B (1:43)

We can't even be mad. No.

A (1:44)

Oh my God, not at all. I was like so excited to come home. And they're up.

B (1:46)

Okay, let's hope. Yeah, of course. That's my dream. That's my dream.

A (1:49)

It was honestly like not that bad. But, but it's crazy. And that's like that's why we don't go out.

B (1:54)

Correct. Well, not only did I do all of that, I did so many crazy things including flat ironing my hair. Like every now and then I just feel like, what if I just whipped out my flat iron?

A (2:03)

It looks good.

B (2:05)

Does it?

A (2:05)

Yeah, your hair really can't look bad.

B (2:09)

That's very sweet. Thanks. I wasn't expecting like, I'm like blushing. Oh my God.

A (2:15)

I mean I'd be happy to like give you an insult with that as well. Yeah.

B (2:18)

No, no, no.

A (2:19)

Just, just, just leave it there. Set it down.

B (2:22)

Say less bestie.

A (2:23)

Set it down.

B (2:25)

I thought I had my hair. And then I also brought Reuben to meet Mark Sean mother yesterday. Like, the two hadn't met yet.

A (2:31)

Maybe more iconic duo.

B (2:34)

And let me tell you something about babies. Like, they really. They bring out just, like, this energy and people like, obviously, Mark is an older gentleman. When I tell you I've never seen him so lit up, enthusiastic. He was, like, jumping up and down. It was so cute. It was so cute. Like, bucket list moment for me.

A (2:51)

That's precious.

B (2:52)

It really was. And let this be your time to make a donation to the mark shown by our Holocaust education Foundation.

A (2:57)

Of course. Make it your sign. Do your good deed.

B (3:01)

Make it your sign. It's giving Tuesday. Make sure to give. Oh, speaking of yesterday. Not yesterday. Excuse me, Friday, which just feels like yesterday marks five whole shows. We have made it an entire week. Let me just update my board here.

A (3:15)

Without making it a story, without talking

B (3:17)

about Licks versus Lex in a formal capacity, there was kind of some stuff to talk about over the weekend. Like, I'm afraid that we might.

A (3:24)

We might delve in. I didn't choose that as a story, so it won't be a formal capacity, but I did, like, want to talk about snl.

B (3:31)

Oh, yeah. I wasn't even gonna talk about that because, like, that was so unfunny. Like, good on them for, like, knowing what to talk about. But now, like, just do it better.

A (3:37)

Oh, my God. That was crazy. And, like, misogynistic. I find so hateful towards women. Hateful.

B (3:44)

Absolutely. I'm Alex and then am Alex. Well, they're both more successful than you, like, honestly found that insulting. I completely agree. So reductive, which is my new favorite word? Oh, that is my new favorite word. It's been saying it a lot.

A (3:55)

It's really a good one.

B (3:57)

It's reductive.

A (3:58)

Don't you find the segment was reductive? Insulting to women.

B (4:02)

It was also F1 weekend, which Alex. Which takes place in Miami, which, like, Alex was the queen of. But there were a couple of things that happened that, of course, just, like. Because I'm a starter and, like, I like to see things through the licks. Lex lens.

A (4:13)

Of course. Well, then we'll do an S1 recap story and we'll. And we'll sneak it in. There was also derby weekend.

B (4:19)

Oh, my God. I was just tearing up on Tick Tock watching my queen, the female horse trainer. Just, like, have you seen the video of her reacting from every angle?

A (4:28)

The one where she's watching the race.

B (4:30)

Yeah. Where she's kicking her feet like the horse. Did you see it from the back?

A (4:33)

Oh, no, I didn't.

B (4:34)

Okay. I've seen it from the front, the side. The back is the best angle because you don't see she's, like, standing up against the wall and she's kicking her legs on the wall, like, imitating the horse's gallop. You have to watch a video from every angle. Like, it just gets better every time you see it.

A (4:47)

And she made her story. Like, that's some real herstory. First female trainer to win the Kentucky Derby.

B (4:54)

Absolutely.

A (4:55)

Like, some women out here are talking the talk, and.

B (4:59)

No, there's. There's multiple different types of women, like

A (5:02)

galloping the gallop, making fun of other

B (5:04)

women on SNL and diminishing their accomplishments in a quite reductive way. And then there's a horse trainer whose name I can't remember, but she's a queen.

A (5:11)

Yeah, she qu of the way.

B (5:13)

Qu of the way. It's kind of like a big weekend

A (5:15)

for events, for racing, whether you like to race horses or cars. That seems to be the theme.

B (5:21)

Theme of the weekend. Racing. Yes.

A (5:23)

And theme of the weekend. My husband's birthday. My husband celebrated his birthday. That's why I had such, like, a popping weekend, you know, Bus club.

B (5:29)

Yeah. You normally would never go to dinner.

A (5:30)

Hyundai Palisade. Because we went out for dinner Friday night as a family, and then we went out to dinner, the two of us, Saturday night. And we actually tried to remember the last time we went out to dinner, the two of us. And I could not remember a time. And I remember last year we didn't go out for his birthday. So it's literally, I think, over a year since we went out.

B (5:48)

I feel like that's actually not that crazy.

A (5:50)

So we had our annual dinner date,

B (5:53)

but did you take your annual photo?

A (5:55)

We didn't take our annual photo because I. I wasn't loving my outfit. But now I realize, like, even if I didn't post the photo, we should.

B (6:01)

It's a time cap.

A (6:02)

Had the photo because, like, it's just a marker of time, the significance of the passage of time.

B (6:07)

You actually should just take one today. So you have.

A (6:10)

Well, we got a couple. We got a lot of good, like, family photos this weekend. But, you know, our. Our couple's photo didn't make it, so. And, you know, to our credit, we do go on some lunch dates, so it's not like we haven't been on a date in the year. Just not a dinner date. It's just hard, like, with bedtime. I mean, look, it didn't work.

B (6:27)

I love lunch.

A (6:28)

Love lunch date. Invite me to lunch. Always Free at lunch.

B (6:32)

Lunch.

A (6:33)

Yummy, yummy.

B (6:35)

What else can I tell you? Because you and I haven't really chatted offline about our weekend.

A (6:38)

I was so busy with my festivities and we had, you know, like a little soiree yesterday. You know, some of the basketball guys came over with their families. We got a ball pit. Highly recommends.

B (6:50)

Cute.

A (6:50)

That's highly recommend. And the kids so late this morning because they were so wiped out from the ball pit. It was party.

B (6:56)

Oh, my God. Ruby also slept till 8. I actually felt like, weird till 8am I was like, teenager.

A (7:02)

Yeah.

B (7:02)

I was like having my coffee. I flat ironed my hair. Well, he slept and I was like. At what? Yeah, I was genuinely like, so, like, confused that I just didn't know what

A (7:11)

to do with your hands.

B (7:12)

And I didn't want to blow dry because I didn't want to use my Dyson air up because I didn't want to wake him up. So that's why I flat ironed my hair. Thank you for reminding me.

A (7:17)

It all makes sense.

B (7:19)

But you know what? This weekend is Mother's Day. My very first.

A (7:24)

How are you celebrating?

B (7:26)

Sick. That it's going to be Ben's second Father's Day and it's my first.

A (7:31)

Yeah, but it's so much more special that it's your first. And obviously we're going to make such a bigger deal of it.

B (7:37)

Of course. I'm expecting like the biggest gift ever. Like, I'm expecting a push present to point out. And I'll actually be mad if I don't get one.

A (7:43)

Does he know that?

B (7:44)

Oh, I feel like he knows.

A (7:45)

You've made our expectations clear.

B (7:48)

No, I haven't. Because I want to give him the opportunity to rise to the occasion. Like. No. If he doesn't understand the gravity of this moment, he's not the man I thought he was. Honestly, I'll just.

A (7:58)

I'll give him a ring.

B (8:00)

He's not the man I thought he was.

A (8:01)

I'll drop it in. Combo.

B (8:03)

Yes. We're actually taking a trip

A (8:06)

to the Cape.

B (8:08)

Yeah, pretty much. We're taking a little trip.

A (8:10)

You're not going to tell us where? Like, I'm.

B (8:12)

No. What? I want you to come shoot me. Right.

A (8:15)

Right.

B (8:15)

So one thing about me, I'm never going to tell people where I'm going on this podcast. Like, I will lie to the dead. You can come kill me. I don't think so.

A (8:21)

Will you text me where you're going just so I can imagine it in my. My head?

B (8:25)

Yeah, I don't think you Know it actually.

A (8:26)

And I can set the scene.

B (8:29)

It's just like a party.

A (8:30)

Like a party. Little spot.

B (8:33)

Yeah. And then we're actually ending it on Sunday. We haven't. We haven't got the tickets yet, but, you know, Sunday is the first. Or no, maybe the second game of the Knicks playoffs, and we're gonna go. I told Ben we could all go as a family. I actually think that would be so fun because, you know, like, the Knicks playoffs means a lot to me because we were watching when Ruby was born, right? And, like, we can go. But I told Ben, like, obviously, like, I can't. Like, Ruby, we have to, like, sit in a suite. Like, I'm not gonna. Like, you know, I can't just go. So it's gonna be a really expensive weekend for Ben, but I'm okay with that.

A (9:04)

The Sweet Life of Gruben Ruben.

B (9:07)

No. I'm so excited. Like, literally, the level of excited I was to go to St. Barts and, like, pop my pussy. Like, doesn't even compare. Like, I'm so happy again. Oh, my God. I can't. Fudgeing. Wait. Like, I'm so excited.

