The Toast – December 17, 2025: “The Fast Five”
Main Theme & Episode Overview
In this relaxed, “girly swirly chit chat” episode of The Toast, hosts Jackie and Claudia Oshry forego a big planned topic and instead catch up on personal anecdotes, discuss viral pop culture moments, and give listeners insights into their lives and opinions. The episode flows from playful banter over ownership of catchphrases, a ChatGPT interaction, to a deep dive into “Real Housewives of Salt Lake City” drama, all with their signature humor and candor.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. The “Girly Swirly” Lipstick Controversy
- Origin Story: Jackie and Claudia discuss how a Revlon lipstick was released named “Girly Swirly,” a phrase they claim to have coined.
- [00:34] Claudia: “A while ago, Revlon came out with a lipstick called Girly Swirly. And ... I’m like, you stealing our language without compensating us?”
- They humorously admit to consulting an attorney, only to discover no legal action could be taken.
- The duo decided not to promote the product since they weren’t compensated.
- Fan Reactions & Ownership:
- [01:13] Claudia checks their Facebook group, where fans debated whether Jackie & Claudia created "girly swirly."
- Claudia asserts: “If we didn’t create it, then who did? ... We literally did.”
- Jackie reflects on their influence: “You could walk it all the way back. We did create it.”
- ChatGPT Saga:
- Claudia recounts consulting ChatGPT about “girly swirly’s” origins.
- [01:51] Claudia: “...I was like, hey, Swirly, can you let me know who invented girly swirly? And ChatGPT was like... the phrase became widely popularized in 2020.”
- When corrected, ChatGPT acknowledged the sisters as the source, effectively “course correcting” AI history.
- Jackie: “If you really want to do your homework, like, it’s in the files. Everything. The receipts are online.”
- Claudia recounts consulting ChatGPT about “girly swirly’s” origins.
2. Viral Pop Culture Phrases & “Real Housewives” References
- The discussion segues into viral internet phrases, specifically Heather Gay’s “receipts, timeline, proof, screenshots, fucking everything,” from Real Housewives of Salt Lake City.
- [03:01] Jackie: “Receipts proof, timeline, screenshots, fucking everything, right?”
- Claudia: “Fucking everything.”
- Jackie shares she finally caught up with that season of RHOSLC and was curious about the public reaction at the time. Claudia describes the scandal as “the biggest thing.”
3. Deep Dive: Monica & the RHOSLC Scandal
- Jackie recounts the season's drama, particularly around Monica running a “bullying” fan account targeting cast members.
- [03:55] Jackie: “She was running like a Real Housewives of Salt Lake City-specific, right, fan account for bullying the girls... surrounding herself with the people who are bullying Whitney and Lisa.”
- Expresses disbelief that Bravo allowed Monica on the show, even after she allegedly told them about her involvement.
- Jackie is critical of Monica’s on-air personality and tactics, describing her as lacking substance and defaulting to arguments about wealth.
- [04:50] “Plenty of people come on the show of different means, have different things to bring to the table. She really didn’t have much to bring to the table except for being obsessed with Jen Cha.”
- Claudia briefly agrees with the assessment.
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- Claudia on Revlon’s Lipstick:
“You stealing our language without compensating us? Yeah, we love it. Yeah.” (00:34) - On Consulting ChatGPT:
“Someone’s like, you have to correct ChatGPT. They’re, like, low key, not smart. And I was like, hi, Chat, actually, you’re wrong. The podcasters, Jackie and Claudia Ashray of The Toast made it famous.” (02:15) - Jackie on Receipts Culture:
“If you really want to do your homework, like, it’s in the files. Everything. The receipts are online. As Heather Gay would say, receipts, timeline, screenshots.” (02:45) - Jackie on the RHOSLC Drama:
“That is so fudgeing crazy and so insane that Bravo let her on the show.” (04:32) - On Viral Sounds:
“Receipts, timeline proof, screenshots, fucking everything.” (03:07)
Timestamps for Important Segments
- 00:34 – 02:45: “Girly Swirly” lipstick origins and ChatGPT journey
- 02:45 – 03:36: Viral RHOSLC phrase and Heather Gay’s “receipts” moment
- 03:50 – 04:50: Jackie’s reactions to Monica’s RHOSLC drama and critiques
- 04:50 – 05:13: Reflections on Monica’s lack of substance on RHOSLC
Tone & Conclusion
Jackie and Claudia’s tone remains playful, self-aware, and pop-culture savvy, blending personal narrative with cultural commentary. The episode is a fun “behind-the-scenes” for longtime fans—offering both nostalgia regarding catchphrases and fresh takes on reality TV controversies.
Perfect for listeners who enjoy candid sister banter, pop culture deep dives, and internet culture commentary—delivered with The Toast’s signature wit.
