, if you ask chat gbt, I've, like, course corrected.

A (2:45)

Yeah, yeah. But we all know we work, of course. And if you really want to do your homework, like, it's in the files, Everything. The receipts are online. As Heather Gay would see. Receipts, timeline, screenshots.

B (2:58)

No, that's not it.

A (3:01)

Receipts proof, timeline, screenshots, fucking everything, right?

B (3:07)

Fucking everything.

A (3:08)

I guess that was a viral sound at the time. I do want to update everyone because I belatedly have watched that season of Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. And after mostly avoiding spoilers when it all happened, now that I've watched that season, I've asked Claudia, like, what was the temperature of the country like when that came out? And Claude was like, oh, my God. It was like, scandal. It was the biggest thing. And even when I posted it on my story, the people responding to me, like, receipts, timeline proof. I'm like, that was the quote you guys took away from it. I didn't realize that was like, the.

B (3:36)

Money so kind of like, embedded in American culture now. Much like girly swirly is.

A (3:42)

Receipts, timeline proof, screenshots, fucking everything. So can I just share my thoughts on what I thought? Because I had an idea.

B (3:50)

Did you not. Do we not have this conversation?

A (3:51)

I hadn't seen the big reveal yet.

B (3:54)

Are you sure?

A (3:55)

Positive. Positive. I was just enjoying my season, saying, I'm Team Lisa Barlow. She was on to Monica. And I had an idea that, like, Monica was this insidious character and that, like, she did something, some cyber bullying, but I didn't know the extent of it. And, like, as I'm watching the season, I was like, oh, maybe she was just the one who sent Meredith that DM about Angie and, like, just made a fake burner account and was getting called out for it. But no, the fact that she was running like a Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Specific right? Fan account for bullying the girls. She was like, she was. She said she was one sixth of it. And in her part, she was interested in bullying Jen John. Jen shot only, but like she was surrounding herself with the people who are bullying Whitney and Lisa. And like that is so fudgeing crazy and so insane that Bravo let her on the show. And she maintains that she told Bravo that she did this. I would love to know if that's true, how this slipped through the cracks. But the whole season, like her presence on the show was so weird.

B (4:44)

Yeah.

A (4:44)

And she'll, she'll make it about money. Be like, what, because I don't have. No.

B (4:47)

But a little bit because you don't have money. It is a show about affluent women.

A (4:50)

Plenty of people, like come on the show of different means have different things to bring to the table. She really didn't have much to bring to the table except for being obsessed with Jen Cha. Like that was it all season. I was like, not about her. I felt like she like went for like low blows, low hanging fruit. She also like, she thought she was like such a slay and she would like argue with people, but she would do the cheapest arguing tactic. Oh no. She's gonna be like, it's about money. No.

B (5:13)

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C (5:38)

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