A (9:17)

That's really cute.

B (9:19)

And, like, let's just, like, load up the car with shit and go, you know? Like, let's fucking go.

A (9:23)

Yeah. Yeah, I'm excited.

B (9:25)

I can't wait. Even though, like, one thing about me, and it's not me, it's actually my husband's, like, I can't load up my car with ever. Because my car stays loaded. Fully loaded. It is so annoying. We have one car. We literally have one car. Ben uses it as a storage facility because just a baseline in there, we have his golf clubs, which takes up the whole trunk. And, like, always, bare minimum, like, a couple cases of Spritz and then the travel stroller. I can't. I cannot load up my car. Like, I don't have. It's. So when Ben pulls up, it's almost always a fight. Like, he goes and gets the car. I get everything ready, and then he comes and picks us up when I get in. It's always a fight. Like, there's shit everywhere. Yesterday, the back seat was full. I guess he had interviewed Snooki. She gave him a couple of bags of merch. Like, just take it upstairs. Like, bring it home. He just loads up the car with crap.

A (10:13)

Yeah. Damn. I know. That's your cross to bear.

B (10:19)

It is the source of so many arguments in my house.

A (10:22)

I can imagine. Because it's also crazy because it's like, Claudia's a Car. So like if you go and pick someone up like from the airport, say it's like, oh no, we actually can't fit your luggage. I forget where.

B (10:30)

Like, and this has been. This is a, a hereditary thing because Ben is. This is a learned one time. Ben's used his parents car to like pick me up, I think from my dorm room in college. I was like moving out. He came and picked me up with a completely full car. I was like, where am I suitcases supposed to go? Like I was, I was moving, right? A full car. Oh my God. It was insane. It's a, it's like a decades long argument between us.

A (10:59)

Yes, you need a bigger car.

B (11:01)

We have a huge car.

A (11:02)

But you know what? It's not the next car.

B (11:04)

I completely agree. The next car. Like, I'm getting a Chevy Suburban or an Cadillac Escalade. Like I need an Uber black.

A (11:10)

Yes, you do.

B (11:13)

We're three people. Two and a half. Like, it's insane how much space we take up.

A (11:17)

Gruben, he takes up all the space. And his maxi cozy.

B (11:21)

Yeah. He uses Charlie's car seat. Even though, like I was reading Tick Tock will make you afraid of everything. I was reading, like, you really should not use a used car seat. But it's more so like a thrifted car seat because you don't know if like the safety, like it's you. I know. Like, it still works.

A (11:35)

And also like when you get into a car accident, you're supposed to immediately replace the car seat because like the, you know, it's sort of like it could.

B (11:42)

The mechanics.

A (11:43)

It's in its big one. Like it's, it's, it's a one and done.

B (11:46)

It's a one time thing.

A (11:47)

But that car seat just sat there in the Tesla for a year and a half. It's totally fine. It's really. Aside from all the crumbs, it's good as new.

B (11:55)

Well, we got our car like detailed. And you know, they cleaned the car seat. They also took it out. I could not figure it out, how to put it back in. I was about to literally go to my local fire station. You know, if you take your car seat to the firehouse, they know like, well, like they know how to do it and they'll teach you and they'll do the whole thing. I could not. It is the most complicated thing on the planet.

A (12:12)

Yeah. Those things will have you just.

B (12:15)

They will have you institutionalized in a blind rage. A blind rage. It's insane. Like, and you're like bent over trying to Watch a video. Oh, my God. Like, misery.

A (12:27)

When I went to take the maxi cozy out of my car, like, for the final time, like, I'm shocked. I'm shocked. It goes back together because I. A direction was not followed. It was like, you know, super human strength, like, ripping it out of my car.

B (12:41)

Oh, good.

A (12:42)

So. So maybe you do.

B (12:43)

Good, that's good. That's. Maybe you do need a new one.

A (12:45)

Well, if the fire station didn't say anything, then it's fine.

B (12:48)

I didn't go. I ended up being able to figure it out. But also, like, in the city, you're doing it like, while double parked and, like, people are honking you. It's so stressful. There's not like a peaceful place to install your car seat.

A (12:58)

Yeah, no, there's not a peaceful place

B (13:00)

you have to do it in, like, at like three in the morning. Just so there's no other traffic and

A (13:03)

you can make someone get beat, they'll steal the car.

B (13:08)

So true.

A (13:09)

Peaceful.

B (13:10)

It's so difficult. It's not peaceful. It's just quiet.

A (13:13)

Yeah.

B (13:13)

Maybe until you get.

A (13:14)

During your weekend. This weekend, you have to leave the city.

B (13:17)

Literally, you have to leave the city to install your car seat.

A (13:21)

That's why she's taking a relaxing weekend.

B (13:23)

And classic. True to us form. When we first. When I was like nine months pregnant and you were like, you want to start doing prep things? So we installed the Duna car base in the middle of like a busy road. It was so loud. It was so stressful. Ben pulls up, the car is completely full. I wanted to kill him. The trunk was full. They must have been having an event like spritz buckets. Spritz and umbrellas. Spritz placemats. Oh, my God. That. I was like moving stuff around and I put the spritz buckets on the floor and they like, cracked. And he was so mad. Like, it was. And I actually ran into like, two toasters who were like, oh, my God. Dirty. When I tell you that, like, there are two toasters out there who have genuinely seen me at my worst. Actually, that happened yesterday. The lowest possible thing happened to me.

A (14:05)

You fell?

B (14:06)

No. Okay. The second lowest thing. So we went to the Short Hills Mall, which is like a famous mall and I've never been to. It's just like a very. It's just a mall, but it's like, famous. And we ended the Cheesecake Factory. Of course. It was delicious. And then we started walking around, but, you know, within five minutes, I had to go to the bathroom, like, so bad. And we're in the middle of the mall. I don't know where the bathroom is. So, like, run into free people. And I just. I'm like, where's the bathroom? And I'm like, I'm in distress, and if you know what I mean. And the sales associate is, like, turdy. It's like, seriously, not now. Like, I'm not. Okay. I was like, hi. I was like, I will come back to the free people store. Just please point me in the direction of the toilet. It was up inside. Second floor of Bloomingdale's. I made it within an inch of my life.

A (14:48)

There wasn't, like, a special one that she could, like, inside the free people. So when free people salespeople have to go to the bathroom, they go up, go to Bloomingdale's. They go to Bloomingdale's.

B (14:58)

Yeah.

A (14:59)

Doesn't seem efficient. Did you buy anything good at the mall? Did you buy anything good at the mall?

B (15:08)

You froze. So did you? Yes, I did buy something good at the mall. Ms. Satchel Lou's birthday is this week, so I had to get her a present.

A (15:17)

Of course.

B (15:19)

Of course.

A (15:19)

I already.

B (15:21)

Ben. Got some pounds.

A (15:23)

Classic.

B (15:24)

And, yeah, love it.

A (15:27)

Did Ruby like them all?

B (15:29)

Oh, my God.

A (15:30)

It's a magical place for children.

B (15:33)

It is. It's very, like, stimulating. There's a lot to look at. Lots of people. And one thing about my son, like, his party trick, is that he waves to quite literally anyone. And he was in a real waving mood. And, like, everybody thinks they're special. Like, oh, he waved me. It's like, yeah, okay. Who are you? Like, it doesn't matter. And everyone was just like. He was literally holding a meet and greet. Like, waving, shaking hands. It was so cute. Kissing babies, literally.

A (15:57)

That's so cute. You need to take him to American Dream.

B (16:01)

I know. Once he's a little bit older. Malls are everything.

A (16:04)

The American Dream, like, it's the craziest mall.

B (16:07)

That's why when I went to the Short Hills Mall, which has been, like, really amped up, it's just a luxury mall. Like, they have. I don't think they have Hermes, but they have everything else, like Chanel, Prada. And it was beautiful, of course, but, like, it's just a mall. It's like a building with stores.

A (16:20)

Yeah.

B (16:20)

And American Dream has just, like, if you guys don't know, American Dream is this insane mall in New Jersey that has a water park, a roller coaster.

A (16:27)

It's Lego Leg Mountain.

B (16:29)

Yeah.

A (16:30)

A mountain I learned that you can ski on. They have Angry Birds Mini golf.

B (16:35)

Yeah, it's in. It is the. If you've seen any of Mr. Beast's videos about, like, hiding in a mall, he does it at that one.

A (16:41)

And they have concerts.

B (16:42)

The Jonas Brothers hosted Jonas Con there

A (16:44)

at the water park. They have, like, Shrek World. Every character. They have a. They have roller coasters.

B (16:52)

It's fucking crazy.

A (16:53)

They have a hockey rink. We took in a women's hockey game, so.

B (16:58)

Oh, yeah, right. And it was an international game.

A (17:00)

I think it was like India versus Lebanon, literally.

B (17:03)

That's why now when I go to a mall, I'm like, oh, it's just like a mall. It just sets this. The bar really high. Yeah. Because American Dream is not a mall. It's the craziest place you'll ever.

A (17:11)

They had a jerky store. We got kosher beef jerky. They literally have everything.

B (17:17)

It's also, like, I don't know if it's owned by Jews or it's in a very Jewish area because it's, like, almost all kosher. Like, there's so many kosher options. If you go there, it literally looks like mini Tel Aviv. Like, everyone there is religious. And it's across the street from MetLife Stadium, like, where Taylor Swift performs. Let me tell you, it's bigger than that. Like, just if you're not from New Jersey, the Tri State area. Trying to, like, for scale, it's three times the size of MetLife Stadium. It's fucking crazy.

A (17:39)

Yeah.

B (17:40)

Oh, and there's a yard house.

A (17:41)

Oh, of course.

B (17:42)

That's where I went. I pregamed for Morgan Wall in there.

A (17:44)

And what's the name of Mr. Beast Restaurant?

B (17:47)

Beast Burger.

A (17:49)

Beast Burger. I dined there.

B (17:52)

Oh, they have a facility.

A (17:53)

They have a Beast Burger at American Dream.

B (17:55)

Oh, interesting.

A (17:56)

All the restaurants are, like, fake. Like, you never heard of them before. I'm shocked. They have a yard house. They all look. Look like, I don't know, AI generated.

B (18:03)

Oh, I love that. Like, kind of remember that. Remember that video game Dream Life where, like, you would go to school and, like, go to your job and look at the bulletin board? Like, it looks like that.

A (18:12)

Yeah, it does.

B (18:12)

With, like, the fake storefronts, for sure.

A (18:14)

Fake storefronts, for sure. The food is, like 3D printed. Yummy. Yeah, right? Yummy.

B (18:19)

No, American Dream is like the future.

A (18:22)

Yeah. You. You guys are living in the past.

B (18:24)

And, like, they have these motorized, like, rocking horses that, like, the kids. It's like these huge stuffed animals that you can ride around. They're motorized. It's. It is the craziest place.

A (18:35)

Yeah. Toys R Us activates there with a miniature train. And you can ride around the mall in a train. They've literally thought of everything. It's the craziest thing, honestly. Couldn't be more perfectly named the American Dream Mall.

B (18:49)

Yeah, it's American Dream. What show were we watching? Where was it Love is Blind. Like Minnesota, where they're known for their mall.

A (18:56)

Mall of America.

B (18:57)

Mall of America. It has nothing on the American Dream Mall.

A (19:00)

No. And Mall America had us in a chokehold from those Mary Kate and Ashley movies.

B (19:05)

Absolutely no. And it is, maybe it was at one point really impressive, but now I

A (19:10)

don't find it doesn't hold a candle.

B (19:14)

You can literally skydive at the Mall of America. I mean, at the American Dream. Yeah.

A (19:19)

No, it's wild. So if you have a chance to go check it out, I'm on there.

B (19:22)

This episode is not sponsored.

A (19:24)

Every year we just go on about the American Dream. I'm on their email list. So I like always see the latest and greatest and it hurts, you know.

B (19:31)

You know what, crazy?

A (19:32)

You asked me on the Patreon if there's one thing I miss about living in New York and I said it's the American Dream Mall. It's proximity to the adm.

B (19:42)

Absolutely.

A (19:43)

That's the one.

B (19:46)

Well, now the place looks beautiful.

A (19:49)

We've done a free advertisement. Let's get into the real the paid ones, shall we?

B (19:54)

Oh, I'm so down to support our sponsors.

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A (24:29)

Thank you. Today's to Turt.

B (24:32)

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A (26:07)

Arder. Thank you, Tertra.

B (26:10)

You're welcome. Our tra.

A (26:13)

Thank you. I've stopped holding out hope.

B (26:15)

Good, good. I've lowered the bar.

A (26:17)

Hurts too much, you know.

B (26:19)

Yeah.

A (26:19)

Out here in the cold waiting for a chair.

B (26:22)

We get a drama.

A (26:23)

Waiting for Gertra.

B (26:26)

Waiting for a jertra.

A (26:28)

Our first story F1 Miami Grand Prix was this weekend the Stars route. Also Kentucky derby. So let's just say, you know, both racing weekends. I feel like that happens every year. The two races are on the same weekend. How do you choose which one to go to.

B (26:43)

I do actually think that like the types of people that are drawn to each event are so different. Like F1 is much more sceny. It's very Instagram. Like, it's like, it's very Miami. And Kentucky Derby is like so southern belt. Like Madison Lacroix.

A (26:58)

Yeah. There were a bunch of reality stars there with Amazon. I think they made a bunch of content. Bravo, people. Yeah, that's where Madison was.

B (27:05)

Oh, I didn't see that.

A (27:06)

It's like Ashley, Darby, Aaron, Leechy, Madison, Ashley, I. Gianina, of course Gianina. Your favorite derby without Gianina. Giabelli. Balakale.

B (27:21)

Balakale. Balakale Horseman.

A (27:27)

My faves. They're going strong by the way. Annual reminder that Gianina and Blake Horseman like are happily ever after.

B (27:32)

It's actually sweet.

A (27:33)

It's so sweet.

B (27:35)

They have one or two babies.

A (27:37)

Oh, I think one.

B (27:39)

One cute.

A (27:40)

But yeah. No, and I think last year I asked like which one would you rather go to? Miami Grand Prix or Kentucky Derby?

B (27:47)

I think the F1.

A (27:49)

Yeah. So F1 popped off. There was like Carbone Beach.

B (27:53)

All the girlies were in attendance. I obviously was like over fixating on Stassi and alter hanging out because just anything Alex Earl does these days, like I'm looking at through the looks versus

A (28:05)

Lex lens and anyone who publicly is engaging with either of them is like putting out some sort of message, I feel. And it wasn't just that they took a photo together which of course it's Alex are on their friends and she was. She was her first guest on get real with me.

B (28:17)

Well so yeah, yeah.

A (28:18)

But the picture that Sassy posted of the two of them, they're like laughing like cackling. It's just giving like we're laughing at you.

B (28:24)

And I think the caption was like a time was had.

A (28:27)

I. It was just giving like we're laughing at you. I'm team licks.

B (28:30)

This isn't the first time that Stassi has entered my mind in the Lick Lex arena because yes, she historically has been friendly with Alex Cooper. She went on call her daddy, I think twice and then has done like unwell events. But then she did get real with

A (28:42)

me which actually I don't think that's a big deal that she did get right. You can do both because some people have been. She did get Raelle before the beef was public.

B (28:50)

Well, was public. Yes.

A (28:52)

Now some of us in the know have been knowing but I mean look at Mickey Glazer. She did the two in the same Week.

B (28:56)

Like, yes, yes. But Nikki Glazer's not from this world. Yeah, she's just, like, doing press. Stacey's, like, friends with people.

A (29:02)

You didn't have to make a choice until the Monday after Coachella.

B (29:06)

Oh, today's the Met Gala.

A (29:08)

Today is the Met Gala. Yes.

B (29:10)

Oh, my God. But I went to Polar Bar on Saturday night. It was so busy and so backed up, and I was like, what the hell is going on? But then I realized it was the Saturday night before the Met Gala, and I. I try to have my head on a swivel. It's, like, so annoying when you're, like, at dinner with someone and they keep looking around. So I was trying not to I anyone.

A (29:24)

Who were you with?

B (29:26)

Ben's friend, Pete Alonso, former Met, current Oriole, and his wife Haley.

A (29:30)

I guess everyone's on a swivel looking at Turdy and Pete Alonso.

B (29:33)

No. It's so crazy. I'm not, like, big in baseball, so I don't really know, but, like, people are obsessed with him. And I've gone to dinner with him a lot when he was a player in New York, and I was wondering if now that he's moved over to Baltimore, like, maybe people are gonna, like, hate him. No, they just so much, like, they're like, come back. Come back. Oh, it was really sweet. So. And I was having such a good time. I really wasn't, like, looking around. Although I did see Adam Mosseri, who, like, knew Ben, of course. Like, the head of Instagram. Yeah. But that was only, like, celebrity I saw. I guess Instagram, they, like, do, like, a sponsorship at the Met Gala.

A (30:05)

I think you were the celebrities at Polo Bar. That's what I'm trying to say.

B (30:09)

Maybe the celebrities are the friends we made along the way.

A (30:12)

No, because you were them.

B (30:14)

Yeah. No, you're right.

A (30:14)

They existed. And they were you and Ben. Celebrity. And Pete.

B (30:18)

Pete totally.

A (30:19)

Alonzo was the celebrity at Polo Bar.

B (30:21)

Yeah. I guess it really was Pete.

A (30:22)

Like, so everybody's looking at you guys.

B (30:25)

So true. It's so hard. I have no privacy. So MC Alice, tonight, the city. I was also walking, like, on the Upper east side by the park on, like, Friday and Saturday. And they already have, like, the barricades up. There's no people there. I was just like, why is the whole road barricaded? And then I realized Toast. I was near the Carlisle.

A (30:42)

So tomorrow's gonna be a fun toast.

B (30:44)

Yeah.

A (30:45)

Not that today isn't.

B (30:46)

No, always. But it's a big weekend.

A (30:48)

Yeah. And. But we came off of a Big weekend. So Miami, Kentucky. I guess everyone's gonna head to New York. Any other Licks versus Lex notes that emerge from this weekend for you? Aside from Sassy and snl?

B (31:02)

Yeah. Neither of the girls.

A (31:04)

Well, the publicist as well. Alex was making, like, Licks was making a big. She was with Kate Bailey, like, the whole weekend.

B (31:10)

Who was the four. Yeah, but it's Kate Bailey's event.

A (31:12)

Yes. No, but it is carbon. I just felt like it was like a. A flag in the sand.

B (31:18)

No, I feel like maybe you're just noticing it because I feel. I think that they're always like that.

A (31:22)

I just felt like it was like, as my kids would say, nana, nana poo poo.

B (31:27)

Lol. I feel like neither one of the girls, like, acknowledged the SNL skit. Like, to be referenced on SNL when you're like, a digital creator is such a big deal. And they've referenced Alex once before. Cooper and she, like, made a whole video about how crazy it was. And obviously they didn't do that this time. But, like, do you like. It's still cool, even though I guess it's like this awkward thing because it's your beef.

A (31:50)

Yes. But I think that it was also offensive. Like, it was.

B (31:54)

I agree.

A (31:54)

Really. Like, they obviously didn't know anything about either of the girls or the beef. Not that the beef is so real and is a lot of like, say it. And I'm gonna say it. Say it. Like. But yes, that.

B (32:02)

By the way, that part is clever,

A (32:04)

but the way that they were talking just so obnoxiously like, you know, stupid girls, like, I. I think it was offensive.

B (32:11)

Yeah.

A (32:12)

Brianna Chicken Fry caught a shout out.

B (32:15)

That's exciting for her.

A (32:16)

Yeah, it is. It was funny. Well, no, it wasn't. But it was something, you know.

B (32:21)

Yeah. No, and it's. It is such a big deal culturally to be referenced on SNL that the fact that neither one of them even, like, commented on it or good or bad. I'm curious.

A (32:34)

Well, I saw a headline that Alex Earl responded to it, but it was

B (32:38)

like, maybe shut the comment.

A (32:39)

It was, you know when websites, like, make a video, like a horizontal video for the article.

B (32:46)

I do know when websites make a horizontal video for the article and I hate it.

A (32:50)

And I'm never gonna click play. I'm gonna click X instead.

B (32:54)

Agreed.

A (32:54)

I didn't get to find out what she said because I was not watching that video. That ad supported video where they have maybe.

B (33:02)

Let me just see Alex.

A (33:03)

Their own. I'm curious, like, narrate.

B (33:05)

Just an issue to the sketch, she, a follower commented under a tick tock video of Alex Earl getting ready for F1 and asked if she watch. Oh. Asked if she watched the parody and then Alexandered. Yes. I'm laughing with a crying emoji.

A (33:21)

Great.

B (33:22)

Okay.

A (33:23)

Also, Olivia Rodriguer hosted.

B (33:26)

She did. She's so cute. Like, she's so cute and pretty and she's so talented. And I think that when you. Because I was seeing a lot of, like, discourse about her current song and then her new song, I don't know if you saw that, like, the leader of her fandom made a public letter, an open letter that was like, we're worried about your album because this song sucks. Like, there's been like a little bit not backlash, but it hasn't been as widely, positively received as her previous works. And I just feel like there's really only one place to go from where she started, which is down because her first album was, like, so historic and so legendary. And I actually think her second album was such an amazing follow up. Like, you don't usually follow up to something as iconic as that was something honestly, just as good, if not better. Guts is so good. Or no, sour. Yeah, Guts is. Which is the first one, I don't remember. But I just think she's such a cutie and she's very talented and I wish her the best. I really do.

A (34:19)

Yeah. Then you saw she was, like, joking about Jake Paul.

B (34:23)

I did. And then I saw Jake Paul responding and he kind of like, wasn't. Was not receiving it as an insult. He sort of refused to be insulted. I did not know that they were on the same show. I knew that Jake Paul had a brief Disney Channel stint as Bizaard Vark. I didn't know Olivia Rodrigo was on that show.

A (34:37)

Me neither. What did Jake Paul say about what she said?

B (34:40)

He did a green screen video to the monologue where she basically said, you know, I started my career on Disney. I was on a show called Bizaardvark. Actually, one of my castmates is Jake Paul. And, you know, we used to always talk about our futures. And it was so. It was actually really patronizing what she said.

A (34:54)

She was like.

B (34:55)

She was like, yeah. I mean, I would tell him how I wanted to write about the complex emotions of girlhoods for girls my age. And he told me he wanted to beat up old guys. It's a girl. Chill out. You're a pop star. Okay? You're not Shakespeare. Like, what you do and what he does is actually not that different. Like, you Entertain people. It was a little patronizing and if you wanted to be insulted, you absolutely could. But Jake Paul, I think, was just excited and he made a video. Video. And he was like, let's go. He was just like letting it play in the background. He was like, yeah, we did. Yeah, we did. It was very. It was. He took it, like, in a sweet way.

A (35:25)

That's really cute.

B (35:27)

Yeah. Even though it was like, kind of rude.

A (35:28)

Of course it was.

B (35:30)

Yeah. And it's like she just. The way she described what she did and the way she described what he did. Like, you're both entertainers and it's like I read about the complex emotions of girlhoods for young coming of age women.

A (35:39)

And he beats up old guys on

B (35:41)

Netflix, whereas, like, you can you. Yeah. Like you write songs and he, you know, is achieving the physical manifestations of his dream. It's just words, you know.

A (35:50)

Yeah, for sure. Well, that's what the stars were up to this weekend at their various races and parties.

B (36:00)

I am excited. What live stream are we watching for the Met Gala tonight? There's like never. There's like the Vogue one, right? Who have they announced? Who's hosting?

A (36:08)

Yeah, they did.

B (36:10)

Vogue, Met Gala live stream. I'm so curious because they've stumbled upon some like really good hosts and I feel like they've made a lot of careers for like, Emma Chamberlain. I don't think she did a lot of hosting before and then sometimes they kind of like miss the mark.

A (36:23)

I feel like they did announce a bunch of people.

B (36:25)

I mean, Lala Anthony, hopefully she gets the gig again. She's so good.

A (36:28)

I don't know who's Vogue, who's E. Who's like random Instagram.

B (36:31)

Okay, host. Okay, host. Ashley Graham, Lala Anthony and Cara Delevingne will be taking viewers through the fun and fashion with Emma Chamberlain reprising her role as a red carpet correspondent. So Lala Anthony and Emma Chamberlain are proven. They have an excellent track record. I think people really like them. They know them personally. Cara Delevingne does give me that same vibe where, like, I think she's friends with a lot of the people and she has a big personality and same. I don't know if Ashley Graham is friendly with so many of them, but she does have a good personality and she's very professional.

A (37:01)

Ashley. Ashley Graham, you know, she can do any job that's given to her. I feel it's actually. So she's a hard worker.

B (37:07)

Not one entertainment journalist, I guess Lala Anthony technically, like, has a history.

A (37:12)

Yes, she does.

B (37:14)

You see Northwest had like a album release party or something.

A (37:18)

I saw about it. I didn't.

B (37:20)

And her mom isn't there? No. I thought because Kim's in New York. It was last night. Kim's in New York.

A (37:25)

No, I thought she was there. I saw a picture of her.

B (37:27)

I only saw Kanye wearing the.

A (37:28)

I don't know. I, like I said I didn't look too closely. I.

B (37:33)

She's really young. I feel like when I look at her and I'm like, oh, she's like, yeah, 16. Like they're finally like emerging. I know. She's literally 12. Like, no.

A (37:39)

Yeah. And it's like, I'm not the target demo. I'm like an old lady.

B (37:42)

It's absolutely.

A (37:43)

Miss me with that.

B (37:44)

Hard on the old lady. Yeah.

A (37:48)

Our next story, some new bed bed news. Cameron Diaz and Benji Madden welcome baby number three. So Cameron Diaz and Benji Madden have shared that their third baby has wrote. Cameron and I are happy, excited and feeling so blessed to announce the birth of our third child. They shared the infant's name, which is Nautis. And he said, welcome to the world, son. We love life with our family. Our kids are healthy and happy and we are grateful. So they, as a reminder, have a six year old named Radix, a two year old named Cardinal, and now a Bebe named Natus.

B (38:22)

I just love these two. I, I love the whole like, who are the Madden brothers? Parents. I feel like they're both such fine young men who were like even raised in the public eye and ended up being, as far as I know, like true stand up husbands, partners, fathers. They both like love their private little lives and they love their wives and they love having babies. And then you see them, aesthetically you just wouldn't think that because they're like

A (38:47)

rockers tatted up bad boys.

B (38:50)

I just, and I just fucking love that Cameron Diaz. Like, yeah, girl, do live your life. Like, don't give us nothing. You know, like she doesn't act, she gives us nothing.

A (38:58)

She gives us a glass of wine.

B (39:01)

Yeah, an Avalon. But like, that's what I want for her. I want you to continue giving us nothing and continue enjoying your inner.

A (39:08)

She's earned the right.

B (39:10)

Absolutely.

A (39:12)

So mazel tov to the Diaz Maddens.

B (39:16)

Notice Madden.

A (39:17)

Beautiful. I think it means like voyager.

B (39:21)

Okay. Voyager.

A (39:24)

Yeah, it means sailor navigator Voyager. One who embarks on a journey and fears not the unknown.

B (39:32)

Cameron Diaz is also 53, which I just feel like needs to be said. That's my queen right there.

A (39:37)

Yeah.

B (39:38)

Yes, Ms. Seg.

A (39:40)

Yeah.

B (39:40)

Though you know, putting the biological clock on its head.

A (39:43)

Well, we don't know

B (39:46)

how conception. Yeah, but slay, like, yeah, you can be a mama 53.

A (39:51)

Yes. Yes, you can.

B (39:53)

And as Edna Turnblad once said, you're timeless to me. I've been singing so much Hairspray, like, bath time is when I sing Nicest Kids in Town. I, like, put on a whole performance, and, like, it's the echo. It sounds really good. And I've been watching also your Friends and Neighbors with James Morrison is in. And so I've been having, like, a lot of Cordy Collins energy flowing throughout my home. And I love it. I. I think it's literally the best movie ever. It's the best soundtrack ever. I just. I just wanted to say that.

A (40:18)

So who do you think Ruby is in Hairspray?

B (40:24)

Oh, Link, obviously. I'm Tracy. Like,

A (40:36)

Link. He's so Link.

B (40:38)

Large. And I'm Rue. Every afternoon when the clock shines for ya. I can't. We can't go down this road because I'll never.

A (40:49)

I know. Like, we already did our American Dream one. Like, we can't have two random tangents.

B (40:55)

Honestly, we. We're. The laws of physics don't allow us to do a Hairspray monologue and an American Dream monologue in the same episode. We'll have to do it tomorrow.

A (41:03)

We're at our quota for random shit. Like, because I think we're at, like.

B (41:09)

Yeah, we're fine. We're so fine.

A (41:11)

We're fine. We're fine. But we are at our quota, unfortunately. We have to stick to the news now.

B (41:15)

Oh, we forgot Queenie and Weenie on Friday.

A (41:17)

I didn't forget.

B (41:19)

I completely forgot. I just want to let you guys know I dropped the ball. I'm sorry. Because the installments mean everything to me and they mean nothing to Jackie. And that's why this show is so amazing. Because, like, the duality of both.

A (41:28)

Because of the installments. No, no, no.

B (41:30)

Because, like, I'm, like, such a pusher for the installments and you're such, like, a hater that, like. Like, our energies are so opposite that they actually, like, neutralize one another.

A (41:38)

Of course. And that's important in general. Having a yin and a yang.

B (41:43)

Absolutely.

A (41:43)

So to speak. Our next story is some slamo news. First, Whitney Levitt makes a shock Mormon Wives exit announcement during her Chicago finale show. So, Winnie Levitt did her last show on Broadway as Roxy Hart in Chicago last night. And she announced in the middle of the show reading, like, a fake headline where she announced that Whitney Levitt, Whitney self is leaving the secret lives and Mormon wives. And she's not filming.

B (42:08)

But she's not filming.

A (42:10)

Certainly not.

B (42:11)

Don't think this comes as a surprise. I think the, the way she announced is like a slay. Also, she didn't even like make it a big deal. The show is like, is it filming? Is it not? It's kind of a hot mess. And she sort of managed to untangle herself from it. And I can't imagine like a healthy person wanting to go back to that. Like, she seems really happy and now things are getting so messy. I'm sure this part two of your story is this the voice memo from Jesse Draper. So I, I, like, she's successfully made a career for herself outside of this particular show and it really does not serve her, her family, her mental health. Like, I, I can't imagine wanting to be a part of this group. It seems so toxic. But I think a lot of them like feel so rooted. Like they have to. They just even live there anymore.

A (42:50)

Like, yeah, no, a lot of them do have to. But she's successfully broken free. I think she has big dreams and I think at this point it's holding her back. It's, you know, it's not the vibe for her cool New York scene now.

B (43:01)

Like, yeah, she's like artsy fartsy. And I also think Connor is doing a stint on Broadway.

A (43:06)

Oh, cute. I, I'm very curious what's next for her. Like, I know she's gonna do something great. I just, I really am curious to see what it is and how she parlays this into like full time career.

B (43:21)

So there is an off Broadway show called 11 to Midnight, which is two tick tockers. It's called 11 to Midnight.

A (43:27)

Okay.

B (43:27)

And it's not a musical, it's a dance show. It's like these two, this couple who like dances all over Tick tock. I'm sure you've seen they started off like dancing to ringtones. I don't know if you know them. They've gone on tour and now they've like produced an off Broadway show that's like a dance extravaganza. Like Heather Morris from Glee is in it and they have like a lot of celebrity cameos. And Connor's joining it, I guess, to do magic.

A (43:50)

I'm crying. You know where he needs to go? He needs to get a spot on the gazillion bubble show.

B (43:56)

That's not magic.

A (43:57)

There's a little bit of magic. Remember, he needs to be the.

B (44:01)

He needs to be the new Steve Max.

A (44:03)

Yeah. But remember when we saw Gazillion Bubbles? He would be.

B (44:07)

Of course in a row was insane. There really was. It's perfectly named. There were a gazillion bubbles.

A (44:14)

Just when you think like there can't be a gazillion. That seems like then they actually water poured you with bubbles.

B (44:19)

Yeah. It's insane. It's actually dangerous.

A (44:22)

And then when you're leaving, the whole floor is slippery because just like, like drown.

B (44:26)

Waterboard doused us in bubbles. Yeah. I do wonder what like, career move is next for her. There was talks about like, us, Whitney spin off for Hulu, like Secret Lives of New York Wives or whatever. Because I do think she's planning on staying in New York. And I love Whitney, but I'm. I don't think that that would be interesting. Like a solo show about her family. Does she want to do more Broadway? Does she want to do more performing? Is she going to act in movies? That I don't know. But I do think it's the right decision.

A (44:54)

I think she wants to be in the arts and I think. Think that, you know, she could like one off. Things are great, but I do think she will try and make it in movies and I think she has a really good shot.

B (45:05)

Me too. I. I think she really proved herself with the Chicago run. Like, not only did she rise to the occasion, like, vocally, choreographically, she has huge selling power. They reached like insane. They broke records, they sold out, really, every single show. It was like a thousand dollars a ticket still to this last day. So overall it was enormously successful for her. And I feel like she really proved herself to the industry that she's not just like a reality star and was not fluke on Dancing with the Stars.

A (45:30)

Yeah. Or maybe she'll get like a major role in another major Broadway show. Like, and not just like a guest role, but a leading role. I don't know what shows are on Broadway right now, but.

B (45:40)

I know, but like, Broadway really doesn't pay the bills.

A (45:42)

No, it doesn't. But I. I don't feel like it's all about money for her. I don't. No.

B (45:47)

I think that her Instagram alone sustains their life plenty. And this is more for passion.

A (45:53)

She has a lot of passion. Yeah. So I think if she got like an amazing role. Not. I mean, again, I don't know what's on Broadway right now, but like a.

B (46:01)

Honestly, Fanny Brice, I could see her. Okay.

A (46:05)

No, but like, that's the only show.

B (46:07)

No, I Know what she should be. I know what needs to be done.

A (46:11)

Hairspray.

B (46:13)

Amber Von Tussel.

A (46:16)

It always comes back to Hairspray because.

B (46:19)

No, no. That actually is the perfect role for her.

A (46:21)

What about, like, I guess there's not enough dancing. If she were to join Wicked, as I could see her as Elphaba.

B (46:28)

No, the thing is, is that she's not, like, a good insane vocalist. And so some shows, like Fanny Brice is so vocal, you don't dance. But Amber Von Tussel, like, sings, like, lightly and dances on the corny college.

A (46:40)

They're not bringing hairspray. So we have to work.

B (46:42)

The problem is that it's not on Broadway.

A (46:43)

We have to work within the framework.

B (46:45)

Let me think, let me think, let me think. What's on Broadway?

A (46:47)

That's why I keep saying I don't know what's on Broadway way.

B (46:50)

I mean, she could always be in the Lion King. She could. It's like eternally on Broadway.

A (46:53)

She could.

B (46:54)

Her kids would love that.

A (46:55)

So cute. Other part of Secret Lives and Mormon Wives story. So a lot of drama emerged on Saturday and Sunday. TMZ posted a voice note that Jesse Draper had sent to Dakota and. Or his roommate.

B (47:13)

And Jesse had preemptively told us about

A (47:15)

this room's name is crew. Or she.

B (47:17)

She made a video on her Instagram before this and was like, by the being told that there's like a voice memo of mine being leaked to tmz. And she also then said that, like, this voice memo going to TMZ is proof that the video of Taylor that went to TMZ is clearly coming from Dakota. She did try to, like, deflect a little bit, but basically she was getting out in front of it. And I understand why. If you listen to the voice memo, I feel like it's actually a really bad look for her.

A (47:42)

It is. And when she put out her video being like, this is coming out. It came out before all this stuff happened and I was feeling this way and I was still married to Jordan and. And basically saying like, you know, you need the context of why even sent it. And, you know, it's obviously very manipulative that it's coming out. And just know that. And so I was ready to just ignore whatever I heard because I'm team Jesse. And then I listened to the voice note and I'm still team Jesse for sure. But it was this moment not too long ago where she did a complete about face. She's anti Taylor.

B (48:11)

She was on the voice memo. She's saying she's Speaking on behalf of the girls, saying that. And what's crazy is that she said in the voicemail that productions being like so toxic. And then she goes on call her daddy. Talking about a production for Secret Lives is not like other production. They're so amazing. So, yeah, it's just like kind of two faced. She goes on to say that, like a lot of the girls need to see the video. That production basically, yeah.

A (48:32)

And it sounds like in that moment she wants the world not. Yeah, she wants the world to see the video, to know what's going on. So here's what's in the message. She tells Dakota the cast is aligned and holding back on any public support for Taylor. Taylor as the Bachelorette is about to come out. She says they know the truth about Taylor. And she claims production and management on Slam it was gaslighting the cast by painting Taylor as a victim and Dakota as a liar. Jesse says the show's cast views. The show's cast views the situation between Taylor and Dakota is not only serious, but also dangerous, particularly when it comes to Taylor and Dakota's kids. And Jesse says the group feels a lack of accountability from Taylor would be harmful. What's more, she suggests it might help things if the cast members were able to see videos of Taylor being violent. And she singles out Michaela as being the most vocal about wanting to see the footage. It's unclear if the cast ever saw the footage relating to the incident. But a couple of weeks after Jesse sent the message to Dakota, TMZ obtained and published the video.

B (49:22)

And I just want to say, like, if I was a Jesse hater, which I'm not, I feel like I'm actually like a kind of a little bit of an apologist. I could definitely see a world in which this video came out publicly because of Jesse. Like she started picking it up and throwing it around, sending it to people.

A (49:34)

Clearly, yeah, like wanting it to surface. I don't know what made her see it when she saw it. And I also don't know what made her ultimately change her mind. And now she's Taylor's biggest supporter and best friend. I'm sure her Taylor hearing this, it's probably devastating for Taylor. But Taylor, I think is a forgiving person and has made so many mistakes of her own that she's like, okay to forgive. But I do think this is a bad look. For everything that Jesse has said publicly in the last month, you know, she left out this part.

B (50:03)

I know. And for. Right. And for me, the difference in what she was saying on the Voice memo versus because I did watch most of her Call Her Daddy interview you. The polar opposite takes is actually like, a little scary. A, about production, B, about supporting Taylor. See about, like, who's the villain, who's the abuser, who's the victim? And I, I gather that especially in situations like this, like, it can be confusing, like who's actually being the manipulator. But just to hear somebody, like, really talk out of both sides of their mouth, especially like around the time that Call Her Daddy was filmed and this voice memo was sent, like, isn't that far apart. It's just, it's a little spooky.

A (50:39)

Yeah. To do like, such an about face. And also I think she says, you know, I was still like, wrapped up in Jordan at the time and Jordan's friends with Dakota, and so I was seeing it from their side. But, like, she's been on to Jordan for a very long time, like, to blindly follow him and his friends. And I don't really think that she was that blind. Two months ago.

B (50:57)

Yeah. It's about, here's what I'll say as a Jesse apologist. It's a bad look.

A (51:02)

It's a bad look. But I, I, I'm holding space. I also think the situation with this show changes every single day. And she kind of exhausted and like, she couldn't have updated us and this On Wednesday, I was feeling like this. But then on Thursday I found out this and Friday I started to believe this. Like, you know what I mean? So when she went on Call Her Daddy and all that stuff, it's probably where she landed. But we didn't see the journey, and the journey is ugly.

B (51:24)

Yeah. I also think her making the video preempting the voice memo maybe draw Drew a little bit more attention to it. I, I might not have even listened to it.

A (51:31)

I, I agree. I might not have listened to it, but I do think it, it, it helps soften the blow because if I did listen to it and I hadn't heard from her, I'd be like, what? Yeah.

B (51:39)

Right. But I think it made it bigger.

A (51:42)

Yeah. Not, not the greatest moment. But I also just think it sort of takes Jesse out of the, like, I still really like Jesse, but it sort of makes her, like, not a credible source on the matter at the moment. Like, going forward.

B (51:53)

Yeah.

A (51:53)

I feel like her credibility on this particular subject is hard, and that's okay. Like, we'll, let's hear from Michael.

B (51:59)

We'll get you on the next one.

A (52:00)

Let's hear from Michaela. Also, some Slammo news. Taylor, Frankie, Paul had like a big day in court last week with, with the world's most sensitive judge. Did you see this, judge?

B (52:11)

I did. And then did you also see like the hug between Dakota's mom and Taylor?

A (52:17)

Yeah, she said it was like a goodbye. But they finally came face to face as they fought for custody over their two year old son. Ever. They, their legal teams went back and forth, but ultimately the judge weighed in, spitting facts. What a judge saying. Of course Taylor's reactive and she needs to learn how to control her emotions. And that's not a safe environment for a child with a parent who can't control how they react to things. But like, Dakota's manipulative, Dakota's calculated. Why is Dakota filming Taylor in these moments when there are kids around and kids safety's in trouble. Put the phone down. Help the kids if you care. If you care so much about the kids, you'd be helping the kids, helping those kids. And of course, you know, he mentions how the videos start only in the middle of the conflict, not at the beginning.

B (52:56)

He.

A (52:56)

He's on to him, you know.

B (52:58)

No, I'm telling you, the judge has a daughter who, like, knows the situation and watches the show.

A (53:01)

And I don't even know how much of the situation he knows, but he, like, read it. He read them perfectly. And so I, I think that, you know, going forward, whatever arrangements will be made, I, I think the judge is the full picture.

B (53:14)

So what was the custody settled at?

A (53:17)

It's like two. In two weeks, they have like another custody hearing. But he also said he had concerns about supervised visits for Taylor because that's like another form of control. And, yeah, I don't really know where they're at right this minute and where, like wherever.

B (53:30)

So sad.

A (53:31)

Yeah, it's sad, but it seems like, you know, the case is in as good of hands as possible.

B (53:35)

Yeah.

A (53:36)

Yeah. So that's the latest.

B (53:39)

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B (59:47)

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I won't hurt Serve. Our next story. Kylie, Timothy, Chris joined Kim to see the fear of 13 on Broadway. So Kim's producing a Broadway show. Very interesting.

B (60:02)

Of course she is like but more

A (60:04)

interesting than that, her family came to support including Kylie and Timothy, hand in hand. This is really great. I know Kim didn't do it for this, but her producing a Broadway show was really great for her little sister's relationship because Timothy, like, is in the

B (60:15)

arts, spends a lot of time in New York.

A (60:18)

Yes. And so them taking in a show where they know the producer is just very on brand for them, especially because, you know, Timothy was in hot. A little bit of hot water with the live performance with the truth.

B (60:27)

Yeah, I bet. I heard that they booed him and threw tomatoes when he walked in the door.

A (60:31)

Right. So this was really great for. For his. Her little sister.

B (60:36)

And I'm sure that there's a lot of it that happens behind closed doors, but don't you feel like we really haven't seen Timothy engage with the family, like, publicly, socially, a lot? Like, she's always going to his stuff, and they're going on date nights.

A (60:47)

The new.

B (60:47)

The Knicks games, the Golden Globes. But. And I'm sure he does, like, come over for Shabbat dinner, but we never.

A (60:53)

Palm Springs and, like, playing those silly games with them and making them videos.

B (60:56)

But we don't know that. I've never. Is he.

A (60:58)

I think so. Yeah.

B (60:58)

He's in the background, right? We don't know.

A (61:01)

But he's not filming, literally. But I also think that this means Kylie and Timothy are going to walk the Met Gala carpet together.

B (61:10)

Oh. Oh, I think so, too. I didn't even realize that that was up for discussion. But I guess historically, they both show up separately.

A (61:16)

Yeah, but they've been walking. They do everything together.

B (61:19)

The Knicks games. I'm sorry, they have.

A (61:20)

No, but they did the Oscars, the Golden Globes, everything.

B (61:23)

Oh, my God. They have to.

A (61:24)

Yeah, they will for sure. If they don't, I'm seriously gonna be mad at her.

B (61:28)

But I also feel like the girls.

A (61:29)

No matter. I would never be mad.

B (61:31)

No matter what stage they are in relationships, they always walk alone. Like, even when she was with. Did she do with Travis Scott eventually?

A (61:37)

Like, she walks alone and then they get together.

B (61:40)

But do they do any photos together?

A (61:41)

Yes.

B (61:42)

Really? Yeah. I feel like I remember seeing a

A (61:44)

picture of, like, Travis, Kylie and Kendall handle. Also, Kim walked with Pete, which was crazy.

B (61:50)

Oh, that was actually insane. She should have walked alone.

A (61:53)

Yeah, well, she did both. You know, she has her solo shots, but then.

B (61:56)

Oh, yes, yes. When they wore all black, she was with Travis Scott. Yeah. Okay.

A (61:59)

And if I'm.

B (62:00)

And the purple. Yeah. Oh, she's done it a few times.

A (62:02)

If I'm a designer, like, I would be Dressing Kylie and Timothy because they should sit at the same table. They're in love, and you sit with your designer. So, like, someone should have picked up the both of them.

B (62:13)

No, I cannot wait. I didn't even think about that.

A (62:15)

And do you think Kim will walk with Lewis?

B (62:19)

I actually do.

A (62:21)

If she walks.

B (62:21)

I think it'll be an attempt to get people to care. And you know what? I just might.

A (62:25)

I just might. I just want to say, because I love, like, a red carpet moment. They're so iconic. Even the couple doesn't stay together. Like, just, you know, you don't get a lot of couples at the Met Galaxy. Everyone's there. It's a work thing. Not. Your husband's not always invited, like.

B (62:36)

Yeah.

A (62:37)

So it's just very cool to see.

B (62:39)

And he's very mechal. I think he's been on the welcoming board.

A (62:42)

Board. I feel like she won't because she did it with Pete and she shouldn't have.

B (62:48)

Yeah. Even though they seem to be quite serious.

A (62:52)

But so were Kim and Pete. They were together for almost a year.

B (62:56)

Yeah. It just. It didn't seem serious because, like, he's so.

A (62:59)

Like, it seemed so serious to me at the time because I. Yeah, of course. Because she's serious. Yeah.

B (63:05)

I do think that they might walk together.

A (63:07)

Okay. I hope so. And Kendall and Jacob? Never. No, never.

B (63:13)

Speaking of Kendall and Jacob, I don't know if you saw, but Olivia Jade is launching a product.

A (63:16)

I did, but she didn't say. She's not filming.

B (63:19)

She's not filming. We've been waiting for the Olivia Jade makeup line, like, seriously, since 2016. Give it to us.

A (63:23)

Yeah. Also speaking of Jacob Elordi, I'm literally

B (63:26)

watching Euphoria in clips on Tik Tok. Me too.

A (63:29)

In clips, on reels. What is that? It's seems great. I only know what Sydney Sweeney's parts. I only got Sydney Sweeney clips.

B (63:36)

Well, I don't know if you saw. Actually, there was this moment that went viral. There's. I don't know the context, but she's having an argument with someone at her wedding, and the girl's like, we invested our kids. Child. Our kids with the college fund. And Sydney's like, what does that have to do with me? And the girl who's screaming at Sydney Sweeney has Botox and Sydney Sweeney doesn't. So it's like. It's literally two different faces where, like, they're both screaming at each other. One girl's face is not moving, and Sydney Sweeney's face is, like, literally crumpled.

A (64:01)

Like Crumpled.

B (64:02)

And it was. People were giving her a lot of credit for not having Botox because it really does make you a better actress.

A (64:07)

Yeah. But I think the person who is acting as, you know, someone who's invested my kids child fund, like, that person has Botox.

B (64:15)

Yeah, Right.

A (64:16)

You know what I mean?

B (64:16)

It's realistic.

A (64:17)

It's realistic to the character whose face probably wouldn't move.

B (64:20)

That's funny.

A (64:21)

So I didn't feel like it was a knee knock.

B (64:23)

I've seen a lot of the season three of Euphoria, the wedding.

A (64:26)

So I guess through the clip, I guess Nate Jacobs is like a Jimmy Cooper.

B (64:30)

Yes. That's a great comparison. His dad kind of was a Jimmy Cooper too.

A (64:34)

Oh, okay. Stealing people's money in the community. And then she doesn't want to be poor.

B (64:41)

Yeah. And. But she also wants to have this big wedding to, like, offset people's suspicions of them. So she's like $50,000 on flowers. And she started doing only kids, like

A (64:49)

make money for the wedding thing, which.

B (64:52)

That's gross.

A (64:53)

Yeah. Really bad. But. And the dog thing.

B (64:56)

Yeah. And he tells her to stop because, like, people in the community will say, yeah.

A (65:01)

And then she's like, crying all the whole time at her wedding and smiling and dancing. They did a dance.

B (65:07)

Yes. Yes. That's very chewy. Millennial.

A (65:09)

I guess the girl Maddie, who used to date Nate is Sydney's old best friend from high school.

B (65:17)

Yeah. And like.

A (65:17)

Yeah, but they were really sweet best friends. The friendship was very earnest.

B (65:20)

Earnest? No.

A (65:23)

With the clips I'm seeing, it seems very earnest. Then Sydney stole her boyfriend. Married.

B (65:28)

Sydney did steal her boyfriend, but they were just, like, popular.

A (65:30)

But they were broken up for three weeks and three days.

B (65:35)

Oh, wow. You've really seen a lot.

A (65:36)

I've seen a lot.

B (65:38)

Love that.

A (65:38)

And it's only giving me Cassie's storyline. I don't know about Rue. I don't know about Barbie Ferrero.

B (65:45)

She's not on the show. She left last season.

A (65:46)

Who's Jewel?

B (65:47)

Jules Hunter Schaefer.

A (65:49)

I don't know about Jules.

B (65:51)

Whose ruse, like, on and off.

A (65:53)

I only know about Cassie, Nate, and then Maddie by way of Cassie and Nate.

B (65:58)

Got it.

A (65:58)

Okay.

B (66:00)

Why are they enjoying.

A (66:01)

Why are they showing all this?

B (66:03)

Like, I don't know, but it is a really effective way. I don't know if you saw, but Issa Ray has just released her first show. It's a vertical series and it's being released in clips. Like, that's how people consume media weirdly these days. I was just watching a literal Movie. I don't know if you guys have ever seen the movie of Sally Field when she marries the Iranian guy.

A (66:20)

Yes, I watched that movie all the time.

B (66:23)

I watched it on Rails, and I was just. What was the movie? It's a. It's. Megan Fahey was, like, playing this, like, old, like, Megan Fahey and Betty White movie. Does anybody know what movie I'm talking about? Where, like, they play younger versions of each other, young and old, and she, like, lost her husband in the war, and so Betty White. Is the old lady still waiting for him to come.

A (66:41)

Amazing.

B (66:42)

No, it's literally an effective way to get people to see your show. That so much. So Issa Ray launched a vertical series, Stories.

A (66:48)

Oh, my gosh. Yeah. The.

B (66:49)

I know. It's kind of brilliant.

A (66:50)

The Sally Field movie is not without my daughter.

B (66:53)

Yes. Yes. And her, like, her husband tricks her into moving to Iran.

A (66:57)

No. Going to Iran on vacation in the middle of the Islamic revolution, and she got stuck there. And she can't leave with. If she.

B (67:03)

No, she doesn't get stuck there. She's trapped her.

A (67:05)

He traps her. She can't leave. And if she wants to leave, she can't take her daughter with her.

B (67:09)

She literally left on foot with her daughter into Turkey, and this man, like, drove them. Literally. It's based on a true story. It's based on a book. Yeah.

A (67:15)

Betty Mahmoud Moody.

B (67:17)

I. I literally only know because of reals.

A (67:20)

Me too.

B (67:20)

Same with this Megan Fahey, Betty White movie.

A (67:23)

I haven't gotten that one yet. I look forward to watching it.

B (67:26)

Yeah.

A (67:27)

Sometimes I'll be in the middle of doing something, I just check Instagram, and all of a sudden, I'm watching a movie.

B (67:30)

You're watching a movie, and I'm like,

A (67:31)

yeah, I'm supposed to be making dinner. Why am I watching a movie on my phone?

B (67:36)

Not without my daughter.

A (67:37)

Have you seen one of Angelina Jolie? Like, faking a pregnancy and getting stabbed?

B (67:41)

No.

A (67:41)

Getting stabbed in her face. Frank. Pregnant belly. And then pulling out the scissors and stabbing the man who stabbed her.

B (67:47)

No.

A (67:48)

This morning.

B (67:49)

That looks good. Have you seen the one of Christopher Walken when he builds, like, a fort underground for, like, for when the apocalypse comes?

A (67:57)

No, I haven't.

B (67:58)

That's a good one.

A (67:59)

I look forward to seeing it. I've seen a lot. I've seen a lot of Grace Anatomy.

B (68:04)

Oh, Young Sheldon.

A (68:06)

A lot of medical shows.

B (68:07)

You know, me too. This mystery, all of these lines across my face. I've seen the musical episode of Grey's Anatomy on Rails.

A (68:17)

Oh, interesting. I haven't caught that one yet.

B (68:19)

Oh, it's good. It's good. It's kind of like a famous episode within the Grey's Anatomy community.

A (68:23)

Oh, oh, oh. Well, our fifth and final story, if we may, is a little biz news. Spirit Airlines is going out of business after 34 years and is ending operations immediately. Their last flight, actually, I think. Yeah.

B (68:37)

Okay.

A (68:38)

By the way, like, I feel like it's always, like, in six months.

B (68:41)

Well, there was.

A (68:43)

But who would want to be flying

B (68:44)

a bankrupt airline, let alone Spirit? Like, it's already a bankrupt airline. Well, there was a rumor, and I actually watched Brian Kelly on, like, Live with Kelly and Mark or something, explaining when JetBlue wanted to buy Spirit and how big of a deal that would be, because they would. They would have become a major airline. Like, United and Delta are, like, bigger airlines, and there's regional ones that don't have hubs. They don't have enough planes. If Spirit and JetBlue were to join forces, they would become, like, a United. I don't know what happened. Like, the merger got denied or they didn't end up doing it or whatever. So I guess, like, Spirit's just over. I don't know what videos I'm gonna watch anymore, because one of my favorite videos to watch is, like, people on Spirit Airlines cussing each other out, brawling. Yeah. I guess I'll have to maybe go back to watching that without my daughter, but. But it's kind of huge for the viral video community.

A (69:35)

Yeah, it is. It's also. I feel like it's huge for the travel community. Like, you really couldn't beat those prices. Yeah. You know, you might not have a seat and you might be sitting on the toilet, but you were going to get where you needed to.

B (69:45)

From point A to point B. Absolutely.

A (69:47)

So I feel like as far as, you know, quick, easy trips, the price is going up.

B (69:53)

And I also think that culturally, Spirit Airlines, like, symbolized a lot. Like, we were always making jokes and text, but of the joke texts and memes.

A (70:04)

So all these airlines better be unnoticed because you might become the next Spirit if you treat us like Spirit.

B (70:12)

Absolutely.

A (70:13)

So why don't you step it up?

B (70:16)

I just feel like this is kind of a big deal.

A (70:18)

It is a big deal. It is a big deal. So bon voyage, Spirit. It.

B (70:24)

I need my travel correspondent, Brian Kelly to explain more. So what this means, like, are prices going up?

A (70:30)

I guess supply and demand. They would, right? Or.

B (70:35)

And what happens to an airline? What happens to an airplane when an airline dies? Will they sell it off well, yeah,

A (70:41)

I had heard for a moment like, that the government was thinking about buying it and taking the planes for, like, transit.

B (70:46)

The military. Yeah.

A (70:47)

I don't think that went through, but other airlines could buy these planes at a discount.

B (70:51)

Right, right.

A (70:52)

You know, so we'll see.

B (70:56)

I just feel like this is so crazy. I feel like an airline. I feel like when airlines go out of business, I think when airlines go out of business, it's kind of like a moment in her story now. Not. Not Song, because Song was a part of Delta, so it never really went out of business. It was just like this, you know, diffusion line that they discontinued. But like Continental, remember that airline?

A (71:17)

Pan Am.

B (71:19)

Right. Like, I feel like it marks eras of. Of history.

A (71:23)

Yeah.

B (71:23)

The Spirit era has ended.

A (71:25)

It's sad.

B (71:26)

Now let's move on to the Midnight.

A (71:28)

Sarah, what's the Midnight?

B (71:31)

The ERAS tour. Oh, you think Taylor and Travis gonna be the Met gala?

A (71:35)

No, no.

B (71:36)

Joe Alwyn is at the Carlisle, so I'm sure he'll be there.

A (71:39)

Yeah. And it's really like Kardashians. I don't know why someone in an interview should ask her to that.

B (71:43)

Why? She doesn't really do interviews.

A (71:45)

No, but she just a New York Times songwriter. Like, she does interviews. Just ask her.

B (71:49)

She doesn't do interviews where you have free will. Like, you can't ask Taylor Swift whatever she wants.

A (71:53)

Just ask her. Someone be brave.

B (71:56)

Because what's the drama? Because there's actually a lot of things, like, of course it's a Kardashians event, but she's so big now, she could go wherever she wants. They both went to the Super Bowl. But also, it historically has sort of been like, kind of a big moment for her. Bluea, the getaway car. Tom Holland. What does it mean?

A (72:13)

And I don't think she's like, running scared from the Kardashians. Like.

B (72:16)

No. Yeah. What is it?

A (72:18)

What is it? I don't. And she used to be on the chair and she's like, friends with Anna, so it's not like she has bad vibes. Like, you know, Demi Lovato, who said she wouldn't go anymore because it's toxic.

B (72:28)

Right, Right. Although I do feel like she's sort of healed from that.

A (72:32)

Demi.

B (72:33)

Yeah.

A (72:34)

I don't know. I feel like some people. I feel like even Chloe was like, it's not my scene.

B (72:37)

I don't think it's a particularly fun event.

A (72:39)

Yeah. And you have to be like, really in the know.

B (72:43)

You have to be friends with everyone.

A (72:44)

And I. Yeah, I think it's like a work event. I think it's a little nerve wracking. All the cameras, all the people and. Yeah, it's not for everyone. So I understand why Demi Lovato felt that way.

B (72:52)

Wait, can we do our favorite game where we guess which, like, celebrity talent is going to be picked from the digital world? Going to the Met Gala? Because last year we had said Nara Smith, which I thought was such a good guess of mine, and that they didn't invite her or she didn't go. I do think she could go this year.

A (73:09)

Yeah, I do think Alex Earl could go this year. And I. I don't even think I. I suggested her last year, but I do think this year she could.

B (73:15)

Yeah. If she doesn't go, I don't think it's because she couldn't. Honestly, like, she's dating Tom Brady. She's. She is the moment.

A (73:22)

Yeah. Other influencers or like podcast who's like,

B (73:32)

in fashion, you know? You think Jake Shane will go? I hope he could. Me too.

A (73:38)

I hope. But I don't think he's in New York. But like, he. The way he talks about, like his anxiety about all these things.

B (73:43)

Oh, he would have the worst.

A (73:44)

Even though he's friends with everybody, everybody loves him. He. I don't know if he can handle it.

B (73:49)

I also think a lot of the digital talent is often connected to the sponsor. Like when YouTube sponsor, I think Amazon, the Bezos. There's a lot of people are like, boycotting because the boy Bezosies are like backers. I don't give a loser sneak. Yeah, no, just like, seriously. Shut up. Who is like tied with Amazon or like has a show on Amazon, you

A (74:11)

know, but it wouldn't be like Amazon creators because, like, who are at the derby, right? No, no, I mean people who are

B (74:18)

connected with the brand in like a larger way.

A (74:20)

Like video.

B (74:21)

Who has like a. Yeah, a reality show on Prime Video even. They don't do a lot of that.

A (74:25)

No, they don't do a lot of that.

B (74:26)

Do you think Brooke Snader's going? Yeah, yeah, she's friends with the Bezos. She went to the wedding.

A (74:31)

Oh, well, then she better be there.

B (74:34)

She better be there.

A (74:35)

And of course the shit off the century should be there. Sydney Sweeney and Scooter Braun who met at the wedding.

B (74:41)

Oh, do they meet at the wedding? I don't know if he does like a lot of red carpet. He's more like a businessman. So if he goes, I don't know if they'll walk the carpet, but she'll Definitely.

A (74:49)

They should. They're so hard launched.

B (74:52)

Oh, they're getting married.

A (74:53)

They're long. I think she's gonna convert, like, literally, they're getting married and having children.

B (74:57)

I think she's gonna convert like, dead.

A (74:59)

I ship so hard. I hope they walk. Like, honestly, I can be keeping an eye out for them. Like Kylie and Timothy.

B (75:06)

Yeah, no, I'm definitely on alert for a couple of people, a couple of things.

A (75:09)

I hope Brooksie goes and maybe Taryn too. And you know what?

B (75:13)

I don't think, actually, I just don't think he would be invited. Honestly.

A (75:15)

I feel like he could be. And he's friends with Elton John and I feel like Elton John could get someone in somewhere, but I just want to normalize. Like you walking the red carpet with someone that you. You're not going to marry. The. That's fine. Like, it's not like your siblings wedding where, like, you don't want them in the pictures. Like, have an iconic moment with a good looking person.

B (75:33)

Haley Bieber, Shawn Mendes. Like the fraudulent relationship of the century. I lived for that.

A (75:38)

That was a fraudulent relationship. These aren't fraudulent relationships. Like Taryn and Brooksie. Like, I don't think they're going to be together forever. So it's.

B (75:44)

It.

A (75:44)

Usually you don't walk the couple with the carpet with like someone you've been with for a few months, but, like, do it. It's sickening.

B (75:49)

Agreed, Agreed. And it's honestly a good way to get talked about. And it's a moment in time. Have you ever seen the pictures of Jessica Simpson and John Mayer at the Met Gala?

A (75:56)

Like, it's seriously a moment in time.

B (75:59)

It's a time capsule. Do it.

A (76:01)

And it's really a way to stand. Stand out. Like, it's very oversaturated. Everyone's doing their big one. There's a million celebrities. Everybody's dressed to the nines. Like, give us something to ship, you know? Yeah, I, I just, I don't know why I'm like, I feel like we're gonna get some of that. Just be casual. It's not a big deal. It's a Met gala. It's costume.

B (76:18)

I do feel, I do feel like the Met Gala has also become, like, a lot less of a big deal. I feel like back in the day it was literally impossible to get an invitation even if you were a list. Now I just feel like they kind of let anyone in. So, yeah, bring your random boyfriend, like, whatever.

A (76:31)

Give us a couple picks. Give us a couple goals. I love it.

B (76:35)

Oh, I guess this is a big deal because it's like the first MET gala where Anna's not Vogue editor in chief. They're really pushing that girl Chloe on us. I've seen a lot. She's doing, like, a lot of, like, street interviews. I've seen a lot.

A (76:48)

She's in the street. Street.

B (76:50)

Well, no, like, street style, where they're just like in her office.

A (76:54)

Other people are interviewing her.

B (76:56)

Yes.

A (76:57)

Man on the street.

B (76:58)

I saw such a weird interview because I guess there has been, like, a lot of pushback that, like, she wears ugly clothes and it's kind of crazy because she's like the editor of Vogue. So somebody was like, asking her about that and she was like, yeah, I mean, I do dress different than Anna. And it's like, well, no one cares that you just weren't Anna. I think people cared. Like, you dress ugly.

A (77:14)

Yeah.

B (77:15)

Yeah. And so she's like, talking about it. It's really weird. But they are like, I think they're trying to be like digital focus, like 300 years too late with like their young hot editor, like, doing street style tiktoks.

A (77:26)

But okay, I've missed all of that. And, and no, it's.

B (77:30)

It's. It's. It's targeting towards me.

A (77:32)

And I'm happy. I'm happy that it doesn't sound like it's for me, you know, I'm happy to have missed it. Don't.

B (77:38)

Don't surface that you think Harry, Meghan, you think they're there.

A (77:43)

I always think Harry and Meghan. At this point.

B (77:45)

No, I think it's weird that they haven't gone.

A (77:48)

Yeah. And now it's too late.

B (77:50)

You think?

A (77:51)

Yeah.

B (77:52)

All right.

A (77:53)

Yeah. Okay. That will be fun.

B (77:56)

That will be fun. So tomorrow's the second. The first Tuesday in May, which is just as exciting as the first Monday in May.

A (78:02)

It's more exciting for the toasters to first ABs.

B (78:04)

Absolutely.

A (78:05)

There's Tuesday.

B (78:07)

That's our show. You guys, thank you so much for listening to the chosen Monday morning. Well, the place looks great. It always does. Thank you so much for listening to the just millennium morning show where we deliver the fast size stories you need to know every Monday through Friday and YouTube. So watching us on YouTube, please feel free to subscribing this video. Thumbs up. Also available as podcasts. Every podcast we found. So it's Spotify, Apple Podcasts and YouTube. Wherever you listen to podcasting weekly down till we are. Hope you guys have an amazing day and we'll see you tomorrow.

A (78:28)

Love you. By.

B (78:35)

Spring just slid into your dms. Grab that boho look for that rooftop dinner. Those sandals that can keep up with you. And hang some string lights to give your patio a glow up. Spring's calling, Ross. Work your magic.